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RAC FM absolutely rugged by Spaces 😩🦝 P/by Alphagrowth.io
Recorded: April 25, 2025 Duration: 3:28:33Space Recording
Short Summary
The crypto community is buzzing with discussions on the integration of real-world assets (RWAs) into blockchain, highlighting trends in partnerships, token launches, and the potential for growth amidst skepticism and hiring demands in the evolving market.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. I got you red eye.
I do not believe this red eye.
I'm foreman.
I am.
I cannot even begin to tell you how angry I am right now I'm so angry so
fucking angry right now like I cannot even begin to tell you yeah that's a that's a bitch
when that happens but at least uh Stebby was uh I guess Sebby had left by then. So we did get to, you know, listen to Debbie uninterrupted.
Me and Gabe just started chatting right as your connection seemed to be going out.
No worries, mate.
At least he got the core content of, like, their new podcast set up and stuff.
Like, we were talking quite a bit before you come in, right?
That's cool.
That's what they're wanting to do.
I was, man, there is, when I got into this space, it before you come in right that's cool that that's what they're wanting to do i was man there's
when i got into this space i actually i don't know if you ever remember seeing or hearing this term do you ever remember uh actually this was right around the time terra spaces was like peak uh
I created a
I created a podcast
with a buddy
named Dougie
DeLuca and
Crypto Kim
you know who Crypto Kim is right
yeah yeah
so me him and Dougie
which Dougie is
he's a guy who now works for
Figment Capital but we did a,
we did a sweater space or podcast that actually did quite well, uh,
called the house of shade. We did that for like a year. Uh,
and then as I was getting out of my previous industry and coming in here,
one of the things I kind of wanted to do was to do like white hat analytical work.
Or the analysis of theft or doing chain analysis stuff.
And I quickly got out of that because luckily I had a talk with someone who's been in this
industry for like a decade or so who has some legal representation and has gone through some
stuff like this. And I remember talking to him about someone who was trying to get me to take on a particular job.
After talking through it, I was like, all right, this isn't worth it.
Just from the risk of me having to be dragged into court to prove findings or something like that.
And that's how I almost became a little ray raspberry uh i almost
became a little rare raspberry oh my goodness
but like that's why when when uh ray was talking the other day about the the om stuff i was like
yeah dude i know exactly what you're
talking about he sent me a bunch of stuff uh to go peruse if i wanted to but that was mad what
he was talking about the other day if that's true about that what they're saying is an rwa
and it's only like because it's got the address in the memo field. I'm like, oh my goodness. Like what a scam.
Come on, Red Eye. This is like one of those. Oh, it is dude. When this just makes me think like,
I mean, it's such a powerful school set to be able to verify information.
And I know like, it's a very vague way of describing this, but like,
very uh vague way of describing this but like uh yeah being able to verify data that otherwise would
be difficult to glean any information out of what makes more sense to me what makes more sense to
me is having rwas is ordinals so do you know like uh do you know like when you've got like your land contracts
and stuff like that right you know what i'm talking about yeah your land ownership rights
to digitalize it but to have it actually like inscribed and somehow like have that like
authentication like verification like you think about proof of stake chains putting rwa assets on like proof of stake
chains and you kind of think to yourself well rwa has raised a lot of questions for me
i'm not spending the big thing and playing off the dp and everyone's rwa but so okay
just out of curiosity i like the idea of the deeds let's say you i took my house the deed to my house and i
wanted to put it on an ordinal there's some information that i want to keep private i don't
want my name or my social security number or let's say other identifiable information yeah but you'd
have to have some form of like sort of passkey security
set up on it so it's almost like your house keys i'm wondering is it like a company that comes in
and does it on your behalf and it's like a fucking i don't know some unique identifier that gets put
in there and then there's an off-chain component where you know it's like okay this matches with
this or does it all have to be on chain and And if that's the case, I'm more nervous about completely on chain
than some off chain component.
But that's like the one thing I've been struggling with is like,
RWAs, there has to be, at least based on my understanding,
there has to be a connection to a real identity
because you're dealing with a custodian of these assets.
And like whether it be Circle, BitGit, Tether, you have to have an account with these.
In my opinion, they're all RWA issuers or except for BitGit.
PaxG would be the people who made PaxG.
That would be another one.
They all have,
they're all centralized,
right?
You all have an account with them and they are the ones that manage that
off chain.
So that's what I think about when I think about real estate.
It's like how,
is it going to be a broker that is,
that manages this shit for you or there's gotta be some other way.
But I digressress so you're talking
the two main the two main stumbling blocks that you would see to like genuine take up of rwas
will be the fact that regardless of whatever you're going to have to have a middleman in there
at some point right or it's just not going to work and there's going to be an element of privacy that you're not going to be able to sort of like hang on to
or cling on to, right?
I think so.
But, I mean, in Web2, people are comfortable with sharing their data
with the person that they're buying information from, right?
So like when I go to Amazon or eBay or whatever, right,
they're going to have my payment information
and they need to know my billing
information um it's a similar thing uh have you heard my little similar thing have you heard my
little synopsis about the difference between web and we'll bring matt in here but the difference
between web one web two and web three so it's all about the data right we all know that that these
companies you know whether it's like
a craft beer online subscription service or something the only thing to care about is getting
your data right it's more data is more valuable than anything in this day and age that's why uh
zuckerberg paid all the money for whatsapp right but web one they took your data web two we gave them our data web three we're taking our data back so if if anything in
web three doesn't involve that like reclaiming of your sovereign right over your own data i'm not
kind of interested in it do you know what i mean by that yeah i just had for whatever reason my
mind just took a horrible turn uh of like thinking about what could happen.
I was like, what happens if Hillary Clinton does business and inscribes something on an ordinal?
Does that mean like eventually she's going to want to try and blow up the Bitcoin chain or like someone's going to,
Someone's going to...
My mind immediately went to, what is it, Building 7,
the tower's falling, or that bombing out in Oklahoma City,
just to cover up data.
You were talking about data is so powerful.
I was like, what happens when data goes on chain
and someone really, really, really wants that information off?
How do you get it off?
I don't know if you can.
Maybe you try and take the chain down. You can't break your email server with a hammer like hillary did right matt hi hello
gentlemen i just thought i'd pop in and see uh see what you were chatting about i was just listening
um yeah you kind of get rid of the data I was just wondering if you would deliberately beat me there right I because that's all the
stuff that you were talking about there about you know the identity aspects of
our double your ways regardless of whether or not it has a middleman or
even if you put it on an ordinal the thing is for me is the on-chain stuff
like I am dead against on chain and I hear so many people talking about on
chain and for the very
exact reason you mentioned there is no way would i be putting any of my personal information on
chain because once it's there the very definition of blockchain as you know is immutable that's it
you're screwed so there'd be no way would i be putting any of my personal information anywhere
i had not a chance but yeah um if anybody was to put any um incriminating information on the
blockchain they're fucked unless they're using zero knowledge proofs but i mean not many people
actually know how to use your knowledge proofs or even know what they are um so you know but getting
back to the rwa stuff in your example um robo well i mean you were great as well you're not talking about
how you would stick dates on there i'm i don't really buy into the whole idea of rwa i think
it's a fad i think it's just another another hype thing don't get us wrong i think there will be some
uptake but no we agree we agree with you we actually agree with you yeah i am i don't trust
i i do you know do you know what since i've joined the guys i'm working with now i'm i'm
getting less and less inclined to want to trust any of these projects if it's not rugs or
Questionable antics or who they're involved with or bad advice and denying it and then having the balls to come forward and see Oh, you know, we are going to do right by the community. It's just absolute
Nonsense to me like and now I speak to that many people on a daily basis, right, for different things, different protocols, individuals,
and you'd be amazed, right, of how many of these people
don't actually know how to do business,
they turn up late to calls,
they don't fulfill contractual obligations in some cases
as I've experienced in the past.
You're constantly chasing them to do stuff
or they'll demand payment up front
And then you never hear from them for months and this is consistent like and I'm and I look and I'm thinking this industry
This web 3 industry is meant to be with the cutting edge of technology where we can make serious changes for sovereign
But you know what my biggest concern about the majority of web 3 is at the minute
The people in it. I just don't trust the majority of kids these
kids that have gone to university right and done four-year degrees i've done masters in computer
science they don't know the first thing about business they couldn't tell you what an ebit is
they couldn't tell you the difference probably between like revenue uh overheads versus like do you know what i'm talking about like the the basic
structures of business it's not just that it's it's it's basic communication conversation how
you structure a message how you would approach somebody some of the outrage that i get and
they're like they've got the title of bd at x, Y, and Z. And I'm just like, really?
Like, is this how you report a potential client? We talked about this with Red Eye the other week, though,
using, like, stance and language and that.
You're right.
People don't know how to talk to people.
Like, I teach this as part of my job.
So what you're saying here is, like, my bread and butter, right?
I have to go and teach these Thais ties these high-level Thai businessmen and I'm talking like purchasing directors of the Asia Pacific region and I'm like
look just because you do it in Thai doesn't mean you can come and do it in
English like you kind of just talk to people like that you kind of approach
this like you've got to learn to be diplomatic do you know what i mean you've got to be learned to be less direct like
like more polite these people just don't get it man no it's it's not just that either the
biggest poignant point for me is what you made when you said about the go to university now
i i've seen you know cases where different people you know they've done a couple
of courses or they've watched a few videos and the and the and they think i i can do that they
do it once marginally okay and suddenly they're a professional you know what i mean the market
themselves is these professionals and i'm like hang on a minute you've done this once barely
okay and suddenly you're like you're pushing out
all of these things when when people are coming out of uni i'm just trying to think about myself
right reflecting on my current skill set and what i had back then um i probably had a very similar
capacity to learn actually i probably had a greater capacity to learn, but I will say I came out
with just technical knowledge. I studied chemistry and physics and minored environmental science.
It's not at all what I do now. After getting out of college, I went to become a head brewer
and a director of operations for one of the bigger microbreweries in my state.
And I would attribute probably 80 to 85% of my managerial skillset and the knowledge I gained
was because of the person who taught me how to run a business. I could do the chemistry stuff. I could do the, the brewing
that part, but it was easy. That was so easy to me. It was the, you know, being able to coordinate,
you know, uh, multiple department business, being able to understand how your actions impact
shareholders or, you know, your customers all the way down the line, being able to, uh, think about
timelines and plan things out
ahead of time like none of what i did in college would have really prepared me for that other than
like being able to write papers and shit but it's like dealing with actual people understanding that
you know people are dealing with you they're spending money and so like there should be
certain uh you know what the three most important skills are in business three most important
skills outright everything else you can learn these are innate skills that you're either good
at or you're not right people can either do these things or they can't right not everybody can a lot
of people have the kind of you know like introspective like look at you know life or whatever right uh i teach leadership courses
right leadership skills to like companies like chevron where they'll do their young leaders
program and like this right so this is i've prepared lessons out of like how uh how to make
friends and influence people right by carnegie and stuff right i've been doing this for years now so
by carnegie and stuff right i've been doing this for now so three skill oh great book uh carnegie
was a genius three skills all right that so for years when they've like uh forbes and yahoo finance
and stuff right would survey these like ceos and stuff and say like you know what are like the top
three qualities like you look for in like you know like in promoting people and getting them to board level, whatever.
It's always the same.
You need to be able to present.
You need to be able to negotiate.
You need to be able to lead a team.
Everything else after those three, because they are quite sort of natural.
You're either a natural negotiator or you're not.
I mean, you can work at it.
You can learn.
But you've either got the skill or you haven't. Like Trump is a natural negotiator or you're not i mean you can work at it you can learn but you've either got the
skill or you haven't like trump is a natural negotiator right leading a team not everybody
can lead a team to lead a team what are you doing you're trying to get the best out of your people
right you're trying to make sure whether you manage any conflict within your team etc
you're trying to inspire people you know leading the team is what gets people in, you know, on time every day and working hard. Right.
And the presenting side of it, if you think about it, you do a pitch deck or whatever.
Right. You present your project. You're going to have to negotiate afterwards on the terms and conditions or the terms of service, whatever the tour terms of reference.
Right. Like presenting, you're going to be selling, negotiating, you're going to be selling negotiating you're going to be trying to
get the best deal you're not you're gonna have to lead a team of people to be able to manage it but
they're the three requisite skills that we tell all of our trainees hey look you know what makes
the idea what skills innate skills right have great like leaders got managers they're the three
things lead a team present negotiate now not everybody
can do that all the other stuff you can learn you can learn finance basics and you can learn
everything else but those three things you have to have an element of like it coming from your
nature within like you need to be a natural leader you need to be able to stand up and present you
know like we call a course of now in Thailand.
Getting up in front of a group of people and getting on a microphone and being able to deliver.
Sitting in a negotiation, knowing how a negotiation works, knowing your OP, knowing your fallback position, etc., etc., right?
Like knowing exactly what kind of language to use
how to hedge you know the price is too high or the price seems rather high like there's just people
who know or don't know anyway uh let's see hello everybody we've got some new people in first up
up good morning b bands i want to welcome gabe because i lost him earlier
good morning b bands i want to welcome gabe because i lost them earlier
hey robo hello mate i'm sorry i'm sorry about the space earlier gabe just twitter just
rugged us from nowhere mate i was pissed right off yeah yeah no it's okay you probably lady
boy date it's fine it's fine it's okay fine. It's okay. Ha ha ha! You cheeky bastard! Here we go.
Three bands.
He's picking on the ladyboys. Tell him
to keep off the sausage fingers.
Well, when the space was disconnecting,
we were like, okay, Robo is either
getting rugged or he found himself a ladyboy.
He needs to handle real quick.
Ooh, have you heard about...
Are you getting mass heard about his blind
male masseuse
have you heard about a cute cancer
I couldn't have you heard about
Clayton Biggs been giving you a massage
have you heard about
the rumors about
Michelle Obama or not
which one are they new rumors
yeah the rumors
you shared a lot of rumours
No, no, these are fresh
Fresh off the press, listen to this
Apparently some
Disgruntled
Executive producer
Has apparently got some
Damning video and he's very very pissed off
so he's gone in public with it and allegedly he reckons uh he can categorically prove that
michelle obama is a man so like i don't know what's going to happen like i'm all ears me
like i'm here for it i'm here for it but aren't there already lots of videos out there that quite clearly
show that that's the case?
When she's dancing
and she's got the cock dancing.
I've seen different photos
and videos. Mind, he, she's
hung like a baby's arm, you know what I mean?
Unless it's prosthetic.
I've heard she broke
Justin Bieber's soul.
I've heard she broke Justin Bieber's soul.
Robo, do you know which one is the best rumor ever spread around the world?
Well, it was internet time, but there wasn't social media yet.
But everyone believed it.
And the rumor, I don't know if you remember that,
the rumor was that Merrilee Manson has removed his lower rip in order so he can blow himself off.
I remember that one.
That's true. That is absolutely true.
No, it is not, Robo.
Everything that you think isn't true, Robo's here to tell you. No, it is.
Self-felatioio it's a true story
i'll tell you what surprised if you're like yeah i got a video of me and maryland manson back in
the late 80s hanging out in australia and he showed me he could do it before before the internet
really like kicked off like what before the internet kicked off i'd say one of the biggest
rumors was that the Queen of England
Killed Princess Diana
I would have to say that's probably one of the biggest ones
My father told me
The day after Diana died
So the story about how Diana died
And where I was and what I was doing
It's mad right
I was out raving
On the Saturday night
And it was like the Saturday night that happened right
or well the Saturday night our time so I was out raving and I was off me fucking tits and me
grandma had invited me mum and me dad and me younger brother over for Sunday lunch right my
grandma's like I'll cook dinner come over right and I was living with my grandma at the time
so I was absolutely fucking hanging I came back uh i forgot where i've been
i'll tell you where i've been uh i've been in passion i think martin you know passion
you know passion i think that's where we were that night right i was absolutely off my face right i
was i was in passion that's right so anyway i went home six o'clock and i was high and i was absolutely off my face right i was i was in passion that's right so anyway i went home six
o'clock and i was high and i was like oh i'm gonna have a line and then go to bed right and i stuck
the telly on or something and then there was something about princess diana dying and i was
like i'm tripping me like like this is like it's like i'm i didn't think it was real so i went to
bed and then the next thing on my grandma's like get up your dinners ready or something and me grandma would always have the dinner bang on 12 30 on the table so i gets up and i'm
rough as and everybody's just like sad as and i look on the telly and i see there's
all these people laying flowers and all that they're like outside of buckingham palace i'm
like what's going on and they're like oh yeah yeah i haven't heard have you princess diana
and i was like what couldn't believe it there was a real me mum was crying it's somber moment in the house
and then me and my dad right we're having a cheeky beer outside after lunch right i was
having a cigarette me dad would come out with his beer and i was like dad this is mad isn't it what
do you think about this and he said me dad just literally this is like the day kind of she died
in the middle of the night so this is like the day she died my dad was like son do you think for one moment they were going to allow the mother
of the future king of england to marry an egyptian market trader are you off your face i was
like well actually i was last night like there's really matt that's what my dad said to me do you think the royal family's gone and they're talking her the king
of the the mother of the future king of england get married through a egyptian market trader no
chance and then i don't know what it is i've been like that was a red pill moment for me that was
like 1997 matt right that was before like
the internet really went mainstream robo i can't help but picture i'm sure you've heard this meme
before but i'm gonna play something and tell me if you've heard i cannot help but think this is
exactly what you were just describing about here and that the princess died hold on let me make sure this is turned on
buckingham palace has announced the death of her royal highness the queen of
great breath
oh wow that was more what he was doing in his head off the night before.
Your dad's telling you this story.
Your ears are still ringing from passion.
