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Reality Check: FWOG Day 2, Market News & Creepz
Recorded: Dec. 4, 2025 Duration: 1:31:52Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, key topics included MetaMask's integration of Polymarket, Myriad's growth through external liquidity access, and the significant financial impact of Bitcoin ETFs, highlighting the increasing institutional interest and regulatory developments in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
I don't feel the sun's coming out today
It's staying in
It's gonna find another way
Yeah
As I sit here in this misery
I don't think I'll ever know, Lord
Seen the sun from here.
And oh, as I fade away,
they'll all look at me and say,
and they'll say, hey, look at him.
I'll never live that way, that's okay, there's just a fresh change.
a way to be
the yeah yeah just said
just got happy
we need to stop
he he
is not yet I'm Keep on dreaming, but when you stop dreaming, it's time to die.
And if we all play for the time tomorrow, I know some ways will work and other ways will play.
But I know we can't all stay in forever, I wanna ride My world's only faster today
And then I painted a Oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh at me and say, they'll say,
hey, let him know where he is these days.
When life is hard, you have to change.
When life is hard, you have to change. All I can say is that my life is pretty plain
I like watching the bubbles get away
And all I can do is just pause a tea for two
And speak my point of view
But it's not the same I just want to keep my cheeks dry today. that when you wait.
You know I like to keep my cheeks dry today.
So stay free and I'll be late.
I don't understand why I sleep all the way.
And I start to complain, but there's no pain.
And all I can do is read up to stay awake, and it breaks my life away.
It's great escape.
Escape.
Escape. Escape. Escape. Escape. Escape. Escape.
Escape.
Escape.
Escape.
Escape.
Escape.
Escape. I can say is that my life is pretty plain.
You don't like my point of view.
You don't want me to say.
It's not saying.
It's not saying.
I just want someone to say me.
I'll always be there when you wait
You know I like to keep my cheeks dry
So send me no I'll be mad All right.
GM Kenny Powers.
GM, sir.
GM, GM, GM, GM.
Good job on reverb backup vocals.
Yeah, well, I'm sure the audio probably sounded like shit anyways.
But either way, you know, that's what we do.
Kyle's going to be a few minutes late.
Seems like he is, you know, back at work.
And, yeah, back at work and doing his thing.
So, yeah.
So, he'll be, yeah, he'll be back.
I think he said he's going to be about five minutes late
Yeah, but we'll continue on
How was the game last night?
Oh man, we whooped that ass
Yeah, it was great
Nice, yeah, I've seen the pictures
Seats look good
Yeah, pretty good stuff
Yeah, we're about
14 rows off
Up Yeah, just right about 14 rows off.
Yeah, just right off the baseline.
It's a great seat.
Nice.
The best part, the Rockets cheerleaders are like right there to our left.
So I got entertainment
while I'm watching sports.
You know, you can't beat it.
No, you can't beat that.
Not with a wooden stick.
So, yeah.
Yeah, we used to go to Dallas Mavericks games all the time when I lived in Dallas.
So, yeah, the company that I worked for, we were the official mover of the Dallas Mavericks and the Dallas Stars.
So, we had, like seats down on near the court.
Plus we also had a, um, a, uh, a private room up there as well in the ring as well.
So, uh, a suite, but we never, um, yeah, we, we would always go down to the court seats.
So yeah, a lot of fun.
Basketball games IRL are way better than watching on TV.
You know, the reason I love basketball is it's relatively the quickest,
like, professional sport here in the U.S., obviously.
You know, football games are, it's a three, three-and-a-half-hour game.
Baseball, kind of same thing.
Basketball, 2-15
tops. I mean, it goes by
relatively quickly.
A long game is maybe two and a half hours.
It's quick.
It's fun. It's vibrant.
Yeah.
It's good times.
And it's always fucking loud as fuck, bro.
Oh, yeah.
Anyways, alright.
Let's dive in because we have a lot to cover today
my god almighty um man prediction markets are just consuming my timeline because i do tweet a lot
about them um and i had some you know we got a lot of different things to cover calci uh i think
they hit like 11 billion in volume the other day
uh total like lifetime or some shit i can't remember what it was with them but
now uh just now was announced metamask officially integrates crypto prediction platform
polymarket into its mobile app and so that's pretty massive we we've seen them integrated with uh trust wallet with myriad as well
um and calci i believe is in trust wallet as well uh but still like this is really really
fucking big for uh prediction markets because the polymarket app started rolling out yesterday and
it was by invite only so you had to have a code i guess
i didn't try and install it but this is uh yeah this is pretty big right here um i guess i'm
gonna have to do like an update on my metamask wallet because i don't see it in there yet um
but i mean like this tweet just came out it's crazy crazy. Last night I was trying to do something.
I met him.
It wouldn't even work, bro.
Really?
Yeah.
Weird.
It was really weird.
I tried it on my mobile and my desktop and I could not,
I was trying to move some money around.
I couldn't do it.
Okay.
See, mine needed an update.
So I just did the update.
Boom.
Right there.
Yeah.
As soon as you update and you power it up powered
by polymarket predicting win trade on the outcome of real world events like sports or elections
um the art is pretty dope showing everybody on the screen right now what it looks like
um and it's uh looks really really good I'm to hit get started now and see what it does,
but there it is, bro.
Wow.
This is probably what the Polymarket app looks like,
but it's just, I mean, it's right here.
The very first one, Fed decision in December,
25% basis points decrease, 93% right now.
So, yeah, pretty wild yeah this is this is big
this is really really big so look i mean they got the green light here in the u.s obviously calci
in 48 states was already legal as of this week but now polymarket i'm curious to see
Now, Polymarket, I'm curious to see if there's a shift in volume on platforms
because CalSheet had clearly the one up as far as here in the U.S.
for prediction markets.
So now that Polymarket is 100% legal in the United States,
what type of volume do they take from CalSheet is the question.
Yeah, I don't know.
So yesterday we also seen, and I didn't bookmark the tweet,
but yesterday the state of Connecticut filed some type of lawsuit against,
they filed a lawsuit against Cal sheet, Polymarket, and someone else
because of illegal sports betting yeah uh as an unregistered
licensed gamer or sports gambling company or whatever so yeah you're starting to see some
of these states push back and i'm telling you bro connecticut is one of the wealthiest states
in the fucking country and that's's where you go straight across.
You leave the Bronx Thruway,
and you start heading into Connecticut.
Somebody's probably going to butcher me over this,
but I think it's Greenwich.
It's spelled like Greenwich,
but it's like Greenwich, Connecticut right there.
And it's like the first five exits inside of Connecticut.
But that is one of the wealthiest
fucking areas because that's where like a lot of people either they live out in the hamptons
and they fly out you know from the city from um from new york or they drive across and get right
back in into connecticut and a lot of fucking money there.
So surprised people aren't pushing back there.
So I don't know who.
She's in a job interview.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
But they very rarely ever come up.
So, but yeah.
So really, really big day for prediction markets as well.
Continuing on, we also have Myriad today announce they are entering their next stage of growth
and opening access to external liquidity providers.
So this is really, really important for anyone that doesn't understand why.
I see tweets where people are pissed off because there's not enough markets on Myriad,
and it's all due to liquidity.
With this, having a higher depth of liquidity, they're going to be able to provide more markets.
I think we're going to see mentioned markets, these creator markets they had been talking about,
kind of like what PumpKade's doing.
So this is going to be really big.
And I think providing liquidity here early on
is going to not only get you USDC rewards,
possibly the actual native token for Myriad in those rewards,
but also early on, if they don't even TGE yet,
it's going to massively run you up as far as points
on the Myriad platform heading into TGE.
And this is pretty big stuff here.
So I think Myriad's about to see a massive growth
as far as their volume goes.
Big, big, big, big, big stuff happening in prediction markets.
Yeah, I mean, obviously, Myriad doesn't have the VC backing that a Polymarket or a Calci has
as far as being able to provide liquid on the site um yeah you know so
this is a good way for people like you said to kind of farm you know um and potentially make
some money by providing liquidity uh liquidity so i mean i think it's a win-win situation if you're
gonna participate yeah yeah 100 because like i i put a tweet out on the 14th.
For them to do a large cap market for them,
which is a $10,000 to $20,000,
a large cap market is something like we've seen with the Mando KBM bet.
That was over a million dollars in volume.
On the minimum side,
that could cost 10 to $20,000 just to start the liquidity pool.
And it could get up to 30,000, 50,000.
