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PRO AIRDROP FARMERS CLUB!? ☀️☕️ GM W3B3 Morning Show Ep301
Recorded: Nov. 21, 2023 Duration: 1:55:48Space Recording
Full Transcription
What's up, Mo Runda?
What's up, Kerry Ross?
What's up, Vert?
Looks like we already got Anna in here.
That's cool.
What's up, Anna?
Great to see you.
Good morning.
The original KKR.
Right on.
What's up, Kerry?
How are you?
Oh, doing good.
It's a little cold here in L.A. now.
How did you wake up so early?
Well, I tell you, Kerry, it's not an easy process.
I bet you still sound asleep.
Yeah.
That's why my GM post said I think I need a bigger mug today.
I didn't see that.
Yeah.
Need a lot of caffeine today.
But it's all good.
You know what?
What?
This is the last show that we're doing before Thanksgiving break because Q and I are going
to take tomorrow and Thursday off.
Why?
Yeah.
Why?
Good question.
Because we are grinders and hustlers.
We need a little break.
But this is going to be a great show.
So you say.
Oh, well, yeah.
Okay.
Last show of the week, guys.
Everybody at last show of the week.
Exactly.
There it is.
There you go, Kerry.
That's the energy we need.
Last show of the week.
Share it out.
Go on down to that bottom right corner.
Give it the little thumb love action.
Give it a like.
Give it a repost.
Tag some friends.
Let us know in the comments anything that we should be talking about today.
Today is going to be a special show.
It's going to be a great day.
We're going to make it a great day.
GMO, how's it going?
GMGO.
I'm good.
I'm kind of feeling like postponing your interview to next week was the right choice given your
energy level.
My energy is fine.
Everybody, jeez.
This is like normal.
I usually roll straight out of bed, start the show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we never mention it.
We never mention it.
But today we are because you're not going to be here tomorrow and Thursday.
And then we wake up together.
This is part of the process of the show.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Wake up together.
I've been up for an hour.
Getting trolled over here.
Already.
Getting trolled.
I'm not even awake and I'm already being trolled.
Get him, Mo.
Get him.
Who are these cute little kittens at the bottom here?
Yeah.
So we're going to be learning a little bit about that.
That is a good question, Mo.
Because I don't know too much about it.
But they're going to tell us a little bit about it, I believe.
So that's exciting.
Okay, but I was all prepared to ask you a bunch of questions.
So I'm just, you know, I'm going to ask you a question.
Did you have any pets growing up?
That's, those are the questions you were going to ask about coffins?
But I want to know more about you now because I prepared a bunch of questions that I'm not going to ask.
But now I'm intrigued.
All right.
For everybody's context.
Did you have pets growing up?
For everybody's context, at some point, Mo and Jess are going to take over the show.
And so they can interview me about coffins and other things.
And I'm just going to let them run ramshod across the stage and run the show how they want.
But they keep postponing it.
They're all over the place.
We've tried multiple times.
This is not a they situation.
They are just all over the place.
Can't get it together.
So we've postponed.
And next week, at some point, Mo and Jess are going to take over.
Okay.
Truthfully, Jess has a very important meeting.
Yeah, of course.
And that's okay.
Of course.
It happens.
Yeah.
And we're still going to give a shit.
That is okay.
But yes, I had pets.
Mostly dogs.
But I also had a lizard.
An armadillo lizard.
I had a cat named Mel Gibson.
Briefly.
There was a guinea pig at one point when I lived in Australia.
There was a guinea pig and a bunny rabbit at one point.
That bunny rabbit came to a sad end.
Anyway.
Yeah.
There you go.
That's not the alpha anybody's here for.
But great question.
Hey, Anna.
The alpha I'm here for.
Yeah, Anna.
I was trying to get you up.
I don't know if you're rugging or whatever.
But feel free to try again or hop out and hop back in.
Setting an invite.
Come on up and hang out with us.
But great to see you.
We got Righel already here.
The original KKR.
Durzo.
Jawa.
Arts Abide.
Swervis.
Knox Darkness.
Vert.
Vert's here.
It's...
I mean, look.
What else do you need?
If Vert's here, it's going to be a great day.
Carrie's over there commenting.
It's that time again.
Join the convo.
Love it.
Quantum Variants already dropping eggplants for us.
Appreciate you.
Salute you and your eggplant over there.
And, of course, Vert's down there dropping comments as well.
So I'm going to go ahead and drop some comments.
If you want to help us get that algo pumping, go ahead and drop some comments over there in the chat.
Give it a repost.
Let's get some friends in here.
Last show before we take our little Thanksgiving break.
GM Nifty Q.
Sir, how are you?
I'm doing fine.
How is everybody doing up here?
Are you doing fine?
You were pretty sick yesterday.
You sound a little better.
I'm still coughing profusely, but it's getting a little bit better, I guess.
All right.
It's a start.
I'm glad we're shutting down the show on a Tuesday because this week's already out of control.
I'm good to just sit back and watch this shit.
This is a wild week.
Yeah.
We just got to get on top of it.
What's up, AJ?
I see you.
Great to have you joining in here as we get things kicked off and started.
But yeah, Q, anything else besides just feeling like dirt that you want to share with us here
up front?
Local news?
I bought a Cake Nygaard piece.
Yeah.
Let's go.
So that's that.
Is that your first Polygon NFT?
What?
Avogadro Gang.
Well, how are you going to talk to the Avogadro Gang like that?
Can't do that.
I love how offended you just got by that question.
That was hilarious.
What?
That was for all the gachi.
All right.
We're alive.
We're here.
Ladies and Degenerates.
We're waking up together on a Tuesday.
Yeah.
Tuesday.
Tuesday, November 21st.
It's Thanksgiving week.
Get yourself together.
I'm just giving myself a couple slaps in the face real quick.
Y'all, we're waking up.
He's already checked out.
We're waking up.
Yeah.
Thanksgiving break starts tomorrow for us.
So this is the last show of the week.
So share it out.
Let's make it a great one.
You're going to have an amazing day.
There's a very special mint happening on Proof, by the way, in like T minus 45 minutes.
So we'll mention that up front.
Herbert Franca.
I think I'm saying that right.
Herbert W. Franca.
Frankie.
Franca.
He's like a.
Franca.
Franca.
Yeah.
That's probably it.
Franca.
That's probably it.
Franca.
I think that's it.
But he's like a legendary.
We need to put some more respect on this man's name.
He's like a legendary OG computer scientist, computer artist who was like making some of
the earliest computer visuals and generative art and shit back in like the 50s.
And he apparently passed away last year.
But prior to his passing in 2022, Franca was actively working to bring his code on bringing
a code on chain.
And Proof has a hold of this, which is actually a pretty cool thing.
Pretty special.
So this project is called Zentrum.
And yeah, it's dropping on proof.xyz at 9 a.m. today.
So in like T minus 45 minutes, 41 minutes and 57, 56, 55 seconds.
That is going to be dropping.
It looks like it's a Dutch auction starting at 5 ETH.
Only 222 total supply.
I would love one of these.
I think it's probably going to do very well.
I do not think I have enough ETH in my wallet right now to get in on this because I'm guessing
that they're going to mint out for a couple ETH or at least around like 2 ETH given that
there's only 222 and this is like an actually historic project.
From a historic figure.
But yeah, Biggie, Biggie, I think was the first one to call attention to this.
GM Biggie.
GM, brother.
How you doing?
So good.
I mean, now that you're here, we can really start the show.
I feel great.
Love it.
Yeah.
Took me a while.
I'm still out getting my steps in with my dog.
But dude, Zentrum, huh?
It's beautiful, man.
I really like it and I dig it for all the historical contributions and, you know, the narrative of
how he was working on it before he died and it finally got completed.
Having said that, yeah, I think it's going to mint pretty high.
I think we have, like, my counterpart to this would be the Molinar mint from Sotheby's or
Christie's Sotheby's, right?
I think it's going to play out similarly, probably mint high.
But I don't know, you know, as much as I dig the historical narrative of it all, I'm looking
to maybe pick it up secondary.
Secondary?
Like, what do you, I mean, I feel like this is going to mint out.
I feel like this is going to mint out around two, two and a half ETH and then be listed
on secondary for, like, 10 ETH.
It's true.
Well, time, you know, and the goldfish memory of many people, I think when you don't get
the, when you don't get the pump or something new, some shiny new object comes along, people
end up, you know, going towards that and sometimes selling not at the optimal prices.
I just, you know, I'd love to get in on it.
But like you said, I think initially it's going to sell pretty, pretty expensively.
Like, I just don't see why anybody would sell it for much less on second.
Like, like, I feel like they'd sell it for much more.
But anyway, I wish you luck with that.
I wish anybody luck with this because this is going to be a very special project.
Again, it's called the Zentrum by historical figure in computer art.
Herbert W.
Franca dropping on proof.xyz in 40 minutes.
If you want to try and get in on it.
Did you try and generate an output?
I mean, explore the algorithm.
Maybe I'll do it while we get things going here.
Yeah, you can go play with the algo right now.
Yeah, it's fantastic, man.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, it's pretty easy.
You just click generate new output.
It just creates a new one.
But yeah, you can go run Zentrum on the website for fun.
Why not?
I also love that take that you were saying that why would anybody sell for less?
They should always just sell for more.
Like, that's not what we'd all want.
I would love to sell everything for more than I bought it.
I mean, look, people with shit coins and PFPs buy them and then floor them within minutes all the time,
which is one of the most egregiously ridiculous things in the whole space.
But with something like this where there's only 222 of a historic generative art piece, I don't think that's how people behave with this.
If you're spending two to three ETH to mint something, you're not going to go floor it for less than that in like a day or two.
Like, that's just, I don't know, I'd be shocked.
Oh, not in a day or two, but say a couple of months down the line.
Yeah.
All right.
Yo, we do have to say hi to some new friends we have up here joining us who are going to share a little bit about themselves here once we get things off and running properly.
AJ and Anna, GM to you both.
How are you doing?
Doing all right.
How are you?
So good.
Just waking up, getting my coffee in me.
Oh, perfect.
This is the place for that.
That's what we do together.
How do you guys like the morning show route?
I'm more of like a late night space person.
Yeah.
It can be tough some days, but I don't know.
There's something about like waking up together, tackling the day together, you know, setting a vibe, setting a tone, trying to get ahead of things.
You know, it's cool.
And there's also like a million different late night spaces, and most of them are garbage.
So I don't know.
I like trying to be an early bird if I can be.
It's not easy, though.
Yeah.
I'm more of like a late night, like night owl person.
I'm usually not even up at this hour.
Well, this, I mean, so great sacrifice you're making to be here, and we appreciate that.
That's good for my sleep schedule, so you guys are really doing me a favor.
How do I sound?
Hey, good morning.
Do I sound okay?
I got a new one.
Sound like absolute garbage, honestly.
Oh, fuck.
I just spent $500 for nothing.
Yeah.
Maybe go back to bed and try again tomorrow.
No, I'm just kidding.
What's up, AJ?
You sound pretty good.
Why?
Did you just get a new mic?
Yes.
Did you set up?
Yes.
Right on.
All right.
Well, excited to have you testing that on us.
We are your guinea pigs.
No, no.
I mean, I tested it before, but I just want to make sure it doesn't sound like shit now.
But anyways, good morning.
Good to see you.
We actually met a few weeks ago on a space, and I really appreciated just your view and
just everything about you.
And so I was like, wow, we need to connect.
And so here we are.
And then I really wanted you to meet Anna.
And by the way, Anna doesn't sleep early because she's like a founder slash engineer, so she's
always doing something and building something.
But I do think sleep schedules are important.
So I'm glad we're here early.
Love it.
Yeah.
And I mean, I appreciate that.
You know, you don't have to, but glaze me, glaze me harder.
Glaze me all you want, man.
I appreciate that.
It feels good.
And yeah, shout out Jared and creatorhood for making the introduction.
I appreciate good people meeting good people and all that stuff.
But yeah, we're going to kick it off here proper in just a moment.
