‘Power of Native Assets’ with Avaunt from ShardSpace

Recorded: Feb. 7, 2024 Duration: 0:51:40

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Hey, Lucas, I talked like five minutes already and just saw that I'm muted.
I'm sure it was a beautiful monologue as well.
Yeah, I thought by somebody responding, but I'm doing well, thanks, I'm doing well.
Thank you so much for joining the same.
I need to repeat it again.
I'm the co-host, Lucas, co-founder of Osyswap.
The first thing that came into my mind when I thought about you and your product with Shardspace is the power of native assets.
Because you can actually leverage the full stack of Radix, you can put all your end-of-tokens NFTs in a single basket and put everything from A to B in a single transaction.
And I think this is also a really powerful showcase of what's actually possible for our tech.
Yeah, I guess we can sort of dig into it a bit deeper, but one of the really big selling points for me and features that is possibly still not fully realized or understood is that how much closer to the typical or current Web2-type user experience
that the Radix technology allows people and developers to get to.
Crypto is very much a technology-first type development or innovation.
The very early sort of paper wallets and seed phrases and all this kind of stuff is all based off this crypto stuff.
We can sign electronic transactions in a distributed manner and there's no middlemen, but it was always done with a technology-first type approach and it wasn't done with user experience or the UI as the starting point or through that lens.
And I think the Radix is the way they've approached it is really starting from that UI UX experience, still keeping all the same primitives around cryptography and permissionlessness and decentralization and all that stuff, but doing so with the user experience as the core focus to start from.
Adding multiple assets into a shopping cart is very much what people may be familiar with in the Web2 world with Amazon and other products and why shouldn't that be any different for crypto?
It actually seems so simple and so straightforward, but if you're thinking about trying to do the same on the EVM, for instance, would it even be possible?
Like a shopping cart type of product? I don't think so. It would be that easy, right?
So it would need to assign transactions for each token for their own, basically, right? So it wouldn't be even possible to assign one transaction for all things in one go.
Yeah, possibly not. And then, you know, maybe if you did, you would have to approve like, you know, you do the token approvals or spend approvals.
You'd have to do multiple spend approvals and then do multiple transaction approvals. Yeah, but no, exactly.
It's, you know, and like many people have used it, you can clearly see what's going on with the transaction. You can see what assets are going in and coming out.
And it's a lot smoother.
Yeah. So let's go back one step again. So I think all people don't know you to introduce yourself also with shard space.
So you actually got involved in the Redex ecosystem.
Yes, certainly. So, yeah, I've onto Andrew is my the normal name.
I am a one of the original node runners on the Redex network. I'll come back to that in a bit minute and also say that the founder of shard space.
But prior to that, I've been working predominantly in the banking and finance industry. So over the last 20 plus years come from a technical like infrastructure project management type background.
So delivering infrastructure systems within banking, finance and other industries.
And having worked in banking and finance, I know how hugely kind of inefficient.
You know, the banking systems can be with payments, how a lot of how much how many people are involved in, you know, just doing some basic transactions of sending value across between banks and, you know, and other entities.
And then I discovered or sort of had the time to sort of really dig into the sort of Bitcoin around. So 2015 2016 and immediately saw the kind of writing on the wall as such for payments and traditional banking when you could send value across the world in the matter of minutes without any intermediaries.
I thought, wow, this is really going to shake up the, you know, the sort of traditional finance industries. And at the same time, I think Ethereum got launched as well.
So quickly sort of, you know, did all this sort of research and, you know, read up in Bitcoin and then dug into the sort of the Ethereum and smart contract world.
And again, mine was blown with the potential of this area and then, you know, had a look at that and then also looked at, you know, some of the other products that were launched around that time.
There was Dash and there was Litecoin and other tokens and really started to dig into, you know, all the different problems and use cases that all these projects were proposing to solve.
And then, you know, kind of fast forward a bit to 2020 and by having coming from a sort of infrastructure background, I really, you know, in the love of technology and seeing that, you know, it's going to be the future.