Like some of these markets,
like the Fed decision on Polymarket to fund that market alone,
they think it said Polymarket had to put in like 250 to a half a million dollars
just to fund the liquidity pool so there's not big slippage every time you go place a bet
um because like i've experienced it on myriad whether it was with points or it was with uh
with usdc if you go in with even if you're doing a points market and it opens up and you
put a half a million points on a thing, you're automatically already down like 70,000 points
because there's not enough liquidity in there to like make your trade not even out. You know,
I can understand losing a little bit of points but not you know 70 000 points
so this this is going to be just going to open the doors for myriad and i think once this does
open um i think we're going to see myriad getting you know that would they have last month it was
102 million once these lps start up i think we're going to see Myriad starting to approach billion dollar months.
Is this something that you're going to have to apply for or can anybody get involved in providing liquidity here?
Okay, so right now there's a link for you to go sign up at.
And it's myriad.markets forward slash pools.
It's in the tweet up there from Myriad.
When you go there, it's just really simple.
I think they're just garnering interest here,
like seeing what's going on.
They want your full name, email address, X profile, telegram.
How much liquidity do you expect to provide on Myriad?
And then how much volume have you done uh on other prediction
market platforms so there i would just throw numbers in even if you said a thousand dollars
i think this is going to be open for anyone i would imagine why i mean why would they stop
people from wanting to provide liquidity you can go on polymarket right now and provide liquidity. You can go on Polymarket right now and provide liquidity all you want.
You know, but for me, it's like, all right, myriads of the smaller one of the bunch,
they have less mind share. It's going to keep growing. It's not like Farrokh and them are going to stop doing it. And I think being in there early and establishing yourself,
I think it's a good thing. So I would, anybody that's interested in providing liquidity,
I would go sign up for it, see what happens.
You know, what's interesting is like Polymarket, as far as I know,
and I don't know if they're turning a profit now,
but they were initially not making money
because they took a growth first kind of strategy, you know, where they offered as many different prediction markets.
They wanted growth, you know, over profits initially.
And as far as I know, and, you know, originally they were able to do that was because they were getting, you know, 4 million seed round, followed by 25 million, followed by another 45 million.
These were Series A and Series B funding rounds.
And I don't even know if they're profitable just quite yet because they offer such a broad spectrum of prediction markets and they have to provide liquidity for
all of these. So like, I'm not even sure if they're profitable right now, but that's the
point is like, you have to, you know, fund it with millions of dollars if you want to scale
on a large scale to as many users as possible. So yeah, they focused, you know, initially on a
growth strategy over a profit strategy.
And I don't know if they're profitable yet.
But that happens with a lot of businesses, like businesses that scale at a large scale, like, you know, aren't initially profitable until they hit a certain number.
Now, the fact that, you know, they were not registered in the U.S. and the Trades Commission, you know, kind of barred them from the U.S.
That stunted their growth initially.
But now, because, you know, it's all approved, I'm curious to see how much that grows and if they can start turning profits.
Because, again, like to your point, you have to provide a ton of liquidity.
Myriad doesn't have the access to these VC funds.
I know they did a raise I don't
think it wouldn't as well as they initially thought it was going to um you have to have
millions and millions in order to scale of that at that uh you know broad of a pace so yeah but I
I think they'll get it because it'll happen over time yeah because they're they are small and they
are building like I mean I do think they're going to announce some big raises
because now people have missed getting into Polymarkets and Calci's
and all these other ones.
And, I mean, bro, I mean, Farouk has fucking interviewed
the president of the United States.
How do you know he doesn't get on a call with Eric Trump and Eric Trump
and them?
They just bought $34 million worth of Bitcoin this morning.
Maybe as well.
I mean, he has direct ties to CZ and BNB.
I think you have to have numbers to prove that you're relevant.
And initially, those numbers weren't there.
So now I'm sure if they go back and do another seed funding,
because they've done over $150 million in volume at this point,
obviously, that's a little bit more attractive to an investor
and opposed to when they initially started out
with not much volume.
So yeah, and I think on top of it,
they proved the USDC concept
because initially it was all points.
Then they rolled out the USDC platform part of it.
Now they're in this growth phase.
So now if they go back out
and try to do another funding round,
they'll probably, yeah, they'll probably get more.
Yeah, I think so as well.
So one of the biggest things at Polymarket, the reason why they aren't making money, there's no fees for their markets.
And I think we'll see a change there.
That was part of the growth strategy, though.
Yeah.
They wanted to grow first.
They wanted to get the user base, try and get a corner on the, corner on the user base. Um, and then Cal, she gets approved in the U S like that,
you know, hurt them initially, but, uh, well, Cal, she, Cal, she had a hundred million,
um, annualized revenue via the Robin hood integration. Um, and so it's going to be
interesting once they start adding fees to the, to the trades,
seeing which one has the best fees.
Um, I was looking right here, liquidity incentives on poly market rewarded to users.
These aren't exacts because poly market hasn't like released exact numbers, but this was as of July, they're averaging 400 to 500,000 in monthly rewards going back to liquidity
providers, uh, on, on poly market.
Now, how many people are doing the, the, you know, providing liquidity?
They don't have those numbers aren't public. So we don't, we don't know.
Um, it says, so don't know. It says,
so while numbers are not directly reported,
Polymarket is significantly higher monthly active users with 477,850 in
October of 2025 compared to Calci user space,
which is largely driven by its partnership with Robinhood,
reaching 2.6 million in website visits in September,
2025.
In contrast, Polymarket is still dominating in terms of overall user base,
despite a recent decrease in web traffic.
So that's as of October 10 of 25.
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty wild.
The website traffic on Polymarket, 9.3 million,
and opposed to Calshi, which was $2.6 million.
Calshi really got momentum going because they partnered with Robinhood.
When Robinhood started offering prediction markets, it was all partnered with Calshi and their tech.
So that kind of grew up with it.
And them just being in the U.S. and getting the pass by the Trade Commission,
that's what did it.
Right.
But I think Paulie Market's going to take back a lot of mindshare once this app is fully open in the U S.
So yeah, well, well, to that point, as far as funding goes,
Calci 300 million at a $5 billion valuation funding for Polymarket 2 billion at a $9 billion valuation.
So almost twice the valuation of Calci.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, they definitely have a lot more backing.
Yesterday, did you see all the stuff that happened
with the Google search results?
Nope.
All right, so this was all in prediction markets.
So on Polymarket, Calci, everywhere, even Myriad had it, but they had it, they had it all set in points on Myriad. So it was like the, remember Carlo was up here and we were like, who's going to be the number one search person, uh, in the United, you know, on Google, uh, who's the top, um, uh, actor. Who's all these different things the most searched x whatever it was yeah the most
searched part yeah who's going to be the the most searched person on on google okay um and
it's really interesting yesterday the google results were published briefly for like seconds and it showed the results and then it was taken down and at the same time
some guy had bet like you know right before it people are saying it was a google inside somebody
worked at google but this guy won over a million dollars on his predictions wow from doing this.
And it was insanity.
So, like, every one of them,
he knew who the number one search person
was. The shares on that
were at, like, five and a half, six cents
when he bought it.
This dude came up
1,800%, won
$192,000 on that.
But then he went and put big bets in on the no side
of all the others on the number one search person.
So then when this image came out with all the search results,
like everybody, if you go look at all the screenshots,
the markets just flipped upside down on every
prediction site and this dude fucking cleaned house like over it was like one point i think
it was like 1.2 or 1.3 million dollars the guy won um by doing this and now while they haven't
closed out because google hasn't officially published it yet. It was pretty interesting.
And most people,
most people were going with Donald Trump or the Pope.
But before I continue on with this,
this is about a two minute long or two and a half minute long rant.
And I want you to hear what, how, how this ended up happening.
And the winner, who do you think the most searched person was?
Don't tell me it's some dumb shit like Taylor Swift, bro.
I'll fucking shoot.
No, no, no.
It was the D4VD guy.
The rapper?
Really?
Yeah.
That's the guy who killed his girlfriend and put her in his trunk.
Right.
Then parked the car in, like, West Hollywood. Right. Then parked the car in like West Hollywood.
Yeah.
And reported the car stolen.
And like the kids apparently still under shit,
but.
What fucking rock am I living under?
That's the first time I've ever even heard of.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember hearing something about it,
but I didn't know the specifics.
Yeah.
And it's a young kid,
young kid too.
And he was like, he called,
he was sending text messages
from the,
he was sending text messages from the girl's
phone to the mom,
and it was like, to the sister
or something, and it was totally like
not in her natural
tone, and
using words. What the fuck, man? You know, when
I was a kid, rappers just beat the fuck out of their
girlfriends. What the fuck is this world going to do?
Bro, they pulled this little motherfucker
out of a concert and
arrested them.