Blast is blasting off.
We've got another potential Ponzi scheme from Paradigm.
Could be cool, though.
Stay tuned.
We're going to be digging into what's happening with their new L2 Blast.
The SEC is coming for us all.
So who knows?
Maybe this conversation won't even end.
Maybe before we even wrap up, we'll all be in handcuffs and in front of a judge.
I don't know.
The SEC is coming for us, though.
We'll be talking a little bit about that.
Hold on.
Hold on.
The DOJ isn't, though.
So we've got red light, green light here on the market.
DOJ is actually settling with Binance today, 3 p.m.
That's what we say.
That's the rumor, at least.
Right on.
How much?
What do you think the figure is, Q?
For Billy?
I'm saying they got in the room and they hassled a little bit.
They're like, hey, we'll take a little Billy off the top.
You take BNB?
Can you go?
Okay, we'll give you the for Bill, but you have to stake it.
Yeah.
I mean, that's going to be one of the interesting things about Blast, right?
Is that it has, like, native, native yield.
Okay, this is one of the things that we're going to do today, right?
We're going to play a drinking game.
Every time that somebody says native yield, you have to take a shot.
That's how this works.
That's going to be the buzz phrase and buzz term for the next couple weeks.
Yes, shot of caffeine and or pre-workout.
Yes, those are acceptable.
If you like to be taking shots of alcohol first thing in the morning, maybe see somebody about that.
You know, that's really healthy because I was wondering what you were going to shoot.
Huh?
Yeah, pre-workout and espresso.
Oh, come on.
Pre-workout and espresso.
Maybe some Gatorade or lemon juice actually is acceptable.
We do do shots of lemon juice sometimes on NFT Live.
Can I have one term to this, GIF?
Can I have one term?
Sir?
Yes.
Go ahead.
I love the Lucky Trader space.
I'm going to preface that.
But they're, like, single-handedly trying to kill the term mid-curve.
So, I'm going to do my best to battle this because I do like the term mid-curve, but they used it, like, 18,000 times.
So, let's add that.
Don't tell me they're mid-curving mid-curve.
Oh, God.
I think it sounds kind of sexy.
Look at that mid-curve.
I mean, Mo, you know what else sounds sexy?
These nuts.
These nuts.
Got him.
I didn't get her.
We tried an early deez-nutzing this morning.
It didn't work out.
Did you see how I timed that?
I did it perfectly.
It was so perfect.
You're perfect.
You're all perfect.
Y'all, this is GM Web 3.
It's the greatest morning show I've ever invented on any timeline by anybody in any universe.
I'm so happy that you're all here.
I'm Gifted, the Goku of Ethereum, joined by some of our favorite co-hosts and contributors up here on stage.
If you haven't gone down to the bottom right corner of your screen and given it a little tapy-tap, some little tap action, giving it a like, giving it a repost, maybe commented, throwing some eggplants or peaches or whatever weird emoji you want to put down there in the comments.
Go ahead and do that for us.
It really, really helps, and it's honestly the best and only way to support the show.
Sharing it out.
Let's get some more friends in here.
Let's have a good time.
It's the last show of the week because Q and I, we are just desperately in need of a vacation from you all.
No, I'm just kidding.
But we are taking tomorrow and Thursday off.
So this is the last GM Web 3 of this week.
So share it out.
Let's make it a great one.
We got some new friends here.
We got Anna and AJ.
They'll be telling us about what they're working on with, yeah, with their Kitty Dow, Nineverse.
Sorry, I'm still learning about it.
The Kitty, is it called Kitty Dow?
Kitty Collective?
Kitty Inu?
Yes.
Yes.
All of the above.
Yes.
So we're going to be, I'm excited to learn more about it.
We'll be talking about that.
I'm also expecting Jiwa and maybe Blue Moon.
Oh, Blue Moon's already in here.
So Blue Moon, come on up and hang out with us at any time.
They'll be up here talking a little bit more about what they're doing with his upcoming Art Blocks drop AXO.
It does drop within the week.
And of course, we're very, very excited for what they're doing.
So we'll be talking to them a little bit as well.
Maybe there will be a Cake Nygaard sighting.
We don't know.
He's dropping on Magic Eden, but he's in the room.
Who knows what he's up to?
He's just a wild man.
Can never anticipate what's going to happen when Cake's around.
And then, yeah, we're just going to cover off on the latest and greatest Web 3 news and headlines from around the space like we do.
So, all right.
We said all the things.
With that said, I got some weird white boy rappers that, some new music, whatever.
It's called Monkey Bars.
We're going to kick it off with this, get some vibes in it up in here.
What an introduction.
Right?
Yeah.
I mean, look, their names are Easy Mac and Cal Scrubby.
So you decide what you think.
Yeah, whatever.
We'll give it a shot here.
You know I like to find some new music for you.
It's part of what we do here.
It's part of the service we provide here on GM Web 3.
So we'll be back in just one minute.
Share out the room.
Let's heck and go.
Yeah.
Sad news for you, kiddie, kid, kids thinking that you can't lose.
Now it's really grim, grim thinking that you're sweaty, but you're really Slim Jim or Jay-Z, but you're really his kids.
You're not a boss.
I designed the business.
You can suck my, I replied, the bitch is 10.
When you see the size of this dick, it's scientific, not science fiction.
It can touch the clouds.
Yeah, the sky's the limits.
Plus, it's good for you like a vitamin is, yeah.
They all know I'm high, I'm different.
Never had to try to fit in.
Raised by a family guy in Simpsons.
Wait, wayfair told me buy this infant.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't go there.
No, his hair's burnt down from the coke shared.
With a groupie in St. Louis, now we're both staring.
Out the window without blinking, thinking, thinking, thinking.
All these little pills keep on falling on me.
Pick them up nice and then call the lobby.
We need more stripes and a lot of mommy.
Lay down now, eat my sides.
Oh, baby.
All right, that was monkey bars.
What'd you think?
Bro.
Come on.
We got to do a whole show after that now.
That's just, I'm fucking pissed.
I'm pissed that you had to.
That was a good giggle, actually.
It was funny.
That took down your play average.
Like, your songs have been pretty hot.
They're always hot.
It's the hottest.
We're dropping the hottest new tracks here on GMO3 daily.
On my chinny chin chin.
Yeah.
Hello, salami or whatever.
Look, just to get those reactions, it was worth playing that song.
I'm going to feel great about that for the rest of the day, frankly.
And all right, we're here.
We're doing it.
But I'm gifted the HumbleWeb3 Sherpa, your HumbleWeb3 Sherpa, a.k.a.
Mr. Roundtrip GIF, a.k.a.
Mr. Live Mint, joined by Mr. 3-3, the godfather himself, and these awesome people here up on
stage, as well as you.
I see you.
I see all of you.
I wish I could name you all.
But yeah, Squashman, Quantum, Knox, the HODL Collective, HODLer Collective.
What's up, Lost?
Great to see you here early on a Tuesday as we kick things up.
Come up and hang out if you'd like.
We'd love to hear what's going on with the AIP's ApeCoin DAO in the castle.
Ronan's here.
Holy shit.
All right.
I can't name everybody.
But just know we see you.
We love you.
We appreciate you.
We're so happy to have you here as we get into the show.
All right.
There's already a bunch of things pinned up in the Xbox queue.
Let's hit some quick, quick, optimistic.
You know, we like to start positive.
We like to get the positivity out there.
Any quick, positive headlines or housekeeping that you want to touch on briefly before we
kind of shift into talking about what Anna and AJ are up to?
Absolutely.
I mean, this DOJ news is gigantic.
It's huge, bullish news.
The DOJ announcing Binance Settlement press conference at 3 p.m.
I believe Pacific time.
Let me make sure it's Pacific or Eastern.
But I think the initial report was that the DOJ was coming out with something, but it was
there wasn't really any details around it.
Then it looks like Watcher Guru.
I don't know who actually broke it, but Watcher Guru is saying here that they're actually settling.
And we got the news earlier this week that it was going to be for four bills.
So we don't know exactly what the settlement is.
But I mean, think about it.
This is gigantic.
This might be the most bullish news we've seen this entire cycle.
Think about it, bro.
All right.
Why is this such a big deal?
So the thought here is that if they settle, then Binance is basically free to do whatever
the fuck they want.
Why is this such a big deal?
Yeah.
What you just said, very simplistically, Binance has been at odds with the U.S.
regulations for a long time.
So the fact that we get some sort of settlement with U.S. regulators is awesome for Binance.
Like they're one of the, if not the largest exchange in the entire world.
So having them be back, I wouldn't say like back in the U.S., but it certainly opens a door
for them to start to work with the U.S. regulators to offer to U.S. consumers.
So that has been shut for a long time.
This is the most bullish news we've seen this cycle by far.
All right.
That's interesting that you feel that way.
I mean, I guess that does potentially open up there to be more competition, marketplace
competition in the U.S. if they can sort something out to free them up to be able to, you know,
offer their services here in the U.S.
But that's assuming that they have a path to continue to operate.
Yeah, good point, Biggie.
That's kind of what I was thinking, except you said it better, smarter.
Well done.
All right.
Well, that's happening.
So I guess we'll be paying attention to how that rolls out here later this afternoon.
But some potential positive movement maybe coming out of this.
I want to clear this up, Biggie.
So you're saying the settlement would be for them to not operate in the U.S.?
Like that you're saying like outright they would come out with some sort of like, hey,
Yeah, I think there's a possibility that it's just like what they would call asset forfeiture
or whatever fancy term they want to come up with.
But it's basically a shakedown saying we're not going to go after you.
But either way, you don't have permission to come into the United States and keep operating.
You know, just yeah.
A shakedown.
Yeah, I guess I'm not as.
It's happened before, right?
Yeah.
Well, that's a little bit.
That's a different situation.
I'm coming at this a little bit more skeptically, kind of like Biggie, because, you know, we
see what they're doing to Kraken right now, apparently like going after them again after
they already sued them.
I just feel like they're not trying to offer any sort of easy way for for Binance to be
actually doing business here.
But who knows?
Maybe you're right.
Maybe maybe it is an actual optimistic or positive move.
And we'll have more to share on that maybe later today or early next week.
I don't want to spend too much time on that one.
But any any other quick hits, quick headlines, optimistic things that you want to call out
here up front?
Yeah, I mean, Kraken is not positive, but we're seeing that along the same lines today where
we're getting some sort of movement on the regulatory front with Kraken.
And so I'd be down to jump into that and look at kind of the wording that they're being
used in that case.
The other piece, I guess, is the people that said the blur airdrop was going to be good
for NFTs or bad for NFTs were actually right.
No one, I think, saw the the release here of let me make sure I'm getting the word.
Yeah, no one saw the release of blast coming.
I think no one predicted that.
But yeah, adding to the Ponzi to make sure blurred and drop in price.
And certainly that's hurting NFTs right now.
The the blur airdrop is not rotating into NFTs like some of us guessed.
It's moving into this blast layer, too.
Yeah, I didn't see necessarily an L2 coming, but I'm not surprised at all.
Like I absolutely was expecting them to do something to keep the party going, you know,
to keep their farming going, keep all of the attention and liquidity, liquidity on them.
Just didn't know what that would be.
But yes, they are launching blast L2, which, you know, again, they call it the first L2 to
have native yield.
I think that's what they're saying.
So everybody take a shot.
Hopefully you've got whatever you've got.
So we'll be digging into more of what that means here in a little bit.
That's like a bigger convo.
So we'll spend some more time on that.
But yeah, that's that's that's an interesting point, right?
That's maybe why we're not seeing much of a pump or much positive momentum in the NFT
space is because a lot of that farming and liquidity, any of that might be going straight
there or to other places instead.
The quick other update there, just as far as like drama or headlines or breaking news
coming out of this yesterday was like who who did well and who didn't namely specifically
Machi did not do especially well.
Some interesting things going on there.
I don't actually fully understand why he got hit so hard, but apparently he lost over 14
million dollars farming on blur.
That's that's what's been reported.
