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Popkins Mint on Sui: The Mega Space.
Recorded: May 30, 2025 Duration: 1:25:51Space Recording
Short Summary
Klanosaurus successfully launched its Mint, attracting over 25,000 new users and showcasing innovative NFT mechanics. The project emphasizes community engagement and strategic partnerships, positioning itself for significant growth in the evolving NFT landscape.
Full Transcription
Thank you. so i'm gonna play this song uh feels super on brand uh you guys let me know if it's on brand
after it gets to playing um we'll start in a couple minutes i'm gonna play this brand give
me a sorry the song give me a quick second i was trying to shazam this what is this
oh nick yeah that's the twitter built-in song. Definitely don't Shazam it. Dude, when I do work, I need, like, non-lyrical music.
Oh, yeah, am I on stage?
Some of the boomers might not get this,
but the Zoomers out here will appreciate this. oh
yeah
there was no frame and you know i'm jumping out of the barrel yeah and i know what's happening
but i know i had to hang it yeah so the pain was savage
so 20 battles yeah they didn't
me I think it was a perfect fadeaway, to be honest, perfect fadeaway.
Guys, gals, we appreciate you all for joining in today.
Obviously, the Mint is still currently live, but we appreciate you all for joining us.
Please, please share, retweet, repost, re-engage with the space.
engage with the space for all the speakers obviously the main account as well and once
Follow all the speakers, obviously the Mint account as well.
again the uh the mass the massive massive surge yesterday um for the mints we appreciate you guys
it was pretty nuts we were live in slack channel at the same time it was absolutely nuts um nick
andrew micah blake plap um guys it's been a crazy 24 hours crazy crazy crazy week how are you guys feeling dude how are we feeling uh it's it's an incredible time uh for the team obviously we're we're we're
super super pumped uh as much as we are tired i think most of us must have slept about like two
hours um we're stuck to our guns we had a crazy idea and um and it feels like the space wants it and it's
uh it's a really special day for us you know like we've been doing this for just about three years
and uh to be able to finally release our first like mass expansion in a way that we think redefines
where mints should head in the future dude it's i'm at a loss for words, so I'm super, super pumped.
I feel like you guys are looking at me to go next
as a natural next speaker.
We are, we are.
Yeah, there's so many of these
that it feels good to be up here now
and sort of at this point
that we've launched everything
and onboarded another, I don't know, 25,000 people into the ecosystem that is Klanosaurus.
And we're super, super pumped to not to just launch, but like all the cool things that come on the back of launch.
Because as everyone knows, Klanos is not just launching NFT projects.
We're building these really great IPs.
So bringing the Popkins to life and tossing them inside of all the other things we do, the show, the game, the achievement system, that's going to be the real fun too.
So we're excited to have a whole new set of folks on board.
And then obviously the pack ripping next week is going to be so fun.
I see some comments on Twitter.
Oh, smooth experience, smooth experience.
Like this part was supposed to be smooth.
I would hope everyone can have a smooth experience at this point.
It's the pack opening next week that's going to be
bloody fun for everyone. So that's the
that's what I'm looking forward to now.
So many people up here, I want to pass to someone
else for once.
Plop, Blake?
I think from
my side, I'll just reiterate the excitement.
This has been, you know, eight, nine
months in the making.
The animation team has obviously been working night and day
to make this happen.
Jacques and the developers have been working night and day
for the last two months,
making sure everything's running smooth.
Last week, obviously, we had everything going on with CDIS,
so that was, everything's audited 10 times.
Okay, let's re-audit everything 10 times,
get some other people out here.
Tons of conversations to make sure that doesn't affect us.
Everything's smooth.
Everything's running great.
So far, you know, can't say I would have done anything differently.
As Cab mentioned, we had some, or as Andrew mentioned, we had some new people coming into the Discord.
Massive influx of people yesterday from the Asian communities.
So right as I thought we were starting to die off and I was ready to head to bed at 11pm,
we had another hundred people coming in and saying, hey, just figured out what this is.
Can you give me a rundown? How do I mint? How does this work? You explain it for 20 minutes.
And then right as you send that last message, someone comes in and says, hey, I'm new to the community.
Can you explain what this is and how it works?
And you're just like, oh, this is never going to end, is it?
So I think I got to bed at like 4 a.m. yesterday and then up at 6 to do it again.
So we all know the struggle.
We all know how it goes.
But it's been been an absolute hell of a ride so far.
Dude, I got a sidebar with what Sasha says.
And I brought Will in.
But we on the team,
you know, we primarily have have Will who can speak Chinese in this case because we had a
massive influx and on Discord.
And so, you know, the moderators, the whole team was up.
We had to call you, Sasha.
We're like, oh, my God, like we need backup on Discord because like someone needs to be
able to speak and we got to like welcome everybody.
And we'll crushed it. because like someone needs to be able to speak and we got to like welcome everybody and will
crushed it he started to like you know reply on tweets and guys yeah yeah there he is he's with
me yo what's up guys but yeah last night was a fucking movie it was crazy it was insane i i
didn't sleep until like 4 a.m i was just like in the trenches and on twitter on discord replying to
chinese people um so yeah that was crazy, crazy, crazy moment.
But a big, big shout out to the team, to Sash, to Buzz,
to everyone that stayed awake and trying to hold the fort.
And a big shout out to Polo, which is our new Chinese moderator
that's trying to help us, help the team answering all those
influx of Asian community coming community coming in in in the
clean of ecosystem but that's bullish guys that's great i'm so happy turbo bullish yeah and and we
also had i gotta i gotta say like we had so much help from community members like you know i'm
thinking like people like duma and uh so many long time collectors that stepped in to just help all
the mods and ourselves like whatever you guys need, we're in this together.
So we're so fucking thankful for the OGs that stepped up yesterday.
Yeah, all the holders, all the...
Blake!
I mean, they took what I was going to say.
I'm just blown away by the support of the community
and everything that we saw yesterday
in Discord. This, as you all know, is one of the most complicated things to communicate
to this audience specifically. It is something that's never been done for, and we've really just
changed the way minting, I think, looks or will look like in the future.
And so we had a pioneer mint and it couldn't have been more successful. And the community
just stepped up to try to explain all the details, how it works, why it's bullish. I mean,
it's just been absolutely incredible. So huge shout out to them.
In real time, watched Blake and Micah stay on discord locked in in front of the screens for at least two three hours straight
I don't think Blake during the entire time actually blinked so
Blake and Mike I showed you guys in the forefront of
Doing all of the the question responding question asking all that stuff
Say over to you on the suicide a lot of community members have not used SUI up until this mint.
Got some DMs about that yesterday.
How has it been from your guys' side, your POV?
Man, congratulations to all of y'all.
I sent a note in the group today.
Just, you know, truly I'm humbled and grateful to be able to work alongside such high-level
skilled operators.
I work with a lot of different teams, you know, and from the moment that we kicked off the partnership, the collaboration,
it was apparent the level of detail, the level of organization, coordination, clarity that you all
had. And it really, it stood out in a major way. And so, you know, I'd be lying if I said I was surprised
that everything went successfully, you know,
but that's really just more an acknowledgement
of how buttoned up the team has been from top to bottom,
every aspect, you know, of the team, the marketing,
the tech, the product, you know, the strategy,
all the stuff behind the scenes,
the things I know I don't even get visibility into.
It's just been so well orchestrated.
I think the only thing that I could point out is that, you know, because of how novel this approach was, people were still up to, you know, after it even went live yesterday, people are DMing me.
How do I get a whitelist? You know, oh man, they've hit 25,000, they ran out.
You know, I'm like, yo, I don't know how many different ways they can be communicated.
They can't run out. You don't need to freak out. There's no white list, you know
but it just really again is is an indication of how outside of the box shall approach this and
It's really dope to see man. It's really dope to save on
What was the initial reaction from native sui members on the chain up prior to prior to the mint and even post-mint?
I think it was just, you know, this buzz, you know.
I think it started when the announcement came out and people were like,
oh, shit, you know, the big leagues are coming to sui now, you know.
And rightfully so, I think, I know for a fact that this mint really is just
a corroboration of
that intuition that people shared about, you know, how critical having you all in the ecosystem
would be, not just from an energy standpoint, but even just validation, you know, in a market sense,
because you all are leaders and pioneers. And I'm really excited for the news that's coming out,
you know, in the not too distant future that I think really
will smack people over the head at the scale in which
y'all are playing at.
