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Right, Kyle? The fuck did I just just listen to i'm so confused right now i don't i don't even know bro i was just having fun it was either that
or michael buble so it was like um you know i was like well fuck it let's add the one song i heard
last night was even better uh but i couldn't find it and um i just heard it like
on a tiktok but it was uh it was pretty good fucking abstract i cannot get this stream to
go fucking live um their shit is all stream yard does not like abstract so yeah pretty uh pretty
wild but yeah uh anyways everyone welcome, welcome in. Welcome in.
GM, please repost the room.
Let me get Kenny up here because I forgot this guy does not request.
So please repost the room.
Drop any comments, questions that you might have.
We have Camel here is going to be talking with us about on-site.
about on-site and I am pretty pumped about this because the guys went MIA on us for quite a long
time and I'm glad to have him back in and ready to explore what is going on over here. I do have
a lot of questions about it and yeah we're gonna get get fired fired up before camel has his 12 o'clock meeting anyways but uh
kenny powers gm gm sir what's up yo yo what up gm gm how we doing this morning we're doing good
good good well i'm glad you're glad you're here uh yeah tell your brother to go get the fucking work. Quit talking over us in the show.
We ain't got time for this shit.
Yeah, but anyways, Kyle, you're good.
We've been talking all morning.
Tired of hearing your voice, actually, but we got another hour of it.
So hour and a half at least.
Alex, how are we doing this morning?
Yeah, it's Christmas. Happy holidays,
everybody. Yeah, I'm good.
Same to you, sir. Thank you, sir.
Yeah, nice. Oh, you sound like Jatoshi.
He always says he's coding, but he's never producing anything.
Abstract. Me all by myself by myself because camel's not good
enough to come on stream and actually show some of the poly site stuff uh but it's all good uh
we're gonna get at it anyways uh camel gm sir welcome back it's been a while it's been a while
i'm glad to be back my grand return yeah this guy's been working or. I'm glad to be back. My grand return. You would think this guy's been working
or something. That's why he hasn't come by here.
You would think something like that was going on.
when am I going to get to play the fucking
That is a wonderful and beautiful question.
We dropped some alpha in our whale holders chat last week.
We're doing basically the issue is not on our end.
We have a launch partner that is effectively kind of blocking us from any
release until something gets resolved there.
So on our end, we're chilling.
We have multiple things already.
So we have a bunch of shit there ready to go and roll out.
So we're unblocked from that launch partner.
A little annoying, but what can you do?
But on the same time, like we've been cooking on a bunch of other shit.
Like we've got a bunch of like free sales stuff free stuff
got some cool integrations coming up in the new year uh with sugar town so a bunch of different
stuff is cooking over there dope hey real quick again before we go to on site tell me a little
bit about solstice and how you guys ended up getting the uh pre-sale uh availability for
your community yeah um honestly i'm not the person to be talking to about stablecoin farming because i
just see high apr and i'm like i'm gonna put my money here but i've known uh ryan over at soul
steps for like years he worked at the solana foundation before he's a great fucking guy and
i've enjoyed solstice because it's made stablecoin yield farming easy. Like I didn't understand it really before,
if we do a gamified experience with Flares,
then you're going to learn it.
And my smooth brain did learn it
because I wanted to earn a bunch of Flares.
And right now, I think the presale started yesterday,
And so our community got priority access to it.
So yeah, nice little cooker,
nice little thing that I'm happy to get through and add value to the community in a bunch of different ways that aren't just, you know, traditional building stuff out.
Whether like you guys are actually building other stuff, doing other things in the background, at least you are popping some things out for the community to get activated in.
Obviously, you would not throw out.
You, Sugar Town, Tommy, nobody can predict the future and see what Solstice is going to do.
But you have enough trust in the team to where you're going to present that to the community.
Exactly. I mean, a lot of people asked for it um a lot of people have been farming it for quite some time so you
know made sense yeah yeah um you know if i wasn't such a broke bitch i would buy you a whole uh
podcast like streaming setup so you had a better microphone um because your your mic does sound like shit
i mean it doesn't you don't need a lot of did i literally use my macbook and my iphone
no i know but i like camels on a lot of strings and a lot of stuff yeah it does it does and then
it sounds like camel keeps coming up for air in that fishbowl uh but either way it's still great
to hear your soothing voice camel um you know yeah but it's
all right we're gonna get that allocated we're gonna get money allocated to you for that uh for
upgrade mode um but anyways let's get on to on-site in prediction markets and uh everything
going on around them because we're like prediction markets have just totally taken the space like over i think those
last like eight months wouldn't you think camel i would say seven eight months like prediction
markets have been dominated since ever since the election honestly you've seen a lot of growth in
prediction markets and then over the summer they kind of had that resurgence and what's interesting
to me is if you compare prediction markets growth since
probably august when we saw like extremely exponential growth billions of dollars being
thrown to these things to legacy media stocks like you know like let's think your fox news
your cnn your disney their growth is actually correlated. And that's because for the first time in a really long time,
that younger generation gives a shit about the news
because they have skin in the game when it comes to it.
So it's really interesting to watch.
Well, my thing is, everybody has that one friend
that has to be right about everything.
And it's like, for me, there's a lot of people love to be right.
And they love to feel like their opinion or their voice has some type of meaning.
And it's like prediction markets give, you know, the egotistical a way to even, you you know i guess a way to shine if they are actually
right so like everyone just loves ultimate i told you so exactly yeah especially off that opinion
you know and it's um yeah it's it's it's really really really uh it's just you know it's gonna
keep getting bigger and bigger i know i've seen posts where people are like oh info fi is gonna die and attention is gonna go away from prediction markets
and i just man i strongly disagree i mean everything i don't think i think we're just
seeing the beginning of prediction markets um i mean i think we're just still so early
yeah 100 yeah i mean when my like by our rail friends i've met like through college and stuff I mean, I agree. I think we're just still so early. Yeah, 100%.
viral friends I've met, like, through content stuff,
are texting me about prediction markets
who's never given a shit about crypto,
like, that's when you know that you're
special here, because you do have
interest, casual consumer level
interest in these products products because everybody thinks they
have an edge whether it be on sports whether it be on some type of props or whether it be on the
most random fucking markets like i am a true believer that everybody's an expert at something
like emails for you know sports props versus and like reality tv markets versus you know random bullshit ones like
the ones i'm an expert on i'm thousands of percent in the positive you know yeah 100 it's all a
gamble um i don't know whoever in here didn't go watch the polymarket uh interview on 60 minutes
it was really good and the one guy that like their most successful
trader was on there talking and he's like with a little bit of research like you can you can
succeed uh pretty well in you know prediction markets and when he made the like 300k on jd
vance he like jd vance was at like two percent and he went back and read an article where donald
trump and i've talked about this before where where donald trump only picked mike pence because
his last name was one syllable and he wanted a vice president where his last name was one syllable
so at the time he went down the whole list on polymarket who trump would pick in vance was the only person
that was a one syllable last name so he's like you know what fuck it yeah so he's like you know
what i'm gonna take what donald trump said i'm gonna put some money on jd vance he fucking aped
in at two percent and then boom ended up ended up cleaning house um i think he said he made like 250
300 000 so you know people that are intimidated by prediction markets i would say don't be try
and get on uh and you know just put a little bit of money over there and give it a try you know
but but don't do something that you're not interested in don't just do it because you
There's so many markets out there.
