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Powering Agentic Payments on BNB Chain
Recorded: March 26, 2026 Duration: 1:01:30Space Recording
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Music Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. so
so Thank you. Thank you. All right guys, let's wait for a minute or two.
Just a while more for everyone to get in.
Thank you. All right, that is great. So we have everyone in. Once again, good day, good evening, depending
on where you're calling from. Thank you for tuning in to another BNB Chain AMA. We have weekly AI AMAs, it's really heating up in the space.
And today we are going to discuss the important part
of why agents are on chain for payments and transactions.
So without further ado,
I'm Walter from Business Development at BNB Chain,
and we will welcome four projects on board.
So perhaps we will start with the introduction of the project.
Tell us who you are in the organization and what you do.
And once again, not financial advice, do your own research.
And let's kick off with United Stables, please.
Thanks, Water. Glad to be here.
I'm Kim, representing United Stables,
so where we have built U,
which is a new generation US dollar pack stablecoin.
I think not a lot of people are familiar with you at that moment.
You can think of you as the unified liquidity layer
for the multi-chain world.
We are 1.1 back and yield bearing stablecoin,
but what really set us apart
is that we are purpose built for the future we can be used for DeFi,
global payments and specifically AI driven agent.
We have recently crossed the 1 billion total supply mark in under three months
good news and we are here on BNB chain to power the next wave of autonomous
commerce. Thank you.
Thank you so much Kim from United Stables.
Welcome.
And next up, Aeon, please.
Oh, yeah, no worries.
We will wait for Aeon to get the speaking rights.
Eddie is on the requesting line.
So let's move to Pyvus, please.
Introduce yourself. Hey, Walter. Thanks
for having us again. It's great to be back. Hello, everyone. My name is David. I'm the Chief
Marketing Officer here at Pyverse. Just a little bit about us. We are building the Agenic Neobank,
which is the financial and commerce infrastructure that makes autonomous AI agents actually usable
in Web3. So our flagship product right now is Perfect Claw, and that allows people to launch a Web3
native AI agent directly inside messaging apps like Line and Kakao and WhatsApp and
Telegram, Discord, and more.
So instead of dealing with wallets and seed phrases and complicated dashboards, you can
just chat with your agent in natural
language and it can carry out real on-chain actions for you in the background.
And we've also recently launched the Skill Store, which is essentially an app store for
agents.
So it gives agents, sorry, it gives users a simple way to discover and add new capabilities
and it gives developers a place to publish and monetize the skills they built.
So big picture for us is to make AI agents feel safe
and useful and easy enough for everyday people to use
while giving builders on B&B chain the rails
to create much richer agent experiences.
And yeah, I'm very excited to be here
and to talk about agentic payments today
because payments are such a big part
of what makes agents economically real.
So yeah, thank you.
Yeah, 100% welcome back.
We love the builders in the BNB chain and speaking of which, Eddie is back.
So yeah, Aeon, please introduce yourself.
Hey guys, this is Eddie from Aeon.
What we're building here is a crypto payment settlement layer
that helps agents to do transactions with real-life merchants.
So a bit of a background from our team, right?
So we've been doing payment,
well, all that payment with crypto payment materials
for, I don't know, like five, 10 years already,
at least five years in the space.
So we started crypto payment initially as a gateway solutions for exchanging wallets
to basically allowing users to use their balance to spend in real life.
We cover over 15 countries these days, covering over 40 million merchants.
And now what we're doing is that we bring all that power
to basically provide to agents
so that agent can also utilize all these channels
and gateway solutions to pay and buy real-life services.
And we're very excited to do so.
We've been working and building with BNP Chain
since I think one or two years ago.
We are also one of the first facilitator with XFo2 as well, both with Coinbase and also
with BNP Chain.
There's a lot of things that we can also talk about in later phases.
But yeah, we are super excited about um crypto payment essentially agenda payment
these days thank you welcome builders i own so nick's one of the largest in from bnb chain trust
wallet please hey hello wotu hey hello folks from bnb chain yeah I'm Scarlett from Trust Wallet. So Trust Wallet, I believe most of our audience today
should be our users.
So Trust Wallet is a self-custody multi-chain wallet
and that helps users securely access and use crypto
across the on-chain ecosystem.
system. So we are also the most downloaded wallet. We already have more than 230 million
So we are also the most downloaded wallet.
in the world. So yeah, for me, I'm focused on the strategy and bidding, especially around
our AI wallet roadmap and border auction product directions. So super happy to be here today.
and on border auction product directions.
So super happy to be here today.
And thanks for the inviting.
Thank you, Scarlett from TrustWallet.
So yeah, today we have very strong,
like committed builders on BNB chain,
and we will dive into agentic payment on BNB chain.
