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QuirKids + Crypto isn’t cool anymore = good! Coffee w/ Captain #1,059
Recorded: Dec. 24, 2025 Duration: 2:47:34Space Recording
Short Summary
The launch of Quirk Kids marks a significant expansion of the Quirkies brand, focusing on family-friendly content and community engagement. With nearly $7,000 in royalties generated in the past week, the project demonstrates strong support and a commitment to sustainable growth, while exploring future token opportunities.
Full Transcription
I'm on web one. Hella ho. Gone web two.
I was living a dream.
Now I'm on web three.
And it is with the scenes.
Topping the pyramid schemes.
I'm telling you.
I'll sell you a percentage on Nebula.
Shout out to Vince.
Yo, set it up.
Surfing on the web and I'm shooting at three.
I've been golden when I got my T. I'm an elegant boy from a different planet.
Yeah.
So I got my drink.
I'm riding in the 1920s Model T Ford.
Car, era, law.
Call me Levi, playing. I got my drink. I got my drink. I'm riding in the 1920s model T Ford car.
Arrow law.
Call me Levi playing on keys.
What?
Can I block it from a gloves on?
If I said it, then I meant that.
Yeah.
I like that one.
I'm about to get that.
Crash that whip for the drumsticks.
Whiplash.
I'm about to get them all.
Are you with that?
In a white boat surrounded by blue.
I want one, but I got a cop turn.
I want to fly high in the sky, arms out wide, trying to swore through a bird type view.
I'm on fire, Ricky, Bobby.
Cracking the pavement, Whitney, Bobby.
I'm a Saki bomb, Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
Bruce Wayne been a dog, and I keep it 101, because I'm feeling kind of spotty.
Sipping on some rock, and I'm sipping on octane.
The only thing around my neck
We can make a trade get a memo We'll be right back. Yeah, I got coin. I see where y'all going.
I'm popping since web one.
Hella hooked on web two.
I was living the dream.
Now I'm on web three.
And it is what it seems.
Topping the pyramid schemes.
I'm telling you.
I'll sell you a percentage on Nebula.
Shout out to Vince.
Yo, set it up.
Breaking them all the truth.
Why?
But they got knowledge to move, son.
I'm shocking in shades with my brother in suits.
Yeah, them blues is coming.
Even though it's hard to pick, any mighty mo.
Soda on the mix, no biting lips.
It's time to go.
Index number one, no thumbs up.
You got to scroll.
Looking at the ghosts in studio.
It's time to go.
Had a helmet on by myself until I met a mask.
That one would have a face off.
Had to bring my chainsaw.
Full ticket gas in the drive with my brakes off.
I'm A1, but a different kind of stakes off.
Welcome to Coffee with Captain, powered by ApeCoin, where we dive into all things crypto,
NFTs, web-free, and cutting-edge technology.
Remember, nothing here is financial advice.
Early-stage tech can be exceptionally volatile and risky.
So grab your coffee and join Cap and Steve for today's conversation.
Welcome to the future.
Welcome to Coffee with Captain GMGM. Thanks so much for joining us. If you haven't done so,
do us a favor. Drops a GM in the chat down below, then head up top, smash that like,
repost a bookmark on today's space. We greatly appreciate it. It warms up the algo and does
us a real solid. You'll also find up there a link to the abstract chat in the YouTube chat.
And I'm working on an update right now. I had to make sure I'm spelling grievances correctly. G-R-I-E-V-A-N-C-E-S,
I believe is accurate. It's telling me it might be spelled incorrectly, but we're going to roll
with it. We missed yesterday. Big fumble on my part. Dropped the ball. Wasn't thinking.
Big fumble on my part.
Drop the ball.
Wasn't thinking.
We missed Festivus.
So for anyone who needs to air some grievances, bring them.
We've got, I don't know, 56 minutes.
If you want to air your grievances, you've got some time today.
So they've got to be crypto or NFT related grievances, however.
So feel free to drop them in the chat.
Stage is open if you'd like to join us up here and air your grievances on a recorded space.
You have to tag or single out the founders and teams that you're airing these grievances to, however, so hopefully they can hear you and do something with us.
GM to all the GMers.
Zane, number one, over on YouTube, going for Solomon and Vaughn Fronten's crown.
I'm guessing, yes, as always, Teacher Katie.
Teacher Katie is the Mel of abstract chat.
Mel first in the X chat teacher Katie over there in abstract streets. And we've got a full day
today. We've got some exciting stuff. We are, I can spend the next, let me check my, uh, my fancy
docket here. I can spend the next 60 seconds talking about Brock Purdy, but I'm not going to
do that. If you're here for my Brock Purdy takes, you should join the war room.
He is elite. That's all I will say on that topic.
But we did miss Festivus.
So again, if anyone has any grievances you would like to air,
let us know this morning.
You've got, we're still in the, what do you call it?
The like buffer zone from the actual Festivus,
which is December 23rd and not necessarily a grievance.
I had this pinned up top yesterday,
but we got just deep in doubt talk yesterday and did not have a chance to
did not have a chance to talk this Ricky,
real Ricky D post. And I just thought it was good kind of a kind of a high note the opposite of grievances really but probably will those of you that have
grievances and need to air them today this maybe will make you feel a little better or, or put some things in perspective. And maybe,
maybe this time next year you you won't have the grievances because you'll,
you'll follow real Ricky D's advice, real Ricky D.
If you've never heard the name, I came across him in the DFS streets.
I'm not sure the full background. I know him from DFS.
I know he's a poker player,
a successful DFS player,
apparently successful in poker and crypto as well.
I have not seen him in the DFS streets for a while.
And he sent out a post the 22nd,
so two days ago,
that explained why we hadn't seen him in a while.
As always, I'm Cap, co-hostless today. Actually actually we will have a special guest joining us around nine o'clock uh and as always never any financial advice this year crypto is risky and it's risky mean coins exception
risky you all get a zero to them so please don't put any money you can't afford to lose now that
i hold tokens we'll talk about from time to time not a financial advisor certainly not your financial
advisor please don't don't wait for that just always for some fun some information maybe a
little bit of education along the way and yes merry, Merry Christmas Eve to all those who celebrate.
So whether you're here to air your grievances and celebrate your festivus, whether you're here to celebrate Christmas Eve or any other holidays, hope everyone is enjoying some time with the family today.
I have not necessarily a hard out, but I've got a special pickup.
I don't want to make sure I see Joey out there.
out there. Joey's not with us yet, so I may have to repeat this later, but I have a heading
Joey's not with us yet, so I may have to repeat this later.
post show heading to pick up the Poundé Hémon today. So excited for that and priorities.
And real quick, this real Ricky D post, and then we will get into all things. I have a few headline
topics to get into trending news, news of the day. And then as I mentioned, we've got a special guest coming on here at nine.
Excited about that. You might've noticed the, uh, the, uh, the PFP change for the day.
These two things are connected. So you won't have to go too far to guess our special guests
also tweeted out a little bit ago. Excited for that. I see Poppy out there already.
GMs are looking forward to diving deep here in about an hour, uh, 50 minutes rather. So
real Ricky D let me pull this
up and I'll just talk through it and then we'll get into news of the day. Ricky says, I've gambled
for a living most of my adult life, poker, DFS, crypto. I won millions. Two years ago,
I abruptly quit in search of something I didn't yet know I was looking for.
Giving up millions in expected value turned out to be the best decision I ever made.
And this is for those of you not watching the video.
There's four pictures with this post, like skiing, looks like skiing, skiing or snowboarding,
mountain bike riding, surfing, and hiking, looks like somewhere in the Southern hemisphere, if I were to guess. He goes on to say, the truth was hard to admit. I was playing a faceless, unhealthy game where the
entire goal was to extract money from lesser skilled players, adding nothing real to the world.
No matter how much I won, it never translated into meaning. Eventually, that disconnect caught up with me.
I hit a point where money stopped working as a reward system entirely.
I wasn't unhappy in a dramatic way, just empty.
So I did something unfamiliar.
I slowed down, started therapy to understand why.
What became obvious over time was I was missing actual connection to people, to community,
to purpose, to community, to purpose,
to my own body. I had optimized for EB and completely ignored everything else. So I quit
gambling altogether, no hedge, no side action, made a deliberate decision to get healthier and
more connected, even if it meant giving up a massive financial edge. I started volunteering,
I got healthy, I traveled, I began coaching. I played sports. I did theater.
Most importantly, I got offline. Something unexpected happened. I started enjoying
existing again, talking to people, being outside, getting new ideas, meeting people from completely
different walks of life. Life felt wider. I won't pretend it was easy. Giving up high confidence
income stream messes with your head. Watching former gambling peers continue to print money made it even harder to rationalize
at time, but I stuck with the plan.
Now in 2026, I'm taking another leap, starting a healthy lifestyle and food service business.
It's a big upfront investment, real risk, no guaranteed edge, just something I believe
What amazed me most is how starting this business has unlocked everything I've built by getting
out in the world.
Advice, introductions, partnerships, support. Because of the connection I made over the past
few years, I've been able to assemble a real dream team, highly motivated, skilled, intelligent people
who genuinely care about what we're building. That would have never happened in isolation.
Every conversation, every community effort, every time I choose connection over comfort,
quietly compounded. The business exists largely because I chose to meet people instead of screens.
One thing I've learned, when you have an edge and a comfortable income, it's easy to stay put.
Even if you're quietly unhappy, the uncertain path is almost impossible to justify on paper.
But once you start walking towards that or towards what actually compels you, something strange happens.
Your true destiny begins to materialize.
You meet the right people. Ideas crystallize. Your perspective shifts. You stop living a life
that's just a means to ends, and you start living one that actually fits who you are.
If any of this resonates with you, trust the process of reinventing yourself. It's worth it.
Just thought it was a great post by RealRickyD, someone who did what few here have been able to
successfully do. Most won't admit this.
I can easily admit, I'm an addict.
I'm addicted to many things.
I have a very addictive personality
and there's a reason I don't drink anymore.
I wasn't some raging alcoholic,
but it was easy for me to become addicted
to the daily nightcap, the business drink dinners,
the, you know, I'm addicted to dopamine. I'm addicted to
games of skill gambling. It's I'm self-aware enough. And I've also done this similar work
on myself. I was also addicted to building businesses. I haven't built a business. And
I mean, last when I started, well, I founded it in, well, I shouldn't say this last venture that I started and I, I took
on any sort of outside investment and actually scaled a rail enterprise, employed other people.
Uh, I founded that business in 2012, uh, and exited, well, merged in 2017 and then full exit in 2024 after, you know, going and working for the corporate
evil empire for a few years.
The reason I haven't started another all-in venture like that, and you know, if you've
been here, you've heard me talk about it a few times, is I know the mode I get into.
is I know the mode I get into.
And while this may seem odd coming from someone who has shifted from doing what Ricky is doing now
to spending more time online, more time behind screens,
I have a lot of what he was searching for in the real world I've actually found here
in terms of the community, the relationships, the doors that have opened. Basically, you could
have, I could have copy pasted Ricky's post and talk about what the crypto community has brought
me, what this world has brought me in the last five years. But I can relate wholeheartedly as
I was building, you know, first a wireless business and a phone repair franchise to ultimately to not
be in the rat race, to not, to get out of the corporate America farce that, that, you know,
that, and again, it's, it's for some people. It wasn't for me. And I went into business for
myself so that if my daughter had a play at two o'clock on a Tuesday afternoon, I was there,
which I was until I wasn't.
And I got addicted to building businesses and scaling businesses and growing at breakneck
speeds. And it was fun, but it also like, I will be honest. I'm, I don't get envious or jealous.
I'm actually happy for any of my friends crushing life and they have big wins. I get, it excites me truly does. If I have any sort of like envious bones in me, it's, it's my friends that have
younger children. It's people like Von Fronten and Steve and many others out there that have
kids that are in their early teens or, or even younger, you know, Poppy's got a toddler. I'm
jealous of that. I wish I could run back that part of my life.
And I'm not going to get emotional talking about it.
At least I'm not going to tip not to get emotional.
But I was there during my kids' childhoods,
but I wasn't always present
because I was addicted to scaling businesses.
And there was times,
I think I've probably shared on here before,
I was on the road once for a 17- day stretch and missed both my daughter's birthdays, missed both their respective graduations, like elementary school and middle school, I think at the time.
But my point being is I got hooked into something that was a dopamine rush for me and I forgot why I was doing it.
I forgot my why.
And they were always still there. It was always
why I was doing that. I just went back to support their lives, their education, and make sure that
they should never have to worry about money. But I can't ever get back those years. And as my
youngest heads off to college next year, I don't have regrets per se, but I am, again,
envious of those who still have that time with their kids, whether you've got five years left
or 15 years or 16 years left. It does not to be cheesy, but it does fly. Time compounds, I feel
exponentially every single year when you have kids. And so shout out to Ricky, real Ricky D for having that
realization a couple of years ago, checking out and focusing on himself, his life and doing,
finding real purpose, real meaning. And most don't do that. Most here, there's people that have ran
up six, seven, 10 figure, maybe even some nine figure accounts and are still in this casino.
They don't need to be like, you could debate, like, is 2 million enough to retire on?
I would say no is 10 million, 20 million.
It depends on what your lifestyle is and what you want.
they don't leave the casino. It's hard. It's most, in fact, I think some get more of a rush by
But I would say most hit their number and they don't leave the casino. It's hard.
trying to think of a better term. I'm just going to say the phrase,
like putting their nuts on the table. I'm sorry. I couldn't think of anything else. It was just,
I had to get it out because I was struggling to come up with a more proper phrase as we're going
to talk like a kid-friendly show here in about. Um, I think some people enjoy that. I think for some, it's a dopamine of, of,
of being all in, of having, being in those high risk environments. And again, though, the, the,
the whole meaning, the whole reason is so you can get to the point where you're able to just enjoy
life. Like real rookie. I had another conversation. I'm not going to out on them because it's not my place to share their story, but a great
conversation with someone in this space who has done well, had a big come up as a creator and
is creating on their terms. In the past, they were driving, they were flying around a lot of
in-person events and they were doing, you know, a lot of production work on site and traveling
every weekend. They've got a family and got kids.
And we just had a conversation this week and he said this, this year, I just, I just started
saying, no, I don't, I don't need to do that stuff anymore.
I don't really enjoy it.
And the whole reason I was doing it was so I could be here with my family and flip the
script to where still working in the space, still helping others, but doing it on his
terms, not other people's terms.
And it sounds easy when you say it.
It sounds easy when you hear it, at least speaking by myself.
It's not easy.
I have been very fortunate to have made, whether building businesses, trading NFTs,
there's been not one, not two, but three times in my life where I have made seven figures and then lost seven figures.
Fortunately, most of those times, it's been a little more to the positive than what the net loss was.
But there was three distinct times.
I'm not saying I could have been done, done, but in all different outcomes.
Some rushing to an exit because I was impatient and wanted to do the next thing. Others was simply just round tripping NFTs. But my point being, it was multiple times where I can relate to Ricky's story where I was up big.
up big. And I'm not saying I have round trip games again in two of the businesses I exited,
but I've shared here, like one of those businesses I ended up merging with a competitor,
sold my own stores, took a leadership role, helped them exit with my initial investor.
And it was, you know, a nice eight figure exit for the family office. I got a very small
percentage of that. I was, you know, just how things work. I had 20 stores at the time,
five of them were mine, the rest were franchised.. I had 20 stores at the time. Five of them were mine.
The rest were franchised.
And I had a big investor that was a strategic partner and brought them into the mix.
But the company I merged with had, you know, 250 franchise stores at the time.
We helped them grow to over 500.
And I got rewarded for my efforts.
And over the course of my time there, it was, you know, I did very well.
But it wasn't the my competitor there was two of us that
scaled national footprints and my competitors had a not eight but a nine figure exit uh that's just
one example of not that i round tripped it not that i necessarily left those gains on the table but it was a win that if I'm comparing to others,
it looks like a big L and it was,
I think more so than the financial gain,
which wasn't as big as others. It was, um,
that grind led to a divorce. It led to a couple of years,
18 months maybe where I didn't get to see my kids as often as I would like.