Yeah, man.
It's been well received
from folks natively. The process
I think is a really fun one, even at Base Camp.
As I was handing out the little packs
people were like, yo, what the fuck is this? What do I do?
And I'm like, hey man, just take it.
Hold on to that.
Now next time.
Exactly.
There we go. For some context of what Savon said,
I have some of the numbers here.
Let me pull this up really quick.
So there was 33,000 packs that were collected slash sold,
and there was overall 23,000 unique users.
This is obviously going to change as time goes on.
Obviously only going to increase.
So we'll see what happens tomorrow. To Plop's point earlier, I had logged off around four or
five months to eat. Before I left, I literally said Asia has not woken up yet. Two hours later,
later, Asia definitely woke up. It was quite incredible waking up to that as well, which was
awesome to see. Nick, we mentioned on the podcast a few times as well
that this mint was definitely different than the previous mints.
And your overall experience, what made it so different?
Man, it's just, it's the whole mechanics behind it.
Well, first of all, just from a creative POV,
you know, I think that our creative team has an ability to tell stories
above, you know, above and beyond anything that you're used to seeing in the space.
And when you're dealing with collectibles, that's a big part of it is telling stories. And we wanted
a mint that had that could exist in the Klanoverse and be very much an extension of it. But that
could also feel like a seasonal release
and feel like the stuff that the great collectible companies,
like the Popmarts and so forth,
or even like the Rolexes are doing, right?
And in our case, it was like,
well, how do we create a whole branded experience
around a new release?
How do we get everybody kind of excited
about what that means for from a storytelling
POV but also from a collectible POV from a tech POV and from you know just the overall narrative
surrounding the mint and the fact that we were like dude like there's there is a right way of
doing collectibles in the space and maybe people don't see it yet, but they sure they damn sure will. And we feel that after tonight or after yesterday, people are seeing it.
And and yeah, I think the mechanics are so interesting and are heading in the right direction.
This whole ethos that we're refunding booster packs that don't have Popkins in them, but have other gamified experiences is a big part of that and I think that it also
solves the kind of you know supply and demand issue that secondary markets in NFTs often see
or collectible so you know the more packs that people are buying up until the the reveal I think
there's this assumption that all of that is going to have a lot of people that miss out
you know on on the open the packs not everybody gets a popkin then they're going to go into
secondary markets and and and look for the collectibles that they want but they've also
won a slew of stuff and they got their money back anyways it's like a really really fun gamified uh experience nick the first mint uh you guys made history obviously you guys won an award i believe
through the history that was made uh this time around history has also been made um
what's your prediction on the next award winning potentially
dude you know what it's i would love to for us to win an emmy when the time comes
but uh jokes aside um yeah i i think from um you know we'll apply to any awards that that we can
especially um awards that lean heavy on animation and tech uh we'll do it for sure for popkins um
but dude the sky's the limit. We're going to shoot,
this time we're going to shoot for experiential awards too.
So oftentimes you can shoot,
you know, for things like best website,
but you can also shoot
for like best digital experiences.
And I think that there's no reason
not to aim for that in the award space.
We're also going to go
for the largest and quickest refund in the commerce history
guinness book of world records because that's going to be massive
like i hate to ask but i'll ask what's the previous uh the previous uh owner or the previous
winner i guess number oh i don't know i'm assuming that it exists we'll look into it that's uh what's the number we need
to beat is the question yeah yeah it for sure exists yeah for sure exists um andrew you love
talk about the tech and how great the tech is um how was the tech on this side how did it hold up
for the mint uh how was it well dude i think it's time for us to turn and ask everyone else right
like proof is in the pudding if you minteded, like, was it difficult? Was it hard? Like, did it feel easy? Was it smooth? I think at the outset, when you have the most volume, when I was speaking to Jacques about this, the failure rate, like on transactions was less than 1%. It was like 0.8% or something. And it was like a small little bug
that got fixed very quickly. So, you know, on the tech side, things have been smooth as can be,
right? And, and I think that's a big thing, right? Because, you know, there's a lot of
transactions coming simultaneously. You know, one of the theories or one of the theses we have is
like, you know, parallel processing is important to seamless entertainment experiences um and while this experience itself is not
entertainment it's it's transactional a lot it's still a great test so i mean i'm super pleased by
it i know jacques too and he's more tech uh you know heading up that department than i am but
i i think we're really really impressed by what's happened so far. And so, so far, things are going really, really well.
So theory, you know, checkbox next to the first test, so to speak.
There we go.
I think one of the things like, and I know we talked about it so much internally, but it's, you know, there was this question mark whether the space is ready for a true collectibles ecosystem.
What does it mean for the OG collectibles?
You know, all that kind of
stuff and andrew my andrew had written such a great piece on where he thinks um nfts are heading
and and you know where collectibles head the fact that the um that the og uh like premium collectibles
have not dumped and are and are going up uh in tandem with the Popkins released is a massive,
massive signal for us and is huge.
And it's something that all the,
the,
the holders of the OG Klanosaur should be really proud about because it,
it is proving the thesis.
And,
and,
you know,
for us kind of leading the way there is,
is really special and it's pretty historical.
Nick, I did get some DMs yesterday, too, to your point.
The fact that the mint was going so well has gone so well.
People were even more bullish on OG Klainos.
A couple of friends of mine actually picked them up after minting yesterday, which, to your point, is exactly what happened.
But seeing it happen in real time so close to the heart was very, very nice to see.
Andrew mentioned the tech, the heart was uh was very was very very nice to see um andrew mentioned the
tech the fact that it was pretty seamless uh speaking of someone who had no issue minting
yesterday uh sasha plop uh how was your experience made a quick tweet pinned it up top i heard you
were feeling underexposed yesterday so you did grab some more uh sasha plop take us through that
why'd you do it?
I think that one's going to speak for itself. So as a lot of people in the community do know,
a lot of people in the community didn't know, I'm somewhat of a mini whale here. Not a top five holder by any means, but been slowly, slowly accumulating Klaino's over the last two years.
Every time they dipped, every time I had a little bit of disposable income, every time I flipped a quick meme,
I threw it into Claynose
because I believe in what we're doing.
You know, I think it speaks volumes
to the project as a whole,
you know, to put your money where your mouth is.
And in this case, for me,
we've been saying, you know, for a while now
that we're aiming to be the Disney of Web3.
And we don't say that don't say that like lightly.
So for me, I believe that wholeheartedly picked up 120 Klainos plus a plus a pizza.
I minted those day one, claimed them.
And then as I saw that ticker starting to go up, I realized this was very quickly going to reach 25,000.
And, you know, in the next couple of days, way, way higher than that.
So I picked up, what was it, 295 more packs to join in the raffle and join in on the fun.
So if that doesn't get you pumped, I don't know why it will.
Very well said. Speaking of other believers, other collectors, Meta, we appreciate you joining us on stage here alongside Sasha Plop, the rest of us.
How's the experience been? How are you feeling? And what does Klaino mean to you?
I'm feeling super, super bullish.
I'm glad I classed up like a hundred of my Klainos in like the couple of weeks before the 26th.
It's great. I mean, truly like well beyond my best expectations
for how the sale is going so far.
And, you know, I'm pretty bullish on Clannosaurus.
I have a crazy amount of my net worth
already in the company,
both in Equity and in, you know, Clannosaurus.
I'm like top 10, a top 10 holder.
And yeah, I think it's going to be
like really truly insane from here
because like the
way these mint mechanics are designed is anyone that wants you know a thousand dollars in exposure
now to the actual underlying nfts has to buy like 1.6k in tickets because you know the drop right
now is not is not a hundred percent so the more sell, the more size people have to ape in to get like
the allocation they want. Like I think that we'll see this at, you know, over 100 million in raised
by the end. I mean, obviously, anything over 50 is a massive win. But like the way these raffles
and pre sales work, like most of the volume comes down in the last 24 hours, because like right now,
if you commit your capital, one, you might, you might get like 60K worth of Popkins if you buy
100K worth of raffle tickets, and you're locking up that 60K or that 100K for a week. Whereas if you,
you know, ape 100K in the last day, you might only get 10K in actual
Klinos or Popkins and your capital is like sitting idle for much less time.
So I'm like shocked at how much demand has been.
I think it could go parabolic from here.
Very well said.
Meta, quick question.
