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RAC FM🦝Sponsored by Alphagrowth.io😎The Great Debate🇬🇧🇺🇸
Recorded: Aug. 22, 2025 Duration: 2:33:13Space Recording
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so people we're about to start again we had so many dms of people like we had 14 dms of people
trying to join that couldn't join couldn't fucking hear like something is fucking
going on with twitter spaces like i can't deal with this can we not just fucking do a fucking
show for once please for the love of god for the love of mankind no can i just do a show in peace no technical issues elon
hey listening naylon please for the love of god i a cams back come i hope you can hear us
mate give us an emoji thumbs up if you can if you are right now
because like we've had loads of people at the bail it ah yeah i can hear me i i i
fucking mate we've had a restart i'm pissed off like let me tell these consider twerking
jesus man i hate twitter spaces sometimes
man I hate Twitter spaces sometimes hate it man and we've just and I'm just ruined I was
freestyling for like 15 minutes and I was just pure riffing like 15 20 minutes before they came
in and now we've lost that one of them we I'll have to get Finn to join them together my life it said 14 people joined the last space right and there was me b-bounds uh red eye
uh fairy king was in for a bit then he said he couldn't hear and then i saw you jump in and
jump back out and so he couldn't get in either so that's like what uh six people and it said 14 joined
my life will i retweet this out bro just fired a second one back up
fuck man i'm fucking sick of it honestly i'll throw twitter in the fucking canal like
fucking jesus oh i'm so angry right now i hate when that happens when you got a big and planned
there you go nice red eye red eye apparently it's working son
let's see i'm so annoyed when you're like gonna kick off a big one and then this happens and it
just ruins the vibe like all right we'll have a good space like you know we'll continue blah blah
blah but we've just lost like i had a freestyle waiting for you comes to come in you know what i
mean all right 15 20 minute freestyle and then i'm just
got it's lost it's lost to history are you back in me yeah yeah oh you're perfect now i can hear
you perfect nice so mate did you hear what i was saying about the tale of two cities now
uh no no no not initially i'm pretty sure like trump's playing a mad game here
you're like like okay so i would pose the question to you this has been like the topic of the con
vote tonight or like not just the topic but you know lots of things but so can you give me
can you give me the non-american rate of the fucking pikey in bangkok can you give me a reason
of why dc and why now so why didn't he do dc two months ago why didn't he do dc when the ellia
riots was kicking off why didn't he do dc on the 21st of january like why dc why now uh well there's no i guess there's no
riots going on elsewhere in the country and so if there is a time to deploy national guard
to dc i guess it's better to do that when they're not needed elsewhere but they didn't they didn't
use any so california's got a massive massive national guard they didn't use any other national
guards from different states for cali they used the marines out of that desert place the dogs or
whatever they call them he put in some marines to guard the federal buildings which is perfectly
within his rights
but they didn't use national guards from other states uh they only used the cali national guard
because the cali national guard is actually quite huge obviously given the size of the state right
uh but so right it's coincided it's quite interesting how it's coincided with uh national
you know the national restaurant week
yeah which is next week right you know that
yeah can you hear me can you hear me all right still or is this bad
no mate you're fine you're absolutely fine no you're perfect i just threw in my headphones just
wanted to make sure i wasn't miss you oh dude you're probably
better than you were before so i didn't realize that the national restaurant week is quite a thing
and washington dc's always been like one of the flag bearers of your country for this
uh and he made a comment so did you see when he trump went and meet the law enforcement and
the troops and all it yesterday when he took them burgers and pizzas not have you seen that or not no
oh dude I watched the whole thing that yeah I was dude I watched the part amazing he's
just walking around on the mic like in front of like about 300 400 law enforcement or like
they've all got the jackets on ATFD like HSI like that all and he's got like the national guards in there some of the marines are in there and he's just
walking around like freestyling on the mic but he took them loads of burgers that the white house
made and then he ordered pizza from like his favorite pizza place and he went and seen them
so this is a follow-up from uh pete xf jd vance and stephen miller
going out to union station on wednesday did you say that or not
did you know that those three went out to union station kind of
as bold of them no i didn't see that i i've been to union station though before a few times so i
know what it looks like yeah that's where uh carter lives up that way doesn't he if i remember rightly
carter lives in minnesota does he yeah i thought he was oh he might sorry no he was dry that's
right he was driving to dc the time when he was on the podcast
before yep yep joe spaces up that's right he was driving to dc and he was talking about it
uh mate it was quite a spectacle steven miller went laid into the protesters because it was
protesters in union station you could hear the like heckles and that steven miller laid into
them so much
pete hegseth and jd vance were standing there next room like trying not to laugh you could
see them like proper holding in their laughs it was brilliant so they went out to meet the
troops and everything on wednesday the three of them and then trump was like i'm having some of
that action so portus patrol you know pa poor patrol they're calling it porter's patrol
trump went out dude trump went out yesterday and he killed it but he did he did talk about
national restaurant week yeah i'm looking at the event uh right now just seeing where they were
talking if you if you go to Forbes you know Forbes on YouTube I
like if you click on Forbes like I got the full thing on Forbes Forbes breaking news is one of
me more yeah important notifications you know I any e-freestyle he just went out and he freestyled
but he mentioned that he's had loads of calls from like people in dc senators house republic he's had loads of
people business people getting in touch with him saying like we've never been out around dc on a
night for like four years three and a half four years almost five years and like i've been out
four times for dinner this week so this coincides incidentally that's what i'm saying is it an incidentally thing
it's national restaurant week and allegedly national restaurant weeks always been a big
massive thing in dc so like my my question to you originally though was okay well why washington dc
and why now like why didn't he do this on january the? Like, the man's got impeccable timing.
The man knows when to strike.
And like the tweet said earlier, a tale of two cities.
I think we're about to see some carnage on the streets of London.
I really do.
The Notting Hill Carnival.
Yeah, well, I'm wondering.
I asked you about the flag stuff yesterday.
I was very curious about that.
And why it's problematic for people to fly their flag.
I truly don't get that.
I get how it could upset people, but fuck, who gives a shit?
Maybe that's the issue.
It's like England, you got your laws against upsetting people online and i guess in person you can go to zero for that like is that the reason
like people just claim oh this is upsetting me or it's uh causing me stress and then people get
you know in trouble because i've got six i've got six words for you bro got six words for you
and blighty rises to its
feet you can't keep us down man hey you can try but you'll feel dude we're living under commies
man like we have got a proper commie full-on government man we are in real shit we've had so many cool victories
this week though so you know about the uh the protests in epping that's been going on for weeks
and weeks right in epping forest in uh essex yeah outside of london okay so essentially the the the
the pressure of the protests and the local council getting together they've been able to
close this hotel down and it's caused a a total domino effect across the country you've got all
these like reform councils and tory councils now that are going and like petitioning to the high
court to get these uh immigrant illegal immigrant hotels closed down dude some of the listeners
hotels closed down dude some of the listeners 450 pound a night you know in the britannia in canary
wharf there's illegal immigrants who've come over on a boat throwing their passport in the channel
on the way over so they can't be identified or like you know and they're coming in is economic
migrants but illegal immigrants and they're fucking brought in from the boat the border force are going to pick them up on the dinghies bringing them in put them in 450
450 pound a night fucking sweets in the britannia hotel and that so they've just had enough right
and these immigrants these illegal scabby illegal immigrants from fucking north africa and that
they've been getting out and they've been doing like sexual assaults and it just came to a head it got to a point where enough was enough so the council took the
government to the high court the other day uh when tuesday wednesday and lost like if you just google
or you go on twitter it's called the bell hotel in epping e double p ing epping or what's known as epping forest in
essex but it's epping epping town the bell hotel it's been a monumental kick in the face to the
government and now the government's panicking listen to this they realize that there's going
to be this like this is a watershed case it's going to have this massive domino effect right
across all these illegal hotels across the uk do you know what they want to do they've got 32 000 let me repeat that they've got
32 000 illegal immigrants in these fucking hotels all over the uk and now they want to find uh five and a half thousand uh hmos uh which is uh hmo is a house of multiple occupancy
where they like take like a normal house where you'd have a family in and they'll fucking
segregate it all blah blah blah and they'll like put like five six people in there they're called
hmos right houses of multiple occupancy all the landlords in the uk man they've been selling their
souls for so long they've been selling the property to serco which is like a different convo circle right if
you know about them yeah the serpent company uh that goes that's that goes deep but all they've
been renting them out on these like five-year contracts where they get like it fully refurbished
and blah blah blah they get like three times uh the normal rent money
so now essentially the government is saying okay we've got 32 000 illegal immigrants in these
hotels the high court judgment went against us like the other day it's probably going to set
the president right across the entire uk we need to go and find like five and a half thousand HMOs so dude you could what you've
got to think about is that the dumping these people who haven't even been through the asylum
process they don't know anything about them they don't know any criminal history right they don't
know where like they know nothing about them right they're coming over with no passports because
they're throwing them in the fucking channel right that's how they know they'll be able to claim asylum coming in undocumented right they're putting four five six of these
fucking young fighting age fucking men single men because they're not coming over women and children
if anyone that doesn't know since uh 2018 uh all of the illegal immigrants that have arrived in the UK through the boats, right,
system over the channel, 75% of them have been single, young, fighting age males.
Now, the government's got to go and find, by the way, we've got a massive housing crisis
in the uk the government has to go now find five and a half thousand properties that
they can convert into hmos houses of multiple occupancies right there's already stories in
portsmouth and other places of like families getting kicked out brit British families, right? Single mothers and that, yeah? Being kicked out
of houses so that the landlord can basically do a contract with Serco and just rake in like loads
more money. It's absolutely shocking beyond belief. And this is why, this is what's really
interesting about, you know, the people in America that want to kick off with America.
And at least you've got somebody in charge that's trying to make sense of the bullshit.
In the UK, they've got a little bonfire and they're just pouring like gallons of petrol and just wanting to watch the world burn.
It's a very, very, very frightening state of affairs at the moment like red eye.
Well, I believe it. Yeah yeah i'm watching some of these i mean yeah people are uh people are hot and uh it seemed like issues
continued being uh or continued occurring and i don't know so what do you think what do you what do you think about
operation raise the colors this whole flag thing like if you talk about civil disobedience do you
not think this is like at the highest level of civil disobedience without kind of breaking any
laws yeah i can't believe that's even like you flying a flag is considered civil disobedience.
That's crazy, in my opinion.
Oh, no, it's not civil disobedience if you fly in the pride flag
or the Ukrainian flag or the Palestinian flag.
The only issue is because the door won't any sense of nationalism.
The only problem that they've got and the flags they're removing,
by the way, Tower Hamlets, dude, was swamped all the way down the whole main street tower hamlets a burrow in london
swamped with uh palestinian flags do you know this is how bad this is right the uh the guy that's in
charge of tower hamlets right which is a borough of london right the borough chief yeah he was
actually convicted convicted of fraud in 2015 he's a very bad man but do you know when all the palestinian marches and everything
were going on uh the borough council demanded that the kids right you're talking like kids five six
years old be taken out of the public schools and marched on the streets along with the palestinian marches
in birmingham city center where the city hall is right the showed them today on a video i'll go
and grab it for you raising the pakistani flag two weeks ago when it was pakistani liberation day
they painted the entire national library in a pakistani but British people can't display St George's cross
and the Union Jack now do you understand where this is going well okay can so where did that
prevention of flying the what did you call it what cross is it Tower Hamlets you mean Tower Hamlets
Tower Hamlets is like ground zero for the the whole flag wars there operation
raise hashtag because it's on twitter everybody my american friends go and look hashtag operation
raise the colors and it's colors with a u obviously because we're british that's what's
sweeping the nation at the minute but you said the union jack flag and then what was the other one
you said?
Oh, the St. George's Cross, yeah. The red and white.
That's what it was, yeah.
One of them's England and one of them's
the UK. Or Britain, I should say.
That's great. Is it...
Does it have some, like, weird...
Is it, like, the...
Similar to me flying, like, a
Confederate flag?
Or does it have, like no no saint george saint
george is our national so you do know that we've got great britain and we've got the union jack
right that's raining i'll go in so you know we've got uh great britain we've got the union jack right
Do you know the difference between Britain and Great Britain or not?
you know you do know the difference between britain and great britain or not
Yeah, well, we talked about this last week.
Right, so we've got the Union Jack, which is effectively the union, right, of everything.
Each country has its own flag.
And each country has its own patron saint.
So we have St George.
We celebrate St George's Day on april 23rd right uh
you've got uh saint david in uh wales and then you've got saint uh saint andrew in obviously
andrew me you know saint andrew in scotland each country and obviously northern ireland's got its
own flag right so each country's got its own
distinct flag because when you meet people in the UK and you say oh where are you from I mean if you
hear a Scottish accent you know they're from Scotland if you hear a Welsh accent you know
they're from Wales right you pretty much know where they're from but all of us in the UK we
don't clarify ourselves as being British you you never introduce yourself as being british in
the uk to someone i don't when i'm abroad out to you am i always english or am i british i'm always
english first you've heard me say this many times before right yeah i always clarify myself as
english the rest of it is a union it's an amalgamation of the way that the islands are set up and the islands work, right?
So there's no racial undertones.
There's nothing, Red Eye, other than an outpouring of nationalism.
And you know what's happened?
It's happening.
They raise the colours, right?
Operation Raise the Colours.
It's happening in Scotland.
It's happening in Wales. And they're raising the Operation Raise the Colours. It's happening in Scotland. It's happening in Wales.
And they're raising the Union Jack
and the Welsh Dragon in Wales, right?
St Andrew's Cross, the blue flag with the white on it,
the Scottish one.
They're raising that with the Union Jack, like in Scotland.
It's not like Scotland's raising St George's flag, right?
St George's flag belongs to the English.
