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Presently Present with Mama & Papa 🧸💜🌮 AI talk
Recorded: May 5, 2025 Duration: 2:01:28Space Recording
Short Summary
Rick's takeover of the Mutant Shiba project signals a new era of innovation and community engagement, while the Green Pill Collective's expansion showcases a growing trend towards collaboration and support in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. I think Papa forgot about me today.
Sometimes people get forgotten about.
That's just part of life.
Do you ever think about that?
Like, what if Papa
just forgot about me forever?
Oh, shit.
He's here.
Sorry, Papa.
Nobody could ever forget
about you. Right?
That's what I'm saying, bro.
Yeah.
It's impossible.
I have to say I'm a pretty unforgettable person.
You are unforgettable.
I knew you were going to sing to me.
Especially if that came up there.
So you want...
Do you want a song?
Sure, but will you put our space up in the top so we have a purple pill?
We have a purple pill.
We don't.
We do.
Fine.
I don't see it.
Oh, good.
Okay, but still do it.
Mimer does it.
I did it already.
I know.
I'm cool. I'm good. You I did it already. I know. I'm cool.
I'm good.
You are.
You are.
You are.
Okay.
Are you playing music, though?
I am.
I'm going to.
Enjoy.
I see.
You can't stop me, but maybe you can.
I don't know.
Here we go. go Baby calm down, calm down Tell this your body he puts in my heart for lockdown
For lockdown, oh lockdown
Tell you sweet life, fang down, fang down
If I tell you say I love you, no day for me
Yang down, oh Yang down
No tell me no no no no
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
Baby come give me your lo lo lo lo lo lo lo Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh Baby come give me your lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
You got me like oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
Shawty come give me your lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo
I see this fine girl who phone my party, she way yellow
Every other girl, they do too much but this girl
mellow Now you're married fine situation I go use this
girl a mellow Finally I find way to talk to the girl
but she ain't no one follow Who you going to phone for?
Mmmmm Oh you know what go for?
Mmmmm Then I start to feel a bum bum
Mmmmm Cause she take me small small
I know since she's happy but sit down
Mmmmm Cause she feelin' in sick I know Lips make you cry when I'm moving around you Do it once, do it twice Up and back, you hold me tight
Get a taste for a night
Baby, show me you can come down, come down
Dance with me and take the lead now, lead now
Got you so high that you can't come down, come down
Don't you ask, you know you're allowed, allowed
When it's you, I can't sing now Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh I say this my on I'm gonna go on, I'm gonna go on
Got my hand on your heart now, I can feel it raise
If I leave and you say, can I be love again?
Wanna give you it all, but can't come instead of sleep
And that's what risk you take
Baby, calm down, calm down
Tell this your body he put in my hat for lockdown
For lockdown, for lockdown
Tell you sweet life and down, for down
Even though you say I love you no day for me and down
Oh young girl
No tell me no no no no
Woah woah woah woah woah woah woah
Baby come give me your love love love love love love love love Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I always like it when you surprise me.
Surprise you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I said I like it when you surprise me.
Nice.
I didn't know that you liked that song.
I heard it when I was walking into Panera the other day.
I was like, eh.
It actually kind of reminded me of Zanny since she was one
that was playing that song. Oh, did it?
Okay. I kind of thought you were
going to
go with some
Cinco de Mayo music,
but I like that song too.
You do?
It was also like,
because it was saying calm down, right?
Yeah, and I was like, is he trying to send me a subliminal message?
Yeah.
Calm down.
Right.
You know what we talked about?
Never saying to a woman, calm down.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's a good song.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like I said, what the fuck?
You said that?
No, no, it says Mama Bear is live Should I join or not now?
That's bizarre, maybe I have to leave the space
I'll be right back
No, don't go, don't go
Where's she going?
I'm here, by the way
Dun, dun, dun, dun Here with you, you're not alone Where's she going? I'm here, by the way.
Dun, dun, dun, dun.
Here with you.
You're not alone.
I made it.
Oh, she's done.
And that was a close one.
Right?
That was so bizarre.
Yeah, it brought up this thing across my screen, and it wouldn't let me do anything. And it said, Mama Bear is live.
Would you like to join now or later?
And I'm like, I am Mama Bear.
Oh, trip out on this, you guys.
So first of all, Babs, I'm so sorry that you missed our space yesterday.
It might be worth a little listen back.
I don't often recommend that to people.
I could find you a timestamp, but we were talking about AI and it was dope. And one thing I wanted
to bring up is, I said this to Papa last night and then I said it to my therapist today. I was
like, can you imagine if somebody had taken voice clips of mine from all of the recorded spaces or any of us for that
matter and then they went and created a profile a clone profile and it could even be off just a
little bit and that's where we see that right and so it could be off just a little bit and then they
could have even if they're fake followers they could have followers that would look similar to mine. So you wouldn't even second guess or second glance at that account.
And then that account then starts doing the AI spaces, but being like totally opposite of me,
like really being mean to people and saying really derogatory things. And then I was like,
to people and saying really derogatory things. And then I was like, holy shit, how would X know
which one was me? Are we going to have in the future that we have to actually verify our voices
to platforms? So you know how like you pay for the blue checkmark or the gold checkmark,
specifically like businesses, right, have to have the, or they do have the gold checkmark.
specifically like businesses, right? Have to have the, or they do have the gold check mark,
but oftentimes we're able to recover things like via email or text message, whatever. But
what if there's going to be like a voice? Does that make sense? Like who would know is who?
And then it reminded me of that gif where the Spidermans are all like pointing at each other.
Where the Spider-Mans are all like pointing at each other.
So I was just thinking that.
Wouldn't that be a trip though, babe?
Holy shit.
Crazy.
Yeah.
It was pretty cool though, Babs.
I got to tell you, Rick Star is your dude.
I'm telling you.
He created, he was just doing this thing with AI.
And it was crazy how much it sounded like me.
Don't you think, babe?
And it wasn't even like a long amount. Yeah. Like he didn't get, I mean, he said that it would take an average of like
30 minutes for you to read a script and you couldn't do it monotone. You'd have to do it,
you know, in your different tones. And so it could pick that up, but it was still pretty impressive.
pick that up, but it was still pretty impressive. Yeah, I was working with his, the AI that he had
suggested 11 labs, but then I ran out of credits. I'm not very good with AI yet. I don't, I don't
get it. Papa's, he's, and I told him, I was like, you're so lucky because he's very smart and he's creative.
And I don't think that often, no, I shouldn't say that.
But there's people who have a very high intelligence and maybe they're not as creative.
But I feel like he has both.
And I told him, I'm like, dude, that's so cool.
Because he tries to teach me how to make a video and I just, I can't get it.
video and I just I can't get it it just something does not click so kudos to everybody all out
It just, something does not click.
there making your shit because it seems it's so hard for me so and you bring other things
mama bear that papa bear can't bring well that's I'm glad I'm glad I bring something yeah I just
do for sure for sure for sure yeah and I do think that ai cloning is going to be is going to be something
that's going to happen at some point i can't remember i'm trying drawing a blank where i was
at it was at some kind of a meeting um with somebody who was talking about um ai and the
cloning and all that and that they're they're looking at that this was using i don't know
where it was but they were talking about doing heart signatures,
like that your heart actually has its own electrical signature,
and they're using AI now to determine what that is.
I think there's some complications with that that I asked that didn't get addressed as far as, well, what happens if you have a cardiac incident?
We just get a heart transplant.
Cardiac transplant, whatever, yeah. cardiac transplant whatever yeah but so but it's it's it's more unique than your voice signature
your voice signature somebody else can easily more easily clone um than your heart signature
wow trip out so one day babs we're gonna have to like verify who we are by putting our finger on
you know like the flashlight area and then it will then send
those electromagnetic waves like the uh yep what is that called when they do that like an EKG
they'll be sending those over and they'll be like okay that's mama okay that's babs yep
I know I know it's kind of crazy because I, I put my meditations and all kinds of stuff out there and it's like, yeah,
somebody totally can take my voice and they're me.
And so my family and I just say, you know, we have a, well,
we've forgotten it already, but we have to, we look,
I'm looking at my daughter who's sitting here right now. I'm like, damn,
we were having this discussion. We had, we have a safe word.
Like when to ask specific questions,
like if somebody calls
and sounds exactly like mom yes you know like okay what can you ask me that some ai is gonna have no
idea right and there have been i'm sure you have seen those instances where people have actually
um called somebody and said uh this is blah blah blah, and it's the kid, and then they need money emergency,
and it turns out that wasn't even for them. But it's interesting you say that safe word thing.
So I feel like this has been a thing for a long time. It's just evolved in different manners
because now we have to be exactly that more aware of things that are, you know, AI.
But when I was younger, I actually had a safe word for people to take me.
So if somebody came to pick me up from school, I had a safe word with my mom.
My children, well, that was a different story.
But my children had a safe word with me.
Say the T-WOP was at his friend's house,
and you guys, this happened all the time, and I really encourage parents to have this open
communication, but he would go stay the night at a friend's house, and there were a couple instances
where I am on my way, two o'clock in the morning, snow and ice, shit scared, but I have to get to
my kid, right? Or where he doesn't feel comfortable about something,
he has that weird gut feeling, which I always taught my kids to really pay attention to.
And he would call and be like, Mom, is it okay if I stay the night at Justin's? And then I'd be like,
hmm. And then he'd be like, it's fine. It's not like we're going to do anything.
And that was kind of our thing. You know what I mean? And that meant, say no, I want you to pick me up.
So I don't know.
I think that we've always kind of had that.
But it really is interesting that everybody, I don't know.
I mean, people use it in sex.
I mean, safe words are a real thing, you know?
So Papa just got mortified right now.
No, I remember having a safe word growing up too.
Oh my God. I thought you were going to say,
I remember us having a safe word and I was almost going to kick you out of
stage. Really? Almost.
You didn't want to ask the pineapple. That's okay.
You guys, he's fucking lying right now.
You guys, he's fucking lying right now.
But no, it was funny because it actually, I even had that, you know, they used it.
Mom, I don't know what happened.
She was stuck at work or whatever.
And my neighbor had to pick me up from school.
And I forget the name.
I think it was something really...
It wasn't Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers,
but it was something...
It was a tongue twister of some sort.
I had a hard time
saying it.
What do you think? Oh my gosh. You're so matter-of-fact. You're like, nope. I had a hard time Saying it Like exactly
Oh my gosh so you're like so matter of fact
You're like nope
Try again
You know
I can imagine you being that kid
And you being like
Well you actually didn't pronounce that correctly
And therefore I know that you're lying
So I'm not going anywhere with you.
See, ours was much more, and I get that.
I think safe words are great, but ours was something very, like,
something somebody else wouldn't recognize as being a safe word.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, to where you could put it into a sentence and it only makes sense to
those people.
So it wouldn't be like supercalifragilisticexpialidocious because you're not
going to bring that up in a conversation.
