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Reality Check: InfoFi is DEAD?
Recorded: Jan. 15, 2026 Duration: 1:26:19Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the implications of X's recent policy changes on InfoFi platforms, signaling a potential decline in traditional models while highlighting new opportunities for creators through innovative projects like Kaito Studios. The conversation underscored the need for adaptation and growth in the ever-evolving crypto landscape.
Full Transcription
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Let me get everybody on stage.
It's hitting the fan today on X.
Oh, my goodness gracious.
Hey, Jesus.
GM, GM, GM.
Hey, Jesus.
Hey, what?
Why does Nikita want me to kill myself?
I don't know, bro.
Nikita is at it.
Jesus Christ.
I would love to be able to get Pons or Toley,
some of the guys in here,
to talk about all this that's going on.
Here comes the biggest futter of info fi uh wheels
on the bus goes round and round round and round round and round
wheels on the bus morning uh morning it's fucking happy day for you you're probably doing cartwheels
over there aren't you yeah i'm not doing cartwheels because i know there's some people that are negatively
impacted here and i do feel bad but i will say i have been um you know bearish on on zeet for my
personal opinion um and you know when you're making money off other people's platform usually
these things gonna happen yeah um yeah well yeah i mean i guess they want a piece of the pie i i don't know
uh everybody tag pawns tag totally tag fucking scotty tag zeet wheels when you say you're
bearish on zeep like zeet specifically or just like info by in general i mean info by in general
right initially i was it was interesting but then what it devolved into Was not a value add for the space
Yeah I agree
I think Zeke was on the path to
Actually doing something
About a lot of the
Bullshit grifty copy pasta
Type stuff that Kaido just doesn't care
To do anything about
Keyword was on the path
Oh god
Why is everybody
coming up to Gravedance?
You should have been
supporting your boys
no matter what they do
unless they're tweeting about City Boys.
I don't think Kenny Powers
liked a single, not a single one of my
fucking Blanco tweets.
Not a single one.
Oh my God.
I commented on it for you, Cal. fucking Blanco tweets. Not a single one. Every time you post something up at the top,
I commented on it for you, Cal.
Hey, Jesus.
What's up, Tic Tac?
Do you know the whole piece of the pie thing?
Do you think that it is pay to play
to have these API integrations
from like a business account?
Or could you and I establish APIs through an app we built?
Well, so here's the thing. And I, and I've talked to, uh,
I talked to the guys on the Z team in the background about this,
because I was wondering like,
are they scraping API the official way through, uh,
through X and through the appropriate channels?
And they had always said yes.
Like, that's 100%. They paid the money.
It's not cheap.
And they do it the right way so they don't incur problems.
And there's a lot of other brands that do it by building their own bots,
building their own programs that are scraping the data.
And there's already a shit ton of those platforms out there that do that.
So for this to come about is pretty big.
You know, yeah, it's pretty big.
So Nikita said, I have it pinned up at the top, uh, for anybody that doesn't, that
doesn't know what's going on.
We are revising our developer API policies.
We will no longer allow apps that reward users for posting on X, AKA InfoFi.
This has led to a tremendous amount of AI slop and reply spam on the platform.
tremendous amount of AI slop and reply spam on the platform.
We have revoked API access from these apps.
So your X experience should start improving soon.
Once the bots realize they're not getting paid anymore.
If your developer account was terminated,
please reach out and we will assist in transitioning your business to threads in blue sky.
Now, look, I'll say this.
I'm not a big fan of uh x-ray and all the info
vibe of that last sentence pretty hilarious that's a pretty fucking hilarious way to wrap that tweet
up has um anyone happen to look at the uh title chart uh i know jit said it was down like 15%. Oh, my God. Down 21%, particularly in the past hour.
Where are the NFTs at?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Let me go to OpenSea and check that out.
I think Elon is, you know, when he bought this, he went.
I think they're just trying to preserve.
Holy shit.
They're down 48%.
Look at that fucking cliff.
Yeah. I think they're just trying to
preserve like real
users with real opinions
and whatnot. I don't know.
Like GMRU active, bro.
That's what's coming back.
That's what's coming back. Exactly.
Aurelius.
Aurelius, message Daddy Pons there. Tell him
to come into fucking space. Hey, Aurelius, can you
smoke weed and be successful? No, you can't. No here's a bigger question can you hold that kato pfp and
be successful yeah i know it's uh they're getting we by the fucking second i I mean, I'm sitting here watching this. Yeah, what about the Ethos validators, bro? Where are they at?
Well, Ethos...
Ethos is
API Scraper.
Ethos is an info file.
They're not putting up tournaments or anything.
So I don't know. I mean, they may have gotten
just decimated in the
crossfire. I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that, like
Nikita said, but that will be that
will be good i mean is the zeta count still up do we know that yeah it is um okay is it is it rude
for me to ask why i use american mfers can't just concentrate on one thing at a time like
iran or something or greenland well you see in the you see in 80s, they gave all of our mothers heavy doses of Tylenol.
And now,
you have several generations
consecutively born with fetal Tylenol
syndrome, as I like to call it.
You might know it as autism.
This tracks an idiot.
That's why Demi gave me a bottle of that to bring back
across the pond. I haven't even took it yet.
Kaido's on ETH, right? yeah yeah i'm trying to look for it right
now and see where it's where where's where's the price at where was it at i mean 20 minutes ago
i don't know but all i know is nikita just came in and dropped a fucking hammer bro just came in
and just fucking wrecked dude people are melting down right now bro yeah if you go read through the comments
oh my god people are freaking out um i think there has to be a solution there will be at some
point look obviously the backlash this is going to get on the timeline um oh there's going to be
people grave dancing on fucking on platforms that's what's gonna happen all these other kols
all these other guys that that you know shit shat on info fire whatever these guys they already had
their brand established they've already you know these guys are already making hundreds of thousands
of dollars with back deal fucking meme coin access oh yeah with back you know just getting
deals in general so they're already set up they don't have to this is a new path for new creators
this cycle to make their name in the space look i'll tell you what dude the path is clear i need
to put 90k bots on my account following me and then then I need to get a little bit of that undisplosed, brother.
I might not tell you I'm getting paid, but I'm getting paid.
Anyway, guys like Walls, Walls came up in InfoFi, bro.
Walls made a name for himself.
You know, his account blew up.
I remember him from Portal when he was forming Portal.
But like, you know, he's came up.
He's made a shitload of money through InfoFi.
It was a fucking means that like he was able to buy a made a shitload of money through info five it was a
fucking means that like he was able to buy a fucking new car because of it all kinds of shit
it's worked well for him you know but the problem is you know one good story 99 bad stories of like
these just ai bots just slopping it up i mean dude you can't post anything without ai responding to
you at this point yeah well the other the other side of that, these guys are like,
I'd be blown away if Ponds or any of these guys were able to even come
into a space right now because I guarantee you they're on the calls right now
with brands that have reached out to them and said,
hey, we want to have active tournaments.
They've already been paid.
Look at, bro, Kaido charges on average like a hundred plus thousand dollars per tournament so look at all the
active tournaments over there and like it's a lot of fucking money ain't no refunds in web three bro
well i'm just telling you i'm just saying they um they better hope ponds didn't
already buy lambo with that tournament money bro that's all i'm saying but here's the the other
side of it is there's ways to get the api there's ways to make it happen oh my god and i think we'll
see is this real pudgy penguins just commented on the actual Pudgy Penguins account,
just commented on the Gita Bears post and said,
this change might actually have a significant effect on India's economy.
Holy fuck.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
It's pretty funny.
It's hard to hear what you were saying between the whatever's shoved in your mouth
and the laughing.
Hey, cheese, I get it, dude.
I'd be jealous if I didn't have a fucking smoking hot Latina wife
bringing me fucking egg and cheese sandwiches on an everything bagel too, brother.
I get it.
Yeah.
Well, here, bring me some food too.
I didn't want to say her name live on Spaces, but either way.
All right, let's get to Wheels, then we'll go to aurelius and then uh general uh wheels what's
up well the only thing i was gonna say is just um you know i don't think this diminishes the
ability for any accounts to to grow right i mean i think that's always been there now you can just
talk about things that you want to talk about that you know a lot of these accounts got big
because they they talked about things that did well right i mean like you know, a lot of these accounts got big because they talked about things that did well, right? I mean, like, you know, Wizard of Soho got bigger after Show Guy.
