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Presently Present with Mama & Papa 🧸💚
Recorded: July 10, 2025 Duration: 1:05:09Space Recording
Short Summary
The conversation highlights a bullish trend in the crypto market, with significant price movements and growing interest among younger generations. Discussions on monetization strategies and community collaboration reflect the evolving landscape of crypto opportunities.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Papa.
Papa.
How's it going?
It's going. It's going.
It's going.
Do you think a 29-minute trek to get to the west side is pretty long, or you think that's average?
I thought it was a little bit long.
A little long, but it's not too far from average.
Oh, really? Okay.
How's it going, though? How was your day, baby?
You know, it was eventful.
It was productive.
Oh, that's good. I like productive days, dude.
I feel like I had a productive day yesterday, but at the very end.
That's what I thought.
I'm like, yeah, yesterday was more productive than today.
But you got to not be hard on yourself.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is very true.
Why'd you make the grandchildren cry?
I didn't.
You didn't?
Well, one of them is crying right now, so I was just wondering what you did to them.
Considering I don't know that I've seen them.
I know, baby.
I'm just joking.
What's up, Joe Mama?
How are you doing?
How's your day been,
sir?
Not long.
You're a wizard.
Oh, shit.
You got some voice changer on there?
You sound a little different today,
Joe Mama.
But it's okay. Maybe you have a little frog in your throat
or something.
He sounds a little haggard today yeah he does bro he does okay well let's talk about something
insanely good right now did you guys see the fucking market pumping
yeah like what the fuck right miss that shit that shit was like beyond god candles that was like
wild stuff it's funny because um t-wop and crypto stoner they were on um a call when um
when that shit was printing and i'm like you guys look at bitcoin it was so funny they're like what
the fuck and i'm like, that's so classic.
They're like, it even went higher to you. I mean, they were just going back and forth. It was really
funny. And then my granddaughter comes in and she's like, Mimi, why do people care about Bitcoin
in this house? You know, cause we're always talking about like yelling it across the house.
Like I'm telling little bear and I'm telling T-Wop. I'm like, Hey, you guys, fucking Bitcoin's
ripping.
So my granddaughter comes up to me and she says, why do people in this house care about Bitcoin?
And I was like, well, it's crypto.
I was trying to explain it to her.
She's like, well, my dad trades and he says it's fun, but I want to learn.
I'm like, dude, if your dad got you trading and taught you and video, like recorded that shit, he would go viral for teaching a nine-year-old how to trade
you know um you imagine joe mama she's all taking short positions and longs and shit
anyway so she was asking me about the bitcoin she's like mimi do you make money from bitcoin
and i said well papa does and your uncle does and your dad does but but not me. And she's like, why? Because it's just not your turn to talk yet?
What kind of shit am I teaching my granddaughter? Well, if you're a woman, you don't get to earn
Bitcoin. Fuck. I got to step up my game, bro. She's like, is it just not your turn to talk?
She's so fucking funny. But God, can you imagine you you guys, if she was, like, if T-Wop taught her how to trade, even if he had her make a few trades.
And then if that was being, like, they wouldn't even have to show her face, honestly.
I mean, if they doxxed her, that would be insane because she would, it would go crazy.
But, you know, they could put, like, a filter on her or something and just, like, showed her doing it. I don't know. I don't think it's too far-fetched, you know, they could put like a filter on her or something and just like showed her doing it.
I don't know.
I don't think it's too far-fetched, you guys.
So that would be absolutely wild.
Then our whole family will be in crypto.
I don't think we're really missing it.
My dad's in crypto, and he's a great granddad.
We've got my kids in it.
And then just bring the grandkids in it. Fuck it. Let's ball,
right? What does that be? Three generations? Damn, I should be wild. Yep. What do you think, Papa?
We need to get her account set up, get her blue checkmark. Sissy WAP. Sissy WAP. Oh my God,
stop it right now. That's it. It it's happening but we could get her a prop firm
account and uh you know have her sign under me because any money that she uh makes i want to
get a percentage of just not from her but from her trades dude i'm making this happen right now
sissy wop is coming to uh x no it's funny just to think about, like, all the things you can do with social media now.
It should be wild.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I was just thinking about that earlier.
I don't know what to say, babe.
Today's a good day.
I know you've had kind of a rougher day, but me and you will go spend some time together. Yeah. If you want. I'm not going to make you though. What do you
mean if I want? I'm just saying, bro. Just saying. It's like humid as shit outside. The
kids actually all just opened up their pool in the living room with my mom. Did you know
that? No. Somebody's going gonna have to find a pump or
those motherfuckers are all gonna be taking turns blowing I don't know what's gonna happen but
yeah hyperventilating in the backyard
we'll have like kids passed out across the yard T-Waffle will be passed out oh my god that would
be horrible yeah that would be that would be so screwed.
I know there's a big thing going on tomorrow.
Did you hear about that?
Rick Starr is actually hosting.
I don't know who is hosting.
Do you know about this?
Okay, yeah, it's the Mutant Records Block Party. I'm actually going to put this up at the top so everybody can set their reminders.
But you're going to have to help me out with the timing. Cause I don't know. Um, okay. So it's
fuck. That is not well, Joe mama, you might be the only one who shows up from here. That is
hella early, bro. 2 AM for us. Yeah. But Joe Mama doesn't sleep, dude. He goes to bed, like, later because of the heat, too, you know?
That's what I'm saying.
He's our only hope.
I'm definitely not making that shit on time.
Okay.
I'm excited.
I'm writing a response to this, you guys.
But it's up at the top, and I think it's going to be a big space.
So that's awesome. Damn, that was so late. What's up? No top, and I think it's going to be a big space. So that's awesome.
Damn, that was so late.
What's up?
No credits.
How's it going?
Good.
It's eight hours long.
That's right.
I know.
That's exciting at least.
Yeah, I'm not going to be there at the start because, like, that's crazy.
But I'll probably make the end of it.
I was just going to say I might make the last hour.
I'm like counting with my fingers trying to figure out my wake-up time.
If I'm lucky, I wake up at 8 a.m.,
but sometimes I like to lay in bed till 10.
That's just ridiculous, isn't it?
I know.
How are you feeling?
I actually got worse.
Yeah, you sound like it.