You've been here for a while collecting, supporting the guys, obviously equity side, NFT side
as well.
So you've had two different frames to operate in.
You've had the frame of learning about the brand when it first started back in 2022,
literally during the FTX crash was really the worst time to launch a mint.
The guys did it anyways, successful mint once again.
And then you have the frame that currently lives today of how the brand's evolved, grown, out of team members, all that stuff.
How has it changed in your mind?
What was the first frame you used when you first heard about the klano brand and how was it changed literally three
years later i mean to my mind uh you know nick and andrew when i met them were a scrappy startup
they had a great idea but you know there's so many things that stand between you know where
they are today and where they were then i I think they've executed top 95th percentile
in terms of how well this could have gone.
Everything, like, my thesis has always been
that Web2 timescales and media timescales
because I actually invest in media and entertainment companies
for my job.
I work in private equity investing in this sector.
They're moving super rapidly
for media and entertainment.
And Web3
DGENs, the space,
just isn't used to those types of timescales.
So I'm super excited to see everything
come together for the team.
I think that the next week is going to be
truly insane.
Nothing that the Clean & Source community has ever seen before.
And it's honestly just
really, really cool to see
the team have that much
success, because I think that'll go into
all the assets. I'm actually just about to ape
some more Klanos, because I think
that sooner or later, this thing
hits $50 million in volume on
the third collection
on Sweet.
You better believe that the OG Klan's are worth more than $2K.
I agree with that, too.
It's a good POV, actually.
It's a good POV.
Andrew, the better Andrew, we spoke yesterday, two days ago, whenever it was, on the show,
how the IP rights and media distribution in our industry is vastly different than the
one outside of it.
You mentioned the demand scale as well,
the demand curve with all the different price points.
I would love that take again
on the actual spaces right now,
for everyone listening.
Yeah, I think Metaversal just kind of hit it a little bit,
which is like, I think the narrative around NFTs
has always been like looking backwards,
like what's been successful
and let's rinse and repeat that,
which is small supply
and like try and push a lot of demand into it. But if you look at like how collectibles actually succeed,
it's much, much bigger sets of collectibles that offer entry points across a demand curve.
That's far, far more like a wider spread. So for instance, the examples I usually give are the ones
that people think about. It's like sports memorabilia, it's sneakers, it's maybe it's watches, it's Pokemon is the one that
comes to mind most obviously. And on like a Pokemon collectible spread or like unit spread,
if all of those things were NFTs, you'll have some NFTs that are five cents and you'll have
some NFTs that are a hundred thousand dollars. you need to have a widespread in order to onboard
people on one end to become collectors and then over time participate at the higher end of that
demand curve later on or over some period of discovery depending on how you get there. And
that collector's journey is super important, but it doesn't exist when you offer, if you have one
grail collection or one or two big collections that are at a very restrictive price, it's really,
really tough to onboard people directly into there without having like an exploratory level,
so to speak, you know? So, and I'm not just driving that off of like some BS narrative,
like it's written in history across all of these collector collectors universes. And the one that comes to mind is like,
even in the digital world,
you've got counter strike has got like a,
a $5 billion marketplace for its skins.
I played counter strike for actually,
I don't know if people know this.
I played counter strike basically professionally when I was like 15.
but that was like a long,
long time ago.
He just be dejanning 1.6.
If anyone knows what that is,
but in the back then you couldn't do that.
But you need to have played and participated in the game to appreciate that stuff.
And today, you've got this huge collector's market where you do have some skins that cost tens of thousands and some that cost, obviously, very little.
So the narrative currently in NFT space is floor price, floor price, floor price.
And the way we're designing the collections is that will apply to the OGs. And I think that's right. But if you look at the floor price or the price offered
across the entire ecosystem of the brand, the idea is to increase the price or make the collectibles
more collectible, right? By offering more accessible units at a lower price. And so this is a step in that direction.
And then the example I gave on the discussion a couple days ago
is that that's one end, right?
Because you've got the Web 2 side too.
Well, okay, but Clanness was always doing a TV show.
They're also doing a video game.
And those two things are similar, right?
So how do I translate someone from the TV show,
passive watcher, into an OG
collector who might spend tens of thousands of dollars on this digital collectible? That bridge
is too far for someone to jump from right now. So on the one end, on the NFT Web3 side, we're
building out collections that go further down the demand curve, right? From that OG spot down into,
like I say, Popkins now. And on the other
side, the show has a video game. And inside the video game, you're introducing from a nine and
12 year old demographic, an interactive place where you can collect digital things that are
free. And perhaps you can spend a little bit of money in there as well. If you want to upgrade
a Klaino or get another egg that results in this different thing you're trying to collect.
And that's a different level of collectorship at a very, very,
very low price.
Like I said,
it's free to play with the option to pay more for more collectibles.
And between those two polarizing things,
passive viewing on the show and original collection in web three,
in the digital collectible space,
we're building a bridge.
So the game is a step to the left from the show. And the Popkins
is a step to the right from the original collection. And over time, we're going to bridge
those things that translates fandom into this upstream network of the NFTs itself. And this is
so counter to what the current rhetoric is, which is short supply, short supply, short supply, short
supply, and then try and build demand with who you, you, there's nothing for people to participate in. Right. And that's the
big mistake that I think people make. And so that's like, that's what we're doing. I think
today, so our system launched yesterday is a Testament that we're like, people are understanding
and have faith in what we're trying to do. I will say it is also very difficult to create
collections that are within the same universe
and equally as collectible and still have, you know, a value prop and are fun.
This is why our team comes in really, really clutch is, you know, we've got, and I'm starting
this off as everyone already knows this, I think, but, you know, Cab and all the creative
guys, Will and the rest of them, a lot of these guys have worked on things like from
the Minions, the Game of Thrones. They've worked on Oscar winning movies.
They've worked on animators.
We've got quality designers
and people that know how to do this.
So that's the spiel.
I'll stop.
But there was a big plan
and we're taking steps in either direction
to bridge the gap
and really onboard people
into what will be the first
on-chain collectible franchise.
Yeah, Andrew, POV,
Plab and Meta,
just listen to that, both of them in real time.
I think they have their hand over the buy button again,
or the sweet button.
We'll check back with them in a couple of minutes
and see if they made any decisions
off of your TED Talk response.
We appreciate that.
Kalini, Tradeport, welcome.
Appreciate you guys jumping on the show,
jumping on the spaces rather.
How have you been? What's going on in your world?
And how has it been the POV outside looking in into the Popkins Mint this week?
Things have been great. This is Louis behind the Trade Port account.
Unfortunately, Daniel's out, so you got the B team today.
But I think some words that come to mind are, some of you have already said it,
is just excitement for what's to come and gratitude um
i know i can speak for a lot of the sui ecosystem uh in that we're extremely grateful that you guys
chose sui as your voice for where you choose to expand as andrew was talking about creating that
bridge between um all the awesome things you guys are trying to do with the game and et cetera.
And we're super excited.
It's just been an absolute pleasure from a personal standpoint,
working with Cab, meeting Cab and Jacques at Base Camp
and collaborating with Blake, Micah, the rest of the crew,
as we look to make sure we support from a secondary standpoint,
secondary trading standpoint and beyond.
So we're super excited.
Something that really stood out to me is Cab's talk at Basecamp,
where essentially the kind of the fundamental problem
you guys are trying to solve with building IP
and not being dependent on this old studio model.
I think you guys have just been a shining example of a success story
of a team of
disenfranchised, really good creators that came together and wanted to build your own IP.
And one thing I'm super excited about as well is the Entertainment Accelerator and you guys,
as you look to launch this, not only this, but also empowering new creators and what that means for the future of SWE.
Great take. I have to ask, as you brought it up, Nick's presentation, very like TED Talk,
very similar to Steve Jobs' presentation on Apple. What was the thing that you enjoyed the most
from what he said? There's probably one highlight, one word,
one sentence, one hook that stuck with you.
What was it?
The fact that we both agree on the last
season of Game of Thrones.
There we go.
It's always something.
Your thoughts better be relatively negative.
Otherwise, I'm not sure we can be friends.
Every time I say
I supervise on Game of Thrones,
I have to fucking specify it's not the final season.
It's not there.
That preface was... I can confirm that.
I can confirm that.
He's very, very particular in making sure people know that.
No, but on a serious note,
I mean, I already mentioned the Entertainment Accelerator,
just the fact that y'all are the example
you're trying to set in the ecosystem.
