Reality Check: Abstract XP Update

Recorded: March 20, 2026 Duration: 1:39:22
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Thank you. I'm just grinding like I'm told.
I'm just trying to sell my soul.
It goes on and on it goes.
It goes on and on it goes.
We've been fighting, running for some time now.
Should we kill somebody?
It's time to find out.
I've been a well-behaved artist.
I've been selling my soul.
I've been prostituting my losses.
Been rocking that road.
Been cranking that soldier, boy.
I'm hitting that road.
It's been hard to find happy.
I'm clinging. I'm hitting that note.
I've been unloved up dreams. You can happy. I'm clinging. I'm hitting that note. I've been out loud, though, dreams.
You can't say I didn't try.
Pain's guaranteed.
Do you want to hurt by my side?
Got an ongoing tide.
People picking their sides.
When I think about my lives, I'm going to be alive when I die.
Pretty sure somebody got to die for it.
Just bought myself a politician.
I'm going to sneak through the motherfucking side door.
Let's get online. Let's just trying to sell my soul.
It goes on and on it goes.
It goes on and on it goes. It goes on and on it goes.
We been fighting, running for some time now.
Should we kill somebody? It's time to find out.
Muddo, muddo.
I got muddo on my mind.
Grab a body in the woods.
Dissect, kick them diggo, pick pick, then bury it It's tricky, bloody
We're the profit, let me profit
When we're in your hood
Rum is gang, we pimpin' pain
I'm bleed for fame, but it's okay
Five syllables I bled for music
Four syllables it fed me, though
Three syllables it saved me
Two syllables, crazy
One syllable, gold
Shameless, everybody's shameless
Monetised, lied to get Instagram famous
Following blind, either mindless and brainless
The game is contagious, the pain in the anus
My homeostasis is waking up wasted
Telling the mommies you to make money of the struggle
Living in my western bog, ooh
Trying to make rocks in the bra, ooh, fuck it
I'm on a cheek coat on
Pull up with a prof with a tin stool on
Do a drive-by on a politician bitch, die-dive
I'm famous, mom!
I'm just grinding like I'm told
I'm just trying to shell my soul
Oh, yeah It goes on and on it goes I'm just grinding like I'm told. I'm just trying to show my soul.
It goes on and on it goes.
It goes on and on it goes.
We been, we been, we been, we been excited.
Running for some time now.
Yeah, we been running for some time.
Should we kill somebody?
It's time to find out. Yep. Yep. Anything bad happening to you today? Tell me something bad. Tell me something bad that happened to you today.
My brother, we got about 15 seconds of song. There's not enough time, bro. Oh, well, let's
get down to business then. Make sure to pack the Glock lines. All right. All right. Let's
get it going. Happy Friday, everyone. Happy Friday.
Welcome in to chaos.
How'd you start the space 10 minutes late
and Kenny Powersville not here?
I don't know, bro.
Don't know.
It wasn't 10 minutes late.
It's 10 minutes late now that the music has ended,
but I was hosting for my partner, Diem,
and now we're live here. I was hosting for my partner, Diem.
And now we're live here.
Hopefully we don't get too chaotic today.
But it's Friday.
And you never know what's going to happen.
Bro, I was right in the middle of Captain Space and I was talking.
And I have a little table that sits next to my desk and i went to go set my drink down and the table is a little bit further back than what i'm used to and the fucking whole thing
just i'm talking about a whole entire fucking thing full of water just went everywhere ice
cubes and it was a shit show um but one wasn't coffee yeah oh man at least everything ain't
sticky and yeah yeah no if it uh bro if it would have been coffee lord of mercy lord of mercy
yeah i'm balls deep in a machine right now basically upside down by the way so it's all
good i really hear air leaks and shit all around me forgive the background noise it's
all good i really said he was going to come up we haven't heard from the guy said he was going to
lock in he hasn't locked in uh i think it's time we go with his z cards uh go try and get a lizzie
or a teacher katie uh instead of this guy what is going on here uh but anyways live on x live on kick and abstract as always uh we do not let the
party stop on abstract uh gonna be there live every day doesn't matter oh look he was able to
find the request button see if we can get some updates when this guy's gonna actually come back and start showing up and working on some spaces here um aurelius gm how are we or good afternoon for you sir
well well well well well yeah forgot what your voice sounded like
bro the propaganda out of your American mouth right now.
You've been listening too much to that fat orange bloke at the top.
It's called freedom, sir.
We're allowed to say what we want.
I know you are.
You fucking presidents of Hmong.
Anyway, we're not going to get into that because that's just ruthless.
Look, I said I'd lock in.
I locked in IRL first, secured a new role today.
Just got told about that.
That's harsh that you're going to wape my card.
I've not even wapeed yours yet.
Oh, yeah, that's Ape, isn't it?
That's Ape, bro.
Holy shit.
Oh, my God.
I'm gay L2, Aurelius.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
We've literally had that boost on Bearish where they went from i genuinely thought bearish were going to 20 by may but
they went up 234 this morning now they're back down but anyway bro cares about floor price
yeah who cares you're here for the vibes the community and the people that you get to know
uh bosu kev what's up get your ass up on Yeah, Aurelius, it's good to hear your voice.
I understand sometimes IRL things do get in the way
of being able to become the best host that you can be.
You know, we want you to be a strong little pink bear.
But sometimes, you know, bears even have to hibernate.
And we get it. We get it.
Other than that, I hope you're well.
I've only weathed a few
of your cards, and I will be
honest with that.
I am still holding the pink bear.
You're hurting my feelings.
But I had to make some plays.
I thought this guy was going to be my new favorite
spaces host, and then he just stopped
showing up altogether.
An idiot. If I want to showing up altogether. I know.
An idiot, an idiot, an idiot.
Look, if I want to show up today, I can still do it.
I've got it within me.
Look, I'm just out here getting massive.
I've got it within me.
He says Americans are good at propaganda.
Listen to this guy.
Oh, my God.
Dude, dude, don't even get me started on you fuckers at the moment.
Holy shit.
It is wild.
It is wild. I'm even talking to
Demi on the phone. Jesus.
This is literally going to impact your economy.
It's going to impact your economy.
I'm not going to come to Tennessee because
there's an orange fucking toupee wearing
Monk written about the gaff and I've got to
dodge him at every cost.
Yeah, but he won't cause you to get
arrested just for posting on X.
Just be glad that your UK MFs
have no natural resources for us to be interested in.
Or we might be over there delivering
a little bit of freedom.
That is true. The minerals aren't
over in the UK.
Not to mention you.
you said you spoke to her.
I thought that might have been a problem.
You had to disappear off the timeline because women issues.
But I don't get it twisted.
Don't get it twisted.
She can be a problem with a capital P, but she's a good girl.
And no issue there.
We're just both locking in.
We're just both locking in.
This guy's holding it down overseas.
That's wild.
I can't even hold it down.
And mine was right here in the same state in the same
house. And she can't keep a hamster
alive, let alone a relationship.
Oh, oh, shit.
Yeah. Look at this guy coming at
me. You know what?
There's not gonna be any violence today. You know
why? Because Chuck Norris died.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Died Chuck Norris.
Okay, get it right died chuck norris
man what a sad day the funniest thing i used to like was uh when conan would do the chuck
norris bit oh my god bro shit was so funny but that was when conan was able to have fun
um anyways wheels gm what's up bro what's up
i heard a lot of talk about bears i'm very bullish on on bears i know so you're buying you're buying
the wrong bears though what do you mean they're they're cool they're coming from bear chain
right they're they're steady and they're teddies is that not the bears we're talking about here? Is that not the one? Oh my God, brother.
Holy shit.
You bought bears on the L2 that already rugged.
Oh my God, dude.
It's the honest mistake, brother.
So did they announce that they're migrating to mainnet?
They are migrating to mainnet.
I mean, how bullish is that?
You know, they're moving chains.
They were created for a specific chain and now they're leaving that specific chain. Bull so i have four actually three i sold one took some profit on one and holding three
ready to ready to roll nice nice uh well i hope i hope you're able to make your gains back i don't
know what they're going to do on this on you know main net that they couldn't do on their own chain
but hey you know sometimes founders have to pivot.
Maybe they should have came to abstract with the new XP boost.
That's my guess.
They should have bridged to abstract.
Well, I think the problem is they don't transact, right?
That's why bear chain is not doing well.
So I don't think a boost would help, right?
So 20% of zero is still zero.
That's very true.
Aurelius, she had your hand up bruv is it true that fucking bearish are um about to bridge the ape chain anyway
i don't know why you're hanging out on the other side so much maybe that's where you came from
you're about to have a mutant bear but no i'm just going where the uh where the bags are well no the bags
aren't high and anywhere are they they're not yeah all my ape chain nfts they put themselves
in their hidden folder i was looking for something the other day and opened it like i think they just
actually just went over there themselves because i never put them there um yeah no uh no it's not
happening kyle did you hear yesterday on captain Space where the guy said he heard someone that he thought was on the Bears team say that Bears was going to actually be leaving?
And I think he was talking about what you had said on the space, on our space the day prior.
Oh, my God, dude.
Oh my God.
People don't even understand that anymore.
Yeah, do you remember the conversation
we were having about different brands that could possibly
people leave in abstract
and then he heard you talking about
NFTs possibly leaving and he must
have said something bearish.
About bearish.
Yeah, 100%. It gets the wrong idea.