I've heard of like,
like for example,
I've got our,
you know,
sisters practice tomorrow.
Well,
I don't have a sister.
So obviously,
you know that.
Right.
No, that's true. absolutely yeah i don't know yeah i'm not gonna go in i'm not gonna go that way i was gonna go a
different way and i i'm backing off so yeah no i i do i think that's awesome i think it's good for
us to all have something set up but just just thinking about that AI, just thinking about how
something could be completely taken over. And I did, I did talk to my therapist today about having
an AI clone of, um, of my mom and being able to work through some things. I did. I did.
And she said, she said that, um, well, first of all, she said that they've all been spoken to about this within their organization.
They feel that it's not even, oh, God, what is that word?
Not noble, morally right to use AI.
They won't even use AI to take notes for them.
I don't know. I was just trying to give her kind of a perspective on it. Be like, you know, what if somebody, and this is, oh, I flipped
the script, babe. You would be so proud of me. No, actually you wouldn't. You'd be like, babe.
But she was telling me that they oftentimes have a therapy where, say that there's somebody who's done damage to them, or there's
somebody who, I don't know, somebody has done something to them. And so, and because they're
not able to see that person face to face, don't want to, don't need to, can't do it energetically,
whatever the reason may be, they actually have you sit across an empty chair and will have you do this kind of acting out.
But oftentimes people have a difficult time because, first of all, it's a very vulnerable
position to be in. Secondly, it's very, I don't, some people think it's dumb or silly, right?
Because you have to be open to anything, especially when it has to do with
healing or working through things. Like, dude, I don't care what anybody says. If you're in therapy,
fucking kudos to you because it is hard. That shit is work. To show up once a week, bro, like,
you got my fucking respect. But so when you're sitting across from this, there's some people who just don't feel
comfortable to talk to the thin air. And that's what I had brought up to her about having some
kind of AI. It doesn't have to be the same mannerism, but I do think that it could be
helpful to people to get through some things. I really do. And of course, she flipped the script on me and she said,
mama, if you had that, what would you want to then get from that? And I'm like, oh,
I already thought about this. But it was, it was good because it's that mirror moment. But like I told her, there's people in our lives that are incapable of not accepting, but some people are just not able to meet us where we need them to meet us.
And honestly, even if they tried, it might not ever even be enough.
You know, and that's where I go back to that whole, like, if a person gets two years for killing somebody versus 15,
it doesn't matter. That's never enough to heal that pain that came to you from you losing that
person. You know? So that's what I had kind of pushed back. And then she pushed me back and I
was like, fuck. But I told her, I was like, it's the, it's the level of, I don't, incapability,
even that sounds rude, but there's some people who just don't, they're not at the level of incapability. Even that sounds rude.
But there's some people who just don't.
They're not at the level where they're able to meet us at that.
Does that make sense?
I don't know.
I feel like I'm rambling at this point.
No, it does.
And the other thing is when you're saying about, is it ever enough?
You know, is it ever enough? Same thing with money, right? Like, like when you're like, oh, you know, here, the court awarded you $5 million settlement or something like that. That's, that's, that's great, but that's somebody? What is the time for somebody to,
Same thing with money, right?
it's very, it's impossible to do, you know? So do you get a bigger settlement because
Jimmy was in a car accident and he can no longer work out in the community and he was,
you know, very church oriented and did volunteer work at schools and was a firefighter.
So is his life worth, quote, more than somebody who was in an accident and had been unemployed for two years and had a mental health issue and was at home?
There's no way to put a number, but we oftentimes do that.
a number, but we oftentimes do that. But that's where I'm saying that I really think the AI
could help people to process and to understand things. And I told her, I was like, honestly,
I would love to have an AI of me. Here's me always putting myself for accountability,
hand it to one of my kids and being like, here, you interact with this, you process whatever,
because there's no, I'm not there.
It's not, oh, I don't want to hurt mom's feelings.
I don't know how she'll take this, right?
So it would be just like a raw, uncut fucking conversation.
Then that AI could come back to me and be like, here you go, mama.
These are things that you need to avoid.
that you need to avoid. These are things that upset him. And is that cheating in a way? Maybe.
These are things that upsets him.
And is that cheating in a way?
Maybe.
But to me, I just can, I feel like that would help heal so many people and it would help bridge
relationships that don't necessarily need to be broken. I don't know. Yeah. Big man has his hand
up. What's up, big man? Mama bear. I absolutely love your outlook on that.
I think everything is just an extra tool in our toolbox. Right.
So maybe in some cases it may help other people. In other cases, it may hinder.
It depends on your situation and everything is circumstantial.
I'm not going to use a screwdriver to pound in a nail. It doesn't make sense.
screwdriver to pound in a nail. It doesn't make sense. So I think for me personally,
if I was grieving, it would be a really cool tool for me to have. That's where I see it the most.
I don't necessarily for my day to day. I feel like for me, the personal hardship of putting my energy
energy and time into things like there was a point in time where I couldn't talk to my dad for a
and time into things like there was a point in time where I couldn't talk to my dad for a while.
while. Like I would have a conversation with him and it would just explode because we're both kind
of hotheads and I couldn't deal with it. I couldn't emotionally invest in it, but I loved my
relationship with my dad. So in order to repair any of that damage, I had to shut down a part of
myself in interaction where I was like, I have to let him come to
the conclusion himself. And I, there's nothing that I can do that will change his mind. And now
my relationship with him is great. And I feel like I could talk to him about anything again,
like, and it's simply by me just taking a step back. And it's hard for some people because it
hurt me doing that. Like, you know, in my personal life, like it hurt my feelings.
It hurt me emotionally to do those things.
And that's not necessarily a burden anybody should have to carry for anybody.
But I feel like when you love somebody a lot and they also love you, that's what we're here for.
We're kind of, we are the rock when you need to be.
And also we look after ourselves too, though.
And I think that's really important as well.
For sure.
Sorry, I kind of got lost in there with the experience. No, no, you're, you're good.
It's funny. I was actually talking to her also about, um, because she, I understand that there's
a true burden on people who are in the mental health field. I understand that truly. I have
so much respect for what people do. I feel it's a really selfless job.
Okay.
If your intentions are good.
What I see is that oftentimes people have to be careful what they say.
Because a person, depending on where they are, again, where they're able to meet this counselor and where they're able to receive that
information, it can really be detrimental, right? So what her and I were, I was talking to her about
was, I don't know if you guys ever remember that story, but I feel like it wraps into this, but
there was a, there was a person who had followed, um, it was a, like an app on her phone that had
told her a map. She was going to a place she hadn't been before, entered this information,
ended up in the fucking ocean. Okay. Not only in the ocean, but like a state over.
Now to some people, that's like so ridiculous, but she had put her, we don't know where she
was mentally. We don't know, we don't know anything,
but she ended up in the ocean. And then they came back and was like, well,
to the, to the map quest or whoever it was, like, this is your fault because she did this.
Right. So it reminds me of even with the AI, I think that's where we would have to be careful
because how do you tell a person that's
just a computer giving you suggestions, not telling you to do exactly that. But I was telling
my therapist and she said, it's the same with them. They have to be very careful about things
that they say. That's why they're so careful about charting. Because unfortunately, some people will
take it and do something different when that's not even what they meant for it to happen.
So I can see that being an issue.
I can.
But in general, I think that there could be a lot of healing done.
I really do.
Oops.
Toshi, what's up, Toshi?
Hey.
Hey, Mama Bear, Papa Bear.
How have you been?
It's been so long.
I figured I'd stop past and say what's up.
It's funny. I actually was hoping you'd come up and say hi.
Sorry, didn't mean that.
No, I appreciate that. I appreciate it. Yeah, I wanted to stop past.
The topic you guys are talking about is really interesting. I actually had a question to pose to everyone here on the panel because it was I was watching a show or something. like the grieving part, like they were, they were taking people's like personalities or whatever,
and uploading them to our training, like models of AI, different AI models on different people's
personalities. So they could essentially respond just like them and have like, I guess, knowledge
of like all of the stuff that, you know, I guess makes them or whatever. And they were doing it
though. Like the purpose of it was so that they could, um, upload those or provide those AIs to
people who were having a hard time, like grieving, like losing a person. And so that they could
essentially simulate them still interacting with them, which I thought was, um, it was a different
like type of use case. And I don't know, it was just
like, there were mixed feelings about it. Some people thought, like, you know, I mean, I was,
you know, some people, I saw talking about the episode online, thought it was maybe not the best
thing to do. And then there were other people on the other side, it was like, but, you know,
it really could help a person if they're really having a hard time. I just want to know what your
thoughts of, are on that. And then, like, do you think that's going to be a thing one day, something that someone tries to attempt
to do? Heck yeah. Jed has his hand up. What's up, Jed? Yo. Hey, everybody. Toshi, that's pretty
interesting. You got me thinking about something. I saw it in a uh it was like a something um a
tsunami that hit japan something like that there was a it was a documentary on one of the areas
that got hit and they actually had in there an elderly woman whose husband died in the uh in
the tsunami um they had a memorial at his grave site where she could pick up the telephone and have a conversation with him as like a way of like therapy.
But I don't think it was AI. I think it was like a prerecorded conversation or something like that that they put together somehow.
Maybe it was AI. I'd have to look more into it.
But it was it was like a therapy type thing for people that are dealing with, you know, immense, you know, grief.
And it seemed to help a lot for those people anyway.
It was multiple people that had that opportunity there.
So that's pretty interesting concept.
I think it's good, honestly.
I think it definitely be used for good.
All this stuff is dual use, right?
You know, it could be good in so many ways, like miraculous ways, but
it could also be bad in so many bad ways, but gotta just like take what you can get, I guess,
you know? Yeah, that's true. Yeah. We spoke about this a little bit yesterday
about how I had told Papa, it would be really interesting to have a, I think in the future,
there's going to be kind of like a virtual metaverse, a virtual metaverse. That was funny.
A virtual graveyard. And I think that you're going to be able to go kind of hover over the
tombstones and whether this is a physical place you go to, or it's just virtual. And I think
you're going to be able to kind of see the person's avatar, maybe interact with it, but you'll be able to have these conversations with them. And I think that
there'll be some people who allow anybody to be able to talk to them and some who will be like,
no, that's only my family member to do that. I think there's going to be a line with that. But
to me, I just think about how much I would love to,
and I realize it's not the same, you guys, but to have a conversation with my grandma, right?