Your dad's telling you this and you're like,
what the fuck's still off your face?
Matt, you would love me old man. You think I'm mad? I, Matt, you would love me old man.
You think I'm mad.
I learnt most of me shit off me old man.
Me old man is so well read, it's beyond belief.
Like, he's read everything you can think of in the world, bro.
Like, none of the Raiders digesting that.
He's just, like, read everything about, like, ancient history.
The cunt's mad, but he's got a mad take on life.
Here's the one for you, Matt.
Have you heard about me telling the jimmy savile story or not no um i just had some more thoughts on the
diana thing but go on come on no no well i'll just mention the jimmy savile in a minute but come on
bring in the diana crack i'm interested to hear about this from everyone uh uh do you know tommy
lawson from milton castle of course i steven lawson and tommy
lawson well yeah well you know i slapped tommy when i was a kid and his brother absolutely
annihilated me his brother's like four years or five years older than should i kick me to
death in the street steven lawson kick the out of me when i was a kid we're not you know we lived on jennifer avenue hi that's alone hi i remember you saying
but what i was gonna say was um so i had a few chats with him when i was i was only like i was
i think i was 15 and that was when i first uh not when i heard it but when i first read about um
it but when i first read about um that that diana thing um but i got i got tucked into a book me it
was one of david ike's books it was like that was one of the things that was the the book that red
pilled me i mean some of his stuff's a bit bonkers like you know um but he he went quite extensively
into um what he described as the assassination of diana and his book the biggest secret
what he described as the assassination of Diana and his book the biggest secret
but he goes right into the symbology of stuff and in one of the things he
pointed out was that she hit the 13th pillar and the 13th pillar at that time
was directly below an old temple which was the the goddess diana or something vague something vague and he was talking about it
and he was talking about about about how when i because i was just a nipper about how this was
like some kind of ritualistic uh sacrifice and purely because for part of the reason it didn't
want dodi alfayyad um to be the father to diana to you know to make the father
of a child with diana they didn't want it to go that because it would have broken um broken the
blood covenant because you know they've got all these different 13 blood lines and all that stuff
and when i read that out i was reading this and i was like wow and i took it right in me and it got
us you know it got us got us got us absolutely hooped so
from being completely red-pilled on that like when he i mean i can't remember the details now
matt guess how many families run thailand no no idea 13.
there's 13 well i reckon there's uh 13 primary bloodlines um but anyway yeah that i was just thinking that there when you mentioned that i was like jesus christ i remember reading about that
in uh in that book but anyway mate we'll come back to symbolism of 33 in a minute that's going
to blow your mind if you know about 33 as handle done. Did you somewhat of a pivot as
something I was reading about. Did you hear about
India shutting off the
flow of water to
Pakistan? Aye, because of the
terrorist attack the other day.
Yeah, I assume it was in
relation to that attack.
Yeah. But
Islamabad has previously stated like this is
effectively a
declaration of war
by shutting up.
You know they've got nukes, right?
Both of them.
I've got friends who live in Pakistan
and they've
told me all about the
rivalry with India and
I guess what
life is like living there.
Yeah, it is wild um
before we pivot too much we'll be we'll pivot to this i'm gonna just get so matt i was talking
about like you know going to raves and that back in the day i mean i spent that's where i spent my
life right blue monkey like you know that's all i ever did right down tall trees right down the sugar shark etc uh bro i was at a rave right in uh 97
you know newcastle race course you know gosforth the race course are you they used to have the
rave it was a furry causton's first ever uk appearance right i was in the kid box dancing
behind him when he was djing i was on a table dancing behind him it was mental but anyway
i was sitting outside as you do outside the tent you know like four o'clock in the morning i've got no top on i've got a high vis on and me whistles and everything right and i'm with the lights oh
dude you want to see me with me glasses with the lights on and that man me spiky hair anyway listen
to this so i'm sitting next to this kid right and he's up from down south
and uh you know when you meet people in a rave and you're like oh what's your name where you're
from what you're on you know what i mean and i was just like you're talking a rave to any
right so me and him sitting outside sharing a joint and that i knew i'm for a fag and he's
like smoking a joint that says that smells lovely says he'll have a hit you know and then we're just
talking right and he's like yeah
you know jimmy savile and i was like are you mean like now then now then i was about that then and
he's like he's like you know it's a fucking raven nonce and i was like what this like 96 97 right
and i was like what and this kid said to me he said he man he used to be the who used to get
all the young boys man for reggie crane that money so this kid told me this is a story he told me his
like best mate his older brother would have been a little rent boy right down
at King's Cross right and he'd been nabbed and kidnapped and he was one of the lucky ones who
got away obviously with his life kind of thing because
you know they killed a lot of them they snuffed a lot of them but uh he later killed himself you
know because of the abuse he couldn't handle it right and he told his younger brother about like
he broke down and told him just a couple of days before he killed himself so this kid killed
himself because of the abuse he'd suffered uh back in the day and then like he told his brother his
younger brother who then like told this kid so i'm thinking i'm thinking it's 96 97 i'm thinking
this kid's off his head i'm like what's he talking about he's talking right then dude around about
2006 like all these rumors started coming on the web you know when the web was like pretty free
still back then when like youtube was just say starting out and paypal had just got a name for itself you know the early days
of like when the web started picking up and that all these rumors started coming online about jimmy
savilland i'm thinking oh he will go you know that i just kept thinking about the kid he told
me like nearly 10 years ago and then what happened turned out to be true like and i just thought this random kid in a rave
was talking and he turned out to be absolutely on the money with everything he said
he talked about the lot dude uh obviously before he got locked up uh savile was doing all the work
for uh ronnie ronnie career right because he used to like the young boys yeah you know i don't know too much
about them i i know i only know from the movie legend um like i say i don't know too much of the
history of the careers but when you're telling us it's now this is the first time i've heard this
this one to be honest oh dude there was a whole oh jim jimmy savile used to ride around and he's
calling london man and take them back to the flat above the place man so there was loads of them involved there was uh cyril smith you're talking uh like back in the day
you're talking like leon britain and them like this went so this went through dude this
went through like the the late 50s into the 60s into the 70s and then obviously like it
escalated to the elm you know the elm guest house you know about the elm guest house right
well that was like the culmination where like the move from the flat there was like a flat above like a tobacconist uh where they used to like literally go and get like young boys like these
people i mean jimmy savile when you learn about what he did in jersey and he's bored and how they
would throw the kids off the boat when they'd finish with them and that i mean depravity beyond
belief but like you know when someone's telling you something and you're like oh like this is
it's mad isn't it how how conspiracy theories like uh john kennedy said in the senate like a couple
of months ago he's like we need some more conspiracies because like conspiracy theorists
are 39 and all right now like everything like it's literally everything
that's a conspiracy right now just ends up being true like six months later right there
you're like what the fuck can you define a conspiracy because uh so far as i can understand
flat earth is uh flat earthers are just uh dumb it's not a yeah they're dumb yeah they're
dumb as fuck flat earthers like have've looked down you've got a conspiracy
theory though what was that matt i was gonna say one of one of the ones that the bank the big ones
for me i took a picture took a picture at the front of my house this morning right and the sky
is literally a white out and i've been watching it literally for decades and i've been telling
a couple of individuals about it i'm like do you think that's normal do you think that's normal is literally a white out and i've been watching it literally for decades and i've been telling a
couple of individuals about i'm like do you think that's normal do you think that's normal
and then they've just come out saying oh they're gonna uh they're gonna start dimming the sun
uh at the same time they're gonna start uh they've just cancelled the cancellation of mass solar
farms to be grown uh to be deployed on arable land in the uk which is a bit bit double-think. I just think, well, that's just another primary example
of being stupid.
But the fact that they're coming out now as if it's normal,
they say, oh, yeah, we're going to spray the sky
to dim the sun, and part of it contains barium,
strontium, aluminium oxide, and I'm like, hang on a minute.
They've been doing this for decades,
and now they've just quietly put it out
there as if it's like some kind of normal new thing like one of those kinds red eye yeah
so you know you know about trump and his chemtrail task force or not you know just made it they've
just made their first arrests but they're keeping it like trying to keep it like low key
no so do you know trump enabled all right trump enabled uh
chem uh chemtrail task force apparently they've just made that for that this is the rumors that
are kicking around on the you know on the underground i'll say where i hang around
uh they've just made their first couple of arrests and the news will be coming out uh soon enough
yeah well i don't know i i've heard a lot about that q and stuff and regardless of
what people think about it you know they made loads of wild claims in the past about people
being already dead and they're in it or they're in guantanamo beer and all of that now it's just like
you do know you do know that uh q anon was a dn dnc psyop right no i don't know it's like i see it so what they
do they used okay so this is like common knowledge and again in the underground right it's common
knowledge that q is not real uh even though they'd like you to think it is right still
there's people who don't want to give up on the dream that q is real q was nothing other than a
dnc psyop and it followed the playbook almost identical
of what the uh what the communists did to the remaining hardcore bolsheviks
in the winter of 1919. so there's a whole connection made of a whole thing right where
the bolsheviks were all pending on all sides and they kept on getting like these airdrop like
leaflets and all telling them that like helped on the way and they kept on getting like these airdrop like leaflets and all
not telling them that like helped on the way and everything while they just got totally encircled
and then basically the communists finished off the last of the remaining hardcore bolsheviks
because the bolsheviks started the revolution and the communists took it over right
yeah you know what i'm talking about it's it's really interesting mate there are so many
similarities between the exact campaign
that the communists did against the bolsheviks to finish them off
uh like literally compared to q anon it's almost an identical situation bro
i never believed i i never bought into that anyway mate to be honest like i just just like
yeah i read a lot of stuff and i entertain a lot of ideas and i do read some of these absurd
ideas but a lot of them i'm just like yeah i can i can entertain a thought without immediately
believing it you know what i mean um but i i read into it but i was just like nah yeah but why okay
so why why did the republican base not really massively rise up in 2020 like they've just turned like the maga
movement turned out in 2024 why did they not do it it's because a lot of them thought like the
maga a lot of them thought q was real that was the difference basically what it does is it it
isn't it disincentivizes people from fighting back because i think they've got some savior riding in
on a white horse
when really what they're doing is they're continuing to implement the same totalitarian
regimes and blueprints for depopulation regardless of which political party gets in because it's
ultimately there's still the same arse cheek on the same arsehole right you know so i i mean i
knew early on like i don't vote because i just think it's pointless because
they're all in this the same funny and shared clubs and you know they're all getting the same
backhanders and working with the same lobbyists and the matter you mean the uni party right
well not specifically i was thinking a little higher than that but i didn't really want to get
into it to be honest it was just more so it was part of the basis of why i immediately knew
or believed rather that the q anon was just a a way to get people uh to not rise up because it
gave it was a a means of hope that the deep state was being systematically um dismantled by you know
various groups of insiders in the military military industrial complex plex
and banking and you know operated as like a fifth column if you would and i was just like
one of the most advanced cyber security and intelligence agencies in the world that share
information cross borders and you think that they don't know about people who would be doing x y and
z like that while you're posting on communication platforms which are monitored by you know the
national security agency is like off bro it's exactly the same exactly honestly it's the same
playbook as the what they did to the the bolsheviks you can you can actually go and google it and
historically historically you'll find it well exactly what you're talking about about the
fifth column and the deep state being dismantled and blah blah blah it's what the commies did to the bolsheviks
because they wanted rid of them this is how they you know the whole power struggle uh emerged right
with uh trotsky and everything right and the other fella uh what was he called again uh tolstoy right
uh what was he called again uh tolstoy right fascinating i'll tell you what matt
you know i've said this before but i'm not willing now in my life now have any conversation with
anybody ever about the holocaust right if they're not willing to talk about how the at the beginning, the Bolsheviks, right, the Bolshevik revolution,
that 86% of officers within that regime that basically, like,
obviously killed the Tsar, killed the royal family,
you know, there were 86% Jews, right, as Anakhi Jews,
the officers and everything, right, was 86% Jews,
and they killed a minimum, right right we know a minimum of 20 million
christians right you can off with your six million until you're willing to talk about the 20 million
that were killed in world war one i'm not willing to go there at all about this like i've had enough
of it and anyone that thinks that like six million people were went in gas chambers you didn't know mathematics
you didn't know mathematics the estimates is probably it's not just that the chimney's not even connected to the main building in the compound apparently i'd read by a few different
and it was actually built after you know i mean even the brick even the bricks the stone works
different and stuff and there isn't actually a connection to the building that it's built beside.
That's what I'd read by now.
Like Ernst Zendel, I mean, there's a lot of people calling him out for all kinds of stuff,
but he's a big, I mean, the easiest label is to use Holocaust Denier.
But even when you look back, like the british red cross they had put in a
submission for a major reduction to the six million number and was actually around about 1.6 million
actually but in comparison to the numbers of other nationalities the likes of the polish and whatnot
who also suffered mass losses it wasn't even recognized so this is another idea that i read
into but generally don't don't discuss to people.
But again, it's not something I know too much about.
I just, all I know is, is that we've had that much lies and bullshit to keep people down and confused and in a state of fear.
And especially in this age, you can't, you don't know what you can, what you can trust because most of the stuffed pre-approved published information to be put there for the consumption of individuals to
shape their opinions anyway so none of us are actually free from misinformation and disinformation
matthew here's the one for you right so do you know the story about the six million the fit the
figure i'm talking about the number six million right do you know the story about it i'm not sure i know i'm guessing you're going to tell us though it
it guess where guess when the number of six million jews in like dire straits dire consequences you
know possible like genocide of six million guess when that number was first touted around in mainstream media?
And I'm talking like American publications like the New York Post, Washington Times, all of it.
All newspapers across Europe, England, America, etc.
All the free world where they had press.
Guess when the fucking number of 6 million first started getting bandied around?
I honestly have no idea, mate.
1913. i've seen a video of a dude
where he got all of these the right he got all of the evidence together and he's like i just want
to like put this on like a video camera for you to make his own mind up right you can see it 1913 1915 1916 1917 1980 it stopped around about 1921
so the six million figure overnight disappeared after being from 1913 and 1921 being a regularly
talked about seeing about six million jews in danger blah blah blah possible genocide up to six million of jews in europe it was getting talked about bro
how fucking long before it actually allegedly happened so i know what you're saying about the
1.4 etc i've heard anywhere from 400 000 to 600 000 is a realistic target now what a lot of people
don't realize here is there is a claim that these people were
burnt, were gassed in gas chambers and then their bodies were burnt after, right?
They did the math on what it would take to shovel the ash of 6 million people.
They did the actual proper math of like how many people could show like so like how much ash
in like a certain period of time there's nothing nothing logically that points towards the fact
that hitler exterminated six million jews in the so-called final solution the holocaust did he kill a lot of jews yes i'm
not denying that i'm not i'm a hitler denier but i mean things like the book burning the book burning
happened outside of the institute of sexual sciences where they were doing all the jews
were doing all the mad tranny experiments right they weren't burning the books they were burning all of the books of the shady
research on trannies because at the time dortmund berlin hamburg there were cesspits of trans
behavior and like oh disgusting stuff if you just gone google the institute of sexual sciences
in berlin years i'll see what I mean.
Frightening stuff, right?
The experiments and shit that they were doing and the gender reaffirming care and all that.
But back then it was like proper fucked up.
Trannies were rampant everywhere.
And it was the Jews.
Like, I'm not saying, look, I hate Muslims, Jews and Catholics all in equal order.
I'm not going to come in and be like, anti-jewish or this or this i didn't like any of them in any or they've
all got problem major problems in their religions right you could probably even see like you know
sikhs and hindus have but they just like hate each other so you know i'm talking about mainstream
religions right across the world you know the jewish
religion the catholic religion the abrahamic religions basically yeah and the islamic in
the islamic faith you'll find them all over the world yes of course it is i but you'll find them
in every corner of the world so they're the three real mainstream right you know hindu isn't a
religion you find all over the world sikhism isn't a
religion you're going to find all over the world so even though they've got problems i'm not going
to equate them the same so it's not like i'm coming in here and i'm like hitting on the hitting
on jews or you know i i hold them all in such a like disregard right they've all done evil things whether it's the the inquisition in europe and the catholic
killed 1.1 1.2 million women uh whether it's obviously what the muslims have done in the
past and are still doing to this day uh we all know what the jews have done but
b bands will tell you i'm a fairly logical person i consider myself well read I like to make up my own mind by
you know gone and find in four or five six different sources finding people
that are on one side of the argument what who's on the other side argument
and reading between the lines and kind of kind of figure you can read between
the lines and kind of figure out like the truth out of like several sources you can kind of find like common threads coming
together i am sick of this we we're gonna have to have a conversation at some point a global
conversation where we admit that we have been fed a pack of lies about world war ii
we also want to start talking about how hitler was encouraged
by the royal families of europe so a lot of people don't know this
after the russian revolution when the czars were basically taken down in the basement and shot
right by the bolsheviks yeah they were executed in the basement they were stabbed with bainits
because they want to save bullets right very brutal execution of the czar uh andy's extended family after they got
them out to hide and when they found them yeah i think there was only uh anastasia survived
allegedly the royal families right uh the royal families of holland of the uk denmark etc etc
right back then in the early 1900s right start the 20th
century there was still quite a number of royal families in Europe they were terrified absolutely
terrified of the uprising Hitler allegedly was their puppet to basically turn europe into one gigantic massive concentration camp now
we do know that the queen at one point endorsed hitler we do know that uh you know british
dignitaries uh met with hitler and pretty much we know at one point the royal family of england
or britain or the uk sponsored hitler right now did they turn against him at one point yeah maybe
why because what he got on the method and he thought he was just going to be his own man
but every single thing all that early evidence points to the fact that hitler was a puppet
that was brought in to be this authoritarian type to make sure that what happened to the russian royal family
didn't happen anywhere else in europe what happened the russian royal family put their
fucking shits right up the rest of the european royals now you can read into that what you want
all i'm saying is you know i've reached certain conclusions in my life. There's a lot of evidential stuff there that points towards it.
