🎙️ PNOs Talks: Powering NEAR’s Decentralization

Recorded: Sept. 11, 2025 Duration: 1:10:39
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In a recent discussion, key players from the NEAR ecosystem highlighted significant growth opportunities, innovative projects, and the evolving dynamics between validators and delegators. With Calibre and Citadel 1 leading the charge in infrastructure and community engagement, the NEAR network is poised for expansion, attracting institutional interest and fostering a more decentralized governance model.

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Francisco, can you add a speaker to Helwin, please?
To have a better time here, I would like to introduce some of our speakers for today so i would like to start with caliber if you can tell us who is representing caliber today and a bit of caliber so people can
know more about it will be cool yeah Yeah, sure. Can you hear me?
Yeah, perfect.
Okay, nice. Okay, hello everyone. Nice to be here today.
I'm a marketing executive at Calibre.
So a short introduction about Calibre.
We are a Web3 venture builder.
We make factors with the funding, engineering, strategy, and the legal to launch impactful
startups across consumer apps, DeFi, and infrastructure.
And beyond the incubation, our Node validation team runs the secure and high performance
infrastructure for the top layer ones and organizes events
education and developer onboarding especially here in vietnam and um a quick intro about our
father um our father is mr le liu um he's uh also the co-founder of Kyber Network and Xin Shudong, the founder of Zequalia.
They have also helped shape their sustainable blockchain ecosystem.
And Caliba is proud to carry that vision forward across the networks like Ethereum, NIR, Ronin, Babylon, and Chromia.
So yeah, excited to chat about the infrastructure incentives and the evolving validator landscape.
So yeah, let's dive in.
Thank you. Now, to know more about our speakers, we'd like to introduce Er Montagu,
or how is the spell?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Who is representing Citadel Dao.
So please introduce your nickname, AKA,
or your name if you prefer.
We'll also like, if you're open to it,
to know maybe where are you
or where is your team
and how born Citadel
and how this project decided to join the P&O.
Yeah, hey guys.
It's Montego slash Malik as as you like either i'm the uh
governance and research lead at cital one we're a uh we're a an infrastructure provider for proof
of chain proof of stake chains we've been operating for four years started out in the
cosmos and now pretty much expanding to other networks uh we're currently
live on 30 plus chains with 400 million dollars in assets and management and uh yeah excited to
be here with uh with the medical guys to talk about near and to answer your question we're
And to answer your question, we're pretty much based in different places across Europe and Asia.
Personally, I'm in France.
So, yeah, excited to be here.
Thanks for having us.
Pretty much worldwide, like here in Metapool by the way, so hi everyone
who is joining the new
ones, the old ones, all
the Metapool fans, so here are
some members of our team also
Francisco is there, the guy
who is in the backstage
Voodoo King also
from Operations, from Metapool
thanks Maxi
also and Fran to stay here
also a big shout out to NERWIC for always support our activities so ah you
you're raising your hand so go ahead
sorry that was supposed to be a wave I'm not used to Twitter spaces that much. That was...
Yeah, I told you you wanted to speak. So, great. So, now I'm not spelling well that. Who is representing Rhea?
So would like to give us a small introduction about Rhea for the ones who don't know
and how Rhea decided to join this program with Metapool.
And it would be cool also something like very curious about your team.
Where are you based, you want to to say if not it's okay with just a curious um a curious stuff no to get more in
touch with the people not just to give some technical questions that yeah they will appear so so yeah go ahead cruz please the mic is yours
yeah um hello hello hello everyone i'm sorry about the background noise is a bit uh reading heavily
so yeah sounds clear sounds clear don't worry okay all good all good okay so how everyone? I'm Cruz from the operation teams in Rear Finance.
So, TLR, Rear Finance is one of the top DEX platform in the near ecosystems and offering lending and borrow in a single leap.
So, we currently have like 100 million of TVL inside the platform.
So, yeah, very excited to share some insights of the validators
here and strengthening the new ecosystem together so yeah that's all for me thank you great thank
you and we have uh uh and i'm sure of naim hassan francisco Francisco, you added, I may be missing the information from this speaker.
But Dragon's take, please ask for the microphone so we can give you permission to talk.