I have not independently verified these numbers, but OK, so so for Machi himself, this sucks.
So no, no one go running and tell Machi we're talking we're talking about it on him for eight.
This is amazing for eight.
This is my first thought because I'm so you're seeing the opportunity here.
Yeah, he is going to go balls to the wall.
Oh, that man has so much ape coin.
It's hard to even talk about it.
And he wants to recoup some some funds, I'm sure.
So, yeah, hugely bullish on ape chain.
And the reason he got hit so hard was, you know, the different farmers had different strategies
and his strategy did not work.
So there were I saw a report of like someone threw in someone had allocated like maybe two
or three ETH and farmed like 80 or 90 thousand dollars worth USD.
So what's up, Biggie?
Yeah, that was fantastic, man.
I, you know, I never really focused on the whole airdrop.
So I didn't really speculate on the ins and outs of all of this stuff.
But it was it was crazy to see, right, that somebody like Machi that threw 14 million
got screwed over so badly while other people were ever were able to leverage like small
positions into like crazy returns, man.
Yeah, it is wild.
And so I'm sure we'll be dissecting and looking at a lot of that and sort of the fallout of
this blur season two here over the coming days and weeks.
Again, we don't spend too much time on that here up front.
Um, but the bigger, OK, let me let me just add to that, because NFT go I'm going to put
it up in the Xbox if you want to look at like Hanway, I think was the biggest winner.
He got like seven mil NFT go actually put out a really cool thread on his strategy.
So I'll just put that up there.
Cool.
Yeah.
And there is a chart up there if you want to see some of the big winners.
Um, all right.
The bigger narrative that I do want to get into further on the show today is just this idea
of like, it seems like it might actually be starting to pay for not, not for everybody,
obviously again, but, uh, it seems like it might be starting to pay again to be a DJ.
Like, like you might be able to be a professional farmer with the way that things are going.
The farming season, the airdrop season, whatever you want to call it has really been heating up.
I mean, there's just so many different protocols, so many different games, so many apps.
Uh, so I want to dig in further to like what kinds of strategies might actually be the best
bang for your buck, the best ways to be spending your ETH, your time, your resources, your resources
right now.
So we'll be getting into that a little bit later in the show as well.
Um, I, I, I don't want to spend any real time on this, but I do just want to say it in
passing, um, you know, given what you just said, Q about this blur season two, not actually
helping NFTs at all, that they're just keeping the Ponzi going, keeping all the attention and
liquidity, uh, and to their own, you know, machinations, things that they keep spinning
out.
And that the way that the incentives that they, that they used on blur season two, Marty already
knows where it's going.
Like all of this said, it just doesn't seem like paradigm.
Oh, and then, and then you look at the fucking art gobblers too.
It just doesn't seem like paradigm has really been, uh, a good force for the NFT community
at all.
Like that's just how it feels to me.
Just all of their moves do not seem to add up to any, any positive movement for NFTs in
general.
Um, that's just, you know what, I'll just throw that out there and we can get into more
of that later.
Um, I do want to shift gears here in just a moment to talk with Anna and AJ who've been
very patient.
Um, so I want to do that, but Marty's here.
So of course we can't do that yet.
Marty, Marty's got to give us his two sats.
GM, Marty, how's it going?
Should I ring the bell?
No, no.
I just wanted to clarify.
So you are officially still mad at blur.
I just wanted to see where we lie on this.
Because it seems like being mad, being mad at a marketplace isn't really a good, uh, expenditure
of energy.
Um, I think I'm just trying to point out the net effects don't seem to be great for the
NFT space.
Are you, are you mad about, are you mad about me doing that?
No, I just haven't been mad at blur for a long time now.
I thought I didn't know anybody was still real mad at blur, but who's, who's mad?
Who's mad, bro?
I thought you was mad, Marty.
You seem mad about blur.
You seem mad about blur.
Marty got a little bit of a bag.
They had that growth hacking piece, which they seem to be great at, but the, everyone
was posting about the, the, the amount they got.
Marty, you got, you got a little bit there.
Yeah.
With 2000?
No, it wasn't nothing.
But like, you know, the first season was a good airdrop.
The second season, I didn't really do anything for it.
Cause I was kind of like, I already quit NFTs like three times in the last six months, as
you guys know.
But, uh, I think this next time around, uh, uh, it's going to be winter time where I'm at.
It's going to be snowy.
So I think I'm just going to mess around with blur and blast and be more friendly towards
them.
So Marty, are you, are you mad at NFTs, bro?
Yeah, dude.
Like every other day, I'm mad at myself and my, my inability to learn from my mistakes
more than anything.
But I'm not mad at blur anymore.
Your trading works off the seasons, huh?
Like you get a little cold and you get inside and you start farming a little bit more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I barely have had time to sit at a computer.
I feel like the last six months.
And so like now it's dark at five o'clock, maybe I'll, maybe I'll dive in a little bit
more and stuff.
What are you doing in my swamp?
Yeah.
Well, Marty, we're very happy that you're still in our swamp and that you came back to our
group chat and that you're back, uh, again with us here because it is pro airdrop farmers
club season.
I don't know.
Look, we're here.
Yeah.
I want to ask you a question here.
Cause like you, you, basically you kind of laid the gauntlet there.
You're saying like for, for the most part, uh, blur has been bad for the space.
Paradigm has been bad for the space is what you're saying.
It's been very attractive.
There are a couple of people that are, that are, I like the Mount Rushmore debate.
Like, I don't, I don't know why I do, but I, I find it interesting.
You're obsessed.
Yeah.
I love rankings.
You know, I love my, my rankings, my rate, my bags, but there, there are people saying
that, you know, Pac-Man is on that Mount Rushmore for NFTs and yet that you're here
saying that he's been like one of the worst people for NFTs.
For NFT.
Uh, all right.
That's a bigger combo.
Let's put a pin in that one and come back to it.
Cause I'm sure you can make a case on either side.
Um, but yeah, that's, that's like a whole debate.
Maybe we do a just straight up fucking debate on that one.
All right, Biggie, quick, quick thoughts here, because I do want to shift
gears.
I'm trying to get everyone in, but also need, need to move the show forward.
So Biggie, go ahead real quick, please.
Yeah, brother.
Uh, yeah, I'm excited to get into that debate myself, you know, regarding airdrops.
I think, you know, I don't think paradigm is bad for the space.
I do think that these airdrop ponzinomics or like the hoop jumping that they're
requiring everybody to go through is going to lead to some sort of pushback or
exhaustion.
I think we're seeing it already, right?
Like on the front tech side queue, like it's,
it's all right.
Like to require like a certain amount of like actions, right?
When you're trying to get engagement and people to like claim or hold your
token, right?
Something like Pythia, where you make a couple of trades, bridge a token,
do a couple of actions.
But when you prolong it the way blurred did, and then right after follow it with a
new fucking Ponzi, I think it's going to lead to some form of airdrop exhaustion
down the line.
Yeah.
They're, they're, they're abusing the shit out of these models for sure.
Yeah.
I think your big, you're spot on.
Like it feels like a house of cards like that.
They added another layer too.
Yeah.
So adding that level of continued Ponzi is, is interesting.
And to see what the second order effects will be.
The one thing I'll say about this, this like in general is like the web three is
great at growth hacking.
Like it's, it's great at getting a lot amount of people together very, very
quickly with a shit ton of money.
But the issue is if there's no substance behind that, it can turn out really,
really bad.
And, and I think that, that that's where Frentech is right now.
Like they brought in a ton of people, a ton of money and the product while they
had the people there, the product didn't iterate fast enough.
And then you saw people say, Hey, I'm onto the next.
So yeah.
And it was designed by the same person, that next one backed by the same
people.
It's kind of crazy.
And they just keep spinning these to your point.
They keep spinning the same people in the same liquidity and the next thing
without actually delivering anything of substance to your point.
So anyway, all right, that's a quick debate on what's going on with blur paradigm
and their new L2.
We'll dig into that more later, I'm sure.
But ladies and degenerates, I do want to shift gears now and talk to our new
friends up here who have been very patient as we sort of wake up and start to
get into some of the recent headlines and news.
If you haven't shared out the room, go ahead and do that.
Y'all, it's the last show of the week.
Shout out Jerry Paws down there.
Great to have you.
8NAP founder, collector's corner.
Andy James in the castle.
Claire McGuire.
Holy shit.
Easy in crypto.
Chris Mullins.
Look at all these amazing people.
Y'all share out the room.
Let's get some more friends in here.
Let's make it an amazing heckin' day.
Because yeah, we got some cool stuff to talk about and a lot happening.
And it's the last show before Thanksgiving.
So y'all, share it out.
It feels good to share cool shit on your timeline.
Let your friends know this is the spot.
Go ahead and do that.
And again, it's really the only and best way to support the show.
So we appreciate you.
And without further ado, we're going to talk to our friends Anna and AJ here about the Collective and Kitty Inu.
Let's go.
All right, y'all.
Thanks for being patient as we sort of wake up and get into our groove.
It usually takes us a minute or two to warm up here.
But yeah, please, please introduce yourselves.
Tell us what the heck you're doing.
What I mean.
That's a weird way to set it up.
But you know, yeah, give us the question.
Dude, your setup is great.
Your show is great.
No, honestly, everything is great.
I'm not trying to butter or glaze you.
But I'm just here to really enjoy the show and see how you guys do things too.
And yes, we could talk about it.
Like for me, my experience in Web3 goes back a few years.
And I'm a Twitter space host, kind of like a marketing brand guy.
I was the first host for Friends Radio, worked with Alien Friends, Happy Seals, did a bunch
of stuff in spaces.
But that's basically my thing.
Anna's more of the tech homie on the stage.
Like if you guys have any tech questions or anything you want to know about the tech side
of things, like she's the one I go to to ask questions.
So for me, I just wanted to contribute to the space first off.
And then, of course, let you know what's going on with Kitty, which is to me, I've been talking
about Kitty for a couple of years.
But the thing is, they haven't dropped an NFT up until now.
They haven't dropped their avatar NFT up until now.
And they've been around for two years.
So they built a game.
They dropped a playable free NFT.
It's like a cart.
You know, they have like a Kitty Kart game.
It's like Mario Kart, but the Kitty.
Is it as stressful?
Well, apparently Mario Kart is the number one most stressful game of all video games.
Honest?
I'm not going to be honest with you.
When I played it, I was a little stressed.
But here's the thing is like, I play Call of Duty.
You know what I mean?
And I'm prepared to go to war while playing Warzone.
But yet with Kitty, I can't stay on the damn track.
So I'm never told Anna that.
Well, you put up invisible walls.
You shouldn't have that.
I can't find those invisible walls.
Well, they're around the track now, so you cannot fall off.
There's bars for bad players.
It would make people like you now.
If I'm being honest, right?
Like, I can't hit my shots.
Like, we're supposed to shoot these things.
I can't hit them.
But I could no scope in Warzone.
Like, no problem.
But I can't do that.
Anyway, so I just, for me, like, she's a friend.
And she's a friend of, she's an OG in the space.
And she literally knows probably the same, a lot of people that you know.
And I just feel, I just felt like she just sits there and builds.
And, like, not enough people talk about what she does.
And so I just feel like, you know, hey, it's time to, like, Anna, we got to go around.
We got to tell people what the heck you've been doing.
And people know, like, her telegram is dope.
People are very excited.
They have a token, they have partnerships coming up that are crazy stupid that I can't
talk about.
So for me, I just, like, you know, I stopped my daily show.
GIF, I used to have a daily show.
It was dope.
So my daily show was with Wall Street Bets.
And it was called NFT Market Talk.
It was, like, a year ago.
I don't know if you remember.
But we had, like, the dopest fucking show.
Sorry for my, I don't know if we're allowed to cuss here.
But we had the dopest show.
The fucking cussing.
Jesus fucking Christ.
And then it was awesome, right?
Like, we went all the way from, I don't know.
We went all the way from, like, the beginning to freaking Goblin Town.
And then to when the free meta came.