I often ask myself like what
we're doing at trade port and just within the suite community what we're doing to continue to
onboard the next billion users as that gets it's tagline that gets thrown around and um just the
fact of how you guys are building out popkins unleashed how that's interconnected with the
entire ecosystem um i think you guys are doing a great job doing your part.
And I think it's also a call to action
to a lot of people within the SWE ecosystem
to look at what we're doing as well
and how we're going to do our part
in bringing in those next billion users on chain.
Very well said.
Got a couple of DMs just now now the mint is obviously still active still alive
um check the plano account the the link the website is a couple posts down you'll find i'll
even post it up top for you guys that are um that are asking me in dms um andrew nick we mentioned
the ip incubation entertainment accelerator would love to get your guys thoughts on where you want to take this thing and why it's important
well i know cab's waiting for me to go um okay so yeah i'll talk about the creatives but you go
first okay i'll i'll count i know what to leave out then um yeah so i think the like obviously
the way we're we're incubating ip you know i spoke about the collectible stuff and that's how we're going to innovate on the web3 site there's a obviously the way we're incubating IP, you know, I spoke
about the collectible stuff, and that's how we're going to innovate on the Web3 side.
There's a bunch of things we're doing that are super innovative on the Web2 bringing
IP to life side.
A lot of that obviously leans into Web3 collectorship, all this behind the scenes, letting people
in early, building fandom early.
I say that slowly and loudly because I think that's the big, big part of it.
And letting people under the hurt earlier on,
testing and so on.
So a lot of studios that we've spoken to
simply are too big to even approach it this way.
A lot of them are curious
and then don't know how all the parts work together.
Some are exploring with success
that might be often luckier than it is tactful
or like tactical, I should say. So I think that when it comes to new
IP and the accelerator, what we want to do is bring in more quality IP. Nick's going to talk
about why, but we have a whole load of creative talent that we speak to very often. This includes
folks that have directed before, folks that are creative directors at
Netflix, folks that are already running massive social media accounts that exist at scale.
And our view is we want to help these folks create fandom. And I think that's the big part
of what's missing in the web two arena today is that, or actually the non-web three, the traditional
entertainment space is that brands really struggle to build to build fandom in a world where you got so much content from
youtube from streaming from and then just like social media um um competition so you might watch
a great movie or even a series of great movies but you're not really able to build fandom because
there's no ongoing thing to do there There's no ongoing relationship with the brand,
which is why gaming does so well
because there's always an ongoing thing to do.
You play the game, it builds fandom,
but in entertainment or non-gaming entertainment,
it doesn't happen.
So our view is you've got to be everywhere.
You've got to be there often.
And fans actually want more
than just the content itself, we've learned.
They want to be like behind the scenes. They want to hear about how people are thinking about things.
That is to say that the folks making the business decisions or the creatives making the creative
decisions. And so the future of brand building, we think is, is wide open, fully transparent as
much as possible. And, and then with the creators, fans, it's about bringing your fans into the pie
and rewarding them. You've got big brands like Lord of the Rings, like Star Wars, that are really
built off of fandom. The most popular websites for both of those big brands are fan-built websites
that are not built by the official IPs. And they carry so much value for that brand and receive
nothing in return, they get taken for granted. that brand and receive nothing in return.
They get taken for granted.
And I think we're in an era where that just won't be the case anymore.
I think the brands of the future will be built off of inclusion of fans, especially participatory
fans, contributing fans, and so on and so forth.
And so that's what we want to do.
We want to accelerate really great IP with really great creative partners, and
We want to accelerate really great IP with really great creative partners.
And Cab will talk about more of that.
Kab will talk about more of that, using the tools we have, most predominantly
building up fandom and rewarding fans.
And that's kind of where our achievement system comes in play, because we've only
launched it about a month ago, but it will build into a very mega machine that is
meant to fairly transparently reward fans for their contributions into a brand in a
very meaningful way. And I think
that's the future of brand building, especially in the entertainment space. I could go no deeper.
I think transparency across all corporate world is going to become, we're going to enter an age
of transparency across all businesses. I think that's the future, but entertainment space, I
think is really, really right for it right now because there's just so many problems.
I'll let Kat go. Yeah, I think it's really right for it right now because there's so many problems um I'll let cab go though yeah I think I think it's it's really about compounding returns for
for stuff for stuff that like fans are doing already like anyways right it's like a better
user journey and it's all on chain as far as the creatives are concerned I'll try to keep it short
I know it's a running gag with with cab um but like Andrew, I speak daily to creatives from the Pixar's and from the Dreamworks
and the Sony's and Paramount's and all the companies and also creators in social media
that run, like Andrew said, big social media accounts. And these are all independents or
people that are working in these companies that are extremely disenfranchised. The entertainment
industry is kind of falling apart. Metaverse actually does a
much better job than I do in explaining why streaming is kind of like, you know, fucking
everything up. But the point is, these creators have no leverage. And a lot of them are sitting
on ideas that will never see the light of day. Or they just have no leverage to go up against like
Disney or whatever,
most of those companies will just straight up buy their properties
and toss them aside, or they'll buy them,
have them work on it for five years, and shelf the fucking thing anyways.
People in Web2 know us.
I know that's kind of like a weird thing to say, but it's the truth.
Like our algorithms in Web2, whether it's LinkedIn or whatever,
are through the roof right now, and the questions we get are insane where it's like man you guys are fucking doing it like
what is going on if we can tap into the thousands of creators in that work network that trust us
because they know what we signify they also know that hang on what these guys are doing with nfts
it's not what we've heard on the news.
We have an army of thousands of creatives that have built their own incredible, incredible IPs that we can leverage and all of it funnels into the Klanosaurus ecosystem. Like it's,
it's a beautiful thing. It's a real thing. It's something we think about a lot. And we're,
we're in discussions with so many creators about this stuff. And so a lot of that is going to come to fruition or come to light
pretty soon. But it's been a wild journey. Thank you, Nick. Blake, over to you next.
What are some important dates people should look forward to get down the calendars,
all the good stuff yes um so
obviously we just kicked things off yesterday there is still plenty of time to join the mint
it does not close until june 3rd um right now we're looking at closing it just so everybody
knows we'll make an official announcement but we're looking at closing it at 11 a.m eastern
on tuesday june 3rd so you have up until that point to participate in the mint um immediately
after that is when we'll begin our distribution and refund process so we'll start to you know
obviously have a better idea of what the the final count is for mint and we'll start to distribute
all the escape and legendary packs.
So people will find out whether or not
they drew a pumpkin pack or not.
That's gonna take Tuesday and Wednesday.
And then the plan is right now
is that the reveal and pack opening party
will kick off on Thursday, June 5th
at 11 a.m. Eastern time too. And we've got some really cool stuff
planned for everybody. The brand account is going to host a live stream. Sasha already showed his
bag in the tweet that he posted. So he's going to take the lead at just ripping packs for everybody
to see. And then we've got a bunch of other creators lined up that will carry the torch throughout the rest of the day.
And we encourage everybody else to participate.
Open your packs live on X
or wherever the heck you stream at.
Doesn't matter.
Just have fun with it.
And we're just going to be celebrating
what it feels like to have this whole entire experience
on chain.
It's going to be super awesome.
Blake, and will we be putting more content out in terms of the dates,
or is there a current thread people can look for for all the dates that are important?
Yeah, everything will come from the brand account.
We'll probably have some leadership tweets, but we'll do a whole schedule.
We'll get the people who are doing it, who are making content for us involved.
Yeah.
There we go.
There we go.
Meta, you're on mic.
Maybe you want to say something.
Yeah, I was just going to say that I bought 21 more Klainos.
There we go.
After Andrew's speech, right?
After Andrew's TED Talk, right?
After, I mean, I rehearsed that TED talk with Andrew I've heard before it's more than like this thing is literally gonna hit
100 like my prediction is 100 million in volume on on the raffle tickets so
having a 25 million market cap NFT collection just feels free from here you
saw my bag and you wanted to outdo me on this space, don't lie.
He's gonna squeeze you.
He's squeezing you.
Plap, you gotta retaliate though, Plap.
You gotta retaliate. You can't let him do that to you.
You gotta retaliate. Come on.
Alright, BRB.
Give me a follow if you want to see my post about
why I'm aping this so hard.
And excuse the team or Chad's
TLDR.
