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RAC FM Welcomes Jake Da Shaman back to the Studio 🎙️🦝🧐
Recorded: March 17, 2025 Duration: 2:27:01Space Recording
Short Summary
Jake discusses the launch of the Shaman token, emphasizing its innovative approach to funding art therapy for traumatized children and setting a new standard for celebrity involvement in crypto. The token's deployment on the Infinion blockchain and its bridging from Solana highlight technical integrations. These developments reflect broader trends of public figures entering the crypto space and using digital assets for social impact.
Full Transcription
Okay, okay, here we go, GM Oakey, oh good afternoon, it should be good afternoon where you are, right, I think.
I, unless you're on the other side of the equator or some shit like that.
Uh, but yeah, let's get the people in, let's kick this shit off. Holy fuck, this should be so good.
I did not have heard the Jake interviews before, but we've interviewed him twice, so we interviewed him not long after he came out from prison.
And then, like I just said on the previous space, we interviewed him.
On the day that Julian Assange agreed to the, what are you agreed to do with the Americans,
what did you agree to do again?
Oogie, we're going to have a close mic for the beginning.
I mean, look, so now bring you in at the beginning, but you're going to have to jump out
because we're lined up for this one.
But while we're filling up the room, there you go, matey.
You know these interviews we normally have a bit of a close mic.
Oogie, you know the score, don't you?
Still, as a speaker anyway, you know what I mean?
Just let us work the magic, no.
Have you heard them before, Opie, or not?
Yeah, yeah, no worries, no worries.
I just wanted to pop in real quick with you.
But, yeah, I did.
I think I may have listened to the first one whenever he had just gotten out.
That's the one I listened for.
So it's good.
I'm excited.
Dude, that was, that was madness.
That's all.
You know, that was like 2 a.m. for me or something.
And we went there, we went a couple hours or something, didn't we?
But we just started like opening up the mic.
And there was like loads of people that just had joined that wanted to call.
I mean, we did like a 700 live listeners or something like that.
Shout out this lady eukes has come back in the room, Katie Frost.
Shout out Katie Mind, I've seen you kicking around.
We appreciate the listens, like we're just, you know, Rack FM, we just try to put out cool content, different kinds of interviews.
It's Paddy's Day and Jake's, you know,
He's got a tinge irish in him.
And he's probably a few deep by now, known him.
But yeah, B-B-B-Bans, what's she doing?
Did B-Ban say she was going out to get another container or something?
She was on the treasure hunt, isn't she?
I'm not even sure. I haven't talked to her today.
Oh, mate, she's been, I've been saying it, she's been killing it in the trailer business, you know?
That I have heard, yeah, her and Andrew were talking and it was, uh, they're doing well.
They got a, I think they got a good one just last weekend or something like that,
or a weekend before they said they had stopped and saw me.
Either did, mate, I think, wait a minute, I'll have to, uh, DM, Jake, here, wait a minute.
There you go.
Oh, he's, uh, he's good crack, like, he's good crack.
Do you know what?
We were, me and B bands were really keen.
So when would it have been? It was August, so it would have been August 20, 23, just after he'd come out. And he'd been on a couple of spaces and I've been following him and like all the time since way back before the election actually before J6. And following this dude. And...
What struck me the most, right, is that on the TV,
you only seen him like, get pausing for like when people
would take like selfies and this and this, right?
And, you know, obviously he got arrested quite quickly
full stories on the podcast.
I'll put them in the nest when B-Bans comes in
to help support me and then we get jigging
and we get the interview off.
But what struck me the most about this guy was how bloody, articulate like this young man is.
Like, he is just phenomenal.
He's got a very high IQ.
He's exceptionally like intelligent in the different like intelligent classes.
Like extra personal, intrapersonal like intelligence is phenomenal.
Do you know what I mean?
And he's just got a kind of like based, every time I raise something with him.
And we've had a lot of, how long we talk for now?
Like nearly five hours, five and a half hours, we've talked to him, right?
Nearly everything I've raised,
He's either agreed or disagreed, but he's brought in like shit that I wasn't thinking about or do you know what I mean?
You're not like, okay, I didn't fucking look at a flat like perspective.
And he's a cat. He's a cat this kid like and it's weird, isn't it?
Like, I don't know, out of all the J6s, right, who do you probably remember the most?
So there was like a couple of dudes being got like one J6 that got shot didn't he the other month.
uh they played that tape i think it was maybe in november he was shot wasn't it then they played the tape in like january or whatever like there's been a couple of outspoken ones that dude who was there rowing with their maize today
That was a right load of shit.
I don't know if anybody's saying that.
Twitter blew up.
They did Twitter spaces, right?
With their Patriot and May's Love, right?
The fuck and hell what was all on about.
They were having spaces at the same time, fucking shit talking each other,
and they had their own little echo chambers in.
And our Finn, he's Finn.
Finn, your man's not here yet.
But yeah, they get back to the main point.
Because we're, you know, we've got a freestyleist until he comes in.
We know Twitter Spaces as being down, but yeah, I didn't think in all the time I've been doing Twitter Spaces since October 2021, right?
So October this year, it'll be like four years of Twitter Spaces, never did Clubhouse, just straight on Twitter Spaces.
I didn't think I've ever interviewed someone as articulate as Jack, and that's just a fact, absolute fact.
I don't know what else I say about the kid.
do you know what i mean i don't know him other than just speaking them and he can i don't know
not change your mind on shit but he can just add like a lot of depth to a conversation
hello finn mate are you still working on your music i'm sure if fin was dying to come in but he's
like are you getting rugged i hope he didn't think it was arizona time you know i
fucking told him it was a s t said like one p m asd anyway okey how you doing kidda
while we get while we get fucking your man in
Doing good, doing good, just working.
Got a lot of orders and shit I got to do.
You're flying or not?
No, man, flight logs.
You know how that goes.
I got to step down on that speaker, though.
I got some shit I got to do real quick.
I'll be listening.
Ne worries, bro, take care.
I wonder what's happening to Baybans
because she's been excited about this all week.
Like, I think we, uh, what is it Monday today?
We sorted it out with, uh, jakey boy on, uh,
Thursday was it? Hello Finn, GM fan.
You knew I was freestyling, didn't you?
No bay bands.
What are you, uh, what are you guys doing?
How's it going?
Not bad, mate, not bad.
I, uh, I took a run up to sending you that DM about the latest track, you know?
I didn't really want to like, it be like that bit shit, but you took it quite well and I was really happy that you did.
Well, sometimes I have to test you as well, and I have to record just some straight up garbage and then see if you're still like, oh, yeah, this is good.
This is good.
Because if you would have said that was good, I would have, you would never see me again.
I would have completely blocked you on all accounts, ghosted, you left the Rack FM group chat.
It wouldn't have been pretty.
So luckily, for all of us and for all involved, you did pass the test.
And you were like, well, that is...
not good.
Back to the drawing board.
And I was like, yes, it was not good.
It hurts me to record such garbage,
but sometimes it's necessary, you know?
I'm glad I passed the test.
I'm so happy.
And you know something, mate?
The frequency just fuck with me vibe.
And I was like, why is Finn fucking with my vibe?
Like, I've lined this up.
I've had like two joints and a little cheeky pipe.
And then I'm playing it for the first time.
And he's like, fucking up me,
boss.
I'm like, I'm not happy about this situation.
Yeah, it's hard to like record something purposefully.
I don't know how to say this.
It's hard to be bad on purpose, but not be like too bad to where he's like,
oh, obviously you're taking the piss.
But like make it good enough, you know, but like.
not good. And so I think I walked that line there pretty good with the with what what we did.
I've also deleted it from every known Google Drive folder. So is gone, but is there a
particular reason why you're working on I mean, because I know you've just rectified these like
you've just upgraded, sorry, these beats from the were from a while ago, the two that like we selected, right?
So you've vamp them, you've revamped them dramatically.
Is it because you've just done it and it's in your head that you wanted to work on your tracks first before Ossinoma andoms two tracks for this coming EP?
Yeah, because with his, like, I don't have the machine session files and stuff,
so I can't, like, adjust the bass and adjust the snare and do all that shit.
So I figured mine were going to take the most work because they weren't like really finished beats.
They were finished enough to where I could start writing, but like I still had to go listen to them in the car,
listen to them with the sub, listen to them on the other speakers, the monitors, make sure everything sounded proper.
uh and so that's why i ended up doing is going back and doing that and when i did that i was like
holy shit this one's got like way too much fucking base we're gonna like blow people's fucking speakers
And then the other one, it just, yeah, I don't know.
I think I was just high.
And I like started fucking with different sounds.
And I was like, you know what?
I vibe this way better.
So that's it just came out.
But yeah, I think they're definitely getting buttoned up now.
That one track, I think I'm going to record it one more time after I change a couple more things.
And then this, this next one.
I'm just finishing up here.
I'm going to try and record it today.
So we can see how garbage it is.
And then, yeah,
then I'll work on the Hassan beats.
Plus, his beats are so much better than mine.
I'm not a fucking...
Okay, well, wait a minute.
You know, listen, you know, there's a Hossie Nomenan track that's like going to be the record of the EP.
Look, look, let's not kid around, right?
Your beats are good.
You just said yourself like, hossie is like mad as, fuck, especially violins.
You know which track I'm talking about that air?
Was it 20 million or 30 million?
Which one is I keep forgetting?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, 30 mill, yeah, that shit's so good.
That's the track.
That's the end of an era of like what we saw with the EP4.
It's like the leisure suit barry of EP3, dude.
It's like the GM.
No, no, no, the GM, the cash of fucking EP2.
You know, the standout that everyone will remember.
Like, that'll be the gangster.
I'm telling you, I listen to the beep bro, like, every couple of days.
And I'm like,
This is just gonna be so gangster.
It's the most gangster bit.
It's such a good beat.
It's so good.
And yeah, I just, I wanted to leave those for last.
That way I could get all the garbage out of the way on my beats.
And then we can really sit down and focus on writing some good shit for his too.
Because yeah, they're just so much better than mine.
Like, I don't play instruments or anything.
Like, dude's fucking jamming violins and shit and like sequencing these dope drums.
It's, it's good.
I just, I really like it.
I saved the good shit for last and then I can just focus on writing.
I don't have to fuck with any of the beats.
I don't got to do any of that.
So yeah, we should be on track for April 20th, hopefully.
So you caught some of the GMC earlier.
Decent interview?
Okay, do you think?
Yeah, yeah, good shit.
It reminded me to go to Dowdow and check my GMC steak,
and I collected my dollar two in fucking rewards for the last like three months.
And, you know, we're good.
stake them away and forget them.
That is one of the communities, like whenever we drop music and shit, I always go in there
because they're always super receptive and they don't care that I like show my music in there and shit.
And there's just a good group of cats. It's like all of the good cats from the Terra era, I guess.
And yeah, they're good cats.
So look who's joined us. The sister that we missed her.
Hello, B-B-Bans, darling. Be-Ban's from the block. Welcome back.
Hello, good afternoon, good afternoon.
We're getting ghosted, darling.
Dude, that note is crazy.
That shit made me laugh so hard yesterday when I read that.
She's like, not only did I find all these dildos and shit, but check out this note.
Some junkie love shit.
I was like, damn, dude, he signed it, your husband.
Just in case that half a perk made you forget who the fuck I am.
I'm your husband.
And I hope you have a good morning.
Oh my God.
That's so funny.
I know I kept reading it over and over again and laughing.
Every time I read it, it just made me laugh harder.
I imagined what they were doing, what was happening at that moment and that note was written.
That's so good.
For people that don't know what the hell we're talking about,
because I think you only posted that in the in the Rack FM group chat, didn't you?
No, she put it in the space earlier.
She put it in the comments in the nest.
She put it in the nest earlier.
Oh god. That shit just had me die. Here's half a perk. Like, bro, you want me to have a good morning.
I'm going to need the other half of that fucking perk. This is bullshit.
And when you combine it with the other things she found in the container, you're like, oh.
Yeah. That's so good. Somebody's life just
put on hold.
People listening and they don't even know, like,
she fucking got a container and started
finding, like, boplugs and fucking
dildos and shit.
The storage wars, basically. Sometimes
you win the treasure, and sometimes that
treasure's just a box old dildos, you know?
And a note from
your husband to his wife.
About a half a perk you left
for her in the pill crusher.
Who snorting?
Perks. Also that that part got me because it's like the perks are the ones with the acetaminophen.
Like don't snort that baby. That's that's probably why they fucking lost their storage unit right there.
Can't be snorting that shit. It's terrible. Do you know what Baybans should do though?
She should put it in one of those like in boxes for the future that you bury what they call again the cap time capsules, right?
Yeah, the capsule. Just frame it and put it in and bury it for a fucking 20 years like a millennia.
What we were into.
Wait a minute.
A millennia. A millennia goes by, right?
And the open up this and they're like, what's a perk?
I put it in the nest, but I also put Finn's comments because I,
I screened out at our, like, our quick little DM about it,
where you're saying, bro, better cough up the other half of that perk if you want.
Fuck, yeah. That shit had me die.
perks or i mean i don't know that that's just funny to me from from my background i find that super
amusing oh my gosh you know those oh sorry did you guys see oh you remember those
Oki, go ahead.
Okay, real quick.
Did you see Oki?
He was freaking battle.
He was in Canada battling for his fucking Pokemon cards.
They released like these 151 tens, right?
And then there was a fucking brawl at the fucking Costco in Canada.
And I was looking in the crowd to see him there fucking fighting.
There was a fucking brawling Costco.
What, they're...
Over Pokemon cards.
That's like the best part of it.
Old-ass adults, grown-ass men and women, probably.
Well, mostly men, I'm sure.