It would kind of make sense that Hitler was a puppet of the ruling elite
until he thought he was bigger than the ruling elite.
Do you know what I mean?
And that's when he had to go.
Makes me wonder if Thanos was right all along.
if thanos was right all along
here we should get off history shouldn't we and start talking about the market
just before we did um i was out walking yesterday and b bands this is for you
actually i don't know why but you randomly popped in my head
i've just popped it in the nest and i don't want you to take this the wrong
way because that's not what it is but this little baby's interviewing this dog right
um it's it's not nothing major but i just for some reason i just found it absolutely hilarious
and it was robbo the baby's you right and you're having this conversation with bay
barnes about some deep topic that are that and bay barn bands has just sat there having this conversation with your
just having this conversation with you and you have these outbursts like you do right
and b bands are just sat there just like yeah yeah yeah yeah b bands are there
me there she might be a bit busy mate she might be a bit busy
me there she might be a bit busy mate she might be a bit busy
it just popped in my head i was like it's like a torn down version of rack fm but i i saved
that especially for me next uh talk she she she keeps me she must be a bit busy this morning i
think she is but she keeps me in check incredibly well like red eye didn't she yeah the other night with that interview with
mushy she was absolutely schooling me right i got in so much trouble she was probably telling me off
oh it's hilarious i can always tell when vaybans is going to tell me off because she starts calling
me barry she'll not tell robo off but she'll'll tell Barry off though. Who's Barry?
That's me alter ego, Barry the band manager.
I'm Finn's manager part-time.
Oh, of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Yeah, that's in.
Yeah.
Barry the band manager.
Get on there.
So anyway, getting to the market stuff, what's the news?
I'm curious to know your take on shit.
What's happening? What's the hot potato at the minute like i know you read i was talking
about uh you mentioned dom earlier but like what's the juice oh the arm thing was hilarious wasn't it
red eye when uh rhea came in the other day and he started to e when he told about when he said about
the memo the address being in the memo for the rwa and the minted it through the osmosis
uh token factory module i i don't know about you red eye were you thinking like were you thinking
to yourself this can't be real like this is this can't be real please tell me that these players
haven't done this right well part of me thinks that but then there's another part of me that
thinks like why is it taking this long for someone to notice?
And maybe Ray isn't the first person to notice, but like, I hear so many people talk so much shit.
And this will go back to like, I mentioned earlier what talking and rumor starting and speculation when things
go bad for projects.
And like my first thought is like go to where the data is.
Where is the data?
It's on chain.
And if you don't know how to read, you know, you don't know how to parse that or do something with that data,
then in my opinion, you should probably shut up until you have some facts.
I mean, you can interpret other types of data,
like the way that the actions on chain manifest in price charts and other things.
and other things but like uh if you want conclusive stuff go to the go to the source
But if you want conclusive stuff, go to the source.
and i'm just surprised that people had i guess hadn't been really digging into this uh prior
well it makes you wonder why right makes you wonder why you took like mantra i take a big
for people then to say oh well let's have a look on chain so i mean
not just that red eye but obviously uh the uh he found out that the genesis file that's on github
doesn't match the uh tge genesis on uh on chain right can you remember when you started about that yeah yep sorry i'm packing myself up have
you heard that man yeah oh you're asking that no no no no does he know i haven't no no i'm that
this is why i come in here because there's always a lot of juice and news in here so now go on carry
on there's always a lot of juice on raggaffirm uh but basically he rear he he went into the github uh he pulled up the genesis file and he did a deep
dive on it compared to exactly like what happened on chain during the genesis and the two of them
just don't match whatsoever there's proper shady stuff to do with tokens to do with veston uh it's
i mean he's putting it he's having to put it all in a document before he
he kind of goes like mainstream public but i mean from what rhea told us i'm sure red i'll agree
if if what rhea said is true all of it is extremely damning and it would indicate that JP knows about all this and essentially JP's a scam artist right
I don't know if there's anything anywhere so is there any threads anywhere are something you can
jump in the nest have you got something bootmarked no they've only just done it the other day he's
put it on so right when the document gets released he's doing an exclusive on rockfm so we've already
arranged that with race or just so everybody known well i mean again when it does i will meet i so
you heard about the rwa the first one we talked about right so so my said robo would be that i wouldn't as much as you would want to implicate
jp in whatever it is i don't know i don't even know what he is in relation to mantra maybe
maybe he's the ceo but like it i would be more specific and say whoever it is that's created the Genesis file,
or whoever performed the TGE.
Yeah, but Ray said there's no way that he could not have known about it in advance.
Well, we also are quite shocked at the level of stupidity in this space sometimes,
so I'll just leave an open mind.
I don't know, it makes it easier for you to,
when you're going to him,
you can frame it so that he,
you know, they effectively have to
kind of tell on themselves
instead of like trying to back him into a corner.
He's like, you did this.
He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I can speak truthfully and potentially say,
I did not do this.
I may have had knowledge of it.
Or maybe he can even save
somewhat truthfully i actually didn't know about this uh but if you've got hundreds of millions or
even billions in market cap you know what's going on in your business like we're not talking about
main coin here you know i mean you should you'd expect I mean, talking about stupidity,
look who's just arrived.
Hello, Tank.
Good morning, son.
And I said that's because I know you don't like stupidity.
I was like, how do I take that?
I know you've got a good bullshit.
He needs to be this dumb.
Look here.
You've got a good bullshit.
That's what I meant.
Tank hates stupidity, right? That's what I meant. He tank hates you right? That's what I meant
What's up guys? What's up? No, that'd be interesting man, uh, but I agree with red-eye. I I would take um
I will take a more open
approach to opening that can of worms
Because he could like anything. You know, it's a it's a plan words, which you're very good at
Are you very familiar in your pro because that's what you teach you're a teacher right but like
i would use that play on words because he could very much just say you know yeah i didn't i didn't
create that i didn't you know whatever but yeah i get what red eye is saying i would i would go
that approach as well but you do know though you do know that he's already dropped himself in this by saying that they've actually uh done one rwa that's a building in dubai right so tank do
you know how they did the rwa they did uh they did they did like one token you know token factory on
osmosis the module they minted one token that they split 20 five ways between like five different
people right as a share of the token and that token is supposed to be representing the rwa
and the basically the transaction that they've put through the only actual like record of this
being an rwa is the address address of the building in dubai being in the memo field
of the transaction that's it like dude you can't say you've got an rwa right and it's an address
in a memo field tank come on please but they're saying they've tokenized it dude come on think
about it memo in the address field are you kidding me is he for real if they've
done this he's right in the shit him he looks like a fucking idiot if this is really true and
rea's gonna present the evidence this i don't know i mean it's not incompetence is it's malfeasance
well i mean uh i'm not gonna say this is what is happening but uh i mean the fake it
till you make it uh mantra is a very real thing not only in crypto but in other businesses as well
it's just you know getting caught before you make it or get getting caught while you're faking it before you make it always sucks.
That's what I say to every girl I take to bed.
Fake it till you make it.
Sorry, bro.
What are you saying?
I was saying it's just that part, you know, whether it's incompetence or whatever people, you know, talking up something way more than it should be in order to like, let's say, buy time until it legitimizes itself.
That doesn't shock me.
It's just you know when people get caught doing it
It's just, you know, when people get caught doing it.
Well aren't you a believer? Aren't you a believer in don't put down a malice what you can
Attribute to incompetence isn't that we were having a conversation the other week and you're a big believer proponent in it, right?
Yep, I agree
We'll see I mean he doesn't want to have nothing to do Iraq FM
I've hit JP like three times and i
said to him look you know people are going to come out with in the next few days maybe you
want to come on right fm but he's not having any of it so yeah fair play he wants softballers like
joe ray was actually quite right the other day uh re made a statement tank you know about the
joe interview and he said it robo you know it was good obviously
whatever but joe just lacks the requisite skills to actually be able to like say like
be on chain and actually do this like work like joe is not a chain sleuth you know what i mean
tank right it makes sense actually when i thought about i was like well raise on the money there
yeah yeah i think it's um i don't know man like that
old saying when you're a hammer which you know online chain sleuths are they're they're just
basically hammers looking for nails everywhere right and so it's like i don't know man it's it's
when you're when you're trying to conduct an open dialogue conversation with somebody which
i think that's more what joe was trying to do right
like recreate content for people to consume and then you know they do what they what they will
it's all about their presentation like ray looks at things just like rama looks at things as a
fucking nail and so like to say that i don't know like i don't know it's one way or the other i don't
know so allegedly according to rick him and rama both the other day or the other, I don't know So allegedly, according to Ray Him and Rama, both
The other day, or the other week, whatever it was
Last week, they both spent
See, I didn't even know, I didn't even know
And I
And Rama, that's what they do
That's all they do
Can't get broken up
Can't get broken up there It's gonna be part of this conversation I said it earlier it's like when you're a hammer everything's a nail does that
Does that justify anything like that?
Hammers can do much more even nails can do much more than
What some people want to paint the picture for I don't know man. i just think it's i'd be open-minded about it all
oh you should be able to you know try and approach the topic with you know from logic
like logically i don't want to use the word attack but you know try and logically dissect the
and analyze the situation but there is also you know it's nice to have the data to, uh,
to compliment it.
Like you should be able to have the,
both your data and your logic match. Uh, and so,
and probably there's other pieces that also need to match as well. So yeah,
I get that where it's like a hammer is not the only tool that you'll need or
want to get a job done.
But when it does come, you know, to Ray's point,
like when you're looking for conclusive on-chain evidence to basically say,
you're saying this, well, the actual action that happened on-chain didn't match that.
And then once that information is out there,
then I think anyone can have the conversation.
It's just like you need the actual data to be able to perform like a really well end up.
Yeah, and I agree with that.
I agree with that.
I was just kind of going back to what Ray was saying about Joe.
And to be fair, Joe's not a hammer.
That's all I'm saying.e's not trying to be a hammer
i couldn't agree more i couldn't agree more what i was saying is though like ray had a point where
he's like okay that might have been like good interview or whatever or you know like relevant
part but it's not like the meat on the bone you know what i mean like if it's actually gonna go down
there needs to be some uh clinical chain analysis to actually because there's now a lot of stuff
turn like being taught about tank about vesting and lock tokens and allocations like there's now
a lot of like that's being taught around so i i kind of get it i get it i should i should hold on
let me let me just be i'll just be blunt about it because i was trying to walk the line like when
you're a content creator like you got to remember what joe's trying to do joe's trying to get views
people to watch his channel i don't i very very much doubt that joe gives two flying fucks if he
was a scammer right or wrong or whatever it is like he's trying to get him because it's controversial at the time and people to watch his channel ray is trying to prove one
specific point that there was malice involved right like so it's two different things so i just
want to say like i agree with both of them but ray comparing one to the other like you got to
remember what the goal is or the objective is for each individual's purpose like a hammer is there
to bang that fucking nail joe is like hey
look fucking there's a hammer and there might be a nail do what you will with it what do you guys
think like you know he's not he's just presenting it and stuff like that i don't know i just
and i'm assuming so that could get me in trouble but you know i'm pretty sure in my assumption is
correct with with both people's intentions so yeah oh i couldn't agree with you more look you
can't compare batteries with uh sorry we can't compare apples with battery acid as we say in
the teaching world right you've got to make a logical comparison you're totally right like
ray's looking like for a very very specific particular thing or a very particular like
trend or changing behavior whatever you want to call it right he's
looking for that right killer thing yeah where joe's maybe just trying to get the news out
i wasn't seeing anything about it i just when ria said like joe lacks the requisite like you know
skills to be able to like do i kind of like was like he's kind of right do you know what i mean
but that's like you said that that's not Joel's game.
Yeah, yeah.
If he was trying to be the hammer, like, yeah, maybe so.
Like, you know, if he was trying to get him with the,
aha, like I got you fucked up on my interview, probably so.
But like, I don't think that was the objective for what Joel was trying to do.
Joel was trying to just bring him on to bring him on to capitalize on the moment, right? Like, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that that's what it was so i don't know i don't think that's a fair again i'm just i feel
like i'm kind of like backing my friend i agree with you i agree with you and i also say like
i kind of understand what ray meant when he said that you know he wasn't it wasn't like
yeah yeah like i get where ray's coming from too i get it he really wasn't shit talking joe at all
he was just like being frank about
like you know jp hasn't been pushed on the things that really matter right on no no sure not on
mario nor for sure i mean we're talking about joe's audience look mario's audience like at the
minute jp has not answered any of the questions about the alleged shady stuff that's been found in the on-chain data.
And according to Rhea, it's shady as fuck, like tank.
There were so many things to do with the vestibule.
There's so many.
I get it.
I do think, again, I do think that there is a lot of questionable
And like not very comfortable
Things that
Are in the data
That's
I guess I'm just
I'm so used to being
Let down
That it's like not a big deal to me anymore
I don't know
Well do you know what's interesting though
And I was thinking about this the other day
You know
If something's normally being like a proper scam or whatever like this right or you know the owners
have like made out with a nice fat bag or whatever they normally disappear and you know you'll either
not hear from them and then they'll be reborn in some you know new incarnation at a later date right
new incarnation of the later date right like you've got to think that this guy's been like
front and center on every show every interview that's probably hit him up except for ruck fm
but he's been fronting like he's really trying to front this off in public and not like look
like he's running away which is not the normal sign of someone who's got something to
hide so like i'm giving credit where credit's due do you know what i mean like if i was jp and i'd
scam millions you wouldn't see me for dust right i'd be in mauritius now on a beach get me
dick sucked right yeah i wouldn't even have twitter on me phone do you know what i mean
yeah i'd like disappear properly right and he hasn't i don't know maybe i don't know i don't know why people do what they do
maybe he's thinking if he does that then it like cements him as a scammer when i don't know i don't
know why people do what they do dude but i get it i get it maybe all right that's gonna be interesting isn't it
hmm where's b bands today anyway we lost winners now obey bands today she's uh
she's there but she's not there you're all right b bands are you all right
no she's not blinking i know blink blink twice if twice if Andrew's got you chained in the basement.
So what are you motherfuckers up to?
You know what?
I can't help.
I'm sorry.
Is somebody else talking?
No, no.
Go on, son.
So I can't help but think, and it's not a pivot, but I guess it's kind of like an expansion to what we're talking about with scammers in this space and shady stuff and all that stuff
like, you know, I know ohm and JP is like
The hot topic right now. I'm coming. We gotta
We gotta charge you at the office cuz we gotta go um, I can't I can't sorry
I can't help but think like what is your guys's opinions of other founders of other
Products and chains like I'm just gonna be very controversial and you say would with the token price and what's happened with
Osmosis like do you guys consider sunny as a scammer and all the decisions Dave made?
you know what about shane and and stargates is
is he a scammer because you know i don't agree with some of the decisions they made with the
tokenomics and the vesting and paying stuff and all that stuff i feel like is that scam stuff
is that malice is that like intentional i don't know like what did you guys experience about all that because right
now we're just like hounding down those things that we don't like that we're finding on chain for
for all but like there's a lot of that
thing i'll say i mean go on god i'll say uh the the two examples of people you gave me, I've seen nothing that would indicate to me that they're scammers.
In my opinion, what sets scammers apart from, and when I say scammers, I'm actually more specifically talking about extractors of value.
I'm actually more specifically talking about extractors of value.
I would say you venture,
like the delineating factor would be,
are you playing within the publicly accessible rules of engagement or the
boundaries of engagement? So I'll give you an example.
If a project has a tokenomics that shows where everything's say some vesting period ends for a founder
or some group of people and they sell.
Most of the time we think about VCs, right?
The VCs aren't scammers.
They're playing within the boundaries
that they were allowed to play the game in.
And for a founder, if their vesting contract is up,
yeah, we all want them to hold it.
But if they sell their tokens, they're within their rights to do so.
And so I wouldn't consider either those people scammers.
They're just behaving in a way that isn't long-term aligned with uh their project they're still behaving
they're still playing within the rules that we all agreed upon uh so i wouldn't yeah red eye
red eye that's exactly so what you've just said is exactly what i was thinking but i was thinking
about it in a different form right when tank mentioned those particular two projects i was thinking but i was thinking about it in a different form right when tank mentioned those particular two projects i was like you know what regardless of anything at some point in time the
bill becomes due and you can't have these get big massive teams you can't be taking like you know
21 million in uh investment right which is what osmosis did in uh september 2021 right
you can't have like you know all these like content creators and blah blah blah getting
now paid out in the token or whatever you can't have all of these like unlocks like you're talking
about where you're like oh well we'd hope you know like seed investors or vcs would you know hold but blah blah blah
like i kind of get what you're saying red eye my my the minute he said about osmosis and stargaze
i just thought you know what bill comes due at some point or another like you can't escape the
bill right you've all we've all got well if you're in the u.s i mean we've got taxes to pay uh you
know you have lives to live you You have a cost of living.
And I'm not saying you need to sell a million dollars of your token to support your cost of living.
But, like, there is a bare minimum for these things.
And then there's other outside factors.
So, like, I would consider people who are scamming who are playing outside the rules that are publicly known.
Now, you can be – where you could potentially get into scamming is where you don't let people know the technicalities of how – of all the rules.
