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Privacy by Default
Recorded: Sept. 4, 2025 Duration: 1:10:12Space Recording
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Hello, hello. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Okay, we are waiting for three o'clock.
My time, I'm Stephanie, I'm in Chicago time zone and I see that we have Felix here who's
going to be a speaker.
Let's see, Felix, how do I invite you up?
Or do you know how to ask to become a speaker?
Ah, a speaker.
Awesome.
Felix is on it.
Carillo.
Hello.
Hello. Did you get an invitation? Yes. Wonderful.
Hello, Emmy. Hello, Wiskabest women in DeFi.
Glad to see you back here. I'm Stephanie. I am from Geek.
see you back here. I'm Stephanie. I am from Geek. Felix is part of our guest group today,
LonX, Inc. And we usually wait a few minutes, but just a little mic test, Felix. Can you
try it? Is everybody hearing Felix? Okay, let me see if I can hear.
One second.
Oh, I heard something.
Okay, let me see if I can hear.
Um, one second.
Oh, I heard something.
Okay, this is very strange. Okay, let me see if I can hear.
Um, one second.
Oh, I heard something.
Okay.
This is very...
Okay, let me see if I'm here.
Um, what? so Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Karen?
Karen?
Karen?
Karen?
Karen?
Karen?
Karen?
Karen?
Karen?
Karen? Karen? Karen? Okay, let's see if we can try this again.
Can anyone hear me?
And if not, can Kieran come up and take over as host or maybe Emmy?
You're sounding good now.
Oh, fantastic.
Hello, Felix.
Hello.
How are you?
I am good.
I am great.
We need to make me better at regular tech and better.
Well, you're good at what's important, so that's what matters.
You're very kind.
Let's go ahead and start because you have so much to say.
I think that people will benefit even if they're
tuning in after we're live. So I just want to say introduce you to some of the
people in the audience who are on the team. We have Kiran who you haven't met
yet. We have Mo Ginger who is a redhead. We have Emmy.
And we have women in DeFi.
And Continuum is here.
So let's get going.
Felix, you have such a good description of what you're doing with Lonics Inc.
and your initiative to bring privacy by default to the web.
So would you mind just telling us a little bit about that to get started?
Absolutely, I'd love to.
So thank you so much for having us here today.
Basically, I know there's no slides, so I'm just going to kind of tell you a story here
as we go along.
But we were introduced by a mutual connection to Stephanie.
And she is building the layer that we need to prove what we're doing.
And it's amazing.
So we partnered with Stephanie.
She's going to be building out our blockchain solution for the trust and verification layer that we're building here.
So we're super excited to be a part of what she's doing. And we're hoping to bring what she's doing
to everyone in the world as we build this out. So I'll go ahead and start. I'm Felix Carrillo. I'm the CEO of Lonix Inc.
I'm not sure if our other team is going to be on the call today, but I know one of them is not
going to be here for sure. He's got some other things that he's got to do this afternoon.
he's got to do this afternoon. But what we are building is, we are calling it the Nexus,
the Lonix Nexus. What it is, is at the core of it, is an AI agentic orchestration engine
that is going to connect businesses and people in real time. It's a privacy-first blockchain-backed architecture
that basically gives users control of their data and rewards them for sharing it within our
ecosystem. So the problem that we have today is, as you probably are all aware, the internet is
currently broken and we are living
in an extraction economy. So every time you go somewhere, I'm sure as we're on this call,
data is being extracted from what we're doing here on X. Here, wherever we might be using
the internet or apps, our data is being extracted to then be used against us in the form of ads.
being extracted to then be used against us in the form of ads. Businesses are paying a lot of money
to access customers they already have or to just throw ads in front of people with, you know, with
ROIs that are decreasing over time because more people are coming into the game throwing more
money. So really it's just the market right now is based on how much ad money you have in
your budget that you can throw in there to use people's data against them. So we deserve better.
The market's screaming for change, and we're here to build it with our amazing team that we have
put together. So a little bit about what we're doing. So we have license to a patent that allows us to break down people's data into contextual buckets.
And what that does is it allows us to create a highly personalized experience for each user in our ecosystem with our AI matching engine.