She was so important to me. And just to let her know kind of where I am in life and to get even
some kind of feedback. And I realized, again, that wouldn't be actually her, I think about how cool it would be
if she could read my grandchildren story, right? Just things like that. I think that it used to be
kind of like a, I don't know. I don't know if you guys remember like the whole thing about everybody
wanting to do swabs and finding out your lineage and that kind of thing. I think that we're going to be able to do that in a digital fashion. And I think that it's
going to mean more to people than they're ever going to realize. And yesterday I got a little
pushback on this about, well, you have to be in somebody's presence and feel their energy and
things like that. And I totally agree with you or with that person, but I also really think
that there is something to this and it might be a way for us to even just process things so that
we can let that go. Because I just think of a situation, a couple really having a difficult
time in their marriage. Maybe there's a lack of communication. Anytime that there is communication, it immediately goes
into a tailspin, right? Nobody's hearing each other. They then hire a mediator or a counselor.
One person is putting in more than the other, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? We always
hear these kinds of things. What about if there was a papa bear AI, there was a mama bear AI,
and I was able to interact with his AI. He is able to
interact with mine, even if it's just for a certain amount of time. Then they bring those tools back
and say, this is how this needs to be approached. Do you know what I mean? Just because there's a
separation of that emotions to it. So I don't know. I think there's, like you said, good, bad in between.
We do have Anthony with his hand up. What's up? Oh, sorry, Anthony. How are you?
Yes. The second iteration was correct. Thank you. I'm good. I actually come via proxy through
Toshi. He invited me. You guys are some cool folks. Love the conversation. Wanted to weigh in. I'm one of
those AI skeptics. I work in the technology industry. I'm a software engineer. And, you know,
I've watched the growth of AI from its inception of, you know, public facing, you know, technology.
And I am one of those people who believe in tech for good, but because I work
in the tech industry, I also understand, you know, the harm we're potentially facing in the
same light, right? And so it's like anything that can be used for good can be used for bad.
But even more so, like, beyond thinking about, like, what are the worst things that could possibly happen? I think that it's emotionally and spiritually unhealthy to interact with AI on those types of levels.
I think it creates unhealthy habits for, you know, humankind as it currently stands.
But I do believe that we're also and also saying that I believe that the human consciousness is kind of going through a shift right now.
We're debating whether or not we want to evolve.
or not we want to evolve. And obviously, half of the spectrum of folks are on the side of,
okay, well, we need to evolve. And, you know, AI is going to be a huge part of that. And I think
that you asked the question where he's like, do you think that we're going to get to the point
where there's essentially these emotional support animals that are AI, right? Or emotional support people, let me not say animals, that are, you know, AI, right? And they'll feel sentient. But the problem is that they
won't actually be. And I think that we will get there, which I will say, unfortunately,
I don't necessarily think it's healthy. But I do see a lot of good in it.
Like there's a lot of sentiment, but, you know, they say like the road to hell was paved with good intentions like that kind of quote.
I love that. So I think the intention is great.
I think the the risk and what we are, what we're at risk to lose is greater than the sentiment itself.
And that's one of those things that I kind of like, you know, six eggs in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
And everybody's got choices to make. But do. But again, back to the question, do I think we'll get there.
The question is my answer is yes. Based on the fact that A.I AI is already getting heavily integrated. We've seen Meta AI,
we've seen Gemini, they're putting it into our phones where we're, you know, also open AI where
we're having conversations and they sound so human-like at this point. You know, they, you
know, they ask thought-provoking questions. And so it's really one of those things.
I think it probably will happen. But since I've watched shows like Upload, which I think is on Amazon Prime and Pantheon, which is on Netflix, I'm just like, I don't think it's good.
Those are great. I recommend those shows greatly. But I do think we're headed there.
I don't think it's it's going to be pieces and crates.
So, yeah.
Totally.
I totally agree with you.
I think I talk about intention all the time.
Intention matters.
And the deal is we never know what somebody's intention is.
Just straight up, we don't.
We have to trust that people's intention is good.
And sometimes people have the intention of something transpiring and it goes a totally different way.
And they're like, well, I'm fucked either way. So I'm just going to continue with this,
this area. So, um, I don't think it's anything we can put away though. And I think that that's why
it's funny to me. Cause I remember somebody saying, Elon tried to plead with people not to
I remember somebody saying Elon tried to plead with people not to essentially let it out because when it does, there's no way going back.
But I also know he's very heavily into AI himself.
So but I think that some people have already seen what the capabilities can be.
And it's going to be it's going to be interesting to see how the next couple of years go, for sure. Big man, what's up, big man?
All right, so I do want to just segue back for a second real quick. When you were talking about
using AI like a mediator, texting is a really good mediator for some people, and that was a
form of technology that helped. Maybe it transpired to a bunch of crappy stuff as well, but it did help a lot of
people. I do agree with Anthony as well about when we get there, you know, it's not really a matter of
if we will, it's more of a matter of when and how, right? Like what our intention is.
Sorry, hang on one second.'m sorry what was it um you uh yeah I lost you can go to Babs I'll
remember it though for sure no problem what's up Babs
if I can find my mute button um yeah I just want to chime in on a couple things um and then I've
got to step down.
But first off, like a lot of this work that you're talking about, like work with people who are no longer here or work with people who you can't really have that conversation with.
One of the things that I love to think about is like some people are just constitutionally incapable of having those kinds of conversations, or they're constitutionally incapable of making those changes in their life. Which that helps me be able to be kind and generous and to accept people for where they're at.
And then some of this other work I actually have done with people kind of like it's kind of more for people who are wanting to work like kind of at a deeper soul kind of like we talked about the woo woo
level um in in the most positive sense that that you can actually visualize these conversations
and you can have those kinds of conversations on an energetic level um and can actually visualize
i've done work with people like like where you actually can physically sit
in a chair and then you move around as you're talking to different either versions of yourself
or with somebody else. And then you're having your higher self kind of be the mediator.
I guess it's all energy work. Anyway, that's just kind of on that one level. And then my one
comment for the whole AI conversation is like, for me, that's the most
reason, there's a reason I'm super excited. It's coming. We can't, like you said, you can't put
the genie back in the box. But I think it's important that those of us who have a stronger
kind of, I don't know what the right word is, moral compass, people who are like,
that we're talking to it, that we are also putting good input into the AI, because it's just learning from all of us. And the more that we help that AI develop its own, you know, its own resources,
and those ones that are good, I think the better off it becomes. If only people,
if people are just afraid because, oh my gosh, I don't want to do this because it could be creepy.
Well, yeah, if we continue to only allow people who might have nefarious intentions for it.
Anyway, so that's kind of where I'm at with those things so thanks and I I'm gonna have to step
down in just a few minutes so absolutely I was gonna ask you one more time what was the words
that you had used for because that's exactly what I was trying to come to the realization today
yeah there's somebody what is it constitutionally incapable incapable. Oh, I like that. Okay.
They're just constitutionally just in their makeup.
They're incapable.
So we can't expect somebody who's incapable.
It's like expecting, you know, somebody who has one arm to do a two-arm pull-up.
They're just incapable of doing a two-arm pull-up if they only have one arm.
Right.
They're capable of doing a pull-up, but it's not going to be the same as a two-arm pull-up.
Right. They're capable of doing a pull-up, but it's not going to be the same as a two-arm pull-up. They're just constitutionally in their constitution as a human
being or as a being. They're incapable. Yeah. Thank you. That's helped me a lot. Those words
have helped me a lot. I'm like, I need those words. I'm going to write those words down.
It's just like, okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So it's okay. It's okay. They're just not,
it's not, and then I don't take it personal because it's not about me, you know, anymore.
Like, they just can't.
So, yeah.
I had to message that to Papa so I would remember later.
You guys, this poor man gets so many messages from me.
He's my notepad.
And I know I can do my own notepepad but it helps me because then i can go
search um in my message to him i don't know this it's funny all hours of the night i send him
right babe sometimes you wake up you're like um i don't like is she trying to tell me to
do blah blah blah whatever this is or or do i just need to uh remind her yeah it's funny
there's like no fucking context most of the time i'm just like yeah poor papa we love papa i
appreciate you honey sorry i'm stopping laughing now what's up cj third time's a charm they didn't want to let me get up here i don't know why but i know
you and somebody else too hello how are you doing cinco de mayo what are you up to
i'm finally back home i had a a long uh weekend but i'm i'm home i was was in Denver for a bit, but I'm back. I'm back.
Back in Cali. I'm about to fix me up a nice, you know, a nice drink here.
I'm getting lit, man. What about you guys?
Just tell me, did you fall asleep during your trade earlier? That's what I just wanted to know.
I did fall asleep. Please tell me, you guys, was I snoring?
No, no, no.
I just came in the chat and they were like, do you know if CJ got out?
And I was like, no, why?
Why are we concerned?
Did he lose reception?
They're like, no, he took a nap.
I'm like, oh, no.
I ended up winning, too. It was like, it's the best whenever you take such a good trade and, like, it goes your way.
And I didn't, like, know.
It's those snaps when you're so tired that you don't even remember when you knock out.
I just remember just listening to, like, T-WOB and you, and I forgot who else was in there talking.
And I just fell asleep. And then I woke up to i woke up to chew up texting me get the fuck out and i'm like oh no tell me i don't tell me i went like
i you know i went down and i because i went long and i looked at it and i was like oh i'll take
this i'll take this yeah that's funny no i know you weren't snoring it is funny i like those naps
that you wake up and you have like proof, proof of your work, you know?
You got arms that have, like, ridges and, like, weird patterns.
You're like, what the fuck was I doing?
Exactly.
And you got a little drool on your face.
Man, that's the best.
I was like, bro, I was fucking drooling and shit.
Like, what was going on what are you guys
talking about but it's a good one i don't i don't snore though i really don't um but you know what's
crazy though my girl snores she fucking snores and i don't and i'm like yeah sometimes i wake up i teach me the bear sometimes
i don't snore either i actually quietly roar um and papa knows just not to talk to me about it it's the cutest thing ever and if i wake myself up from it i don't know it probably wasn't me in
the first place so what about papa probably you snore a little bit yes
just just a little
for sure
well
yeah
he does he snores
it is
what it is it doesn't bug me
like a lot of people get bugged by
it doesn't bug me like sometimes I
shut her mouth like I just fucking I donged by i it doesn't bug me like sometimes i shut her mouth like
i just i don't know but it doesn't bug me though yeah that's funny i know it's it's it's been a
good day i haven't slept for a day i can't sleep no wonder you're no wonder your body shut down
and made you take that nap yeah i yeah i couldn't i couldn't do it
anymore and i just my dad was driving and it was one of those like i don't know about you guys but
i can knock out on uh you know on the road like if somebody's driving and i trust you
dude i'll fucking i'll knock out i wish bro i don't trust anybody you see what i mean not me you see like i don't know
but with my dad drives i don't care i fucking knock out 100 but i didn't want to just come in
here and just take over i was looking at what you guys were i was listening to what you guys were
talking about i love ai um i'm new to learning how to use it because of my company.
I have many people that, you know, do stuff that AI can do,
and I figured that out the other day.
Trust me, I'm super new, so don't bugging me.
Don't clown me.
But if you want to, it's okay.
But I start, like, I was thinking about it.