So, like, you don't tell people to fine print where it's like – an example would be, like, teams have the ability to stake even though they might not be vested like fully vested right
but you could stake your assets and earn from those uh also you mean you mean the scam you
mean the scam that was always built into the sdk uh vesting slash staking module right yeah yeah yeah that's where you're starting to venture into it
because people like that yeah you're like circumventing the rules effectively through
through no no no no no no no no no no you're right so it's what jay carton did with stargaze right
when he made that few million right so the sdk staking right, what happens is your tokens are locked, your tokens are
locked and they're on a vesting schedule.
However, within the contract, those vested tokens are automatically staked, but the rewards
are not locked, Red Eye, right?
Yeah, you can claim the rewards and sell them if you'd like.
Well, no, no, the thing was, this is the difference with Cosmos.
Nobody was claiming rewards and selling them.
They were claiming rewards and then they were banging them straight in the pools
and they were farming on the massive high APRs when they were first launched.
That's how Jake extracted, what, three to five million from Stargazer
when we first kicked off, right?
Everybody knows about how Jake did it, yes? Because he was an early contributor to Stargaz when i first when we first kicked off right everybody knows about how jake did it yes
because he was an early contributor to stargazers code and the cousin wasm element of it
jake got a nice little stash and it was vested as a contributor however his rewards immediately and
you know you've got to think that these vested amounts are very large so immediately the minute that
stakens launched right on the chain after the genesis event yeah these these people with massive
allocations are earning rewards not like you we have 150 bucks of token is it all right they've
got like 900 grand or 1.5 million of the token so immediately once the stake and kicks in
right to secure the network the rewards are
there they're available and then you wait until the pools get kicked up you know some of them
pools would have like 2000 apr in the first like few days they'd literally just be claiming the
rewards like by the half an hour 10 minutes whatever. Claiming as many rewards and just literally farming the fuck out of them.
Then dumping the farming rewards.
That's where the money came from.
That's where the...
So, I'm not accusing anybody and I don't know because I'm not a chain sleuth.
But you guys don't think Sonny did stuff like that?
Probably.
You guys don't think anybody did...
Maybe not Shane because he said I think
he said it publicly like oh I haven't sold whatever but like you don't think
all these guys have done scamming it's kind of it's kind of stuff it's just
funny how selective we are with with our chain sleuth in and and our finger
pointing and stuff like that I don't know I just I would keep an open mind
with with with JP like with all that said, which a lot of it I agree with you, Red Eye.
I think when you're looking at the environment and you're talking about defining scammy people or scammy actions or what's acceptable, what's not.
Isn't it kind of all fair in love and war, especially in blockchain?
kind of all fair and love and war especially in blockchain like all of this was the environment
All of this was the environment.
it was set up from like anybody could have educated themselves earlier on with with any of this stuff
like why why just now did ray look into that why is it just not like apparently anybody could have
looked into any of this at any given time right like he could just say, it's been there. Why wouldn't anybody just look at this stuff? Do you know what would be the best?
I'll agree.
Sorry, Red Eye.
I was going to say, it's just, yeah, it's a lot of energy and effort to go through it.
And kind of like gold mining, you know.
And I don't even know if they're getting paid for it.
So if this is just an itch they're scratching because it's probably a little dangerous.
But yeah, someone's got to do it.
Yeah, it's like people speak.
People usually speak because of a financial or social incentive, right? incentive right like i've said that many times people's opinions and and actions usually spawn
from usually from a social like reason or a financial reason so maybe they're getting paid
and or maybe it gives them relevance in the environment that they're playing into but like
if we're talking about like oh scammers are what i'm not defending jp or omer i don't really have
that much i've never really had that much of it so i really don't care but i just think it's funny like how people come out and like give energy or or or
anything to these topics when it's like what are we what are we all talking about like this stuff
has been on chain and and you know available for anybody for how long it's just now something that they want to pick on why
that's it i don't think it makes them a scam like i don't know man it's hard scammers like if you're
deliberately like you said red eye trying to hide something or you omitted something and or there was
like a back door open fucking cheat like trap thing that you could set for people and you just
ensnared them on purpose i think
that's kind of like scammy stuff but like i don't think what happened with om is necessarily
worthy of being able to slap scam on somebody's name i don't know well the rw the rwa thing if
that turns out to be real and proof that is scammy as right that if that turns
out to be real that they're claiming that they've tokenized a building right on chain and all it is
is that they use the osmosis token factory module minted a token divided it between the alleged uh
shareholders of the company that owns a building or whatever
and then they've put the address in the memo field that is not an rwa so me and red eye
obviously having a good discussion about how we think why not well we think right maybe it's a
receipt to the people that it's a receipt to the people that held that that transaction or rather
that was involved in that transaction.
That's their way of contractually showing that they are involved in that
transaction.
Why would that,
is it just because there's no legal,
there's no legal,
there's no legal,
no legal,
that's,
that's your,
that's your,
that's your signature.
You have the,
the address.
It went to you
I think it would I think it would stand not no
I think I think you guys are how
A couple of people they have the memo on it
It's like putting their own John Hancock on a written signature saying we're splitting this up by five
You have the receipt you have the receipt you have the seat you have the wallet address
It went to your aka bank account or holding or escrow, which again, like your wallet address.
And there's a memo field and we can track it there.
Why isn't that a form of RWA?
I can get your address, right?
And I can mint a token and I can split it between me, Finn and B-Bands.
I can put your address in the memo field and say, I own your house.
I don't think so.
I mean, there's got to be other ways to go about doing it,
but I'm just saying, why isn't that part of an RWA process?
Well, Tank, you might have missed the beginning of the convo,
but me and Red Iron and Matt were actually talking about how we, like,
think RWAs are just a fucking pure scam, like, fad.
Like, we...
Well, I definitely think they're kind of scammy.
I'm just saying, like, I think it's weird.
Again, the point I'm trying tomy. I'm just saying like I think it's weird again
what the point I'm trying to make is I think people like
they
Like, you know, it's their point of view
RWA that doesn't make sense for me and my vision of what an RWA is when in a sense if you're just talking about like
Fulfilling the transaction and doing what you're trying to do like what is RWA?
Really stand for? Like real-world assets and stuff like that.
If you're able to split it and track it,
didn't it just do the function?
I was wrecking my brain about an RWA
because in my opinion,
when I think about RWAs from a very top level,
you think about the most globally demanded assets.
Right now, it's primarily dollars, gold.
Yeah, those are the primary real world assets that we've seen uh brought on chain but i was thinking about another
idea that would be worthwhile uh like just thinking about other consumer products other
businesses where there's an exchange of uh potentially unique items and i was thinking about something that was, I know this is recorded, but maybe someone's
already working on this.
I don't know.
But imagine something like Ticketmaster where for local, I mean, all the way down from minor league teams, I'm just thinking about baseball right now, but like minor league teams all the way up to major league teams.
For all these stadiums where they play, right, each seat is a ticket.
And these stadiums have season tickets.
They've got people who buy tickets that we'll call, whatever.
I was thinking a way to tokenize the ownership of these seats and then being able to provide some sort of official reseller platform where,
you know, the stadium is able to set some boundaries.
They're a function of the original price above and below the original price,
but effectively like you could be able to resell these items
and be able to verify the authenticity of them through, you know,
the on chain minting of them,
and also the chain of ownership of me buying it from someone who bought it from this.
It's all verifiable.
But you also have all that price data and historical data.
That would be worthwhile for consumers to be able to see,
okay, these areas have really high turnover. So,
you know, if I do want to buy a ticket late, like these are the areas where I'm going to get my best
bang for my buck or anyways, just a, it was an interesting way to kind of think about the RWA,
that niche sector of the industry. And it probably,
it probably can extend far beyond what we've originally imagined. But for the most part,
when I think of RWAs,
I do think of like,
I just think of dollars and gold for the most part.
Yeah.
And that was,
that was my point.
Sorry.
I was driving and trying to do multiple things.
If I was raising my voice or my tone, I didn't mean to come off that way. But my point is i was driving and trying to do multiple things if uh was raising my voice or my tone i didn't mean to come off that way but my point is like i
think we because we are so native in crypto we're so involved like we have this set way of thinking
about certain things certain uh uh topics or um whatever you know whatever you want to call them
and stuff like that discussions that we have it's just i i don't know i think like you said it earlier i think people need to really keep an
open mind on a lot of these things well that's why we're willing to talk about it and that's why we
always have open mics and welcome all of these different viewpoints because if we were living
in an echo chamber it wouldn't be much fun brother so like this is the whole point of rack fm what's happening now
is absolute peak or typical rack of them
right you know what i mean yeah so like yeah so like yep no and i agree that's why i love coming
over here it's like you guys let me spot on sometimes i'm wrong and sometimes i'm right
i'm on the fence i'm on the fence right i'm just saying if if what race says the other day all
turns out to be true there's
going to be a lot of questions you know well for sure yeah and he's gonna have they're gonna have
to walk that tightrope and answer him and stuff like that they i think they should anyway i mean
i think that they definitely have been kind of avoiding uh the obvious uh concerns that people
have had um but yeah like i don't know man I did to just go back to what we were originally talking about when you were
saying like,
is that an RWA by buying this property and in wherever they bought it from and
just sending this transaction?
I'm like,
I mean,
yeah,
why not?
I mean,
I guess,
I mean,
who's to say process,
but if that's the only thing that we're seeing,
I could understand the additional skepticism.
It's like,
okay,
where's the other. Yeah. Like that's the only, well, that's what I was saying. Like, if that's
the only thing I would be like, ah, but like, there's obviously got to be more to the process.
That's kind of like what I was trying to get at before. Like, but if that's just part of the
process and like, who's this say, that's not the first step. You know, I don't, I don't know. I'm
trying to keep an open mind to it. I know when you buy real estate in general,
like there's multiple steps, right?
Like, so it might just be one in many, uh,
into finally getting actual RW, like I'm air quoting right now.
You guys can't see it.
RWAs in that process on chain more, uh, standardized.
I don't know. I don't know. You know,
Hey tank, you love your, uh, UFC. You love your fighting, right?
Yeah, I haven't been able to watch any recently because I've been so damn busy, but yep. What do you think about Ilya to pori versus paddy the body?
What was that dude? I'm sorry. My my brother my son was asking me something Ilya Ilya Teporia versus Paddy the Buddy Paddy Pimlet versus Ilya
Dude, I want Batty to win. I just love Paddy the Baddy
You like Paddy do you? Are you Paddy fan?
I do. I just like it. I like him
Oh Paddy the Baddy
Oh Paddy the Baddy
I love Paddy Pimlet me. He's fucking class isn't he's like conor mcgregor mark two
uh i hope he fights ilia taporia though that would i think that would break like box office
records i think that would break like the eddie connor fight me like like that's the fight that
people want to see right now ilia taporia he did the uh mma podcast with joe rogan right i think like last week or
something people want to see that fight like that would be a real fight a real fight
i'll tell you that's the that's the fight to make right now with those two
because uh tapori has just gone up hasn't he didn't he relinquish the 145 belt which is why
volkanovski could fight for it against lopez
all right anybody see what happened to lopez no after the five rounds with volkanovski
he's been put on a permanent uh suspension by the florida athletic commission no
yeah i don't know i haven't been able to follow like i said
i there was four fighters that were put on like a permanent ban the other day i mean these bands
can be lifted but you've got to go through loads and loads of like and like
paperwork and tests and like like i think you've got to have three separate doctors like sign your
offer summits or lopez is uh indefinitely out of action even though he's
just fought for the title but man paddy pimlet against michael chandler was
unbelievable absolutely unbelievable that knee that split uh chandler's head open oh
was nasty that like that opened up chandler's head like a yeah i put some stuff in the nest
just some talking points i mean we've done the mantra thing we've talked about it for a while
uh who's heard about the russian major general that's just been assassinated by uh zielinski's
fucking bomb henchman another car bomb again you know like the last one was the uh moped they killed the uh the dude
that was uh sniffing around the uh biological weapons labs in ukraine the russian the russian
major that got assassinated like a few months ago they've just killed another one uh a top dude
so i've just stuck it in the nest i'll take care of tank he's taking his son somewhere i've just stuck it did you see this red eye or not uh yes fourth fourth tweet in the nest yeah yep fourth break in the nest so
russian general yaroslav uh moskolaev has sadly passed away after a car bomb went off near his
home in moscow i hope the world can see what uh truly ukraine has become
should be what ukraine has truly become uh the isis of europe so this is now the third
either car bomb or moped bomb uh the third bomb that ukraine have used in on Russian soil in Moscow to kill a very very high rank and
uh Russian either like general major general major like that's a pretty high level of escalation to
be bombing them in the middle of Moscow like what car bombs like uh yeah war is war sucks i don't know so what about what else what did you see about charles
oskinson on ethereum also in the war charles hoskin no no he's come out he's just had a uh he's just had a pod what was the name company that i sent i sent you guys
a dm about that there was some co-founder or some like senior developer that got drafted into uh
was it the russia ukraine war do you remember what i'm talking about robo if not i'll go find
yeah wait a minute i conscripted on the ukraine side of the russian side
i think it was the ukraine side yeah because they're running out to men they haven't got
enough men right they're snatching men off the streets yeah have you seen the videos out of
the ukraine of them snatching people on the street and that or not they get paid for it you know they get paid like 50 quid or something or 50 bucks a
a person that they snatch off the streets and take them into the army dude i watched the whole thread
i was that uh you know lord bbo lord bbo did a massive thread about two or three weeks ago and it was just video after
video after video of them literally driving around in in ukraine hunting people down and
just jumping out the van and snatching them off this like snatching young men off the
fucking streets is graphene that's what it was ah okay graphene os
it was okay graphene OS
graphene and graphene OS operating system yeah yes the mobile the mobile
operating system and our graphene the the snatched one of their devs no this
to this is on April 18th they put out something one of our two senior
developers has been forcibly detained and conscripted to participate in a war.
When they first went missing, we revoked all their repository accesses as a precaution,
but we soon learned their disappearance was completely unrelated to Graphene OS.
Wow.
Wow, wow, wow.
I mean, the fucking disgusting ukraine the fucking disgusting the nazi fucking
bastards like i've got no love for zelensky whatsoever the assault battalion they're just
absolutely fucking nazi fucking murder and cl that. From the way that this is framed,
they have been
pushing hard to basically
get it to where he's not going to
do frontline combat
because he's a security researcher
and engineer.
The way they're framing it, it sounds like
he's
being shifted to
being tasked with something related to that
instead of just like frontline combat.
I have got absolutely fucking zero love whatsoever for Zelensky
or anything to do with the Ukrainian side of this dispute.
I've got absolutely fucking nothing good to say about that man whatsoever.
He's absolutely rotten to the core.
He is corrupt.
He's a massive corkhead.
He's allegedly a fucking proper pedo, by the way,
for people who don't know.
That wouldn't surprise you, coming from the entertainment industry.
He's a pure Nazi lover, even though he's a jew so you know zelensky's a jew right
no yeah he's a jew but he's a late i mean he bought he bought hitler's mercedes you know
do you know hitler's like the old school mercedes that hitler had the famous one yeah
Yeah?
hitler's got you let's be bought it you know
Hitler's got
Mm-hmm
Zelensky bought it
You know
Have you seen his
Have you seen his mansion
Down on the French Riviera
Or not?
People buy
Dude, you know
People buy weird things
All the time
I mean
You know he's just bought
A 40 million euro mansion
Where did Zelensky get
40 million euros from
If somebody Like doesn't mind
he was on dancing with the stars a few years ago where does he just get 40 million for a
mansion on the french riviera can someone explain that to me and that's not the only property he's
bought he's allegedly bought around about six properties dude and they're all like
millions of pounds you know millions of dollars he's a bad man zolensky
like bad man and yet there's that's putin in church three times a week do you know do you
know does anybody know putin's just opened up russia to christians do you know about this or not
what do you mean by that if you're christian you now emigrate to Russia he said that he said that Russia will take in any Christian from anywhere in
the world as long as you're a bonafide Christian and take your in and look to
be like impressive like what how is this well you know Christians are being
killed across the world right now in large numbers don't you in russia no no in places
like the congo nigeria uh southern philippine all over the world christians are being butchered on
en masse all over the world right now dude they've just like they've just killed how
many the other day on easter sunday nigeria they've just but a fucking fuckton of them man, it's really really bad, well there's
a war on Christianity right now across the world.
And it's no news, the thing is no news channels are talking about it.
And ask yourself why they're not talking about it.
Have you not seen the stuff coming out of Congo and northern Nigeria, red-eye-nock. Every once in a while, I'll see something about, you know, a massacre,
but it's not super frequent.
Oh, there's been, like, I bet there's been four massacres in the last three weeks.
Big ones as well.
But what is the...
It just sounds like a nothing statement.
Fight Putin, you mean?
Well, I mean, I'm just.
The things are welcome here.
Okay, they're also welcome in, I don't know, half the, you know, the majority of the Western world.
Well, I was thinking, I was just kind of highlighting that like how we're all like
you know led to believe if you read the mainstream media you believe like you'd be led to believe like
putin evil putin enemy you know putin enemy number one russia russia russia russia is not the
fucking threat you should be worried about man russia's the russians just want to get on with
their business man man right the only
reason that you've vaded crime the only reason that invaded crime crimea was because of all the
that we're doing to the russian-speaking population of that area odessa crimea they've all been
speaking bro
for years
I like to maintain equal
equal opportunity
skepticism
you know I give everyone
the same opportunity to receive
my skepticism and so
all world leaders can
get it as far as I'm
concerned
Amen
So okay so Ukraine concern amen
so okay so ukraine hasn't been uh let's go there then very quickly so ukraine ukraine hasn't been the center of us money laundering and washing for the last like 15 years no
can we agree that's been right i am i can't I have no idea.