So let's start with some questions. Let's go first with Calibre.
But before that, a small introduction. I'm happy to welcome to today's space to
decentralize NIR with Metapool. We are here to dive into one of the most important topics for the future
of near-validator growth and decentralization. Lately, Metapool has played a key role in
this journey, from distributing a stake through a liquid staking to creating Node Studio,
also a great platform, to democratize the validators. Now, designing strong incentive programs like P&O for delegators and validators.
Today, we will explore how all of this impacts the validator community
and the long-term future for NIR.
So, let's start with some...
The first section will be more like the infrastructure and security.
So running a validator is not an easy task.
It takes strong infrastructure and commitment.
So the first question for our friends from Caliber will be,
what's been your most important achievement on NIR so far?
Okay, thank you for the question. So honestly, Caliber's biggest achievement on NIR isn't just
about technical. It's worth work rebuilding the near community in Vietnam
from scratch.
You can take a look at near VN ANFA
And that meant the rolling up
also you to like organize the meetups,
engage with the local developers
and support the grassroots projects that fear the
ecosystem growth. So yeah, Calibre is proud that our validator operations take this up with the
consistently strong performance and openness. So when you see new faces launching apps and sticking with the confidence you will know the network and
the community around it and i think it's surely decentralized and resilient
yeah thanks thanks for that let's keep with the questions so So let's go with Montagu.
So for Citadel 1, how has your multi-chain experience influenced your work on NIDR?
Good question.
I would say, so Citadel 1 has been operating for years, like now across, like I said, 30 plus stake networks and on mainnet through almost every kind of stress test you
could potentially encounter as an operator, including, I don't know, like traffic surges,
outages, emergency upgrades.
And I would say that all those scenarios and the lessons learned from them slowly compound
to make us better our job and improve our internal protocols and infrastructure,
which I would say made us well prepared to support large ecosystems
and chains specifically near at the standard they deserve.
Yeah, I think this experience on other chains, yeah, it really helps also to know some insights about how are the updates maybe, or the audience maybe to reach more TVL.
How is that for you?
Can you repeat the question, please?
Yeah, based on your experience in other chains,
which are the most valuable things that you discovered
that are helpful here on NIRR?
I would say contributions, like come in many forms, but usually like when,
when, when you're trying to get in touch with the retail, with users, like read community
members, I think educational content matters on whatever the chain is like focused on.
And, and yeah, sometimes that can be like educational stuff about the chain, the projects in it, the ecosystem itself on, on Twitter or like governance, governance contributions, like pushing, pushing proposals on chain, engaging in the forum, shaping the future of the chain and like trying to improve the experience for everybody involved i would say in in my experience those were the things
that kind of helped us grow and maintain our position in the networks we uh we operate on
great thank you yeah the content this is key for for this kind things. So let's continue with the questions.
With Ria, what inspired you to start validating on Nier?
Let's say that, okay, we are as part of the main DeFi platform in Nier and we want to make sure that
we can provide some security and validation for HTX in Nier basically yeah so we become a validator
to do our part to keep the ecosystem and safe and becoming the one stop DeFi in here yeah
save and becoming the one stop DeFi in here.
What measures do you take to keep your node reliable and secure?
Again, sorry?
Yeah, sure.
Let me repeat the question.
What measures do you take to keep your node reliable and secure?
Like, what are the good practices that maybe you can also
suggest to everyone here or for the new ones,
maybe they don't know which are these good practices
for have the node reliable and secure oh okay cool so
to keep our new validator nodes reliable and secure so we use trusted vps provided to host
our infrastructure on top of that we run backup validators nodes nodes so if one goes down, we can switch to another quickly
and minimize downtime. So for security part, Neo requires validator's account to use a
separate validator key which adds an extra layer of the protection to the nodes. So even
if one node is compromised, other accounts are unaffected. So we also use like
OG monitoring tools and have our ops and operation and
technical teams watching the key changes and performance in 24 seven. So it's a setup that gives both of us and our
delegators peace of mind. So yeah.
That that's very smart. mind. So, yeah.
That's very smart.
So let's now introduce a new speaker that is Dragon's Take.
So please introduce yourself, who is representing Dragon's Take,
and tell us about Dragon's Take.
