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Pudgy Radio 15 ๐ฎ๐ง @PudgyGaming Special
Recorded: May 28, 2023 Duration: 2:14:34Space Recording
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We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
I'm kicking back on the couch, watch the ball to the top, one more time.
I'm kicking back on the couch, watch the ball to the top, one more time.
I'm kicking back on the couch, watch the ball to the top, one more time.
I'm kicking back on the couch, watch the ball to the top, one more time.
I'm kicking back on the couch, watch the ball to the top.
I'm kicking back on the couch, watch the ball to the top.
I'm kicking back off the couch, watch the ball to the top, one more time.
So, Adam, would you like to begin?
Like, how did you choose Pudge Penguin?
Sure.
And then why specifically this Penguin?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
2582, right?
I got in.
Yeah, that sounds right.
That sounds right.
I probably should have that memorized, but I don't.
Yeah, no, I got into Penguins because I chose Penguins because I chose Penguins because I got into an NFT project last year.
They're super, super, super heavy, I got in with a lot.
I was one of the top holders because they were saying that they were going to build an IP company.
Got to meet the founders, et cetera, et cetera.
And kind of got to watch as that project failed over the span of like seven months, lost a lot of money there and lost like all hope that I had in NFTs in the space.
So, kind of was out of NFTs for about three months, which I realized if you look at my NFT inspect, there's just like a three-month period where my account is just like a straight line, no followers, nothing, because I just kind of was observing for a few months.
And during that time, I was observing Pudgy Penguins because one of the things that I'm bullish on in this space is the use of this like IP that we're creating here and actually turning something into a company.
So, I thought Luca talking all the time about creating revenue streams outside of just releasing a coin or dropping more projects was bullish to me.
And I actually found out that I have some mutuals with Luca.
So, I had up a buddy of mine and I was like, tell me about Luca Nuts.
And he had bullish things to say about him when he used to work with them.
So, I got into Pudgy Penguins.
I knew people back in the day who had penguins during like the dark times, like while the teams were switching and all the chaos was going on.
Like I had friends in it.
And I think I was probably one of the people laughing at all you guys on the timeline, like during all that.
But yeah, and then I was actually in Japan for my birthday right after Art Basel in December when I was FOMOing super heavy to get a penguin.
They were in three for a while and they just started shooting up.
It was like four or something ETH floor.
And I was like, oh my God, if I don't get one now, I'm just not going to make it.
But, um, and this was about probably a month before they shot.
I can't remember if it, I think it was January when we shot to all time high.
But, um, I like texted all my buddies and I was like, I need someone to loan me like 4.4 ETH.
Cause I was, I was in Japan.
I ended up in my ledger on me.
Um, and one of my good buddies loaned me the ETH.
And then I grabbed this guy, um, scrolled.
He wasn't the floor.
He's probably three or four, um, rows down just because he stuck out to me the most.
Like when I, when I pick one, I want one that sticks out.
So, uh, this was, this was the guy.
Um, and I, I like him a lot, actually something I want to do when I have free time and I'm hopefully incredibly wealthy
and have an awesome legacy is I want to learn how to do, uh, I want to learn how to fly when I get my private pilot's license.
So I saw this helmet and I thought of like an aviator, but turns out it's a biker helmet, but, uh, we like the bikers too.
So, yeah, that is my long story for, uh, getting this penguin.
Wow.
What a great story.
I love it.
And by the way, although it's a biker helmet, you still got the aviator glasses.
So no problem at all.
So the aviators are the coolest.
Well, I'm biased on this matter because I, I myself got an aviator bowl cut, but yeah, I noticed that you and the cool.
So, I guess not only our partners in, uh, uh, podgaming, but also you share the same treat, right?
That's the puffer orange.
Like, did you choose intentionally or it was like an accident because like, yeah.
Uh, you are pudgy penguin 1913.
Um, yeah, no, we, um, Kuso is like a humble, like Chad, like no one ever knows, but Kuso has the jetpack little pudgy one of one and he's got, uh, I don't know, 12 bags or something.
I mean, you can talk for yourself, but it was funny because, um, I kind of joined the community and just like appeared in discord.
And I don't think really anyone knew me at the time.
Um, but I've been in communities and been in the space for, for a while.
So I kind of get, I feel like I'm like one of everyone else, you know, so I kind of get the bullshit.
Like this is around the time when people were just buying penguins to make a tweet, get a hundred likes, and then instantly send in the holder's market that they're selling it.
So I think a lot of people didn't really know if that was just going to be what I did or not.
Um, but I, uh, got, I like was talking about gaming.
I think Angel was the one that added me to, there's a, there's like a gaming little discord chat that's cars who's in the audience was in there, et cetera.
Um, and I met Kuso and like within a day of being in there, I was like, I want to make pudgy gaming because I saw Pudgy Fitness and Pudgylicious on my time.
I was like, I want to make pudgy gaming.
I think it'd be cool.
And like, I just sent it to the group chat and Kuso like DM'd me and he's like, dude, I already have at pudgy gaming.
On like three things.
Like I was thinking of the same thing and I'm like, oh my God, no way.
Um, and then we found out that we both have both.
I have two big penguins and my, my other big penguin is the, is the, uh, red do rag bow tie.
And Kuso has the carbon opposite of it.
It's the blue do rag bow tie.
And then both of our main pudgies that we use also have the orange puffers.
Uh, so it's like kind of a funny story.
Like what are the odds that he had pudgy gaming already like locked down?
He had the same idea, but we also have like the same taste in penguins, except he's a dirty
blue rag, not a red rag, but yeah.
Funny story, I guess.
Come on.
You gotta be serious.
Blue rag is the best.
Okay.
Um, I don't have a rug at all, but, um, yeah, come on.
You see, I guess that's what we talk about.
Like when we say, um, pudgy minds think alike.
Right.
So stay pudgy because yeah, I wouldn't believe that you guys actually already have your main
pudgy, like before pudgy gaming came to birth.
So, wow.
And Kuso, I've pinned your jet pack, like in the conversation because it's too iconic.
I mean, to miss.
And we are using this GIF like since the very beginning.
Okay.
For me, at least.
So how did you choose?
How did you?
Yeah.
So, um, I, I, well, thanks for having me on by the way.
And thanks for the love of the jet pack.
I love that penguin as well.
Um, I got into pudgy penguins back in like August, 2021, uh, way back.
Um, and I just started scrolling through like NFT, Twitter, crypto, Twitter, started learning
into space and started seeing like all these like, you know, animal PFPs basically.
And, uh, I saw these dot youth, uh, names and I was just trying to learn space.
And, uh, started seeing a lot of these like cute penguin PFPs, um, started seeing a lot
of memes, like, and that's when I was first introduced to like those, like Elmo and, uh,
these like hilarious memes basically and all these cute penguins.
And, uh, there's more research, went into the discord and saw like how happy the group
was and everyone's so excited about the floor and being part of the huddle.
And, um, they would like post on Twitter, like they just joined the huddle and it would
get so much engagement and it was just like a really good time and, uh, definitely wanted
to join in.
So I hopped in and got like my first penguin, uh, which was a, it had a poncho actually.
But over, uh, over time, I, as I got more like invested in the space, I really enjoyed
everyone there.
I can see some OGs right now, like Pudgy Amateur cars.
I'm really OGs from back then.
Um, and, uh, as I accumulated more penguins, like this one I saw on my PFP with the headband
and puffer, I just absolutely love.
And, uh, I just decided to make this my PFP, uh, for quite some time now.
Yeah, that's really cool.
And, uh, Adam mentioned a trip to Japan and you have this ninja headband.
And I guess maybe you both also share and like some affection or connection with, uh, let's
say not only games, but also maybe, uh, animation, like.
Well, um, so I do like the ninja headband because, um, again, yeah, it does remind me
a bit of Japan and I'm actually like half Japanese.
So that's like a nice little trade that I enjoy.
So, yeah.
Oh, hajimemashite dojo, yoroshiku unangai shimasu.
I don't, I don't speak very well of Japanese.
I don't want to even try, but thank you.
Okay.
Wow.
So that's some new information.
Okay.
So you're half Japanese.
And, um, yeah.
So talking about the influence of, uh, Japanese games, I guess.
I don't know if it's an exaggeration to say if we are, we grew up with Japanese games,
but Nintendo or like, yeah, those are the games that I guess, I don't know.
We, we all love Super Mario.
Right.
And, uh, all this, I don't know, even, uh, hasuna Miku and, um, we can name a lot.
So what are the, um, what are the early gaming experiences you have at a Mandoku?
So would you like to share?
Do you want to go first?
Yeah, you go.
Go figure.
Go figure.
Um, I'm young.
So I'm trying to think like the earliest things I remember.
I made a tweet recently when, when all those things were blowing up, like people saying
like, um, like those tweets were blowing up.
There's like four video games that define my childhood, four songs that define my, my
life or whatever, whatever that was like that, that popular like thing was going on.
Um, I, and then a buddy of mine, Finn, who works in gaming in this space specifically
posted, like he made his own like derivative of that saying like, uh, one game with the
best music or something like that.
So I quote tweeted that and made a tweet that said, that was just a time splitters.
Um, I don't know when that game came out, but I remember when I was like super young playing
on GameCube with my brother, um, and basically every game that I played growing up, um, was
just my brother's game.
So anything he played, I played, like I'm trying to think like, uh, OG Call of Duties, like
just like Star Wars Battlefront one and two.
Um, I don't know.
I play a lot of games, so it's, it's a lot of different stuff, but mostly just anything
on GameCube, um, that was kind of my thing.
Um, yeah, I agree.
It's like, if you have a brother or a cousin, like the, the first play game, uh, the first
games we play are mostly like from them.
It's also goes with the music.
And then when we play PFP, it's like, yeah, we probably get what our best friends are like
are recommending or using as the PFP.
So what about you, Dukuso?
Um, like growing up, like a Pokemon was like a really big thing for me.
Like I used to like, uh, after school, like watch the shows and then start playing the
games, like on the Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance.
So that was like a big thing, like Pokemon Red and Pokemon Silver and Ruby and all that.
So, um, I absolutely like was a big fan of Pokemon.
And then over time I, uh, started getting into like shooters, like Call of Duty and things
of that nature.
Pokemon Go.
Yes.
The other day when we were chit chatting right after the, uh, yeah, I see Drew is here too.
Thank you, Drew.
Um, so after our project puzzle, uh, space and we were talking about, yeah, how amazing and
how popular Pokemon has been.
And, uh, what if we would have this Pudger Penguins go and we have this AR experience and
wow, that's the best combination of, let's say virtual, virtuality and, um, reality when
web three goes to real life.
And actually we've already seen it like today or yesterday, did you see the fashion show
that a high end like luxury brand sort of, um, a favorite, um, one of the most popular
fashion designs named Vivian Tan.
She put, um, some punks like crypto punk on the new fashion collection.
And, uh, wow, it went like a blast.
And, um, some pop singer wear that on a big show.
And then maybe more and more NFTs can enter the mainstream area and, uh, voila, we are,
we can use that GIF now.
You are not alone.
You are not on some like anonymous Antarctic Island melting.
And you are about to draw, you're about to like, um, fell into the sea.
Not anymore.
Right.
So when Pudger Penguins and, or let's say when NFT in general goes to reach a larger audience
and talking about mass adoption.
So now I'm actually curious about what you are building with Pudger Gaming, because although,
like, can we, uh, can we draw a timeline?
Like when exactly, let's say in which months did we start Pudger Gaming?
And then, like, what are you going to achieve maybe within a year, within two or three years?
Again, you want to go or should I go?
Yeah, take it, take it, Adam.
Okay.
Um, I want to say we started in January.
So like, like maybe even the end of December, I think I might have created the discord at
the end of December.