We also do what we're implementing as part of this patent is a reverse cookie. Thank you. Okay, I think I'm able to come back now.
I saw I was muted all of a sudden.
Are you able to hear me?
Hello, hello.
Okay, so I see a thumbs up, so I'm guessing somebody can hear me.
All right, perfect.
Okay, so I'm back.
So I'm not sure exactly when I went on mute.
I looked down and saw that my phone was muted, so I'm happy to pick up.
So I'm going to kind of restart with where I was. So what we're doing is we have access to a patent that allows us to break down data
into contextual buckets that we're able to then take snippets of that data to then create cookies,
expiring user cookies that are put on our server to then use our AI matching
engine to provide a real-time user experience that's highly usable for that user.
The big thing about this is that the data that we're sharing with the businesses in our ecosystem
is only going to be the data that's required for them to process that transaction.
So the example I typically use, if you go to your favorite coffee store.com and you purchase a coffee mug that you really like, they do not need to be placing cookies on your computer and tracking or
logging anything else that you're doing. All they need to know is that you bought a coffee mug and
they need to know where to ship it. So they're going to get your name and they're going to get your shipping address.
Everything else will be stopped at our platform level. We're also going to be doing centralized
transactions. That's going to allow us to do a couple things. First off, because our AI matching engine is there, that's going to allow businesses
to compete based on product or service fit rather than marketing spend. So that's a pretty big
change in the way things are right now. If you want to be more relevant to your consumers,
improve your product or improve your service to better fit your target
consumers. With those centralized transactions, there will be a toll across all of those
transactions. That toll will be shared between users and businesses who bring other businesses
into our ecosystem. What's really amazing about this is the transparency of all of this.
Right now, you have zero idea where your data is going, who's using your data, how it's being used.
So what we're doing is we're actually putting that data right in front of you. You get to see
how our AI is interpreting you as a person, as an online user. If you are not happy with it,
or if you want to change anything, all of that is editable by you before anything goes out to the
internet. So you get to really, the way I say this is you get to control your algorithm,
which is completely different than what it is now. So if you happen to be
looking at Britney Spears, just to find out what's going on in her life, and now all of a sudden,
you're getting all kinds of Britney Spears ads for her concert that's coming up, and you do not
want to see those, you can go easily see where that's coming from and remove that from your experience altogether.
So, Felix, I'm back on my account and I'm so glad you were able to explain so much. Thank you for
just soldiering on there. Absolutely. I think, let me stop you there because you've said so many things that turn our typical accustomed world of browsing on the Internet, buying on the Internet upside down. Could we just go back over those slowly, the high points, and then discuss those in a great conversation to say, how is this possible?
Why are you doing it?
And, you know, sort of this interesting economic model you have of user control.
of user control.
Because you just said something,
I mean, I've heard this many times
and I think it's,
let's start with the,
let's start with the,
you decide what to share
and the coffee shop or the e-commerce shop
only needs to know where to send the purchase.
They don't need to know anything else about you.
How did you come up with that?
So, well, through many conversations
and finding out that through this protocol that we have licensed,
we can become a control point
of basically becoming that user trust center between businesses and users.
So this benefits both sides, really. It may not seem to businesses, well, actually to big businesses
at the beginning, that they're getting a big benefit because they're not getting all the data
that they used to be getting. But what they're now getting is trust.
So we are becoming that trusted infomerate and essentially setting the rules of how
data will be shared and how they're going to get that data.
If they want more data, they can get it.
They just have to buy it. And we're creating that
essentially a brokerage for people to own and then monetize their own data rather than it being
taken from them and monetized and them never being able to see any of that value back to them so that's that's awesome and i think um
everybody in the audience comes from the web3 world where you will get a lot of support um and
by the way i endorse felix i think he think he's doing this right. But let me break down what platforms currently do because you say rightly so that they take your data. They know a lot about you.
Could we just talk a little bit about how they take your data and maybe I'll start the conversation and then you could jump in on why you're different?
Yes.
you sign in they say ah that's you paul g is in the audience he signed into twitter i know exactly
what account he's using hello paul g by the way um and i'm going to now track him i'm going to
track him around the web and he has no more control over what the platform is doing to him. And so once he shares anything,
he never says anything on these spaces,
but if he did,
then it would be Twitter's.