And that's the way that it is we're
all british but we have definitive uh historical significances and cultures where you know when i'm
in the uk i and i'll meet someone from wales they're welsh i'm english we're both british yeah
but there's a differential but different countries even though they're fairly
borderless they are different countries right for example scotland even has its own currency
right the scottish banknote that's a fucking joke as well but there's no racial like what
you said about the confederate flag it's absolutely the opposite it's nothing to do with anything like that whatsoever so can you imagine can you
imagine right in birmingham that's being ruled by a muslim mayor and a muslim council that are out
there in the town square raising the fucking flag of pakistan and painting the library for pakistan
independence day paint the library in green and white and black right in the flag, right?
And then when people want to raise
the St. George's flag, right?
They're going out there actively and taking them down.
Dudes have never been able to empty the bins
or clean the bins in Birmingham
for like fucking six months.
Can't even take away the rubbish.
Did you not say the pothole thing?
Do you know when the dude
the English flag is...
That's fucking hilarious.
It's so funny.
Mate, how funny is that? That couldn't fill its pothole in for seven years the dude paints an english flag in and they're coming
and fill the pothole the next day you can't me you can't make this up i do want to welcome our
new guests have we got babe hands back because's fixed itself. We have got a space now. Okay, we're in business.
Babe Hands, are you back, darling?
Is she back?
No, she's cooking her green meat, isn't she?
She's cooking them green.
What was it?
Flaps.
Did she say it?
What did she say?
Do you want to look at me?
Like stingray flaps?
It looks good, though.
I know it does.
It looks really good, though.
I do want to welcome Scott, but we have got a hand up.
And it's Max.
So you know what Max is like.
He's dying to come in here.
Max, the debate is just about to start, brother.
How are you doing?
Are you okay?
Good morning.
Doing great.
I hear you guys are talking about Wales.
And I want to say good morning to all the Adam Wales out there.
Anyone vibe coding on the hub um by the way adam is my
number one pick for september um i'm leveraged along on it and um i'm gonna be a whale myself
have you ever heard moved transition right there
do you have you ever the joke about uh the dude in the bar and uh he says to the these
this two big fat woman are fucking sitting along the bar you know and he says uh he says are you
english and they go no no wheels he went i i thought so so i'm i'm really i'm really interested in uh scott and max here and obviously you red eye but
we did have some kickoff and some heated debates we'll get bella in because she was on the debate
with five on it the other day uh let's well i don't know what's happening with b-bans she's
probably like i say messing around with our stingray flaps. Her green stingray flaps.
Hey, good morning, Scott.
How are you doing, brother?
You okay?
Yeah, man.
I'm hanging in.
I lost all my money on the Kanye token.
So I'm still kind of recovering from that. Yeah.
Fucking space.
We'll never learn, will it?
We'll never, ever learn.
God, I love Kripka.ka well at least your audio is okay to
do so that's a bonus now i didn't i saw it hit like 2 billion or 3 billion market cap at its peak
something like that yeah it was like three dollars the token man now it's 65 cents
now's the time to get in with both hands, guys, because that's my number two pick.
Number two pick
for September. Number one, we got
Adam. Number two, we've got
Kanye token. And number
three, you're going to have to wait for the end of the show
for that gem.
Dude, what do you...
You're going like...
You're like going Billy Mays
with Max, dude.
What are you doing with this?
You know, Scott, you know you said
I'll phone me, baby.
I'll phone me out of this account.
Scott, you know you said it reached
$3 billion, so when it did
reach $3 billion and then bombed, did you
not see all of the tweets saying
Trump went from $3 billion to
$15 billion, the entire
fucking CT was lit up with it's another Trump, it's another Trump, like $3 billion to $15 billion, the entire fucking CT was lit up with.
It's another Trump.
It's another Trump.
Like $3 billion to $15 billion.
And I was like, bye-bye.
See you later.
Rugged.
Yeah, man, because people have their heads so far up their ass in the crypto space, man.
This is low-hanging fruit to just go completely savage on them, man.
You know what?
I want their money.
I think it would be better in my hands than their hands.
And they make it so goddamn easy.
Grow the pie.
All I'm saying, you got to grow the pie.
Everybody gets rich.
But you got to place your bets now.
Now is the time.
Bitcoin is selling off.
There's a huge rotation into memes.
And you got to get in there with both hands.
Take my money.
I can't even listen to you.
You fucking giant douchebag.
I can't even listen to you.
I think it's good, dude.
I think that's a great character.
Keep your eye on my other special pick, Tia, the Celestia token.
special pick TIA, the Celestia token,
you're going to see by early Q1 2026,
there's going to be a huge rotation into data layer blockchains
with tokens that are held exclusively by insiders.
That's going to be the meta going into 2026,
but we're not there yet.
Wait a minute.
TIA's not even making any revenue, is it?
Or what revenue it is making is bullshit.
It's not generating any...
Revenue is what I always say.
You got to get in there and you got to buy,
buy, buy. You rotate
from Bitcoin into Kanye
and then you hold that for a few months. You stake it.
You lock it up and then you take the profits
roll it right into Tia.
Let's call it January 8th is going to be the bottom.
That's what I'm going to buy.
Max, can I?
Oh, I love it, this guy.
Max, can I tell you something?
And then by Q2, you put your feet up, and you're on easy street.
You get your drink in your hand with the umbrella,
and you ride it into summer.
Max, can I tell you something?
What if I don't drink drinks that require a little umbrella?
I mean, come on.
Everybody has their advice.
If you want to do lines of blow off your desk,
your mahogany desk that you bought with your Tia profits, that's up to you it's a free country unless you live in pakistan or england
i like them cocktails where you can fall in love with an orangutan me like i love loads of them
mad like shit in me cocktail like i give as much shit in me cocktail as you can put in like better
speaking of loads i just bought a shitload, a shitload of Power Token.
That's the new blue chip project launched by the Gelato team.
Gelato team just rolls out of bed and launches blue chips.
And that's the load that I'm going to buy today.
It's recorded, Joe.
This is a recorded space, by the way.
I don't think you understand it, Joe.
I'm sorry, Max. I don't think you understand it joe uh and i i'm sorry max i don't think you get it this is your character all right this should be your tweeter this should be
your goddamn live streams man we need more entertainment and crypto and you are fucking
killing me man this is beautiful i appreciate that this is the 15th time you've heard the
character and the first time you've understood it.
No, I've always understood it.
I just don't understand why you don't lean into it.
That's your show right there.
I forget about this account from time to time.
You just need to go live and Billy Mays the shit
out of all of these god-awful tokens.
That's what you need to do, man.
And then sell Chipotle away to get the bloodstains out of your underpants.
Welcome to the Max Candlegreen show,
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I will tell you how to get rich.
I think Max should become
the new CEO of Cracker Barrel.
In my honest opinion,
Max, that could
do a lot worse than hire you as the new
fucking CEO and sack that woke
bitch now.
Love me some Cracker Barrel.
Not now you don't the trend
but you know you know they've just changed the logo and they've took the old man away right
and i love it it's more it's more um gender and race neutral i think it really speaks to
power and um everyone feels good when they see that logo. Dude, she's wiped...
Dude, she's wiped over
a quarter of a billion off the
fucking stock value in a couple of days, man.
That's fucking unbelievable.
You gotta buy. Open up a Robinhood account
today.
So, Bella's here.
I'm mad, man, right there.
Bella's here, and I want Bella to
confirm. Bella, listen,
you can't debate people who are Debating on emotions
Rather than facts right Bella you know
She knows
Oh god no you can't
You can't they are stuck in a cave
And they don't want to leave
Their cave they have
No other viewpoints and okay
They step outside the cave They get blinded
And it scares them
Yeah, we had this
You not believe this, Bella
But we had this the following night
With five on it
I mean, God bless them
I love them all
I've got no problem with anybody
But when the emotions are bubbling up
You can kind of You can kind of like always do over
you can kind of like get a vibe where people are not interested in facts
uh b banz is back are you back b banz
or she said she was back but she probably isn't i just made the most listening she's been listening
for a while like i made i made the most basic of statements, right?
I were five on it the other day when he was, not five on it,
flan, sorry, when he was going mad.
And I made the most basic of statements that the US Marines
are a separate branch of the military to the Navy.
And your man, he was just getting mad right and i was like but dude
you do rate like you do acknowledge and he just wouldn't acknowledge and i'm like but bro i'm
dealing in facts like i can tell you when the marines were created it was within less than a
month of when the navy was created do you know the story about john paul jones and i i was just
trying to give some like basic facts but the emotions
were running too high that like facts don't matter and it's quite like i don't know what
to say but like didn't you know if you're just gonna scream then you might as well be
in them you know groups of woke left protesters on columbia university wearing
hajibs or whatever they call them and waving palestinian flags and just screaming from
the river to the sea like like debates we've called this the great debate though like joking
on like tongue-in-cheek because of this week but like you cannot debate something right and not be like logical factual like you can't just be
get totally have this like massive sense of like animosity anger real like sort of putrid
fucking angst like again like i, whoa. So that's why we
wanted to... I'll get B-Bands of course.
That's why we wanted to have a space
called The Great Debate. I'd hope
to get a lot more people in.
And for people just to be
rational a bit, you know?
Dude, we just did a show on this last night.
We just did a show
on this last night. It was so good
that I... uh, to she
always on the lookout for us is saying, you might want to watch what you're saying. Papa government's
coming. Look, the left argues with the motion, the left argues with the motion because that's what
resonates. And in the, uh, you know, the little, uh, zero real comprehension or everybody wants everything fed to them in 60 seconds.
That is an effective tactic. It has always been an effective tactic and it will continue to be
an effective tactic. When you have truth, you argue truth. And when you don't, you pound the
desk. And that's exactly what they do is they simply get up there and pound the desk. It resonates, people
get up, they get fired up, you give
them the little slogans. I mean
dude, this is so Orwellian
that I'm shocked that
people are not at least picking up on this.
Do you know
I'll tell you what, dude
so, you know
I love these people
loads, right? I regard them as good friends yeah? I've been speaking them for these people loads right I regard them as like good
friends yeah I've been speaking for years yeah I regard them as good people
yeah and you know there's always good people and bad people but I'm like in my
head I'm having these arguments and I'm like I've got Nino Brown like am I my
brother's keeper you know and I'm thinking no I'm not you know that
obviously in New Jack City it's like yes I am I'm my brother's keeper yes I am I'm my brother's keeper uh no I'm not like and I tried to explain
to Flan very easily and very distinctly that Trump ain't breaking any laws like i was like you realize like under the uh posse commentus act
like 1878 uh like obviously after the civil war when they got the together and they wanted to
stop any marauding you know militias and marines down south blah blah blah i was like you know
trump is that he hasn't used insurrection act like he's he's he's not uh he hasn't he hasn't overruled congress
like everything trump is doing within washington dc within the realm of his power right
is legit if you notice there was all these legal challenges to all the other stuff that he was
doing under the uh alien enemies act of uh 1796 uh all the stuff that he was doing there was all these
injunctions like you know a district
judge was given a national injunction
right and it was one after another after
do you notice there's been no court
cases over what's happening in Washington D.C.
no court cases at all
yeah because
you know what we
tried to do a show on this nobody cared
or we don't resonate and that's all is. We're finding our way again.
But it was like double-double tough even trying to discuss it, man,
because you're asking for people to...
You basically have to explain every single step.
And when you do, it just takes too long to get there.
It's like going to a crypto conference and listen to devs talk.
You're just bored, you know, at five seconds in.
But all they do is real, real simple.
I see it, Joe.
I'm just going to do a real, real, real quick one here.
All right, here's what I need, Robo.
I'm going to ask you three questions, all right?
And your answer is either yes or no.
All right, are you ready?
I'm down. Let go ok a jet plane
can fly from New York to Paris
that's the question
what's the definition of a jet plane
a fucking plane that has jet engines
alright listen
big ones big ones yes a fucking plane that has jet engines. All right, listen. Big ones.
Big ones.
Oh, you're talking about big.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay.
So a jet plane can fly.
Yes.
Okay.
A jet plane has jet engines.
Yes.
A jet engine can fly from New York to Paris.
Of course not.
See, now this is what I'm talking about.
And this is what they use. It's called the fallacy of division. That's it. Of course not. the board fallacy of division is the absolute greatest weapon that any public speaker could ever have particularly when it comes to debate or ginning up emotion it is simple really really
simple is trump taking over why uh did trump deploy the uh national guard to the district
of columbia yes or no yes yes he did uh but he's got he's got the right he's got the right to do that though
under the law though like not nothing that he did brought the law yeah but what we're saying
i'm going to argue it from the other side i'm going to go max here on this one uh did trump
deploy the military to the district of columbia yes, like I said, the posse of
commemoration.
26 years of
that.
Wait a minute. He's allowed
to use them to guard federal
property.
You're still not getting it.
You're not getting my point.
Did he deploy
the military to Washington,
D.C.?
No, he deployed a certain branch of the military to Washington, D.C.
Okay.
Did he deploy any portion of the U.S. military to the District of Columbia?
Yes, but with very, very basic capabilities With very, very basic Right? Capabilities
Very, very basic
So I know
The law, because I fucking researched
And I teach this shit
I've been teaching American history for nine years
Like, their
Capacity
Is very, very, very
Limited
I'm about to talk over you until you mute me.
You're not getting my point.
No, no, I do.
I'm arguing this from the fucking left.
Let me have my point.
Is the military currently operating in the District of Columbia?
Well, yes, and it always has done.
Okay.
Depends.
Define operating.
No, no.
If you want me to play your game. No, no, Scott. Noine operating. No, no. If you want me to play your game.
No, no, Scott.
Scott.
No, no, no, no.
Scott, if you want me to play your game, define operating.
Are they on the streets in Washington, D.C.?
In what capacity?
On the streets in what capacity?
In an active duty status.
No, not whatsoever.
How much time have you spent
in the U.S. military?
None whatsoever.
Okay, I've been in there 26 years.
I think I can speak with a little bit
of authority what they're doing,
why they're doing, and what their orders say.
Have you got the law on your side?
I have
the Uniform Code of Military Justice on my side on this one, man.
I'm just asking if you've got the law on your side.
And in this case, Trump does.
I'm telling you how it will be argued from the other side.