And yeah. Hi. Can you hear me? Take and yeah.
Hi, can you hear me?
Loud and clear.
Thank you. Thank you for having me.
This is Freddy.
I represent Dragon's Take and I'm the main CTO
or CEO or owner or whatever.
We started years ago,
like the Citadel member that has presented before.
I think we belong to a node G queue of node operators
that started where the first movers
in the proof of stake environment we
started with cosmos and Polkadot and Avalanche and all those network that
launched it in the first era of the staking and if you ask me some important notes or something that make us different probably
the fair and being the main first movers in the in this environment give you a little bit ahead of the market cycles and this maybe is one of the characteristics of
the of our service we started with a small team and now now we are a team of six of six and
of six and including marketing and operations,
business development,
of course technical people are behind the notes.
So yeah, this is pretty much for us.
I ask, I will ask all the listeners,
all the attendants to this meetup to consider the set of validators that are here present.
Sensei Note, Citadel One, Dragon State, North State, Caliber, Riad and try to delegate to those active members of the community.
Yeah, thank you, Freddy.
So yeah, I would like to shout out the same action.
So if you want to choose one validator,
make sure that this validator is open to talk,
it's active, it's contributing building
here in the trenches so so thanks for all our speakers of today who are participating and
taking time to share knowledge with us it's not an easy task have a validator yeah yeah i i'm only like a watcher but the small things i sold yeah
pretty hard thing but thanks note studio it's pretty simple i i got my mind with note studio
but here talking with the technical experts let's go back and i would like to ask you another question since um
we lost you in the in the first round because xbook booked me and didn't saw your you were
active sorry for that so i would like to ask you how do you ensure transparency and trust
with your delegators regarding node performance?
Well, can you hear me again? Sorry. Yes. Okay. We used to publish every important event in the network where we work.
For example, there is a chain, commissions, or if we commission any service, or if we create a new one. We have internal channels and our own community groups and I think it's
important to keep up date all the community around your validator service with the most important news and also trying to
to point them to to the very unique and main source of truth every every time for example if there is an event uh happening in near uh most transparency
means to to exactly uh point people are are marking the transaction blocks or whatever
it's an immutable and and transparent by itself in the blockchain.
So it's easier for operators to show the reality
and the facts just pointing them to the blockchain.
And this is how we do.
So I don't know if to add something to that.
Thank you. So I don't know if to add something to that.
Yeah. I'm sure these big steps are always helpful for the community.
So to stay in touch.
So let's go back with the questions.
Now it's time for Calibre.
In this section, we'll like to ask about economics and sustainability.
So Metapool has introduced new incentive models that change the game for both delegators and
validators. So this question for Calibre, it's, do you see smaller validators having a better
chance to grow thanks to liquid sticking contribution?
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, regarding this question, I think, yeah, definitely. Like from both Calibre's perspective as an active near validator and looking at the broader near ecosystem,
the Metapulse liquid sticking program, i think it's a real game changer
for the small validators uh traditionally other delegation tended to concentrate around the biggest
players making it tough for the smaller or newer operators to gain traction but with the liquid staking the near tokens are like
automatically distributed across a diverse set of over like 80 yeah as far as i remember 80
high performance validators including the community focus and smaller operators like
the community focus and smaller operators like YAR, Calibre and many, many other validators.
And this automatic and algorithm-driven spread have the long tail and the underdogs and
passionate newcomers will receive the steady delegation without having to like heavily market themselves. So it creates a more balanced and balanced ecosystem where like the reliability and the commitment are what truly drive the growth.
It's not about just the size or the network effects from our experience running on Node, it's empowering to see this democratization in action, like the NIR network benefits from increased decentralization and security.
And smaller validators like Calibre have a fair and growing chance to thrive alongside incumbents.
And it's an exciting time to be part of NIRS Validator community.
That was a really nice answer.