And when you sign up for the terms of use,
they say you grant us a license forever
to put this wherever
and for any one of our people using our platform to reuse
your words um so he thought he already lost the right to keep his twitter uh information private
and if he goes on to somebody else then then he's just creating a footprint. So how is that different?
Thank you for that. Yeah, so it's 100% different than that. So yes, our terms are that basically by you coming into our ecosystem, you are consenting to agree which data you want to share with us. And you're able to
pick which data it is out of all that data that is typically collected you want to share. So if
you want to keep certain buckets of data completely private, that is up to you.
You can do that.
And you can consent to share the data that you want to consent.
Whereas you might see in other cases, exactly like you said, in the terms and conditions,
unless you open those up and read them very closely, you truly don't know what data you're giving away
every time you sign up for a new platform.
Because data is extremely valuable.
So how can we find a better way to give that data control
back to the user and let them share in that value?
And that's what we're here to figure out.
And I love this because everybody here knows that I really get centralized
and controlled platforms the way they have been built
because they can change the terms and conditions of use at any time on us.
We have no say.
So when LinkedIn went from we're going to
just watch everything you do to you know the default is now that if you don't update on this
one day which most people missed um that we're just going to let our ai use anything that you
our ai use anything that you you do on this platform and i think they even went said that
they could train their ai on our dms i'm not sure but it's a unilateral decision and you're talking
about much more of a bilateral decision is that right yes so the user actually gets in our system
So the user actually gets in our system has a say in those terms and conditions, if you will.
Right.
So you're getting to say this is how I allow my data to be used.
And this is for how long I want my data to be used.
And then I want it back.
So it's on the flying adjustments, right?
So it's on the fly adjustments, right?
Yes.
Yes.
And that's where we have our partnership with blockchain
that allows us to do these amazing things.
We love that.
We love partnering with you.
Monix, Nexus cannot say,
oh, I didn't see that you took that data back.
Stephanie, you won't let me see
what you were browsing for five minutes and it's on the blockchain that you said that and i love
that you're willing to back that up with your your new platform nexus yeah it's yeah i was just gonna
add that that adds to the trust right because if you if you can't verify it, how do you trust it?
Right.
All we have is our word.
I think we're good people.
I think we have our, you know, the right.
I know we have the right intentions in this, but regardless of how good our intentions
are, how good we want to make this without that trust and verification layer,
it doesn't matter because I can't make the entire world trust us. So that's where
Geek steps in and gives us that trust. And I just think that you're the cat's meow for for doing that felix because the the previous web 3 attempts for own
your data and creating a data marketplace first did not default to privacy first right they they
just said well let's put your data on chain and now we all know it's yours um but they they forgot that element
of maybe let's give the user some fine tuning when they when they use this platform and then
the second thing is the platform itself did not verify or hold itself accountable
or hold yourself accountable to how these exchanges might work.
They let on smart contracts to dictate the terms, but nobody,
they never went as far as you did.
So I do think that holding yourself accountable and being transparent
about what the infamidiary is doing is the critical missing step.
It's really great.
You can't build the trust if we're not transparent, right?
So that's the whole idea behind this.
I love what you said about it's holding ourselves accountable.
We're essentially making a promise to give you control of your data.
How do we back that up?
And it's with those right partners in place that help us prove that to keep us honest as we build this out.
I think, would you tell us a little bit about the right partners that you're getting?
Because some skeptics might say, oh, you can't push against this particular boulder.
skeptics might say, oh, you can't push against this particular boulder.
Oh, absolutely. So it's incredible. And I think Lonnie says this part the best is when we stop
trying, the right people end up in our circle. And we're just blown away every day by the people that we're just being surrounded with of just amazing
humans that are helping us build this platform back for individual humans and putting the human
at the center of it and not the big business. We will provide benefits to big business,
but it's going to be in the benefit of the humans. So we got introduced to Stephanie,
an amazing human, as most of the people on the call may already know. Stephanie introduced us
to someone working with her, Christina. She's, I believe, on this call right now.