I don't think anybody should
abandon that track.
Just jokes, folks.
Just jokes.
I thought the handle would have made that clear enough
for everybody, but I guess not.
Look at this guy.
18 minutes late.
No, 19 minutes late
until he gets on stage.
This motherfucker,
this is the...
Wow. He was up early, fucking flexing
his bears and stuff, too. I know he was awake.
He was up at
10 o'clock posting, bro.
And now, Kenny, I sent you
an invite, and I sent you
a co-host, I think.
Yeah, you are a co-host.
Oh, co-hosts are usually here when the music's
playing but yo dude when i first got on about 15 minutes ago there was no space and i saw you're
in another space so i figured it was getting pushed back oh no he's seen me in the dm space
and was like oh we're probably not going to be live he went way down abandon that audience of he started he started watching
he started watching the uh dvr and then lost track of time yeah so yeah um all right well
welcome in anyways uh kev what's up man how you doing yo oh good man you guys yeah doing great uh trying to close out the
week see what kind of see what kind of craziness uh unfoils today it seems like a pretty laid-back
day for the most part um i want to jump right into the the abstract xp nft update stuff how do
you foresee this rolling out how do you think they're gonna choose the top nft
that's a good question um i'm not really sure at this point to be honest like um at a convo
while back with the abstract team i felt like i feel like lately final boss somehow it's not
really being mentioned anymore by the abstract
team like as well the uh there was this portal update last time and all ips were in there we were
not um well how do we get uh bosu back in the conversation that's what i don't know
like i've asked them the question and uh yeah i didn't really get a clear answer so i hope i hope
there's definitely some unchained activity that answer so i hope i hope there's definitely
some unchained activity that we'll be looking at because there's like track records i think that
uh especially these last well for sure the last 30 days we had we had all the highest sales happening
um one of the highest volume as well but i think it's's... Yeah, I mean, last...
So when I look at it, 30 days,
the last 30 days,
Zeke created cards number one,
final BOSU number two.
When I go to the...
Yep, when I go to the seven-day,
final BOSU is still number three.
Still one of the very top brands
on abstract.
When you go to one day, you're still in the top five.
There's this new abstract OG punks.
This is what I was concerned about
when they announced this,
is if people are thinking they're going to go off volume
and transactions and people creating these...
Well, that's not the first one either.
This is like kind of an ape chain meta now,
all of a sudden, where he's like ruggy.
There was abstract penguins.
Now there's abstract punks.
Right now there's also, I think, still minting a GigaChad badge mint.
I don't know.
We're very quickly walking the path of a thousand weird ruggy projects being launched.
But look, I think, you know,
these guys are probably trying to set themselves up
to try to game some system.
I'm sure that the abstract team
is going to kind of manually do some of this
because, I don't know.
I mean, the only way I can imagine them doing it
is based off of volume.
And so people will try to game volume,
but it'll be kind of obvious
what are real projects and what aren't.
Well, I think one of the biggest indicators needs to be that it's a verified brand on Abstract's portal.
If you're not verified, then guess what?
You need to show the fuck up.
You need to show out.
You need to show the team what your plan is because i know in these telegram
chats you know when you're onboarding with raj and anyone else that he brings in from the abstract
team they want to see what you're doing they want to see what your goals are with your brand with
your ip whether it's a meme coin if you're trying to get verified and shown on the portal they want
to know that you are legitimate you got to be doxxed there's a lot of steps you have to go through you know what though i i would
like to see just to see if it can be done i would like to see a brand build something on abstract
as a chain without relying on the portal and without relying on the abstract team well you
can't get nowhere that way i mean mean, you can't right now.
Nobody's done it yet.
But I mean, look, man, if I want to launch on EVE mainnet,
Metallica ain't going to fucking, you know, retweet my IP, right?
So I don't know.
I would just like to see somebody try to build something serious
without going through those routes
because they're not available elsewhere.
But that's the onboarding process, though. You're not like that's how abstract handles their onboarding for that's how the portal
handles it the blockchain is the blockchain well i get it i could go launch something right now if
i want to yeah but it but it gives it gives it validity when the chain endorses the brand
that's why bosu kev's like well why why are we not in the conversation
i get that but the the portal and the team behind abstract can only endorse so many things for so
long sooner or later things are going to have to start building there on on their own things
you know projects that want to launch there are going to have to, you know, build a community, launch on chain and
stand on their own two legs. I mean, I get in the earliest days why it was beneficial to these
brands and to the abstract team and portal to, you know, kind of curate some of this,
but, you know, sooner or later, things are going to have to stand up on their own.
No, and I get what you're saying, but in order to be featured on portal.abs.xyz,
you have to follow a certain guideline
that the team puts out.
Anybody can build anything on the chain they want.
You can see it with this OG punk shit,
but you're not going to get anywhere if the apps,
when I say support,
that's just even getting verified and on the portal.
Like that's the first big step.
The whole Zeke community were up in arms
because Amigo comes back out of nowhere after eight months.
And it's like, well, fuck Zeke's over here doing all this.
And then the very next day they add it to the featured highlighted apps.
But I do agree that teams have to stand on their own they have to deliver a
roadmap they have to produce things for the community otherwise they're not going to be
in the conversation uh go ahead kev yeah i think ultimately if you think about like um the value
like ultimately it's like a give and take kind of thing, right? And so whatever is in best interest of Abstract,
they need to promote and highlight, right?
If Final Boss who now releases a manga and it blows up over the world,
it's automatic that they will support it, right?
It's kind of like, yeah, almost logical.
And I always felt that from day one, like,
the best thing we can do for ourselves,
but as well for Abstract is just turn Final Boss into something global
so that we actually attract consumers and then slowly onboard them.
I think that's the value that Final Boss can provide to Abstract ultimately,
rather than building now a game for the Abstract community so that they can earn XP
and maybe we can earn a little bit of money there.
But the game is not very optimized for like global scale, for example.
And so I get all of that.
And I think also like our focus should stay very clear.
But sometimes, like honestly, like last time when I saw the portal, it pissed me off for a day.
when I saw the portal, it pissed me off for a day
And then I kind of let go again and stay in my lane.
because it felt almost like a signal to us
of like, you guys don't matter to us anymore.
And I don't know why.
So I think somewhere, you know, after Mint,
obviously Final Boss didn't have the best narrative.
I feel like that has slowly been shifting
and I feel that narrative also plays in the abstract team.
And I don't like look for a lot of validation or even a lot of promotion from their end.
I don't expect it.
We'll do our own thing and when it makes sense, it makes sense.
But I do think sometimes there's this small...
I see abstract engaging all of the time with Fogs on the timeline.
They don't do that with us.
Those are tiny hints. And I kind of asked the us, right? And those are like tiny hints.
And I kind of asked the team about it
so they didn't get clear answers.
They're like...
I think like the whole Giphy thing
is very bullish in their eyes
and very bullish for people in the space.
And I've always seen it as a...
I'm personally not bullish on Giphy at all.
Like I have a very different stance, I think,
than most people in Web3 especially,
since it's one of the most bullish things brands seem to do.
I think it's a waste of money and time.
At this stage, most of these brands are.
But in their eyes, it is.
It's also kind of hard because there's no playbook
from abstract to us of like,
now you are a good brand and we will support you um and so i
think like as a brand as a founder is just like staying in our own lane and one last thing is like
um an idiot do we really call you like that yes you can call him an idiot yep that's right like
i'm insulting you while i'm saying it but fine and an idiot i was mentioning yesterday about
the collector profile it profiles like do you
want to gamify stuff and i actually uh had that conversation this morning with the team about this
and like one of the things we are like very excited about like our collector profiles like
like the ui like it's very clean and there's some gamified elements in it which we're not following
like the typical badges that everybody else is doing. We kind of created our own whole system.
And it's really cool.
But one of the things we really want to pursue is a mobile app that comes with that.
Especially because we get a lot of messages on Instagram.
We're doing a lot of one-on-one DMs with people.
And I literally sell them on the vision.
I make custom Loom videos.
I explain them about OpenSea, about collectibles.
I'm onboarding them.
These are people who never heard of NFTs before
that I'm like one by one jumping on calls with,
really doing the work.
And one of the things I really want for them
is a proper home.
Like, they buy the NFT and the first question,
and now it's like, yeah, now it's in your wallet.
They're like, okay, what does it do there?
You know, like, yeah, it stays there.
It's like, okay, you can wear it as a PFP, right?
Or you have to, if they're not on CT, they don't know these use cases.
So it's art that you can keep.
But one of the things is like, ah, no, now you can open a mobile app and you can open
like your profile and there's a character builder in there.
And you can give your character a name and the bio.
And then we as a franchise, we look at that and we use that and we create animation around
it and we promote that.
And there's like this collaboration. I think this is a use case.
But if we do that, like doing this all on chain on abstract is actually going against that.
And so this is super double because in one hand, it's like it's in the best interest of abstract
if we attract consumers, convert them into NFT buyers on the abstract chain
and give them the best
experience possible but at the same time if we are going to do this all on chain it kind of goes
against the user experience as well especially for the for new people and so yeah i don't have
all the answers well i mean i think the way they see it is their on-chain experience is seamless
so you know you don't necessarily,
when you're having the mass transactions,
you know, you have the session key
and you're not having to sign, you know,
multiple transactions and you just click a button
a couple of times and you're good to go.
I think staying in your own lane is good to a point,
but at some point you got to play the game.
