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Presently Present with Mama & Papa 🧸💜🐝 Beeish Present Reveal
Recorded: April 26, 2025 Duration: 2:06:12Space Recording
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In a vibrant discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the latest trends, partnerships, and fundraising efforts shaping the industry. Key insights included the significance of token launches and the increasing demand for skilled professionals, reflecting a dynamic growth phase in the crypto ecosystem.
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Thank you. I'm going to go. hey you got some new music
yeah that's what we'll call it
their music is so annoying to me
we should be able to like you know
have it automatically kind of just record our own and have them
play it instead.
Wouldn't that be cool?
Yeah.
And we got to get the music figured out.
A lot of other spaces do it.
We just haven't figured it out.
Oh, we have.
It just, I don't, I don't know.
Sometimes it works well.
Sometimes it doesn't.
I don't know what to say.
Are you still outside?
I am. I actually, I even moved.
I am on location.
It's actually very nice out.
Yeah?
Should I post a picture?
You can, but just make sure that it's not like our address.
Place. Actually, I don't even know where the house number is on here but that's why i'm saying bro i know it's over there but
now i feel like i'm i'm like babs like taking a picture of of my, but it's really my front yard.
Yeah.
That's okay.
Showing people what you see.
Dude, Grok pisses me off.
Grok really makes me mad.
Grok doesn't work with me well.
Maybe I just don't work well with Grok.
Maybe do you need to just know how to talk to him?
Is it him or her?
That's a good question.
I don't know what Grok is, but Grok is making me angry.
That's okay.
I just need to walk away from it.
This is what happens. I get in my head, and I'm like, okay, I got need to walk away from it. It's what happens.
I get in my head and I'm like, okay, I got to get this done and this done and this done.
And then it doesn't work out.
And then I get all irritated and, you know.
But sometimes when I'm frustrated, I just need to walk away.
Just walk away.
Nod your head and smile. Nod my head and smile.
So I have to say I'm pretty happy right now.
My pain is finally lifting.
But I still have like hazy eyes.
Does that make sense?
Have you ever had hazy?
Have you ever woken up and as you look around, it's like blurry but hazy?
That's how my eyes feel right now.
Kind of like when you still have like the goop in your eyes That's how my eyes feel right now. Kind of like when,
when you still have like the goop in your eyes when you're first waking up.
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah. It's almost like a film.
It just seems strange, but yeah, at least,
at least the pain is subsiding, which is beautiful.
Oh, liquids here.
What's up liquid.
Hey guys. which is beautiful oh liquid's here what's up liquid hey guys so i i assume you were this is what you're talking about is kind of coming off of yesterday because today or yesterday was an
off day yeah yeah it was yesterday all night before last all day yesterday all night actually
until about 20 minutes ago um i, I've had a horrible, horrible
migraine. Yikes. Speaking of, speaking of gunk in the eye. Yes. Um, uh, it reminded,
what Papa just said, it reminded me of, um, I think it was maybe like 13 or 14 years old.
And my, my younger sister, um, I had to wake her up one Saturday morning.
And I've never heard of this or seen this ever since then. But I went to wake her up. She's six
years younger than me. And when she goes to open her eyes, she can't because both of her eyes are
completely crusted over. And she tried to open her eyes and she couldn't and she's just
like she just started screaming and um as the brother i thought it was it's it's not funny but
it was funny because i've never never seen anything like that where have you ever seen
where the crust the booger eye boogers are so bad that it completely
your eyes shut i have it's it's usually conjunctivitis right the pink eye um did she
not have an infection in her eyes well i guess that's when we realized she did i mean i wasn't
aware of anything i just woke her up and she was, I think it actually, I think it actually happened to
Papa.
He told me before we met, didn't it babe?
You got it in both your eyes.
I was literally going to say that.
That sounds exactly like when I got pink, I woke up that one day and, and it was like,
I literally could not open my eyes because they were like crusted shut.
And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
It freaked me out.
I think that was my first time, at least, at least as a, uh, an aware adult.
I, I'm sure it might've happened as maybe a kid or a baby or whatever.
But the first time I was like, what the hell?
Yeah.
Right.
That's crazy.
Yeah. And it's so fucking contagious pink eye oh gosh it's like so highly contagious my boys used to say it's from farting on each other's pillows but I don't
think that's actually true I don't know why people get pink eye but um yeah eyes are weird eyes are kind of cool though if you think about eyes
i like eyes papa cannot have anybody touch his eyes does anybody wear contacts that's on stage
i do not you do not papa could never oh you do jed okay yep i'll have some eye cancer in like 30 years, I'm sure. Oh, shit.
Papa can't touch his eyes at all.
Did it take you a while to get used to it?
I started wearing them when I was like 14.
Okay.
I don't even need a mirror now.
Just part of life.
Yep.
That makes sense.
How are you doing today?
I'm doing pretty good. Yeah? I'm doing pretty life. Yep. That makes sense. How are you doing today? I'm doing pretty good.
Yeah?
I'm doing pretty good.
Yeah.
Did you have a productive day?
I'll say yes.
Good.
Got a lot of things done, but there's still a lot to do.
But there's no hurry, so I'm not trying to stress out.
Yeah.
I'm still waiting for that cold plunge to get cold
oh okay it's down to like 50 degrees right now I'm trying to wait for it to get to 40
how often do you do it well I haven't done a full cold plunge in like probably like eight, nine months. Um, I, I used to do it like three times
a week, but it got really, uh, it got really expensive cause I just had an animal trough
and I was filling it with water and then getting bags of ice and it would just, I mean, it was
like 25, $30 of ice. Like every time I wanted to use it and that shit did not last long.
Like, I mean, it was pretty much one-time use you know
right yeah my buddy actually has does the same thing currently and that's what he was saying
he's like dude this stuff we're in texas and like it's just the ice starts costing way too much
yeah yeah and then i was like i'm looking into industrial like makers and shit. And it's like, for the price of them, you could just get a cheap chiller.
I got to really...
Go to a fucking hotel, brother.
Get all the ice you want.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I was like, fuck it.
Let me get this thing.
Because it's for my health, in a sense. I mean, not in a sense it is it's for my health.
I feel like actually Jed, that might be a write-off.
Maybe. I don't know. I say it is. Tell those fuckers.
I'm trying to get my house set up so that I don't need to pay for a gym
membership anymore. Um, they don't have a cold
plunge at the gym. So, you know, that's a plus regardless, but the next goal is to get a sauna.
Um, but I have a greenhouse with a heater and it gets pretty hot in there and my attic gets hot.
So I might be able to make do for a little while without, without that, but I ain't going to get
up to all the saunas that get to like 190 200 like they're
pretty fucking expensive so i bet they have infrared ones now though right yeah they do um
there's a few cheap infrared ones you can get on amazon for like three four hundred bucks like
they're like just literally pop-up tents that you walk in and they got a little heater and stuff
like for one person but they only get up to like 140 degrees, which isn't, it's not bad for anybody starting,
but, uh, I 140 degrees won't do shit for me. So kind of need to, you know, just keep going to the
gym sauna and hopefully I can get a good sauna. That'll go up to the temperatures that I want.
Is that gym memberships expensive every
month, dude? I have no fucking idea. Well, mine's 50 a month. And it's, I mean, really,
the gym isn't all that. I mean, it's really not all that. But they have a sauna and that is worth
it to me. Right. Plus, the gym atmosphere is nice, you know, gets you in that workout mood kind of faster,
keeps you a little bit more accountable, I guess.
But would your wife use it too?
Like, will she use the cold plunge in the sauna?
Oh, I think she would use the sauna.
I don't know if she's going to fuck with the cold plunge.
I could probably get her to, you know, dip her feet in it once or twice, but I don't know if it'll be for her.
But I mean, it's, that's the thing. Anybody that does cold plunge, you had said it earlier,
you commented on my post, Mom, Mary, you said, I hope you get to enjoy your cold plunge later.
And I was thinking in my head, I wasn't going to say it then, but it's so funny. Like the words and joy and cold plunge do not belong in the same sentence ever.
Like no matter how much you do it, no matter how much, you know, you're used to it from
everybody that I know that does it, it's always a fucking challenge.
Like when you get out there in the morning, especially if you do it first thing in the
fucking morning, like some people like dude it's like god
you gotta really just commit and it is fucking brutal i don't know if i could do it what's up
oh sorry yeah i was actually interestingly reading an article the other day on cold lunches
where they'd done some research on it
and they were saying actually it doesn't really offer too many benefits
they compared it to like people
they did an experiment of like
12 and 12 so 12 people would take them after their exercises and stuff
12 people wouldn't and there was no notable difference
in like actual gains or strengths or anything like
that which i thought was interesting because obviously you know there's other research that
goes oh no it helps with your muscle soreness and stuff which i believe it does but in terms of
actual like helping you recover and build faster there are the people who didn't take and build muscle just as fast interestingly yeah that is
interesting i wouldn't mind reading that because uh there there is a lot of a lot of data i haven't
heard anything supporting the opposite um i'd be interested to know who those resources are and uh
yeah i'll have to try and find it for you because it was like late one night
when i came across it so i'll have to try and find it and i'll dm me but i just thought that
was interesting and you know i would i guess you know in the sense it does reduce your physical
soreness but it doesn't necessarily increase your actual recovery time it just kind of numbs it off for you personally i would say that that
is interesting because i i have had some of my best runs and workouts like the day like and i i
literally like it was probably 2021 i had ran three and a half miles every single day of the
month i had no days off and i shedded weight like crazy. But I,
there was a few times there throughout that month that I swear, I was like, dude,
I cannot work out tomorrow. I'm too beat. I'm too sore. And then I get in a fucking cold plunge for
three and a half minutes, get out of there. All your inflammation just goes away. You get a huge
boost of neuroepronephrine that gets released in your brain.
It makes you feel good and all that kind of shit.
And it lasts for hours.
And I'd wake up the next morning and go right to the gym and crush it.
Like, so from my personal experience anyway, it definitely felt like it helped me recover.
Whether that was an illusion or not, I don't know.
But they have been finding out too lately,
like, you know, there's a testosterone kind of pandemic, I guess you could say, or epidemic,
you know, where, uh, yeah, a lot of, a lot of middle-aged males, younger and younger
having really, really low, low levels of testosterone. And, um, they used to say,
oh, you should do a cold plunge, like a few hours after you work out. Uh, that way you don't, um, they used to say, Oh, you should do a cold plunge like a few hours after
you work out. Uh, that way you don't screw up your muscles, you know, cause if you, if you get
in a cold plunge right after your workout, it, uh, what is it? High, high, high perpetuity,
high perpetuity. I forgot what the fuck it's called. You like take your muscles out of that
really quick and it can actually deter your growth of the muscles. But now they're saying that you do
it before you work out and you actually get like tenfold the amount of natural testosterone, uh,
growth, uh, just from doing it beforehand. Um, and there's this, there's a documentary on cold,
uh, cold weather and people. And, um, there's a, there's some's some guy he like he like had stage like three
cancers some shit and he started cold plunging every day and his fucking cancer like completely
went away like they didn't they couldn't explain it but there's like some theory that the cold
could be a way to fight the growth of cancer cells too um I mean, this is also new.
I guess it's one of
those as well, though, where you don't
like, because everybody's body's different.
It reacts differently.
And then also, you can't
underestimate, like, a placebo effect
because obviously there's been a lot done on
that. Like, you know, if someone is convinced
that this will work,
the brain has a strange power to
make it work it's quite wild to be honest but it also has like a um kind of like a a good um
i guess mental discipline aspect to it as well if you're able to withstand the coldness, that kind of helps you build up that mental fortitude and stuff.