Some good back and forth.
We love that.
Nick, one of my many friends who's a Pokemon collector
while still being over the age of 18, myself included.
What are some things that people should look forward to
when collecting and chasing these packs?
The chaser cards, the chaser packs, maybe some features that people should look forward to when collecting chasing these packs the chaser cards the chaser packs uh maybe some some features that people should look we'll go for next week
um if you can give some alpha we know your favorite title unofficial title as we call it
is a cl clo chief leak officer over to you nick all right um usually will will does a better job
at explaining this but basically we threw in so many chasers in this.
And I don't know if someone can find the post because he just sneak peeked yesterday, some of the rares and some stuff like that.
But we threw in misprints, which are kind of like almost like secret traits or issues perhaps with with like that might feel like a bug but it's actually not it's just in
there as an easter egg um there's a lot of secret traits that are not in the metadata that's on
purpose you guys are meant to find them and then uh you know the ideas the idea of the uh of that
popkin uh is something that you guys are going to start talking about um if it makes sense later
down the road to add in the metadata, you know, we could,
but for now we wanted to leave it out because it's very much like the approach that you guys
have seen like with a Shadow Charizard, for example, on Pokemon cards. Aside from that,
we've got like things like what they look like in the 3D software, for example. So those are super
rare. I think there's one for each species there might be
some that are um animated in a slightly different way so for example like on the snarl fins there
are some that are swimming those are those are uh chasers um and and we threw in a slew of like
surprises um sometimes it's a small tweak in the in the pattern and the texture all these fun little
things again we looked at it under the magnifying glass and we're like, okay,
like the Klaino's collection was really built for collectors by collectors.
How do we really up that ante a little bit and really create a whole gamified chaser ecosystem
where you're not looking for floors or whatever.
You're, man, and this is what works so well with the Klaino's collections. Like you're looking for the ones that you want, and this is what works so well with with the clay knows collections like you're looking for the ones that you want and you're really trying
to build your group of blind box collectibles very well said uh nick over to you still you uh
you put us a couple tweets yesterday well more than a couple tweets a couple hundred tweets if
anything a couple hundred tweets every 30 minutes nick's tweets every every 30 minutes nick's tweeting
literally 30 minutes on a cadence and to be honest like nick doesn't schedule any of his tweets it's
all kind of in real time which is super impressive like we just schedule this no we just we just put
stuff out nick nick's like just twitter fingering stuff out um there was a couple big buys more than
a couple big buys in terms of like dollar number yesterday. You tweeted this.
Nick, how crazy was that?
You don't got to mention the names, obviously, but some pretty crazy stuff happened yesterday
in terms of like the large buys.
It was wild.
There was a couple 500 booster pack clips.
I think since then there must have been some bigger ones.
There was a few 400s.
Actually, Sasha has way more visibility on that.
So Sasha, I don't know if like there's a few 400s. Actually, Sasha has way more visibility on that. So Sasha,
I don't know if like there's a few ones that you have in mind, but there was some huge buys on on
the booster packs. Yes, stat wise, I think, I think it's important to note that we were looking
at that real time, and we were just absolutely baffled by it. But I think, Nick, you and I were
looking at it. And over the course of half an
hour, there were probably five to ten purchases of 500 packs, a couple in the 400s. And once the
momentum started to go, it really had a snowball effect there. So honestly, I wouldn't be surprised
if we see that again, especially the last day. I spoke to a lot of the holders on what their
strategy is going to be, and with that five-day window, we either had people who said, I spoke to a lot of the holders on what their strategy is going to be. And with that five-day window, we either had people who said, I want to get it over with,
you know, shut up, take my money type of mint experience.
I want to be over with it.
I want to have my packs.
I want to have that peace of mind.
Go to bed, wake up on the 5th with them revealed.
Whereas some other people who are a little bit more active in trading wanted access to
that USDC, time value of money.
I can make another couple
trades, and I'm going to just load up on the last day. On the last day, you also have a better idea
of what those odds look like. So in my mind, I'm anticipating a very, very big day to push
into the close on the second and into the morning on the third. But yeah, we've already seen probably 20 to 30,
500 pack buys,
and wouldn't be surprised if we, you know,
three or four X that going into the last day.
Bob, stupid, stupid question,
but like, why would people kind of wait to the end here?
And like, second question,
what's kind of the process,
really high level, low level,
whatever you want to like actually buying some,
like from wallet transfer, USD buys, all that stuff.
Absolutely. So from the psychological point of view, they're not psychological, but just like trading psychology.
A lot of people like to have that USDC as long as possible. So if you imagine, you know, we started it yesterday.
The reveal itself is the fifth and you know you have until the third.
A lot of people like to hold on to that USDC for as long as possible. They can go make a trade, you know, Bitcoin, NFT,
meme coin, whatever your style, you have access to that money for a little bit longer. And
we saw the trading, this part a little bit more psychology on famous foxes with all of
the raffles with barrels on SMB back in the day, where the last day, especially on these
raffles where the odds are not fixed, you have a better idea of what your chances are going to be
as you get closer to that deadline, right? So half an hour before the deadline, and we're at,
you know, let's say 100,000 packs. Okay, mental math, 5,000 are guaranteed for Klaino holders. For the class selection, we've got 95 packs for 20,000 PFPs.
Okay, that's roughly 20%.
So if I want to buy 10 of them, well, I'm going to do 10 times 5.
I'm going to buy 50 packs, and I might end up with 18.
Or sorry, I might end up with 8.
I might end up with 12, and I'll pick up the remainder on the open market um but i think for me those are the two big things there from the experience
um jacques i know he's not up here right now because he's madly going through
um trying to fix any small little technical bugs making sure all of the uh the contracts are secure
um he's an absolute chad absolute legend if you don't know Nipom, go follow him. But him and the team with Dynamic over with Mists and Labs, they've developed a system absolutely incredible. What we've done here is the Mint itself is on SUI in USDC. So we decided not to accept other currencies just to keep things simple and really drive home the fact
that, okay, this one's over on Sui.
So we leave the swap up to you, whether that's a centralized exchange, if you want to have
the lowest fee or nice and easy on Phantom, you can do it straight from Bitcoin, Ethereum
or Sol.
You can do it from USDC on any of those and you can do it directly from your Phantom
wallet.
You can also go and bridge that. There's a number of different platforms out there that you can do it from USDC on any of those, and you can do it directly from your phantom wallet. You can also go and bridge that. There's a number of different platforms out there that you can do.
Once you've got that, you log on to the website, and that should be in the pinned tweet on the main Klanosaurus account in the Mint thread.
If you can't find it there, go to the Discord, check the announcement section.
But you go on, you connect all of your Solana wallets as the current collections, the
OG, Saga and Pizza are all on Solana. We need to know what you have. So for the experience, for the
users in our ecosystem, they connect those Solana wallets. We register what NFTs they have and we
give them the booster pack associated with that. So again, if you have a class selected Klaino, an ancient,
which is our one of ones, a pizza or a dactyl, you get a guaranteed pack. So this means that there's no calculation, there's no am I going to win, am I not, you get a Popkin on the third.
But you do have to claim that before then. If you don't have a class selected, you get a free booster pack,
but that is part of the raffle. So you want to calculate your odds a little bit more there.
And if you're outside of the ecosystem, you connect to the website, you put in, you know,
whatever wallet you want, whether that's phantom, whether that's slush, whether that's backpack,
whatever your style is, you have to make sure in either case, both community
members and outside people, that you connect a SUI wallet.
And really, really important, go on to the wallet on the website and click set as primary.
What this does is that is the destination that you are going to mint to.
So if I have a SUI wallet and I've got USDC in there, I want to make sure that I hit set as primary
so that the NFTs go into that wallet.
Once you've minted, now you sit back, you wait,
you look at those odds very carefully
and determine are you happy with it?
Do you want a couple more packs?
Do you want to go tweet about it
and support the SUI ecosystem as well as Klanosaurs?
Get everybody else involved.
We'll make sure that we amplify your tweet as well.
And then on the third, all of the raffles are going to stop.
We're gonna start processing what are the odds,
release those numbers of how many packs there are,
what is the percent chance of opening them.
And on the fifth, we're gonna have a reveal.
So on June 5th, everybody's packs are going to reveal into what
they are. And the different types of packs are the rat packs. That is all of the pizza collection
that we released in New York 2023, I believe it was. Those will automatically turn into a rat.