Yeah, I went downhill again so um my son my son
had whatever we've got um because we don't we're not going to go test or anything it's just we're
ill yeah um and he got bad and then he was bad for a week and then he got better for a couple
days and he went away with some friends and he came back three days later and i was like how's
your trip you know you're feeling better like and he was like no I got worse and then the same thing happened to me I felt
really good Monday Tuesday and then the last sort of two couple days I just like gone back down to
the depths of hell again so yeah it's not been fun yeah it doesn't sound like it I'm sorry you know
I've actually heard that about whatever is going around right now that people start to
feel better and then do you think it's because you start to feel better and then you're like
oh I got this and then it just slams you back down what do you know I usually usually when you
get sick you get to this point it's suddenly you like someone will say how you're feeling and you're
like actually I've I've got over the hump I think I'm going to be better from now on and I got that
and I felt much better.
I just think that it's got a spike in its tail, and on its way out,
it just, you know, stabs you through the heart a couple times,
and then you go back down again.
Right.
Damn it.
Yeah, it's like, you know, when kids get really tired or animals,
and all of a sudden they get, like, the zoomies.
That's what happened with that virus, huh?
It's just like, let me kick it up real quick.
And for whatever reason, I've had a bunch of early morning late night meetings this week and i just feel exhausted that's always the worst when you feel like
shit and you have to do something it's funny because when i feel really good um then i don't
have to do anything do you know what i mean but when I feel really bad, it's like Murphy's Law. I'm like, son of a bitch.
I have to do this one.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just how life plays.
It is.
Did your wife catch it or no?
I was hanging out with my auntie yesterday,
and she said, no, no, girls can't get it.
So they don't get it.
Okay, perfect.
My wife is amazing.
She just never gets sick.
I don't know what it is.
Wow.
It's probably because she gets everything and you guys just don't even know.
She's like just superheroing it out.
Well, maybe.
I just don't remember the last time she was in bed sick.
Like literally, I do not remember it.
And I've been, I'll go like 12 months and i'm fine and then
i get sick for two weeks or three weeks or four weeks yeah and um yeah i get man flu real bad
yeah so does papa dude if papa even feels something coming along he'll be like i think
i'm getting sick and i'm like what are your symptoms he's like my nasal passage feels a little stuffy. And he'll go into shutdown mode.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
I do understand it's different.
Everybody experiences things different.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
I have no idea why.
Yeah.
She doesn't get it.
Well, I'm glad she doesn't get it.
We don't want her to get it.
She's the breadwinner around here.
I'm just this NFT guy.
Hell yeah, bro.
I love that.
That's my goal in life.
I want to be the breadwinner so Papa can sit back and chill and build shit for fun.
That's the goal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got a lot of work to do, though, I think.
Shit.
No, it's kind of cool, though.
I don't know if you saw, babe, but I actually was approached today and I'm going to be doing.
What happened, you guys? Oh, sorry.
My mom was yelling outside to everybody who's running through the house as if some emergency happens.
I was like, what the fuck's going on? Anyway, I lost my train of thought, you guys.
Damn it.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
The problem is you never even got to the subject,
so we don't know how to remind you.
I just remembered.
I was saying, because we were talking about money
and being the breadwinner, and I was telling Papa,
I'm excited, I actually got approached today
about having a meeting next week on some account health.
So people are interested in trying to find out how they can get their accounts and better standings and possibly the monetization journey.
So I got to come up with some kind of money for that.
Not money to pay people, obviously, but how do you guys do that? Like,
if you're on the business side, how do you work things out? Like, I've never, I've never worked.
So how do you guys do it to where you're like, okay, this is how much I deserve for this much?
Like, do you find out if, because it's not something I can just be like, oh, well, the
carpenters in my area make $26 an hour for me to compare them.
Does that make sense?
Because what I do is just a little bit different.
When I very first started my photographic career back in 2003, I decided I would charge $50 an hour because I was earning $25 an hour before that.
because I was earning $25 an hour before that.
This is New Zealand dollars, so that's like five cents.
And so for about a year, I was charging 50 bucks an hour.
And then I joined a networking group to build my business,
and the accountant started talking to me, and I spilled all my beans.
And he was like, okay, have you ever worked out backwards
how much you need to earn in a year in order to you know pay your bills
you know upgrade your camera buy a new computer you know spend money on the car you know travel
whatever whatever you have to do for your job or whatever you want to take out personally and so I
did that and immediately realized I was a complete fool and put my prices up to 150 bucks an hour
for photography services and people kept paying.
And so I had been short selling my service just because I thought I was getting double what I was
getting before. So that was a good value. And yet I hadn't actually sat down. So it depends if
you're just providing a service, um, like a one-off or, you know, every now and then, then you can
just pick a number and pick a number that you're happy with and go for it.
But if you're actually providing a business,
you do need to work backwards and figure out what your costs are
and how much your company needs to make
and just work back from that and do it that way.
That's a good idea.
Sorry.
I think the...
I was waiting for you to be.
Okay. Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
The other thing is also like the alternative version of your time.
So like, for example, doing whatever you're, you might be offering to do that.
So if you don't know what that is, well, if you look at your time, you're like, well,
I could go down to, know i don't know work
the at a call center or something like that and and get paid 20 and well if i can get the same or
more than that then sure okay um i guess it's worth that just like for me if if you know people
are like well hey can can you build this or do this and like well okay but my my time is you know, people are like, well, hey, can you build this or do this? And I'm like, well, okay. But my time is, you know, I could be, I could do this for, you know,
whatever amount.
And I was like, I mean, you might not want to pay that.
But, you know, that's what my time is basically worth, in my opinion.
Yeah.
And obviously there's the, like, when you think about time of like what
it would take how much is that um like how much it would effort it would take and then you go okay
well then from there that's why i like and and then there's the the value um argument like if
you want to trade your time for money directly then then that's fine too but you
could just say because i remember working at a tv repair shop back in the 90s and that was one of my
first jobs and i went and i was the delivery guy so i had to go into work pick up all whatever
appliances had been fixed by this company and drive them around and install them so i was like
installing vcrs and tuning them into the terrestrial television signal.
And, you know, and I remember this guy came in once with this broken thing.