Now let's go with Montagu from Citadel one so i would like to to ask you um
if you could change one economic rule in the protocol to make validator life easier what will
it be and are we okay if we are to change on economics are we talking like at the protocol level
yeah uh well i'm not sure if it's like like the most accurate but uh there's like an interesting
case that happened recently in the Cosmos where
Neutron, which is a chain that used to rent security from another chain, the Cosmos hub, but then they decided to go their own way and like internalize the like the VAL set,
which is like get their own validator set. And, and what they did is like to eliminate all these
validator set and uh and what they did is like to eliminate all these uh issues i mean we call
them issues but you know this all this competitiveness that happens with the way delegation
determines how much rewards you're gonna get and then like then validators have to leave or like
you know kind of shut down because they haven't been profitable for like the
x number last month and uh so yeah more delegations mean more money but the ones who do not manage but
just contribute just as much in terms of infrastructure and efforts do not get like rewarded. And what they did is like they basically fixed
the amount of incentives in like dollars
for all the validators and made it like the same.
And that way all validators do the same amount of work
and get rewarded the same amount of money.
But it's a very recent experience
and I'll be very curious to see if it makes sense the same amount of money, but it's a very recent experience.
And I'll be very curious to see if it makes sense for validators in the future and if it gets adopted more and more by other chains.
And I also think that another positive factor for,
positive thing for adopting this model is that it gives the chain or the protocol like
a visibility vis-a-vis the amount of like money to be spent on the security budget versus you know
the uh just uh activating inflation but yeah that that's uh that would be my answer.
That would be definitely something interesting to discuss in the Near Governance Forum.
It's a really interesting idea.
So now let's go with Cruz from RIA.
Let me pick. Do you think Metapulse incentive help attract institutional players to NIR? So, like, the incentives might be helping validators join new ecosystems, and they be
able to start validating without having to bear a huge cost.
So more institutions will be happy to join the new ecosystem and help validate the change
So, yeah, the incentives, it's helping.
Thanks. And since that was an easy question, I guess, maybe something like more interesting that you could do some,
share with us some great lessons,
because some people are wondering,
how sustainable is it today to run a validator in here?
Again, sorry, sorry, hello.
Yeah, yeah.
How sustainable is it today to run a validator in Europe?
Are you there? Hold up, hold up.
I think my... wait, wait, wait, again.
You mean... can you repeat your question again? Sorry, sorry.
My line is... No, no worries.
I was asking, how sustainable is it today to run a validator in NIR?
Oh, you mean how sustainable is it to learn a validator?
I would say running the validators,
the new validators remain sustainable today so with news average
APR at like 9.26% and factoring a 70% commission fee so one mistake new
generates like 36k new annually so at the current price is equal to like 91,000 in yearly rewards.
So with like 17, 17.5K in gross revenue
and yeah, backed by our dedicated VPS infrastructures
and experiences operation teams.
So we can maintain strong performance
and yeah, proven stability in this ecosystem.
So yeah, Veritas can run in sustainable today.
So for those who were wondering how sustainable it is,
you already got the answer.
So not only get economic sustainability,
also you help to decentralize the infrastructure.
So let's continue with Dragon's Take.
Let me give you a cool question.
So let's go to the news section about governance and delegation.
Let's go to the news section about governance and delegation.
Do you see a healthy relationship between validators and delegators when it comes to voting power?
Yeah, I think the relationship between validators and delegators, I think it's evolving evolving super fast and I love where it's heading
today. The validators are becoming more transparent and sharing not just the performance data but
also the governance decisions and priorities and delegators themselves are stepping up, asking questions about proposals and seeking
to understand how their stake tokens translate into the network influence. And the balance
is getting better. The more feedback, the more education and validators openly acting as community representatives.
The future looks right for decentralized and participatory governance.
And yeah, the more we educate and empower delegators, the healthier that relationship we get, in my opinion.
Thank you, May. the healthier that relationship you get in my opinion yeah
uh thank you may now uh let me know freddy if you stay there if you are here
yes sure uh here we are uh could you repeat the question, please?
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Who are you personally engaging near on-chain governance?
And yeah, that's a personal question.
And also how DragonStake involves that maybe are different,
different ways to how you guys do it since you have a great team.