There are 650 of those. The remaining 24,350 will be distributed to the legendary packs.
So the legendary pack means that you got a Popkin, and the other packs will have a chance at an escape card, or some cool ecosystem rewards.
Stuff like eggs that are going to be in-game assets once the game with Gameloft is released in October,
or a chance to win an OG Klaino.
So we really wanted to gamify this and make sure that the winners obviously win.
You get a Popkin, that's what you're here for.
But if you lost, you get a full reimbursement of $200 USDC, and we cover the gas.
So you put in $200, we covered your gas, we send it back, we cover the gas, you get $200 back. So you're not losing a penny on that. On top of that, you have the pity cards and everything else.
The escape cards are really cool. We wanted to basically create a leaderboard for the unluckiest
minters. And the way that this works is there's nine different packs. Each one has a different
amount of value and a different drop rate. So obviously, the
lowest drop rate is roughly 2%. That'll get you 50 pity points. And that is, you know, we take pity
on you, right? So these cards are going to be completely soulbound, meaning you can't buy them,
you can't trade them, you get what you get. So if you get eight of those, you might be incentivized, well, I need
some more, right? Or, you know, too bad. I got eight of nine. I can't buy one from a friend.
There's no OTC. They're soulbound to your wallet. And the 50 people with the highest amount of pity
points will win OG Clayno. Now, these aren't any OG Clayano. We did use some of the royalties or the majority of the
royalties on the Clay and Claymaker collection to sweep some Clanos to add to the vault. But we've
also thrown in 30 Clanos that we minted on mint day and have never interacted with an exchange,
with a protocol, with a marketplace. These are true virgin NFTs that were minted and have been sitting in
this wallet for the last two and a half years. We've got, I believe there's four charcoals,
three mist. So people who are new to the ecosystem, Andrew's got a charcoal dodo,
the charcoals, the all black and the albino is the mist. We've also got a four layer Rex,
absolute beauty of an NFT, as well as a cotton
candy apres trice, which is heavily sought after. So these are some NFTs that are valued at two,
three, $4,000, depending on if you find the right collector who values that provenance of an NFT
that's never interacted with a marketplace. So again, if you win, you get a pop cat, a pop, a pop cat, a pop kin. If you lose,
you get all your money back plus a chance to win some cool NFTs. So if you haven't minted,
go out, take a chance. It's a lot of fun. And there's, there's hidden surprises around every
corner. Sasha, last question. Stupid one too. there any collector benefit uh to holding the packs
and not breaking any of them as you see fit in your mind um collector benefit I would say no
this is more of a personal preference so you know it's it's 2025 uh I remember I believe it was
1990 1999 the Pokemon cards first came out.
I remember my dad actually went to China, brought us back a Game Boy game,
and we were all fighting over who got Tetris, who got Yoshi.
And then my older brother got last pick, and he got this Chinese game,
and we're like, aha, you suck.
It turned out it was Pokemon, and obviously we had fights about
who gets to play that for the next three years.
But the packs themselves, we still see people having viewing parties on YouTube of those
original packs, right?
The cool thing here is you don't have to worry about keeping it in a drawer, in a safe, in
a hermetically sealed vault to make sure that the air pressure doesn't alter the chemistry
of the card.
They're digital, right?
If you keep it in your wallet and you want to open it tomorrow, well, you can't open it tomorrow. If you want to open it on the 5th, you can. If you want to open
on the 10th, you can. If you want to keep that until 2035 so you can show your kids, hey, I've
got one of these OG Klanosaurus packs, you can also do that. From a collector standpoint,
Cab, correct me if I'm wrong, we probably won't have an achievement there. Maybe down the line,
we introduce it. But we most likely will have an achievement for people who collect all nine escape cards.
Yeah, we're planning achievements for all nine escape cards,
and we're planning a slew of other achievements that we haven't revealed
that are tied to the minting process,
and we'll tell the story of your adventure minting these things.
It's a whole piece or a piece of the puzzle
with the achievement system.
It's meant to preserve memories
and tell the story of you as a fan
interacting with the Klaino's ecosystem.
And over time, you've got compounding returns, right?
So food for thought there, but yes.
Rare responses, Rare responses.
Doonies, over to you guys.
GM, GM.
Hey, GM, Andrew.
Thanks for having us up.
What are your thoughts?
How has your experience been
as one of the collections on Sui as well?
I think Andrew, I think Andrew and Nick
bought some of your collection
pretty recently too, right?
Everyone on the team. Yeah, yeah.
I've never seen a couple tweets about it. Andrew was absolutely getting
raided. Absolutely raided.
Yeah, I've
loved it, man. I'm just
so happy they're here as a peer
in the space. It's really
exciting to have them here. I definitely look up
to Andrew and the team
as far as what they're doing in direction and execution. It's really cool to see. I love the fact that they chose SWE.
I would love to know the underpinnings or the backstory to that at all. I never really got
a chance to ask them when we met up offline a couple of weeks ago, but just ultimately it's
so good to have them here and to bring IP at this
degree, this pedigree to the chain.
So I'm just absolutely stoked.
Everybody in our community has been pumped about Popkins.
Everyone's been buying and minting.
So we're huge fans of theirs and I know they're fans of us as well.
So I'm just stoked.
Appreciate you guys.
Andrew, you want to tell the story of why suey
why suey yeah uh so we have a six-sided dice we wrote
like you know on all the spiels that are going on over here and there like the whole idea of
what we're doing is is like building out this big sort of collectible layer that we think should be
digital translating that into a bigger franchise and brand like we know so well to do
on the entertainment side. And so all of our tech decisions, I'm just going to bulk it as tech
rather than say Web3 for a second, have been to the end of creating these really great fan
experiences and fan relationships. And, you know, NFTs were a natural choice for that back in 2022.
fan relationships and, you know, NFTs were a natural choice for that back in 2022.
And now as we continue thinking about like, well, what does the future hold?
We, you know, continue to look at like the tech, like what else is possible?
What else is possible?
That's an ongoing thing that I think every company is doing.
Like every good company is looking at the opportunity sets in front of them, whether
or not you decide to pursue them.
So we'd had many conversations, the number of different blockchains about potentially
partnering on things, doing new collections, expansion, different flavors.
And when we met with the Sui folks late last year, they sort of blew our mind a little bit in terms of the team being so strong and also so forward thinking.
Like, you know, we had like a very sort of ad hoc meeting that was sort of last minute because we happened to be in town where it's like, okay, let's, let's, let's meet up.
And they just pulled out things like, oh, have you guys seen this? Like, holy, like
things that we didn't expect out of the box of, you know, tech that we hadn't seen and
even things that aren't out yet still, I think. So that was super exciting. And then we went down
the Suey rabbit hole, did a lot of due diligence on the tech side,
you know, met more and more of the founders and other folks involved in the ecosystem.
And, you know, every single thing that we started to go through was ever more impressive.
On the tech side, you know, one of the big questions here is the one that we all know in Web3 and blockchain is like, how do you make these things scalable, like transactions per second, reliable transaction fulfillment
and reliable transaction costs.
And so like the object-based programming of Move
was a big part in like doing parallel processing.
No bottlenecking when it comes to transactions.
That was important to us.
We wanna test that out.
Similarly, there's great security benefits,
but just for a scalable product that could fit retail you're not competing with other blockchains right
like that's where our mind's at you are competing with other entertainment products so i used
counter-strike as an example before but whether it's counter-strike or fortnite or roblox or any
of these digital worlds like that's or if it's streaming if it's netflix if it's disney plus
like it's got to be reliable um to the user who doesn't really care about the tech on average or more than on average 95
people if not more will not care about the tech and so um we thought that suey had a lot of promise
in that sense and aside from that i mean probably consequentially as well because you know we thought
the tech was really really forward moving um and we thought there was a lot of promise in it.
The team was also stellar.
But as a consequence of that, it also looks like Sui seems to be one of these chains that has space to move.
It's a little bit younger than Solana and obviously younger than Ethereum.
And so as a consequence, there's a lot of space we thought to build out the NFT ecosystem,
to come in and find more and more fans and find more and more Web3 native people
as we go on that journey to bringing, you know,
the retail folks into this universe.
And lo and behold, I think just in the first,
we're at like 20, not even 25 hours now, 26 hours,
something like that since we launched.