I might've been a stereo system and my boss took, took the money like that you had to
pay a deposit upfront, um, took it out the back, uh, fixed it, brought it back and charged
the guy like 160 bucks.
And he'd said to him, I'll just,
don't worry, just I'll be back soon. And, and the guy and I were both like, what 160 bucks,
it took you like 10 minutes. And he was like, yeah, the issue is though, that, that I've been doing this for so long that when I see this fault, I know exactly what is wrong and I can go out and
fix it quick. So not only have I saved you time I've also fixed
the thing that was broken and I did that through the knowledge I knew and so the value is there
and the guy was like oh yeah okay fair enough and that to me was a real big life lesson and
if you go about simply swapping time for dollars you could be seriously underselling the value that you bring to the transaction.
That's true. Like if you're saying like if, if one, for example, one simple act will save them thousands of dollars a day or whatever, right? Then of course, you can be like, well, sure, they're willing to pay, you know, a lot larger than it would be take for like the effort right um likewise the
like what was the way that they put it like oh why did you charge 500 for for something that
took five minutes well it was it was you know 20 bucks to fix it but 480 to know how to fix it quickly that's the same can be said in the
automotive world um i've ran into that before you know and it's like you know you go to a shop
to get spark plugs done on your new car and it costs you 1200 you know um mainly because labor
rates so high but then i do it on the side and i'm like you know
i'll do it for 350 bucks you know you buy the part i'll do it for 350. they come over my house
i get it done in an hour you know and it's like well that didn't take that long i'm like yeah but
i've been working on cars for 10 years specifically your exact model. And I've learned the shortcuts. I've learned how to do it
quickly and efficiently without fucking anything up. And there really is value in experience that
sometimes people don't understand that right away. But I feel like if you explain it to the
right person, they get it. But at the end of the day, I just saved them, what, like almost $1,100 or $800, you know?
So it's a win-win for everybody.
Yeah.
Now that makes sense.
I think it's hard for me.
First of all, lack of confidence.
Secondly, I feel like everybody's time is so much more valuable than mine.
Thirdly, it's not something that saves the money necessarily.
It's more of a longer term play.
But that's just my belief
with this application because I'm like, I think it's going to become to where it's hard to get
monetized. And I've already seen that transition happen over the last seven months, but it's
something that could actually make them money. So whether it's just covering their subscriptions
or whether it's bringing more eyes to their
project, whether it is bringing them more opportunities because people love green accounts.
You know, if your account is hitting nice, people will hit you up and ask you, hey, will
you show this?
Hey, will you do this?
So it does offer other things, but it's very hard to explain that to somebody.
And there's no base.
You know what I mean? Like there's no numbers where I can be like, all right, bro. This is,
for this account I just finished, I got the 1,000% in the last seven days. I got them 1,000%
more views on their profile visits. To me, that's gold. You know, I got them 103 followers every day for the
last eight days because of that consistency. I got, you know, your impressions, so now you're
eligible, but it's really hard to, and it's hard to explain to people how their account's going to
move, and everybody's looking for something different. So I just have to figure out a way to,
I don't know. What's up, big man?
How are you this day?
Hey, mama bear.
Hey, papa bear.
I hope everybody is doing well.
I'm doing pretty good.
It's always a little bit sad when little man goes back, but we had a nice long week.
And, you know, it was fun.
I kind of liked what zero credit, no credit, sorry, not zero credits, no credits had said.
Always zero credits, bro it said um you know always zero credits bro yeah right uh
about um looking at it from a yearly thing and i know in your particular instance it's really
important it's different too right so like looking at the whole year and then also realizing like
what type of clientele you have or like what your specialty is on discovering that underlining value, right? That's what that
really is. So in my opinion, I think for what you do, coming up with a good flat rate would be okay,
right? Or like, depending on maybe specialties, like I like tier packaging, because then you can
offer all these little extra things, bibs and bobs.
You know what I mean?
And then you can also slide a couple in for free when you feel like I was just doing that to be nice.
You know, and it it kind of it shows that value transparency right there, too.
So I I don't know.
I didn't realize at first we were talking about monetizing and what you were doing.
But I think that might be a good approach for you.
But all around, yeah, that
cost to production analysis, right? Whether you're buying materials to paint or to build a house or
whatever you're doing, you have to figure out the overhead costs, what the, you know, you can do
some demographic work, but overall it comes down to that. And then what you value your time and
skill at, right? And then like no credit said too, like if you're OK with it, you're OK with it.
Like if you could pay your bills, you could do everything you did. I mean, a good deal is a good deal. That's the way I see it.
As long as both parties are accepted and are happy with it at the time and every all the arrangements are met like that are accounted for. Right. Then, you know, it's a good deal.
arrangements are met, like that are accounted for, right, then, you know, that's a good deal.
Oh, yeah. No, I totally agree with you. I think, I mean, I remember, I remember actually starting a
barter Facebook page, and that shit went crazy. And I'm not kidding you guys, we had over like
5,000 people, and it was just very local. But I mean, you never know what somebody needs. We were
having people, and this is before COVID, you guys,
people would be bartering toilet paper and home, you know,
home things like, oh, should I actually bought too much of this?
But man, I want that dresser that dude's got.
What can I put together to do that?
You know, so I'm, I just, I think it's cool.
I don't know why the hell I said that. But Tricky, you have your hand up.
Hey, Tricky Buddha.
It's Tricky Buddha from
Defy Space Donkeys.
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Get yourself a bag of weed.
What's up, Mama Bear?
You're almost there. You're sounding a little better.
Would you still sound bad?
Thanks.
I feel bad. I feel fine.
No, seriously, you feeling better?
Yeah, I feel a little better.
Yeah, that's good.
I think you got no credit sick, too.
Just so you know.
I don't know if you guys were hanging out or on a call or what happened, but he's sick, too.
Bro, you got to stop kissing me online.
You do?
I just feel contagious.
I just go from space to space without pants on.
I mean, I don't know what you guys expect.
Fuck a mask.
There's no pants, bro.
I was here when you guys were talking about hourly wage and time.
Hold on a second.
You know, that's what COVID did.
It created a place where we can walk around with no pants on.
Just like Ricky said.
That's basically why I got into Web3 is because I just, you know, I needed a place to work from home.
That's just one of the only perks is that, you know, fuck pants.