Well, I know that.
That's why I said define operating.
Exactly.
That's why I said define operating, right? That's why I said define operating, right?
Do they have arrest power?
No, not whatsoever. Not at the moment.
They would only have arrest power under the Insurrection Act of 1906, under the Posse Commentus Act of 1878 that they're operating under.
Now they've got no powers whatsoever to act like civilian
police not whatsoever the only thing wait a minute the no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no So, like, they can, at the moment, the only thing that the Marines are capable of doing is what they're doing in LA,
and is to help secure federal buildings.
That's the only thing that they can do in that capacity.
That's exactly why he sent the squadron of Marines to LA.
It's literally the only provision that's written in that act of 1878 because the insurrection one
is quite a sweeping one and it was done before the civil war so after the civil war they were
very worried about retribution down south and a lot of other stuff so the new act like i said Like I said, this posse commentus complimentus was actioned or authorized in 1878.
And that's the one that kind of gives like, it's very weird because he does have like
some sweeping powers, but also there is a congressional constitutional authority that
also sits in the balance, but he has got powers
to do certain things like guard federal buildings, which is what they're doing.
Can they physically put their hands on a civilian?
Nope.
Not at the moment.
They can under the Insurrection Act of 1809, but they can't.
No, they can't at the moment.
They can't.
Because the Insurrection Act has not been invoked, so the can't put hands on civilians no then why are they there
to provide extra support for the federal buildings so that the national guard can actually be out on
the streets doing what they're supposed to be doing So they can't physically stop me from doing anything.
That's your argument, right? I can walk
right by them. No, no, no, no, no, no.
They're there to protect the federal
buildings. So if you
made... But they can't
put their hands on me.
Well, what happened in LA?
Wait a minute. What happened in LA?
You're pivoting.
We're not going to pivot off.
We're addressing this one little point right here.
Can they put their hands on me?
No, not at the moment.
Not under current legal conditions, no.
Then why are they there?
Because they're guarding the federal buildings, right?
So that the National Guard can put hands on you.
So they can't physically put their hands on me,
which means I can walk right by
them. That's what you're saying,
right?
Not necessarily, because
they are...
No, no, they are essentially
the last line of defense.
I know where you're going with this. I know where you're
twisting it. They are essentially
the last line of defense.
They are the fuck around and find out mob, right?
There are layers in front of them.
There are layers in front of them.
Well, no, but if it got to a point where they were required to put their hands on them,
the Insurrection Act would have probably already been called for and invoked.
But currently, you're changing the entire premise currently not on the con they're there to just ensure that the federal
buildings remain secure at all times and it's quite the the language in the bill is quite broad
as well when it talks about like up evil uh it's quite like a broad thing but the idea is that
there will always be like a layer of protection in front of the marines that are there which is
exactly what happened in earlier exactly what happened in earlier the national guard no no
he didn't send in the marines right for quite a while the national guard went in first the national
guard couldn't do anything on the streets
car ambassador ordered the lapd to stand down right so the national guard were too busy defending the
federal buildings to then be able to do anything with a crowd dispersal and crowd control so
therefore when trump brought in those marines out of the desert the crazy right they came in they guarded the
federal building therefore the national guard was then able to then go out and create crowd
dispersal and crowd control uh situations so like it's it's like i i i don't know why i mean i get
why you're twisting it because you talked about the left earlier and blah blah blah right i know
you talked about the left earlier and blah blah blah right i know but there is there is like a
chain of how shit works here right there is a fucking chain right are you no are you telling me
how it works in the united states no no well dude i'm only going off the laws i've read
right literally i'm only gonna so the marines the marines can only put hands on people properly put hands on people or act like a civilian police force uh under a certain
statute of the insurrection act whereas it's not the insurrection act that's being used at the
moment whatsoever and he's actually washington dc obviously you know, as a federal entity, is a little bit different, right?
You know, it's a little bit different.
Yes, it's literally laid out in the Constitution.
Ten square miles, Washington, D.C., it is treated, it should be, and it was up until 1978, treated as any other federal installation.
And that means a bay, that means armories the same way, arsenals, the same way that we protect our missile silos that's what it was 1978 they had it over to civilian
governance and a civilian police force and it only took um what about a generation to turn it from
effectively the safest place in the world to the most dangerous place in the world and bell was
great because she pulled up all of those numbers for me.
So all I'm doing is making the point, and you were talking about it,
and this is, in fact, a great debate.
What is actually happening here and how are they going to spin it?
I'm telling you how they're going to spin it.
I'm literally laying it out for you.
The main governing legislation, like I said,
it's called the Posse Commitus.
So C-O-M-I-T-A-T-U-S.
Posse Commitus Act.
Posse Commitatus.
There you go, right.
Act of 1878, right?
But that can be overruled by the Insurrection Act.
But that one, right, the P posse one obviously is very very strict
like really really heavily uh probits uh probits the like use of any part of like the army to to
execute any kind of like domestic law right but the insurrection does overrule it however however
under that act there are like certain things or that like the marines and stuff can do
so the national guard is a very very very different like uh so a state once like texas could
ring up trump and say look we think we've got an insurrection we need
you to send in the marines and trump would have to do that all right and also under that one uh
obviously under the uh insurrection act as well you can bring them in i believe right to enforce like federal laws when uh there's unlawful obstructions that make it
impractical to be able to go through like normal like judicial means so it's when judicial means
got but the thing is is that the the insurrection act is like the hardcore one and it's only enacted
in times of like real shit this other act right is that like you've just said
the posse what is it called again go on posse commentatus posse commentatus there you go
that's the one that is the rule and government body kind of at the minute and that is essentially
within the framework that trump is like working right now though like trump is not breaking the law and you can tell this because there would have been a flurry of
injunctions going out all over I mean George Bosberg he's in DC right the the the fire
court dude he would have been the first one to be put an injured but they can't there's
no there's nothing there's no law on the books right to to see what trump is doing
in washington is wrong now there's a philosophical argument this may be a social construct or a
cultural argument or a political well of course bell isn't about to drop a nuke on you, bro. So watch this.
All right.
So, Scott, because we're talking about the National Guard and we're talking about the military being in D.C.
and they have been sent out to L.A.
No, not the military.
No, no, no, not the military.
The Marines, by definition, because the Marines are a special case.
They're a separate case because the Marines were originally voiced in the Insurrection Act.
So it's very, very different to the Army, the Air Force or the Navy in the Insurrection Act.
insurrection so okay the marine corps being a sister branch that reports to the department of
the navy does fall under usb does fall into the u.s military so yeah yeah but bella were you there
the other day wait a minute were you there the other day right wait a minute no no you weren't
there the day after we had this discussion so they are a separate bunch branch they do share they do share
some budgetary constraints and administrative uh overseeing but they are a separate branch there
are six branches within the u.s military right the army the navy the air force the course guard
yeah space force and the marines they are a separate entity even though they obviously
share some things they are not under the purview of the navy they are not they do share the douche stop stop stop I'm going to address this
alright as a 26 year Navy
vet let me let me give you
let me lay this out for you here a little
bit Pase Comentatus applies
to the federal military
now there's federal military and there is
state guard these are different
entities the Marine Corps
does not have a department of the Marine
Corps it all falls under the Navy.
This is absolute fact.
It falls under the U.S.
I didn't mention that.
I mentioned the Insurrection Act, though.
I didn't mention the possible one.
I mentioned the Insurrection Act.
And I'm giving you some clarity on this.
On the replay, though, I mentioned the Insurrection Act.
I didn't see the new one.
I said the Insurrection Act, the original one.
When there is no National Guard for the Navy, the Navy is in fact federal all the way across
the board. And what that means is that we can operate outside of the continental U.S.,
outside of American borders. We cannot operate inside American borders in the event that they
deploy anybody in here. because yes, there are cases
where the federal military can be deployed even under the Posse Comitatus Act, but we cannot touch
anybody and we cannot have bullets. So even if you see them up there with all of their rifles
and their heavy equipment and all that, there's nothing in the chamber that is deaf that is that is very well
defined in the posse commentatus act period that's been there's been several occasions wait a minute
there's been several occasions of when marines have been on american soil with live ammunition
uh hurricane katrina was one the san francisco earthquake of 19 or five or six was another one uh there
you cannot tell me that there have not been times when marines uh have not had live ammunition on
american soil that's nah i'm saying that i've been deployed out there three times inside the
continental u.s and on no point did i have a round in the chamber or did I have a round
on me. I'm saying this from personal experience. I understand the internet is great and we can look
up and we can, because who would write something down if it wasn't true on the internet, right?
That's just madness. I'm saying from my personal experience, the times that I have been their
boots on ground, we were not issued ammunition. We could have our weapons, but they were clubs. We were not issued ammunition.
And at no time were we allowed to put our hands on a civilian. It simply didn't happen inside our
gates, military bases, arsenals, all that other stuff, babe, we are locked loaded and we have
free reign to do whatever the fuck we want. But outside of those gates, we had no authority.
None.
None whatsoever.
We were simply there as a deterrent.
Meaning that, oh my God, the military's out.
But there was dick that we could do.
Now with that being said, even the National Guard, okay, their job is literally to be out there and protecting the U.S. against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
And the qualifications for being domestic terrorists aren't that high.
aren't that high. Now, when I did do two years in the Minnesota National Guard, I was deployed
twice. And on both of those occasions, I had four fully loaded magazines that were going out there
with me. Different between state and state guard and federal military, just so you know, at no
point are the Marines under anything but but federal jurisdiction and i'm pretty
sure that's probably the point you were trying to make they will always be under federal jurisdiction
the same way that the united states navy is under federal jurisdiction 100 whereas like the national
guard can come under a governor's a state governor's jurisdiction or the president's discretion under the insurrection act.
Right.
But the state guard can be deployed at any time for any reason by the governor
of the state.
It's literally, I mean, it's right there.
We are the state guard.
We have armor.
We have aircraft.
We have tons and tons of people and we can be deployed at any time.
All the governor has to do is sign the order period. That's it. We're out. We're wrong. Correct. But, but we cannot operate deployed at any time. All the governor has to do is sign the order. Period.
That's it.
We're out.
We're rolling.
Correct.
But we cannot operate out of the state that we represent.
So when I was up in Minnesota and I was deployed, we couldn't cross the border.
And we were on the border.
You can't at the governor's direction.
You can't at the governor's direction.
So that's how South Carolina have just sent a national guard up to Washington, D.C.
Under the governor's discretion.
But we also have to have approval from the state that we're going to operate in, because if we don't have approval from the state we're about to operate in and you send armed military across the border, that's an invasion.
So you need permission.
Yeah, well, you haven't got that problem
with Washington, D.C., though, have you?
Because it's not a state, right?
No, Washington, D.C. is not a state.
It is literally under federal jurisdiction.
It's under home rule.
We fucked up in 1978
when we turned it over to,
let's call it a civilian form of governance.
We fucked up in 1978.
Home rule?
Isn't it the home rule law?
Or the home rule, whatever it was?
Yes.
But what Trump is doing right now is not illegal.
I'm glad.
I'm glad after all that debate.
Say this is why it's called a great debate.
I'm glad after all the debate,
we've actually come to the decision or the agreement, Scott.
I'm really appreciative that Trump isn't breaking any laws.
Dude, I agreed from the
onset, we literally did
I know you did
I was arguing, showing you the other side
and how easy it is to twist this
very, very easy to twist this
and you wrap it in a little fallacy of division
next thing you know, you have
just rampaging military going nuts
in Washington, D.C. Do they have bullets?
Do they have authority? Can they put hands on civilians? Therefore, it's an invasion. That's how easy it is. And that's
how they're spinning it right in front of you. Couldn't agree more. Let's get Joe in.
Joe, you've been very patient, brother. Yeah, I have a question, but I don't want to deter the
conversation. I'm just curious because you guys know the laws and you know, you know,
the fine line of this whole thing. Why do you think
nothing was done, you know, from a federal standpoint, if, you know, if the president
has these powers, when the autonomous zone was set up in Seattle, and you had clear insurrection of,
you know, or they were mobs, but they were organized mobs, taking over, you know,
they were mobs, but they were organized mobs
taking over, you know,
post offices,
police stations,
destroying property.
Some of it might be...
It's exactly the same reason
as when Minneapolis was burning
that Tim Walsh
didn't call in the National Guard either, right?
And he let Minneapolis burn for two days.
It's because some people...
I wouldn't call that an insurrection.
Some people
just want... So Trump threatened
the Insurrection Act on them.
The thing is, you've got to think, in his first term,
he was battling the impeachments and he was
going through loads of other shit.
COVID had hit. Trump had an
avalanche on his shoulders.
He could have called it
the Insurrection Act, but he would have actually required the support of the governor to really make it work in the
public's eye if he when chas kicked off in you're talking about seattle right yeah seattle was
probably like the worst thing that i've ever seen on tv in terms of like a a first world country
completely losing control of a major city. That was great, dude.
I lived in Seattle for six years.
That was great.
That was fucking great.
Seattle is like Brooklyn's cousin, but all white people is how I look at Seattle.
It was wonderful watching how impotent they made the entire state.
I mean, that's it.
They set up barricades.
Barricades meaning they put up pieces of plywood and spray painted graffiti on them. And suddenly everybody is just completely impotent. It was wonderful. other place, there would have been a civilian response for sure, because they're blocking,
they're blocking, you know, emergency routes for ambulances, fire trucks, police, people were
getting, dialing 911 and nobody was responding for days and people actually got killed.
Dude, there were like, wait a minute, there was an average of like three rapes per day
within the child zone, the area, right? There was like an average of three rapes per day within the child zone, the area, right?
There was an average of three rapes per day.
Of course there was.
Leftists, not only are they anarchists
and live in La La Land,
they're all sexual deviants.
All these leftists.
They're all driven by this urge
to rape and do kinky shit.
I'm convinced.
I don't know how anybody can
forget the cnn dude and he's standing in front of an entire city block on fire burning in the
background like as if we can't see it and your man's like uh well the mostly peaceful protests
and the place is burning to the ground yeah and i remember I remember on January 6th, I was actually watching the news because somebody called
They said, turn on CNN.