But pretty fucking wild.
anybody that's trading on
prediction markets,
like I said, this is about a three-minute rant,
but it's a good rant by Kix. I'm going to play it so you guys can hear it. Hold on. Oh shit. Hold on. I have the
fucking tablet. What the fuck's going on now? It's not even fucking working. I don't fucking know.
Essentially, this thing ain't fucking working. Um, essentially what he says is you have to go look at the fucking the details on how the how the the results are found and doing a little bit of research.
You could have also possibly made this prediction, but it was too coincidental with the Google release happening and being deleted.
Google does not do their search results,
like for the number one trending person,
like most people were picking either the Pope or Donald Trump.
And they don't do it because we all sit there and Google Donald Trump all
year long.
They do it based off the trends from last year.
So say Donald Trump was searched a shit ton last year so say donald trump was searched a shit ton last year then they base it off of the search
results for this year whoever has the most weight above like the average above that that's how they
figure out who is the most searched person so while donald trump was talked about a shit ton
last year because of the election this year yeah he making noise, but he's not as much of the conversation this year.
So his numbers, percentage only went up just a little bit because his search results went down.
And the one thing that went viral.
Trump's just a regular TV reality president of the United States now.
Yeah, I know.
So the one thing that went viral was this D4VD kid
because it was all over TikTok.
It was everywhere.
So everybody's Googling it.
So it had started as a search result last year,
but now the stories really gained traction.
So while he was like ranked kind of low last year,
his uptrend this year is what got him
to be the most search person
um of the of the year so you got to really look when you do these prediction markets how they
resolve then you need to like do and that's what kicks was saying in this thing do a little bit of
research on how google even comes up with those answers. And you possibly can make some money there.
And I was doing it on Myriad when Myriad was doing the world's competition
for League of Legends.
I was going through and doing things in some of my Myriad Minute videos
that most people didn't even know about.
And I was putting in like the,
cause they were doing the official results from this one website,
but you wouldn't have known where to go look for this.
Had you not read the, the, you know,
the fine print of where they're getting the results from.
So every week I was posting updates on the results.
And I think some, I know several people cooked on several of those markets.
So it was, yeah, it was pretty, pretty interesting.
But yeah, so some scandalous shit there on the Google side of that.
That's the thing about prediction markets.
There's going to be insider trading on particular things.
I mean, we saw it happen with the New York mayoral race.
Yeah.
You know, there was, I guess the guy who was the previous mayor or something
ended up dropping out, right?
And apparently the day before he made that announcement,
an anonymous account loaded up a bunch of money and put,
Loaded up a bunch of money and put yes, he's gonna drop out and within 24 hours. He dropped out
yes, he's going to drop out.
And within 24 hours, he dropped out.
obviously that was most likely somebody
Close to him or close to somebody who's close to him who found out the news and went and loaded up on polymarket
You know what I'm saying? So like there are certain
Instances where there's gonna be inside insider information. So that's another thing to always pay attention to
Fresh wallets that load up and just like blast a certain thing.
There must be some type of information or they know something, you know?
So that's, yeah, it's going to be corrupt to a certain extent.
But look, corruption is everywhere.
You can't do anything about that.
No, you can't.
Now, here's the other thing that happened yesterday.
So do you follow Tut?
Okay. happened yesterday so uh do you follow tut no okay so tut puts out a tweet yesterday because myriad put a market up saying will monad get slashed on ethos by the 9th of uh december
well nobody had slashed it yet and uh so tut puts a tweet out last night and says i want to see what happens if i try and
manipulate a market on myriad i'm gonna activate a slashing on monad because nobody had done it yet
he put out the the current price he put. He said, I want to see what happens. The tweet
ended up getting a little bit viral.
It made it on the trending
on X. Then people
started fucking just climbing
in the comments
because it's like, oh, this is
not the way the slashing. This is not what
slashing is meant to do.
But he's doing a social experiment
on whether or not the prediction
markets can be manipulated.
And so he put his 50 bucks in the slashing is happening right now.
There's still 33 hours.
you can't see the results,
but the comments on it are pretty good.
somebody said,
what a whore.
You can't slash a project just because you want to make money on a bet.
Uh, what are you even thinking that's disgusting behavior uh this slash is ridiculous i defended
uh like a lot of people he's he's not going to end up getting it because everybody's upvoting
mona dude everybody's got to stop fucking bitching about that kind of shit if it can be done somebody
needs to do it like you yeah well you have to stress test these fucking things
yeah i agree you know and if there's an obvious way to exploit something it's better to find it
out now in an obvious way uh rather than at some fucking crucial moment you know i i don't know man
yeah and i'm bad dude my milandaks are fucking eating shit somebody tell clem she needs to put
the pump on it so basically his 50 he bought on a six percent
yes and he could have sold it at the height because it reached 30 and he could have sold it
for 250 bucks and he didn't sell it he didn't do anything with the money he wasn't making money
off people the whole point in this was to get a get you know to have a social experiment on whether or not he could manipulate the market.
Now, whether this is successful or not,
now he's going to take a social credit
because if the slash isn't successful,
it's going to ding the fuck out of his ethos.
He's at 1666.
So now what that does is it opens the door for anyone that was on ethos
that liked monad like they could come in and fucking slash the fuck out of of tut so i'm
waiting for that to happen um but yeah so and it takes a lot to get to me he said like i said 1666
they should fucking go after him.
I mean, look, fucking do whatever you want.
Yeah, but anybody can do it.
But I think the guy was doing something that made sense, you know?
Yeah, but other-
It made sense to test that out.
And if other people want to slash him, then hey, that's well within their rights too.
I think this is just a further illustration of why something like Ethos is maybe not as useful as people want to pretend. No, but, but the next point is,
is that what he is doing against is against the,
is against the slashing terms and conditions.
Is it? What are the slashing terms and conditions?
I've never looked at them.
In the, in the terms and conditions,
it states that slashings will be voided or some shit
if it is to manipulate some type of financial gains.
And so I would imagine it's not going to get slashed anyways.
So they're going to let the effect roll out, I think, the way it's going to roll.
And then Tut will just get penalized for doing it.
But I think if it would have flipped in Monad's favor to where it would have been bad,
then it could have ended up, you know, getting reversed.
But apparently it's against the terms and conditions.
I haven't looked at the terms, but somebody with a really good explanation in the comments of the slashing
had like described everything down to a T.
So, but either way, I mean, it fucking worked. the slashing had described everything down to a T.
But either way, I mean, it fucking worked.
And he was able to manipulate enough people to change the market.
Dude, I mean, consensus is consensus, right?
Like, if you have consensus, then that is what it is,
and that's what the platform is based on.
Well, no, that's a bunch of greedy.
Everybody says we live in a democracy.
We don't live in a democracy.
We are represented by people.
Your vote is like, yeah, it's a metric,
but it's not what actually gets sent in for what actually counts when it comes to any of this shit.
But all of this going up like this from 6% to 31%,
this is nothing but people trying to make money.
That's all that is.
This wasn't a consensus against Monad.
And once his tweets started gaining traction,
people started flipping their bets around
or putting money on there as quickly as they could
because they seen the price rising.
So they were able to make money.
It did a good thing.
It created volume.
He ended up getting like 10,000 in volume,
referral volume from people clicking on
his link to go buy the fucking chart so it was kind of like a double grip there on that um
so yeah pretty still pretty interesting a lot of manipulation in in um in uh prediction markets
and we're gonna see more and more and more of it as i think as as uh time
goes on so but yeah um all right fucking uh that was a lot of shit on on uh prediction markets
today man um it was a lot of news there yeah um another tweet that i pinned up at the top is from raul paul uh this guy's been claiming that bitcoin
is gonna full send at the end of the year and by february mid-february bitcoin's gonna be
200k or above and he's been he's been claiming it since almost the beginning of the year
and he puts his theses out there. He puts charts.
He does everything.
There's a pretty good video.
It's about two and a half minutes.
Go check that out.
Where he talks about Bitcoin's final ascent has begun.
And, you know, the break of a four-year cycle to a five-year cycle.
And, yeah, some really good stuff.
Does anybody understand the theory behind the five-year cycle?
Because, I mean, the four-year cycle has always been based on the happening.
What is the strong thesis behind five years instead of four?
I have to slide this fucking blue.
That's a really stupid fucking question.
I don't know.
Yeah, I have no clue.
Does anybody know?
Why would the cycle be five years instead of four?
In my mind, it's either going to be a four-year cycle
based on the obvious happening of Bitcoin,
the most important fucking asset in the cryptocurrency asset class,
or, you know, maybe the whole cycle thing is just broken
and things kind of, you know, move to the beat of a different drum.