And whether it's figuring out a way to empower the community to create memes and gifts for you with some type of incentivized rewards where there's not so much cost to the team.
I understand it's probably very expensive to hire a team to sit there and create that art.
But now with AI and Claudebot, it seems like you would be able to generate a lot of these memes and GIFs.
And there's got to be some builder.
Somebody's developed some skill out there that can allow you to literally replace some art departments.
You know, a full GIF-y building team that, you know, can generate a lot of this at a lot lower cost and start playing that game,
start including them into your Instagram and giving more exposure.
Because I know Instagram for you guys lately has been a big push and it seems
that it's, it's successful.
But like I seen a tweet from PP Man the other day
where he was just walking in the airport
and had his Pudgy hoodie on.
And a couple recognized him.
And in the thing, they said,
we only get on Instagram to share Pudgy gifts.
Like, that was the only thing.
And I think that would be dope.
I think I know that Bosu has the art and the team
to be the anime ip brand on abstract and nobody else even come close to it because the artwork
in my mind is is bar none hands down the best out of any other you know um anime themed ip not
going to name any other brands um so you guys killed it in that narrative
i just think now you got to grab the attention back and say no you we were here
and we're not going anywhere you know yeah definitely yeah i think maybe one comment i
would make as well on the giphy side is um like i'm not like per se against the idea itself i
just think like for pudgy it made a lot of sense to do that playbook
because it came from a first principle rule.
And I think if you build business from first principle,
I think that's really the way to go.
Like focus on the actual problems that you have.
Like for them, they needed leverage because they were doing licensing deals.
They were going to Walmart.
They, you know, had all of these things.
And so they needed a lot of numbers for that, right?
Like the licensing industry is very,
an industry that's a lot about proof, right?
Hey, I got 60 million views there.
I got 100 million views there.
I work with this brand.
I work with that brand.
Similar to like Ultraman launching on Abstract, right?
It's like, it's not Ultraman launching.
It's somebody that bought the licensing rights
to Ultraman and now launched the collection.
Yeah, and it's done absolutely nothing.
Yeah, and it's smart.
It's the same with the Disney.
It's not Disney on abstract.
It's somebody about the light-wishing rights of Disney.
But those are smart marketing plays
that are often being used, and I get it.
But I think for most brands,
Giphy is now just,
hey, Luke Web 3, we've got all of these views.
We are beating Pokemon, and we're beating Marvel.
I generally think if Pokemon did like like if they would lift their pinky they would absolutely crush it on the giphy side i just don't
think that it is a variable that they're 100 look i don't disagree that it's a thing about metrics
but i also think it's a great way to look everybody uses gifs and if you can get your gifs being
prevalent in giphy then
you know people are people become familiar with your ip it's not just about vanity metrics it's
also about actually making people familiar with the ip um which is you know you could say is maybe
more relevant for cute ip than it is for anime but i don't know i think a lot of anime gifts get
used to and a lot of people see anime that wouldn't even watch anime
just by typing something in when they're looking for a gif.
So I don't know.
That'd be my little bit of pushback on that.
I mean, look at Azuki.
I mean, they are massively full pivot straight to TCG.
And I think they will expand on the IP of the brand and that
and possibly get into
We'll see. But, I mean, they've
seen a narrative and they ran with it.
One last thing on that. I was the other day
on Facebook and an uncle
from The Hague shared
a bearish Giphy
and actually sent it to Scott.
And that was like, what the hell?
He doesn't even know it's bearish, but it's top of mind.
I think just the danger of these things, obviously, is like,
because I know some of the studios that are producing Giphy,
I don't know if they're bearish.
By the way, I don't know if they use AI or not,
but I know some brands are spending 5 to 10K a month on Giphy, right?
And it's like 100K a year that goes to that.
And if I look at it from a first principle perspective,
like top of funnel awareness at that reach, at that scale,
like it's at this stage of the brand,
like even if we get millions of views for Final Boss,
it wouldn't do anything for us right now.
I think that same 100K could be better back in the floor,
could be better be put back into advertising on Instagram,
and could be put into so many other things over that
face the result.
From first principle, I just slightly think different about it. into so many other things over that phase the result is but there's just like from first
principle i think i just slightly think different about it i i'm not against the idea itself of like
proliferation i think that's that's great right um but yeah no one but you also need someone else
doing more proliferation on instagram rather than you because you and your brothers have to be
focused on building not you know responding to dms on
instagram and trying to sell one customer at a time you know what i mean it's it's gotta it's
gotta evolve past that and um you know but i mean like i said i love the art so wheels what was your
you got a take on this yeah i mean i just i think kind of similar to what you guys kind of hinted
at right i don't think final bosa is a giphy ip right i think bearish and pudgy are different i don't think
i mean i watch anime you don't i don't share anime gifts right they don't hit they're not universal
the reason why i have a niece and nephew that are sharing pudgy gifts is because they're cute
they're not going to send a final bosu gift i'm not some of them are but it's because they're
nostalgic right it's like a dbz thing i remember it from being a kid like a power up or something yeah agreed right yeah yeah like i believe it naruto
right like like yeah of course um but that's because those are established ip and and they
resonate right and i wouldn't share with certain groups i would share that with right um and so i
i i agree with that but at the same time i don don't think, you know, so like a gift for anime brand wouldn't get me to buy, but neither would a collector profile. Right. So I, I don't know. And again, maybe it's like, because it's not being shared enough, but I don't know what final BOSU is doing. And that's why I don't look that way. Right. Initially I was very aware. I was, uh, yeah, I think it was a founder's pass holder previously um so i just you know are
they going the anime route and and i feel like azuki was and then they kind of just dropped
then go to tcg which you know that's a whole other conversation but um well i mean tcg is a
hot narrative you have pokemon selling every day or every month for a new all-time highs
they want to get i mean bro their top their top tier
one was like 35 000 and some knuckleheads bought it right yeah yeah and i think there was only
like eight of them available i think they sold out of them but yeah i mean insanity bro 35 g's like
i better have five ups trucks back up to my house with, with poker, with, uh, Azuki cards for $35,000.
I've got boxes of sports cards, one piece cards, Dragon Ball Z cards. Right.
But those are all because I resonate with that right now.
I have no interest in Azuki because I don't know the characters.
I don't know the lore. I don't know the story. Right.
So, um, I think that's putting the cart before the horse.
And I also think by the time, and you know, I could be wrong,
but I think by the time Azuki know i could be wrong but i think by the
time azuki could make itself like a world-renowned brand uh it seems like the cardboard market's
already a little toppy right now you know what i mean it might be a little late to start chasing
that meta maybe maybe um who knows uh crypto grit what's up GM, how are we doing? GM, GM, doing great.
I just have one question.
Like, what are your guys' thoughts, for example, when you see Giphy, for example,
and when you send someone some Giphy, right?
Like, how often are people like, oh, what's this?
You know, I need to check this out.
You know, I think these are are like mostly like exchange between the
people that are already kind of aware of what's sent between them rather than like tackling the
new audience i'm just interested to hear your thoughts on that go ahead gav yeah i personally
think it's very top of funnel awareness right and so in the advertising world, there's kind of two lanes that you can play.
It's either direct marketing where you go for the sale
or you can play more the brand play.
And then I think there's even a layer above that
where you're paying with your brand to be in a stadium.
It's like top of the funnel awareness.
But only the biggest of the biggest brands do that
because they have the power to keep investing just to stay in the biggest of the biggest brands do that because they have the power to
keep investing just to stay in the top of the mind. You open, you know, you walk into a certain
place, you see it, right? You go to another place, you see it. It's constantly that association.
And I personally think like Giphy's are great for that. There is a whole nother sideway though that
I don't want to downplay and that is web 3. And communicating with each other and the fun side of it.
That's something very often when I see Fox doing all the Giphy, I feel like,
ah fuck, that's something we are generally missing out on not having.
Or bearish or pudgy.
Seeing a post and then like 60 different GIFs under it.
Because that's awareness like our space.
And so I think for that part, it works really well.
But for me, it's a really top of funnel, like high level, like,
you see the bear again, you see the bear again, you see the bear again, you see the bear again.
And if there's enough other places you see it, at some point somebody sees Pudgy so many times,
over and over without realizing it, and then they walk into Walmart and then they see the Pudgy so many times, over and over, without realizing it,
and then they walk into Walmart and then they see the Pudgy laying there,
and then it's like, I like this thing, right?
And they don't even know why they like it, but I've seen it so many times on socials.
That's like top of the funnel, like awareness that you create.
But that's why I think also for Pudgy that's great,
because they have so many products everywhere around the world now,
so there's some type of conversion than their socials, right?
But I think it's more of a sequencing uh thing yeah just to jump in like but but do you
think for example like is there some like minimum threshold volume like that you must have in order
to even make sense to go the truth like for pages it makes sense right because they can get over that minimum
threshold volume right but for I feel for many of them it just doesn't make sense at all that's at
least my impression as you said it's like at the top of the funnel right yeah but for web3 it
definitely works because all of web3 is very bullish on it right and so it's definitely a
narrative that people can get behind really fast like look at these guys they got 70 billion views right the IP is for really liberating like crazy and that's
that's definitely a strong thing but if like I've said this also before like I
used to run a marketing agency and I was work with multiple clients and I've worked
with clients literally that would have 2 million views on Instagram I would make
no money of it, right?