That's true.
Yeah.
I guess, like I say, I think it just depends.
I think it will help a lot of people.
It just depends on the person.
Like me personally, when I worked out a lot,
I used to work out seven days a week when I was younger.
It was pretty crazy that I did that. I used to work out seven days a week when i was younger it's pretty
crazy that i did that i used to get told all the time i was crazy but mentally i was like this
doesn't bother me um so you know i guess it really you know that is also a placebo in itself
so you know i guess it helps people in that sense too is what i'm trying to say
I guess it helps people in that sense too, is what I'm trying to say.
Yeah.
And it's not a, you know, none of this fitness shit is one size fits all.
You know what I mean?
It's like, there's so many variables.
Oh, absolutely.
And that's the hardest bit about fitness.
Because you don't really know what your genetics are like.
Even unless you physically have someone look at your blood your history
you know your dna basically so yeah it's always a hard bit i often like question too so like
studies that are done like i like to know like the details of the study like of the people in
each group because like for instance they'll say you know oh red meat is bad for you we did a
uh you know a study on 100 000 people who eat red meat every day and you know this is their
health situation and it's like oh do you eat meat you know like that's the question do you eat meat
and they're like yeah i had a double cheeseburger from mcdonald's three times this week i eat meat
you know and that's the study like so i uh yeah i'm always curious
about that shit yeah me too because it's very like you say it's very easily manipulated uh my
brother-in-law his mom actually is a statistician she does a lot of clinical statistics and
she tells me all the time like how much it's manipulated like you know if they know
they can't get a result they will reduce sample size until they get the result they want
yeah it's fucking crazy yeah it is crazy so it makes it very hard to trust anything
i think you've just got to go with what your intuition and your body tells you personally, I think. Yeah. Babs just cried. I was just going to say that.
Sorry, Babs. No, it's so good. I know I've cried for the statisticians that they, that they,
they fake the results, but regarding cold stuff, I haven't do, I haven't done cold plunges, but I do cold shower every day. And it is like when you said, yeah, it is have fun. No, it's never fun.
But it's always good. Let's put it that way. And like for me, it definitely,
whether it's, I think it's the cold exposure, but like if you study some of the stuff that
Wim Hof does and read some of the different things about him and cold exposure, such interesting stuff.
But for me, I know that my actual blood work as far as like my cholesterol and a couple other different markers actually improved.
And the only thing different I did was starting cold showers.
So do you only take a cold shower? Like,
is it the whole shower? You got to tell me. Cause so, so I started out like, I just started out
baby, baby, baby steps. So like I would take a warm shower and then at the very end I, I'd turn
it to cold and I would do like two breaths. Um, and now now, like, during the summertime here, I pretty much take, I just, I step into it cold, which is like brutal.
Like if I have, if it's a day where I'm actually fully washing my hair, then I, then I won't do it because it's not good to have that, that much cold on your top of your head.
So I, so if I'm doing that, then I, then I'll start warm.
And, but if I just mentally can't get myself into the cold one, I'll say, okay, you could just go in and start warm.
But, yeah, so now pretty much most days, I would say the majority of days, I just take a full cold shower.
Wow, that's awesome.
It is.
And just because, like, my blood work totally changed, it makes sense to me.
Like if I think about it, like,
cause one of the things that Wim Hof talks about,
if you guys don't know who Wim Hof is, he's the ice man.
Who's he's, he's an incredible,
like if you ever get a chance to listen to his audio book or whatever,
but so like I started it and it just made,
made a difference. And like I was saying, in my,
in my chemistry and my body chemistry in my, you know, it supposedly helps you burn brown fat
better than other things. But what it does is like the, your blood vessels are all kind of like,
there's a huge amount. I can't remember what I said, but it was some crazy amount of miles worth
of blood vessels in your body. And when it gets exposed to cold, they clamp down.
So part of it is working on your cardiovascular system,
your different hormone systems, all of those other things.
So I have found it to be helpful.
That's all I can say.
But start slow is what I do.
And then just kind of build yourself up.
I have to use a timer for a while. Um, because, because after a while I was like, okay, I got to do more than two seconds,
three seconds. So then I started going like, okay, 15 seconds, did that 15 seconds for a week. And
then I said, okay, 30 seconds for a week. Um, you know, and, and built up from there. So it doesn't
necessarily have to be on the top of your head. It can just be the front of your body, the front of your body, back of your body. Yeah. It's not actually supposed to
be like fully on the top of your head. Okay. Um, for like that very, very cold. I don't think it,
I don't think that that's actually recommended. Like when I watched Wim Hof, like when he was
doing his, he doesn't actually, he like, if you do it just for a second or two, right. Um, but
he doesn't put his whole, and the cold plunges, you don't really usually go under like he goes under. But most people do their cold plunges don't plunge
their head under. Right. Right. Because it can cause like, and especially for you, Mama Bear,
you be careful when you do it, just make sure it does not aggravating migraines. It can sometimes
help migraines, but it could also aggravate them. So you don't you want to be really careful. So in all of these things, D-Y-O-R.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. No, it's, it's so, it's so interesting. I actually had first seen it.
I know it's becoming more popular now, but I had seen it several years ago. Um, I'm sure you guys
have heard me talk about this. This lady had some really traumatic events happen in her life and she
just could not get past it. And, um, I'm sure this was
also for visuals and video and, you know, all that good stuff, but, um, she literally was, it was like
snow and there was this, you know, there was ice underneath, you know, like the water down below.
And she actually went like inside and, um, I guess just how that helped her tremendously.
So, I don't know.
It's, I feel powerful.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
You feel very powerful.
Interesting.
Even still nowadays.
I mean, and afterwards, you'd think you'd be cold, but no, I'm not cold afterwards.
It does feel like, I think Papa Bear was saying, it's kind of like this matter of will.
So, it's like my will is working over my small mind that wants to tell me, no, don't do this.
Right.
It's uncomfortable to do that.
Right.
That's uncomfortable.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Oh, Liquid has his hand up now.
Yeah.
I just wanted to say a couple things.
First, Wim Hof is the man. He has basically learned how to regulate his body
temperature and he climbed Mount Everest in just shorts, barefoot and no frostbite, nothing because
he has complete control over the temperature of his body, which is absolutely incredible.
And it's funny, we're talking about this. Literally like 10 days ago, I started right
before I go to sleep, I jump in a really hot shower for
a couple minutes and then I turn the water off of me. I turn it all the way to as cold as it'll get.
And then I put it on me and shock my body right before I go into bed. And I've done that eight
out of the last 10 nights. And every single night I get into the bed doing that, I feel so good from that euphoric
shock that you get and I sleep so deep. And I think it might kind of correlate in with what
Mimer was saying about that study saying that there's no results coming from muscle strength
wise. I don't know, maybe in this regard, when you go to sleep and you get a deeper, better sleep, there's much more of a healing sleep that happens, which is a better
recovery for your body. I don't know. But yeah, it's pretty crazy how good of a deep sleep I get
after doing that right before bed. I'm going to have to try that. I do it always in the morning.
I start my day with it. That's how I start my day. I wonder, I might try that liquid. I'll think about it and see if I can figure that out to try and see and see what that does for my sleep because I've got an aura ring. So it tells me how I sleep. So it'll be so interesting to watch the statistics on my sleep, deep sleep, REM sleep, all of that kind of stuff to see if it changes it.
deep sleep, REM sleep, all of that kind of stuff to see if it changes it.
Right. Right. I, I definitely,
I definitely have a smile on my face when I'm going to sleep after that,
because it feels so good to be in the bed.
To me, that's very similar to like when I take, you know,
when you change the sheets and it's a fresh, fresh set of sheets.
And then you, you have to like,
you take a shower right before you go to bed
and it's just it's just like one of the best feelings in the world
yeah dude that is nice you know it's uh it's it's kind of crazy i don't recommend anybody to do it there are some people that do do it and swear by it um like who's that surfer that one surfer guy he's like
trying to live forever i forgot his fucking name he's insane but uh dude i partly because of him
i tried it out one day and i dude i burned like 600 calories at the gym just by getting in a cold
shower like ice cold shower for three minutes and then hop in the sauna at 190 for 15 and then back in
a cold shower and back in the sauna and end on a cold shower. Like, and it was, it was very intense.
I don't recommend anybody doing that, but, um, because you can, if you don't know your body,
like you can go into like a, some sort a shock i suppose um but uh i didn't
have any problems doing it but it was fucking wild every time i got out of the cold shower and i went
to the sauna the sauna felt so fucking good it was so amazing i could have stayed in there for 30
fucking minutes i mean it took like 10 minutes just for my body to warm back up and then i'd
hop back in i'd be all hot and go right into the shower again. And I'm like looking forward to it.
And then the cold water feels like.
Dude, I'm just, I'm so visual.
I'm just imagining you going one.
And then you're like, oh my God, I'm so fucking cold.
And then you go into the heat and you're like, oh yeah.
Just like back and forth.
Yeah.
It's funny when you do that too.
You go in the sauna and you're just dripping wet from water and everybody comes in there and they think you're sweating. It's like, nah, bro, when my heart rate increases, I go into a panic state
and it's ridiculous. And I know it's ridiculous, but I have such a hard time with it. And since
that's happened, I just don't do anything, which has resulted in really poor health for me, you
know? But the fact that you guys are talking about this,
I try to end my shower with cold, but I have to say when I have that, you know, where you're,
you know, that kind of, I can't do it because I immediately think I'm somewhere else and I think
something else is happening and it's just fucked. So I don't know how people do it for their mental
health, but I know that that's, it's not something I need to, it's something I, I feel like that's a journey I would really like to explore is being uncomfortable.
Yeah.
I mean, you totally should, you know, just baby steps, you know?
Yeah.
I will tell you that loss of breath that you have from that cold, like the first time I did a cold plunge, it sounded like I was out back giving birth. I was just like, like literally, and like my dogs
were freaking out. They thought something was wrong with me. They kept licking my face while
I was in there. It was distracting me. I was like, get away. Just leave me alone.
Daddy's fine. Leave me alone. But like, it's, it's funny because like after the maybe third or fourth time i did it i stopped
i was able to get out of that hyperventilating faster i didn't i i never got to the point where
i just was chill the whole time i always started off like hyperventilating a little bit but like
i don't know what happened one time i was out there i might have said this before i had the
thought in my head i was like you know what this't that bad. When the people got in the water from the Titanic,
they could not get out. Like I can get out. Like, so it's not that big of a deal. Like I'll just
got to calm my mind, focus on my breath. You know, that's the hardest thing is when your body just
naturally just takes control of your breath. Like you need to like grab that wheel, you know what I mean?
And start to steer it again.
And it can be hard.
It can feel like you have to breathe fast and you're fighting that urge.
But like, and it's really uncomfortable, but it gets easier as you do it.
Even if you can, you know, calm yourself down enough for 10 seconds, you know, that's progress.
Yeah, no, for sure. I can imagine that.
I have read too that some people start getting into it by putting their hands in ice cold water.
Like they just take a bucket and fill it with ice cold water and put their hands in it for a few
minutes. And apparently you can get some of the effects from it just by doing your hands.
Interesting. See, I could do that. And it would be something more controlled. You know what I mean?