But, you know, and if the beat of that drum is a five-year cycle,
I just, I don't know.
I want to understand, like, why five years?
Why not six?
Why not four and a half?
Like, why is five just an arbitrary opium number that everybody's putting up?
Because we're at the end of the fifth year here?
Yeah, I guess it's just one up from, you know, one up from fucking four.
I don't know.
I think it's dumb.
He probably just cracked a tooth down there listening to my dumb ass.
Yeah, I know. Yeah. Fucking, he probably called you a bonnet or something some weird yeah some weird shit uh yesterday black rock ceo larry fink um and uh coinbase ceo were on stage
being asked questions i don't know if you guys heard this clip it's 45 seconds i'm gonna try
and play this one uh but it's pretty good because you know larry think it always been
been against crypto right kenny yeah he and uh he flipped bears to bullish yeah but he got fucking
confronted on stage in front of thousands of people just just real quick uh side note for
blackrock their most profitable thing this year has been their ETFs.
Of all the shit they have, the most profitable they've made,
the most money they've made is off of the Bitcoin ETFs.
So, of course, he's going to be in favor of it.
Oh, yeah.
They're just cleaning up, you know.
Well, I'm going to play two clips.
So I'm going to play two clips.
One's 45 seconds.
It's him talking about crypto.
And then the other one is why he thinks Bitcoin is about to fucking gigasend.
Here's this one.
Let's see if it plays.
Called crypto an index for money laundering.
BlackRock.
And thieves.
And thieves.
Yes.
Money laundering and thieves.
You now have the biggest Bitcoin ETF.
So what happened here?
I have very strong views, but that doesn't mean I'm not wrong.
But by having strong views, you have to test yourself and ask yourself.
In my role, I see thousands of clients a year.
I have, you know, governmental leaders.
And we have these conversations that my thought process always evolves.
And this is a very glaring public example of a big shift, in my opinion.
Yeah, that's called the motherfucker got a big ass bonus this year.
And he's making a fuckton of money now.
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
And then in this other one, this one's only 20 seconds, but he talks about sovereign wealth.
But I can tell you there are a number of sovereign funds that are standing by.
They're adding incrementally at 120, 100.
I know they bought more in the 80s.
That's fine.
And they're establishing a longer position.
And you own it over years.
This is not a trade.
You own it for a purpose.
But I can tell you there are.
Yeah, so he's talking about sovereign wealth, buying Bitcoin.
He's talking about countries buying Bitcoin. The whole entire interview is really good between both of them.
Because Coinbase CEO is like,
we're not trying to compete against BlackRock.
We're not trying to compete against Michael Saylor.
We're not trying to compete against anybody.
We're trying to be the infrastructure for these ETFs
to have a place where these people can come in and buy them.
We want to partner with them and and in help grow bitcoin and get bitcoin in the hands of millions of people around the world and
you know so that's why like you know and now you see the banks like bank of america said was it
was it bank of america that was four percent who was it yeah yeah so like they're they're telling
people to allocate four percent of their funds to, to a fucking,
to cryptocurrency.
So it's,
you know,
it's,
it's pretty good stuff,
man.
Yeah.
Just for clarity,
BlackRock's iShare Bitcoin ETF has become its top revenue source,
generating an estimated 245 million in annual fees by October of 2025.
So it made almost a quarter billion dollars as of october
off of the bitcoin etf the ibid yeah that's that's wild so of course he's going to be in favor of
the fucking cleaning house yeah you know yeah yeah doing good um but it's i mean it's it's really
bullish for all of us so yeah i mean um, the ETFs under management, the AUM,
approaching $100 billion across the various Bitcoin ETFs,
$100 billion in a year just off of the ETFs, the crypto ETFs,
which is insane to think about.
So clearly there's a high demand for it.
There's no denying you
anymore you can't you can't come up with a good argument as to why it's not a good idea at this
point people want to yeah i agree i agree um yeah and then has your brother said anything else about
like stuff they're doing at his job they They still, you know, they can partially advise.
I was asking him the other day.
I was like, so, you know, I was talking to him about Vanguard,
the whole stuff with Vanguard.
And I was like, so why aren't y'all doing it?
He's like, you know, they're thinking about it.
They just haven't pulled the trigger yet at AIG.
So that should roll out at some point here in the near future.
I mean, look, you can't get left behind the competition.
If everybody else is offering it, you have to offer it as well but they're a little bit more
on the skeptical side they've been skeptical on it because again it was a security at one point
just now the regulation the regulatory clarity is just now being addressed over the past year so
they haven't you know taken the step over the line just quite yet but they are
considering it heavily so should happen at some point here yeah uh cftc approves first u.s
regulated spot crypto trading uh on cftc registered exchanges you can start buying spot on, you know, through TradFi, basically. Yeah. That's how it works. Yep.
And then $12 trillion,
Charles Schwab says it will offer
Bitcoin and Ethereum trading
in early 2026.
Yeah.
So there's another catalyst there
for that.
The flogs minted out, Kenny.
Yeah.
Saw that. They flWOGs minted out, Kenny. Yeah, saw that.
They FWOG'd on up.
I was not fast enough this time, Kenny.
I never showed a mint button.
Yeah, I had the mint button.
I had fired off the transaction.
Mint failed.
Minted out on me.
Like literally mint out in seconds?
Oh, yeah.
Like, fuck yeah.
I think it was about a minute and a half, I think, is what it was. No, it wasn't.
I hit the button.
Dude, 9 o'clock hit.
The mint button lit up.
I hit the button.
Within 30 seconds, I came back, and the transaction had failed.
Wait, but you were able to do your guaranteed mint, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've still got the two guaranteed mints.
But, yeah yeah there was uh
there's no luck today on the third mint but that's i've still got my two flogs so i'm pretty
happy about that how are you uh floor prices 0.222 eth top offer 0.21 uh total volume 200
265.27 easily uh on the day as far as volume
well maybe not
yeah no nothing yet
I haven't seen anything
look CryptoPunks sold 5 CryptoPunks
at 185
it's saying Fox 173 right now if you look
at the collection leaderboard I don't know
if this is up maybe that's 24 hours
yeah so I mean these started selling at 8 o'clock yesterday morning.
So they're doing it from 11 o'clock to 11 o'clock.
But, yeah, still, regardless, I mean, it's not even comparable.
1,988 sales over the past 24 hours.
Clearly a demand for them.
These were aemint sitting at
.222 right now.
Yeah, I'm curious
to see what happens when reveal comes.
Do we know when the reveal's happening?
Nope, no info yet.
I checked what and Berated's
accounts this morning. They specifically
were like, yep, next question, when reveal?
I wonder if they're gonna
push it out for a few days
just to try and rack up as much volume as they can
pre-reveal. Maybe.
I'd hate to see them push it too
far to where the hype dies down,
but a day or two,
I don't think people would get too uncomfortable.
The last ones
aren't minting until Monday.
No, they're already minted out.
No, bro, it's already minted out.
There was never going to be a public.
There was never going to be a public.
Who is behind this?
Why is this so popular?
The artist.
Go ahead, Kyle.
I was just going to say, I mean, the reason it's so popular is because that one dude is like a fucking CT hero.
He's a Yuga team member.
He's the artist behind the IP of Fall, which a lot of people love to begin with.
You said it. You said it. Yuga team member. There you go. That's all I behind the IP of Fall, which a lot of people love to begin with. You said it.
Yuga team member. There you go. That's all I need to know.
Okay, so...
He's a very popular artist.
That's it, though, but that's it.
He's a Yuga team member.
That's definitely not it. He's a popular artist.
Period. There's other team members on Yuga...
Matt Moon, I'd chill for a second.
There are other fucking team members on...
I remember... What's his name uh
fuck what's illa i remember illa tried to mint out like a music nft thing on fucking ape chain
it didn't exactly do well like just because you're a yuga team member doesn't mean you automatically
music nfts were stupid let's be honest here Let's call it what it is. Well, that's fair.
That's certainly fair.
But to that, you know, Moon, he has another collection on Solana, which is called The Pond, which is a more exclusive mint.
There were only 100 Pond NFTs, and these are done by what?
Who is the artist of FWOG?
And I believe those are like four or five thousand dollars now granted
there's only a hundred of them so this was this is his second collection essentially it's a little
bit of a bigger collection obviously five thousand five hundred fifty five i think you know people
are looking at the pond saying well these are four or five thousand and you know so these should do
well as a larger collection that he's putting out.
So, yeah, I think that has something to do with it as well.
What is the whole point of these, by the way?
And one more question.
I actually really like the art a lot from what I've seen.
I like it a lot.
Reminds me of Gumby.
Gumby?
