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PumpFun
Recorded: Sept. 9, 2025 Duration: 1:30:00Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion among crypto enthusiasts, key topics emerged including the rising interest in creator coins, significant fundraising achievements, and the potential for new token launches. The conversation highlighted the importance of partnerships and recruitment in driving growth and innovation within the crypto ecosystem.
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What's your name drops on drops?
I have not seen someone with a clone X.
Legends shouldn't sit alone. Had to keep him some company.
I'm a big fan of clone X.
I think they're going to be CTO'd.
But I think you're the only one representing that brand on the internet.
Just so you're aware.
Yo, Am.
Bro, you're resurrecting.
You're resurrecting.
I don't know about that.
I think we got a huge influx of people interested in the creator coins.
Like, Michael hasn't been on crypto Twitter.
Maybe he has.
We just didn't cross paths.
But him and I used to run up huge spaces back in the day.
Bro, I'm going to tell you right now.
Bro, you're resurrecting CT.
You're resurrecting CT, bro.
Uh-uh.
Yes.
I'm telling you.
I'm seeing.
Bro, I'm seeing PFPs.
I'm seeing.
Bro, I'm going to start calling you the undertaker. You're the motherfucking undertaker, bro, I'm seeing PFPs. I'm seeing, bro, I'm going to start calling you the Undertaker.
You're the motherfucking Undertaker, bro.
I'm telling you, bro.
Creator coins are the Undertaker.
Alex, go to the gym, Alex.
We went.
We went.
I did one second.
No, no, he went.
He went.
I was checking him.
He was pumping.
He was, bro, he was fucking breaking the fucking barbells.
You should have seen him, bro.
I did another 12-hour space, brother?
Yeah, yeah, why not? What else we got to do yeah we got to hear you
and moan about how you deserve credit oh you dude
i cracked the out yesterday i deserve so much credit you know like why is my name in the hat
when we're talking about you know dude no one knows who you are
i get one crash out of here one crash out of here i don't know like to have that persistence and consistency i i think you got it you just got to direct your energy like just redirect your energy
and keep on redirecting until you find it oh yeah man it's crazy i i got a cook i'm doing today i'm
going to a fucking uh my friend runs an only fans agency i'm turning them all on to fucking pump.fun today so
i don't know i don't know if that's like gonna be what he it's like a consulting deal i'm doing
for him you know what i mean so it's like he he wanted he wants us he wants to throw a bunch of girls on pump i'm like all right brother like this is how you do it yeah you know like there's already
all these these cam girls we had a bunch of cam girls come in like there was one that popped
recently but like you know how many others have tried and didn't go anywhere yeah but but it's
like it's like they just they don't they don't know anything they don't like know the trenches
they don't know it works they don't they don, know the trenches. They don't know it works.
These guys don't know how to launch tokens.
They barely know what Solana is.
You know what I mean?
So he's paying me to go out there and just, like, teach him how to fucking do it.
And these girls are fucking pros, too.
So it could get fucking interesting.
Yeah, I hope so.
I hope someone cracks the algorithm.
I don't know man i'm i'm staying away from the whole fucking like like the whole shit myself because it's it's a it's a very fucking deep
dark road to go down but it's like fuck man if he wants to pay me for some consulting
fucking i'm there you know yeah i think there's actually a lot of that of like hiring talent to stream there
like they don't know it they don't know how to figure it out but they can put they can put the
puzzle together like they can find someone like you to help direct it all i don't want to get i
don't want to get into the dirty side of it because it's like because if if i end up you
know what i mean it feels so scammy to me like you know what i mean it's like pump and chump
you know one you know it's like i have a you know i have i have a i have a you know some morals to
uphold i guess you know but you know if he wants to make some money doing this and blah blah blah
then i'll fucking i'll show him like what a solana is you know what i mean and like
like pretty much it's like it's like onboarding but in a weird way we got vayner here never met him before uh cliff the gully never met them before do you have
live stream tokens The topic is to speak. Don't worry. You have a pump fund?
Yes, yes, yes.
I have it, of course.
And you live?
You're live now?
Not yet.
Why not?
But we can build it.
We can build something.
No, no, no.
Get on stream.
Come back when you're on stream.
And show your shit. Okay. Done. Yeah. Get on stream. Come back when you're on stream and show your shit.
Bye.
It's you.
Yeah.
Next up, Cliff the Gully.
What's up?
You got a pump?
Yeah, yeah.
I bought the Pup Fund shit last night.
I'm still holding on to it, seeing what it does.
I think the whole streaming on Pump Fund is a brilliant idea.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially if you like a hustler and you you have an idea as far as content all you really got to do is map your shit out
make sure it's just it is it's first to move outside of everything else that everybody else
is doing and you know the money will come in you know because data is the new currency and you know
people consume that shit 24 7 365 so it's like if you got a good idea you know what i mean and it stands
out from everything that everybody else to do doing and you're first to move man you can you
can make a lot of money in a very short period of time that's what i'm saying someone if the pump
token i'm fucking full porting if someone figures out this algorithm of streaming,
whether you're a viewer and you're buying the streamer,
like you think that streamer is it,
or you're the streamer,
I mean, a lot of transfer of wealth going on here.
And we heard earlier, you know,
they raised $600 million in 16 minutes.
So there's a lot of fucking funding here.
There's no other funding anywhere else in the space.
Maybe Hyperliquid, but what are you going over there for? What else is going on
in the space? Nothing. You know what I'm thinking? A content house, right? Another content house,
but Superbase in Columbia or like Board 8 or GZone 8 or like there's so many.
Why are we not – why do you think no one's doing that?
Mike, why do you think no one's done that yet?
Wait till you're replicating Bass House.
Who's replicating Bass House?
That's your question.
Why is no one replicating it, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like we had – Shit, that shit's yeah, yeah. Because we had one.
Shit, that shit's hard, bro.
It's expensive.
It takes organization.
It takes leadership.
That shit is not easy, bro.
Like, I mean, like, you don't have to be all out with what they're doing.
If you want to have five fucking run pump fun, if you want to get the sponsors, if you want to get the eyes on you.
if you want to get the eyes on you.
But if you want to just get out there,
like you got five people in your hometown,
all come under one house.
You don't think it'll move anything.
No, you're right, though.
You could definitely just start something simple,
start fucking just making clips, making content,
go from there.
And if you all are like good creators and consistent,
then obviously you're definitely going to catch steam.
I don't disagree with that at all.
You think you'll actually catch
Steam, though? Let's say you do do
something like that. Do you think you have the capability?
Because they got Jakey pushing for it,
Steve's pushing for it, I'm pushing for it.
You got a lot of people pushing for this base house, but
do you think if you're not on a big team
and maybe your accounts
in crypto Twitter, they don't have
accounts? Some people are new to crypto Twitter. I don't have accounts. Some people new to crypto Twitter.
I don't think Facebook cares at all.
I think they care about role character, role talent.
Are you good on camera?
Are you entertaining?
Are you going to keep viewers?
How much of those viewers do you think transfer to buyers?
I think that depends on... It about 10 oh really 10 of viewers yeah that's like
the usual that's like the normal conversion rate of most like that's usually like traffic that's
what you want on like social media posts too right if you get like 10 000 impressions you want like
a thousand yeah dude so i used to run like five to ten thousand dollar ad spends a day
back in like 2013-14 for like these like you know it was just it was just a product you'd sell you
you'd have whatever it may be and it and if you got like 10 000 impressions a thousand would click
and a hundred would buy so you would if if you got a hundred conversions and those hundred conversions uh equaled more than
what it cost to reach those 10 000 then you just spend as much money as possible as fast as possible
for as long as possible to spend to reach those 10 000 new 10 000 people and it's just an infinite
money glitch i've never been to la i'm just watching this clip from Razzler hit my timeline
And he's just like whenever someone approaches him
He gets on all fours and starts like crawling at them. Like that's what he's doing
That's what this clip is. Is that all LA is like just people trying to become famous like walking down the street?
That's a bad clip of Razzler because for years he's done regular crypto content like that's just one degenerate clip you're looking at
Yeah, no, I think Rasmus good away does but it feels like that's all I'm seeing on my timeline are just people in LA
Walking down the street and trying to have funny interaction with other humans
So that's that's just what you see on the internet. I've been here my whole life brother
That shit doesn't I'm in Manhattan Beach. You don't see none of that shit LA. No, that's just what you see on the internet. I've been here my whole life, brother.
I'm in Manhattan Beach.
You don't see none of that shit.
Venice is just known for that.
People have a weird perception of Los Angeles.
It's pretty dope.
There ain't no fucking... It happens, but it's not like all the time.
And if you're in a good area,
you don't see any fucking simps
or people trying to do that shit.
It's not like that. you don't see any fucking simps or people trying to do that shit like and it's not like that you don't see like any guys if you go if you go to trashy ass venice where i never go ever because it's a piece of shit fucking part of los angeles yeah you see
all this fucking want to be fucking famous people all the time but if you go to the right places
where people actually have lives that know how to fuck around businesses and shit. They don't give a fuck about that, dude. Don, were you at the LA house? Which house were you at?