Rawling over Pokemon cards.
That's so good.
That's so good.
I was going to say earlier that half a perk thing reminds me of those old Looney Tunes where they're all starving and like they get a pee and Tom like cuts the pee into thirds so that each Jerry and like the dog like they all get a piece of the pee.
That's that shit reminds you know, we're just rationing at this point, baby. I'm down to the last perk. Here we go.
Okay, did you get your job broke? You can't say nothing. You can't come up here and say hi.
his shit's wired shut still he's on half a perk right now trying to record it's
he doesn't want to admit to anything does he because it's recorded it might be used in court
against him or some shit totally forgot this is because the shaman's not here and i wasn't thinking
oh my gosh where is he yeah you're gonna have to burn this space
If you know, shall what?
He's ghosting us for fun, no, isn't he?
Fuckin' out.
Okay, so if he costs us, we can change the name of the space.
Wait a minute though, he's never ghosted us before though, so that's an interesting point.
And he is a busy person.
He does loads of fucking mad shit, man.
He's got loads of fucking shit on the go.
It's Paddy's Day.
He has got a tad Irish and him.
You know what I mean?
He might be fucking four or five fucking with people.
He says he doesn't drink or.
Oh, that's right.
He's straight edge.
He's fine.
He gets high on frequencies, doesn't he?
And stones.
Yes, he takes the stones and...
Politics and crystals.
He pulls his crystals together.
Have you seen that comedian who carries rocks around?
Have he seen the comedian on like Kiltone who carries rocks a wreck?
What's his name again?
Cam something.
He's always got the rocks in his pocket.
fucking hilarious cam patterson i think i that's him rokey he's fucking brilliant isn't it
and he just pulls the rocks out and he's like hey this is a special one i just like out of
the film in my hand he's like i'm not retarded but i like rocks and then he pulls a rock out of
his pocket and kills the crowd of it was dope that shit is so good oh kill tony is exceptional
tony gets loads of shit like they're being gays fuck doesn't he
How much shit does it again?
We all need an umbrella, you know.
We all need a shield of some sort.
Holy shit, the episode, though, where they had Shane Gillis on his Trump,
and then your man on his Joe Biden, honestly,
fine, I couldn't stop.
I could not stop laughing at that shit, man.
Whatever you think about Shane Gillis being a sellout,
these funny guy, him, like,
and all that, anyway, I take,
it's very, very unlike him, like B-Bans, isn't it?
He was like, wait, we're gonna do, if we're gonna do, we'll do a party stay.
And I was like, right, okay, man.
Yeah, that's, you know, did you send him a message and remind him?
If I had to guess, I'd say one of you fuckers, one of you chuckle fucks got the time wrong, told him the wrong time.
That's my guess.
I'll just put that right there.
Not today, me, not me today.
This time it wasn't me.
So listen.
But you know, your little gross.
Listen to you, you little snitch.
Listen, listen.
Are we sending the Statue of Liberty back to France?
Yes or no?
Do you know what you should do?
If they want to come get it, we're not paying shipping on that bullshit.
If anything, I would just let all the tweakers come and dismantle it and fucking trade it in for fucking scrap.
At this point, might as well, that's what's going to happen to it eventually.
Shit.
You know what you should do?
So here's the thing though, like,
Go ahead. What should we do?
Now put it on the slowest, like barge.
Like, you know, them canal barges.
Just build, like, a canal barge or a rowboat or something
and make the French, like, road across the Atlantic.
Like, you should fucking torture them.
Like, she'll be like, well, come and take it down your fucking cells.
Like, and then just, like, ban them on the permits and that,
the shipping permits and like...
Then just sink it.
Sink it next to the Titanic.
The Houthis did it.
Sorry,
guys.
We tried to save it.
Damn Houthi pirates, man.
They got us.
Oh, you mean,
wait a minute.
You mean the titan?
We have a coral reef now.
Do you mean the Titanic or the Olympic?
Because we all know that the Titanic didn't sink.
We all know it was the Olympic.
We all know why.
And who died and who didn't?
And that's why the Federal Reserve Act was created the next year.
Brian, we're getting ghosted.
But GM, it's lovely to see you, brother.
What do you think?
I came up here to defend you, dude.
Like, I saw the DM that you posted.
Well, Jake, Jake.
Jake told you the time, he told you the day.
I saw the message.
This is the correct time and day.
It's just, you know, getting paddied up.
Getting pottied up.
Brian, do you think maybe ice grabbed him.
Maybe he's on his way to like some country he's never been to.
That'd be exciting.
Didn't he get expunged or whatever?
Pardoned?
Yeah, he's pardoned.
He's parted.
He's safe.
Safe as fuck.
He's good.
That's good.
Yeah.
But did he?
Did he, wait the minute, I don't know about this because he'd already been released.
Wasn't the pardons for the people who were still locked up, no?
I was a blanket for everybody who was involved.
I thought it was for the people who were in, like when he made the pardon.
Sure, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think he got rid of everybody.
Like everybody's can go.
See, there were some people like your man from Enrique, what's his name again?
You know, I'm talking about from the thingy pro boys.
Like he was doing like 20 odd years and shit.
Like there was people who had had long sentences that were being done for the violence on the cops.
Like they were doing some proper time.
All them got pardoned and I'm sure whether it was like...
I'm sure it wasn't like to get blank a pardon for all thousands of them.
I don't know.
I'll have to look.
Well, that's why Jake's supposed to be here, isn't he?
I mean, I'm surmising shit.
Brian, how do you feel about the French?
Oh, sorry?
Wanted to ask you a liberty?
Well, the French are like taking over Defi, dude.
I don't know about that.
Like, they're just every, every team, like, every other team I meet in Defi is French.
Yeah.
I have no idea what's what's going on about it, but it's like, Avese's French, there's like equalizer, like a whole bunch of French people all over the place.
Merkel, it's too much.
Pretty smart, you know, I'll give the French load.
Well, I give the French load of shit, right, because they're right arrogant cunts and they deserve it sometimes, but they are fucking clever.
I will say that about them.
Like my mate, Seber was a trader in Singapore.
Fucking, what a smart kid, man.
What a smart kid.
Like, unbelievable.
Like, they're a wily bunch, let's say, Brian.
Does anybody know about BitBoy's safety right now?
Apparently there's some felony warrants out for him?
For Bit Boy?
Dude, I feel bad for Bit Boy.
I met him in New York.
He's a hilarious dude.
He's just, I have a friend that is like a next, you know, wild guy.
And he just reminds me to the tea of Bit Boy.
It just like says shit to like get people, like get people riled up.
And then he just got like this.
chaotic energy about him.
Like everything he says is like so intense.
He's like, I got this peanut butter jelly sandwich.
It is the best peanut butter and jelly sandwich
because the peanut butter comes from Georgia.
And it's just, dude, everything he talks about
is incredibly intense.
I didn't like, I didn't like people who were passionate,
but intense, that's a bit too much.
Do you know what I mean?
A bit overbearing, I'm like, nah, like,
he hasn't had a fucking wonk in a while, you know?
It's definitely chaotic and there's a little bit of chaotic evil in there for sure, right?
There's a darkness, you know what I mean?
But it's fun, man.
I dig it.
He was going after these scammers, these Sims card scammers.
I don't want to like ruin the whole story if it ever comes out, but he found, he got like
one of his like mobile phones jacked.
It was like 50 or 60 grand on it and he found like a shop.
in North Carolina where these scammers
like bought and owned and operated like a Verizon store
just to do some hacks, which is wild.
They will just let anybody like put a pop-up Verizon store these days.
That's insane.
And that's all they are just like sim swap, INC,
just rocking and rolling.
Holy fuck.
Targeting people and then sim swapping and then getting their cryptos and then moving on and selling like be dazzled jeweled like phone cases on the side.
Right.
It's like it's like all these like vape shops.
You know they're their fronts for something.
I don't know what they're fronts for but like now these pop up Verizon stores.
Sim swap are us.
Did you see the report about the BitCuts or North Korea's sitting on, what was the B-Bans, 1.3 billion?
Yeah, Bitcoin, they changed it. They stole the Ethereum and they changed it of Bitcoin.
Now they got the little Bitcoin reserves stolen.
They love that mixer. Love that mixer.
Oh, Bureau, Bureau 97, fucking hard of work, right?
We don't talk about Bureau 97, bro.
We don't talk about that.
We don't talk about Bruce.
No, no.
All right, so listen, Elon Musk exposed what he calls a massive federal reserve scam,
accusing the U.S. government of creating magic money out of thin air.
According to Musk, the government operates a magic money computers that generate cash from nothing
and distribute at will.
These machines don't just print money.
They are fabric.
They fabricate payments and send them worldwide.
There are 14 of them at the Treasury now.
How else are you going to distribute the petroar dollar?
How else are you going to distribute the petroar dollar?
Come on.
They make new tokens and then they distribute them and then they wash trade them.
I mean, that's legit.
That's that's defy.
They're doing defy.
It's good that they're embracing defy finally.
That's good.
Just don't ask them where the yield comes from.
It's from the air.
So I was, you know, I was a tongue in cheek earlier about the Olympic, but it's a true,
and the versus the Titanic, but it's a true story.
Like, J.B. Morgan was supposed to be on the board, but pulled out of the last minute,
the three people that opposed, that had, like, strong fucking percentage votes,
the three people that opposed the Federal Reserve Act were on board with their families and just all happened to die.
And the people that were supposed to be on that weren't that swerved it were the people that end up past it.
Well, getting the Federal Reserve Act.
So it was, what, 1912, the Titanic?
And then the Federal Reserve Act was 1913?
There was no accident.
There was never the Titanic that sunk.
all fucking swapped over the Olympic fucking couldn't they couldn't claim on the insurance was game over they knew exactly what they were doing and there you go federal reserve they've been printing make believe fairy tale rainbow fart dust fucking money for a hundred and fucking 112 years i mean come on
What did Lincoln do?
The original meme coin.
What did Lincoln do?
I don't know, man.
What was Lincoln for?
I got a book about the Titanic.
I've been reading about that shit since I was a kid because I like ships and I like the ocean and I don't know.
Dude, the yard.
I don't think so.
I think it's sitting down there.
It's sitting down there also.
Have you read about the yard story?
When in the Irish, the Northern Irish yards where they actually fucking built that shit.
Holy shit, it was brutal.
Like the fight and that between the Protestants and the Catholics were unbelievable.
Like people, like, do you know, not a lot of people know this.
Because it was like when Churchill was like head of the admirably or something.
When they were building the Titanic.
I think it was around about 1910 or something
Churchill was hated in Ireland
but you know they just got Churchill
out of Ireland with his
within a fucking skin of his life
bro like literally the people
were trying to lynch him in the streets
and they just managed to get him away
and a carriage and that you know
they didn't have cars back in them to us
1910 or something, on 98, they just managed to fucking get Churchill, like, you're not out of that.
Literally, he nearly got fucking butchered in Belfast in the shipyards, well, just outside the shipyards at the Admiralty.
It was mad, man.
Literally people were getting fucking axes and that, putting in the back of the heads, isn't it?
Really scary time, like.
Cost of the eggs are down.
The third consecutive week.
I just want to let you guys know.
What about lipstick? How's the lipstick index trending? That's what we want to know.
Lipstick index? What you don't know about the lipstick index? Sure dope. You must know about.
Never mind. Do you know what you know about recession? And do you know about where the flaws of money and that like go and get trace to? So you know about the underpants index as well or not? Like when men buy fresh underwear, no?
In times of trouble and in times of need, we freeball it.
That's the index.
When people start buying underwear, it means they're too comfy and they've got too much money.
So you know who makes the most money in recessions, sex workers?
Factor, can't look at the lipstick index, or if you don't believe me, it's an actual proper thing, pay pants, if you don't know, no.
You don't know that the lipstick index, is this new for you? Okay.
See, I'm an economist, you know what I know this shit. It's what I do.
He said I'm an economist.
All right, gang.
Well, I'm going to go back to making the song so I can finish it.
If he shows up, start a new space, I guess, so we can get it archived.
I don't know.
I got the GMC one getting archived currently, so we'll,
We'll have that up on the feet for you.
If we do it, we'll only be doing it an hour,
and you can just cut out the whole thing,
because it's really there for me anyway.
I didn't even know what's gone on.
What I mean?
Must be fucking,
we'll find out.
But yeah,
you can just cut it like,
mate,
he must be caught up.
Back to the studio.
Back to the studio.
Yeah, Jake's a good kid.
He wouldn't ghost us like on purpose.
Like something's definitely cropped up 100%.
We've had him on twice and we've had them on,
like I say,
for like five and a half hours or something.
and he's a gangster so I he must be caught up I was only joking about Paddy's Day
take it easy anyway Finn Brian watch what you're doing rate B-Bans it's 35 we'll give
it 10 minutes alright so I what have you been doing have you been getting new containers
or something again or what yeah we have another one we're probably picking up soon but
Yeah, we just got, we just been getting rid of them.
You open them and getting rid of them.
It's kind of fun.
It's a lot of fun.
The only thing that's kind of gross is like, you know, people are gross and dirty.
So you also got to like protect yourself from getting their dirty on you.
You know what I mean?
People are, people are fucking disgusting like, aren't they?
I know awful like did you see the video I sent you that was a true Jody where he talked about a horrible like women online that were blaming like OCD and then the fucking house is in like absolute utter turmoil I was just like oh fucking hell
that see the woman who had the kid under the bed pushing the rubbish out from underneath the bed I was nearly sick what is wrong with these that's gross I can't handle that I hate climate
Do you know what I kind of understand?
How when you cook food, you don't like wash as you go?