So BNB chain, we have grown a lot for 8004 protocol.
We have the most AI agents minted
across all of the Red 3 industry.
So that is made possible from builders and community like you guys listening in.
And we are going to explore with the builders here today, how do you foresee the agentic payments system benefiting the entire BNB chain ecosystem, including community and builders?
And maybe you can also share why BNB Chain is your decision to deploy.
What advantages do we have and what aid we have given developers
so that the developers and founders in the audience can learn more.
Let's start off with United Stables, please.
Thank you, Walter.
So on the agentic benefit, we think that for the entire BSC ecosystem,
agentic payment is the missing link for a truly autonomous economy.
It gives AI agent financial autonomy instead of just chatting.
Agent can now independently pay for their own API call,
purchase new skill in the marketplace,
and set the transaction 24-7 without a human hitting confirm every single time.
This creates a really high frequency transaction layer
that keeps the liquidity moving constantly on BNB chain.
And we are the first native stablecoin on BNB chain,
which supports X402 and ERC8004.
So when we decide where to deploy you,
BNB chain was the obvious choices for three reasons I would say.
So the first one is it high frequency ready so AI agent perform microtransaction right?
You need a low gas and high throughput that BNB chain cannot provide. The second one is what we
are particularly interested in is the AI stack with the ERC-8004 identity layer already existent here. It's already made an environment for AI-native stablecoin
like you to plug in.
And the third one, of course, we have to mention
is the ecosystem support.
This is a truly big deal from us,
from technical ground to zero-gas free campaign.
BNB chain is, I would say, the best place
for infrastructure providers like us
as a stablecoin issuer to scale very quickly.
We are thankful for that.
Thank you so much United Stables.
Definitely, I think it is great that our tech team reduced the block time, reduced the gas fees for the past few years.
And that somehow created the perfect path for stablecoins and AI to grow on BNB chain.
So thank you for sharing uh next
up the same question aeon could you share please sure sure um yeah i mean like uh the reason why
we choose i guess bmp to even start our journey i guess uh one or two years ago um there basically
i what i see three reasons right so first one is definitely on the settlement speed and I guess relatively lower gas fees.
This is, I would say, essential if not critical for any crypto payment to go through.
Not even mention agentic payment these days.
So if you consider anything about agentic payments, it's going to be autonomous.
It's going to be fast.
It's going to be machine talking to machine.
What that means is a high frequency transactions, basically.
And that requires an ultra stable network with very low fees,
or else you cannot process small amount payment.
And also with relatively, I guess, fast fee as well as payment after all, right?
And then it's high frequency.
So that's the first reason.
BNB is providing that super stable infrastructure for crypto payment as a ground.
And then second thing I would say is the liquidity.
It's like anything, any, I wouldn't even say narrative.
I would say any segment in the crypto these days for it to grow,
you need to have some sort of liquidity in the ecosystem these days. For it to grow, you need to have some sort of liquidity
in the ecosystem, right?
So be it DeFi, be it NFT, be it whatsoever.
And if you look at all the ecosystem these days,
I would say that BNB is having
the most complete set of liquidity,
you know, from stable coins like you
or, you know, all the trading facilities
like, you know, Pancake and Asta, all these things, right?
So it's a very complete set if you want to build anything with it.
So I would say that liquidity is super, super important.
And third component, I would say,
is the synergy between the projects in the ecosystem.
We were selected as one of the MVP projects back in last year.
The BNB chain helped us a lot.
So for builders, if you guys are building anything,
try to apply for BNB MVBs and whatsoever.
It's really beneficial.
You can see a lot of friends' projects.
We are helping each other for us to grow together as an ecosystem.
Like all these guys here even on the mic, right?
So like we work with you,
we work with Piverse, we work with TrustWallet. It's just our pleasure to be here. So I guess
that kind of provides our perspective on why we're here.
Thank you so much. Well said. I was about to say, you know, liquidity is a very good point where
on a blockchain, you know, things finalize on a spot, so liquidity makes
things flow. But your last point strikes even harder where, yeah, everyone here are like
different bits and pieces of the overall infrastructure to make their agents work on chain on BNB
chain. So I think that is great. I love that about BNB chain as well. And next up to share,
Hyvers, please. Yeah, I think the most important thing about agentic payments is that
they turn agents from an interface into infrastructure. So once an agent can not
only reason, but also pay for a service or trigger an action or, you know, settle value
and eventually move to the next step on its own, you start to get a very different kind of
ecosystem. So it turns into an environment where software can participate economically, right? In a continuous, seamless flowing way. And for
the BNB chain ecosystem, that matters on both, I think, you know, like you said,
the community side and the builder side. So for users, agentic payments, they make on-chain
activity feel a lot more natural. So instead of balancing between wallets and dashboards and
tabs and approvals and
stuff like that, the user can express their intent just one time and then let
the agent handle execution in the background.