Look what's happening.
And I'm looking at it.
And I'm like, looks like a mostly peaceful protest to me.
And I just turned it off.
I'm like, it's a mostly peaceful protest.
You got a bunch of people waving flags and taking selfies.
And then there's like 100 people acting like fucking goons and th thugs and they're all going to get arrested which they did and to me that that
was the the precedent was already set between minneapolis seattle st louis new york
oh did we lose joe there don't know what happened joe b banz is back it's quite interesting you
mentioned january the 6th because i do want to actually get onto another point here uh but the
january of 6th isn't it mad that like uh five police officers died but like uh four of them
committed suicide after the event kind of crazy isn't it you always hear like about the five
police officers don't police officers who died,
but four of them committed suicide after the event.
It's pretty much the same as the Anthony Weiner laptop, isn't it?
You wonder if those four were the people that were willing to blow the whistle on exactly what went down.
We'll find out about that.
Do we have B-bands back or not?
Yes, there's something wrong with my signal, so I'm in and out.
Same. I walked away from my wi-fi right okay wait a minute we can come back to this whole shabow a little bit later i've got one for
you guys right ice cam coming in right uh so we've talked about that oh wait a minute cam's distracted me because cam never requests like
uh i have i have got another fucking major point i want to bring up here why is it fucking slipped
my mind i'll come back to what i think it's like b-bands coming in cam coming in and i'm like oh
trying to fucking make sure the room's happy right ice that's what i want to talk about
uh cam might have a point on what we've just been talking about,
so we'll let him speak first.
But I'd love to get you, because, you know,
I've got my opinions as an outsider, but as you as Americans,
you know, you hold a lot more weight than Cleb Robbo does
over in Bangkok, yeah?
With the whole ICE thing, the detentions.
We had this big debate with five on it the other day
uh where he just like was really angry about the way that uh trump's going about deporting
uh deporting people the way that ice is doing their work how they're teaming up with the dea
atf and like going like like how they're snaring like innocent people up but just just on this
point we've been talking about cam might want to come in
oh cam lad nice to see you on rag fm brother as a speaker hey guys i appreciate it
so mate what on the on that you've heard us talking about the trump thing washington dc
uh the fact that we like i mean i'm grateful of scott like giving up the lefty argument to kind
of show that like but like he's breaking no laws he's cleaning up he's reducing crime
we've seen like 86 uh illegal handguns or illegal guns off the streets we've seen carjackings down
87 we're saying like you know uh 40 odd arrests a day. The numbers are going mental. People are out on the streets again.
People are enjoying Washington, D.C.
He's not doing anything illegal.
Is he a bad man?
No, I don't think he's a bad man.
I think the problem is, is that now, and this gets into a sort of a deeper thing, which is it's good versus evil now.
It's not even Republicans, Democrats. It's is it's good versus evil. Now it's not even Republicans, Democrats, it's just, it's good versus evil.
And when you, we've had evil been thriving for years and years and years, it's
lashing out, essentially throwing a massive tantrum.
And that's why they're trying to attack Trump in every possible way.
And I'm not saying that Trump is perfect.
Um, nobody is, but he's doing a lot of good. And that's why we're seeing
these just outrageous, you know, the riots and protests, which in my opinion, and from my
research, a vast majority of them are all paid protesters from not only Soros, but that's
whatever, that's a deeper conversation. It doesn't matter, but there's several people,
billionaires that are involved in these, these protests.
So they're not organic.
Like they're showing on the news and, oh, this is crazy.
And they're trying to make Trump look like this, that, and the other thing.
But I think overall he's doing an awesome job.
And you mentioned ICE too, and I'll just finish up real quick.
You know, I'm in Florida, so we have alligator Alcatraz, which is funny because the way that they portray it on the news is
very different than the reality because all of these illegal aliens are on the very first
day. They don't have to stay there. They choose to stay there because they're offered a one-way
ticket home, plus they're given money to go home, but they're choosing to stay there.
They get $1, dollars and the opportunity to come
back through legal means and a free flight yeah yeah exactly they're giving money and so but on
the news they're saying oh my gosh these poor people are being ripped away from you know their
families and they're going to be fed to alligators and it's just it's hilarious the propaganda and
how strong it is and and the crazier thing for me is to see people, friends, family,
buy into it saying, oh, my gosh, this is like a concentration camp.
And I'm like, well, you've done absolutely no research about anything.
So you've just actually opened.
DeSantis announced it yesterday or the day before.
You've just opened a second alligator alcatraz.
It's called something else, but it's up in the northeast of
florida so you've essentially got like both areas of florida north and south now covered
uh and they're going for like i think 5 000 beds and this is like i think there's about
four or five popped up around like and there's one in nebraska there's a speedway one they've all got
these like weird nicknames hey there's a few things i'm gonna mention but before we get you in here i've been watching
all these independent like uh you know the tick tockers and the youtubers right going around you
know the independent media what they do now they go out in the streets right a lot of people call
it you know poverty tourism etc but you know and they've been gone out of some of the hoods in
uh washington dc to talk about them and i forgot who it was i'll go and find the video i watched it
the day and your woman's uh like comes up to this like young guy and like he's not a good hood guy
but he's you know he's you can tell he likes a jimmy cliff and a cheeky brandy on a night right
he's a player and uh the woman's like uh so were there ever any like real
gangs in like dc and asking this black guy and the black guy's just like hey man hey lady only
gang i'm worried about in dc is them fucking democrats i just i couldn't stop laughing i
thought oh my god that's so funny and so apt after as well. He's like, nah, Danny Gang, you gotta watch out for.
Here's them fucking Democrat motherfuckers.
Anyway, Joe's very patient.
Hello, Joe. He's back.
Just a quick interruption. I want to add on to what
Cam said, but also
tweak it a little bit.
You asked about, you know, is he a bad man?
Is he a bad man?
He is a bad man.
He's a very bad man, but he's not evil. And it is good versus evil.
And that's what's happening. You have this evil money coming in that's funding inorganic
protests. The protests are spun by the also evil media, which is basically just like a PR
arm of, you know, globalist, Democrat, leftist,
who are by far the minority sliver of, you know, pop culture and political philosophy.
And that's it. You need a bad man.
You need a bad man who just literally throws caution to the wind,
doesn't care that his kids are going to have you know a target
on their back their entire lives his grandkids his great grandkids and he's he's rolling up his
sleeves guy could be playing golf every day on an island and he's not but yeah i think he's a very
bad man that's why he's not likable for so wait a minute most right so let's go back to the classic
1987 movie that won the oscar that year the untouchables
right and elliot ness is in you know he's in bits at the beginning isn't he with the corruption and
everything and he meets sean connery and they have that little conversation in the church right
all right and he talks that he puts one of your men in the hospital you put two of his in the morgue
all right you're fucking he brings a knife to a fight
you bring a gun to a fight that's what you're getting with trump that's exactly what you've
got on that was such a good movie dude that was such a good movie man i had it on vhs you remember
i never saw that who's in untouchables was gene hackman no no kevin costner, Sean Connery. And who was the Italian guy?
Robert De Niro.
Robert De Niro was Al Capone.
Yeah, De Niro was Al Capone, and he was perfect at it.
Oh, you mean the sharpshooter?
You mean the sharpshooter?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, what's he called again?
I love him, and I forget the guy's name, man.
Yeah, he was in some of...
Andy Garcia. Andy Garcia. Yes, Andy Garcia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. love him and i forget the guy's name man but yeah he was in uh some of uh andy garcia andy garcia
that was such a good actor he's an outstanding it's a young andy garcia in there when you watch
him like now in these days and you come because he was in there was he in oceans 13 or something
yeah he was in the third godfather he was the only thing good about that movie. He was excellent in the third
Godfather. Don't say that again,
Joe. Never say that again. That movie was
awful. You know when he does
someone to watch it.
You know when he does the scene though,
you know the scene at the train
station. You know the train station
when the pram goes down the stairs
and then he slides over and he's like,
Kevin Costner's like, you got him?
And he's like, I got him.
And bang.
And it's like, he's so good in that.
And he got to see you.
So fucking good.
Sean Connery, by the way.
Sean Connery's good in everything.
I mean, come on, man.
You're talking about a very iconic actor, man.
He's good in everything.
You're going to smack a woman in the face every once in a while.
Do you know one of these most underrated films of all time is the medicine man what a fucking great movie that is if you've never seen the medicine man
great i saw the rock when i was in high school the rockers are going i thought it was like
zorlock or whatever bell you remember that picture i sent you uh of i remember
i'm old enough to remember zorlock man yeah i'm old enough to remember that shit find that picture
and put it up in the nest that is double funny that was great man he's such a hairy guy too i
wonder if they considered that before they cast him in that without without a doubt that i can't
even stand to have a conversation
with anybody who doesn't think that Sean Connery
wasn't the best James Bond ever.
He was by far and away the most...
If you go back to the late 60s stuff he did,
the Bond stuff, really late 60s, 70s,
he was by far and away the best.
I could rank the top two easy.
Sean Connery, and I'll sit on my island here, man, but I'm right.
Roger Moore.
Roger Moore was the perfect kind, perfect, perfect gentleman spy.
I mean, he was just wonderful.
He was just swore.
Where Sean Connery was, like, really rough around the edges,
like, really rough. Like, even with the women, rough around the edges, like really rough.
Like even with the women, he was like rough, rough.
Like Roger Miller was just an absolute swath.
Like he was like all over it, right?
Yes.
And for that reason, I believe that Roger Moore or Roger Moore 007
would kick Jason Bourne's ass because not only does he have the suave,
but he's got a support staff.
All right, he's got a support staff.
Dude, I thought Piers Brosnan, I thought Piers Brosnan,
the thing is, I mean, I know that, you know,
technology and movies and everything and cinema photography moved on,
but I thought, like, Piers Brosnan was also, like, an excellent,
like, Goldeneye and all them,M. Back in the day, I thought
he was an excellent bond. Much better
than Timothy Dalton.
Probably the worst.
He was terrible.
George Lazenby
would be the worst.
Then Timothy Dalton,
probably.
Then I think I actually put
Piers Brosnan above Daniel Craig,
mate.
I think they need to DEI
hire the next one.
It's going to be a black lesbian or Chinese
lesbian.
Lucy Liu is going to be the next
James Bond.
And then after that, it's going to be
Billy Porter.
Iggy Azalea.
Iggy Azalea.
Do you know who they've been trying to get for years?
They've been trying to get Idris Elba for years.
Oh, he's awesome.
That guy's awesome in everything.
Awesome.
Everything.
He is.
He is.
He is.
But listen, I'm going to sound racist here and i place please i
haven't got a racist bone in my body for anybody listening i don't think we should ever have a
black james bond just say i'm just putting it out there you can talk about 2025 and multiculturalism
and everything you want i just didn't think a black james bond will ever like you can have a any any other role you want but i just didn't think
i'm sorry i just don't think given the history when was there thunderball was it 1959 or 1961
probably 61 61 was it probably 59 seemed a little bit early for Thunderball. Okay, so Thunderball was the first, right?
The first Ray Elbon movie,
yeah? I believe so.
Oh yeah, it's the original
Silver. So what is
the movie where
Daniel Craig goes up to Scotland
with your woman, Judy
Dench, and they go in,
he goes to the car,
you know, the antique car in the
garage yeah yeah so that's the same car as what was in thunderbolt it's the original one that he
was driving back in the day so it's 61 oh it's the same car oh yeah that's the whole thing yeah
go and look i had no idea i have look i have no problem with james bond double oh i i
don't care i i don't care what it is as long as it's somebody who's suave and kind of a badass
that is what james bond is i think idris elba would nail it i think he would be absolutely
perfect in that role and i'd much rather see him doing that role than Iggy Azalea or Lady Gaga or whatever else they'll put in there.
I'd much rather see Iggy Thelma.
I'm sorry, and I'm pretty sure B-Bands would agree with me on this one.
But we ladies deserve to have our eye candy, too.
It can't always be about the hot chick that you guys are drooling over.
No, we got the hot chick in all
of these. Octopussy. Come on.
Have you not seen that? I mean,
come on. We always got the hot chick
in a James Bond movie.
I've never seen a single James Bond movie
because I'm so
racist against British people.
I've never seen a movie with a British
I can't believe it.
I am beyond
redemption here. Joe, I am
beyond. I'm going to have to
go to church tomorrow and say
20 Hail Marys for your soul
before you go to hell. I would like
to see a hungover
version of Ben Stiller
not Ben Stiller, sorry, Ben Affleck
as James Bond. i think he would nail
it too for like half of a movie i think he'd be good oh i fucking hate that guy hate him hate him
i just want to ask a british accent wait a minute bella what about henry cavall
what about henry cavall is the next bond i'm game for that like no
no he's british he's british well if german you can't have you can't have james bond if he's not I'm game for that, like, no. Is he British? He's British.
Joe, man, you can't have James Bond
if he's not British, Joe. What are you talking about?
Then he will be Jukes of Hazzard or some fucking shit.
What are you talking about?
I would love that.
Get a great redneck in there.
That'd be great, man.
We're all about destroying franchises, man.
Let's put Larry the Cable Guy
in there. That's your new double
87. He'd be good i mean the the problem i see with uh henry cobble uh being a being james bond is
people are immediately gonna look at his character and go oh super, Superman. That's the only problem I have with that.
That's the problem for all superhero actors, I think.
Do I think that he could do a good job?
Yeah, I do.
But he'll never get it
because I have a feeling he's been typecast.
You know what?
The only issue with that, and he'd be wonderful.
I love Henry Cavill.
I absolutely respect what he does from The Witcher, Superman, all that stuff.
But he doesn't take his, James Bond doesn't take his shirt off enough.
And let's be real, all right?
This is Henry Cavill's kind of gift to the entire world when he takes that shirt off.
And yeah, if you want the eye candy, then you got to get him naked in some way or another.
And it's just it doesn't happen.