Yeah, yeah. I was at the LA one. Did you walk down the street of LA
and just interact with humans? A little bit, yeah, yeah. How did that go?
I mean, I feel like lots of of people just kind of doing their own
thing you know like unless you you're offering them something or you you know you got something
interesting to say and lots of people just keep on walking you like try to approach them with a
mic and a camera like hi hi like what would you do to suck a golf ball out of
an ass like something like that yeah no i mean no no actually i didn't go around interviewing people
um i i did a little bit when i was in new york but not not in l.a
then what'd you do in l.a i was playing runescape no but i know you're doing more than just playing
video games you had to do something else.
Yeah, well, I mean, okay, I thought you wanted the joke, man.
I mean, like, I was doing interviews.
That was real fun for me.
I was doing some gambling.
Do you have any clips of your interviews?
You said what?
Do you have any clips of your interviews?
Actually, I don't know if there's clips.
I did post them to X, but I personally didn't go through and clip them, no.
You suck, dude.
You suck.
So you don't have any video footage of you doing interviews?
No, I got video footage, yes.
Where's that?
Is it on the timeline?
Yes, well, probably not now because it's months ago, but yeah, I could pull it up. Yeah, pull it up. I want to see it. Because that's what I think. Yes
Is that what people do to make it in world like you go to LA grab a camera and Mike and just start doing interview
Yeah I'm doing that shit Nashville fuck LA bro
Yeah, you like you go out there with like a soccer
ball and you kick a soccer ball at them.
I mean, we've all seen the one where they have the basketball
and the basketball hoop.
Oh, yeah. Wait, that is an easy one. Damn.
Yeah, it's like
that's what everyone does. No, I'm actually
take that. I'm going to kick a soccer ball at somebody and I'm
going to just ask them about
unemployed questions.
Have you got any buyers from that?
I got buyers from my drive-thru pranks.
I did like two drive-thru pranks.
Can you pin it to the top?
Yeah, I got you.
Oh, here we go.
Oh, you're interviewing Soul Jakey?
Dude, that doesn't count.
I'm talking about people on the street, Donnie.
Oh, I told you. No, no.
I didn't record
interviewing people on the street when I was in LA.
Dude, this shit's actually funny, bro.
Y'all gotta watch this.
Yo, Alex, you know
what I think is gonna kill? If somebody figures
out a way how to do the streaming
on Pump Fun and actually break
it up into, like, episodes.
I think so, too. Like, turn it into, like episodes i think so too you know like turning into
like a netflix series exactly where you're not exactly doing the same thing every single episode
because you can walk up and down the street every day and interview people eventually people get
tired of that shit we are in the hyper attention economy which is crypto you know what i'm saying
what's interesting five minutes ago nobody's gonna give a shit about in 10 minutes. You know what I mean? So it's like if somebody figures out a way to do it in episodes,
you know, where people are actually tuned in every time they stream, not only will that,
you know, keep obviously the revenue coming in from the streams for the earner, but what it'll
also do, it might actually drive value to the token because, you know, people always want to feel that they're part of something. And a lot of times,
you know, we used to say, you know, if you've been in crypto long enough, they say, you know,
the utility is community, blah, blah, blah. People will buy the token and tune into the show
just to sort of be a part of it. You know what I mean? And then when they're really going to
kill the game is when they take that show and then they start turning it into merch,
and then you got to use the tokens to buy the merch. That's when you really start cooking.
And that's when you start to get attention from some of these other companies that may be interested in your skill set as far as how you would set up that program.
And that's where you really you know, that's where people are really going to crack the code.
That's where you're going to really start to see the value behind what Pump Fund is doing.
Three, four weeks ago, everybody was screaming, oh, Pump Fund is dead.
Oh, they're going to get taken over by Bags and Heaven and all these different and Bonk and whoever so ever.
Where do we still go every single fucking day if we want to make a quick buck?
Yeah, those people saying that are just competitors, in my opinion.
The people are like, oh, yeah, Bonk is going to take over.
That shit was crazy.
There's no mindshare on these things.
There's like, there's certain individuals that shill it.
Like when I saw bonk, like it was like these old Salana KOLs
that like, if you didn't know bonk was just airdropped
to collections, like, and the collection founders
were the people that were like the investors.
And so they just airdropped it to themselves,
but they called it like this community airdrop.'m like all right you just dropped like this arbitrage
collection no one's ever heard of 10 of the supply like that's what they did they got good supply
control it's a good idea and they gave like a little bit to like the real communities like
d gods didn't even get there so i was like that's the biggest community on solana um like liberty
square was a huge community at the time they didn didn't get it, but they claimed to get it
like, and like whatever. Right. And so I see all these OGs on Solana fighting like pump
fun calling it extractive. And like, you guys are the biggest extractors on Solana when
we're talking about this, like all you people that are shilling this bonk bot shit like i don't want to drop name but so poor tom like come on guys like these guys have
been on solana forever but you know it's like that everywhere man anytime there's there's
innovation or there's like a new kid on the block you know the ogs are always gonna fight it like
oh what is he doing there what is he trying to do you know what i mean it's all it's all you could
you could apply that situation to just about anything. Anytime somebody comes in with
something new and improved, that's really, really killing it. The people who've been here longest
and established, they feel a little slighted and it's not even that they feel slighted.
It's just the anxiety from competition. You know what I mean?
Yeah. And that's what we're seeing with these live streamers. They won't even accept these
new live streamers. They're like, accept these new live streamers. They're like
Oh, you just got here. You're looking to extract. It's like dude. I'm just live streaming on pump fun. Just like you are you live
Are you live and then you're just extracting like how is my extraction different from your extractions?
The craziest conversation is that everybody's like oh, you're just here to extract you're here to extract. Yes, motherfucker
I came to make money.
What the fuck?
What do you think I'm here for?
Why do most people come to crypto?
The thing is,
you got to build something
to be, quote unquote, an extractor.
You're doing a stream.
That's not extracting. You're doing a stream, and people are paying for it.
I don't understand.
I think we got to rephrase
What the fuck an extraction is?
Because it gets like such a negative term terminology on what extracting in it. I think I think it actually
Like like we had that big apex streamer in here earlier
And he was like he didn't really say it but he already felt it
Like I hear in his voice is like man Web 3 is already kind of gatekeeping and I just you know, I just got here like
We're not inclusive at all
You know, we're not gonna bring in the best talent because of this and like pump fun for it like coming up
And making it was surprising. I was like it's getting caballed out right now
Everyone's saying it's shit. I'm like this is the best best product on salon I've ever seen like you guys should be cheering it if you guys
actually you know all you people say you believe in Solana well then you guys
should be pushing for the real protocol and slot and they didn't and that's why
I really like pump fun they did it without the backing of nobody they just
went out there put the best product on mark and it worked for a lawn mess like
like 10 15 20,000 people in private dms getting told to
off the whole time before it blew up dude that dude deserves respect for sure
i'm a big fan you know like people say it's extractive and because you got fees tied to it
i might build the best protocol on solana add fees It's not like they're rugging out peas like you can do on other
Platforms, you know like leave if Libra was around
Well, that's funny Libra did come out and it wasn't on pump fun
And that whole Libra event could have been avoided how we launched it on a LP that can't be fucking drained like that
But you know people want to say fucking pump funds the problem. It's just competitors. It's just competitors saying this problem
radium
Who was the genius that talked about, you know, making me
And using something like a store.fun to create an
honor and for token e-commerce who said that
I mean the idea is you need to create immediate utility with the tools that
exist if you're gonna create a pump live because the
token inherently has no utility other than buy and hold and no one can hold because everyone's
diamond hands looking for the extraction play to you know sign up and sorry to snag that volatility
moment on a launch and pray that the the person that you know buying from is going to send past
migration that's what we're seeing with all these launches is that everyone's just speculating and the person they're buying from is going to send past migration.
That's what we're seeing with all these launches,
is that everyone's just speculating.
And that's the goal of speculation until you create adoption.
But the second you come out the gate and say,
yes, you can buy this with my token.
Yes, you can advertise on my stream by burning my token or whatever the mechanic is.
There are immediate layers that
you can be utilizing and create some sense of create some sense of value before having to make
content and if you have all these levers checked off or this checklist you know checked off now
you look like somebody that's trying to leverage the ecosystem to purvey rather than just create royalties in real time.
And that's sort of, you know, we need like a signup kit, right?
Like download the suite of packages or a thread to post to that, you know, enhances this ideology
because the more people that see that there are tools like the bots on OBS that you can implement, Nightbot to run moderation,
or the uptime commands that you want to put in there. Pump needs to evolve, obviously,
in the direction of legitimizing. We talked about that earlier this morning,
but the creators also have to know what tools are at their disposal to get that exposure
get that exposure and to offer
and to offer more than just the content.
more than just the content.
We got Trev in the building.