And it was likely a direct result of being addicted to building a business. And I'm self-aware
of that now. I did a lot of work on myself seven, eight years ago. I'd be forever grateful for that,
but it wasn't easy. And I still have the same tendencies. I still am easily addicted to dopamine and the rush.
And when I say I want to feel something, it's not a bit.
It's not a meme.
I did the Bitcoin short the other day.
I enjoy it.
I just now know there's limits to what you enjoy or you should have some sort of parameters around it.
And the biggest thing I don't do in my life anymore is I, I just, I shut up the clock. Like I work
for myself, but I work for myself more, more like I, you know, the, the 40 hour week work week that
I never enjoyed before. Like when I, you know, for 20 years of my life, it's not an exaggeration
when like a 60 hour work week would be a light week for me. You know, there was, I was most weeks,
it was seven days a week. Occasionally I'd take a day off, but even then I was never fully present.
I was always looking at numbers. I was always looking at the business. I just, I was wired to,
I just would be all in for my time, for my mental focus. And while some would tell you, yeah, if you're Elon Musk and you're building multiple publicly traded companies or billion dollar enterprises, that's the life you choose.
Most entrepreneurs don't have to choose that life.
And that's the shift I made is, you know, good luck trying to get a hold of me at six o'clock at night.
Perfect example.
Poppy had a space at a town hall last night. Yeah. He said, Hey, June, if you can,
I listened to some of it, but I had plans and I was busy and I chose to not change my plans to hang out on the space. I tuned in, I supported it, but I wasn't present for that the whole time
because that other things going on. If you've ever texted me at seven o'clock at night, if you,
especially after eight o'clock at night, my phone goes into not to serve.
You won't get a response from me
unless you catch me on some weird night
where I just happen to check my phone
until probably four o'clock, five o'clock the next morning.
I don't care if that costs me business anymore.
I used to, and I used to think like every email,
every text, everything had to be responded to instantly.
And when I made this shift in 2018, 2017,
I just, I reprioritized my focus.
I'm still wired the same way. I just put guardrails around myself because I'm self-aware.
I know that I'm like, I don't want to say I'm like a recovering addict. I don't say I'm a recovering alcoholic. I don't even really consider myself an alcoholic, but I'm an addict. And I, so it's not even recovered.
I just am, I embrace the life.
I enjoy it.
I like the dopamine.
I just am at least self-aware enough to know that I put the X-Guardra's on myself and it's,
it, you know, I'm, I'm, I have the, I'm no different than anyone here.
I, other than I'm older than some of you, most of you.
I just have the gift, the experience and the benefit of time.
And many lost seven figures on multiple occasions that taught me valuable lessons about money come, money go.
Or as better put, mo' money, mo' problems, as my friend Biggie would say.
I see we got some hands.
Von Fronten, GM, sir.
Take whichever direction you'd like. Always a pleasure. Hey, GM, GM. Uh, I will not be airing any grievances this morning. Um, no, since you, uh, since you invoked, uh, spending time with
kids and, uh, prioritizing important things in life and things like that, it got me, it got me
feeling a certain way. So I thought I'd come and give my perspective for maybe a minute or so here.
So what you said reminded me.
There's a contrast that I had in my life, and so to the extent this helps other people think through things or whatever.
So I think as some people may know, a year and a half ago, I quit my corporate job that I had had for 20 years to pursue kind of entrepreneurship and just kind of
like a basically different lifestyle. Like I was in a horrible place, like mentally,
physical health was crap. A lot of the same things I think that were in the post.
And the thought process I had leading into that wasn't about now it's my time to go make more
money, right? Now it's my time to
go do whatever. Like it was not a financial driven one. It was very much a like, I was realizing,
right? Like my oldest son's 15. He's got like three and a half years before he moves out and
goes to college. Like I was like, time's short. A lot of similar things you said. Like I feel like
I'm not maximizing my time to things that I'm choosing to put that I know that in my mind, I hold like the most important, which is my family.
And I was not lining up how I was spending my time to how I was, to how I was mentally
prioritizing things.
That was kind of like the shift.
And the main thing that goes into it in this, and I'd say this for anybody, you know, any
parent out there is like, to remember like, your kids didn't choose to be here, right?
At some point in time, you, you know, likely made a choice to say, hey, we're going to go and have kids.
And so because you made that choice, assuming you did, like, I take that as like a huge responsibility of what I need to do and what I need to be them as, as a father and as a parent.
So that was something that really, it was,
it was a switch that kind of turned where I finally like I hit the tipping
point and I was like, I'm not living up to the thing that I kind of believe.
Right.
And they only get one childhood and I'm responsible for that.
So I want to make sure that their childhood is a childhood that one that
they look back fondly of and not something that they are
looking back and they're trying to escape the rest of their life. I contrast that with a story of,
there was an executive in my corporate world that I used to work with. I remember sitting in a
meeting with him and it was like a big conference meeting, you know, whatever, 15, 20 people in
there. I'm sitting next to him and he and I had a pretty good relationship. And I see him there.
He's like, he's got his iPad on the him and he and I had a pretty good relationship. I see him there. He's got his iPad
on the table and he is constantly refreshing
this webpage.
You swipe down to get to hit the refresh.
I'm like, dude, what are you doing?
He shows me. It's his Charles
Schwab account.
He was on the verge of
breaking $100 million in that
account. He was waiting
for the stock market to update. His portfolio was about to top $100 million in that account. He was waiting for the stock market to update.
His portfolio was about to top $100 million.
And I was like, oh my God.
I'm trying to be attentive in the meeting,
but he and I are having this whole sidebar, right?
And he's the highest ranking person in the room,
so he can't really have too much of a conversation.
I'm like, so what?
Are you out?
What, is this the number you were going for? And I'm like, like, so what? Like, are you, like, are you out? Like, what was this? Like the number you were going for?
And he's like,
he then gets passed over for CEO of the company that I was at leaves,
goes and goes to be a CEO of another company.
Does that for a few years leaves.
And now is like,
like running like a venture capital firm.
Like he doesn't have a number.
And that,
like that mindset, right. And he was somebody like,
great relationship, great leader, great business person, yada, yada, right? Professional success
all around. But that whole concept of knowing your number and take your chips off the table,
I don't think he has one. And it was like, that stuck with me of saying, dear God, I never want to be in that
position where I don't have that number. And I'm always kind of like chasing the dragon
of something that is always out of reach. And it comes at expense of other things that are way more
important in my life. So, um, no, I'm, so I'm, I'm in a very similar boat as you are that like
that, that post kind of hit me.
It also reminded me when I do get into a grind mode, and it's going to happen, right?
I mean, you're going to have to go grind at something, or you're going to get really obsessed with something, good, bad, or indifferent,
to try to keep the perspective that you make sure you don't get so caught up that you lose sight of the things that are more important.
Yeah, well said.
I used to want to be a billionaire,
not because of Bruno Marsong.
I was just a big number and a specific wealth target to go for.
I have zero desire.
Like I have zero desire to live in a 6,000 square foot home again or fly jets.
Like it's not important to me at all.
It's important to other people or other people think it's important. I have zero desire to do
that. I also, and I can't even claim I know what it takes to get there, but I believe unless you
get extremely lucky or fall into, you know, some sort of gift, it's, I know I'm not, I have no interest in living that life
at this stage of my life to even make an attempt to get there. My numbers, nothing remotely close
to that. Would it be nice to have unlimited wealth for like to have true generational wealth?
Yeah, sure. But I don't need my name on buildings. I want to, you know, it's, there's the,
I don't know. Is it the fisherman peril or the old man in this what's what's the parable about the you
know the fisherman you know i'm talking about does anyone help me out on this one yeah i think it's
hemingway old man in the sea not not hemingway or no is this moby dick chasing the white whale
i mean that that's the thing as well both those are a thing, but there's a parable about a fisherman.
And he talks like this, this he's, he's living in a, you know, he's fishing on the water,
living in a hut on the beach and with his family, his kids. And he, and there, he does a, you know,
it has an incredible fishing business. It's just him, no employees, just pays all his bills and
lives his dream life. And some like VC from the Northeast is out there on vacation and sees him
and says, oh man, this is incredible. You got a great business here. You could scale this and
you, you know, and I'm butchering the story, but in, you know, 20 years, you could have a fleet of,
you know, hundreds of fishing boats and a whole enterprise and hundreds of employees and,
you know, be making millions of dollars. And, and and and then you could retire on the beach and and spend all the time with your family the point being like he he had
that in life already and some you know an outsider you know tried to basically create a lot more work
and a lot more time away from said family to where then 20 years when he's 20 years older he can
enjoy the life he's already living today there's is an actual parable. If anyone knows it, link me in the chat. I'll try to do a Google search.
It's a parable of a Mexican fisherman. I just looked it up on things, and it says right here that it says,
it tells a tale of a businessman who meets a content, small-scale Mexican fisherman and advises him to expand his operation,
catch more fish, buy bigger boats, start a canary, become a corporate giant, only for the fisherman to ask, and then what? You got it. Yep.
So that is, we're actually are going to talk a little bit about CT.
We're going to talk about crypto.
Does it become cringe?
It doesn't really matter.
Like do something that makes you happy and stop chasing the dragon.
Stop chasing other people's goals or ambitions.
And you'll probably enjoy a lot more out of life.
Money doesn't buy happiness.
It does make the world go round. It's hard to be,
I haven't yet to see a homeless person skipping down the street, just elated that they're,
they're broke and they don't know where their next meal is coming from.
Being able to support yourself, your family, it is important, but that in itself is not everything
and it's not going to make most people happy. So I think it's again, end of year,
good time to reflect.
Shout out to Ricky D for the assist and,
you know,
worded it better than I could have.
And everyone's different.
Yeah.
It's not like some people that's what they want and that's fine too,
but know that every,
but most things come with trade-offs.
Most things come with sacrifices.
Keep fishing, Keep fishing dropped
in the chat. I'll pin it up top for those that haven't heard or haven't read the full
parable of the Mexican fishermen. We've got not only the text, but it's with a fancy image next
next to it. So I appreciate you dropping that in the chat. Keep fishing, not surprised.
to it. So I appreciate you dropping that in the chat. Keep fishing. Not surprised.
Someone who I have a feeling lives, lives a life similar to the, similar to the Mexican
fishermen. I'm just, my, my point is it is more challenging than it is, than meets the eye. It's,
it's easier to say than do.
Most people won't leave the casino when they could.
And it's not about all round tripping.
It's the people that will continue to print,
will continue to have wins, but the time and stress in like, what,
what are the,
what are the exponential gains? If it,
what are the incremental gains you the exponential gains? If it, what are the,
even the incremental gains you get from the grind? If, if it is stressful for some people, it's not stressful. Some people, like I said, myself, I, I,
I'm my brain's broken. I enjoy, I enjoy it. My,
my point is though I no longer sacrifice things outside of my life.
I enjoy it in kind of time bound blocks. And if I don't get something done
today, I don't get something done today. It'll still be there tomorrow. And also a perk of
working for yourself. But that said, we are, we got about a half hour left until our special
guest. There are a few news items I want to hit on. I do want to talk about crypto not being cool.
This was actually my ghostwriter, Von Fronten. Actually, I might have cued both these up now
that I say this. But we're gonna we're gonna before we talk about crypto
not being cool anymore per some i'm not gonna call them engagement farmers but
let me let me let me hold on that before we go there i do want to talk a little bit about abstract
we're not gonna talk about the precipitous drop in floor prices overnight i i don't know what
happened i'm assuming there because it's not across the board but some collections are down like double
digits i'm assuming like pudgies are now starting with a three a year ago they were starting with a
three zero if i'm not mistaken yes i know that was pre-pingu but point being is 11% drop overnight is somewhat concerning.
Someone else also mentioned in the war room that people realizing that a lot of NFT founders,
especially those that have dropped a token, are more aligned with their token than they are the NFTs
because A, the token has more holders in a larger community,
and B, the founders, the leaders, and the team have unlocks,
and they have much more of a vested interest in their token performing well
than they do on the NFTs.
And if their NFTs could go to zero, it doesn't affect most of those founders' lives.
The token goes to zero.
It could be seven, eight, nine figures of loss.
So that makes sense.
This conversation, though, from Big Floppa So that makes sense. This conversation though,
from Big Floppa here, I'll pin this up top in a second, and I'm going to read it out quickly for those watching, not watching the video today. Big Floppa says, what if abstract XP becomes
the pass to ICO? Lately, we've seen more and more projects choose a public ICO to distribute their
tokens. Luca hinted that abs XP won't just be an airdrop. What if XP becomes the multiplier for ICO participation?
I see a few possible cases, tier-based discounts via XP.
We've seen similar systems before.
The more you can contribute,
the better entry price you got versus everyone else.
It can work great,
but if the max wallet cap is too large,
many users won't be able to fill their allocation
and miss out on potential profits.
You can fix this by keeping caps relatively small,
like 10K, depending on tier.
The downsizes a smaller raise and potentially less over-subscription, which can reduce hype and
marketing push, but it can make the sale more compelling for real community members if it is
clearly plus EV for them. Two, limited public access with an XP gateway. Recent sales are often
limited access for the general public, prioritizing community members, see football fun,
and space contributors like using Ethos-style scoring and MegaEth, Solstice, or other systems.
We could see something similar in abstract ICO2, access only if you're a valuable
contributor to the ecosystem and active community member, i.e. XP use case,
or you pass other filters. These mechanics can be combined in different ways, and that's what makes it interesting.
I'm looking forward to seeing what Luca comes up with, but I'm sure it'll be something unique.
What are your thoughts on this? Would you participate if an abstract ICO happened?
I'm taking this at FaceValue that Luca actually posted this. I didn't see the original post, but screenshot here.
It says XP matters. Abstract chain. ICO is coming.
I kind of... Frosty's happens to be the first comment. It says tier-based discounts via XP.
This would be stupid and just creates fixed seller before TGE.
I see both points. I hear you. It depends on how it's executed. I think like I did something similar with mega ETH and I'm not a seller. I do understand though a lot
of people in that abstract ecosystem that have been farming xp if they're
farmers and they're there just for the abstract token yes they are almost a guaranteed seller
uh they're buying a discount they're selling they're flipping for a gain and they're moving on
it's not that easy i do think they'll probably be if i were to guess i think we probably will
see something that's not just an airdrop. It's not just a claim.
Maybe XP and pudgy holders get some claim,
and then maybe a discount on an ICO price,
maybe to get it in an early round to be determined.
But I will say this.
I think a straight airdrop to XP and or pudgy holders
is destined to not be good.
I think a straight traditional ICO
also probably likely to number go down.
I think you can't just run the same playbooks.
A lot of them haven't worked.
They're going to have to do something different.
And I at least appreciate the thinking here,
getting outside the box a little bit.
What can they do differently?
Tapping into some things that have worked well.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we see something like this, some sort of abstract ICO.
And maybe it's not a discounted price.
Maybe it is.
We were just talking about the Infinex crate openings the other day where in those crates,
you've got anywhere from, I think, 500 to 50,000 tokens you could purchase at a reduced price point.
It's new, different mechanic.
I don't not like it.
And I appreciate teams doing things differently
as opposed to trying to run back the 21-22 playbook,
which has presumably played out.
Von Fronten or McVale, any thoughts or comments on...
I think, Von Fronten, you posted that one, right?
Big flop up? Yeah front that was you you posted that one right big flop yeah that was me any any do you disagree do you agree any any um any takes you'd like to add to that yeah i'm probably in the same boat as you i don't know um if it's
good bad or indifferent i probably do agree that like if you just do the same thing again right
like um it's gonna end up looking like the same thing, right? Price goes up for a couple days, price goes back down.
Maybe something happens later if the team executes over time, right?
I get the impression because they've already launched a token in Pengu
that the team running this, like the broader Igloo team,
has seen that play out.
They see what happens.
They've learned from it.
And I'm going to guess they're going to do something different this time.
What that something different is, I don't know.
But I think given it's been a year,
given it's been supporting a chain, not a project,
you've got to try to take a bigger swing
than the typical token drop that PFP communities and things like that.
So is this the right move?
I have no idea.