Well, we have a team member that is in charge of the governance and communities of
the governance and communities of not only near but other networks and usually
we try to contribute mostly in the part of the education and and and documentation so every time we see a new advance, a new feature discussed or published by the NIA team, we study in deep with our boat because we consider our boat is
mainly metapool boat. So this is a privilege of the stakeholder. And in this case,
stakeholder and in this case uh we do like this also uh i would like to to comment a little my own
mathematics and profitability account data because i i'm not sure if i get uh correctly
correctly what previous member was explaining I think the APR of the network is 930 936 approximately
for example with a price of near of 2.7 delegation from from Metapool that we have is around 350,000 tokens.
With that data, we get around 4,500 a year.
As you can see, it's not too much
for the survival of a small variator.
This is something that all delegation programs
has in common.
They are not following the market
because sometimes you launch a delegation program,
you make your math and suddenly the market turn down
or like this and your calculus doesn't make the sense
you were looking for.
I think it's a suggestion for not only near
but many other delegation programs
that sometimes you should think something more flexible
or more calculated in a stable value
instead of the token value.
One of the lessons I've learned during all these cycles
of the market since the staking started the most difficult and
the most uh challenging skill you have to you have to you have to have is a to survive the markers
the market cycles i this is advice also for newcomers,
like some of the members of this call.
I encourage them to think further in the time
and to try to survive their cycles
because not most small validators,
they are doing long bear markets. so as long as you learn this lesson and you can
survive the next cycle will be better and better and better this is this is my my my advice here
and also try to try to leverage programs like like this one like the
Metapool program for for for NIA to best
Deal with those difficult moments of the
Operator node life that for sure will come so if the soon you prepare for those days
This the better for for your for your future in the market.
Thank you. That was a really insightful answer. Now let's go back with May. Since May,
I saw you are a marketing specialist. I assume that this was not in the list of questions, but I'm a bit curious with that.
So, which marketing tips for validators you will give us?
I mean, how do you develop them?
I think the audience is very difficult.
Do you mean in Vietnam?
I mean, for this sector of validators,
since there are some technical stuff,
or maybe how do you attract users to stake to your validator?
So, yeah, more about that hmm yeah it's a great question I think like about the sorry okay can you can you repeat like I mean the marketing
sites all like what I still don't get the question yeah I will make it simpler
if if you can give us three tips for marketing validators would be awesome I
think all the speakers will be glad to receive also, including me.
The marketing note or like-
Yeah, the marketing note, yeah.
Yeah, I think running like all four specific NIR
or like you asking about the other ecosystem also
um I think I think uh if you want to answer with NIR it's okay I think just the nodes is
is like a sector like a kind of audience Maybe we can change blockchains and stuff,
but it's a kind of...
Yeah, but I know this AMA is about...
Yeah, focus on NIR will be awesome.
Okay, so I think running a NIR relegator
has become far more accessible recently
thanks to the new incentive programs and their support structure.
And with the rewards, plus with the extra incentives for smaller operators
that make day-to-day operation more predictable,
it's like though the competition remains really fierce,
especially on the validator uptime, reputation, and delegator relationship. But yeah, I think with
the incentive programs and support structure really attract the users.
And like we do host events and like with the real time, weekly, daily updates of the statics and metrics.
So yeah, it's really, I think like if I'm a user, I think, yeah, this community is growing really
fast. And like, the hype between the community and among users is really, like, so far on fire. So,
yeah, I have the incentive to like, stick into it. Yeah.
incentive to like stick into it yeah thank you yeah i think that that was very insightful since
there are some special words for me that catch my attention like the uptime i think that is very
important especially here on near and especially when when the nodes are part of incentive programs like this.
So, thank you.
Let's go with Montagu.
Montagu, I would like to ask you...
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah, sorry.
I think my mic turned it.
Yeah, yeah.
What was the question again?
Yeah, yeah, sure.
What's been your hardest
technical challenge so far
and how did you solve it?
like as for me personally
even doing my job or like in terms of
validator itself?
Yeah, in terms of validator itself
maybe for your team or
I would say since you know i'm mostly
uh i'm not like one of the main operators like anything that's technical isn't handled by me but
like by the by the devs mainly but part of my job is researching and understanding the the technical architecture of
most of the networks that we validate and i would say what's challenging is that you know people say
proof of stake proof of stake in general but and that kind of makes you think that it it's all
similar across like all the blockchains that adopt this consensus mechanism.
But then when you dig a little deeper, it's always, it's never the same.