Alpha saying was glazing you, Trev, when you
aren't around, but for some reason wants to fudge you
when you are around. I don't understand the guy.
I'm not kidding. I'm like, he was like, yeah, Trev's
the best we've ever, like, just going off
about you. And then when you're here,
he wants to shit. Maybe he's trying to, like,
psyop you and motivate you or something. I don't know
what he's doing. Are you ripping ass right now?
No, they're doing construction
right next to me.
As Jake would say, did you just
fart?
Can you hear that? You can hear that? Yeah, it sounds
like you're ripping ass on the chair.
No. We got a hothead in here.
Salami bits. Get up
here. Because
I haven't seen one of those in forever.
You guys are familiar with the hotheads?
The hotheads. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're a hundred piece auction collection
on Salina. They got their own little
cabal. They're like the wannabe boogles.
Like when you're priced out of boogles, you go with
the hothead.
I mean, it's still expensive. Don't get
me wrong.
Maybe he'll come up and speak.
I think he showed up when I started talking about
bonk stuff. He must be a
bonk supporter. It's those
people that are bonk supporters.
So what is it? All the apes are going to come to Solana
to extract Solana? Is that what's happening?
All the bored apes?
If I see any of those the apes are gonna come to Solana to extract salon is that is that what's happening all the board apes If I see any of those board apes
I'm writing a truth
We do auditioning bro look princess came pull up Trev you ready you ready for this bro
Travis a judge. Oh
Who's a judge?
Trev how much does Superbase need to pay you get you in the house?
Bro, nothing bra get in there, bro
They I think the opportunity to just be in there like in the environment. I think that's worth a lot cuz like
Bro, you see how dedicated
Did I am just by myself.
Like, I wake up every day and I'm consistent with the same energy and the same interest
to create content.
So, 100%.
I think it's just a good opportunity.
You see, Alex?
That's the vibe that I'm talking about.
That right there.
I know.
You see? We were talking to some other people that I'm talking about that right now you see we thought we're talking to some other people No, I'm not not me like
But there were other talks and stuff and they're like, well, how much am I getting paid?
And I just want to hear what Trev would say. He's like, I don't I don't need paid
I just need it. I just need to be in that environment. He knows he's gonna win your truck. That's a game
Fucker that maybe that's why don't put you in there trap
They're like you you're gonna just're going to take over the whole fucking house
and it'll be the Trev house, you know?
I was going to say, Trev, why don't you call Trojan Condoms
or Blue Chew
or something that's a brand that's affiliated
with the kind of sin
audience you kind of garner
and have them put you up in a house
with other creators that kind of do the same thing
instead of trying to get
into the base house, right?
Hold on, but why is it going to get the base house badly?
I don't think...
It's not. It's not. No, it's not bad.
What I'm saying is
if you're rugging,
but if you were going to be in the base house,
I think that the opportunity came.
I don't know if it still exists,
so why not get your own crew together, right?
I think 100%. I kind of am. I'm trying to, at least. I got my friend Trey right here.
I'm pretty sure you met him, too, when I came over to the base house in LA.
Good dude.
Yeah, so I'm building a team of people and stuff
like that but like i said like uh putting myself in an established house where there's already like
content creators and like there's that energy there i think that's really good
yeah that's that's that's gonna make it attitude because i was talking to other people
about doing like something like this and they were just like oh you know like i was like okay
we'll cover flight housing and food and then they weren't about it and i was like okay and what's
gonna happen happening is they're just gonna price themselves out like that's what that's what
everyone does that's what pisses me off about his audience
Like he wants you know 30 million dollars and i'm like yo, you're you could kill it in this shit right now
Like yeah, it's not proven at the moment that these live streams damn dude. Can you hear this?
This is it's fine bro. It's fine. It goes with the lord. Oh, oh, okay. Okay
Okay, okay. Well, yeah, like people like Azadi who I think would be are cut out for this shit like a content out
Well, yeah, like people like azadi who I think would be are cut out for this shit like a content out
He has like a fucking graffiti mansion
And he ain't gonna do it because he's pricing himself out and you hear you can't price out
Trev when he says I just want to be in that like I'm like you don't need anything
No, I just want to be in the house. I'm like like that's the level of competition you're going into and I think that's what scares
The old heads they're like they only do things for money
Like they ain't getting out of their bed unless you pay them ten thousand dollars. Where's books that?
I got infusions in the building. What do you think about?
Me auditioning a few heads to get them in the mutant infusion house, bro. I don't think that's a that's a far-fetch
This is something that we can we can pull, bro. I don't think that's a that's a far-fetched This is something that we can we can pull off bro. I know I'm you in infusion house you would do yes
Is it even legal though to do something like that like have the yet don't you need him like on a payroll like what's the legalities behind
Does anyone know no you're giving you're giving them housing. No, no, a contractor, bro.
They're freelancers.
Yeah, you're also giving them housing, and you make the exchange very clear.
It's like, yo, you get the roof over your head.
We'll put resources guaranteed.
No, you kick them out at 8 p.m., 9 p.m.
You kick them out to go to their own place, bro.
No, you get like a five-bedroom or whatever.
You get a camera crew crew in New York City
What by the cloud house the cloud house in New York City?
30 days nobody can kick you out
So these motherfuckers are gonna be you know, no, no, you gotta get up
You know, you're pulling up pepper
Well, guess who's gonna rent you the
Let's get it yo, I need you to send me I need you to send me a few options
For me and Alex Google rhythm to make sure I got a sick option right and for
Lauderdale it's eight bedroom one point. No, no, no, no, we're not going that far back. Oh, come on
Oh, we hear we're gonna do it over here
Y'all don't why y'all want to be in New York? Yeah, but we here?
Yeah, but we hear ready bro, then we save on the flights, but you know what I'm saying like bro, we gotta make it work So I think that I like that
What all right, so you do hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on before we go too far with this fucking idea
You do a content house. How the fuck does that?
Transfer to chart go up volume go in like is that actually gonna do something if you do a content house
Like this Alex. Yeah see what they got going on right now stream-a-thon mafia thon. What do you think they're all doing?
They're all in the same house streaming all for one goal just to gain subscribers if we sit in there streaming every day showing a chart what we're doing and
giving it like a good narrative and you know what i mean it'll go endless endless options it'll
show on all these people on pump fun i promise you all right bankroll how much would you need to
stream how much like money yeah no money man as long as you got it set up, bro, you can make fucking shit.
Dude, I'm on the same page as Trev, bro.
Just get me in that house and I'll hold up my own.
You're trying to get to the super-based house?
Yeah, bro.
You see how I am behind camera.
You haven't shown me in person yet, Alex.
You know what I mean?
But you could tell, bro, we would take shit the fuck over.
This community is unreal.
We have different types of people that target all different types of communities. So, bro, we would take the fuck over this community is unreal We have different different types of people that target all different types of communities
So bro, we shut the fuck down
That's what i'm saying with like super bass like tapping into different communities what they should do not just
Hyper focus on one community add someone from there add someone from there like be inclusive
And I think that's what they're doing. I'm i'm really interested on on the trev side of things. Did they talk to you at all?
I'm really interested on the Trev side of things.
Did they talk to you at all, Trev?
What's up, Alex?
Did they talk to you about the Super Bass House?
Have you talked to them?
I know you went out there.
Dude, I've DMed Jakey and Steve about it, like, I'd say, like, a month ago or whatever.
They just never got back to me.
I know they're busy, and they mentioned that the other day, but, yeah, no, I just—
They haven't hit me back up. I'm waiting for the talent show. Hopefully they had me back up after the talent show
So yeah
Are there a lot of people where you're at on the street doing like street performances?
You said street performance. Yeah, there's a lot street performances in LA
Which is all day it's happening all day you got spider-man you got borat you got wolverine you got elvis you also got other people like the the dude that's like roller skating with
his guitar you got the dude that's live painting you got jugglers you got break dancers the list
goes on how do you stand out when you have that much competition well i mean
they're not streaming on pump fun right so it's like um if anything trev can go and be like yo
i'll give you xyz 100 bucks just to let them have you join their stream or their their their
performance and do a skit do you think that equates to buys on pump one live stream tokens
if if it's live it's kind of like maybe but i think the post-production and clipping it and
you know bringing in collaborations do do more right so like you know for example if trev and
i seem were to go down to the boardwalk and join the jabbawockee wannabes
and then pull the mask off at the end they're like who are these awful dancers right and then
they pull off the mask like oh what a great performance high five like that would go nuts
right it doesn't have to be you know standing on a chair in the middle of a restaurant screaming
you know a profanity or pretending to do something that's of shock value
it's just like fitting in into the world and then like that's why based does so well
is because the content feels organic and it just happens to have a punchline
i gotta lie jakey is actually one of the most He's one of the best
At like
Just connecting with the camera
Making it feel personal
Like a FaceTime or some shit
He's so likable
Yeah
In the instance of Jakey
I feel like he's loving
I want to punch Jakey in the face
But I'm saying in person, you won't.