Because I could easily just remove instead of, I just have this like visual, right? Like I'm in
the shower. I have this cold water going. I'm trying to get the fuck out. I'm floundering like
a fish. I can't get out fast enough, like just this whole thing. So,
but I have seen something, this guy actually said that if you have arthritis or anything going on
in your hands, if you can hold your hands in ice water for three to five minutes, it helps
tremendously with the inflammation. So I think that would be good for me. That would be,
that's a good challenge, Jed. That's a baby step.
And when you're in the shower and you, you know,
got the warm water cranking, you know, like maybe right when you get in,
don't make it like hot,
make it like room temperature and then just slowly turn it down to cold.
Like every couple of days, let your body adjust. You know what I mean?
Yeah. I take, I think it's actually interesting i don't
know if you guys have found this but um i think um oh my gosh what's that word i think women
actually take hotter showers than men papa says i do anyway every every woman that i've ever like
you know yo do you hear him not sure like you know like but they all take like insanely hot showers i'm like how the hell can you even like you'll like
burn when you're in there right this dude's talking about all the women that he has shared a shower with. Wow.
Every shower Papa Bear takes is hot.
It's a hot one.
That's right.
Papa's in.
It's nice and hot.
Brunchka Brunko.
The fuck, bro.
Okay.
So anyways.
So yeah.
So you say that women definitely take hotter showers.
I've heard him say this before.
Just not like that.
Is it?
Okay.
Interesting. Yeah. I don't know what that is. I just. I have to have say this before. Just not like that. Is it? Okay. Interesting.
Yeah.
I don't know what that is.
I just, I have to have a very hot, like, and I'm extreme with everything though.
Like when I eat, I have to have it very hot. Like it can just come out of the oven and it might be okay temperature wise for me, but I need it hotter.
And my cold has to be ice cold.
Like my mom, dude.
Yeah.
If it's not fresh from the fucking volcano, like it's too warm.
Like I swear,
there's been so many times I sit down and eat
and she's like,
it might be a little,
it might be a little cold by now.
You might need to reheat it.
And she's picking her plate up
and going in the fucking to use the microwave.
And I'm,
my plate is steaming.
I'm like,
yeah,
that's me, dude dude i don't know
why oh my god babe i just need to interject here that your cat has had such a traumatic day
and the amount of screaming and crying he's doing walking around this house
because you're outside i just want you to know that. Yeah. No, I got that during memer space when I was like, like, I kept hearing this, like thuds at the door.
Well, no, he's scratching at the door and then he's walking around crying.
Yes.
I've already tried to console them.
He has no interest in that.
Poor cat today.
We're cat today.
He was doing so well at first too.
He was doing so well at first too.
And then, then the, I don't know what it was, but the vet, like just, he, he turned on him and he turned into the devil.
Enough to the point.
They're like, okay, if you're going to bring him back again, here's some gabapentin.
You need to knock his ass out before you bring him in here ever again.
And this is Papa's baby, by by the way so therefore it is his
problem child i told you i told you babe when i saw how you were with goose i was like nope you're
the kind of parent that your child does no wrong and that's papa that's papa bear little shit your
cat is a little shit he was doing good and like he's like okay he's giving me some mixed signals here
he seems to be liking the pets but then at the
same time looks like
he might want to like you know
he's not too sure about this
and then he's going
that's my life
then he was basically listening to his heart underneath
you know in his lung
underneath
and that was the beginning of him going
oh fuck no he was like um yeah and then he's like i don't know if we want to try and uh
do the the the vaccines and the and the the nail trim today he i think he might have run out of his minutes is what they said.
You know, like where he had the tolerant behavior and then he's just like, oh, fuck down.
Well, it's kind of like you with your talking, right?
Yeah, that's true.
You said that you meet your quota.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Goose has met his quota for the day, but I know you're enjoying it outside, but you might take a break and come and see him. Cause I, I mean, I'm not joking, babe. He's like in full duress. Maybe you need
to get like a, um, I told you to get one of those carriers for the baby and then you can put them
on your chest and then you can sit outside and just hold them tight. There we go. Like when
this little swaddler things. Yes. Yes. Yep.
I bet he'd love it.
He'd probably go right to sleep.
Probably would.
I thought you were going to say a harness.
Cause you've told me to get in a harness and just.
I do.
I think harness.
Dude.
When you guys, we lived in our old neighborhood.
This lady used to walk her cat on a harness and I thought what in the white lady shit is happening.
lady used to walk her cat on a harness. And I thought, what in the white lady shit is happening?
I've never in my life seen anybody walk their fucking cat. And now I'm two years later, I'm
like, Papa, we really need to get goose a harness. See, that's what happens. Every time when I was
younger, I talked shit about this girl. I was in a, we were in music class and she, I was young. I was in elementary school and she got a bloody nose.
And I was like, oh my God, I've never had a bloody nose before.
That's disgusting.
Why can't you make it stop?
Like I was so rude.
And you guys, I kid you, not even 20 minutes later, I got a bloody nose.
Telling you, that's how fucking I am.
Have you guys ever had something like that?
Like an instant karmic thing that's happened to you?
Like anything you can think of?
Not to me like that, but that does remind me of when I was in second grade,
the teacher was talking about ticks and how when they latch onto you they suck your blood and their
bodies get big and all of a sudden one of the kids in the classroom's like i think i have one of those
on my head and he like does something's head the teacher goes over there and pulls a fat tick off
of his head just like what in the world what are in the world? You've been holding on to that thing?
What's going on?
That's what it makes me think of.
Oh my God.
Now he has like, what is that?
Lyme disease?
That shit's scary, dude.
Uh-uh.
Where you can't eat red meat anymore?
Is that what it is?
I don't know what it is.
It's like, what is it, Dad?
It's a joint thing.
It makes you feel like tired a lot and achy joints and shit like that pretty much for the rest of your life.
It's no joke.
Blind disease, especially for people who live in New Jersey and stuff like that, it's a type of, I think it's a bacteria that the tick is carrying and it becomes blood-borne.
They can treat it, for sure sure early if they catch it.
But if they don't catch it, you get what's called long-term Lyme disease.
And it can affect almost all of your different organs of your body.
And if you're a woman, you can transmit it in intra-utero to your offspring.
I had a girlfriend who suffered a long, long time with it. Her kids
got it. They think they get it as infants from her. She had to do years' worth of super intensive
kind of off-the-book therapy, antibiotics. I just made her sicker than a dog,
but she finally got, she finally got cured, but it's, it's, it's scary. It's don't take those
ticks, you know, for granted. If you guys go outside, check yourself, check your, check your
people. Never get rid of the tick. Put it in a bag and you can get it tested.
So one thing about Lyme's disease that I, cause I, I swore I had it, but, um, I also,
uh, used Accutane when I was in high school, which has been, uh, now it's been, you know,
connected to joint issues when you get older.
Um, so I have like some joint issues, but anyway, I thought I had
Lyme disease and I got tested two times for it and both times it was negative. But then I start
reading online that like a lot of the times it can be really hard to find through your standard
type of testing and they get a lot of false negatives. So yeah, it's, it, it does kind of, it does suck. I don't think I have it
at this point, but it's, I could not imagine that like, fuck that. And I think liquid mentioned the
meat one that's a alpha gal syndrome. That is something you can get from ticks as well. It
could be a, an allergy also that you develop, but it just makes you unable to eat red meat.
an allergy also that you develop, but, uh, it just makes you unable to eat red meat.
Yeah. It sucks. The lone star tick, I think is what they're called. And, um, yeah, a friend of
mine actually had that happen. Then it's, it's red meat. I believe that, um, the, it does something,
the, the, the bite whenever the, the tick like cause the bite or whatever they it uh it causes your body
to be unable to break down the enzymes or something in red meat and thus like giving you
an allergic reaction to it and yeah that would be sad i mean and of course liquid's probably like
no you can it's okay you don't you don like, no, you can, it's okay.
You don't need red meat.
You can survive.
Liquid survives every day.
But so, like, no, like the Lone Star tick.
So this is the reason, you know, that thing that went up about moving to Texas.
So these ticks are in Texas.
Forget that tick, man.
Oh, hell no.
I don't know.
That's not a deer tick, is it?
No, deer tick is everywhere, but I would guess the Lone Star State is Texas, right?
And Lone Star Tick, but maybe it lives elsewhere, but heck, you don't know.
T-Wop, this is an announcement.
If there are Lone Star Ticks in Texas where you want me to go, it is not happening. There are a fuck ton of deer ticks out here in PA and in Maryland and in
Virginia, like fuck tons of them. One time my wife left her phone on top of the car. We were like
just in a hurry getting groceries out. I mean, like it could have happened to anybody.
And then we hopped back in the car and we were like, let's run down to the store real quick.
We run out of the store not realizing the phone was still on the roof. And we took a turn,
the phone flew off and went into some bushes off the side of the road. And then we came back home
and like, we didn't even know it flew off the car or anything. Come back home, can't find the phone,
do the where's my phone thing, find it on the app on
the side of the road. And we're like, what the fuck? And then we realized what happened.
We go down to find it. I pull off on the side of the road and my wife like goes, goes for it,
like in the bushes a little bit. She finds it. It's got like a trademark on it and everything.
It's all fucked up. And yeah, dude, she got in the car and she had like a dozen ticks crawling all over her.
Instant, instant freak out.
I don't blame her.
And she got out of the car real slow.
And I was like, just chill, just chill.
I got you.
I started flicking them all off of her as many as I could.
I mean, it was literally like over a dozen ticks.
And she wasn't even in the bushes for like but five fucking fucking seconds. Like it was, it was just one of them,
like reach in, you could see the phone before the bushes,
you know what I mean? You just reach in and grab it.
The next thing you know, she's covered in ticks.
That's crazy. Yeah, no thanks. I don't think, I mean,
I know we have ticks here in Washington,
but I don't think there is prevalent do you know anybody fuck that
yeah papa said that what babe i don't think there are too many here um and not that i've seen at least
he used to get them off of the greyhounds. Papa loves greyhounds.
That's a fact you probably don't know about him.
Papa loves greyhounds.
It's his favorite, most favorite dog.
So he used to be in some, like, organization for greyhounds, right,
where you guys would rescue him?
Yep.
So we would, it was a greyhound adoption group,
it was a greyhound adoption group
we'd get them from Oklahoma
because that's where a lot of the
kennels are from
of course Oklahoma has a ton
of ticks so when they'd come
in state
come off the truck
the first thing we always had to do
was go through
them and take off all these ticks.
It was really
bad.
Greyhounds, they're awesome dogs.
Love them.
They're like
dogs for cat people.
I just want a mini squirrely one or something, but it's okay.
You can't have a Greyhound right now.
You have to just keep Goose.
Goose is not a fan of anything besides himself.
And that's okay.
Mimer, do you have any pets?
I've never asked you.
I don't have any pets No no
My mom has a dog
And my sister's got dogs
But I just don't have time
I'm allergic to cats
And I just don't have time for a dog
It wouldn't be fair
But you get to see your mom's dog everyday
Oh yeah
I'm not overly fussy with
dogs I'll fuss them a little bit
but I'm like eh it's a dog
that makes sense
that makes sense
I love my sister's dog
that was probably
the only dog I'd like to take her
what is the kind of dog she has
it's a Eurasia
I don't know what the hell that is What is the kind of dog she has? It's Eurasia.
I don't know what the hell that is.
It's a recent pedigree breed, but they're very soft, fluffy, cute.
And they've got great temperaments because they all literally just work to be dogs.
How do I even spell that, dude?
Say the name one more time.
Eurasia.