You know, Pauly got bigger after Pepe, right?
Like, these things are, um, Dip Wheeler with Fartcoin, right?
So I think there's still opportunities still out there.
It's just, you're not going to have these platforms if they do really go away to tell you what to tweet about.
really go away to tell you what to tweet about yeah and to your point wills like people created
their entire profile about you know ai i mean uh amplify things you know like it's good to have
opinions outside of just something that you can monetize off of right like you know like i like
ct more in 2021 than i do today for sure i find myself spending less and less time on ct over the past
year or so um and mainly because i just didn't find any interesting information out there was
all like regurgitated tweets of you know people just regurgitating tweets so like maybe this will
bring back a little bit more you know original content from people i don't know we'll see how
how it is could i just suggest that perhaps
that's because there's not actually a lot of interesting things happening and it's not actually
info five's fault because i i stand on this everybody bitching about the algorithm there's
the algorithm that i have zero and i say this all the time i have zero difficulty managing my
algorithm i did my whole fucking feed is NFTs,
a little bit of meme coins,
a little bit of news. It's very easy.
Every now and then something sneaks in that I don't
fucking care to see.
You didn't get thrown down the YG fucking
rabbit hole because he
tagged you in some, hey, Grock,
remove my shirt. So many titties
flopping around.
Yeah.
Pretty wild. I forgot the order order but i'm going to aurelius and then we'll go to general wigs yeah i was just going to say
the um the way it's called well first and foremost i don't think it will improve the timeline i think
what you'll start to see is that the bots will switch to fucking absolutely attacking to get 5 million impressions to get a little stimmy off of Elon.
But on the flip side of that as well, I mean,
Jesus hit the nail on the head.
I think this fundamentally targets smaller creators
that weren't fucking AI slot on the rest of it
because, I mean, what's the gateway for them to get into a position in which they can start to earn
or they can start to benefit when Coles have got the largest piece of the pie?
I mean, let's be honest, this will be a flash in the planet.
It'll all be forgotten about in a couple of months' time.
There'll be something new like, I don't know, flashat.com, and we'll all be shilling that.
We'll all be shilling that.
So, yeah, let's uh let's
just have a laugh about it whilst it lasts i'm going to post a rage tweet about how info is
shocking and shit anyway and no one should have got involved yeah that's a crazy chart jesus holy
shit yeah my uh my question though is what is um is it going to be a buy because there will be some fix to this something's going
to change is it a buy to snap up these these kaido nfts and some of the token right now i mean
coin kong saying no i general wags looking at it i'm looking at it in a minute just simply because
um i don't think funds i don't think kato i don't think well the kato
is looking in wall chain whoever i don't think they'll take it lying down as such it would be
interesting to see how they do try to uh navigate this because i mean if he had dropped the ball
twice in what a week first he comes out and says yeah yeah, by the way, even though you pay for premium, you're going to get three posts a day.
Um, now, now your man's on this.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, either way right now, I mean, the token is down 57%.
Um, right now.
Well, I mean, that's all time, I think, but we're no,
where are we at right now?
Kenny?
Uh, no, 24 hours down 17
percent yeah uh it was sitting at 50 take cents right yeah yeah it was trading at 70 and it hit
yeah bottom 56 um yeah that's yeah it's pretty fucking wild um the uh who else uh general wags
what's up and then we'll we'll keep we'll keep moving because
who the fuck is this guy that you're talking about is this the guy at that x that's like
nuking india and all of africa just got fucked too like is this real yeah i mean he's bringing
down some uh he's bringing down he's he's hurting some countries right now i mean he's just hurting
a lot a lot of people i think there's a bit of a disconnect.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
All I know is people are freaking the fuck out right now, bro.
And I'm not going to lie.
It's kind of entertaining.
Can someone get him some freedom for his stuff?
Dude, let's go.
You're in America.
Go buy him, bro.
No, I realize he's going straight to the gun store when he touches down. I already told him dude
Well, I know I know this doesn't affect my partner Toshi bat because like they
That's right. They're just damn Toshi bet. I'd like to thank you for keeping my boy. Jesus's belly full of dino nuggies
We do appreciate that. Oh, it's to be a constant participant and fixture on ct
thanks to toshi bet link in his bio bro i told you i'm going to the gym there is no more dino
nugs like i am at the gym i'm getting my riz back uh it's been 20 years since i had any
but you're getting your riz back hey bro don step. Don't step or you will get knocked down.
He's going to the YMCA.
He's actually getting jizz on his back anyway.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Whatever.
Yeah, hopefully this doesn't invoke.
Who's this coming up here, Kyle?
You don't even know?
Yeah, I'm not familiar with this one but there you
we'll give him a shot all right well we'll give him hell uh yeah i was hoping one of these guys
would have would have came into the space though and a uh very sketchy new account with a retardio
bfb i gotta tell you i've got my finger on the remove button. We're going to handle this one delicately.
I've been in retardio for a while.
I actually wanted to talk about the Iran privacy scandal.
And also, I actually posted it in your chat.
I'll post it on the Jimbo.
But the banks don't want us to own our own money so that we don't have access to all those fees and token rewards and yields and interest rates.
And, you know, this dude, Juice, has been saying for a long time that you should be backing minting.
Yeah, I don't feel like hearing all that today.
It was good to hear from the president of the Juice fan club, though.
Definitely not Juice, but the president of the...
Anyway.
Yeah, because that was leading into us
having our own privacy coin as individuals in the world like we should have like yeah dude that's
what we need we each need our own l1 blockchain as individuals that's what we need uh well jonah's
bringing out a banger too he just said the nigerian government is currently holding an emergency meeting on this matter. God almighty, bro.
I called it first.
People are fucking
dunking on this. I think Pudgy Penguins
beat everybody to it in the actual
comments on his post.
Oh my god.
Savage for a brand like Pudgy Penguins.
I gotta put it.
Yeah, this is some bangers.
What's up, Jazz?
Have you seen the
Kato chart?
Oh, it's fucking a nightmare. Yeah, 55 cent
right now.
Yeah, that and the NFTs are
eating shit.
Well, yeah.
That's probably a good move, in all
honesty, until there's a resolution.
I mean, you know,
we're 30 minutes
off this tweet and it's already dumped like 20 in the past hour like it's going lower yeah
yeah i see these i'm looking at the offers right now on open c for the nfts and i think everybody
that has offers in should put nikita's pfp on their their twitter on their open c bio just to say that uh nikita is getting
an entry on kaido um yeah this is the brothers teams just panicking everywhere right now so
yeah i can imagine there's a lot of backdoor meetings are happening right now you know behind
closed doors like people going what the i mean yeah it's uh
obviously amplify has played a pretty large role in ct over the past year and a half uh so we'll
we'll see how they pivot from this yeah uh 0.21 eth on the actual nfts i haven't checked the wall
chain the quack things either those nfts uh came out not long ago
oof look at the floor in these nub nfts not only did they nuke info fi they nuked my mute button i
can't even mute right now uh yeah the quack heads the quack heads bro down 58 percent uh 1.24 soul
down 58 percent uh 1.24 sold on quackheads that's for wall chain for anybody that doesn't know
uh what those are so those are getting cheated as well um i mean do you buy the do you buy the
fucking fear though that's the thing because these companies are going to have to pivot to
getting the api some way somehow or, they're just going to die.
I mean, some of them are probably going to die, right?
I mean, I don't know.
I'm not buying none of this shit.
I wasn't participating in any of this InfoFi shit except on Z to begin with.
And that's because I thought Z was actually actively trying to deal with a lot of this bot AI bullshit type shit.
I've been a fudder of InfoFi for years at this point.
And a hypocrite because i started
participating on z but that's all right yeah exactly um yeah i mean that's uh it's pretty
big news but i mean well yeah wizard of soho uh rip info 5 kaido to zero like everybody is fucking
uh dancing on graves here so uh maverick said holy ggs this is sadly also what happened
when your entire business model is predicted on somebody else's api um oh hold on scotty may have
said something uh thinking caps are on now oh yeah well you fucking think that's, uh, yeah, that's pretty wild. Well, congratulations to
myriad because myriad finished their tournament on, um, on Z so that, that was, uh, successful.