He seems very relatable, down to earth.
I can't stand his profile picture.
Stand next to him and change your opinion.
I promise you.
I promise you.
Before I met Jakey, I felt Jakey was a little Hollywood.
And I'm from LA, so I know what Hollywood looks like.
And so I was like, oh, maybe he's just kind of affected by the culture, but then you literally meet him and it's like, wow, my, my
opinions of him went out the window, right? Like he's just so personable. And like, I'm sure some
of you have been around really big talent in your, in your careers or in your life. And you get that
aura from them. And I'm not using aura just to be trendy here. I'm being, I'm using the word aura
because star power, it factor,, it's a real thing.
And you can feel it emanating off of an individual,
especially when they have conviction on what they're doing.
And I'm not trying to glaze Jakey, but he's got the aura.
A hundred percent.
I wish they would have ran this talent show up
because I think a lot of people would want to get involved in it.
They are, but just run a bigger campaign on it.
You could get the whole space jumping on this shit.
It just means everybody's got to share it and repost it
regardless of participating.
I think that they also launched it
before the announcement of the creator royalties. And that was also maybe a little too early to do it.
If they do it again now, if they were to say, hey, like, we're doing another round of this,
and then everybody here and everybody interested, shared it, commented, and it actually blew up,
you know, people would be signing up. And I know personally, because I had
to send the message directly to people that I thought qualified that are now on the roster for
the next one. Right. You got people on for season two? Well, yeah. I mean, I brought Miri into the
base house. But as far as like, how do you know Miri? I know Miri from just joining spaces and the way that I know you, Alex, right.
It is like, I raised my hand.
I took, you know, I had a base take that people seem to resonate with.
And then I kind of started showing up more.
And now I would say that I'm somewhat of a regular, um, there.
Uh, so it just takes, it just kind of takes raising your hand and getting in the conversation.
I'm based in LA, yeah.
You see, like, Alec, I wish everyone would do what Alec does and just add value.
You know what we have a problem with in Twitter spaces specifically?
Like, if this space goes to, like, 200 to 300 people, you'll see, like, the same fucking KOLs in crypto Twitter that are just gatekeepy as fuck.
Sitting in request and like
DMing people like yo get me on that that speaker panel i'm like nothing you added drove the conversation to find it interesting
You're gonna come on the fucking speaker panel try to make it about yourself
And if not then you're going to fud the speaker panel like it's a goddamn lose lose with these people
I can't I don't that's why i've been getting so many DMs lately, right?
I've never gotten so many DMs in my life.
I don't like.
Thankfully, people don't look at me as an entry point to your spaces.
People, you know, if anything, DM me on the side being like,
can I get some advice on how I can improve my stream?
Or what should I do to kind of stand out of the crowd?
And, you know, one of the things that I recommend most is raising
your hand with a question in mind and asking a question and saying thank you and leaving,
right? It doesn't have to be park your ass on the stage and or a farm. It's come in,
ask a question that can start a conversation, add your opinion on it, say thank you for your
feedback, and then do it again next week, right? Like for example, lucky shots today, he's somebody I brought from web two to web three. Right. And he's now streaming on pump fun. And I
onboarded him to soul flare wallet. And he had all these questions and I was willing to answer
them. I think too many people don't want to take the time that it takes to onboard. They just want
to resort to content. And it's like, no, you got a handhold. That's what it's going to take. And
that's why I said to Trev earlier, you know, doing a collab with somebody you have doubt in,
like the category will only open up your horizon and your ability to garner a wider audience
that actually pushes you forward towards your goal of legitimacy. So that a brand like Logitech
wants to call you and say, hey, we see what you're doing with the creators, you know, around you,
you know, we would love to help, you know, do that at a larger scale by putting you on on the Logitech side of things, right? So it's just it's symbiotic, just like the fan relationship to the creator now is symbiotic from their earnings potential. It's now the creators have a responsibility to put on other creators. And that's what the clout house was. That's what phase clan was. And, you know, early days of FaZe Clan. And by the way, people shit on me, call me a scammer for having worked at the FaZe Corporation, right? Like I worked for the CEO before, you know, banks took it back. So I know what works and what doesn't work. And one of the things that worked really well was shifting from the contracts to just the moniker. You will not get paid to fly the phase moniker.
It is now simply just a blessing for you to do so.
So looking at it like using each other as a launchpad
is how we should be moving forward,
not PVPing each other like they're meme coins.
I don't think we get that far, Alec.
It's so PVP in crypto.
We're going to...
I know.
I know.
Mm-hmm.
Like today, I heard you brought Lucky on.
And he's already said he's being kind of...
I don't want to take him out of contact, but he said something along the lines like...
I don't know if he said gate kept was the word he used, but he was like...
He kind of...
Were you listening, Tim?
Do you know what i'm referring to well i mean give me a little more context and what um the the
sentiment was and i'm happy to to give my opinion he was like i'm streaming apex legend and i'm not
even getting a shot on pump fun yeah it's because people on pump fun like the distribution that
lives there they're looking for the next runner and that's not the goal the goal is to take Lucky's audience from twitch and bring them to position them
in the lucky chart and then let discovery happen and his argument was
kind of like yeah they subscribe I think discovery can't happen I think
discovery can't happen if the platform itself isn't known by mass people that's
like that's the way everyone knows like twitch and kick and that's why they're so popular because everyone knows them when you
go to twitching or tiktok and instagram no one knows the words pump fun no one even knows what
the app is no one's scrolling on the app for entertainment go to tiktok and go to the live
page and how many gamers do you see no no no i'm not i'm not saying gamers i'm saying to propel this space board and
actually get the name out there right you can have gamers and they can be successful and i and i do
think that they do add to the platform as a whole to make it more credible sponsorships etc right and
i do think that they're them bringing their 60 viewers over how whatever followers that they
have to twitch and kick and i do think it does bring community, but I'm saying to get bigger community and to keep on growing,
you actually need people to know what the site is.
And that's where like,
they're telling them not to show their tickers,
just a link.
Yeah,
I know,
I know,
but they're both,
they will,
they're both processes of growing,
just both at different stages,
right? And one needs to happen before
the other. And like, we need these people to know the words pump fun and know that it's an app for
crypto and you can watch entertainment before we get all of these gaming streamers and et cetera
on there. Cause TikTok is a very established platform, Twitch, very established platform
within the normie basisity basis right it's not
like twitch blew up from only only from gaming it blew up from plenty of things but i'm saying like
to get people to know what the site is i think it's gonna take i like everyone's doing right now
irl content because whenever you look at instagram tiktok or the most popular apps what are what are
the videos on there they They're IRL memes.
You have all these creators doing funny things. That's your algorithm.
No, it's not my algorithm.
It's like the new age of culture, right?
And that's what I heard someone say.
It was like, yeah, this is the new culture, right?
It's not like playing video games like how it's always been.
And I think whoever is kind of early to that culture of people and
Sure, you guys may not understand it. It might not be your guys's algorithm
But I promise you it's every young kids algorithm and they're not gonna grow up watching video games
Everyone watches entertainment and those dopamine spikes and watch flashing lights
And I do agree like I said like for the 10th time I agree with video games
But to grow pumpFun as a platform, we need people to know what the platform is itself
rather than to get these gaming streamers on there.
And I do think gaming streamers can help the site grow.
That's what you're not saying.
I do think it can grow.
But that's in the later stages after PumpFun is already known by people.
You know what I mean?
But going to the discovery page on PumpLive, you see a bunch of iphone vertical 9x16
selfie videos nothing's produced and a lot of that takes up the main page if the discovery
shifted to categories where people can just natively go to where they want to look and view
then you would see that there are an influx of gaming creators that can also inspire other
gaming creators and IRL creators.
So let me ask you this. I want to ask you this simple question, right?
So for someone brand new starting on PumpFun, they don't have any existing community on anywhere.
They don't have a Twitch streamer. They're not anyone, right?
Which one do you think would propel not only the coin, but the platform easier and better a gaming a streaming of
gaming or someone outside doing shock value content which one will grow the
platform and which character will have a more success of the platform we're
talking apples and oranges because being able to like just go live it's a simple
it's a simple question no hold on hold on hold on no it's not no it's not
because 9 by 16 selfie video of any any old person doing anything is
Isn't what I said shock value content to go need shock value content for people know what it is. Well
What was the dude who's trying to get an RV shock value? No, it was just wholesome, right?
There's different types of content that people are compelled to or compelled by and i think that the best thing you can do is
make the front well there you go like a professional perspective was he only gets 50
of his subscriptions on twitch and he's trying to change that with pump fun like twitch is eating
into like you know and then now he doesn't need to go parabolic on pump line like he doesn't need
to extend into the billions he just wants his subscribers when they subscribe he gets a fair
like you know he doesn't get taxed 50 that's what his so i don't think like people like him are even
caring about the viewers the market cap yep they only care they only care about they only care
about their people who are the 60 people beforehand getting in on the lucky chart at 12K in six months time when there's adoption and people are looking for gaming creators that they either recognize or have highly produced content in that category will say, hey, this guy's slowly been moving along.