I thought, you know what, this is, I really love to get involved in a bit more of running the infrastructure, have a sort of the passive income side of things.
So I started digging into, started digging into running infrastructure, validator nodes, et cetera.
And then, and then I stumbled across an article about Radix was starting to, you know, starting out there, was at Olympia, Betonet at the time.
So I was lucky enough to join that Betonet program and, yeah, and then that kind of snowballed into running a validator node, getting involved in providing feedback and testing, et cetera.
I span up a very early sort of, almost like a prototype for Shardspace with a thing called Radix Dashboard.
So the original Radix Dashboard, which was basically a bit of a validator dashboard, gave you sort of the basic information and data around the network on Olympia Network.
And then I didn't really have any, it certainly didn't start my journey to get, I found Shardspace and build Shardspace, but, you know, I'm really glad and happy that I did.
And I just, you know, blown away with the ease at which you can develop a product on Radix Network and Shardspace is, you know, kind of the, you know, it's a product that I'm, that I'm really hoping to shake out.
You know, that's kind of at a high level, my journey.
Super interesting. Thank you for the introduction.
I also had the pleasure to meet you in person in Lisbon, and the website, you can remember that.
Yeah, I think you were even responsible for the picture with CZ at the time.
Yes, that's right. The opponents were brought up to the Radix stand, weren't they?
It was right across the Radix booth.
Yeah, it was. It was very good. Yeah.
Somehow CZ was, was showing up, and we took the opportunity.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that was great. That's, that's probably collectors are now considering, so yeah.
Yeah. But also CZ over a crypto market.
So you are also, like me, very, very responsive, very active in X.
Getting into a lot of conversations, also bringing Radix into the conversation.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's the community. And, you know, I guess when I get my sort of, I dig into something.
And if it's something that really interests me, I get, I get, I kind of go in, you know, full steam and really put a lot of effort into it.
And knowing what the technology is capable with and what's behind and how much, how kind of game changing that the technology is.
I've really kind of immersed myself into the technology and building shared space and the community.
And the community is fantastic. People like yourselves and, you know, all the, the node runners.
Everyone's, you know, it's got the sort of part to play within the community. And it's a fan. It is a fantastic community.
And it's, I can't wait to see how, you know, this year and the rest of the future of Radix, et cetera, grows from here.
So yeah, really privileged to be part of, part of the Radix ecosystem.
You know, also close to that a question around your general crypto sentiment, crypto market sentiment at the moment.
Maybe it is also kind of close together that we are so supportive to, to Radix also to show maybe a better path.
Yeah, I think, yeah, it's, crypto is very, it's very volatile, obviously. And there's a lot of, a lot of people have, I guess, expectations of things moving and moving in a direct, certain direction and moving to a, I guess, a predetermined timeframe that they see or should believe it should be moving.
And, you know, it doesn't always work out like that. It doesn't, crypto doesn't follow, you know, sort of set kind of formula as such.
And there's, there's certainly a lot of different players within the market, institutions are coming in now, the regulators, government, you know, governments, et cetera.
There's a lot of, from maybe five years ago, there's a lot of different actors within the, within crypto as a whole and have different motivations.
And I think, you know, when you think about the kind of the activities, maybe the degenerate activities and sort of those kind of experiences that people maybe had two or three or even the last bull run.
Maybe not as going to be as prevalent in the future, possibly. There is certainly, you know, potential for that on the fringes, but within, certainly within the, like the kind of core ecosystem, the core products, the core protocols.
There's a lot, a lot of, a lot more actors with different motivations that can affect how things play out.
And, you know, in that sense, I think having a core, strong core product and foundation to build from is, is going to be critical to a project success.
So, you know, not, not sort of kind of throwing shade on any sort of project, but if you have just, if you have a copy of, you know, a copy of say the EVM and you're not really innovating beyond what the EVM does, is that really going to be any more successful?
You've got to really change, change the game and have a really solid foundation to be able to make it, I think in, you know, in the future now.
And there's, there's a lot less sort of the speculation and gambling that maybe there was previously.