Absolutely amazing person
who does quantum data compression and encryption
as well as so much more.
And when we met,
it was just this almost divine meeting
where we realized,
oh my gosh, why have we not met 10 years ago?
And she probably felt that way too, because she's been trying to work this same exact stuff for 10 years. And we have the license to the patent to actually make this work.
And then another partner that we just brought on,
absolutely amazing person, absolutely super successful. He's got amazing connections. He's
raised over 200 million on his projects. He's had been involved in over 20 mergers and acquisitions,
and he's coming in to help us with our strategy and really get this out because when people see
this, they believe in it. They want to be a part of it. And we know that people, and fortunately,
we were able to meet him in person and really get a good feel for him. And so the level of trust
that's in this small group of partners that are building this out together is amazing.
And it just couldn't feel better
to be building alongside
some incredibly accomplished people.
I hope the people who are listening
are getting a feel for who you are, Felix,
because your energy and commitment to this
is true. It's just true every minute that I spend
with you and listen to you. And so I think there is a lot to be said for putting your vision out
there and seeing who comes to be with you. And, next question would be this new partner. Congratulations.
Thank you. Are they from Web 2, a traditional business or Web 3? I think it's interesting to
find these things out. Absolutely. So what's amazing is he is so aligned. So he's been and I'm trying. So we just he introduced himself the other day and gave his background that, you know, of all the things we met him, we met him on a completely different level.
a piece of you. And there was so much more. So he's been involved in blockchain since 2013,
I believe. And he's been heavily involved in AI for the past five or six years. And he's done
several projects involving data. So this falls right into his wheelhouse.
And probably the most amazing thing about this
is as he comes in,
he's bringing a team of developers
that we're already putting to work.
And it's just, it's incredible.
So, and these are developers, our AI experts.
They're working with our CTO, Dave,
who's actually on the call is Jonathan here.
And it's just things, like I said,
things just keep happening
that we did not expect to happen.
That's going to save us so much of our runway
as we're building us out and
allow us to implement new things. And on top of that, I'm not going to mention names, but his
business partner was one of the founding members of a very well-known CRM company that I don't know if I'm at liberty to share, but basically he's also a very highly
successful person that we're going to be having some access to as well as we continue to build
this out. So he brings an amazing team, developers, marketing team, all this stuff that now essentially somewhat comes in-house to us through this partnership and really just allows us to get going much faster.
Congratulations.
I did not know all that recently.
I know.
We haven't had a chance to meet on this, but this just happened.
So quite amazing.
Very. That's amazing.
And I'd love for you to tell me why it is,
or what was said that made these people so aligned,
even though they've,
sounds like they've had long careers.
So why now, why is this happening now and not 10 years ago?
So that's a great question. And I think it can go deep. I'll try to answer it
in the best way I can on the surface level. So really, this patent that we have licensed to has been out for a while.
But with the emergence of AI, and a lot of these new regulations that are coming out with GDPR,
CCRA, and I think there's even like CCRS now, which is a, I guess, a more stringent term or a more stringent regulation.
There's just a lot of things that are coming out and the time is just right.
People are starting to realize and get frustrated.
Not everyone.
Some people really don't care less about their data being used.
But that's okay because when people are able to start being
rewarded for it, it's going to change their minds pretty quickly. And so just the timing with as fast
as AI has been progressing, it's just the perfect storm of everything coming together to launch this project that
we're doing. I think that's so insightful. I think you're right that the first
attempts at Web3 did not have these AI concerns and boosts both sides where AI can threaten privacy.
But on the other hand, if you've got that lockdown, which I know you do,
it's something that can be used for good, right?
You've got to harness those forces.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's the thing.
And that's one of the things how I see this.
So I'm retired military, right?
And I, so a lot of my analogies kind of go back to things that can be used for good and
things that can be intended for good, but then used for bad, right?
And so I always think drones, right?
Drones are amazing.