And I think last time I spoke to Jacques,
we had like 23 000 21 000 new users
that's not new wallets that's new you that's unique users um buying uh booster packs so unique
users buying booster packs like 20 000 plus more that's a lot um and so you know i would say thesis
proven there as well so you know that was the that was the, that was the idea, you know, just to keep expanding, making the tech more and more, you know, reliable and sort of bringing this stuff to a consumer facing audience as fast as we can.
Yeah, I like.
Yeah.
Go Junius.
I was going to say, you know, shout out to Denny.
He's in the space.
He's such a base founder uh to always be hanging out i figured he would have shown up on your door and started knocking or broke in your house and said uh sweet has to be it
um but uh shout out to denny andrew that was a great story but the six-sided dice is probably
a better one nick yeah he's playing too much dnd when he was a kid um although i know it's 20-sided
um but yeah for me, you guys know me.
I'm the romantic here, but there's a lot of truth with what I'm about to say.
The team at Myst and the team behind SWE really understand and believe wholeheartedly
that experiences are what pull people into any on-chain kind of activations and use cases.
And that it is something that is extremely necessary to abstract the tech layer, which
most consumers don't give a fuck about.
That's the truth.
Like nobody, nobody browses YouTube and cares that it's run under the hood by HTT.
I don't even know what it is.
Jack knows what it is.
Case in point.
But nobody nobody cares.
And and the we were looking for a partner that really understands
that entertainment is is kind of like the golden ticket into this
and that is extremely supportive of the crazy grand ideas that we have.
And we need partners that can kind of like really figure out
what are some experiences that we could be doing together to make it happen.
Thanks, Nick.
Luke, welcome on stage.
Have any questions for the guys?
Any takes?
Any you want to get off your chest um dude i just i don't know i had a couple questions but i felt like they were better for
the discord but now that i'm here i will ask but i will say dude we i mean it's a big collection
to be minting i mean nfts are doing pretty well right now and obviously very renowned project
that's crushing it over like a vast period of time but
like not i don't know if it was when it launched or before that but i mean cab came into his face
and a couple people were trying to clown on him acting like it was ridiculous and a far-fetched
vision and now you've exceeded it by what i don't know over 30 percent it did it for context nick
that happened like two days ago i got got a couple DMs about it.
I was like, yeah, Nick's pretty good at diffusing stuff.
That happened like two days ago.
Yeah, Nick actually messaged me about it too.
Yeah, yeah.
But I get it.
I get it.
Change is a hard pill to swallow in the space.
Comfort is an easier one.
And, dude, it takes crazy to pull this and and a diehard belief in what we're trying
to do and a diehard belief in in in where this space um is is heading towards and and like you
say look like dude the proof is in the pudding it's like those guys are probably quiet today
and they probably bought some well they probably bought some to be honest we're gonna be honest
yeah they're still they're still fighting just because they need you know
They're just like I would have it be now. It's a different reason. That's that's fair. Yeah, yeah
Luke, what were your questions?
So I
So I don't know I feel bad asking this question and taking the time to ask but I'm sure other people are still wondering even if you touched on it
So say I meant yeah, I got my free one from Paris. Thank you. By the way
I'm really glad I figured out that geofenced Wi-Fi thing and got it.
And then I got five other ones.
But at the moment, if no more are minted, which is unlikely, but at the moment, if you ended mint, odds are I would get three out of those five.
I get six out of ten odds or three out of five odds at the moment.
And then if 100, thousand are minted,
only 25,000 are going to be redeemed.
And then one out of four or,
I mean,
then three out of four are going to be refunded.
Waiting for a plop here.
Hey,
sorry.
Was it was dealing with a ticket?
Just to repeat the question there.
So a hundred thousand tickets,
you're running the odds there
well sorry just in general I just wanted to confirm that whatever just 25,000 overall and then you
know that includes what the Claynos got to claim that includes from Paris that includes the Rat
Packs from NYC I believe but anyway 25,000 overall and anything minted above that's refunded and then
you get the points or whatever little sweet bonuses.
But no matter what, it's $25,000.
So if we wanted to mint more and the mint number grows and we wanted to end up with $5,000, we got to base it on that.
Yep, exactly.
So you're 100% right.
So just to run the math live here, we've got 650 of the pizzas that turn into rats, and those go directly to those holders.
So that 25,000 in reality will drop slightly to 24,350.
We had just over 5,000 people select their classes, and all of those are guaranteed packs.
So that 24,350 goes down by 5,000.
There's 19,350 available to everybody.
We have 20 ancients in the collection, so negligible there,
but basically just under $20,000 available for everybody.
And then anything over that gets refunded entirely,
and you're eligible for all the other cool prizes.
Wow, thank you.
Has there ever been a mint like this?
Nope.
I'm sure that there has,
but something fairly similar, right?
But there's going to be a lot of capital
that's put back into people's wallets
and they might not be satisfied
with the number of Popkins they ended up with.
Yeah, so that's the concept.
So I think the closest comparable was,
like over a year ago,
was the SMb barrels um
but that wasn't a mechanism where there's side quests um happening and and you know use case
for the liquidity event that comes with the refunds we wanted to shift two things is like
the whole narrative on collectibles the the fun experiences but also a problem we were seeing with
the fun experiences, but also a problem we were seeing with the secondary markets when a collection
releases, right? Which is you're not sure about the demand curve, you're not sure about all these
things, and there's a lack of liquidity. But if you can prove that X amount of packs have already
been bought, but only like half of those are going to hash the collectibles that you're chasing
and the other half get refunded, then the other half that might have missed out on the
collectibles that they wanted, they can go straight into the secondary market with confidence
that there's like a big demand for them, right?
And that's, I think, where we're trying to really push the envelope.
Luke, any follow-ups?
You're good?
Okay.
Yeah, dude.
I'm stoked.
This is actually dope to see and glad to be part of the eco now.
Make sure you post about your Mint experience on the TL.
Blake, how's that going, by the way?
How much volume is there in terms of people posting their, how much volume is there
in terms of people posting their experiences and like their overall feedback? So far, it's been,
I would say 99.9% successful in terms of just the feedback of the existing experience. And I will,
I'll tell you, like, as Andrew mentioned earlier, our Andrew, you guys haven't seen anything yet.
The pack opening experience is so insane and so fun.
Again, Jack did such an amazing job.
It's all custom built.
It feels good, even though it's digital,
like from a tactical point of view.
And you're just left with this like absolute joy
that is, you know, dials back to your your
days of ripping packs of pokemons if you grew up with that type of shit but um yeah i mean it is
going to be an incredible experience next week keep your sound on sound on yes the the whole
like the whole entire site was sound designed. I mean, like, yeah, we thought about different ways of animating the escape cards differently.
I mean, it's just, it's been, it's accumulation of excellence and perfection from the builders
on our team.
It's going to be so fun.
I know I coined this last week, but giving off major, major tryhard energy.
And Andrew, just to answer your previous question there,
you were asking, you know, this is pretty cool.
This is a lot of moving pieces.
Has anything ever been done like this?
I think Cab, you know, mentioned,
I think the closest thing is SMB Gen 3,
but we don't have the gamification on the losing.
This is just the mint mechanism, right?
To Blake's point here, then there's the actual reveal.
There's the pack opening. Like, this is not a, you know, tick a box. Okay. Someone else did a hundred, we're going to
do 101 and now, okay, well, we're technically higher. This is an entire redesign of everything
we think of when we think of minting. No whitelist, no, you know, no fees. We cover everything.
Complete raffle, giving back to the community so that they can participate.
Bringing in people from SWE, from ETH, from Bitcoin.
Obviously, everybody on Solana.
Then the Mint experience itself.
We've always been about the booster packs, whether IRL or online.
It's just everything's new and different.
So if you're feeling overwhelmed, you know, it's probably normal.
Go check out some of the threads on the main Klaino page.
We've been releasing those all last week.
But again, this is going to be so much fun.
There you have it.
We've been up for about an hour and 10 minutes.
If anybody in the audience has some questions, feel free to come up.
We'll give you guys a couple of minutes because there is a delayed time for me saying this now.
I don't want the audience here.
I think it's like 30 seconds, 20 seconds.
Delay up here, whatever it is.
And then we will conclude this while we wait for some people to have any questions.
Andrew, new fellow co-host.
What are your final thoughts on this to conclude?