I'm not an expert enough in the field
to kind of give that judgment.
But I think I do appreciate the thought process
of whether it's this or something else different,
doing something different on this scale of a TGE
and not just doing the same thing,
you know, the same set of plays we've seen with other TGE and not just doing the same thing, the same set
of plays we've seen with other TGEs
in the past.
Yeah, good take.
They've got to do something different.
And I don't think it's
coming anytime soon. I kind of hope not.
I don't know what their timeline looks like.
I also,
beyond how they execute
TGE and how they incorporate XPp i kind of hope they do something
i agree with katie katie says not happy with xp on abstract while i'm trying my best to earn xp
i'm continually disappointed each week they're still rewarding xp in quote-unquote secret or
guess what we're rewarding this week it's so disappointing a daily user who uses the chain
yeah i i guess i can understand where they're
coming from and why they wanted to not disclose everything they didn't want people just to farm
for xp i i hear most people that are actual active daily users of the chain share similar
sentiments keating i think they would behoove them to change how the rewarding
xp whether it's they go back to a badge system or they don't have to share everything but be a little
more prescriptive be a little more you know telegraph a little more give people not just
completely in the dark point them in the right direction would be my suggestion let let them at
least speculate on,
I think this is what they want me doing.
And then if they do it and they get rewarded,
well, they're going to do it again versus doing one thing,
getting rewarded one week,
doing the same thing next week and getting nerfed on your points.
I'm not sure that's it.
Beepic says it's always been about being at the top of the leaderboard of
certain games and or NFT holdings.
I mean, I don't know i am i who
might have told them how to run a chain or to build a points program but i'm just not sure that's it
uh week to week it changes i think that's part of the problem um i understand i understand the
logic behind it i'm just not sure i'm not sure it's driving the desired result someone could
check me here and pull up um teach katie also said she was first on blinker this week so that
doesn't seem to be working either um do you mind sharing how many xp you got or yeah how many xp
much xp you got this past week katie i'm curious go ahead von front yeah so like me so here's the
thing that and i know and i've been critical of some of the mechanics over the past year where, and I was the same thing, right? Like one week I'm in, you know, and I never made it big. I think my biggest week was maybe 20 to 30,000. I think that was during the, the F1 Red Bull thing where you minted the first round they did. And that was super juiced. You got a badge, everything. Right.
The first round they did, and that was super juiced.
You got to badge everything, right?
But the constant moving around where, hey, this week, the badge is what gets it.
The next week, it's memes.
The next week, it's liquidity pools, right?
We all know at this point in time what makes a chain work
you need tvl you need transactions like so and you need users right like so just say hey
in general those things i don't care if you do it with lps or memes or nfts or go go play you know 100 rounds of death.funt whatever just go participate
and we will continue to reward people that participate and we will reward them consistently
and let the chips fall where they may over a year like let's be honest i don't know many people in
this space that have it in them to farm consistently for a
year if all they're doing is farming. The farmers will come and go, but I think the real people
that are going to stay with you that long are likely going to be the people who found something
they truly enjoy doing because there is a product worth using. And so if their whole goal was they
want to see if there's stickiness and they have a set of products and a set of dApps that can actually continuously maintain users and volume and transactions, then you've got it.
You don't need to keep us guessing.
Trust us.
Nature will take its course. We will get tired of the casino
games that just keep me clicking or keep me spending money. I'll take my funds elsewhere.
I'll take my time elsewhere if the product's bad. But the constant moving of the goalposts
furthers the frustration and maybe makes me so that, I'll be honest, I haven't logged in an abstract in maybe a week or two. Um, it makes me not even then look to discover what could be really, really good
products on the chain. So that's where I hope I, maybe it's there now. Maybe they've changed their
ways. I know they were going to do a lot of changes over the past, like, uh, like Q3 or so.
Um, so maybe it's there now, but that was definitely the frustrating part. So hopefully it's moving in that direction where it's just like, just get on the chain, get on the chain
and we'll reward people on the chain. However, we seek to do that and incentives will be aligned.
Yeah. I think the TLDR there that I take away is the customer, your user's not always right. At some point,
you need to listen to your user. And if the people who are there every day are the people
you want to retain, and most of them are sharing their frustrations, and many are providing
alternative solutions or things they'd like to see, like not saying anyone has the right answer
that they have to roll out, but I think a change xp would be good because i i agree i get on there to stream every day
monday through friday but i haven't done anything else in a while um i i'm sure there's things that
may be interesting to me and i've given them credit like i i do think they have one of the better portals if not
the best portal in you know of any of any chain i just it just feels a little
i don't know the right word for it like they just stopped like it honestly i'm just keeping it very
real it doesn't feel like it's evolved much at all since launch.
It's been live for a year.
And I'm not making fun.
I'm not taking shots.
I'm sure this will be taken out of context.
I'm a fan of Luca.
I'm a fan of the chain.
I'm a fan of the portal.
We like streaming over there.
It's got us streaming.
Like, we may not be on X video or YouTube at all,
if not for abstract.
It was the push we needed.
This year, what changes, what updates did they do?
Where did they improve?
It's not a bit, not hyperbole.
From my perspective,
the biggest change in abstract this year,
the biggest update,
and I can give you some critiques on things like I thought the badge
program was good and they killed that.
So the biggest positive change would be dark mode.
They,
they didn't have dark mode at launch to come several months to do it.
They now have dark mode,
which I'm grateful for,
but I don't know as if that's something you're going to even put in your
investor deck.
Like I'm, I'm just going to, I'm going to move on because I don't want it to be taken out of context.
I'm dunking on them. I just, it feels like it's gotten stale. I guess that's, that's my TLDRs.
It's just this space is it good or bad attention is fleeting and good segue into the next topic here, apparently more fleeting than ever before.
So a good reason to maybe make some changes, do some things to bring your, to re-engage your existing holders, to maybe potentially bring in some new users, maybe bring in some new participants.
users, maybe bring in some new participants.
Two quick things. One, before I hit on the other crypto isn't cool anymore topic, I do want to
cover this before we shift gears into our special guest today. I am excited to dive deep on Quirk
Kids and all the quirky updates. I appreciate Poppy's time today. I know very busy. Also a
family man and holidays are here. But before I hit on that
feeling festive, we do have a holiday badge for everyone here today. It is live now. It'll be live
for until December 31st. So you've got a week to mint this thing. Although it would be great to,
uh, to see a bunch of these claimed today. It's free to claim.
It's from our friends over at OpenPage.
There is a link pinned up top.
You can click through the link and go to the claim page
or you can just go to op.xyz
and claim with code CWCHOLIDAY.
I don't think it's case sensitive.
All of our case should work.
CWCHOLIDAY is the code. If anyone has any issues with that code, let me know. But yeah, CWC holiday is the code, the link, or just go to XP or OP.XYZ to claim. And the art, fan of the art here, courtesy of our friend Imlo, who the tag, the handle degens.
our friend Imlo, who the tag, the handle DGens.
I'm not sure if Imlo is out there yet this morning.
We didn't, he didn't even know I went live with this.
I said, we were talking about it like ideating
and he delivered the artwork
and we decided this morning around 6 a.m.
to go ahead and ship it.
So if you were here during Art Basel,
you know that Imlo won a regular animal and
offered up some of his art. There might be some more goodies. Don't mint this with any expectations,
but it's the holidays. There's a chance anyone that holds these badge might be in line for some
in line for some goodies over the course of the next week.
goodies over the course of the next week. I'll just say that. But go mint it to collect the art,
I'll just say that.
But go minute to collect the art, support Emlo,
get another coffee with Captain Badge in your wallet.
And you can see here the fancy ape derivative
courtesy of Emlo, which his handle is
at DGENS, D-E-G-E-N-S, if you're not already following.
We'll give him some more FaceTime
when he's in the show here.
And shout out to Emlo.
Shout out to everyone who's already claimed that and, um, enjoy it. Have some fun. If you're not yet checked out,
checked out, uh, uh, open page, highly recommend it building some really cool tools for creators
over there. That said last topic of the day. And I may need, uh, I would like to step away for like
30 seconds after I covered this at a high level so
von front if you're ever to hang out i'd like to kind of put you on the spot again since you were
also the one who might not only be a copywriter but also becoming co-producer uh pre-show producer
giving us all the content to talk about here on the show appreciate the uh the tags appreciate
dropping it in the chat and it is i'm not sure how I missed it at first because it did, uh, did do its rounds on crypto Twitter.
It's came out yesterday around noon, 1130, 150,000 views. So you may have already seen it.
504 bookmarks, uh, 1300 likes. And, uh, here's what it has to say. And I had a counter. I sent
out the counter this morning. Uh, I'll share here briefly. I'll give my
take and then Von Fronten. I would love to hear yours if you don't mind. If you can at least give
me 60 seconds of air cover, I'd appreciate it when we get there. So this comes from Luke.
Investing Luke is the handle. I think I've pinned this up top. If not, I will grab it. I will pin
it up there for, yeah, it's not up there yet, but give me a second. I will go grab it and pin it up
top. I do have it pulled up on video for anyone watching the stream here. And for those listening in, whether it's spaces or the podcast playback, I will do my best to read through this in my Micro Machine Man mode to give you all a good idea of what we're talking about.
give you all a good idea of what we're talking about. I see where he's coming from.
I, my take is, I think this is actually probably a net positive, but I'll expand on that here in a
second. So he says, Luke says, I'm quoting younger brother came into town for the holidays. We were
talking about crypto yesterday, trying to figure out why it's been so weak, even with strong equity
markets. He threw me a curve ball. Crypto isn't that cool anymore.
Blew my mind.
The kid is 22.
Prediction markets are better and stocks too because they don't get rung 24-7.
Read that again.
Prediction markets are better and stocks too
because they don't get rung 24-7.
I could give you dozens of stocks
that are down 90 to 97% in the last since 2021 there's a lot of
what many would have considered maybe not blue chip stocks but like the new the stocks of the
cycle the stocks coming out of pandemic that are down bad some could recover some may never
bitcoins never got rugged ethereum's never got rugged solana's never got rugged. Solana's not got rugged.
It might shut down every once in a while,
but that's a quick jab.
I'm going back to quoting the rest of the tech,
the post here,
and then I'll comment,
and then we'll hand it to Vaughn Fronten.
So after he says prediction markets are better in stocks too
because they don't get rugged 24-7,
this is my point.
This is why I think this may be a really net positive
for the space moving forward.
He says, I looked much deeper last night, and what I'm observing under the surface is not technical or fundamental.
It's cultural.
It's social shift.
Attention has relocated.
Starts on YouTube.
Views are down across anything related to crypto.
I do my best not to speak in absolutes, and I will tell you this is – are there less active participants today on crypto twitter
than there were in the mania yeah absolutely no one's disputing that i'm gonna i'm gonna expand
on this we says views are down anything related to crypto a crypto youtuber with 130 000 subscribers
said his viewership has dropped more in the last two weeks than anything he's seen in five years
this is this he screenshots a post here from Tyler Hill. I've been posting on crypto YouTube for five years. I've worked with 300 creators personally in the
space and a thousand through my company. That's hard for me to believe, consider I've been here
the last five years and I've never heard of Tyler. Now, Tyler does have 139,000 subscribers on
YouTube. Congratulations. Who are these creators and what is your company? I'm just curious because
you would think someone
that's worked with 300 creators that we'd at least have like a one degree of separation we
probably do just haven't connected the dot yet it says i've never seen views drop this fast before
in a 15-day period retail just gave up at record speeds so i had to go check it out what is tyler
talking about well the reason i haven't consumed tyler's crypto content is because it's this no offense to Zane or anyone
out there that builds YouTubes and and understands that yeah thumbnails are important and you should
do the cheesy cringe thumbnails I'm pretty sure like as I look here not really all similar cringe
thumbnails I'm not taking a shot I don don't know Tyler. I shouldn't be
taking a shot at him. It's just an easy comparison because Tyler said he's never seen views drop more
in the, in five years than they have in the last two weeks. So I looked two weeks ago,
his post 15 days ago got 7.7,000 views total. It's been out for two weeks. His view, his post
yesterday got 7.1,000 views. His post five days ago got 8.6,000, his post yesterday got 7.1,000 views.
His post five days ago got 8.6,000.
A week ago got 7.7,000.
Nine days ago got 7.7,000.
11 days ago, 8.1.
Two weeks ago, 9.8.
Two weeks ago, 10K.
So am I crazy here, Von Fronten? Or his views been in the last 15 days range from 7.1,000, which was yesterday.
Presumably that's going to get a few more to 10 000 and if we go back 15 days ago it was 7.7 thousand down to the lowest
it's been at 7.1 thousand is that not a precipitous decline or am i am i not looking at this correctly
i mean i don't know what is i guess what normal chop is i guess for youtuber you know youtubers
like at that scale right like i would guess probably similar like you yeah you're never
going to have the identical amount of views each day it's going to range a little bit
and but to say it's never been that like this original post isn't, I'm guessing it's an engagement.
It's not really down that much.
It's just, I don't know.
I don't get it.
Further, look at the content.
Eight out of eight.
100% of his last posts over the last two weeks are doom posts.
I'm done trading crypto.
This is a trap.
Shocking data. Crypto needs to find support. This is actually concerning. Crypto just failed. Crypto holders get per
fail risky. Maybe it's not that everyone's fleeting crypto and you're, which again,
I would dispute the views even being down at all, let alone worse than ever in the last five years.
But maybe it's the type of content.
Maybe most people don't want to read or watch Doom videos that's related to financial results.
I understand that you might get a lot of engagement on X for NFT loss porn or I roundtrip this meme coin bag that was seven figures.
Now it's 5K.
I get that's a great tactic to engagement farm on Twitter.
I'm not sure people – oh my god, I can't go wait to watch this 12-minute video about crypto being a trap from a crypto content creator.
I can't wait to go watch this nine-minute video about this guy telling me he's done trading crypto or the seven minute. Again, I'm not taking shots at Tyler. This is just,
it was referenced in the original post. I went and checked it out. I'm like,
not one of these videos is something I would want to watch. It's not content I consume.
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe part of the issue with active participants on crypto Twitter and YouTube Twitter or YouTube crypto is that a lot of the content creators have shifted to crypto is a scam, crypto is dumping, crypto is over, crypto isn't cool anymore.
Maybe I'm just old, Von Fronten.
None of that inspires me to go want to check out their content.
None of that's like, oh, if I wasn't here,
I can't wait to go check out this new industry.
It's all doom and gloom.
It's over.
People who've been creating content for five years
are saying it's over.
I shouldn't, like, what do you think's going to happen?
Yeah.
Am I?
Well, Cap, you're not old.
And I say that because if you're old, that makes me old.
So I'm going to say that you're not old.
I think the, so two things right let's
talk about the the specific creator and the content and also while you're adding to that
the other people they reference here is orangey a meme coin who made it big trading
shit coins and made it bigger by having a i don't have anything against orgy i'm just
from my perspective this is factual information.
He did well trading meme coins
and then he created a paid group
of a bunch of unassuming, presumably Zoomers,
kids in their 18 to 22 year old range
that thought crypto was cool.
And they paid, I don't know how many hundreds
or thousands of dollars to go join
these paid meme coin trading groups.
And then they all lost their bags.
I'm not saying that Orangey and his crew dumped on retail,
but people like Orangey built a big business on paid Discord groups,
encouraging those people to buy meme coins that a lot of them went to zero.
We're going to quote Orangey and then we're going
to i like kook i'm actually a fan i know this is a contrarian take but he says i have no interest
in trading crypto anymore equities and equity options are much more interesting like so that's
the thought leaders orangey kook and this guy tyler who i've never heard of crypto is no longer
cool because orangey says so he's orangey's gooding out of uh shilling his
his paid discord to trading robin hood stocks go ahead and i'm gonna hand you the mic if if you
wrap up mcgill if you want to get on here and then when i get back yeah i can go i feel like
caps had to either wherever he's going he's either had to go to the bathroom or get coffee for like
five minutes now so i i we need to let them go.
No, so I think there's two things here, right?
So first, let's talk about just like content in general, right? Especially like if the content is financially driven,
I'm an N of one,
but I got to believe there's other people out there that are like me.