I know we spent a shit ton of money in Afghanistan.
I don't know how much money we've been sending to Ukraine for how long,
but at least, you know, I'm about to be 30.
So for me, when I think about fraud, waste, corruption,
I think about the wars in the Middle East.
The other thing to consider is,
what about the fact that there's evidence to suggest
that Fauci was, through places in Ukraine,
were doing gain-of-function research as well as
the so-called Wuhan lab leaks as well,
regardless of what you think about that.
Dude, it's full on.
The US, Tulsi Gabbard
was talking about this two years ago.
The US had eight bio labs
in Ukraine.
If we want to go there,
Matt, wait a minute, Matt matt it's a better one for you
i'll enjoy this which country's been the biggest producer of adrenochrome in the last 25 years
i have no idea ukraine i thought you might say that which which which country has been the
number one country for child exploitation and child trafficking in Europe
in the last 25 years?
Ukraine.
Okay, so question for you, Robo.
People don't realize, guys, Ukraine has been the wild west of Europe since 1990.
Is the blame to be placed on the place where these things are being done or the people seeking out these things being done to begin with.
Now the blames on people like John McCain,
Victoria Newland,
and the rest of the fuckers that started all of this in the first place,
Barry Obama.
You can blame Obama for a fucking whole ton of this shit,
whole fucking ton of it and didn't even
get me started on Barry Obama has anybody just seen the speech he's just given in Africa or not
no but what I was on that point yeah I would say you should equally look into and or condemn the
seeking out of this as much as the people who are allowing it to be done.
My thought is, you know, people often, just an example, people often say whenever the U.S. is
talking about reducing its climate, its impact on the climate, you know, people often point to the fact that,
you know, the U.S. maybe only makes up, I don't know, I'm going to throw out a random
arbitrary number that I think might fit, let's say 10% of the world's emissions.
And they're like, okay, well, what about all these other countries and areas that aren't
doing anything related to that?
Well, when you look at some of this data, you know, it can often be easy to skew, like, the impact that the U.S. had.
Like, if you look at ship salvaging, right, the U.S. sends a lot of it ships over to Bangladesh and India to be able to get broken down because they have really, really lax regulations on, you know, just like material
cleanup and safety relative to the U.S.
And so like there is still demand going to these places.
Demand is taking advantage of a less developed environment.
And it's easy to point to these less developed environments and say like look at all
this bad shit that's happening but i would also point out that like look at where the demand is
coming from and also try and condemn and uh you know cut that at the source if possible would you
okay right i i totally do do you know how much i value you and your takes i mean you know you've
always got a very base take right i don't mean, you know, you've always got a very base take, right?
I don't always agree with you, but you've always got, like,
a rationale that makes me second-guess myself or second-check myself, right?
But can we agree on one thing, that the US establishment
was solely responsible for the overthrow of a democratically elected regime in Ukraine in 2014.
Can we, like, are you willing to say, yeah, the US overthrew the democratically elected Ukrainian government in 2014,
yes or no, during the colour revolution?
I would lean to say yes, and thes has overthrown other democratically elected leaders
in other countries as well well of course well the thing is they would do a lot of their work
i mean they did do some work in africa but the vast majority of the work that they would do
when we like the cia and the state department back in the day was in northern africa like
oh there's a few things now but the vast majority of the overthrows that the
America I mean the Americans did do all this stuff in the Middle East and things but primarily
the US was focused on that when we talked about the economic hit men and the the overthrown of
governments predominantly in that like a central southern American regions and the Caribbean right
that like uh central southern american regions and the caribbean right uh they didn't really have
like a massive amount of interference directly in european countries ukraine is probably like i mean
i know it's the most recent one but it's certainly probably like the biggest one that they've done in
europe uh that's a hundred percent i mean this is like going back to like i don't know like
iranian standards or something back in the day when the air got the sharp back in power right
it's very public you know like there's other pub like if you go and look at data or look at
historical records you can find the ties to the u.s involvement in coups across Northern Africa,
the Middle East, I'm sure Southeast Asia's in there.
Oh, yeah, they've done them all over, mate.
It's in surprise, kill, vanish.
It's very common knowledge.
But Ukraine is probably like the biggest and most obvious one
that they did in Europe so far, right?
And ask yourself why i mean look i've
followed and you know read and listened to a lot of uh jeffrey sachs right and there ain't anybody
more knowledgeable on this entire thing than jeffrey sachs now people can say about them what
they want he's a puppet of this or a puppet of that he's just a historian and he's a puppet of this or a puppet of that. He's just a historian. And he's a very knowledgeable and accurate historian.
And he can literally tell you like, hey, this didn't start in like, you know, 2022.
This didn't start in 2014.
It started in like 1992 with Bill Clinton.
The US made so many promises to Russia that they they lied and lied and lied about every time they were
like to russia oh we'll not do this or we'll not do that they went and did it and literally
jeffrey sachs can trace the whole thing and if you just listen you'll be like fucking hell i honestly
i despise despise this idea that's been sewn into everybody's mind that that russia is the big
threat the big enemy and especially putin putin is not the fucking boogeyman i'm telling you now
i'm not i've honestly i'm i'm sick of it i can't cope with the lies anymore man that
is perpetrated all over mainstream like mainstream media are
just in lockstep with it putin bad man does he fuck man i would say yeah uh i i again i'm
skeptical of anyone who's pointing fingers and saying this is a bad person this is who we need to
uh hate or vilify or condemn but and you know drive the attention there rather than
and this is the this is the problem and this goes back to like you were talking about the
chainset why do people only look at all you know things like ohm or things it's like uh
that's where the attention and that's where the i guess the money is right sorry I'm a little high oh you do get
you're on the money Matt Matt what's the podcast in the UK again is that the
yeah it's it called trigonometry with them to like get clever dudes you know
is it the trigonometry podcast and I mean you know the dude or mystic looks a
bit like Mario Norfolk but he's a bit autistic i think it's
trigonometry uh red eye you know but they were doing uh a podcast no interviewing this dude
and he was talking about like russia and like the image and what we see and stuff like that right
and i think this was like last year so he was referring back to 2023 numbers
and he was like guess how many people were jailed in russia for posts on social media last year in the last 12 months and they were like i don't know they were like uh 2000 it's like 330 334
whatever the number was right it was like low 300s and then he was like how many people were jailed in the uk for exactly the same thing
and they were like oh uh 30 40 50 and he was like four and a half thousand and he's like tell me
putin's the bad man now you wouldn't think i'm gonna be i'm gonna this is just how i always
approach situations i'm you'm skeptical of that data.
If the data doesn't seem to align with what a narrative would have you believe,
my thought goes to how are they framing this that it doesn't align?
This is just me trying to pick apart an argument.
So my thought goes to
like all right this data seems off uh why would it be off and my first thought goes to like
there were i don't know dozens of videos that i remember being circulating around of people being jailed for physically protesting the war against Ukraine in Moscow
in the earlier, I believe in, was it 22 when the war started or was it 23?
I think it was 22.
February 22, yeah.
Yeah.
So like, maybe it's, you know, the internet stuff, the UK is, you know, much harsher on that. But, you know, Russia might be, we'll say, more harsh on the physical demonstrations out in Moscow, because, for whatever reason, I don't know. this is not to say the uk isn't doing some really stupid with trying to censor people's online
speech um it wasn't didn't trump say something recently about like restricting business with the
uk unless they're guaranteed some sort of free speech yeah he said he was going to put free
speech in the tariff negotiations but basically jd vance absolutely
obliterated kia starma to his face in the middle of the oval office like kia star was kia star was
like i'd like to reassure the vice president that uh we're very proud of our like free speech roots
and we've been the biggest proponents in history for the last 200 years i'm just thinking dude stop talking your fucking shit
matt will tell you imagine he's on the ground in england he'll tell you about people like lucy
connelly he'll tell you about people like peter lynch who just killed himself like matt the uk
right now is it like the starsy police or what made the thought police right
Like the Stasi police or what, mate?
The thought police, right?
It's pretty dire, if I'm honest.
Like one of the biggest ones, the biggest proponents of recent ones
was Wean O'Rourke.
When there was them stabbings at the nursery,
he basically went out.
I mean, he jumped the gun a bit and made an assumption, to be fair,
and he was like, oh, it was a particular religious community
that were responsible for it.
You know, I released the names and I wouldn't release the names.
And anyway, it turned out that the guy that did it,
they put all of his kids' photos all over the media.
He came back from a good Christian background and all of this,
and yet he had you know a
nicest handbook on his computer and uh recipes for making poison and stuff making ricin i was
making ricin so what the press did is the press painted them as an altar boy right little church altar boy yes
he's been on docket who right
so this this is really interesting this is what kicked the riots off in the uk last year just after labor had come to power this is how hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people have been jailed for facebook posts just since july last year yeah so axel rudica barna the kid who stabbed the kids at
the southport massacre who were at a basically a taylor swift dance class right 17 year old
oh they were he'd been on doctor who uh he'd done a children in need advert or something
been on doctor who uh he's done a children in need advert or something uh he was an altar boy blah
blah blah right uh he was rwandan now listen to this right there's very interesting backstory to
this so in rwanda there was two sides to the fight right there was the uh oh hell i'm gonna
forget the names now uh it's the rwandan story is actually a very complex story but
there were main two sides right and obviously like it was you know one was killing the other
but the other uh created militias and actually had a lot of retribution so there was one like
sort of major side who was allegedly doing most of the killing and then there was the
other side that was being killed but they were actually doing a lot of killing themselves
it's pretty much the same as the ira versus like the udf and uda in northern ireland right
the protestant catholics both had killing squads axel rudic cabana's father was a general on the like the inferior side but still committed
atrocious war crimes and he did a deal right where like he gave evidence and stuff like this and the
icc like under you know under anonymity and things like this and he actually got a deal
to take him to britain and that just happens to be his father so his father
axel rudy axel rudy gabbana who was rwandan by birth kia starmer actually handled his father's case right the immigration case and everything and
all the legalities to be able to actually get him in the uk under a false name so when you put that
in the equation when you go when you think about oh they kept this really quiet that it was a little
muslim terrorist and then you start finding out right
that wait a minute kia starmer when he was like right up there in the public like prosecution
department like one of the top lawyers in the country right uh on the queen's council oh he
helped actually get his father into the uk through these like legal legal loopholes and was able to
give him like a false identity
and everything you start to think yourself well wait a minute was kia starma just trying to
protect themselves here or what like it raises so many questions sorry red eye mate
oh i was i was trying to put up an emoji i'm just reading through the news and
through the news and I saw Tesla just added this new child safety feature to
their cars that basically locks out climate controls if the car senses
there's a child inside like it can't receive software updates it won't tweak
the heat you can't turn off the AC anything oh wow cabin temperature
changes they won't let you do that for dogs
it's not for dogs as well it can't just be for kids it must be for dogs as well right they
wouldn't have done it just for kids uh that's a good question well it says it's a feature called
child left alone detection uh so i guess it could work for a dog as well have you seen the latest tesla crash or not the dude
that just did you see i put in the group chat where he caught on fire but he was how lucky was
he that he's the cybertruck caught on fire but he crashed into a fire hydrant so the water was
all over the place when they dragged him out the car he just was rolling around in the water but uh
isn't he the baseball baseball future
star he's only young kid right he was going to be like one of the top baseball stars i think
he's dad is his dad like an nfl x nfl hero or something do you know what i'm talking about or
not i'll put it in the group chat earlier no uh i didn't see it okay here we go dude just uh he's
sort of about to put him in an induced coma
because his burns are that bad but he uh he was driving his cyber truck allegedly uh and he's
he's went mad or whatever and driving crazy and he's come off and he's uh hit a tree
and a fire hydrant at the same time and the cyber truck burst into flames
damn at the same time and the cyber truck burst into flames damn
i know you didn't want to be stuck in a cyber truck if the cyber truck's on fire right
uh well those battery um those battery fires are much harder to put out with traditional um
put out with traditional um with traditional you know fire suppression technology they are dude i
bet when they catch fire they are mad right because wasn't there wasn't there a time before
when loads of teslas were catching fire right yep it's interesting as well did anybody say that like tesla announced the delay in that
new cost efficient uh i think it's the cost efficient model y and then the stock still pumped
well i'm sure you saw their earnings report was abysmal i know and it's still pumped right
yeah i don't know how they're i, I guess people were expecting a lot worse maybe and this is better than they expected. I'm not sure
But I use sound baked you matey, alright. Are you baked?
No, I'm just chilling. I'm just chilling. I do like to have a self-sert i do like morning but not i'm not ripped
mattie always sounds like that man that's just red eye you know he sounds totally stoned out he's not
he reminds me you know of uh you know deputy dog deputy dog me old mate from south carolina there he's a proper southern boy man math he probably doesn't give zero like
have you noticed we always get the southern boys didn't we in there right fm
like whenever i have anybody from like mass. Everybody's like Texas, Florida, South Carolina.
Like we're not giving any fucks, bro.
We got guns.
We got fucking.
Maybe it's maybe it's we we respect and enjoy people speak in their mind and not feeling like they got to hide behind some sort of, don't know pc wall that being said you can be you could be totally
respectful and not have to change the way you speak uh so i don't know well that
fucking wades change the way you speak red eye are again
i'm just winding you up I've got I've had
pretty
severe
ADHD most of my life
so weed is
a nice way to
counteract some of the
scatterbrain-ness
and then also
coffee, generally when I'm
listening to R fm i'm
also getting a few small cups of coffee in as well i think i've got the hd but i take
uh illegal high content thc cbd every single day medicinally i think it helps me loads
my Lord.
Yeah, there is a truth to that,
you know what I mean?
That's something that helps me
stay on like a train of thought
a little bit easier.
I mean, sometimes, you know,
I can't catch a train of thought
gets away from me,
but like when you're thinking
really complex about really complex things
where it might not be an easy
A to B to C sort of thing.
I find it does help me keep track of all of these other things that I have to
consider when going through and understanding something a bit more complex.
But.
Do you make lists?
Do you make lists or not?
You're a list man. what for what for anything i'm not list for everything me in my life like uh yeah yeah i like uh i like lists and organization
oh bro i'm obsessed with lists like i must have like about 400 in my notes on my phone like
everything around my life like exists from some form of list like i love i love a bit of like uh
organization in my life like that how are you cap it job loud to my again again uh alina in whiskey
oh that's just me mate i forgot i wasn't on mute say man you just love the tie didn't
you just love when i just break out in the tie no yeah what happened to b-bans she's off right
yeah she said like uh three words today i don't know did she even speak
yeah she came in at the beginning and then just bang she was gone i don't know i thought she was
just listening to the intro to get like used to what we were talking about with the uh almond
mantra crack and stuff like that right yeah yeah yeah hey matt you heard me speak thai there though
right it must be kind of weird for you me and you because we've got the same accents come from the
same place and then you hear me talk like that no do i do i speak do i speak thai with though right it must be kind of weird for you me and you because we've got the same accents come from the same place and then you hear me talk like that you know do i do i speak
do i speak thai with a macam accent do i well i wouldn't know because i've never spent too much
time listening to people speak it but what i would see is there was definitely pure macram twang and
that you were spewting down that microphone there do you know in thai you're not you're in thai speaking spanish you know when he's talking
about having his heavy texan accent he'll turn that shit up whenever he's out of state and
trying to speak spanish in german aggression
you confused yeah did you even i said uh so i mean mate p is older than me so they're more senior so we use p for the older people non for the younger people right so his name's pit so i
called him pay pit but did you hear me say job low so low is like finished
like past uh but job means like work here so i didn't know why they do it but they'll say like
job low it means are you finished work job low me finish work now it's so easy what was that man how long did jacob learn it oh i've never ever studied thai
i've just picked it up on the streets and that like the thing is i can't speak formal thai
because formal thai is a whole different thing i can only speak like street shit
but i can do everything that i need to do but i've just literally i did i tell you what when i first came i did learn classroom thai but i self-taught myself from like a pdf and that was me first like
72 hours of teaching in thailand i just learned like sit down shut your mouth open your books page
94. i learned like the very basics because the kids were taking the piss out me everything else
i've just learned like from my girlfriends or like me it's my girlfriend's
family like you know when you're in the village and no one speaks english except your girlfriend
like you're gonna have to try to learn to speak a bit of air thai or you're just gonna have a
miserable time do you know what i mean like well we also talked about yesterday how robo is a beacon for white foreigners in thailand uh he
just attracts them like no other and we're trying to be go on go ahead uh sorry red eye i'm not a
piece of real estate over here you can he's winding me up matt is what he's doing because i'm sick of
foreigners who just think that because you've got a white face that they've got some intrinsic connection to you're in the like you're in the supermarket you're doing your business
right you're walking around the supermarket yeah and then out of nowhere like this dude will just
be like oh hello how are you what's your i'm thinking bro off i'm doing me shopping you
daft you're white i'm white that makes no this neat connection between us bro like fuck off
How many of them go friends read I do you reckon out of Chucky
You know when he said
Had a what a dick
I don't know man
I reckon he learned most of his time
Negotiating good rates
You know that's how we learned the numbers
That's how we learned the numbers really in all the street talk
Is that right Robbo?