I'm a co-host. I feel so so powerful now i've worked so hard for this no um i'm i'm literally out of my mind exhausted i don't think anyone's slept at all on our team
in the last 48 hours so bear with me but no it's been super exciting i mean we're honestly like
you know i i said something about earlier on the spaces, like, you know, scaling and brand and fandom.
But I think it's actually very, very special to really see that how strong our community is, how strong like communities on Sui.
Obviously, our internal team, I always use this notion of Navy SEALs.
And I know that to be more true than ever today of all days.
Jacques not on the space right now because I don't think that man has slept or showered in like three weeks
um so for those of you who don't know who jacques that's nipam that is he's like the absolute legend
that's carried a lot of this on his back um for many many weeks and he's still doing that as we're
up here celebrating so um kudos to him in particular.
And yeah, I think I was preaching also last week,
like this is going to be an experience
that is something you could share with family,
with friends, people who might not be part of Web3
or might be Web3 curious or might be Web3 skeptical.
I mean, I really encourage people to pick up a booster pack
and at least open a few of them with people around you
that might be a little bit, you know, Web3 curious or skeptical just to show them what the future beholds?
Because we're getting there, we're getting there quickly.
And Metaversal mentioned it earlier.
You know, it might seem crazy to say that all these guys are going to compete with Pixar or Netflix or these big names.
And I do admit that it is crazy.
But we move at a pace that is,
that is quite fast.
So it is possible ever more possible every day.
So I think that we're at the beginning of something big here and,
and pack opening next week will be a big step in that direction.
So really,
really,
really excited to,
to get that going and,
and have,
you know,
crack open some packs because we've seen them and everyone's excited to see what they get.
Very underrated to you, Andrew.
You guys move at a pretty fast pace.
The team is still pretty lean, which is awesome.
And you guys did not raise a ton of money to begin with.
So you guys are absolutely doing a lot more with a lot less.
People sometimes equate raising capital to execution.
Founders get lazy, founders get fat.
That's not usually the case.
With you guys obviously raising less money,
doing more with it, truly outstanding stuff
in literal real time.
FTO, you got the last question of the hour in 16 minutes.
What's going on, man?
Hey, how you guys doing?
I appreciate you bringing me up, Andrew.
I can tell that you guys move at a really fast pace, and it really seems to pay off in term.
And I really appreciate what you guys are doing for the ecosystem in general. It's been awesome to see this kind of new wave come into light and everything that's going on within the unleash of the Popkins.
So it's been great participating, and I'm really excited to see
kind of what comes from it. But I guess a question I wanted to pose, it might be very basic, it might
already have been answered, but I came through a little late. I just wanted to ask in terms of
distribution, were you guys looking to have very random distribution amounts as where one wallet could have a very high
amount of Popkins and another wallet could be, you know, completely excluded from having
one?
Or are you guys kind of referencing it in a way to distribute it fairly so that everyone
has a pretty good opportunity at being an individual or unique holder?
So I can take that one. So I think the word fairly there is kind of in the eye of the beholder.
If I'm someone who bought, you know, a thousand packs and I get a first pack and now my odds are
being reduced, you know, I might look at that as an unfair event. So in this case, we're treating
every single ticket 100% equally, doesn't matter on the wallet.
And this entire randomization process actually takes place on chain. So it is verifiable to make sure that obviously everything's above board.
But we really want to make sure that every ticket, every person has an equal chance of winning.
And the nice thing is with that complete reimbursement is whether you bought one ticket, two ticket, 10,000 tickets.
By the time the reveal happens,
you should have all of your USDC back in your account.
So if you do want to participate and buy on secondary,
if you didn't get as many as you wanted,
you have that ability to do so.
Thank you. That definitely answered my question.
I really appreciate, once again, what you guys are doing.
And it's really nice to see everything that's kind of coming to light with this and you guys really work
hard and it's nice to see how passionate
the whole team is as if
this was theirs as well, which it is.
So good luck to everything you guys are doing.
Thanks, FTO. Trevor,
I swear to God, this is the last question.
You're the last one. You tried coming
up earlier. That was on us. Couldn't bring you
up, but man, you're here now now over to you before we wrap this up GM GM congrats you guys you guys are
killing it um I'm a huge fan of Klanosaurs and one of the biggest things I like is the game that you
guys are building so I was wondering how the Popkins are gonna play into the game um just
from like an outside perspective,
to me they look like they might be
some kind of companion for the Klanosaurs in-game,
or maybe Klanosaurs are the trainers
and the Popkins are Pokemon in a way.
So I'm just wondering if it's not too big of a leak,
if maybe we could get a little bit more
on how they tie into the game,
if they do tie into the game.
I can answer.
So they are built to port quite easily.
Unlike the original Klainos, this time around, the models have been optimized to be ready
for that event.
They will not be part of the game on the release of the game.
We got to make sure that game's good.
Got to make sure the bugs are fixed and we give it enough space in the beta version to to you know to learn
from it um eventually they can get patched in and when and if they do I think it would start off as
a um semi-cosmetic play so um if you guys remember like in World of Warcraft like the companion type
uh pets that you could kind of like collect the ones, like a parrot or a spider or whatever, and they would follow you around.
So it's a little bit like that.
And if the balancing makes sense, they could have some sort of amplifier or buff or whatever.
But don't hold me to it.
Those are the things we're thinking about for the mobile game.
Awesome.
Thanks, Trev.
Follows, last words, final thoughts from the guys up here on the team, and then we'll wrap
this up.
Let me go first, because I'm going to be the shortest on this one.
I just want to, again, give a huge shout out to the community, to the team.
Everything has been flawless in terms of execution of this. And next week is
going to be such a huge week for us. Please share your pack openings. Show us what Popkins you got.
We're going to be doing so much fun, cool content next week. And we'd love for everybody to join in
on that.
Plop, Nick. plop nick i figured cabra andrew would go go next but i knew it i knew it i knew sasha was waiting he's
like nick's gonna go first yeah um yeah man i i am so beyond um proud of of the entire team.
I know that a lot of times it's like you guys are not necessarily,
you know, you guys, the original collectors, the holders,
you don't have full visibility of what goes on.
It's an engine.
It's a fever dream.
It is nonstop.
Andrew Forte has actually been at the office,
so he's seen it.
IRL and sometimes we're just like so fucking busy
it's not easy to build in the space
we are so thankful
that you guys are giving us that chance
to prove
that we can do what we set out
to do
and that you are trusting us
to pull it off
and honestly
we're so beyond bullish on where Klaino's goes. And so
stay tuned. Stay tuned to find out more about the Popkins. Stay tuned to find out some huge news on
the Klaino side of things or the Klainoverse at large. Those things are coming up real soon. And
man, I'm stoked. If I don't sound it, it's because we haven't slept, but,
but I'm, I'm pumped, man. Absolutely love it. Again, if you're looking for more information,
go to the main cleaners or his account, check the pin threads, check the discord announcements,
open up a ticket, tag myself in there. Be happy to walk you through this, this process, but
thank you everybody for tuning in and let's, in. And let's unleash some Popkins. On that note, unleash some Popkins.
Let me say one parting thing. There is a notion, because you said everyone was saying their piece.
Let me say my piece. There was a notion, I think, that is very prevalent in Web3. It's taught in
business school. I was taught this way as well, that like it's PVP.
A negotiation has to have a winner and a loser.
A business transaction has a winner and a loser.
We know that in Web3, it's often this PVP environment.
I've built and invested in businesses for decades.
And that notion is completely false.
You can have many people participate in one thing
and grow together and all win together.
And this is the space that we're in,
entertainment, web three,
and the confluence of those things
is so absolutely ripe for that,
that it is like, this is just one step forward
in the way business should be done in the future
and the way entertainment will be built in the future and the way brands should be done in the future and the way entertainment
will be built in the future and the way brands will be built in the future.
Klanosaurs and everything we're doing is a big step in that direction.
So I'm very thankful for everyone that participated on our team that's worked really hard, but
even more so in our community and the people who show up who don't necessarily have to
show up because their boss told them, not that I have to do that. But it is an absolute wonderful thing to see.
I have never been more of a believer in what I just said.
So, you know, we're all in this together.
And truly, truly blessed to have such a great community around us.
That's been strong for many years and growing in real time.
Very well said.
Once again, Mint is still alive.
Unleash the Popkins.
We'll see you guys next week and enjoy the weekend.
Thank you, everybody.
Later. Thank you.