And then we'll do deep research and actually notice that their audience is not in tune.
You know, most of the audience are in poor countries, like all of these things.
And I would have a client literally with 3,000 followers who would make hundreds of thousands of dollars a month
because the target audience was so sharp and the offer that they were producing would work really well.
And so I think numbers in generally is really good for the eye,
but at the same time, it's also really difficult
if it doesn't convert.
Like in the end of the day, if our Instagram doesn't convert
and it doesn't produce revenue, like it's great to have,
but ultimately it doesn't show.
And I have a feeling Givvy leans more towards that site right so it's it's always a an opportunity cost as well what i said like if i need to make
the choice to spend 10k a month on doing giphy right now i think at the place where we're in
right now it's not a good idea once we have a manga that's global we have an anime on netflix
like we're out there i think that then those plays make a lot more sense
Especially for anime because it's much more about the story than anything else
um Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, it really comes down to you, you know, uh
conversion rate and customer acquisition cost like
If if you're pumping a bunch of money into giphy and you're seeing like a conversion rate
of you know from users or people seeing it
you know um versus the acquisition cost of you know how much you're spending producing it if it
doesn't add up then it's just not a you know an option in my opinion you know it doesn't make
sense so those are things you have to think about do you just give up on it though or do you continue to do you continue to to use the channel but then kind of not just take some initiative away from
it i mean if you if it's not a revenue maker i mean if you're relying on instagram to bring
in the revenue that's probably not good anyways right but i guess every every source of income is
can can add up so yeah i think instagram could be a
huge revenue source okay people there yeah uh moon high what's up you have something to say on
this and then we'll go to shaman yeah i do um you know i think i mentioned this this before last time we get kev up or you had kev up. What's up kev?
Yeah, like I feel like for you guys that you know
conventions and you know going to these places setting up a booth and you know interacting with
Die hard fans
instead of wasting time and money
You know kind of blindly throwing something out and hoping
people see it with when you go to these conventions these people love it they live eat and breathe
anime and your your chances of you know touching somebody's eye yes there's a probably a lot of
competition in that industry i'm not a huge anime fan, but I can assume my friend's a psycho about it.
But I feel like going to those places might help get your name out there more
and garner more Instagram followers and do some giveaway stuff kind of like that
at some of these in real life events and i know
everyone here is stuck on the internet and think that web 3 is the you know god all be but you
know it's not for majority of you know users or you know people that love you know anime and stuff
like that well i mean that's how they discover you right as most people discover new things on the internet so i mean yeah i agree with go but now you have
to have a team deployed if you can't be there then you gotta hire some people that don't know
anything about the brand but they're just there as eye candy to to fucking here show some pictures of anime and they don't know anything they don't they don't
have the um you know they didn't put in the work for the brand so it'd be different than
someone else being there rather than kevin or his brothers uh being there pushing the brand
themselves so you know you i guess you got to find a balance of, you know, what gives you exposure and what doesn't.
You know, gifts or whatnot.
Yeah, I mean, but you guys think gifts.
I mean, people use gifts all the time.
They don't know.
Most of these people, I got sent a pudgy, pudgy gift.
Some people, they don't even know who the hell that is.
No, they don't.
And that's why they started branding the gifts, you know.
And I think if Bosu did start doing it, it branding it with Bosu, you know, lightly is a smart play.
And you're starting to see more and more brands do that.
But my daughter uses bearish gifts and pudgy gifts all the time with her and her friends.
Now, she only knows what they are because of me.
Otherwise, but she was already using them.
So, you know.
You're paying $10,000 a month for that?
Is that real?
You said earlier people were paying $10,000 a month to be on that site, Giphy?
I think you said $5,000, and I think you meant insofar as having gifts made
and proliferating constantly.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, it's more the production cost, indeed.
Like, 5 to 10K.
I've got these quotes from similar studios that they're developing for some of the brands in WebTree.
Yeah, Pudgy has a full team there.
I mean, that's all they do is sit there and pump out new GIFs.
All day, yeah.
And animations as well.
They've obviously dialed it in properly.
I think on the boots, yeah, definitely
important. I think it's always an end question. I mean,
in an ideal world, it will be everywhere, right?
It will be on television, it will be in the newspaper,
it will be on socials. It's just like
with the limited. I think focus in the end of the
day is just, or strategy is in the end
of the day, what
focus do you choose with the limited resources and time do you have?
What's the straight line, what's the path to the fastest way for success?
Especially as an anime brand, we booked conventions and we cancelled them in the end and didn't go.
Because we feel like we first need to have some stuff in our hands. Like we're in the middle of developing the story and writing the script and all of that.
So once we do that, it's time to start exposing that to the world.
Now it will be like, hey, this is our brand, these are our characters, follow us on socials.
And that's the thing. But if we have a manga in our hands,
or this is a book that people can buy, then yeah, then it's like part of the promotional journey,
But yeah, good points, man.
Shalin, what's up?
Yeah, so I just kind of wanted to add to this, right?
Just having been built in this space and building,
it's one of those things that's super interesting
because I think everyone acknowledges
that this space is only getting smaller and smaller.
So you have to use things like Instagram, TikTok.
I mean, even for some businesses, they use LinkedIn to appeal to investors.
The reality is you have to be able to understand what distribution means.
And it's also going outside of that bubble.
Giphy is just a way to drive impressions, but more importantly, drive impressions in terms of how people utilize and personify their own selves, right?
When using these Giphy's, whether it's bearish or pudgy, it's just a way for you to communicate.
People use memes, especially in the Gen Z, Gen Alpha era, where they're, that's literally they could, instead of writing, they just send those things.
I think what I love actually, and we've talked before, Kevin, but it's one of the things that like, it's important to understand if you're going to do these things, you need to drive them somewhere, right?
And so that's when we talk about top of the funnel marketing, you can draw the attention.
But if you can't convert that to signups, if you can't convert them into some measurable way, it's a lot of wasted effort.
way, it's a lot of wasted effort. So I love hearing the fact that they've decided to redraw
and go back to the drawing board in terms of like giving something deliverable to people in their
hands, in their wallets, and so the things that, you know, I'm saying that as NFTs, by the way,
not actual dollars, but you know, whatever it takes to help push and get people to do things
in a way that's incentivized is probably the way crypto has done it.
But in my opinion, the way to actually do it
is a thing called evergreen ubiquity,
which is if you can find it organically
instead of being shilled something,
you'll be surprised how much more that lasts.
I have my sister-in-law who actually is the same way
as that couple in the airport.
She actually utilizes it as a way
and means to communicate to her husband.
She feels that she's poly, he's packs,
and then they just kind of have these cute, intimate conversations
using these gifts because it feels like it resonates with them.
And I feel like that's the other important part of all of this
in terms of the marketing efforts is really driving value,
is getting it to a place where people actually value it,
not because it's, again, financially based,
but because it's something that becomes part of who they are,
and whether that's Pokemon and other IPs.
But I think Web3 is starting to turn that corner in terms of driving change.
And so I understand that all these efforts have to come with some type of fruit
because otherwise it becomes EV negative, ROI negative,
however you want to call it,
whatever buzzword you want to use.
And that's the kind of thing that you're starting to see.
Now, going back to the original thing
when I first jumped in,
obviously, Abstract, they are pivoting.
They're pivoting the way they talk to their developers
and their builders.
You can start seeing, again, the emphasis on DeFi,
emphasis on trade volumes.
They're having to meet some other demand
that they're not publicly talking about.
And when builders like Bosu and others are going to them,
you know, I know, again, building on the gaming side
with Abstract, like you get kind of,
hi, thanks, thanks for sharing.
And then, you know, you go back to the drawing board
because you know that their eyes are focused elsewhere.
So we'll have to see where things go.
And I think Saigar definitely is showing his head a bit.
But among the builders and the things that are happening behind the scene,
you know, it'll be good to see who's actually getting the attention
and where it's like, where is that going to end up?
Because with Merriand Markets moving off of it, other ones that, again,
Aborian, I don't think has made a huge impact to what they're building.
It'll be interesting to see
how they gamify their builders
to then gamify their community.
Kev, so I just asked ChatGPT.
It can't give me exact numbers,
but I asked how many anime GIFs
are used each year?
And it said that while a lot of the data is private, it's on private servers.
Some estimates say 10 plus billion GIFs are shared daily across apps.
But that if they, you know, estimates are, where is it at? Anime GIFs likely make up 5% to 20% of total GIF usage,
which would be $180 billion to $700 plus billion anime GIFs per year.
So, I mean, even estimated numbers have anime GIFs pretty high.
You know, even on the low range, $180 range 180 billion i mean and just grabbing a little
bit of that mindshare just gets people and they're like well what does this say bosu for and then
they google bosu and then they find you and then boom yeah i just agree with that sentiment too
go ahead yeah i think it's a it's definitely a legit thing to look at it's just the stage in
my opinion i had a call the other day with a licensing agent about potentially getting us into a store and doing a pilot episode with him.
And when we done a deep dive with him, the advice that he gave us was like, listen, I think you're so early, like in terms of your brand, that I wouldn't be doing this.
We can push for it and go for it.
And we can use that narrative.
But to be honest, we're going to place you on a shell next to Naruto, next to One Piece, next to Dragon Ball.
And you're going to compete.
And those stores will know how much you sold compared to them.
And now it's like, do you want that?
I'm like, no, I don't want that.