Telling me where I can't make money is less appealing content than telling me where I can
make money, right? I'm not going to spend 30 seconds, let alone 12 minutes, listening to
somebody telling me what doesn't work when there are thousands and thousands of videos out there
telling me what can work, right? I can vibe code my new AI startup, right? I subscribed to Inc.
what can work, right? I can vibe code my new AI startup, right? Like I subscribed to like Inc
Magazine, just got it in the mail because I still do that last night and, you know, talk about
ghostwriting. I feel like a ghostwriter at the cover of that one where it's talking about, you
know, vibe coding billion dollar startups, right? I'm going to get really interested in looking at
that because that's talking to opportunity, not talking about where opportunity maybe used to be, right?
Whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent, the content is telling me it's over.
Maybe have one video that says, hey, it's over, and now go pivot to something else.
But having a bunch of videos of telling you how it's still over is like you're beating the dead horse.
And I don't think there's a lot of people that want to go continue to listen
to that. So I think there's a content issue in general, just around that. Zooming out and where
I think the post was going, and this actually got me thinking, was around attention economy.
And we've talked about it at a micro scale around meme? Like how do you keep the attention going over the course of days or weeks or
months?
Well,
what if we zoomed out and talked about at a macro level attention for years,
right?
And I'm going to look back.
I don't,
I don't have all the data cause I'm doing this kind of off the cuffs and
scat put me on the spot,
but look back to this time of year,
maybe over the past five years, right?
It was this time of year.
It was actually yesterday was my crypto anniversary.
So my crypto anniversary aligns with Festivus.
I should have gotten on here.
Got my first Bitcoin.
Our first bought Bitcoin December 23rd.
I think I want to say it was like 2013, 2013, 2014.
And then did nothing with it for a very long time and then got back into it like December of 2020.
The narrative around December 2020 and the months that followed were crypto, right?
It was Bitcoin. It was,
you know, ETH going from 500 to 6,000. It was, you know, Bitcoin going from, you know, at the time,
whatever, you know, 15, 20,000 to, I think it peaked around 60 before it retraced, right?
You had altcoins doing all sorts of fun stuff, right? That was the narrative this time five years ago. Four years ago,
it was NFTs, right? Somebody can go back and tell me what Bored Apes were trading for
December 2021. It was an all-time high, but it definitely was a ridiculous kind of silly number,
right? And there were a lot of other NFTs that were starting kind of the climb that was 2021, 2022. I'm blanking on kind of what, you know,
23 or 22, 23 were, if anyone, any other historians out there, feel free to fill in the blanks for me.
But then look at this time last year, it was meme coins, right? It was chill guy. It was fart coin.
It was unicorn fart dust. It was, you know, everybody downloading phantom and people making
tick tocks on how to go and, you know,
survive the meme coin streets, right? So it feels like every year or so, there's a narrative,
there is a new way to make money. And I'd argue this, the, you know, the 2025 narrative, you could
argue is prediction markets, or gold, silver, and platinum, or something else that is going to attract attention from people.
It's what's on my timeline.
It may not be where institutions are spending their money.
You still have Bitcoin ETFs and JP Morgan looking to build crypto rails and all that kind of stuff.
It's not that it's gone away.
It's not that it's gone away.
It's just not the news cycle, right?
It's just not the news cycle.
And there is, I think, some truth to the things that are in the news cycle attracting retail investment.
Not whale investment, not institutional investment, but retail investment.
in crypto recently that would make the regular person on the street go and download, maybe it's
Phantom, or go look at Coinbase, or go do something that is more enticing than going and buying a
silver ETF or getting on Kashi or Polymarket and placing some bets that way.
And I think there is probably some truth to that of what is the storyline around crypto
relative to the storyline around these other things and which ones, if I'm, again, financially
based decision that I'm trying to make on this one, if I'm looking to where I should spend my
attention and spend my money, what is the case for crypto relative to those other areas right now?
That's, I think, the point they're trying to make.
And I think there is some truth to that.
Oh, I agree.
And I just had to take the other side of it because, again, it came across very absolute-ish.
salutish. And I think Zonko here in the chat probably sums up what I was attempting to say
even a little better in that quote, quote, crypto is boring, unquote is true. But what Tyler refers
to that it is a complete product, unlike most other things like AI, which are built on obfuscation,
he wants to gamble. He doesn't want to build. Maybe I'm being harsh. I think that the gamblers, the pure DGens who are here just to flip an NFT in 21, 22,
the ones that were just here to get into a meme coin early because they're small group.
I'm not going to say they were going to pump and dump, but yeah, a lot of those were just
pump and dump groups and they were dumping on unsuspecting retail. Those pains are going to take a little while for those people to ever want to
come back and play in the casino.
If people are just viewing crypto as a,
as a casino and a place to gamble.
Yeah,
I do agree that that that's not a new cycle anymore.
What's in the new cycle is stable coin adoption.
Yes.
Prediction markets.
And that's where they can gamble now.
And maybe that's why crypto is boring because it's like – polymarkets on chain, yes.
But you could say that prediction markets are more outside of crypto than they even are crypto.
Their TAM is not just crypto.
It's not crypto natives by any stretch of the imagination.
We're just – it's a new room in the casino
for those that are here.
And if you made a lot of money flipping NFTs
or dumping meme coins on retail,
I could see why you think crypto is boring now.
But if you're a builder and you see the future of RWAs and the world getting tokenized and brought on chain,
it's never been a more exciting time to be here. Because what's in the news is stuff that's really
exciting for the builders long-term. From regulations to the tech taking major leaps
and bounds forward in terms of the ability to make crypto native products that look and feel
like a web two user interface for the masses it's awesome it's just if all they viewed it as was
how do i make 100x right now in the next month that's changed and yet there's not a lot of
new participants but the participants i would argue the participants that joined in 2025 are no offense to all of us that came in in 21, but they're more important.
You know, BlackRock buying billions of dollars of Bitcoin this year is more important than anyone who bought NFTs in 2021.
Like we've actually made tremendous strides forward as an industry and there's going to be something else.
I don't know what it is, but will it be like DeFi summer or NFT mania or meme coin mania?
I don't know.
Probably not.
I also don't think this is a bad thing that I think it's a good thing. I'm not saying they're all grifters, they're not all extractors, they're not all charlatans. But you know what? When this becomes a hyper-financialized and an 18-year-old with an internet connection can come in and make six figures in a month because they got in early to a mint or a token sub a million dollars, that's going to attract a lot of grifters, extractors,
and charlatans. When it's boring, it attracts more serious builders, more mature builders.
So I do. I think that crypto being boring may not necessarily be the worst thing in the world.
And I will hand it, we'll get to, we'll go back to Von Fronten and I saw Poppy had a hand up.
We'll let him comment on this and then we'll talk about all things Quirk Kids here.
But the last screenshot in this post from Luke is, you know, talking about the legacy brokerages like Schwab, JPMorgan, getting involved, government interests.
Is crypto losing the demographic that made it popular in the first place simon who runs a fund says having been
monitoring the market closely and speaking with tons of high-level people recently both from web
3vc space and traditional finance one of the most fascinating dynamics i'm seeing right now is the
massive divergence in sentiment tradified institutions are more bullish on crypto than ever
for them it's the hot new thing.
Most still don't fully understand it, but they know one thing for sure they want in, one way or another.
According to many of them, there's barely a single serious firm out there that isn't exploring how to enter the space right now.
On the other hand, you've got the native side, crypto degens, VCs, founders, exchanges.
And what's interesting is that many of them seem to be completely burnt out and depressed.
Nothing excites them anymore. They're tired, frustrated. A lot of plays they made didn't
work out. Some are even thrown in the towel and shifting their focus to building
or investing outside of crypto altogether. Maybe that's not a bad thing.
Don't get me wrong. Do I desire to make money here? Is making money here part of what attracted
me to space and brought me here? Yes making money here part of what attracted me to
space and brought me here? Yes. But it's not what kept me here. It's not what got me passionate
about the space. There's a lot of ways to make money in this world. If it was easy to be on the
bleeding edge of tech and finance, everyone would be printing 100Xs. There's going to be bumps in the road. There's going to be metas that come and go.
And I,
again,
if you just everything,
we just described the people that are leaving versus the people that are
coming in.
I don't know,
man.
I think I'd probably rather sit at the table with the people coming in than
the ones that are like,
again,
no offense to orangey.
I'd rather have dinner and I'm not a big fan of Jamie diamond,
but I'd rather have dinner with Jamie diamond than I would orangegy. Sorry, Orgy. Bonfront, go ahead. Well, first, if you told me
that the word charlatan was going to be used on this show not once, but twice now by the host,
I would have called you a liar, but here we are. No, so I think, so here's the it's it's funny right so we we talked about attention economy
or i did um so i'm going to reference myself here um that's that's cool right um
so and i'll tie it back to why i originally came on stage and then we'll we'll let poppy
uh ride us out for the rest of the show here um i've got a 15-year-old, a 12-year-old, and an 8-year-old.
I am seeing trends and memes play out in real time with my kids, right? It starts off like
it's cool in high school, and then it starts to be cool in middle school, and high school's kind
of over it. And by the time it gets to my eight-year-old high school, it is cringe. They
are so over it. And then the final stop is the parents start doing it, right? It's like any
trend, once the adults start doing it, it is not cool anymore. Guess what happened to crypto?
The adults started thinking it was cool. Jamie Dimon is building on base, right? BlackRock is
setting up ETFs. The adults think this thing are cool.
So of course the kids are not going to think it's cool anymore. This is nature. It happens.
And so I think it's, to your point, it's now going to attract a different type of person,
right? And I won't even just put scammers in here or DGENs or gamblers, but look at VCs.
VCs don't want 2X. VCs don't want 3X. VCs want 10X. VCs want 100X. They have the same
risk reward profile as gamblers in a casino of what they're looking for. It's the way their
business works. So yes, the VCs, the people who are looking for outsized returns, they're on to
the next one. To be honest, they're past AI even. They're like, oh, AI, if you're just getting AI now from an investment standpoint, you probably missed big institutions, the ones that make this an industry
that will stand decades or centuries the same way they have before, whether it was finance or real
estate or whatever, they're the ones that are now starting to pick up. And so that's not going to
attract anybody who's looking for a 10x or 100x or whatever, or the let me go make money in three days versus three years or three decades,
right? It's going to attract the people who are looking for a predictable and stable place to
build a business and to build products and things like that. And for me, because that's what I do,
I'm really excited about it, right? But look, if I'm a 22-year-old and I'm not a builder,
I'm not looking to found a company, I don't want to build a product, I just want to go and find where's the next best place to put my money to get outsized return, then yeah, crypto doesn't look as cool anymore compared to these other places where I can put that money.
people who have been with the show for 1059 episodes
that focuses a lot on building and sustainability
and the long-term success of crypto,
I think that is an incredibly good thing.
But for people whose attention span are weeks and months, not years,
yeah, it makes sense.
Yeah, good tip.
Good. I also think that as things change, the skill sets required to be successful here are probably different.
I also think that as things change,
And the people who had success pumping and trading meme coins and NFTs might not have might not have an edge when it comes to the next wave in crypto that's okay
like things go in cycles and i i don't think we get another nft mania i don't think we get another
meme coin mania they're not all going to zero they're not dying but what we lived through in
21 22 and 24 25 like i don't see that ever coming back. And if that makes it not cool,
then it's not cool. Dude, I, I, I repaired, I built a phone repair franchise. Do you think I
was picking up when I had a dating profile? Do you think it's like, Oh, I, I build a business
that fixed people's phones. Like that's not cool. It's about as nerdy as you can get turning screwdrivers.
Like it's not everything needs to be cool to make money. I get when it's attention based.
And I repeat back to, I don't know if that's a bad thing that it's not as easy to
go make five, six, seven figures
because you can control attention.
Because usually if you can move attention like that
and make yourself a lot of money on that attention,
it's often like, it's back to Ricky D's post,
the people you're making money from
are the people you're getting that attention from.
I know it's not that cut and dry, but it's very PVP and it's not like it
can go in spurts, but the reason why a lot of those people left and didn't come back and probably
won't come back is because they saw someone that was flashing, you know,
exciting PNLs and I'm up six figures, I'm up seven figures.
And they paid hundreds or thousands of dollars to be in a closed group thinking they could
get the same results.
And if you think, I'm sure there's some people who just identified,
they were just cultural geniuses and they knew what was going to be the next daily runner.
If you think that none of that was manufactured
or the hype and buzz and the attention
was created by a group of people,
I don't have to tell you.
The success that a lot of these people sell
in these courses or these closed groups is not necessarily how they got where they are. But after they get there,
they realize it's a way for them to monetize the success they've had. And I probably should stop
talking before I get myself in trouble or someone pissed off at me. But, um, Poppy GM, sir, pleasure,
a lot going on in your world. Probably didn't expect the title to be Crypto Isn't Cool Anymore this morning. But anything to add to this conversation? Any takes or thoughts?
I have a feeling I kind of guess how you'll net on this. But I am curious before we jump into
Quirk Kids and all that you're building, just thoughts on the space at large and is crypto
not being cool anymore per the kids? Is that necessarily a bad thing? Yeah, GM. And yeah, I really enjoyed the convo.
It was nice.
I was sitting here catching up on a bunch of stuff and just listening to you.
And, you know, I love Von Fronten.
Such a good guy.
I don't know where he went, but I guess he maybe had a role.
But yeah, just listening to you guys share some, you know, real observation and takes. And then I like how you dissected that I really
like the cold open um and how you dissected that gentleman's post I can relate to that a lot um
there was a lot of things that you know I felt good about as you were talking on that topic, because for me, I mean, I was just reflecting on
so many years of success and things that I thought were important and then becoming,
you know, losing my dad, um, having some miscarriages and then becoming a father,
um, and how that has drastically changed everything. Um, the way that
I wake up in the morning has changed. And so, um, and every, everything falls under that drinking
less. Um, I don't do drugs or any of that, but just, you know, letting go of material possessions,
letting go of the, it have, I have some nice watches, of course,
and nice things, nice house, but like not yearning for that, not, not waking up in the morning,
going, I need that, that dopamine rush. I don't sports gamble anymore. I really, if I go to the
casino, I expect to lose. I bring, you know, a little bit of cash and I'm like, cool. If I win,
I win. If I lose, I lose. I'm not doing things for sport.
I do fantasy football, baseball, and, uh, and I don't even play any tokens really in crypto
anymore. Um, so it was just really, it was cool. I could relate to that a lot. And, uh, going into
the new year, I'm going to try to like really buckle down on the diet, drink a lot less,
like really buckle down on the diet, drink a lot less, lose 30, 40 pounds, just like really get
back on my A game. Um, so I could be a good role model for, uh, for everyone that I, uh, impact
in my life. And, you know, I think we all need to think that way. So yeah, I really enjoyed it
in the crypto topic. It's very interesting. I think you have to understand psychology and personality and,
and, you know, Cap, you'll probably relate to this, but, you know, on, you could just Google
it for color personality types, and you can understand that there's some baskets of different
types of people. And when you understand this, you don't solve the issues of the world,
but you do start to understand why some things stick for some and not for others.
And I think in the beginning, when I was introduced to crypto,
the decentralization, the no tax.
Yes, at one point, there was like no tax on crypto i think early like 2018 when that first bear
market really really began is when the government's like oh yeah you're definitely paying tax
on your crypto before that it was everyone's narrative was no tax so um you know was it was
the especially bitcoin in the early days it was the anti-government and so you attract
a lot of blue people uh you attract a lot of red people you also attract a lot of you know people
that are trying to circumvent you know regulators feds etc um and you know that has changed
dynamically quite a bit.
I think people were begging for this last meme coin market.
And I just sat quiet going, I don't want it.
Because when something happens and it's not premeditated, preplanned, or expected, there's some magic. Like the first meme coin coin run i did very well because i had been
in doge for such a long time i bought doge you know for peanuts when nobody you know one youtuber
was talking about it and then it exploded and i think people expected that same meme coin mania to do it again.
And there were some good ones this cycle.
Actually, let me take that back.
I redact the good word.