Um, but we didn't really get the ball rolling until probably like February, to be honest.
Um, just because, uh, really the goal with this from the beginning, and I might sound like
a broken record to anyone who's like, listened to me say this before, but whatever.
Um, really the goal from this from the beginning was like, I wanted to help elevate not only the
community, but also the IP.
Like, I wanted to do something bigger than just another discord.
Like, I wanted to use some connections I have to get Penguin seen in the gaming scene.
Um, but I also wanted to make sure that this was something that would align with what the
team was doing.
Uh, at the time I didn't really know, I don't think really a lot of us knew, um, what, what
the team was going to cook out, uh, like in the near time.
So I'd say back in, in the, in the near future, whatever, um, back in like January.
So, um, originally when I made the discord, I think a lot of people were kind of hesitant
like to, to join.
And we got a bunch of kind of mixed, um, replies.
And again, I think that was because so many people are used to people just coming into the
community and trying to like milk it for money or whatever.
Um, I think there's just like, and obviously a lot of these people in this community have
been together for two years.
So when someone new comes in and just starts doing things, it's kind of like a red flag.
Um, so we ended up getting on a meeting with, uh, Lorenzo and the team just to kind of make
sure that like what we wanted to do was aligned with them and instantly right off the bat, it
was just a lot of love and support.
Um, so obviously it took some time for us to get that meeting.
So for about two or three weeks from the discord being open, um, we didn't really do much or
invite anyone in it.
We had like cars and like probably five or 10 other people in there.
Um, but yeah, then, then we started trying to fill it.
And, you know, from the beginning, uh, from when we started getting people in really, the
goal was just to see, uh, at first, okay, how many people in this community are gamers?
And then, uh, how many can we get in in this short amount of time?
And I think we got like a hundred people in there pretty quickly, um, without doing anything
crazy.
I think our first tweet did pretty well.
Um, and we realized pretty quickly that there's a lot of really talented gamers in this community.
Like for example, MASH, who if you go on the Pudgy Gaming Twitter, uh, the pin tweets,
a little thread, uh, on MASH, who's, uh, been a professional e-sports player.
And now he, uh, works for energy as a coach, which is a huge e-sports, uh, company.
Uh, he's a really good guy.
Uh, he's been helping us out a lot.
Um, but timeline timeline, I always, I always go on tangents.
Um, yeah.
So, uh, basically at a base level, if you just zoom out and look at Pudgy Gaming right
now at this date on the 28th of, uh, May, I think it is.
Um, basically right now is right now is just a looking for group.
Um, it's a good discord to go into if you play any video games or now or into puzzles.
Um, and want to talk to people about it or play with people.
It's just a, it's a good little hub to go into.
I think there's something special about a discord, uh, a gaming discord that's full of people
who are like-minded.
Something is just special about being able to play video games and shoot the shit about
some Twitter post or Ben.eth doing another presale while you're playing a video game.
It's just, I don't know, something about it's really special.
Um, and yeah, I think something we're working on right now is, um, actually, I don't know
if I can say that.
Um, we want to get, we, we've been reached out to by some people, um, to like cross-brand
penguins, um, with, with some, with some other people.
I know that sounds like I'm sooning, but yeah, there's just stuff we're, we're working on
trying to get, uh, like people that are active in Pudgy Gaming, um, on to, uh, in some other
games or on some accessories is, is what I'll say.
Um, but yeah, really less is more right now for us.
Um, cause we don't want to, again, I don't want to do anything that is going to like step
on the toes of the team or maybe not align with the vision of the, of the, of the core
team.
Um, but I think something I can say that we want to do really soon is create a Rust server,
um, and maybe a Minecraft server, but not just for penguins, but for all games.
Like all NFT projects in the space, I think it'd be really funny.
And there'd be a lot of content with like a giant Rust server with like D gods, Pudgy
Penguins, Bored Apes, and everyone just like battling, like the content on Twitter would
be hilarious.
And like, I know people would hate each other after it.
And I think it'd be so funny.
Um, but not only that, but it would get a lot of people into the Pudgy Gaming discord.
And I think that, that, that's kind of our jumpstart to getting Pudgy Gaming to probably
like a few thousand followers on Twitter and probably around 500 plus people into discord.
Um, I, I really want it to be a place where, where everyone goes, if they're playing with
other people through Twitter and video games, it's, it's kind of the place they go as like
a main hub.
Um, because even right now it's, it's pretty split up.
Um, and then D gods have their own gaming community and they hit us up about, uh, I don't know,
two days ago, um, wanting to do a Fortnite tournament.
So we got that in the works, I believe he hasn't hit me back.
So I'm not sure, but, um, I don't know.
Kuso talk over me.
So I stopped rambling.
What am I forgetting?
What else?
Um, yeah, sure.
So, um, I mean, he said, he said a lot, I think, um, so going back to the timeline again,
like, um, um, like, so Pudgy Gaming was like really creative because like, I noticed like
there was so many people who, who game, you know, and like at the time we had like a little
private, like discord group chat, uh, they only had like 10 people max and it was just
very smart or very smart for Adam, like create a discord.
So we could just, first of all, put more people and, and then, um, actually get people outside
of Penguins too, and, and really get a bigger community.
So, um, it's been a blast these past few months.
Like, uh, we've been doing, uh, these Wednesday, uh, every Wednesday, 10 PM Eastern, we do like
these community nights, uh, cause what we're noticing is like a lot of NFT communities in
general are having their, their own kind of gaming, um, niche and sub communities.
And so, um, Cozy Penguins and Anada and other NFTs, uh, are doing these cross community game
nights, uh, on Wednesday, 10 PM and we just play together and, um, it's been a lot of fun.
Um, also, um, Hologram Labs is a great partner.
Uh, they have done like these penguin holograms.
That's really great for content creation.
Uh, you guys can like stream, uh, with your penguin and it's, it's just a lot of fun,
uh, having that penguin as you, on your overlay.
And, um, I've been having a lot of fun doing some content with that and some fun clips.
Um, but yeah, honestly, uh, it's been a lot of fun.
We're trying to grow the discord and get more people.
And, you know, it's not only for penguins, it's, this is something that's like for all
of Web3 and Web2 as well, you know, and we just want to, uh, really just continue growing
and looking forward to all the tournaments and, and things going on in the future.
I completely forgot about all of that.
Yeah, no, uh, Hologram has been awesome.
They, uh, they, they're, uh, I can't remember.
Burning Bush is always in our discord.
Um, he's all, I'm in DMs with him constantly.
They're, they're great.
Anyone who's needed a pudgy who didn't get their claim, uh, we've been able to get them
their claim for free, even though normally they're charging, um, which, which is really
nice of them.
Uh, they put together a little tournament about a week or two ago, um, uh, Fortnite tournament.
It was us versus dead fellas.
And it was like a five V seven and we won all three of the matches.
I say we, I was just spectating, but, um.
Pretty proud of that.
Every time we win something, like, I feel like a dad at a baseball game, but, um, it
was, it was awesome.
Um, and then, yeah, the, the community night, uh, is actually like done really well.
Um, I normally, I don't really partake in those kind of Cuso has been taking the initiative
there, but, um, yeah, it's, it's us, Anada and cozy penguins, but other communities
have been reaching out to us.
It was funny, um, cause it's a small community of people that are in this Twitter spaces right
now.
So I'll say this, but a founder of a project that used to be really big, but isn't so big
now, um, DM'd me saying, Oh, sorry, man.
Didn't ever see this DM.
Um, and then asking to get into this gaming night, um, but he ghosted me for two years
and now he's DMing me trying to get in this gaming night.
So I'm like, ha, how the turntables.
Um, but, uh, yeah, no, um, that's awesome.
That's something else we're trying to do more of is kind of get a night every single week
that people can get on and play.
But the, the difficult thing is like, you can't really put a time on when you're free
to play video games.
Like, it's just kind of, you're free when you're free and that's when you play video
games.
It's not like, Oh, well every Thursday at five to 8 PM is when I play video games.
Like no one says that no one does that.
So, uh, we've tried doing polls and stuff to see like what day most people are free.
And it's basically like Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Um, but yeah, I think that the only thing that we kind of have set in stone right now
is the Wednesday game night.
Um, because like I said, it's just, it's just hard to get people together.
So when people are there, people are there.
I, whenever I'm playing games, I hop in VC and that's kind of shit that we're trying to
push if you're playing games and you're not playing with anyone, just hop in VC.
Is she rugging and are you, are you rugging or is this me?
My bad.
I think, I think she's rugging.
I hope like, can you hear me?
Oh, I can hear you now, I think.
Oh no.
Uh oh.
Hi, hi.
Okay.
Oh, there you go.
Right.
Okay.
Thank God.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I guess the connection can be a bit tricky sometimes.
So what an eventful timeline you are having at Pudge Gaming.
And I totally agree with you.
It's, it'll be, it'll be a bit weird to see if someone is a very disciplined gamer who
will play a game like at a certain time of the day and like every week.
But come on, that's so good.
You can come up with this Wednesday gaming night because it's really not easy to summon
people from, like people from different places and then do this synergy.
And, and I see there are many like pop games in, in the discord and people have a lot of choices.
Rust, Apex and Call of Duty.
And, um, that really makes me smile because, yeah, as long as you have a lot of, like a
large selection, you can engage more.
And especially you just now mentioned, you will engage like the gamers, not only from
Pudge Penguins, but also from the apes and the gods.
And that's the best.
And talking about battle, battle is always the most fun thing.
For example, just to watch our Durag, blue versus red.
Which one do you choose?
And yeah, we need to battle no matter it's about breakdance or rap or gaming.
And we need to do the battle.
So, like more specifically, aside from the timeline, could you share, could you share with us, like
the vision and mission of, um, Pudge Gaming?
Like to be more specific, do you have a short-term plan and a long-term plan?
You, you want me to go?
You got it, Adam.
Um, yeah.
Like I said earlier, something we want to do, like in the short term is, uh, put together
this Rust server and, uh, like a Minecraft server too, probably.
Um, and the vision with that really is to jumpstart, uh, Pudgey Gaming to be kind of
the hub for not just Pudgey Penguins, but for, for kind of everyone's in the space.
Um, and the thought process behind that is say we have a Rust server, um, and we target
all of, uh, like web three gamers that play Rust.
Um, they'll have to join the Discord to, like, partake in it, and that's where our announcements
will be, uh, et cetera.
Um, so the thought process with that is if we have a server of 100, 200 people, um, even
if we get a low amount of people, even 50 people, that's 50 people from multiple different
communities.
So the reach is now spreading out.
If those 50 people are in there and they talk to a friend, that's 50 times two, that's
a hundred people, uh, et cetera.
Um, so our short-term vision really is just growing this, uh, beyond just Pudgey Penguins.
Um, and, and like I said, the, the community, or like Kuso said, I should say, the community
night that we do every Wednesday.
Um, I think we want to do more, uh, stuff like that to, to really, um, kind of build it,
um, beyond what it is right now.
Um, and then long-term is to get, uh, like, another thing we did that I forgot to mention
was we kind of want to empower people to create content with their Penguin.
Um, like, a lot of people don't want to do the hologram labs where you're, like, VTubing.
Like, a lot of people want to have their webcam on, which is totally fine.
Like, we're not going to force someone, like, oh, if you're streaming, you have to, you have
to be, I feel like you're Penguin.
Um, but really we want to, we want to help people start creating content.
Uh, something I used to do, uh, in like 2021 was like Grotech, uh, like socials, um, like
TikTok specifically, I used to be good at.
I might not be anymore based on how things have changed, but, um, I know how to set up
streams and YouTube shorts and everything.
And basically we got, we got some people to start streaming.