No matter what platform you use,
there's so many markets out there that there's something for everyone.
And if they're not there yet, they're going to be coming.
And what's interesting is I think a lot of people trade prediction markets
And I've adjusted my strategy in the last week or so.
It's been way more profitable for me, which is people are trading prediction markets like you would on your regular sports betting.
It's like, oh, I'm going to hammer Tennessee losing just every single time.
That's just something that most normal people would do is hammer Tennessee losing.
But even today, so like today there's a market.
It's Elon Musk number of tweets December 16th to December 23rd, right?
That market, the odds were the line is at 339 is one bracket and the next one is 340. This morning at about 10 a.m., he had 339 tweets, right?
And you're getting closer to noon when the market resolves and you see the growth and
the predictions of people thinking, oh, he's not going to tweet because he posted last
So this market's going to be off at 339.
I buy this market at 20%.
Because if he posts again, I'm cooked.
I'm going to take that 2X and run every single time because all you need to do is trade against the sentiment of the timeline.
People are trading for resolutions.
They're not trading for these kind
of like scouts yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah no i mean that and that's a good play i mean and who
would you don't know this dude could wake up in the middle morning take a piss and then boom there's
your you're screwed he tweeted nine minutes ago i cashed out 15 minutes ago yeah so i would have
been screwed and so like people are kind of
that's where a lot of like meme coin traders and like regular crypto traders kind of
miss the opportunity in prediction markets like yeah it's easy to bet on sports and you can be
like oh this is my favorite team the other team's garbage but when you're doing this level of swing
trading that's where that real opportunity is
because if you think about where polymarket is growing and like the kind of markets they're
attracting it's like your regular fucking frat bro and shit like that and let me tell you we can
dog walk those people when it comes to trading absolutely dog walk yeah but most people that
even though they say oh don't buy a coin unless it has an x and this and that they literally just
go off of their whatever their trading bot is if they see a twitter and they see a deck screener
boom they buy the coin they don't do no research it takes a little bit of of um you know it does
take a little bit of dyor art when you are doing prediction markets
um and i think if you're really in in like in in the trenches of prediction markets you got to know
what the fuck's going on um you know especially on the ones you're predicting and if you don't
you just go in there willy-nilly because you see one at like the highest thing at 30 percent like right now jd vance is set uh 31
to win the uh the election for the next day but like we don't know what the fuck's gonna happen
you know that's the obvious choice but if you do some research on some of these other people
you know there could be that that moment that the all the other dude had you know
at two percent it could be a um could be a moment to load up uh somebody really small i mean they
got lebron james on here at one percent get out of here bro kim kardashian one percent fucking
uh fuck they might as well put me on steven a smith No, no, no. Well, I think the best opportunity lies in markets with volatile activity
or ones that have either just been created
or ones that are closing in the next few hours to days
because that's when you're going to see the most activity and the most swings.
So if you kind of go back to the Elon tweet thing,
an hour and a half before the market's going to close you're not going to see that level of
activity on the first day it's posted yeah yeah i'm looking right now i mean it's it's still pretty
flat all the way across you're talking about the one from the 26th through the second right
um no i was talking about the the one that's resolving in like
40 minutes oh okay all right well the newest one just popped up uh it's 26 through the 22nd yeah
or the like another interesting one is like nfl mvp if we're gonna go to sports like that's gonna
be very volatile right now because you have the drake may stands uh who i am a stand of um
really kind of pumping that market then you had
josh allen completely fall off because he's garbage and you have matthew stafford who i
don't even know how he's in the mvp conversation what do you mean bro he's doing good what are
you talking good not doing great like drake may yeah i mean drake may is having a good season uh
Matthew Stafford's got, I think, a lot of attention.
Drake May is at 23% right now.
We know he is the second choice, right?
It is very reasonable to think that's going to go to 50%.
And that's your opportunity.
You don't need to wait for it to resolve.
All right, so here's my question. If you think Drake May is
Because Mike Vrabel's at 36%.
I mean, I think coaches and MVPs
is a completely different story
because there's more levels and layers
you're not trading. If you're But once again, you're not trading.
If you're a good trader, you're not trading for outcomes.
You're trading against everybody else.
That's what people are missing is right now,
Everybody that's on this panel can agree
that that's probably underpriced,
and we see that go to 50%.
But when do these resolve, right?
Before the Pro Bowl, right?
Oh, they resolve on February 18th.
Yeah, it usually happens in the Super Bowl.
Oh, after the Super Bowl?
I thought it was done in between because they already knew you see to camel's point you go look at the schedule
they've got baltimore and then they finish the season against the jets he's probably going to
have a monster game because they're still going to be jockeying for number one overall afc positioning
with denver so like if he ends the season with a 300 yard three touchdown game his odds are going
to go up and that's most likely going to be the scenario.
Yeah, and that's where you sell
because you never know what's going to happen.
I don't know if you guys remember the time personally
that had some crazy swings.
You never wait for the resolution.
That is the real good trading strategy in prediction markets.
You just take your 2x you take
your 3x and you run like a 2 to 10 pump that's a 5x you have 5x your money you don't need to be
right you just need to make your money you just need to be in early enough yeah um on on the
market so all right so i want to get to it because originally on site launched as
poly site and i even said it on from bringing people up no i've been able to bring anybody
up so far today no no no but it's a good thing we don't need nobody up here trying to get a
conversation in um so uh originally on site launched as poly site when that when that launch
why would they limit themselves to just poly market?
you know what I'm saying?
that just keeps it as like,
even though you guys will end up bringing in other,
the rebrand to on-site that fast was
really good. So I applaud
you guys for doing that, whatever
the reasoning was. I'm hoping it was
around what I was thinking, but
I mean, it was. I'm going to be completely honest with you.
I'm not sitting here trying to hide
information. It's not one of those things.
We want to be a global brand
and no shade to Polymarket at all. information it's not one of those things like yeah we want to be a global brand and when i like
no shade to polymarket at all at all like i literally no shade to them but like as we kind
of grow as a company we don't want to i think anchored is the wrong term but like we want to
grow independently in terms of our branding yeah um so on so on site itself is this a product of d20
or is this its own entity what what on site is made by a couple of the folks um at d20 um so
we have like our dedicated product team and stuff like that but it's not our game team
on site so I like to keep
keep church and state separate
I keep it for all intents and purposes
God damn it Campbell this is a God fearing
Christian nation and you'll abide by my religious beliefs
i'm sorry carl please continue i'm sorry very yeah no i keep the two very very separate um i
think it's really important so one doesn't like dilute the other because they're very
different products like yeah we
said it in discord before like the success of one product will be good for both products but
in terms of community in terms of growth in terms of work that goes into it like they are very very
separate and distinct entities yeah um so here's my question it's like so on site why would i use on site when i can just
use a vpn and go on polymarket or go on any of the other platforms like what is the benefit of
me using on site do you have a vpn on your phone uh i do but i very seldom use it like okay well
there's your first one being vpn with phones
a pain in that yeah it is and typically vpns are paid on site you can use from anywhere and trade
on any market on polymarket like that's a big plus right there and i think what i find myself
i use all the prediction market products like i'm not only trading on on site maybe that's wrong of
me but like I'm trading everything
because I'm very into prediction markets
and I need to be very into prediction markets.