There are always these differences and these new designs that kind of makes you question like your ability to understand.
like your ability to understand so you gotta like think a little deeper and try and
communierize yourself with with different designs to in in order to be able to do your job better
and that i would say is the the most technical challenge that i've encountered and I'm still encountering so far.
That's interesting. When you do your research, which are the variables that maybe you compare with maybe another blockchain?
What made your team and yourself decide for near
i would say i would say like the what really helps between like one chain and another is like having
a very like detailed well-structured documentation like docs for like starting from like everything that's how do you
you know like spin up a node to i don't know how how the consensus itself like works in details and
and that differs from one chain to another sometimes it's like there's really nothing
except like a medium post or like very little details and that leaves you with trying to figure out the details and
but having having like really good docs for the devs and like people to start to start from
makes a difference and uh that was uh that wasn't a problem with near i'm happy to say like
documentation was like very thorough and good But yeah, documentation makes a big difference for me.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I heard a couple of times like Claudio and Lucio,
the founders of Metapool, start to say the same.
That was one of the main reasons why metapool born with near so
yeah that's uh interesting fact so you guys have good documentation too by the way so thanks for
that made the job easier just shout out to all the metapool team here so And thanks for the kind comments. Let's go with
Cruz. I always see
cool campaigns from RIA.
I would like to
that you are here
since you guys are specialists
with community.
What kind of tips would you give
to the rest of the projects to get more like stake with your validator
are you there, Cruz?
I guess Cruz is missing. Okay.
Sorry, sorry. oh yeah cool great um can can sorry sorry and if like again a question i hear half of it this one
yeah i mentioned that ria always have great social campaigns with community and growth so um
tips would you give to
the validators here
the speakers
from the other projects
that are part of this
what are the best
practices to get more stake
as validator
maybe talking about
how RIA is growing in the community or which kind of incentives are working better to make this mission successful.
So, yeah, it's just create more cool campaign, I guess.
Yeah, it's just create more cool campaign, I guess.
So just make it very fun and into the campaign.
And you need some spotlight in there
so everyone can make sure to join it.
Yeah, of course, you have some group chats right so you have make sure to have some fun in
it and the important things make sure or not it's always updates yeah and if you have something to
ask just maybe you can ask in the group chat as well.
So also remember your community are the biggest supporters and believers.
So we want to make the community feel they're part of the project with time and journey.
Yeah, that's it.
Thanks. And as a newer validator on this program,
what infrastructure lessons have been most valuable to you so far?
You mean the lesson, right?
Validator's lessons.
Yeah, about infrastructure.
About infrastructure.
Infrastructure.
Well, no worries.
You already answered one question.
I don't like to be abusive with two questions.
Let's continue with Freddy.
We are close to end this space
Thanks to everyone who joined here. If you have a question you can write your question in the comments
Ask for the microphone for for this last couple minutes
You have the chance right now
so Let's go with Freddy.
Freddy already gave us very insightful tips about nodes.
So I would like to ask him,
do you feel programs like this help to diversify the validator set, especially with initiatives for smaller operators?
Absolutely.
The incentive program, not only in all NERDBOX, helps to diversify the validator set.
to diversify the validator set because the staking has this little flow that
trend to accumulate in the top validators and there is only a human and for to to to fight again that natural process so incentive program like metapur
with near is the the way to go also leveraging treasuries and also
or trying to put at the service of the smaller, the marketing and the resource of the foundation or the project. This is essential. I see many networks in which you cannot opt
to funding like this and this kind of network used to end very centralized in very few validators.
very few validators as the near uh protocol team uh always remark the decentralization of the
protocol is is more valuable in this case because if near is expecting to to to work as a layer of software between AI
or between different chains using the NIR protocol
to extract the wallet or the user interface.
Trusted decentralization is a must in this kind of project
i don't know if that answer your question yeah yeah thank you thank you and now this
last section that we call future ambition would like to ask you freddy where do you
see institutional staking of near in two
institutional staking how is it going to affect New York no it's like more
talking in a visionary way yeah what do you expect for the future in two years three years
maybe the biggest crazy bar run uh beer market or whatever but talking more about uh technology
like maybe more banks more telecoms start to join firms like this what what are your idea for that
to join programs like this what what are your idea for that well I I can see a
future in which you you have millions of users on board that has no idea what
they are using behind behind their applications so for me all all blockchains are going are going
away a path in which they they collaborate they they make a like a fluid a fluid layer
a layer that interprets the desires of the of the user and execute it independently
of the network in which it is settled or in which network are the tokens or in which network are the value. So the same way you don't have an idea
of what infrastructure are behind this Twitter call.