And what's cool about streaming is you can grab clips from your stream.
Like, say you have like a 40 second clip that's just really funny or you do really well.
And then you can grab that 40 second clip and toss it on TikTok, toss it on YouTube shorts,
toss it on Instagram reels.
And now you've just gotten, all you had to do was record one thing.
You've, you've gotten that on, uh, four different platforms.
Um, and even if your Penguin is just your PFP or when you get a follow, your Penguin pops up,
it's really good exposure.
Um, our thought process behind that is because of MASH, um, who I was talking about earlier,
who's, um, pinned on Pudgy Gaming's Twitter.
Um, I was talking to him when we, when we were interviewing him for that and he has his,
obviously his, uh, Penguin is PFP on Twitter.
So people from the gaming scene always tell him, Oh, I love that Penguin.
Like, is that from a TV show or is that from a cartoon or did someone custom make that for
you?
Um, and, but there's just common denominator is everyone really likes the way the Penguins
look.
Um, so I think getting Penguins seen in the gaming scene or in, uh, TikTok or Twitter or
really anywhere, just, just helping, uh, kind of the team's vision of just getting Penguins
seen everywhere is the, uh, kind of the thought process there, but we kind of, kind of slowed
down on pushing that narrative.
Um, but I, I think that's going to be a step that you see come back, uh, with us over the
next few months.
Once we kind of get, uh, an active community of people just constantly flowing in there.
Um, I don't know, Kuso, what else?
Yeah.
If I didn't think of anything.
Yeah.
We definitely want to like encourage content.
And the one way, like we try to do this is with like, um, our, um, Pudgy Gaming Twitter.
Like we can, you guys can have, if you guys have like a cool clip or something that you
guys want to showcase, you can just like tweet at it, tweet and do the hashtag Pudgy Gaming.
That's a cool way for us to like see your clips and then, you know, we can always like
it, retweet it.
So that clip can be shared.
Um, also we have like a, a channel in the discord for like Clips Flex where like, you
know, just want to showcase some cool clips that you guys got there.
You can always put it there as well.
Um, just things like that, you know, for people who, you know, have some awesome moments in
gaming and want to share that, you know?
So that's, that's one way we also do that.
Yeah.
Talking about content creation, it's so web three, right?
Like creativity economy.
And also you just mentioned the hologram, uh, actually Burning Man and Tom, uh, the CEO
was in, uh, uh, Pudge Radio, the episode six and, um, Burning Man made a confession.
He said he actually spent more time in Pudge Gaming Discord channel than he did in hologram.
So, and, uh, he was excused like on spot by Tom, but yeah, we can see the charm of Pudge
Gaming.
And, um, um, also it's really great to say, I don't know, we, we cannot go on this space
without mentioning Club Penguin, right?
I'm not sure whether you have played that, uh, game or not, but it'll be so, I don't know,
so heartwarming and so feels like coming home, like to have a game featuring all ourselves.
It's like, yay, we are in the game.
You see, the world is a simulation, right?
The world is a simulation and we are in that simulation, like with our own Penguin avatar.
So like, yeah, I'm not going to ask when, but, uh, like, but yeah, can you talk about this?
Yeah, um, I, uh, I'm bullish on Pudgy World and what's happening there.
So that's something we're very, uh, thoughtful of.
Like, I've been thinking like, okay, I'm thinking like top of the line, like, okay, what if the
craziest things happen?
Like the best thing everyone wants to happen, like Pudgy World blows up, all these toys blow
up and there's millions of kids with their custom Forever Pudgy and they're all playing
Pudgy World and it's having crazy daily average users, like how, then what is Pudgy Gaming
going to be?
Um, and if we're going to target more people or if at that point, then we're going to close
the Discord and it's private invite or what?
Like that's obviously, this is, this is crazy thinking, but, um, it's something I think about,
right?
Like I was talking to someone about this.
I can't remember who, but about a week ago, um, and just kind of trying to figure out how
we'll pivot if, uh, if everything goes as the team plans.
So, um, yeah, I mean, that's really all I got to say on that.
Uh, we'll see what happens when it happens, but we're really prepared for anything, uh, when
it comes to that, I think.
Yeah, actually, when I asked this question, I also have that in mind that it's really not
easy to develop a game on your own.
I mean, it takes huge assets and talents and time and, um, actually our fans and users or
ourselves patients as well.
So it won't be easy, but if there's a prospect, wow, that's, that's really something.
And, um, yeah, I, I, I should have checked, but, uh, were you at East Denver?
Because at East Denver, there's some like developer mentioned, uh, on-chain game games, because like
before, uh, only some of the NFTs are on-chain and, uh, even with that, uh, the crypto games
can be a bit problematic.
Okay.
When we talk about Web3 games, but then if we develop further to on-chain games, well,
a lot of assets are on-chain and maybe the problems can be even bigger.
What do you think about that?
I got such a strong opinion on this.
It's crazy.
Um, a lot of people don't know this, but I own a company that, um, produces like really
low budget Web3 games.
Like for example, some of the games that people have played when they're minting, uh, like
just mint to play games, uh, we've, we've created and we, we got one coming out, uh, soon.
Uh, the reason no one knows this is because I don't care to shill that stuff.
And especially when I'm running Pudgy Gaming, I don't, I don't want people to think I'm literally
just doing this to throw people towards, uh, the stuff that I'm working on.
But I do, um, so I'm, I have a really strong opinion on that.
It's funny.
I, I own this company, but I'm like so bearish in Web3 Gaming.
Like I'm like the most bearish person you could talk to when it comes to Web3 Gaming.
Um, but I'm bullish on, on what this team is doing with the, the interoperability and
the way they're doing it.
But the reason I'm bearish is because, um, and let me look, okay, he's not in here, but
I got a buddy who works for a project and they have really optimistic goals.
They have a ton of VC funding, like more money than God.
Right.
Uh, and they're building a game, but they want to put all the assets on chain.
And the issue with that is if your game, it's limiting you, right?
Like, uh, think of an example, say word with friends or say clash of clans.
If you look at how much, how many transactions go through to buy gems on clash of clans or,
or buy items on clash of clans every single day, it's in the hundred thousands or one
millions.
Um, there's not a single blockchain, not polygon, not arbitrum, nothing that can handle that
many transactions in an hour or in a day.
Um, at least not yet.
And I guess there's maybe something, I mean, tech is going to advance and I'm sure in the
future it will be there, but I'm really bearish on most on chain things.
Um, I think the way, and not only that, but another thing is like, when you say NFTs or
when you say crypto in the gaming scene, it's an instant turnoff for all these people.
And I think the reason behind that is because of all the influencers or gamers or YouTubers
that, uh, got paid to promote crypto, but had no idea what it was.
It was just the, the, the craziest paycheck they've ever seen in 2021.
Uh, I mean, I know people who got paid a hundred thousand dollars just to shout out a coin
put on their Twitch stream, like crazy stuff like that.
So everyone automatically assumes this stuff is a scam.
Um, so I think the way to really Trojan horse, like Luca says all the time is doing exactly
what they're doing.
I think the best web three game that'll come out is a game that people play and they don't
even realize it's on chain.
Um, they don't have to make a wallet.
They don't have to go through all this.
I mean, if you really think about it, yeah, we've advanced since 2017, but.
Still making a MetaMask wallet and looking at ether scan and all this stuff is just not
designed for, uh, mass adoption yet.
Um, so I mean, I can go on for hours on this topic.
I'm, I, I'm like, this is like the most opinionated topic I'm on.
So whenever I see Twitter threads about gaming and people just saying really stupid stuff,
I like have to genuinely put my phone down and walk away.
So I don't comment some crazy shit or quote, tweet and say some crazy stuff, but yeah, I'm
really, really bullish on, um, this is another reason I'm bullish on, on Pudgy Penguins and
what this team is doing is because of how, how, how they're going about doing it.
Okay.
Okay.
So I really appreciate what you said because opinionated opinions are opinions, mediocre opinions
and not opinions, or it just sounds too official or formal, or just, I don't know, diplomatic.
Like, come on, be opinionated, but will it be a problem if I share your opinion, like
in words and publish on the, um, on Twitter?
Like, would that, would that be like, Oh yeah, totally.
Oh yeah.
That's really fun.
I don't, I don't mind.
That's great.
Because yeah, really we need, when I hear some opinionated opinion, I'm, um, yeah, I think
you are being like, or the person is being really sincere because otherwise, come on,
why all this, like, we are not diplomats, right?
Yeah, I totally agree because in 2021, um, I happen to be like a rookie in gaming and me
and my friends were playing like some, actually it looks really ugly, but they, they returned
that I was pretty handsome and it was like an easy a hundred X.
And for some of us, it's like a thousand X.
So that was, that was a wow.
But the game was, to be honest, so ugly.
And, um, it's really not appealing in an aesthetic way, but in a financial way, it was good.
And, um, but still the game, okay.
Let's see the user experience, the UI sucks because like every now and then like something
was blocked and you cannot get transferred and I was just stuck, just stuck in the simulation.
Like that was like, it, it would take you half a day or one day to get your assets ready.
And then you play on, but of course we got a little studio or let's say a small labs for,
um, and we hired 50 people to play the games for us or with us actually, but still, I mean,
the waiting we spend, we'll probably spend, okay.
In the first two weeks, we probably spend more time waiting than playing.
So that's one of the things like to be fair, like why we are still bearish about it, but
I don't know.
So yeah, let's look to the future when, when AI taps into gaming, like would there be a
change instantly or anytime soon?
Like, um, AI plus blockchain, although it's very broad question.
I'd be lying if I told you I have any idea to be honest.
Um, I don't know.
I got a lot of dev friends who are really opinionated on AI and stuff.
And to be completely honest, I've only used GPT three and four to just do stupid things.
Like, cause I find it hilarious to like, just ask it questions.
Like I'm like a soft brain when it comes to that.
Like I'm just sitting in bed in my pajamas, like typing stupid stuff to it.
Like, what is the meaning of life?
Cause I think it's hilarious the AI replying to stuff like that.
Um, so I'm not the right person to talk about that.
Um, I don't know if Kuso has any thoughts on that.
I, I kind of doubt it, but I don't know, maybe Kuso is an AI genius.
No, definitely not.
I mean, definitely not.
I mean, ultimately, I don't, I don't know too much about AI.
Um, in terms of like gaming, like, you know, it is interesting.
I think like, uh, I think that some AI are going to get better and better and it's going
to affect the gaming space in terms of like cheaters.
So I think like there's going to be a lot of AI that are going to be very, very, very difficult
to detect if they're cheating or not.
And they're, cause they're going to be moving just how like we move it.
Like as humans move the controllers and stuff like that.
So it's going to be much harder to detect, um, a lot of these bots and cheaters, but, um,
we'll see how, um, when the time, as the time evolves.
Sure.
That's also one thing we like about project gaming down to earth and creative at the same
time.
So what a rare combination.
And so back to, um, the community and also back to the, um, timeline.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Um, about the web two games, like, can we answer a fundamental, or do you just tease about the
idea, but can I ask you a fundamental question?
Like what's gaming to us?
And because when we think about it, gamification is everywhere, not just the in web two games.
It's in our real lives.
It's in the, all kinds of the details are in our daily lives.
Like a lot of things are gamified.
For example, even one of the mobile phone application, we can say it has a very gamified experience.
For example, do lingo, right?
Uh, the one you use to, um, like learn foreign languages, the whole UE is quite gamified.
So like, what, what is game to you?
And, um, what is gaming to humanity?
And, uh, what do you think of the movie Ready Player One?
Yeah.
You're gone first this time.
All right.
Uh, what, what is gaming to me?
Wow.
Uh, that's, uh, Hmm.
Okay.
So for me, I mean, I, I've always been gaming since I was very young.