Like, I might cook onions in like one pan, but I'll put them in like the big what,
well, like the meat and the gravy and all, but I,
while I'm cooking it, I'm washing the fucking pan.
Like, you finish your dinner, you just wash the plate, how easy is it?
I? Every night you put the rubbish out.
It's not really like difficult, like, just like, how easy it is keeping a house clean,
Anybody that says like, oh, it's a drama, oh, like this, fuck off.
Honestly, I cannot understand dirty people.
Oh, it's ridiculous.
Disgusting, isn't it?
I hear that shit, me.
You know, I get it.
But you also got to remember, sometimes things get messy because you got kids.
You can't control the whole situation.
Oh, well, there's a difference between messy.
There's a difference, wait a minute, though.
There's a difference between messy and dirty, isn't there?
Or messy and filthy.
Do you know these people that live in filthy environments and that?
Especially with kids, it's disgusting.
But we had this TV series in England called Hoarders.
And oh my goodness, like these people, I don't know what's wrong.
That's a mental illness, you know.
That's like the trans movement or something that is like an absolute proper mental illness.
People who like, let rubbish pile up in their house and that, you're like, oh my goodness.
But you watch it.
Because you can't believe how filthy people are?
You like you dirty fucking bastard.
I can't be dealing with that, like, can't.
Is this country bear or secret bear?
It's secret bear.
But bay bands, you know, dead all.
I love the smell of dead all.
I love my house smelling like a hospital.
So like people might be like, oh what?
But I just, when I know my house smells like a hospital,
We like that all, like I just feel as if like I'm in the right environment.
Like I love it. Like I love a fresh bed.
Do you know what I mean? I just love clean surfaces.
I love cleanliness everywhere. I hate doing it.
Fucking hate that. I hate the toilet.
I got in with a mask on and that and the spray bottle with bleach and they get big brush and I just go like mad and I just like.
I walk in and I'm like,
Yeh!
Like,
I'm Dexter cleaning up some murder scene or some shit like that.
They're just like fucking gloves on.
You love the new season of Dexter with the,
like the prequel of who Dexter was when he was younger,
like original sin?
I haven't seen it.
Oh my goodness.
It is so good.
It's very enjoyable.
We've got Sigra bear.
We've got your favorite bear.
Everyone's favorite bear.
Hello.
So, Adie, Kyle.
Sá'adde Sikau?
I speak in Tao, Thai?
What's he doing?
He's speaking Thai?
I was saying hello, whitey.
I...
But we had a white white is also the work, so it's cow, right?
See cow, so sea is color.
Like seafar, blue, see dang red.
But it also is the word for like rice as well.
So it was like, good morning, rice.
So-a-da-crap.
Good morning, rice face.
That sounds more racist.
But I'll eventually get the accent down.
That way I can...
You know, Red Eye, we don't speak like that.
So listen to you on the truth, right?
So Street Tie is completely different to like formal tie.
There's like seven degrees of formality in Thai.
So like, you know, the official proper one would be,
Sawaddy krabna kha, right?
And then literally in the street when you say you make it,
you're like, wadina, wadina, like,
Sawadi, wadina, wadina, it's like literally,
straight tie is so fucking cool, bro.
So cool, it's so different.
Did you guys do the, obviously I cut the end of the GMC space.
Always love hearing Foxy come up there.
Did you guys, did Jake arrive or was he a no show?
At the minute he's a no show, yeah.
If we got confused with the time, yeah.
So, I mean, Red Eye, I don't know if I overstepped the mark.
So, like, obviously, I did talk about the shit talk
and about after the announcement, recent announcement,
what happened.
I also did, like, say, like, you know,
a few times it sounded, like, quite high.
Like, I didn't know if I overstepped the mark a little bit,
but I don't know.
I just did, I did what was on my mind at the time and was like,
freestyling as we do
but like with basic ideas like
okay but we're gonna ask but then just
I don't know it was a good interview
I thought it was a good interview anyway
yeah it's hard man I mean like
you know especially with
dealing with
like posthumous topics
it can feel hard to not be stepping
on eggshells regardless
because you want to get to the truth
and you want to see what people really think and feel
about but also it's like
There's a level of decorum that you want to provide because like, regardless of your critiques, I mean, the critiques of a personality are, I mean, they're going to fall on deaf ears when you're talking about someone who has, you know, passed away.
So I think you guys did a decent job.
I actually thought they did as well.
I thought your woman presented herself like quite well.
I thought she was the star of the show, actually, if you want to know the truth.
Yeah, she's pretty cool.
I've talked to her a few times in DMs about a few different things.
She's definitely very passionate about the group.
And, you know, it's cool to see multiple people like her, you know, within a group like that.
It kind of helped carry the group, right?
You'll inevitably have some natural leaders who kind of emerge.
And I think she's probably one of them because I think she was just a contributor, you know.
sorry she was just like a community member consumer at first yeah she was mate and by the way
bans can you hear the birds in the background oh red eye you've got i mean it's late here for me
Oh, so when I heard them birds, I was like, listen to them little fellas.
This is why I go down the canal on that every day, like down to the motorway, blah blah, blah, the lake.
It's because there's something about birds, you know. It's really good for the soul.
People need to understand, especially early on the morning.
If you get out and you get in the birds, you feel better as a person.
Their frequencies, it's been proved that like the wake plants up on that on the morning.
this is like proper true this is how the guy in ohio started playing classical music
there he's fucking like corn and that and they grew like twice the size of the neighbors
mate i heard that straight away it's weird isn't it like i'm listening to what you're saying
intently but in the background i'm like oh listen to that like i'm buzzing off it like anyway sandy
gm darling gm how you doing good afternoon
Good morning, good morning, good afternoon, and this is the end of the winter, welcoming spring this week.
And can I just say something about the French people?
that they think they can ask for a statue of liberty back.
Didn't they have their revolution in 1789
because they were looking at us having our own country already?
And then they like made a cute statue and said,
thank you.
I thought that was like their thank you present to us
because we taught them about fucking liberty.
So kiss my ass, French politicians.
You will not get your statue of liberty back.
This is what real life is
democracy, liberty, repub...
This is what it looks like.
Because guess what?
My son is being a true American.
He's learning how to use a gun.
His big brothers already owns guns
and has a license to carry.
And when my son's 18,
his brother is going to gift him his own gun.
So French people can kiss my ass.
And that other thing about Elon Musk,
exposing the treasury...
Dude, we knew the Treasury was printing money.
Like, why it, but what it does do is it highlights how good we are, the blockchain.
That's why the blockchain exists, motherfuckers, because we want transparency.
And thank you, Wackafam, for constantly reminding us what the hell it is we are doing here.
Hi, B, Van, hello, I die. I love you.
You know what, thank you, Mr. Fox.
Thanks, thank you.
Sandy, do you know what, darling?
Honestly, you absolutely shit-talking the French better than anyone else wasn't on me 2025 bingo card.
Ha ha, ha, ha, ha.
She just fuck the French.
Yeah, I found a dead skunk today as I was walking my dogs.
And then I thought about why they made Pipe Lepeu a French character.
Oh, we just thought about Peppin'Leephew the week, Red Eye. Can you remember, Hawkey? We just thought about Peppa Lepew.
Sandy keeps me talking.
Sandy actually reminds me a lot, like her commentary reminds me a lot of, I'm blanking on his name, but Huey or the other guy who came in this past week for the first time, the guy from Cuba?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, just like a true appreciation for the values in America because you know exactly what it's like to have none of those.
You know, and it's not like you can sit back.
This country, you can't, like, sit back and think it's done.
And for goodness sake, I'm so glad.
America was asleep until 2016.
I know.
I've been here since 1977 going, wake the fuck up, wake the fuck up, wake the fuck up.
And then something happened when Trump showed up on the scene.
Everybody woke the fuck up.
And maybe it was world events and people realizing economically things were going to shit.
And then they're like, we're not giving up our guns.
And I'm like, okay, good.
We're still okay about that.
You know, in the middle of all this nonsense and the alphabet people distracting us,
you know, this is a daily thing to fight for what you believe.
And you know what?
I love that we have the freedom to do it.
And thank goodness we have, we still have,
Free speech. The fact that I can talk like this and nobody kicked me out of the space means we have free speech. Thank you.
Oh, Auntie Sandy, anyone would ever kick out of Iraq FM. I'll tell you what. They'd have a fucking problem with me if they did. If they even fucking thought about it, I'd be fucking slapping the DAF guns. You've had a very special place on this show since like...
you know late 2022 i we're at the 2025 yeah didn't you worry about that don e b bands i'm in
the group chat laughing like that was hilarious that i could stop laughing this is absolutely
shit dot oh monsieur you know why we eat snails it's the only thing we can fucking
catch monsieur look at this one it is getting away they're never gonna get
And by the way, I'm not the only one who thinks like this.
I dated a super powerful CEO guy who flew around the world.
And when he went to France, he would extend his stay and go to Italy to eat dinner there.
I'm like, tell me how come he don't like French cuisine?
He's like, oh, my God.
They take roadkill, put a sauce on it and call it fine gourmet.
No, no, no.
I'm going to Italy for good food.
And I took six years of French.
I went to France.
And I experienced all that.
So I speak from a place of knowledge and respect for French people,
for their, you know, what they have contributed to love,
because there's something about French people and love.
They should just stick with Amor.
French people do good love.
Stay out of American politics.
That's it.
Oh, the Italians do good food, though, didn't they?
I'm telling you, I'm partial or a bit of Italian me.
I love it all.
Like, fuck on those motherfuckers, they're sexiest, fuck Italians.
Like, I love hanging around with those.
You know what?
Hanging around with Italians is good for your self-esteem.
That's the truth.
I don't know if you've ever hung around,
we're probably like Sicilian boys on that,
but it's really good for your self-esteem,
I'm telling you.
By the way, I'm going to put a show in here.
I'm actually coming to Stargays this week.
There's only going to be 15 one-on-one,
my photography from the stars in the Sequoia National Forest.
And my white list is anybody who's been active on Stargays.
So, yeah, if you guys, you know, are going to look for fine art.
And, yeah, and I thought it was about time,
I joined you guys on Stargays because I've been collecting a lot of art,
and I love...
everything that's happening and the vibe.
And the only issue is...
Is this your first, Sandy?
Is this your first collection on StarGiaz?
Oh, congratulations.
This is my own first personal collection.
Absolutely.
I did a co-lab way, way back in the day called She Devils.
It was AI.
But now this is my first actual collection.
And I just wanted it to be low-key,
15 pieces, make it really rare.
And I've been working on light photography for about a year.
And I just took my finest pieces
to give you the vibe.
And I figured stargays, you know, let's go, stars.
And so it all came together.
And I got picked.
I entered, you know, they pick people.
So I went up against other artists who were competing for being featured on stargays.
So that's a big honor for me.
I don't take that lightly.
And I'm really happy to be among me.
I know you guys are all.
Oh, geez.
You've been there.
And I'm happy that I'm part of that family as well.
Thank you.
Oh, so Connor McGregor's just being at the White House, hasn't he?
Oh, first, congratulations, Sandy.
I know.
So glad you're for your collection.
I am washing my queenie right now because she got her period.
So I am kind of doing that in the middle of this too.
Yeah, but wait a minute.
Have you got a boy dog in the house or not?
Yes, he's fucking losing his shit.
Oh, well, you've got to keep them, oh, okay, well, you've got to keep them well up on part.
Yeah, yeah, they're separate.
They're separate, hardcore separate.
Yeah.
No way.
We're always home.
So, like, and we're always with them or she's always coming with me.
They're never alone.
They would be some retarded puppies, though, wouldn't they?
No, they're not related.
They would not be retarded.
They would be gorgeous.
I have beautiful dogs.
Nah, they'd be retarded. They'd be retarded.
They'd be retarded, looking puppies.
Do you know, though, the thing is, I'm telling you, one...
What about Connor McGregor, though? Go back to Connor McGregor.
We already know that. He's trying to... He's trying to bring awareness to Ireland.
Once the stick, once the stick, once a stick, you never, ever getting them apart, like, until your man's done his business.
Like, I didn't care what anybody says I've tried to do before, like, I...
Like, I've been involved in dogs.
She's only one years old.
We don't need to be talking about this right now.
Anyways.
All right.
Stella was like, Stella was 18 months when she had the twins.
And then two and off when she had Winston.
And you know what?
She's nearly eight, you know, and she's fucking fresh as fucking off.
Rete, Connor McGregor's gone off and about Ireland.
I reckon on the sly in secret, I reckon Trump's laid down the law of the prime minister of Ireland.
Yeah.
I don't think this is public information, but I actually think in private,
the hand closed doors, Trump laid down the law, like, and said,
you've got to start your fucking shit out with the EU and these immigrants and everything else.
I'm pretty sure, like, your man in Ireland's being put on notice, like,
if he doesn't sort his shit out, he's going to have some problems with the US and, look,
They told him that Rosie O'Donnell is not allowed back in the U.S.
They have to keep her out.
By the way, but for the regular folk, trying to go to Mexico,
shit got hard because now Mexico's pissed off.
And they're like enforcing visas and want you to get this.
And people can't, you know,
you used to be able to just drive to Mexico, get in your car.
And all you knew was your driver's license.
They're like, oh, yeah, well, we're going to fuck with you back.
And that has started.
Yeah.
So there's a two-pronged thing to Connor.
There's what you're saying right now on your screen, that's like the normal shit, right?
However, the other thing, oh, Baban, you got a hot mic?
The other thing in the background, the other thing in the background with Connor is, he's just been through the, the civil case.
and obviously like found guilty and obviously at a piece or Connor right now comes with a massive like stink behind him.
Let's use the word stink.
You know what I mean.
a bad smell.