Drones can give you overhead views without having to spend lots of money on a helicopter to get an overhead view. You can get a lot of things done. You can do
thermo imaging of a rooftop to see where leaks might be. There's so many benefits, but you can
also take a grenade and put it on a drone and fly it easily into somewhere and drop it on somebody,
right? And so that's the bad usage. And that's kind of how I see this technology too. This could be used for the most
amazing purpose, but it could also be used to just extract data at a much better level than people
that it's been extracted. So we want to be the ones to lead this new revolution,
if you will, of giving people back control of the data that should be theirs and should have
been theirs the entire time. Christina, are you there?
And are you able to speak about this confluence of events?
Or shall we just keep going?
Because again, it's technology driven on one side.
But I think another side that's been so frustrating to the Web3 people is we've wanted this. And yet, I think the privacy people,
of which I'm one, has said, well, you know, who's going to come and buy on the buy side?
And I know Christina has a lot of insight, but Felix, you and I have both hung out with her enough to say, will there be demand and where will that come from?
And Christina says, yes, I'm here. I'm actually on double calls right now. Can you guys hear me okay? My Wi-Fi is weird today.
Yeah, we can hear you just fine. But if you if you you, yeah, just. I'll frame it. I'll frame it really quickly from Continuum side.
And then Felix can continue to speak on how the Lonix protocol will address these things because
I'm a big fan of Lonix and Geek and Continuum all working together in our consortium. So hi guys, I'm Christina Brujan,
I'm CEO of Continuum Market.
We are the store where you find blockchain and AI brands
that are high reputation and ready for Fortune 500,
celebrities and luxury brands to understand digital assets.
The reason that we focused on IP rich commodities here
is because we think of data as a commodity. We understand what
the extraction economy is doing right now. I used to do it and build these systems for Fortune 500.
I built some of the protocols that you guys use right now that you guys aren't even aware of,
of why you live in 11,000 databases simultaneously that are buying and selling your data
for a $4 trillion market in
the capital markets economy. We believe that the economy should be driven by consumers and that
rewards should be given directly to them. And so we're starting with a celebrity driven metaverse
fabric for all of this to be introduced. But really secretly, we're teaching you about blockchain and
AI fundamentals, what everyone refers to as web
three. There's an entire regulation classification around products that go out as web three,
and there will be entire new regulations around AI and the privacy of data. Right now, the world
doesn't seem to really care about ownership of their data. They don't really seem to care that
they're being bought and sold all day, every day and being investigated by things like Palantir, Google, Amazon, Facebook.
Love you guys. Please sponsor our events because they're doing cool things in AI, too.
But this revolution of demanding ownership of your data will come from the voters.
And the best way that I can show that these things work is to give you guys rewards that drop right into your wallets.
For some of you listening, you go, what's a wallet? And that's where Lonix comes in. And they take all of this
and they turn it into a profile that you can interact with in the world of a Gentic AI.
This future that you guys don't really understand, it's already here and it's already impacting
capital markets. We want the world to understand it through a trusted reputational lens at Continuum. You can find out more at continuum.market. Reach out to us anytime
at info at continuum.market or follow us on socials at continuum3000 because we're going
to be here until humanity is ready for human-centric AI. Oh my gosh, I wish I had a applause track.
That was great.
Right, so I think what I get from that,
and Felix, please come on back,
is that there have been movements in the background.
been movements in the background. So that might be one reason why these you found people who are
ready to jump at this moment. I'm sorry you broke up a little bit I didn't hear the question.
So I think what I was asking before is, will there be demand?
And Christina just sort of opened the hood under Fortune 500 and said, yes, actually, people have been thinking about this for quite a long time.
And part of the unlock here is going to be the compliance regulations and definitions of commodities.
compliance regulations and definitions of commodities.
And there's just so much going on that says this time,
when we try, it will succeed compared to last time.
Yeah.
So I think a lot of these regulations that are coming out
are really helping kind of move this forward because
the compliance piece is 100% something that all companies are having to look at right now.
And, you know, that's going to drive change in the way that people do business and collect data
and whatever it may be. We're providing that tool ahead of what other people are thinking about in a completely different
way. And on the demand side, like Christina said, I mean, everybody knows that money or rewards
are going to make a difference in this, right? So for the people who do not care about their data being used, what is the hurt in getting rewarded for sharing your data?
Right?
And so you can go do what, I mean, we're not going to force anybody
and tell them you better come into our ecosystem.