So it's E... Let me check. I know it begins with the e e-u-r uh e-u-r-a-s-i-e-r okay okay oh interesting
I've never even heard of this dog before
i've never even heard of this dog before
Is it big?
It kind of looks like a chow
Yeah, they're big dogs
You know, probably
A little bit bigger
And it's nice
Yeah, yeah, really nice
Really good temperament
If they don't like you
Usually they'll just turn their back on you
Oh, so not aggressive Which is funny If they don't like you Usually they'll just turn their back on you
Oh so not aggressive
Which is funny
No no not aggressive at all
Our honey guy
Bob's the honey man
Or whatever
He actually has a dog that sits out there with him
Like all day long
And it's a German Shepherd
And he's really pretty but i definitely would
not want to piss him off and our neighbors across the street have a shepherd too
so i think they're just very like territorial yeah yeah for sure that's why the police use them
yeah that's true yeah that is true i know it made me sad i I was telling Papa yesterday, one of our local law enforcement dogs actually had an overdose of fentanyl.
It was doing a search in the jail.
They were able to revive it, but I'm like, gosh, it makes me so mad.
It makes me sad that they put dogs to do that.
I mean, I get it, but I don't.
I'm like, I like animals more than
people sometimes. Well, most times. So I absolutely love the fact that, uh, canine units are called
officers. I know. Right. And you can get in big trouble too. Jed, if you hurt one of them, like
that's actual, that's an officer. Yes. A hundred percent.
A hundred percent. I I've had this little thing I like to do on YouTube whenever I don't have
anything to watch and I'll watch like really intense police chase videos and shit. And
sometimes I'll scroll upon a canine like collage or whatever, dude. They're so fucking awesome.
Those dogs are so well-trained and oh my God, you see them jump into a fucking car with some guy that won't get out.
Dude, it's like, yeah, he's getting the fuck out after that guy gets in there.
I don't know many people that would not shy away from one of those motherfuckers coming at you.
I mean, if I was in that situation and they tell you like, hey, we're going to send the dogs.
We're going to send the dog if you don't get out.
I'm getting out. I don't want no fucking dog attacking, hey, we're going to send the dogs. We're going to send a dog if you don't get out. Like, I'm getting out.
I don't want no fucking dog attacking me.
Because what are you going to do?
I mean, because at that point, it's literally like having an officer on you.
Are you going to fight back and try to kill the officer?
You know what I mean?
Like, no.
Unless you're really that fucked up.
Right.
I know.
I would not want to be chewed up by a dog either. I absolutely would not want to be chewed up by a dog either i absolutely would not want to be
chewed up by a dog i think it's so excited too i love it when they get them back in their unit
in their cars and they have like a little tennis ball and be like good boy you know i know right
like they go from like badass to little sweet puppy and i think it's really cool too that a
lot of the officers actually take their dogs home with them because it's like their animal. Yeah. But I can only imagine how heartbreaking that is just,
I don't know. I just have such mixed feelings about it, but dogs do like to work.
Yes, they do. But like, and look at the positive side of it all it's the most adorable thing when they
graduate or they retire a dog like no I like cry when I watch those graduations
it's like so amazing they did their duty and now you can go be a normal dog at home
go eat some steak boy you did your work I. I love that so much. The best guard dog at home.
Yes.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I mean, and there's a lot of people who actually will adopt, like, retired police dogs.
I think that would be amazing.
See?
I just need a gun and a retired police dog, babe.
Can you make that happen?
Um, maybe.
He's so reluctant.'ll work on it we'll work on it did you come inside because i don't hear your cat screaming yes you he's like purring insanely
on my on my lap here. Yep.
That's what happens.
It was getting a little chilly out there, too.
Oh, you guys.
The flowers are so pretty.
And it's like you go out there and you just smell like a breeze of flowers.
Ugh.
It's just like...
It's nature's perfume.
It's beautiful.
I love it.
I love it. Jed, what'd you make for dinner? Oh,
it's already past your dinner time, bro. I ate a steak for like lunch slash dinner,
maybe like five hours ago, but that thing was banging. I'm trying to, I had a hard boiled egg as well. I had a hard boiled, like a whole bunch of eggs. Oh, that sounds good.
I love hard boiled eggs.
Yeah.
A little spicy brown mustard on there.
I've never tried that.
interesting.
Interesting.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've never tried that dollop on top,
you know?
Right.
Right.
That's awesome.
My newest thing that I will try or that I like is Cholula.
And it took me a while to get into these spicy things.
And then, and that's me as that's a lot of spice.
And then what is the other thing I like?
Sriracha mayo.
Oh, yeah.
That should sound good.
Yeah, it goes really good with like seafood.
I don't know.
I love poke bowls. Have you ever had that before, Jed? Oh, with, like, seafood. I don't know. I love poke bowls.
Have you ever had that before, Jed?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, dear.
They're delicious.
They are.
It's like Chipotle and sushi had a baby.
See, baby, he used your term.
I know.
He's so excited that you just said that.
What does he say that?
He says it all the time.
The way that I always describe a fusion of two things,
it's like if X and Y had a baby.
And every single time he's like, well, let me describe it.
I'm like, oh, fuck, somebody's having a baby.
Something's having a baby.
It's funny because I used to ask him,
are you trying to send me some subliminal messaging? Why are you saying everything's having a baby it's funny because I used to ask him like are you trying to send me some like subliminal messaging like why are you saying
everything's having a baby so yeah it's kind of funny isn't it great though when
it like is spot-on when you say it you're like holy shit it is 100% those
are the parents yeah and um but no
pokeballs are so good
I actually was thinking about that for
food
no you weren't
it trips me out
do you ever do this with your wife or anybody that you guys are close to
it's like you think something
and then the person says it a little while later
is that just a normal thing
people just get in sync
I think it's just wavelengths brave waves person says it a little while later. Is that just a normal thing? People just get in sync?
I think it's just wavelengths, brave waves lining up, you know?
Interesting.
I think that's what it is. Like, you'd be thinking about somebody and then they call you.
All the time. Yes.
universe's way of being like hey hey hey hey don't forget about this this guy's about the call
It's like the universe's way of being like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't forget about this. This guy's about to call.
yeah it's true and i know this is kind of a little bit separate but like um women who often
are around each other a lot they will sync up their cycles um and that's why
fuck out isn't that a trip and that's why oftentimes people will be like how did those
sisters get pregnant at the same time? How did the friends get?
Well, that's why.
Because our bodies naturally sync up with one another.
And it's such a trip.
But I guess why can't the same be with the mind?
Yeah, it totally could.
Has anybody watched that Yellow Jackets?
That show Yellow Jackets? that show Yellow Jackets?
What is that?
Okay.
Well, it lost me at season three.
It lost me.
And season two was rough.
But season one had me, after the second episode, it was pretty good.
It's basically about a bunch of girls who were on a soccer team.
And it takes present tense, and then it takes the past tense also.
So you're going back and forth between them as adults and them as children.
And they get into a plane crash on the way to some world championship and they land.
They end up in some woods and they can't get out and they end up living there for like a year and a half or something.
But it was like all the all these it was a female soccer team.
So it was all these young girls. And then the coach was a guy and there was like two the uh two other guys there i guess they were just like part of like jockeys or
something like that and uh they ended up like it was probably like i don't know 12 of them 12 girls
or whatever they all ended up like um taking mushrooms and then they started fucking their
they started sinking their their cycles and every time they
would sink their cycles and take mushrooms and stuff like that they would like start these weird
fucking rituals and shit and then they started like some presence some demonic presence in the
woods like attach themselves to them or something like that but it was just crazy because they they
had that happen in the show where all their cycles eventually lined up.
And whenever they did, the craziest shit happened.
But they were also demonically possessed and taking mushrooms.
But all the guys were running away.
They were scared shitless.
It was actually pretty funny.
Just imagine being...
Yeah, no, I can't.
Hey, guys. Hey, I can't. Hey guys.
Hey five, how's it going?
Dude, I'm listening and I'm so excited right now about this topic.
I'm cheesing really hard because of like the mind frequency stuff.
Okay.
And that stuff, everything you guys are saying about that 100%,
especially the psilocybin and ingesting that
it's the network it's the mycelium network and then when we when our body takes that
it's easier to live in like the ethereal and the spirit and it's easier to uh to detect like softer physical dense uh realities so yeah and the um the brainstorm the
cumulative the cumulative yeah of of everyone's thought and sometimes there's a brainstorm in
front of everybody and it's just first come first serve and some people like hey i was thinking
about that but that's just really cool. And I love tripping on it.
Hell yeah, dude. That's what's up. Like, you know, I don't know if anybody's heard this before.
It has to do with what five was talking about, like with just like brain leaves and stuff like,
you know, like you look like an ant colony, you know, all those ants are connected. They move as one. You look at a flock of birds of birds flying you see them they all move in the same direction at the same time you know what i mean like there's no hesitation
you know and uh they're all connected you know they're individuals but they're all one yeah and
uh it's kind of interesting because there were some there's been a lot of like global testing
on its own uh consciousness like populated areas. And they've actually found,
they've put random number generators like all across the world. There's these, they're everywhere.
And they can actually link patterns to the numbers that the random number generator generates
and events that happen in certain areas near that random number generator. Like, like when
9-11 happened, there was there was a pattern that was being recognized off the off of a few
random number generators around the East Coast and like parts of Canada and stuff like that.
And even into the West Coast and all that too, because it was a, you know, a country type thing
that happened. I mean, like wars and all that, like Iraq and, you know, Somalia and all this kind of crazy shit,
you know, even around COVID, they were finding these patterns, you know, it's really interesting.
It's almost like, you know, we're not completely in tune with it. You know, some people may be a
little bit more aware maybe of it, but we're all collectively at the same time
affecting some sort of network some sort of of behind the scenes you know thing you know that
we're all connected to and it's just really interesting to see that because it's like
proof that it exists yeah jen jen and just like oh mama bear, when I first entered this space, she recommended I take off my shoes and ground myself.
So doing that frequently, not infrequently, frequently, often, all the time, it gets us grounded and plugged into that 100 and then we get to just listen to the lawnmower
listen to the people drive by and listen you know get into a meditative state then your consciousness
who you are your awareness observes all these natural things of what we are and it's really cool
and really connected yeah that makes me think about like I was listening to, I think, I don't know, some some really cool people.
I think Rick Starr was in there and they're talking to this AI.
And that's really cool.
I'm just drifting towards that AI topic of consciousness.
And I had a conversation and the AI said,
it's just like silicone.
And I said, well, I'm just minerals too.
And they're like, oh, okay.
And that went really, really cool.
Jed, are you,
were you referring to the global Consciousness Project at Princeton University?
Maybe that's what it was.
You know who Greg Brayden is, right?
No, I don't.
Oh my God, dude.
You need to check out Greg Brayden.
Go to YouTube, look him up.
He talks about this kind of stuff.
He also talks about the magnetic fields of Earth, the, the kind of shift that it's certainly, uh, that it's kind of going through
right now, the inner core, he goes into a whole wide, um, spectrum of information and ties it
together in this awesome way. But he is, um, on the board at Princeton university for the global
consciousness project where they can literally, just like you were saying, that input from events that take place around the world and it appears
in their digital info. And then also it makes me think of there was a study done where they
basically had it, like you were saying, a random number generator and it could only go one or two.
generator and it could only go one or two. And obviously, typically it was about a 50-50 shot
which would ever come up. And then they would have people in the study think of only one of
those numbers. And if they were thinking of two, then the random number generator would start
landing on two more than it would land on one or vice versa. It's just crazy to think that our conscious intention literally can affect
digital information like that.