But there were some powerful meme coins this cycle.
The problem is that people were prepared.
The devs were plenty.
Too many devs.
Too many people trying to create these tokens create websites
try to make them look legit so they could lure people in using buzzwords like ai and there was
so much foul play in this recent meme coin mania that the big ones will catch the slack, but it's the smaller ones, um, where people lost,
you know, a few soul here, a few soul there. And that slow cut death by a thousand cuts. Right.
Um, and I was, I was in it for a little while, like in a small group, these guys would try to
call out CAs and I would put two soul in three soul in and I lost every time every single
time and I was like eventually I'm like I think I've lost like a hundred soul this is stupid what
am I doing you know and I'm like that's it done I think that um we've kind of evacuated
uh a lot of the like super red and super blue.
But I think crypto is very cool.
I think crypto is super innovative.
I just think that crypto is not a place to go and gamble.
I don't think crypto is a place to,
and obviously you make strategic gamble.
So let me say that,
but it's not a casino.
It's not,
it's not built for that.
And so I think I, I just echo what Von Fronten said,
and that's exactly a great segue into a more important topic,
which is the move we made yesterday. That is exactly why I did acquire this brand
and then move into what I believe is a long-term, stable,
attainable strategy, goal, and vision.
I love it. Excited to dive in more. And also you referenced my friend. He did,
he did tag me and said to let you know that he had to run. Tell Poppy it wasn't, it wasn't you.
He did have to run. And we probably kept him past his nine o'clock meeting, but
let's talk about this. Let's talk about quirk kids.
Let's talk about this move. I, again, I know this is going to be taken out of context and
someone's going to take it as a shot towards someone else. It's just a real example. That's
the most current thing on my mind to contrast what you did yesterday. And it wasn't just, I I'll,
I'll flash up here on screen. If you haven't caught it yet the new pfp for the day here is this honorary court kid uh i love it it's uh i've gotten two honoraries
this year that um really stood out because of just the the art that worked on and the quality
of the honorary uh it's only two times i changed my PFP to the Good Vibes Club honorary for a day.
This Quirk Kid, I'll let you highlight the artists and everyone else.
I know there's a ton of work that went into this.
So I loved it.
I love the new art.
Let you share all the details.
And when someone asked like new art, my first comment was, yeah, they gave, gifted their holders, their supporters, new art, new IP.
When someone asked like new art,
There's intent and plans to do things with the new art and the new IP.
And they, again, gifted it to their holders and supporters.
Didn't ask them to go mint another secondary collection
for one to three Solana.
No offense to the 2D good vibes clubs out there.
They gifted 5,500 hand-drawn art pieces
to their existing holders and collectors.
And Poppy, I'll let you take it from there.
But I think it's a very different approach than we see many NFT native teams take when,
okay, we know we need to find product market fit.
We know we need to generate revenue to be an ongoing concern to build a sustainable business.
And often that path for many is, we'll do another token sale, whether it's NFT, a secondary or third or fourth collection or another token collection.
I appreciate the different approach and the hard work and hustle that's went into getting to this point.
So that said, tell us about Quirk Kids.
And again, I was going to tag the artist. I followed her last night and I'm a big, big fan of the art. I
can't remember the handle though, to properly credit this morning. So do you mind starting
there and then whichever direction you want to go with it? Yeah. Yeah. Well, look, I'm happy to be
here. And when there's some stuff to unpack, so I'll do my greatest stay on course.
But first off, I'm very grateful to be here.
Obviously, this has been, for the last couple of years,
the place where if I have the time in the morning, I like to spend it.
So I thought, as we're coming into, um, this post reveal, um, the first place that I
wanted to speak about this was obviously on our space and then here. Um, but I didn't ask to be
on the show before because I didn't want to create any crazy hype. That's not what this was about.
And that's not really our philosophy i i want to be
a magnet for good people in the space um but but quirkies is not really a place to come and flip
you know so i i i was very strategic about okay when i want to dive deeper and
you know talk to a good audience so at least they know what we're doing.
I don't know if anybody here is going to grab a quirky or not,
but I think we need to start
inspiring builders and leaders in this space
by our actions, not just by our ideas.
The day of the roadmap is kind of in the past, right?
I think that teams now that care
just worry about executing
and attracting the good people that are still here and understand it.
And then eventually we'll be able to attract, you know, people from the outside world.
And as I'm building, that's something that I'm always thinking about, you know.
So I appreciate being here.
I just wanted to say that.
It's an honor always to just, obviously,
our friendship is real, and I admire that more than anything, but being able to come here and
listen most of the time, but be able to speak today about what we did is a great platform and
an opportunity that I'm excited for. So yeah, the artist, which was really interesting, I'll get to her in a second.
So I've been a part of, and I think it's just this backstory a little bit is important.
I've been a part of Quirky since basically the second week from the Mint. They minted at 0.05
in February of 22. I at the time was pretty new to NFTs. I was not new to crypto.
I had just lost about a million bucks in a token project that I really believed in. And
apparently I was the only person that was like being forefront and everyone else was,
you know, selling into my buys while smiling at my face.
So it's okay.
It was a tough lesson.
But yeah, I shipped about 250 Ethereum that way and really was committed and, you know,
trying.
And, you know, I was okay after that.
It just was, it was like, all right, you know, we're going to, we're going to pivot here
because you can't, you can't do anything about it.
And a buddy of mine, you know, got me into NFTs and I was just exploring, you know, proof
pass was my first NFT purchase for like 70th.
This was far before they ran to a hundredTH and Moonbirds came and all that.
But, you know, VFriends, World of Women, and then a mutant.
And I was just trading bored apes and learning about the ecosystem
and started shipping a lot of my Ripple and other big crypto holdings into NFT.
And, you know, sorry, my wife called.
One second. I'm just going to text her.
She's out Christmas shopping. So, um, she's hit me up for something, but anyway, um, you know, I, I had found quirkies and, uh, I saw one of the guys that I was doing mutant and board
doing mutant and board ape trading with on the timeline post these quirkies. And I'm like,
ape trading with on the timeline post these quirkies. And I'm like, Oh, these are cute.
oh, these are cute. And he wrote something like, you know, um, I think this is the next doodles.
Um, but it's only 5,000 in the collection. And I had actually just purchased a doodle at the time.
I think they were like eight or 10 ETH. And I went, oh my God, it was strictly supply and demand.
I was like, there's only 5,000 quirkies. There's 10,000 doodles. The art is very colorful. The line work is really clean. Let me grab a couple. And then I just
getting on spaces, meeting people in the community, um, you know, just getting to know the culture and
stuff. I just got deeper and deeper. I would end up sniping one, sniping two. Um, and then I started getting
aggressive, you know, I would be on these spaces fired up. I'd go sweep. Um, and then somebody
challenged me, they were, you know, talking smack and they, they, uh, traded 24 quirkies for my
mutant ape. And they proceeded to, you know, make fun of me and quirkies in this, uh, chat that we were in
for about a year. Um, and it just, there was, there was a few things that kept putting this
like, all right, cool. Now I'm really going to go harder and I'm going to go harder just to prove
the point. And, um, and we just kept building and showing up every day. And so anyway, the
opportunity to acquire the brand came in September of this year, finally.
And we made the announcement and I shipped a hoodie punk to do it.
And we got to work.
And one of the first things that I wanted to do was address the IP.
Because I think the Quirky's IP is great. And I think the collections are great, but there was a lot of unfinished business. My good friend, DunkedCookie
calls it hygiene. And I said, yeah, there's a lot of hygiene that we need to do to this brand
because if you have a messy room and you're single,
you're not bringing a girl home, right? It's like the same thing. Like I want to,
it's like a funny thing, but like, you know, if you have a messy car, you know, you're going to
be embarrassed when you go to pick up your friends. And I just believe that everything
starts with a clean, a clean mind, a clean slate, a clean table. And so we went in and started to clean up
and build the foundation for the first few months, um, put together an advisory board of,
of really great people who care. And, um, and then I had this spark, this idea that
really started with me asking this question, like what age are quirkies? Right. I was like,
what, what age? And I'm like, they're teens and adults. And, you know, having a two-year-old son, we're consuming
content constantly and I'm competitive. I'm like, man, this content's not that good. I can do better
than this. Like, that's my mind. Right. I'm like, okay, I can do better than this. And so I had a
chat with one of my friends, Dr. Luby. He proposed, showed me this business model he wanted to build,
social and emotional learning app for kids using like NFT IP.
And I said, bro, we got to talk on the phone.
I called him and I said, yo, this is great,
but you don't need to build new IP for this, bro.
Let's use Quirky's IP.
It's already great. it's already family friendly i said and i've been thinking about doing a kid's ip already but i just you know i'm not sure how to do it and so that's where it began
and uh shout out to jed uh i hit up jed and i, Hey, like what artist do you think could nail this?
And he gave me a few people. He said, yo, I got a few, few people. Um, he goes, I'll ask them to
draw like an infant quirky and we'll send you over a bunch of ideas and you can just take a look at
it. I said, okay, great. Well, two days later, I have three samples and one like really stood out. And I was like, damn,
this one's great. And that was from Amali who we ended up deciding to go with. Her handle is
Red Goat Queen. I actually am now convinced she's one of the best artists in the space because, uh, she, she, she knocked us out of the park and was so humble and hard
working and I don't know, it got me emotional. I sent her like way more money than we agreed on.
And I was just like, I still don't ever, I don't even know if I'll ever feel fully, uh,
like fully in, in, uh, in the, in the, even with with her because she she works so hard um and she's in
morocco and this became her full-time gig for two months it's all that she did 12 to 14 16 hours a
day um which is really cool because molly was actually around quirkies in the very beginning
and so she was like crying on our spaces last night and all the feedback and the comments
she was awake till like i don't even think she slept she was just up commenting replying so um
you know shout out to molly and like her work i'm just uh i'm really super grateful because
it made this experience phenomenal for the space.
I think it's a great thing, which we'll get into, but it really made it phenomenal for our holders.
And a lot of our holders have been around since Mint or since 22, 23 and hold huge bags
and don't care about the day-to-day BS of the space.
So the best thing I can do for them every morning is wake
up and just keep building and deliver and be consistent and communicate and be vulnerable
when we're wrong. And, uh, so to give them a W like this was very powerful. Um, and it was super
well-received. So yeah, that, that's the little bit of the backstory and, uh, the artist Molly
absolutely destroyed it, but it was cool. It was a cool process cap because,
you know, we, I had to keep it super low key so I could only put together a small group
of like super trusted people who don't go leak information. Um, and we were able to
take some of the, some of the traits were perfect, right? We didn't have to
touch anything, but some of the traits were a little more edgy. Like there's a Medusa head
trait and we didn't want to put that in a kid's collection. So we did gummy worms, uh, the beard,
you know, kids don't have beards. So we did like a bubble bath, which is my PFP. Um, and along the
journey we ended up, she was putting these like little toys. There was a doctor, there's a, there's a doctor trait.
And she put this stethoscope toy and I'll, and we were like, oh my God, we should get
every kid a toy.
And then it was like, we should get, give every kid a companion.
And so we ended up doing stuffed animals for every single one, uh, for every single body
trait, there was a companion and a lot of those companions,
then we hit like this, oh my God moment where it's like, wait, why don't we put every single
quirkling one of one as a companion? So now, even though this activation is not for our quirkling
holders, we are still amplifying the quirkling IP. So when people are now shopping for a Quirky,
you're not just shopping the OG Quirky anymore. You're really looking at the toggle of your OG
Quirky, how it looks as a kid and how it contrasts or how it meshes with the companion. And so technically
you're looking at three characters when you're collecting. And that experience in my head was
like the most exciting part. And I got to give credit where credit's due. We were not sure what
to do and how to get this art out at first and don't cookie has been such a good
friend and and is literally available he's like bro you can call me whenever and i really try not
to bother him but i said yo i have an idea and i want to run it by you and for those who don't
know cookie i'm sure he's been up he hangs around this space but he him and his team are widely responsible for a lot of
the really good stuff that happens um in fact you know wrecked um they're an agency for for wrecked
um ov and mando are part of that agency i mean it's pretty special. And Cookie is brilliant. And so is the team.
And so he goes, bro, he's like, you should do the toggle with this.
And I got to give him credit because I was stuck on distribution.
I was like, I want to get this out.
I want to give the IP to the holders.
I don't want it to be a mint, but I don't want it to be an airdrop either because it'll just cause further dilution.
You know, we don't need that. We have a few collections. And the toggle was like the instant
light bulb moment. Like, oh my God, dude, this is crazy because Quirkies are holding up very stable.
You know, there's not a ton of volume coming in, but there's also not a ton of people that are looking to exit the project.
There's collectors and there's a real community.
So when people join, they're like, oh my God, this is home.
And that's what we've tried to create, a place to call home in Web3.
when you take a stable product, a stable brand, a stable, uh, art, and then you add more art to it,
it just makes it more appealing. You know, last yesterday, five or six new people joined quirkies
that have been on the fence or watching or know about it for a long time. And a few of them didn't have an OG they resonated with
or didn't understand the vision of the project
or didn't understand where we were going.
And I think yesterday, what it ended up doing,
because of the way we launched it and all the pieces
and the website, quirkkids.com is incredible
all of that coming together i think it gave people a lot of peace because we didn't do any
kind of a race so they see that look at some point yeah we're gonna we have collectibles we
want to launch like we have some things we want to do but we're not a money first like let's go to
our community and make money.
That's not our goal. Even when we do our apparel, if you spend a hundred bucks, we give you 15 bucks
back every time in a gift card. Like we're, our model is not, let's go make money off our holders.
Our model is let's build a brand. And I think they got clarity, peace. And in this market right now, where people are making decisions, if they still even want to be around or if they like NFTs enough, it was very refreshing to not receive negative feedback, really, from anybody.
And most importantly, to get some people from the outside going, oh my God,
now I need to be in this.
So I'll stop there and throw it back to you, Kat.
Well, I think the, the one thing I think that jumps out to me, as I mentioned, it's a, you did choose the toggle.
You chose to gift the new art as opposed to selling another collection.
I know from, especially when you're paying an artist artist that can be a challenging decision to make i think in the current climate the proper decision from my perspective just
one man's opinion but i again appreciate the it's hard to look if you're a holder a community member
it's hard to view this in any negative light you eliminated any of those objections. And not saying that NFT-native brands
shouldn't sell products.
They should.
There's a time and place,
especially if we're talking additional collections,
additional art, et cetera.
And I know we're not here to talk floor prices
and number go up or number go down.
That's not the most important thing,
especially for those that are building
with a long-term perspective.
But if you want to do comparisons over the last couple of months, especially since 1010, when most of the NFT marketplace is down really bad, not just NFTs, but most of, I mean, majors, sure.
But most non-majors, most alts, most NFTs have gotten, it's been a bloodbath.
And there's been highs and lows but i over the past year
quirkies is one of the best performing nfts in fact i think it's almost maybe maybe has 2x in
like the last month like it you know maybe not exact but it's been it's been a steady climb up
over since 1010 and most can't say that most sold off at 10 10 and it's been a slow bleed out since whereas quirky's
took a maybe a small hit on 10 10 and then it's just been it's climbed up from the
you know 0.25 ish 0.3 is all the way back up to you know 0.6 this morning so maybe it's more than
a 2x in in a short period of time when there's very very few nft collections that can say that
and you said something like oh we're not you're not seeing a flood of buys or, but you're also not seeing a flood of sell selling. If we're talking collectibles,
like some people aren't going to like this, but I think this is how NFT should be traded. It's the
anti-blur farming. It's, we shouldn't be incentivizing people to bid on NFTs and then
dump those NFTs into bids. That will kill momentum. That will drive floors lower. We've seen that happen. You're attracting two true collectors, two true community advocates.
And you see that by the space last night. You see the reception that the core community has had as
a result of this. And I'm sure there was someone who tried to find something wrong with it because
you're very challenging to make everyone happy when you've got thousands of community members.
But from everything I saw in the timeline in your space last night,
nearly unanimously received well. And I would go as far as like raving fans, like really excited
about the new art, the new direction. And it's okay if you only have a few sales. I actually
have a data point. I'll get your thoughts on that. And I have another data point that we haven't
talked about. I hope you don't mind me sharing, but, um, we didn't mention, well, go ahead.