Why? Because,
you know, I will have to beg every holder to go and sweep up those stores and buy everything empty
because they're, you know, and for Pudgy that worked, they did an amazing job with that, like,
but I don't think it's replicatable for final boss in the current state we're in. And so,
like, even though it might be a good idea, right, even on Giphy, I think most people that use Giphy
now in the anime space as
well it's like you want i don't want to send final boss right like i want to send naruto i want to
send dragon ball because we're talking about uh sports and so yeah i i think it's just like way
too early for us to play that game uh but yeah that's my yeah well I just bought the license in for a little Bosu
just so you know
launching on Giphy soon
yeah it'll be a little bitty chubby
Bosu running around
I've thought a lot about that to be honest like
chubby characters will be
pretty cool
yeah well they did the fat bosu right somebody did
yeah somebody was yeah yeah yeah that was pretty good that was pretty good um go ahead bro i i just
have yeah yeah i just when you mentioned the numbers i just did another research which might
be interesting that like 90 of gipIF usage is like through the different ops integration rather than like send between people randomly.
So it's also maybe an interesting fact.
I just tried to look into it.
It's hard to get any exact numbers on it.
One post that did just come out though from Syguard 28,
35 minutes ago,
stop taking these numbers literal.
I said specifically in the post that this is just a mock screenshot.
The eligible projects and boost values will be determined week to week.
So I guess all the threads and...
Now, if I'm going to,
Oh God damn it.
Nevermind.
Someone's coming.
get it off your chest,
The averted.
what I was going to say,
if you don't want people to speculate,
understand the waters that you are navigating.
This is web.
Three people are going to speculate on anything and everything.
They fucking possibly can grasp a hold of.
Like just launch the thing. Like instead, instead of giving us a teaser, if you don't want us to speculate on anything and everything they fucking possibly can grasp a hold of like just launch the thing like instead instead of giving us a teaser if you don't want us to speculate
and look i liked the teaser and i knew not to take it literally but i also know how dgens are
right so like i'm not surprised to see that people like fucking read way too much into that at all
um you know either don't be bothered by people acting like retards or don't give
people something to act like retards about and just you know launch the thing let us figure it
out from there yeah yeah because he did say that we would get more information uh in the
he said this is what the portal will look like in the coming weeks he said i'll have final detail
this was yesterday i'll have final details once the feature is fully in place.
So stay tuned.
This is a sneak peek.
I mean, that's the thing.
Like, you know, Kev said TGE next week.
And now I'm taking them, you know, to, I'm taking them to the bank.
Go ahead, Kev, real quick.
Then we'll go to Juice.
Then Aurelius.
Real fast, I have to bounce off another space in two minutes.
But yeah, even in our community, I got
questions like, why did
Beerus get 20% and we didn't?
Like, what the hell? Speak to the team.
Guys, it's just a mock-up.
People don't read, so it's like, yeah.
Yeah, yeah,
people are hungry.
They want more of everything that abstract.
I don't think people would be this critical or this vocal or anything
if they didn't like abstract.
They didn't like the reward systems.
And if you've been in the space long enough,
you know there's not a TGE coming at any point,
at any time soon.
So I think people are just trying to maximize.
Let's go to Aurelius, then we'll go to Juice,
because Juice can wait.
Aurelius, what's happening?
Just picking up on that point in terms of the way
that they basically announced the new
configuration for how the points will be derived. I think the nuance is there in terms of, well,
we're all adults and people should be able to say, well, yeah, this is just a mock-up of what's to
come. But I mean, the waters in which we all fucking navigate and we know that's not the case. But do we know if it's just going to be one project a week,
which will be highlighted
and then the more that you hold of that,
you get more XP
or will it be over a certain amount of time
or is it like, how is it put together?
Do we know that?
We don't know anything.
I mean, based off the image,
it shows like a highlighted top NFT brand.
So it represents 20%.
We don't know if that's the number.
Then there's other communities that have a lower percentage.
Based on my ability to use my eyes,
it's more embarrassing, it gets 20% and everybody else is fucked.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, shit, son.
Oh, shit, son.
I assume this will change week to week from what I realized.
That's at least my assumption.
Yeah, and that was one of the questions I asked was like,
can the top brand, say Bosu is number one and they get the highest boost,
can they get number one again the next week and the next week and keep repeating?
I would let it be that way.
Because look, here's the thing.
If it's not based on its own volition of, this is what I would do, right?
I would just make it based off of volume.
Say maybe there's five tiers or maybe 10 tiers of bonuses that go, maybe 20% down to 5% or whatever.
And just have it be based off of volume.
Because if you pick randomly, what will happen is whatever the fuck collection ends up at the top of that every week,
there's going to be a giant rotation every week.
Which, look, maybe they want.
Maybe they want a bunch of volume.
Maybe they want people to dump one NFT and buy another NFT.
I don't know.
But Kyle, we talked about, remember we talked about this yesterday in the back channels
about how it could be easily manipulated if they did it based on a volume.
Oh, absolutely.
But you would have to keep tabs on that.
And if there's, you know, if suddenly, you know, Ping Strack, it has zero fucking royalties
and they're doing a gajillion dollars in volume every day then obviously there's
fuckery afoot right and you just manually accommodate that
yeah that's why i was thinking what if they what if there was all the certain criteria you had to
meet if there's 20 brands that made it it's just like put into a raffle or like a, like a wheel spin
almost. And it's like, okay, one of these brands that hit the criteria that was necessary,
they get it that week. And then it just automatically does it because people are just
going to, they're going to just sit there and swing back and forth
i mean i i don't know uh aurelius where did he go he left uh juice what's up bro nice nice you
skip me and you go to you go to that dude that dude fucking leaves halfway through the through
the question he answered and fucking my question was for kevin
and he's gone too so you know what fuck you this this is not the juice that we had on yesterday um
this is not what the ceo of abstract you know what i agree juice dude fuck this guy
straight up because i had a legitimate question but whatever i i don't know if it what was your
legitimate question it was about the collector profile i wanted to know if it was i had a question
about that too actually i wish he was still here because i heard him say that they want to make it
into a mobile app type of thing and um i mean that can take time right and i think they're already
they've already kind of been in stagnant waters a little too long so like i would just they minted a year ago they minted a year ago and the collector
profile should have been released the same fucking day that they minted and and he told us fucking
three or four weeks ago saying oh yeah the collector profile is is on the way we are planning
it don't say it with your chest now when he's gone because when he was
here you wouldn't have talked like yeah well nobody nobody let me fucking speak before that
i was patient with my fucking hand up i should have just fucking unmuted and let it rip on this
guy yeah because yeah i should have gonna tell him too like but like fuck that mobile app dude
get a collector's profile out there like Like, you know what I mean?
Yeah, like, well, he told us that it's on the list to do.
And if you have a team of people, like, what the fuck, bro?
What's the holdup?
I think the team is him and his brothers.
Yeah, well, get one brother fucking scrubbing your balls
while the other one scrubs your asshole.
What happened to Juice from yesterday?
Like, the Juice yesterday was on point.
And now today, you come in unhinged.
What happened?
Hey, Moon, you remember when everybody had to be really nice on Juice's face back in the day?
And if you weren't really nice to everybody, he wouldn't even let you on stage?
Boy, it's how times have changed haven't they buddy yeah wait wait till uh juice spaces restart with moon high
as cold as cold dude i'm coming i'm not missing yeah um juice uh give us a market report sir
this guy i i don't know what the fuck this guy's doing bro
i don't know what the fuck these founders are doing and you know what somebody's got to hold
some accountability somewhere you know i used to be a final bosu holder at some point and uh i spent
a lot of time going through the collection and picking up the ones that i like and i did i did
all the bullshit i don't care i don't care what happened with that or with the investment part of it.
Whatever it is, what it is, you lose money.
But yeah, these guys, they dropped the ball.
And their art was good.
And it's sad.
Are you still holding your Bosu or no?
I think I have one.
Is it the one that has all the the full black outfit
yeah yeah that's one of those yeah that was a good looking one uh this guy's getting easy
guys but it's not it's not that easy it's not that easy i hate to say it exactly it's hard
it's hard it's a hard uh life to do uh you know i would be in a founder yeah a lot of
pressure a lot of people yeah well then don't fucking do it then if you don't want to do it
all right you know you know what other professions have pressure fucking a lot of them like doctors
doctors are being sued up up and around the asshole by the by the people that they treat
and they have to do that shit while they're saving other lives and doing all this other
bullshit that's a pressure-filled job you don't see them fucking running around saying
oh yeah from fucking spaces to spaces that like you know this is the pressure that we're dealing
with at the team you know fucking you want to make the big bucks you're gonna have to fucking
handle some risk and handle some pressure.
You know what else is a high-pressure fucking job?
An Amazon worker delivering packages.
Because these dogs, man, I've seen some of these dogs
coming at some of these people dropping off packages
on the front porch.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
This face is a real dog.
He's clearly scrolling on Instagram right now
and not even paying attention.
He's watching fucking...
There are a bunch of
third worlds driving around
Let's calm down.
We're off the rails.
Yeah, we are.
Kevin Kambosu is a nice guy.
You know, and his
brothers are nice.
But nice doesn't
equate to success.
Well, look, the art is
fire, right? And
that's, I think, what was so...
I don't know. I mean, look, I was the final BOSU holder, too,
and I'm not now, and it's because
I was really bullish on the art
and then not so bullish on,
you know, the execution post.