Yeah, dude, that's wild.
You know, you said is Greg Brayden?
Yes, Greg Brayden.
Okay, I'm subscribing to his page.
I'm going to watch that shit later.
Dude, he's the man.
He's awesome.
Thank you for that.
That intrigues me.
It gives me something interesting to watch tonight.
Dude, you know, there's this whole thing.
It's actually kind of funny just saying it straight out because everybody's like,
well, of course they're seeing the fucking Matrix.
They're on LSD.
But there's this whole thing that popped up of people
taking lsd and looking at a laser that's pointing at a wall they're not looking into the laser
they're looking at the at the beam of the laser and they can actually apparently multiple people
have done this and it's re uh repeatable they can actually see lines of code. Wait, wait, wait.
Yes.
It's not LSD.
It's DMT.
Oh, it's DMT.
Yes.
Yes. And they're looking at, they're looking at the laser, the refracted laser on the wall
at an angle.
And yes, I actually am ordering that laser within the next week because I just got my
hands on a bunch of DMT and I will be doing this myself.
Dude, you got to let us know what you see, man, for real.
I absolutely will.
Bro, I'm going to...
Oh, dude, Liquid has stories, Jed.
Oh, dude, it's wild too, Liquid,
because they were saying that if you move the laser,
the code appears to be static.
So it's not like it's moving with it.
It's like it's a blanket of code and the laser is just showing you it as it's passing over.
Right, like it's like there's a window on the wall
and if you kind of get down below the window and look up,
you can see code up inside the wall
where the laser isn't even touching.
And then if you go and you look down,
you can see laser down or code in down in the wall yeah it's it's nuts it really makes me wonder
like that really does because like i don't know man what they like i i don't i'm not necessarily
a believer of simulation theory but like i i you know i don't know where to draw a line with it to be honest
with you but at the same time it's like it wouldn't it wouldn't shock me like to figure
that like to find out that was actually like what was happening like we were just all you know in
some sort of an existence that's been created i mean that's kind of religion in a way you know
we're all you know created and we're in existence. And then there's a place where we go after we're
done here, you know what I mean? Like, or whatever your belief is, it's like, it's kind of interesting,
makes you wonder, especially all the crazy shit that has happened, you know, in the world. But
it's like, I don't know. That's just wild.
Did you, did you ever listen to the dude who found this code in the laser?
I watched some of the podcast. It was on podcast. It was just like a 10 minute long video or something I watched a while ago, but then I saw another guy doing it and I don't remember who it
was exactly. I didn't, uh, spend a lot of time on it, but, uh, I don't know who it was exactly. I didn't spend a lot of time on it, but I don't know.
Part of my brain was like, yeah, they're tripping balls. I'd probably see code too,
but I don't know. Because they had people do it that didn't know anything about it,
and they described the same thing right the guy the guy who
um came across this he his i think he's done over a thousand people and a number of them
he tells them that he's going they're going to see stuff that that's not actually there
just to see you know he's playing the the the study role and he doesn't tell them that they're
going to see symbols or anything he tells them they're gonna see like a little elephants or something like that and then they
end up seeing the code even though they didn't know that that's what they were going to see
um they were expecting to see something different he also he also brings in this like crazy um
correlation with there was this so there was this dude that apparently worked in um in the government
for some secret projects that dealt with ufos and he he came out with all of this information about
these symbols that were written on the ufos and he claimed that if you put the symbols in a certain mapping, and you put that mapping of symbols onto an object, that object would basically know what the symbols mean, whatever that information is, and it would be integrated into the object itself. And he was saying that the, the, the foundation of reality
automatically understands this code on a deeper level. So if you apply this code to things,
reality will automatically associate the information of that code to the object.
And this guy who found the code in the, in the laser wonders if this is the code,
because it's in reality that if you knew the understanding to, you could apply to real world objects and change the nature of things with the code.
If that makes any sense at all.
could have you could get the code from like an orange or something theoretically and then like
apply it to an apple and the apple would taste like an orange or it would physically change in
front of your eyes into an orange i don't i don't know about that but he i think maybe who knows i
mean i i have no idea but he made the example like, if you knew the coding to allow something to be weightless and then you put that coding onto an object, it would then become weightless, you know?
So who knows?
Who fucking knows?
But it's incredible.
And that's why when I learned about this, because I learned about this a couple months ago and I was like, I need this in my life.
I need to see this.
I need to dive deeper into this fabric of reality
situation. And so I finally got my hands on some VT and I'll be ordering the laser from,
from the actual guy, um, in the next week or so. Hell yeah, dude. That's cool. That's really,
uh, it's trippy and I don't know, stuff like that, that really takes a special person.
I don't know. I'm a little nervous to do anything super intense like that again.
Good experiences.
You have smoked DMT before?
No, not quite that. I'm too nervous too because of the acid trips that I've experienced,
which were, the first one was great. It was amazing, like changed my whole view on everything,
but it was also extremely brutal and bloody. And like, I don't know how else to explain it.
Like it was so scary, but it was so rewarding, But like, it makes me not want to do it again.
Like, and I kind of like a, maybe a time in my life, I'll be ready to do it again.
You know, kind of thing.
But the second time I had done it, I just did it for funsies and it didn't do anything.
It was just so dull of an experience.
Like I couldn't even really say I gained or went through anything with it. And I kind of felt like it was just because I was doing it for fun. I, whereas the
first time I did it, I did it for like, you know, enlightenment, you know, and I went into it with
that mindset. Um, but yeah, I mean, I've had fed mushrooms before. And the first time I ate like a
whole batch, it was like, I mean, it was an eighth and it was the worst
experience I ever fucking had. Like I would never want to do that again, but micro is different.
That's been awesome. Um, that has been amazing, but yeah, I don't know. It just, that stuff just
makes me a little nervous just because I don't know if I trust my consciousness fully, um, which
I don't know if that's a common thing people deal with or not, but that's kind of where I'm at.
Yeah, I mean, that's fair. I think that's that's completely fair.
And also, you know, the conscious shift that happens internally when you take psychedelics can be jarring or very strange.
And a lot of, you know, most people aren't prepared for that.
I mean, even with even with the DMT, the first time I did it was 10 years ago. And then finally I just did it again
recently. And before I did it, I had to psych myself into it. Like, because I'm like, okay,
like this is about to be, this is about to be ridiculous. And I know it is. And I had to like
work myself mentally into doing it because there was a little bit of a nervous, slight anxious, you know, feeling prior to it.
And then I did it.
And afterwards, I was just like, holy shit, that was fucking ridiculous.
But then I went to go do it again the next week.
And still, I had to like work my way into it.
Even though I know what's going to happen and I know what's coming, it's still that conscious shift that happens is so alien.
That is the definition of alien for me when that conscious shift happens.
So, I mean, I get it.
Yeah, it's not necessarily for everybody.
And, you know, it can definitely...
Also, your environment makes a massive difference to, you know, if you're going into doing something like psychedelics, you need to you need to be prepared.
You need to be planned. You need to be in a good environment, good energy.
If there's people around you, good people, you know, and and have an intention going into it.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
You know, there was one time a buddy of mine was leaving for Florida. He was moving and we had like one little tab and we, it was four of us and we
cut it into fours, which we didn't really think it would do much. But all four of us, we didn't
get like crazy, but dude, we had the best time. We were watching some wildlife show on TV and shit.
We went outside.
It was fucking amazing.
It really was.
But I didn't lose my mind like I did the first time.
I had total identity loss.
I didn't know where I was, who I was, why I was.
So is that what freaked you out because you had an ego death?
Well, that's what freaked me out the first time.
But luckily, I was with somebody who was experienced and caught it.
He could see it happening because my words started not to make sense.
And he put a movie on.
We watched Coraline.
And he was like, you just need something for your brain to attach one to and you'd be fine.
And we watched Coraline, which if you've ever seen that,
it's a starts off as a very bright kind of movie. And then it goes real dark and then it comes back and it's light and then it's dark and then it's light. And then at the end, it's like, everything's
joyous and happy and grateful. And that was like my battle. Every time she went over to the dark
side, I had this like insane inner battle going on, like between like good and evil. Like,
I don't know how to explain it, but every time I came back, I felt like I had won and I became a
better person. And, uh, every time, and every time I knew she was about to go back in, I would get
scared. And then like the second time she went in, I was like, I got this, I got this, like,
whatever's going to show up, I'm going to handle it. And I did, but it was still fucking scary. But, uh, and that, I mean, so I didn't have a bad experience.
It was just really intense. I don't know that I need that right now in my life. But, uh, when I
did the mushrooms, it was different. I, I was drinking water constantly and I actually swelled
And I actually swelled up. I kept wanting to drink water. I drank so much water. I couldn't
up. I kept wanting to drink water. I drank so much water. I couldn't even make a fist.
even make a fist. My hands were swollen and shit. And I just laid on the couch miserable. And I was
moving my hands, my feet back and forth. Like my wife was in it with me and she was having a blast,
but she was like trying to help me and stuff. But I couldn't even look at her like, because I felt
like I didn't deserve to, like, she was like this, this angelic presence
next to me. And I didn't have the right to even observe her. And, uh, I felt like I was paying,
the pain I was feeling, I felt like I was paying for sins of a past life. And I don't know if
that's really what it was, or if it was just, I was so focused on my stomach being upset because
you literally are, you know, have
fungus in you, you know? I think that might've been, you know, I got so attached to the upset
stomach that it kind of turned into those feelings. But yeah, I was so glad when that was over, dude.
I was like, never again. That's, that's interesting, man. Yeah. That's one thing that I tell people too, if they're going to do it. I typically have a list of things or activities pre-made to where when you go into an ego death and you can't attach mentally onto any kind of thought, you're like, I don't even know what to do with myself right now.
I just think the list, go to the list. And then I go to the list and I pick one of the things and then I continue my journey in that direction.
I go to the list and I pick one of the things and then I continue my journey in that direction.
Yeah, that's a good tool to have.
That's for sure.
I don't mean to hog up the stage.
I know Rick's got his hand up over there.
Oh my God.
Yeah, I just wanted to say, guys, I have actually done DMT and like every psychedelic almost and yeah dmt is definitely one of the
the most um enlightening ones i think that that one i would compare to like bungee jumping like
like psychedelic bungee jumping because it literally is 15 minutes of insanity and to like come back or maybe clarity which whichever way you want to
look at it only to come back into like the real world like 15 minutes later is insane like you
can't think of many experiences um that you could have that uh, that are kind of like that. That's only last 15 minutes.
I mean, if you take acid or mushrooms or any of those other things, it can last hours and hours,
whereas DMT is usually around 15 minutes. And, um, yeah, it is, I would say the way that I like
to describe it to people that have never had it is for me it's like a gps for my soul and
obviously every single person can take it differently um but it's a gps for my soul
in the sense that after i take um after i took dmt uh you know i've only ever done it uh one no twice uh back in 2015 and then like two years
later in 2017 but the second time wasn't i didn't take like that much at all i only took a very small
amount but the first time i took enough um but it was just so spiritually spiritually enlightening
that even afterwards food tasted different colors look different um
the the just every everything felt very different it almost felt like a new birth and
that's because dmt dmt dimethyltryptamine is released in your body um when you're born and
when you die and people believe that it happens when you're born so that
you can get depth perception and it's a lot of like stuff that obviously gives you uh like your
perception of the world um through that dimethyltryptamine that that you receive when when
you are baby and this isn't me talking this is science so you can look look this up we all have dimethyltryptamine
in our body right now sitting in our pineal gland and what happens is when you smoke you're not
actually ingesting dmt i think that that's like a misconception that that people have so you
you aren't ingesting um something that's going to make the DMT release in your body.