You know Gumby?
He's kind of like – he's got that vibe to it.
I mean, I hope it's good.
I hope it does good i thought about buying
one you know but i don't know every time i buy it i wish i was fucking solana rich i just went
and looked at the pond uh collection i mean the floor is 29 almost 30 soul but 39 soul there's a
rorschach one dude holy shit rorschach and that's still for my favorite characters of all time ever that's still 4 300 yeah what is that
it's called the pond that's on the alien right yeah on magic even on solano they don't have
that so i don't use yeah they do right i mean on openc say you can trade any coins you want
over there but no you can't do nfts on openc which kind of odd. I don't know why they didn't. I don't know why they
incorporated Solana
coins and not NFTs. I mean, I know why they
incorporated Solana coins. Obviously, that's where
literally all the volume was on
chain for the longest time, but do the NFTs
too. You're literally an NFT fucking marketplace
first.
Can you give me the Solana name one more time?
The Pond is the name of the collection.
Yeah, The Pond. You're going to have to scroll down a little bit, Moon High, because there's just not the solana name one more time the pond is the name of the collection yeah the coincidentally
the coincidentally scroll down a little bit moon high because there's not uh there's just not a
lot of volume on this it's only a 100 collection just just search the the collection name just
search the pond oh yeah that is dude i love these little outfits of these uh you know they the good
vibes club did it with the pepe i love that when they have the suits. I feel like that's a... Most of these are one-on-ones
of creators on X.
Shiv has his listed at 107 sold right now.
Who else has theirs listed?
I think Adam got one.
I think this is Kuro's right here.
It's 74.9 sold.
Did you guys all get whitelist for this?
How did you get whitelist for it?
What did you have to do?
You had to buy boxes and all kinds of shit.
The fidget old sale of the physicals,
they had a sale for these IRL toys, basically, a flog.
If you minted those, that gave you a whitelist spot.
But they didn't announce it.
I love that.
They didn't announce it until after the mint was over.
Oh, that's an imposter, dude. See, I like
shit like that. Nobody innovates anything
in this fucking space anymore. I'm filled with
ideas. I just don't know how to code anything,
so. Or I'd be a millionaire already.
But yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Alright, Kenny, did you sign up for
Bears and Salmon?
You didn't?
I signed up for that the other day.
I got dropped in a chat.
It looks like it's going to be another AVAX. You know that KOL chat that you got kicked out of, Kenny,
for being inactive as fuck?
Uh-huh.
Oh, yeah, that one.
Yeah, there you go.
So you had only 72 hours to apply to this,
and you had to go in, do a couple of tests.
It was the same thing as the wink shit,
and we were talking about this the other day with Jonah,
but who's doing it?
I don't know.
It's Bears and Salmon.
It's on AVAX.
So it says,
Born in the Forest, Raised on Memes,
a bear and salmon retelling AVAX folklore.
So it's going to be interesting to see what happens with this.
I'll tell you what happens if you want to know.
Well, you're not fucking Kenny Stradamus.
Like, you don't know if it's going to just pump and dump.
Oh, I'm giving it a shot.
I want to hear him try to be Kenny Stradamus so we can laugh at him if he's wrong in a week.
Well, no.
I mean, dude, AVAX had this.
Do you all not remember?
We remember.
10 months ago.
Yeah.
AVAX had this little mini run on these meme coins
where they had this allow list
and people who were able to, you know, buy pre-sale.
There were diminishing returns.
Oh, shit, dude.
I made it.
I made it.
We just talked about this the other day with Jonah.
Like, we were talking about Winks and all that you did. Yeah, congratulations on advancing. I fucking it. I made it. We just talked about this the other day with Jonah. Like, we were talking about Winx and all that you did.
Yeah, congratulations on advancing.
I fucking advanced.
And I didn't pick number three either, dude.
I'm telling you.
So, yeah, I mean, it's definitely a pre-sale,
going to be a pre-sale for a meme.
Is it going to cook like these other ones did?
Who the fuck knows?
I mean, what makes you say it's definitely going to be a pre-sale for a meme?
It couldn't be like a fucking staking Ponzi kind of game kind of thing i mean maybe but there's a meme involved oh yeah but
with two different characters here it reminds me of like wolf game or like cock versus honor which
was more a vaccinated back then you know i don't know we'll see i think diminishing returns five
percent of solana volume right now is meme coins it used to to be like 90%. Solana is fucking...
You remember when Bitcoin took off
and this fucking guy showed up with
Mime Tendo the next day telling us
what we do about this? Yeah, he's going to
show up with Moose and Frog
after this. Watch.
Honestly, I had no
interest in trying to even
sign up for it because
go look at those coins
go look at we don't even know what it is like it doesn't matter though if it drives enough hype
they get enough people's attention it even if it lasts for 24 48 hours if you're able to put in
10 avax which is fucking probably next to nothing 14 140 because avX is like 14 bucks. Okay. So if you put in 140 bucks and you get a
thousand bat, like who gives a fuck? If you get 500 back, who gives a fuck? If you get 200 back,
it's $60 more than you had yesterday. So be grateful for the little gains. All right. Kenny,
I'm going to need you to stop fucking naysaying, dude. Yeah. Sorry. It's not up to your standards
of investing. I will pray that it works out for y'all. We don't even know what it is. Sorry, it's not up to your standards of investment. I will pray that it works out for y'all.
We don't even know what it is.
Kyle, I'm high-fiving you because we got in.
Yeah, dude, and this fucking Sour Patch bitch didn't.
I know.
Jesus Christ. I saw it.
I saw the sign up.
I scrolled right by it.
You shouldn't have scrolled right by it.
Why?
Just because Vogue quote tweeted it and said she's in,
I'm going to go fucking follow?
You went?
You went?
All I'm saying, Kenny, is AVEX seems to, of the last couple of months,
made somewhat of an attempt to recapture some mind share.
I understand that it hasn't gone well,
but you can't deny that they have tried, whether successful or not,
to kind of capture at least in Kenny's mind,
abstract and,
and,
abstract and Cardano.
Arthur Hayes came out on an interview the other day and he said,
the only L ones that matter are Ethan Salon.
Everything else is trash.
Well,
that's Arthur Hayes's opinion.
Are you going to go off of all of...
Did he sign up for what slash of Monad?
Yeah.
No, Arthur Hayes actually tweeted that he got into this.
Oh, did he? Yeah.
Yeah, Arthur Hayes is big on bears and salmon.
I'm 100% sure.
Just letting you know, bro.
You can't judge a book by its covering.
You can't judge something on what's happening in the past.
I hope it goes well for y'all.
I want to see my friends win.
I personally stayed away.
I didn't want anything to do with it.
It doesn't sound like it.
The thing is, Kenny, we don't even know what it is yet.
It's not like I put any money down.
All I did was sign up for it.
For sure.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.
It happens.
Yeah.
All right. Some abstract chain updates they are slowly uh updating the wallet kyle and i don't know yeah
and i don't know if you noticed this but when you go to abstract and you go to your wallet
um and you go check these things out i just noticed in the uh when you go to my wallet in
the upper right hand corner it now has tokens tokens and NFTs values broken down for you.
So you can see your tokens and your NFTs and realize just how much money you wasted on JPEGs
and didn't hold in liquid assets.
But also, so right now, your filter is most likely showing all of your NFTs,
like the images of them.
Is that correct?
If I go to NFTs, let's see what happens.
Oh, my God, dude.
It's fucking freaking out.
Yeah, it shows all my NFTs, yeah.
All right, but look right where it says show all,
and then there's a little picture that's lit up white.
Click the lines to the right and it'll
actually break your nfts down for you show you how many you have four price top offer uh so they're
they're slowly upgrading um this yeah yeah new functionality some new organization i like this
yeah so luca did tease about version three of the portal coming soon.
Probably won't see it till next year, but apparently it's really good.
It's a pretty big upgrade.
But if you're not following Saigar, make sure you follow Saigar
because he's constantly dropping little updates
and different things about what's going on.
So, you know, pretty good
stuff there. You know what I don't
I wish there was a way for him to
keep track of staked NFTs
because like
Gigaverse, you don't have to stake your shit, but like
on-chain heroes, you do.
And it doesn't see any of that, which I guess that's
not really that much different than anything else.
If they're leaving your wallet, you're not going to see it on OpenSea or anything like that.
If it's a hard stake and you're forfeiting your NFTs, not forfeiting, but giving them to the protocol.
I guess that's up to the project itself to do soft staking instead of hard staking.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So on this tweet right here, actually uh voxel queen actually asked him
um where is her tweet can we add uh the rayui stakes there as well so yeah so i i would imagine
that you know if she's questioning him on that then maybe they'll they'll do something to show
uh staked nfts at some point. Moon,
what's up, bro?