He did say
I couldn't tell if you said
You learned it from fucking your girlfriends
Or if you learned it from
Your fucking girlfriends
The order of the words
ah the second the second one the second one yes i didn't learn it from fucking my girlfriends i
learned it from my fucking girlfriends yes correct so matt's right yeah it's like why is all your
street tie highly sexual it's like i'm just trying to buy some gas here
matt's matt's on the money me negotiating skills absolutely on the money one of the first things i learned in thai was like oh yeah ping magna which means like hell that's expensive
and you make the ties make incredible noises listen they're like oh yeah oh yeah like they make
all these noises like and it's like honestly it's mad as like they do it all the time you
know these noises have got no uh grammatical value at all they just put like exaggeration
in there or like you know like where we'll be like really like really oh like you know
that's what the ties are like but in everything they say so you know here's the one for you you
know like if i'll get dressed up to go out or something right and i'll come out the condo and
all the women sitting there and they're like you know me hair done and that nice shirt on pair jeans and that right me air force ones and they're all like oh like that's a noise out the make like it's
fucking mad like i like it though me you know if you're gonna drop something right in thai
if you've got to drop something on the floor you'll go like it means nothing it's just like a noise
do you know what still gets me lads I love this listen to this do you know
how every single Thai in Thailand answers the phone or not bearing in mind
the Thai greeting face to face is sawadhi cap right can you guess how they answer
the phone or not no uh do they is it you does it involve the n-word at all no they just say hello
they're like hello cap and then they'll just like burst into time. But I'll answer the phone in Thailand with like,
cop is like a nice thing.
Or if it's a woman, it's car.
Hello, car.
Hello, car.
Oh, shit, me battery.
Guys, give us a minute to get me power banking.
Yeah, the only other language that I've attempted to learn is Spanish.
I'd say I'm probably like an intermediate speaker, but it's all through like formal stuff.
stuff
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you hear the dialect that we have that must be like what did you say did you ever get confused
by what he's saying uh it's mostly like uh local terms that you know i have to use context to
you know i have to use context to get it but that being said you know i live in the deep south
in the u.s and people uh in the south have you know a really thick accent uh which apparently
there's a correlation between the english accent and the southern accent uh which maybe robo knows a bit more about but um so like i've been used to
i've lived in the south my whole life even though i don't consider myself to have an accent and both
my parents one parent was from florida the others from california um and so they never had accents
yet i grew up around people like that um so no it doesn't it doesn't bother me it i don't
think it's difficult uh it does make me laugh sometimes listening to it but i say i laugh at
people with really really thick southern accents as well so it's not necessarily unique to
laughing at you guys it's just sometimes words sound funny when you add a
extra twang to it i am i i've realized like even when i'm in work or here i'm doing it again i'm
trying to speak standard english i'm trying to keep it in check the only time i ever revert
to speak in my native dialect is when i'm at home with my family or i'm on these spaces with robo
oh god i remember the first time you're at home it is i remember the first time
uh my boss fereza he sent us a message he was like matt you need to jump on this space
you know i was like why he went because they're talking about some cracker stuff.
But honestly, jump on.
So I jumped on and I heard him talking.
Literally straight away, Robbo was in full-fledged.
And I pressed request to speak straight away.
And I went, there's only one place in the fucking world
where that accent's from, you fucking twat.
I'd never even met him or had any engagement with him before but I
immediately knew where he was from
yeah I'll give you a classic shella why I man why I man
nobody else in the world says why I man unless you're from sunderland right it's literally we
own that shit we own the ip on it why i man means are you talking shit it means yes i left me um i
was leaving early work uh at the office that was maybe like a year and a half ago and i went reetam gan yim and everyone just looked at us in total shock they were like
what did you just say red eye do you understand what i've just said there reetam gan yim
oh dude
like right i'm going home yeah spot on that's it he's been listening to you enough, Robbo, to get the lingo. This guy's a full-on...
He's got a codex from you from the North East.
Red eyes in the club. Listen to this, right?
Hey, red eye, I saw an absolutely stunning bird today.
Am I talking about a bird in the tree or something else?
Well, if you were at the club club you're talking about a bird if you're saying uh you were down
by the down by the canal and you saw a bird i would maybe have to ask for some more context
i'm about to get him into like getting used to like the fact that women are birds you know
did you ever used to refer to people on the street as mush
oh i do come on how many fucking how many words have we got three fucking shit back Did you ever used to refer to people on the street as mush? Oi.
Dude, come on.
How many fucking words have we got through fucking shit back home?
Can I ask that mush out with half?
He's got a spare light.
It just means like a person, right?
Yeah, mush person.
Oi, what's that fucking mush looking at?
You know what I mean?
Oh, Red Eye, you'd be surprised right we've got more like bad words
to slag people off right and to call people than you'll ever like here in your life like
we must have about 50 insults that the rest of the world doesn't use
Yeah, that's fair. We're... Yeah, I don't know. The US... I feel like we lean too much
yeah that's fair we're
on curse words and we don't get creative enough with our own, you know, other words to, you
know, really describe what we're talking about.
You know, Matt, these all thought I was talking a load of the other day when i was talking about
like cockney rhyming slang and that like the proper proper like proper school right
half of them were like what the are you saying like apples and pears in me old china
but you know matt after the war because they it all being away like together fighting alongside each other
I didn't know about you but my grandma my grandfather came home from the wall
Speaking like fucking cockney rhyming slang every day. It was he it was he stick it was his thing
Well, there there have been times where I've got a buddy
Who who's the one who introduced me to this local dive bar that I like going to,
where I've lived in South Carolina for like 15 years at that time already.
And I went out there, and it was late at night,
and we were out there hanging out, drinking, smoking.
And we were listening to this older guy talk and i had i leaned over to my buddy i was like i fucking can't understand what this dude's saying and it
was because he was like a really old kind of fatter redneck thick accent and he had a mustache
that covered his lips so i couldn't read his lips i couldn't like being fat made it so he
couldn't enunciate i guess as well and then also that thick accent on top i was like i legitimately
i think he's speaking english but i fucking can't understand it and i've gotten better at it i've
gotten a lot better at being able to understand those uh those heavy accents
i once uh i once met a bird i once met a woman who uh was like a mute you know a proper mute but uh she wore tight jeans so i could read her lips
sorry i couldn't resist that one like it was there for the taking
one for the dads that's there for the taking? One for the dads.
That's one for the dads, all right?
Matt, you know who's the worst?
I mean, I've spent a lot of time up there, so, like, I know how it works.
I mean, Australians are pretty bad with their, like, slang and stuff.
But I'll tell you what, I want to pay respect to Matt because he used the word dialect because he's not a pleb.
Matt clearly understands the difference between accent dialect and idiolect when people say oh that's such a weird accent it's like no dude it's dialect based on geographical
location you idiot but the worst people matt without a shadow of a doubt in the world even
worse than indian people are scottish people you know the hardcore glass wage and
scottish like they use words that don't even exist so do you know this red eye do you know what the
scottish like this is english but you know what the scottish english word is for the word like
no you know no like uh k n o w as in like i know they say ken right so this is pure dialect yes like dialect
is all about geographical location you know uh i was down south in england and me mate was like uh
oh what was the word of use again for food uh oh what was not not hammer uh i'll remember this kid says oh do you want to come here
well we use loads of words for food in england don't we like bait like we
gran yeah yeah i thought it was also uh like drugs you know
oh dude i can't even remember the word yamma yamma that's what it was i was down south working for
the first time and i was like about 21 22 and this kid i was working with his hair so we're
going for some yamma mate and i'm like what the is that what's he talking about and then i found
out it was like bait scram and i was like oh okay right or like that's dialect it's it's the words that are used within a
certain like lexus or lexical set uh it's just like how words are you so like i see it everybody
in scotland will say i can i can i can ken ken ken like the man's name you know barbie and ken
ken means i know i can i can it means i know literally if i hadn't
went and lived up glasgow for a bit and spent time up there i wouldn't even know this i
couldn't even understand scottish people when i first started hanging around with them and that
man because like we used to go to glasgow enough for the raves uh in the sub club and the archers
right do you ever go up there matt the archers back in the day or not roger sanchez i'm gonna forget you're a decade older than me man robo dude you've been to glasgow
before or not uh no i've never been i've never been up the ouija side now oh it's mad
there's like it uh things you know like uh where people are being stabbed and they put the little
tributes on the street out of them and that you'll see like a football jersey with like flowers and then they're all over the city
glasgow's a very evil rough place like really mad it's i mean they're cleaning it up now but
back in like when i was gone up there back in the day like late 90s early 2000s and then i met a
load of them in australia so when i went back to uk to study my teaching degree i went up there a few
times to meet me crew and all a very wild place like we used to go to the archers and we were
roger sanchez at his residency and we used to go to a place called a sub club hell man
underground sub club one like the worst clubs i've ever been in my life like one of the best
but like the worst you know i mean like the worst clubs i've ever been in my life like one of the best but like the
worst you know i mean like the ceiling was dripping with water and everything man like
that kind of place oh five on it i got five on it how you doing brother
oh he's jumped up and ghosted us red eye he might be battling some wildlife you never know out there
in uh the desert it could be a you know a pack of coyotes or some wild boar chasing them he could
be on a four-wheeler right now he could be on an oil rig i mean you never know with him. Oh, Landman. Landman's up all sorts over there, isn't he?
Matt, have you ever met and had a big crack on with 500 before or not?
He's fucking hilarious.
He's obviously not coming to speak at the minute.
He's like an American robo, in a sense, you know?
You mean he's got one of his...
Maybe a bit more cultured uh
he's worse than me though that now he's worse than me definitely 100 he's worse than me
every time i think i've got a story 100 um access denied is actually working on oil rigs i uh i wear
a suit but not really a suit i show up in vans and say like, hey, man, what do you want on your website?
That looks dangerous over there.
You think you guys should be wearing a helmet?
Shit like that.
Are you OSHA?
You working for the Fed?
No, I'm an independent web designer, so they pay me to come out there and take their pictures.
And I haven't had to work on an oil rig since I was like 19.
I mean I'll go sit in my truck at an oil rig but I don't get out of that
fucking truck unless I have to.
I'm a I guess the best way to put it if you've worked a blue collar job I am way
too clean to fit in with the guys working but way too grimy looking to be a company man yeah man manual work i'm i'm retired from manual
work me like i indeed need manual work ever again in my life me like if my brain doesn't earn books
then it can it can off like i indeed need more manual now i'm past it i was all right when i was 30 i didn't
mind but on the farms and that but now that it's your stuff and you're doing your manual work but
if it's for somebody else that the only job i want right is being able to teach online
where the other person doesn't want to use the camera
i hate when i've got to do online teaching and put the camera on
so the day you know sorry well i did seven hours over eight hours and uh not one person on a friday
uses their cameraman at all it's class like i hate it when they put the camera on though man
ah i didn't like that you've got to be good you've got to be in the house you know your hair's got
to be done you've got to have a shirt on you've got to look professional you've got to make sure
that there's no lube or anything in the background on your cabinets or something you know what i mean
or a joint behind it yeah yeah i'm designing a backdrop right now for for streaming and stuff
since i'm doing a lot with neutron and i'm trying to put all that shit in the background like i'm
looking for the most fucked up shit i can put on the shelves do you know when i first started
teaching online during covid i was teaching a bangkok glass right and i had a classroom of 15
fucking people in the classroom and i'd set them a task
and i mean i obviously was 15 you know i've got the camera on uh not all of them had the camera
on but a fair few so you know i put my camera on and i literally thought i'd put myself on mute
not realizing like on microsoft teams that if you press the space bar it'll like unmute you and i
must have put myself on mute and then i did the space bar enough
realize and then took me sell off mute and i just dropped a massive bang and fart right
and then i literally after i thought that i was like oh i'm so glad that's out and then all i
heard was the coordinator's voice like uh andy uh you're not on mute and i was like oh my life like
yeah you're not on mute that was like oh my life like literally i just let the most bang and fart
out in one of my first ever classes like i was like i'm down horrendous here like i learned
now i double check the mute like i double check everything me like i'm paranoid as
proper paranoid to death especially when you're teaching you know that can get you
oh access denied me on the road oil rigs i see your boss is five on it your boss like
a what what's going on here yes sir i'm on the compressor station right now getting all grimy
good money though bro right oh yeah 20 hours for only working 13 and
yesterday I got 20 hours falling work in 13 so doing pretty good oh that's what
I'm talking about I love the scam do you know when you get a nice little juicy
little scam like that little sweet touch Matt right well it's always love perks
like the person a job we get paid by the job, yeah. So if we work, you know, one hour, we get paid for 10. If we work 10 hours, then we get paid for 10. So
better to get it done quicker.
Yeah, we were just in East Texas over by Nacogdoches a couple days ago, and it was like an
eight-hour drive from where we were usually working.
And it's like a completely different area over there.
The trees are huge and it's swampy and it's humid,
but it's nice to be back in West Texas again.
Texas is like literally one of the only three places I think I would want to
This is like literally one of the only three places I think I would want to live in America.
live in America.
Well, I mean, yeah, because like if you go to like Japan or anywhere, you ask someone where they're from.
We don't say we're American.
We say we're Texan.
And then two, you ask any of those motherfuckers to draw Texas and they can.
No one can draw Oklahoma.
What the fuck is up with that place
i don't know i'm matt uh i mean you're well-traveled dude so like if you're at a
conference or something you're aware another country or whatever if people ask where you're
from do you do you always class yourself as like do you say the uk or great britain or
do you say england because i'm an
englishman first english right it just happens that my passport says uk but i don't resonate
with the uk you understand yeah i'm i i say i'm an englishman because i'm english born and bred
born in eng, the country.
Oh, baby, we're trying to get you a mic, mate.
I don't know what happened there.
You requested and then it's not... I've sent you another one, matey.
I did accept you, but I don't know what's happening.
Yeah, Matt, people might not realise that there's a distinct difference
in, like, how do I say this?
I mean, historically, there's a big difference,
but my mate who's from Wrexham,
if I said, like, he was British, he'd knock me head off.
He's Welsh, right?
The kids, the Glaswegians I was talking about from Scotland,
if I was to say they were British, they'd knock me head off.
They're Scottish.
I'm English.
My mate Andy's Welsh.
Like, we all know that we've got out.
We really, like, it's very important to us, I think,
a lot of us anyway,
if you're not like a
white uptight liberal like none of us regard ourselves as being british right i'm pretty sure
me phone keeps locking i'm cleaning the bird stand but yeah um i know i never
refer to myself as british um are you from the uk and i say england
yeah the only time i've ever had people say they're from the uk is when they're like being
south african or something and they've like moved over like like when they were like you know a young
kid or whatever every person i know that's been born within those isles and i i like to call it britain i don't
like to call it great britain uh so if anybody doesn't know the difference uh britain is the
one single island of england uh wales and scotland the term great britain was brought in
obviously after the partition of ireland and that became the fourth thing so that the name britain was brought in obviously after the partition of ireland and that became the fourth
thing so that the the name britain which is an ancient name obviously uh going back to you know
the days of border sea or whatever it relates to like that one island so i don't even like
using the uk or great britain because i don't regard ireland as being part of britain whereas
i do feel we have a closer like affiliation with
obviously scottish people and welsh people because we've shared this island but i was backpacking
i mean backpacking for many many years me traveling all over the world and i never met anybody when i
was like where you're from nobody ever said the uk everybody would say oh scotland wales england
like everybody everybody even the Northern Irish that also in
Northern Ireland nobody like anybody really thinks they're from the UK it's just this like
random like amalgamation or something I don't know and it's important to us it's important
that you're English it's important you've got your own flag your own football team
do you know what i mean you're representing that's your creed that's your tribe
not the mad scots that
i just got to say howdy and nobody even has to ask like hey hey y'all everyone's just like oh
goddamn texans are here dude i've heard this though i've heard the people
in the south uh of america right like like south of tennessee onwards are the all everybody says
like hello to each other and all that right we'll talk about this the other day is that right all
right everybody's like how you doing are you all right like every like do you know what i mean
very very nice oh yeah oh yeah it's it's very much a thing um i don't want
to talk it up because you can still get fucked up out here but um it's definitely way different than
the east coast or like california like everyone's in a rush to get somewhere when i was living in
florida it like it it really broke me because i'd open the door for people you know like if you're
there's someone behind you and you just hold the door while they go into the restaurant on the east coast that does not exist people look at you
like they're they just stop and freeze and they they stare at you and they think like someone in
a wheelchair is coming out or something and and then nobody comes out you've been holding the
door for them and then they get annoyed that you wasted their time like it's just a the east coast
is fucking crazy like the lady at mcdonald's stopped me while i was ordering because i said please and she's like honey you're saying please why are
you doing that i'm just like what what the fuck uh it's just you get to a certain like i said
yesterday an imaginary line in the united states and that hospitality kind of disappears
bro thailand's like what you were talking about there thailand is so uber friendly it's beyond
belief like i'll be down the canal right having a joint and then just some random roll come past on
his bike and he'll smile he's like what he cap i'm like what he got like hello hello you know
uh i kind of every day i walk up my street because i walk a lot yeah i do like 10 to 15 kilometers a
day me i have to you know to keep me blood
circulation going and all that but i also enjoy it and i like getting out of the the condo you
know i come up the street and everybody and i mean from the garage to the little restaurant
to the noodle stall to the two shops to the motorbike fixing dude the tire dude everybody every day like how are you doing exactly exactly what
it's like you get up into new york and it's like heads down i'm in my own business don't talk to me
uh same thing with like on the train in boston and but you get into like my part of new mexico where
there's two square miles per person like that's a
real stat if you don't like raise your index finger on your steering wheel to wave at everybody as you
drive past them you're an asshole kind of thing dude ask matt what london's like matt will tell
you exactly what you're talking about right with like say like the east coast or up east
matt what's it like down london though bro how phenomenally well
known is it that every cunt's just like a cold callous cunt that doesn't run at all yeah so
the further up north you are like you'd be driving you'd be at a junction you know if you'll flash
each other out you'll be piercing you'll give each other plenty of room if they're not being dickheads
if you pass somebody and like there's
nobody else around in a corridor or in a shop you know you look up and smile or say hello sometimes
you leave and talk in london it's literally a rush to see who can shoulder barger the hardest first
to squeeze in to the transport link to get onto the london underground it is literally relentless when
you get on the traffic they will force the way out narrowly nearly smashing the side of you if
you've got a baby in the car no folks given cyclists waving in between kicking wing mirrors
off just because somebody beeps the horn just as the passing by um generally you'll buy something
in the shop uh i remain i was down there i was down uh
recently with me so we were watching the ufc and uh the o2 and just walking in the shops like people
don't even look at you um and in some cases you know like if you put your hand if you pay cash
and you put your you put the money in their hand like you'll put your hand out to to receive the
change and we'll just put the change on the counter now in the put your hand out to to receive the change and they'll just
put the change on the counter now in the grand scheme of things that's not a lot but that's
that to me that's just like rude and ignorant and to be honest as well the rubbish now oh my god
like london is not what it was uh in the 80s it's not you know now it's just it's it's everyone's
just so unbelievably rude honestly it's like you're invisible if you walk down
the street you're invisible and sometimes you're getting I might you
may have left you know when you talked about the flash and the lights yeah to
like let people you know if you had a junction or something like that you know you flash the lights like tell somebody that you know what i'm talking about
right you just mentioned it right so it's just a thing we do naturally i grew up and all i all i
knew was like that that's what you do to tell people like go ahead you flash the light and
it's like go on mate you go first right so i come to thailand did my driving test got a car me and
i got the car right and then it was like one of me first days out in the car right, and what did I do? I fucking flashed the lights right, to tell your man to go yeah, and me missus went mad, I was like what's wrong with you, oh in Thailand flashing your lights like means you want to have a fight, I was like nah shut up, she's like hey man what you're doing you're doing, I was like what, she's like he's going to get out of the car now and fucking, she was like, no, shut up. She's like, hey, man, what are you doing? I was like, what?