I was like, man, it sucks because, like, I employ these people,
but business is business.
And I must cut costs. And I literally had AI do payroll for me the other day in 10 minutes.
This person takes four hours to do payroll. They did it for me in 10 minutes.
And I was like, oh my God, I can't believe I'm about to, I'm gonna have
to fucking fire this guy.
And he's such a great guy, but I pay him.
Got to work smarter, bro.
You've got to work smarter.
And that's the thing.
Like I was telling my dad and my mom, I was like, look what I just did.
And they couldn't even believe it. Cause my mom and dad, they I was like, look what I just did. And they couldn't even believe it.
Cause my mom and dad, they're super like,
they're like, I always compare my,
like I always tell my mom, like, you gotta,
you gotta jump in on X spaces and stuff.
Cause my mom is more of like, she,
that's what you remind me of her.
My dad is super old school though.
He's like, he don't even know how to work or phone like that.
But my mom does.
My mom is still stuck in Facebook land.
And Instagram now.
Have you noticed a lot of the...
You guys are not...
You and Papa Bear,
I don't consider you guys like boomers, none of that.
I consider you boomer the way you move on social media.
If you're on Facebook...
I still have a Facebook, don't get me wrong.
But we use Facebook to talk to family and stuff.
If you're on Facebook and stuff, always,
then yes, you're a fucking boomer, I'm sorry, you are.
My grandpa uses Facebook and he's like a freaking beast
at Facebook and he's 90.
But if you notice, like,
they're migrating to Instagram now.
So everybody that's on X,
I feel like you're ahead of the curve, whoever's on X. But yeah, I'm back to AI. AI did it for me in 10 minutes. I'm trying
to figure out to see if AI can do everything, to be honest. I wanted to run my whole operation.
The only thing that it can do, well, I'm pretty sure it can, but I want to see if AI can speak
to whenever I dispatch and I grab loads, I want to see if ai can speak to whenever it's like whenever i
dispatch and i grab loads i want to see if ai can do that for me and negotiate for me if it can do
that oh my god oh it's over you know who you need to talk to about that is rick rick star yeah that's
all i wanted yeah yeah yeah, yeah.
Absolutely, bro.
That's automation.
That's AR.
That's simple AR now.
That isn't even difficult AR.
Automation is the key to freedom and not having to be stuck doing shit all the time.
Like, honestly, automation is here to give us more time
to enjoy life spend time with our families and still earn that same money we were and still get
the same job done that we were uh but just have more time to ourselves that's what i believe i
believe that people shouldn't have to work a nine to five that's crazy man you can get the same amount
to work done now in ai with half the time and you shouldn't get paid less for that you're still getting the job done
i just i wish we had that this mentality of like ai is going to give us a lot more free time to
ourselves and make us enjoy life a lot more that that's the way i look at it i don't look at it
like oh you know you know we're gonna have they're gonna take our way i look at it i don't look at it like oh you know you know we're
gonna have they're gonna take our jobs i don't i definitely don't look at it that way i just think
it's gonna make our life much much easier so yeah they're gonna make it better if anything look rick
i'll tell you what i'm i'm the nicer guy when it comes to everything else my dad is old school
latino slash like he has like a Russian in him. I swear.
As soon as he seen what I did with AI with the payroll,
he was like,
fire him.
And I'll be like,
wait,
wait,
wait,
wait.
I was like,
wait,
hold on,
hold on.
He was like,
fire and fire everybody.
Fuck it.
And I'll be like,
wait,
wait,
wait,
hold on.
I don't even know how to do this shit.
Like,
hold on.
But you're telling me,
Rick,
I can prompt AI to negotiate with my clients.
Like, talk to them?
How?
Not only that,
AI could probably get you
a better leads,
a list of leads
than you could ever gather yourself.
You could tell AI,
look for leads
in this specific area
with this demographic
and it will go and find
those people for you.
This AI is super powerful. What do you recommend i use because i'm using uh so uh you try try um
use germany uh so it's ai google ai studio and use a new 2.5 uh turbo model because that one
there is really powerful uh but just hit me in the dms Brian. I'll I'll give you a couple of tips on on on how to how to get it set up
but yeah, bro
So Jim Google a studio a
German a tube it's called uh so it's the the model is germany 2.5 germany 2.5 i'm taking notes yeah but if you have any questions just hit me up and and we can
jump in a discord call and i can just screen share with you and show you like what, like what I suggest for you. Um,
just tell me a bit about your business.
You know what we'll talk. We'll talk. Yeah. It's transportation. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay, cool. It's fucking like, it's amazing. Just what it did with,
and I know it's easy. That's what I was telling you. Like I'm brand new.
I know it's, this is nothing, but even the payroll stuff, like showing,
like my mom and my yeah dad like i told
him i was like look because you know my mom runs all the accounts and i was like mom look you can
literally have ai do all the work for you and yeah and like you know the company aka mine and my dad
we're forced to we gotta pay you even even though you're fucking just doing ai because i literally
did it in front of them i was like look i look, I'm going to do it right now.
They're like, what do you mean?
You're going to take forever.
I was like, no, no, no, look, watch.
I prompted the AI.
I told them what to do.
I gave them screenshots of, you know, the payroll, like the paystubs and all that.
And it did everything.
Like, it did everything for me, like in 10 minutes.
In less than 10 minutes.
Sorry, because it was like seven people.
They must have been thinking, black magic. this guy's doing some black magic here this is impossible my dad was ripping out he was like what are you doing what did you who did you pay who do you work
for i was like i'm just using chad gbt and he was like there's I can do that. I was like, you just seen it in front of your face.
And right away, he was like, I need you to fire everyone.
And I was like, hold on, hold on, hold on, cowboy, relax.
But he's that type.
Like, if we could cut, which is sad, you know, because it sucks.
But like I said, business is business.
And if I can cut, you know some some payroll from some people because AI
can do it more more effectively and more efficiently then it just gives me more work because I have to
go ahead and do it but how mine like it's it was actually fun um to do yeah but check this check
this bro you won't have to you won't have to get rid of anyone do you know why you're going to get so much more business with ai because ai is going to be able to give you the leads that no one
else was able to give you it's going to give you such precise leads that you're going to be hitting
so much more business that you're going to be able to accommodate that into your your workflow so
that that's that's my whole thing is that ai can improve
everything bro like we can we'll talk about it but i'll even show you how you can get some crazy
leads with ai that that basically will will uh you can have ai go out and like just email like
50 100 companies and like basically go out search for you for yeah bro yeah so for sure and not just email random
for sure because that's what i do what i do is my job in a company is i i get clients directly
um so my job is to hit up clients and get them to you know to do business with us and oh my god
i take i take a while well well you would be good at programming that because
you would tell the ar where to go look so you would say like go look in this area for businesses
that meet this these criteria and get me an email list or not even give me an email list send them
out an email like an intro email and then you'll get some hits back off that and just
email like an intro email and then you'll get some hits back off that my thing is like i like
doing the the lead email like what you said and then i love getting the like i you know it's tough
out here right now but i love getting the either the the reply or the call back like yo call me i
rather talk to you and if i have to go where you're at i'll go but man if you're saying ai can but but even customer
service so you could set up like a full customer 24 hour customer service line that would basically
give you leads so if someone calls at like four in the morning they're still going to take the
notes and speak to that person and get all the details what about payments uh can it do payments
gets a bit payment for me for example i get calls sometimes
randomly from like my my employees they'll call and they'll be like i need to pay this and you
know they're not authorized to pay anything so like i gotta do it and i know it comes with the
territory but if you're telling me that ai can make a payment for me at four and three in the
morning four i wake up at five but sometimes i get freaking three o'clock three in the morning calls
if you're telling me you can make run a payment for me oh my god that's crazy if it's an outstanding payment
or something yeah bro but we we we'll discuss that i'll discuss the automation side of it for you
but every action you do on a computer can now be done by ar so just think of anything like anything
you do can be executed by ar. So you just set up the automation
That's all you need to do. So once that automation set up
It will be programmed that every time that gets that email of payments
It's then its action is to go and go and check and make sure that that is the right payment
You'll set up like a few like a procedure for it to go through but
what will trigger that procedure is that email so that's basically how you'd set up automation for
that but you could set up automation for anything man like i'm telling you you could 5x business of
your company uh with ar because you're going to be it's just going to constantly be working for you, looking for leads 24 hours a day.
It's out there, like just emailing people, speaking to people, having the intro conversation.
And then when it passes all of those things, it sends you an email and goes, this is a
solid lead.
So you don't deal with all of the bullshit.
Yeah.
Did you hear, did you hear me the other day, uh, CJ, about how I was watching this?
Um, it was a court appearance and this gentleman had actually provided, he had filed all the
appropriate paperwork. He was in front of the judge. Um, and then he started speaking to the
judge through his AI and the judge got pissed and she was like,
you can't do this. And he's like, but I can, I'm here representing myself and I have the AI
telling, you know, giving me the legal information. And she's like, well, that's not a person and it
hasn't passed the bar. He fucking pulled out the thing had passed the fucking bar, bro.
Like knew all of them, all of of the back and this is the kind
of stuff we're gonna start seeing um she was pissed she had to continue it um because they
need to figure out you know how they're going to navigate this but this is not um this is just the
tip of the tip you know what i mean and i was sitting there thinking about my brother 100%
you know my brother right now that's just you, filing some shit for him in the state of Washington for him.
You know, if it's going to give me every step that I need to do, then provide that proof,
then back to the courts and be like, well, looks like you guys don't want your boy. So now you got
to drop the case. You're going to start seeing things like that. 100%. Yep. Which is going to be so much more cost effective for people too,
if you think about it.
I would add to, especially in the, what we're in at,
like that we're pioneers developing stuff that for laws that don't even
exist yet,
that chat GPT knows more than a lawyer that you would pay 350 bucks
because the laws don't exist.
Yeah, totally EAC. Yeah, absolutely. I agree with you. And I think about like smart contracts. And
again, this can be used for something bad too, right? Papa tells me all the time that
he knows, like he can, he's contacted projects and let them know that they have, what is that called,
babe? Like if they're exposed, what is that word? Vulnerability, you mean? Vulnerability, right?
And I feel like that's where some people are going to be using that as well. But there's a lot of
contracts out there that, you know, and I'm like, God, that's so nice of you, babe. Did they say
thank you? He's like, yeah, I mean, not, they didn't care too much. I'm like, fuck them, bro.
Because I'm like, dude, I would be so happy if somebody hit me up and was like, bro, your smart contract is not neat and tight.
And this is easy for somebody to come in and do this to it.
So I don't know.
I do think it's the tip of the tip for sure.
It reminds me of that one movie, Mama mama bear i don't know if you guys
watched it it's with um vince vaughn i believe and he wait is it his best so he's like oh yeah
it is with him it's stand and deliver he has like all these kids and stuff because he like was a
sperm donor and uh he couldn't afford a lawyer so So he was like, so his best friend was like, I'll be your lawyer.