They got it, got it out of the way before this. Um, like, I don't even want to go to the Z fucking
platform. It's probably got a big fucking X on it right now saying stay tuned um i wonder what happens to my pendant zeats though
do i still get those i don't know i don't know but sure oh it actually says under maintenance
the site is actually down oh shit yeah i'm sharing it. I was being a smartass when I said that, but oh, my God.
Yeah, Z under maintenance.
The fucking timeline is going to be crickets,
except for fucking EZ and everybody else shitting on InfoFi.
Oh, good.
Good, my timeline.
Yeah, dude, CT is going to be silent.
All I'm going to get is just jit worshiping at the altar of
candace owens all day on my timeline yeah that's when you that's when you block that motherfucker
yeah d said uh let's go fuck info five fuck the slot bots fuck yappers fuck you perverse incentives
uh fuck content creators who regurgitate the same shit uh now cancel all creator payouts on this website and
we're cooking with gas fucking yeah this guy he wants fucking world war fucking 10 um yeah i mean
that's a little strong on the grave dancing i mean like i get annoyed seeing the uh ai slop
regurgitated copy pasta bullshit too but there is a lot of people you know putting out genuine
content i i don't know man i of people you know putting out genuine content i
don't know man i mean i all my shit was genuine like i i made some ai images but like i think you
guys can probably guess i'm not a real artist you know i'm typing the words i'm typing them words
myself i swear is it it doesn't yeah get for me here's the thing a lot of these people are probably using grok to make their ai they're using grok to write
these ai slot posts so now are the use i want to i wonder what the fucking they won't ever release
the real numbers but like now are the real no the numbers for grok gonna go down drastically because
you know as jonah said you have fucking the whole nigerian whatever fucking using grok to spit it
into english for a post like i mean what what happens at this point i don't um pretty fucking
wild uh wild stuff uh did johnny i know you're heartbroken bro you never got your zeet certification
uh i'm gonna go ahead and certify you right now and I also blame you
for copying people's posts
like that's part of the AI slop
Dajani
do you have anything to say
for the reason for this
Dajani
you're not fucking farming the stage
right Aurelius
wait a second I'm going to kick you the fuck Aurelius. Wait, wait a second.
Yeah, I'm going to kick you the fuck off.
No, no, no.
What do you mean you're shitting?
Wait a second.
You literally told us to hold on so you can wipe your ass?
This guy hit the request button just to come up and say,
hold on, guys.
Hold on.
You wait for me.
I know.
Are you at least playing a little Toshi bet while you're on the shitter?
Toshi bet even come off mute?
I don't know.
No, they're not.
They're just hanging.
Yeah, they're just hanging.
Chilling out.
Yeah, well, thank you.
We're here.
We're here.
Oh, okay, good.
What's happening?
Do we got any gravedancing posts from fucking Toshi about InfoFi?
Let's see what's happening here.
No, no, no.
We don't really like, bro, like it's like what's happening here. No, no, no.
It's like the space the other day.
Focus on the positive stuff. There's no need for grave dancing.
I really agree with that.
I'm back.
18 months ago, everybody was so positive.
Somebody else is talking.
Yeah, no, it's true.
It's like
the cycle of grave dancing is wild because once info five
whatever happens here there's going to be something else everybody else rotates to
grave dancing on oh bro like 18 months ago it was always like you guys will never succeed and
things are going really well it's like they're trying to tear everything like we have like
you know like the more you're growing like the more people try to hate on shit.
So it's actually really good.
It's the crabs in a barrel shit, you know.
Nobody wants to see anybody else win while they're not winning yet.
Just because it's someone else's day, it doesn't got to be your day too, dude.
But shut the fuck up and celebrate other people's wins.
Why do people focus on negative so much?
I don't get it.
Like, bro, it's what you guys said the other day.
Like, if you take the energy of hating something that you don't like and you make it to loving something you do support, space would be better.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Because everybody loves to fucking yell scammer or whatever, you know, be negative and shit.
You can find people that will call everything a scam, everybody a rugger, everybody a villain.
That's not a good indicator of where you should put your attention.
Because you can find that for anything. But they think like, think like okay everything's going well everyone's like good vibes and then they're
thinking like on a space like if we're listening it's like oh yeah he's really gonna hate hearing
this but like as you guys saw i just text like the team like guys this is so brilliant like come
listen to this and then we're like laughing about it it's not like but i think they really feel like
they're doing something,
you know?
Yeah.
I actually took it,
clipped it and I'm working on some content for it.
Like a rage bait tweet.
especially around the part where it's like,
I got took my free money.
If it went somewhere else,
I was like,
Oh my God,
bro.
but I was so good.
It was.
Yeah.
Uh, fucking Jesus Christ. People are christ people are wild man uh it's about
an airdrop and he's building on abstract who said q4 like yeah yeah you know amongst the sea of
motherfuckers that said q4 well yeah anybody yeah no matter what you were in, in Q1, Q2, your favorite founder on any platform was saying, hey, Q4 is like, we're looking good.
But then guess what? Q4 didn't actually end up looking good.
So what do you want? Do you want your favorite projects and platforms to, you know, deliver you something that goes to zero right away because of the conditions that we're in?
And then what? You're going to call them a scammer anyway, you know? You're going to get those tokens, they're going to go to zero, what you're gonna call him a scammer anyway you know you're gonna get those tokens they're gonna go to zero and you're gonna be yelling scammer
anyway so like i don't know man i'm uh i'm i'm forever patient but you know that's the advantage
of like having a real job right a lot of these motherfuckers are like a lot of these motherfuckers
are leveraged to the gills their fucking power is about to get shut off and they need a w right now you know so
i don't know man it ain't gratification yeah yeah it's crazy they uh i think they struggle to look
at it from like a business perspective though i think a lot of people look at it from their own
personal perspective and they're saying like they'd rather like let's say 10k now than 50k in a month
you know because they just want it done with.
And it's like, just be patient with these things.
Like, it's not abstract to pump fun.
And it's like, it just wasn't the right time to do it.
It would have been retarded.
And then, yeah, it's exactly what you said.
If you do do it, then it's like everyone's saying, oh, it went to zero.
You guys sold all the tokens and blah, blah, blah.
So, okay.
So, you can't really win either way, but it's not.
Bro, it's not good it doesn't matter
any brand that does a tge even if they do it in three months at peak market conditions
three months later people are going to be grave dancing on them because the fucking tokens down
uh because you know everything went down it does not matter you can't win you can only hope to you know continue bringing value to the to your consumers
um and um you need the business to grow and then you can do buybacks and things but then also you
get funded for buybacks because it's not organic so it's like there is no winning but i think as
long as the price goes up is you keep everyone happy it's fine yeah yeah and i mean lucas said
he's like i can tg right now between one to three, Bill, and it would be a successful TG.
You know, like in a crazy fucking way.
He's like, I want to TG a 20 to 30, Bill, which is fucking absolutely wild.
And he obviously is just implying that he wants to wait until the best time.
So we're seeing it all over the space.
I can say that that's crazy, but I liked hearing that.
That made my nipples hard, dude.
I was like, dude, fuck yeah, because I'm willing to be,
I'm in a good position to just be patient
and wait for a massive success to be a possibility, right?
Yeah.
Yo, this is crazy.
Nikita's tweet, not even an hour old.
822,000 views, 6,000 comments, 12,000 likes, bro.
That's because he's using fucking bots to
bot his fucking post. No different than all
these fucking InfoFi guys.
I am a buyer.
I am a buyer. Well, go fucking
buy. You're not buying anything, Dajani.
No, fuck you. Fuck you, except
wallpaper. That's what you're buying.
I bought a clockhead
and now I'm transferring from my ledger
to buy a yapiara because you're stupid if you think a company which made not you but
people in general um you've already told me you and now you're calling me stupid so johnny's
fiery today dude i like i like fiery to johnny dude Let's go Johnny called Jesus stupid again, dude
I like that. No, I didn't call him stupid. I just think that
Jesus you're stupid dude. I agree with you
Johnny who made millions and millions and millions and millions and more millions that they don't will find the solution to bet
This asses on X. I don't think so. They will find a solution. Yeah, but the company's not in control of X.