Any, any, any thoughts? Yeah, I do. I do want to, just so we don't lose that part. I think,
you know, what's, what's interesting and I don't, I don't have it in front of me, but
I think one of the things that is a big factor that didn't make sense to everybody when we did it but it makes a lot of
sense now and i'm really proud the former team made the decision to do this was upgradable
contract sunset the original about two three years ago and come with 721c that has been so big because we were we're able to
dictate when we don't want to participate in something and i think that's really important
because you know look somebody said well we're not like nobody's people have said this to me before nobody's
farming quirkies and i'm like that's good like we are not a nft from my perspective
that is a farmed nft like i don't this is not a financialized nft do we want the value to go up
absolutely our holders are very happy and our philosophy is
clearly working for them. And for, you know, when you, I don't like comparing, but you know,
when you look at data and you specifically look at data, it's hard to make the argument against
what we've done. And that's block blur for over two plus years that's enforced royalties for two plus years and look this
activation yesterday was funded by the royalty wallet you can go look at the royalty wallet
you'll see every penny that i spend everywhere it's not going to my pocket not a single dollar
you'll never see it um and i think that the community bought into that and then we put the money where the
mouth is and um and i just want to say this cap like i i think that from that perspective
the holders have to feel comfortable and the most painful thing look Look, I've collected every quote unquote blue chip NFT. I've sunsetted,
I've round tripped multiple seven figures, um, in this space on brands that I still love. So
I'm not going to name them because it'll sound like I'm targeting them and I'm not,
but I've lost a lot of money on some of those bigger projects. And I feel that if royalties were still a thing, then a lot more would happen
because compensation drives behavior, number one. And number two, when there are no barriers and no
gates to a city, you're going to have destruction at some point. Somebody is going to find a
vulnerability and try to game any system that involves money. And without royalties, the system
can be gamed, period. There's no other way to say that. I swear on my daughter's life.
Papi, I did not discuss this. This was not a setup. This is not a bit.
The exact place I was going to go is where he just went.
And I have the chart pulled up.
Before I show it though,
I'd like you all to guess if you've been listening in,
we've already said Quirkies is not a collection that people are farming.
It's not like you're not going to see a lot of sales,
a lot of buys,
a lot of sales,
a lot of buys,
a lot of sales.
What do you think they've earned in royalties in the past month, the past week? If you want to go back further, so it's not just maybe activity
around the, this new activation or the new art, what do you think they've made in royalties over
the past month? I think many of you'd be surprised. I also get not setting this up, just pure
coincidence. We had a conversation about this exact topic earlier this week
and i am adamant royalties are a good thing for artists for creators in this space and
i've and i got some pushback ian who i respect and and i understand his his his perspective
that it's not fair for someone they bought they they bought a mutant for 10 ETH and then
they go to sell it today for 0.7 ETH and they're paying a royalty on a big loss like that. I
understand those frustrations. It's not the collection's fault. It's not the brand's fault
that we overcooked the space. We, we, the NFT mania was a bubble. It doesn't mean it's over
just like the.com bubble didn't mean the internet was a fad and went away.
It just meant that a lot of assets got over-hyper-financialized, over-evaluated, and we needed a healthy pullback.
We needed the correction.
So I get when people don't want to pay royalties to teams they feel abrogged or haven't delivered
on their promises.
I understand all that.
But the reality is, it's not everyone here.
And for artists, part of what attracted me to blockchain tech and digital art on chain is the fact that an artist can grow in their career and get paid in perpetuity off their original works. That's powerful.
example like yeah could they extract and bring royalties and put them right in their pocket
they could it's not even extracting it's it's them getting paid as a as a team as a founder
they wanted to use royalties for payroll they have a team that can support and maybe do more
stuff whether we're using like the the yuga example and there were like easier to see things
like ape fest being funded in perpetuity if there's royalties there if there's no royalties
there well they've got to make money other ways. Teams can choose what to do with their
royalties and they can choose to align with their community and do value add back to their community,
back to those original token orders. In this case, you chose to drive value back to your
original token orders by giving them a second piece of art. Now, is that going to send the
floor price 2X? Probably not, but that's not the goal of this. Is it going to bring a bunch
of new people into your community overnight? Not overnight, but you've got now something,
new IP, new art. There's a plan, which we'll get into that in a second.
But again, I think royalties are net positive. It's part of what created the excitement. It's what brought so many builders to this space. Did it bring some extractors and grifters? It did. But it also brought a lot of good builders to the space. And quirkies don't have to be your thing. Poppy doesn't have to be your thing. We need more builders like Poppy. We need more people that are building. They're here to create a brand, grow a brand, and remain aligned with their core supporters and
help value accrue back to those supporters in one way or another.
And I'll just say this, Cap, too. Sorry. There's an important piece to this that maybe
some people don't consider about some kind of royalty, right? Bots. Yep. The bots. The bots,
when you, there have been times when we have like right now i think
there's one quirky with a bot you know where that where that quirky is listed number six
on the floor there's been time two sorry there's two it's number one position and number six
um there's been times where we have after one one of the OpenSea treasure drops, we had like eight in bots and the floor barely moved.
And that is important because holder psychology is key.
And I've watched this and I don't even know if this is an arguable point.
Because I held my apes from, you know, 130 ETH floor down to 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Okay.
And I love apes, by the way. So it's not fun. I'm just being honest. I held the whole thing.
Millions of dollars. So this is what really is unfortunate about the bots.
If you get, if you get, there's two or three different types of bot styles.
One of them just matches the bottom floor price. Some of them undercut and they undercut fast or
slow. So you got three types, slow undercut, fast undercut, no undercut. The ones that undercut,
they undercut aggressively. And if there's other bots in play,
you can simply just from bots see the floor price drop 10% very quickly.
And that kills morale.
And I remember there was a great holder.
His name was Andrew.
He was part of Quirky's.
He was amazing, dude.
One of the best guys.
Huge pillar.
He had probably 30 quirks.
Showed up every day. And when Bl when blur started he got so demoralized by the farming the dumping the all the wash trading
he literally left the space yep he left he's like dude i love quirkies i wish i still talk to him to
this day but he's like i came here to collect i donies. I still talk to him to this day. But he's like, I came here to collect.
I don't have the mental capacity for this.
I'm too busy.
But I certainly don't want to see all my stuff get farmed to zero.
And I'm like, I get it.
Well, I want to congratulate you, the former team, for making that move.
I've been beating this drum for a while.
I think not all.
Like, I don't meet it's my personal
opinion i really don't want to see my ape migrated to a new contract it's part of my web three journey
it was one of the it was the first nft i made it on on mainnet and that that provenance provenance
means something to me i know it doesn't mean something to everyone and if your ape's been
traded around 50 times and it was blur farmed and you don't really, maybe it doesn't meet and you bought it this week.
Maybe it doesn't matter that the only activity on the blockchain was you
minting that asset and then sending it to your vault. Like that, that to me,
it's, it's meaningful. Like,
I don't want to see that happen with apes if they did it or gave a choice to
their holders. I would understand because royalties matter.
Royalties are important.
I think for most NFT collections,
they should consider making a similar move because they're leaving.
This is where I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because there's a lot of teams that are really struggling to find a way to generate revenue.
And most of them, the answer's right in front of them.
And they're just not making the move. They're not even making an attempt to to generate revenue. And most of them, the answer's right in front of them. And they're just not making the move.
They're not even making an attempt to create more revenue.
And I think people underestimate.
And I've said it many times.
I've used Good Vibes as an example earlier.
They made it in 2025.
Their contract protects royalties.
Others, like Quirkies, move to an upgraded contract
that allows them to do the same thing.
I'm also guessing that this toggle probably wasn't, you probably weren't able to do this in the original.
If you're not looking at the screen, I'm swapping between my Astro Quirky and my Astro Quirk kit.
I'm guessing this was part of the upgraded contract as well.
Yes.
Yeah, it definitely was.
Part of the tech in these digital assets is it is – you can program against it.
You can do new stuff, and having an upgraded contract, it allows you to do more.
Also, I just have to quickly get in there that my toy, the alien, I'm guessing is the
alien companion.
Is that with all Astro Quirkies?
Yes.
Yes, it is.
Again, I just, I appreciate the attention to detail, the thought, the intent that went
into this stuff.
It definitely has not went unnoticed, at least for me, but back to the royalty conversation, I kid you not, I had this chart up. I set it up without
saying it. I said, I hope you don't mind me sharing this because it is financial information.
And I didn't know that this is how you paid for the art. It makes sense. But exactly where I was
going to go next is some people will probably be shocked to see that in the last week,
quirkies have generated almost seven grand in royalties, $1,000 a day. That's not nothing.
And oh, by the way, the only ones larger on this list, I don't even know what
Chubit is, but then you've got Pudgy Penguins, you got Good Vibes Club, who I referenced earlier,
you got Moonbirds, Rovers, and then Quirkies. So of all the millions of NFTs out there,
the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of NFTs, Quirkies so of all the millions of nfts out there the tens of thousands of hundreds of
thousands nfts quirkies has generated more revenue than all but five of them ahead of even fog which
is a new mint ahead of art blocks which had a big uh a big activation recently and it's not just
all that's just because they just released new art and there's a lot of activity in the last 24 hours
it's not the case either if you look at the 30-day chart, Quirkies is actually number five on that.
Flogs is number one who just minted, and they generate, again, just minted, new contract,
generated $172,000 in royalties in the last month. I bet that shocked some people. I bet
there's people here who had no idea there's an NFT collection that made, I'm going to repeat it,
$172,000 in the last 30 days. I'm not good at math either. So I have to do the math on that,
but that's about 2 million a year, if I'm correct. And now that amount, fresh collection,
a lot of trading after mint and reveal, et cetera. Sure. Maybe not sustainable. Good vibes club
minted earlier this year. They've generated $ generated 48 000 in the past month again
50 000 in the past month that's not nothing that's that that you can do a lot of things
when you're generating 50k a month that is it doesn't take new cost there's no new cost of
good sold there's no new labor that necessarily i mean yes they're continuing to build they're continuing to build, they're continuing to communicate with their community, but it's not like there's a real cost of goods sold to generate that revenue.
Royalties are extremely high margin, and these teams can choose to put that back into their community. They can choose to drive value to their holder base if they want.
Moonbirds, 54 grand.
Quirkies in the last month, $27,000 of royalties,
which to Poppy said, that's how they paid for the art
is they're generating royalties
because of this new contract.
Why more?
Like to put that in perspective,
that's more royalties than art blocks,
more than Nakamigos, more than little pudgies,
more than big pudgies, more than bored apes.
Why aren't more teams doing this, Poppy?
I truly don't understand it.
Like your community is
going to push back well you know what else they're pushing back on is declining floor price and no
value accrues they actually don't push back you know here's this is the thing like we don't get
pushback on the royalties and if people like the only pushback that i've gotten are people who
actually are like flippers or there was one guy who's like, yo, I could be a market maker and, you know, trade stuff. And, and then he looked at everything and
sent me a message about five minutes later and goes, oh, nevermind. You guys have royalties on.
And I said, well, that's okay. It doesn't matter. I don't really like feel like we need a market
maker. Um, so it was okay. But you know, here, here's the reality. Um, I think since the acquisition, that number
is North of 50, $60,000 in royalties and every penny of it is allocated for we, we have our
budget. So we hired an animation studio, paid them a nice deposit, uh, invested $15,000 just in the characters, just in the models to, you know,
the like the puppets, you know, to get them rigged up and ready to go.
And we have most of our 2026 budget.
We have a consistent budget committed to X amount per month, short animations, gifts.
We have most of that allocated already. We funded Art Basel,
Pop-Up, which was five figures. We funded this art, which was also five figures plus,
the website, dev work, paying creatives, paying the team, and still have money sitting in there,
money sitting in there um which is amazing and i think the community actually buys into it
because we're transparent and vulnerable and not nervous about you know backdooring money or
whatever like there's there's nothing that we're hiding from that and so i think that was the most
important part because if look if the community is selling, like we, this is actually pretty, pretty,
this is actually pretty funny.
We have people that get offered OTC deals and say, no, let's do it on chain.
So they can pay the royalties.
That happens in Corkirkies a lot there was like a
couple weeks ago there was like i think there's been four or five hundred quirkies traded since
september 1st so we we have volume um but it's you know it's not uh you can't go dump 50 of them
it ain't gonna happen um but like we had all these rares trading and most of those took place on chain and
people were like, Hey, let's just do this this way instead of OTC.
And even the buyer was willing to pay a little bit more if that was the case.
Like a few times they decided, Hey, instead of 0.8, let's do 0.85 and we'll split the,
uh, you know, the, the percent when you, when you do things the right way, you know, the percent. When you do things the right way, you know, people buy into it because
it is ultimately a benefit. If we don't have money to build, we're not VC funded, we're
poppy funded, right? At the moment anyway. And I don't want to go sell this brand of VCs.
I don't want to be forced to do a token that specifically relies on waiting for the cliff,
you know, because when the cliff comes, you have to sell. Your VCs want to sell. You have to sell.
There's a lot of tokens that I invested in and I don't do ICOs anymore. I don't even like,
I don't even like, like SAFT agreements, right? Like an agreement for a future token. I
don't like it because I hate the slow vest. Yeah. Give me 200 tokens a month for the next three
years. I'm like, when it hits, it's like $10. I'm like, Oh my God, dude, what is this? I just don't
want to do it anymore. And I definitely don't want to like bring that to our holders that's why when um token work stuff started
uh i actually was excited because to me that solved that like big mystery of like
do i at some point have to launch a token because yeah we're going to be building and when you're
building and you have real sinks and real things
that you're doing a token can definitely make sense um but that pressure of like do i have to
launch a token who wants to build like that when you're actually really trying to build something
meaningful it's just a distraction every day um and so good vibes club came out did their thing with the strategy token
and they enforce royalties and i thought you know we can take that we could take this at
some point when we're ready we weren't ready at the time so So I didn't jump on that opportunity right away.
But I did open the dialogue.
And I said, we could take this opportunity and actually then tie like future real world
revenue back to the street token when we're doing streetwear sales, when we're doing all
this other stuff.
So anyway, yeah, not to go too off target, but like, I think that ultimately enforcing royalties has given us the solid foundation that we need to show up every day and actually, you know, grow with the community.
I know others can disagree and you're fair to have your opinions.
Personally, I would much, much, much, much, much rather, like 10 out of 10, would rather see it, 9 out of 10, because there's a few exceptions.
Like if, I don't know, there's no, if Node Foundation decides to port the CryptoPunks contract to a new contract.
Sorry, I don't know what, Duke's pumped about quirk kids um there'd be an uproar right
like i it's nine out of ten though i would much rather see an nft native brand upgrade to a new
contract enforce royalties as opposed to dropping a second a third third, a fourth, a fifth collection as a revenue generator? I do think cap in 2026, we will see it. I think we will see it from,
I don't know how we don't like, I don't know how you,
if you're an NFT founder and you see this and you're like, man,
what are we going to do to generate revenue? Like seriously,
it's an open book test. Now the answer is right in front of you.
Yeah. Like Chimpers does not have royalties on and that's heartbreaking because honestly they're one of the hardest working most consistent
teams and they don't have royalties and they they've still done very well and they've i don't
know i don't follow the treasury from their chimpster token i know they get one percent back
and i know that they've also reinvested a lot of that so like they're relying on you know their drops and they've done a good job they do great open
edition work they've done you know the uh blind box plushies and some other things but you know
imagine if they were enforcing a five percent royalty they'd be they'd be making 20 to 50 grand a month um because they have a great they
have a great project great art you know great holder base and i expect i expect them to do it
for sure i listed a mythic a member mythic the other day for above floor it's like if it flies
it flies i'll rebuy a floor just because it's one i i'd like to support the fencer spencer the
fencer and um my mythic is like a grail,
and I'm never going to do anything with the IP myself.
So someone that's really deep in that ecosystem
and loves the art, wants the grail, it's listed now.
You can go buy it.