James Bond, you know, he dresses up.
You know, he's got the tie, got the suit, got the everything.
And that ain't going to work.
Idris Elba.
Idris Elba would be perfect.
What about Luke Bryan as the redneck James Bond?
I don't think it's as funny as Larry the Cable Guy.
That would be great, man.
Let's just decimate a franchise in a single
movie. That would be the way to go.
It's going to get
our way.
Wait a minute. Joe, what
is it kind of doing here to me, being
one of the honey Brits here?
Get up here, sorry.
What is it kind of doing to me? You're like saying
to me, all right, Robbo, we would accept
like a buddy from Birmingham as like superman in the next big superman movie i'm not buying into it
like you can't have superman walking out with a grummy accent all right mate my name is barry
from birmingham like you can't like it just doesn't work dude i'm sorry you can't have some yankee
redneck looking motherfucker come out with with his fucking whipping and wooing
And all this that you Americans do
Cheerleading and all that right
It's James Bond
What about the brother from Everybody Loves Raymond
I forget his name
He'd be good
He's tall
He looks like he could handle a gun
Oh my god
This is great man Keep it coming joe oh scott you missed this
and robo take your vitamin c pills before you forget time out joe okay considering james bond
is is a british character from start to finish You cannot have someone that is not from that region
play that character. It's not going to work that way. What does it mean to be British in 2025,
though? It doesn't even matter. British are almost extinct, except for the ones that moved
to the United States. You could have a Somali pirate
play James Bond, and that would be just as British
as anything else you could think of.
The only qualification,
Scott, the only qualification
you need to be British these days is to know
the phrase,
Allah Akbar.
Allah Akbar.
Robo, look at me.
Look at me. I'm the Bond now. That. Look at me. I'm the Bond now.
That's perfect, man.
I'm the Bond now.
I'm the Prime Minister now.
Jesus Christ.
If we're going to twist it that bad,
why don't we just get Jeff Dunham
to bring his puppet, Ockman, out?
He's good, too.
Dunham could do it.
What about Johnny Knoxville?
You'd save money.
He'll do his own stunts.
Oh, shit. I think he'd do it for a few minutes. Wait a minute. What about Johnny Knoxville? You'd save money. He'll do his own stunts.
Wait a minute.
What movie was he in? I saw a movie with Johnny Knoxville and he was really good. Was it
Duke's Hazard or something?
Duke's Hazard.
He was in
Men in Black 2. He played a role
in Men in Black 2.
Most of his are silly.
He beats the hell out of himself,
and, you know, they make a little bit
of box office success.
But I can't really think of a single
Johnny Knoxville movie that I,
aside from Jackass, that I would say,
boy, that was really good.
I can't really think of one.
So I missed, this is one of the biggest
regrets of my life, right?
And it wasn't even my fault.
It was me missus being late,
getting ready
and getting showered typical like blame the woman story but i missed uh steve o and johnny knoxville
and the other dude uh what was the really good skater called again uh what's his name again man
the dude that cracked up uh the one that got his own shawna la first he was like the first one to make it big
like solo uh oh man he was the best skater out of all of them but he's name again what do you mean
he was the best well they were all the same as dirty sand yeah yeah yeah of course bam and i was thinking like bam bam and i was like it's not bam bam bam
right so bam and steve-o and uh uh knoxville they were out in cairns in northern australia out on
the piss and i got out and me mate and his missus had been out in the ball when they rolled in
and i was like are you meitting me like and i looked at
me missus and i just oh that was the end of the relationship after that i never recovered and we
actually separated like when we got back home but i was half an hour late for them and she kept me
waiting and around in the house for like half an hour after we should have already left and i was
like i've just missed steve-o i've just missed i think it was when uh
because there were two in australia i think it was when steve all got the tattoo in his arm
in the atv you know when he gets the smiley face tattooed on his arm in the atv i think
there were filming like that there never swords around them so it would have been uh 2007
2007
Like mid 2007
I was foreman
I was like I've just missed Jackass because of you
You absolute little slag
I couldn't talk her off for two weeks
When I was foreman
Foreman
Did I kill the room there did I
Calling me ex-miss as a slag
I'm sorry Is it recorded all right
sue me bitch i got you
well mate there were me heroes at the time like jackass and dirty sanchez with who i grew up with
man so do you know who dirty sanchez are or not have you heard of them before dirty sanchez the group like jackass the british group
no they're worse than jackass ever was like far worse like some they got uh they got barred from
sweden for life you know when they did the be enema on stage oh bro how bad is that the day
the enema the b enema up the man's arse and then he shits in the pint glass and the man drinks it
oh my god floating pieces of shit and everything.
I've never seen anything like it in my life.
The dude, Pritchard though, this dude, Pritchard, he was like one of the main crazy dudes, right?
He's gone get woke.
He's gone get vegan and full on like lefty and woke.
And I'm just like, oh, you know, when your heroes become like zeros.
Have you ever been in that position?
You grow up thinking someone's a hero
and they just end up like an absolute zero in your estimation.
You're like, oh, what a pleb.
Bit like Joe.
I don't want to say a bad word on a recorded space.
Hey, man, Scott missed this.
So we were talking about that.
Scott, you missed this.
We were talking about the wonder years and everything. Me and Joe, the other week, we were talking about that Scott, you missed this We were talking about the wonder years
And everything, me and Joe the other week
We had a full, like, almost a full space
Where we were just freestyling about
Like, really cool, historical
American, cultural shit
Back in the daylight
We had a right little wholesome space, Joe, didn't we?
Is your wife interested yet, Donat?
I gotta continue watching
I'm still on season two
I gotta pick it up maybe later tonight.
I've been busy.
Slacker.
I'm not a TV watcher guy.
I feel like a loser if I sit there and watch TV for too long.
I have to be doing stuff, you know?
That's what your cell phone is for, bro.
All right?
You put on something, you ignore it, and you play on your cell phone is for bro all right you put on
something you ignore it you play on your cell phone this is my life all right and it honestly
it pisses me off i'm like well let's watch this and uh yeah you know who i'm looking at here bella
and let's watch this and then it goes on and i look up i'm the only one who's paying attention
to it and i look up you on the fucking phone i'm like why are we watching this i want to watch jackass i want to watch something silly i want to be entertained
when i want when i watch television man so uh aside from that the only show i'm really getting
into anymore is peaky blinders love it scott i told you you would love peaky blinders man
fucking rob all the pikey got you on the peak pinky blinders but dude go back right see if you can find the early episodes of uh dirty sanchez these boys from there no no i'm not
shitting you not it's these boys from wheels right so the skaters so they like pancho uh
pritchard danton and then there's this the bring this uh like this cockney kid uh who is that i
think it's matt is it i'll have to go and remember their names and so bring this uh like this cockney kid uh who is that i think it's
matt is it i'll have to go and remember their names and so you've got like three welish kids
and then this like cockney fucking dick that like moved he got moved with his family like his family
moved for work or something and he was a little kid and he got like took from like the suburbs of
fucking east london to wales to the valleys and he ended up hanging around with these and they were all
like skaters you know back into within the day how it started so this actually started before jackass
right officially how it started is that they were out uh skating and they used to video the skating
yeah and one day uh pritchard the big dude he he went to do this like mad jump and he like broke his
ankle and his uh bottom part of his leg right and it was a compound fracture and they get
born like flew out the leg and it was well well well in the early days of the internet
this like way back in the day yeah like you know mid to late 90s or mid to early late
90s and the the had the put the video online and it did the best numbers like beyond
belief that they'd ever seen this was like the real you know the shock culture stuff back in
the day before it was even shock culture and they were like why don't we just do like loads of mad
so like this dude had broke his leg and his ankle had a compound fracture all on video skate at the
skate park the poured online it did amazing numbers
and they were like why don't we just do this full time and then that actually got sponsored by like
channel 4 and that and they created this whole thing around doing mad
like naked pain balling like all of the jackass stuff you see like i'm not gonna say jackass was stolen from dirty sanchez i would
just say that dirty sanchez was the first and the original and all of the other things right
came after dirty sanchez like literally this is a this is a brit show oh man you'll thank me for it
you'll you'll thank me for it i'm not kidding you you'll you'll absolutely thank me for it. You'll thank me for it. I'm not kidding you. You'll absolutely thank me for it.
I mean, probably.
I like silly shit like that,
but I mean, you know, I don't
watch a lot of the Brit shows. I like Father
Ted. That one cracked
me up. I watched that for the entire run
and then Extras. I watched all
of that because I love me some, you know,
Ricky, but I don't watch
an awful lot of those. Yeah, but they're sitcoms.
And I've never seen
an episode of Doctor Who. I've
never seen a single episode of
Doctor Who. Doctor Who shit, man.
Bullshit, man. Some dude flying around
in a fucking phone box. Get the fuck out of here.
Doctor Who shit.
Dude. Phone boxes?
Is that what you guys call them? Ah, he's in a
TARDIS. A fucking a phone box what a load of
doctor my dad used to make me watch doctor who the thing is doctor who in the 80s was so fake
man we had this dude called sylvester mccoy is the doctor my dad used to make me watch it i used to
hate me dad for xp dick dad like you better let me watch some cool after we watch this
like you better let me watch world's strongest man after this year because i'm foreman i hate the doctor who all my life man but you're talking about father ted and them
their sitcoms like dirty sanchez was one of the like this was even kicking off like say before
big brother like you know big brother was the big reality tv push forward like uh i think the first
one was in holland in 97 or 98 and then we had the first one in England in
99 and Big Brother took over the world and that was like you know
every little violent all the rest of them came this reality TV
Sanchez was reality TV before reality TV was even a thing like
I say it was it was probably about two years ahead of Jackass
allegedly I've heard Jackass saw dirty Sanchez and got the idea
to do it in america and
fair play to them they made big money out of it they made big movies you know bam and them got
sideshows made millions and millions of dollars got skateboard deals but essentially jackass
there were skateboarders steve o was a skateboarder bam was one of the best skateboarders out there at
the time right won competitions as a kid and everything but but that was the same as the welsh kids in and you see what i mean
i'm first and foremost english and i'm big enough welsh kids here and saying like these kids are the
business dude just do me a favor go and find the first few episodes of dirty sanchez and watch it
you'll see like things like the seven sins they did this
like feature length movie called the seven sins you've never seen anything like it in your life
man they did some bad shit dude they did uh lady boy uh you're not like russian roulette
they did lady boy blowjob russian roulette that is great man under the table
yeah yeah yeah look man
I've been into the Philippines
a few times alright I'm a
sailor man we get out there and
we have something like that we call it
smiles so odds are
good that they probably ripped that off
from the Navy because we've been
doing that for centuries and it's
exactly what you are talking
about exactly there's there's a bunch of guys at the table and there's somebody under there and
obviously you we we can uh fill in the blanks of what's happening and if you got to pick the guy
who was who's smiling or who breaks down and you know that it's happening if if he gets nailed he's
got a buy around I didn't think about doing it with the lady boy that is double funny right there oh yeah
you do you do it's like you do it with like a pack of cards or something and like they'll play
like high card or whatever it is right and then like they went on and then you see they'll have
to pull the pants down before they sit down you you know. And then you'll see like the...
Yeah, we can do the same freaking smiles, man.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Mate, you know what they did in Thailand as well?
Because Thailand's the only place you could do this.
They did one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen in my life.
They took Pancho in.
So Pancho's like the little fat fuck.
And he's the dude that falls asleep because he gets wrecked really easy.
So they shave his eyebrows and they shave his hair every time and you know how they put toothpaste
on his eyes and they'll always pick on him because he's always the first one asleep right
so he's fat as yeah and the go to thailand and he goes for the lip liposuction liposuction
never suck the fat out here and uh dan the cockney i'm reaching here thinking oh
oh the the dan like as a bet has to drink he's fat but they're in the clinic in the room where
your man's on the table with a gown and everything on and he's getting the liposuction
they're sucking the fat out, right?
And then they put the fat in the glass,
and then your man has to fucking drink it.
Oh, my God.
You know, Jackass did something kind of like that.
They wrapped up Preston Lacey, the big fat fuck,
and they put him on an elliptical,
and they got like half a glass of his sweat, and
Steve-O drank it.
He fucking drank it. I thought
the horse semen thing was bad enough, man,
but...
Is that the one who turned
out to be a pedo, the big fat one?
He turned out to be a pedo, didn't he? Can you remember that?
I have no idea, dude.
Oh, dude, I...
The big fat dude out of uh
jackass he turned out to be a proper like it hardcore paid oh it was unreal like when it came
out the news really bad at the time like oh okay i i'm saying i don't know man i don't follow the
shit that close oh mate it was a great scandal man like jackass went like went dark for like uh and
that's when they made like the second movie after, like, went dark for, like, and that's when they made, like, the second movie after that.
Jackass went dark for about, like, two years because of that.
Dirty Sanchez went dark because they ended up getting banned
from, like, every single country.
They caused a riot.
They caused a riot in the theatre in Finland.
Oh, dude, they caused a riot in Finland,
so they ended up getting escorted out of the country, banned for life.
They did the beer
enema in sweden in stockholm caused a massive riot they ended up getting all of them got like a
lifetime bars from ever entering like uh sweden ever again and then did you say beer enema oh mate
so they did they did it back in the day and then when they were traveling around the world they did it back in the day. And then when they were traveling around the world, they did this part of the stage show.
I think on episode three of the original Dirty Sanchez,
the first one, it was on MTV.
Dude, this is how big this was.
It was on MTV back in the day.
There were proper MTV stars, right?
Like 97, 98, 99.
Mate, they do this beer enema.
Holy fuck, right?
They pump like three pints of beer in his arse.
And then he squirts it out.
And as he squirted it out, they've got a pint glass and they're catching it.
And they give it to Dan, the Cockney.
Because that's his job.
He's the one that eats all the, he eats ashtrays.
And he eats like, oh, he does this.
He rims a tramp.
He actually, in the street, they got out in the finder get tramp living on the street
for like fucking six months, and he
rims a fucking tramp on the streets.