I always felt it was like a really fun hobby.
Um, something that I always enjoyed doing.
Um, and I also started noticing, like, it was definitely a way for me to be, uh, more social
as well, um, being able to reach out to people from other states and different online.
Um, it's been great.
I've been, I met some people through gaming, um, and then met in my RL and just been some
really close relationships.
So I think gaming can be like a very fun hobby as well as something very social, um, and a
way to really like communicate with others.
So that's one thing that I really enjoyed about, uh, gaming.
Um, my answer is real philosophically.
Um, one, I love, uh, ready player one.
Like that's my shit.
Uh, I, I, I have a VR headset.
I have like three of them actually.
Uh, this thing's covered in dust right now.
I'm looking at it.
I've not used this in like two years, but, um, I love it.
Uh, my buddy in Texas has like a whole treadmill that you can stand on and run in and crazy
stuff.
Um, I think that's the future.
That's why whenever people are calling these crappy web three games.
Metaverses, I'd laugh.
I'm like, have you ever read ready player one?
Have you ever seen that movie?
Like, do you have any idea what an actual Metaverse is?
Um, that being said, I own Meta stock and I, it's up really fat.
So thank you, Zuckerberg pump, pump that up.
Um, bearish on what he's building, but the socks going up.
So I like that.
Um, gaming though.
I think it's a fantastic question because, um, I think you're right when it comes to everything
in this world is getting gamified.
I saw treadmills that have, uh, like a game on the screen.
So when you're running, uh, like the, the treadmills, uh, the character on the screen
is running.
I saw another one where recently where it's, it's something, something for your biceps,
but when you're pulling, it's like, uh, you have to, you have to get the guy to not hit
the walls.
So it forces you to do reps.
Um, that was recently, it was probably a week ago when I saw this.
So it's like gamified, um, exercising.
Um, as for, uh, when it comes to talking to significant others, I could not comment on that.
Um, I've locked myself in my room for the past three years, staring at, uh, charts and
buying digital pictures of animals.
So I couldn't say I've talked to any females recently.
Uh, so no gamifying there for Adam.
Um, um, what else, what else?
Um, I mean, everything really, I think gaming is big, something that I've been waiting for
for years.
And I finally saw in, uh, NFT NYC last few months ago was like gaming bars.
Um, like instead of going and watching football or soccer, baseball or whatever on TV, you're
like watching e-sports.
I think that's super sick.
Something I've always wanted to do is go to a huge e-sports event.
Like a CSGO or something.
So, um, I don't know.
I'm bullish on the future of gaming, but I'm also really bearish on it because of like things
like ready player one.
I think it's like dystopian.
Um, if we're all just like sitting in our rooms and the only interaction with other people
we have is via like a screen.
I think that's like scary.
I think that is what we're heading towards, especially with like, uh, meta and Zuckerberg
and just everything.
So I love gaming, but at the same time, I'm like terrified of it.
So, um, I don't know.
Crazy question.
Yeah.
It's like, um, it's always about the measure, right?
Know the measure and know that self and keep the measure.
It's like, yeah, we love gaming, but not too much of it.
At least not 724, please.
Yeah.
And, um, let's see.
Um, do we have some questions for Adam and Ducousel?
Like, um, our dear listeners, I try to invite some, some of you on the stage and, uh, please
accept her the invite if you are free to talk.
At the same time.
Yeah.
When we think about the movie Ready Player One, that, that is a movie made by a man who
was at a time over 70 years old and still so passionate.
And, um, whenever I think about this and I would say, wow, Steven Spielberg, you are
like, oh, a book father.
Thank you so much.
Yeah.
I see you are connecting.
Yeah.
Please.
Yes, please.
Sir, you can, uh, ask the question now if you have one.
Hey guys.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Yes.
Loud and clear.
Sorry about that.
Um, I feel like my connection is terrible.
Um, yeah.
I mean, I don't really have any questions.
It's so funny cause like I met, uh, Ducousel at NFT NYC and he lives in like the same neighborhood
I grew up in, which is like kind of funny.
And like, we took like a short little, little anecdote, but we, we shared an Uber back together
and I dropped them off at the police precinct.
Like as a, well, I was just like, yeah, wait, I know where you live.
And like, I just, I just dropped them off at the police precinct.
I don't know even know why, like we weren't doing anything illegal, but.
So yeah, we're not, we're not going to talk about it.
I didn't really have any questions, but I was like, I got to support Pudgy gaming though.
I, even though I haven't, I haven't really hopped on in a minute.
I haven't turned my Xbox on in like six months, but God, I love, I love gaming.
I love Pudgy's perfect combo.
So we got to do like a, like a halo tournament, like get like a bunch of like a teams or fours
together and run.
Dude, that would be sick.
I'm actually so down for that.
That would be super sick.
Winners get like little Pudgy's or something.
Yeah.
We could like, we could all bet, bet on it.
Toss in.
I mean, or yeah, I don't, you know, we could just toss stuff.
I mean, we're all degenerate gamblers anyway, so we could like.
Dude, that just gave me an idea.
We could put like a section in the discord for like betting and games, like 1v1s and
shit.
And like everyone could spectate while people are betting like on each other.
That could be really funny, actually.
Put a multi-sig.
Put a multi-sig.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Make like a Pudgy gaming multi-sig and like everyone sends their money to that.
And then, holy crap.
That, dude, just gave me an idea.
A bad idea too, but that'd be amazing.
Yeah.
Talking about like, yeah, I haven't, haven't opened the box of my Switch for a very long
time now, so it's time to open it again because of Pudgy gaming.
And it's so much fun.
Yeah.
And talking about, I don't know, the other day, actually yesterday, I was checking Twitch
and also a local gaming platform.
Like, could we talk about gaming platform?
Like, how are they making a difference in terms of not only the game industry, but also gamers?
Gamers, be it like professional gamers or just, yeah.
Sorry, YouTube video just like started playing on my Mac and screaming at me, so I like actually
didn't hear your specific question.
Could you repeat that?
Yeah, sure.
Absolutely.
So what is your opinion about these gaming platforms?
Like, what are the changes they are making for not only the gaming industry, but also like
for professional gamers and let's say ordinary gamers?
What do you mean by gaming platforms?
Like Twitch?
Like Twitch?
Yeah, exactly.
And those that we can do live.
And yeah, for example, in Asia, there's one called Bully Bully, and it's huge.
It's somewhat like Twitch.
Got it.
Hmm, that's a good question.
I mean, there's a lot going on with Twitch right now, specifically, like a lot of people
are getting off Twitch and going into things like Kik, et cetera, because they get better
revenue.
Like, I think for the people watching, I think most people would rather stay on Twitch, like
as a viewer, just because the UI is good and we're all used to it from years and years.
But as a producer of content creation, not even just gaming, but like any content, I think
a lot of people are going to explore things like Kik and things where they get higher revenue.
Like, for example, if you get a subscriber on Twitch, you're not getting the whole $5.
You're getting about half of it.
Whereas on Kik, you get like 80%.
So you're getting paid out more on that platform.
So they're pushing the narrative of they support creators more.
As for how, I guess I can comment on this.
I mean, there's a guy I'm chill with who works at a big gaming accessories company that's
owned by another tech company that's big.
Like, I'm trying not to say what it is because I don't want to spill alpha, but they make
like headsets, mice and keyboards, et cetera.
And they sponsor some of the biggest content creators in the world.
They're trying to enter Web3.
Like, they've been trying to enter Web3 for about a year and a half now.
But it's just very difficult for them to do it because of like what I said earlier, how
much gamers and like the average person just despises NFTs and crypto.
So this is one of the people that I have put in contact with the Pudgy team because I think
they can kind of both Trojan Horse the opposite directions.
I think it'd be good for Pudgy Penguins to Trojan Horse into Web2, but also for them to Trojan
Horse into Web3.
And I think I think that's because of, for example, Pudgy Penguins Instagram.
For example, if I went on their website and say my headset just broke and I went on their
website on the front page, I see limited time Pudgy Penguins headset.
And I see like, for example, my amazing penguin on the side of a headset.
I'd be like, oh, that's awesome.
I'm going to buy that.
And without even knowing what a Pudgy Penguin was, I would just think, oh, that looks cool.
Like compared to all these other headsets, this one looks the coolest.
And I'd buy it.
And if I ever was interested, like, what even is this penguin?
I would go and either Google Pudgy Penguins or go on Instagram because I feel like this
might be false, but Instagram, TikTok, whatever type in Pudgy Penguins.
And if I was brought upon the TikTok or the Instagram, I would think, oh, it's just some
brand, some some account.
That's kind of cool without even knowing it's an NFT.
So I think it's kind of a perfect fit there.
So I think I don't know, though, how like things like Twitch or whatever would would tap
into this space.
I know a lot of people think it would be easy to just be like reward holders of your project
with like a coin.
But I mean, coins just aren't sufficient.
Like if you if you launch a coin for viewers to claim like an airdrop, it's just the coins
not going to be worth anything in a week.
So I don't know.
I have a lot of thoughts on that.
But if I could answer that question, I'd be I'd be probably worth a lot of money.
OK, the reason why I ask is because I, I see not only statistics, but also like some people
around me, their lives have been forever changed because of these platforms, because they are
doing this game casting.
And wow, they got like first maybe like 10s or 20s of followers and then a thousand and
five thousand and some of them got like a million fans and they got huge.
And then they tap into crypto.
And when they do gamify, so they got like ups and downs like us and like everybody else.
But still, then they gradually invite their gaming brothers and bros into.
Yes, please.
Into the crypto games, the gamify.
And then, wow, soon enough, the gamify groups are full of or let's say half of them are Web2
pros or Web2 like game casters.
That's quite a scene.
Yes, book father, please.
Yeah, no, that that is right.
I mean, it's it's kind of hard to be to I mean, to like kind of scale a streaming platform.
I think it was easier at like the origination of it.
And I kind of that's probably one of the biggest my first huge fumble.
So like back in like oh nine, like 2010 around there, like and to Halo three and like Halo
Reach, I was like considered like I was a MLG pro like I'd go to events like our team
was we were like top 16 really barely a pro.
But we were pro.
But we like it was like Ninja was there, too.
And everyone knows Ninja.
And I remember there was the first like Twitch party.
I think it was like 2012.
They were just in TV back then.
And I went to the first Twitch party and the guy's like, yeah, you know, you have like a
decent following.
You should probably you probably stream.
And I'm like, who wants to watch me play video games, bro?
That was my response.
I was like I was like a 19 year old kid.
Didn't have any foresight.
And I've I have another story about Tesla, too, where I fumbled generational wealth with
a guy that like literally talks to Elon Musk telling me to buy Tesla in 2017.
But I'm like, nah, bro, I'm good with Bitcoin.
But yes, it it's like it's definitely doable.
And I have like contacts.
I mean, actually, the Call of Duty guys, I was like the Halo Halo and the Call of Duty
community was pretty tight.
But I'm not in good standing with the Call of Duty guys because they basically bought the
top of Ethereum back in like 20 at the end of 2017.
And they still hate me for that.
I haven't recovered.
I got skumped to buy like 100K of Ethereum at the top and he's still tight.
I don't think I spoke to him in like a few years.
But yeah, I mean, I think getting like I feel like like that would be a good transition.
But the problem is I feel like a lot of gamers don't they're fighting against their own
interests with with NFTs and crypto.
It's like hard to really sell them on that.
You got to do like you got to do some kind of inception to to like get them to to transfer
over because they're they're just they they just listen to narrators.
They basically like like to get screwed over by corporations with shitty and like feeding
them shitty games.
Like it's it's a very it's like a weird thing.
It's like they they like to get tortured.