He's been dated.
He shows up.
There's trust here.
It's not like he's going to go and turn around tomorrow and turn off the camera like the two girls on the stream.
You gave me an example that was to my point, right?
I asked, look, if a creator that has never started on PumpFun, and for example, was an RV guy.
That guy has never started a PumpFun live stream, some old guy.
And he had better chances of blowing up the site rather than a gaming stream, right?
So what I'm saying is IRL content is a lot better.
No, not blow up the
site, but I'm saying like he got some motion on there. He bought his RV. He had like a thousand
live viewers. Some people were talking about him on Twitter. Jakey reposted him, et cetera. Right.
So he got some motion and that's through live content. It wasn't through a gaming stream. He
didn't hit a, he didn't hit a quad headshot on apex legends and get clipped and get posted on
Tik TOK and a dubstep at it. Right, right? Like that's not a real thing.
To grow the fucking site, you need real content. And you gave my point. Like, yeah, look at the guy on the stream. He's a character. He's not some guy in his mom's house with a webcam on Apex
Legends. It's an actual guy that we can resonate with that can actually help grow not only his
coin, but the platform like it did. And the platform helped him grow so I think there's a difference between growing and in transition of
Bringing new people onto the platform and knowing about the platform in general between gaming content and IRL content
And I rock a boat by the way mind you both are needed either way
Both are gonna happen
But one needs to have argument around the argument around the content is irrelevant
It's not about the content. It's about the organization and the legitimacy of the website itself
Oh, no, no, no brother brother brother brother. No, no, no, it is about the entertainment because listen
You can incentivize all you want but if the incentivization isn't entertaining then no one cares about it, dude
They want to be the next fucking YouTube kick twitch, right? You can incentivize people with a dollar value
You can incentivize people with a dollar value, but if it's not entertaining
Listen if it's not entertaining then people aren't going to come to the platform like it there needs to be genuine
Entertaining content and that's that's as simple as it is we don't need more gaming streamers on pump fun we need more i show speed kai sanat's live viewers just like you said yesterday
or just now like that guy in the rv like we need more people like that that are live figures that
people can like resonate with and watch rather than it and i do think live streams of games are
very good as well but i'm saying for pump fun to grow right now
Because none of these normies on tik-tok Instagram that a normal demographic of humans know the words pump fun
Or even know what the fuck it is, right?
So we can't think getting mass adoption of apex legend streamers and on all these twitch streamers is gonna make the site grow
We need actual people to know what the site is
And that's as simple as it is.
We got books in the building. What's up, books?
Books!
Libreta!
Dímelo, papi!
Mickey Mouse! What happened?
Donde tu eres?
No, but I like what Lucky said. He's like, he doesn't give a fuck about Where you are? It's like mutual in my book whenever I listen to him He's like I got 60 to 100 viewers that I know will come to any platform. I take him to
And I'm thinking about pump fun
But you know, you guys are so gatekeep II I might just stick to twitch
You know, you guys are gonna just shit on my life because I'm fucking streaming on pump fun is what I'm thinking
That's what I'm thinking is going through his head. Like why even come off twitch?
You know, they're just gonna shit on me anyways
And I'm like I want him to come over right because he to bring the 6,100 people that aren't into fucking pump fun.
And then whenever they get tired of his ass, they're going to see fucking Trev out there doing crazy.
They're like, oh shit, sell Luckies and go to Trev's.
That's the reality.
So I'm like, bring on the game, boring ass gamers.
And then we're going to be in a casino again.
No, like I said, like you just said, bring these boring ass streamers I didn't say it that's where it's from Alex's mouth, but it's like look to grow the site
After those come after everyone already knows what the site's name is and they're watching content on it
And then they can choose the category. Oh, I like gaming streams
They have gaming streams on pump on now
Let me watch that but to actually grow and have people
know what the site is and the name and what it's about we need these people on tiktok and instagram
who don't even watch gaming streams and said meme content and stuff like that like meme coins
didn't blow up from gaming i'll be completely honest like uh like this space needs to grow
through the actual idea rather than a product of it first
yeah mean coins blew up because of pumped up fun so i think the name is fine it's just showcasing
the ecosystem that they've built out on the live streaming and how you can maximize value there
right so really you think about these streamers,
they're brand building
and what they're good at playing games.
So the deal is, is like,
how do I maximize my value in brand building?
Just like you, Trev,
just like everybody else in here,
we're all a brand one way or another.
And the deal is,
is how are you going to maximize that value of that brand?
And Pumped Out Fund has noticed that and noticed how successful the live stream was before they
closed it down and said, hey, we need to build this ecosystem out, incentivize it and build it
up because we might have the next version of what we would call TikTok or YouTube or Discord, but with financial gains that are very extreme.
You know, Mr. Beast, you think about
what he was getting paid and what he gets paid.
It's because of what, how powerful he got
and valuable he got.
And people started throwing money at him, right?
Now he has a candy bar at a fucking convenience store.
I just saw, I didn't know that.
Three dollars. And books, are you there?
You know what I'm saying?
Yo, yo, I'm here. What's up, bro?
My bad to you. Books.
I missed everything. Oh, you're good. You're good.
If you were to get into a content house,
how much would you need paid?
Yo, so when it comes to that world, bro,
to be real with you,
you're making an
investment social investing so you don't necessarily need to be paid what you need to do
is believe in yourself believe in the people that you're getting into this with before getting into
it and then the money will come that's how i look at it like it's like with me and you bro
when we first started doing spaces and doing things, did we get paid?
Did we ask to be paid?
Did we ask each other for money?
No, we believed in each other, and we supported each other, and it ended up paying.
So you would do a content house.
For instance, Superbase, you would just go out there, and you don't need paid to go out there.
No, no. super base you just go out there and you just you don't need paid to go out there no no if i was to do my own content house i would pay to get a house and shit we could even raise
money for something like that and start building for me to go to someone else's house and build
their platform up and take my community there i'm gonna need to be paid i don't believe in them i
don't support them or anything like that bro like on on some real shit. Oh you we gotta we gotta we gotta remend that bridge, but
We'll save that for another day. So you but but if okay, so if you wouldn't need paid essentially though
That's what Trev was saying. He doesn't even need pay. He just wants to get in the house
He's like shit. Just put me in the house and I'll win
He's right though listen to And I'll win
People that want to go to the house but they want
Don't think about it, you're gonna bro. They're gonna want it their way, bro. If you able to do it
Yourself and that not have no fucking restrictions. That's the way to fucking make it happen, bro
Well, it's
Alex you have so much value
Yeah, no, no, but it's like if you go to pump fun, right? Where's Azadi at? Azadi?
Azadi like I tell him like yo, you should get a stream going but he wants 30 million dollars I'm like that you just you're gonna price yourself out like Azadi you you if you just if you just stream for your fucking lap
your your desktop it'll work but
Probably a bad example, but for the most part a lot of people just price themselves out and they don't even get to see what happened
You know you make a sacrifice three to six months and
You know that 30 grand you wanted to be paid that 50 or 100 grand you wanted to be paid
You know that three to six month sacrifice you made you maybe made it back ten or twenty fold
That's how I look at it. But again
If I'm going to go
to a place where there's
no viewers, no nothing,
and bring all of that,
I'd rather build my own.
That's how I look at it.
I'd rather play the same game
those people play, competition.
They tried canceling us because they looked at us
as competition, so I'm going to be a thorn in their side.
I'm going to start streaming, take over,
get mad fucking views, blow up.
I think he'd love to compete.
I think he'd love to compete.
It's not about competing though, Alex.
Think about it. Yeah, it's not about that, bro.
Why would I fucking want to
join something that I'm going to have restrictions
when we could do our own
fucking house, get our own
sponsorships and make
Triple the money. I think you go further as a team. That's all that's all
As it's that's what he's saying. That's exactly what I'm saying though, but our own team
I could say I I don't mind like I'm like I'm like fucking Beetlejuice
Fucking Beetlejuice.
Fucking say my name.
I'm going to be real with you, bro.
If those guys invite you to their house,
it's because they took Stacey thinking my viewers were going to go
and they didn't go.
They're just poaching people.
That's what they're doing, in my opinion.
They're poaching people, and it ain't going to work.
It's because they need you.
No, but bottom line, I'd rather do our own thing. We have Azadi. He has a graffiti mansion, I that's because they need you know
We have a Zoddy he has a graffiti mansion, but he will not be doing pump on live streams
Nope, you need thirty million dollars. Yep, you know home real quick. I see princesses hand up. I don't know if she's here or not. Yep. Yes, I am.
No, that's fine.
That's fine.
I've been, I've not been in spaces for a long time.
It's one of the first spaces that I joined.
Just, I just wanted to give like a little piece of advice to Trev.
You know, if you join something, yes, it's good for like your exposure and stuff and you, you have to start somewhere.