It's Florida, man.
Not having to wear pants is like seriously the number one thing that gets most people jealous about like working from home.
You know, what's the best thing about working from home? oh in florida that's a great idea you know ac is
expensive um okay so uh but hourly wage is funny because when i graduated i was like um ten dollars
an hour and i was i would just call myself a research assistant like a data analyst that's
all i was you know and i would make financial models and stuff and, you know, I could punch up info,
but I was still just learning, you know,
10 bucks an hour.
And I started doing like projects
and people's homework mostly.
And then I, you know, graduated
and I started raising the rate
and I gave myself a little raise.
I mean, I turned it to 20 and then 25.
And then I was like, I got more chronically ill.
And I, so I ran out of time.
So now I have less time, but I have more expenses.
And I'm like, well, I don't know what it's going to have to be.
You know what I mean?
But it is what it is.
You do the math, and you figure out, well, what expenses do you need to be efficient and good at what you're doing?
Not just barely make it by.
To actually enjoy your job and and good at what you're doing, not just barely make it by. To actually
enjoy your job and be good at it, what does it realistically cost to do this thing? Now, maybe
your rate is higher than other people's, but you get what you pay for, and if they're not paying
you to enjoy your job, what's the point of doing it kind Kind of thing right also I completely unrelated note
I like to do these spaces where we all team up and we help each other get monetized we
Ray top posts together. We each also raid each other's posts in a very organized fashion
I help you make content and then we destroy it right
And if we all gang up on on each other's stuff and do that in the right pattern
we can boost all our accounts and
All multiply multiply all those views for each one of us and I'll just I'll tell you guys all my tricks and we'll literally do them live
And if you're in there with the account that you want to get monetized at a time
It might be a really good beneficial thing,
especially if you've already put in like three or four days of consistent work
and then you do this, that's the cream of the crop right there.
It is.
Crème de la crème.
It is for sure.
Yeah, I used to have spaces where we would all move together as one.
And that's actually how I started my space.
I think, I don't remember if it was always
presently present, but I used to do it by myself. I think it was probably like, you think it was
like 15 episodes in Bay before you came in? Yeah, I was usually listening, but. Yeah, yeah. And so
that's what we would do. We would just do nothing but money post. And I was helping so many people for sure.
Like it was crazy.
Super fast paced.
I'd just throw it up in the jumbotron.
We'd go the next, go the next, go the next.
And I do, I think it's a great plan to do those kind of things or even have community
get togethers where we just, you know, kind of move as one and get those impressions.
I used to have lists that I had, you know, like published or, you know what I mean, like not private, open for anybody, but they kept getting flagged.
And I just got frustrated with the whole situation, especially after I had been paused on my monetization.
monetization. And I've just tried to trim the fat in every way that I can so that my account
can either one day become unpaused or I'm actually working on my other account right now to get it
monetized. So, but you're totally right. There's so many things out there. It's just the lack of
consistency. And it's really, it's not as easy as a lot of people make it seem, you know, if you
don't have the time is what I'm saying.
We're going to say something, Papa.
No, I know it's something Papa would never do. Right. It's not, it's not worth his time.
But yeah, I think that I like a flat rate though for, for certain jobs. Like big man said,
a flat rate is really good because for one, it's clear what you're getting from both sides.
Right. And if you want to slack off that day or rush through, put in the extra work and really get it.
You know what I mean? Like you have that prerogative to do it either way.
And then when it comes down to it is like you pick a market fair rate and whatever that flat market fair rate is, it is what it is. And if you guess it properly and get lucky sometimes, you make extra money.
You just got to make sure no matter what, you don't go in the red.
Usually for a lot of construction jobs and stuff like that and independent contracts and government bids,
they will do like up to 20% to 100% of supplies, right?
And added to it plus the labor charges.
And then they have administrative overhead fees and stuff like that.
So you can break it down to see exactly what's going to help like pay the bill,
what is actually just accounting, what's taxes.
And everything is very clearly because when you start dealing with those big numbers,
it's just hard to keep track of anything.
And let alone like you can be like, I'm paying a lot for this thing.
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's true.
That's true.
Oh, big man has his hand up.
Yeah, just wanted to touch.
Sorry, I just wanted to touch on my father.
He does like private contracting work kind of through somebody else.
But basically his rate is
double whatever the cost of the material is for the most part and like that's just because he's
got a lot of time and skills so he knows that he can pretty much do most jobs for that in an
efficient amount of time sometimes it gives them a break sometimes he gets more money it kind of
goes both ways um it's just an easy quick quick rule of thumb. So like if it costs $2,000 for your glass
door to be to like, to get delivered, dropped off in the material, it's going to cost you $4,000,
probably $200, $4,200, a little service fee in there with it in order to put the door in. But
it'll be done in like four hours sometimes, you know, depending on the job. So it really depends
on the work level skill mindset too. Well, and I know that people will pay for consist or for convenience. And I think
that that's one thing that I don't know, I can't equate that to anything that I do. I don't think
yet. But, you know, convenience is huge. There, there's this dude actually out on our one of our
main roads now. And this is newer to our area.
I've always seen this in, like, California, definitely in Texas.
But they'll actually be, like, hustling on the side of the road, right?
This dude's got a big old bucket, and he's selling flowers.
Probably went over to Costco, you know, bunched them up into 20.
He's selling them for 20 bucks a pop when you could go into Costco and buy them for 12,
right? So he's working smart right there, but it is about that convenience. It's dude driving on
his way, you know, on his way home, stayed up too late the night before watching the game,
old lady's pissed at him, and he wants to show up with flowers, but had forgotten to stop or
anniversary, whatever it is, and he's like, Oh, shit, that 20 in my pocket
still, you know, so I do understand that people do pay for convenience, too. And we pay really
high prices for convenience, and laziness. And that's one thing people do make a lot of money
off of is just other people's lack of want or drive. Sometimes so. Okay. Can I throw a USD price out there for what you do?