But so like, AI can legit be your best friend.
And just, if you learn how to, like how Rick's saying,
like, I gotta really learn this stuff
because even just showing my parents
the little things that it did.
And that's easy, that's rookie mode right there.
Like I know there's so much more.
It's just, I don't know how to prompt it.
Like, I have trouble prompting it.
Sometimes I don't know what to say.
Like, I still shoot. Like, I still shoot.
I say everything.
And it picks up. Like, with the payroll stuff, it picked it up.
Like, I messed up a little bit, but it picked it up.
And I had my notes of what the right amount was.
And I was like, let's see if if uh ai messes up
and uh it actually did it messed up because we pay here so i pay my drivers per mile and
is it kind of messed up i was like ah look it messed up but i messed up because I was like, ah, look, I messed up. But I messed up because I didn't,
I wasn't specific on that part.
And it wasn't off by a lot.
It was so close.
And I was like, wait, that's not the amount that I got though.
It's like, something's messing up here.
But it finally, like, I figured it out and I got it.
But it's super cool though.
Just like that teacher that I met not too long ago,
he's a professor. And he talks about how everybody's writing their shit with AI.
Right. And, uh, what he's doing is instead of,
because there's no way for him to take that away.
What he does is he actually teaches.
So he'll give them something that he prompted from AI and they have to then
he flipped it on them.
They then have to prompt it to get the answer to what he gave them.
Does that make sense?
So like he hands them a paper that's already AI created and
then he makes them answer it with the prompts so
that they can recreate that answer.
That makes sense 100%. And I do think there's going to be prompting in schools even elementary
schools i think um that's just all right around the corner for sure but i know papa you said that
you guys use ai sometimes at work but it's not very like super beneficial is that right it's
it's definitely getting better and you know you know, again, you're right.
Prompting is what matters.
And, you know, once you get better at doing what to prompt
and how to word it, then the better it'll be.
Because it's kind of like, I remember back when we were talking about
how if you're very vague and generic with something,
you're leaving things way open to interpretation and it could get things way wrong, right? Or it
might be like, well, it didn't tell me that I wanted to do this, so I'm just going to assume
or I'm just going to even completely ignore whatever. But it's the more that you're able to kind of craft that prompt and the better
off you'll be. Right. Um, I have noticed even just in the past, you know,
year or so it, you know, as far as to do,
to do the job, it actually, you know, it's,
it's definitely working a lot better.
I think that what you're going to see, though, is like, I don't know where I was going with this.
But I think what's going to happen with the workforce is that, you know, at least in software, right?
There's always way more that we can do than we ever have manpower to do.
Right.
Cause there's the laundry list, the backlog of items, the features that
they want to add or do, um, you know, they'd, they'd have to like hire so
many people just to, to, you know, get whatever work to like hire so many people just to, you know,
get whatever work they want done. Right.
I think what you're going to really see is that AI is going to help with that staffing problem. Right. People,
you're going to be able to do more with less,
not necessarily less people because they're like, Oh,
we're going to fire everybody and do whatever. No, those people that are going to be able to do it are going to be able to either a
do more or do a better job of it and you know then or in less time or whatever like that
i think that's the key that we're gonna have to and i'm with you i'm with you on that probably
and rick like when you were saying that i'm with you right that's Papa Vera and Rick. Like when you were saying that, I'm with you, right? That's just my dad's freaking way.
I don't know why, but my thing is, for example,
I pay my guy to do his tasks or whatever.
If he can get it done, and I know he will,
with AI, his four hours and he gets it done in 10 minutes,
I'm pretty sure he's going to demand still his same
pay. And it'll be tough to pay someone to do, you know, what I pay him for, for four hours,
for 10 minutes. And I understand, I understand, like, you know, he's just another body, he's
helping me because, you know, I need somebody to do it. Um, cause I, I can be doing something else.
I like putting, you know, my, my job is to put, put people in position to, uh, succeed.
And I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, get, get that position when
you just have somebody else do it.
But where I, where I kind of clash is like shit, like I'm still going to have
to pay them the same amount and they're gonna do way
less work or i gotta just figure out and see what what more work i can give them because i know
they'll knock out that work super quick because i did it in 10 minutes yeah there's definitely
gonna be like a transition period there of where either people are going to have to become I guess more generalists
maybe they'll wear more hats
but things won't
necessarily either take as long
or they'll be able to
do different things
right so
yeah there's going to be a shift
and back to the
whole pay thing
right like I mean that's the other problem we have in society right now
is just that people can't seem to make enough
at least with the traditional jobs that we've had
because of how much things cost nowadays and everything.
It's just we can't just go and say,
oh, I'm sorry, you know what?
Now, you know, since it only takes you two hours or whatever,
you know, to do instead of 40,
I'm only going to pay you for two hours.
That's what I mean.
Like, it's just, it's like, it gets tough.
It's like, I wonder wonder if ai and i'm pretty
sure it can but i wonder because i am i am you know i had a couple um on one of my one of my
loads that i was doing one of my drivers something something happened and i'm getting sued um nothing
crazy but i am getting sued and i wonder like, I need to get a lawyer.
And, oh, my God, lawyers are expensive.
And I wonder, and I'm all for it, because it's not a crazy claim.
I wonder if AI can show me and teach me on how to take on this claim.
If it can, I'll definitely do it,
because I'm not trying to pay 15 grand to his lawyer in
LA just for them to do something that I can do with AI.
I'll definitely do it because the claim is not big. If it was a huge claim,
I probably won't get into it, but it's not something crazy.
And I would love to see if I can take it on with AI. That'd be crazy.
That'd be cool.
I have asked chat GBT if it can legally be your lawyer, and the answer is no.
Dang it.
The thing is, real quick, the thing is, like, the claim is, well, yeah, never mind.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right.
Never mind, I guess.
No, no, I was just going to say, um, something I can equate this to. And again,
I know it's not the exact same, but, um, when I needed to do some serious legal things,
when my boys were younger, um, I actually went to a place, um, basically they,
I don't know how to explain it. They had their law degree, but they were still very new. You
know what I mean? And so what they would do is they would sit down with me and they would guide
me, but they wouldn't do it for me. And it was like kind of like a law. I don't know if you guys
have ever seen those, like kind of like law clinics. And so basically I would do all of the
work. I would fill everything out. I was just told by her in what order things needed to be filed, how that worked, how serving transpired, things like that.
So I don't see any difference in that.
And I was the first one in my state to get a 99-year protection order.
So, like, I'm in under RCW, blah, blah, blah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm actually known in the state for this.
And it was all me doing all of that footwork.
So I don't see any difference if it's something pretty minimal like that.
And if you wanted to have it, like, double checked, I also know an attorney in L.A.
He's, we're really cool.
So maybe, I mean, I know there's different areas, but
it's always just kind of good to know people.
A hundred percent. Like if I can even get AI to kind of give me like a script,
I'm all for it. Like I'll pray all that shit out. Like if I can get everything for me that I need to,
you know, like to prepare myself because I have time. And the reason why I'm down is because
it's not big. like if it was more than
50 grand i probably would have been like all right let me know i totally get that but it's it's all
about what is the right papers because no matter what you still have to pay for those fucking
papers to be filed it's just when an attorney does it you know what i mean attorney does it
full might not even ever go to the courthouse. Yeah. Remember, they charge you for a fucking letter, I swear.
Everything they write.
Oh, they do it.
Every sentence.
No, no.
Everything.
Everything.
Playing around.
No, thank you.
20 grand.
And like, literally, she was done so fast.
And I was like, oh, my God.
Like, I was asking her, like, what did you do?
And I was curious.
And she didn't want to tell me shit.
She was like, oh, I don't understand. They don't got to tell me nothing. I was just like, like, what did you do? And I was curious. And she didn't want to tell me shit. She was like, oh, I don't understand.
They don't got to tell me nothing.
I was just like, oh, my God.
Like, it was making me, like, should I go to school and become a lawyer?
Like, Jesus.
Yeah, I think about that all the time.
Let's go to school.
T-WAP, I see you down there.
Get your ass up here.
Imagine T-WAP as an attorney, attorney bro he would be sued so quick with his
attitude t-wop would go off on somebody and be held in contempt oh my god he'll be like a good
like um what's the ones that like uh try to get you to speak oh my god i'm i'm having a brain
fire right now it'll be a good um i think he'll be a good defendant, lawyer. I think he'd be a prosecutor, bro.
I feel like...
Yeah, yeah.
He would fry his people.
That's what he would do.
Go and check out arlawyer.pro.
arlawyer.pro.
It's a...
AR lawyer, your professional legal ai assistant uh this thing also looking like a
they've worked with yahoo market watch bloomberg as seen on i mean you never know with this shit
do your own research but this one looks rick can you imagine how many people i could help out in
my brother's even in in his block and they all get helped out
and then Rick gets a little kickback and then we get sponsored by those motherfuckers hey
hit us up hit Rick Star up remember if you're I don't know why I haven't told you it's actually
I'm ashamed of myself um I I got somebody in the system that has so much pull. He literally, just long story short,
he pulled out a guy that murdered somebody.
And he pulled him out of jail.
He's free.
You know, we're friends now.
He actually goes and speaks about his story all over schools
and stuff. And my buddy buddy his name is uh stop but
nick he's uh he used to be a producer he's not a producer anymore he um he produced the movie
hangover he produced the movie due date he produced the movie project x i don't know if you guys seen
any of those but um yeah i heard of him yeah i became really cool with him um because of one of my best friends
that went to jail he's in he's in jail uh not anymore but he went to jail and my my buddy got
taken out of jail because of this guy scott and uh he like linked us together and then like now
we're friends and i you know i text them and stuff so we're good but you know, I text them and stuff, so we're good. But you know what? I got to talk to you because maybe it depends on what it is,
but maybe, well, it doesn't depend.
This guy pulled out somebody that fucking killed somebody.
What I'm trying to say is my guy Scott is the type, you know,
like he wants to know the details, like, yo, like,
if I could take you out or once I take you out, like, I need you to join in this program.
Because he has, he runs this program.
He runs a jail program.
And that's how he earns, you know, his living.
But he's a beast.
Like, he literally went up to New Jersey and took this guy.
And took him out.
Don't know how, but he took him him out and he's a free man and now he runs a fucking construction business oh yeah dude he's wealthy that's amazing he came
straight out of jail that's amazing yep yep and he went to jail when he when he was younger so
he made mistakes when he was younger he killed a man when he was younger and So he made mistakes when he was younger. He killed a man when he was younger. And now he's fucking just an amazing man. Fucking speaks all over the world with kids and shit. Like
he focuses on gangsters. Like he focuses on, on kids coming out of high school that are in gangs.