Elon Musk is.
Oh, bro, they will find a fucking solution.
They will pay some other company
who gets the data
or they will make 10 companies
who get the data.
Come on. They have millions.
They can produce something.
Yeah, they can.
Or they'll just build something.
And that's what I said.
But those brands are at risk for then losing their whole X account.
And that would be a problem.
Yeah, violating the policy.
Kenny, what was the one that we were doing?
And a long time ago, it was like a year plus ago.
Hub.
And then they were like, oh, Hub, yeah.
Then they were like, oh, we need to move it all to our Discord.
The whole fucking project went to shit because their X account got taken down.
Now, Dajani, I mean, you're buying the run back up
because the Yappy Bears are back at .265 ETH.
So they did get all the way down.
Yeah, well, they did get all the way down to well they did get all the way down to 1.18
uh there were a lot of that's not to say that uh the little bounce that you're seeing right
there's going to be potentially a couple of cascades down i mean we don't know right like
i don't know i would just i'm not going to buy any of that shit again because i was never going
to participate in any of this shit other than zed anyway, because it doesn't seem... I mean, look, I get the point, right?
Like, the point is that X is sick of having to deal with all this botted AI bullshit content.
I get that.
And that's why I didn't really participate in any of these other platforms before.
Which, you know, if you did, good for you.
you and if you weren't making ai bullshit and you were putting out genuine content that's awesome
And if you weren't making AI bullshit and you were putting out genuine content, that's awesome.
but it it it is a fair argument that these platforms do promote a lot of a lot of shitty
content that just clogs up the timeline i guess um yeah i liked zeet because you know ponds and
scotty and toly and them you know they were adamant about the fact that they were gonna
fucking smite the shit out of people doing that kind of stuff. And they have. And you've seen creators, quote-unquote,
I'm doing air quotes right now,
freak out because they got slashed for posting, you know, bullshit content.
Yeah.
I'm a fan of that.
That's why I participated.
Z posted seven minutes ago.
By now you have seen the latest decision from X regarding InfoFi.
While Z has never considered itself a true InfoFi platform,
we are obviously affected by the decision.
We have been assessing our next steps forward
and we'll send a communication on that soon.
In the meantime, all campaigns have stopped.
We will be working with our partners to resolve the obvious open items
like getting payouts distributed for campaigns that have ended
and resolving campaigns that are currently running.
So definitely a big fucking,
you know,
big old fucking kick in the nuts for these brands and the people that were creators on there.
yeah,
I'm going to rotate it real quick so I can fix my mute button.
I'll be right back.
All right,
cool.
Who came on stage? Can I just say, yeah, go ahead to Johnny. Opinion. I'm gonna rotate so I can fix my mute button I'll be right back all right cool I have the feeling that X has much bigger problems than info 5 because if
you go on any topic on this platform there are hundreds of thousands of spots
and I don't think that the biggest problem is the small city circle.
Yes, they are contributing to the problem with InfoFi.
But if you go on sports, if you go on music, on whatever,
there are hundreds of thousands of accounts who are farming it just to get some money out of the X-Creator payout.
They don't even know about infofi so yeah just coming across and
saying that infofi or crypto is responsible for the ai swap i don't agree so and all those
platforms they have found ways to slash this bots and they don't get yeah but exit and looking at
all that shit they they look at it as an info
five project and they're gonna fucking they're gonna revoke everything so like when i look at
nikita's tweet here kenny pointed out it's got 949 000 views 6 400 comments i guarantee you 90
of that is fucking bots it's all fake people people. It's people that are trying to engage,
people that are trying to get their accounts,
these bot accounts monetized.
Imagine if you were able to have the ability to do this
and you could run a thousand bot accounts on X a month
and you're getting monetized even $20 a fucking an account.
That's massive.
Yeah, it's a lot of fucking money.
And these guys are doing it from third world countries where the amount of money to the $20 is like fucking,
I mean, they're living in like the Taj Mahal.
So what the fuck is Kyle doing?
This guy's all over the place.
So yeah, we'll see what happens.
Coin Kong GM, sir, what's happening?
Sorry that your creator arc is now shut down.
I have never been involved in InfoFi at all.
Let me go check the loop board and see where you ranked at there.
Hold on one second.
Oh, I can't.
Well, if I'm up there, if I was up there, I wasn't on purpose.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, no, like I'm not going to grave dance.
You know what I mean?
We're going to see how uninteresting most people are now
and how their accounts cannot be run
because they are not botted.
And I can get back to looking at
hot women in plush Moon Paytals.
Please send me a
Where are you at? I don't even see you on the stage
Good talk
Oh sorry, I'm sorry
No, Kyle's talking to me through the fucking
Uh, yeah, no
And that's good, like, I mean, you should not go
Grave dance on people, because chances are
Someone in the community you're involved in
Someone of your friends Somebody like that was trying to make you know they're trying to figure out
every which way they can to make money right now uh while memes are kind of coming back yeah you
can go play in casinos or you can go do risk games on fucking every chain uh even on abstract like
there's other ways to make money,
but the cheapest, easiest way to make money was Infovi.
And people built big brands.
They were successful.
And, you know, now that's getting shut down temporarily.
But that's the problem.
If Zit or Kaido or any of these people come back
or Kaido or any of these people come back in these campaigns,
and these campaigns start off,
start off and all of a sudden there's 10,000 or 20,000 accounts tagging Kaido.
Then guess what?
That's going to bring attention to the Kaido account.
They're going to go look and see if Kaido still grabbing API or doing
whatever.
And then they're going to fucking delete the Kaido account.
Then they're going to delete cookie kaido account then they're gonna
delete cookie and wall chain and zeat and so on so yeah i don't know what these teams do at this
point um i other than that i say we move it all over to uh the base app that's where we go
yeah because i guarantee you ct's energy is not going to be welcome on threads or blue sky
that's for sure yeah yeah exactly um let's get to some other hands we'll get back to you to johnny
keep wiping your ass uh and then we'll get back to you uh mullet what's up bro i know you came up
yo what up i uh finished wiping my ass before i came on stage i'm like thank you i appreciate that
but um no i just had a couple things to call out.
I'm wondering when an idiot's going to drop a Tylenol ticker.
And also, an idiot said something about people having real jobs, but he's also admitted that he doesn't do shit.
So I'm kind of confused why he's throwing shit at people with real jobs.
Yeah, dude.
You got to fucking look, man.
When you get into a factory where I work, you pick shit up and you put it down on a skid for about fucking 10 years and then you get a nice
cushy operator gig where you
push some buttons and tell other bitches to
put that shit on the skid. Then you talk to your
friends on Twitter all day. That's right.
I put my time in, brother. I earned that.
Turns out an
idiot's not an idiot after all.
But yeah, I'm sure
there's probably like
a fucking 100,000 tylenol tickers
it's probably i don't know we could we could launch around now um so i went to kaido their
platform is still up uh wall chain their platform is still up with nothing regarding any of this
uh and zeet's the only one that said they're under maintenance. And I agree with G-Mer that
Ziet should have not taken down
their platform.
They should have never put it under
maintenance. It should have stayed up.
What's the harm in books?
I don't know. Fucking stand up.
Fucking put your sword in the sky
and fucking face defiance.
Fucking, you know,
fuck Nikita.
That's what you say.
All right?
Okay.
And say, we're not going to take it.
Did you not hear the song that I played?
It's definitely a good idea
to give the middle finger
to the guys that run the platform
that your entire business operates off of.
Wow.
That's definitely a strong strategy, dude.
You know, they should put you in charge
of the entire operations
on all of these InfoFi platforms.
Maybe we can get them all banned in one day, dude.
You could do...
Hell, you could do all that.
They might as well get you Nikita's job.
No, I'm going to get on Claude Code after this.
Within a few hours, I will have a new crypto Twitter built.
Okay?
And that's where we're moving to.
That's what's happening.
So you're going to use AI to combat the AI slap?
Yeah, no.