Moon High, you got your hand up.
Moon High, you put your hand up as we were talking about
abstract. Holy shit.
Moon High. I was going to say,
sorry, I was talking to my brother.
I'm about to leave the airport. I'm just trying
to get last minute shit.
Look, I thought it would be cool.
You know, I'm a big Spotify fan.
You know that.
And you know how they do the unwrap.
I really think it would be dope if OpenSea did the whole unwrap thing and just kind of went through every NFT through the year of what you bought,
how much it's worth.
It would be kind of a cool little thing.
That would be so traumatic.
I don't even know what that is.
It basically unwraps everything you've listened to,
your top artist, your top song, your, you know, how many,
how long have you listened to, how many times did you play this song?
How many,
it basically breaks everything down into these categories of what you,
what type of music you listen to everything for the whole year.
Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, I'm on Spotify. So I of music you listen to, everything for the whole year. Oh, okay.
Cool. Yeah, I'm on Spotify. I saw them just to listen to some podcasts or whatever.
Yeah, so if you go there right now, it will say
unwrap and you click it. Boom.
Cool.
My God, I just went and looked at
Abstract's
meme coins. Oh my God.
See, look, this guy, here he comes.
No, no, no. When y'all when y'all just
said about the update on abstract i went to the site to go look at it and i just so happened to
stumble across uh abstract coins you know the things y'all stumbled across yeah you just gotta
wait you just gotta wait you're gonna make all this money um top collection as far as volume
abster 34 052 in volume over the past 24 hours okay that's good
purgy penguin remember that one remember purgy penguin 1700 in the past 24 hours pengu's wife
6 400 guys remember when the reds book out told me that my tweet about abstract meme coins being
dead was gonna age like milk i I'm just going to bring that up
one more time. Yeah, you should quote tweet that.
Redspot has done $1,520
in volume over the past 24 hours,
guys. Remember, y'all were telling me
I need to go buy these?
Yeah, dude, we told you
it's a long-term hold.
We said it's a long-term hold.
It's been 10 months, bro.
I don't want to hear a goddamn thing about
it's been 10 months from a fucking creeps holder kenny powers bro i still think dyslexic dog
is gonna be one of the biggest winners all right 1 1 170 in volume
one of the biggest winners 0.38 it is now%. It is now at $530,000 market cap.
I'll tell you one thing, dude.
Kenny Pappers pointing out
obviously an egregiously horrific
these fucking metrics are.
Might be a bottom signal
on abstract meme coins.
I might get bottom.
These metrics have been here
for fucking two months, bro.
I guarantee you
if Luca Nets was on this stage,
this motherfucker would be
cock-gobbling rather than fucking
than saying your fucking meme coins
suck. I bet, bro. The metrics
are lying. You would not have the balls to say that to you.
I would read him the volume and ask him what's going up.
Okay.
What? KP, look.
See if we can make it happen after our abasm.
Look, they just need to stop it, KP.
Okay, I'm going to go to this pudgy penguins event.
I'm going to the bearish event. I'm going to try to bring
what are you going to do? Flip your cock out and fucking say...
What are you going to do?
I might.
I might.
Get him, Moon.
Get him.
I got a few words for Lucas.
Lukey.
What's his name?
Luca.
You don't even know the guy's name.
They're not going to let you within 10 feet of this motherfucker.
I'm going to send a message to security right now.
Watch out for this little guy showing up.
Fucking.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, Kenny, you just need to have an open mind.
Put some money over there.
I take it back.
Take a.
Take a.
Finance, guys.
Take a thousand.
Listen, take a thousand dollars.
All right. Take a thousand. Listen, take a thousand dollars. All right. Take a thousand dollars.
Put 200 and put 250 on Appster.
No, put a thousand on Appster. No, take $10,000.
All right. $10,000. You got enough money. You're retired. Sure. You owned your own business.
You know, put 2,500 on Appster, put five
grand on a dyslexic dog all right and then put
another 2500 on bitcoin and that's those are the three you need to worry about i was gonna buy
anything i'd just buy a fucking bitcoin and uh dyslexic dog because i do still like that meme
uh i think part of the problem though is that like dude I just don't think like the abstract portal
was ever even meant to be attractive
to like your fucking mean coin trading
dgens like it's supposed to be
normie friendly not like
fucking Dorito stained fingertips
haven't slept in two days fucking attractive
like I don't know man
it's a great portal to get
people into like gaming ecosystems
and digital
identity and all that but man i just i think you gotta fucking spend some time in web 3 before you
want to try to like survive a chart with a bunch of motherfuckers that have been here for years
yeah yeah i agree uh before we let pete up don't bring him up yet let him sit there and marinate
for a second but i like pete i know but I want to talk about Creeps uninterrupted
without this fact bag fucking coming in hot and heavy.
Because he is.
He's going to come in and talk about fucking all kinds of shit
while subway noise is happening in the background.
And I'm just, I'm not in a fucking mood for it.
We'll talk to him in just a second.
He can celebrate his bears and salmon because he got accepted too.
That's right.
Yeah, but anyways, so we never discussed what Joe had said in his announcement in the Discord.
talking about how they were trying to basically catch every narrative and
that they're now like,
fuck that we're focused on the chaos that created creeps in the first place.
I think it was good.
I think it was a good message that he put out.
but like a lot of the DMS and things that I see from people is they now they want, they
want motherfucking dates.
And I mean, what do you guys feel?
Like, what was your, like, what did you think of the messaging from?
Kenny probably didn't even read it.
I'm not even going to be a fucking dickhead that fuzz his own bags with the fucking PFP.
I still love creeps as an IP.
I still think, I still think it's going to be a huge
successful moment at some point.
As far as the messaging,
the comms, and everything else, I'm just not
going to say anything because I don't have anything nice to say about that.
Okay.
I mean, everybody can agree that comms
had been shit and have been
shit. That's not a secret.
Yeah, it's not a secret. Yeah. It's not a secret.
And a lot of projects deal with this.
So we hear about creeps more because we're creeps holders.
but I mean,
if you're bullish,
like forced to habit,
forced to habit said that these are his guesstimates and forced to habit is
one of those very high,
highly respected trader in the UK.
His guesstimates, ETH breaks out soon
into the $5,500 to $7,500
K range.
2026 ETH blow-off
sits in the $10 to $14 K
band with a tail
with a tail extreme near
$20 K. Bitcoin blow-off sits in the 140 to 180K band
with a tail extreme above 200K.
CryptoPunks, 750K to $1 million.
Pudgy Penguins, 150K plus.
Creeps, 70K plus.
Checks, 15K plus.
Nakamigos, 10K plus. You know why i like this take and it's not just
because the numbers are big it's because he's actually basing his take off of what he thinks
the broader market is going to do and not just based off of i'm i want something now because
i've never touched another asset other than creeps and i'm impatient i like that he's actually
looking at the market they've been explicit about the fact that they're waiting for uh an alt season a rally on all coins
so that the market's ready to receive this coin and all the other activations are kind of designed
to put the pump on it right so it's all like bullets in the tube and it's all comes down to
market timing which they have explicitly said before, but yet, nonetheless,
I still constantly see conversations about, you know,
how, oh, they haven't delivered anything.
Oh, they said this. Oh, they didn't do that.
It's like, bro, they explicitly said what they're waiting for.
So anyway, I like this take because he's looking at the market
as what's going to determine when things happen,
which I think is a good take.
Yeah, well, I mean,
but Joe doesn't mention anything about altcoin season.
You know, whenever they drop a coin.
He put that, look, let's be honest here, okay?
Let's be honest, Kyle.
Can I be totally transparent and honest here?
Let's be transparent.
Okay, we had a fucking whale put a suicide note
in a fucking droop chat,
and then the floor cascaded down 50 fucking percent.
And all of a sudden this message shows up.
Okay.
This message is a reaction to the community being a bunch of fucking retards.
Sorry.
But that's the truth.
The fucking truth is this was a reaction to the community.
I don't think so.
Not an announcement about what their intentions are.
Their intentions have been made explicit
and everybody needs to calm the fuck down
and be patient or sell.
One of the two.
Anyway, I'm done.
I'm not going to fucking keep ranting on this.
It's fucking...
Yeah, well, that was more of an extreme take
than I was looking for, but...
Yeah.
Because I hate this stuff.
Dude, I fucking hate this conversation.
I just... that's why even
talking about creeps no it's not talking about creeps it's just like i don't know dude well i
mean you took the conversation let's try to hang on every fucking word in the fucking announcement
or every little message in the discord let's let's look for the clues let's uncover the secrets it's
like dude but that's what they're waiting for it But this is what happens in Web3.