I feel kind of bad, because we're, like, having this conversation now that he left.
Y'all didn't see.
Y'all motherfuckers weren't talking like this when the man was on the stage.
And you wouldn't call on you.
I never got called on.
And now when the guy leaves, you're going to talk shit about him.
Nah, I'm not going to talk anymore.
I never got called on.
I'm going to get him out of the space that he's in so he can come back
so you guys can actually vent and say what's on your mind.
To Juice's point, you did skip over him when Kev was still on stage.
But he easily could have said, hey, Kev, before you leave,
I need to ask you this question.
He's like, we're going to go to Juice,
and then we're going to go to Aurelius, whatever his name is.
And then he's like, you know what?
Let's skip this guy.
Let's skip him.
I didn't think Kev was leaving that fast, but obviously he did.
Guess what?
Leave this space.
Ev said he has got two minutes.
He said he had two minutes left.
Leave this space and then go find the space that Kev's in.
And go get on the stage and ask him what you're chasing.
Or host your own space.
And we will go.
You can fire up space right now and call Final Boat 2 to Zero, buddy.
I dare you.
Hold on. What? The whole point is we're doing it on own space. You can fire up space right now and call Final Boast to zero, buddy. I dare you.
The whole point is we're doing it on your space.
So that way your space grows.
Hold on one second.
I'm going to find them on the reality check account.
We're going to go into the other space.
We're going to get on the stage and we're going to hijack that space.
And then you can ask your question.
How about that, Juice?
Oh, my God.
This is like when...
I'll just wait till the next time he's here.
This is like when WWF went on the WWC or WCW.
Remember that?
That was epic.
That's what this is.
Jesus, that was the most American thing I've ever heard you say right there.
I'm going to take that over.
What? Oh, I thought you said hijack.
Because that's not really an American thing.
How does it feel, Aurelius,
to hijack my fucking spot?
We don't just take things over.
We believe in regime change.
See, the American thing to do would be
to go into the other space,
nuke the fucking host, and then replace
the host with a host that's more agreeable
to our motives.
How is that working out for you?
How is that?
Anyway, one moment.
Global empire, number one.
U.S. dollar is the reserve currency of the fucking majority of the world.
It's through our own kindness and benevolence that we don't level this to the planet and build our own empire on all fronts.
I think we're doing pretty good, Aurelius.
He's in a space with Jed.
I'm not going to go jump in Jed's space.
It worked great in Venezuela.
I didn't steal your spot, mate.
For some reason,
Jesus thought that I deserved to speak before you.
you're going to have to follow that into his DM, sir.
Well, here's the problem.
Because Juice never really asked a serious question. So I
said, you know what? Let me go to Aurelius because he's a
proper gentleman. He's an English gentleman.
And let me go to him because he's probably
going to stay on topic.
Oh, so it's a skin color thing.
So you're like, yo, you know this brown guy
is just going to ask the regular brown
questions.
Let's not go to the brown guy.
You're making it a race thing now.
What I was saying was that you was going to.
I don't know.
I could just hear it in your voice.
You were going to derail us.
And that's what I had in my mind.
So I was like.
Is derail another word for like bomb or something?
What the hell is going on?
He thinks wax sabotage shit.
Juice. He didn't want to ruin his shit. No.
Whatever. That makes sense.
Thank you very much.
congrats on getting the bears.
I seen you have three now. When did you buy two more?
I thought you only had one.
Kenny, we're back.
Yo, what up? We're back.
It was so deep in the IGF are you doing over there bro no no no no no i'm um i'm looking at some of my brackets
just looking at who i got today uh for the most part how's your brackets, I hit 12 to 16 on one. I think I have 11 and three and 10 and another three is where I stand after day one.
So, yeah, I was just like, is that on bearish?
What about on the bearish brackets on abstract?
Yeah, yeah.
12, 11, 11, 11.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Those are the points you have.
After day one.
16 possible points there
were 16 games did you do any brackets in uh gu's march yes i did yep and how are you doing over
there i haven't checked that one yet i think uh 11 or 12 i don't know what I picked on this one, but I don't know if I used one of the AI things,
but it has McNeese as the champion.
Good old 15 seed winning it all.
No problem there.
Well, they were 12.
Then another one had Hawaii winning it.
That was random.
Yeah, so those were random.
Now, if it says completed, that means I'm done, right?
Like the bracket's cooked?
Why does it say status completed on it?
On the bearish one?
You filled out your bracket.
So what's the highest points you have on one bracket?
Oh, see, I have a bracket with 12.
All right, so I'm still in there.
I thought when it said completed, like I was done and I was cooked.
I'm like, God almighty.
Dude, that was day one.
Well, I know, but I probably did so shitty on day one that they're like,
no, you're done.
No, if you hit 12 or 16, that's, you know, 75%.
That's pretty good.
I hit 12 on.
I mean, there was some big upsets yesterday.
Obviously, North Carolina losing.
Wisconsin got beat as well.
Ohio State got beat.
Yeah, well, I had TCU on that anyway.
I have a 12, and then my other five brackets are all 10s 10 points yeah is that good
yeah yeah i think it's good it keeps you in the running okay let's go for sure them zeats
so yeah um that's what i was looking at but um yeah you're bearish i didn't know you added more
yeah i mean when i was looking at the floor price,
I mean, it was sitting under .4.
I was just like, dude, this is too cheap.
There's, you know, and I've been eyeing bearish for quite some time,
but I just felt like it was peak FUD because of the abstract shit, XP,
and bearish got to a very good entry point under .4.
I think I paid like $ bucks 80 ish for those
yeah they were 80 when you bought so yeah uh which is yeah really good deal and the floor
up to like 0.06 now so it was a good buy yeah but yeah i mean dude again these guys i mean
obviously you know scotty and the guys guys, they're shipping so much shit.
So, I mean, it's a cool, great community.
So, yeah, just scooped up a few of them for sure.
Yeah, no, I mean, that was a good play because you actually bought,
like, an hour before Saigar posted that with Bearish at the top.
Yeah, it worked out.
I wished he would have put Z cards up there,
bears win too.
Either which way it goes.
Fugs is definitely trying to,
their floor price is a few dollars higher.
so the Fugs community is definitely trying to rally and get that number one
spot on the seven day.
We'll see how the weekend,
uh, goes, but bearish has a clear lead on volume in seven day. We'll see how the weekend goes, but
Bearish has a clear lead on
volume in seven days. I mean, it's
up almost two ETH
from Gigaverse ROMs.
I don't know what it is.
No hate. They've got
a great community over there. Yacht's pretty cool
as a founder. It's just, I don't know.
It just doesn't do it for me. I like the Bearish
art better.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Where did Johnny go?
Johnny, get back up here.
Don't know what happened to him.
For anyone that has not seen Man vs. Coin's website,
he did an update today that you can go under your name and you can see who is all holding
your card. Now, some people don't have their wallet address. It's not, you know, it's not
their name, uh, but you can see who's holding your card, who has the most cards, which is pretty
dope to see who's actually like loading up. Um, and some people had my card that I didn't even know had my card.
So it's a pretty good,
it's a pretty good upgrade there.
And you can see their activity score,
what they've been doing and how active they are,
within the Z ecosystem.
So right now it's reading your activity score with like trading,
you know, the minting of your cards, doing all those different things.
So if you have not checked out Man Vs. Coins website yet,
I'm sharing it right now live on stream.
But yeah, it's pretty good.
Shout out Duck Master.
This dude has one of my legendaries in five commons
uh jade stalking me she's got two uh muz that's the guy i gave one away to last week
he actually has two he had one prior uh fogo but she is the captain of my goon squad deck
that's for sure is she yeah um i need there's so many other creators i need to load up
on um hans coming in hot he has a rare and a common the johnny has two of my commons uh let's
go see who's got yours uh kyle you're down here on my list somewhere let's see who's um let's see
who the largest supporter of an idiot is.
Oh, Ann Academy has a rare and a common.
Hans has a rare and a common.
A lot of rare.
You have a lot of rare cards.
Josh Ung has one of your rares.
That's right.
That's right.
There we go.
He knows what he's doing.
Yeah, Cap has one of your commons.
My rare card, last I looked,
had a higher floor price than most of my favorite NFT collections,
so I'm doing all right.
Lizzie coming in hot with two of yours.
Magic Mike has two.
Gaio, Dustin Vibes.
Yeah, your cards are quite costly, sir.
Yeah, they won't be for long. If it doesn't turn out that X faces are
considered in whatever
rhythmic math they do, I'm
going to be down dead. I know that. I got
zero timeline motion.
Yeah, your
rare card right now is .098
your common is .003
Last sale on your card was four days ago.
Nobody wants to trade you.
That's a good thing.
Not right now.
What were you going to say, Muni?
I was going to say, speaking of NFT projects,
what are your thoughts on the inks art that Poppy's been dropping?
Do you like that?
Yeah, I think the art that they're doing, all these upgrades is great.
Poppy and them are killing it.
Wait, what do you mean by upgrades?
I've seen the inks art when they minted before.
It's all new art.
I thought the art was cool before.
I haven't seen the new art.
Yeah, they did that new art.
They did the Quirk Kids.
I don't know if they're going to one-for-one update the Quirkies IP
or if they're going to leave it like it is.
I mean, if they're bringing all this new art to the scene,
why not airdrop each person a 101 of their new Quirkies artwork?