I find what I like most about Onsite
and the problem that it solves for me
is when I'm at the fucking grocery store
and I'm going to be like,
I need to buy Drake May right now.
One of my buddies just texted me.
I'm hammering it right there,
at the grocery store or whatever kind of casual situation i think polymarket calci all their
user interfaces they're great i love them but they're a bit complicated when you know exactly
what you want to do you know you just said the keyword casual i know kenny powers likes that kind of relationship ain't there right kenny powers
yes um okay so as of right now the only prediction market integrated in with on-site is polymarket correct that is correct right now today okay like we are talking to all of them like we have really
great relationships with everybody so do you have to is there is there stuff not like open source where you can build right on top of it or do
you have to get is there is it like permission uh we have to get api keys and then like badges
from everybody so like even when we get the api keys and get into it like there is like a level
of building because the way like the wallets are handled and everything like that and then how the bot works with each market that can keep it consolidated into one very seamless experience isn't like as simple as like copy and paste some keys in there.
Like there is a decent amount of work to keep the user experience seamless and make sure everything's cultured and the bot actually works.
list and make sure everything's cultured the bot actually works okay so now are you guys you guys
are not doing any liquidity provision you're just pulling the api of their markets into your app
exactly into on-site so there's no liquidity issues from on-site if there's a liquidity issue
it's on the poly market or calci whatever whatever ends up being in the future that that's where it
would be at um exactly okay all right and then you guys just have a um you know i i would assume
a normal very competitive fee uh that you know uh people can you know that they have to pay
uh per transaction every time they use it for any predictions i yep exactly i've got a question
is there any plan to take this outside of tg and build like a trading terminal for it um you know
man i just come up here and i'm like oh i'm not gonna keep anything secret but like by the
way i'm answering this question i'm sure you can read into what i'm saying
um we are exploring growth in a lot of different ways.
Right now, Telegram growth has been good because there's like so many different alpha groups
and everything like that.
There are already existing trading terminals for Polymarket.
One thing we don't want to do is reinvent the wheel.
That being said, as we continue to grow as a company and get market share, we're exploring a lot of different avenues
to continue making that trading experience as seamless as possible. Because like, I'll be
honest, like one thing, like, I'm going to say a flaw, but one thing our product is not great for
is like very high frequency volume traders. Like if you're trading the Bitcoin 15 minute up or down
market, you're not going to have a nice time on our
product and that's because we don't have the bitcoin chart actively integrated into telegram
like that would never work so that user right now will not convert into our product i've talked to
those users they've told me that i've talked to a lot of them and it's completely understandable
yeah because those users because i think uh was it was it polymarket or was it robin hood that announced five minute markets coming i think
it was polymarket uh i think it was on market too right now the show staff is 15 okay yeah yeah and
those are those are pretty fun i played them on uh myriad markets on their bnb side they do
the uh bnb five minute markets markets over there. And it is pretty
exciting, but I could see where you'd want to be able to see the charts, see what's going on,
and not have to flip back and forth and do that. Kenny, I mean, that is a good point,
having a trading terminal. But then at that point, I think you're kind of going away from what on-site offers,
which is, you know, on-the-go, mobile predictions.
You can build that trading terminal into an app, though, too.
I'm just going to give, just real quick, I would just say, like, I am a little allergic to Telegram, personally.
The app gives me the heebie-jeebies.
So, yeah, I mean, like, a trading terminal would be lit for me well that's just one personal opinion and to
that point though like as far as like just trading terminals in general like when i first started
trading meme coins yes i was using like bonk five things like. But it's evolved so much now, you know,
with like the axioms and the loots of the world
where you have so much more information
and it's a lot easier to trade on.
And you can look at charts
while you're getting ready to buy things.
Like I just, for me personally,
I find it easier on a trading terminal.
I feel like, I don't know.
And that's me just being, you know, the average user.
But to that point, like On The Go, things like that, yes, Telegram works well.
What I've also noticed is like in the users we're acquiring, the vast majority of them are like kind of our casual sports bettors, which is a really huge market.
Obviously, like if you're doing a high volume chart, like I've literally told you this five minutes ago, like we are not there quite yet.
And I think most telegram products for memes or anything like that aren't there as well.
But for your casual traders, which is probably over 90% of them, this is perfect for them because they can do it anyway.
If you're in these Telegram groups with your friends or you're in the alpha groups, it can integrate directly in.
And so you have this very easy user experience that you don't get anywhere else.
Yeah, no, that's a real good point alex you got a question
uh yeah a bit about um i'm just interested about this whole polymarket i i've got a friend who's
who's developing a a sniper uh thing for for polymarket so when it hits 90 it just goes in
and pies and stuff uh which sounds cool but it's interesting that you're doing like almost like swing the swing trade and it's like a bot on telegram is that
yeah so i was talking about strategy for users our bot is just for trading we're adding more
and more features we have a copy trade feature that's already live and we're going to add more
of it we always have like the reps and the points farming and all those great things. I was just kind of giving advice for those that may not know
and those that are kind of wary of trading prediction markets
what best practices are for being a profitable trader.
No, go ahead, Alex. Go ahead.
No, I usually look when they're just about to finish and
and like uh go against the odds when i know that everybody's being stupid so uh yeah that's how i
do it but uh i mean camel you should have a chat i'll i'll tag him to you and you should have a
chat with this guy who's building the sniper thing man you could compare notes yeah yeah i would really
really appreciate that um camel so i'm looking at the copy trading right now franklin obviously
580 fucking trades um the guy's a madman um but it is there gonna be a because like yeah okay well
i can go copy trade franklin but i don't know his pnl like are you
guys gonna advertise the the traders pnl um i wouldn't necessarily think about advertising
pnl as much in the way we grow the copy trade feature i think the next two best things are
insider waltz like quote-unquote insider
wallets we've seen a lot of those like you have the draft kings one you have the black rock
insider you have all these level of insiders adding those wallets and then also adding
wallets for anybody to check like you know copy paste a wallet address get notified whenever they make a trade, I think those are the two best, um, next features for it,
because that's what people want. Like more than anything from my experience, at least.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you just, you know, it's always good to even some type of like hit
rate or, uh, success rate, something like that. Um, you know what I mean? Um,
so I just, you know, just to, to encourage more people to look into those, uh, you know, those,
those traders themselves, uh, because like, yeah, while Franklin has done 580 plus markets like how you know how do we know like is it a good person to follow so
that's i didn't know if there was some type of scoring or something that you guys were coming
out with uh you rugged how you rugged yeah so i just didn't know if there was some type of future
scoring um or something like that you know what
i mean yeah yeah um no that's something that we've talked about um in order to like kind of
incentivize people a bit more so like that's definitely something we're exploring as well
like one thing of note uh house is literally yelling at me in slack house, he's doing great with the social media management over there, is kind of, we don't automate your copy trading because I find a lot of people lose their
munch when they have automated copy trading.
Instead, you get a notification you can copy or counter trade.
And so like, for example, like let's say Campbell's P&L is like minus 90%.