And so there's two angles here is that,
wait a minute, this guy who's just been like found guilty
in like a civil court of like, you know,
sexual assault, whatever, blah, blah, blah,
with that woman in the hotel.
There's a lot of discrepancies in the story.
However, that was the verdict.
So you have to go on a verdict.
So that's going to be in a front for a lot of people.
First up,
But then he's also talked about the immigrant problem, which probably, when it comes to Ireland, comes to such shit like this, there's probably not a better voice box or soapbox kind of person than Colin McGregor for the Republic, the proper republic, right? Not Northern Ireland, yeah?
So like you need to think about this in two ways.
Like Trump's gone, like Trump knew bringing Connor in would create a fuck ton of negative publicity, negative feedback.
Reda, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just want to get the facts across as that this is going to piss a lot of people off, not just the talk on immigrants, but the fact that he's got this stigma around them that's been, there's a lot of people, what a lot of people don't know on the audience, a lot of people's walked away from Connor recently.
Right, a lot of people are look who say yeah.
Right, Red Eye, we're going to kick off the shore.
Red Eye, let's get your question and then here's your man.
Here we go, me, bands.
Red Eye, you've got the mic.
I'm just wondering if they happen to choose Connor because they, you know,
he got his fucking face smashed in by Khabib and it's like, well,
if we want someone that doesn't like people that don't look like him,
he's got a lot of, he's got a chip on his shoulder.
So, uh, anyways.
Yep, glad to see Jake here.
Yeah, the civil case, I think the civil case against Connor has been the one of the, I mean, he's sloppy, you know, punched an old man in a bar.
Conner's done some pretty despicable things. However, you know, you give a young kid, like, of that age, that much money, that much fame, agilation.
It fucks them up all the time.
Yeah, but here's the thing, though, getting punched in the head also repeatedly makes you not think right either.
So, yeah.
Right.
That is a very good point.
Hello, I really.
Thank you for your patience.
I'm so sorry for the lay.
I got my wires crossed.
It was nothing on your end.
I was for some reason thinking it was 11 o'clock my time when you said 1 p.m. Eastern.
I'm still on.
This daylight savings time shit has got me all kinds of messed up, dude.
I'm so sorry.
Jake, you know something, mate.
We big believers over here, Rack FM,
that we should have like 13 months of 28 days
and the week should start on a Sunday.
Do you know, like they're fucked with a calendar
to get us into the tax system.
I mean, we know you're a big, like, we know all you big on shit.
I totally agree.
Yes, we should be going to a 13-month, 28-day calendar system.
You know, that's the other thing you got to think about is like, what time, what year are we actually in?
Like, are we going based on like the dawn of the human species?
Are we going based on what, the flood, the biblical flood?
Are we going based on what, sumer?
Are we going based on what, the life and the death of Christ?
What are we going on, you know?
Yeah.
Jake, well, in Thailand, I've actually, funny enough,
just beat the immigration and the work,
the Labor Department this morning.
And in Thailand, it's actually officially the year 2,567 or, I don't know which one it is, but it's like we're like, we're 500 years in the future in Thailand.
So there's some, you know what I mean?
Dude, even though kind of like international businesses work off a normal calendar, the actual typical property calendar is like 500 and something years in the future.
Anyway, brother, I just want to say welcome B-Bans.
Let's not do new big intro.
Your man's time is precious.
We're super pumped B-B-Bans, haven't we?
This has been a long time in the making right bands, yeah?
Yes, I'm just so super glad.
I was hoping I was like, man, Jake might become too famous for us
and not be able to come to the show, but he's proven that he is not.
Never!
And he still loves us.
How you've been, Jake?
I'm good.
Yeah, dude.
Look, I like being out there for the little guy, man.
You know, and people, you know, one thing I'll tell you is that,
celebrities or or people with fame or power you know a lot of the time they're out of touch man
they're just out of touch and they aren't very good company they want a lot of the attention on
them they don't they don't they don't really there are a lot of like for example like actors and
stuff they're always in many cases they're always performing you know especially the ones that
really like the limelight and the spotlight you know so like normal people they like country folk or you know just
People that are down to earth are the people I like spending time with because they're the most real.
Well, Jake, that's a classic like point to kick off on.
So we first had you on the show, August 2023, not long after you had been released.
We went through like the whole story of what you'd went through.
It was actually quite emotional.
When I go back, I didn't want to use the word emotional.
I mean, informative.
Yeah.
A bit of an inside view was great.
The second time we spoke to you was literally the day that Julian Assange had made the deal
and all the shit was happening with him, etc, etc.
And we had like a long talk about, you know, the upcoming election.
But now, obviously, since the convo, since the Julian Assange shit, wow, dude.
I mean, there's been so much like water under the bridge.
Yeah.
I did really actually want to ask you a question that, I don't know, Baybans, like, can we go political first?
Because I know you've got some other questions.
There's a political first.
Let's go political first and then we'll talk about the, you know, shaman later.
Okay.
Really quick, really quick.
Before we go, please share the space.
I'm just throwing that out there.
Share the space.
Let's get this out there.
Go ahead.
Oh, he's doing the host job.
I know how bad a horse are we?
Please,
retweet out this.
Jake,
with that shock?
No, we're just so excited.
He's you.
I know.
We're like rabbits in the headlights.
We're like,
oh, he's here?
Oh, like fanboying it.
Never mind.
Right.
Dude,
I was...
I thought Trump had some great picks, right?
I mean, I'm glad he won.
We were talking about, like, him winning, blah, blah, blah.
We were big believers.
But I was like, some of these picks I thought were fun.
And you know, the one pick I was really, like, suss about, suspicious, right?
Was Rubio.
And honestly, I've been, I think I've been so surprised.
I really want your take on Ruby O because I think I might be missing something.
I'm not sure if I am.
But like, you know where I'm coming with this question like, dude, for me, I've been like, wow, this is the statesman that you need.
Like, this is what's required.
Am I barking up the wrong tree or is Ruby O good?
Well, as far as I can tell, he's doing a fantastic job.
And there's a reason why he got 99 votes in the Senate.
You know, if, look, state craft is an art, okay?
And it is not an art that is easy to do.
It is not something that, like Winston Churchill said that diplomacy is the art of telling the enemy to go to hell in a way that they ask for directions.
Right.
Okay. So that is a very, very specific art. Okay. And if you have somebody that's really good at it, then that is going to be somebody that on both sides of the aisle, they're going to look at them and go, yeah, that person fucking nails it.
you know, and like if we're gonna have somebody represent us
on like our global stage, you know,
we're gonna want somebody that knows how to speak diplomatically.
And also, but at the same time, like,
like in a truthful and in some ways a ruthless way,
a way that makes it clear that
we have the upper hand that we are strong, but also that we are willing to use that upper hand
and that strength to help as opposed to hurt. But if you mean harm, then we will most certainly
use it to hurt. And that is a, that's a very specific art too to indicate to foreign nations,
like, you know, whether it be what's going on with Panama right now in the Panama Canal or what have you,
like, hey, look.
You know, you're, this is the situation.
You know, it's not what it was.
And that's, that's an art.
So, I mean, as far as I can tell, he's doing a great job.
So, like statecraft, like statesmanship, he is on the money.
What do you think?
I mean, like, I've been so impressed by Vance.
The whole thing, the Zelensky thing, the Munich conference.
Do you think that Vance is of the same, like, cut of the jib or what?
Yeah.
it's possible. Vance is sharp. That's one thing I can say. When I saw him in person,
that was the vibe that I got from him, that he was very sharp. Now, sharp can be good if it's
on your side, right? Sharp can also be like, oh shit, you know, stay out of the way. And that,
in that regard, Vance is a force to be reckoned with on a global stage, right? In a similar way to Rubio.
Now,
what?
The thing is, what I think when we're talking about diplomacy here, it's kind of in some ways it's going to be good cop, bad cop, all depending on what it is that you're trying to go for, all depending on what it is that the other country is intending to do.
right so vance seems to me to be a little bit more of like and i and the thing is i haven't really
seen rubio in the room from what i understand you know there's all sorts of stuff that goes behind
closed doors with every in every country with every diplomatic exchange that is not what goes on
in front of the camera and i think that that's really going to apply now especially but
But Vance does a good job of projecting a certain air of confidence regarding America's diplomatic stances on very controversial issues.
And if necessary, our military stance as well.
And that's important in an executive.
And in that regard, he's actually...
as a as a senator, technically the senators were supposed to be experts in statecraft.
Okay.
Originally, and we should go back to this, originally, the founding fathers arranged it to where the senators were actually like elected by the state congressional bodies and then sent to Washington on the state's behalf to be statesmen, to be to be experts in state craft on behalf of their state.
in the federal government.
Okay, so it's equivalent to how we want a really strong person like Trump in the United Nations.
We also want a really strong person or two people, rather, senators, in Washington, D.C., representing Arizona or representing Florida or representing Washington.
You name it. Do you see what I'm saying? So that is essentially what the founding fathers had in mind. So J.D. Vance started out as a senator. Now he was, he's a new senator, but that's actually kind of a good thing because then that means that he's not been too indoctrinated by Washington. Right. So he started out as...
an expert in statecraft right if he's in the senate right that's kind of what they do now granted
we elect the senators differently now so the senators don't have the same level of potency and they
are not necessarily the exact same measure of statecraft that say the ones would be that would be
elected by the legislatures from the states before they change the law you see so that we have to factor that in but
clearly as vice president what he's doing in europe what he's doing here what he did with zolensky
and just you know it takes a lot of courage to in front of the whole world put your hand up and say
no no no no no to the president of another country that's you know acting that that's the thing
i think it was all orchestrated by the media that whole fucking thing i think it was orchestrated by
the media and zolinski and the globalists they're trying to get together they're trying to put
pressure and it backfired on them
So in that regard, you know, he took the pressure well.
And I really thought that he did the right thing by allowing Trump to take over.
You know, you know, Vance started out talking, but then as soon as Trump interjected, Vance took the back seat.
And that's what he should have done.
You know, Jake, I've fucking missed you, brother.
Do you know that?
Have you missed him B-Bans or not?
He's fucking class in he.
I was telling the audience earlier, I was like, he's one of the most articulate people you'll ever speak to.
Jake, you know...
I had this feeling in me heart to hearts.
From the minute of the first association attempt,
I was like, he's going to win, he's going to win with a clean sweep right across the board.
I was convinced, right?
Did election night throw up like any surprises for you?
Like did, like, were you just sitting there watching going,
I knew we would win all the swing states,
I knew they would get the House,
and knew they were gonna get both like Congress,
like the Senate as well.
Like, did you actually get the popular vote?
I mean, it's a big thing, isn't it?
How conclusive this bloody victory was.
This is like one of the greatest mandates
that President has ever been given.
Did that throw up any surprises or did you actually just think this is going to happen?
Well, what it was for me was if you read the ecosystem itself and you don't listen to the headlines, you don't listen to the mockingbirds, you don't listen to the Nancy Pelosi's and the Chuck Schumers that are projecting strength, right?
Right.
then it's clear Camilla Harris did not stand a chance.
It was also clear that Biden didn't stand a chance in 2020 and in 2024.
That's why they got rid of them, right?
But it was also clear that Camilla Harris didn't stand a chance.
The Democrats really backed themselves into a corner in that regard.
But what was not clear was whether or not –
We, the American people, were going to turn out in such volume that they could not rig it.
And Trump's slogan, too big to rig, that was a winning slogan.
Because, because, like, and the fact that, I mean, like, the fucking Amish came out, like, the March of the Ents from the two towers, you know, the freaking Amish came out, you know what I mean?
Bro.
What about the advert?
What about the advert?
Kamala is for the, them.
Trump is for you.
They reckon that moved the needle, like, eight points.
Like, that was one of the greatest advertising slogans in history, right?
Oh, yeah. Well, and that's the other thing is that the Democrats were so poorly put together because they don't have any centralized leadership, really, with the exception of Obama.
And the thing is, is that Obama, he's lost his magic with the people. That's for sure. I mean, they only had two rounds with Obama.
So in one way or another, look at it like this. Obama was kind of like, you know, their Trump card in that regard.
right and they played it early and then you know the america that's kind of how i look at it's not so
much for republicans as much as it's america and american patriots people that believe in the
constitution they played the real trump card and that changed the whole game they really they never
expected hillary clinton to lose so um
Yeah, I totally lost track of what your original question.
No, no, you're hitting. Wait a minute. I'll tell you what, I want to come in with a question.
So, yeah.
Can you tell me, like everyone I speak to, everything I see, why the hell are we now in March, the election was in November, and the Democrats look like they have learned zero lessons?
Like I'm looking at the Democratic Party. I'm like, you're an absolute shambles, you're in free fall.
Why the hell have they not learned any lessons from this experience, this ass-women?
No, I mean, I think, well, here's the thing.
The leadership, no.
But here's what I've kind of assessed about the deep state, about the swamp.
about the corruption, about these Democrats,
about things like USAID and all that kind of stuff, okay?
Is that what that is, bro, is that's the old guard.
It's the old system.
It's the old styles of propaganda using media headlines
and old reputable networks like the New York Times
or the Washington Post or, you know, things like CNN or Fox News
or what have you, right?
Network television, this idea of...
network television and newspapers and magazines.
That's 1950s, 1960s. That shit worked back then.
And guess what? So did the propaganda campaigns, the cover-ups of JFK's assassination.
All those things worked back then.
But they don't fucking work anymore.
They don't work anymore.
Not at all.
So...
Now we are witnessing the fall of that old guard, but they're going to continue to try the same old tactics.
And that's what's funny.
That's why it's so bad is because they're acting like their echo chamber is still relevant.