Yeah, I'm going to use AI to duplicate the format of X, but not the bullshit of X.
Hey, did you already see the Z tweet 15 minutes ago?
I did.
I read it.
We talked about it.
Well, I was trying to get back on stage, but why did you just tag me in it?
All right.
Yeah. I'm assuming you saw the one from Cookie an hour ago, too. Yeah. about it well i was trying to get back on stage but why why'd you just tag me in it all right yeah
i'm assuming you saw the one from cookie an hour ago too yeah uh didn't see that one uh it's just
a long-winded same thing but okay yeah uh gmar actually brought up a good point we could all
move to avax and go over to um uh to the uh the what is is the one over there?
It's something star.
Arena.
Arena, yeah, the Arena app.
Yeah, so Arena might get some pickup there.
But nobody's over there.
So, like, yeah, it's very difficult.
Dijani, your hand's up.
You screamed anyways, but go ahead.
So Kaito came up just a few minutes after the announcement of Nikita,
and they said that they are launching Kaito Studios.
And they put in that they become an S-Pro service for influencers,
where they will give the best one the possibility to share content.
So, and they say after discussions with X, it's agreed that the fully permissionless distribution system is no longer viable, nor aligned with the needs of high quality brands, serious
content creators or XS platform.
Kiteo Studios will be much closer to a tier-based traditional marketing platform where a brand
selectively work with creators who meet defined criteria and deliver against previous goals.
And it should be cross-platform reach,
X, YouTube, TikTok, and more.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
In other words, KOL Marketing Agency is what they're going to...
Yeah, that's all they're turning into.
So now Kaido's got a pool of creators
that placed high enough in all of their tournaments.
And they're now going to pull these people over.
And, you know, it's all it's going to be is another marketing company.
Yeah, it's going to be a marketing company that tailors to the big accounts.
Yeah, exactly.
It's going back to what it was.
They'll select big accounts, then like medium accounts and to what it was they'll select they'll select big accounts
then like medium accounts and small accounts is what they'll do they they're gonna have to
well they they will because they want to reach each sector of of like of creators and i've been
on the end of this they're gonna end up doing this bullshit and they're going to say,
here's five example tweets.
Make sure you guys do something like this,
but nobody ever changes the tweets.
And then you got a hundred people
from this fucking one company
tweeting the same fucking bullshit
for one brand.
And it's kind of dumb.
Well, it's clear to me
that the fact that this article came out
20 or 30 minutes post Nikita Beer,
I think they had a heads up that this was happening.
This must have been something that was being talked about in the back channels
because they came out with a solution relatively quickly.
Yeah, or it was something already in the making.
Prez, what's your thoughts, bro?
It was in the making.
It was in the making. Prez, what's your thoughts? It was in the making. It was in the making.
I just heard
in another space the last
days that there is
something coming in the next week
with Kaito, which is huge.
Probably they have launched us
to say
to the
downfall of their token and their
NFT stop. We are here. We find a solution. Etc. Yeah, to say to the downfall of their token and their NFT,
stop, and we are here.
We find a solution, et cetera.
I'll tell you what, you want to talk about a fucking timeline full of repetitive, uninteresting bullshit.
The timeline right now is literally every motherfucker talking about
is this the death of fucking InfoFi.
I'm not even going to be able to look at the timeline today.
This is actually the worst worst timeline experience i've had in all of my memory anyway yeah let's say what's up to
prez real quick doing prez is a g what's up brother it's good sounds like uh sounds like
kaido's trying to steal bad brother's idea honestly exactly bro bad brothers like was
fucking he was like fucking we would call him bad brother
miss cleo because he like it sounds like they're creating creator flow and i don't know how i feel
about that well i think everybody should use his platform yeah but and that's the next thing does
he get stepped on by the big guy like maybe uh maybe buy him out or something i don't know
yeah yeah because i i because they had a space.
They had a stream yesterday
where they were on there with Chris D.
There was a bunch of people on there.
But they were showing that off.
I think Sansa and a couple others.
And it's really good.
I can go in there as a creator,
offer what services I can offer,
set my prices.
He's going to have brands there that you can like submit to um and then get get deals whether they're big small
uh or whatever it kind of caters to the creator he's also rolling out a cool thing uh he hasn't
announced yet but he's rolling out a cool thing for the deal flow people as well so if you're or people who might be tight with
uh any companies or potential people to get on the platform so there may be opportunity there
as well oh okay so like if i bring uh a company there it's like a uh like a it's like not not a
fucking finder's fee it's it's a maybe a finder's fee maybe yeah
yeah yeah no that's pretty like when he came in one of the chats and dropped that like a lot of
people were laughing at him like said tell him to fuck off and i signed up that day and uh it's
gonna be interesting to see in six months i should have screenshot all that shit but it was in the
old chats that way i could go and be like
hold on weren't you weren't you fucking just telling him the fuck off not long ago uh and
now you're trying to use this on your fucking chain uh but yeah but one thing i think is gonna
have to happen uh bad bro he can't sit there and look like fucking 21 frank d gods with the
bandana and the fucking hoodie i literally said that to him
like this morning i was like bro i hate to break it to you but if you're gonna be doing videos you
gotta fucking dox like yeah yeah he's got the shave he's got the cleanup he's a fucking founder
you want people to take you serious you're not that bad of a brother like yeah yeah yeah so like
when i've seen him all i could literally see was the line
right underneath the fucking sunglasses in like the bridge of his nose and uh yeah i was like
this stream looks good but who's the unabomber at the top i already knew who it was but it's like
come on we gotta fuck it's fucking 26. Just go buy some goddamn guns
if you're worried about people coming at
you. Honestly, dude.
The mountains at the back of a cul-de-sac
at the top of a hill.
Hold on. He's coming up now.
And this is good for him.
By the way, I can
promise you right now, I've talked to Bad Brothers.
This bro, he's got guns already.
Yeah.
Bad Brothers Press was up here donking on you on you man about not fucking doxing i don't know what's going on i
was trying to tell him like yo you gotta you gotta calm down uh what's happening no man uh uh you
know maybe i gotta dox now you know competition's heating up now i think everybody's gonna try to
pivot what i'm doing already you know you find a nice niche you built for six months and then uh nikita beer fucks over the
other companies and they're like oh now we gotta now we gotta copy bad brothers but uh you know
we're rolling some more stuff out so uh i'm just gonna have to go quick and work harder so uh you
know that's that's the way it is yeah bad bros can you like can you pin something so that like
anybody that's listening that might not be aware of what you've built out can get a good look at whatever.
Just whatever's got all the links and whatever so we can go check it out.
Because I've heard a lot about this.
I've glanced at it once myself, but just for anybody that hasn't already been exposed to it.
Yeah, I'm actually uh posting
uh chris d's stream from yesterday as well explains a lot of the platform so if you go
back to chris's uh profile you can pull up the stream that i believe was recorded uh it explains
a lot of it let's go yeah yeah but i mean in short it's just um you know what do you call
part of the problem with info 5 obviously was a lot of the slop.
People feel like they're not getting good things or whatever.
And then, you know, for creators, you know, if you want people to produce good content, you got to pay creators, right?
So I built CreatorFlow, which is a place for creators and businesses to manage their deal flow directly with creators.
Creators can make their own packages.
They set up their own profiles.
They could show off their portfolio in terms of what they've done um in terms of uh what they've created and um companies
can propose deals to them companies can propose campaigns and people can apply to them so um yeah
really kind of focus on creators on that um part of the advantages at least going forward that i
think i'm going to have versus some of these other things is we take no fees from creators all that
comes from the business side right and in addition to that, I'm rolling
out today, I'm working on it now, but it's almost done, a referral service, right? Where if you
refer a company and they close deals on there, you're going to get the first out of the platform
fees, you're going to get the first $1,000 and then 20% of that thereafter, right? So I think
that'll be a good incentive for people to bring business onto the platform whether you're a creator with existing
deals to get that company on board to the platform um and yeah it's a full system where people can
track their deliverables companies can approve them you can set your revisions in terms of how
much uh people you want people to pay you for revisions or just um set a hard stop so really
try to build out everything that creators and companies could want
that wasn't InfoFi and wasn't like agency led, right?