I'm going to turn on my notifications for
that fucking guy and just trade the opposite of whatever he's doing you know yeah yeah um yeah
no that's true because yeah i mean i'm looking at you and you are uh where are you at you're
number four here and you have 30 uh let me go look at the um yeah you have 34 trades oh you just made a trade what'd you just
make a trade on because it did say 33 long's posted like four or five times so i wonder if
he's watching the market for his number of tweets and he's trying to get up to that point because
if he gets to 360 then the market resolves to a different outcome and it was at like two cents
okay all right um all right so what are we earning when we are using on site like are we
earning xp are we earning points yeah what are we earning inside of so there's a couple different
things if you're part of the copy trade program you get a fee share for everybody that copy trades you.
And then right now for referrals and for trading,
you're getting points inside of this ecosystem.
So like I have 15,000 points, for example,
points grow from referrals and they grow based off of volume.
We're also working on some more loyalty programs
for users that are referring,
that are using the products
and they are being what we consider a good user.
not asking anybody to be exclusive by any means,
but instead just people that are actually using
and enjoying the product.
We want to find more and more ways to constantly reward them. Because without them,
the product doesn't exist. Yeah. Yeah. Well, again, it doesn't move anywhere.
So right now, referrals are now live. Head to on-site, copy your referral link and send it to
anyone. Every referral you make, uh, every referral
you make, you earn onsite points based on their activity and their referrals. So the image I'm
sharing on the stream right now, uh, you, once you get your invites, you have 20% of their, uh,
points. And then the next tier down, which is people they would invite, you get 10%
bonus points as far as that goes as well. So, I mean, yeah, you can really stack up a lot of
points if you have, you know, a decent amount of friends or communities that are now,
you know, that are now, you know, in prediction markets.
And I, you know, I still think being early is really good.
And I think we're very early in prediction markets.
So being early on on site, knowing how to navigate,
knowing how to teach people how to use it and answer those questions
is pretty important, you know, as far as
real quick and then, or let's get to
Mr. House first and then I'll ask my question.
House, what up? Oh, well, can I say something
Of course. Yeah, no, Camel, I think
this supersedes you because
slash reward you can get of using onsite.
Not only can you get points, you can also earn camel and I's undying love and friendship,
perhaps some digital handshakes and heart emojis. I like to think I'm a pretty fun person to be
friends with. If you use the product, I will be your friend uh whether you have negative or
positive feedback i'll be your friend i'll text you back we could hop on some calls play video
games together bro like his fourth sentence in about this was shitting on the tennessee vols
like i mean hey i'll tell you what camel might be bad be bad cop. If you're a Tennessee Vols fan and Camel's shitting on him,
you can be like, house, Camel's hurting my feelings.
He's shitting on the Vols.
I'll come to you and I'll sing Rocky Top with you.
I mean, I might not actually physically come to you,
but we could hop on a FaceTime and sing Rocky Top
All right, let's fucking do it.
I can't dog you for talking shit about Tennessee,
especially considering they beat my U of H Cougs in basketball surprisingly
Not going to happen again.
We did knock them out of the Sweet 16 last year.
Because obviously there's hundreds of prediction markets on Pauly market.
How exactly does it work in the terminal?
Like, do you put, how would I?
So there's a couple different ways.
I did want to touch on one thing first before I answer your question,
which is anyone that makes an account on onsite has an account
affiliated with Polymarket instantly created for them,
regardless of where they live in the world so you saw the
news yesterday that polymarkets focused on building their own l2 out a lot of users haven't been able
to get volume on play market based off of where they live or any number of reasons with on-site
you're able to get the on-site points but you're also able to get that activity directly associated
with a polymarket account so like that is a massive massive plus for users now to answer your question about how you find
the market says a few different ways are you in the bar right now probably not i i'm not probably
not bro it is i'm gonna go ahead and tell you it is super easy super smooth i would share it but i
can't collapse the rest of my messaging on telegram so i'm not gonna
yeah so what you do is you start the bot you go to markets there's multiple different categories
like you can start by categories like sports text politics finance whatever the fuck you can look at
new ones you can look at top volume ones and you can also search for whatever market you want so
like let's say i want to look at how Tennessee's doing in the college
I type in Tennessee football, and there would be zero results because they're
actually not even in the playoffs.
So then I would go and search a good football program like Georgia, and I would
absolutely fucking hammer them to win the national championship.
Yeah, no, that's sweet. Yeah that that that was what i was wondering about
because i know the amount the abundant amount of prediction markets on polymarket so you can
categorize by top volume by trending subjects stuff like that that's sweet that's sweet sounds
good yeah it's it's pretty simply set up.
When you hit menu, you hit start, Kenny.
It has markets, portfolio, community.
So it gives you all the major links to get where you need to go.
Your invites are right there.
Wallets and then your copy trade section.
Then from there, you can go in and just start fucking searching in markets. It's all categorized.
If you know exactly what you're looking for, you can search it.
So, yeah, it's pretty good.
It's separated by trending, new, volume, all kinds of stuff.
If you can bet on Travis Kelsey making the Pro Bowl, go ahead and do it.
He's currently, I mean, dude, it's just so ridiculous how he's leading it. Why don't you fund your wallet on onsite and you bet on Travis Costa making it the Pro Bowl?
I mean, mostly I've been any prediction markets I do has been on Marriott just because I am farming over there.
But it's a limited amount of prediction markets.
It's obviously a much smaller market in opposed to the you know the uh goliath and
polymarket so polymarket and calcio yeah i'm surprised you guys haven't like and i don't
know about building anything so i figured um myriad would be a little bit easier since there's
not as many markets um we have a chat with them and i'll leave it back yeah but i but i'm not sure like how you would integrate it with because obviously you're not
going to have to scrape over the points because they have points markets and usdc markets so you
guys would mainly just be doing the usdc what what what's really interesting and this is where i think it gets real interesting how it has to be um where i think it could get really interesting right so say i have an opinion
on a certain prediction market i want to figure out you know who has the best odds at what i want
to do paulie market or calci like if you could integrate both of them and then give you the
option to be able to you know take better odds, that would be something cool.
There's no one out there doing that where, like, you can pull up the market on different platforms and take the best odds for the way you want to predict.
I think Billy Betts was doing that.
And I think Billy Betts was building that. If I remember, Brad told us that.
What I've noticed is a lot of products, a lot of great products, they stay focused in one lane.
What we're trying to do is add all of the features users want. So like Kenny wants,
are between markets. That comes when we add multiple markets and how the user experience
looks. So that's obviously stuff that we're talking about integrating as we continue to grow as a product, because we do want this to be your go to hub for trading prediction markets, regardless of, you know, if you're a poly market maxi, if you're a calcium maxi, or if you're just a prediction maxi.
Whoever is going to make me the most money that's where i'm going to go so
yeah for for something like that um that would be really cool but um i mean just looking at market
share volume you know um of calci the polymarket clearly polymarket's winning that race so i think
y'all are starting out on the right platform to be honest yeah
i'd agree now hey you had brought up um because i did have this bookmark um and with uh it was
i think it was mustafa that said that i think he said it on the 20th or the 19th where he was talking about polymarket leaving polygon uh which is you know polygon so
dumb by not like doing everything possible to promote polymarket and lift that up and like
ride that wave with them and now they're you know i think they kind of messed up there i don't know
the relationship uh either way polymarket's just getting a little bit too big.