So if you can take that opportunity do it but then also keep in mind that okay after this what am I gonna do with the brand
or the image that I've painted for myself and how I portray myself and how am I gonna get money out
of that I think it's important to have a strategy after that because speaking out of experience I hosted a bunch of spaces on Twitter I
got paid for some and then I got kids so I I didn't get the money out of it that
I wanted to get out of it or potentially have out of it so if you're gonna do
something yes you need to you know build your image build your your brand and do
all of that stuff but then also have a strategy for okay
What comes after that and don't just go wherever the wind blows, you know
You need to actually sit down and think about okay. This is what I want. So, um, that was just my little piece of advice
Nope
We got to get a graffiti.
Oh, hell no.
We got to get a graffiti live stream.
We got to get one going.
I'm going wherever the wind blows, dude.
I'm like fucking, I get to raise these tiny little fucking arms I got.
The wind blows.
I'm like fucking that chick from Titanic.
So take Rose, you know, take me there.
You know, come on, Jack.
Hold me.
I'm going gonna believe in
it i'm gonna believe we're going to fucking 18 billion market cap you know like sell me a
fucking dream i think it's possible the graffiti mansion i don't think they'll fund it but i think
you could do it i can do a lot of things i could i could learn to tap dance you know i could i
could learn how to dance i could lose weight you. You know what I mean? I could make that choice today.
That's a decision that
I'm fully capable and within my control.
I could buy an SVJ.
That's also something I could do today.
I don't know if everyone here could do that. Could you just go buy an SVJ?
There's a lot of things I could do.
I could get fucking ignored
by CT.
I mean, I do that.
You could buy me a new camera to stream with, dude. That'd be crazy.
Yeah, that's not happening.
But maybe, here's an idea.
If you become a chick and you're really cute and you're both sauntering to your fucking TikTok live stream
and just bang galaxies until you can afford a fucking camera after you're done getting raped by fucking TikTok for 60%.
That's one way it could happen.
You'll trick on heroes.
Got it. Yeah, dude. I'll fucking trick on fucking the Starbucks barista and then it's fucking nothing I
was a pimp for fucking a decade you know I got to give back to the community
you know there's your ticker what the fuck but I can't get right now what the
fun alright can't wait to trade you for fucking 18 minutes and then it's over you know think about what happens after fucking nothing fun hey you know despair you know
disrespect but but i feel like if if pump fun does take off and you're the first ones there you're
gonna get the first market mover advantage like i don't think pump funds really taking off like we
had mid-month that kind of pop obviously you had uniform unicorn
fart dust was done in a different market i don't think you'd get that same uh price action in in
today's market and then you know what i did last night bro just for fun i was just going to uh pump
fun right and i was looking i did call an influencer a guy named m to the k who used to send it early
days of pump fun streams
and he'll create characters and he'll just like be an indian call center guy one day or like
whatever and he would just like and like he really worked hard at it and he made like almost no money
i was like bro it's so time for you to come back because i can't wait to trade your shit but i was
just watching people spark streams last night and i was like okay i'm gonna trade this one this looks
real and i was like looking at the scams that were going on and like the restreams of like
other content that wasn't theirs and I was like getting the lay of the land for
like how this is going I think it's gonna be a great thing to trade because
like people are looking for right now it's like the meta and if that increases
you know it's like an amazing thing to trade I mean that's for sure you know
there's a lot of pressure every time I come around like fucking you do it I'm
like no no no no
I want trade you doing it. You know what I mean?
Okay, we got Bowski and Steve joins Bowski if you guys aren't familiar with
Dallas dot fund founder they did a mate. They're doing amazing work
AI 16z launching there you probably heard of them, but you know bouncing with these creator capital markets coming around
I was thinking the perfect Dow would be to just invest in every single creator that launches every single live
stream the the CCM index has anyone done that yet yeah there's a guy who's doing that they
launched a chat so you can actually buy it right now it's actually I don't know it's hard to trade
stream to I think it's fun to trade
stream tokens but you can't hold them you have to like sell them when the stream ends
like you know i don't know i'm you know i've been trying to trade them but it's just like you know
if the streamer stops streaming it's just like it just goes it's just nukes it's hard though
because like what i've seen on the on the flip side like, on the, as a streamer, kind of, like, as their career progresses on pump, like, a lot of the guys, their tokens will actually drop as they pop stream.
So, like, Nevergoon will be at, like, 800, 900k, and then he'll pop stream, and he'll go into, like, 600, 700k, and then, like, we'll put up a banger video the next day and it'll go right back up to
900 K.
So it's like tough.
Like it's,
it's,
it's,
it's going like,
it's,
there's nothing really too definitive yet,
but on the newer tokens on like,
like,
like,
like ones that are just like launching.
Yeah.
Alex,
are we not doing this meeting right now?
Should we just do it here?
We can just,
I mean,
we can do it here. Your badge is gone. did you get rid of your badge because you plan on joining
the network no it did my badge disappear no no it's still there still there still there you got
a click on a picture Steve no they they you know well they had a like Ika I don't guys saw that
caused a huge liquidation on sui, and Sui Lin got
hit by it yesterday.
So I was like, oh, shit.
Are you going to get rid of that badge if you join base?
Yeah.
Do you get paid for that badge?
That's a lot of questions, Steve.
Is that too personal?
I mean, it's not like-
No, really?
Really, Steve?
What are we doing here, bro?
My role in there is an ambassador.
I'm an angel investor in them.
So I'm a big believer
in them.
Are you going to join the base network or no?
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out
if I can get in the house.
Whoa!
I've been a manager before.
Can I step in here, Alex?
Do you need a manager for this meeting?
What?
Do you need a manager for this meeting what no
I'm a grown man 38 years old I could do my negotiations all right Well, I'll have the entertainment business works, but I mean
You're leaving Columbia. Every time you say you're going to join the house, it makes you feel less and less like you're coming.
That's the big draw, is going to the house, working with yourself, working with Jakey.
Yeah, I could stream from Columbia, but you get the resources in LA or Vegas. I think it's in Vegas now, right?
I mean, yeah, each side is different.
We're actually building, the bucket for the network is
filling and we're actually starting to fill it with quality names and quality stream like potential
streamers from the space so it's like by the time all of a sudden done after this first round or two
like it's gonna have reach of like two all together it could have like around two million followers on x like the like the real
reach and so it's like being in that network is going to still be valuable because like again
based what we did what we're doing we're top on pump's priority list when it comes to like
their little children uh that are like leading this initiative this initiative. And because it's a strength in numbers play in this early meta,
it's garnering us attention that we normally wouldn't get individually,
like from Kraken, like OKX.
There's things that we can push here and we can do here
that are becoming way more apparent as we add more heads under the umbrella
um and that's why like being in the network is just as valuable because like we want that to
be just as strong if not stronger because like but yeah the faces and the vlog and that bullshit
will come from the house but the network is going to be the people that just cover the timeline
across every single time zone so you know if
you don't want to leave colombia you don't have to but i can't believe you actually do like i
i still think you're trolling me no don't leave i'll be on the next flight steve i'll just
find the top streamers in colombia and take the latin american share hang on he's talking to me
i'm talking to steve I'm talking to Steve.
I get everyone to be my advisor in this scenario.
But look, I see what Superbase did was incredible, right?
And then, you know, like first season, everyone laughed at him.
I laughed at Steve.
I was like, ah, Steve, you're just fucking screaming off into the fucking abyss, you know?
But now, you know, they kept on going, kept on going.
Like the work ethic is there.
The consistency is there.
And now they doubled down on them, right? Pump Fund has doubled down on what, kept on going. The work ethic is there. The consistency is there. And now they doubled down on them.
Pump Fun has doubled down on what Superbase has done.
So I see they're a legitimate team and just working with them.
But I got to be in person, Steve.
What am I going to do?
Stream by myself in Columbia?
Is that what you had in mind?
I mean, I was going to put it in your hands.
You could do what you're doing here on Pump Fun with all these people and continue to run, like, these spaces.
But, like, that's the beauty, again, that someone – many people have mentioned, like, Pump Fun's different because you can bring people on stage.
You can bring a shit ton of people on stage.
But then, dude, if you did IRL shit on the streets of Columbia, I know that shit would pop.
With your energy, your attitude, that shit would go nuts.
Yeah, I mean, we would go to where there's a lot of girls and talk to them, and they're very pretty.
Sorry, we're doing construction where I'm at.
Yeah, I know that would do well, right?
I know that would do well, but I need to be with a team is where I'm at, Steve.
Would I have a team in Columbia then?
If I can't get into the one in Vegas, would there be a team in Columbia?
I mean, your team would be you, but for the new ones in L.A.,
if you're serious about coming to L.A., I'll talk to Jake today.
I'm 100% serious about L.A.
If I don't get into the L.A. house, I probably wouldn't do live stream, to be honest.