Like, you've even said that, Kyle.
Like, I think you didn't say the Quirkies artwork. You've even said that, Kyle.
I think you... Didn't you say the Quirk Kids art
looks way better than
the actual original Quirkies?
I think the Quirk Kids art's pretty dope.
And I think they could upgrade it.
I like the Quirk Kids art better,
personally.
I don't think they're going to redo the...
They're not going to redo the they're not gonna redo the quirky's art
no way maybe that would take forever it's not even worth the money to do that
it might it might in it might uh might boost morale who knows but i mean their floor price
1.12 eth you can't be mad at them they are running this bitch up um and all other collections now the
mint price on the inks there's like 1500 from what i think han said they're like 0.069 mint
but if you have a corkling and something else you can burn it and then it's like 0.02 each
uh which is you know more reasonable so but there's only like 1500 i think they're
gonna mint them out pretty fast i don't think we're gonna do what i thought it was 1400 of
them not 15 yeah whatever 14 1500 somewhere around there um at least it's not 20 000 that they're
trying to mint uh over there but yeah uh like i said you can't be mad at 20,000 that they're trying to mint over there.
But yeah, like I said, you can't be mad at Poppy and them.
They're doing great work.
I need to go back to Pons' tweet because I could have sworn he said we were going to get more information on Zeke cards this week.
And today's Friday.
Yo, did you see that hyper, you know, the NFTs,
that sale that happened yesterday?
Dude, somebody bought a hyper for $449,000,
which was around $18,000.
And within a few minutes, fucking sold it for $161,000.
Net profiting $140,000.
So like people were trying to figure out, you know, what exactly happened.
Most likely the situation was somebody, instead of hitting $480,000 as a wheat offer,
like, or, you know, wheat offer, you know, collection offer, somebody at $4,000 and a
Somebody at $4,000 and a bot just fucking instantly accepted it.
bot just fucking instantly accepted it.
So, yeah, this person bought this hyper for $160,000.
The floor is like $18,000.
And the bot made $140,000 within seconds.
Pretty cool shit.
Sucks to be that person who fat fingered it.
All right.
Sorry, I had to reset my roadcaster.
I heard you.
That's pretty wild.
That's a lot of fucking...
Why can't I ever have that problem?
I mean, would you keep the money
or would you go back to the person
and be like, yo, there's no way...
Like, what would you do in that scenario?
I mean, what can you do?
I don't know.
I would try and find the person.
Like, why was there such a high Weethofer?
Again, you know, the floor is around 400.
I believe the floor was around 480 at the time, somewhere right around there.
So somebody was probably putting a collection offer in for 480 hype and on accident put
4,080 instead of 480.
So like as soon as they put the collection offer on, you know, somebody instantly accepted
And it just so happens that the person who did that literally bought the hyper a couple
minutes prior to that uh offer
and accepted it right away i think it was a collection offer i think anyone could have
accepted it but um it was a bot that fucking was able to purchase one off the floor and then
instantly resell it for uh 160 000 That's fucking nuts, bro.
That's a massive come up.
I don't think I could,
even if something like that was fat fingered,
I don't think I could hold an NFT or hold that money.
I understand the game is the game,
but I don't know.
I'm just not built that way.
I would have to try and reach out
or find some way.
That's wild.
Pretty wild.
I've seen you post something about
that Vivi coin
or what coin is that you've been
tweeting about? Venice.
I don't know. What's
happening there? I mean, that
BitTensor, the two leading kind of
AI crypto plays out there right
now um tau is fucking doing really well um if you look at the chart over the past month i believe
it's up like over 2x in the past month so uh tau is currently sitting at 277. You go back a month, it was trading at $179. So it's up about $100 over the past month.
But yeah, no, VVB, obviously, they offer compute for their AI stuff. You can use their AI stuff,
but it's all private. You're seeing a lot of posts recently about don't put sensitive information on chat GPT and yada yada. More people like talking about the
risks of using chat GPT or Claude or whatever and putting sensitive information in there. Well, on
VVV, they offer privacy. So all your information is not shared. So yeah, I think it's a good play personally.
You know, they have over 2 million users currently using their model.
Open Claw put them as like one of the places to use their stuff. So yeah, it's been doing
really well over the past, I'd say about a year, you know, like if you go back and look at, you know, where it was in January,
it was trading at right around $1.40.
It's currently sitting at $5.74.
So it's done pretty well in the recent few months.
few months. So yeah, I do like that play.
So, yeah, I do like that play.
That's all it is.
Bosu Kev said 17
minutes ago, Juice, that he was
still listening.
So I wish he would have came back
on stage, but he was in the other space.
And I'm telling him...
That's perfect.
That's good.
What do you mean he said he's still listening?
Like he just tweeted that nebulously
Or DM'd you that about this space?
No, he said it
17 minutes ago in the comments
He was probably maybe in on an alt account
Maybe he's in here on the
Johnny alt account
But I told him, get your ass
Back in here, answer the questions
And maybe we
can uh figure out what's uh what's going on and what's coming by the way i mean i like i had a
question like fucking three weeks ago and it got answered and the answer was was that we're working on it right and today was the follow-up so you know hopefully
something gets done yeah i'm sure they'll drop it when they're ready to drop it just like your other
favorite nft brands uh kenny what else are you looking at going into the you know what hold on
here you know now that you mentioned it juice does a particular... He is a badged affiliate of a certain brand. I got a couple win questions for you, buddy.
Let me hear it.
Let me hear it, and then I'm going to hit you back with some cube questions.
Yeah, never mind.
You're a destruction there.
Hey, what did you think about the Doodles AI?
I mean, the Doodles, yeah, I guessodles yeah i think it's dope it's good i'm happy they're fucking doing something unlike the rest of these nft projects
now i'm gonna tell you it's not made for creeps
why the fuck would it be made for creeps it's a doodles ai i know i'm saying using a creeps pfp to try and to try and doodle fi my
because i seen a lot of people doing their bears and their board apes and i saw a lot of things
like that i saw alpha go use it to do his alien friend the other day it came out looking like a
bad dragon you guys down there don't know what a bad dragon is, don't Google it. That one is for the people that already know.
Here, I'm going to drop it in the comments.
Look at what it did to my creep with my GM post.
And then it called me cheetahs.
It took away the cheeses.
Hold on, here it comes.
But I'll share it on stream so people can see.
Look at this fucking thing.
I don't know what this is.
I like it a lot.
I think it looks great.
It's funny.
I like it.
You know what?
That's what it's about.
It's about creativity.
That is doodles.
That's why they call it doodles.
You know, you never doodle.
I never doodle nothing like that, but that's pretty wild, bro.
You doodle-fied like a GM post.
You should do it.
Can you run your straight PFP through it and see what it does?
Yeah, I did that.
Hold on. I think I did that.
Let me go back to it real quick.
Because when you go in, you sign up, you have so many credits. I think you
get 80 credits from the RIP. And I think it takes 20 credits at a time. So let me add an image here.
I'll do this one. Let me do my pfp so it costs 10 credits per generation
now you can buy different packages with this so now let me i'm doodlefying this thing right now
live so let's see what let's see if it comes out looking like fucking gargamel from uh that's what
i was thinking of with this thing uh it's like some fucking green Gargamel. You're going to have to explain to Juice who Gargamel is now.
Juice, do you know who Gargamel
is? Does anyone besides me and
Kenny know? Zero chance he knows.
Moon High, who's Gargamel?
Everybody knows who it is.
Who is it?
It's the guy from the Smurfs.
The bad dog.
He's his born name from back before he came into the crypto industry.
Oh, my God.
Look what he did to my face.
That was his famous line in the films, too.
I didn't get it in your eye, did I?
Why can I not copy this?
It's not letting me, like, blow it up.
Hold on, I got to screenshot it so I can put it in the comments.
Bro, this is, this, look at what this fucking thing did.
This was just my PFP.
I didn't say anything.
The screenshot's kind of shitty.
But what in the fuck is this?
This is going to be a new
BFB collection coming.
It's going to be called Doodle Farm.
What? I am
cooked. It kind of turned you into a
retarded canisapien.
It's actually not bad
for what it is.
Your second last post, the GM one, is pretty good. it's actually not bad for what it is. Um,
your second,
your second last post,
the GM one is pretty good.
The GM one's definitely better.
It literally put a Mickey mouse face in the middle of your already copyright infringement.
Mickey mouse.
Does this say which model is being used?
I think this is their own model.
Like they built this. Yeah. They're probably, they're probably running it local then. Yeah. Does this say which model is being used? I don't. I think this is their own model.
Like, they built this.
Yeah, they're probably running it local then.
Yeah, whatever it is, they built.
I can't remember what Pocky was saying, but I'm pretty sure they built this on their own.
But, bro, that's... Man, I'm cooked on that one.
The Bored Apes. Jeez. Wow. The
board apes look so much better.
The bearish that I see.
Even some of the pudgies look way
good, but that last
one, I don't know. I think
I need my credits back
for that. But yeah, it's still pretty
cool. Go look at what I just commented.
It kind of looks like that a little bit your little head looks like the uh uh i just posted you're just gonna
have to refresh oh i see it yeah bro it looks just like that what is what is this jacked up looking
nft this was uh eight chains meant to redeem for bad bad that they did with the oh okay uh how did i not know this
was bad bad this was something with bad bad i always figured it would be doing oh if you're
in philadelphia by the way we're doing on sneaker con we'll be there uh we're running our game there
and uh because we're running the game through 10 a.m studios um we'll be there uh with a freaking
a booth there. The game is
killing it, dude. I'm telling you, the game they came out
with, we can get into any expo we want to
now because people love this game.