They like to pay for garbage, pay for DLC, get developers that don't give a shit, like don't
give a shit, you know, I mean, they're like worse devs than the ones that like, like turn
up these shit coins.
Like there's literally worse devs that work for these companies and they get I mean, it's
there's no one you ever what if you if you guys are like, oh, geez, watch the Halo to
the making of Halo 2 and like the blood, sweat and tears those guys put in Bungie like like
crazy hours like they were people that cared about the game.
And I think the whole industry was different.
You know, once once you get these companies go public, they just care about the shareholders.
And then like because I had friends that work for 343 now that were Halo pros and they they
game test.
They're like QA people.
They put in their feedback.
And then like the big wigs are just like, yeah, we don't want that.
Like that's not going to sell any games.
So they literally just pay them like they get the it's like, do you want to see the revival?
Of this game?
And they're like, no, we just kind of want to milk our our constituents.
We want to milk everyone.
So that's the unfortunate.
I mean, I think that's why we're Web3 can start.
Like, I think that's why it's going to be like an indie game that like catches fire that
like, you know what I mean?
Because like there aren't we're not like catering to shareholders and whoever capture whoever
like creates that if it's an FPS, I hope it's an FPS.
I hope it's not like an MMO or like a or, you know, like a.
What was it?
A MOBA?
I don't know.
It probably will be.
It probably will be.
That's just like what people are used to.
But FPSs are so fun.
There's like they're just but it's it's hard.
I mean, I'm just a boomer, honestly.
Like it's just me being a boomer.
But whatever.
It doesn't matter.
Right.
As long as it happens and it's good and it's fun.
Like people will will be forced to move over.
But, you know, like you can't you can't just force the the you know, the like the tokenomics
and bullshit.
You can't just force dogs people to play dog shit like Axie Infinity.
Like they're not going to they're not going to care.
Like it's just not enough to stop like grinding out, you know, getting like a bunch of Filipinos
to grind, you know, characters for you.
Like that's not that's not a sustainable strategy like you want to like I put in like 16 hours
a day into Halo.
Like like it was so even when I wasn't even making money, I like like, yeah, I was like
a nerdy ass kid, but it's like I love the game.
You know what I mean?
It was like I didn't even care about money or whatever.
But like that's like money only is a good enough incentive for, you know, it doesn't
really make make it, you know, sustainable in the long term.
So I think it'll happen.
And I don't know what what the catalyst will be, but it just it's just going to have to
be a fun indie game.
But it'll just be about people that like are OGs like like that's the thing.
Like if I was like an angel investor, I would just like find like developers that are like
fed up with all this nonsense and like that can that have like experience in like gaming,
you know, like and they're like, you know what, we'll we'll take a shot and we'll do something
like and that's the thing.
That's why like nothing's good in like movies, like entertainment.
All this content sucks because no one takes any risk.
And that's the that this is the perfect time to take risk.
And you could even like you can like I don't know, you can even like fund it through the
like people, you know what I mean?
Through a coin, I guess you could fund it that way.
And, you know, and and and you don't have that that shareholder expectation.
But, you know, you have people that want to succeed, but they won't have they won't put
that same pressure on the team that you would have in, you know, traditional finance.
So I don't know, I as someone like I haven't been a gamer in a while, but I do understand
how it works.
I don't put enough time in over the years, but I do want it to succeed.
And I think it will.
It's just really a matter of time.
Yeah, I think it's easy to take the easy path in this space, like to make a game, especially
in like 2021.
Just make a game with a token.
It's like that's like the easiest way to get VC funding, like from the stuff that we were
making, I remember a mobile game studio hit us up and they're like, oh, yeah, we'll give
you four million dollars for an allocation of a token for this game.
And I was like, holy shit.
Like, dude, I like, dude, without knowing anything, no pitch deck, nothing, just showing
them some footage from the game in 2021.
They're like, oh, yeah, we'll give you four mil for this.
Like, what?
And I have such a big pride that I was like, no, we're not doing that.
And I want to do this right way.
Blah, blah, blah.
And the game never launched and I spent like $30,000 to produce it and it just never went
anywhere.
It's sitting on a shelf somewhere in this developer's computer.
Yeah, I think the biggest thing that we don't have is like a fun game.
Like, I know it sounds crazy, but like, number one is the game actually has to be fun.
And then number two is it has to be replayable.
Like, you can't just like play this game for an hour and be like, all right, I'm done now.
Like, it needs to be a replayable thing.
And those are the two hardest things.
Like, people trying to build in this space.
Like, I always shit on it and I'm so opinionated about it because like, I'm watching Bethesda
get shit on during like game showcases and they have hundreds of millions of dollars and
all these devs.
Like, I'm watching, oh, these graphics suck.
Oh, look at this.
Oh, it's only 100 FPS in this.
And then like, I'm looking at Web3 games that everyone's like, oh, I'm so bullish on this.
And I'm like, dude, you guys have no idea this like industry.
Like, you've never played a video game in your life.
Like, I'm convinced.
So, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I laughed also bug when you were saying like people like getting treated like shit because
I was in Discord earlier with one of my IRL buddies and we're all laughing at him.
We're like, dude, like my brother is like, yeah, I uninstalled Call of Duty when I saw their
new ad for an Easter Bunny skin.
And that's $20.
And my buddy's like, no, no, I think it's sick.
I'm going to buy it right now.
He's like, they should be paying you because now I want to buy it more.
And then he's like spent $20 on the skin just to prove a point.
And I was like, oh, my God, like we're so doomed.
There's YouTube channels that like of people that just complain about Call of Duty for like
the last five years.
It's like, dog, it's never going to change.
Just face the fact.
Right.
It's like the like it's like, you know what?
Your president, like our president's just going to suck.
Like, don't waste your like things are just not going to change unless you like do something
about it.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like you can't if you keep supporting it.
Right.
Like they're going to keep giving you dog shit.
You keep giving them money.
You're going to get the same response.
And that's why I'm not I don't even buy anything.
I don't support any of it.
But I mean, there's two.
The problem is there's still too many people that do.
There's too many like latchkey parents.
They're like, here you go, kid.
Here's a here's buy this and so I like raise you just play this crappy game.
And here's my credit card.
I don't want to raise you.
I don't want to take care of you.
Like, just play this crappy game.
Like, that's literally the fact of like just parenting.
I just know that that's how it works.
That's what that's the only because no one with a brain would actually pay for this.
It has to be like children taking their parents credit cards.
No one with like two brain cells is like, you know what?
I'm going to give this company more money.
You know how much money I spent on Halo between 2004 and like 2010?
I think I bought Halo 2.
There was one downloadable thing.
It was like Sanctuary and like Warlock.
And like I spent like $8 on that in like 05.
And then like Halo 3, there was no debt.
Like I don't think there's maybe like one or two DLCs.
But it was like crazy.
Sick maps.
Like it was so worth it.
I spent like 150 bucks.
I spent more money like going to events and stuff and doing that because it was that's it created like a culture.
Like that's what you want, right?
Not like some crap.
Like you know what I mean?
You're never going to use those skins again.
And that's even like more of a reason to like incorporate NFTs.
You're never going to use that crap again.
But maybe I can use this stupid Easter Bunny costume for another game.
I don't know.
But it's like absolutely insane.
But I mean I understand it.
I also know that nothing's going to change.
So I don't really care.
But it's like a lot of things.
You know, just what are you going to do?
Yeah, like that's what I'm saying.
Like especially right now, you see a lot of like games as a live service, right?
And they're releasing games that's like not really polished or not really a complete product.
And then they talk about like doing updates like scheduling.
And like, you know, it's not a quality game versus like I've watched that Halo 2 doc you're talking about.
And I've seen like the devs like putting in so many hours and making games so good.
And it feels like I can't speak to all dev teams and games, but there are definitely a lot of games like recently.
I feel like that has just been complete shit.
Like horrible.
Dude, it's most of them.
Right.
Yeah, most of them.
Honestly, yeah, most of them.
Yeah.
Like technically like terrible and like this needs so much patching.
And so that's like that's just a huge thing in the space.
Like it has to be a quality game.
And if a Web3 game is really going to do well, it's going to be a very has to be a very polished game.
And then it has to have be very well marketed as well.
Because, you know, you can have a great Web3 game, but it just won't be known unless unless it's really shown by like some kind of like Twitch or YouTube platform.
I think like I think a lot of gaming companies are starting to realize like how important gaming content creators are.
Like you'll see like, you know, Call of Duty pull a certain amount of like viewers for eSports tournament, but then you'll have like a watch party from Scumpy that pulls maybe 2x the viewers.
So like you're seeing a lot of gaming companies understand like how important and influential these gaming content creators are.
You know, if they post a bad review on YouTube, you know, that could really affect sales.
When you see someone like XQC playing a game that no one knows and it has a point of 100K viewers, right?
A lot of people are going to start playing that game and downloading games.
So, you know, gaming content creators have a huge influence in the game.
And I think, you know, a lot of these gaming companies have to like cater towards them and make sure like, you know, they first of all make a polished product that's really well done.
But also incentivize the creator to showcase their game because they really do provide a lot of value for these gaming companies.
Yeah, I guess maybe that's also one of the reasons why we are so into Pudge Penguins.
Pudge Penguins because like Pudge is never in a rush to make a gamified thing to enable people to get like 100X or maybe 200X and then voila, that's the end of it.
No, that's never the vision of Pudge.
So thank God that's it.
And because, yeah, there's like in the Web3 games, there's too much finance and so little gaming and so little fun, right?
Like, no less to say like it's replayable.
It's like, yeah, people are more like a labor.
It's like, it's exactly like what Ready Player One is depicting.
So it's like, okay, for the dough alone and just so deprived of the fun of game playing and come on, just to have some real gaming instead of, yeah, just pump it up.
And I don't know, at the end of this, or like the VC scheme of pump and dump.
So, okay, so we create 10,000 SSR and you buy it with a lot of like USD and then you got it.
And we disqualified the SSR, you know, and the SSR just went to, we will reduce its value and it goes to nothing.
So, haha, now you've got the essence of pump and dump.
Like, look now who is city.
And I don't know, I just feel like mocked or the players are mocked.
And it's just not so, not so decent or let's say in terms of the ecosystem that the health of this ecosystem is not healthy.
It's not sustainable.
And people would call this industry like, yeah, scamming industries.
So it's really not a good idea unless you are, you're just someone who want to like a quick hit and run and just get the money and, okay, move to some island and enjoy the sunshine for the rest of your life.
And, well, that's a shame.
And it's not gaming at all, right?
I have a hard tag on that.
Does that, does that not remind you of a Yuga Labs?
I mean, they're, I mean, they got VC funding.
VCs took over and they're just dropping.
Dude, hi.
Every time I look at my computer, there's a new Yuga collection for a game that doesn't exist yet.
So, I don't know.
Maybe that's a hard take.
I disagree with a lot of people in the space on that.
So I try not to talk about it, but I figure we're here.
Why not?
I just, that's what I feel like.
I think when the people are saying, oh, well, they got this guy from Activision that's on their team now.
It's like, yeah, bro, he's getting paid more than his previous boss just to go and say things on Twitter.
Like, dude, fuck yeah, I'd take that job, bro.
If I worked at Activision and got 200 grand a year and some random people came up to me and were like, hey, we'll give you 600 a year.
You just, like, have to read off this script.
Bro, dude, I'd do that shit in the heartbeat.
That's not the person you want to, right?
You want someone, you want, like, a rogue dev that's, like, sick of, like, what's going on.
Like, you want to hire someone that, like, know, like, like, I want to see, like, their resume, like, what they worked on.
And it can't be, like, dog shit in the last 10 years.
If they've worked on a game in the last 10 years, I don't want to talk to you because it's just been garbage.