And then Magic Eden, right?
And then Magic Eden was the one that actually started the no royalties.
Or they removed royalties for artists.
They were.
Yeah.
Sorry?
They tried to say that they weren't.
But they are.
They are, right?
Yeah.
They're trying to come back around.
And then we get the blur thing.
So, for me, it's just kind of like a lot has happened to the NFT space.
And it's kind of like blow after blow after blow.
And then we got Luna.
And then we got.
So, like, for me, I think we have a macro problem.
And we also have our own little, you know, micro problem.
So, and I think it's going to take a whole lot more money to come into the space to fix it.
So, I don't think we're quite there yet on a macro level.
But I'm becoming more bullish, you know.
And, you know, people are still surviving and building as we speak.
And so, I'm just supporting artists and supporting quality people that I can find in this space.
That's basically what I've been doing.
You're talking to a room full of survivors.
These are literally the people who have survived the bear here.
So, yeah.
I mean, you're preaching to the choir on that one.
And, like, Marty, I quit NFTs, like, 12 times.
What's the.
So, you mentioned Wall Street bets.
What's.
Do you have, like, a brief update on what they're doing?
Because, like, yeah.
I do remember they kind of hopped on the train and were active in the space for a little bit.
But haven't seen them.
Did they kind of decide to, like, we're not going to do Web3 for a while.
But they're probably going to show up again.
Yeah.
They've been quiet.
I was with them on the NFT side, right?
So, we did NFT spaces with them.
Like, NFT market talk.
But they've completely pulled back, as far as I know.
So, maybe they're waiting for the next run.
Also, he's kind of political.
Let's be honest.
He's a political guy, too.
All right.
Interesting.
All right.
So, I'm over here looking at the collective with a K.
Two Ks.
Collective.9verse.org.
So, again, this is all fresh and new to me.
So, apologies if I'm asking any stupid questions.
This is how we start to learn about what's going on, though.
So, it looks like Nineverse is the studio.
So, that's, like, the group or the company that's producing all of this.
Basically, like, the Larva Labs, if we want to go there.
Is that accurate?
Anna?
Yes.
I was going to say, like, Anna, you want to start talking about it?
Yeah.
I'm the CEO of Nineverse.
So, that's our studio.
And we're the ones that are – so, we own the Kitty Inu IP.
So, the setup of our projects is actually very similar to, like, the Yuga Labs, Ape Coin
Dow, Board Ape Yacht Club, and other side with, like, Kitty Cart.
And then we have Collective as our board apes.
Then we have the Ape Coin Dow.
It's Kitty Inu Dow.
And then we have Nineverse, like, a Yuga.
That's all, like, regulatory.
We're United States-based.
And so, that's kind of the structure and general overview.
And that actually gets, like, kind of a sense of, too, like, what these things are.
Like, the Dow is used as, like, for our applications.
We use the governance token as kind of, like, an in-game currency.
And then they also use that to vote with – they have their own treasury.
And we had been working on – we launched way back in 21.
We had been working on this Avatar series.
And these are, like, 3D-rigged models.
If you know what that is, it's, like, a 3D model.
And it has, like, a skeletal structure in it.
So, you can actually map animations onto it.
Why not?
Artifact is an example of one.
And so is a kid called Beast.
So, we had been working on those for almost two years now.
And we just finally put them out.
That's what the collective is.
It's a PFP Avatar collection.
And, yeah, that's – we've based all the art a lot.
Like, over the years that we've been working on it, we were able to kind of get to know the community.
So, we had a pretty – we have a fairly large community, as it is, just from the gaming side of things.
Because we have the game, which is, like, playable.
And a lot of communities use it for tournaments and whatnot.
So, we kind of have a big amalgamation of different communities within our Discord.
And then we also had, like, the DAO group.
And so, we were able to get to know a lot of people.
And a lot of, like, the traits and stuff reflect them.
And the whole, like, theme of it is, like, a piece of a larger puzzle.
A little bit about me.
Sorry if I'm going too fast.
I'm probably the only person in Web3 that left AI to come to Web3.
Let's go.
Did you see Ryan Carson on the way out?
Yeah.
I did this two years ago.
You might be the only person now, but give it a couple months.
And you're going to see a lot of those people from AI probably start to come back in.
But, I mean, that's great.
It's like open AI.
Yeah, you're zigging when everybody else is zagging and not abandoning us for greener pastures.
Because things turn a little dark here.
So, no, I appreciate that.
I still think Web3.
I really, I've been in, like, crypto since I was in high school.
I got my first Bitcoins back then.
And I've been following it because I really believed in, like, decentralized finance.
And I was, like, a super nerdy, like, libertarian person back then.
But I've always, like, been interested in the space.
So, I actually went to Michigan.
And I have a master's in computational and chemical physics, which is, like, the study of chemistry and physics, like, intersection.
And you do a lot of computational modeling.
That's crazy.
I have the same degree.
You do?
That's absolutely wild.
Wait, I love me the other time.
Actually, my master's is in entertainment industry management.
So, not nearly as impressive.
But it is from a good engineering school, Carnegie Mellon.
So, I mean, that's, you know.
I almost went there.
I love school.
Yeah.
Not nearly as impressive as what you just said, though.
All those big words put together.
I mean, I was learning, kind of.
I had to learn in the entertainment space.
So, when I.
Because I went to pharma right after, like, grad school.
And then I left pharma.
So, I was doing, like, ML, PKPD modeling.
Those boring things.
Machine learning.
Yeah.
Boring stuff.
And then I saw, kind of, NFTs, kind of, popping off.
And I was, at the time, co-founding another, like, guild, like, a DAO around AI and film.
That's Culture DAO.
And they were doing a lot with AI characters.
And I loved, like, seeing the NFT movement and, like, the digital rights movement with artists.
And finally paying royalties.
I thought that was so unique.
And, like, I finally gave a use case to, like, blockchain technology outside of finance in a way.
I mean, it still is financial, but it has a more, like, social purpose is what I saw.
Yeah.
I definitely want to get a little bit more into, like, the DAO part of this and how you use that and, you know, how effective you feel like that is.
But really quickly, you mentioned that you are a libertarian nerd, I think you said.
Not my words.
Yeah.
Nerdy libertarian or something like that.
I'm curious, as a nerdy libertarian, if you have any thoughts about the Argentinian presidential election.
I do not.
Have any thoughts.
I don't speak politics.
I've learned my lesson.
I'm not going to do it.
All right.
Probably smart.
You never know who's listening.
Yeah.
Anyway.
All right.
Q, go ahead.
Yeah.
I'd love to pulse out of that one.
Great answer, by the way, Anna.
Whenever we roll across or come across, you know, a founder building a cool project or a project that actually has some complexity to it,
we always talk about this chasm that you can find yourself in if you essentially make the project too complex for new folks to get in.
So you've got KittyCartRacing, you've got KittyInuDAO, you've got all of these different things.
You've got an ERC20 token, basically a fungible token with an NFT on its way now in public mint.
Like, how do you think about keeping things simple even though you're trying to build a complex project?
So actually, that was kind of the fundamental basis of our project was making blockchain simple.
I thought that the most, like, the way that you could get masses interested in understanding NFTs and digital currencies, like, in a familiar context was within a video game.
We're all very used to using currencies within a video game.
We're all used to assets within a video game.
So that's kind of the rationale for why we went gaming first.
So Nineverse is a transmedia company, that means our goal is to take IP, we create IP, and we put it into as many mediums of technology as possible.
And we focus on emerging technology, such as Web3 or AI.
Right now, our main focus is Web3.
And that's kind of, so we try to make it simple.
So the tokenomics of our ERC-20, it's very easy.
It was just like, you know, we put it in a DEX pool, then we had a DAO treasury, and people were able to get it.
And there's voting, they can vote on different initiatives.
And the reason we started with a DAO first versus, you know, because we are an IP project, so typically you would go with NFTs first, or that had been the move back in 21.
I saw that as kind of capping your growth.
I think a fungible IP project starting as your primary, like, core community, and then, like, leveling up into the more, like, exclusive or non-fungible assets made a lot more sense to me in kind of how we do, like, brand loyalty programs.
So that is why I think right now we've kind of introduced a lot of people to the DAO.
I think it's a very simple thing to get involved in, and then people in our DAO are now offered these NFTs.
They can go mint them, and they can own a piece of the IP we are doing, kind of similar to the Bored Ape IP model with, and Pudgy with, like, you know, we can license for.
Shared IP, distributed IP.
Yeah, like the central IP.
So it's actually really interesting, because that is one of the things I was going to ask about.
It does seem like you're kind of doing, your approach is different than I think a lot of NFT projects, whereas, you know, they start with the IP, or they start with the NFT part of it, and then maybe they'll reverse the DAO.
I was getting a call.
Let me turn on Do Not Disturb.
I hate when that happens.
But no, so, like, a lot of times NFT projects will start with NFTs, and then out of that, they'll, you know, they'll build out the rest of the DAO and the fungible tokens and all that type of stuff.
But you're basically doing this inverted from how a lot of people are doing it, and you said you think that that actually makes more sense.
Can you just explain a little bit more about that strategy?
Like, why do you feel like this is a superior strategy for Web3, an IP building?
Well, I mean, I think we've seen what happens when you don't have, like, something as your base as being fungible or, like, accessible to a lot of people.
Like, you have kind of a capped growth.
Azuki tried to scale out and mint more Azukis to get more people in, in, like, part of their community, and, like, they faced a lot of backlash from, like, their primary thing.
And, like, your allegiance really should be your primary, like, what you put out first.
And so you want to keep those people happy, but diluting them is not great.
So if you start with something that, you know, you can buy, like, $5 worth, and then you join, or you could buy $30,000 worth when you join,
then you're not necessarily ever capping that growth at your base, like, level.
And then you can also, like, as you grow and as, like, people get wanting to get more involved, they can go up to the more exclusive assets.
So I think it should be accessible at the bottom just for entry.
And then you level up into, like, the exclusivity part.
And for us, that's worked pretty well.
It's kind of like building the funnel from top to bottom instead of from bottom to top, which is what, like, literally what you're seeing founders like Lucanets, OniForce, Star Lordy Triton do, right?
Is, like, they started with the bottom funnel, which is that most exclusive sort of core item, and now they're trying to reverse engineer to the top funnel.
But you're saying, no, let's start with, like, the widest, most accessible touchpoints, whatever, for our IP.
Make the easier parts of this funnel, at least from a Web3 crypto component.
Again, like, you know, that funnel can extend even more to, you know, maybe other Web2, Web 2.5 products and awareness and things like that.
And the game might even do some of that.
But, yeah, that actually does make a lot of sense.
Yeah, I mean, like, if you look at luxury brands, too, like, I like to look at Hermes.
That's a good example.
So imagine if Hermes just kind of dropped those, like, Birkins, like, and nobody, like, those weren't even popular for, like, until, like, Sex and the City in the early 2000s.
They came out in, like, the 80s.
But Hermes had had, like, a luxury leather brand for, like, in horse-drawn carriages for years.
Like, they were accessible to the general public.
And then they came out with their, like, exclusive luxury bag.
Did you just say horse-drawn carriages?
Yeah, like, Hermes has been around for a very long time.
Amazing.
Amazing technology, horse-drawn carriages, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
But they were, like, a very old, like, luxury leather company.
And so they have, like, a kind of a more, like, you know, generally.
So my pug is next to me snoring.
I don't know if you guys can hear him.
But they have to hear him.
Oh, we hear him.
His name is Marvin.
But, yeah, they had, like, more, like, a wide-scale consumer base.
And then they kind of went into luxury.
And then they used kind of media to get that to be more, like, desirable.
But I don't really know a lot of brands that come out, like, outwardly yet with, like, their core offering was luxury and exclusivity.
And then they, like, because I just think that that's kind of, like, a way to, like, kill your business.
And also it just doesn't make a ton of sense, like, for.
Well, I think one of the hardest parts about it, to your point, is that it, like, how, it's very difficult to keep those original sort of luxury exclusive core audience members happy as you try and expand to a bunch more people.