But yeah, he did say they're planning to move off of Polygon,
not leaving Ethereum, but plan to launch their own L2.
So that, you know, do you think we see that in like Q1?
I would say I'm not going to get too super into it,
but I think they would probably want to do it based off of what I've seen
sooner rather than later.
There has been a number of outages recently.
With outages, what happens is you can't trade.
You can't trade, especially on these live markets.
The market resolves before you can close your position and you lose your lunch.
That makes a lot of people pissed off and they lose those users to their competitors.
Nobody wants to lose users.
So I would say they are probably fast tracking that.
And then the other part is they have a significant amount of investors now.
Some of the biggest names in the world they want to maximize revenue um so with that the best way to maximize revenue is hosting
everything yourself i think polygron is great i know a lot of great people over there so
this is just me speculating yeah um one of the other things that happened to you guys you know which was a kick in the dick uh was germany
blocking uh polymarket and then you guys happen to have like i guess that's where you guys were
your servers were based out of right yeah is it germany like a counter trade though at this
point anyway it's like kind of like fuck them dude yeah no it's crazy because like everybody
got fucked by that and it was on thanksgiving so that was that was fun that was a really nice or no it wasn't
on thanksgiving it was last week last week and the weekend before i don't know the days are
blending together but yeah thank you germany for that wonderful exercise in blocking polymarket
when did that happen did it happen like in the middle of the
night or did it happen like 11 p.m it was like at 11 p.m so it was like a whole fire drill
we went down okay bet went down a couple other ones went down uh because you know when your
servers are hosted in germany um to get of nerdy, it's the Polymarket Survey
When you can't do anything on
it, you can't do anything.
When I seen that, I was like, oh my
God. Yeah yeah that sucks because
i mean you guys had just kicked off on zeet as well um you know so it was like right there at
it and it's like jesus christ um so yeah so i mean that's poly market's making big moves
there's a tournament i didn't even notice yeah my brother what the fuck we're in the bro i we
literally talk about zeet every single day we're in the fucking i just i didn't even notice. Yeah. My brother in Christ. What the fuck? Bro, we literally talk about Z every single day.
Where in the fucking U-Bit?
I just didn't notice the PolySite one.
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What's your take on that, Camel?
Do you feel like now that your tournament's
getting near the end for onsite,
do you feel like that was effective
or do you feel like that was maybe less effective
than you hoped it would be?
No, Z did exactly what I wanted ZeeT to do,
which is bring the product from zero to one.
So when you're kind of thinking about growth,
you have zero to one growth,
and then you have one to 100 growth.
And the way you do it are completely different.
When you have zero mindshare, you have zero users,
you need to acquire users really fucking fast.
You need to acquire mindshare really fucking fast.
And so the best way for me to do that was to pay pawns um to get us on z and so that that's what
we did and it brought us to zero to one i have a bunch of users now using the product every day
have people farming the timeline so to go from one to 100 it's a different story um it's a different story. It's a different way of executing. But yeah, it was great. It has been great.
Yeah, so I'm just going to shamelessly plug,
since you guys brought it up,
two days left on the inaugural tournament,
fighting for 0.25% of all on-site points.
So if you're on Z, two days left.
What does that mean, 0.25 what is that
so of all the points that will be distributed through on-site 0.25 are going to the top i
believe 100 on the z leaderboard so just you know that's i'll leave it at that but you can you can
think about points all right so here i
have a question here camel is you as a founder and i know you now uh have a creator dashboard
all right you have a team dashboard there and the number one participant is camel um how do you feel
being number one and taking those zeats from the on-site community?
Do you think the team should have been excluded?
I think the team is part of the community.
I think any company feels the same exact way.
The team should always be a part of the community.
We did, first of all, limit my zeats.
I just post about it so much that I kind of break the zit
algo so sorry Ponce that is what it is
is part of the community and with that
I don't see any issue with me being at the
if you want to be at the top what do you think about that cheese
I disagree because I think the team should have the
loudest voice this is an axe that cheese has been grinding for weeks now camel and you've stumbled
right into his trap no no it's not because all right so listen to me the other day all right i
have been on myriad i have been on myriadets since they were in beta. Before anybody even knew what the fuck Myriad Markets was.
I had been testing it. We
then started creating content around it.
tournament on Z, I'm like, yes.
Well then, so like always
Farouk and Tyler D were always
surpassed them. I passed up Farouk,
fucking killed it. And I'm number
one, number one. But at the same time,
I'm sitting there thinking and I'm looking at all these
other tournaments and I'm like, the whole point
in this is to reward the community
members? Let me stop you because I already disagree with
you. The whole point of a Z tournament
is to put as much motion on the project as possible it has nothing to do with rewarding any specific group of people
it's a marketing tool it's to generate i understand that but but but farroque and them are
gonna and even camel are gonna they're gonna do that regardless because it's their product
so why would you not want your community to have the shot to be able
to get in the top five top three and earn those zeats it seems like yeah you're kind of double
dipping as a as a founder or a team member when you should be trying to lift up the community
to fight for number one or number two or number three or even number 10. Like, to me, it seems like, okay, still reward Kamala Zeitz
because there's an airdrop.
I'm not trying to stop him from that.
But from that particular tournament, I think they should be excluded
because they are a team member.
They're going to have the most mind share,
and they will have the most volume within their posts about their own brand.
Yeah, I mean, look, I don't have a strong opinion
on whether team members should be included or not,
but I think we do both just fundamentally disagree
on what the ZeeT thing is for.
In my mind, not just ZeeT, InfoFi boards, period,
whether it's Kaido, Wallchain, Cookie, ZeeT,
I don't give a fuck which one it is.
It's literally just putting the payment
on the back end of the shill
so the KOLs don't have to disclose payment.
And you want your platform to feel like
it's going to be lucrative to people
who come and participate.
the biggest KOLols who have the most
motion will be attracted to shilling your brand for you whether they're a regular part of the
fucking community or not that's just my opinion on info fi in general and and i get that but
there is uh both a project founder and a kol but at the same time he does dabble but listen to me
though at the same time camel hasel has 1,644 seats.
I would be discouraged from participating in this board
because I would know there's no way I'm going to be able to catch.
If I'm trying to be number one, there's no way I'm going to catch Camel.
Well, the goal of the seat is not to just have people farm the board.
The goal of the seat is to reward existing community members
in a new and unique way that we haven't seen before.
Like, if you're only posting about onsite to farm the board
and you're not using it at all, like, not going to lie.
You're not the user that I necessarily care about.
Well, and I agree with that.
It's also not about being number one.
Like, you want to be number one
on every board that you participate in and i'm like hey man that's great and all but like dude
i'm gonna tweet the fuck out of some blinko shit i'm not gonna be number one i'm not gonna be
number two or three or four or five i don't care no but to camels but i understand the opportunity
still there and the prize pools go well beyond the top three
or the top number one okay but a reason to participate even hold on but you're but you're
the leaderboard yeah but you're contradicting yourself because you put out post every time
you buy a new bear so you can get more engagement so you can run up the leaderboard and those bears
keep adding to your multiplier which will indeed then move you up the leaderboard.