Yeah, I would just be curious about your point of view by still, although we see the need for, let's say, better solutions.
How is it possible that, let's say the sort of, of Radix or MultiverseX or whatever project that you try to reach to innovate can be such another radar for so long time.
With Radix specifically or?
Yeah, in general, I would say in general, maybe Sui is, okay, it's also VC driven, but that's also some, some more innovative approach.
But in general, you can see this, these narratives, I'm pushing around, but usually people are pushing narratives that don't really make sense, much sense or not really innovating a lot on top of what we already see with with Solana and so on.
Yeah, no, there is, there is a lot of the momentum within crypto is narratives. And you're right that there's a, when there's a lot of VC money at stake and investment, then the narratives, you know, kind of try to favor those, those positions or those investments.
Now, whether that narrative, say, is just a short term game, that, you know, that's, it's majority of the time, you kind of see that.
But I, regardless of sort of the short term narratives and whatever the next, I mean, at the moment, example, the chain abstraction seems to be the next big narrative that's coming out.
But that doesn't, you know, which chain abstraction is talking about how many multiple chains can interrupt seamlessly or semi seamlessly across different networks.
Now, that is a, you know, as a narrative, I personally think it's the wrong approach. I think it's just a case of time and it will sort of, you know, either fade away or it won't really come to realization.
But the key thing is that you've got to have a solid foundation. Your tech stack has got to be solid. It's got to be, you know, so kind of bulletproof and it's got to have the user experience at the forefront.
And I think a lot of these narratives don't, they think from, you know, a technology for, again, they still think from a technology first implementation rather than a user experience.
And, you know, it's only, in my view, only a matter of time before a lot of these narratives kind of don't, you know, don't fulfill.
But yeah, it is frustrating. I think the projects that do have a solid foundation, you know, they're doing it the right way and maybe not doing it the quick and easy sort of way is the right approach.
So just continue with an example about the current narratives. It's also ESC 404, right? So we're also involved with that. That's also kind of interesting, right?
So there's some big narratives about teachers that are coming now for the EDM, like ESC 404. And then we have, you know, we have this script challenge, right?
Yeah, so that was quite interesting. So yeah, so I don't know if many of you listeners will know who Bitlord is, but he's a fairly influential or well-known crypto influencer.
He's starting to get into the world of building products and projects and whatnot.
So he responded to a tweet of mine, which kind of, you know, put the cat amongst the pigeons.
And the long and short of it is that, yeah, ESC 404 is a hybrid. It's a meshing of the ERC 20 and ERC 721 NFT standards.
So there's this idea of combining two token standards into effectively one idea, which, you know, everyone within Radix agrees can be done quite easily and sort of fairly a lot more easily with Scripto.
But yeah, so Austin, you know, basically off the back of that, Austin and I had a call with Bitlord about an hour ago.
And yeah, we're proposing to Austin's going to sort of build a prototype, effectively build the 404 standard using the Scripto, you know, syntax or methods.
Yeah, and it may not amount to anything, but there's an opportunity to demo what that 404 standard would look like with Scripto.
We look forward to that. So it's like the next big narrative that's around Scripto, we could easily maybe replicate it in like two days or three days.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, exactly. And it's, you know, it's Austin is just kind of going to manage it in his own spare time, kind of, so to speak.
And he's not a, you know, there's not a massive team of developers behind him. It's amazing that, you know, something like the 404, which no doubt had had a team of developers and taken several weeks can can be done by one person within, you know, a matter of days, effectively.
So yeah, shout out to Austin and Dean, of course. Yeah, yeah, guys.
Maybe go back to your own project called Chart Space.
This kind of came as a surprise, at least for me. So like after Babylon wasn't really much, at least in my, for me, it was not really much talked about, but then it just arrived and it was great.
And so people were asking, is this really possible with just one dev? Is it just you who built this?
No, so I'm the founder. A lot of the, a lot of the, a lot of the ideas and the concepts and, you know, say, sort of taking what I, you know, know from sort of the banking and finance industry over the last 20 years, I've put into sort of the ideas of Chart Space.