Right?
Like, that's just a massive challenge that we see founders constantly dealing with in the space as they work to try and figure out what is the sustainable business model.
So, actually, no, I like this.
This is really smart.
And, all right, so, you know, we have maybe, like, 10 minutes left on this.
So, I want to make sure we cover all the things that you want to try and hit here and get us as much information as possible.
So, you started with Nineverse, or you have this studio, Nineverse is the company.
You've been building out this IP called Kitty Inu.
So, that's the IP, your Transmeta IP that you've been working to build.
And it sounds like then you actually started with a token, a DAO, and a game.
I don't know if that's maybe not in that order.
But you developed out those more sort of accessible touch points, the fungible aspects, the governance, and an actual product with a game.
It would be awesome to actually see what that looks like.
So, I'm looking for that.
But if y'all can pin something, it would be cool to see with the game.
Yeah, we can try and find it.
But, yeah, if you can pin it, that'd be helpful.
But I'll try and find it, too.
But so, you kind of started with the product already.
And now, you're shifting to actually drop a PFP NFT, which they're all rigged.
So, they are actual avatars.
A lot of times, people use the term avatar a little bit loosely.
But when it's being used very specifically, that usually means that there are 3D models that are, like, quote-unquote, metaverse-ready.
Or just means that you can actually do a lot with them in sort of different 3D environments, virtual worlds, quote-unquote, metaverses, games, etc.
So, yeah, I mean, just using that as, like, a setup, please add in all the things that we're missing.
Yeah, so, I mean, that pretty much is, you got it right there.
So, the NFT drop is, they are the 3D rigged models.
They are going to be playable in the kitty car game.
With the kitty E new IP, we've also partnered with a couple.
So, she has a transmedia IP.
So, we're trying to get, like, our goal is to get this IP everywhere.
So, we actually partnered with Pixels.
They have a custom kitty in the game you can use for your DAW member.
We have Nifty Island.
We're working with them.
They have a couple of kitties in the game.
I'm hoping maybe they do a full avatar collection.
But right now, DAW members can access a couple different kitties to play with in their game if they have the tokens.
And then we have one with Captain and Company as well.
So, it's not just kitty cart that's building on this ecosystem.
We've kind of worked with other games, too.
And with the avatars themselves, that is more around, like, do you want to own your own custom kitty?
Do you want to have this IP and own a piece of the IP?
And then this is also, like, a digital identity offering.
So, like, use it as your profile picture.
And we're working through, like, we have a couple of partnerships I can't really talk about right now.
But those will come out soon.
But, yeah, that's kind of the main thing is we're trying to build something that, I think, with Kitty Inu, it sounds like a silly name.
We get a lot of questions like, are you guys a shit guy?
But the answer is no.
So, actually, originally, our artist, our creative director, he was the original artist behind Shiba Inu.
He also was the person that does the Free Hugs campaign.
If you guys know what that was in the early 2000s, that was him.
And he, like, we wanted to kind of pay homage to kind of the Mimi, something that kind of really embodied Web3, what we felt like was, you know, like, emblematic of it or, like, a symbolic.
And I think that putting out something, too, with, like, this kawaii-style artwork, if you guys know, like, the biggest IP brands are probably Hello Kitty and Pokemon.
Those are both kawaii-styled art.
So, they have global appeal.
And that's kind of what I also think is missing a lot of times in Web3, or I think Web3, in general, has a demographic skew towards gender and towards age.
And so, a lot of things that get produced here, like, it's not, like, a microscope of, like, the larger mass market of how that would be received.
And so, we looked into it a lot in finding things.
I know a girl brand doesn't really make a ton of sense.
It's kind of girly.
But we think, like, this is, you know, globally this will be received well because the consumer market is mostly dominated female.
It's definitely a long-term strategy, right?
It feels like you're definitely trying to set this up and build something very long-term.
Okay.
A couple quick thoughts.
Before Giff asks this question, are you with a cat right now, Anna?
No, that's her secretary.
That's my dog.
He's kind of a cat, though.
She has a sleepy secretary over there.
Yeah.
Well, look, obviously, you're very intelligent.
This is a great convo.
So, I'm really enjoying it.
And it's great to just get to know you a little bit better and hear about all the work.
Because clearly, this is very well thought out.
You're very articulate and intelligent.
And I can tell, again, just by the way that you're talking about it, setting all this up and thinking about the IP,
that this is not some kind of short-term pump and dump, anything like that, right?
Like, this is clearly something that you're really trying to develop into a long-term brand and IP.
So, that's really cool.
I'm actually, you know, I just shared a little bit of, like, what is the, what do they look like a little bit more, too, right?
It's just, like, getting to know, like, how do you express the IP in different ways.
And so, it's cool to see that.
So, yeah.
Mo had her hand raised, though.
I want to get Mo in here.
I did, but I was going to ask about the artist, and she answered that.
So, I personally love the cat.
I want one.
It was so badly.
Yeah.
I actually designed a couple of the cats, so I was learning, like, Blender.
I didn't know Blender before, but I thought, becoming, like, a CEO of a creative tech studio, I'm like, I have to do this.
So, I got to get some of my art on this collection, which was really fun and cool.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So, I just gave, I just followed the kitty, you know, as well, because, again, it doesn't seem like a really interesting thing you're building here.
So, tell us the specifics.
I do want to, you know, kind of wind down this portion of the show, let you all go on the rest of your day.
So, tell us the specifics about the Mint, all the logistics, like, the call to action.
Like, what are the things that people know if they want to learn more, if they want to get in and check out this Mint?
What does it take to get in on this project?
Yeah, so, the Mint closes on Thursday at 5 p.m. Eastern.
There are, I think there's 620 that have been minted so far.
There's a max cap at 3,100, but it will close at 5 p.m. on Thursday, no matter what.
And that's just kind of the collection size.
And then, once you have the avatar, I would recommend joining our Discord, as well as we have a Telegram, if we weren't into Telegrams.
And the reveal will be a couple weeks later.
Then we have the new release of the game will come out after that.
You can play with the avatars in there, and then we have some other stuff coming out.
If you want to get in, just go to the website, collective.9burst.org.
Right now, they're 0.06 ETH.
You can mint one.
You can mint up to 10 in one transaction.
That's kind of a cap.
And that's pretty much it, I think.
0.06.
Yeah, it's not too bad for a really legit project.
How big is your team?
At 9burst, we have, there's 20 people at 9burst, and the DAO has their own team.
And that's like a committee of like 10, 5 people, and then there's a media team that works there.
So, I don't know.
I would say that if you combine the DAO and 9burst, it's like probably like 40 people.
But can you brag about like Sunil?
Oh, yeah.
So, Sunil is our newest addition.
He was the former director of business development at Uber.
He just joined.
Oh, shit.
This is, yeah, this is a legit business y'all are building.
That's fucking cool.
So, I'm guessing like, so are you VC backed in any way, or is like the Kitty Inu token basically funding all this?
9burst is privately funded.
We have not announced our raise stuff, so, but that's going to come out later.
So, but we've been here for two years.
Kitty Inu DAO has their own treasury, and they fund their own initiatives with grant proposals.
And you can go in the Discord and see all like the proposals and the snapshots and whatnot.
There's actually a couple different things that they funded, like the media with Jonah and Huntel, the 9 live show that's produced in Web3 Gaming on Tuesdays.
That's actually a DAO-produced show.
They have a grant for that.
There's another app that came out.
It's called Kitty's RS.
It's an airdrop program where you can sign up and earn Kitty for social engagement.
That's developed by the DAO engineers.
And so, they have their own thing.
The idea of the DAO, though, is really around, I don't know if you guys have heard of like the concept of IP as a platform.
But it's kind of like the transformation of IP from being a product that people kind of spectate into like a platform that people could create on.
And so, the DAO is really focused on like doing things that are like, how do we create with the IP?
And they have a lot of the avatars for gifting.
Like they have a significant amount of them in their treasury.
Anna, how large is the treasury and how is it funded?
It was funded with the token.
So, I think it started out as like 38% of the supply went to treasury and then 62% went to public sale two years ago.
And then that's how it got funded.
And how large is that today?
I think we have like $1.2 million.
Depends on the token price.
Yeah, nice.
Very cool.
Well, it's been awesome to have you here as a special guest today and learn more about it.
But I'm going to be looking at this and seeing if I want to get into it, honestly.
Because this is, you've impressed me as a really legit builder.
And again, it's clear that this is a legitimate business.
Not just some, you know, crazy project out of nowhere.
But I also, I think the thing that impressed me the most is the way that you kind of thought through this strategy.
And are actually kind of doing it opposite how most projects do.
Which I actually do think is very smart to have that foresight.
Yeah.
So, anyway.
Y'all, give her some love.
Check them out.
You can find some more info pinned up top from Kitty Inu.
They are mincing until Thursday.
And then the supply is locked forever.
I'm actually doing a similar-ish thing with my coffins.
It's where it's an open-gen collection and it mince until 12, 13 and then it's closed forever.
So, I'm a fan of this model myself.
Kind of giving the community a little bit of a collaborative power there to determine what the total supply is.
But you said it's capped no matter what at like 3,000, right?
Yeah, because I look at that money.
Yeah.
Well, that's the difference, I guess.
Coffins is uncapped.
But this is capped at 3,000 if you want to get in on it.
But it will end on Thursday.
0.06 collected by Kitty Inu.
All right.
Appreciate y'all coming through.
Let's definitely stay in touch and maybe we can do some other things.
AJ, thanks for coming through, man.
Anything you want to throw in here before we kind of move on?
No, I'm definitely coming back no matter what.
This was a great, great time.
Everyone here is wonderful.
So, thank you so much for your time and you're very gracious.
So, thank you, man.
Right on, bro.
Appreciate that.
Yeah, of course.
Give them some love.
Check them out.
Very cool project that I honestly didn't know anything about.
So, that was pretty cool.
Great to learn more.
And all right, ladies and degenerates, we're going to keep it going here.
Hit as many of these headlines and news things as we can in the last few minutes.
Also, maybe we'll get a Blue Moon and or a Jua sighting.
Maybe we'll get a Cake Nygaard sighting.
I don't know.
We'll see how it goes.
But we'll be in here a few more minutes.
And then, if you don't know, fam, if you don't know what this is, this is GMWeb3.
We do this show four days a week, Monday through Thursday, usually.
It's Thanksgiving week, so we're actually taking tomorrow and Thursday off this week.
But normally, Monday through Thursday, we're here on the X Spaces.
And then, we jump straight over to YouTube where we keep the show running with more awesome
interviews, alpha, conversations, co-hosts, all the things.
Usually, there's a bunch of headlines and things that we don't get to on this show.
So, we keep all that going over on our Tentpole Live YouTube show, the longest running show
in all of Web3.
Yeah, I'm going to own that because I think it's true.
NFT Live, that is the show on YouTube where we will be jumping out to after this one.
Hopefully, you'll join us over there as well for the last NFT Live of the week.
But yeah, Q, speak on that real quick.
We're up to almost 400 episodes.
That show started in, what, 2009, 2020?
2020.
I wouldn't say Web3 just because I feel like that could be co-opted or that umbrella reaches
very far.
So, there's probably a lot of people in crypto that would say, hey, what the hell are you
talking about?
But yeah, definitely one of the longest shows, if not the longest in NFTs.
Those were fun to do back in the day with Ronan.
There's a long and winding journey of that show.
We've had a lot of really cool guests that have come and gone from the NFT space on it.
It's been a fun time.
Hell yeah.
Getting close.
We should do something special for episode 400 over there.
But we did celebrate episode 300 here on GM Web3 yesterday.
That was a fantastic show.
Shout out to everybody who came out for that.
If you want to check out the recording, you can.
Of course, those are here on X, recorded.
We had Cheryl Lazar.
We had Star Lordy and Cake Nygaard himself, all special guests yesterday to celebrate that.
Again, two of the longest running shows in all of the NFTs and Web3 on this one awesome
community-driven platform that we call the Web3 Network.