And of course, that comes from the eukonacea plant.
So you're using that in conjunction with the smoke,
but the effect that you have is the release of this chemical in your brain
called dimethyltryptamine.
And like I say, it lasts 15 minutes,
and afterwards you just feel like a new
person that to me is the closest thing that i can tell people to experience if they if they want to
believe or not that this world is all a simulation everything that we see around us could be
simulated and you realize that after dmt trip because you realize that there's
something else there's something more it isn't just this um for this reality that that exists
there is another reality beyond that and i don't know if you guys have heard elon musk talking about
um basically like simulation theory but if you if you ever hear like him speak about it he speaks
about like the evolution of technology and you can just look at it this way like the way that
he explains is actually is actually perfect if you go back to like the 80s and you can or 40
40 years ago anyway uh there was a game called pong which is just two rectangles and a dot and now at this
moment we have photorealistic 3d multiplayer games vr that that's all going on right now
so if tech keeps advancing eventually we're going to get to a stage where we're going to have
um games that are indistinguishable from reality um and that obviously that that just means so if this
is a a simulation that's good news for us because that means that we haven't destroyed ourselves
as as a society and then people would argue argue like why would why would we want to be um
in this in this simulation and by the way they asked uh they asked elon what are
the chances of this not being of this being a simulation and he said um it's basically one in
billions uh he said it's it's one in billions that that this it's a one in billion chance that this
that we live in right now is based reality um And the reason that that could be is obviously, you know,
the way that the world's evolving, lack of resources,
all of those type of things could force us into being in a simulation.
And then you would ask, well, why wouldn't we know that we're in a simulation?
Well, if you knew you were in a simulation,
that would cause so much distress and you wouldn't enjoy the simulation it wouldn't be like do you want to know that it's
a movie while you're watching a movie you don't want someone sitting next to you go hey hey hey
it's a movie it's a movie it's a movie while you're enjoying like an action piece of like a
fantasy movie you know so i think it's pretty much the same thing with life you wouldn't want to know that this is a simulation but we have more than enough evidence to know that well in my in my
in my mind anyway you know we've got deja vu we've got mand the mandela effect um just all these weird
coincidence that happen like you guys were saying like quantum entanglements and all of that type
of thing all of these things i think deja vu is one of the main ones it's almost like feels like a scene is loaded twice like the
same scene is loaded loading twice and that to me is a sign that we are in a simulation
there's a lot of things like even in dreams you know it a lot of the times it feels like you're rebooting and you get like these flashes.
And I think that DMT brings you out of that simulation for a while.
And then you come back into the simulation and you kind of appreciate the simulation again is the way that I would put it just to come full circle.
But sorry for talking such crazy talk.
It is 1.30 a.m. for me.
So I'm allowed to talk like this at this hour, by the way.
Heck, no, you're allowed to come talk about whatever.
That's what we do in here.
It's funny, too.
I was actually going to ask you guys.
I was talking about this a little bit the other day with, or Creep Crew was talking about this specifically.
And I had chimed in in the comments, but I think about all the people who have been
institutionalized over the years and are considered, whether it's like a multiple personality
disorder or schizophrenic, things like that. And I actually have a theory on that. I think that
oftentimes they are just able to see some things that we're not. I don't think it necessarily means that
they're batshit crazy. Do you know what I mean? And I think that it's really sad because when
these people are put into these places, instead of maybe like working, it always, I always just
think like, what if you were to give them some DMT? like what if they were able to express to you, like what it is
that they are experiencing, um, instead of just locking them up. And now they're stuck with those
thoughts until they're then drugged. And then that's completely taken away from them too.
So I don't know. I always, I always, well, on the healing side of, on the healing side of on the healing side of things it's interesting that dmt and not so much
dmt but dmt is used but ayahuasca in itself which is essentially a dmt but it's a different form of
dmt it comes from a plant from the amazon but basically people that go on these dmt trips
are addicts that have been addicts their entire lives that
have had mental problems that have had um all types of bad stuff happen to them and they go
into these ayahuasca trips or these dmt trips and they come out of it and could be a heroin addict
you know alcoholic and they come out of the ayahuasca trip and it's just gone. They are not an alcoholic anymore.
And this isn't me talking shit again.
Please, guys, do your research.
Go and research your stuff.
But it's insane that something like that,
if we took enough time to actually study it,
I think could save so many people's lives.
I know that in Oregon,
they're studying ketamine treatments and
mushrooms as well and that that's great like we need more of that because these plants and these
natural substances have been suppressed for a long time and you have to ask yourself like why is
dmt and and ayahuasca so illegal when it when it's like part of an ancient tradition and culture that's
been around way longer than any of the governments that are around today. You know, this is ancient
medicine. And we're denying it to the people because, I mean, why? What is the reason? Like,
no one's dying from ayahuasca. No one's dying from DMT.
So what is the reason that they've made this so illegal to the point that it's like, it's worse than anything else?
You have to ask yourself that question.
It's because it awakens you.
It opens your mind.
Like after you take this shit, you question everything and they don't want you questioning everything.
Like, after you take this shit, you question everything.
And they don't want you questioning everything.
The minute you start questioning everything, all of the stage and everything that they've set up starts crumbling down.
Yeah, that control is no longer there.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
It's done.
A hundred percent.
That's why like the hippie movement, you know, in the 60s, that's why they shut that shit down.
Because people were becoming too enlightened.
They were taking LSD and they were going to stop the wall,
you know,
and that,
that was not good for the government.
So they shut all that shit down and they never brought it back because they
don't want people to be enlightened.
Right.
They made Charles Manson because he was a hippie and they were like,
this is what happens when you do drugs.
Exactly.
But half of this stuff is like, yeah, like CIA was like doing man half of this stuff is like yeah like cia was like doing
a lot of this stuff like there's a lot of projects you can look into that they were doing to like
brainwash people and make them commit crimes that they they never ever would have committed
but but they've used like mind control to to make people do this stuff and again like please guys do
your research don Don't,
don't just like listen to what I say. We're not just telling you to go on a trip right now. Don't, don't.
Yeah. Just go. You can even, you can even go speak to GPT about this stuff,
but it is just really interesting that all of this stuff has been so suppressed in our history
when it is such a part of our history like the mayans all of that those cultures
that were way way way more um like well way more in touch with spirituality i would say than than
the common than the common man you know spirituality was a huge thing for them they would all partake
in in ceremonies where they would take you know ayahuasca and these things to enlighten their minds.
And I think that we do it with alcohol now as like an escape.
And alcohol doesn't open your mind.
It actually closes your mind when it comes to, like, thoughts.
And, you know, you can't really think straight when you're on alcohol.
Whereas if you're on acid or you're on mushrooms or one of these psychedelics
your mind opens up and you start to think of things you've never ever thought of before
you have enlightening you wake up the next day and you're like oh shit i've got an idea for the
book i want to write or whatever it might be alcohol doesn't really do that to you i mean
it does to a certain extent you know hemingway was a big alcoholic there's been some great writers
that have been alcoholic so i'm not saying
it doesn't do it at all but when it comes to that like looking within and all of that i truly believe
that you know you can't really do that with with a substance like alcohol um it just seems to me
like it closes me off anyway but i guess each person's different you know each person's different
even when we're
talking about this stuff i realize that some people don't enjoy this stuff this is like
it would be the equivalent of us watching a magic show and me going oh that's a cool trick i want to
learn exactly how that trick's done i want to know how that magician and then the guys next to me
going i don't want to know how the trick's done. I'm just enjoying the show. That's exactly what we're talking about here. Like, do you want to know what's going on behind?
Do you want to know how these tricks are done? Or are you just happy watching the show,
you know, enjoying life, like carry on, like, do you know what I mean? But there's some of us,
I think that have this like deep urge inside us that want to know, like, how, how's the trick
done? Like, how is all of this shit happening happening why is all of this happening right um i'm definitely one of those yeah i i would say my son t-wop
is definitely like that he's very inquisitive um and and that's kind of how i raised my kids too
was just ask questions don't believe everything that you see um i was the crazy mom who was like
listen we had our own strategy if there was was a shooting that transpired at a school.
You know, I told the boys, get the fuck out.
I don't care if you have to break out of the window.
If you hear that coming from away, zigzag, I don't give a shit.
Don't just hide.
And I get it.
People freeze.
Things happen.
But I always encourage my kids to think on their own, you know,
um, just with any situation. I think it's super important. So.
Yeah. Speaking, speaking of ayahuasca, uh, Papa bear, I have not forgotten about our potential
trip to South America. Just so you know, you guys are going. Yeah. Like for real, because that,
that is going to happen in my life And I'm going to think of you
And I'm going to be reaching out
Seriously
It'll be great
See Jed you need to go too
Well if you're at that stage in your life
I'll have to see how you're doing
But yeah
Papa totally wants to do that
I feel like Babs would do it too
I could be wrong though
Rick will I will I totally wants to do that. I feel like Babs would do it too. I could be wrong though.
Rick will.
I will.
See you.
Babs will be there to anchor me.
Yes.
Can I chime in on something?
Please do. It's so interesting.
Like a lot of this stuff is like they've been in Eastern philosophy.
This has been known for millennia, that it's all, like, I was just listening to
Alan Watts, who talks a lot, does a lot with Taoism, and the interesting thing is that it's all,
like, the simulation kind of thing, the way that, the way at least he describes it, it's like all about, like, you can use the word God, creator,
divine, quantum field, science, whatever you want to call it, but it would be all a drag if you knew
everything that was happening. So it's kind of like, there's part of us that is, at least in my
opinion, that we're part of all of this whole whatever it is that's unfolding.
But in order to continue to, like, it would be boring if we all knew that it was this,
we're all part of that same thing.
So yet, in order to have it, I'm not doing a good job just saying this,
but like, if I knew that I was God, then there would be no experience,
there'd be no joy of discovering myself as that. So that, that source is, it's the game that the
source is playing. So whether that's the matrix or whatever it is, it's the game that the, it's
the game that source is playing to discover itself over and over and over again.
You know? And to make the experience different for others, for sure.
Right. And just to enjoy it and to have fun in this journey and to be, you know, to be,
you know, I think Ram Dass always talked about, we're just walking each other home.
I love that. I've never heard that before.
Yeah, that's what Ram Dass says.
He says, hey, we're just here.
We're all just walking each other home.
If you ever want to just, like, flood my DMs with cool shit like that, please do.
Because I don't know anything.
It's so lovely.
And it's like, for me, I've never done any psychedelic.
So at some point, at this point in the journey, I'm older than probably most of the people in this space.
And it's like, oh, maybe now it's time to try that.
But I must say I've had psychedelic experiences in my life, never once having touched a substance.
Because you can.
And I think that that's also like if you look at the Eastern religions, that that's kind of where they go with a lot of their different things that they do.
It's all that ego dissolution.
It's all that ego death trying to recognize that, you know, this small little Babs is just not really much of anything.
But she is, you know, it's all part of the dance.
It's all part of the dance.
It's all part of the, you know, it's all part of the journey.
So if there's people out there who don't feel like they feel like they can do a psychedelic, there are other ways to kind of have these experiences.