Too much speculation kills a project.
Enough speculation
boosts the community and gets people
engaged. And then
you have lack of comms.
Then that kills fucking everything.
So, like,
now it's a matter of, okay, are they
going to do what he said
at the end of this message where he said persistence of chaos begins this month?
The creeps account has been tweeting for the last five days more often.
So whether or not this continues or not, I'm not sure.
You know, there's seeming to be some type of a rally in within the community.
We just got to wait and see what the guys decide to do.
We are four days into December,
and a lot can change.
Like, next week, Bitcoin could be at $60K.
Bitcoin could be at $120K.
We don't fucking know.
And so, yeah, Danny just said,
sadly, it's not just creeps.
All NFTs are suffering right now.
And these same conversations are happening in doodles in a Zuki discords.
Fuck.
That is a fact.
Yeah.
It's happening.
Especially like wheels.
Look at his shitty ass sappy seal.
Like who in the fuck goes and buys a sappy seal wrote.
You would have been better off sweeping alien friends or even these shitty-ass Bitcoin puppets that we're bringing up.
You better stop.
Like, who really?
This guy made so much money off WOG,
he's going and buying fucking sappy seals.
I think that is a good point, though.
This is like across the board in NFT communities,
and I think that there's just a slightly unique phenomenon
in the creeps community where a lot of the
community members were so euphoric that they never thought they were going to need to look
at another asset again uh yeah you know they're just like we're very siloed in our own niche
as a community so like people just like aren't aware of the fact that this isn't unique to
creeps anyway sorry pete 100 yeah 100 hold on i'm gonna meet him again because i'd hold on i still love creeps
i believe in creeps i believe in dom and joe i if you do start fucking tweeting about your bags
bumping your bags i haven't had a creep in my wallet in over a year and i still tweet about
them fucking every week so go fucking tweet tweet your ass off share it with your friends
uh at christmas go buy all your fucking family a creep it's fucking christmas give something back um but anyways yeah i agree i still love creeps too
i've always been bullish on creeps i've never fucking did like and look i love the community
too like it's a great group of fucking people it's just like at max pain i just can't stand
to be in these chats right now dude i just can't stand it yeah all right before pete goes on his
rant wheels what's up?
What the fuck kind of CCP
bullshit is this? Hold on, because you're going to go
on a big rant. I'm not going on no fucking rant.
Yeah, you are. And I know Wheels
is going to just come up here and say, why are you talking
shit about my sappy seal?
All I'm going to say is that
sappy seals have a playtest with Omnia.
So, uh,
playtest. Live. That'snia. Playtest. Live.
Live playtest.
Are you going to arf like the little bitch seal that you are?
I've been liking NFTs. I've remembered that they
are fun.
Oh my god.
Look at this guy.
Now to our gay friend Pete.
Pete, what's up?
Abstract meme coins are about as dead as runes
Thank you
They're part two runes
Don't buy those stay away from those
It's a fucking total scam
Second off creeps
Total fucking scam
Hey bro hey hey hey
See this is how you get kicked off the stand
Let the man talk
I got another question what happened to Somo
You finally get that token yet?
Oh, it's coming.
No, it's coming.
Wait till you see the tweet that drops today from Somo.
Just want to get that out of the way.
Just wait till you see it.
God, dude, it's coming right after Tap Tap Trip season two.
What else do I got?
Yeah, I didn't know Reality Check became an arm for the CCP.
My bad.
Yeah.
Pete, how excited are you because me you
and an idiot all were accepted into bears and salmon are you guys bears or salmon
let me ask you a question i'm a bear let me ask you a question what hold on hold on real quick
let me ask y'all a question do you find find it odd that everybody... Hold on, Pete.
I'm asking you this question, too.
Do you find it odd that everybody you know
who signed up for Bears and Salmon actually got in?
No, because there's still a lot of people.
You've got to be signed up, motherfuckers.
Bullshit.
I know a couple people that didn't get in.
Also, I just want to say about Bears and Salmon,
that was totally an insider thing
that we all got lucky on, A.
And B, which I find a little hypocritical and fascinating, but that's besides the point.
Also, B, AVAX is a fucking scam.
So this thing is going to go nowhere.
Nobody wants to use AVAX.
There's probably maybe 250 daily users on the entire blockchain.
All right.
So first off, to the bears and salmon devs that are in this space, maybe probably not,
but just in case I have no association with Pete.
We don't even have any anonymous listeners anymore,
dude.
We have.
Oh yeah,
I know.
We're so rugged.
Yeah.
I want to make it very clear what we had to do,
dude.
We had to fill out a.
Pete got a call.
I think he got the double mute.
I think the double mute thing,
probably. No, Elon mute. I think the double mute thing probably.
Elon mute.
We had to fill out a form to beg these people to let us give them money.
I didn't beg.
I didn't beg nobody.
I gave short answers and they were smart asses.
We had to say, please approve us.
I didn't say please.
You might have gotten on all fours and barked like a dog.
Pete, are you a cinnamon or a fucking bear?
I have no idea.
My shit with when I filled it out,
my stuff today was about that I said to,
when I put in there, like, why should you get access or whatever?
I said, because Vo and Camel told me that if it didn't do this,
I said something else about that.
I said because I am here for the AVAX community,
I am a funny guy.
I am also a handsome guy.
I am also a talented guy.
I have money, good exit liquidity.
I am a great coin hodler.
Check my Farcoin round trip.
Thank you for having me.
Vo told me to apply.
Nice.
I did the same thing.
Camel and Vo told me to apply. Anyway, I did the same thing. Camel and Vo told me to apply.
Anyway,
monkey do type shit.
We're down bad.
I didn't even name drop
and I still got approved.
I bought a flog.
Hey, Wheels,
you bought any of these flogs?
I have three.
Yeah, I cooked on them.
Of course you did,
you fucking monkey.
Thanks for telling me
to mint the cards, dude.
Nobody cooked cards. Thanks for telling me to mint the mint the card the deals i appreciate the fucking gatekeeper so they never announced the snapshot he sold the top of the boxes and still got whitelist bro
yeah he's still able to man he sold his boxes for like whatever 900 a000. I'm in for $650 per vlog.
I'm down bad.
Well, no. I mean, the floor price is just under $50.
What do you mean per, Pete? How many did you buy?
About like $15.
You ain't got no $15.
I'm just kidding, you fucking idiots.
I bought a handful.
Yeah.
Alright, what else is going on
Pete um nothing dude I'm realizing
I got people protesting
outside of synagogues in New York
City I find that interesting one thing you'll never
see the Jews do is they will never go to a mosque
instead we'll just blow it up
I find that
interesting um the world
is in shambles.
Yo, Pete.
Can I ask you a question?
How are your feelings
with the 7,000
ICE detainees
being released back in the New York
streets?
Not too stoked on it.
Makes me kind of want to get out of here.
Y'all's leadership is top notch.
I thought Bob Donnie was like the second
coming of like brown christ or whatever he got my he definitely he definitely got my vote um he's
doing some weird though he put a uh trans he put a trans woman uh a rabbi trans woman as the health
minister and she's never had any experience being a health minister or whatever you want to call it
um yeah so i'm just gonna take a random guess that she's probably a rather plump
lady too.
I mean,
she's just a white looking like dude.
She looks like a dude.
How did Judaism view transgenderism?
Yeah,
not,
I mean,
we're cool with it.
You know,
like it doesn't really matter at the end of the day to us.
Will,
will they be accepted
amongst the hesids and the extremists fuck no uh but they can be like a regular jew like me you
know yeah the um down in new orleans i've seen it is just like as long as you wait till you're an
adult i don't care what you fucking do yeah yeah look people are free to do what they want to do if you're 25
and you feel like you're still in the wrong body do whatever you want but well i've seen a post
where um down in new orleans they are uh handing out whistles to patrons and restaurant workers so
if ice shows up you can blow the whistle the whistle, yeah, and everybody can get out in time.
That's like crack dealers with their whistle,
like when the popo's pulling up on the corner,
and all the crack dealers just disperse.
Dude, I know my wife's worried,
because my wife is like a scheduling and manager person at Chick-fil-A,
and like the entire kitchen staff is up for grabs right now.
It could be one ice raid and there there
ain't no goddamn chicken coming down yeah yeah um um anyway wheels what's up no what yeah i was
to jump here but i just want to say one thing i said can you guys tell me and peter kind of like
twins now why do you have a big now puppet honorary? Now look at the suits.
We've got suits.
We've got blue suits for a time.
Oh, my God.