And you tell me if you think it's low or high. Yeah, sure. Like, like, I don't know, it depends
to like some accounts may vary and stuff like that. But I'm gonna I'm gonna average it around
like 125. You know, per per monetization, right? Like, you know, know it's at least 125 for you to get up there and
monetize their account and i don't know the rules on monetization i don't know if they get
grandfathered in or if they have to upkeep with that and stuff um if there's any upkeep and stuff
that could be like a maintenance service like once a month i'll go and make sure that you're
still monetized and stuff for an extra
50 a month or something like that like you know almost like subscriptions damn dog i'm thinking
a thousand bucks bro oh all right see see that's what i'm saying bro i was low-balling it you know
what i mean like fucking mama bear could be raking in the dough over here she's helping out so many
people doing that too though like you know so like i see it i see it and then that would if you
started at that right that would get you to see the serious people. And then you could help
out the people you still want to help out. You know what I'm saying? You always got wiggle room
for that. Sorry, you guys, I was rugged. So I can tell you, big man, the last account that I pushed
for once, Papa had me keep track. I am so shitty at keeping track of hours. But I started doing like this little timer just so I could get an understanding because I don't fucking know, bro.
I'll be like, oh, how fast did you get that account done?
Oh, eight days.
Oh, 12 days.
Oh, 16 days.
And he's like, holy shit.
Some people take three months to get to that five million impressions.
And then he's like, okay, but how many hours did you spend? I'm like, I don't fucking know. So I started doing that.
I started doing the timer. This was my first one that I actually can scale. And it took me 49 hours.
All right. So yeah, Jed's on point. It's closer to $1,000. You know what I mean? Definitely. In
my opinion, that's a 40 hour work week right there. If I'm going to get you monetized,
that's what it should be for you. And again, you can work out with the people you want to help out with, do whatever you want.
But that should be like, in my head, that point, right?
$750 to $1,000.
It's 49 hours worth of work.
That's crazy, mama bear.
And I'm just pushing that bitch.
And the problem is that it's not like, I don't know, say that, I don't know.
Have you guys ever seen Let's Go Back to Convenience? You go to Ikea. And the problem is, is that it's not like, I don't know, say that, I don't know, have
you guys ever seen, let's go back to convenience.
You go to Ikea, you order something online and they're like, all right, you see this?
This is 1,232 pieces and you're going to want to shoot, no, I shouldn't have just said that
word.
You're going to want to bang your head into the wall after you're done, if you even get
bang your head into the wall after you're done if you even get it done, right? So for a convenience
it done, right?
charge of an additional $122, I'll put that bitch together for you and deliver it and set it up.
Fucking bet, bro, right? So it's funny because I, and so that equating that to moving an account,
when you start really priming an account and you get it to move, I can't slack
off. Like I can't, I might be able to sleep, but I am immediately in that account again, because I
need those numbers to continue to roll because I'm pushing out into the algorithm. So those 49 hours,
I would say was pretty, it wasn't straight clearly clearly, because I love my sleep. But it is a very
push job. Like there's no, and I have to be careful. I have to be careful what my responses
are. I have to be careful that they're not spammy. I have to be careful what I engage with. I have to
be mindful because if I fuck up that person's account, that's that's on me. You know, what's
up, big man? I was just was just wondering like so there's like
no snail mode on it like once you get to that point that's it you got to keep pushing it so
even that tiered idea that's what my idea was going to be like you could do the slow roll you
know and then you could do like we got the walking dog and then we got the jack rabbit you know that's
like you know fantastic oh i like that bro you want your shit done in a week. Let's fucking go.
You pay 2,500 for that shit. No, like I don't. And that's probably the other thing is I don't
go slow mode because there's just not a way to do it. In my opinion, if I'm going to hit an account,
I'm going to get it really primed. I have only turned away one person after i got in their account and i could not push
it and it turned out it was botted to hell couldn't do it wasn't it was just too much on me
and i had already put in quite a bit of time there's like a social score like it sounds like
funny so there's a social equity score your account has so if someone has totally just been
like a bot or they bought an account that had a bunch of followers so they could like cheat the system.
Well, guess what?
That person might have got there with bots or they could have just been a racist.
You don't know.
So you could have no social score at all.
You are there with like 100,000 or a million follower account that goes nowhere and nobody sees it because you bought the system for too long.
Dude, the amount
of bots that I have seen have been...
I mean, it's embarrassing.
It's like...
I don't even know how to equate this. You're out
and you know those one guys that talk
about what they're packing?
It's kind of like one of those situations.
And then I get into the room and I'm like,
you're fucking kidding me right now,
right, bro?
Your account shows that you have 286,000 followers, but you're kidding me, right?
Oh, no, I don't bought it anymore, mama.
Bro, you are getting an average of 1.7 thousand new followers a day from bots.
Don't tell me these aren't bots.
I can see it.
It's so annoying. Well, I mean, depending on what you're doing, you get flooded with bots for certain activities, right? For some for scams, some for them trying to get like right of your
coattails in various ways for the access to the other networks. You know, like there's all,
there's a whole bunch of things that there are reasons why you get bot accounts
Or at a certain point they kind of give up and I constantly remove them
I went but I hadn't been doing it in a while other than manually
I've never done it any other way than manually because you do everything manual. I'm still too fast
They think I'm a bop anyway, so like I just have to be, I have to like literally count between steps.
That's why I'll be multitasking like five things at once because I can only do certain, some things every one second.
That sounds like a funny problem to have, right?
It does sound like a funny problem to have.
Yeah, exact.
That is a wizard problem.
We were just talking about you, Silky and I, on our space the other day about how you're a fucking wizard. And by the way, did Liquid ever get a hold of you? I have to say this because I'm going to forget it.
Liquid is, has been, I'm not going to go into too much detail because that's inappropriate. I'm going to say what he said on space. He has been dealing with some medical issues that are very
similar to you and he's looking
for natural alternatives.
Yeah. Okay, cool.
So I'm going to message you.
I did, but I didn't know if y'all
had messaged and I
want to give you his
name. You know what I mean?
So I'll message it to you. Yeah, awesome.