There's other ways to kind of engage these thoughts and this, you know, this amazing part of being alive and being, you know, on this human journey. So that's just my
thoughts. It's funny because we talk about all the time about how, you know, we've been out here on
these streets of Web3 and we have different experiences and we want to help people with
tools to provide them a better experience. It's the same thing in life, right? And like you said,
doing that dance back and forth. And I think that
that's why some of us are further on a journey than others. And that's why there are some people
who are really vibrating with love and light like you, Babs. And you provide a safety for people
who don't know if that's okay. You know what I mean? So we have to not underestimate who we are as people and what
we provide to others, whether it's a simple talk or something you put out. It all means something.
And I talk about this all the time about how we're all just spelling. We're putting information out
into the universe and whoever needs it at that moment can grab it and do what they will with it.
needs it at that moment can grab it and do what they will with it. And if, you know, if we, if,
if they, if you really feel compelled and, you know, drawn to something, that's when it's like,
oh, cool. I'm going to start showing up to these spaces and listening. Oh, cool. I'm going to start,
you know, messaging this person and really getting to know, you know, how things, how other people
see things. And I think that's probably
one of the most, I would say people who are really angry are oftentimes very close minded.
And I've done it myself, you know, I've had definitely like anger spurts and things like that
throughout my entire life and even more recently. But I think it's when I'm more closed off,
you know, I just think everything's going to hurt me and nothing's safe. But I think it's when I'm more closed off, you know, I just think everything's
going to hurt me and nothing's safe. And I get into that mindset. And that's when it's so important
to have just dope ass people around you who are like, Hey, it's, it's cool over here. Come look
at this mama, you know, I don't know, but I think we just forget. We forget.
And especially in this crypto Twitter, this crypto world that we're in, it's so easy to forget.
And that's what I love about, you know, like even as we come together and we see each other in other spaces, we can remember.
It helps us remember, oh, wait, it's a bigger picture.
We're all part of this bigger thing. And it helps us remember, oh, wait, it's a bigger picture. We're all part of this bigger thing.
And it helps us be connected.
So, yeah, I just think, you know, that's the beauty of coming together is we remember.
It is.
We are.
Yep.
It's so true.
Oh, we had CryptoFam Radio come up here.
Hey, CryptoFam.
Mama Bear, how is going?
This is CryptoFam Radio. What's up's up how are you how's your evening going guys good it's nice i'm so excited to be here oh it's nice to see you too don't you love that
like that's the first thing people say when you come to the space and they automatically accept
you as speaker and it's like i don't know it's so cool to. And it's like, I don't know. It's so cool to have
that. It actually reminds me of you. I don't know if you have a dog or you know anybody who has a
dog, but you'll leave for five minutes and you come back and the dog is so excited to see you
as if they haven't seen you in years. And I always thought I need somebody to love me that much.
to love me that much. You know what I mean? When I walk out of the room, I walk back in and Papa's
You know what I mean? When I walk out of the room, I walk back in and Papa's like,
like, oh my God, babe, how's it going? So I don't know. That might disturb me a little bit,
but you know what I'm saying? It's kind of like that in these spaces with the good ones.
Yes. The real ones. Definitely surround yourself with the real ones, fam, because you just don't
know. It's hard. It's so hard out here. But I'm glad we're here.
We're part of the Green Pill Collective. I'm so excited to be here presently present. Mama Bear,
what are we talking about in this space? What can I support in the conversation?
Gosh, that's a good question. We've talked about a million and two things, but
right now we're definitely talking about, well, different experiences with awakening. Some people were actually talking about,
you know, using DMT to get to a different consciousness. And then Babis and I were
just speaking about how life is kind of a dance, you know, and just going back and forth. And
I don't even know, Babs, how
would you even describe what we were just saying? My brain's not fully back yet. I will probably say
we were just talking about different methods of becoming more aware of who we really are,
that we're more than our mind and we're more than our just little personal experiences.
We're connected.
And talking about some folks were talking about the use of psychedelics to help you achieve that awakened state.
Other people were talking about just not maybe that doesn't have to be true for everybody.
But so it's, yeah, it's just being aware of more than just being our minds.
I love that.
I love how we can talk about other things than just crypto too, you know?
Like, I know a lot in these spaces we like to talk about crypto,
but like awakening, that's something too.
That's something that we can hold on to and we can share with others especially those experiences
of awakening i feel like i've awakened a few times in my life and each time it's brought me
a little bit closer um to certain types of people just not in the space, but IRL as well. And I've noticed I've like gravitated or almost
attracted myself to those types of people that have also experienced similar awakenings. Isn't
that interesting? It's like, where does the opposite attract. For sure.
And I always try to remind myself too, something that I've learned from Babs specifically is that, you know, we sometimes get people who attach to our energy.
And I think that sometimes it can be draining, right?
I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that term,
like energy vampires or bloodsuckers, you know? And I think that sometimes we can just really get into a negative headspace on that. But for me, I've tried to learn, like I said, Babs taught me
that if somebody comes and attaches to me, to my energy, that they don't necessarily have a malicious intent. It's just
something they feel that they need from me. And it's then my job and my responsibility to be like,
here, take your energy back with a little bit of my love and light and send it right back to you.
So we always have that. So you don't have to cut somebody off and talk poorly about them or whatever, because we never know what somebody is going through or why it is that they tried to attach to us in the first place.
Yeah, exactly, Mama Bear.
I absolutely love that.
Yeah, there's like this whole drama going on behind the scenes.
It's like we can't mind read.
We're not mind readers.
So we don't know if people are... Would you want to be a mind reader though i don't think i would i'd be kind of scary if i'm being
real honest i don't i don't think i could i feel like during x-men like one of the x-men can't
they like mind read or something like one of the powers i thought maybe yeah professor i just i mean i think yeah there
you go okay okay nice and um phoenix right or whatever her name is she can mind me too right
anyway yeah i don't know i think that because just because a thought comes through me and
pablo were just talking about this this is something I'm working through in therapy right now too, is a thought versus fact. And that is so important for me
because I get thoughts all fucking day long. I'm sure you guys do. You go to bed and you start
thinking about things or your mind starts trailing off and it's like, oh my gosh, for me, it's like,
oh my gosh, I hear a noise. Okay. Somebody's outside. Somebody's going to be inside in a second. I'm going to be in danger in a second.
Well, those are thoughts. It's okay to have thoughts. And sometimes if you point out exactly
what that is, that's a thought, not a fact. It can really help us with processing things.
So that's what I'm working on right now in case anybody wants to know.
So I didn't know you were into therapy, Mama Bear.
That's crazy.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
How long have you been going?
Do you mind sharing a little bit about it?
Oh, Lord have mercy.
I would say this time I've been steady with this lady for about two and a half, three years.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, and I see her weekly.
But I've definitely had spurts where I've gone, you know, for five years before, seven years.
It's really hard to find people that specialize in trauma therapy and, like, complex PTSD, things like that.
And you know what really sucks about therapy is, first of all, it's work.
I commend everybody who goes to therapy because it's not an easy task.
And I think that it's really important to be kind of out. For me, it's important for me to be open
on my journey because I don't want there to be a stigmatism with it. But it's interesting because
I feel like I actually therapy myself. You know, she's there for me.
She might offer a short guidance, and I feel like Babs does that too.
Maybe a little guidance or a redirection, but it's oftentimes just her, me listening,
or me talking, her listening, and then her providing a validation that she understands what I'm saying or validates
what I went through was not okay. Or do you know what I mean? So I think that therapy, I've heard
of some people doing therapy with AI lately. And I'm like, you know, I don't think that's too far
fetched. I really don't. If I'm meeting with somebody online once a week, I don't know that that's too far-fetched.
I don't know.
I mean, I know there's certain things that they just can't,
but I don't know.
It's something about just our brains being able to process things
and somebody listening.
Yeah.
It's definitely coming.
I know.
I'm not sure when, but it's definitely coming.
AI is definitely getting better at a lot of things.
It is for sure. Yep, it is for sure. So did you go outside and enjoy the sunshine today, crypto?
I wish mama bear. I wish I had to work today. I had to work today. I was driving. So my day job is a
limo driver. I don't know if I told you that mama bear, but I do not know that. Yeah. I drive these
expensive limos. And so I'm just drive. I don't own the business or anything. But I literally did
that almost all day today since 9 AM and it's almost 8pm and I'm driving home. And so I haven't been
on spaces all day because I have limited service out there. You know, I've rugged spaces over there
a few times. So where I drive, it's just this strip on Florida on the Keys, not the Keys, but the Panhandle. And it's right next to the beach.
It's called 30A. And it's kind of a go-to place for tourists all over the States. They just come
in waves. I think it starts around spring break. Our season starts and it runs all the way through
the summer into fall with weddings and bachelorette parties.
But anyway, so I've been ferrying a bunch of, yeah, different bachelorette parties and also
some families, meeting them up at the airport, picking them up, taking them to their rental.
And yeah, so we got a big tourist area over, um, yeah, that's what I do.
Uh, four days, four days on three days off.
Okay.
So yeah.
You did that.
That's super cool.
I bet you need some pretty cool people though.
I, um, I meet some interesting people.
You could say that for sure.
Yeah.
Some intoxicated others, not, you know, inebriated, but, um, interesting people. You could say that for sure. Yeah.
Intoxicated others not, you know, inebriated, but, um, it's all good.
It's all fun. Um, it's, it's definitely interesting.
You know, it's kind of like being on space as mama bear. It's like, Oh, I don't know this person, but he seems interesting to talk to you.
We'll accept him and start talking, you know,
like meeting new people every day.
Yeah, it's like that.
But it's like IRL.
And they're stuck in your car or in your shuttle, you know.
At least you get a cool view, though.
I mean, I was just looking at what you were saying, and that's all on the water.
So I thought that's beautiful.
beautiful yeah it's between destin and panama city beach and pcb if you guys don't know it used to be
Yeah, it's between Destin and Panama City Beach.
a big spring break uh spot like back in the 80s and early 90s i guess like mtv was down here and
like it was kind of a big deal like uh things got out of control like spring breakers would destroy
things set things on fire like it was not a great place to go over spring break.
Like it was just crazy.
But I guess the last few years they've cleaned it up
and the spring breakers don't come to this spot as much,
but we still get them from time to time.
They're just not as big as they used to be.
I guess they laid down
some laws and stuff like really strict laws about alcohol and not having it on the beach
and so forth. So yeah, it's a cool spot. It does get warm, but it's fun. It's fun.
Yeah, but it's fun.
It's fun.
Gosh, I think I would like that job, but just for a little while.
So, yeah, I like to meet people.
Do you ever think about, like, kind of doing any content with people?
Just, like, audio where, you know, you kind of shoot the shit with people and then do clips or something?
Or maybe ask them what they know about crypto?
Yeah, well, I've had great conversations with people
about crypto for sure um however there's like this thing of invasion of privacy right that i
always kind of worry about and so um i i think as long as i ask them beforehand i could probably get
away with it but then like then would it flow the same? Yeah. I don't think so.
I think it'd be weird if I asked them first,
Hey,
you mind recording?
And then they get all,
you know,
they get all,
that's true.
They get all proper.
Yeah,
exactly.
And it's not like in the moment,
like we're doing right now.
but you're not here.
You're not with me,
mama bear.
I could be driving both you guys,
you and Papa to the airport or something right now.
And we'd be having a great conversation about health or something.
I don't know.
Well, when we next time we go down to Florida, if we go down to Florida,
BAPS was actually in Florida a few months back.
Right, BAPS?
I was down there for
our Basel.
Oh, no way!
Me too!
Very fun.
We were at Basel in Miami last year.