And he tells them, bro, I was in one of the biggest gangs. Trust. Like
biggest game is trust like you're a fucking rookie like you don't want to go that way trust me
you're a fucking rookie. Like you don't want to go that way. Trust me.
no that's good i don't know if you guys remember you probably don't cj you're too young but
there used to be these like scared straight programs when i was younger
man they got they got people that would go in there and they'd get up in their face you want
to be in here locked up you little bitch you know and try to scare these kids and i don't know
yeah have you seen i remember that scared straight on mtv but have you seen like the
newer version of that called 21 days in or i think it's or say 41 or however many days in
is it 21 29 days i don't know but 60 days 60 days in jesus christ yeah 60 days in 60 days in
Jesus Christ
60 days in
these guys
go to like
a prison
and they
basically
undercover cops
and they have to
survive in the prison
for 60 days
like going
unnoticed
and everything
so these are basically
like civilians
going into
obviously they they police
so they've got a bit more experience but a lot of them are like counselors and shit they're
definitely not policemen like towards the end i think they were just trying to get like people on
because they just had like a bodyguard on or whatever and these people go in and some of them
shit themselves when i say that within an hour they are out of that jail cell
they they call like they they do the distress signal like some of the toughest looking people
i've seen have like just totally bailed out but if you want to watch a sick program like that
mama bear 60 days in okay i'll check that out jeez it's a trip honestly it's a trip some of them get into it
hey some of them like we go full gangster mode some of them start like running their own
like drug pen like it's intense but yeah man what a good show yes i used to i used to watch it too
mama did you ever show t-wop like look mother look mother, look at my friend. Are you joking me? Listen, listen.
I took that motherfucker.
T-Wop, how many times did we take a drive to the police station?
You want to keep acting like that, my friend?
You want to call me that, son?
Let's go right now.
We're going to the police station.
Go inside, and I stomp in there like a Karen.
I'm like, can you go out there and scare the shit out of my kid?
T-Wop. My mom has done that, mama
baby. You see what I mean? Like, you guys are
look, the scared straight shit, I ain't gonna
lie, like, that's nothing. I'm more scared of
my mom telling me, look, you little shit.
I ain't gonna feed your
ass. I ain't gonna
I ain't gonna do it. Like, if she comes at me
with that, like, oh my god.
I'll stop everything. I don't think
T-Y. I don't think T-Y. I don't think T-Y. I don't
cared. He's like, I'm gonna be a fucking cop.. I'll stop everything. I don't think T-Wop cared.
He's like, I'm going to be a fucking cop.
What are you talking about, bro?
He would hit me back with something like that.
Take me to the station so I can go train.
That's probably what he would have said to me.
Fucking little smart ass.
Oh, my God.
Big time.
Big time, bro.
You're doing me a favor.
Take me.
Take me over there.
I'm going to show them how that shit runs, bro.
I'm going to show them what's up.
What's up, T-Wop?
You're not coming off mute?
Yeah, I am.
Sorry.
I got the little one next to me, so I'm trying to make sense.
That's a nice PFP you got there, bro.
I know, right?
Just wanted to throw that on real quick.
Just copped one off the floor.
I like that. Yo yo rick what do you
think dog what i can't see it bro oh oh oh shit now i can see it it's hard right i need i wait
wait wait bro why am i not i should be for this, but I'm not ready for this. Oh, my God, bro, that's amazing.
Thank you so much, bro.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, of course, man.
This shit's fire.
I'm about to cop some more, too, but this one is really sick.
Well, bro, I'll give you guys some big, big alpha in honor of that.
Oh, now it's updated.
Now it's updated. i signed some papers today that's
all i can say i signed some papers today so whether uh i've been waiting a long time to to put to sign
papers ladies and gentlemen and uh it happened today so um it was a very big day for
me emotional day um and yeah so obviously i had to go through like documents and this this kind
of ties into our ai conversation so what i did was um i got um co-pilot the AI thing to watch my screen and we went through like the whole contract together and just made sure that everything looked good and there was no like nothing out of place.
Double, triple checked it with a couple of others and yeah, all good.
So yeah, probably saved a couple of grand there.
Having to like go to a lawyer
but yeah everything's looking like it's in the works now so man i'll be waiting for this for
like three years and and it is quite a big thing signing those papers today because it felt big to
me it was like ah this is like the moment you know i visioned this in my head for a long
time and now it's happening so yeah man i'm just so happy and i appreciate you twop um for that
pfp that means like the world to me you have no idea yeah man i i've i've looked at them and dude
i've always wanted to get one so i'm glad i was able to you know switch it up and come be a part
of a badass community man so i'm here here until the end bro know switch it up and come be a part of a badass community man so
i'm here here until the end bro i'll be a collector i'll be a holder and you know i'm excited dude
this is this is a fucking badass pfp i have my eyes on a couple other ones but let's also
let's do a space this saturday as well uh shiba saturday where we can talk about your uh your project and everything that you're
doing and then after the space we'll put a channel in the discord where you can i mean bro it's up to
you if you want to do alpha calls or something in there you could uh i'd you know i'd be happy
that's how i started my whole journey in in web 3 was i was making alpha calls in different discords
and gained a huge
following like that so if you want to set up something like that uh we can definitely uh set
something something like that up for you and just to get like because if people are seeing like oh
shit t-wops hitting these calls all the time for sure they're going to go sign up to your class
you know what i mean so it doesn't have to
be consistent calls like every day but like if you make one a week or so and then you just report
back on how the call went that'll get people interested in in taking your course uh i'm just
telling you the way i did it that's the way i ground up uh literally was an alpha call and i
made probably the best alpha call i've ever made in
my whole life i don't think i'll ever make another one like that again there's a project called
goblin town and it was minting for free and i was just telling my the people in my discord
mint this thing it was 0.002 eth at the time which was like nothing because obviously just the fees um so i was like shouting
go him in goblin town go him in goblin town and uh no one was speaking about it mints it out quite
slowly it didn't really pump but then all of a sudden within the next 24 hours people were on
spaces making goblin noises or like on a space for three hours and just absolutely sent um and it went to 18 eth i believe
18 eth from a free mint uh so a lot of the people in my discord minted like a bunch and they were
you can imagine so that put me on the map with like a lot of projects and then after that i became like a consultant um with a
project called web3 just doing web web3 consulting for web2 companies and web3 companies that were
doing like nft mints at the time but uh it all started where you started bro and i signed papers
today so let that let that just be a sign to you of of how how quickly
this journey can happen three years ago as a community member making alpha calls
and now i'm you know basically leading a the my most loved project since the start of of web three
because when i saw the art of mutant shiba, there was something inside me that was just like, man, this is me like DJ,
like bulletproof vest, you know, just everything about it was just like tattoos and everything.
I just love it.
And also the new traits are all like weed traits.
So we got like weed ears, like the ears are weed buds and like a background of like a huge weed stash.
And there's a couple of other cool things that I've got in the works. So obviously
trait swaps and trait mutations are coming up with MSC. And that's something that
people have been waiting for, for almost like three years now for that, because the original
founders airdropped that asset and didn't actually
do anything with it so i'm going to finally deliver that to the pack so people are going to
be over the moon with uh the project again and and hopefully i'm going to pump the life back into
this project uh that is there but man if you think this is there just just wait uh we we we just getting started yeah wait save some for me guys hold on
bro i know i know cj i sent you the link bro let's let's fucking get that shit going bro
mine's prettier bro mine has a love shirt do you see her up at the top damn
how did you make yours a GIF?
I want mine to be a GIF, too.
Dude, I had no idea.
Papa, did you make mine a GIF, honey?
I thought it was all GIFs.
It looks so dope.
I don't know if they're all GIFs, but I feel like somebody gave this to me, right, baby?
Yeah, they are all gifts
so it's uh every every single one of them is animated some of them have less animations than
others so like it will just be like a drip or whatever from the mouth so but we're gonna have
trade swaps soon so if you've got two different shibas and you want to swap one trade onto another you can do that um and then obviously
that is dope i never heard of that yeah and swaps and mutations as well so you're going to mutate
into like a different but you get three chances so you can you'll do the mutation or say do you
want this and then you can either say yes or no and then i'll spin it again and i'll spin it again and in those re-spins we are going to have some assets that could just pop up so it could be a
one of one that you you know you go and change an ear and you get a one of one and then also last
thing is um we have uh three artists that have worked on the collection for the new traits so it's a variety
of different style of traits and so there's something for everyone in in the new uh batch
of traits um they're really wild and crazy we've got like pizza ears like really insane
uh we went all out with the traits to make it look like even crazier then because obviously
it's like super mutated they mutated already but they have to look like even crazier then, because obviously it's like super mutated. They mutated already,
but they have to look like crazy mutated.
So we've gone ahead and done that.
People have been waiting for this dap for two years.
We've also got a mini game on our website,
which is like a little jumper game.
You have to jump to the top.
It's called the Wook Jump.
Bro, there's just so much going on with MSC right now,
and I've just been waiting for this to happen so that I could release it.
I don't want to say too much.
And I've just been keeping quiet about it.
Because until I sign those papers, it's not secured in mind.
But now I can confidently say, yo, I'm going to pump the shit out of this.
i'm gonna pump the shit out of this uh not just in price just in utility like i just want people
Not just in price, just in utility.
that are holding this thing to be so happy with with what they have um yeah so it's just a start
bro and it's a good time i can't believe you change your pfp on the day uh i sign the papers so
yeah let's build together brother as well like i, I'll give you a channel in the Discord. We've got a massive Discord.
Our ex is obviously also, we've got 160,000 on there.
So we'll push your workshop, bro.
That's what we do for all Sheebers, you know?
We support the pack.
So, yeah, that's enough about me.
But, yeah, I just want to say I appreciate you, bro.
I just wanted to say, if it's okay, Rick, as well,
just on the whole GIF kind of animated side of things,
the easiest way to get the move in the animated Shiba
is if you just go to Magic Eden and then like your number of shiba just type that
in open it up in a new tab and it'll be animated you can just save that and the cool thing is in
discord as well that supports like animated pfbs so if you use that as your pfb in the discord
it'll be animated it's pretty cool and yeah like well said rick i can vouch for rick so i've been
kind of like part of that community for three or four months and this dude is every day like in
there dropping alpha doing work for the community so like well said and Back to you. Yeah, bro.
And I appreciate you, Pads.
You're fucking true, Sheba.
Like, bro, I can't say anything else.
Of course, Sheba of the month, two months in a row since he's come in.
So, you know, it's insane.
These guys that are dedicated are really dedicated to the project.
And, bro, I'm going to push them with everything that I can.
So whatever initiative you guys decide to do within Web3,
I'm going to support you guys.
So yeah, I don't want to turn this into MSC space.
Sorry, Mama Bay.
Oh, no, please never apologize, Rick.
You always do so much for me and everybody in the Green Pill Collective.
I think this is exactly how it was supposed to play out. I apologize, Rick. You always do so much for me and everybody in the Green Pill Collective.
I think this is exactly how it was supposed to play out.