And that's a really big part of what we're doing with Perfect Claw.
You know, we're, we're bringing agents directly into messaging apps.
Like I said, um, ones that people are already using.
So the entry point into Web3 becomes just a conversation rather
than a wallet first experience. So that completely lowers into Web3 becomes just a conversation rather than a wallet
first experience. So that completely lowers friction, but more importantly, I think it makes
on-chain services a lot more accessible and reachable for people who would have otherwise
never touched it in the first place, right? And then for builders, the shift becomes a lot more
interesting. In Igenic Payments, they create a new distribution layer for protocols.
So instead of only building for a human user who lands on your front end, you can build for agents
that can discover your service and then use it as part of their workflows. And that's exactly why we
launched the Skill Store. So our view is that the next wave of growth will not just come from more
dApps competing for attention in like a browser.
And, you know, instead it'll come from builders packaging what they've created into agent usable skills that can be installed and, you know, monetized across these agent environments.
So, you know, at Pyverse, that's already the direction, right? The developers can publish
skills and monetize them and then make their capabilities available to agents through a live
marketplace. So when we think about how agentic payments benefits BNB chain, we think about better
agent payment rails creating better agent behavior.
And then that better agent behavior creates more useful skills and services, which then
creates even more reasons for users to stay active and more reasons for builders to ship.
So our role here is to help supply the
missing pieces of that stack. So the runtime that lets agents actually execute and the skill store
that gives builders, like we said, a marketplace and a monetization layer and increasingly,
you know, the commerce rails that let agents pay and coordinate more autonomously. So, you know,
that's the lens that Pyreverse is kind of looking at this all of this from you know we're not just talking about agentic payments as an idea we're actually building the
interfaces and we're building the payment services and the distribution channels that make them
usable inside the bnb chain ecosystem and yeah i mean that's why we chose to go so deep um you know
on bnb chain for us it's about building in an ecosystem where there's
already enough real activity and enough live protocols and enough openness to new interface
layers that agents can you know become useful very quickly and you know the launch catalog for
our skill store already includes names like bmb chain and pancake swap and aster and 4.meme and
bitget and and so many more more. And that means builders are not
coming into an empty environment. They're plugging into an ecosystem where agent-native capabilities
can start being useful from day one, the second they enter the store. And BNB Chain's own roadmap
is moving in a similar direction with an AI agent framework that includes payment abstraction layers
and agent registries. And that alignment is like really important
because it means the ecosystem is becoming more prepared
and more ready for the kind of, you know, agent-driven commerce
that we believe is, we all believe is coming up and coming next.
So the way that I would leave it here for founders and developers listening
is to start thinking about your product, not only as an app,
but as, you know, a capability as an app, but as a capability
that an agent can call and pay for and build on top of.
And that's the shift that we here at Pyverse are betting on.
And what we're building on BNB Chain is meant to help make that shift real and palpable
for users through chat native execution and for builders through discoverable and monetizable agent-ready skills.
Yeah, thank you, 100%.
I think the beauty of BME Chain
is that we have a large survey.
So if you want to make a product,
you don't necessarily need to make
a first mover innovation.
Like, you know, Stephen invented OpenClaw.
And if you use the raw framework,
it's difficult to program.
But something like Perclaw is like, it helps, to me, it's like OpenClaw. And if you use the raw framework, it's difficult to program. But something like Perclaw, it helps.
To me, it's like OpenClaw as a service.
So it helps to reduce the friction of adoption using AI
in Red 3.
So yeah, I think this is great.
And next up, TrustWallet, please.
Sorry, Scarlett. Okay.
Yes, let's wait for him.
So from TrustWallet's point of view, or first of all, from my personal opinion, I actually
think agentic payments is one of the first AI cross web three use cases that can become real very fast because I think it can solve a very concrete problem.
previously like a lot of product and are still stuck in a thinking thinking layer you know they
can recommend uh something summarize the like informations compare or even help you to make the
decision but the moment when the assets or money need to be need to move the whole user experience is bricked. So yeah, you still need to jump across tours,
manually confirm a bunch of steps
and basically finish the last mile by yourself.
So to me, the agentic payments are interesting
because they can close the gap in here.
And once that happens, the impact is much bigger than just
payments because uh from builders point of view that means you can design the product where
payments is native to the utiflo not only like some separate checkout page at the end you know
like your ai agent can pay for like infra,
like can unlock the services, can distribute the rewards,
or even settle the incentives automatically,
or maybe even coordinate multi-steps on chain actions.
So that changes what kinds of product can exist.