And all right, we did the thing.
We talked about the thing.
If you haven't shared out the room, go ahead and do that.
We'll be in here a few more minutes.
Shout out to all the awesome people in here.
I can't believe Andy James is here.
It's great to see Andy hanging out with us.
But shout out to you all.
All right.
Let's get into more of these headlines and updates, Q.
Let's hit as many as we possibly can.
I don't really want to talk more about Blast and Blur right now because I'm sure we're
going to have to talk about that over on NFT Live.
But yeah, what else are you itching to talk about right now?
Because there's a bunch of stuff going on.
I think the overall effect of the Blur airdrop was interesting.
I tried to coax it out of everybody on stage trying to see like, hey, put your foot in the
sand, put your stake in the sand here on where you think it's going to land.
But I don't think anyone could have predicted the Layer 2 release here.
I thought it was going to be some type of incentive-based thing for Blur or for Blend into Season 3.
But I had no idea they were going to make this move.
Yeah, I'm with you on not focusing on Blast too much.
I think we've kind of covered that.
It's really just a way to lock up funds and make sure that the Blur token doesn't see this
massive sell-off as we kind of move into Season 3 and they don't want that sell-off there
on the token.
So yeah, man, I just thought it was interesting.
Blur, this airdrop was one of the most anticipated in Web3 for the longest time or NFTs for the
longest time.
And it seems to be going well for Paradigm.
They understand how to move this market.
And yeah, it doesn't seem to be going well for the blue chip NFT project.
I think Bored Ape's like 25, 26 ETH at this point.
So we'll see where we go from there.
That's the thing that I keep feeling.
And I know like Marty's going to FUD me and be like, oh, you're just mad at a marketplace.
It just seems like everything they're doing is good for Paradigm and not that great for
the space.
It seems like they're the only ones that are really winning.
Like, yeah, sure, there's a few people that are farming and doing pretty well.
I do see that.
But I think a lot of the farmers are more in Machi's camp who either broke even or didn't
do that well, may have actually lost money farming.
And obviously, the NFT space, in my opinion, has been actually damaged by a lot of the incentives.
So anyway, all right.
Again, I don't want to spend too much time on this.
Again, we're going to get into on NFT Live.
I just feel like Paradigm is the one that is benefiting off of all this.
And I don't feel like NFTs in the space is actually benefiting as much as a lot of people
would try and lead you to believe.
I think you're right on that.
I think it's not maybe recency bias is saying that they're doing extremely well.
They are understanding how to get people into the applications.
And that is a form of success.
But I think I'm maybe leaning more towards your thought process on this as we go forward.
The one thing I will say, I've been an extremely big proponent of gaming on these shows and
on NFT Live and pieces like that.
What this is showing, I feel like, with Frentech, with what Paradigm's been able to do over on
Blur and now Blast, is this space is great at concentrating liquidity and concentrating users
very, very quickly faster than any other type and form of protocol or platform or application.
I just think that gaming is that thing that's going to be sticky.
You know, because that's the question.
Yeah, it's an actual product.
Yeah, you're getting people there.
But how do we get them to stay?
Well, it's like, make a fucking cool game and add these mechanics that you're seeing
across the board in Web3.
And I think that that is the answer.
I know that's kind of regurgitating what we've said.
But when these things happen, like Frentech, and we can jump into that quickly if you want.
But yeah, Frentech's seeing massive capitulation right now from people that, you know, weren't
using the app, maybe for the quote unquote right reasons.
Maybe briefly, well, quote unquote right reasons.
I mean, who's to judge what the right reasons are?
I think that's an interesting statement on its face.
But maybe let's briefly, briefly, briefly.
Again, this is something I do not want to spend a lot of time on.
But let's try and hit, like, what is the high level update on what's going on with SocialFi?
Like, I haven't even checked in on TagTech.
It didn't seem like TagTech, which is Machi's SocialFi competitor, was getting that much momentum.
We saw the shit show that was Starz Arena.
I don't know.
I haven't checked in on Bitcoin, New Bitcoin City, but I haven't heard as much talk about
that over the last week or two anecdotally.
And then Frentech, all of that liquidity seems to be moving away.
So, yeah, high level thoughts on what's going on with SocialFi.
Are we just in sort of like a hard moment and everybody's got to sort of pivot and figure
out how do they keep innovating and then it'll come back?
Or are all of these apps just not actually sophisticated and interesting enough to maintain
any attention and they're sort of like the first ones over the wall, you know, out of
the trash?
Okay, let me try to encapsulate this super quick.
I think you are right on your last thought there.
Like the legitimacy of these apps when it comes to getting people to actually stay and like
the products they have are bad and it's just about the liquidity.
So I think like very high level, it's that.
I will say there's been an announcement with TagTech that you're going to love.
It's turning in or they're at least like leaning into dating apps, gifts.
So you can now date, socialify.
Why did I buy Dingling's ITO?
I'm not trying to date this man.
What is going on?
Hold on real quick, cutie.
Cutie, let me finish this thought real quick and then you can go, man.
Because I don't want to have the front tech talk.
I know GIF wants to move on.
It's just people that are using this for the right reason, people that are using it for
the right quote unquote right reasons GIF.
It's just like the people that are there using the product, right?
Connecting with individuals, trying to, you know, have those kind of token gated rooms.
That's what I'm talking about.
Those people are still there.
I'm still there.
There's a handful of folks.
And to be honest, most of them are down.
If you're playing the, you know, kind of Ponzi game or kind of a game of chicken with a 3-3
there.
But yeah, I think there's a ton of people still there.
There's just a lot of people that are wrecked.
This is your I'm not fucking leaving moment over there on front tech.
I feel it.
And hopefully that does work out and they figure out a way out of this spot.
All right.
NFT cutie, go ahead.
What's up?
Yeah, so I disagree with NFTQ here because I agree to just one point that these can be
liquidity drainers because all they do is launch a project.
But what I love about them is they are not controlled by Web2 brands like Play Store.
These are client-based applications just installed on your client, right?
And browser-based applications.
Also, apps like Stars Arena and this friend tech.
This is a new tech and what we call it.
It's all Web3 and decentralized as well as I saw that.
Let me just check it out for you.
So, this is the Twitter of Web3 and it's Chat3.
And they work on the MNT blockchain.
And this is pretty sick.
People are doing Twitter spaces there and they're not using Twitter.
The OG people of Nifty.
And one Twitter profile is Lunacy.
I think they are some kind of founders.
And you will just love it.
And this is quite chat.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Share that.
We'll check it out.
And I haven't heard of it.
So, my whole point was, these are not controlled by any of the apps on Play Store.
And these are client applications installed.
And they ask us to pin it on the homepage or wherever you can.
But these are full.
Got it.
I'm confused about the argument there.
I will give that CZ just resigned as Binance CEO.
But I know Andy wants to get in here as well.
Yeah.
We got to get Andy in here.
Ladies and gentlemen, throw up some love, some hearts, some emojis.
One of our favorite people is back.
An alumni of this here show.
Alumnus, Andy Jank.
Can we play a soundboard?
Play a soundboard for my man.
Do we have...
What's the right soundboard for Andy Jank?
No, that's not it.
Sorry.
Sorry.
That's not...
John Cena.
Got to be John Cena.
Oh, wait.
I don't even know where that one is.
Yeah.
You're right.
Shit.
Andy's just like, let him come back.
He literally left.
He literally left.
Nah, he's rugging.
He's trying to get back up here.
After that, excellent intro.
I just printed the top chat three for you.
And it's pretty sick.
They have...
I just checked their profiles.
And luckily, it's SocialFi as well.
Kimi, we have no money left.
We all got rugged by the other SocialFi apps.
We have no money to go into chat three.
We're done.
We might not be having money, but they are innovating.
All right.
I love it.
Well, I hadn't heard of it.
So we'll definitely check out more of that.
Thank you for sharing.
Andy James, are you there?
Hold on.
I am there.
And his name is John Cena!
Now you may speak.
It's the best walkout song.
Just period.
What's up, fam?
How's everybody doing?
We're just trying to hype you up.
Ice.
So that whatever you have to share cannot possibly live up to the expectations that we've set.
I mean, I don't have anything too crazy.
I think the Kraken suit is kind of interesting, especially for the Paradigm people.
Because they're trying to move into the DeFi space pretty aggressively.
So I don't know.
I kind of agree with GIF or with Q.
There needs to be some actual platform-based functions.
And I think we're just getting this rinse and repeat forever of like, it's a dating app
with a token.
It's a frenzy app with a token.
It's like, sick.
That's not...
It's interesting, first of all, seeing you agree with Nifty Q on anything.
I'll throw that out there.
Listen, Q often has a lot of interesting and intelligent things to say.
I just, you know, half the time, I just disagree with Q just to rile him up.
Thank you, Andy.
All right.
You're the smartest person up here, dude.
All right.
Wow.
Get a freaking room.
I feel like you're trying to make amends here or something.
I don't know what's going on.
This is weird.
I don't know that I like it when you're actually both on the same page.
But there's something here that reminds me of like the Frank DeGaude's situation of what
we saw where it was like a whole lot of hype and sort of using the hype.
As the marketing.
And then there wasn't much substance at the end of the day.
So it was like, you're going to fucking...
Like, your butthole is going to fucking explode.
Your brain's never going to be the same when you see like this awesome thing.
And then it's like, we're moving to a new chain.
And it was just like always keeping people hyped up about not really anything at all.
There was no product.
And, you know, we see now they're kind of struggling a little bit.
I mean, the truth of like good adoption is the problem with like the example you just
gave, which is correct, is if the founders are the people driving the hype, there isn't
actually adoption.
Like, if you look at, if you look at any of the, if you look at any of the really successful
startups, I'm like, I don't, I don't want to devolve this into an open AI conversation,
but like people were into ChatGPT because it was a good product.
Like they weren't into Sam Altman in 2018.
Like Sam Altman's been on the scene for 10 years and he wasn't like the dude, the consumer
market decided he was the dude.
And then a bunch of money followed.
They had gotten a bunch of money.
He is him.
Because the tech was there and like smart people knew it was there.
But I think it's just like this round robin of the space is current critical mass is a
group of people that are like after Frank to God's like, that's so sick.
And then like, it's people trying to sell you on something, but like all the platforms
that are currently in existence are there because a critical mass went there first, like
because the product was fun and interesting to use.
And I think we're in Q talks about gaming.
I think that's one example.
I don't think that's the Holy grail of examples, but like it gaming has the same ability to
capture a group of people and have them keep playing.
Like people are still playing Mario Kart to the example that you were talking about earlier
because it's good, because it's an interesting concept.
It's simple.
And a lot of people can play.
And I think that like the problem with the friend tech stuff is they have to use a mousetrap
of money to drive adoption.
It's not organic.
Like, oh, this is sick.
I'm going to keep doing it and tell my friends.
And so like the challenge is if you're going to be a consumer UX experience, it has to be
driven by the consumer for adoption.
And if you have to use revenue generating friendships as the like bait, it will never
succeed because that's not the predication of sound relationships.
Like if you study implicit versus explicit thinking and like memory and emotion, people
gravitate towards long term decisions when they're emotionally rewarded for actual positive
relationships.
That's why Facebook takes off.
That's why Instagram takes off.
That's why TikTok takes off, because it's an actual connection between people.
And the driving factor isn't how can I tithe you for being my friend.
It's interesting.
I will say like friend tech would be an example if they tweaked it right of what Twitter is
doing.
Right.
You can you can add a financial aspect.
Of course, the product is there first.
Like that you use the AI example, like everything but crypto is product first.
And that's why people like flood into it, use it.
And then maybe you can add crypto has always worked the exact opposite.
And to be fair, like and this is might be our like fundamental disagreement.
It's like I think probably that we're always going to be in some type of way, that type of
process for crypto.
And then it may be at least in the short term five year until regulation, because I agree
with you at a baseline.