She's like, he's going to get out the car now and fucking...
She was like, drive, drive.
I'm like, I'm not driving.
What's wrong with you?
Like, I didn't know, you know?
I mean, that's obviously just a cultural thing, you know?
But flashing your lights out, he is a sign of aggression.
Wow.
Mad, isn't it?
It means you want to do
It's like
So they'll flash the lights to tell you they won't have a fight with you
But they'll bit the horn to tell you you can go
Like
Do you know what I mean? It's fucked up bro
Driving here is absolute carnage man
Fucking carnage
I had three accidents right
And guess how many were my fault all right
none none dude i was in the street i was in the three car pilot bro i was in a street car pilot
man and the cops he had no insurance and the cops let him walk away do you know that mental man
mental bro it's my driving here so
you know i'm in england it's the air person that gets insured right on the car yeah yeah
here it's just a vehicle like dude you're if you're in a bad crash you've got to basically
try to sue the other person's insurance company to get any like medical treatment
the cam here in thailand
in asia they care more about the vehicle right than they do the person do you know what i mean
it's the vehicle that's insured not the person that's right robo i've got to get off mate because
i'm near i'm gonna clock off a bit early i've got to pack me camp and get i'm talking about my boy uh wild comment tomorrow um just on the year 66 just at the outside of hexham i've got me tops and me uh
so i'm gonna go and get some steaks and some belly pork we've got the stew pot i've got loads
of firewood the head torches i'm just gonna stay up all night eating loads of food and i'm gonna
cook a stew slow stew over the fire with guinness veg you've got a camp
kitchen have you got a camp kitchen i've got i've got i've literally got all the gear i'm like bad
grills like literally sauce you know the pot though you're buried in the colds the pot we call
the camp kitchen well it's in australia they call it the camp kitchen i've not got one
it's like a tripod it's that's like an aluminium sort of like it's like
lightweight folds and you just dangle it over there you just dangle it over the fire like on
this tripod thing in this pot um so we'll be having a cookout on that that's what we'll be
doing we thought about the a66 last night actually because we were talking about like roads the mad
to drive uh and the a66 is one of those roads but i know i know exactly where we were talking about like roads the madder drive uh and the a66 is one
of those roads but i know i know exactly where you're talking about just outside of hexam that's
where we used to go down with the scouts and that and the cubs i that's well that's that's the area
where where we're going to go going to go wild camping so i'm uh i'm going to get me sorted
but otherwise how many days it's what's up up how many days oh just the one um i've
got to get back um it's just like just a one night thing normally i would do it like for a few but
this this this this occasion's just a one-nighter um yeah yeah just because we're doing the boy
just doing the boy yeah no he's basically because he's getting he's 16 this year
you say so any any any surrounded by women all the time which is good in some ways but in many
other ways it's like i need him he needs to have that masculinity around him you know so i'm going
with my two brothers um and a friend of mine so to him he's going camping with a bunch of grown-ups
where he's coming into his own and you
know the odd is coming out of his mouth now and again and he he's not afraid to take the pace and
he doesn't take things sensitively if you like wind him up a little bit so he's you know he's
starting to turn into romance or it's trying to do oh dude you know that we're massive proponents
about encouraging like a solid masculinity in in young men right you know this
way dude if a boy kind of put a tent up he kind of build a fire he kind of you know carve
up an animal like you've got to be you know people have got to be resilient in this day and age bro
like it's it's not like it was you know for the millennials and like that where they had a bit of
an easy ride right people start got to get real and like understand that like very important you get in touch with like the land and nature and earth right matt good on
your son anyway have a great journey mate i will i will do the thing is what i want to do what he
likes doing is is i give him loads of tasks to do and then i'll watch him do it and then if he does
it wrong i'll be like right okay we'll undo this this is the correct way to do it but i like to assess what his dexterity is like um just by looking at something to see if he
can actually do it himself just to try and work out where his head is you know what i mean so
even down to making fires collecting firewood understanding good wooden bad wood or if it's too
wet i'm like right so i want you to go off go and do this come back and then i'll show them it's like right this is bad stuff and this is good stuff and then
well and he goes out and correct and you know what he he absolutely loves it
have you taught them to make a bivvy have you taught them to make a bivvy or not natural bivvy
i haven't got i haven't got that far yet we just use our own devours um but we have looked at um
we've built um usually lined with tarps but like twigs in the trees with covers
rock seats um dug dig outs for toilets and stuff for the dunny he probably gets right in the rest
i love it it's it's it's actually a pleasure to watch him right he actually thrives in it
so anyway it was like uh i needed to get some time in so i thought right well i can get one
night in so right let's do it and at least he gets his time um so anyway right photos mate i'm expecting photos in the dms all right
all right will do take it easy have a good weekend everybody hey matt matt you don't have snakes
what's that five matt you don't have snakes either right i don't know i don't have what sorry
y'all don't have snakes either right i don't know i don't have what sorry
snakes snake you spoke now i didn't hear it they drove this out of
you drove the snakes out of ireland a long time ago right no no we not around there we do have adders
so the only poisonous um snakes that we have in the uk are adders but the populations are actually
quite low and most of them are actually further north towards the lake district and in the highlands but they're actually marked out
and reserved with specific types of grass and it's sort of well marked that there's adders but
where we're going there's nothing like that but i've never actually seen one but um i'd
shit my pants if i did because i know if one of those things bite me i'm pretty much if i don't
get to the hospital in 90 minutes but yeah the only the only threat you've got the only threat you've got really would be badgers or
foxes right pretty much but all right anyway i'm gonna get off enjoy your weekend everybody
good chat there five nice to talk to you man thanks matt yeah why dude i come back and bitcoin's
pumping what's going on i'll tell you what he's a
great guy Matt like I've got a lot of time and a lot I mean it's not just because he's from
me home on hometown but how much is that like you randomly meet someone in crypto that's from like
your actual like little city like in the North East of England and not just that you know like
his village in my village like they share the same
senior school the same high school because the little villages in the city on the it was a town
then board each other so mine was called castle town and his was called hilton castle and we were
always at war like you can imagine like you know glass uh c Celtic Rangers or you know Real Madrid Athletic
or Madrid or whatever you whatever like rivalry like we were like even though everybody went to
school when school would finish everybody would fight each other from the two different places
and it was there was actually based around a really like ancient historical castle from way
back in the day way the fact the way before America
was even a thing I think the castle's probably three or two hundred three
hundred a day if you look it's called a I don't have you in front of a computer
but you'll be able to see it looks like greyskull you know of Heyman greyskull
castle it's called Hilton with a Y Hilton castle in a sunderland so you'll be
able to see it it's uh i think they tried to
renovate it but it's like proper haunted with ghosts and everything you know but it would be
like it would be in the no man's land and it was it was more on their land so like they were the
people who were related to the lord and we were all the peasants in the next village down so this
is why we've like fought for like it hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years
probably like at least about 300 400 a day minimum lord hilton i think he was called
they are historical lesson for you do you know do you know the oldest church in england is in my city
or not the oldest uh is that chuck off there so he's giving us some emojis i don't know if he he was bouncing but the oldest church in england is in uh sutherland it's called saint peter's
uh i think it dates back to like 400 and something ad it's not bad right
i think it's hilarious that london has like a furniture store that's older than america
because those that those like riots you had they almost burned it down and i was like that's right built for 1776 that's absolutely
insane that's right i the furniture store during the riots i spot on made a very very
famous i mean it did essentially get burnt down but they were able to keep like a lot
of it uh mate i went to australia and i am an architectural fanatic right i love buildings and all forms i love all
forms of like stonework and craft work anything that's like unusual not just the standard that
you'd see in like say new york or something right and i was like going around melbourne and it's like
get the make this song and dance like uh the melbourne gold uh gold depository
right and they're like oh this is like this is gold this dates back to 1812 and i'm like bro me
me great grandfather dates back to 1812 what you're talking about like you're just going like
1812 and the grand scheme like london was metropolis by 1812, what you talking about, you stupid cunt?
Like, the Victorian era and the fucking Industrial Revolution was in, like, full swing, like,
American and Australia, it's mad how yous have got, like, a very, very, very shallow history,
such rich culture, it's like, I cannot take anything away from you, but see and got nothing old old like you come to europe
we got all right asia is the same right across europe the middle east into uh asia
it's all old as right even some in africa obviously america
i'm uh my ranch is like 40 miles from uh el moro or inscription rock and that's
where the where that was uh indians before indians had tribes and so there's still a lot
of really old in america but it's definitely not american oh yeah the native american stuff why
that stuff goes back like hundreds and hundreds of years right oh obviously of course
stuff goes back like hundreds and hundreds of years right oh obviously of course
uh i actually find a lot of anasazi pottery shards on my land um littered about i don't
find arrowheads because there's not flint i can find a lot more arrowheads here in texas but uh
it's it's everywhere out here and then you get on the red and civil war stuff more than anything on the East Coast.
You know, red eyes right into that shit. You're talking his language right there.
Oh, dude, my dad was a history teacher slash geologist for the last part of his life.
And we would go out and constantly look at rocks and dumb shit. yeah I'm particularly interested in
the Civil War
time period
have I shown you the fucking crazy shit I have
you've shown me
some of the pottery
the Civil War shit I have
I inherited some stuff out of
a family member, a really really old
family member in Shreveport, Louisiana.
I have a fucking Confederate saber, like a real one.
That's dope.
The handle's rotten away because it was wood, but it's got some, you know, rust, of course, because it's damn near 200 years old.
But it's fucking cool.
I hung it up next to my zulu spear
do you know what's mad do you wait a minute can i ask us a question you both went to school right
i mean you know you probably maybe went to university as well whatever but
american history right so i've heard that american history can be
right in american schools it's like a lot of countries i mean they do it in thailand it's
terrible to the college level um it depends on your teacher so uh they were doing this thing i
didn't realize that the vast majority of americans don't even realize that the us went to war with
britain twice not once
you cover lots of people like but you're like in third grade and you cover like a really basic
chapter of it and they're like let's move on and then we cover a lot of like world history too you
know each each grade you you cover a different section of history but it's very watered down
very watered down but then you know you know, you get into like college
level. I took Texas history, one of my first prerequisites. And this doctor would make
you handwrite like fucking 12 pages of notes every lecture on Texas alone. And I know so
much about Texas now. It's fucking crazy. But it's just, it depends on the teacher.
Like my dad was a very involved history teacher
he was like one of those guys that won my teacher of the year and so he would make kids get out and
learn shit but some of those teachers don't give a fuck they're usually like your football coach as
well and that's what they're really there for so five on it i don't know if you know this i've
obviously talked about it on previous spaces well the people but uh do you know i wrote a book uh basically
like uh so i wrote a student book and then obviously like a teacher book as well like a
lesson plan book i designed the powerpoints but i essentially wrote my own full like college high
school textbook for the sats and one of the things i did is i wanted to like make the book different to others
i wanted to like tell kids the truth and not the bullshit and i also accompanied it with like a
six test manual as well where all the references of like the teachings in one book refer to the
tests in in the other book the test manual was again a separate book but i basically timelined the entire like american history in bullet points all the way
through from like i mean dude it took me i was full time took me about four and a half months
to write the book uh it's like 260 odd pages or something i can send you a copy to look at
but uh the like the entire start of american like history civilization uh is all
documented in there like in in just nice little neat bullet points that i could like give the
kids like references to i mean that took a long time but i'm so glad i sent a red eye my library
red eye did you look at the library the other day or not i bet you haven't looked at it no no i haven't had a chance bro you know there's like probably 300 like i said 340 350 books in
there and that's just my american history folder like that's that's the probably one of the biggest
collections of american history books that you're going to find online anywhere like i just donated
all my parents and grandparents fiction books that i inherited and it was like 600 books and i still kept all the historical
non-fiction and i got so much i love them mate i would never ever let one of them ever go anywhere
yeah i just don't give a damn about like vince flynn and all those stupid you know fake
no that's bullshit.
We had this conversation with Red Eye.
Actually, we had the fiction nonfiction convo last week.
Didn't we, Red Eye, remember?
Purely just had this convo.
Dude, I'm all about like nonfiction.
There's just too much, too much non,
like real information out there to ever
be done with it.
So, yeah.
And real stuff interests me more than
fake stuff. I've been getting way into
the local books, like Robbo's talking about.
I found a lady that wrote
the history of my county all the way back to
the 1800s and shit, and I've been trying to find that
stuff. Dude, there was
apparently, you know know in doing some
of my research there's a the first ever romanticization of uh the ku klux klan in a novel
like in a literary work was from a woman woman writing under the pen name of a man from my county,
which I found really interesting.
I think there's only 500 or 1,000 of them produced.
There's maybe a dozen or so that are still in existence.
And as far as I can tell, there is...
Yeah.
This shit gets expensive.
I mean, rare books get expensive as fuck.
Oh, yeah.
My grandma had a crazy library like that, and I kept a lot.
Like, I have some old original Hobbit and Similarian and stuff.
Like, really old.
Robo, you got in the uh you a collector of any antiquarian items did he say did he say the simmerillion there i'm just i'm busy in the dms i'm just about to send five
on at the link did he say the simmerillion there right yeah yeah i got probably one of the christopher heart bounds not original it's old old
nice nice nice nice i mean i love like proper
tolkien proper fanboys you know like real tolkien fanboys like because you know tolkien's a personal
hero of mine right like really i'm not a fanboy at any sense in that that way i liked
hunter s thompson a lot more than talking yeah yeah but what's what's my job well we're going
to talk about that for in a minute right but what's my job my job is basically like as to
be a linguistic yeah you know exactly colton was the best nobody you know nobody's came since talking that even can be uh
talked about in that degree do you know this red eye like as a as a linguist talk like nobody has
ever surpassed him since he passed away isn't that crazy that like this guy like from all those years
ago like that was writing in like the 20s 30s 40s like the created languages that
nobody's even come close like he was like fluent in like about nine languages uh he ended up being
like uh you know it was literally like one of the best professors in the world in his time
a phenomenon i think you know these phenomenons
a phenomenon i think you know these phenomenons
phenom is it you see in america phenom by the way five on it i just sent you the library bro
yeah i've already had i think i just i just looked at it you would be surprised i worked
as a designer for my uncle's think tank in dc and so you would love some of the the nato journals
on terrorism that i helped do the covers for like proper that my uncle was one of the guys that tried to warn america about 9-11
and had to speak on the commission and whatnot and uh he wrote a lot of books on bin laden before
9-11 and all of that have you read any so i'm a big fan and i'm not saying i'm a big big fan i'm just saying i'm a big fan of
reading stuff that you know uh how come i say this might have been tarnished by history is that is
that for one of the better words yeah he who he who wins the war writes the history you know exactly
so i mean obviously uh i've read things like the communist manifesto uh mein kampf uh the critique of pure reason like
and then a lot of other things as well you know but like i feel these things whether people think
they're right or wrong they still enhance you you're never gonna read something in your iq
go down that's the quote you know those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
correct mate it's exactly like what i like to say about traveling you know
uh the the the world the world is but a book
is just travel is devoid of prejudice uh if you live in your little corner
of the world forever you're you're doomed you know you were talking about uh hundress thompson
it's quite interesting because uh different writers are known for different i'm coughing
sorry different writers are known for different things right so uh take like hemingway for example right i don't know if he's like or dislike i mean whatever
but hemingway like became known as like the master of the simple sentence so like a simple sentence
is basically a maximum of uh two subjects and two verbs before you'd have to you know create
the biggest sentence by using uh different clauses etc so a simple sentence is essentially one clause right and he was the master at the simple sentence dickens was actually known
as the pioneer in his day back in the 1860s whatever he was known as the pioneer of the
complex sentence different artists uh hunter s thompson pioneering some complex sentences right now oh no i know where he's going
because i've read so much thompson that i ramble like him when i write well i don't know if you
know exactly where i'm going robo i just sent you a the um uh senpai is out here uh putting out some complex sentences again oh dude that dude is nowhere near
thompson he's uh he's just that guy like that started the coney foundation and then was naked
in the street one day screaming so you know what a complex sentence is or not red eye
no it's not what you're thinking okay so in english in in english uh what we call standard
english conventions so there are a set of rules as to what you can and can't do uh imagine like
the lines on a football field right the white lines on a football pitch or soccer pitch they
tell you what you can and can't do and where you can do it right you know throw-ins penalty kicks
etc etc you know gold paper box
ah okay that's all like the kind of standard english conventions are right they're like the
rules and regulations of the language right now you can talk about things like the oxford comma
or whatever but there's things that are not in contention things that are not in contention are
what we call sentence types and particularly sentence boundaries right and the
limits of what can be done so there are essentially four different types of sentence in english
a simple sentence a compound sentence a complex sentence and a compound complex sentence
and they're structured in very very specific ways ways. And it's actually like, there's a mathematical formula, right?