It's supposed to be an open marketplace
and platform for creators.
And what do you call companies
can come together and make deals.
So I think a couple of people
are gonna try pivoting that now,
but I'm just gonna have to push harder.
That's what it is.
Luckily, I'm pretty much at the point where I'm like, all right, I rolled out everything I wanted to besides this last thing.
You know, if this happened two months ago, I would have been like, fuck.
But at least now, you know, I pretty much got the platform set.
People are joining and, you know, moving forward.
Yeah, real quick, Jit, I see you down there.
And if Cube gets on, bro, I want the referral.
Just throwing that out there.
Oh, my God.
Well, of course, I'm not even going to bring it up.
You might have to go through Hayden Davis.
Oh, he said it.
Okay.
Now I got to call you bad or something.
Nah, I didn't.
Holy shit, dude.
Sorry, you got a fucking badge.
I would love a Hayden Davis referral.
Are you kidding me?
Oh, my God.
Let's go. Send it. My great grandkids would be retired if I had a hayden davis no fucking shit right yeah uh exclusive uh
exclusive early access on all coins um yeah i'm uh i'm actually sharing creator flow uh bad
bros when you dropped it in the chat a while back, I had immediately signed up,
and then I never went back in, never did anything.
We were talking about this a couple
of weeks ago, and I can't remember with who,
about Creator Flow.
Might have been with Chris.
Was it with who?
It might have been with Chris.
It was with Chris. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm old, bro. We're all old.
We can't remember that much um
but yeah it's uh yeah it's really dope and i've actually brought like two brands to an info five
platform and they were like thank you appreciate it and that was it and i know they had they well
they did have deals that were getting done um i don't know what's happening now um so i might have to rotate
creator flow yeah sounds like they need a new home jesus let's go exactly you can actually
programmatically get rewarded for that you know it's gonna be all built into the platform so yeah
i'm tired of doing shit for free bro um it's a lot of free shit happening i just added the video with your cameo to my profile too
by the way on creator flow who's with my with with mine yeah oh shit what'd you do clip it just now
no no i did it yesterday but uh yeah i added the uh the new year's video
oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no that bro that was great i don't know what the fuck you're doing
with those videos and how you did it but that's those are uh man those were fantastic when i seen
the first one um i was like okay this is cool and then the after party i was like what the fuck
kyle did you see these videos uh sorry i was i was quote tweeting bad brothers this thing yeah
i look like i got butt fucked by some, somebody after the part.
I don't know what happened.
My POP.
Sounds like a typical Friday night for you, bro.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
we're not going there, but yeah, it was, uh, it was pretty good.
Uh, Chris, what do you make of all this, uh, going on?
Well, this makes me so happy.
Are you kidding?
I I'm relishing in this moment right now. My God.
I feel like for the longest time, everybody's like, I just had an idea. That means I'm a content
creator. I just wrote a sentence. That means I'm a content creator. Like there's all this bullshit
about writing sentences, making you a content creator. I'm like, the fuck you are, bro. You're
copyposting everything to try to just farm some easy money why don't you actually try why don't you put yourself out there on the internet
and if you don't believe in some shit and you're gonna write sentences saying that you do
at least put your fucking face behind it so we can see you lie through your teeth
right like all of this shit about people saying things are good and they've
never used it they know nothing about it they don't care about it and then by the way you're
describing exactly what i just did with bad brothers's platform but go ahead yes hell yeah
but we couldn't see you and that's why i'm saying and listen hot fucking take spaces is not content
spaces is a watering hole for us to get together and network.
It's amazing networking.
Social audio is some of the best networking you can have.
But it is not content until you make it content. And I've not really seen social audio turned into videos that's good.
Not pretty much ever.
And so seeing sentences being like, oh, yeah, it turns out it's really easy to fake uh fake
doing all this stuff when all you have to do is copy pasta or write a sentence and like it's not
good for humans it's not gonna just use ai to fucking slop your way through everything
i don't know i'm just a big proponent of creators i think um there's a lot of shitty people in
the space big companies that everybody wishes
they could work for but turns out when you work for them you get paid late they'll try to short
you everywhere they can it's actually a pretty deal and you can't even talk about it anywhere
because you'll be outcast why wouldn't we want that kind of shit on chain? You know what I mean? Like funds are in escrow, deliverables are done,
and funds are not distributed.
Why?
Why the fuck are you being late when you don't have to
and the money's there?
I feel like the checks and balances of content creators
pulling their own weight and actually being valuable
and then being paid for their value on time
for the things that they've actually done
and other people can see this happening like these are good things um so yo down the toilet
info five goes fucking good riddance dude the the other side of that does all the noise uh drown out
good creators that don't get enough reach that don't get seen enough even smaller
creators even big creators but they don't they don't get enough reach because it's drowned out
by all the bullshit like do we start seeing other people come up and be like oh fuck who's this guy
like his videos are awesome or like discoverability has always been an issue right same thing why you
can't jump on twitch and blow up because no one's going to fucking see you.
But listen, like, dude, huge shout out.
One upgrade to Creator Flow that came out last night.
I finally got to use it for the first time.
I'm so stoked on this.
There was a product a few years ago on Clubhouse
called mediakits.com, and I loved it
because you could go, there's a small creator
throw all of your different social media stuff on there and just show off your best stuff that
company got bought out the kid was smart as fuck he sold it to some douchebag that never used it
and went off into the sunset and there hasn't been anything since until last night where bad
brothers didn't update to creator flow you just throw all of your different social media posts
from different platforms, all that stuff,
rearrange them, recategorize them however you want,
and just have a nice portfolio
that's easy as fuck to put together.
And then you go show off your shit.
And by the way, that's all sitting there
in this big market of creators
that people can scroll through and like the whole
point of it is discoverability from brands and so like yeah if you're good you know you know how
you know you're good because other people start telling you that and they see sands has got to
step his game up he has like nothing on his what is going on bro i'm gonna talk some shit this guy
was sitting there tell me get off the fucking magic eating
streams and get his fucking his shit together like he's probably binging a series on netflix
or something i know no he's been he's been kicking ass but yeah like listen i i want to put everybody
on that i see on that platform filling out their stuff i'm gonna go out of my way to spotlight them
and just be like yo i just found this person today on creator flow like you brands are sleeping on this person if you're not hiring them like i'm
just gonna go hardcore on that for a bit let's go view your profile real quick we're gonna we're
gonna run through this yeah so see you have your ex you have youtube instagram uh website uh
everything's there uh your focuses your content formats um now where oh featured work
so this is the stuff that you were talking about uh documentary other works uh this is is this what
you were talking about that yeah yeah just last night for the first time um i when i originally
loaded all those things in there i took like 10 or so posts and different videos and stuff that i had made and i
put them all in one category and then after that bad brothers released this you know a way to
categorize your different content so you can kind of group everything up the way it belonged like
so it fits together so now i'll have all of my stuff with ai video it's going to all live in
one little category all the stuff that has irl events or
podcasts or like fucking insert thing i'm good at i'm going to group all those things together
and then people will be able to just browse a whole shitload of that one thing because that's
what they might be interested for for their business here's the one thing that people get
so nervous about mad brothers i don't know if you have any any say so on this or whatever but
this is the one thing and i've talked to many creators about it and i've also ran into this
problem as well is pricing how do you set your price to where you're not overpricing but you're
not underpricing yourself because you know while you are good at doing something they could find someone on deal for
on creator flow that might not be as good but it's it's you know half the cost but i understand you
got to stand out as your own and be your own creator but some type of like pricing guides
and there's no public information about that like unless you know unless somebody leaks a fucking oh you know
avax paid all these creators a hundred thousand dollars like you know it was sometimes we see that
you know but you know how does a creator know when to pay what what they're worth is what i'm asking
well what i would like to do once the platform really gets going we start getting deal flowing
through there etc is be able to build right now I have some rag stuff going on with AI, right, where it redacts all your information
or whatever, but pulls out like some statistics and things for that. What I would like for
eventually to happen is once you get those things flowing through is be able to develop something
like a pricing guide for creators and stuff, right? So they can go, hey, this is the type of
work I do. What can I suggest? And it can look at the data we've collected or whatever. And I don't
sell the data to anyone once we have that. I want to make that clear. This is for, you know,
creative flow only, but so people can more properly price their offerings or whatever,
right. And get the most of their works. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like based on your following,
you might have zero to 5,000 or 2,500 to 5,000 followers. It gives kind of like an average on
what, you know, should be expected for a post or a quote post or a video uh and then it just goes up based on like your follower rank and uh maybe
some shit like that i guess is that what you're thinking right and i mean like because the data
right now is obviously so opaque right sometimes we get like those leaks from like i remember what
was it like six months ago there was one thing that had that like leak of creators that were
getting paid for certain things of pricing but like right now like none of that is like publicly available right so i would hope that eventually once the deals get
going and everything i could develop something that both protects user privacy protect company's
privacy but give some intelligent information as to how you can uh price your uh creator offerings
right yeah yeah and and that i think would because a lot of people are too uncomfortable to figure out. You know, they're nervous as fuck to say, well, yeah, I want, you know, $100 for a post.