And I think the difference in reality is that until there's a strong consumer protection
boundary around how it functions, the core group of people are going to be based on revenue
generating non-intelligent swings in the market.
And I don't mean non-intelligent as like the people are not intelligent.
But like, you know, I can look at, you know, a certain set of stocks that produce, you
know, weapons in a month ago, be like, that's a good buy, because there's a there's a fundamental
backing of business in in cause and reaction in a marketplace that I know that something
will happen, not because I'm super intelligent, but because it's normal.
It's natural.
It's because you're a warmonger.
The challenge is, well, this space on the warmonger example, this space currently before
there's consumer regulation, where there's a way to operate and build outside of the
vacuum of token go up, I can build more things.
As soon as that barrier is crossed, all of a sudden you'll get a lot more inclusion, because
every time you have like new Kraken lawsuit, paradigm is next on that list.
Like the the challenge with all these companies trying to build is they're building into like
the unknown in a way that other companies are there.
There was an announcement of an announcement that there would be more SEC actions today.
So it'll be interesting to see if paradigms.
It feels like the rest of the world is moving in the opposite direction.
That's where I push back on the regulation piece.
It feels like they're working more towards having this Web3 space be a little bit more open
and they're not coming in and putting this enforcement before we even know what this thing
is like that's because they're smart.
Well, yeah.
And so I think I think the only thing that I push back on there is like take AI is a perfect
side by side.
Right.
Like there's a whole conversation now about AI regulation.
Right.
And really, it's not AI regulation.
The the actual highbrow conversation is about copyright and IP protection.
Like the real the real conversation about, quote unquote, AI regulation, while there's some
things about access to information and access to computing power, the the general thesis is
about ownership.
And so it's like you when I talk about regulation, you have to break that into two pieces.
The first piece is marketplaces that are operating as an exchange.
And so you see all of the the laws and the lawsuits and the SEC trying to butt in.
Those are about marketplaces.
They're trying to regulate the New York State Stock Exchange, which already exists.
They're just trying to apply or morph a similar set of laws for a new asset that you can trade.
The consumer side is protection around the thing that you buy in the way it affects your
personal ability to sustain a livelihood.
Consumer Protection Act around finance and like the whole balance between accredited investor
and non-accredited investor is the higher the risk reward of the investment that requires
more intelligence, requires more education.
That's the general trot, like regardless of, you know, the conversation about gatekeeping
of high opportunity investments and trying to keep people or the foundation of the law is
so that you don't get scammed.
And right now you have such an imbalance between there's only regulation in the attempt to regulate
marketplaces, but there's not the attempt to really holistically protect consumers from
financial threat.
And so until that barrier is crossed and you create this vehicle like friends frenzy or whatever
the fuck it's called.
Frentic?
When the idea is like make money for friends as the mousetrap because there's a token you can
exchange, I don't think you actually get real people making real connections.
And that's the baseline problem.
90% of it, you're right on Frentic is true.
Yes, I agree with that.
I will say just in general, I think more products will move overseas, more developers move overseas
and that will be the way.
So I just think that that's the way we head.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
This is a great convo, but I want to put a pin in it because we do have G here.
I want to make sure we get a few minutes here to talk with our man.
So this is an interesting convo.
Andy James, at some point you got to come hang out with us on NFT live so we can see you
and Nifty Q go head to head over there.
I would love to.
Fuck yeah, my guy.
Q, pick the topic.
Give me two weeks and we'll both do research and we'll go at it.
Four o'clock at the flagpole, Q.
I'm giving you a 60 second heads up and we're going off the cuff.
That's the way we do it.
Andy's going to go like read a bunch of books and watch a bunch of YouTube videos and prepare
for a debate.
All right.
Anyway, y'all, we do have G here.
We got to talk to my mans.
He's got a big project that's dropping on art blocks.
This is no joke.
This is not a drill.
This is the real freaking deal.
One of our homies, one of our OGs from our community.
It has an art blocks present project that's dropping very soon.
It's freaking amazing.
It's beautiful.
It's called AXO.
And so he's here to give us a quick update on how that's going and make sure that everybody's
aware of this awesome project.
And yeah, he's piping in all the way from fucking Berlin, Germany.
Give it up.
What's up, G.
Yo, yo, yo.
What's up?
What's up?
Well, I'll just segue in to say that I would pay money to see Dick to Q and Andy James go
at it on NFT Live.
So just throwing that out there.
Well, good.
We're going to charge you then for it.
Yeah, please do.
Token gating that episode.
First token gated NFT Live episode.
And what do you have to own to do that?
You got to own an AXO, baby.
You got to own three AXOs, six coffins, and 420 dBs.
And bonk.
Nice.
Nice.
Yeah, cool.
What's up, everyone?
Stoked to be here.
I'm reporting in from the Bright Moments Berlin Gallery at the current moment.
Been working from here today.
Dude, I was going to say, your reverb today is incredible.
Whatever you did.
It's great, great reverb.
It's better.
Better than that.
Yeah.
Oh, you sound majestic.
Booming voice.
That's what I want to hear.
So yeah, yeah, we're getting close.
Less than a week away from the release of AXO on Artblocks, which is pretty exciting.
A little, you know, definitely a little, I wouldn't say nervous, but there's just a little
bit of that nervous excitement energy in the air.
But yeah, it's interesting.
You know, it's interesting what goes into kind of doing a release like this, putting all
the content together, all the socials, you know, like, you know, answering kind of like interview
questions and making videos and stuff.
It's really crazy, like when, you know, like you make the art and that, like, is a whole
bunch of energy that you put into it in one way.
And you're like, oh, cool.
Like, I did that.
And then there's just this whole other tailwind of things to do to just kind of like release
it into the world in a cool way.
So, um, that's what I've been up to for the last week or so, but the, uh, you know, the,
the, the prize is in sight, so to speak.
Um, and it's really exciting.
So I'm just, uh, yeah.
I wanted to pop in and say, hi, what's up, Andy.
I haven't, you know, chatted with you in a while.
Jeff Jag, what's up homies.
Um, Ronan in the house and yeah, just say what's up to the web three crew.
There's a giveaway happening though.
Is that true?
So I think I found part of it.
Blue moon's doing some stuff.
So yeah, can you fill us in on that?
Yeah, for sure.
Blue moon, AKA the meme queen, uh, just ripped a bunch of, uh, memes around AXO.
She's super funny.
She's my partner in life and in crime.
Um, and yeah, so she put a bunch of memes together and has kind of a thread that I think
GIF shared up at the top.
And if you go through and kind of like your favorite memes in the, in the thread, uh, she's
going to be buying an AXO to kind of raffle away to people who have engaged with the favorite
meme in that thread.
Yeah.
So I'm actually scrolling through it now.
There's a, there's, there's a bunch of comments on this.
I'm not seeing the memes though.
There's, there's so many comments.
Where, where memes?
Any, any, any, no images there.
I'm seeing sometimes it hides like replies to certain parts.
Like the, dude, the comments threads are kind of a mess on X.
I'm not, I'm not going to lie.
Um, yeah.
So there should be, she has comments and in those comments, there are, um, like meme images
or whatever.
Oh wait, hold on, hold on.
It might, I might be, uh, okay.
There it is.
I was looking at the, the quoted tweet.
That's why.
So it's, it's, it's on the one where she says I'm buying an AXO for someone who likes the
most liked AXO meme.
I thought she was pointing to the post and so that I was going through that one.
So yes.
Okay.
I see them now.
Uh, okay.
I'm, I'm liking them all.
I want as many access as I can get.
Tell us again, briefly how the drop is actually working because I want to get some.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I got some good news for you, um, GIF and maybe some other friends in the, in the
Web3 Nifty Castle crew.
So Web3 allow list, Web3 network allow list.
Well, I got, I got an intent.art allow list working.
So if you own any of the intent art pieces, um, well, well I should say if you own some of
the OG pieces, if you own a Neo Vita or a dissipation that we released, released with
you guys on, we did a fricking like eight hour Twitter space hosted by the crew, um, for
the dissipation collection, which was super awesome and, and still props to you guys for
doing that for us.
That was just like amazing.
Um, yeah.
If you have any of those pieces, you're allow listed in, then, and you can mint from Friday
through Monday morning, just because it's like Thanksgiving weekend, just to give people
time to do that.
Um, there are 50 spots, uh, available for the intent, uh, holders, um, and you get the
guaranteed bottom price of the Dutch auction.
So the, the Dutch auction is two ETH down to 0.05 ETH and yeah, you can go in and get like
a guaranteed, um, AXO for 0.05 this weekend.
If you hold, uh, a Neo Vita or a dissipation.
Dude, that is actually fucking really exciting.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah.
Cause I know, I know you own some and, and like, like a bunch of the old school crew.
So it was really cool to like be able to do that.
I wasn't even sure that Artblocks could do that, but for the, uh, for the presents projects,
they allow that.
And then we're also doing a partnership with floor app.
Um, so I don't know if you've heard of them, but they allow purchases with credit cards.
on some of these like ETH only drops.
So I have some family and friends that are just, you know, not super crypto friendly,
but they, uh, want to participate.
So we're also doing kind of a, uh, uh, opening for them, like three hours ahead of the drop,
but intent collectors get to go first.
So, um, intent collectors can get in there and you can get like the, the early, um, you
know, like the early axos, like low, low, the low numbers, like two, three, four, five,
six, whatever.
Um, and, uh, intent collectors have first access to that.
And then if you miss that, yeah, if you miss that window, you can also like download the
floor app and compete there.
But I think they're going to be marketing it a little bit.
And, uh, there's going to be 50 spots open to floor, the floor app as well, dude, that's
so fucking cool though.
The fact that there's going to be early allow us to people for the OG intent dot art collectors
and they get in at 0.05.
That's, that's actually really fucking legit.
Uh, yeah, I'm super, that's awesome.
I'm glad you're pumped because I was able to do that.
Yeah.
Well, because you never know, like with the way that art blocks goes, especially when
it's a Dutch auction like that, first of all, you never know how expensive it's going
to be.
And, you know, obviously liquidity is tight for most of us, um, that are the survivors
of this bear.
Uh, but also like sometimes they just sell out and, and like, I would be, I would be very
sad not to get at least one of these.
Um, and that means, you know, maybe I can even get more than one who knows, but, um,
that's really fucking cool, man.
And so for all the OG nifty castle intent dot art web three network fam that, uh, were
in on any of these early intent dot art drops, I mean, that's a fucking hookup right
there.
So totally, totally.
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
You know, and there was, there was, we, you know, the support that we got in those early
days of kind of coming in, not knowing anyone and, you know, people like yourself, like kind
of bringing us into the community and, and, and propping us up, you know, that melt, that
meant the world to us.
So I think it was, um, you know, really targeting some of those early collections, uh, that where
people really just kind of went out on a limb for us.
Um, it's really, it's really cool.
And I'm really stoked to be able to, to be able to, you know, offer something, uh, to you guys,
you know, it's like, when you break into the space, it's hard to like, know, you know,
what your value is, you know, you might go out and you sell, you sell some art or whatever,
but then the bear hits and, you know, the prices of things are crashing.
And then it's like, you hoped to be able to offer your collectors this, that, and the
other, but, um, it may just not really work out that way.
And, um, you know, so it's just like cool to kind of bring it back to those, to those
times.
And now finally I've been, you know, working my ass off the last couple of years and
trying to, um, you know, provide value to my art, to myself as an artist and all of
these things.
And to have this kind of come back around and be able to have a bit of value and share
that is like super cool and important.
Yeah.
Let's fucking go.
All right, y'all, uh, check out the art.
You can pin it.
You can see it pinned up top in the Xbox.
You can also see this giveaway.
If you want to go like some memes on that post from blue moon, maybe that'll get you one.
But again, those OG intent dot art pieces, this is this a PFPs dissipation.
Uh, what was the other ones that you mentioned that are included?
So it's just the Neo Vita and the dissipations.
Um, the dissip PFPs, that's funny you brought that up when we made, we literally made 300
of those things and gave them out all for free on the nifty castle space.