So, what's up, T-Walk?
Yo, Pats, are you the one that hit me on Discord?
Let me know that you can do the videos, right?
Or am I mistaken?
I don't think it was, but I'm going to click it. Okay, okay. I was looking. I was like, I don't know who it was. I think it was but i'm gonna cook it okay okay i was looking i was like i don't know who it was i think it was in the green pill club no there was someone um i feel bad now as well
i'll be able to tell you in one second um that that is offered uh to help part of the green
pill collective it is robert i believe is that who it is was it robert i think it was robert uh but yeah um
it's someone from like someone in the green pill collective i think so yeah
yeah i'll definitely oh sorry no it's not it's pixel pixel energy i i thought i thought it was
a piece i thought yes they from they from meta rebels they they also meta rebels is part
of the i actually need to get meta rebels up onto a couple of spaces just so we can get to know them
better but uh they are also part of the green pill collective um very cool project also 3d
uh i think the the mad queen um brought them in so yo awesome community and if they're offering to help with
with that that's it that's a big thing because uh they definitely know their stuff so yeah cool bro
i love to hear it this is what a great day honestly it turned out to be one of my favorite days
uh of the year so far yeah congrats man seriously i can tell that you got a mile for you right there
yeah let's think of the mile right there man yeah yeah and i don't know if you know uh we gotta get uh
cj in the gpc as well he's my business partner in uh spu um he's he does a lot of the uh you know
pattern recognition and he's he's a he's a savant when it comes to you know options trading so he's
definitely taking over that side um taking you know options trading so he's definitely taking you know that
side of things i know right i love that word savant it's a it's a it hits hard you know it
hits different you know i mean so um yeah we definitely gotta get him in there but dude i'm
excited he's definitely gonna be you know changing his pfp here so i don't know if it's gonna be
you know himself or you know he's gonna run with the dogs and you know rock one of them. So we'll see
Yeah, i'm gonna get one, you know
When I say something I fucking do it. So
I was just gonna say cj if you see that one up at the top the eyes fucking move
I haven't even been able to look too much at this collection. I mean i'll be totally honest
I got go look at the one of ones. Just go go look at the one of ones just just just
look at the one of ones they're called bulveracks oh my god yeah none of them are listed so it's
like man you look at me like fuck like no one you know i mean but i'm telling you guys like you guys
gotta go check them out like i'm i'm definitely gonna acquire some as time goes on i sent my dad
like three or four of them i was like dude i don't know which one to get um Like we were talking on the back. I said, I want to change it in the space.
You know, I want to change it because I didn't even know. I like the crystals too. There's
crystals coming out of mine. So yeah, because I got I got like mushrooms come out of mine,
you know, out of the top. And then my my eyes, they have like these like LEDs that go around my,
you know, my eyes the entire time,
which is kind of cool.
I don't know.
It's dope.
I'm excited.
I wonder if they have one smoking a blunt or something.
Oh, bro, they got everything.
One's drooling and it has a blunt in its mouth.
It's fucking sick.
Rick, one question for you about your traits flop. Were you planning to do that as kind of like a a free thing or were you going to be like trying to do that right
so yeah so no uh no fun so basically ah shit i didn't mention this so we haven't so what
happened was there was a collection that they at the original founders airdropped to everyone uh
in the pack that had a shiba um and that was airdropped to on an erc 1155 contract which
which is an open c contract type of thing and you can't really see it on other platforms some of
them allow you to but you know like if you go on magic eden you won't see it if you go on a lot of these other trading platforms so they got airdropped to a bunch to to all holders now
you got to remember this was the heart of the bull market there were a lot of tourists that
were in the space that just wanted to like flip or mint or like just buy an nft and a lot of them
bought and just disappeared so a lot of the collection is dormant that will never
probably come back to life and when it comes to the antidotes which is the collection that was
airdropped that now is sitting in a lot of people's hidden wallets because if you send an 1155
token to anyone on openc it goes to the hidden wallet so not only are they not able to
see it on blur and magic eden they also don't see it on open sea so there's so many dead wallets
with antidotes now the situation is you're going to have to burn an antidote to do a trade swap
and you're going to get three chances but you're going to be able to re-roll all trades so you could like re-roll an entire new shiba three times and just each through each
roll just hold on to the traits that you like so you're basically building a customized shiba with
with limitations because obviously we're not just going to let people do whatever but
with limitations you could kind of build out like
papa bear you know as a shiba uh whatever represents you through the the all the different
traits you're going to get the trade options through the the re-rolls um so at the moment
we have the anti-load collection uh which you can see probably on openSea. I think it's probably the only place you can catch it.
And I think that at the moment we have 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17.
We have 17 listed under 0.03.
So under 0.0, everything else is under 0.03 so under 0.0 everything else is under 0.03 so if you include everything we've got
29 listed antidotes out of 10 000 um and like i say that's just because a lot of them are lost so
what i'm planning to do with this is i'm going to use this token like a currency so i'm not only
going to let people burn it for antidotes i'm going to do
giveaways to like a ticket to the ufc all expenses paid like all these cool different events and
different like a one of one maybe that that will be made specifically from for you by our artist
which is a huge valuable prize that will be on chain of course and doing these type
of things and the only way you'll be able to get those is by burning antidote so what i want to do
is create scarcity with the antidote so that it almost disappears and you can't get them anymore
at which stage we'd have to launch we'd have to um do another drop uh drop for all holders to continue to use. Now, how would we allocate
that drop? Holdings, maybe a staking mechanism. There's going to be a lot of ways that I'm
going to be able to implement that and reward people that are loyal. So that's just in the
future when all the antidotes do run out but right now the only way
to kind of mutate your your shiba is going to be by burning an antidote um but again i give away
antidotes all the time so if you show up to spaces and stuff uh you'll more than likely be able to at
least win one antidote so you can do a bunch of mutations and i'm sure people will list like
you know i hope people list so that
other people that want to go and mutate have that opportunity i don't want it to be a situation that
people can't use the dap so yeah i'll make sure that people can continue using the dap no matter
what whether that means us having to drop another 11.55 or do something like that. But we'll do some cool stuff, bro.
But yeah, I hope that very long answer answers your question, Papa.
Oh, that's really cool.
You're giving me a few ideas for, you know,
we've got a similar, you know, old collection that, you know,
we have our hands in that, you know, we might be, uh, you know, we have our hands in that,
you know,
we might be able to try to help revive somehow.
So we'll,
we might have to talk about it over the dinner table and see what we can
suggest.
Yep.
It's true.
You mean you don't want to wait around for people anymore?
Me neither.
I'm so tired of that shit.
You know, sometimes holding your dick in your
hand and waiting for somebody else to save you doesn't work just sometimes just say no
yeah we've we've actually got other side assets so we've got a a coder we've got like a few
other deeds as well because we plan on building on on that that um ecosystem but it's taking so
long that i'm like fuck it like i like honestly i'm not going to sit around and wait i'm just
going to go now and look for maybe nifty island and build out like a little uh shiba island for
the shibas because it just it's taking way too long man even. Even though I will still build on yoga, that doesn't mean I'm canceling
the plans. It just means that
I want something else until that happens
because, like you
say, sitting around waiting with your
dick in your hand just doesn't
help anyone sometimes.
Exactly.
Sushi, you get your hand up.
Yes, yes, I do. I do. Because Rick was, Rick was, I mean, he was, he was going to be motivated, man. He was talking, he was talking that talk I like to hear. web two game but this web two game will feature web three assets and i was um kind of looking at
your profile here and looking at all of the pfps that everybody has kind of down in the chat and
or not in the chat but in the audience and um i really like these uh i really like these mutant
shibas uh and i don't know like what kind of pool you have or anything, but what we're doing is we're trying to essentially allow holders of NFTs to generate revenue without having to, like, you know, sell them or, you know, do anything with them.
Just kind of hold them and let them make money for you.
And so it's a long spiel.
I don't really like, I don't want to take up too much time
because I don't know how long the space is.
But ultimately, I would like to have a conversation
about what that would look like,
maybe getting some of those guys in game
and getting some of your holders
or giving some of your holders the ability to generate revenue.
And I'm not sure like who's in charge of the project or whatever.
We do also allocate like a percentage to uh the project so that we can actually use the ip
in game so if there's a conversation you're willing to have um my dms are definitely open
and i definitely would like to have some of these guys in the game we got a couple of folks on board
already and so uh we're launching this month too so it's not like something that's like way out
it's gonna happen one day like we're launching this month it'll probably be closer to the end
of the month than not but we got a lot of cool things going on and i would definitely like to
get you guys involved let's go bro let's go that's awesome to share i i it's funny because i've seen
you been talking a little bit on your timeline about what you've got going on.
I was like, I need to hit this guy up and find out what has he got planned here?
What's going on with this thing?
So if there's anything you want to spill the beans or share or talk about or whatever, we're all yours, just so you know.
100%.
100%.
So, yeah, I'll definitely spill some beans here.
Just kind of on how it works.
Ultimately,
it's a trading card
game,
but it is web 2
based. We do have
visions of...
There will be web 3 capabilities to it,
but not right at launch, not MVP.
It's really more a play on um making a really fun game for people to play that's like a trading card game and um it
actually will utilize multiple different ips right where almost like a multiverse of sorts where
anybody from any collection um will be able to kind of get their NFTs featured in game.
And then those NFTs will be sold in card packs and stuff like that.
And also be able to be earned in game.
It's a really cool dynamic.
Like the meta that we put together.
Actually, I'm upset that Anthony left because he's my co-developer on this.
my, he's my co-developer on this. Um, but ultimately, yeah, it's just, it's just going to be
a fun game, a fun web two game experience. And we're just taking, just a note out of the Pudgy
Penguins book, right? Like build web two first, build a fun game first, get, uh, allow people who
aren't in a web three, uh, get access to, uh, this, this game, right, and not, like, kind of exclude them and make them
have to go down the curve, the learning curve, to be able to enjoy Web3 content. And so this,
like I said, we're doing it in reverse. We're doing it a little different. And we're trying
to get as many people as involved as possible because we want like communities to be able to benefit from this.
Not just like, you know, the few people that we know or that I know, but like actual communities across across the across the space.
And so that'll obviously like help with adoption.
And then, you know, it'll bring kind of the element where the goal is like for it to be, you know, you get your, you know, you have your team on,
and then, you know, there may be another team from another community, and you guys will kind
of have this new dynamic battle. It's not like a traditional game in terms of like a trading card
game, like how you would battle just one opponent. It's like a team type of aspect to it. And it's a different spin. And so, I mean, like I said, it'll be out this month.
Like I said, closer to the end of the month
where we're finishing development
and getting ready to allow folks to come in,
like, press test and be able to give us some feedback,
be able to see if everything is, you know,
where do you feel?
Is that me rugging or him?
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, that was pretty much it.
Anybody who's involved, anybody who's interested in being involved or has a...