I'm starting to see the resemblance.
Arf in my ass. How about that?
I never actually compared a sappy seal to a puppet, but I kind of see it.
I'm offended.
It's kind of the same thing.
Now that I...
Dude, holy shit.
It's like I have new eyes now, dude.
I can see it.
Can you all chill, please?
Yeah. Can you all chill, please? Yeah.
What else?
The reality check went to shit, man.
Yeah, well, you know, that's what happens.
The whole theory how
ordinals was
a strategic
way of, like, taking people's
Bitcoin by promising
them false hopes of a JPEG?
Yeah, but like can you say the
same thing with ETH, especially abstract?
You could. Yeah,
I guess you could.
It's funny when everyone wants to come at
ordinals, you know, like, bro,
every ETH project is down, if not
worse than ordinals.
Yeah, it's impossible. And like people want
to come at puppets like bro
that was a ten dollar mint like what are we what are we talking about here bro like i like like
azuki's were in one eth mint you know they raised they raised 65 million dollars and did nothing
except throw two parties that's true you know so like eth jpegs are just as extractive if not more
because there's way more than them.
I mean, yeah, Bored Apes were 108 at one point.
Yeah. Now they're all six.
But what was the top of Puppets?
What were they?
Puppets were like 32 grand per Puppet.
God bless.
Yeah.
That was a pretty fun time.
Yeah.
these ombs were actively trading for probably a three-week time between 0.75 and 1.5 bitcoin was
OMBs were actively trading for probably a three-week time.
probably a two-month time and then orange eyes happened and uh yeah what what did you think about
the dilution from shark the thing is is like sure am i always like a little bit critical of how much
money was um not taken because we all pressed the button.
But yeah, I mean, like if you look at OMBs,
like it's not fair to say what everybody else raised
and not talk about OMBs.
I think that's a $75 million raise
across all of the projects.
I think OMB sits in a different parallel
because it's not a utility-based project by any means.
Literally the only rhetoric that's ever come out
of ZK's mouth is if you like the art, buy it.
And again, I'm happy to call it how I see it,
but ZK has yet to inform me that he has any malicious intent.
And the money's all still on chain.
You can, if you know how to look at a block explorer,
you can see basically every bit of Bitcoin from every mint
with the exception of a couple hundred grand here and there
for whatever reason, pay Tony, fucking et cetera.
Okay, well, let me ask you this.
What about Udi and the Wizards Mint?
That one's an interesting one because that's a $50 million raise
across QuantumCats and Taproot Wizards.
And what irks me about that, and I guess this
might be a double standard because ZK was probably a little rich when he did the OMB Mint, but I don't
think anywhere near as rich, is Dan Held and Eric Wall. Like if you look into both of their
histories, they're very early Bitcoin miners and very early to the Bitcoin ecosystem. Just like
not ordinals, I mean Bitcoin in general. Pretty sure Dan Held is a Bitcoiner from 2011.
And I know Udi is a Bitcoiner from 2013.
So these people are giga, giga, giga loaded. And again, if you know anything about how a Bitcoin block explorer works,
you can find Udi's taproot wizard, his honorary wizard on chain.
And you can see wallets that he transacts with.
And dude, there's tens of millions of dollars in these wallets.
So it's like like I don't know
man and like opcat that's that conversation is completely gone like
nobody even talks about opcad he doesn't even talk about opcat anymore and
they're overwhelmingly sensitive classic IDF ploy he blocks anybody if you
express any sort of questioning I saw I saw you get blocked in real yeah always yeah
But I mean look they're still holding what point yeah, but I mean they're down but I mean oh and B's are down from in
Too so they're down huge from it there, but I think they're down like 12 bands from them
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, it's rough. It's rough. rough yeah but so it goes dude you know when uh when bitcoin
puppet staking ponzi so i can make sure to front run that bitcoin puppet staking
ponzi i don't think that'll happen um r.i.p your floor nah bro we're fine puppets are fine
ombs are fine it'll all be fine. I think. Maybe I'm naive, which I probably am.
It takes a little
naivety just to move about in this space,
sir. Type shit.
Fuck.
There it is.
I think they could... Look.
If you're bargain shopping,
maybe it's a good time to buy it.
I think Bitcoin Puppets.
I think Bitcoin Puppets, OMBs, and ALUs
are the only thing that matters
if you believe in Bitcoin JPEGs.
Y'all heard it here.
Pete actually knows more about
ordinals than the majority of us.
I know more than me, for sure.
I like ordinals a lot.
What do ALUs go for?
That's a small collection, isn't it?
What is? Who? What? ALUs? What do those go for? I know ip that's a small collection isn't it what what what is who what
what aloo's what do those go for i know that's a pretty small collection right yeah it's definitely
a small collection and meta panda's a meth head uh by the way uh x spaces are asking me if i like
what i'm hearing right now and offering me the option to follow jesus uh yeah i would say yes
aloo's are 0.0023 bitcoin which i think is oh my god yeah they're down pretty bad they're
about 200 oh my god dude fuck that might actually be a buy yeah there's 2 000 of them and like
dude metapanda is so responsive you can hit him up anytime he's built all this crazy 3d rendering
shit he built the whole universe for the metap panda character um it's actually kind of crazy
what he what he's done to be honest for basically a free mint too these were not expensive to mint
i think they were like 25 and there's only 2 000 of them
uh all right uh 12 30 also cents that's a pretty fascinating. I remember that one.
That thing's still
steady at like 400 buckos.
Kenny, I have a question. Yes, sir.
All right. Since you're in the restaurant
industry, we had this debate this morning.
So I'm either going to die or I'm not.
So last night, me and my daughter went and got
some Chinese food.
It's a good meal. Sat down, took our food to go. Told my daughter went and got some chinese food it's a good meal sat down took
our food to go told my daughter i said hey remind me when we get home because we had to go stop
somewhere said remind me when we get home to get the food out of the back seat of the the truck
needless to say she did not remind me and i did not remember so this morning i'm sitting there
talking to pablo and I'm like, fuck.
I left the food back there.
Like I was going to eat some of it for lunch today.
And so I'm like, hold on.
It was cold last night.
Yeah.
Is the food still good?
It got all the way down to 22 degrees last night.
And so I'm like
he's like nah bro you can't eat that
you can't touch that shit
and then so then I got on chat
asked chat chat's like yeah
as long as it was below 40
degrees like you're completely
fine and it
said obviously if it smells bad
throw it away
you know make sure the food is actually cold.
Because the temperature is there now.
Like, how long was it in the truck today?
Oh, I got a lot of...
How high did the temperature get?
No, it was still like 27 degrees this morning when I got it out.
Oh, yeah, dude, you're good.
Pablo lives in Dubai, dude.
Like, he can just fucking literally have some fucking poor slave class MF
or slave class MF or deliver him more food.
or deliver him more food if you don't have that option.
You don't have that option.
Here comes juice.
Here comes juice.
So little did I know,
in my questions here of asking Chad about this,
it said that,
hold on, where's this at?
Oh, I think I asked Grog.
It told me that people tend to leave their food out. People tend to leave their food out people tend to leave their food out like in their car
for like when it's cold outside they leave fucking like they it started naming like some
dumb shit bro like fucking hams and it was it was If it's cold outside, it's
actually... They said it's no different
than a refrigerator. Yeah. Yeah. You ever
heard of a fridge nigga?
That's what happens when you put
your food in the fridge.
Mark it down, slurs up.
Oh my God.
These fucking nub guys are getting worse than my ladies.
All right. Well, that sounds...
Damn, we're past the 15-minute fucking, like...
Mark it down, slurs up.
Kike.
Oh, no.
Come on, guys.
Come on.
Jesus Christ.
Wait a minute, dude.
Okay, now, you two both now.
I'm pretty sure Juice is actually melanated enough to get away with it.
Yeah.
And we all know that you're our senior Jewish correspondent.
Why don't you guys swap slurs real quick?
No, no, no.
He's not rich enough to be able to say Jewish slurs.
That's probably true.
Yep.
You don't have a long enough nose, bro.
Hey.
I'm just saying.
Oh, dude.
No, no, no.
Arabic people tend to have big noses, too.
Yeah, of course they do.
Yeah.
And they smell like fucking shit.
Well, depending in the region. Bye, everybody. Yeah, of course they do. And they smell like fucking shit. Well, depending in the region.
Bye, everybody.
Yeah, this is getting out of control.
Everybody have a good day.
Also smell like shit.
Oh my God. Everybody have a good day.
We will see you tomorrow.
I do not endorse any of this
hate on the stage.
Everybody have a good day and go sell your nub now.
Peace. Peace.
Peace.