That was the dissipation launch party, which was a fucking like, dude, that was a crazy week.
Me and banner like got barely got any sleep and just created 300 pieces generative collection
for that drop.
Um, so this is a PFPs are not included in the allow list, but, um, you know, the Neo Vita
and dissipation.
Yeah.
Neo Vita and dissipation.
All right.
And when's that snapshot by the way?
So that is going to happen.
Uh, I think Thursday night or Friday morning will be the snapshot.
Um, so there's still an opportunity to grab a couple.
I think, you know, we kind of turned through most of the flippers and I think we do have a
few listed, but they're, uh, I don't know how cheap they are right now.
Uh, but yeah, you can definitely grab, grab a couple of those if you'd like, or one of
those, if you'd like and get, uh, get in the allow list for Friday.
Love it.
Love it.
Love it.
Uh, all right.
Jiwa, since you're here, we got Andy James, we got Anna and Nifty Q, NFT Q to carry Ross
all just hanging out up here.
Uh, what do you, you got any thoughts on all this crazy shit that's been happening?
Are you just heads down working on your launch or are you paying attention to all the other
crazy shit happening in the space?
Anything?
So, I mean, you gotta be a little bit more specific when you say crazy shit happening,
but what are we talking about?
I don't know.
Blur blast AI and any of it, just since you're here, I want to, I want to see if you got anything.
Well, I think like at least to tag on a little bit to the conversation that was being had
before I jumped or like right when I jumped in, um, you know, this like regulation and all
this stuff, you know, I think like we're in a place where dude, all this shit is moving
so fast, you know, the technology itself moves so fast that, you know, for regulation to
keep up with it, it's just becoming, it's going to become like, uh, almost, if it's already
almost impossible, it's just going to become more and more impossible.
New shit is going to come out that breaks all the rules of the regulation, or should I
say, um, kind of can avoid all the rules of the regulation because it's something completely
new.
And I don't know if, you know, I've been having friends that have been talking about,
you know, the impact of regulation on Bitcoin and Ethereum for years.
And, you know, it hasn't really like had that much of an impact in my, in my opinion, you
know, it's like these things have cycles when we're in a bull market and you get a bullish,
any bullish piece of news, you know, number goes up.
Um, and in a bear market, I mean, it's just like a, it's like a slow bleed no matter what
is happening.
So, um, I don't know, it's really, it's really hard to say.
I think that, you know, with a kind of, um, uh, you know, in a global ecosystem, that's
like on the brink in, in many different aspects, you've got this crazy Argentinian president
that just got elected, but all these crazy people, and there's just a lot of uncertainty.
I think people are more and more, um, leaning towards like, like seeing Bitcoin and, and,
and, you know, mostly Bitcoin at this current point, but it's like the gateway drug in, in
being actually a stable, less risk, you know, like, like lower risk asset, which is kind
of fucking crazy.
Um, but you have like, dude, Larry, Larry thinks been out there calling it crypto a fight
to, to quality.
So yeah, they know it, you know, it's really interesting.
And you already have like a lot of the wealthy people in Argent, Argentina moving their money
into Bitcoin because you have this crazy president who says all this crazy stuff now.
And that's like, just really, really interesting to me.
So, you know, I think the Argentinian piece though, it's like, you got to also contextualize,
like they're on the border of, of 10 years of 150% inflation.
Like, of course, like these are, these are countries that have been flocking to, and this
is true actually globally of countries like this, like when Zimbabwe had the $5 billion
bill, like people were flocking to gold.
That was the, there's, there's the same type of like consumer urgency to move their, their
currency out of what isn't working.
And like Argentina is a very developed economic and, and human country that like, you know,
has 46% unemployment with 150% inflation.
It's, you know, I'm not sure that's an indicator.
I think that's more of just like people trying to get out of a bad situation.
Yeah.
I, I totally hear you.
I mean, it's definitely like the, the, the icing on the shitty cake over there, right?
Like the it's, you know, and, and so that, that has been a theme throughout South America
and places like the Philippines and whatever have been using this, you know, Bitcoin and
these type of technologies for a while now, um, because they're more corruption proof.
Um, so, but I just think, you know, having something like that happen that really urges
a lot of like big money to move into it just goes to show that the, uh, view of it being
a less risky asset has been kind of growing over there.
And then when a big catalyst like that happens, you know, boom, all the money moves.
So it's just a crazy world.
Well, in inflation, like the problems that Argentina is seeing, like, obviously they've,
they've been kind of get, they're worse there than a lot of other places, but these are
global problems.
And even the dollar, like everybody now knows is probably going to have to inflate because
like we've got too much debt.
They're gonna have to print a bunch.
So, yeah, that's why, again, Larry Fink, BlackRock CEO is out there calling crypto a
flight to, to quality because there's nowhere to go.
Like the U S dollar is going to be inflated.
Everything is going to be inflating.
Inflation is a global problem.
The way that things were done in the past, uh, you know, like there's a big problem with
And now there's like, like, it's just this big glaring thing where you can, you can have
all these micro arguments this way or the other way.
But, um, the way of the past, you know, there were some problems in, in, in the way we did
things and now we need a new way.
And, you know, crypto just has, has, happens to be that for the financial system.
Yeah.
I love that.
That's a great way to land, uh, to stick the landing.
Y'all, we do have a link for NFT live now pinned up top in the Xbox, go put some love on
Give it a light, give it a repost.
Let us know any other topics or headlines or things that we should be covering over there on
YouTube that we haven't really talked about enough here.
I'm sure there's a lot of things, uh, but yeah, you can see CZ's face up there on the
thumbnail.
That's an interesting headline that we'll definitely be digging into.
He's no longer the CEO of Binance.
That's pretty crazy.
Yeah.
I mean, that's breaking.
Do you, do you think that's a result of, of the, the way the SBF trial landed?
Do you think it's a get out of Dodge?
I think this is, this has happened before, right?
Like Arthur from BitMEX is probably the best example.
Uh, FTX was a fucking shit show of like nuclear capacity.
So BitMEX and Arthur where he had to step down and he's fine now, I think is probably
a good example.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Yeah.
That's an interesting point.
And, um, again, we'll dig more into that over on YouTube here in just a couple minutes.
Um, you know, I'm going to pop over there with you guys for a little bit.
Yes.
Send me a link or how I can join, uh, after the, after the sense.
Yeah, man.
You just tap your shoes together, your high heels together three times and you see, uh,
there's no place like NFT live.
Uh, no Nifty Q.
That was a, that was a horrible fucking joke.
Anyway, I need, I need more caffeine.
You could have abandoned it.
Like I need more caffeine.
No, don't, don't celebrate that.
That was awful.
Don't encourage that.
Um, but yo, we are going to head over there and yes, Q has the links, uh, look out for
DM from him.
Go, go spam him in, in, in the, in the DMS and I'm sure he can get you something.
Yes.
That's awesome to have you joining us over there because we get to actually show off and
look at your artwork.
Look at the axos a little bit better, um, over there on YouTube.
So again, come hang out with us over there.
G will be stopping by that link is pinned up top.
Ronan's coming.
Biggie's coming.
Oh shit.
We got a full stack show.
Andy James says he might even stop by one day.
Yeah.
He's, he's, he's apparently got to do a lot of prep.
He's got to do like SAT and like GRE prep apparently before he's going to come on.
Uh, but Hey, one day I'm excited.
Andy's going to stop by as well.
Uh, quick reminder.
Coffins are minting.
Holy shit.
Uh, it's going really well.
Actually there's 500 and no, sorry, 658 minted.
Now shout out to everybody who's actually gone over and played around with the nifty kit generator.
They are minting for $9 plus gas.
So whenever gas is good over these holidays, uh, hopefully you can play around and create
a cool, uh, coffin or a couple of full, uh, a couple of awesome, cool coffins, pieces
of art.
Um, they're looking great.
Roger Dickerman even has two.
That was really cool.
I discovered as I was just looking through some cool designs, uh, Roger Dickerman actually
generated two coffins and Jordan Lyle's got some V VGF, got some star Lordy nifty Q.
There's just so many absolutely like people that I respect that I look up to in the space.
G was even got some, Holy shit.
There's so many legends that have already been picking up coffins and generating some
awesome coffins art.
It's amazing.
And I hope that y'all will check that out as well.
Um, so yeah, just tremendously grateful and excited for how that's going.
It is open until December 13th and then it closes forever.
So you've got plenty of time to go over and play around with the generator whenever gas
is not awful.
Um, but yeah, coffins are minting.
You can find more about that on my profile and pinned up in the Xbox and, uh, all right,
y'all we're, we, we did it.
We're, we're not going to be back here.
Normally we'd be, we'd be back tomorrow morning, but we are taking Wednesday and Thursday off for
Thanksgiving.
So this is the last show of the week.
Oh, Cam Taylor's got some, by the way, I see you, Cam.
Uh, Jared got some from NFT go creator hood.
Uh, shout out Jared camp Taylor Ronan.
I think got some squash, man, dude.
All y'all easy got like token three and four.
Yo, Carrie Ross got a fucking dope Magamo one.
Anyway, just got one or two.
Anyway.
All right.
Jeff Jack.
All y'all appreciate y'all.
We, yeah, we, we won't be back tomorrow.
I want to talk to her soon.
She, I mean, you got to come back more.
She'll, she'll be back sometime.
She usually pops in.
Um, she was actually on NFT live with us yesterday.
We had a good time.
We had a great time.
Um, so yeah, man, very excited for you to come hang out with us over on NFT live and
hopefully y'all will all come stop over there, chill with us in the comments.
Let's check out some axle art together and talk about CZ and blast layer to all the things
happening over there.
Any last thoughts from our amazing coast and contributors up here before we go out with
some music, have a great Thanksgiving, everybody.
If you do celebrate, you guys are awesome.
We'll see you next week.
Right on.
That was nice.
All right.
If that's it, that's it.
All right.
We know what?
And you want to, you want to go, you want to go a little drama action.
If you put up Christmas lights before Thanksgiving, just unfollow me, says the guy who's literally
going around saying happy Halloween to people on October 2nd.
Okay.
Because that is okay for it.
All right.
November is the month for Thanksgiving.
You have to respect each holiday.
You got to give each holiday their full months due.
All right.
You know what?
At least there's some consistency there.
I see it.
All right.
You know, since we got Jiwa here, you've got options here for the, for the song.
I'm going to give you a vote.
We have like the really crazy, badass, upbeat, sort of dance track that I really love.
Not that one.
Not that one.
All right.
Hell yeah, Jiwa.
Or we've got, all right, then you know what?
We'll just go with the other one then.
This is...
Only two options?
Okay.
I mean, I got, I got, I got several.
All right.
I have, I have some, some Latino, some nice Latino music, new, new Latino music, or we
got some new music from Zoo and Wax Motif that's kind of electronic.
So it's a little bit heavier electronic.
Let's go, let's go, let's go Latino style.
All right.
This is called Made in Qatar by Ozuna.
And I hope you like it.
New music.
I want to mention that Wax Motif owns NFTs.
And he's a part of, uh, Trippi Tots.
I own Trippi Tots.
QD, you're wild, man.
All right.
Wax Motif got NFTs.
There's the alpha.
All right.
This is Made in Qatar by Ozuna.
Ladies and degenerates, have an amazing day.
NFT live starts in just a moment.
Links up top.
Come hang out with us over there.
G was coming.
Axos are minting soon on Artblocks Presents.
The coffins are minting on Nifty Kit.
Go make some cool coffin art.
Have a great day.
See you on YouTube.
Let's heck and go.
We'll be right back.
I'll see you in the що.
Watch out.
Go make some cool piece.
Catch you up tight.
Go make some cool stuff.
Don't look like the
need a touch.
If you like the Mooji, I got my hand set.
But I'm your brand
To make me lose
I'm the one who leaves us without jump
Like the father I'm going to give you with the tongue
I'm the villain, I'm the villain
I'm the villain, I'm the villain
I'm the villain, I'm the villain
To make me lose
I'm the one who leaves us