I attempted to toggle on creator royalties,
and it's grayed out.
I attempted to pay royalties to Moonbirds,
and I couldn't even do it.
It wouldn't let me on OpenSea.
It's grayed out. The creator royalties are off by default, and I couldn't even do it. It wouldn't let me on OpenSea.
It's grayed out.
The cradle royalties are off by default and I couldn't even put it back on even though I wanted to.
How did we come so far from where we were?
And people will say I'll blur it and kill NFTs.
Not single-handedly they didn't.
But blur farming had a very negative effect, not just during the farming. I think it broke people. It broke teams. It broke communities. It killed momentum. Some people left the space
because they see a blur farmer sweeps 200 NFTs in the collection. They know they're not holding
them for long. They know it's only a matter of time before that ticking time implodes and the
floor goes crashing down. It's hard to gain get confidence in buying
into a collection when you see 10 of the collection is in supply of blur farmers who
the only reason they're holding them is to farm points and they're going to they're going to break
the floor sooner than not only break the floor they're going to rapidly undercut the floor
significantly like it's just for so many reasons it had a net impact on the space beyond just the floor price during the blur farming.
And I think it's just my speculation.
I still think a lot of teams haven't recovered from that.
And they think, oh, that's just the way it's been is the way it has to be.
And it's just not true.
You guys are a great example of that.
You upgraded to a contract years ago,
and now you're making almost $1,000 a day in royalties.
I bet if you go surveyed 100 NFT founders
and showed them a path to $1,000 a day in revenue,
they probably signed on the dotted line.
They'd insta-call you.
I'm in.
What do I do?
Well, you need to hire a good dev.
You need to upgrade to a new upgradable contract
and build some good comms.
That's one thing we haven't hit on this morning. And so I've got two questions.
One, I do need to give you credit for the communications.
We harp on so often that teams here, founders, they just they haven't put an emphasis on bringing leaders.
They haven't brought the executive team, their C-suite, a seasoned professional
that can communicate.
Forget hiring PR agencies and PR firms.
I get if you're not generating revenue, that's tough.
Very few NFT native founders have a similar background as yourself.
Like, I don't think you need to hire a comms person.
You are the comms person.
It's not just what you put on the timeline.
It's the one-on-one conversations that you give.
You invest in your community as good or better than any other founder that I've interacted with here.
And there's a lot of great ones, a lot of awesome ones, a lot of them that if I DM them and ask them to come on the show, they'll come on the show.
There's very few that I say, hey, man, I need to talk to you.
Can you carve out an hour of your day for me?
It may not be today.
It's the holidays, but I I'm 99% certain if I said, Poppy, I need it. I need to pick your brain. I need to
talk to you. Can I get an hour? You'd say, yeah, I can't today, but tomorrow, or yeah, you might
drop what you're doing and do it right then. Like there's very few founders that are as accessible
as you are. And it's not just reactive. It's often proactive. You reach out to me via DM more often than I
reach out to you. That's meaningful. That's like, I'm never selling my quirky. It's not a floor
pricing. It's not a, this is, oh, I'm biased because my bags. Unless there's some third
party or something else, I don't have any expectation of monetary gain off of a asset sale
where I have already gained from being a part of this community is the relationships and supporting
a builder that I think is moving the right way when so many are seemingly have given up or not
even making an effort to do things differently. They're just stuck in their use and all there's
no royalties. So now it's an excuse. Oh, we're just an art project. We're just art on chain.
That's all we're going to do. There's never going to be any utility. There's never going to be any
value driven back to our, our hoarder base because there's no more royalties. Well, BS,
stop making excuses, upgrade your contract. There are royalties. You just are choosing not to go
get them. Sorry. No, no, no, bro. Thank you, man. I'm, I'm very humbled by that. And that's, I'm grateful and I
will extend it. I will extend it. I've actually extended this and had a conversation with one of
my favorite, favorite people, great founder, literally one of the best. And I gave them my
thoughts on it and I think they're going to do it and I think they should do it and
I will extend this like we have a we have a very very good dev that is not over the top expensive
but he's super effective fast great communicator I'm happy to make an intro uh to anybody who is
even just curious um and most importantly you, if you're building in this space,
I don't need anything from you.
Obviously, if you own a quirky or something, that would be awesome.
But like, I don't care.
If you need help or you have a question, shoot me a DM.
I try to get to all of them.
If it's important, maybe we move it to Telegram or something
just so it doesn't get lost in the 7,000 group chats I feel guilty
leaving for all the projects that I'm in. But, you know, an ex DMs are not the best anymore.
They need to fix that up. But listen, I, if we're going to be good in this space and we're going to
be here, we have to create good experiences for people because when people have bad experiences,
a lot of the times they either pivot or leave. And every time somebody good leaves, that's somebody new that we have to go share this
vision with and sell to replace them. And that's not, that's not good for the space. It's like,
I used to work in Atlantic city, New Jersey, and it was dying, bro. And like every single casino
and everything was just dying. And it's like, if, if I ran a nightclub and like the times we weren't busy,
if on those slow nights, if a couple of people had bad experience,
they don't come back.
They probably tell their friends not to come back and we're already losing.
And we're already losing. So you're just losing on top of losing. I, I try to build in a way
So you're just losing on top of losing.
that inspires and look, sometimes you have to, you have to put people on their toes,
right? You have to go out and change things up a little bit, which is why ultimately after that
conversation with Dunked Cookie and talking to the advisor and stuff, we said, yeah, we're going to do the toggle.
We could have probably minted these and made,
we could have minted them for 0.02 ETH, maybe 0.03.
We would have minted out.
And we could have made significant money for sure,
maybe put a quarter million in the tank.
And I'm very aware of that.
But it wasn't the right time.
It wasn't the right time it wasn't the right activation
and i think that you know you've gotta you've gotta pick and choose your battles in this space
and by doing it this way i hope that some of the other builders feel confident i know chimpers is
actually adding a second type of art and they have a toggle.
So we're not the first to toggle.
DGods did toggle.
A few other feline friends, a few other projects have done the toggle.
But I believe we're the first to create like a whole second brand inside of the toggle.
And honestly, the art is subjectively better in a lot of cases and the attention to detail is
really there so yeah cap i just wanted to say that extend the offer if if you know you're a
part of a team and you're thinking about it or you have some questions of course i i always try
to be there our art is subjective and i don't mean any offense to the original artist i think
it's objectively better not only that and i don't mean i don't make any offense by this i
like the vision for the ip previously i was it was kind of fuzzy to me i know you've got streetwear
and street street like i know there i know there's you're you're building around that ip you're my
understanding you're going to continue to do so but in my brain this immediately resonated with
me especially and this is like i i'm gonna hand you when i hand you back the mic'm going to step away for just a few seconds. I need to do a mobile stream drop.
I'll be right back, but I'd love you. I, I, and I would, I mean, I got to get you out of here too.
We've kept you longer than I thought, but I would love you to expand on like, what's next. What's
the vision of quirkies? What's the vision of quirk kids? How do they tie together? You know,
I heard you talking about some, some content on YouTube and socials last night specifically for Quirk Kids. That really resonated with me. And to me, when I see the Quirk Kids IP, I was like, this reminds me of my childhood. This
reminds me of Saturday morning cartoons. I see a real vision toward this becoming really meaningful
IP far beyond the crypto sphere. It's not just going to happen by default. It's going to take a
team that's got some revenue coming in, in this case, by way of royalties right now,
that allows you to put out more content, put out those videos. And to me, it's just like,
again, I know art is subjective, but I think this is, in my brain, I see a very clear vision
to this IP proliferating. And I'm not saying that the quirky IP wasn't unique.
It was.
This, though, when you talk about kid-friendly IP,
I think it really stands out.
It's cute.
And we know the cute meta can work,
but it is different.
Again, it reminds me of Saturday morning cartoon IP
that I watched as a kid.
And so maybe that's the nostalgic, it's the heartstrings you're pulling on.
I'm not sure, but I do think you did a really, not just blowing smoke or Galatian because you're here.
I think you did a really good job creating new IP, new artwork that pulled from the OG traits.
And yeah, I've seen the others that have toggles and it's not the first time we've seen secondary or third art collections.
I've seen the others that have toggles and it's not the first time we've seen secondary or third art collections.
This, again, my opinion, I think it's the best we've seen it done yet.
And I hope other teams are listening.
I hope other founders are paying attention to this entire conversation today because you can drive value to your holder base.
You can upgrade to a new contract.
You can get royalties back.
You just have to do the thing.
So that said, do you mind sharing a little bit about the vision?
Like what might we expect from Quirk Kids? What do you plan to do with the IP?
Anything that you're comfortable sharing? And then how does that tie back into,
to Quirkies? And I'll be right. I'll be able to hear you. I'm just going to mute my video.
Yeah. Yeah. No, I love it. And this is like the emotional part, I think for me,
not like I'm going to cry here, but it, but it is, it is because a big inspiration
for this is being a father.
And being a present father.
I was talking about this last night.
But just being able to get my son to school in the morning some days.
The quirky office is pretty close to his school.
So that was a strategic move.
So I could take him most mornings,
pick him up most days, spend that time in the car intentionally, you know, watch the shows with him.
And because of that, I've been consuming content and watching and observing what he consumes.
And, you know, I have nieces and we have our
friends come over a lot with their kids. And so I've just been able to really observe for the
last few years, what that looks like. And, um, you know, that was a big inspiration
as we were building this brand and thinking about the vision and the action and
the execution. Because to me, this is like, it's like a mint, right? The work actually begins when
it's over, not, you know, going into it. So I didn't overhype the going into it because
now, now it's like, all right, we're here to build. But there was a few strategic moves that
we made. And I don't actually, it was funny. Nobody picked up on this in at least that I saw none of the posts, none of the comments
in the chat.
But one of the first things that we did was we switched from left facing to right facing.
And I don't know if he's on here, but nah, he's a good friend and he he's he was busting my
chops for like the last two years like bro if i'm not gonna buy a quirky till you move them
right facing and he ended up buying one right because because uh he found one that he liked
but like for a while he busted my chops yo i'm going to do it till you move them right-facing because right-facing is conversational.
And, you know, all the posts in the timeline.
Hold on.
Sorry.
People are blowing me up.
Who should be on the space?
So anyway, that was first thing.
That was first thing.
Second thing, the companions.
Second thing, the companions.
We did not give IP rights to the companions because the companions are attached to the one-on-one Quirklings.
But we gave full IP rights on the Quirk Kids the same way that you have the full IP rights on the Quirkies.
And by the way, all of this stuff can be unpacked at QuirkKids.com with one K in the middle.
So Q-U-I-R-K-I-D-S in the middle.
The K is in the middle, sorry. Not two K is one K. We really tried to create a super intentional
website with all the information, all the answers to the questions about the vision and the future.
But there's several actionables and things that we're getting into, but what we felt
was first and foremost important is to activate the community.
We could either be on a stage and this is theater or it's community.
And I think a lot of people in this space have it completely wrong.
They're on a stage because they think it's theater,
but they're calling it community.
That's not community.
Community is when you actually sit in the chair
next to your people.
You buy and collect your art because you genuinely love it.
You get on calls with leaders, people in your community.
You build relationships. You know on calls with leaders, people in your community, you build relationships,
you know their names, their families, you get in discord and have private conversations about
business. And, you know, you do spaces a couple of times a week and don't sit up in the ivory tower
waiting for the bull market to launch something. You know, we're not building a theater in Corky's,
launch something, you know, we're not building a theater in Corky's, building a brand. And to me,
the greatest driver of this brand is the community. So we gave them the IP and we're
empowering them to go build with it. And all I've seen the last 24 hours is people building with it.
People experimenting with Grok, ChatGBT, creating GIFs. I mean, damn, at this stage, I don't need a studio
because the community is the studio.
Now, we're still going to create our own native content,
but you get the point.
People are having fun.
People are building with this IP already,
and it's not going to stop.
The other thing that I thought was great,
and I'll get to the actual like roadmap
for us, but I wanted to share that because we've activated the community. We've given them the
tools and the weapons to go build. But I saw most of the people in the project change their PFP to
their Quirk Kid. That says a lot because we had people that have never changed from their original
Quirky since Mint moved to their Quirk Kid, which means that the IP hits.
Very important.
But the vision is this.
The same way that any real good IP would be proliferated is the philosophy and the way we're going to build.
Web3 can be a distraction.
To me, it's a weapon, right?
A weapon that we can use a tool in our favor
because we have people that love the brand already.
So we can try things.
We can get feedback.
I can throw up a poll and say,
hey, should we drop plushies, vinyls, statues?
You know, like I can get feedback from a community that
may or may not buy, but cares about the brand that's important. But what we need to go out and
do now is, is execute. And so we've already hired the studio. We've been working for two or three
months already. January should be January, late January. We'll get onto this consistent grade of content.
We're just, we're building out like six or seven characters. So if you do think about,
I mean, Cap, you hit it, bro. This is nineties nostalgia for me, bro. We grew up around the
same time, the Nickelodeons, you know, Rugrats, Ashley called it Rugrats. And I never thought
about it as Rugrats, but I'm
like, Oh, this is the cool new Rugrats. I've always seen Quirkies as the cool new Rocket
Power. If you don't know Rocket Power, go Google it. It was my favorite show growing up.
And it reminds me of a lot of this old stuff that doesn't exist anymore. It only exists in the
vaults. There's very little new Bluey. A lot of people were comparing this
to bluey yesterday. The blue is a good comparison. So the vision is, is tangibly, uh, we're going to
build socials, uh, TikTok, Instagram, um, Quirkies will be in that conversation of the web three
brands that are proliferating on social media in 2026 for sure
so gifs short animations 8 to 15 second cute stuff um and the project that we we look at the most is
chimpers they've done such a good job at that pudgy as well um youtube learning content this is a big
one for me i watch my son son. He's obsessed with colors,
daddy colors, daddy colors, daddy colors. And it's just this video on YouTube of a guy
just talking about colors and painting and doing different things. And my son wants to watch it
three times a day when he's upset. He wants to watch it. It makes him happy. ABC or the other
one, ABCD. That's what he says. ABCD, daddy, ABCD. And he just wants to sing the alphabet. He loves it. It makes him happy. Um, ABC or the other one, ABCD. That's what he says. ABCD,
daddy, ABCD. And he just wants to sing the alphabet. He loves it. A is for Apple. B is
for baby. He, so I am going to create ABC one, two, three color, like some nursery rhyme stuff,
wheels on the bus, old McDonald. And I know for some of you probably don't care, but if you have kids, you should care because not all content that they're consuming is actually
productive. Good. When we're raising our son, we don't want him to be an iPad baby,
but he's very advanced for a two-year-old. And that's because I read with him. My wife reads
with him. My mom reads with him. He knows how to count to 20. He's two years old. He counted 20 in Spanish. That's important
for me because if I die in a year, but I left this legacy behind and Quirkies was attached to
that legacy, that's like the greatest fulfillment to say, hey, did we impact the next generation?
Because this generation, it is what it is. I can't fix 30 year old people who made money in
meme coins last cycle and are now depressed because they're not going to make money in meme coins next cycle. I can't fix that. But what I what I can try to do as a builder is make an impact on the next generation, which as a God fearing man, I believe is is important.
I have a couple out of Germany that I love.
I've known them for 10 years.
They already did one quirky coloring book.
They're already working on the new one.
But we're not just going to build them ourselves.
We're actually going to work with our dev to create an AI generator for coloring books
that people can print out.
Maybe you'll have a huge gallery of content. So you can print these pages out. Your kids can color them. Jed can use
them in his steakhouse. People can go to their local restaurants and bring, you know, these
pages and say, Hey, have your kids coloring quirkies, quirk kids stuff. Um, and we'll have the community doing that. Um, gift, gift creators,
uh, sticker creators. Um, and then eventually the goal is this, uh, long form content. You know,
we have friends that come to this space that most of you probably don't even know work for
Amazon or Disney or like some pretty big brands. They come here and hang out every day. Most people have no
idea what they actually do or who they are. But I got, you know, yesterday, it was very cool, Cap.