So like, if we could see.
I'm not saying I'm not interested in getting as much as I can out of it.
I'm just saying just because I can't be number one, just because I can't win the game doesn't mean I'm not going to participate.
But I'm not saying that either.
I just think it discourages people from when team members are there and they're getting such attention on the zeep board
i think that i think that stops people from wanting to do it is all if i go into a tournament
and and i see the team members all in the top 10 i'm not going to do it sorry because one yeah i
may use the product but i'm not going to put as much effort into it because um because there's like
what is the point in that the team gets most of the top 10 rewards but i'm getting like table
scraps and it's like you're not really rewarding your community so that's my that's my argument
perfect world zeet becomes incredibly successful they put put the Zeets on chain. There's monetary benefit.
And then major KOLs actually come in and blow the teams away too.
The only reason the teams are at the top of these leaderboards right now is because Zeets are not on chain,
and it has yet to attract the griftiest of grifter KOLs to their platform.
Well, Kaido was never on chain, and it attracted everybody.
But either way, at the end
of the day, some of these tournaments, the team
has excluded themselves. Last weekend
was what I was saying, Camel.
the Myriad thing because somebody on
removed Faroque and myself
because they thought I was a team
member. And I was like freaking
fuck my shit set to zero like what the fuck happened i was and they got it all restored but
then then they added farroque back and it's just like it's so chaotic and i'm like what the fuck
um mr house what's up what's your point and we're gonna move on yeah no definitely this is this has
been an interesting conversation um i think you
know i don't necessarily have a strong opinion on it um other than i guess what i'll say is like
i've been i've been doing some tweeting as has the rest of the team i don't think any of us have fully
gone um you know necessarily as evangelist mode as Camel. But none of us have really gotten
as much traction on the leaderboards as well as Camel. And I think it really comes from like
the power user side where like, as much as it's Camel's job to talk about it, I think he actually
may be one of the number one users. So there's that. And then it's also looking at like, we'll use pawns in specific, right?
He's in the top 100 and then the top five of almost every leaderboard.
I think there's two things to consider, right?
To your point, it's right.
How much do we want to balance weighing or how much do we want to reward the community
that balance versus like, maybe that's something we do take into consideration. But I think it's
also, you know, the way that I look at a lot of the leaderboards is I personally would rather see
a team member at the top, whether they're getting rewards or not, you know, somewhere in that top
five, top 10 area, then look at 20 different leaderboards and see the same 20 names at the top of all of them.
And so I think it's part of the battle with just socialify in general, right? Is like,
how do we improve the systems as a whole? And this will probably be what leads Z, Kaido,
Cookie, et cetera, to become the predominant platform is really finding out right
who are the power users and community members regardless of account size but like who's actually
breaking through with that signal so no i just i really enjoyed this conversation because it's
been something that's been on my mind a lot throughout info 5 yeah yeah no and we could go
deeper into it there's a lot of different stuff. This is an ongoing
disagreement between me and Jesus about
how all this should work. And I
just, I don't know, man. Well, I mean,
if you look at the bearish leaderboard,
Tully and all them excluded themselves
reason. Tully and them are actually the
devs behind the entire fucking platform
too. And to be completely honest, I wouldn't give a fuck at all if Tully and Scotty were at the top
of the Blinko board. I wouldn't care at all. It wouldn't bother me and it wouldn't dissuade me
from participating because I'm a fan of the IP. And by the way, if I wasn't just an NFT
retard like I am and I was a big KOLol it wouldn't dissuade me from wanting to
participate there either because i would still be there to garner the benefit of every single
tournament whether i was going to be number one two 12 or 32nd i'm still going to go up and
participate because i'm here for the benefit of the platform but that's just camel what would be
really dope because you do have a wallet claim here submit wallet camel what would be really dope because you do have a wallet claim
here submit wallet claim what would be really dope is if like today or tomorrow to really shake
up the leaderboard is to add a multiplier for anybody who submitted their wallet you can read
the volume that they've done on your platform then you give a multiplier so the people that could be at like
ninth or tenth place or even 15th place like a lot of these people could be like just you know
bought in their accounts doing whatever something like that for the blanco one too right like yeah
so much honey on the platform you got a certain multiplier i know they can do something like that
but even a dollar in volume it doesn't matter it still shows you use the platform and that would really shake shit up and it's like okay so are you just tweeting about it or you
actually using the product this multiplier is going to go into effect not only are we going
to kick off all the uh people that were you know botting their post doing everything like that but
guess what surprise we're gonna reward the real users
of uh on site and here's your uh here's your 2x on your zits and i mean i would imagine that
wouldn't take much to get their volume right yeah yeah i need to talk to them about that
because that's something that we've talked about and I need to check on.
Yeah, because the tournament ends and it's like, Merry Christmas.
There it is, 12 o'clock, baby.
I do have a call I need to get to.
So thank you guys so much.
If you've not used Onsite yet,
We're working on incorporating feedback
If you have questions, let me know
and I'm happy to come on to talk about it more.
And I really appreciate you guys.
Thanks for coming, Camel.
Fuck this limb card, Kenny.
Did you get the Santa and the bass boat out of your living room yet or no?
Fuck no. Still there, right. I like it. Fucking rocking out. Santa and the bass boat out of your living room yet or no? Is it still there?
Fucking rocking out. Can't get downstairs because you got a big blow up in your house,
but that's good. I like it.
Alright, cool, bro. Yeah, Merry
And we'll catch up again soon.
Kenny, before we wrap all of this up, I mean, we're still going to keep going for a minute.
Howard, how do you think the markets are going to go through these next few days in the holidays?
I mean, I think it's probably going to be fairly low trading volume.
Sometimes we'll get that Christmas pump, right?
But personally, I think it's probably going to be relatively slow, especially, I mean, look, GDP came out this morning, came out better than expected, I think 4.3%, which
means, you know, the country's making more money.
There's more money being spent.
Corporations are making more money.
And yet crypto is pretty flat.
Bitcoin down 1.75% on the day, although it does look like it's reversing a little bit right now.
I think it's probably going to be a Quiet week with the
Holidays here you got New Year's next
Low volume we'll see what happens though
Cheeser good talk this fucking guy
Asked you a question about the market and just walked away
I'm not watching on stream, but I bet his fucking,
I bet there's no one sitting in front of his camera right now.
But, yeah, overall, I feel pretty good about the market.
Obviously, we're just going to have this continuation of a chop
that we've had for the past couple months.
But we'll see how we go into 2026 i'm optimistic i
think it's gonna be a good year for crypto across the board yeah we are definitely low on ct uh
participants today so i would assume that that translates at least in some fashion to the market
as well yeah you got a big big traveling day today i'm sure a lot of people at the airports right now
how far do you have to go to get to your parents house kyle i'm assuming you're gonna go over there
not far uh my parents i live just like on the other side of the mountaintop from where my
parents live but we'll probably actually go over to the next town over we always go to my
grandmother's and hang out for uh for christmas She's got a great big old living room, like joint living room kitchen.
We'll go over there, watch some Christmas movies, you know,
eat some Christmas meal with the family, do the gift thing,
I think we're going to try to get them to watch, is it a Christmas story?
What was the movie with the fucking Red Ryder BB gun and the light?