Like, you know, people just don't have the balls to say it.
Like me?
I don't care.
I throw out a number out if they say no.
It's the worst thing anybody can say.
But if you're overpriced and then you're not getting deals on creator flow, that's going to be the quickest way.
If everyone around you is getting deals,
then you got to look at what the fucking problem is.
It's either your content or your pricing.
So which one is it?
And then you're going to have to readjust something.
If you know your content's good,
then lower your fucking price,
you greedy bitch.
And just try and get a few deals.
you know,
I do like it. I'm'm gonna get on here get all
my shit set up i'm gonna steal some of chris d's content but my pfp on it that way i can try
uh and get some good deals you know we run ai slop through creator flow that's uh just
running it right off of chris's stuff but no i wouldn't do that um but yeah excited for you though bro
uh i like it i think this is pretty good stuff and uh yeah you were ahead of the game
and hey for you guys too anybody that wants i have a package where i could send you a zip file
of all my content uh you just put your pfp on there29.99. It's going to be on my website. It's Shreditor.com.
You can all do the same thing as Jesus.
It's still my content.
Okay, there you go.
See?
That's what I'm fucking talking about.
I like it.
Chris, I'm about to send you a DM, but I can't send you this,
or I can't talk about it publicly,
because then somebody might copy that, too.
And then it could get bad hold on i gotta not
share this tab but uh yeah so what do you guys think you think all these info five platforms
are dead or do you think they're gonna go to this studio style like kaido like what do y'all think
happens i mean some are probably gonna pivot like that but some some i think may just close up shot
depending on how much they aren't or whatever and pivot something totally else i would guess yeah um hold on i'm fucking sending this
uh yeah i mean they would have to because we're seeing also um you know it looks like like reach
and uh what is the other one ap collective Collective. There's all these marketing companies that have never,
I think they were affected very heavily by InfoFi.
By InfoFi, yeah.
And they might have lost a lot of deal flow in business that way.
Like Zeta, I know for sure, because AP Collective,
I think they had almost every abstract brand.
They were having their KOLs promoted.
And then now, ever since Zeke came out,
I haven't even seen those guys anywhere near anything.
Now, that also could have been because of the fact that Finn left
and there were some other things going on in the background.
But yeah, we'll see what the fucking timeline's like. some other you know some other things going on um in in the background but yeah it's uh it's it's
we'll see what the fucking timeline's like yeah i'm either gonna end up with a bunch of fucking
um you know iran shit or you know hopefully some decent some decent stuff yeah i might pivot to
political twitter for the week just to avoid the like literally every time i go to the timeline
it's just your
third then your fourth and your fifth favorite influencer and it's the same tweet it's just r.i.p
info pie it's like okay guys did you even look at the timeline before you tweeted that come on
let's try to be a little original here yeah um well we'll see what uh we'll see what goes on
the rest of the day.
And if the price is...
It looks like Kaido's price is maintaining, Kenny.
It's sitting around
57 cents, so
I'm surprised they didn't shoot
back up, but I don't know what the fuck they're going to do
with these NFTs
and how that's going to work
on a... I don't know dude god help the mfs that
are in like the time zone where they're asleep right now and have a fucking quacker bfp or
whatever those things are called i know so many people are gonna wake up just wrecked
fucking did johnny just bought one at 1.4 soul and these quack fucking things are down to 1.051
soul i mean there is became a zeet certified fucking creator are you
did you oh no no i didn't but uh i'll say this i don't i don't know the teams
of any of these other info five platforms other than than Z. Scotty and Tully, they're very smart, very innovative guys.
I'm sure they will come up with something.
But there is an argument to be made that Wallchain and Kaido and them,
they've got enough of a treasury probably by this point
to build whatever the hell they need to build.
So is it over for these companies? Probably in the form that they're in right now, but that doesn't mean they need to build. So, you know, it's... Is it over for these companies?
Probably in the form that they're in right now,
but that doesn't mean they can't innovate
and, you know, rise from the ashes or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll see what's going on.
Fucking Coin Kong just bouncing up and down on this bitch.
What are you doing over there, Coin Kong?
Whoa, dude. What? um whoa dude what whoa dude no
no get your fucking head yeah everybody gets your fucking heads out of the brother i'm wearing
fucking jeans right now bro calm down yeah i have sweatpants on so it's a little easier. And Kong Kong likes that reverse Snickers, though.
Either way.
Irish, what's up?
You came up.
I'm going to say cooked.
I'm just going to say they're cooked.
But I would also like to see the same AI slop that everybody posts on Twitter
because people want to get monetized on Twitter as well.
You know, what are they going to do about that?
All the fake political posts you see out there,
all the fake other content you see that's ripped off from, you know,
creator to creator to creator all copying the same garbage
because they want to get monetized.
You know, what are they going to do about that?
You know, I'm all for stuff getting trimmed out,
but I don't think we we'll see info 5 back um yeah i just think it's a matter of who's willing to risk
scraping the api and getting the data in another way and using a third-party company to do it
and then get them the results and do it that way um that's the only way i can see it happen so how would they be able to track each
person or each company that's using a third party company i don't i don't know um maybe they won't
be able to update the the scores every single day they would have to update them like once a week
uh i think wall chain or yaps or kaido whatever actually just went to
that so there's got to be some way even if they're going to a studio method there's got to be some
way for them to verify the creators are actually making the content even with you bad brother with
creator flow how are you verifying that the creators are going to be making the content
that they are then working with these brands
is that something that you do or right well i have a whole deliverable system right so
it's basically um once you you can set the deliverables let's say twitter post youtube
whatever your social media is um once those are created then um a deal is created and also also
um uh the user has like a calendar and a whole deliverable dashboard to where
they can do a dropdown, upload whatever the requirements are for the deliverable, and
then the company can come in and check those or whatever.
Eventually, one day, I would like to get to using the Twitter API or something like that,
right?
And doing some of that stuff automatically.
But right now, it's set up.
So what do you call?
Yeah, people upload
manually the the link to their tweet the company can see it right on the site through embeddings
or whatever and then approve it and then you know it's good um so yeah that's kind of like the setup
we have right now okay all right and i have all you know what do you call once you have those
deliverables and stuff you can set up a calendar subscription um so it appears on your calendar
and stuff so you never miss a deliverable and also uh it'll email you a daily digest and a
weekly digest if you want to set that up to say hey these are the deliverables you have this week
these are the ones you have today uh that way you never miss anything yeah and that's good because
i have like been a day off or like a day or two off on some deliverables at times and i'm like
fuck and now i gotta jam like two things like within a day's time off on some deliverables at times and i'm like fuck and now i gotta jam
like two things like within a day's time of each other so it looks kind of retarded um so yeah
that's that's pretty good um i do like that uh the when you're on here though uh you said referral
links are already set up right for this so the the back end to refer a company is not set up yet.
I'm doing that right now.
They should be pushed out in about an hour.
But to refer users.
But yeah, right now it's just to refer users.
And then you earn points.
I don't have a token.
I don't have any plans to do a token yet.
But if I were to do a token, you know, that would count to that.
So that's kind of how I set it up.
I just set that up.
So it's always tracking anything if you want to refer people.