I'll probably just watch it speculate on it and that's
just fine with you can't do that we like we really like I'm not gonna lie me and
Jake are pumped about a show and so good yeah and I know it do this best like I
would be able to do my best work working with you guys and if not it's not it's
not that it's not that it's not that I'm not gonna hold a grudge I'll still
support what you guys are doing so don't take it that way i know that i know that
i know that i just can't believe i didn't think you actually even columbia was an option yeah of
course it is like what i don't i i love it i didn't know i didn't know i'm just but i see what you
guys are doing like you guys are gonna in my mind like you guys are gonna break the internet with
what you guys have set in plan like you have now going to, in my mind, like, you guys are going to break the internet with what you guys have set in play.
Like, you have, now you got, like, a team, and then you have Pump Fun on top of it.
It's just no-brainer in my mind.
Like, you see Trev, right?
Trev's here.
You know, he's already kind of made it here on Pump Fun, and he's trying to get it.
Like, yeah, I'm sure you got tons and tons of people trying to make it in, right?
And so you guys are put in a tough position.
But you got, what's up, Trev?
Yeah, I just wanted a question for Steve.
When looking for, like, the base house,
future base house members,
are you, like, looking for existing,
I guess, content creators,
or are you only searching for new talent?
Like, ideally,
I think there's two kind of, of like ways to put this question because we're not necessarily looking for existing tokens we're looking for
people and net new tokens like obviously we want people that have done content before at some point
we're kind of okay like when it comes to existing tokens like it's like a 50 50 it's like
we have to really feel it out but i think the goal of our goal and really what pump wants us to do
is bring in net new tokens because i think like what they like yeah i want to go recruit people
in names that people already know on CT like Alex but like they kind
of saw the whole like what we did what I've seen and never good and like they're like oh keep doing
more of that because the net new stuff excites them so does that make my chances of joining the base house less slim i guess not really not really because
like or just like any creator in general like if they if they have like a token already like
and they're and they're well known does that make them less possible and their chances less likely
of joining the base house because i get what you guys are trying to do right you guys are trying to
like find new people and i guess pump funds are trying to do that as well but within like a realm
of an existing content creator that is already established and like has a coin and already has
like a established fan base right that wants to join they would have the same equal opportunity as
someone brand new like to be honest yes it's just that our it's their opportunities just as equal.
It's just our, like where we're putting our initiatives.
Like if, if we end up talking to someone that has a consecrated,
that already has a token like yourself, it's on the board.
But like, we're like, that's, that's more of like a Jake thing as well.
Like he'll like bring it to me and we'll talk to him.
But like where my head's at is net new.
Like I'm just wanting that new.
Like Alex, like I'm just wanting net new. Like Alex.
Like, I'm trying to convince Alex.
Like, I'm like literally a door-to-door, like, religious salesman.
I'm just running.
I'm like literally in every single person's DM, sending voice notes, sending messages.
Like, what are you waiting for?
Jump on a call with me.
I dare you.
Launch the token.
Just hear me out. give me five minutes like i'm trying to convert people to this thing like it's a cult religion
you see but alex you're presented with you cutting up a little bit dude in colombia
no one is taking care of the latin american market for crypto i mean
i get everyone should be a shilling villain manager advisor
The chicken beneath us and he said make Spanish content and make it lots I'm saying I
I personally want to do just Mexican streamers because there's no Spanish crypto really.
Personally want to do just Mexican streamers because there's no Spanish crypto really
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Yeah.
Passport bros.
Passport bros.
Launcher right now.
Yay.
And I'm telling you that market share has not been tapped.
Alex, you're in Colombia.
Go grab the eight streamers in Colombia.
I get it.
I know where I get it, but I just know like as an individual, right?
As an individual, I'm not going to make it.
I need a team.
I'm an old man.
I need people to help me get through the doors, put my walker in front of me.
And that's what I need.
You guys are young.
I'll be your token tennis ball.
I got you, Uncle.
Doing what you're doing here right now on Pump, I think there's so much value there.
And it's like, you know, i think that's what it is like the whole
like most of the team stuff that's happening in la is like the participation in the vlogs
the fucking events the bullshit the the the the content you have you have a camera crew
do you have a camera crew there yes see that same thing you guys have like cameras you guys have editing like you guys have it already set up you guys have everything you guys did all the hard work and then i just get
to come in there and be a retard like everyone in the network is still gonna have like access
to the things that are like digital based like the editors the clippers uh you know, the accounts, you know, the access to, like, the network,
like, the external, like, brand partner network that we're building,
like, aligning with Solana Foundation, aligning with Kraken, aligning with Phantom Law,
like, all those opportunities are also going to be in the bucket for the network.
And it's, like, again, like, it's cliche, but a rising tide lifts all boats.
I think even, like, I think you should, like, I'll talk to Jake about getting you.
Like, I didn't even know that was on the menu, you coming to LA.
But, like, I think you should do it no matter what.
But I'm going to talk to him about it.
But I still need you to do it no matter what, bro.
There's so much opportunity here, especially if you're early and you have a face and name like you and a voice.
That's my thing about you is like, you can exist on Pump Fun without even showing your face, not saying that you shouldn't.
But like, you have a great...
What the fuck is that doing, Steve?
No, what I'm saying is...
I can exist without showing my face?
No, I think you should.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
Prove a point.
He said it, he said it, bro. He said Yes, I think you should still show your face, but you have such an internet radio, like show, podcast, your voice and your energy.
People don't have that shit, bro.
So do it.
Let's talk about it.
So we're doing auditioning right here.
Let's fucking go.
Alex, we auditioning right now.
We're going to Columbia.
If you're serious about the lives, they have 69 out an hour.
I think everyone should take advantage of that like that is a no-brainer
But for me, I'm an old man and I need people helping me like that's that's just where I'm at in life
This sucks getting old guys Bro, you're like fucking 30 so you're 38
Oh 30 acres hit my problem on the
Don't get a twist I'll knock out any one of you in web 3 When there's a reason why a lot of Steve back out of salon Steve was supposed to fight me guys he backed out
No, I did not back down
It's spicy bark meta backed out bit boy backed out I got got the dms. I got the dm bit lord backed out
I got the end. So it's not just you steve. It's a common occurrence around here
Everyone says yes, and then when I'm like, all right, let's go and then also
Hey, I didn't back down. I didn't back down
Who said they're running up
You gotta be
I'm coming after contenders not chicken tenders, right?
Alex you can never say that I never I'm out of weight class I Don't You guys
Mike
Tyson
Didn't hit them I didn't who's
You gotta get out their system or else they don't know how to act.
Steve, how did you ever land the initial deal?
That's probably what everyone's knowing.
How did you get Pumped On to sign you?
Oh, the original Pumped On?
Bro, I literally, the minute they brought back live streaming,
we were in Bali at the time.
I literally just was like, Jake, they're going all in on this.
All in. They brought it back for a reason let's like we always want to do a content house i was like bro let's do a house where
everyone in the house has a token and it sounded crazy when when that was happening it's like a
month after fucking libra and i'm like bro let's launch a fucking house let's partner with base
every single person there is a crypto live streamer every single person's got a fucking house let's partner with base every single person there is a crypto live
streamer every single person's got a fucking token and it's literally creator capital markets
so that's like the first time it came out and i was like let's picture the pump i know this is
what they want and the minute we got on i kid you not the the minute we we did the whole thing
the first thing out of Alon's mouth was,
yeah, I can already see this thing doing season two and three.
Right there and there, I was like, they were so aligned.
We were like two shifts in the night.
We knew exactly where they were perfectly.
And when the shoe fits like that,
it almost feels like
you're inside on their team like with vision mission goals like the brand vision the platform
vision when you can align like that like that like you're in and we aligned, almost picture perfect from the first Google Meet.
And from there, it was just building the road and getting this show on the road.
That was it from April on.
And then we launched June 1st.
Yeah, it's great.
You know, it works out.
Your vision works out.
And now you got an influx of people.
Did you have this many people trying to get into the house the first season?
Hell no.
It was crazy.
I almost took it.
I was in the running.
I was down to like the last four people for like one of the major ICM jobs at Solana Foundation.
As this is all going on.
Like, because I just knew I could do both.
Like, not both. Like, I I just knew I could do both. Like, not both.
Like, I didn't know this was coming in.
Like, what we were already doing at Superbase
with, like, Jake and all the events and shit like that,
I was just going to take an ICM job.
From, like, 2023 or 2022 to like 2020,
like late 2024.
It was already like that for me with them.
So I was already kind of doing that,
but I was like,
all right,
let's just make it official this time.
Cause I like the meta,
but then this thing,
whole whole thing spun out.
It was meant to be that that didn't end up working out.
And now you probably have too many people wanting to get into the house
like because the fact that donnie i'll tell you who gave me a speomer donnie he's been my instagram
no not again i'm like donnie can do it i can he said if i don't make it in the house then he's
gonna make fun of me and that's what i'm trying to also avoid getting made fun of dine's like
yeah i mean i got kicked out but at least I could get in like you weren't even invited in I
Don't know if you got kicked there and I'd be shows connecting on my screen
He disappeared
Oh my god, we got tiny we got Donnie in the fucking building
What's going on, Millie?