They're acting like their infrastructure is still dominant or still supreme in the ecosystem as far as narrative control goes.
And it's not at all.
And that shows how fraudulent and fake, not just it is, but that it has been.
Then it casts a very, very dark and broad shadow across the history of these institutions.
And then when you begin to look at the spikes and things like, you know, neurological disorders or autism or, you know, AIDS or whatever it is,
and you begin to see how these institutions ended up basically being like propaganda apparatuses for the deep state.
you know, machine during these crises that were actually in many ways engineered by the deep state machine,
then it really begins to get kind of dark.
So the fact that they're continuing to go down that road and spew this black magic bullshit,
and that's what it is.
It's the use of words, linguistics, neurolinguistic programming, the use of words or linguistics
to create a spell, to create an illusion using fear, using confusion, using chaos as
their tools to plant in your mind the view of reality that they would like you to see.
And that's, their black magic isn't working anymore.
Dude, the neural linguistic program, and so I know a lot about this as like a professor of English, but...
The dude who actually came up with that in the beginning was exposed as like a massive fraud.
People want to go and like just Google like NLP, neurolinguistic programming fraud and then just go and like read the proper shit.
B-Bans, I know you've got like a little bit of like a pivot.
Hold on one second.
I want to address that.
Not like you mentioned about the media.
You mentioned.
So I just want to address the NLP thing.
Here's the thing.
I wouldn't be surprised if what you're saying is true to a certain extent if certain people are making dramatic claims that cannot be proven in order to sell books or to get interviews or to, you know, get laid.
A lot of people do that one.
So I wouldn't be surprised if what you're saying is true.
But, but the...
Human mind, and I'm not talking about the brain here, I'm talking about the mind, okay?
The human mind constructs reality based on linguistics, based on words or syntax and cognition
and like placing reality together through words telling ourselves a story, right?
So, yeah.
You can look at it like in very short, glass is half empty or glass is half full.
You know, you can tell yourself that the world is good or the world is bad.
You can either be a victim or a victor.
Things can either, you know, it's like that whole thing about how life is 10% what happens to you and 90% what you do about it.
Right.
So for me, NLP has been a very important tool for healing,
and that's why I talk about it,
because it can also be used to cause damage.
If you are programming people's minds
to hate themselves in their country and their parents
and their siblings and anybody that doesn't agree with them,
you know, and you can't do that, okay?
You can't do that, then there's a very clear weakness
that we have as a nation if we don't moralize, if we don't make our citizenry's minds stronger
and more resilient to the attacks of black magic, which when I say black magic, what I'm saying
is, once again, the use of neurolinguistic programming to create a spell, right, to create an
illusion that entraps a person's mind in a place of fear and confusion.
I love what you said right at the beginning there, like dude, about language and blah, blah, blah, right, and about how we, like, fill things in ourselves.
So this is one of the reasons Norm Chomsky wrote the Universal Theory of Grammar, which a lot of people don't even know that.
Norm Chomsky, who became woke in the end, actually wrote some...
Yes, he did.
Universal TV of grammar, isn't it? You've got to read it when you do like a B.A or a B.E. I should say.
Dude, but really quick, let's go on that. Let's riff on that really quick, because this is really interesting, okay?
Did you know that our DNA is actually structured the way that grammar, it's structured in a grammatical sense.
In the sense, the way that like, so you know what I'm talking about? Are you aware of this?
Dude, 100%. Come on, tell the audience because I might not know.
So I'm just making sure I didn't know if you knew.
So yeah, for the people in the audience, basically similar to how, um,
how letters are brought together to create words that create larger, like a meaning, right?
So letters on their own don't have any real meaning per se.
But when you pile them together in a certain way, they create words that have meaning, right?
And then when you get those words together and put them together in a sentence in a certain structure
or a certain fashion, you get nouns and verbs and adjectives and all that stuff, right?
Then you get a larger meaning.
right, using these words in the similar way that it creates a hold that is greater than the sum of its parts,
like the way that letters create words.
And then you get the sentence, and then you put the sentence into context with other sentences,
and then now you have a paragraph.
And the thing is, is that similar to how you can say, I,
I, and then you can say I love, and then you can say I love you, right?
And how the final word ends up changing the context of the previous two, right?
Or giving context to the previous two.
This is how it is that linguistic structures work.
This is how it is that paragraphs and meaning and all that stuff works.
But it's also how our DNA works.
in that our DNA is set up in a grammatical sense to create larger blocks of meaning or code
that work together symbiotically to basically encode all of the story of our existence,
all of the story of all of our ancestors, of all life on this planet.
And it packs it into this little DNA strand that's in your nucleus.
And that can be active.
Dude, you know, I mean, obviously there's a lot of stories.
We're not going to get into this right now,
but there's a lot of stories about the expansionist of the human race or human civilization,
as we know today.
A lot of people in the world will not realize that every single language in the world has only got five vowels.
Like if anybody knows anything about this and how we actually make a vowel and it's versus a consonant and blah blah blah.
There's only five vowels in every language and the world uses them.
There's a great book, the University of Michigan did an amazing study of reading, I think it's called.
or the study of reading and it goes into the language tree.
It's a phenomenal book.
Jake, I want to ask you about these podcasts.
You mentioned about...
I'm sorry, dude.
This is definitely interesting to me.
You're fine.
But you've got Mike, you've got Mike Obama and Gavin Newsom now doing podcasts.
I mean, you've got Steve Bannon on Newsom's podcast.
So you know what I mean?
And we're like, wow, what's going on?
Dude, it's very obvious they're running, they're gonna make a run for 2028.
They realized that like Trump's success, starting with like the Jake Paul podcast, they all Vaughn, building up with Joe Rogan.
Trump's podcast appearances were legendary Andrew Schultz.
I watched them all, everyone.
And then you see Michelle Obama or Mike Obama, right?
She did like 25,000, but then it was like the Streisland effect that there was like that many reports.
She did 25,000.
She ended up with like 60,000, which the numbers are so bad.
It's embarrassing.
Even like Dylan Mulvaney, his book was like 513 on Amazon when it launched the other day, Dylan Mulvaney.
But dude, Gavin Newsom, Mike Obama, the podcasts, you've seen it.
You know what I'm talking about.
What's your opinion on this crack since we're talking about the MSN being dead, et cetera?
They need an answer to Rogan.
And nobody gives a shit what they have to say anymore.
So they have to cross-pollinate.
If Steve Vannon really did go on there,
I saw Charlie Kirk was on the podcast.
He was on the first, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So, Charlie Kirk.
It's cross-colonation.
It's cross-colonation, you know.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was money involved, okay?
You know.
Bing Fanon was very civil with them.
I didn't expect that amount.
No, no, just hear me out.
Look, I don't like the division.
Plain and simple.
I don't like the division.
Okay, and I know that as far as the Democrats like the voters go their hearts in many ways are in the right place
But they have their head up their ass
Okay, so their hearts in the right place, but their head isn't you know what I'm saying? So like I'm saying? So like
There's going to have to be some sort of a process where we figure out a way to help these people reverse their cranial rectum insurgent syndrome.
Okay.
We have to figure out a way to untangle this mess.
And the only way we're going to do that is together.
And the only way that we're going to be able to do that is through mutual respect.
Okay.
Now, me saying things like Democrats have their head up their ass, you know, that isn't necessarily the best way to go about it.
But saying that they have their heart in the right place, well, that at least recognizing that is something we all have to do.
Now, Gavin Newsom's podcast is a way of getting people.
to listen, like Democrats, that are really staunchly against everybody else, right?
The Republicans, all these people like Charlie Kirk, et cetera, right?
Steve Bannon, you know, really against them.
Give them a chance to listen to what they have to say through the lens of a Democrat
eye, like even one as repulsive as Patrick Bateman himself, Gavin Newsom.
Okay?
Okay.
that's fine. We want to heal. Okay. What we cannot do is allow that scumbag anywhere near the
motherfucking White House. Okay. So like they can run a podcast all they want. I don't give two
shits. Okay. But he's not getting anywhere near the White House. All right. Look at what he's done to
California. You know, I don't, you know, and the thing is, like I said, and this is another thing
that's important to think about too, is that.
The Democrats right now are super fucking pissed because their networks lied their asses off to them.
Their leaders lied their asses off to them.
in mass over and over, even when it was obvious.
Now the Democrats are stuck, the Democrat voters are stuck with the idea of either admitting
that they were wrong and they fucked up harder than most people have in their entire lifetime,
right, by getting the facts and supporting Biden and the destruction of America.
But now they also have to deal with the fact that Trump is coming in and reversing all the stuff
that they were taught and like programmed to believe was going to save the fucking planet.
Okay. So how do you do that? How do you do that in a way that you ensure civil order, right? You need you need something like the Gavin Newsom podcast for these really extreme lefties that are really woke, really freaking like communist and shit to listen to him.
and they can have fun sitting around agreeing with each other.
The fact that Newsom had Kirk and Bannon on, I think is a good thing.
Shit, if he invited me on, I'd go on.
You know why?
Because Christ said, I will enter any home where I am welcome.
right you know I just hope to God that you know he really isn't somebody like Patrick
Baton you know what I'm saying like I say that as a joke but like my point is is that we cannot
we can't be we can't be so hateful we have to be loving we have to have a sense of humor we have
to we also have to obviously be wise
Well, Jake, why have we seen some hatred within the MAGA movement?
So this is something I got a couple of questions before Baybant's gone at pivot.
You know, one thing I saw, which I'm not too sure about what happened here, Jake.
You might know.
When they did this Epstein release at the White House and they got these influences and the binders and it was all, I mean, I thought there was a bait and switch.
I thought they knew they didn't have the files, so they would release them.
And then there was going to be an outcry that there was nothing.
And then they were going to be able to blame their Southern District of New York, right?
That's the NY.
And you know, Laura Luma went after Pambondi really, really hard.
I think Pambondi's probably had more shit than anyone other than like Tom Horman.
Like, are there some deep state agents within the MAGA movement that are wanting to cause divisions, Jake?
This whole Epstein thing, this whole release, the whole...
You know, Pambondi blocking Laura Luma and everything.
It got me scratching my head.
I mean, have you got any inside information or, like, as an observer?
What's going on there, Jake?
No inside information here, but I have my analysis.
Here's the thing.
Look.
You got to understand the intelligence community, number one.
You know, one of the things that Elon talked about in his, in his podcast with Rogan,
was this idea that, you know, Trump is in one way or another inheriting, not with his staff,
but with all of D.C. and the bureaucracy itself and the pyramids of the bureaucracy.
Trump is essentially inheriting a mutinous crew.
Okay. So like, yeah, you're a captain of the ship, but if the, if the sailors don't listen to you, you ain't got shit, right?
So what's happening here is, and this is what you have to understand, and this is what everybody has to understand, okay?
Is that we didn't get to the deep state situation overnight, you guys.
It actually took successive and like numerous, uh,
over and over decades of infiltration to get to this situation that we're in now.
And it all started from the bottom, and then it kind of worked its way up to the top position of a certain pyramid.
And then it started going from one to the next to the next to the next until eventually, lo and behold,
we got ourselves, you know, the Federal Reserve.
And then after that, we were all fucked, fucked.
All right?
So this thing has been going on for a very, very, very long time.
We now have the heads of pretty much all of the most important pyramids in the government bureaucracy.
changed. Okay? So from the top down, there is change that is taking place. That change is going
to take time. And if you guys really, if you understood like the bureaucracy and the machine that
they're dealing with and you understood like the level and the scale of the corruption and what's
actually been going on for a long time, then you guys would be astounded at how fast everything
is actually moving. You know, I'm telling you that
what we are witnessing is probably the fastest moving administration as far as for the American
people that we have ever seen in our lifetimes. And there's a lot of people that'll say,
oh, Reagan, Reagan, Reagan, look, dude, I love Reagan in some ways. In other ways, like, I mean,
I don't ignore the fact that he went to Bohemian Grove. I don't ignore the fact that he gave amnesty
to a bunch of illegals in California. I don't ignore the fact that he
spent us into oblivion.
There's things that he did that I don't agree with.
You know,
Iran-Contra scandal was during Reagan's time.
So when we are talking about what we're dealing with
with the Trump administration as a whole,
and that includes Tam Bondi,
We are talking about probably the most, like, evolutionary and pro-constitution,
pro-American administration in our nation's history since its founding.
As far as, like, cabinets go, as far as, like, people that are for the Constitution,
the only thing that parallels this administration, in my opinion, throughout American
history, is our founding father's cabinets.
Okay?
So it's going to take some time.
And yeah, the Epstein folder thing was a terrible, terrible look.
It really was.
And I think that it was a mistake.
Look at it like this, okay?
Wait a good.
Hold on, hold on, let me finish this stuff.
This is important.
Hold on, hold on, please, let me finish this on.
When you have a lot of people watching you,
When you have all eyes on you, if you stumble even just a little bit, then it really, really stands out.
Right.
So I think that in the case of the folder issue, I think it was a stumble and a fumble.
and it ended up creating a really big deal because guess what it's not like it can be covered up by the mockingbirds in the media anymore now stuff goes viral now everybody in one way or another is their own form of media because they have the ability to go online and give their opinion about things okay so we're dealing with the different ecosystem here
And in many ways, we're dealing with a transition from one old system, the Mockingbird media system, to this new system, social media system.
And that transition is going to have some hiccups.
It's going to have some times where the ball is dropped by good people.
And because we have this trauma response, because we've been lied to so much, we are automatically going to think that there's corruption of it, that there's, you know, it's, you know, some people are going to say it's the Jews.
Other people are going to say it's the commies. Other people are going to say it's, you know, you name it. It doesn't matter. The point is, is that.
Give it time.
Judge a tree by its fruits.