Oh, my God.
Why are you recommending this to me?
Because it's so funny.
But, mate, the dude that
did be an enema, and he's literally
got the pint glass in front of him,
and you can see the
floating pieces of, like, shit, right? Like right like gone around the glass and he's like rah he's reaching and he
dude he's still chugging it and so as he's chugging it right pancho starts being sick like pancho's
watching and then and then they all start being sick while he's drinking so he's drinking it but the others are all being sick watching
him drink it's fucking disgusting
absolutely
thorough I'm not
saying I wouldn't do it but there
would need to be I'm a shellback man
alright anybody military guys
are familiar with that I'm a shellback you wouldn't
believe the shit I ate I'm not saying I
wouldn't do it but it would have to be one
fuck of a big check because we're gonna have to buy some mouthwash after that and i'm talking a lot of it
so uh yeah i mean i get it i get it it's not something i would line up for but then we'll
give you a million dollars if you drink this you know what mouthwash ain't that expensive sure let
me do this i'll be shamed for a brief time and i will get over it but it would
need to be i would have a go for a mil i mean anything under a mil i think i would draw the
line right but i would like i would realize that i could have like a stomach pump after
i could like i've like low i could just make myself like really sick afterwards so like
i reckon a mil that i would do the be anima after aftermath for a mill
a clean mill though after like not not taxes a mill like after tax like a clean mill on the table
i would fucking do that like especially out of red eyes ass oh red eye welcome back we might
need to pivot now you're back you just specified it's got to be on a red-eyed ass.
That's great, man.
You know, okay, so the person getting the enema,
that's up in the air.
That's debatable.
It could be red-eyed for all we know.
But the person I could actually see chugging this once it comes back out
Gary from
Naked and Afraid and he'd do it
for cheap
oh you're talking red eyes language now
and the red eye is just talking your language now right
well I'll just say
for Scott
he's been around crypto and trading
for a while you could just
create a scam coin and
scam people out of
a million and not have to drink beer
out of someone's ass and still walk
away with a mill
I don't think
my conscience would take that I want to earn
it all right I do I do want
to earn it and that's one way to do it
I mean I could say I earned that honestly
all right I could sleep at night
yeah I'm gonna pay no taxes on that shit I earned that honestly. All right, I can sleep at night. Yeah, I'm going to pay no taxes on that shit.
I earned the full one mil.
So shall we continue the serious debate side of things?
Okay, I want to put this out the room.
Five on it made a very good case of mine the other day
about the fact that although not deported, some innocent people, not many, just a couple,
you know, a couple of handful, some innocent people have been swept up, unfortunately,
during these ICE raids. And I was trying to explain that, like, you know, when you get
out in the streets and you grab like 1.6 million people uh you know maybe one
or two things might happen but like due process make sure that you know the facts came out and
blah blah blah uh i will go to you first because you've got your hand up personally as an american
uh what's your feelings on ice how they behave how're acting, what's going down on the streets.
I mean, we only say the worst of things, right?
But, you know, I think you've got rid of about 1.6 up to now.
1.6 million?
A lot of them obviously have self-deported through the CBP app, etc.
What's your feelings, Red Eye, on the ICE situation? Well, I'll say it's definitely a true statement that there are people that are not the individuals they're looking they behave differently in public now, or they carry certain things on them in public now, just as, like, a safety.
By that, I'm not talking about a gun.
I mean, like, their passport or something like that.
But what I will say—
Well, that green card.
The green card, yeah.
Yeah, if they're a migrant.
But, I mean, we see people that are falsely accused in much smaller populations.
Like you can look at, uh, individuals on death row and people who were, uh, killed or originally
put on death row, uh, but were innocent. Um, there's lots of groups out there that are working
like the innocence project. I'm sure you've heard of that robo um and so i will say i have no issue with uh removing illegal immigrants
from the country i guess my if i well red eye wait a minute red eye would the question be to what degree do you accept what we would call collateral damage, right?
So if we talk about innocent people being swept up in ICE raids, right?
If you're talking like, say, 10 or less people, right, that have been swept up in ICE raids,
but due process has very quickly identified this and, you know, family members have come forward,
documentation has come forward, and these people have been very quickly released once due process
kicks in but let's say like it's round about because it's less than 10 actually but let's
say it's round about 10 but you're talking 1.6 million illegal immigrants in the last seven
months have departed the united states whether voluntary or involuntary what what level of
collateral like uh collateral damage would you say is acceptable in that regards i mean that's super low if it is
10 out of 1.6 million that is one in 106 one in 160 000 that happens so that's pretty low
uh what i would say is if they wanted to reduce the effects of
collateral damage going into the future, do what they do for people who are wrongly convicted,
they're paid what they would have otherwise potentially made out of jail, right? So if
someone is detained for a month or whatever, I know this sounds like a long time, but like if
they're detained for a month and they're found that they are not uh illegal like they're here legally and then they
get let go they should probably be have some sort of compensation for their time uh and whatever
you know shit they had to go through some of that collateral damage.
Because, yeah, I think if you try and prevent all collateral damage,
you'll hinder your success.
Like you're too concerned about doing something wrong
that you don't do enough right uh and that's not good
so i would say come up with a way to uh financially compensate people who are improperly or falsely
swept up in this process and they're let go well that's that's what joe said there that's what joe
said earlier about trump being bad but not evil in the UN like it's good versus
evil at this point in time and and yes Trump is bad but he's not evil so also red eye you've got
to think that anybody that has been arrested like say like this group of people wrongly like they
can now sue for wrongful arrest and like you can get a nice little period for wrongful arrest not that that would be any not that that would be any kind i'm not kind of condo there i'm not condoning either
side in this situation i'm just saying if you were unfortunate enough to have been caught up in these
dragnets i did use the term with five on it the other night drag nets right when he was talking
about the innocent people being swept up yeah and i was like a trolling line like a trolling net exactly exactly you're gonna it's gonna happen regardless
of what you're not in the confusion of these mass raids and stuff something like this has got but
you know these people are gonna walk walk away with at least about 900 000 to 1.1 million dollars
appeal for wrongful arrest right if you've got like if you've got a decent lawyer and you've got the stats behind you yeah so that sounds like a that
sounds like a reasonable sum to pay for the federal government if they in that process if
they pay out a mil per person so 10 mil for 10 falsely imprisoned people i think the benefits of removing 1.6
mil minus 10
illegal immigrants probably exceed
the cost of
the payout
for those who are falsely imprisoned.
Five was
going hard on it the other day, and I
did understand some of the stuff he was saying, right?
But I was trying to raise him with some facts,
and I did get some data. he was trying to say though that like sort of uh og american
citizens right whether born born there or naturalized right had been deported and i was like
no that is totally correct and he so he tried to mention the uh kilmar garcia case you know the
maryland the maryland man and i was like well bro like you do realize he's el salvadorian
so you do realize like not only that he's con he's not he's a confirmed gang member because
he's been through two immigration courts right who and the undercover police all like fucking vouched that he was a
gang member and the reason why the deportation was wrong is because he shouldn't have been
deported to El Salvador because the second immigration judge on appeal said that because
he was a gang member he was at risk of being attacked or persecuted by the other kind of
reigning gang in El Salvador so he had to go to a third country
and like i was trying to reason and say like look dude there is not a single recorded case
of a real american citizen or a naturalized american citizen having ever been deported from
america under trump's second uh reign all right under his
second term uh there's not one of them being like deported by mistake and it's the one the one place
he was i think trump the trump administration actually fucked up the most it's not this illegal
immigration thing i think it's actually uh deporting students on totally legit visas for um
or wait a minute are you talking about the muslim brotherhood terrorists that they've
snuck into the us under i say you're talking about the muslim brotherhood terrorists right
you're talking about khalil khalil mahoud and well yeah or uh i mean yeah that would be an example uh or like the um like they they i don't
know if it actually passed but there was propositions to uh make like to restrict freedom
of speech further to prevent anti-semitic language and behavior um no they're trying to know they're
trying to stop the infiltration of the muslim brotherhood into all of the educational establishments
yeah that's exactly what it is so i bet you still haven't found the documentary the power
of nightmares yet i bet you still haven't found it have you i bet you haven't even looked for it
even though i've told you like 10 times.
That's correct.
You've got Uber, you've got it this weekend for me, for Robbo, so I shut up about it. Go and find the documentary The Power of Nightmares 2003, I think it is. It's a three-part, or actually, but the first part's the one that matters. And just go and watch it, and then you'll have a much more different view of the infiltration of
the muslim brotherhood uh in it like dude you've got no idea man they've just changed their name man
changed their name and changed their public statements man and like they've infiltrated
they've infiltrated the uk and europe so bad man they've infiltrated canada as well
but it's like really fucking sick like the mother
mother muslim brotherhood are a very very very highly evil entities but okay so the same situation
where we're talking about people getting swept up you know you know accidentally getting swept up
um i think the same thing is you know would happen would happen in that, right? So let's say
the Muslim Brotherhood is the one who is organizing protests against, you know,
the US's relationship with Israel, promoting the freedom and, you know, the help of
freedom and, you know, the help of Palestinians. You could be a, you know, you could be a student
on a visa from a totally separate country and feel some empathy towards that cause and want
to participate in demonstrations, nonviolent demonstrations, and you get swept up in, you know, whatever
sort of action the administration is taking to reduce those events.
And I find that more problematic than the people getting swept up.
Well, I guess they're both problematic ones for free speech
one is just like uh you're doing it in such mass numbers that you inevitably you'll end up scooping
up someone that you didn't mean to well let me just come in with something here though because
this is quite interesting so you know all about the red green alliance right you know what the
red green alliance is yes that sounds super familiar can you can you tell me what it is
yeah right so okay so obviously the red side of it being the commies and the lefties and the
fucking socialists right and the marxists yeah from that indoctrinated like university
background right the pabloists right like kia starmer and the the entire fucking labor cabinet are all members
of the fabian society okay this is right so it's the convergence of political yes the muslim the
most yes the muslim world being the green side of it you know how they've all got the certain you
know how all the muslim countries have got the grain on their flag right they've all got essentially
the same colors right so it's the red green alliance it's called right okay where essentially it's just like normal people on the side of common sense like us that
are on one side we're labeled far right for being free thinkers and critical thinkers right and
what's happened over time and it's been a long drawn out process and the muslim brotherhood
have been at the core of this alongside people like the Fabian Society in England and the rest of them right so you've got this red green
alliance which is where you've all of these commies coming out standing up for Palestine
and everything right you've seen all these Palestinian marches you've seen all of the
fucking shit going on in the university campuses where the shit always kicks off on the unis
first it was the same in Thailand when it was in the 70s and they were having our little uprisings here and the leftist communists fucking shit all started on
the unis man and they end up killing like loads of students at tamasat university in 1976 over here
very very bad by the way so you've got this like crazy alliance but then go and look who's behind
the current modern commie movement.
And it's the Jews.
Would you?
So I like.
No, no. Did you hear what I said there?
Did you hear what I said there?
Yeah.
It's the Jews.
So think about it.
Think about it, right?
The Red Green Alliance are out there kicking off, right?
About Israel.
And the Jews are in the background stalking the flames in the first place from the fucking commie side of it.
I've told you about the bolshevik revolution 86 percent of all of their office 86 percent of
all of their offices were all jews stalin was a jew i uh mox was a jew uh uh tolsky was a jew they
were all fucking high-level fucking jews man bro i'll change the name and try to like blend in
i think ireland is a really interesting country and place to look at the outspokenness.
I'm focusing specifically on the Israel-Palestine conflict right now.
From my understanding, Ireland is not a Muslim-majority majority country yet there is overwhelming
It's one of the original Roman
Catholic countries and it's always remained
staunchly Roman Catholic
even though the Protestant
Reformation came in
in the late like 1500s
so when King Henry
VIII declared that there was like
the Protestant Reformation
and they wanted to
because the pope had all the power uh ireland defended this and fought against it it's always
been a fucking cap do you know do you know you couldn't buy a condom in ireland do you know you
couldn't do you know do you know the ira do you know that when the ira were important guns in
ireland there were important condoms and porn do you know true story no i do you know that when the IRA were important guns in Ireland, there were important condoms and porn?
Do you know what I mean?
True story.
No, I did not know that.
Oh, dude, I could talk to you about Shannon Airport and everything,
and I could talk to you about the links with Gaddafi and the whole shabam.
Why do you think they're so pro-Palestine?
Do you think it's because of their, like, the northern,
maybe it's just northern Ireland and Ireland that I'm really thinking about.
They're not. The amount of ireland they're not ireland they're not thinking about they're not the amount of dude they're not it's because there's a lot of commies in there from mainstream media and fucking universities right think about this you only
need one university professor to infect hundreds or thousands of fucking students no but you've
seen that like when uh i mean uh was it khabib and other UFC fighters who are Muslim fighting in Ireland or fighting Irish people?
Like making statements about like, at least for Khabib, it was like, you know, inside the ring, this is all fighting.
This is pure sport, but outside the ring, like Ireland is the greatest supporter of Palestine and the fucking crowd goes wild.
So this is, you know, I'm outside of it. I'm just looking at the media.
So what I'm saying might not be that's reality on the ground no that's a media narrative no you think so island has been and always will be a roman catholic country the law was take
their orders from the roman popery well in taking that you, those things at face value, my assumption was that basically Ireland or Northern Ireland, it was probably more, I'm thinking of Northern Ireland.
You can't confuse the two.
Yeah, I know.
So I'm probably more thinking of Northern Ireland where they're just, they been subjected to uh a ruling government that they have
kind of like no say in like they want to be their own well hollyrod hollyrod takes its orders from
uh the uk in any way so hollyrod is the head of the uh northern irish government right
and obviously like you've got the situation with shin finn so near dairy
uh no no it's up in the north so it's more uh belfast hollyrod's a separate entity on
its own anyway but it's so derries border country you've got the borderlands right
so like what there's 30 i think there's 30 30 something counties in ireland
uh and there's only about seven or eight counties in the north actually
well the thing is the north was always the most prosperous land
that was where all the plantations were
and this is what started it all up in the first place
after the Protestant Reformation
well it started with King Henry VIII
and continued with his daughter Queen Elizabeth I and continued to restore queen elizabeth the first
and she was hardcore her by the way she basically uh took over like all the lands and took all the
lands away from the original irish plantation owners and that and gave them the fucking like
a british like uh you know the british aristocrats like the earls and all that? It's all moved. Oh, dude, islands, it's a basket.