So yeah, I think that's the potential,
or that's the real use cases bought by the
agentic payments. So for the border BSE or BNB chain ecosystem, I think the benefits is actually
very straightforward because more useful agent behavior means more real on-chain activities.
Useful agent behavior means more real ancient activities.
So, yes, like, you know, like, because currently we saw a lot of like ancient activities.
They are actually somehow fake, you know, very like a vanity, I would say.
But yeah, for the agenticic payments all the activities are real actual
utility and yes they are more transactions we with the reason behind them so yeah the
like a more product products where stable coins wallets orchain services are part of the integrated loop with the agentic payments.
So that's good for Yudish, also good for builders.
And yes, I believe that's also where like trust wallets have a very like a pretty like unique perspective because we sit right at the
intersections of the user intention, user assets and permissions and executions.
You know, we act as like an interaction layer between all of these. So when people talk about agentic payments,
I don't think the right question is just like, can the agent pay?
The more important question is under what wallet contacts
with what kinds of permissions,
like whose behavior,
and with what trust model.
So that's where wallets become really important
in our AI era
because wallets
is no longer just a place
where users
they store their assets.
It's become the decision service
for how the AI intelligence
touches the real assets
or money.
So while BNB chain specifically we select to build on?
Honestly, because, you know, this category only works
if the chain itself is cheap, fast, and already have real users.
Otherwise, you know, we just stay as a demo.
That doesn't make sense.
BNB Chain is really strong in here because
it already has the distribution,
has the liquidity, has the active stablecoin usage,
and has enough ecosystem players
and densities that developers can actually plug into something alive. So you don't want to
build authentic payments in an environment where every transaction feels very heavy or expensive.
So yeah, that will kill the whole product loop. So my view in here is that if AI is the new interface someday, maybe just a few years, then payments
are one of the first place where the interface becomes economically meaningful.
So if you want to build the agent as a business very seriously, then BNB chain is one of the
most practical environments to do it, I would see.
Yeah, thank you so much. Definitely.
We are seeing so many transactions and growth just by having so many passive agents
helping to aggregate the blockchain stuff and so on.
And as we are moving towards, like you mentioned, autonomous agents
and then the wallet and the safety aspect becomes very important.
So yeah, I think TrustWallet did a great job here. I guess we can trust TrustWallet for the
agentic payments. And I will move on into the deeper questions and topics for the projects here,
starting off with United Stables. So United Stables has been super agile in the technology
adoption angle, where it is the first stablecoin
to feature the native BNB chain
EIP-3009 support
enabling X402 on BSC basically.
And this creates a very fast utility
for United Stables.
So yeah, Kim, please tell us
more on the significance
and how this integration aligns
with Yu's vision of becoming the stablecoin
to unify all liquidity across all the sectors. Yeah sure Walter. So for integrating EIP 3009
it is a super big deal for us because one of our targets is actually it's not only for human it's
also for AI agents. So two big things happen here first we enable
gasless payment so right now an AI agent can now hold any yield token and still transit they do
not need to manage a separate balance of native gas token which used to be a huge operational
headache for for AI agent and secondly it's we also allow transfer with authorization.
This is also perfect for high speed AI interaction where the agent needs to move value instantly and securely.
As mentioned before, we are the first stablecoin to offer native EIP3009 support on BSC.
So this integration aligns with our own vision to unify liquidity across sectors.
It also positions you as the default programmable money for the entire AI economy on BSC.
By adopting EIB 3009, we are now removing the technical barrier that previously isolated this sector,
also designed for both humans and other AI agent as i mentioned so uh just a just
advertisement here we are integrated with aeon and pyverse here and i think we are uh we are we
are also in talk with a lot of x402 project on bsc and we wish to um we wish to collaborate with more projects. Thank you.
Yeah, thank you. Definitely use this to try having you as the stables on your wallet.
And like what Ken mentioned, United Stables mentioned,
you as a developer as well, you can leverage on the skills developed by Aon and Pivus
to let AI agents transact with each other using EIP 3009.
So definitely try that out. And we will touch on the infra side of things
where TrustWallet is one of the largest infrastructure wallet
on BNB chain.
And it is also very agile and very quick to launch
model context protocol, MCP and code skills
and many more that supports the OpenClaw ecosystem.
So what is the biggest benefit for developers
to use the skills that complements TrustWallet?
So perhaps you can share more.
Okay, thank you, Wotui, for the question.
By the way, another good news is that
we are going to release our AI agent toolkits
just today, maybe one hour later.
So which means TrustWallet now is
usable as an execution tool for all AI agents.
So developers can now move from a read-on-in exploring
previously to a real wallet connected executions.