We only have been in this administration for what?
Like not even two months yet.
And we've gotten a lot of progress.
Do you think, Jake, do you think, though, if we look at the Binder release, the Epstein
Binder release thing with the White House, the four doors, and it was very poignant where
the photos were taken at the back door kind of thing, if we look at it like it was a release
on purpose that was meant to look bad and meant to cast shade on the SDNY, then
Then that gives us like a little bit of a different perspective, doesn't it?
Like, so this was right before cash got sworn in, right?
It stinks to me of Trump's 60HS.
Well, you know, maybe, dude, but I don't think so.
You know, I saw the video.
I saw the video of what it was, okay?
And what it looked to me like was these guys got these folders, and they felt all high and mighty.
Yeah.
Right? And they were celebrating. You know, I can't blame me. If I got the inside scoop on something like that, I'd be like, oh, yeah. But then they saw the press there.
The press, apparently, and I did a little bit of digging, I saw DC Drano talking about this.
You know, the press was there because they were covering something else entirely. Okay. And then when dude saw the press there and, you know, like a kid at Christmas, he showed the present.
You know, then that went viral.
That's what I'm trying to say is that like, Pam, you know,
It maybe it was a bad idea.
It was a bad idea to give all these fucking people folders and then send them out the door.
Okay, that was a bad idea.
Okay.
But the point is, is that the whole debacle, I don't think, was intended to draw as much shade as what you're trying to say.
I think it was an organic thing that got out of hand.
And because we have this trauma response, because we've been lied to so much, we begin to become suspect of just human mistakes.
Right, so the last question before we'll hand you over to our hostess with the moustice, B-Bans from the block, Jake.
We did get some questions earlier about your legal status.
So obviously the first conversation we had back in 2023,
you know, we knew all about it.
So the pardons, we weren't sure exactly what your kind of like situation was with the J6 pardons.
Was it a blanket pardon?
I mean, did you get fully exonerated or can you?
I believe so, yes.
I believe it was what they call an unconditional pardon, if I'm not mistaken,
where you're just basically given, you know,
not necessarily like it never happened,
but like all rights restored, voting rights, firearms rights,
all of that stuff restored.
Oh, you can have a gun?
Can you get a gun now, can you?
Yes, apparently I can now.
So thank God for it.
Oh, dude, I'm so happy.
I'm so happy because that was when we first bought you.
That was the like...
the goddamn given right that they're taken away from me
and I was a bit pissed off about that.
I mean, I'm not going to be funny.
Look, you're a high profile personality
and like you need a good in your house to protect yourself
if anything ever happens, you know?
So I'm so glad about that.
I'm really happy.
Thanks, man.
Me too.
Oh, he's lovely, and he lovely, B-Bans?
B-Bans is in the GM group match, she's like, I love his vibe.
Right, B-B-Bans will go back to a little bit of politics before we wrap it up.
But I know you've got some things you want to talk to Jake about, right?
So over to you, darling.
Well, Jake, last time we spoke, you hadn't read the Bitcoin paper and you weren't really into crypto.
Now you've launched a token.
So I definitely want to know what prompted you doing launching the token.
And how has your experience been so far in, you know, getting around in this crypto space?
I'm glad that you asked that.
Yeah.
Let's start with, I still haven't read the Bitcoin paper.
I'm sorry.
But here's the thing.
Just look, just hear me out, okay?
Oh, no, no.
I'm not a reader, okay?
I mean, when I was in prison, I read a lot, but you know, I'm more of a listener, okay?
And even then, I'm more of a watcher and a listener than anything.
But that doesn't matter.
The point is that...
I now have a better grasp of what it is that this ecosystem is, what it is that it offers,
what it is that is wrong with it, what it is that's right with it,
and how to avoid the pitfalls, et cetera, et cetera.
So when I...
Found out that Donald Trump had launched a well first of all I found out about Hawk to and I was like damn. That's that's a real shame, you know and then I heard about Trump launching his and in the Melania and how successful all that was
And I had heard that it was a $10 billion market cap.
And I said to a buddy of mine who was really into crypto, I said,
bro, is it true that Trump made $10 billion on a meme coin?
And he said, bro, Trump made $80 billion on his meme coin.
And I said, no fucking way.
And I said to him, because he was into crypto,
I said, you know, is there any way that we could launch a meme coin, you know?
And he said, yes, yes, there is.
He said he would get back in touch with me.
He actually got in touch with his buddies, people on his end.
I actually see somebody that, Infinion Raider Queen in there.
She has the Infinion, I think that's the Infinion's logo there.
Let's see here.
Make sure.
Yep, infinity on blockchain.
Fucking A.
So anyway,
hi there.
so I,
was brought in touch with these people we talked about the idea of launching the shaman we call it the shaman
kwan it's not a coin it's kwan if you've seen jerry mcguire then you know what the kwan um and so it's
q w o n i i absolutely love that that's what it is it's shaman kwan so anyway um so uh
we launched it and it was a fair launch,
it was a good launch.
There's a very stable floor.
I don't actually have any quon.
And this is how I wanted to do it.
And this is why I got into the ecosystem
because I saw what happened with Hock-Tur.
I saw what happened with Rick.
you know, like people like Rick Ross, and recently like Javier Malay, you know,
these are the things that I don't want to happen to the people of crypto.
You know, Trump actually kept the liquidity and the value in the,
Web 3 space in that he, you know,
dumped the liquidity from his coin into NFTs and stuff like that.
So he kept the liquidity in the space.
He didn't extract it all, right?
Like Hock-Tuh or like Rick Ross or, you know, Malay or what have you.
So my...
intention in starting this whole thing was to set an example for celebrities that try to come
into this space and use their celebrity to basically screw the people of the crypto community.
And what I did is I, you know, we launched this thing. I don't have any of the Kwan.
All of the money, or rather all of the fees that are generated, the little 1% fee that's generated every time somebody purchases a Kwan, every time somebody purchases one of the Shaman Kwan, that little percentage fee goes into a wallet.
And that wallet is going to stack up the fees.
And we're going to use that money entirely on the funding of...
children that have been traumatized through abuse getting an opportunity to heal through art and art therapy.
So as the person that's behind this quon and the person that is...
pushing it. I am helping to ensure other people are financially wealthy, that the people in the
crypto community actually make money on this and it's not about me making money. And also that
children get an opportunity to heal through art and art therapy. I'm also-
It's a social enterprise, Jake, right? There's a social enterprise behind the whole thing is what
you're saying, yes?
Well, kind of like, I guess I don't know what social enterprise means.
There it's, it's, look, I heard about these guys.
Look, social enterprise is DEI without the walkness kind of thing as well.
How would I explain it.
Oh, okay.
Well, I mean, look, I heard about these guys in the crypto community.
I actually did a podcast or a space with them like a year and a half ago or something like that.
And.
Yeah.
They used crypto to fund a bunch of fresh water wells and like running, like running water in villages in Africa.
Like they used crypto to do that.
It wasn't aqua.
They don't even live.
They don't even live in Africa.
It wasn't aqua.
Hold on.
What was the name of the group?
It wasn't aqua?
I don't remember.
But we did a space together.
And it was.
It was water.
I remember.
I did the space with them.
You can actually, I think you can find it in my highlights.
I'm not sure, though.
I think I did put it in there.
It was a really good one.
But it doesn't matter.
The point is that when I heard that,
I realized that, dude, we can use crypto to make actual changes in the real world.
So look at it like this, right?
The whole reason why the government is so shitty is because it has no competition, right?
They do these fundraisers, they have these campaigns, they make all these promises,
and then they give us the thumbs up before the election, and then after the election they give us the finger, right?
But imagine it like this.
Imagine if meme coins could end up acting all,
and like the crypto market or the crypto world could act like a parallel republic,
like an economic republic where it's like, okay, I tell the people what I'm going to do with this meme coin is make everybody rich and I'm going to help.
children to heal, right? And then so they say, I believe that he's going to do that. So if they
dump the money into the Kwan and then I use this money that is dumped into the Kwan to help
children heal all over the world and to make people rich, then essentially I'm delivering on a
promise. I'm acting like a like a representative of the people's will in the world, not just not just
in the country, but in the world.
And it also, now look at it like this, that parallels somebody that say they are a political candidate and they run on the idea of ending human and child trafficking.
Or they run on the idea of, you know, helping children in the system to heal, you know, that have been trafficked or something like that.
But they don't do it.
But they don't do it.
Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
Yeah.
Jake one second, Red Eye, yeah, Red Eye, he's up, he said he's got a make up, he's in the DMs, he said he's a valid friend, by the way, do he's a very trusted friend.
Red Eye, you want to make a point, all right? What's your point, bro?
Yeah, yeah. So just two main points here. One, over the Bitcoin white paper, I'd recommend anyone that's just getting into crypto, read the crypto Anarchist Manifesto by Timothy May. I believe this was back in, what was this?
Fucking...
90s or 95? 95? Yeah, I think this really explains what the whole ethos of the movement was really about.
You mean the ecasteas? You're talking about the early 90s? I'd also recommend you watch Roger Verdez. I'd also recommend you watch Roger Verdez.
interview with Tucker Carlson, where Tucker is talking about, he's like one of the only, if not the only mainstream, I can kind of consider him mainstream media, but person where they're talking about this complete lack of privacy in crypto.
Robo, you'll recognize that.
the statement that I'm about to make us to send RackFM before.
You know, I made this prediction that as, you know, I think I said this right,
as the government was considering using blockchain technology,
is that the government, and by extension, I'll really include any open market participants
will either use this technological stack being out.
blockchain to continue their current behavior and their corruption fraud, waste, and theft will be on public display for everyone, not just the government, but any open market participants. Or there will be this very
significant recognition by government and private businesses, users that privacy is necessary for these systems, be able to function properly, for them to be properly adopted.
And so I would just say,
Jake, I would highly recommend just doing a little bit of reading about the types of privacy that are provided in crypto for someone like yourself who is a bit more of a public figure.
I can 100% guarantee you that you will be the subject of many, many social engineering attempts.
people trying to hack you, people trying to track your wallets, people trying to track what you do when you do it,
anyone that's associated with you or your wallets or your projects.
So I would just encourage you to not saying to launch anything in any particular place,
just like understand what tools are out there to better help you protect yourself while you're interacting in this space.
That's just really all I got to say.
Well, I appreciate that.
Jake, you might not know though. He is like a privacy expert who works like for Shade Protocol on Secret Network.
So like when it comes to privacy, there's nobody that knows more than their red eye.
And he was in the DMs and he was like, just just tell like Jake to be really careful.
Like just, you know. And it's true, bro. Like there needs to be with a public figure like yourself.
There needs to be a definite like a gulf between, say, like you and the crypto side of things.
Because like, you know, people are the, Jake, it's very, very bad.
It's a very, very harsh, tough, dirty fucking industry.
Well, I know.
I mean, I know.
I didn't even get a chance to fully explain why I was doing what I was doing.
So, I mean, I understand it's a lot to explain, and I, you've been very patient with me.
I know I can go on and on and on, but allow me to just, allow me to finish up, and I promise you I will address this idea of how crummy the ecosystem is in crypto.
So when I saw that Donald Trump said he wanted to make America the crypto capital of the world,
I recognized that we are dealing with the situation here that is unprecedented.
We are talking about Web 3 right now, the way that we were talking about the Internet 20, 25 years ago.
Okay. Back in the day, you know, 25 years ago, yeah, there's, you know,
A certain amount of people had websites, but it wasn't that big of a deal, right?
But now here we are 25 years later.
And any corporation or any company that doesn't have a website that isn't taking money through the internet,
is out of touch and they're losing money.
Okay?
So when I saw Trump said that he was going to make America
the crypto capital of the world,
I saw the opportunity.
And I realized that there was a vacuum
after the Trump and Melania coin launched
and that with that vacuum,
we could insert ourselves
and not just this idea,
which is setting the standard for all celebrities in crypto,
that, you know,
and it's also about the...
long-term plan here, which is to clean up in one way or another the crypto, a certain portion of the crypto ecosystem so as to ensure that we can sort of meet Trump halfway as like the citizenry. We can meet Trump halfway.
and then help to establish a stable platform upon which we can build the American crypto capital of the world.
Okay.
We need a stable platform.
We need a stable, like, a level playing field here.
Okay.
Now, by setting the example, by...
you know, doing what it is that I'm doing with the money, basically,
as well as bringing into this crypto space,
this long-term view of crypto and how it can be viewed,
how it can be used, how it can actually act like an economic republic of sorts,
like taking all of these ideas into the crypto space
and treating it less like a casino and more like a business.
Right? And I realize that casinos are a business, but they're a business that just fucks people.
Okay. So what I'm talking about is creating a business that actually helps people prosper, that allows the will of the people to be expressed outside of political campaigns and government fucking action. Okay.
We need to start thinking differently about the crypto community.
Okay.
And that's what I'm bringing into the crypto community.
And with that intention and with this meme coin,
it is my intention to...
Do something that's going to last, like, like, hundreds, if not thousands of years.
Like, creative.
You understand what I'm saying?
Jake.
We're getting DMs asking about who's controlling the wallet.
Yeah, I'll hand it over the B-Ban.
I just got a couple things.
So hear me out.
I know intentions are, you know, are awesome and stuff.
But also knowing this space really, really, really well,
and super, super understanding who you're dealing with.
But I do understand who I'm dealing with.
From what I understand, the people I'm dealing with are good people.
Jake, Jake.
Oh, no, no, no.
Listen, listen.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
There have been a lot of well-meaning people that have started and created these
created projects and aligned themselves with
other people, right? Just hear me out. And they say, okay, we're going to give this money.