Islands, a basket case that can't be compared or balanced against anything else in the world.
It's fair.
Do you know that island was England's first colony and it's last?
There's a cool one for you.
Do you know that?
The last one it took control of? No no it was no no it was the first colony
it ever had right in around 1300 around 1300 and it was and there was battles over by the way
and they had full control by the uh early 1600s queen victoria queen elizabeth first reign
board island was an interesting one.
It was the first colony around sometime in the 1300s.
And it was the last colony that we gave away with the Good Friday Agreement,
which was like in 1998 or whenever it was.
So essentially it was because that's when they got like self-rule and stuff.
And the devolution happened.
Ireland was actually Englandland's i'm
going to use the word england because england was the colonizer nobody else by the way
ireland was england's first colony and its last ever it spanned i think almost 700 years
and if you do the numbers right there's a there's a statistic there's a proper number for this
there's a statistic, there's a proper number for this.
During the entire colonisation of England over Ireland,
around about 1.34 people, I think it is.
If I remember the statistic, I read it in a book,
around about 1.34 people died every day for the entire conflict
that started from when colonisation began.
It's crazy how it worked out how many people died
since England took control of Ireland.
Like, they didn't really have...
Well, again, they didn't have real...
Because England was fighting its own battles for France and everything, right?
They didn't have real control over it until, like I said,
the Protestant Reformation changed a hell of a lot of things.
This is when the king rejected the pope the pope's power because like literally up until
then the pope ruled everything under the catholic church the pope was the boss the kings were all
under the pope you know and then king henry the eighth was like i've had enough of this and this
is where the protestant uh religion came in and it happens, I think it's like the main religion in England now.
I mean, there's like my family.
Most of the people who came to America were Protestants,
or at least a large majority of them coming over were Protestant.
Yeah, back in the original days, yeah.
But they were...
Yeah, 1500s, 1600s, yeah.
Yeah, but they weren't escaping because of the religion.
They were escaping because of oppression and taxes is what they were escaping.
The pugilists, the original.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure religion played a part for some people.
But, yeah.
Well, this is interesting, Wade.
So have you watched any documentaries about
the protestant reformation before or not it's been a while but yeah i'm familiar with it
it's extremely interesting how loads of people had to pretend to be protestant but they weren't really
and so wanting to get the f out yes what you are dude there's this whole this is oh there's this
amazing documentary man about how they were like hiding in secret the catholics
and practicing their religion and like the ones that got caught and the ones that were like
publicly executed and it's like it's a real dark moment like dark period in british history but it's
really interesting like It would have started
with the, well, going into the end of the Tudor period and then into the stewards. So
like the 1500s, you know, you had like Henry the Six, you had Henry the Eighth, etc. Then
you had Queen Elizabeth the First.
You said that was the house of Tudor, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah because the tudors became the uh
prominent dynasty you know now it's like the windsors the tudors became the prominent dynasty
after the plantagenists was it the eighth henry the eighth was the last of the tudors
if i'm not mistaken uh no because queen well queen elizabeth the first would have been right
that's what that's what it was yep yep yep she was the mad one you know that used to wear the big things around her neck you
see her on the movie she's the one that sent like sir walter riley around the world and that you
know to find the potato potato uh like she was getting right into she's the one that built up
the navy like she was mad you know her she was actually like the mad queen she would
fucking kill you as soon as lucky at that woman but she was really like trying to advance like
she had no kids you know she didn't take a suit there she had no children this is where the whole
thing about uh mary queen of scots and all that her sister and all that came in and why they had
to kill her yeah uh but she was a very very very successful very successful monarch She wielded a lot of power
She was very, very cunning
She was also highly educated, by the way
She could speak like seven languages
Like obviously including ancient Greek and Latin and stuff
She was an incredibly, incredibly intelligent girl
But there's a lot of rumours that she was a dyke.
So she, I mean, it's pretty much, it's well known that she was a lesbian.
All right.
Oh, fuck. That's funny.
Dude, man, the royal family, the history of the royal family in England,
I've told you before, right?
It's one of the most twisted stories.
There's no Game of Thrones can ever compete with the British royal family. Like like if you go back i wonder if game of thrones was modeled after that
like i said the other day right there's this there's history and then there's like history right
and this makes me want to go watch game of thrones again mate i'll send you a documentary
a full documentary of the plantagenists
so when it really started was when uh king henry ii roared over in his boat from france with matilda
matilda should have been queen queen of england and matilda the first and she got bumped and she
was so angry about it so she off to the continent she raised her her fucking kid, a warrior, Henry II.
And it was, so 1066 was the Battle of Hastings.
Then there was obviously like the Anglo fucking Saxon shit going on.
And then Henry came over in 1158, I believe.
I'm pretty sure I've got that date right because 1066, 1158, I've got that date right.
Henry came over on the boat with Matilda and a small army in 1158 and then essentially like they went on to like gather armies and get
in with either the landowners had their own armies and so they traveled from the coast through to
london and they built up and king henry ii ended up taking it over england that's when the real true
up taking it over england that's when the real true like dynasty that you can really trace all
the shit before then you know harold edward the conqueror edward the confessor all of that shit
goes like previous the real shit in england started with the reign of the plantagenists
it's called and that was 1158 when he landed on english soil and then is there a place where all this history
was stored like how do you guys like where was the history of like we've got it all well the monks
were writing all the books back in them days man weren't they you know we're talking about the
monks the benedictine monks yeah yeah yeah i'm just curious if there's like a big library everything
was in all this stuff everything was in latin back in those days you know
you got to remember everything was documented in latin every single thing was documented in latin
all of the old books in england are all written in latin up to around up to around uh 1500s
late late 1400s early 1500s and then they started writing stuff obviously in uh old english to
middle english they wrote a lot of stuff in french actually back in the day as well
but like like dude that's what i'm saying about queen elizabeth the first man
she could like speak i like or fluently write like latin ancient greek uh old english spanish
like french like proper like full on, really like intelligent
Cluedo person.
But mate, when you follow the story of like Henry II, Henry III, Edward III, and you look
at the like Game of Thrones doesn't even come close.
Like they would kill, dude, they were killing their own families, man.
They were like, they'd kill their were like they'd kill their like they'd
kill their brother's kids to stop their brother's kids having any like claim on the throne and that
you like that was scary crazy man blood's the tank i hate to do this to you but i gotta i
gotta bounce right now i got a meeting going on in the background i'm i've extended my stay
while on this meeting longer than I normally would.
So I'm going to bounce here.
Always love the Funky Fridays.
This is awesome.
I'll catch you guys later.
He hates me.
See you later, bud.
Thank you, guys.
Tank, you would have loved to see you today.
We've had some great conversations but you know
we called it the great debate we were trying to debate over two particular items the first one
is you know is trump in the right to be doing what he's doing in dc uh you know he is legally
but in your opinion as an american citizen you know do you think he's
in the right doing what he's doing with dc and seeing the might extend it to other troubled
cities and the other one we were talking about was obviously ice and the risk of like or what's
happened with like collateral damage if you know you round up 1.6 million people you're going to catch a couple of innocent people in the net uh i don't know how you feel about that
what's happening right now tank i mean we talked a little bit about england and how much we're in
but we have been a lot more focused on the us yeah
hopefully my hopefully my audio is okay i just got my know if I wasn't Finally got a day off to goof around the house and clean vehicles and shit like that. So
Again apologize if it just gets all wonky, but uh, so first off
Do I agree like basically the question is like how do I feel about?
Uh, oh man, that's not gonna work
How do I feel about the leader of my country doing the things that he's doing? I'm not going to even pretend to know the pressure or even comprehend that kind of
pressure of making decisions that affect people on that scale. I will tell you from experience,
and any business owner can tell you this kind of stuff, you're never going to be able,
just mathematically and just in general in life, you're never going to be able just mathematically
and and just in general in life you're never going to be able to satisfy everybody and make
everybody feel good it's just not possible uh so with that being said like you know it do i agree
with what he's doing in dc do i agree with what he's doing with ice um for the like i agree with
the notion i agree like you know and and and anything you can
find a way to cherry pick and nitpick what you disagree about or even the most conservative in
agreeing person can find something down the line that you're like oh that doesn't make me feel
comfortable like do i like that ice is probably more than likely and definitely has picked up
innocent people and torn some families like a sunder and stuff like that
no of course not not you know i'm a human being i don't like that shit but do i agree that something
needs to be done and and and in this regards like yeah it's you know it's it's kind of what i was
but like the the you know like when people get polarized by fear or polarized by the consequences that nothing ever happens.
That's what's been happening for decades now, at least being getting pushed by the opposition.
Right. I'm not even going to say the Democratic side, because a lot of people, even Republicans, independents and stuff like that, all get caught up in this.
for X, Y reasons, do this to take care of this problem that we know is a problem and will get
out of hand eventually, but because I'm worried about votes later down the line or support being
lost for, you know, my political position or whatever it is, or even just like socially,
like if I come out as a person and tell my auntie who is on the complete other side,
how I feel like, is she going to ostracize me and not come to the family functions anymore?
People get polarized by fear or consequence,
even though they know that things need,
something has to happen.
And it's unfortunate,
right?
Like it's to the point now,
and it's going to sound so heartless where it's like,
it's a numbers game.
Some people are going to get caught in it and
you just got to hope and pray and and and and and you know again i guess hope to pray is the best
way to put it that our political system is going to be able to get the people that are innocent
that are caught up in the middle of it out and you know and i don't know if composite is the
right word or whatever but they'll be able to weed them out. But we got to do something.
We can't just sit around and do nothing.
Right.
Yeah.
Thanks.
So we talked, we talked about this the other day, right?
It's like what we call a dragnet effect.
Right.
So what's happening in these big sweeps, these big raids, et cetera, it's a dragnet.
And there will be, it's, there's bound to be innocent people caught up in it,
but due process will actually sort that out
before actually people get deported out of the country.
It's inevitable that there is going to be collateral damage, right?
Yeah, and like, you know,
and I get some people are going to be like,
oh, the due process, they shouldn't even have to.
I'm like, hey, you know, life is like,
I think it goes back to that one thing that mama always told everybody.
But some for some reason or another, nobody wants to listen about motherfuckers.
Life ain't fair.
Not even in the United States.
You're not promised shit.
Like you're promised, like you're promised process.
Due process.
That's what you're promised in the United States. That you have rights.
It doesn't mean that you can't be held.
It doesn't mean, honestly, it means that you have a process that you are entitled to receive.
Whether that's fair or not, it doesn't matter.
But, like, you will have a process that you will go through.
And it's not like these other countries where you just get missing And that's all you ever get
Like you know what I mean
People get caught up in this whole fucking humanitarian
I deserve this
Or it's my right and stuff like that
Like motherfuckers
No it's not and you're living a fucking stupid ass life
You really do believe that
Tank the crazy thing is
Wait a minute the crazy thing is right
Is that you can like basically prove Like with these gang members, like, some of them are legal immigrants on day one, but they still get due process where they will wait in a nice detention facility, and then they'll be in front of an immigration lawyer thing at the minute. So like, even if you are illegal, they know you're illegal.
Everybody knows you're illegal.
You're a gang member, right?
You've committed crimes in other countries,
blah, blah, blah, whatever.
You're still getting due process in America.
And think about that.
Think about that as United States citizen.
I'm paying for that process.
Like I am.
My taxpayer, my tax money goes to that.
You know, if I live in that state,
if it's happening in my state
especially like i pay for that process for for people to have that and so like again it all it
trickles down to so many different like aspects and and functions of our society and and how we
actually operate on a day-to-day like all of that stuff affects me as a u.s. Citizen as a taxpayer as a human being trying to do right by my family feed my family and you know
Step up the ladder if you will and so like yeah, do I want that shit to be taken care of? Hell?
Yeah, do I feel bad about people that get caught in a crossfire? Of course
Would I change anything? I don't I don't fucking know do I think Trump is right about it?
I don't I don't know what like that that is right about it i don't i don't know what
like that that that whole argument of like what's right what's wrong that's a argument like you know
like i just i just think people need to realize like nothing's right nothing's wrong like it's
a process and do you know what the echr is enough echr no it's the european court of human rights
right we left we had had Brexit and we left
ages ago, right? And we're still being ruled, right? Legally by the European Court of Human
Rights. Now, you're not going to believe this. All these illegals, right? And the numbers are
insane. Like, you've got no idea. In the last year alone, over 100,000 people have claimed
illegal asylum in the UK.
Dude, we've got no room.
We've got no money.
We've got no resources.
We are bursting at the seams.
We're in debt over our eyeballs, right?
And do you know that we're kind of just deposed?
Yeah, there's tons of examples that we can use from America, like standing in America across the seas and go, if we don't do something, we're going to end up just like that.
We're going to end up just like that.
We already are on the tip of the line You know, we can't deport anybody under the
European Court of Human Rights, right?
Because we've got all of these
You know, the ambulance chase the lawyers
You had back in the day, right?
Well, they're not chasing ambulances anymore
They're chasing illegal immigrants
No, I'm sure
That's way more profitable
Oh, it's ridiculous, dude
You wouldn't believe how long and how much grief these people so we had uh a pakistani uh dual
nationality that had committed these like horrendous like heinous rapes and everything
right and sexual assaults in the uk right and you know what he did to stop being deported he ripped
his fucking passport up, right?
And Pakistan said that they wouldn't take him back or issue him a new passport.
That's great.
That's great.
And you know, it's even more crazy to kind of like further that whole thing.