But our ecosystem, just the experience alone for what we've built, for what Dave has put together so far before we even have our development team together is absolutely incredible. It is better than anything I've seen in the way that it knows you, in the way that the experience works, and in the way it changes just web browsing in itself.
And with that, coming in with your own assistant that helps you do things.
And if you don't want to dig into the granular details, tell your assistant to do it and say, hey, I don't like seeing this stuff anymore.
Can you fix that? And it'll go in the back end and fix it for you. Right. And so just on the
user experience, even if you don't care about your data, what we're building is going to be
so useful to the general user that I don't see why once you start just checking it out to use it,
that you won't want to just move all of your browsing over there.
And then, hey, cool side note, you start populating rewards inside your wallet.
That's another benefit for those people that don't care, right?
But we meet several people.
And as we talk them through what we're building, I would say it's about 50-50.
About 50% of the people we talk to are blown away and cannot wait to be able to control their own data.
And about 50% of the people could care less.
But...
They haven't experienced it yet.
They haven't experienced it yet.
This is the world we live in.
This extraction economy is what we're living in.
It's what we've been used to.
We've been the frog in the water
that's just been slowly turned up, turned up, turned up.
And now with AI and other big AI companies
launching their own browsers,
they're just getting better and better
at taking your data and doing it i just want to jump in there um because first of all to give
props to dave um who has long experience and many patents building cutting edge tech.
So props to your CTO.
The other thing though,
is that I keep trying to tell our community that paying
attention to the stuff that's going on under the rails.
Maybe it's not the flashiest,
like not spending a hundred million per person
to come to your company or you know releasing things that are work product after scraping the
web 300 times in different countries but that's a kind of game that you don't have to play.
Right?
If you're providing this new form of trust, this wonderful user experience that people
can't even imagine yet, but you're covering those bases like here is control of your data here is voluntary consent to have it have a
commercial interaction here are um control panels that you don't even have to worry about or maybe
you do but they're not going to hurt you um right these are small things that are so consumer focused that it's refreshing,
right? Because it's in service of doing service. And I think that it's really underrated to have
that kind of focus. Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. And it's underrated because where's the rating
system for it? It's not there. Nobody's doing it. Right. So how can you rate it until it's out
there? And so on top of that right now, as most people on this call might be aware, Web3, unless
you really read up on it and know how to
use it and operate within it, is very confusing for the general user, right? I mean, some people
have a hard time logging into email on Web2. So, you know, we are trying to create that easy
button that gives people access to the Web3 trust and verification
layers without having to go through the learning curve of creating and building the infrastructure
personally to manage all that. With the partnerships we have in place, we can build that easy platform that allows the general user to
access the benefits of what decentralized web3 offers i think that's that's what
people that's what i hear is that the user experience
is terrible and it's been discussed at length in crypto circles.
And it just never appears.
Because I think there's calluses on real DeFi Web3 users' hands.
Like they've learned how to do this.
And once you become an expert in something it's very hard
to put yourself back in the mind the mindset of someone who's really new right and and so i think
you're very early and i think you're going to be able to sweep up a lot of people and run them on web 3 mails thank you for choosing geek um to generate a lot of
transactions that other people might not notice and and that's that's great
yeah that's why we chose geek because you are building the blockchain that allows that to happen well we're on the quiet side
we're on the quiet side we don't need to have um we just want the business thank you
we want people safe right so um i think that let's move from there to how you imagine scaling this when you've got such a person-centered focus.
Because I think this is really a place where you and Dave and Christina have talked about handling this kind of data.
talked about handling this kind of data? Yeah. So in this question, so I answer it correctly,
are you looking at how we scale the infrastructure of the platform or how we scale
our users and businesses using our platform? Whichever you would like to answer.
our platform? Whichever you would like to answer. Now I feel like I have to answer both. So
I'll start with growing the ecosystem. So really what we're doing with our ecosystem is we've been
looking at different ways, right? So getting users is great, but users with no benefit, it's like, I mean, it's good,
but we have to build out that revenue stream for this ecosystem to make it profitable.
So where we're starting is kind of a two-pronged approach.