They can do an FT project or they do a token. They said the proceeds of these token is going to go
to help starving children in Africa or plant some trees or to do this. And so they launched
these projects. And there has been a lot of, I mean, it's lots and lots.
I have the wallet. I have the wallet.
I have the wallet.
I have the wallet.
Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
Like, I have the wallet.
So you know the money is going to go where it's supposed to go.
No, but does anybody else have access to that and the people that you're working with?
All right.
No, it's just mine.
It's just under your name.
So, yeah, Baybans, let me come in.
Jake, one second.
Let me come in here.
So this happens on Shark Tank all the time.
Jake, with all the greatest respect in the world,
and we know we love your brother.
What happens if you walk out of your front door tomorrow
to go at the store, cross the road,
and you get hit by your truck on the road tomorrow.
Then I'll give it to my mom.
Look, dude, here's the thing.
Here's the thing, okay?
Yeah, but had she already got to, like if you get wiped out.
No, and here's the thing.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Okay?
And this is something I want you guys to try to understand
about what I'm trying to do in this space.
Okay?
Okay.
Y'all are skeptical as fuck as you should be of where the money is going.
I'm glad you heard that.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Please listen.
No, that's not what we mean.
No, it's not you.
We're not talking about it.
No, I understand.
I understand.
Just listen to me.
I understand you're not meaning that in a personal sense.
What you're saying is that there's shady-ass people in the crypto space.
And if what red-eye is saying is true about privacy,
then we have to make sure that the wallet and the funds are secure
because people get fucked all the time.
Okay, I get that.
The people that...
started this thing with me are very good reliable people.
I'm the only person that has access to the wallet.
I'm the one that wants to help to set the standard
in the crypto space to show everybody,
this is how the money is being spent,
this is where it's going, this is what we're doing with it.
These are the, and the thing is,
and if you look at the chart, you guys,
then the chart is very clear, a clearly a fair launch,
And there is clearly a stable floor that has been created and people are not selling out.
So the intention behind all of this is good.
The back end and what you guys are saying about who has access to the wallet,
who has access to the funds is 100% on point.
I've got somebody on my end that has already told me everything that you guys are saying.
And we've got all of these bases covered.
And the people that, in particular, the group that helped to launch this coin,
They are good people.
And the person that put me in touch with these people, I trust 100%.
And he's the one that's already given me the answers to all of these questions that you guys are asking now,
or help me to answer them myself without me even knowing that these were questions to ask.
So I just want you to know it's all good.
I don't want to sit here and be grilled about or be told or pushed you about it.
I mean...
Come on. We would never have you on this show.
Dude, you're part of it.
Honestly, we feel like you're another brother from a different mother.
Like, didn't it work?
No, and it was not meant to offend you or anything like that.
It was meant to say, like, this space is brutal.
And I felt like it would be, it would be not right.
I wouldn't feel right if I didn't tell you.
If anything, it's just better knowing what you have kind of not really going against you,
but just like you're going to get these questions along the way.
Like these are not going to be the first time or the last time you'll hear these
because people have become super skeptical.
And I would say for B-Bans, like,
When we hear people in general, it's like you might be someone that we know a little bit better,
but like 99 out of 100 times we hear like people.
We, not just the people in this room, anyone in this space that's familiar with crypto,
like when you hear about these things, 99% of the time, they turn out to be scams.
And this is not saying you aren't just know that you kind of have this headwind against you,
right.
Oh, do you're absolutely right about that.
I know that.
You're right about that.
Exactly, Jake. It is. It's a permanent. It's a perma fucking headwind.
Like, you can't do anything. But that's why I'm trying to come into this crypto space, bro.
Because I am trying with all of my being to, to like break that spell and to give people like, look, bro, I don't know if you guys are aware of.
Let's just talk about the Infinion blockchain for a second, okay?
Because this fucking blockchain, I have never seen anything like this before.
And it is going to change the game when people realize how evolutionary.
It's not revolutionary.
This is evolutionary.
This idea is and what the Infineon blockchain is.
Is that the ICP?
Sorry, is that from ICP?
Is that the internet computer guys?
Yes.
Infinity? Is that what their show?
I believe so.
That's what, you see the Raider Queen down there?
I don't know if you guys can see that.
I'm following.
Is it a new blockchain?
Is this the one that show?
It is a, um, it is a layer two blockchain.
It is, it is relatively new.
Is it Leap two on ICP?
In all honesty, here's the thing, bro.
In all honestly, I don't fucking know.
You know, I saw 100% down there when they were hit when you were saying that. So maybe I don't know. I don't want to say too much. What I want to tell you is the idea behind the Infinion blockchain and why it is that it's a really good thing to get behind and why it is that it's going to change everything. Okay. So.
from what I understand how it is that like these blockchains and stuff works is
through the contracts or the code that is written on the blockchain and how it is that
say liquidity is distributed to the blockchain or people on it or wallets etc.
right so what the infinion blockchain or like the algorithm does is any and all
transactions that are made on the Infinion blockchain, any and all liquidity that is generated on the
Infinion blockchain essentially goes into like a bucket. And then that bucket fills up, fills up,
fills up with liquidity, and then it dumps when it gets to a certain spot.
and when it dumps it actually divides almost it's like it dumps into like a spigot that
divides it into five different categories one for nfts one for the business end of infini on one
for the native token and one for uh all the coins or tokens the mean coins on the on the blockchain
there's there's a whole and there's one last one i think it's like a it's like it like it's like
it's like it's like it's like a double infinion token i don't really remember the exact specifics of it
but the point is that
that all the liquidity gets dumped back into the system so that everything on the blockchain just appreciates over time as a matter of course.
And all expenses as the blockchain grows are covered as the liquidity process.
pool grows and as these liquidity dumps like are going and going and going because certain
money goes or certain part of the liquidity goes into the business. So as the business gets bigger,
so does the liquidity pool for the business side of the blockchain, as does the amount of
money that's for all of the NFTs on the blockchain, et cetera, et cetera. And then so the more money
that is generated on the blockchain, the more activity on the blockchain, then the more of the
liquidity is generated into the, to the whole, um,
the um the the oh my gosh the value of the blockchain itself right the value of the native token
etc right now right jake wait a minute i don't i don't want to pivot like we're being on about
your project for a particular like long period of time but i'm getting dms listen brought
red eyes has his hand up too i know i know i know redder queen here cool yeah yes we have but i jake very
quickly
Within the last couple of weeks, we saw an insane pushback from crypto natives, what I would call crypto natives on the strategic reserve of the USA.
So people have been kind of asking, you know, do you think like it's like like what's your perspective on the fact that like taxpayer funds would be used to require like BDC Bitcoin for the US?
And like we're not moving away from crypto.
We are still in that element.
But it's like a lot of crypto heads were like, no, we hate this.
We hate this.
We hate this.
Have you got any thoughts on this strategic reserve or not?
Yes, I do.
Okay. So let's start with this.
I think that what happened with Hachtu, with Rick Ross and Malay, may very well be coordinated attacks to devalue the crypto market so that the globalists can use the crypto as a way of hijacking the digital currency system and rolling out their central bank digital currency through crypto.
So I think it is very, very wise to be very, very wary of institutional infiltration into what would otherwise be a free enterprise or a free system.
However, similar to the Wild West...
What we have here, like for example, a hidden Tombstone, Arizona is we have a town of cowboys, outlaws, people that come in and do whatever they want.
They rate pillage, they burn, you know, they do whatever they want.
They take people's shit and then they walk away.
Something's got to be done.
And if the crypto community can't handle their own shit, right?
then guess what?
Somebody's going to step in and have to fucking handle the shit, right?
And that's what essentially is being the government is being forced to do that
because the crypto community is not self-regulating.
Okay.
Now, that being said, that's why I'm trying to enter into the space.
Because what I'm trying to do is establish a scenario where,
the government looks to certain people within the crypto space that are doing things right,
and they look to them to see what would be the best way to regulate this system that is not just,
and now this is something else that's very important, in a way that is profitable for the people on the blockchain.
Now, the only reason the government would want to do that is if they two had,
coins on the from or in in their reserve is if they had a stake in the blockchain if you allowed them to
purchase the some of these coins and have them in a reserve and the government of you know assets appreciate then that's good for everybody
including the people on the blockchain if they are able to regulate the
the crypto ecosystem in a way that is similar to the way that it already functions based on good people trying to do the right thing,
then there's no real reason to worry about quote unquote government regulation interfering with the free market of crypto.
What we want to do is chase out the people that are essentially the Cowboys and Tombstone.
We need a Wyatt Earp to come out to tombstone and to lay down the law.
Now, like I said, that's what I'm trying to do with my mean quang, with my shaman kwan, right?
That's what I'm trying to do.
But...
If we don't do something ourselves, we're asking for somebody to come in and do something.
Now, is it possible that bad actors are being sent into the crypto space to do these things?
Absolutely.
That's kind of what I'm suggesting is taking place, which means that if the crypto community was better united,
then these people would be easily taken care of and there would be no reason for the government to come in and start regulating and shit.
like shared insurance i love i love this space wait a minute i'm just going to say be bands
this has been an absolutely amazing space
But it's not that I want to shift off the crypto, because we have got your woman in.
Red Eye, you've got your hand up, bro. Go on.
He's had his hand up for a minute. Let's give him a chance.
Oh, all good.
Robo did catch the first part of my question, which I was curious because I'm sure you've thought a lot about the role of the U.S. dollar in global economics, global markets.
And, you know,
the current push by the Trump administration to get government spending better under control,
get reduced the U.S. deficit. And I personally as a U.S. taxpayer, I am
I do not like the idea.
And I know they didn't give clear language in this strategic reserve the bill that created
or the order that created the Bitcoin reserve.
But I personally as a taxpayer, like I'm already incredibly critical of where my taxpayer
dollars are going.
And while Bitcoin is becoming more and more seen as this global store of value.
especially, you know, it retains a lot of these, the values and properties that are there recognized stores of value have, but it improves on them and efficiency and speed of being able to move stuff.
But at the same time, like, I find it very difficult to stomach the idea of the U.S. government acquiring on the taxpayers' dime.
speculative assets, and two, as someone who believes very strongly in the original crypto ethos,
where individuals, private citizens globally are taking back control over their data and
their value through these systems.
I find the government's continued...
push to push into this space to be quite infringing upon those original principles.
Now that's just, that's more of a personal thing.
But yeah, I just wanted to add that.
I'm curious on your perspective as someone who's paid taxes in the past.
How do you feel about the US government speculating, buying speculative assets with
your taxpayer dollars?
In all honesty, look, life is risk.
Okay.
If the government would have had the foresight to purchase a shitload of Bitcoin when it first popped up, none of us would be complaining.
Okay.
The real issue is that they always seem to be late to the party, right?
And therefore, it's expensive now to buy a bunch of Bitcoin.
And that is going to go up.
It's going to go down, et cetera, et cetera.
Okay.
But here's the thing.
What the Bitcoin purchase is, or even XRP within, like in Japan, right, is a statement.
It is a global statement of a transition within the financial system, but not just within the financial system, within business world, within communication, within...
modes or systems, whether they be decentralized or centralized, you see? So I do honestly believe that
this purchase is a good thing. And I'm glad that they're making it. Now, regarding what you're
saying, it sounds to me like you have a tremendous mistrust of government, and that is a good thing, sir.
I, too, have a tremendous mistrust of government.
What we have to do, then, is we have to tailor,
we have to tailor the acquisition of cryptocurrency.
We have to tailor the...
legislation that's written for the reserves or or just anything in general.
We have to tailor it so that it isn't benefiting just one percent of the population.
And that's what I'm trying to say about the Infineon blockchain and the idea and that when people
fucking get how genius this shit is, they will realize that.
that this is the thing to get behind.
This is the concept to get behind.
This is probably one of the most evolutionary economic models I've ever fucking seen.
Okay.
And when we take that model and we bring it into not just the crypto space,
but other elements of our lives as either individuals or as nations,
then we're really going to start creating massive amounts of abundance because the concept itself is essentially akin to what happened with the Amazonian dark earths and the Amazon and the planting of trees and food plants and shit like that and the creation of the Amazon jungle.
All right. It's miraculous and it's possible. It is totally possible to create a system that that is not destructive but is actually creative, one that is not parasitic but is actually symbiotic.
it is possible.
What was the soil called
Terra Primer or something, wasn't it?
That is Territus.
Yes.
Amid, I mean, you're talking about the blockchain.
Look, I don't want to hang around
on the blockchain for too long
because we haven't got that long B-Bans.
We've got like what, Finn?
Finn, like said,
two and a half hours is the max cap.
So we've got like 22 minutes, right?
Before we move off the blockchain, Jake, yeah, you said that you're not collaborator,
but we've got your woman in, right?
We've got Rader Queen in, yeah?
Well, I don't know who that is.
I don't.
I mean, maybe I do.
Maybe I know them from Telegram or something, but I don't know who that is.
I just saw they have the Infinion logo in there, and I was like, oh, shit, look at that.
Well, I therefore want to drop a couple of last remaining political questions before.
So let's end the blockchain convo.
Hello, Rita Queen. Hello.
Hello.
Jake, I'm actually C lady on telegram.
I thought that might be you.
Yeah.
I just want to give a shout out.
Jake's one of my heroes for freedom and for truth.
And yep, I'm a holder of the shaman token.
And...
It launched originally on Seoul, Solana.
The Infineon team launched it.
I've known the guys there in Infineon for several years now, trustworthy guys.
Rebel Matt, he's top-notch developer.
Okay.
Love him.
And, you know, they're the guys behind this.
The Infinity on blockchain is a work of art.
It's awesome.
It's an ever-appreciating blockchain.
And it's set to change the way we view defa in the future.