But now you'll be able to earn money through referring businesses and stuff right so
yeah yeah okay well good yeah i'm gonna keep digging into this uh today because like i said
i don't i don't have much going on uh for the remainder of the day oh yeah three three available
packages two creators uh average price 283.
I mean, bro, you stack some of these things up.
That's pretty good when brands are starting to come in.
So I do like it.
Yeah, there's just still just Kyle.
You're right.
Just constant tweets of motherfuckers.
Yeah, grave dancing.
It'd be one thing if it was like an interesting or funny like say
something funny because everybody's going to be pointing out the same thing say something funny
about it don't just i don't know it's the same bullshit and i don't know i yeah nothing like i
don't know i i've seen people like i'm literally watching people that are advisors for one platform dunk on the other platform being dead right now.
Yeah.
It's like, how...
How shitty is that?
Yeah, dude.
Like, come on, man.
Like, what are you fucking...
I don't know.
Even Kenny's dunking on me on the back channels.
He said, InfoFi is about to die at Jesus.
You're fucked.
Like, really, bro?
Like, I'm supposed to be your boy.
I'm all for dunking on your friends. Well, really, bro? Like, I'm supposed to be your boy. I'm all for don't get on your friends.
Well, come on.
Can I not fucking...
Fuck you and the Houston Texans.
Yo, fuck you, bitch.
How about that?
Houston Texans catching your strays, dude.
Yeah, fuck the Houston Texans.
You know what?
None of these other platforms are going to have.
They don't have the creator gator, right?
The creator gator is here, baby.
He has AI on the site. you can ask him questions or whatever and the gator is here to help yeah you hear if
you really want to like blow them out of the water introduce smart followers on creator gator
let's go oh let me ask you this cheese what do you think about like the drip thing that uh is
in all the discords because that's kind of like if i go to the bearish
discord right now there's like a you know quests i'll go you know i gotta go click on the tweet
hit the like put a comment like that's kind of the same thing right yeah and that that to my
knowledge is in like 50 000 plus discords so like that's a massive revenue source that these guys have and i think the
biggest package is like two hundred dollars a month so you got to think if all these people have
activation set up through their drip yeah and i know that they uh i know that they
are using drip and scrape because they are scraping API from X.
Yeah, that could affect them as well.
But they're not an InfoFi platform.
And Scotty just said right here, he was replying to somebody and he said,
they sent out these cease and desist letters, I guess, on December 3rd.
X did to whatever accounts scotty said yeah this is somewhat true
but it wasn't framed in a way that they were going to kill access to the data so i guess
maybe scotty and them in zeat and al-qaeda all these people did get this these cease and desist
letters you know a month ago and that's why kaido it already planned on
this fucking studio jesus so yeah he's in discord right now scotty is and he's saying that it's
just forcing him to pivot into the marketing play that it was designed to be anyways just much
faster um the plan was to already just allow creators on Yeet anyways that have earned their title.
And so I think that's just going to be the pivot
is he's going to have to kick off everybody else off the platform
and only the creators will then participate in that sense
and be able to make money from it.
Dan, so you're saying I got to fondle Scotty's berries
for a checkmark now?
So the certified, so So the certified creators?
Correct.
That's what he just mentioned in Discord, yeah.
All right.
So I'm looking at it right here.
Somebody said, could reduce difficulty by narrowing it down to only approved creators.
At the start, they drive 90% of the results for the campaign anyways.
Then if you have 500 posts per day to check from the verified creators,
it shouldn't be too difficult to hire cheap labor to manually fill out info.
Scotty replied, said, that's correct.
We were already going to do that.
That's actually been the plan from the beginning,
but we played the InfoFi game as we needed.
Then he said, yeah, results-driven driven uh marketing i mean that was always our
goal lol now it's sped up by months this was what we were building for 26 this is we are losing a
critical revenue stream that let us scale quickly and bootstrap well that explains why the site's
under maintenance then they didn't just take it down as a reaction to the news. They are just going ahead and making adjustments to the site with the plan that they already had.
So that's cool.
That's good to know that they already had a plan.
They're just being their hands being forced to move along with that plan sooner than later.
Yeah, he said, we were not late, LOL.
We were changing the way InfoFi was, not doing what InfoFi is.
Outside of making revenue off our campaigns to be bootstrapped.
To quote a once great potential president of the United States,
they are going to be what could be unburdened by what has been.
Yeah.
So it sounds like now they just got to go raise some fucking money
uh to continue doing what they were doing that's what it sounds like
all right well that's what it sounds like um all right well it's fucking 12 20 yeah all we did
was talk about info five that was it kp this was the day you could have taken off dude we didn't even do a market report i know this motherfucker's walking around in his
boxers still anyways so uh yeah anyways uh irish we'll get to you real quick and then we're gonna
shut it down yeah i was gonna mention about scotty and zeet and uh you know it's unfortunate that
obviously they got lumped in with everybody because they were actually trying to get rid of the bots and all the slop that was going along with it.
So I was just going to pose the question, like if they can get back online and get reapproved through Twitter again or X, like I think that would be, you know, considering what they were doing for the space, you know, they weren't trying to allow all that stuff to go through.
If they were
to get back on and back up and running again i think that'd be pretty huge for them well i know
they have they gotta have a pretty good set of contacts at x by now because i mean all their
accounts were getting suspended via i don't know maybe maybe some malicious attacks from some other
platforms that didn't like the fact that seat was coming around i don't know but anyway i mean they definitely just got done talking to a lot of people at x
to get all their accounts back so i don't know maybe they still have the connect to
you know have a have some some productive conversations there i don't know man what
is that at the end of the day you're about to have hundreds of companies trying to prove that
they weren't info fi and x is not going to sit there and listen to that bullshit at the end of the day.
They're too big.
Is there hundreds of companies?
I'm sure that's the five we know of.
I'm sure there's other InfoFi brands out there
or something just like it
with other things outside of crypto Twitter.
You know what I'm saying?
There's other marketing shit like this out there.
It's just a matter of what, I mean,
it's like, I guess, wouldn't you consider Whoop
like a InfoFi platform?
I mean, and that's fucking massive.
And it's people just fucking clipping
or making video content.
So, yeah, I don't know.
We'll see where it goes. make sure you get signed up for
creator flow also make some fucking videos for the ten thousand dollars uh that toshi bet is
giving away uh which is going to be fucking massive we should just go back and clip our
whole argument with fucking saul the other day and just go ahead and win that competition right
oh yeah yeah yeah clip it we'll split it and then uh just have
some guy standing there mouthing like you saw um yeah it'll be pretty good all right cool uh
we will be back tomorrow and it's tomorrow friday right yes tomorrow is indeed friday yeah cool
all right well everybody take day off you have nothing to post about. So yeah, fucking X is now shut down. Uh, but yeah, we'll, uh, we'll see you guys tomorrow.
Peace out. Bye everybody.
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Kaito's announcement of launching Kaito Studios as a service for influencers marks a new project aimed at reshaping how creators engage with brands, indicating a proactive approach to the evolving market.
and they said that they are launching Kaito Studios.
And they put in that they become an S-Pro service for influencers,
where they will give the best one the possibility to share content.
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The discussion highlights the significant changes in the crypto landscape, particularly the impact of X's new policies on InfoFi platforms, indicating a shift in how creators and brands will interact moving forward.
Let me get everybody on stage.
It's hitting the fan today on X.
Oh, my goodness gracious.
The mention of Kaito Studios launching as a service for influencers suggests a strategic pivot towards a more traditional marketing model, indicating a partnership-like approach with creators.
to talk about all this that's going on.
Here comes the biggest futter of info fi uh wheels
on the bus goes round and round round and round round and round
The announcement of X's decision to revoke API access from apps that reward users for posting on X signals a decline in the InfoFi model, which has been a significant revenue source for many creators.
We are revising our developer API policies.
We will no longer allow apps that reward users for posting on X, AKA InfoFi.
This has led to a tremendous amount of AI slop and reply spam on the platform.
The conversation reflects a growing sentiment among creators to adapt and innovate in response to the changing landscape, suggesting a potential for new opportunities in the crypto space.
That's what's coming back.
That's what's coming back. Exactly.
Aurelius.