I haven't seen that in so long, dude.
I'm going to try to get them to watch that one this year.
We always watch all white Christmas as well.
It's like my dad's favorite of all time.
That's very racist of you, Kyle.
Well, not white, not quite, but white.
Take the Tennessee off of it for me.
Keep in mind that we're talking about snow here.
He said he's going to watch A White Christmas.
Christmas Story, Christmas Family Vacation, Elf.
The worst three movies I've ever heard in my life
I was about to compliment your fog and then you came off me with that terrible thing. Yeah, but that is a nice fog you have there, sir
You like the little attachments I added to it beautiful American swag a little gun
You know, it's one in the collection that has this suit and
the mask that no one no one not anyone else that has them it's like a one of
one but my favorite Christmas movie it's a wonderful life it's a beautiful movie
everybody's gonna ride for Die Hard
we don't have one of those people up here
oh my god I forgot about Gremlins
I haven't seen that in years.
I don't even know the premise of it.
I won't give you any spoilers, man, but enjoy.
Did she just leave again?
I mean, trying to see if you guys have guidance here
to keep going without me.
I did have a question about Z.
It's not like the other two where you can buy the token
and stake the token and that will give you the multiplier.
Yeah, there's no tokens yet over here.
There's no cheat code to it.
You've actually got to properly
engage yeah yeah there's nothing yet we're there's creator cards that are coming just like any other
founder they keep saying soon but we don't know when the fuck they're coming creator cards are
going to have some play into the whole thing uh zeets will eventually turn into a coin but that's i i would imagine as kyle says next year probably not
until february maybe march something like that i think it's pretty safe at this point i've only
been saying next year for the last three months but it happens to be december fucking 23rd right
now i think it starts yeah yeah oh look these turned up. Yeah, so you're down there.
Well, I mean, it's only 12. We keep going.
We have other stuff to talk about.
I was listening to you guys' space yesterday, V.
Very well-spoken group, as usual.
I always enjoy hearing the world of women crew speak.
Moonheart, we didn't talk about creeps yet.
We were talking about on-site.
You got a take on Creeps, Moon, I don't know.
I kind of, I like the site.
I've made enough money off Creeps.
I don't really care if it goes to zero.
And I think that it's going to be good I think
Grab attention that's all it is
Is attention grabbing your attention
And I think I'm ready for it
Yeah I keep going back and checking it
See if anything's changed on it or not
Nothing's changed on it so
You know it says January, so let's
get through the holidays, get through the new year,
and then... What do you think we're burning, though?
What do you think we're gonna burn?
I don't know what that burn, baby, burn is.
My brother said the creep,
we're burning our creeps. No, fuck.
I highly doubt it's creeps. I mean, it could
be anything, right? It could be IDL traits.
It could be skill points. It could be...
Bro, what if they burned all the original creeps art
and made it all look like the new shit?
And then, like, kind of like the plague's doing.
You burn your creep and get a new one.
What do you think happens there?
I don't want to be too much of a dick here,
but I will say I liked the old plague art a lot better than I liked the new plague art.
I agree. V, what's your favorite Christmas movie? Hold on, Moon. liked the old plague art a lot better than i like so do i yeah i agree i agree
hold on i want to find out what crew would be his favorite christmas movie hold on i'm gonna
predict this um hold on don't say nothing hey guys hey and thank you for for joining the space
yesterday cheers isn't an idiot um i have to wait can you can we uh can we ask you your actual name an idiot because i felt bad
calling you an idiot no i'm gonna pitch and hole you right into calling me an idiot forever i'm not
gonna have you dead naming me live on twitter spaces v no my my real name's kyle it's just uh
kyle okay that's that's that's a very compromised name in my generation you know i mean kyle was
like kind of a cool name when i was a little kid and then it became synonymous with holes in drywall and flat brim hats with monster
emblems on them so yeah it's not really i don't know it doesn't exactly match my brand but it is
the name i was burdened with nonetheless okay so we're gonna stick to an idiot that's more that's There you go. So you got it read. B, were you down in Miami?
We were with you guys down there.
I didn't know if you were there.
I met, I think, one girl from Wow, but I can't remember who it was.
It must have been Christy or Jillian.
Yeah, she was very nice uh i mean you're all
nice what am i saying but thank you it was a good one yeah i was i actually was there in um in miami
but later i think i arrived i remember correctly i think it was the day after it started it was like
that saturday yeah i remember seeing your post yeah
yeah it was like very quick quick quick uh fly in fly out just to to meet some people and i had
back-to-back uh one-on-one meeting so i couldn't even the sad part is that i didn't even have time
to go to two events so but i went there i was there so so So let's go back to what is actually interesting.
What is my favorite Christmas movie?
What are your bets, guys?
Kenny, what do you think?
V's favorite Christmas movie.
I mean, dude, you know, A Christmas story is just such a classic
I don't think it's a classic for her
I'm going to go A Nightmare Before Christmas
A Nightmare Before Christmas
I know a lot of people that's their favorite
Tim Burton knocked it out of the park on that one
40% of people's favorite Christmas movie is probably
A Nightmare Before Christmas. Mostly women.
Mostly women, too, I think.
I'm going with It's a Wonderful Life.
Jack Frost was a great one back when
I was a kid, too. Oh, man.
I just watched that last night. I fell asleep
to it. All right, V. Big reveal. What do just watched that last night. I fell asleep to it.
Big reveal. What do we got?
Well, they're all very good guesses.
But none of you guessed, guys.
I literally watched that one.
Come on. So disappointing. Home Alone is a classic.
Yeah, go with the number one Christmas.
The first two Home Alones are God-tier Christmas movies, for sure.
Die Hard's a good Christmas movie.
And our favorite guys in Home Alone 1, Donald J. Trump.
Okay, let's not turn this into a rally.
Yeah, we're not trying to
We're talking about Christmas, bro.
I watched it a few days ago
I have to watch it because people say that it's a Christmas movie
and then you have another school of thought that say it's not a Christmas movie, so I have to make up my mind, really? Okay, I have to watch it because people say that it's a Christmas movie and then you have another school of thought that
say it's not a Christmas movie,
so I have to make up my mind, right?
I have to have my own opinion.
And I have to say, I don't know if it's
a Christmas movie or not.
It's just centered around Christmas.
the very, I think the first,
was it the first and third one were around Christmas?
Was the second one with Samuel L. Jackson?
That's probably almost better than the first one.
Probably one of the best, honestly.
Yeah, but the third one is back at Christmas time again.
It just has a Christmas tree in the back.
By the time they dropped the third one,
people had irreverently tried to pigeonhole it as a Christmas movie
enough that they leaned into that.
I personally am with you, V.
I don't think any movie where the number one quote from the movie
is yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker counts as a Christmas movie.
That's exactly inappropriate.
The best part of that movie was when the salesman
tried to go in and negotiate
with the terrorists and he just got
his head blown off where he was trying to be
cool and shit. That was the best part
I think the best part was just
hearing that German accent.