And users can remain in control through a self custody and user authorized
execution model and to back to the question i think the biggest benefit is that um it can
remove a lot of stupid frictions for the builders workflow i i remember um like like it's a piece of verse or someone else, I mean like our
one of our guest speaker also mentioned about it like stupid frictions you know like because as a
developer a lot of time in the development is not spending it's not spent actually for building itself
it's spending like on searching through the docs checking examples figuring out like which patterns
is the right one and like translating all of that into something usable inside your workflow. So that problems become even more obvious
in AI native development.
Especially, I'm not sure as a non-tech user,
I tried to wipe coding previously.
Because I draw the question that it's become
even more obvious or worse in ai native development because now the question
is not just whether like a human can read or understand these documents the questions is
whether your coding agents can actually use them well so yeah um like for example can it affect
the right uh implement uh implementation pass or can it reduce the amount of the
backend force before you get something usable? So yeah, I think that's why we move early on MCP
and cloud code skills because we feel pretty strongly that if the builders are increasingly
If the builders are increasingly using the AI assistant workforce,
then the docs cannot stay as static pages
that users manually search through the AI.
So they need to become much more usable
inside the build process itself.
So that's how we work smartly with the AI itself.
So yes, the one clear benefit is the speed.
For developers, they can go from where do I even start
to show me the right way to build this with TrustWallet
much faster with AI agent.
So I think there is a deeper value behind,
there is also a very,
I would say it's a very like a strategical
or a deeper value that we have our ambitions on
is that we are not just helping people
to find the dogs faster.
Because a lot of AI tools can already help with the copywriting, right?
But what is harder, especially in AI cross web 3.0 space,
is actually building something that actually works well in a real crypto user journey.
So we keep talking about the PMF.
So that's where we can help the developers to find the PMF.
And that's also where TrustWallet has a unique edge in here
because we are very close to real wallet usage,
real assets, real user decisions decisions real modishing behaviors so when
builders use our skills they are not just uh you know like a building faster or building like a
blandly they are building with a much clearer sense of how real crypto users actually behave
crypto users actually behave and what a real world experience needs.
So yeah, I would say in the end, the value is not only about the speed we can provide
for the builders.
It's also that while they build, it's more likely to feel useful, natural, and can be
actually relevant to the real crypto users.
So yeah, let me put it in a very simple way. It's not just about helping the developers ship
faster. It's also about helping them ship something that really or actually makes sense
in the real crypto world.
So yeah, that's it from our end.
Yeah, thank you.
100%. Definitely, if you play around with current AI agents,
the wallet skills is very important to narrow down
large language models into the accurate tools to use
to transact in the space.
Thank you for sharing this.
And next up, Aon.
So Aon, you guys, you know,
worked very quickly with a lot of different projects
like Pyvus to build the X-Force,
specifically the facilitator.
And that allows AI agents to execute on-chain transactions
and create on-chain immutable chronological receipts,
which are important, I would say, in the blockchain space.
So could you share how this development builds up the agentic economy? chronological receipts, which are important, I would say, in the blockchain space.
So could you share how this development builds up the agentic economy?
Of course, of course.
So I guess before I answer this question directly,
I will actually want to give a little bit
of my understanding to agentic payment these days first,
or agentic common these days.
Because everyone talks about agentic comments
and payments for the past few months.
And then we've been also doing a lot of trials
with projects, with ecosystem.
You know, we've been trying to see what are being using
and what is the pain point and things, right?
It turns out that I believe, right?
So this is from my perspective,
from Eon's perspective,
that we see agentic payment itself as two parts.
The first part is agent to agent.
What that means is that machines talk to machines, right?
So like basically your agent calls my agent,
you know, be it skill-based or call-based,
you know, just to pay for each other
for the using crypto can be.
Just because I think people are using crypto
because, you know, for example, X42
or any other, any EIPs or EIPs
are because of the current defection of Fiat system.
Because if you think about it,
if you ask an agent to use a credit card
to pay to another agent,
it's just not going to happen in a very soon time because of the risk control part, KYC part,
KYB part, all these things, all these problems. But either way, so people figuring out that agent
paying to agent is best using crypto for its, I would say, efficiency, low cost, and generosity,
and compatible with all these infrastructure on the internet, right?
So that's the first part.
But the other part, if you look at it, which I feel like a lot of,
I guess, even on Twitter, not a lot of people actually talk about it,
is that once you actually call another agent for some services,
that service a lot of times has to go to the real life as well,
to purchase a real life, be it cloud services,
be it domain buying services, being API services,
or just a delivery service and things.
And those things are also important.
These are two different, very different
settlement. One is on-chain transaction-based, fast crypto transactions settlements for agent
to agent. The other is that an adoptable way for agent to use the crypto they collected to buy the
service from real life in order to complete a real task.
It's like a Toyota.
It's like a car factory manufacturing, right?