And, of course, you can, you know,
The shaman token is available on Phineon now through the bridge from Solano.
So it's a great little token.
And just again, a shout out to Jake.
Like I said first, he's one of my heroes.
Oh, I see.
He's a fucking cop dude.
All right.
I don't even know that the shaman token migrated.
Sorry I hadn't gotten there yet.
Yes.
You can purchase it on Salana, but there's also a bridge that people who are on Infinion
blockchain can also purchase it there.
So, you know, I bought it on the Salon.
I bridged my tokens over to the Infinity on blockchain, and I have bought it on there as well.
So, yeah, it's just you have, you have, you have options with it now.
We always like, on Rackafn, we always like to ask the questions that we feel like we want to know.
You know, when we, we always have this mantra B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-Bans of like, we do shows that we want to listen to back on the replay.
And this is definitely a one.
B-Bans, we've got a new speaker.
So this is like the last, like, blockchain thing because, you know, I didn't want to be hitting Jake with blockchain, blockchain, blockchain.
That's not why he come on.
Like, I've got a couple of questions, but we have a new speaker, B-B-B-B-B-B-
Hands up, hands up in the air.
Welcome 99, 9.9 CD slash M2.
Humble Student of the Light, seed alchemist.
Are we getting ghosted?
Can anybody hear anything?
All right.
Are we getting ghosted, bro?
Okay.
Right, Jake, let's fuck the blockchain off.
Mate, we haven't got...
Hello?
Hello, brother.
You there?
Yeah.
You're a bit ropey, bro, I don't know, whether I'm in rural like Montana or some shit.
I don't know.
Well, wait for your man getting back.
You've got the mic, bro, if you want to come back.
I don't know, you might have to jump out and jump back.
You know, it's connecting.
Right, Jake, listen, I don't think the Democrats are going to have a fucking hope in hell in these midterms.
I think we're going to see governors change.
There's a lot of like battles like the Wisconsin Supreme Court that's going on at the moment.
They're like people are just not paying attention to and that, you know.
You know, Jake, what is it going to take for us not to see a clean sweep of Republicans again in the midterms?
Generally, it's always like changed.
You know the score.
You know, American politics works, right?
You don't need to tell you.
Generally, we would say like a sweep like this.
Midterms.
There'll be some dissatisfaction.
The Democrats will get in.
They'll either take either the House or the Senate right in the midterms.
I just don't see it.
What do you think, Jake?
How does the political landscape look moving into 2026?
Let's not go any further than there, the midterms.
Well, I don't know. It really all depends. You see, if we learned anything from what happened with USAID and where the money was going, not just abroad, but in the United States as well, because it was being used to fund media in the United States as well, I believe.
Yeah.
Then what we realize is that essentially the deep state was largely Democrat or communist.
Okay.
And the Republican Party essentially had become a shell of what it once was.
Now, that being the case, the...
Situation now is that there are a number of real Republicans, real people that believe in the
Constitution, believe in the values of America. And there's also even, yes, some real Democrats that are,
and I'm not talking so much about in the House or the Senate. I'm talking about people like Tulsi Gabbard
or, you know, RFK Jr. or former Democrats, right? That are essentially stepping up and filling in the gaps
that are necessary to save the nation. If Trump...
is going to secure the federal elections,
then we are going to see very different results
than if the federal elections are left unsecure.
And I think that it also depends on how it is
that the Trump administration performs in between now
and the campaigns.
I think that we're going to see a lot of people that are going to start attempting to ride the waves that are created by the Trump administration once we begin to get into election time.
You know, that whatever it is the Trump administration does is going to create waves in the media.
And then you're going to have certain people that are going to try to ride those waves, either for or against them.
You see?
So...
I would say that as long as Trump continues what it is that he's doing now,
we are going to see, and as long as the elections are secure,
then we are going to see a tremendous shift in the dynamics of both the House and the Senate
toward the Republican.
The Democrat Party is really down and out right now, okay?
Hence Gavin Newsom's podcast, all right?
So, like, the point is, is that,
We have the opportunity.
And when I say we, I mean the American people.
We have an opportunity unlike we've ever had before.
We have leaders that will actually listen to our concerns.
Okay.
We have people in office that actually care about the little guy.
That's what I think. That's what I truly believe.
You know, and these people have a record of doing just that.
Many of them do. Okay?
So if they continue to act like they care about the little guy,
if they continue to spend our money or save our money like they care about the little guy,
then I expect a massive sweep in 2026,
especially if they secure the elections.
But if they cannot live up to those standards...
And if they create any sort of disillusionment whatsoever amongst the Republican crowd, then they leave themselves vulnerable, especially if they allow the Democrat Party to in any way, shape, or form ride the waves of, you know, BS that happens, you know, or that they try to generate.
Jake, I'll tell you what, right, I want to get this out.
So I truly believe, and I've been talking to B-Bans for a long time,
I believe this since roundabout 2016, 2017.
Tulsi Gabbard will be the first female president of the United States of America.
Yes or no?
I don't know, to be honest with you.
Okay.
Here's the thing.
This is something I want you to understand, okay?
Sometimes having somebody as the president isn't necessarily always the best place for them.
Okay?
For example, Tulsi Gabbard.
Okay?
This is a woman that has seen firsthand the effects of war.
She has seen the wounds.
She has dressed them from what I understand.
She has seen the blood on the floor.
She has seen the pain and the eyes.
Correct.
It's our hair went white.
Isn't it that our hair went white?
She went through the ringer.
And she cares.
That white streak in her hair shows that she cares, bro.
If she didn't give a shit, if she was a psychopath, then she wouldn't have that white streak.
Do you understand?
So having somebody like her that knows the cost of war as the head of American intelligence
is of paramount importance.
And the fact that she's a woman, I also believe, is of paramount importance as well.
Because women have a certain intuition that in some cases men don't always have.
They also have a certain diplomatic capability that men don't always have.
And they also have this desire to protect and nurture the home or the homeland.
Okay.
So all of these things are essential for somebody like a DNI.
Okay.
Now, if we take it a step further and we realize that she's also a fucking warrior,
that she's fought in war, like she's been on the battlefield,
you know, at least dressing, she's served her country.
She's seen the horrors of war.
Then you factor that in there. And then you factor in the idea that she knows when to fight and when not to if she's been in war. Then she's going to know when to make the right call as to whether or not the intel is good and we need to save people or if the intel is just a bunch of warhocks trying to go to war.
I love what you were saying there about the woman angle because there's an age old saying that people might not realize it.
But if women were in charge of the world, there would be no fucking world wars.
There would just be some several heated discussions every 28 days.
It's a bit of like a good casting shade, but it's not.
It's actually like a true story.
No, there would be no.
It would be every 28 days because if you're living with women, we all sync up together.
True story, though.
There would be no world wars.
There'd just be some heated discussions every 28 days.
I mean, right, Jake, we're going to wind it down because we're getting wrong off the editor and archiver.
I mean, we want to keep these spaces always.
I'm pretty bullish.
Yeah.
I'm a little bit bearish on the fact I think there are some plants within the MAGA element that are there to cause, you know, the wrong kind of like discourse.
Overall, I'm exceedingly bullish.
I don't think we're going to say anything like the Russia, Russia, Russia,
Hawks again.
You know, Trump's first term was impeded at every step.
He really couldn't do anything.
He hired really bad people.
Jake, generally speaking, generally speaking, have we won the war of common sense?
I think so.
And I think what you're asking is have we won the culture war?
And I think the answer to that is to a certain extent,
abs to fucking lootly,
there will be,
once you stretch an imagination to new lengths that can never go back to its old ways, right?
So the people have seen,
enough, right? They know. And as a collective mind, we have expanded enough. We have gotten to a point where we're really being able to recognize the propaganda now.
You know, our intention span is longer. Thank you to people like Joe Rogan or like yourselves that are doing these podcasts, right, in these longer form things.
So yes, I believe that the culture war was one. But this is what you got to keep in mind.
Well, Jake, just to be humble.
Oh, yeah, because you've got to keep it short.
I'm sorry.
Just a preamble law, it's always been the mantra that politics is downstream of culture, right?
So you win the culture war.
Okay, okay.
Well, yes, and that's what I was going to say, though.
But so what happened is that communists tried to move into our government in our country and use the government to create a new culture through government force.
Okay, and they didn't work.
It worked for a little bit in that like they tried and tried and tried, but it didn't take.
At least not in America.
It's done.
It's happened in Nazi Germany.
It happened in USS.
It happened with the USSR.
It happened with the Red Revolution in China and the CCP, right?
So it's happened before.
It didn't take in America.
And I think the reason why it didn't take it because of the Constitution.
Okay, it's because of the American value system.
It's because of the idea that we believe in God,
you're not gonna take our fucking guns.
Guess what?
I'm gonna say whatever the fuck I want.
Okay?
That attitude of Americans is what saved us.
And enough of us getting together and agreeing on that is what saved us.
Savage, Savage, Baybans.
Let's go, darling.
We've gotta keep this show.
Like, this is a classic show, this like, but,
Bavans, before we close it down, I mean, we've been waiting ages for Jake.
I've been so buzzing for this interview.
Like, Jake, you're a lovely guy.
A fucking, I know, we're not grilling you or anything tonight or anything.
We just, like, we just care about the world and about, you know,
we just want to ask, like, the questions that people have come to expect, like,
we're at FM and we do what Rackafm does, you know.
Beban's been a pleasure, hasn't it, having your man tonight, though, it's been lovely, right?
Yes, except for when he got mad at me
And he said he was going to give his
Freaking keys to his mom
But everything else...
What?
What?
What?
Yeah.
The keys, Wally Keys.
He said, I'll give it to my mom.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Oh, yeah.
Well, the thing is, look, I appreciate you guys
are trying to protect your audience.
I really do.
I'm just letting you know.
I was just, like, because I've answered this so many times.
I've answered this so many times.
And it's just like, oh, my gosh.
You know, but I didn't mean to lose my temper.
I hope I didn't convey that I did.
I have no hard feelings whatsoever.
I was playing with you.
I'm just playing with you a little bit
Oh Jake, she's messing
Listen, bro
Honestly, Jake, you know something?
You're a very, very revered part of the family for want of a better word.
Because like, we'd only just started out, you know?
We'd only been doing this show like a few months, maybe about seven, eight months or something, and then we got you on.
And it was a clutch, bro, it was an absolute touch.
It was like a scoop for us that we'd never had at that time.
And you know, Jake, you came on a second time.
We did ridiculous numbers.
We've been like 7,800 every time.
Like, dude, we highly, highly fucking appreciate you.
Like, your time.
I'm not going to lick your ass.
I mean, I would if I was gay, but I'm not gay.
So, like, I'm not going to lick your ass.
You know what I mean?
But I'm like, all right, Jake's good.
He's family.
All right.
And, mate, on that note, because we're going to have to wind down.
I really want to thank you because I think your political perspectives are so sharp,
and I said this earlier, is that every time I raise a point with you,
every time I raise a question with you, you give me a perspective I didn't have before.
Like in one way or another, whatever it is, I actually fucking learn something from these podcasts.
I every time I do it.
So that...
is invaluable.
But yes,
mate,
you as a person,
though,
you've just got a fucking
heart of Goldman.
You're a fucking nice man.
You're a good person,
mate.
You're very articulate.
You know,
you'll take on any fucking thing,
any question,
like blah,
blah, blah.
But yes, mate,
I want to personally,
Jake,
take this moment to thank you.
It's a third time
you've been on,
bro.
I mean,
what a scoop for a Rack FM.
Come on.
It was my pleasure.
Like a little series.
called the Jake series, one, two, and three.
It was my pleasure, man.
I am glad I could come back on.
I'm glad we could chat.
You know, it was fun, as always.
And I'll come on again, I promise.
It's like the trilogy, isn't it?
It's like the fucking Empire Strikes Back.
Oh, Jakey strikes back.
I've enjoyed it so much.
Right, dude, next time we'll make sure we know
are we working on like Arizona Time?
Are we working on EST?
Wherever you are in the world.
And on that note, I would just like to personally thank the audience and say a lot of you have joined and not left.
We really do appreciate that.
Make sure you are all over there following Jake.
I think a lot of us, you know, personally, what this man's been through, if anyone's been around the space since, you know, pre-2020, post-2016, the shit that Jake and others, you know, went through.
It's not fun. It's not fun at all.
Like, we went through this on the first show.
Like, his story will wake you the fuck up.
We will post out probably tomorrow, I think.
I think GMC's already up Baybans from earlier.
Finn's, like, ready to post the interview.
We'll post all three of them tomorrow.
And on that note.
And it'll be posted on Spotify too.
Yep, Spotify, iTunes, Google Podcasts.
We put Rack FM everywhere,
whatever your favourite their streaming platform is.
but i just want to say i am absolutely overjoyed that we had this which been in the pipeline
for months man pre-election for like like literally like a few days before the election i was like
dude if trump wins you've got to come back on he's like all right all right all right and you know
he's a busy man it takes time and so we're right now at a point an inflection point in history
that's really important right we're starting to see all these rogue judges go like
We need to be on top of this people.
They don't be afraid to be political and be overtly political.
You know, if you go to work and you're scared about speaking all about your viewpoints,
like you're doing the wrong thing.
because there's other people like you.
And if you don't speak out overtly and express exactly what you think,
you're not playing your part in human civilization.
You're not filling in like aspect number two.
Personal responsibility of libertarians live by the court.
Personal responsibility number one, civic duty number two.
And that's what we're out here doing.
So yes, B-Bans, Jake.
Red Eye
our raider queen down there
I want to thank you all
and I want to say a good night
and God bless
it is very late in Bangkok
you've been absolutely amazing
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