Just straight trash.
And you know what you should look into?
Because I don't know if you know this or not.
But, and everyone listening, you should look into this.
Look into the past games that Improbable has worked with.
And notice that all of them either have a lawsuit against them or they don't exist.
Like, for example, Chronicles of Illyria was the last one that used the same technology that Yuga's using.
The game literally has, like, four active lawsuits against it from investors.
Which, that being said, like, I hope other side does good.
That'd be dope.
But I just, dude, I'm so bearish on it, bro.
I'm so, so bearish on it, man.
But this is in the Yuga hate space.
So, I just wanted to bring that up because it's interesting to me.
I'm always interested to hear people's opinions on that.
Yeah, it's, I mean, there's got to be an end.
You cannot keep launching new NFTs and then, like, hey, we got some new NFTs for you.
Now it's the land.
Now it's a new airdrop.
Now everybody's got a new airdrop.
And, yay, we got, like, 10 collections of NFTs for our future gaming, which is soon-ing.
When?
Soon.
Just look at our preview.
Come on.
Our trailer is stunning.
Our trailer is amazing.
Our trailer is the trailblazer of this industry.
And, yeah.
But, yeah.
No name-dropping, though.
I'm just describing, so.
No, you're so right about that.
It's like, they spend more money.
It's like NFT, like, when you're launching a new NFT project, they spend more money on
the trailer.
Like, they show you, like, the best image.
It's not even part of the collection.
It's like, they do that.
I mean, they've been doing that for years at, like, E3.
Like, they'll just show you something.
And it's like, you get the game.
I'm like, what is this?
That's not even part of it.
Like, they spent all the time on, like, a minute trailer, like, a two-minute trailer
and none of the money on the game just to get people to buy it.
Because they know, like, once you buy it, it's whatever.
You know, good luck.
Although, you could probably return it.
But it's like, most people don't even bother.
But it's literally just, it's a grift.
Yeah.
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Well, yeah.
So, back to the fun of game.
Gaming, let's see.
Let's just, yeah.
Always stay pudgy.
And we need to be fun, right?
So, what's the best and what's the game that influenced you the most?
Or the character that influenced you the most?
Or even at some point of your life, you used the name of that gaming character as your online AD.
Or you used his picture as your PFP before PFP, the world, even exists.
So, do you have such a game or such a character?
It was Halo, 100%.
I put too much time into that game.
Like, I literally, thousands of hours.
So, Master Chief.
It wasn't even the lore.
I didn't really, I mean, like, you know, the campaign stuff was fun.
But it was more like the multiplayer was, like, revolutionary for its time.
And it was, like, chess.
Like, Call of Duty is always going to be checkers compared to that.
And it was, like, peeling the onion back and, like, trying to be the best at that game was, like, the most fun I've ever had in my life.
Honestly, it was, like, literally the best time.
Like, I don't even think I wasted any time.
And everyone I met that was successful at that game, it's, like, pro poker players.
Like, you know, they're just, like, everyone I met from that game, or, like, they just went on to be, like, top, like, COD players.
Like, they're just literally just, like, chads.
You know what I mean?
Anyone that, like, came from that ilk is, like, super successful.
But, you know, it was because it was, like, just a, I don't know.
And it was really huge back then.
People forget.
But, like, from, like, 2004 to, like, 2010, it was, like, the biggest game.
And then COD kind of overtook it.
But they shot themselves in the foot.
But, yeah, I mean, that was my favorite game.
And there's, like, I liked RPGs growing up, too.
I grew up with, like, a Super Nintendo.
And there was so many, like, Chrono Trigger was fire.
Like, that, like, Super Mario RPG.
I remember, like, the Donkey Kong Country.
Like, there's so many fun, like, platformers back then that you just don't really get anymore.
I mean, it was so simple, but it was, like, also really good.
But, yeah, there's just something, like, missing nowadays.
It's, like, kind of soulless, some of these games.
And it's just too linear.
And I don't know.
But, yeah, I'll let you guys get on with it.
That's why I liked, like, games like Red Dead, like, recently.
I think that was a game that came out recently that was really good.
Red Dead 2.
I think that was a fantastic game because it's not linear.
Well, it is linear, obviously.
Like, you always have the same end.
But there's things you can change and et cetera and things like that that I like a lot.
But I don't know what my favorite game is because there's so many games that I have that, like, I've put thousands of hours into.
I think I want to say Gary's Mod, Gmod, which is a mod of Half-Life 2.
And it's only this because I was 13 years old making Bitcoin, selling people in-game cash in that game.
Like, I was just, like, the goat of making money in that video game.
And so, like, I was, like, a little capitalist.
And I was selling it for Bitcoin, like, actual Bitcoin.
And, man, I have somewhere a fucking shit ton of Bitcoin.
Not right now because I probably wouldn't be in the store spaces if I still had that.
But I like that game because I think it taught me a lot.
Like, it taught me a lot about making money and, like, trading with people and, like, how the real world works, as funny as that sounds.
But it also taught me, like, psychology of people.
Like, the specimen of individuals that play that video game is just, like, fascinating.
Like, you think Web3 people are weird, dude?
That game's got weirdos in it.
So, like, it taught me to trust no one.
Similar to how a lot of people grew up playing RuneScape and learned, like, the Grand Exchange and everything.
And don't trust people.
It's very similar to that for me.
And I got to meet a lot of cool people through that game.
And probably, like, Counter-Strike because I used to be, like, cracked at Counter-Strike.
And that's probably it.
That's probably it for me.
Destiny, too.
But I'm just, I'm, like, cripplingly addicted to that game still.
So, I won't comment on that.
But, yeah.
For me, I would say it had to be, like, Call of Duty 4, like, Mono Warfare.
That game was, like, the OG Call of Duty.
Because it was so simple.
Like, it was just, like, a simple credit class and, like, simple perks.
And, you know, now it's been a little bit crazy.
And they're adding a lot of new stuff and more killstreaks.
But the OG Call of Duty 4 was, like, perfect formula.
They had great maps.
And the gunplay was really good.
So, I really enjoyed that.
And also, I would say Halo 3, too.
Because Halo 3 was just so good.
Like, the campaign and the co-op.
I love it with you, bro.
The custom games.
All the fun custom games.
Griftball, bro.
Play some Griftball.
Griftball.
In fact, they had, like, .com, ML, Jenga.
And they had, like, some really fun modes, man.
And, yeah.
Halo gunplay is also amazing, too.
Because it really took a lot of skill, you know.
You couldn't just, like, two-shot someone.
Like, Malakad and stuff.
But, yeah.
Those two games were fun.
Yo, I had to chime in.
Because Boggs said something about Chrono Trigger.
That shit is my favorite game of all time, dude.
Like, the music.
The composer.
Oh, dude.
Did Wiz Khalifa use, like, those beats?
Or, like, whoever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ricardo used those beats, like, on Cush and Orange Juice.
And I was like, this is the best thing ever.
Like, dude.
Yeah, dude.
I heard that.
Hey, listen.
That composer.
So, look.
Here's a little TLDR on the composer.
Like, he was going to quit.
He walked into the office.
He was like, I'm quitting.
Because he went to school for composing music, right?
So, this dude tells him, I'm going to quit if I don't get, like, to do what I want to do.
They're like, all right.
Here's this game, Chrono Trigger.
If you do it, if you nail it, you're going to go on as a legend and do whatever you want.
So, this dude puts in all the work, right?
Like, hard drive crashes, loses 40 songs, was sleeping in the office, like, six days a week or some shit, had stomach ulcers.
All this crazy stuff happened to him, right?
And he, like, got a little bit of help from somebody that did, like, Final Fantasy and all those other games.
But he pulled it off, man.
That's, like, one of the best music in any game.
Like, the way that it pulls you into the story and everything, just hands down.
If you haven't played it, get an emulator.
Because you're probably not going to get a Super Nintendo.
Get an emulator and play that tonight and thank us later.
It's one of the best.
It's literally, like, nostalgic to play that.
What did you play this on?
What did you play this on?
It was Super Nintendo at the time.
Another good one.
Another good one is Golden Sun on Game Boy Advance.
I don't know if you guys played that.
Yeah!
Yeah, that shit was so good, dude.
Oh, man.
Remember being a little-ass kid hiding under the covers.
Great soundtrack.
Bro, I remember, like, hiding under the covers, like, playing that.
Like, in my Game Boy Advance.
Like, my mom would, like, walk in at, like, midnight.
She's like, are you still up?
And I would, like, go under the covers with the fucking little Game Boy.
That was...
Those were the days.
I do the same thing.
So, bringing it back to, like, crypto with the gaming thing.
Has anybody ever played Second Life?
Yes.
Second Life.
Sounds familiar.
So, like, I got into Bitcoin, like, in the very beginning, playing Second Life.
So, this was, like, 10 years ago.
Yeah.
And I was buying Bitcoin for, like, 50 bucks a piece to, like, fuck around on this Second Life virtual world.
Like, it's crazy.
I can't believe that nobody's done something anywhere near similar to that yet.
But, like...
Yeah, my buddy told me about that.
I never really knew anyone else.
But he said, like, back in 2012.
And he was legit.
Like, he was a fucking whale.
Like, and he was buying Bitcoin on Second Life, like, back in 2012.
One of my favorite Second Life Bitcoin stories is...
I think it's...
Lily Allen was asked to perform, like, virtually in Second Life.
And they were going to pay her, like, I think 200,000 Bitcoin.
And she turned it down because, like, this is the stupidest thing ever.
But, yeah, look it up.
Lily Allen, Second Life Bitcoin.
It's, like, one of my favorite stories.
Yeah, we used to run virtual stores in there and sell a bunch of, like, shirts and clothing and stuff for your character for Bitcoin.
It was cool.
Dude, can you be...
You worked for G3.
You were, like, an intern for, like, Attack of the Shit.
Dude, I got my job at G4 because of Second Life, actually.
It's a cool story.
So, like, I had never played it before.
And I was just, like, fucking around with her one night.
And, yeah, I ran into somebody.
I was, like, I just got done watching Attack of the Shit.
And lo and behold, the person was, like, no way.
Like, I worked for G4.
And I was, like, whatever.
And we got to talk, and sure enough, she actually worked for G4 and, like, introduced me to who we know now as Bonky Donk, who's Gavin, who, like, was the executive producer for Attack of the Show.
And that's kind of how I got my start in, like, L.A.
Was through friggin' Second Life.
That's dope, PP.
Never knew that.
Aren't you at Disney or something?
I am sitting underneath Spaceship Earth in Epcot right now, waiting on my family to get done.
Like, the big giant ball at Epcot.
I'm sitting right underneath there, I know.
Dude.
Nice.
Dude, I just got my emulator out.
I'm, like, trying to find this.
Took me, like, an hour to find it, but I found it, and I'm trying to find this game.
Yeah, bro.
You got to clear the rest of your night, dog.
I'm telling you.
It's just, it's so fun.
And the music, too.
You got to get the headphones, probably, like, you know, smoke a doobie.
Hold on.
Alpha tip, bro.
Look up the MSU mod for the emulator or the ROM for Chrono Trigger.
Watch a short video on it or something, and you'll get the OST version of the music, which
is not going to be, like, the Super Nintendo beeps and boops.
You'll get, like, orchestra-quality music, and it's that much better.
Like, that's why I want to replay it again over and over again.
Is it on Steam?
Can I get it on this?
I have a Steam deck.
Can I get it on there?
Absolutely, dude.
Dude, I use my Steam deck.
I have, like, my whole emulation, like, library on my Steam deck.
Like, it even plays, like, Switch games.
It's insane.
All right, I'm going to do that again.
I'm going to actually play that tonight.
And I'm going to listen to the music of it.