First off is we are looking at the trades. So plumbers, landscapers, electricians, roofers, so on and so
forth, general contractors. They're an underserved market. They have extremely high customer
acquisition costs, and they have a hard time connecting with each other. So if a general
contractor loses his number one plumber, he now
has to go out and start making tons of phone calls to try to find a good plumber that can get the job
done right and for a good competitive price. On the other hand, say for instance, you move to a new city and you need a plumber. Well, how do you know which
plumber you're going to get? Typically, you're going to see an ad for a plumber and you say,
oh, that's a local plumber. I'm going to try him or her, right? You don't know. So in our ecosystem,
what we're creating is that trust verification and rating system
so that you can connect with a trusted ecosystem partner.
And what is beautiful about this is that like Airbnb, like Uber, like these other platforms,
when you interact with that plumber, you will be able to rate that plumbing company.
The plumbing company will be able to rate you as a customer. So basically these rating scores will be continuing to accumulate over time and get more and more accurate. And that's going to basically build even more trust because you can now verify that this is a highly rated, certified, good plumbing company that you're using.
So that's one way is our that's one wedge is getting into this ecosystem and building that out.
Going back into what Christina said
about with the celebrities and the metaverse,
what is really amazing
is everybody's going to have their personal profile.
So what we're able to do with that
is now if you are a celebrity,
if you are a celebrity, if you are a influencer with
millions of users, whoever it may be, your profile now has real tangible value.
So you can strip down your profile to a shareable profile.
your profile to a shareable profile. And if I want to go visit Stephanie in Nashville and
visit Nashville as if I were Taylor Swift for the day, then I could go rent Taylor Swift's profile
for 24 hours and live it up in Nashville as if I were Taylor Swift. I would be getting
the offers and the ads, not really the ads, but I would be getting the offers and the experience
that she would be getting had she been visiting Nashville. So restaurant recommendations,
shopping recommendations, whatever it might be.
Now, go ahead.
I'm laughing because while we're both in Nashville, yeah, you would see a different side.
You would completely, I'm sorry, finish your thought, please.
Yeah. And so also on top of of that what it allows these influencers and
celebrities to do is build these partnerships with these companies in these different cities
so that when you go and interact and purchase from these companies that influencer now first
gets the lion's share of their profile um rental fee if you will, for that person getting to use our profile.
Now, they're also going to get a cut of every transaction that happened because of that
experience that they provided to those users to go visit. So this is going to be a huge draw
for the celebrity and influencer community because it's giving them a completely new revenue stream that's not available right now.
So with those two things, and we have a laundry list or maybe multiple whiteboards worth of other things planned.
maybe multiple whiteboards worth of other things planned but obviously we have to focus on what
are those immediate things that we're going to implement right and actually felix can you talk
about the part two one that one particular kind of profile and things that might unlock
um the veterans oh yes yes so and then also so i'm retired military um our new partner
was also a veteran um and you know that so that's something near and dear to our heart is to
help the veteran community right um there's so many things things. And Stephanie has worked with veteran communities
when she was a college professor. So it's near and dear to all of our hearts to really provide that.
So like we said, people will have a profile that is unique to them. And we can now provide that trust and verification for veterans.
Are you a disabled veteran?
Are you a Purple Heart veteran?
Are you a veteran, right?
And now companies can offer specific either discounts
or revenue shares with veterans or with other certain groups.
It doesn't have to be veterans.
That's kind of where we're starting.
But this can truly grow to any type of group that a company feels in their heart
that they want to set aside some of their revenues to share with that group.
And I just want to, because I want to go back to this privacy by default
rails that you're building into Linux Nexus.
Again, this is the privacy preserving way to browse and to e-commerce of the future.
And that is that the veteran can be identified as a veteran without sharing all the other things that might be, for lack of a better word, to trigger.
Right?
I don't know, Felix, I'm trying to.
Correct, absolutely.
So, you know, it's just like right now, it's like, okay, I'm a veteran.
If I go somewhere and need to prove that I'm a veteran, I have a form, a DD-214,
or, you know, that has all of my personal information on it that not everybody needs
Not everybody needs to know, but they ask for it to verify that I'm a veteran.
to know, but they ask for it to verify that I'm a veteran.