So when I said a complex sentence earlier about Dickens,
you probably meant like a sentence that's really intricate.
Yeah, is that what you thought I meant, right?
Rather than it be a grammatical term for the boundary.
No, but I had to do college English where we had to figure out the right place to put the double commas and shit.
So it's really easy. It's really, really easy. Like I wrote a fucking massive fucking lengthy
document, man, like making like sentences, making English sentences easy. And it's not
that difficult to understand. Like you've got a simple sentence, right? One sentence,
which is one single clause, yeah?
No punctuation in it, unless it's commas separating like items, right?
Rather than clauses, yeah?
Because we use commas, you know, I like tea, coffee, and sprite.
I'm using commas, right? It's a short, simple sentence.
Minimum requirement for a simple sentence is a subject and a verb.
You know, I like apples.
Maximum for a simple sentence would be two subjects, two verbs.
John and Mary went to the party and danced all night.
Went and danced.
John and Mary, two subjects, two verbs.
You want to get any bigger ideas than that, you've got to create a compound.
There are basically three ways to create a compound sentence uh so it's you take a simple sentence which is an independent clause on its
own on its own it's the definition of a clause is a subject and a verb and a complete thought
right what do i mean by a complete thought uh if i won the lottery isn't a complete thought
uh while i was cooking dinner last night isn't a complete thought, right?
Because I start with words like if and when, blah, blah, blah.
So you'll take a simple sentence, which is your clause,
and then you'll join two of them together,
and you can do it in one of, like, three ways, right?
You can join it with a comma and a coordinating conjunction,
which are known as the fanboys.
So there's seven of them, right?
Fan boys, for and no, but or yet and so.
So, you know, I'm from England, but I live in Thailand, for example, right?
That's a compound sentence, yeah?
I love watching football, but i don't like playing it
that that's an example of a compound sentence so you've got like i say for and no but or yet and so
they'll connect it if you're a clever writer and you don't want to use one of those words you can
just use a semicolon so no comma no coordinating conjunction no fanboy you just put a semicolon
an example would be uh a duck's quack echoes semicolon no one knows why so i don't have to
put like a particular conjunction relationship between them you know like a contrast or this or
that they're almost like follow-on statements but i don't have to connect them so i can use a semicolon the other way is to use a conjunctive
adverb and you've got to use a semicolon you can replace it from full stop if you want but
good writers always use the semicolon on the can every now and then it's a independent clause
semicolon your conjunctive adverb which are words like therefore however consequently furthermore
like all those words yeah and then after the conjunctive adverb you've got to have a comma
and then on the end it's an independent clause which again has got to have a subject verb and
a complete thought contained within the clause so it's independent the formula independent clause comma fanboy and then your independent clause
independent clause semicolon independent clause independent clause semicolon conjunct of adverb
comma independent clause they're the three formulas for compound sentences and then this is where
complex comes in because complex start with all the words
that leave an incomplete thought so this is where subordination and coordination between sentences
come in if i won the lottery i would buy a ferrari now you've got a complete thought right
before i said if i won the lottery it's not a complete thought because it leaves you asking
questions when i was a kid
well what happened when you were a kid it leaves asking questions you know uh after i left the
cinema well what happened after you left the cinema you know these are all incomplete thoughts so
they're called dependent clauses as opposed to independent and they use a separate different
conjunction normal people like me proper teachers when we
teach these kids which call them dependent markers because they call them like subordinating
conjunctions or dependent conjunctions and it's really easy just to say dependent marker
like in a classroom we call it a dm dependent marker if when while since because although all them words that like if you put them in front of like
uh you know a group of words subject a verb uh it'll not give you a complete thought it'll always
need another thought it'll always need an independent clause to attach it to that one
so essentially it's quite easy with complex there's only two formulas this is what diggans pioneered this is what he's famous for there's two structures and you can vary them all the time so
it looks like a different sentence type you can put the con the dependent marker at the beginning
so you can start a sentence with because as since while when whichever right you can put them at the
beginning and then you give your thought but it's an incomplete
thought because it starts with a dependent marker then you must have a comma to separate what comes
next so if i won the lottery comma i will buy a ferrari when i was a kid comma i loved watching
he-man do you know what i mean uh while i was cooking dinner last night comma someone
knocked at the door do you know what i mean so one's dependent on the other one and that's
basically the when you switch them the dependent market goes in the middle i would buy a ferrari
if i won the lottery you drop the comma that's basically the difference where the formula is
when that conjunction goes at the beginning or the dependent marker you need a comma when it
doesn't go at the beginning you didn't need a comma and this is what's really interesting right
and this is why i love this subject so much you get a compound complex and they start to
you up right unless you're someone like me who's pretty doing this like a thousand times
unless you're someone like me who's pretty done this like a thousand fucking times
the formulas i've just told you about i said you've got three different formulas for a compound
right three different formulas remember that right the comma the fanboy the semicolon on
a tone and the semicolon the conjunct of adverb like however and etc therefore
and then the comma right you've got them three formulas a compound complex sentence is just
one of those formulas one of those three with a dependent clause inserted into one of the three positions in each one of the three formulas giving you a total of
nine different formulas for a compound complex sentence if that makes sense
do you understand what i mean so you can put think about it right you've got these two sections of a
compound right and they're connected in the
middle and you can put a dependent clause you can put it in the beginning you can slice the compound
down the middle and stick it in the middle or you can put it on the end but you must wrap it all up
with the right punctuation uh give me i'll give you an example uh after the party finished june had a headache so paul cleaned up
did you just get that one or not right so i'll explain that one right so after that's your
dependent marker so that's your dependent clause right can't static if i just said to you guys
oh after the party had finished you're like what happened that rubble what
happened you know what i mean so after the party had finished comma because there's your dependent
so you're making a complex follow the rules when the dependent markers at the beginning there's
always a comma after the party finished comma june had a headache there's your independent clothes
finished comma june had a headache there's your independent clothes uh june had a headache comma
so there's your fan boy uh paul cleaned up and you can start to switch that around by saying
paul cleaned up after the party because june had a headache like you can start mixing up
after the party june had a headache so Paul cleaned up
Paul cleaned up Do you know what I mean? You can like literally mix it around I
Hope that explains sentences anyway, if you know what I mean, I probably went on a right route there like
Yeah, I was about to try to answer the back and you're like
Dude Robo I felt like it was in
your classroom there for sure absolutely but i did learn do you know guys the arnie formulas
honestly it's like a number thing i'll uh i'll send you my little thing that i like teach the
kids like the kids get none of this from none of the teachers over here man i'm going clue man
the proper scooby when i came here all i did was read books and for years and years and years like when i stopped me training is when me
real training began like i was like i know like i'll tell you what happened to me i you know i
had an epiphany here's a story for you so i had good training right i thought i was ready and i
came here and there's many things you've got to get used to you know you've got to be getting
used to the culture the climate like full time you know being in a shirt
and tie in a classroom in Thailand which is not the best some classrooms don't have air corn blah
blah blah but you'll deal with like these kinds of things but knowledge is a different thing
and then I got a I was here I moved here in the July and by the christmas i was sick so i quit my job and come to bangkok
right i was up north coming to bangkok because my girlfriend was here and and i was traveling
down like every weekend and i was like this like i just quit my job and moved down yeah
and then i was here a few months got a job uh and then i decided to get a saturday job to bring in more money
and i was with some i got the job and i was with some rig gangsters right some proper old school
like people have been here like 12 15 20 years man prop i was really lucky young in me life here to
get in with these people and we just went for dinner one day man and anthony this guy was talking
i mean you'd look at him and you'd be like
yeah him you know like massive like tall guy but like 120 kilograms no teeth bald as folk like
mad you know but he just he could just talk and blew your mind like he was a top level ielts
teacher his main job was working for ielts uh idEP, really well paid, like this guy, you know, I wanted for
nothing, like, but I just was fascinated with his knowledge, and I just sat there, and I was like,
Robbo, you absolutely no fuck all, like, and I'd just done me training, and got me a qualification
to me, like, I'd done the whole thing, fucking nearly two years, and I just, like, sat there,
and I'm like, wow, you've got somewhere to go and then from then on i just never ever stopped reading i've got like my library's got like 30 000 documents
in my life my teaching library 30 000 documents in there you know on everything i grabbed everything
from every website i could everywhere at every level so how did all of that reading and knowledge prepare you for seeing uh katy perry
get launched into space and
make space how did that inform your take on this?
Oh, dude,
I don't know what to say, like,
without probably getting in trouble because it's recorded.
What would Charles Dickinson say?
So, can I say something?
Can I say something really?
Right, okay. So,
if that thing
had blown up on something on re-entry, I don't think there would have been too many books of condolences around the world. I don't know about you, if that had blown up, it probably wouldn't be the worst thing to happen this year. That's all I'll say.
Jeff Bezos would probably get in some trouble dude didn't he think he was like your man
richards off the fantastic four something didn't he get run out with his suit on and all when he
fell over the player like what was he doing in one of them suits i mean you'd have had elon in
his tech support t-shirt wouldn't you if it was elon you know did you see him he had the suit he was in there changing rooms as well the dirty little bastard gail king
maybe he was jealous that because i don't think he's gone up into space yet has he
or like indoor atmosphere yeah he did the first one he did the first one yeah yeah he did he did
the last one actually the one before this yeah five I can easily see those come back in or launch if it's a clear day from where I'm sitting right now.
So what's your take on 2025 so far? So what's been your, maybe, like, your favourite moment so far,
or the most unexpected moment thus far thus far what's been your favorite
i'm in it for the slow burn and i'm really ready for world war three
hmm it's a tough one
so i've got i've got like i've got like a thing that's more than one because it's been a continuous
thing but yeah can't count that one my favorite moment of the year so far was when baron stood
up in the stadium when his dad was down me getting signed the executive orders and he says i've got
a son you know he's pretty tall he's got a balance down somebody puts his he's like wwf
ww he puts his fucking hand to his ear like and
he's just nodding at the crowd like yeah yeah i love that image me like it makes me
laugh my head off but uh do you know what i love do you know will in the oval office
who keeps handing trump all these things and he's like what's this will well mr president
all these things and he's like what's this will well mr president and then we'll just like
shits on people does you know that law firm that tried to lock you up in three states well
i love those executive orders getting handed over and signed man he's hilarious and he
i can't trump has just made my year like i don't know what it is i'm obsessed with a man
he's this is i didn't understand the hate right like this is how you can tell it's seriously
manufactured like like look at me i'm not american shouldn't really give a i am british and yeah we
have our resolvers had a bit of an affinity with america you know we fought in the wars and share the language etc blah blah blah right bit of culture but very distinct you know
very very distinct it's not like where we were talking about like say the english and the scots
where we're you know when we're at home we're totally like separate but we you know we have
this like interaction kind of thing right closer interaction like why should i
give a at all right for one uh but also i've traveled the world i've met every kind of
nationality you can imagine i've been in so many different situations with rich with poor
oh i've seen it all i've seen the depravity of life like if i could write a book on it right
life like if i could write a book on it right and here's this guy and the spewing all his evil hate
and these stuck they've been throwing this at them for like nearly 10 years now
none of this stuck right right honestly i don't these people must be mentally ill these proper
trump haters you've got to be mentally ill for to have gone to that
level of degree of madness that's a ninth ninth circle of hell that those people are living in
right if you think trump is hitler honestly i've never heard anything like a guy's act
because who came out and called him hitler the other day uh who was slugging off bill moore
uh larry king right was it larry king that came out the other day uh who was slagging off bill maher uh larry king right
was it larry king that came out the other day uh larry david the guy who made i got someone walking in the door uh i gotta go though thanks man i like right okay larry david i need where he's
maybe we're gonna wind down did you see that red eye or not no i didn't oh he went off it about
bill maher going to meet hitler so uh have you seen what bill maher and
morgan's just done on their podcast or not on bill maher's podcast i saw that they were
i saw like clips of it uh i also saw bill maher did one with charlie kirk i didn't yeah he did i yeah yeah he did i charlie kirk's been reaching out when he did the one with gavin newsom as well didn't he
oh no i didn't hear about that one that's cool what that was weeks ago oh bro you know i think
it was like i think it was like gavin newsom's like second or third guest oh yeah yeah uh you
know he had bannon on as well right baron bannon steve bannon you know the war room bannon yeah yeah
from sex expert advisor he had him on and all like last week or the week before
uh the newsome thing there's a whole story behind the newsome thing you know
you know do you know the democratic party are planning to try to cut his throat not quite
do you know the democratic party a planet had tried to cut his throat
literally but figuratively uh no for what he wants to be the moderate so he can run in 2028
oh yeah have you not seen him denouncing so you know he was on bill maher don't you
did you see him on bill maher when bill maher said what about accusations that you've been
the poster boy for the walk progressive left oh mate you know me i'm all over the politics man
they want he he is planning on running in 2028 100 why do you think he's changing his tune
i mean obviously the trump government coming in has made it made him want
to be a little bit more moderate obviously needs a lot of federal funding as well uh but you know
gavin newsom's come out on a lot of issues saying like women's men shouldn't be in women's changing
rooms and gavin newsom's changed his tune pretty quick you know that's why he's called out oh dude
there's loads of going on the democratic party are in shambles right now man
there's loads of going on with uh david hogg you know the dnc vice chair the election that just
happened like a few weeks ago when he got uh brought up as vice chair uh he was in trouble
yeah we were talking to brady about this yesterday they got the canadian elections going on right now
have you not seen the tweet
in the nest uh also i realized it is uh the nest is only broken for me on desktop it works perfectly
fine on mobile oh dude i didn't post it somebody oh no no dude it's there go and look at the
i can't like read and scroll through the nest on, it's there. Go and look at the... I'm saying I can't
read and scroll through the nest
on desktop. It's broken.
Oh, you're on desktop now, are you?
Yeah, yeah.
I'll send you.
Okay, can I send you this then?
DM you now.
Right, check your DMs.
I'll keep quiet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep. I remember seeing this the polymarker prediction
is car is carney uh more liberal or is he conservative dude it's not about that look at that collection of states the blue states right so you know what's going to happen i mean well you can see in the
tweet right it will signal the end of the canadian confederation right they'll join america bro they'll
join america they'll join america no no what is the canadian confederation what does that mean
what does that mean it's a confederation of their states that's what the country is
it's a confederation of their states that's what the country is
oh okay he's just talking about you know kind of you know kind of the works like you do but
they've got like they've actually the states have got quite a high degree of uh like economy on some
their provinces yeah like provinces yeah okay uh okay so you're saying the blue ones are the ones that want to leave or the red ones are
the ones that-
The will, because they've got loads of shit.
They've got loads of resources.
They've got fucking great economies.
But wait, which one are the ones that would want to leave?
The red or the blue ones?
The blue.
The blue ones to blue the blue ones okay all right do you know like
you know you say them right in the center do you know how much like energy and that they're
supplied to like uh michigan and like how much resources like they dude trust me you know so
you know one of the governors has already uh adamating wakani giving him a massive huge list
of demands and said she's going to put a referendum up if he doesn't agree to everything and they're
never going to regret everything there are separate estates in canada right now if you
didn't know about this bro serious like it's really serious mind like the governor's like
threatened outright proper publicly uh i forgot which her status from. She's like literally gone to war.
It seems like a
really messy
situation to
move land
and services. Because now
I mean
are they going to conform
to all of our shit? I mean mean i imagine they pay taxes but like
are we gonna extend all of our you know public services and all the way up through there and
well they've already got free health care haven't they dude you know they've got very
those particular have got very uh selfsufficient state economies and actually have an
like a surplus that goes to support other states so you know states like british columbia and that
are proper like like full-on uh subsidized and that right
um wait which ones say british columbia on the west coast on the left hand side right
yeah right uh that's quite heavily subsidized you know
so the some of the others are bro like that's weird the canadian economy like how it works with ontario quebec etc how like other like some
states like literally supply like free fuel and that the other states
i know bc is where they grow a lot of weed uh i think that's where they've got decent some
that's where brady's from they're all two stones man to do anything
for with their life man that's why so do do you know sorry i couldn't help that
uh you've heard of bc piece he put before right oh yeah
being famous all over the world that man why the grow good uh hops up there but made a red eye i'm
gonna have to wind this down brother i've uh i'm just a while you know the song don't you i smoke
two joints in the morning so i'll do joints at night you know the drill. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude, been good chatting with you.
It'll probably be a fairly light day for me, but it's beautiful here. So hopefully I'll catch some time outside before the sun goes down.
Shame we got rugged on that space earlier, but never mind.
Things happen.
Yeah, it's all good.
Yeah.
And on that note, we'll be catching up on the next
show people over and out wherever you are in the world listen on the replay as well
take care good night and god bless from bangkok see you in a bit