We are using the Twitter call space
and we don't have an idea how the network is configured
or how the network is working behind this.
We just use it.
We will have this kind of application interface
for the user with a big button where you click
and you do the things that you want to do
without worrying about where are your tokens
or what is happening behind the scenes.
So this is the
this in this vision is shared by many projects including near and the multi-chain the fluid
the fluid layer of the value secure and trusted value layer is the the most
value layer is the the most the player vision i can see in this environment
thank you yeah i see a lot of things like that there are there are some technology already
done on near 30 it's called one click or something like that and now metapool is building uh things
with the node studio three clicks and you have note so it's not the same like professional node
operators but it still helps this decentralization so basically metapool has a mission to bring
change makers to near to centralize the network and attract the mass
true catalysts for change like you guys the speakers so thanks a lot to stay with us and
all the listeners that have been part of this space i probably learned a lot here with very insightful answers. So for end this space, I would like to ask the final thing
for the other speakers, starting with May, which are the last words that you would like to share
with all the Metapool community? Yeah, I just want to say thank you to metaphor and other panelists
presenting here today for driving these important conversations about piano um and also i appreciate
our dear community for having been supportive audience for the last hours yeah always happy to connect and answer
more questions if we can in the next ama yep yeah for sure and make sure to put your the
socials of caliber in the comments so people can can follow also don't don't forget to follow caliber and all the speakers here to stay tuned
for the news and now let's go with montagu some last comments that you want to share with the
community and also big thanks for stay with us i just wanted to say thanks for having us and thanks everybody who's been here in this space
listening to us rambling so we appreciate it thanks for you guys at menopool to take the time
and prepare all these spaces uh i hope you keep them going it's uh it's fun to be here with you guys. And yeah, thanks.
It was a pleasure to participate.
Now, Cruz, some last comments you want to share with the community?
Hello, hello.
Can you hear him?
Yeah, yeah.
OK. Oh, fine. What, hello. Can you hear him? Yeah, yeah. Okay, oh, fine.
What's the last word? Okay.
What I would say is that,
thank you for everyone who is participating in CMA,
the talks here.
So thank you for all.
Appreciate that opportunity.
So what I say, just Stay tuned to the Real Finance campaign, because there may be a surprise coming out.
And more partnership with different partners in the ecosystem, especially Metapool.
So stay tuned, stay tuned.
There will be a surprise coming out from Real.
That's interesting. An alpha on the space thanks
now the last one the the the last speaker that was very insightful also
so freddy some last words for for the community
works for the community.
I would like to also thanks to the people
that are actually this space.
Thank you, Metapur for having us here.
I expect to keep going the hard work you are doing
introducing new validators to your program and keeping up with the old ones.
It's impressive this job and the energy you put on this.
So I think NIA protocol should be proud of your work.
I hope to keep in touch with you and don't forget to follow
all the all the speakers here all the all the projects because we are in a very interesting
moment of the market we are at the point of uh shift in the in the economic politics politics
globally and good times are coming so enjoy the trip
thanks freddy and thanks to everyone for staying with us all this hour i would like to keep talking with with these smart people but time time is ticking
the clock is ticking and everybody must do other things so pretty sad for me but
probably we will have more editions of these kind of spaces so we can start maybe even more
So we can start maybe diving more more deep into new updates or patch of near with validators
and new kind of stuff. Also feel free to share your ideas in the comments and I would like to
ask you one last thing. So share some emojis of hearts for all our speakers and thanks to everyone
let's finish this space with hearts
appreciate it
thanks thanks to all the speakers thanks to all the listeners and see you you know next time or
listen you bye-bye have a nice day bye-bye have a nice day you too bye bye
nice day night afternoon wherever you are
thank you thank you thank you for the opportunities good night good morning everyone Thank you.