I love the opportunity to
help somebody with that shit i knew you would and you guys are gonna get along so well tricky
awesome awesome yeah i love helping people it's really cool to like be able to
that's the thing it's so shitty like basically thinking you're dying so uh you like you give
up on so many things and finally coming out of the other end of that and knowing like
what i if i knew what i knew now i could easily save myself like five years
right instead of just like you know 10 15 year downward spiral it could have easily just been
five you know like i learned it enough in five years the other part was just unnecessary torture
and trauma i think probably yeah but isn't it interesting that sometimes
we're dealt that hand like some people oh some people can just fly down the freeway and be
cutting lanes and shit and they don't get pulled over but my ass just one time wants to take the
lane a little longer and and i get popped right it's like why the fuck did i just get caught for
that shit i don't know i always wonder about that is there something about our energy that allows some people just to skate through fucking life well well this there's there's
some people who will just miss it or mr bean it right and there's also some people who you don't
know what's going through their head either way this person that person was obviously a total
asshole but might also have been like a race car driver had like expert level
They go ability to navigate that car and he has good cop radar
So he knew exactly where the cop would have been hanging out. You know what I mean? That was me
I'm sorry if I cut you off, but I'm saying there's more to the story
You don't know what is in his trunk. You've no idea what in performance enhancing drugs. He's on you know
I mean like this There could be a
lot more to the story.
So you never know what problems
they're dealing with. Cut him some slack. Maybe
it's a bad day. He's got to get to the hospital.
Who knows? Could you be
my local officer? I'd really appreciate
your time.
Yo, tricky.
I'm on that t-shirt, bro. It's either
bots or you're a racist that was wild
oh god i like a i get called a bot a lot like for for various reasons, you know, and I just, I've come to one final conclusion as a response.
They call me a bot and I go, I'm not a bot.
I'm just a fucking machine.
That's amazing.
I saw EAC jump up here.
How are you?
Oh, yeah.
I had to come up and say hi to everyone.
And I wanted to add to that, too. I think like luck is just a factor like that you cannot calculate ever like it's just timing. And it's just part of part of life.
It's a probability curve with that quantum field, like, which is kind of just like a randomizer.
like, which is kind of just like a randomizer.
Yeah, I was going to say, though, like, I don't know if you guys have ever dealt with this, but
like you were saying about all the trials and tribulations that you've been through,
and now you like to help others so that they don't have to do that or so that they feel
like, oh my gosh, there's somebody else who has been through this. And that's what we
gravitate towards as humans in general, whether it's from a toxic relationship standpoint or a job standpoint, or me asking you
guys' opinions as far as like, how do you know your worth? How do you scale something? I've never
been a business person, but I'm just curious, do you guys think that there are certain people in this world who just don't ever have to put in that much work?
Is that because they've already been through this so many times?
Do you know what I mean?
Or are there there's always somebody out there who's just they cannot fucking win.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
It's really there's like eight billion of us so every little every possibility is being
played out and we all have cameras now so you're seeing all of it so there's always that one in a
million ant that like the you know the whole thing exploded but that guy was under the wrong like the
right leaf or something like that he's the only one left he's like the guys are never gonna believe this i've seen people i've seen people fail up in the most
massive display of like chaos you just never know you never know yeah that's awesome it reminds me
of that um if you guys saw that recent plane crash, there was one person that made it.
And Papa actually told me that the, what was his seat, babe?
11A or something?
Do you remember?
I don't remember the exact number.
Yeah.
It's been twice, my man, yeah?
Yeah.
Two times someone sitting in 11A has been the only survivor of a plane crash.
Holy shit.
Yeah, so it's like the most sought-after seat on every airplane now.
Oh, look at that, though.
Oh, trip out.
Okay, that just came to me.
11, and then A is the first letter in the alphabet, so it's 111.
That's why it's an angel.
It's in a good crux where the where the further wing attachment
But anyway, um, the tail actually is the most solid piece of the whole plane
But if you actually did the calculate statistics though of how many planes get into an accident and crash
And how many of those people in 11 a lived versus died and then you cross reference that with like just also the statistics
of a plane crash versus walking down the street or like just opening your door on in la on a given
day like the numbers just kind of like irrelevant yeah that's really a long explanation for the
numbers are irrelevant i would say like you know
like what i'm saying it's luck there's luck involved but like there's a reason that there's
the certain poker stars win every time or or a lot of the time and like it's and it's the same with
life that uh there's skill involved which which increases luck, but it's like, there's no simple solution
for anything or reason why. Do you think that EAC, do you also think that it's an energy thing?
So if somebody has a different mindset, like you said, a skill, but do you also think that,
that it's a type of energy? Like if you're putting out a certain energy, then maybe you're able to
get through a situation in a, in an easier way or in a more protected
way. So I've heard the saying recently that if you're putting out, oh, I'm never winning,
I'm never winning, you'll draw those people that also have that same mindset and then you're like stuck in this loop of never winning.
So yeah, like, I mean, yeah, there's entered, like there's,
there's definitely like, that's a factor of your, your own mindset. I mean, like if you believe you can, then you can, but like, I mean,
if you believe you can jump off a building and fly, I mean, you just can't.
Yeah. That might not work out so well.
My uncle actually tried that. That was sad. No, no, you just can't. Yeah, that might not work out so well. My uncle actually
tried that. That was sad. No, no, he didn't die. You guys, it was just a trip. We were at a beach.
Maybe I shouldn't tell the story. Anyways, my uncle, I were set up ever. It really was bro. He,
he did, he thought he could fly. He was very high.
Paramedics came.
He ended up being okay.
So he handed us all hundred dollar bills on our way, you know, on his way to the, to the doctor.
He was okay.
He was calmed down by then.
But yeah, flying does not work as humans. So you're in a silver coin?
Like he was trying to-
No, he was so rich.
So he was really naughty.
So he was so rich. He just started pulling out hundreds and handing them to each of us kids. And he was like rich so he was really naughty um so he was so rich he just started pulling out
hundreds and handing them to each of us kids and he was like here you go sweetheart make sure you
guys go hang out yeah it was i want to be so rich that when i give people money they're thinking did
he do something wrong what is he oh god no we knew he did something wrong. We had, we had, uh, what's it?
The DEA and the FBI.
FBI showed up to my school, which was very, very embarrassing.
So, you know, it was big stuff.
By the way, I just, we're speaking of 11s.
Yes, I love 11s, babe.
Yeah, I was looking back through history
and apparently the first day
that we
actually
retitled the space
Presently Present with Mama and Papa
was on 1111.
Whoa.
That's fucking dope,
babe. See, I love that kind of stuff.