I just wanna say, bro
If there's anyone in charge of putting Trap
I what?
No, no, I call it baby
That the fucking content, bro
The content that would come out of that shit
Would be fucking crazy, bro
Like, he already turns up super hard
So, like, imagine taking that up to, like, another level
With production and everything
You talking about for Trap? Yeah, bro turns up super hard. So, like, imagine taking that up to, like, another level with production and everything.
You talking about for Trump?
Yeah, bro.
I think it would go wild.
Like, viral.
Yo, Alex, do you actually want to live out in the LA house?
Yeah, dude.
Like, as a team, having a professional editor there, like, professional cameraman, like,
and, like, the perk, like, just working as a as a team oh you go way you go way way further i know like he said like i could do it from columbia and film and we get good content but it just wouldn't be the same like i could you know
like we would get good content they would back me up through the network but not having like a
cameraman there not having like someone else to bounce ideas off of like i'd be out here soloing it
which is i mean if you guys can pull it off more power to you i just think i gotta look out i look
at this it's not easy right if this shit was easy everyone would be fucking trap you know everyone
would be uh mitch like everyone would be that this is not easy i know i need a team like i need a team
going in there and like super base already got it figured out they already got the house figured out
they got the fucking editing figured out they got the house figured out. They got the fucking editing figured out.
They got the pump fund back.
They got so much shit figured out that why would you not try to take that opportunity
if it was given to you?
Go in there.
No, they got the goddamn construction there still.
So you got the, if I can't beat them, I'm going to join them mentality.
I'm not trying to beat anybody, Michael.
I'm just trying to work with people.
That's all I'm trying to do.
I know I can help.
I know I bring skills to the table that will help them.
I know they bring skills to the table that will help me.
But at the end of the day, I'm not trying to compete with anybody other than myself.
That's it.
I don't want to compete with Superbase.
If they don't let me in the house, I'm not going to be like, oh my God, they gate cap,
blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, they had to do what they had to do.
I respect them.
I think they're doing great things.
I think they're going to onboard a bunch of people to be my exit liquidity.
They're going to onboard everyone for me.
I'm like, all right, you guys can do the heavy lifting.
Once they have a huge audience built on PumpFun, then I'll consider, because right now you're going to be streaming to like 20 maybe to 100 people max like what that's the biggest issue i have with pump on right now
you go on there and make really great content and you're probably better off on kick or twitch at
the moment but if you get something like super bass to onboard the masses then that helps everyone
that helps me that helps everyone that's streaming like i think the best part about the low viewership is that creators are forced to create good content, quality curated content, or else you're just going to have very little viewers.
So I feel like it is going to drive quality up, and we'll see it pay off in a few months.
Do you know what it reminds me of kind of no no this whole conversation uh you remember augmented labs
you gotta not give us a rewind on it yeah it's just like uh kaiju kings was a derivative play of cyber kongs and dots uh piece shit um was able to uh
have basically like an open rug factory because they called it augmented labs and so like
we they they launched they will help you launch a project and we'll help you launch a project and
we get to help you launch a project and we get to buy the bottom of all those projects and like you
know like it was like totally socially acceptable for them to
just make a ton of money on pumping dumps basically uh for the entire like you know
bullish season i mean if there's a chat um for the super based early buyers if i could be added
to that i'd really appreciate that so that i could snipe every single new creator that's being signed. Sounds like a great fucking time.
Sounds like a great chat to be in.
You know, that
would be sick if I could be added to that
early investor into
the new signed based house
member. Okay, bro, no one that's in the chat
ecosystem. Yeah, you're good, bro.
Save it.
What? Yo, no one's here. Steve left,
bro. You're good.
What is your point, Michael?
Because I was being serious.
Yeah, I know.
None of those people that are in that chat are currently here.
Oh, okay.
Well, I'm just saying I'm not pandering.
I'm just saying it would be great.
Alex first.
You know what I'm saying?
Alex first.
Alex first.
Then, you know, like I'm going to do nothing
I'm not going to stream
Alex first
The whole crew is here
They don't miss a space
They sit in other listeners
They come up when it's time for them to sell something
Or sell themselves
The whole crew sits in other listeners
They just all flood in here
They get topics
I'm going to mend the books and Steve Bridge.
I'm going to mend it.
They learn here.
They talk here.
I think if books gives Alex what he gave him in Vegas and reenacts that for the talent show tomorrow, he's in the house.
There's not an amend, bro.
There's not an amend.
There's not an amend.
Poop ceilings.
Are you familiar with Solestee books?
I know he is. That's the one that was saying that he would
beat you up and he wanted to box
you or whatever.
I think I commented
that Alex would rip your fucking
head off and I think he blocked
me or fucking did some weird shit.
No, it was all just like
marketing at the end of the day, you know, because like
I have like beef with D guys. Not really.
But, you know, that's how they pitch it.
I got beef with D guys. I'm like, hang on a second.
I was just keeping it real though.
If you versus
Steve, Jake, Frank,
and the person of their choice
in that community, I think you'd rip
all their heads off at the same time.
That's my personal opinion,
you know
all right let's get back to the convo man pump fun no no i want i want i want books and steve
hey michael for the second time in a row derailing two really rich guys up here talking
why don't you shut the fuck up no i just want i want books because i know i know i know like
that would be a powerhouse in crypto like books ste Brooks, Steve, Jakey, Zoddy.
These connections are broken for no reason.
They're actually broken for no reason.
Not because...
I don't...
Yeah.
Bro, our fucking Zoddy house will go fucking ham.
It will be fucking huge.
Bro, we will fucking take over the whole motherfucking crypto Twitter.
I think that it will be fucking hugeucker It would go bigger than crypto twitter
Like if we got that to that level
Of collaboration and working together
It would be bigger than crypto twitter
But I just don't think we're going to get there guys
I just don't think
It would start off outside of crypto
And then it's the one
Stream that would start
Outside of this space and bring people into it
It's the only one
And we'll bring back on-chain activity
We'll bring back the traders, it'll be fun again in crypto
Because right now it's boring
Right?
What else do you guys want to have?
Can we skip a camgirl meta, bro?
Hold on, Michael's talking, everyone stop
All the rich people be quiet
The guy that got the co-host never seen
He's talking. Hold on guys. Oh
Lee you're on the dead bro. Damn
No, bro, I just have a problem like it's a fucking like allergy right?
Okay, I fucking sneeze and I start crashing out with motherfuckers that don't have stars on the roof start fucking interrupt the people who do
fucking crazy, it's like a fucking
Every time you debate right deal
Would you say
Bro, gonna flex the bands every time bro, this is a bottom
This is just the bottom of the money. I'm not gonna be your fucking friend. You guys I'm only here for the money
I'm here to dump on your fucking head every time Wow
That a boy. Yeah, this isn't fucking
2021 NFTs fucking when guys start talking like Michael bro sell it all there's gonna be
Charity spaces. There's gonna be ladies night. Let the ladies talk right when they you got
I'm just telling you you're the back of the room. It's your first bull market the more guys like my who talked
The sooner you gotta fucking sell
Everything what the fuck what are you gonna do about it nothing?
Hey, I've been here since 2020 bridge hill. Yeah, but you're still fucking interrupting me
I told you I got to write when it comes to like weird i was like michael are you really gonna take that from azadi bro you're really gonna take that
hey bro you gotta like sometimes the aunt gotta have his lash out tom on his twitter space bro
i'm saying yeah i'm a professional crash out it's like way better than being a community
crash oh i'm here i'm here
I'm here like 90% to wait
For the crash I mean that's why I come
Just to be like
Makes me giggle
I like it
Trev should definitely be in the house
If Trev had the
Backing of Superbase
That shit's gonna send
Tell him to show up there bro they. They're going to hire him.
They're not going to
put Trev in the house because Trev's a threat.
Yes.
You really think so?
I agree.
I think they have
requirements from PumpFun because PumpFun
did fund them that they have to
just know. Because I don't see anyone in there other than steve and um jakey that anyone knows
from crypto twitter they might be like when the market is this space recorded when the market
starts declining you're going to see creators from that house have beef with other people in
that house are going to come out on the timeline and say how their their fees that they were
generating percentages were going to the
people in the house and the people that own the house and they got fucked and they're owed money
and they didn't make any money and they're gonna start complaining and everything's gonna fall
apart trev already has a token they can't rinse trev trev can rinse them for their 13 viewers
they don't want that to happen.
He's a threat.
That's how I see it personally.
And you can't, if they're funded both creators,
they can't have them all under the same roof.
Do you want to do a space?
Do you want to do a space?
Not now.
Later, I'll do a space.
Okay.
I have to end this one.
That's what I'm asking.
Shit, I'll vamp your space.
Michael just taking a shot uh books do you think just rugged i got you
hey keep it running keep it running for an hour i can start now i can't i can't i got you i got
you i'll go do your thing yo all right if if books isn't gonna start one uh amp you said you're gonna start
one i got you yeah i got you follow him