Outside of the community, I had four friends that I really respect, Dunked Cookie being one of them,
that all messaged me like really heartfelt things. And one of them is like an IP guy for 30 years, does some of the
biggest comic book and IP stuff in the world. One of them works for a huge company that does
production. Like these messages were, Hey, we need to talk in the new year. I love what you're doing.
This is a major power move, that type of energy. And that's exciting for me because I do want to
create, you know, it would be really cool.
And I do want to create a TV show.
I'm not promising that that's not on the roadmap.
Don't buy a quirky thinking that there's going to be a TV show, but that is on the bucket
list, right?
It would be really cool to create stuff that we can bring and present to some of these
bigger brands like Hulu or Disney or Amazon and say, look at this.
This is unique. This is unique. This is cute.
This is fun. And there's real story behind it. And so we are creating tools for the community. I'll wrap there. And most importantly, we are going to take some ownership
and the royalties will help pay for this. So, uh, it's, it's a full circle. Great thing. Um,
quirkies are still relevant. Very, uh, we have quirky stuff in the other side in some other
video games. We've got a huge partnership that we signed, um, last month around Thanksgiving.
I haven't even talked about that yet. It's more of a partnership
for our Quirk Life apparel brand, which we're super excited about. Our streetwear is great.
Everybody's been getting it. This was the icing on the cake yesterday. Quirk Kids hit, but almost
everybody's orders hit. Like 100 orders were delivered yesterday or the day before. And
everyone was satisfied or beyond satisfied with the quality of what
they got on,
the quirk life.com,
which is our streetwear brand.
So anyway,
that's,
that's what I got cap.
I don't know if you have anything else,
but thank you so much.
Such amazing time,
bro.
Thank you for your time.
Appreciate your leadership.
We need more people in the space moving like yourself.
And I just,
I appreciate it. It's refreshing. I've used that word a few times with with recent guests and it uh for
for opening the day with with uh you know crypto isn't cool anymore i i'm going to quote monkey
zoo in the chat who says exactly for for who gets excited about proper secure custody solutions i'll
tell you the real world like this space is maturing and it's, it's not just about a short-term flip. It's, it's for some of us, it's never been just about a
short-term flip. I get, that's why a lot of people came here and a lot of those people now, they're
finding it boring because there's not a hundred X every day or, or the potential for one. That's
okay. That's normal. It's a sign of a mature market, not one that's in a bubble. It just, it's, this
stuff doesn't just happen by default though. It does take leaders
moving with intent and I appreciate the voting in public and, you know, continue to drive value
back to your, you know, your OG holders, your core community, your supporters. I'll say this,
two things in closing. Well, actually one thing on, on, on quirk kids and quirkies, and then
I'll hand it back to you if there's any call to action, any, any final thoughts, anything that you would, you know, what should everyone do if they, if this is their first time hearing about quirkies. And then I'll hand it back to you if there's any call to action, any final thoughts, anything that you would, you know, what should everyone do if they, if this is their first time
hearing about quirkies and quirk kids, what should they do following here? What should they be paying
attention to? I will say a little older than yourself. So like my brain goes to Fraggle Rock
and I don't, again, I don't mean any offense to- I love Fraggle Rock rock you sound like a fraggle rock character macaveli um i i um
this is better art this is better art than fraggle rock but it just like for whatever reason that's
that's where my brain goes when i think uh when i think the queer kids and even the quirky so it's
like i know no pressure on the tv show i'll be looking forward to the you know the animations
the shorts i do think there is a massive need in
the world for more good quality kids educational content and to do that through cute ip it just
it just works i also not trying to make it pvp or the comparison but someone asked like what's
the new direction and i said this you know a new division not a pivot per se but a new division and
i like it too it's like it's like be friends but
different you know as far as like the pretty good out there and perfect timing with the quirky uh
from the little one but he just came in my office and he's like he's like trying to press my phone
but he's looking at everybody's pfps what is that ju Tuju? Great. Aw.
He loves it, dude.
He's obsessed.
So I said yesterday, sorry, Cap.
If anything, I got the win because if nobody else likes what we did,
my son loves it, and he just loves to sit on the website
and toggle through the art and look at it with me.
Right, buddy?
It's great.
Too cute. Too cute.
Too cute.
Put him in the videos.
In all seriousness, no, really love how you're moving.
Congrats on the success.
Congrats to the artist.
And appreciate how you've got this new art out in the world.
Excited to continue to support and follow along.
That said, is there anything that you'd like to see everyone do?
Is there anything, any call to action anything like it leaving here if someone wants to learn more if they want to um get involved if they want to you know just pay attention from the
sidelines what's what's the what's any takeaways you want to leave with that that's awesome it's
such a great great great space today i really lost track of time nor did i care it's like good genuine conversation is always
important um so thank you again cap always not lost on me once started i thought we'd be doing
like we just moved like a 90 minute maybe a 60 minute show and i got pain shaking his head in
the background at me because like i think every day this week we've ran like two and a half hours
so you and uh and hanging out longer than we intended my apologies pain listen
pain we love you and there's there's pros and cons to steve not being around as much because
steve would have cracked the whip 30 minutes ago and said we gotta go but we love you steve we miss
we miss you um no cap i uh you know one of the things is, I think the major thing is this.
Look, my DMs, and this is like suicide for most founders, but I actually enjoy it.
The DMs are open.
So if you have any questions, you're looking at buying a quirky and you don't know where to start.
Honestly, in quirkies, you could always start at the floor because there's usually fire listed.
I mean, there's great ones listed on the floor literally right now.
So you don't have to.
You could buy what you like in quirkies because rarity is less important than aesthetic.
And just buy something you like.
But my DMs are open if you have questions.
You know, I always try to onboard people and make it a good experience.
Maybe throw you something like a quirkling for free if you
enjoy doing that type of stuff so it's a it's an open door policy here um we'll get you in
the group chats and all that but i i think you know quirkkids.com is a tool we made really
intentionally because it should answer all the questions about the quirk kids brand obviously
you can follow us on socials, jump in the discord.
You can get in the main discord chat and vibe with the community without owning
a quirky. So yeah. And again, just open door. We're here.
We're not going anywhere. Follow some quirks, check the vibes on the timeline.
Ask around. I think most people have had great experiences.
So that's the call to action for now. And, you know, check out our, our website too, you know, uh, the corklife.com great street wear
and all that there too. So that's all. Thank you, Cash. No, thank you. Really appreciate you being
here. Um, I gotta, I gotta shout at the art again. The one-on-ones are legit fire. Like these are really, this is great kid-friendly IP. I'm not the art
expert, but it just, these are really well done. The honorary, I truly, I love it. It's really
well done. And yes, it's, it is subjective. I think it matters. And especially if you're looking
to grow the IP and put the, build the content around it, it does matter. And it if you're looking to grow the IP and build the content around it,
it does matter. And it resonates with me. It stands out. It's really, really well done. And how you've incorporated the traits with making it look completely new is, I think it deserves
more credit than the art we'll probably get in the space. But even more beyond that, it's,
I see John wants to come up. We can get you up here quickly. I do got a hard out because
I've got one job today and it's to go pick up the panel. They close. It's a I see Jed wants to come up. We can get you up here quickly. I do got a hard out because I've got one job today and it's to go pick up the pan.
They close, it's a good drive away and they close.
I have to get there before I close or I am in trouble
and I would greatly miss the pan de jamon.
It's my, it's become my new favorite holiday food of choice.
But one other thing before I let Jed get in here,
my quick call to action, if you've not yet done so,
go claim that badge. It's linked up top. You can also just go to op.xyz, type in code CWCHOLIDAY,
all one word, CWCHOLIDAY. It's open until December 31st. You may not want to wait until
December 31st. There's no expectation with this, please. No one's going to get rich off claiming this badge. It's go claim some cool art. Go support Imlo, who quite literally volunteered his time to pull the
art piece together. And yeah, go claim that holiday badge. It's on the OpenPage site with
our friends over there. And more on that. We'll spend some more time talking about OpenPage and
stuff over the course of the next week. We will be here tomorrow.
Likely audio only day.
I may decide to stream, but most likely tomorrow and Friday, probably just going to do the old school spaces.
Definitely on Friday because I got to go.
My daughter's got a follow up appointment and it's a drive away.
So we won't have to leave before end of the video.
So shorter show tomorrow.
We will be live.
I'd love everyone just to tune in and say hello.
Or if your kids are up and you're unwrapping gifts, please be with your family.
It's not that deep.
It's not that important.
If you're not with family tomorrow or the kids are still sleeping or your plans aren't until the day, we'd love everyone to drop in for a brief minute.
We'd like to share some appreciation and may or may not have some goodies tomorrow.
But definitely, if you can take a few seconds, go click, it's free to claim. You do have to connect your X account to open page, but that's it. It's there's no, I don't even think
you have to, I'm pretty sure gas, everything is sponsored. It's truly a completely free claim.
Just code C W C coffee. That said, before I get out of here, Jed, I saw you pop up any quick,
like if we could do lightning around like 60 seconds or less, any, any of here, Jed, I saw you pop up. Any quick, like if we could do lightning round, like 60 seconds or less, any?
Yeah, I'll make it real quick.
I'm just really like proud of the space in general.
I think it is maturing.
You know, I was involved with this activation from day one.
And, you know, I was worried.
You know, I was worried that people were going to, you know,
they're not getting any like technical value that they could sell like an NFT.
You know, it wasn't going to, it was never planned to be a mint. It might have been a drop. you know they're not getting any like technical value that they can sell like an nft you know
um it wasn't gonna it was never planned to be a mint it might have been a drop uh but you know
thank God probably smarter than me um but yeah just seeing how receptive everybody was I think
like a year ago like this shit like this would have got funded right because like oh I didn't
get anything like you know monetary value out of this um so just seeing the reaction from everybody and
how well it's been taken i just it just makes me more bullish on the space i'm all both on you know
the people here you know really maturing and this is the way we got to go and you know trusting my
good operators and good founders um just just a good day for nfts in my opinion yeah i agree again
i'm just going to use the word refreshing again. It's not
all just about number go up. If you're comparing it side by side of the collections, it's on a
short list of ones that haven't bled out and it's done really well relative to other major blue
chip collections. I know we're not here to talk about that, but it's refreshing that that's happening because people are collecting and it's not about
number. I didn't hear one person say anything about number go up or, you know, I wish you
would have airdropped this to me so I could have sold it. Like not one person in the core community
yesterday was looking for a liquidity event out of this. And they were going to go back and listen
to the space. I'll pop you through that link, maybe pin it up top as we close out. If anyone
wants to go listen to the recording from the town hall yesterday, you can get a little more in-depth there and see and hear from the community, the core supporters who were big fans of this.
And yeah, I know you want to, you know, assumingly grow and get, you know, interact and have more people join the community.
But I think having that, your core, your base, then being excited and supportive is the first step.
And I think you absolutely nailed that.
So I hope everyone gets some quality time
with friends, family tonight.
Merry Christmas Eve to all those who celebrate.
We will be back tomorrow, brief show on Christmas for,
yes, and I did misspeak earlier.
I said the wrong word.
The code is CWCHOLIDAY, not CWCCOFFEE.
My apologies.
OP.XYZ slash claim
and just type in code CWCHOLIDAY
and you can claim that directly
or the direct link is also pinned up above.
But thank you very much for that.
Appreciate the shout out to Helpful Soul
and the legend pain behind the
scenes also got word that abstract did bring back badges i missed that so we'll follow up on more
on that we'll maybe talk more about crypto being cool uh if you if you're looking for some holiday
content to consume uh and you've not yet seen fraggle rock that'll be my recommendation for
the day it's not the greatest image i'm not i didn't mean no offense by the no offense intended to the artist it is better ip i didn't say that but in the show probably
doesn't hold up i've literally not watched an episode of fraggle rock for maybe 40 years
definitely well over 30 35 years so it very well could be just straight up bad um so if it's just
bad don't just turn it off but um that was good cap. That's the best cap take of the day
right there. Go watch Fraggle Rock. And if it's not good, just turn it off and give me, give me
a pass. Fraggle Rock's pretty good, but it's been about 25, 30 years for me too, bro. So I'm with
you. He just came back out through, uh, Apple TV and it's actually really, really good. It's
really, really good good this past few
years uh i caught the episodes and they're great i'm even close that they sound like you or am i
completely off on that no you're right because some of them old characters they do got that
raspiness in them and they got the dog and you know what i mean like there's all this
this different uh types of voices in there so yeah you're right good stuff guys well really
really appreciate your time today poppy. Shout out to everyone out there.
Shout out to Red Goat.
Am I saying it right?
I did pin her account up top.
Yeah, Molly, Red Goat Queen.
Yep.
Go give her a follow.
Go give her some support.
Really, really well done on the custom art on these.
And that space to the town hall yesterday is also pinned up top.
So go get your badges.
Go give those accounts a follow.
And we'll be back tomorrow.
I hope everyone has a wonderful time with, with friends and family tonight.
Um, join us if you can tomorrow, if not, no sweat.
I know some of you take pride in being here, not just here every day, but being the first
one in the chat.
If you've got other, if you're with family and you're, please focus on them, be present
and, uh, we'll, we'll be back on, on Friday.
So, uh, but for those who do have some downtime tomorrow morning, we'd love to, and we'll be back on Friday.
But for those who do have some downtime tomorrow morning, we'll hang out for a bit. We definitely won't keep you two hours and 45 minutes.
I promise you that.
Probably closer to an hour tomorrow, and I may have to force myself on that accountability.
But all that being said, thanks so much for being here.
Thanks so much for being here. Thanks so much for the time, Poppy. Thanks for being a leader and doing leader things and giving others a, not that everyone has to look to copy and copy paste exactly what you and Quirkies are doing, but showing them there's alternate ways to building a business in this space. your royalties uh shout out to duane in the chat who who uh shouted out uh unvault and uh what what
Thanks so much for the time, Poppy.
aaron and the team over there are doing with divot i wasn't aware that this was something they're
doing but teams don't even you know there's ways now that they can you can get your royalties not
even having to hire a dev there's they can plug into that system we are going to have aaron on
i don't know if it'll be next week but it's here in the near yeah if it is actually pretty solid
that's correct i forgot about that but yeah they're they're good people too so point being is there crypto may be born for some the builders haven't stopped i i think 26
might be the year of the builder dare i say i'm not trying to jinx this but i i thought for a long
time this is a incredible place to build and we need a catalyst for more on-chain builders and
we need a catalyst for more on-chain builders.
And whether it's Quirk Kids or Rec Drinks
or Pick a Crypto Pudgies or other side,
pick a crypto native brand that has,
and maybe multiple,
like that's the best case here,
multiple have their breakout moments next year.
I don't see that happening
and it not attracting more builders.
I know a lot of you are just looking for retail
that you can dump your assets on their heads.
Are there some things I would sell? Yeah. But I'm, I'm more, much more excited about more
builders coming into the space and this being a place to, to make, to build careers out of. And I,
I, I do think regardless of your background, your experience, your, your resume, I think you'd be
hard pressed to find an industry where it's not about what you've done, but what you're willing to do and your ability
to network. It is an incredible place to build a career, whether you're a creative, whether you're
a marketer, whether you're a dev. There's a lot of incredible people here that are looking for
incredible people to work with. And I do think we might have that
coming up soon. I saw the Unvault account jumped up. I promise we will have you back on. We'll
do a full deep dive here. If you've not followed Unvault, go give them a follow. We'll do a full,
proper, special interview here in the near future. So go give that account a follow.
I do got to get out of here though. Otherwise I'm going to miss this Pandae Hamon and it will ruin
the holidays. So if you've never had Panda him on,
I can't explain it.
It's like,
if you don't understand Bitcoin by now,
I can't explain it to you.
You just,
you just don't get it.
I don't have time.
Same thing with the Panda him on.
I it's a,
it's a must.
I got to go get it.
And,
we'll be back tomorrow though.
So come back tomorrow,
join us at eight.
And,
like I said,
audio only most likely.
And then we'll be back.
Same thing on Friday.
Thanks to all.
So thanks so all so thanks so
much for y'all being here and as steve would say hope you all have a wonderful wonderful day everyone . Thank you.
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