Synchronicities holy shit babs is
gonna be so fucking proud of me oh my god babs if you're another listener okay you guys we're we're
reading a book together what how do you call it babe the celestial something
celestine prophecies i suck at words um i have not really started it yet i am attempting to
listen to it.
Um, and we have our book circle at the GPC. If anybody's interested, her and I are doing that
shit. Um, and she told me that since I haven't read very much that maybe this week we can very
gently, um, listen to and pay attention to synchronicities and fucking A that just happened.
attention to synchronicities and fucking a that just happened i'm so excited
babs is gonna be so proud you know you're cool and babs is proud of you i'm just saying babs is
so cool and babe did you get a message from her i think so okay so um brownie with, oh, fuck, Chad Ops. Yes.
Chad Ops actually has something in their Discord, and it's very,
I think it's the Chad Shop or the Squid Shop.
I don't fucking know.
It's some shop, but I guess you guys, they do, like, brain teasers and stuff,
and she was saying that you would really like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, she was definitely, there was that whole triangles thing.
Yeah, dude, I don't i do yeah yeah
yeah yeah you should enjoy that so yeah so she had actually sent you oh toast is here
oh it's good toast i love when toast shows up and pads is here and ken is here look at all these
fucking legends what's good good, you guys?
We got salt.eth.
I'm dropping this right now.
Salt has a space soon, you guys.
And I would love for us to show some support. He's actually doing the Solana Dead's Rising episode 6.
Web 3 is not a spectator sport.
I'm fucking sure, bro.
I've seen that today.
A lot of people got liquidated today.
It's not funny.
I don't know why I just laughed at that.
It's actually very sad.
But, you know, the game, right, Joe Mama?
It wasn't you.
I would be so upset if I had the opposite position right now.
I bet you would.
I bet you would.
My youngest, he actually came out. He's like, did you see that
God candle? I'm like, hell yeah, I did. And like I said, we were all like talking about Bitcoin.
And he's like, I go, did you take a long? He's like, yeah, but I made 50 bucks. And I'm like,
hell yeah. And then he's like, then I was up like, I forget what he said. Anyways, up over $100. And then he said, and it went down to $4 real quick.
I was like, oh, shit.
$4, that is.
So it's okay.
At least you didn't.
You know, it is what it is.
But I still think it's funny what my granddaughter said.
Yeah, I got like $100 into an account the other day.
I was like yesterday.
I think it was last night.
And I was like, I don't know why. But I was like, I don't know why but I don't fucking do this I hate I hate leverage. I don't recommend anybody ever leverage trade like don't fucking do it
It's just gambling unless you really really know what you're doing and most people have no idea what they're doing
Let's just be honest. Do you have a finance degree? Have you been trading for a while?
Are you a certified day trader with like 25,000 plus in assets that you've been doing?
Okay, go right ahead.
If not, please ignore this story.
And it's just entertainment only.
95% lose.
That's why brokers make money.
Yeah, it is definitely hard to make money actually trading here.
It is definitely hard to make money actually trading here.
So anyway, last night I put $100 in and I played with a couple little 30x leverage.
And I made like $15 or $16.
And like, I don't know, while I was watching a show, I was just kind of bored.
tennis show i was just kind of bored i don't know so i like this hand's not doing anything
I don't know.
So I was like, this hand's not doing anything.
anyway so i go to i went to go to sleep and i i was like well i better i better get out of this
position and i looked at it and i was like okay i'm gonna do this and i woke up and i was like
oh my god am i still in a position and i and i picked it up and it's like i was up 100 bucks
i was like oh okay all right well that's
cool toast blow smoke in her ear if you smoke cigarettes blow smoke in her ears it helps
you're gonna think I'm crazy but it's the fucking truth
unless they're allergic to tobacco probably that. That would be bad. That would be bad.
I know.
You guys, I shouldn't have just said that out loud.
I should have just fucking texted it to him.
Son of a bitch.
I was trying to be presently present and respond to him.
But I used to do that for my boys when they had ear infections.
I would blow smoke in their ears or have other people because I never smoked.
So, yeah.
Oh, you're talking about like turn the cigarette butt in the ear and then blow
that's all i think you should do it yeah exactly it helps doesn't it joe mama i know it does bro
yeah i heard some shit about that yep yep exactly and nicotine's also a local anesthetic as well
yeah i don't know if it's necessarily the best option, given what you're trying to accomplish.
Hey, man, you get a bee sting, they used to take chew and spit that shit right out on it.
You know what I mean?
It used to work.
You know what I'm saying?
In World War I, they used to just glue people back together if they got shot with something, like sealed with a crino acrylate.
But that didn't work, Ricky.
It works great, man.
I've done that in like during camping things
and like, well, climbing trees and stuff like that.
You know what else works really well?
If you're bleeding out,
bring a caulking gun with you no matter where you go.
You just fucking get that caulking ready
and you just put it in the hole.
I'm carrying it around.
Not medical advice?
Definitely not.
Don't ever take what i say as medical advice between me choking
on my ice the other day and then me telling somebody in that i care about to go blow smoke
in his child's ear this is fucking fantastic this is my leg. Can I use the expanding foam? Yes, please.
Yeah.
It actually makes the bones together again. If you have a compound fracture, it's on, bro.
It's the smartest ever.
I would recommend Gorilla Glue brand, though, because it's the strongest.
I've actually seen people do shit.
You guys ever seen some really bad Bondo jobs?
Oh, my God.
Bondo jobs.
You guys never wanted to sell me a car because I knew what to look for.
I'm like, you got me fucked up, bro.
You're like, no, no, it's good.
It's patched up.
I'm like, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, slap some mud on there.
That's what you did.
You worked real hard to sand that out when you were real high.
I know.
I know how this works.
Dumb asses.
Girls can be smart too.
Okay, babe, I'm stopping to give people medical advice.
Babe, have I ever done anything to hurt you medically come on i have such good intuition
i actually should have been a fucking doctor you know that i still have a scar
this time a girl threw a knife at me that is not very nice
i guess technically i didn't have adverse effects to you.
you drugging me with that,
you know,
herbal,
herbal Viagra thing.
This again.
You know,
on my book.
He got you in a honey pack.
I don't know what the heck it was.
It was whatever you get at the gas station or whatever.