I wouldn't call myself a developer, per se. I have some kind of skills and experience, but not to, not to the level. I certainly couldn't develop it as quick as it has been done by myself, but now there is a team.
So effectively got some three developers or two full-time, effectively full-time and a part-time developer in the team.
And yeah, I mean, all of what you see on Chart Space is all effectively front-end development. So there's no smart contracts at all.
What we do, though, is obviously leverage the transaction manifest to, and some of the Radix tools to communicate with components and other smart contracts on the network.
And that's, you know, again, one of the beauties with the Radix technology. It allows any sort of front-end developer to build a, a dapper like Chart Space without any smart contract knowledge or experience.
Yeah. So that's, that's us.
Well, but still, still I managed to launch it like a few days after Babylon, a few people near a team. It's like, it just shows, right? But what's, what's possible in a short amount of time and a little bit of dedication.
And also regarding your products, there was some questions about, so you already integrated AlphaDEX, right? Are there plans to integrate even more audiobooks, textbooks and stuff, or do you want to partner up with more projects in that regard as well?
Yes. Yes. AlphaDEX is the, it's, AlphaDEX provides what's called a club, so central limit audiobook. So they provide a similar experience to what you might find with a centralized exchange, exchange like Binance or Bitfinex, et cetera.
So you can place orders within an order book above or below the market price. So AlphaDEX creates the backend components and smart contracts that manage that, manage the ordering and then the trading between token pairs.
And allows, they have an STK and API and allows anyone to build a front end like we have on Shardspace to connect to the backend exchange. And we were the first and obviously Dexter, as well as launched a week or so ago.
And, but, you know, there could be any number of front end Dexes like Shardspace or Dexter that connect to AlphaDEX.
And that's going well. It's, you know, we've spent a lot of time and effort developing that. And that's, that's, that's going really well. We've also partnered with Astralizent.
So the Astralizent are an aggregator. So it's similar to what you might experience with one inch and they provide sort of execution, market order, sort of AMM type execution, finding the best price with exchanges like ACSwap, Caviar, DeFi Plaza, et cetera.
So, yeah, we partnered with Astralizent. We've also started integrating with XID domains. So we've, we've got a sort of test implementation of allowing. So when you see your accounts or you're searching in accounts or you have your address book on Shardspace, you will be able to see the associated XID domain display there.
So for example, if you wanted to search Lucas.XRD, you could, it would pop up on Shardspace.
They're also with future plans with XID domain. So they're looking to onboard a number of kind of like resellers of, of domains. So the features where you see auctions and a bidding for XID domain names will be something that we introduce on Shardspace as well.
That's probably some time away once, once mainnet is up and running and embedded in. We've also partnered with Switch Year. Switch Year is a, allows you to buy XID directly using accounts or credit cards, et cetera.
And yeah, and then that's, that's kind of it for the integrations at the moment. Well, we do also, and this is again, that's sort of one of the powers of the Radix stack. We've, we've integrated with Weft and Caviar for leveraging some of the functions and features that they provide.
So you're able to lend XID or USDC directly on, lended on Weft, but directly from Shardspace.
And also if you've got your LSUs, you can take those LSUs, send them to Weft, sorry, send them to Caviar, get your LSU LPs back from Caviar and then, and then send those to Weft as well.
So there's lots of, yeah, there's lots of integrations that we're building out with other components and projects within the Radix.
Yeah. I hope we also come back into the conversation with our upcoming milestones, concentrated pools, oracles, hooks and stuff like that.
Yeah. So we have a lot of stuff to deliver. So I guess we'll also come into the conversation again. So we will look forward to it.
Yeah, definitely. We've already, we've already started actually building our ecosystem, what's called our ecosystem pages. This is where we will start to integrate with ACSwap and start to, for example, allow a user, if they have liquidity in one of the ACSwap pools, will be able to add, a user will be able to add liquidity directly to whichever pool on ACSwap, directly from Shardspace as well.