Look, Anthony came back in.
Can you guys still hear me?
Can you hear me?
We're fine.
Okay, cool.
Edwin. Yeah. Okay, perfect. Perfect. Yeah, it looked like Anthony's back in. Can you guys still hear me? Can you hear me? Okay, cool. Okay, perfect.
It looks like Anthony's back in here.
He's my co-developer.
We're just trying to, like I said, make a really fun game
and get as many communities
as possible involved.
If anybody in the audience is interested or
if you know somebody who may be interested,
feel free to reach out to myself or Anthony
and we'll try to get
your communities involved. We're really close to launch, and I've been involved with a lot of
different projects, as some of you may know, and this is one of those things where I really kept
it close to my desk. It's actually, you know, something that I'm doing, me and Anthony are
doing together, and I didn't want to you know you know you know how
web 3 is it's all hype right you hear about a thing and then you know certain things kind of
kind of uh fall by the wayside and you don't have control of it and so I wanted to be able to
keep this close to my chest until I knew it was ready and now it's that time so
yeah yeah if you want to be involved, now's the time to take action.
I got a question, Toshi.
How do I get involved?
You know, I heard about this thing that you're building, and it sounds pretty cool.
I'm just joshing. I had to slide for half a second to eat dinner with the family,
and my Bluetooth died, so I didn't want to expose them to the tech jargon. But I think he's speaking
about the game not highly enough. It is a very fun game, and we're really excited to expose this to the
Web3 universe, even though
it's a Web2 game. I think it's
super dope and collaborative,
and I think you guys will enjoy it.
Yeah, I'm down to chat, and I also just
want to say, we
also part of a collective.
All of us, like most of the PFPs
that you see in this chat uh so what
we had our first uh collective meeting tonight it's over 20 projects that have banded together
and just basically support each other and lift each other up so that's how we get like a lot
of engagement a lot of people uh supporting each other on on the timelines within our community
um so i'm sure within the collective you know, we can definitely link you up.
And I would personally love to speak to you about it from Mutant Shiba standpoint.
That sounds amazing.
It sounds like something that we'd love to be involved with.
So yeah, bro, let's continue this chat.
And like I say, we've got this collective.
So, you know, there's 20 other potential projects that that that
you could speak to uh that we can almost well we can vouch for all of those because we vetted every
single one of the the projects that's in our collective so thus far um so yeah that that's
how the collective works is a full vetting system making sure that no one's rugged or got nefarious
parts and uh then we just kind of uh support each other man and it's been going so well today we had
i think we had like 23 or 24 founders present uh at the meeting tonight so it was crazy like
our first collective meeting so the next one you know we're looking like this could get to like 50
to 100 projects easily um by the summer so just imagine 50 or 60 honest founders working together
supporting each other's projects on the timeline in spaces uh we're gonna drown out all these kols
and these fake shills that we see on the on the timeline uh this fake hype bullshit so uh yeah
man glad to have met you bro and uh you know definitely want to see how we can collaborate
further and of course the door to the collective is open whether you're in web 3 or not you know
if it's a web 2 game uh the the door is still open as long as people are honest and they're
showing up and they're on spaces and they're, they're, they're timeline,
they're active on the timeline. Like that's all we want is, is those people.
We don't want the extractors. So yeah, man,
blessed to have have spoken to you today.
The universe is definitely putting some things into work.
So yeah, thanks, man.
Thanks, Toshi.
Thanks, Anthony.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I don't know if I was, I think I was rugged there.
I'm sorry, y'all.
But yeah, yeah.
It's definitely the universe working, man.
Cinco de Mayo.
You know, I think that's what it is.
Cheers to that.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I was just going to kind of push further on that.
Yeah, we're definitely all part of the Green Pill Collective. And I think that so many of us have been around and involved in so many projects. And we're tired of the bullshit. We're tired of the extraction. We're tired of the separation and the divisiveness and the drama and the mass reporting accounts and fucking each other up just because, you know,
this jealousy PVP bullshit. And that's why I resonate so much with so many people in here.
Like they always say you attract your tribe. And that is absolutely true. You know, you've got
big man with the socks. You've got, you've got EAC actually up here on the stage right now. We've got Mutant
Shiba. We got Tricky, Crypto Stoners, Solana Deads. We've got Solana Deads. We've got Solana
Strays. Everybody, Pup is in here. Fantastic artist. Just to throw a couple names out there,
tech. These guys are really passionate about what they do. And we
don't give a shit what chain you're from, what PFP you have. We just want to lift each other up.
And it's going to be so great when we get louder because we're kind of building in silence. But
again, we are attracting our tribe and that's going to be louder than anything around. And
when people start seeing us move as one and move with intention,
they're going to want to be in, you know, with the Green Pill Collective. They're going to want to be
having people surround them who actually give a shit, who don't want to put them down. So
I realize it's very exclusive right now, but that's what we want. And it's really dope too,
because we have so many, so many people who are not only just passionate about things, but that's what we want. And it's really dope too, because we have so many,
so many people who are not only just passionate about things, but have that tech knowledge base
and people are vetted. You can't just seem like a cool guy that jumps on stage and is like, yo,
bro, what's up? Let's do this. No, like we don't want to hurt each other. And that's the whole point is just to build together.
So yeah, when I met everybody, huge shout out to AJ.
AJ's the one who brought these guys to me.
And I was like, oh, fuck this.
This is my family now, you know.
So I'm excited.
I don't know, you guys.
I don't know, you guys. I think it's going to be good to show people that they have an alternative because the reality is it's our responsibility in this space to show the other people and to bring normies in and for them to have a safe space to be, not just to move in unison and be told what PFP to wear.
I think it's going to be good to show people that they have an alternative.
PFP to wear and you have to have the check mark and you have to engage with this. And if you don't
retweet this, something is watching you. And if you don't do this and you know what I mean,
continually being hurt. So that's, it's our job. It's our responsibility. And I think it's,
it's going to really explode. And it's so nice that there's an alternative, you know?
Oh, I've got off my soapbox now. We are going to be closing up here in a
couple of minutes. Toshi, it's a pleasure. It's always so great to talk to you. I'm super excited
for what you and Antony are doing too. So definitely hit up Rick. Rick, I'm glad that
you got your paper signed. I don't know what that means exactly. It's okay
that you can't tell us everything, but just huge kudos and congratulations to you because
you are so fucking real. You show everybody so much love and kindness every day. And I'm excited
that T-WAP picked that up and kind of made that wave happen because it's so well deserved. So, yeah.
Yeah, I appreciate you.
Obviously, I can't say everything, but yeah, basically, I've just signed papers to finalize
what I've been speaking about, which is basically taking over MSC as a project.
Obviously, I've been running it for a while now,
but that hasn't been within my control
when it comes to funds or any moves that the project makes.
Obviously, it's hard to do that with people
that are unfortunately, very unfortunately,
not able to be around because of IRL circumstances.
So we've just had to change everything so that things can be executed. And so those are the
papers that I've signed without saying everything blatantly. Yeah. Well, I haven't been here on your
journey. I just know the little bit that I know. I just know you put a lot of heart into everything
you do and you're seen. Just know that you're seen. You are valued and we all just appreciate and love you
and care for you. You know, that's what you do for us. And so I'm excited to see this shit just
soar. And I will be one of your top, I'll be, I can't say bitches. I'm not going to say that word.
I'll be one of your top people out here with the female uh forcing and you know
getting more women involved in being loud on the timeline so fuck it we ride right i'm excited so
i'm just a supporter you guys i love it i love it like i feel the energy and
what like i'm even thinking like for sure you know as soon as we set up everything, I want to make factions and have a mental health type of space within MSC.
Because we used to have that channel, but just over time, obviously the channel being inactive, I've just taken it away.
But we had a mental health channel.
health channel we had like a woman's chat channel where women a parents chat channel as well where
parents could discuss uh different parental um stuff so catering almost to everyone in the
community uh but i'll bring all that shit back it's just obviously you know we we we need to
rebuild again and the good thing is that the foundation is there. That to me was the most
important thing when accepting the challenge ahead, is that we have a very strong foundation.
So I'm excited. And I just want to say thank you guys. Like I said, I think yesterday, the last
three months or four months, actually, it's almost five months into the, I think three months or four months, actually it's almost five months into the, I think three months since we've been running
the Green Pill Collective,
have been more rewarding in my Web3 journey
than the three years and something before.
So that goes to show you that,
imagine in the last three months,
I've made more friendships
that I think will stand the test of times
than I did the three years before.
And that was because everyone in the discords before was just chasing a whitelist,
chasing some sort of like payout, and then they dip.
Whereas now we're actually forming true bonds.
And it's very hard to do that in Web3 because it's such a fast-paced environment nonstop.
You catch people on the timeline, you don't see them again.
Like some people just disappear off your timeline but what we're creating here is like true friendship to true
collaboration uh true support and man you feel it you know you feel it in the green pill collective
you feel like damn i've got all of these projects around me that have got my back i've got all these
people around me like it's just it just makes
the space feel a lot better than you living this lonely life of like trying to degen for a little
flip like that's that's not what word three was ever going to be about so we're changing the
meta we're taking back the timeline as a big man likes to always say, and we're going to rock this.
Yeah, I love it.
No, you're absolutely right.
We are.
We're going to rock it.
We're going to be so loud.
People are going to be like, holy shit.
Why didn't I look over there before?
What's going on over there?
What's going on in their neighborhood?
Yep, good shit.
Papa, without further ado, your wife is hungry.
I am ready to go.
If you guys are ready to go.
Yeah.
You want to shut it down?
Sounds good.
Thank you guys all for showing up.
And we'll be back at this tomorrow.
Oh, wait.
Tomorrow it's going to be partially present, isn't it? Tomorrow it's partially.
Papa loves it when it's partially present he gets a kick out of
it i don't know if you guys knew one of my spaces i wasn't able to be there but i had like a procedure
or something and this man makes an image of me disappearing as if i'm dying and does this as the
intro so he loves to make these partially present, but good luck to you, Papa on the space tomorrow.
yeah,
I'll be in Seattle driving and I can't be on a space at that time.
Cause it would be bad.
Yep.
looks like it'll be partially present.
And,
with M and T Wop.
Quack life's going to come through.
You guys come show Papa some love tomorrow.
He's going to need some love because Papa doesn't like to talk a lot.
Yeah.
It might be a short space.
No, or I'll just, who knows?
Maybe I will just break out the encyclopedia and start reading off random
letters.
You never know.
You never know.
He won't.
He won't.
Don't worry. All right. Well, I guess You never know. He won't. He won't. Don't worry.
Alright. Well,
I guess you'll have to find out tomorrow
by coming to Partially Present
at 4 o'clock
Papa Standard Time, 7 o'clock
on the East Coast.
Until then, take care of yourself,
do something kind,
and move with
intention. We'll see you tomorrow.