Yeah, dude, you should stream it, Bogfather.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Now?
I got to get a, I got to get a, I'm, like, too busy farming Blur.
Like, I'm just too addicted to that right now.
I just have that on at all times, but I will try to set something up.
Bog, are you worried, like, whenever, and this is off-topic, but you just brought it up,
but, like, whenever they do drop all the tokens to everybody that's farming it right now,
you don't think everyone's just, like, their plans are to, like, instant dump it?
Well, the only thing I can counter that with is I think that they all, like,
you would have to think that the team knows that.
They got to keep the Ponzi going somehow.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, they're not, they're not dumb.
Like, I met the team, but I don't know anything about it.
Dude, like, he, it's so funny, man.
Those guys are so tight-lipped.
I was trying to get out for, like, an hour in New York, and I couldn't get anything.
But, um, I, you would have to think that they would keep the Ponzi going through
some other mechanism or another season.
Or not another season, like, something else, right?
So, um, we'll see.
But you're always going to want to incentivize market makers,
if not through the token some other way,
but some monetary incentivization to keep it going.
Do you think there's a way that we could use it to farm credit tokens?
I don't know about that.
I mean, I was trying to get a rock.
Probably not, it's probably not worth anything.
But, R.I.P.
Yeah, talking about, uh, blur farming, the other day, it was like last week,
a hundred or two hundred doodles were dumping, like, by some blur farmer,
and people were like, oh, my God, what's happening?
And, uh.
Dude, the fact Frank, Frank C. dumped all his, like, a bunch of doodles today
after everyone was calling him out for, like, butting penguins was hilarious.
Dude, that, that, yeah, I can't believe he did that.
I don't know if he did that spitefully.
I mean, or, I mean, it's not even spiteful.
He just kind of looks dumb.
Dude, when I saw it, I was like, I can't think it was like,
I try to put myself in his brain, and I was wondering, like,
what if he was like, you know what, maybe they're right.
I don't know.
In the Chinese community, Frank C. is somewhat the, um,
synonymous to, uh, Top Signal, the same as Steve Aoki.
So, it's like, whenever people see Frank C. or Steve Aoki buy something,
and people say, okay, dump it right now, because they are buying it.
That's, yeah, dude.
Dude, that's amazing.
That's not just the Chinese community, that's us.
China is so based, like, fade Frank C. I love that.
Oh, my God.
Dude, imagine, like, just everyone in China, like, following Frank C.'s wallet
and just counter- just fading him.
Dude, cachet, now that you say that.
Dude, cachet, like, back in the day, like, when penguins were, like,
first getting their rise, everybody was, like, a bunch of CT guys
were, like, in penguins, we have to-
They were kind of, like, the anti-NFT-NFT at the time,
because, like, all the NFT influencers hated penguins,
but we friggin' loved them.
And Frank C. hated them so much, he bought them
and then floored them, like, underneath floor value,
and then he bought a bunch of, like, party penguins,
which was, like, the ugliest things ever,
and tried to pump those in spite of penguins.
And so the fact that he's flooding them again,
it's another boss signal for penguins, man.
Dude, you know that I bought the party penguins before he did that
and I dumped them on him?
I bought them at, like, .1, and I dumped them, like-
Because I'm like, let me just buy all penguins just in case.
And I dumped them, yeah.
That guy, I don't know.
This isn't a pranksy space.
That guy's down bad, man.
But, you know, maybe he can create a new box rug project
and extract another $4 million from the space, you know.
Because that's the only way these people make money.
You know, they can't actually trade or do anything
or provide any actual value.
They just, you know, do a bunch of nonsense.
Watch him drop his wallet address and say,
cash sign pranks he dropping this week.
Presale sent here.
Well, good for him.
It's, I don't know, yeah, people just track his wallet address
and see when to sell.
It's not when to buy, it's when to sell.
How are the Chinese community's vibes on penguins cache?
Do you want to be honest?
Yeah.
Well, it would sound like me boasting myself.
But to be honest, I am the writer of Pudge Daily.
And if you would ask anybody who writes the most
about Pudge Penguins in Chinese,
I guess humbly to say so and also proud to say so
that that would be me.
And since this January, by the way.
But, yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't do it earlier
because, yeah, I didn't buy Pudge.
Like, it's my greatest mistake.
But I guess I'm still a rookie in this business
or let's say in this game.
Hey, it doesn't matter how long you've been in the community.
It, like, depends on your output
and you're absolutely crushing it.
I think everybody in this room would say, like,
you're, like, you've been, like, a light
ever since you joined the community.
We love you.
Yeah.
I join every space that I can.
I love it.
And I just love the energy.
It, like, keeps me going, to be honest.
Thank you so much, really.
I hope I deserve this.
Or let's say I hope Pudge Radio deserves this
because sometimes I get too excited and I stutter
and, or maybe it's just my English isn't good enough
or I need to work on the language
or work on the industry.
I wouldn't be able to speak any Mandarin.
I'm terrible.
I am unilingual.
I'm barely unilingual, you know.
So, but thankfully we got Google Translate
because when I travel, I am.
Dude, I'm barely lingual enough to even know
what unilingual means.
Bro, I was just going to say,
I don't even know what that means, dude.
I just made it up.
Is it monolingual?
Is it unilingual?
I'm not even, I'm an idiot.
So, I don't know.
Hey, you know what sends us to 70?
Barely literate.
Bog, the next time we hear Hedgewin,
we haven't heard him in so long.
Yeah.
Where is he?
He's in the listener, dude.
Dude, like, we need some more Hedgewin spaces
because I'm telling you,
it will light a fire under anyone.
Like, what's the anecdote of Hedgewin?
Because I heard about him or read about him quite a long time.
You've never heard Cache?
I mean, you've never heard Hedgewin?
I heard about him, but I never heard him,
like, personally.
Okay, I will look for a space, like, when he talked.
Yeah.
It's kind of hard.
I mean, yeah, he basically, like, just doesn't,
he's not doxxed, and he uses, like, a computer,
like a program to speak,
and it's any types, like, amazing soliloquies.
I don't know how.
I don't know what that word means, either.
It's like a, it's like a, I don't know, a play.
It's like a long speech in a play, I think.
Yeah, it's like a Shakespeare.
If you go visit London, and you go to Shakespeare Globe,
and you witness, it's a liquid light on the spot,
and then.
It's a guy with the skull.
It's like Billy Madison.
It's a guy with the skull.
To be or not to be.
He said he can't speak tonight, but next time.
Wow.
So, you see, we got Captain Maze.
Ahoy.
And we got Hedge Quinn.
Captain Maze, you are here.
Like, yeah, we cannot.
Come on, you are here.
You need to come on the stage.
We miss you.
Maze, come up and talk like a normal person, bro.
I actually heard Maze talk like a normal person for the first time.
Dude, dude, I never heard him talk like the captain
until I went to Twitter space.
Oh, Hedge Quinn is here.
Oh, my God.
Hedge Quinn is in the space.
Can you imagine?
Hedge Quinn is in the space.
Please, sir.
Can you join us on the stage, please?
Like, you are the Shakespearean penguin.
Yeah, you are the Shakespearean penguin.
Come on.
Come on.
Maze, I was telling them about the rust idea earlier.
Aye.
It be a great idea.
I was alley-ooping you to talk in your regular voice.
No, I knew it was coming.
Aye.
Aye, be me penguin.
And me penguin be me.
This be how me penguin poke.
I really love these theatrical moments, you know.
One day, you know, just one day,
Pudge penguins would go to Broadway and Shakespeare Globe.
Can you imagine, like, a bunch of penguins
in a play of Shakespeare players?
And, you know, all the actors are penguins.
You see, because we've already seen, like, Shakespeare.
Because there are, like, all kinds of Shakespeare plays
in the form of animation or maybe in clay animation even
or, like, and, of course, live-action plays
and all kinds of films.
And some of them even won an Academy Award.
So, it's only fair.
I got a question for you.
I love the...
Are you coming to Vegas, like,
for the Pudgey Penguin toy convention?
Uh, when, like, it's, like...
It's in, like, two weeks.
Oh, two weeks.
Two weeks.
Ah, I'm not sure whether I can make it
because I need to get a visa.
Oh, man.
But, um...
I got my own hopes up there for a minute.
I was excited.
Someone get this woman a visa, bro.
Well, it remembers me one of the days, like,
I don't know, I happen to know
someone working in the Italian embassy,
but it's the Italian embassy,
and he get me a visa, like, within half a day
because he was the one in charge of the things.
And he just told his colleagues and said,
hey, give him, like,
ah, we can use the GIF to give approved.
But, uh, as to American visas,
I think it'll be much more difficult.
But, uh, yeah.
Thank you so much for this, um...
Yeah.
Maybe I should go to,
if not Vegas,
maybe some other real-life events.
But why do you say this?
When I mention theatrical,
like, are we going to...
Are you...
Yeah, there's a bunch of shows in Vegas,
and I was like, man,
like, we're gonna probably hit up
some shows where we're in Vegas as penguins.
So I was like,
oh, well, let me see if Kathy...
Hey,
good, good time to ask this.
When are you gonna add me
to the Vegas group chat?
Are you not in there?
No, no, I texted you and asked you.
He just ghosted me.
Let me check.
I will say,
if Buckets has you blocked,
I won't let me add you.
No, no, Buckets has not been blocked.
I was DMing him the other day.
Yeah, I was DMing him the other day.
Aye!
Buckets blocked me two days ago!
What?
Really?
But why?
Aye!
He be calling someone the R-word!
Oh, he hung up!
He unfollowed me, bro!
What?
Aye!
I were calling him out!
And he blocked me!
Yeah, but the chips, you know,
for the casinos
that he customized, made,
that's really cool, you know.
Because, I don't know,
can we,
can we expect a,
like,
in the near future,
we would have
Pajor Penguin poke,
poke,
pokers?
Poker cards?
Poker cards?
And, uh,
yeah.
Because,
I don't know,
everybody can use poker cards,
like,
yeah,
with family members,
and with friends,
and,
yeah.
this is off topic,
but,
can everyone like
the tweet at the top,
so we can get Will to lick his
Pajor Penguin toy?
he needs 35 likes.
I just,
and if you could retweet it too,
maybe he can do it live on stream.
I just retweeted it,
I forgot.
Dude,
the fact that we're,
like,
trolling the FUD,
it just brings me back to,
like,
good old days,
where we're,
like,
everyone was trying to FUD us.
Dude,
it's kind of crazy.
If you're not with us now,
it's like,
you're,
I mean,
we went through everything,
like,
we saw projects go,
like,
worth 100k,
that,
like,
literally were giving fanny packs
to people,
and,
and,
like,
now it's,
like,
dude,
like,
it's,
it's like,
that's just,
like,
how it is.
Like,
you're gonna,
they're just gun,
they gun for you.
Did you see,
Frank calling him out today?
It was hilarious.
Yeah.
Because he was like,
my dude even put hashtags.
Dude,
I feel bad for his kid.
I just feel bad for his kid.
I just feel like that guy's a,
like,
imagine having a bozo dad.
Like,
that just sucks.
You know what I mean?
Like,
alright,
like,
I feel bad for anyone with a bozo dad,
but,
you know,
it's just like,
hey,
let me go tweet about this,
and not,
if I cared about you,
I'd actually take you to a doctor
and not fucking waste my time.
Let me get my engagement first.
Yeah.
Sorry,
kid,
you know,
you might die of lead poisoning,
but I have to get this tweet,
and I need to get some engagement.
Gotta get the likes up.
You know,
like,
that's,
but,
you know what?
That's just how,
that's the people,
these are our counterparties in this space.
They are inferior.
We are,
like,
it is what it is.