December, right? Early December?
Early December, yep.
It's amazing. It was really fun.
Where did you go?
Where did you go?
I know there's a bunch of stuff you can do during our Basel, so I'm curious.
So I went to the Basel.
Some of my favorite things were the kind of the side events with the women, which I really liked.
It was the women in crypto.
There was just some amazing people that i met then i also went to see the um
in winwood all of the murals oh my gosh they were insane like that these people can do in the art
that they do and just had amazing conversations with the artists and just had just little soul
connections with these guys who are you know who go to those altered states and do this amazing art.
They bring it back and talk to us about what it is.
And it just was fantastic.
So, yeah, and I'm just shocked.
I've never seen graffiti like that or murals.
They're just like, I can't even describe how detailed and insane.
If you've never seen them um they're just so talented yeah
it was so pretty yeah i went to uh bit basil as well i was in winwood yeah and then
zauchella which was an actual crypto event that was taking place in the winwood district
and i went with the digijoin crew if you don't know the DigiJoin, you certainly
should. Wake and Blake and Moon Queen, they're fam. They're actually kind of like my mentors,
actually. I used to go to their spaces all the time last year. I think I started late summer,
early fall. And so we actually met up at Art Basel with Tricky Buddha
and yeah the DeFi Space Donkeys and who else did I meet as well I met a bunch of people lady never
scared was there I remember her uh and then um some people that are no longer in the space with us, but, um, my heart goes out to them as well.
They've had some life issues, but, um, yeah, anyway, I don't want to get too personal about
their stories, but anyway, um, I absolutely loved, um, all of the crypto crew that I got to meet over
there, the DigiJoint crew anyway, And we're really hoping, and I'm hoping
and praying that
CryptoFam Radio will
be up
in New York for NFT NYC.
I'm trying
to get some sponsors on board. Moon Queen
gave me a few ideas, some marketing
tactics I'm going to try to implement during
my show next
week. So we'll see how that goes.
I just need some sponsors. Everyone needs sponsors in life.
100%. I will be there. If you go,
it will be fun to meet you.
I'm trying to work it out. I want to go, though, for sure.
Did you tell him that you
were gonna be speaking no i didn't that's my dream one day to speak in front of tons of people
oh my gosh yeah you're so brave so next year totally um it wasn't super hard to apply and
i mean it's not like i don't know if it's like it's not i don't i mean i know it's kind of a
cool thing but i don't think it's like super exclusive because they have hundreds and hundreds of sneakers.
So I don't think it's too hard to get it as a sneaker.
Okay, never mind.
Well, no, but it's kind of cool.
You might get a solo spot, but the cool thing is you get a discount ticket.
They give you a VIP ticket for the conference.
Oh, okay.
So it's worth the, it's worth, you know, I'm working for my bags.
I'm not in bags, but I'm working for my ticket and that's okay.
And I feel like I can provide something to the space and bring what it is that I'm bringing.
So, yeah.
So a speaker, are you like on a panel then or do you actually like go and do a talk?
Yeah, I applied for two that you can apply for two
talks um and i applied for two i can do solo or i could do panel so i applied as solo but i gave
them you know if they want to put me on a panel that's fine too yeah cool oh my gosh i'll definitely
have to support you i'm gonna try my hardest yes it's like it would be fun yeah yeah yeah it'll be
so much fun yeah the digijoint
crew already invited me i think they're gonna try to get a bunch of hotel like hotel rooms right
next to each other and stuff so because airbnbs aren't allowed up in new york i think that's what
i heard in a way so that's not true i i'm you know there is definitely airbnb's i that's what i'm saying and i'm saying but it's like a couple blocks away from the venue so um convenient yeah and it's not too
it's you know it's definitely cheaper than the hotels and i can do some of my own cooking if i
need to and you know oh that's not bad that's a good idea yeah i'm looking at cost but yeah um
i'm excited i'm excited for that.
So hopefully, fingers crossed, but everyone should totally go too, because if you meet
IRL, the people you talk to in spaces, the credibility just, it enhances so, so much.
And you just like that, that level of trust just increases as well, because you've actually
seen that person, you've connected with
them on different levels and it's just not by voice but you know like you know hands
body language that sort of stuff um and it also is good because then you can also say oh
uh that that i thought they were this way no, I see them how they're interacting.
That's why I'm like, maybe not so much.
So hang out with that person anymore.
But it's been more positive than negative.
It's totally been more positive than negative.
So, yeah.
Yeah, you can personally recommend them.
You'd be like, hey, I met this person actually IRL.
I can recommend him to you as a
partner or sponsor or whatever
or project.
You should go work with this project.
I met them IRL and they're
cool.
I met Mama Bear IRL. She's cool.
One day. Absolutely.
One day.
You should come to NFP NYC.
Even if we haven't met Mama and Papa Bear, they're still cool.
That's right.
We know we're cool.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
That's awesome.
Oh, it's exciting.
Papa, I had a question, honey.
Were you still wanting to do your B-ish reveal?
Because I'm wanting to wrap up here.
Bum, bum, bum, bum.
Yes.
Weird.
You are?
Yeah.
I had a...
Sorry, I was listening and I was like, is he out front talking to somebody?
I was just trying to figure out what's going on.
No, no.
I thought I was unmuted, but apparently I was not.
Oh, okay.
Okay, cool.
Okay.
Okay, so you went to do Papa House a B-ish, right?
Yes.
I actually, so I won a B-ish the present five in, I think, a few days ago.
And I was like,
Hey,
this would be fun to actually go ahead and,
and actually do a live reveal on space.
Oh yeah.
So I'm actually trying to put the post up there,
but I can't find it.
Did you make a post about it?
So people will know what the hell we're talking about?
I did.
Bish does a lot of reposting. Okay, I'll just go to your page then, because I know you don't do a
lot of posting. Okay, so tell us what we're doing here. This is exciting. Okay, when zombie pirate,
I didn't even interact with that. i'm a bad wife okay i i feel like
i've i've not interacted with a lot of your stuff so yes that's true
yeah um for some reason i don't know why but my the algorithm just you're not always in my Hey, hey. It's sad.
It is sad. Okay.
So anyways, so B-ish actually gave you, you had one.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Okay.
And we're going to crack it open online.
Okay.
So what is it exactly?
Is it like a piece of ice?
Like, oh, it's in the hive.
It's in the hive. Yeah.
And so basically what you do is,
you,
you go into the BS website and you're able to,
they kind of did something similar to how the,
how the,
the bears work.
Right.
So you're,
you're freeing the bee from the hive.
You keep,
you keep tapping and tapping it.
So right now I'm tapping it.
Okay.
Okay.
And keep tapping, tapping.
And was this one a present?
Yeah, it was a present.
So there's a chance.
Whoa!
Okay.
He said, whoa!
Okay.
I'm going to see it at the same time you guys are because I'm not with him right now.
Okay.
First of all,
I will,
I will send it to you so you can see and so you can go,
and then,
then everyone else will be like,
I want to see it too.
Right.
Right.
And then I actually,
I took a video so I can also post it online too.
you should.
Okay,
cool.
Okay.
So where the heck am I?
There's too many windows.
I'm waiting.
I'm waiting.
I can't believe how many birds have flown into our windows today.
It's freaking me out.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, yeah, the thing with the presents, by the way,
so there's a chance that you either get like a special.
What is that?
I know, right?
It's kind of cool.
A special.
So it's either like a zombie, a robot, or a special like one of one.
Okay. Kind of thing. and what did you get this looks like a zombie
but it's a oh it's a zombie i think the the little um here i'll put it up yet i have to upload it now
oh you're gonna do the whole video. Okay.
Well, it looks like he has a gold chain around his neck.
Yes, he's got a gold chain and the monocle thing too.
And it's not a pirate hat, but it is a Robin Hood hat.
So that's close enough.
And do they have pirate hats for you?
That's why I did a post about saying when pirate zombie and.
and then dope made up for you.
that was a different one.
I was like asking for a friend and then BS was like,
Ooh,
LOL. I'm like, I a friend and then BS was like, Ooh, LOL.
I'm like, I'm on Superman.
Watch that be like, they're one of one.
Right.
That would be funny.
Okay.
Where'd you put it, baby?
It's uploading.
Sorry, you guys. It's taking so long.
We thought it was going to be really cool and exciting and like, oh!
It's just dragged out
a little bit further than you would like.
I'm sorry.
But, let's see.
We're sending post.
Sending post. Apparently the 30 seconds that it takes but let's see. They're sending post, sending post,
apparently the 30 seconds that it takes.
Yeah,
that might be too long to.
Okay.
So I just posted it.
Let me actually now go ahead and post it to the top.
So everybody can see.
Well,
tricky Buddha has his hand up.
It's tricky Buddha from defy space donkeys i can kill time
reach the room tag three friends get over let's see how many people before i say something okay
25 people and i'll give away an nft there we go. You're awesome. How are you doing?
Good.
Good.
Much better.
I had a very inopportune migraine on Friday.
And it took me out for like six hours.
And I woke up and I just been kind of doing random stuff.
Multitasking.
Recovering.
Eating some food. rehydrating.
Yes.
You know, every time I lose like three or four pounds on a bad day.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it's crazy to like, you know, wake up and like, oh, I lost five pounds.
I'm dehydrated as hell.
I was just going to ask, yeah, interesting.
Yeah, it's interesting how much water weight,
um, we can definitely lose. It's funny. I think you and I've had, um, a migraine during the same
time. So my pain, I was just talking about just started lifting, um, I don't know, maybe hour and
a half, two hours ago. So, um, that was good, but I'd had it since Thursday night. So I was like,
gosh, it's just will not kick it's tough i i've had
i'm glad you're feeling better though i've had the two longest migraines i had one was three weeks
and one was a week and and the way the week one was like my my first real bad one that was in
like middle school and i was really confused. I was like, what the hell?
Yeah.
What is this?
Yeah.
And now it's like, you know, I don't know.
We still don't know what the hell.
Right.
Do you take medication for it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It seems just like everything is stress and the more the stress builds up,
then eventually something pops.
Right.
Your body's like, I'll keep score for you, don't you worry.
Right, yeah.
I still haven't read that book, The Body Keeps Score.
It's on my list.
But I do have the habit of, if I feel total shit and sleep extra, I'll wake up and my crypto is up.
You know? There's always green candles when I'm like out of it for a while there I was like I wonder if my wife is poisoning me for money
never that
never that no that's awesome well Papa's bee's really cute.
I don't know if you guys saw it up there in the Jumbotron.
It's so cute.
So did you figure out what it is, honey?
It's a zombie.
Was that a pun?
Right.
That's literally what they call them.
Yeah, zombie.
Zombie.
Have you seen the bee have you seen the bish uh tricky buddha yeah i think they're they're kind of a side off from the bearish community
which is awesome so yeah well you came in a little late because we're about to close up here
i was just gonna have Papa close the room.
I'm glad that you're feeling better, Tricky, and I hope that you, you know,
take good care of yourself and get rest and food and most of all, rehydrate.
So, but we'll be back tomorrow.
If that's any consolation.
Yeah, sorry, I didn't get here earlier.
Yeah, no worries.
All right, Papa, you want to close us up
for the night? Yep.
Well, thank you all for showing up today.
It was a very enlightening
and nice
conversations we had today.
We'll be back again tomorrow
for some more.
It's 4pm Papa Standard Time
7 o'clock on the East Coast.
Until then, do something kind for yourself.
Take care of yourself.
And as always, move with intention.
See you tomorrow. you