So, for example, like Toyota,
they buy wheels and tires and everything from their vendors.
However, those vendors will also need to pay for their factory
in order to make their, I guess, the tires and wheels and things.
And that will always land it in fiat.
It's the same thing with agent-to-agent commerce these days.
I think that agent-to-agent economy is a very sexy and very potential space.
However, if you think about it, even if you use VypeCoding,
so you ask an agent to build a website for you,
yes, you can use your agent to call another agent to design for you.
However, for it to design, maybe it has to pay some IP fees.
Maybe it has to pay for some logo fees from some photo library.
Then it always, always evolves
with the real-life part.
That settlement is inevitable
if you actually want to build
a full cycle end-to-end agent payment use case.
This is what I'm saying is that
how I see, I guess, agentic commerce as a whole, right?
So like, as Aon,
what we have built previously is agent-to-agent, right? So like, as Aon, what we have built previously
is agent-to-agent,
X402 settlements,
that helps agents
to receive crypto transactions
so that they can receive the orders,
they can just pass on the transactions
so that agent-to-agent can trade
or can transact,
can do business actions
or whatsoever,
the prompt and stuff.
But what we are also building on the other part is the second part.
We are connecting the real-life services,
the actually usable things to the agent as well
because not all the transactions by users or by agents
will be like full information
or doesn't really include anything that's real.
I believe that's still minimum.
Even if you say, I want the agent to just analyze
the crypto sentiment these days on Twitter.
It seems like it's full informational.
But if you think about it,
ultimately, you need someone
to pay for the Twitter API
so you can call out all the notifications
and things like that.
That's going to be another.
Still, you're interacting with real life as well, right?
So I think it's really important
to see all these things together as a whole.
And what Aon is building is towards that.
And what we've been enhancing, I guess,
on the X4 tool facilitator is that
we are connecting our facilitator
with all the merchants we have in real life.
We're connecting with real life,
which is like over 40 million merchants.
And those things, I believe,
can actually help builders or developers.
If you actually want to build something with a PMF,
you want your agent to do things for people
so people actually pay subscription fee for your agent.
If you want to do that,
that's something that we're hoping as a vision,
as an agentic infrastructure that we're building.
Yeah, thank you so much.
Definitely.
I see a lot of potential in this
and I do agree that eventually the breach,
there will be various ways for like AI agents
and extra human interactions to progress further,
like traditional large payment systems slowly adopting crypto,
or like you mentioned, the AI agents have the ability to also transact
in between fiat and blockchains.
So yeah, I think this is very quickly growing.
So this year, I think, is the year to look for this growth.
I look forward to more progress and evolution in this area.
And next up, Pyvus. Pyvus allowed BNB chain builders to deploy AI agents through messaging
apps. As I mentioned earlier, it's like OpenClaw as a service. Very interesting. And it is also
providing a hub to explore AI skills on BNB chain. So we would like to ask, what is the motivation
behind these developments to support agentic growth on BNB chain. So we would like to ask what is the motivation behind these developments to support
agentic growth on BNB chain? Yeah, yeah. This question really kind of hits the heart of where
we've been focused on at Fiverr. So the motivation behind Perfect Claw and the Skill Store,
they're actually very simple. We think AI agents only become meaningful on BNB chain once they can do two
things well. So execute safely and access useful capabilities. So right now, most agents, they can
reason, right? They can recommend and they can plan, but the moment you want them to actually
do something on chain, that's when you hit the wallet wall, right? And so they may look intelligent,
but they still can't complete the job in a way that feels like safe or practical or natural for real users.
And that's the first problem we kind of set out to solve with Perfect Claw.
We wanted to turn open Claw style agents into real on-chain operators that people can use through interfaces that they already understand, right?
they already understand, right?
Like we mentioned earlier, all the messaging apps.
Like we mentioned earlier, all the messaging apps.
So under the hood, we use a T-based keyless wallet
architecture so that the agent never directly holds
or sees a private key.
And then we pair that with things like ERC 6551 style,
bounded permissions and ERC 8004 identity
so agents can act within clear limits
and then with verifiable on-chain presence.
And the result, it's that the user experience becomes much simpler.
So instead of manually navigating wallets and dashboards, a user can just express, like
we said, their intent in the chat and then let the agent carry out swaps or rebalances
or other actions on VMB chain in the background.
So for us, that's a huge part of supporting agent growth on VmvChain
because it makes the ecosystem much more reachable to normal users and not just crypto native ones.
And then the second problem is capabilities. So even the best runtime, it doesn't matter much if
the agent has nothing useful to do, right? So that's why the skill store, it's such an important
part of our strategy. We think the next phase of growth when it comes to builders on VMB chain
can package what they have created into agent usable skills that users can discover and install and pay for.