I don't know. It's just like here. It whatever you get at the gas station or whatever. I don't know.
It's just like, here, it's herbal.
It's immune remedy stuff.
People are getting sick in here.
Here, just take these.
And then we went to Fred Meyer, and Papa's getting all excited about some comforters.
I'm like, what the fuck is happening here?
We got to go back to the comforter section again, babe.
I can picture like a green teddy bear just like playing in the sheets.
No, I actually thought I had killed him.
He's like, huh, not feeling very good.
I'm like, what?
And he's like, yeah, I don't know.
My heart feels like it's going a little fast right now and a little sweaty.
And I'm like, oh, my God, you're red.
And I was like, okay, I have to admit something to you
He's like
Wait mama bae
Was it really a honey pack from a gas station
No it was
I don't know if that's what they call it
I don't know but it's like a
Natural viagra
And I thought it was
Oh yeah yeah
We had just met And i thought it was oh yeah yeah no yeah we had just met and i thought it was funny i was like i'm about to fuck with this dude
hard leave it's the ginseng with you let me see if i remember because that's what i'm picturing
dude those were so big on college campuses everywhere people would like eat those and then go like pre-workout like
all freaking yeah oh yeah dude papa was jacked i was like what's going on babe and he's like
not loud and he's like i don't know i don't know if i'm feeling all right and i was like okay i
have to admit to you at that medicine i gave you it was just a joke but you don't have any
heart complications do you like do't have any heart complications, do you? Like, do you have any heart history?
Asks Papa Bear after Papa Bear. I think she tried
to poison you, my guy. You have Stockholm
Syndrome, don't you? No, I'm just joking.
You blink
twice. Spam the 100
if you...
Everybody spam the 100 if you think Papa's
not safe.
Oh, God, Dave.
Why do you always have to tell people this shit?
God.
Is it energy drink or is it ginseng?
It was a packet of pills.
The new dangers of gas station erection pills revealed.
Yes.
Yes, it's going to be in one of my, it's going to be a chapter in my book for sure.
It's going to dedicate a whole chapter to it.
Wow.
It means well, but I'm getting it in my heart.
Toast just messaged me.
He's like, no way the comforter story comes up.
See, everybody knows about the comforter story.
Everyone has a comforter story. Everyone has a comforter story.
Everybody has a comforter story.
Oh, God.
All right.
Well, I appreciate the laugh, you guys.
I needed that.
That's great game.
What's the worst movie you had an adult experience in?
Like, most inappropriate.
Oh, Papa's taking this. Oh man came off fucking go yeah uh american reunion i was at this showing at the theater with my parents and my girlfriend at the time also my
son's mom parents and that was the first good yes this was the first movie though like where you
really saw a penis up front.
And it's when he closes his dick with the top of the pot when you're going to simmer it.
It's like the clear glass one.
So all you saw was this man's balls and cock just mushed up against this glass thing.
I'm with my parents and my girlfriend.
It's a funny, embarrassing type moment.
It was good.
It was a good time.
Wait, what is this movie called?'m gonna write this down uh it was the it was in the american pie series i think it's the american reunion oh shit okay that's awesome
i would say i just remembered mine now i would say um when my boys were younger um we got into
game of thrones and that is soft porn, by the way. Like me and my children
were watching this. I've got three young teenage boys and they're like, mom, I'm like, what? And
you know, pretending like it's no big deal. But yeah, yeah, that was, that was tough for sure.
Being a single mom. What are you watching at home with your mom yeah that was probably not
yeah that was soft porn bro it was real how about you papa
no is this like what happened in the movie or like oh where you got a little
i don't know it's your story. This is a safe space for you, honey.
No, I mean, yeah, no, it's the, you did something adult in a movie that maybe that probably wasn't the best place for you to do that adult thing.
Oh, he's talking about that.
Wow, I didn't answer that question right.
Take that my last answer.
Fuck, please don't, please don't take that my last answer. Now I sound like a fucking Epstein lister.
Now I sound like a fucking Epstein
lister.
No, so
I don't know that I can actually say it
with a, like...
Oh, say it. Please say it.
Text it to me and I'll say it.
You just gotta say the name of the movie.
Oh, um...
Nokia.
What?
Wait, you just lie and your nose gets bigger?
There's something about this movie, honey
It's got me thinking
But Papa
Lie to me!
But Papa, I have a question
Does Pinocchio have wooden balls?
I've never looked
That wasn't in the movie.
They're not blue. But I would assume.
Oh, man. I don't know how to play this stupid
game. Whatever. Fuck your game, bro.
We're doing something cool on our 300th.
I think we are going to...
What is that game, babe?
I just want to say Ice Age 2
Oh, Ice Age 2
Dude, I like the little squirrel
Papa, what's that game we're playing?
Two truths and a lie, right?
Is that what you call it?
Yeah, I think so
I'm going to fucking smoke all of you.
You guys have no idea.
I'm excited about this.
It's going to be good.
Yeah, we got to make sure everybody in the GPC knows.
That's on the 14th, right, babe?
But we might do it on the 13th?
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what we'll end up doing it.
Yeah, but we're going to do it.
It's going to be good, and it's coming up.
So I just want as many people here as possible.
It'll be fun.
Okay, you guys.
Salt has started his space, and as promised,
I would like to go show him some love and support for the Solana Deads.
Excuse me.
The Solana Deads are still minting, you guys.
I personally love the Deads.
Then we've got the Dragon Punks right now that have their Rot Wings.
If you guys are a Dragon Punk holder, you guys had an opportunity to mint those for free.
I've gotten some pretty dope ones.
Papa has as well.
I'm specifically waiting for some numbers.
Don't be trying to jack my shit either.
Don't.
Then you'll see the chocolate.
Well, don't be trying to jack my shit either. Don't. Then you'll see the chocolate.
I'm not saying the number, but you know,
they know probably, fucking fuckers. Okay, you guys. Go ahead,
Papa. Close this out.
Thank you, you guys, for showing up.
Saving me just in time.
We'll be back
again tomorrow at 4 p.m. Papa Standard
Time, 7 o'clock Eastern.
Until then, do something kind for yourself, take it easy,
and make sure you move with intention. And we'll see you tomorrow.
Y'all coming back now, yeah!