I'm retired, so I actually have an ID card, which has limited information on it, so I can actually show that.
But if you didn't retire, then you don't always have a now give that verification where if you want to prove you're a veteran, prove it through the ecosystem.
Right.
That's right.
I am so excited that you're doing veterans who are exactly an underserved and deserving
population.
And they should be getting the credit, right?
Whether they want to come out publicly
or just have it done very, very privately.
I think this is an amazing use case.
Oh, there's so much.
I will give you a few minutes
to leave the audience with the things that you're looking forward to doing in the next quarter.
And let's just get a sneak peek and I will try to remember the comment I wanted to make five minutes ago.
Okay, I think I heard you correctly. You just want me to talk about where we're going in the next quarter.
So what we're doing is we just created this amazing partnership that I just announced to Stephanie on this call. And we've engaged the development team. So Dave, our CTO, is digging in deep with them to start building on the prototype that he's built so far.
And getting this ready for a downloadable version across Mac, PC, Android, and iPhone.
across Mac, PC, Android, and iPhone.
Within the next month or so,
we plan to be able to start alpha testing
in a very small group
between our close team here.
Start digging into it,
trying to break what we can break.
So when we get ready for a beta test in Q126,
we've already addressed the big issues that might break this thing.
And I should tell the geek community that I volunteered you all for testing whenever Felix and Dave are ready.
If you are beta testers,
I think we can get some people for you.
What an exciting thing to do.
And I can't remember all the things I wanted to bring up, Felix,
because again, you're doing something that's so long awaited,
long awaited and really valuable.
And I think where I'd like to see this go as we keep talking
about it is how this verifiable layer and privacy
working together will extend beyond your initial you know the the trades or the veterans
or the superstars because that will go on both private and public geek blockchain rails it will
go everywhere and i think what people have a hard time holding in their heads is that those two things, privacy and monetization and AI, we can do it all now.
We've got the tools for all of it.
And that's just really exciting to bring together.
It really is. it's hard to believe
and like lonnie and i and dave is probably doing the same thing now have said for quite a while is
sometimes i have to wake up and pinch myself and say are we really doing this um And we are, we're doing it and we've got the right people to get it done. So we're really
looking forward to this next phase of where we're at. We're currently in our seed funding round
right now. So we're looking for investors. We're looking for strategic partners. We're looking for people who will advocate for us as well.
Who are those influencers that we wanna bring on board
and provide that value that can,
that believe in what we're doing.
So go ahead Stephanie.
No, no, please.
It's going to come at you fast, Felix.
I know some of the things that are lined up, Anne. It's going to come at you fast, Felix. I know some of the things that are lined up, and you're going to snowball.
It's becoming very clear, the things that are coming together.
I've kind of said it, you know, so Lonnie and I have been working on this since earlier this year.
this year. And if you've ever seen that first follower video on YouTube, where there's a guy
dancing like a fool out in the middle of the field, and next thing you know, you have one
more person that decides to join this guy dancing like a fool. Well, right now we've got,
We've got, you know, five, six, about ten people,
and it's not looking so foolish anymore.
So people are starting to jump in and want to join the dance.
And that's exactly where I'm seeing it,
and it's just going to be a huge party before we even know what's happening.
I know that video, and the geeks will dance to when they when they
understand what a large project this is and what an honor it is to work with you and Christina and
we've all waited so long yeah it's going to be exciting because you're not just finding one person who's isolated, like you say.
You're talking to people who have ready-made ecosystems for you.
Yep, yep.
And before the time runs out, I do want to say it's an honor working with you.
I want to say it's an honor working with you.
It's an honor working with Christina.
It's just an honor to be privileged and blessed enough to be able to be working on this project.
Like I said, I'm still pinching myself.
Okay.
That was wonderful.
Thank you so much for coming on this week, Felix.
Thank you and congratulations.
And we'll look forward to having you back periodically for our updates
sounds great thank you so much for having us here and look forward to our next meeting yeah yeah
dave uh christina defi king brave emmy lexifix mo ginger thank you for coming live and let's promote this, get this out there so people listen after we're done.
Thanks a lot. Bye bye.
Bye. Thank you. Thank you.