These lawyers who are probably government-issued or government or government supported are just taking from the
so like they're it's like a dog eating its own tail you know i mean it's like fucking it's crazy
it's fucking nuts well you think you think there might be problems in the u.s right but they are
nothing compared to what how bad it is in the uk in the uk it is really really really at a tip and
point though i'm telling you bro oh no no we know we we know it we see it
i mean like i said it unfortunate you guys are the example for the argument right like
so like the question you're saying yeah i mean i guess i do feel oh i mean for the most like
trump's got to do what they got to do anybody not Trump, anybody in power at any given time has to do what they have to do for the masses, for the people, for the overall good.
Is it, is it right or wrong?
I don't know, but you got to do it.
Leading is not about like humanitarian stuff, dude.
Here's a one for you though, Tank, right?
So listen to this, yeah.
I think it was about the 7th of august he made the declaration about washington and the
federal takeover right from the home rule that they'd had at this like loose agreement since
the 70s okay think about this right not one judge anywhere in the country or within dc not one
district judge right nobody's filed for an injunction. There's been no criminal proceedings,
or sorry, no judicial proceedings against Trump for what's happening in Washington,
even after he had more injunctions
in the first four months of his term
than like Obama, Biden, and Bush,
and Clinton like before him, right?
So it's like he'd had the most,
he'd had more injunctions
than all of the last presidents
of the last 25 years put together
in their double terms,
in all of their terms, their whole
terms. He'd had more injunctions
in the first four months against them than
all of those people combined together.
Think about this.
He hasn't had one
district judge try to have an injunction or a
court ruling against what he's done in dc what does that tell you every single thing that he is
doing in dc is above the law right it's like like on the money like he hasn't put a foot out of
place right not like the illegal immigrant stuff and all of this stuff and the insurrection act and
the alien enemies act of 1796 and all of this right all of these injunctions is that against them all
what he's doing in dc the not one person can see anything you know why because it's totally above
board so whatever whatever happens whatever's going on whatever he's doing there and apparently
it's working and it's working really really well carjackings are down 87 in two weeks which is a crazy number in two weeks like people can't
believe it even the cops are like we didn't think this was possible like think about it so the the
ice thing is obviously a bigger thing it's it's a it's a national stage issue compared to something
like washington which is quite like localized right but again he's only enforcing federal laws that
are on the books like i tried to have this like with five on it the other day that like dude like
ice are doing their job cbp are doing their job uh hsi and uh homeland security dsh are doing their
job they're not actually breaking any laws even these injunctions that
come out they keep out they go to the appellate courts or whatever of the supreme court anyway
and they're just getting battered away swatted away like flies trump is operating solely and
this is what i fully believe looking at all and you know everything trump is operating 100%
totally within the law on every single thing that he's doing.
Yes, one or two mistakes have happened, administrative errors, right?
That's gonna happen.
That's gonna happen when you're fucking rounding up, you know, 1.6 million people.
All right?
Shit's gonna happen.
But, like, he ain't doing anything, like, against the law.
So we had this, not an argument, but a debate, I'll call it.
We had this debate with Five on it the other day about the farms in California.
And I was trying to explain to them that at the end of the day, whatever you say about the raids on the farm and the tear gas and the families and this and that,
there were nine unaccompanied foreign miners that were working on a weed farm to pay off right the the what are
the coyotes that have brought them across the border right you're talking like 12 13 14 15
year old kids that are not going to school that are working out there in the blazing heat in California, right, on a fucking weed farm, 12 hours a day, seven days a week, right,
to pay back the money to the coyotes who brought them illegally across the border.
In what world can anybody justify not only slave labor,
not only child exploitation and slave labor, right?
How can anybody in the world justify, like, having young kids in 2025, having, like, 13, 14-year-old kids, yeah, work on a weed farm,
12 hours a fucking day in the slave and son, to pay off, to work for years and years and years,
to pay off the five grand or seven grand or ten grand or whatever it
was for a coyote to get them safely across the border and in the united states unaccompanied
like in what world in what world can you justify that that that going out like stopping it is bad
i'm sorry like there's just no no world i live in am i willing for you to like for anybody to say
to me oh robbo these kids like they're 14 13
wanted to come to the us so that they said they would go on like work slave work on a farm
like in the californian sun on a weed farm a fucking weed farm for the next like five years
again it's it's like i don't know it just comes i'm a firm believer of like
rules right like there's rules and stuff like that and if you if you come into a game
and you are educated on the rules um or not or not but if you just come into the game and the game
or the structure environment that you're coming into has set parameters set rules that need to
be obliged according to the game according to an environment uh it is what
it is right like if if if you break them if you're trying to operate within those rules like and and
then eventually the the bill comes that you have to pay like it just kind of is what it is i i don't
it's it's hard for me to feel bad or sad like i'm i do but like you know i'm human too and stuff like that like you gotta
to me i know people like oh that's so extreme and take your well off that's not really what
it's like no it actually is if you like if you think about it anybody that comes anybody that
comes in to my country to my state especially my county even more illegally you know doing the
things that they're doing even even if they're good, like
good quote unquote, good people, but they're working illegally. They're not paying their taxes.
They're just kind of taking from the system and not putting back into it. You're, you are costing
me money. You are costing my employees, uh, opportunities and money that I could possibly
be paying them if things were different. Right. You are taking from not only my children, but my neighbor's children and et cetera, et cetera,
opportunities that they might be getting at school, you know, upgraded equipment that they
could possibly be getting, but instead we're using it to better your life when you're not
putting anything back in here. Like I saw this thing, um, on, on X, uh, about this
girl, I guess, who had so many damn children, forget what state it was. I think it's maybe
Ohio or something like that, but like they're requiring them. I don't know if it was that
state or not. So don't quote me, but they're requiring her to, in order to get $2,000 worth
of food stamps, uh, every month, $2,000. That's a lot of fucking money in food benefits from the government
Uh, I don't care how many kids you have two thousand dollars. That's a lot of money. Um
But in order for her to keep getting it she has to do like 15 hours
Uh a week of community service and she's like that's bullshit and all this other stuff. I'm like
No, that's that's called
Putting in work to receive something like all this whole take and not put in is insanity.
So I don't know, dude.
Again, it doesn't...
Do you know about welfare?
You know about welfare, right?
You know, obviously, welfare.
What do you call it?
I mean, I know about welfare.
I've never been on welfare.
No, not you personally, but in America, you call it welfare.
So in England, we used to call it like the dole,
you know, job seekers' whatever right so you know you know back in the day uh you know if you were on the dole in
germany so this is like early early like late 1990s early 2000s not even that long ago in germany
if you were claiming like welfare or whatever do you know that you had to go out and like clean
the bins right and you had to clean the bins for like one euro per hour and you had to go out and like clean the bins right and you had to clean
the bins for like one euro per hour and you had to go out and clean like you know the rubbish bins
like in the city center and the parks and all yeah it's still it's still way better than having
a 40-hour job yeah like that's mother and stuff like that it's like oh i can't do it because i
have kids i got you know i can't even find a regular job because of all these things.
It's like, you're still getting assistance.
You're still getting a far more benefit than you are putting into the pot.
Like 15 hours a week for $2,000 in food benefits.
Think about it.
She's probably even getting more than that.
She's probably got Medicaid and all these like full health benefits and stuff like that,
that you're not paying for.
And just to put in 20 hours, like you can put in 20 hours.
Dude.
Like you can do.
It's crazy.
Oh, is that your son?
Was that your son going to speak there?
Yeah, yeah.
He's, he's, he's, he's arguing about this appliance thing that we put in his mouth.
Okay.
Well, mom's going to have to just rip your teeth out then, I guess.
So $2,000. Mom's going to have to rip your teeth out then i guess so two two thousand two thousand dollars hey mom's gonna have to rip
your teeth out how funny is that given the fucking given what tanks missus does the uh
what you've just said that two thousand dollars right uh a month which is 72 000 but you know
uh think about this right with the minimum wage here and how shit goes right i mean the
minimum wage in bangkok is a little bit more but the average for thailand will be 9 000 baht
a month right and these people have to go out and work like between like anywhere between 40 or 60
hours per week depending on if the bus drives or whatever right you're talking 40 to
60 hours a week like cleaning toilets or driving a bus or proper work right for 9 000 baht and
you're talking about some woman kicking off expected to earn 72 000 baht a month to do 15
hours a week community service that's just scandalous was. Was it a week or a month? I think it's a month.
15 hours a week.
Dude, these
see, these are oxygen
thieves. These are
oxygen thieves, right? And I do
want to say this because I'm going to wind it down now.
We've been going on for a while. It's been recorded.
We might spin up an unrecorded
a bit later when B-Bands and that come back.
Because I'm up for a while, mate. I'm going out for a walk at the lake in a minute with a jimmy cliff but i'm just gonna say this and this is my feeling and i might sound like you know a
bit stoic or a bit of a spartan and but i am right and i don't care like i've had to live on the
ground man i've had to live on the street i've had to've had to live on the street. I've had to live in a van. Like, I've fucking done.
I've survived, man, and built myself up, right?
I've built myself up, and then I've lost everything.
And I've built myself up again, and I've lost everything.
All right?
Been on the bottom of a fucking prison cell floor down in the block in Durham, right?
With people going to, groups of fucking people shouting how much they're going to rape me.
Like, I've been through it all.
And I'm just just gonna say this look we didn't build civilization on emotions we didn't build civilization it's just self accountability right that's all it really is like success is a choice i firmly believe that success
is a choice it's also a grind and all this other stuff but you gotta choose to do what you need to
do to become successful if you want to choose to be a fucking burden on society and
give yourself reasons and why this and that and why it's so hard it's gonna be fucking hard
right but you gotta choose success and the girl like again going to the example or anybody the
example about like oh i got they say she has nine kids whatever it is like i can't get a job because
i have nine kids well again it's just self, I can't get a job because I have nine kids.
Well, again, it's just self-accountability, right? You can't blame everybody else and say, I don't want to do this and that because of my past decisions.
At some point, you got to say to yourself, where's the baby dads?
How come they're not paying child support?
How come you kept having kids after realizing probably after the third one that you couldn't support them?
Like, you're making these bad decisions.
You're making these bad decisions you're making these bad decisions probably in the state that she was at she was probably actually
being awarded some sort of fucking monetary or some kind of uh financial benefit for having kids
and not being able to do this and that so she figured out like hey for this time in her life
it's it's actually easier for me to slack off and give excuses and not do shit and claim my kids
when really at the end of it all when something
else turns like trump or a political or whatever like you know the governor says no more of this
stuff because you're draining our state or our government like you gotta choose like 15 hours
a week for two thousand dollars of food benefits is massive it's it's that's mass i want two thousand
Food benefits is massive.
It's, that's massive.
I want $2,000.
I spend fucking easily $500 when I go to Costco.
And like, that could last.
That could, and again, that again goes back to decisions.
That could last me.
What the fuck are you buying that doesn't last you for a month?
Even if you have nine kids.
Success is a choice.
Have you seen the video?
Have you seen the video circling around on social media over, like,
the last 72 hours where the woman, she tries to, you know,
how they've, like, clamped down, you know, with Robert Kennedy
and that, right, with HHS and stuff.
Do you know where they've clamped down on, like, what you can buy
with, like, the food stamps and that?
I forgot what they call them again.
Begins with S. What's the name again? The food stamps and that I forgot what they call them again Begins with S What's the name again? The food stamps
You know where there's like
Clam Deli, you can't buy like Coca-Cola
And that now
You know what I'm talking about, right?
No, I don't, but I hope so
Because that shit is bad, that stuff is all bad for you
Oh, the junk shit and that
So your woman's in the supermarket
This big black woman,
and she's going fucking mad because the food stamps don't cover
all of the stuff, like in her trolley.
And it's because of, like, the clampdown on what they've done.
I'm trying to remember the name of the particular thing
that it's called, the particular food stamp.
But she's got mad because, like, they've changed the regulations
and she can't
buy like 10 bottles of cola or fucking 15 bottles of fun really she's she's getting mad because the
government's saving her life yeah actually helping her with obesity and and all kinds of probably
underlining issues for us all levels stuff like that but she's just mad because she can't feed
her addiction it's crazy right correct correct and can't it's just what i
was saying earlier you know about you know no civilizations were ever built right on feelings
or emotions right but it's like no wars and we've had a lot important ones as well defeating fascism
in their 90s in their 1930s whatever 1940s no wars were ever won with liberal tears i'm sorry like that's the
point that i'm at and i know there's loads of like young people who listen to us and you know they've
been through the indoctrination and western universities and blah blah blah but if you come
to rakfm pretty much you're not one of those people you're one of us who like sees things as
they are ain't no wars were ever won with liberal tears
just like ain't no civilization was ever created with feelings or emotions
like like this is why we wanted to have a debate today and take away that like look dude i don't
care what you're feeling like i didn't care like what you think tell me what you know
Like, I didn't care what you think.
Tell me what you know.
What's happening on the ground?
What are the facts?
What are the laws?
What's written into the Constitution so Trump can do what he's doing?
Aye.
Why are there no legal challenges?
I'm going to wind it down now, people, because we've had...
Spaces has been ruggy all fucking night.
We've had people in and out.
We've had people DMs complaining. We've had people in and out without people DMS complaining
We've already wound one down and then started another
But this one's been going like what to not over two and a half hours
So it's time to wind down tank. I wish you were in earlier. You'd love the combo bro. We went
I've been missing a lot of stuff been busy as hell at the meds bar and stuff that and at the other office but no i appreciate you guys you guys have a good day man i'm gonna
get back to washing his car with this kid tank just tell your kids hey liberal tea has never
won no wars okay that's all i've got to know right yeah watch what you're doing brother
take care uh rad bro take care net of doubt it's been rack fm it's been a bit of a mad space lots
of people's have lots of problems connecting reconnecting blah blah blah but we've managed to get through it
uh this was the great debate for what it was worth and it's rack fm august the 22nd it is a friday
enjoy your weekend people we love you loads catch on monday take care good night and god bless bye
bye people On Monday, take care. Good night and God bless. Bye-bye, people.