So that's kind of some of the integrations that we'd like to build out. So yeah, any sort of some of the core features that you offer on Shardspace, you know, we're obviously hoping to allow users to interface and integrate with ACSwap as well.
Yeah. So we have to deliver first, afterwards.
Yeah, but yeah, we just started also to test it on StokeNet this week. So it's really getting close now. So yeah.
Yeah, I've been, I've been following, following you guys.
Yeah, flow and team is like just working at the moment, like four weeks now, heads down building. I'm the only one out there currently.
Yeah, I'm super excited to see, you know, when Hooks, the concentrated liquidity and everything gets launched, that'll be amazing. So yeah, it's going to be...
A lot of things ship in one, one go. So yeah, we'll be crazy. We'll be looking forward. Yeah, but back to your, to your offerings. So I used also myself, I really like this shopping cart experience, let's say it like that.
So I have a lot of tokens, some, some NFTs as well. And just like, put, put everything into a cart, select all the tokens, NFTs. I don't maybe want any more.
I can put everything in one cart and bam, throw it away to, to a burner wallet or something. I use it myself. It's just super, super neat.
And it's just a single transaction, one signing, bam. So there's like, yeah, I really like this, that you already shipped something like that is super useful.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's probably one of the main features I use as well is either the quick move or the shopping cart. And yeah, it's sort of like a, kind of like a housekeeping type experience when you do have a lot of tokens and other stuff.
And you just want to kind of have a clean, clean account. You just, yeah, drop everything in the shopping cart and then, you know, submit it then or submit it later.
Yeah. Yeah. I do like, personally, I do like that feature as well. Big time saver.
Such a great showcase for the transaction manifest, right? So you have like this on your desktop, you can see your shopping cart and on your phone you can show or it can see every single token you put in your basket.
Again, if everything is like expected, right? So it's like also super neat showcase for that. So on a future one, if you want to show someone the power of the threat manifest, I will always use a short space for that because it's like, oh, yeah, the best way to show it is actually.
Yeah. Yeah. No, thank you. Yeah, we're very happy with that. So yeah.
So if anyone has any feedback or ideas in that regard, then yeah, please obviously share them as well. Always trying to innovate.
To all people listening, please reply to this space. So we'll also cover your questions later on. But we go back to the already asked questions.
So this is related to the Radix lecture. Let's just see back in history. Are there plans to and is it even possible to get a historical snapshot of the wallet portfolio?
Yeah, that's certainly certainly on the on the list of the backlog of things we'd like to deliver.
I guess one of the challenges that we moved from Olympia to Babylon has been that Olympia was fairly compared to Olympia was fairly basic as far as the ledger and the functionality and the capability.
So it was a lot easier to just say, hey, what was the token balance from this day to that day and pull the report. But now we've come with Babylon. There's a lot more.
It's a lot more complex in a good way, but it also means generating reports and you can effectively find out the balance in history going back to within a sort of five minute range.
So it's a it's a lot more complex. It takes a lot more sort of effort to develop and build out the queries and interface with the back end gateway infrastructure, etc.
So we have that we have the back end there. It's just a case of now kind of building all those those queries and, you know, doing those sort of test cases or use cases where user X wants to get the how many tokens did they have from or how many transactions did they have from this date to that date.
So it can be quite a complex sort of development path to get to get that data compared to say, compared to Olympia. But yes, it is something that we'd like to deliver. It's probably not the top of the priority list, but it is. It is on the backlog.
Just continue with the next proposal. People asking for us and which wallet is that token? You can see the totals, but it would be nice if it gives the wallets it is in. Try to understand this question.
Yeah, I think I think I think I think I know exactly what that means. So you have
I think it's the all accounts panel when you click on within child space, you click on the all accounts and then you have a number of tokens in the table and then it would be good to show. I think this is what it's saying.
We're good to show which wallet those those tokens are in or which account those those tokens are in from the all accounts panel. That's something that I've noticed as well. And I'd like to add that at a later date as well. So if that's not if that's not the feature, then please reach out directly.