Reminds me of a new GIF idea,
you know,
because,
like,
in the local language,
there's a,
there's a GIF code,
because it,
it's actually a snapshot of a doctor
asking a patient,
how long have you been like this?
But it's so typical,
because in the NF space,
so many people are like,
okay,
it's in some kind of situation,
and we just need to use this,
maybe a penguin in a,
in a,
in a lab coat,
and asking,
how long have you been like this?
Tell me on this part,
where the toy hurt you.
Yeah,
I will,
I will show you,
like,
I will give you,
yeah,
give me some ideas.
A snap,
yes.
Actually,
maybe on an average day,
I have two or three GIF ideas,
so I should probably make an application,
like every day,
and not just for my own penguins,
like,
there are so many,
like,
situations,
and occasions,
where,
like,
for example,
I really love that GIF,
it's,
it's the gesture,
like,
playing three,
you know,
doing this,
stunt,
and play with these three toys.
It's like,
juggle,
juggle,
juggle.
Golden,
you making bacon?
You there,
Golden?
Golden's crazy,
man,
like,
one of the nicest guys I know,
but when he gets on Spaces,
he's a wild man,
you never know
what you're gonna get.
Okay,
so Golden's like a box of chocolate,
what's your chocolate today,
Golden?
Back to you,
I love the Fart Gump,
people walking around.
The Fart Gump reference from Cache,
it's pretty awesome there.
It's a,
it's a killer bear chocolate today.
It's got zero calories,
because the project's gone zero.
Dude.
Dude,
I just love that you changed to him a lady,
and you've been going off.
It's been the funniest arc of anyone on Twitter ever.
Dude,
he hasn't changed,
though.
That's the thing,
like,
he's always been this way.
Yeah.
You're just noticing.
I don't know,
it's just the m'lady,
it's just like,
the,
something about the m'lady,
it's just,
it's like,
you know what,
I get it,
I agree.
I'm all for it.
it gives more force,
but it's not like I,
I'm not a,
like,
it's not like I've changed at all,
I haven't changed anything.
I just,
the m'lady profile just gives more.
The power of,
power of the m'lady.
That Elmer ball cut sale
should help your,
golden ball cut sale,
actually.
Yeah,
I saw that,
but,
I'm really not in a rush,
man.
but I,
I'm,
I frankly thought Elmo would get more for it,
but,
you know,
maybe his situation requires another one.
Yeah,
it looks like he needs liquidity,
like,
ASAP,
for whatever situation he needs.
Because he,
like,
he didn't even let the auction in,
which I hate to see.
yeah.
Dude,
I was waiting for,
like,
later in the week.
I was waiting for,
like,
five minutes before.
Like,
that's what everyone does for an auction.
That's why I don't get why auctions last five days.
I'm like,
make it,
like,
12 minutes.
Or something.
Well,
you can change them.
A two-day auction is perfect.
You can change them, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like,
I hate the week-long auctions,
because no one ever bids up front,
and then it's the last five minutes.
It's just such a waste of time.
I don't know.
Like,
with,
a very good expectation,
with,
high hopes,
like,
sir,
Golden,
are you changing this PFP to Melody,
so that more people from the Melody community will get to know Pudge Penguins?
Okay.
Wow.
That's perfect.
Because,
yeah.
Okay.
Why?
Why do you use that official expression?
It's like,
okay.
yeah,
what a great space we have with,
Pudge Gaming.
And,
can you name off some,
OST that I can play as an ending song,
like,
from Emulator,
like,
if you still remember,
one of the song's names?
Yeah,
Bog,
Bog or Wizard,
what were you guys?
Wizard,
I don't know the soundtrack,
like,
I know that,
like,
I don't know,
like,
the names,
but Wizard would probably know better.
man,
I'm on the spot.
honestly,
I would just YouTube,
Chrono,
Trigger,
OST,
and then just skip around until you find something you like.
Let me see if I can find something real quick,
though.
That would be equally great.
If you can play,
like,
on your side,
that would be more specific.
Thanks a lot.
What are you,
what are you looking for?
What type of music?
it's gaming music.
If you have a suggestion.
yeah,
I got some,
I got some for you.
Okay.
Yeah,
great.
Then we,
maybe we don't have to end it right now.
Then maybe we can,
change this space into a music show.
Just some,
I don't know,
because we were talking about theatrical,
right?
If you are in the theater,
you've got to be,
I don't know,
you've got to improvise.
And,
when you improvise,
you always say yes.
When somebody gave you a suggestion,
for example.
Yeah.
I mean,
I'm not,
I'm not in the theater,
but I'm old.
So I played a lot of the games and I remember the music.
So I would say,
final fantasy three for the super Nintendo.
I would say Zelda on the Nintendo 64,
the Ocarina of Time.
Great one.
Legend of Zelda,
A Link to the Past,
but the final fantasy three is probably your,
your best one.
Final fantasy seven on the PlayStation one.
those are super,
super classic.
Nice.
Final fantasy.
reminds me of a classmate when I was in Baritoire and she really looked like
the girl,
you're not right from final fantasy.
Final fantasy time.
Damn.
final fantasy,
I guess at the time it was final fantasy six.
Yeah.
Yuna was,
Oh no,
maybe they,
maybe they reuse the character names,
but I think,
I think of the one from 10.
She looks like Yuna.
Okay.
You said it looks like Yuna.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Too bad.
I'm married.
Savage.
Wow.
What are spaces?
Wow.
Wow.
Final fantasy.
So yeah.
Do you got the music?
Wizard Pango?
I just linked you to my favorite part in Chrono Trigger.
There's some good stuff right there too.
Hedwin.
Let's fucking go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So bizarre.
Okay.
wizard.
So you,
have you done with the music?
Because it's about like,
one minute.
If that is the case,
then maybe I will.
Can you hear me?
There's a two hour soundtrack on YouTube.
I linked to,
I linked to a piece.
Okay.
In your messages on,
Twitter.
thank you so much.
Then maybe,
okay,
great.
I will play it right now.
Fantastic.
What a great way to end a space about gaming with,
your favorite gaming music.
Which once again,
reminds me one of PP's favorite quote.
Couldn't be me.
Yeah.
I think cash is my,
one of my new favorite penguins.
I know she's not new,
new,
but she's pretty awesome.
from golden.
Wow.
That's really something.
I hope I deserve this.
This is the one that slaps.
That's really something.
you made my day.
you made my week.
Oh God.
Oh God.
Well,
glad.
people,
people really enjoying your presence.
So keep it up.
Really good stuff.
I actually,
I mean,
the daily anxiety of that,
I'm being too obnoxious and I'm just afraid.
Am I too loud or I'm just too,
talkative or.
you're perfect.
I hate Twitter spaces and your spaces are the only ones I try and go to.
Wow.
Thank you so much.
Really appreciate it.
And it's,
thank you for the,
encouragement and confirmation.
Okay.
Let's hear the music.
You have just shared.
It's really precious to me because, yeah, this is not something that would happen every
day, at least not to me.
So I'm really grateful for what you, for your time, for your wisdom, for your stories,
for your passion and for, yeah, for your willing to share.
And yes, Golden, please, sir.
Oh, don't call me sir.
Don't call me sir.
You're the sir.
S-E-R.
Got two things.
I don't know if Hedgequin wanted to talk.
He's a speaker.
I'm not trying to put him on the spot.
And also, that music was pretty good, but it's not Zelda Ocarina of Time.
So you give me 15 seconds and then this is going to, this is going to whip you.
So the best music in Ocarina of Time is Gerudo's Village.
Oh, hell yeah.
Hold on.
Yeah.
This is fantastic.
I love the battles we have.
You see, we've got to battle every day.
Geek battle.
The nostalgia.
I'll find the village.
Give me 30 seconds.
Hold on.
So Adam texted me and said, dude, as you left, Hedgequin came up.
Is that true?
Did I miss Hedgequin?
Yes.
I did a snapshot of my phone.
I can show you right now.
Dang it.
And I was free.
I thought he was about to say something.
And then the minute he come up, the minute he went down.
I guess that's his sound of the day.
You are still here, Hedgequin.
And I love your PFP because you did something special to your penguin.
And that's Apache fashion.
That puffer is great.
Especially matches with your, matches your mask.
And, oh, is that a cigarette you are having?
That's really cool.
Because, I don't know, you look like Zolo.
P-P-Y, what valley?
There's a couple different valleys.
Gerudo.
Gerudo valley.
Oh, yeah.
I got it.
What's the pirate one?
G-E-R-U-D-A, I think.
Yeah, the tall, giant pirate women.
Yeah.
Yes, yes, yes.
That from O'Gran and Thomas.
Banger.
I got it.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
yeah if that doesn't get your blood pumping i don't know what would
that was great thank you so much and um yeah let's um maybe someday let's have a space about
uh to show our favorite uh gaming music that would be wonderful like uh adam and ducuso like
could we see like in the near future we can have a gaming space about music gaming music
oh yeah that would be so funny i'm so down i'm down for anything as long as you're hosting it
i'll be there wow thank you so much and um once again i'm really happy for this space and uh
thankful for for all the things you've shared and um i can't wait to
for the next session and that would be uh on wednesday this wednesday this coming wednesday um
um 8 p.m 8 a.m actually sorry 8 a.m eastern this wednesday so see you again and this is
i'm sorry can i request a exit song oh yes please that would be very handsome i want to get depressed
so can you play the intro song for the first destiny game just destiny intro song
i'd like to end this on a depressing note for me thank you
and then i'm going to go fishing in the new game and docuso is going to watch
because
Yeah, there it is.
Okay, thank you so much.
And it just sounds epic.
So thank you, Adam and Dukuso for sharing with us about Pudge Penguin.
Sorry about Pudge Gaming.
And of course, we are Pudge Penguins.
So thank you, Pudge Father, for sharing your stories.
Because, like, I don't know, in the Chinese community, we tend to think that you are very older men.
Because the epic deal you had with Eric, we thought, oh, how sophisticated.
And he would think of this.
He must be a genius in marketing as well as branding as well as NFTs.
So he must be really old.
But today, from what you've been sharing with us, you are actually so young.
So we are sorry.
And we will make this clear.
He is bending the button.
He is bending the button.
Yes.
Thanks to our lovely penguin.
And, yeah.
However you got the watch idea bug for that trade was a genius idea.
Yeah, it was epic.
And we can't help talking about it.
Like, almost every week, sometimes we would just raise this topic again.
Do you still remember the guy who, oh, actually, do you still remember the penguin who treated
like epic penguins with the epic super rare ape?
And, yeah, still we think that this fun stuff is about this, like, both communities think
like either of you are crazy because, like, how can you treat, like, 10 rare penguins for
a rare ape and plus one rare little penguin?
And then, yes, of course, we see the ripple effect.
We see the chain reaction.
And that was epic.
And so thank you for coming and sharing.
And, yeah, that's lovely.
You shared the story of you and Dukuso, right, that you are actually from the same neighborhood.
I don't know.
This somewhat sounds a little bit like a Martin Scorsese movie, although I don't mean, like,
New York answer or, but, yeah.
So, and thank you, people, for coming up, even though you probably are still in Disney
with your family and things.
And thank you, Wizar Pengu.
And it's lovely to have you.
And thank you, our Melody Bowl Cups, Golden, and you shared your music as well.
And thank you, H-Gwen, for showing us your stand of the night.
And we loved it.
And hope to see more of your shows, like, in the coming spaces.
That's, that's really one thing that we can, yeah, look forward to.
So, yeah, thank you so much.
And I hate to say goodbye, but still, we can see you again on the coming Wednesday, 8 p.m.
Eastern, 8 a.m.
Eastern, sorry.
Yeah, 8 a.m.
Eastern, Wednesday.
See you.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Stay pudgy.
Stay pudgy.