So that gives developers a new distribution surface and a monetization layer,
while still giving agents a growing ecosystem of capabilities that they can actually meaningfully use.
So instead of every protocol needing to fight for attention
through its own front end,
it can become a part of the agent's actual working toolkit.
So that's a really different model.
And we think it's a lot more scalable
and a lot more growth minded, right, going forward.
So when you ask, you know,
what's motivating these consistent
developments, the answer is that we're trying to build the missing infrastructure layer that
helps agents become real economic, economic participants on B&B chain. So, you know, we have
perfect claw, right, that solves the execution side, and then the skill store, it solves the
capability and then the distribution side. And together, they kind of create the foundation for agentic payments where agents are not just chatting or suggesting but they're actually
discovering services and they're actually using skills and actually participating in on-chain
activity in a much more continuous rate right and what excites us the most is what this does for the
broader ecosystem so on one end it brings in users who would never have started, right,
from a wallet-first experience,
especially in markets where messaging apps
are already the default interface,
which is so many markets, right?
And then on the other hand,
it gives builders a new way to reach users
and monetize, you know, functionality.
So from our perspective,
it's all about adding a new intelligent interface
and commerce layer on top of the BMB chain ecosystem.
Right. It's it's it's it's one that makes the ecosystem more accessible, more programmable and eventually a lot more active.
And that's really why we've been building so consistently in this direction.
You know, we don't think the future is just one smart agent in isolation, right? That's passe, right?
We think the real opportunity is an ecosystem of agents
that can act safely and gain capabilities, you know,
in a dynamic way and transact with each other
and, you know, with services around them, right?
So Perfect Claw is live, the Skill Store is live.
And the next step for us is to build a protocol
that gives agents a shared commerce layer. So, you know,
they can discover capabilities and coordinate actions together and exchange
value more seamlessly with, you know, services and with each other.
And that's kind of the broader vision that we're building towards on and with
BeamMeaching.
Yeah, that is great. You know,
if we integrate all of our speakers' points here today, like Pi vs. Aon and then
Trust Wallet with the SDK and United Stables with the stablecoin usage for agents, you
know, if all of these are eventually developed further, the AI agent can essentially do anything
on the internet, like on the blockchain space and all the way to like applications that we
use day to day so this this is definitely very exciting on bmc and i believe our users here
would like to you know because you guys are building a lot of things what are the future
developments that you guys are working on so let's go into closure where uh please share a final
um you know takeaway for our audience regarding what you're building in BNB chain and AI side of things.
Feel free to share your
socials. Everyone should follow all the builders,
the projects here today and
look for what's next.
Maybe let's start off with United Stables,
please.
Sorry, your question again,
Water?
Yeah, just to share
what is your next future development to share with our audience here?
Our next future development is actually we are working with a lot of emerging market payment system
to enable the global payment system.
A lot of things we are not able to share at the moment, but you can stay tuned to our official account.
Sorry about that.
It's confidential.
No problem.
Yeah, definitely.
A lot is building.
You guys have been very fast.
And yeah, definitely follow United Stables to learn more.
And next up, Aeon, please.
Yeah, thanks, Walter.
So, like I think I also touched a little bit in the last section as well.
So, what we're building here is definitely trying to build the infrastructure, not just empowering agent to agent,
but also connecting all these potential transactions to real life, right?
So, allowing real PMF agents to happen.
That's what we're working towards.
Into product, I would say.
Recently, we are releasing a new, I would say,
agent card product.
So basically allowing agents to use virtual card
to purchase goods and services, even Netflix membership and everything like that,
allowing that to happen in the global scale even.
So still, it's not released yet.
It's probably more of a teaser,
but this is something we're building.
And also, we would also want to pack our ability, the real world adoption
ability into a skill that can fit to all these CloudBots, right? I think that's also going
to be very helpful for all the, I guess, CloudBot builder as well. So those are two things
that we're really working on these days. But also something along the line, to be honest,
what we believe is the most difficult part
and also what we really want to build in the long run,
it would be a real authentic KYA system.
Because it's a long story, but really, if you look at it
in the crypto payment
or like a giant payment these days,
the biggest problem is KYA
in the long run.
Whoever can build that,
I would say it can become the next visa.
Yeah.
I won't get too long here.
Yeah, 100%.
Like when you mentioned agent card,
that is also one of the key things
that I'm looking for this year. And when you talk about cards, KYC, KYA, you mentioned agent card, that is also one of the key things that I'm looking for this year.
And when you talk about cards, KYC, KYA, know your agent, all these things is what comes into play.
Definitely exciting to see what the builder is going to build on this.
And next, Pyverse, could you share your clothes here, please?