And one more proposal. I wish at the chat space also to create something like a p y vision where you can check in permanent permanent loss and something like that. Yeah, sure. So this is again. So we've got the ecosystem page is very basic at the moment. That's actually where the core the team is mostly focused on developing at the moment. So kind of going back and forth.
What you see with our integration with weft is just sort of touching is scratching the surface of the the the integration or the aggregation of dApps and services within the radix. So the ecosystem page will effectively allow users to visit various dApps from child space. And then you'll see, say, for example, if you have a position and weft, you'll be out to
And I'll remove liquidity from, say, the their XRD or USDC pool. It will show the APY other information. Again, if you have assets within an AC swap pool, you'll be out to add and remove liquidity and see your specific position within that pool and an APY, et cetera. So that's where we're kind of focusing.
Effort at the moment. That's probably a few weeks away. Yeah, before we sort of share anything. Yeah.
Happy mentioned or miss some some possibly future future for for a short space or yeah. So everything.
Yeah. So I think, yes. So the kind of two areas that we're still to probably develop as the explorer in the ecosystem. So the explorer should will include things like a resource explorer. You'll be out to search up on XRD and find out who's got the top accounts are what the distributions of charts and analytics around certain token assets.
We already do like NFT. So you can see how many taken how many holders hold a specific collection and then sort of really both for the user, but also for other accounts on the on the network showing how you know how many users that they have integrated with a DAP or how many users have
added liquidity to a an AC swap pool or a caveat pool or whatever. So a lot more sort of in depth kind of data and information around the resources as mentioned interfacing integrating with other DAPs allowing
users to potentially build out transaction manifest as well. So if you want to take your assets from weft and you want to move them to another DAP and then you want to take that from another DAP allowing user to sort of build up transaction manifest is that's probably a bit further down the roadmap. So there's a lot of ideas and
and and thoughts around how we can kind of really fully leveraged the transaction manifest in the other Radix tools. So yes, there's a lot to come.
Great. So I personally really looking forward to the layer zero integration that I think that's also the main topic that the CCL is discussing this week. Yeah.
What are your, so in a general product Radix sense, what are you most looking forward to?
I think yeah, the layer zero integration is going to be amazing. Obviously a bit scant on details, but if you can users can bridge assets permissionlessly without KYC, etc. That's going to really open up a
whole new community of users into Radix ecosystem and have to bridge more liquidity. What else is there? There's so the XRD domains is going to be amazing, obviously that when they get launches when looking forward to seeing more photon building and delivering. I've seen some of this sort of early prototype
So that looks absolutely amazing. And then with the announcement of the latest developer grants and booster grants and incentives, there's potentially hopefully going to be a lot more new projects into the space as well. So teams we haven't seen before and the solo devs have got some great ideas or
fully funded and experienced teams have got a cracking idea that like to build on Radix. So yeah, there's this same whichever way you look, there's always something to excite. So yeah, looking forward to it.
Yeah, especially Redlock is like heavily requested also with our pools. People are even looking for a Dan lock at the moment, right? So it's sending tokens to them.
It's sort of looking, it's still missing.
Yeah, look, I think, you know, it's a fairly token locking and custody or escrow of tokens is quite a very important and responsible thing. So they need to do it right, they need to do it, make sure that's fully secure.
And, and, you know, if it means, you know, double checking, triple checking and auditing and getting it right, you don't want to have an instance where someone blocks tokens and, you know, it's hacked or lost or, you know, it's it's bricked and they would lose all sort of confidence.
So, yeah, they need to do it right. And yeah, and I know they are so, which is the right approach.
Yeah, it's also the same what we did, especially with the Oracle and hooks, the creation, and so have a more measured approach, also, together with or hacking audits.
So it's like the ecosystem system just started like four months ago, and also for auditors and for all integrators for everyone, basically, this place is completely new, right script and everything is new.
Also to give them a little bit more time also to have like a back and forth, a learning curve for the auditors for for the devs for everyone involved, basically.