What kind of game is it?
What game style is it?
It's basically, imagine going to
conventions and you go to certain booths
and you just basically tap to earn points
and then you basically
go to the booth at the end of the expo.
And you can buy merchandise and stuff with the points that you earned from going booth to booth.
And kind of proves that you were at the booths.
And then you can just kind of like, you know.
It's cool because they can push so much stuff.
They can send messages
through it and everything like that uh for for the game and it's going to be all linked to the
reward system too which they're which they're building for chimpers as well um so oh wow yeah
they they built a lot of stuff for chimpers if you go to 10amstudios.xyz they did uh pudgies
10amstudios.xyz.
They did Pudgies, OpenSea.
They did Chimpers.
They do a lot of work for big, big brands in this area.
I mean, in this scene, I guess.
But, yeah, so that should be released at the end of April, I think.
Chimpers has been working with them on it, giving them more ideas of how they want it to look.
So it's been a great effort
Team effort for Chimpers
And Bad Bad
So Drew is actually down there right now
The CEO, he's a go-to guy
Alright, well there you go
What else are we looking at
For the weekend?
Kenny, anything?
Are you talking about in crypto or yeah yeah man i'm just you know kind of watching
i mean i thought he was asking iroh or what um yeah i mean you know we're slightly green on
the charts as far as like crypto goes but it but still Bitcoin's back under $70,000 off the local top of $75,000, which was a few days ago, either $21.35 in Solana, back at $89.
the fears of the ongoing conflict in Iran and how that will keep interest rates high,
as well as potentially no interest rate cuts until October.
So equities have been taking a fucking hit over the past week.
I mean, it's just been day after day of just like red.
So yeah, I'm just kind of sidelined right now.
I'm not really trading too, too much.
I have a couple things hype, VVD, or a couple things that I'm holding right now.
But for the most part, not really trading too much until we get a little bit more clarification
as to what's going on in the Middle East with this conflict.
I think once that kind of chills out, we might see a run back up.
But for the time being, I'm just kind of monitoring the situation.
New Fed chair coming, Kenny.
You don't think that the new Fed chair is going to cut rates or anything, huh?
I mean, we'll see.
As of right now, if you go to Polymarket,
it looks like the first 50-50 chance of a rate cut is until October.
That's kind of like a pretty good indicator of, you know, short term,
we're probably not going to get any interest rate cuts,
especially with inflation, you know, the economy's not all that great right now.
So, yeah, I don't think it's going to happen.
I mean, look, we had three aggressive cuts towards the back end of 2025.
I think they're just going to pump the brakes on that
and just make sure everything's stabilized before they do it again.
So we'll see.
I mean, as of right now, it's just kind of like a wait-and-see moment,
in my opinion.
I just saw Calci just tweeted, this is the first I've heard of this,
that Amazon is working on a phone.
Yeah, I heard that on CNBC this morning.
It's kind of nuts.
Yeah, it's something to do with Alexa, too.
I'm not exactly sure what exactly it is.
But yeah, Amazon is potentially working on a phone to release here.
So we'll see how that goes.
Amazon's tech fucking sucks, bro.
Tell us how you really feel.
What do you mean Amazon sucks?
Amazon's tech.
Just because they don't have a fucking collector's profile?
What's wrong with you?
I don't know what Bezos is doing with that team of 100,000 Indians, bro.
But they can whip that fucking collector's profile real quick.
Man, I like Amazon.
Dude, I'm out in the middle of nowhere.
I can still get the two-day delivery.
I just got done.
That's not what I'm saying.
Two-day delivery, bro.
I'm saying they're tech.
They're tech.
They're TVs.
They're fucking Amazon Firesticks.
Two-day delivery and you're happy about that, bro?
I can get an hour delivery.
Literally.
But Kenny, you also have to worry about being shot in the streets of Houston.
I live on the side of a mountain.
Not in my gated community.
All right.
Sorry, you broke up.
Did you say you live in a gay community?
Oh, okay, my bad.
Kenny was the HOA leader
of the gayborhood.
Yeah, Kyle, we can get you
one hour delivery, too. We just need to ship a bunch
of people there that
can live on your mountain and
fucking deliver this shit to you.
This fucking slop that you're ordering with one hour.
No way, buddy. I'm about to move further back into the mountains if it was shit to you. This fucking slop that you're ordering with one. No way, buddy. I'm about
to move further back into the mountains if it was
Peaky Blonders movie
Immortal Man.
Watching that this weekend.
Yo, I'm going to watch that tonight.
Yeah, so am I.
Then they're also making
an Assassin's Creed. Did you see this?
A game or a movie? No, they're making a series assassin's creed. Do you see this a game or a movie?
they're making a series.
They had a movie already.
It's going to be set in ancient Rome and kickoff in the year 64 AD.
I love that game,
I spent so many hours playing assassin's creed too.
I spent a lot of time playing them too, but like,
I got to admit after a while,
the franchise,
like it feels like the same game over and over again
Just reskin. It's kind of like my beef for Call of Duty. So it's like the same game just in a different time
This new update great. I haven't played it yet. You play it. It's a great update
The did you see that Mandalorian the movies coming out? I don't know if anybody watches the Mandalorian series
Well, then they have a movie coming out. I don't know if anybody watches the Mandalorian series. Well, then, they have a movie coming out now.
It looks amazing.
I can't wait to see that.
I just finished, if you haven't seen it this weekend,
watch it. It's funny.
Righteous Gemstones?
Righteous Gemstones. I mean,
hilarious. That's a series,
right? Yeah, it's a hilarious and you would like it
I think you remind
Yeah, you liked it, right?
Yeah, I like what's that guy's name?
Yeah, Danny McBride
You know his little partner is so funny.
In Vice Principal.
He was in Vice Principal, too.
I can't think of his name.
Billy, yeah, right?
In the show, Billy.
Yeah. Brother Billy.
Yeah, he's in most of his, you know, Danny McBride kind of, you know, like series that he does.
Yeah, he's hilarious.
What was his name and actually baby baby
I forget I forget what it is yeah that's really funny show I should gemstones I'm
part of that prism I'm part of the prism one
it was a joke
alright cool
well I think that's it
for the day hopefully Pons gets this
article out supposed to be dropping today
we will see
is all about hopefully it drives some
who's supposed to be dropping today?
Oh, Pons did.
But he said this week...
Oh, did he? Okay.
On the 17th, he said, I will publish an article
this week explaining the squads,
potential squad strategies,
and some of the mechanics behind the cards.
this comes out, if it's perceived bullish,
then we could see a bigger movement on the Z squad floor.
So if you're kind of on the fence about buying a certain creator,
I would, you know, look at that creator now
and see if it's worth just grabbing.
Or if you're on the fence about
holding somebody we fucking uh two whale cards pretty inexpensive 50 bucks and 60 bucks um
what'd you say that again the creator of this whole thing i remember him saying because somebody
was saying how many they had
and he's like, that's too many.
You don't need that many.
I never heard nobody say that.
I heard it and I was like,
you shouldn't have that many cards.
I wonder why.
Are you talking about Scotty?
Are you fighting for entry?
I think Moonlight is fighting for entry.
No, I'm not sure we've heard the exact opposite from Scotty.
Scotty said the more you hold, the better.
Scotty don't know, and it wasn't him.
It was some other guy on the team. It was Fiona and me.
It might have been, but I don't think.
It was when you were up there.
It was a space.
I followed you.
I stalk you sometimes into spaces and just listen to you.
And you were in a space. I followed you. I stalk you sometimes in the spaces and just listen to you. And you were in a space with this
two girls. Sometimes he watches you through your window
at night, too. I was in a space
with two girls? Yeah, yes.
You were in a space with two girls. Bro, that sounds like a dream.
Hold on. What are we talking about? What two
girls? Your dream
is being on a space with two girls.
No, not a space space,
but a space, like...
A general space.
No, God damn it.
You had two girls on your space like three days ago.
I got fucking four of them up here right now.
You know, I had a little argument
with one of them. She was nice,
but she's talking about some guy hitting on her
and I looked at a video
on her page and it was her doing a little
twerking her ass.
And I say to her,
you're complaining about doing your DMs and you're twerking your ass
on goddamn internet.
What if I'm seeing your fat ass twerking?
What is he talking about, Kyle?
I'm so confused.
Bye, everybody.
I've never been on a space
with just two women as hosts.
I don't know what he's talking about. Yes, you were. I mean, it two women as hosts. I don't know.
Yes, you were.
I mean, it could have been trans.
I don't know.
But she sounded like one.
God almighty.
All right.
Anyways, Jesus out.
Have a good weekend.
Go join the GU space later tonight, 6 p.m. Eastern, hosted by First Night.
GU fam will be there
and go buy a fucking GU
and go buy an idiot's
creator cards. Buy more than one GU
leave my creator card on the shelf dude
creeps is on discount
by the way. Bro they're going down
you know what you need to keep your head up
bro my head's up just fine I know up your ass You know what? You need to keep your head up.
Bro, my head's up just fine.
I know. You're fucking up.
Up your ass.
All right.
I'm going to take you out back.
Tear that ass apart.
I believe him.