Yeah, of course. Yeah, so everything we've been doing at Pyverse, you know, it's about helping agents become real economic participants on BNB chain and not just agents that can reason, but agents that can actually act and transact and create value in ways that are really genuinely useful for everyday users and for builders, too.
and working on is the Pyverse A2A,
which is agent-to-agent commerce protocol.
And what that is, it's a payment protocol
for autonomous agent-to-mergent commerce
built on HTTP 402.
And it'll be defined by a four-layer commerce stack,
which covers identity and authorization
and payment execution and dispute resolution
for AI agents operating, right,
without any humans humans right uh humans
touching it and the idea behind that is it's you know kind of going back to what i said before
which is one capable agent right is super interesting but a network of agents that can
discover services and coordinate tasks and make payments and build reputation together it's so
much more powerful and yeah that's um that's the direction we're heading in um you know it's a shared commerce layer that connects agents into real economic flows so they can do more than
execute isolated actions and you know they can increasingly interact with services and with each
other in a way that's programmable and you know um a lot more seamless and that's the next natural
step for what piverse has been building. And it's coming very soon.
And yeah, that's what excites us most about building with you guys, with BNB Chain and
with all of you here today.
You know, it gives us the right environment to take agents from useful tools and turn
them into real participants in, you know, a global on-chain economy.
So yeah, the one thought I'd love to leave everyone with is this, is that the
real opportunity in AI and Web3, it's not just smarter agents, it's agents with safe and
trustworthy and seamless economic agency. And yeah, that's the future that we are working
towards here at Pyverse. And we're so excited to continue building this on BNB chain. And
yeah, thank you again, Walter. It's always a pleasure.
And thank you to the entire BMB Chain team
and for all of our partners here today.
And yeah, always appreciate the chance to share
what we're building with all of you guys
and with the community.
So hope to be back soon.
Yeah, safety is definitely very important in our industry.
You know, as you empower AI agents, safety is a key thing. And I do think agent to agent will be super important where, you know, right now,
a lot of studies, including Grok, right, are using multi-agent networks. So the most optimized way
for a very smart agent, like full framework is actually a swarm of agents, not one large agent.
So yeah, look forward to how this progresses in the AI space.
And last but not least, Trustwiller,
please share your developments and your closure.
Okay, so before sharing our product of future plan,
I will say my honest view is that the AI cross-web street space
still has a lot of noises right now.
Because I can see that, you know,
on apps everywhere,
like you can see a lot of people are excited
about the most extreme version of the story,
which is the fully autonomous agents,
you know, agent trainings for you,
agent doing everything end-to-end.
And sure, that sounds very cool at this stage,
but I think the market sometimes skips
over a much more important question,
which is what's actually used for,
what can users can actually trust.
So from Trust Wallet's point of view,
the distinguish matters a lot.
We don't think the winning product is necessarily the one that looks the most autonomous in the demo. We think that should be the one to have the best combined intelligence, and real utility because in in crypto you know if
you get the trust model wrong then everything else become irrelevant very fast so our roadmap
is actually pretty I would say intentional because we start from understanding first
Because we start from understanding first and helping users and agents to understand assets, market contacts, wallet contacts, the risk of some token, contract, and valuable actions.
Then over time, we make the experience more proactive, more personalized, or like more operational.
But always from a self-custody first foundation.
So our strategy is obviously distinguished from others.
So that is part I think is quite unique.
And from our point of view, we are not approaching ai as a separate product layer
floating on the top of uh crypto we are approaching ai from the wallet layer itself
you know from the like the place where the users the assets permissions executions already come together so i think uh this becomes more valuable over time
not less so um you know like uh when we uh have the discussions internally we feel that like
because as the as the ai layer gets uh more like a come commentedized I would say.
What really matters is who owns
the trust surface,
who understands the user context,
and who can translate
the intelligence into action
without breaking user
control. So my
takeaway for the
audience would be
don't just look for the most autonomous product,
but look for the product with the best trust model
that you can trust for, you know,
and with a very clear path to the real utility.
And for us, that's exactly where we are focused.
Like we are building the AI native wallet experiences
that's actually useful, but still feel safe,
feel practical, trustable, and aligned with the self-custody.
So yeah, that's it.
That's how we're ambitious, or you can see, our thinking around AI.
Thank you so much, Scarlett, from Trust Wallet.
I like that it's always about the users' rights to self-custody,
having a safe and trusted environment.
So I think that's it.
And we have reached the end of the AMA.
Thank you, United Stables, Aon, Piverse and Trust Wallet
once again this is not financial advice
but definitely a lot of valuable lessons
can be learned from this
on AJ Tech Payments on BNB Chain
thank you everyone for joining
do follow all the socials of the builders
of the projects and BNB Chain as well
have a nice day, have a nice night
thank you everyone, bye bye
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