Yeah, and don't don't don't basically rush it just because we want to be too fast to the market.
But I really think it's so important to take a little bit more time for it.
But what we also saw, unfortunately, with cable a couple of weeks ago, it's like, yeah, a lot of unforesee buildings can happen in the early ecosystem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Yeah, but yeah, when?
So it's when red lock when concentrated for it's when.
So there's one more question left or two.
Two to the question before basically with the future of chart space. Some projects have like a resource resource checker.
We can see the top holders which lists of the token could be integrated, for example, into the portfolio manager where it gives you rank for each token, for example.
There's also a wallet checker that tells which wallet wallets it interacts most with. Is there a question actually involved in that?
Yeah, I think it's for like, yeah.
Yeah, I think it's sort of covered in yes, the kind of a bit more sort of analytics and data around resources and holders and the top accounts and information about collections, how many owners of a collection, etc.
So all that kind of more granular detail around resources is coming.
I think the sort of general direction that we like to take shared spaces in
you know, is in the ecosystem is allowing users to kind of an aggregator of dApps and services so shared space being a, you know, the radix aggregator or ecosystem aggregator.
So what you kind of have in compared to things like Airbnb or Uber, you've got a service like Airbnb where you've got all these hotels or rental property providers.
Everyone can access those from the single Airbnb website.
And so kind of taking that inspiration where you come to shared space and then you can instead of having to go to individual apps and services and hundreds or maybe thousands of different apps and services, you can potentially access quite a lot of those directly from shared space.
And it's not really interrupting or disrupting the business of those other services. It's just adding value, you know, to the user and to the OC swaps and the caveats and you know, the troves and whatnot if a user can equally access and use those services but from an aggregated place like shared space.
So that's kind of where we're hoping to kind of head towards is being that sort of ecosystem aggregator and then obviously there's all the other sort of tools like developer and airdrop tools and whatnot we've got.
Yeah, currently don't see any more incoming questions from the audience.
The next one I will just tease our token competition, what's currently still ongoing. I will soon announce an extension of it. So, everyone involved has a little bit more time to grow with their projects, we saw already over five or six projects are involved.
Obviously it makes sense to give all people involved a little bit more time to do this competition. So, that will also be announced very soon.
Obviously the OC bot is in the last stage before we deployed. So this will actually give a lot more features and opportunities so can for instance set up price alerts pool based.
So, if you want to know at the exact time when, for instance, the hug token has a certain price, an XID or USD post is possible, get on your telegram account, you can get a notification right away.
Also, way more this type of messages will be possible. So this is also close to the finish line at the moment, currently.
So, I'll check again, no more questions. Nope.
Okay, so something, Mr. you want to mention to add to the conversation?
No, that's it. I think we've pretty much covered where we are with ShardSpace and I think we're general, we're really bullish on where Radix is heading and the products and the approach the team are taking and obviously it's a privilege to work alongside yourself and the team at ACSwap.
There is really a great set of great group of people working and support within Radix. So, yeah, it's amazing.
Thank you, Andrew. Also, we just made it with the transition to the, what's the name again?
An enemy.
An enemy, yeah. Do you know what, I was on the call to Bitlord at the time when it happened, so I totally didn't, I totally missed it, but I've checked my notes since and it looks like it transitioned without a hiccup, no drop proposals.
Nobody noticed, basically, that's the best case scenario.
No, exactly. No alarms went off, nothing happened, it just works, which is what you want, which is amazing.
I don't know what kind of communities like Tocnotch, also the core dev team around with notes like Tocnotch, yeah, super, super proud of all the people involved.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you. Thank you for inviting me on and yeah, so if anyone in the community wants to have a chat, got some ideas, features, feedback, good or bad, then obviously please reach out and yeah.
Thanks again for having me.
Absolutely. Okay, let's wrap this up. Oh, thank you so much. Everyone listening. See you again next Thursday, so not Wednesday. It was like, just one special case for Wednesday.
So let's see your next birthday again. Really looking forward to that and thank you so much for listening. Bye guys.
Thanks, guys.