Listening to them pretending to be
german was hilarious just hilarious pretty brutal oh my god did they butcher it or did they do good
no i think it's just it's just like the stereotypical of what you think or i guess
what most people think german people are or speak like or act like um but yeah it was
fun it was just a fun movie and the funny johnny when we need him johnny is german is he is he
german i think so yeah yeah because he speaks german like fluently so but he probably speaks
eight other languages fluently as well so but i think
he lives in like sweden or somewhere our next christmas question do we open presents christmas
eve at midnight or do you wait till the morning what yeah who does it at christmas eve at midnight
dude we did that for years as families. We would always get together with our families. That's crazy to stay up till midnight.
And then the kids would open their presents at midnight.
We always did one gift on Christmas Eve.
You get one gift on Christmas Eve,
and then you got to wait till the next morning for the rest.
Yeah, exactly what we did.
Opening all the presents on Christmas Eve.
What are you doing Christmas Day?
It depends where you are like uh like in england with well when i grew up i used to do the one present and then christmas day you used to do all of them but then i moved to sweden for 10 years
and they had christmas christmas eve is the is the day you open presents so you open everybody
all the family come around you open them christmas
eve on the night really yeah santa comes yes yes yeah with everything i mean we had a bunch of kids
in our family like when i was growing up there were 10 15 kids amongst the four brothers on my
dad's side of the family so our our families would get together on Christmas Eve,
have dinner, and then the kids would open presents.
Somebody would dress up like Santa,
and we'd open presents at midnight
because the families were together.
You know, Christmas Day, it was more of just about,
you know, eating food and whatnot.
But yeah, we did that for you.
That's heartwarming, Kenny.
Hans just sent me a tweet
nothing can prepare you for the plot twist
in SNL's Home Alone remake
And I have not seen this yet, but it's three
minutes long. So I gotta watch this
after. It's the plot twist. She eats a
sandwich. Oh, sorry. That was terrible.
Yeah. She eats a fucking piece of
cranberry and falls over she's very skinny and unhealthy i don't i don't know what's wrong with
her um but hey more power to you if that's what you want to do um yeah whatever but yeah i want
to watch this uh it'll be pretty funny did you see the home alone uber did we talk about this
last year the home alone uber ride with Macaulay coffee. No.
You've never seen that? It's like three months. You've got to watch it.
The whole way he's bitching about his parents leaving him home.
Oh, yeah. No, I've never seen that.
pretty much it. Space is kind of dead.
It's kind of quiet. Everybody's getting ready for Christmas.
I've got to get a bunch of shit ready here down uh since we have v here is there anything imminent uh in world of women that you just want the space to know about here
not imminent i guess define a minute but uh january is coming and we have something we're going to launch in January. Nothing that we spoke about yesterday,
but it's going to be a fun reward system that we have in place
and going to launch in January.
So that's the most imminent thing.
And just on the Christmas stuff, guys guys i completely agree with ken and alex i've never
and i don't know if it's a european thing but i've never celebrated christmas on the 25th i'm
sorry i've never celebrated christmas on the 25th and sad part of it is that my birthday is on the
24th so i'm born tomorrow so the story of my life is that i never got a birthday celebration
because in my family we celebrate christmas on the 24th so wow yeah well happy birthday
that's uh yeah that's that's pretty wild yeah uh i've never heard of that i think you know and i
you know me growing up as a first generation American, obviously Palestinian and Lebanese.
I mean, we, there was no way the kids were waiting until the 25th.
I mean, you know, you got to stare at presents under the tree, you know, for weeks, just hawking the tree waiting, you know.
So, yeah, once all the kids are together, everybody's begging their parents to let us start over you know can we open our presents out and then we make it till midnight
but what are you doing on christmas day i told you we're just like getting together and having a nice
christmas you know lunch dinner i guess what you would call it yeah we just eat food and spend
time with family well see we do the same so tomorrow i have i don't
know probably close to 40 50 people coming to my house tomorrow for christmas eve so that's all the
family everybody's getting together we play games doing cookies all just a whole day affair and then
um everybody goes home and then when everybody leaves my kids will open one gift and then um everybody goes home and then when everybody leaves my kids will open one gift
and then tomorrow morning santa comes we open everything then and then later on in the day
we go eat dinner at my sister's then the same big ass group of people you know destroy her house
um so it's you know and then it now with it being like this, it'll lead into Friday and Saturday.
Like we'll have Christmas stuff going on throughout the whole weekend, you know, leading into the new year.
So like it's going to be like a week of partying.
The gifts being the centerpiece is a mostly American phenomenon.
I mean, my wife being here from el salvador like they don't even do
gifts dude they just party they actually all stay up until midnight to do fireworks and shit
on christmas eve they have a they have a big party in the street you know fireworks the whole nine
yards it's uh it's pretty lit yo do you turn around and do it all again for new year just
like two weeks of partying does your, does your wife make ponche?
Do you know what that is?
Actually, my wife does not.
She is not a big drinker.
You get her a drink and she doesn't even want to taste the alcohol.
It has to be sweet and delicious.
She likes orange crushes and anything super fruity. But if she can taste the alcohol, she's to be sweet and delicious. She likes orange crushes and anything super
fruity, but if she can taste the
alcohol, she's the exact opposite of my grandmother.
If you give my grandmother a drink and she
can't taste the alcohol, she will fucking
Yeah, she wants her whiskey neat. That's it.
Same. Yeah, exactly go party with grandma. Same.
The other night I did have
I had one too many of those.
How did you get that eggnog cheese?
Did someone tell you you had to put the blindfold
Why are you going to be all inappropriate?
So my goddaughter and I, we decided we're going to be making peppermint martinis for
the Christmas Day celebration.
Oh, they're ridiculously good.
I've had them a couple times.
It's festive although unfortunately down here in houston the weather currently right now we're sitting at 78 degrees tomorrow
i can go in shorts and a t-shirt to uh our christmas or on uh thursday i mean it's just
yeah it does not nothing like a te Christmas. That's depressing, really.
I love, I love Texas Christmas. Cause it's, yeah, every year it's, it's shorts and flip-flops.
Um, I was hoping for snow, but yeah, we're going to be in the sixties here as well.
We had a, uh, we actually had a really great snowstorm come through a couple of weeks ago.
I had like five, six inches of fresh powder that, and it stayed cold for like a week and
a half. It was six inches of fresh powder that and it stayed cold for like a week and a half it was it stayed fresh powder and then here just this last week it got back up into
like the 50s it's currently raining outside everything's all bleak and miserable looking
nice yeah i have a question actually for you guys about eggnog because i tasted my first eggnog a few days ago and i thought i knew
how it should be prepared but i don't know so here's my question how does you how does your
eggnog traditionally come as hot or cold and is it with liquor or not yes i assume jesus's came warm and high protein
anyway that's that's no that's the end of the jesus christ look at this guy didn't think
yes cold and with liquor in it and i i take a uh so when i make mine, I'll take, uh, a little bit of, uh, like I'm talking about
a very small little bit of vanilla and I fill the glass up halfway with Buffalo trace, uh,
because I like Buffalo trace.
Then I fill it up halfway.
Anyway, I'm actually done.
Then halfway with eggnog.
And then I have a cinnamon stick that i stir it with and
i'm telling you it's like next level yeah and don't you make your own eggnog from from scratch
no fire pre-made yeah i buy it pre-made i'm not going okay i got told that i had to make it from
scratch it's pretty simple just milk cream and eggs and stuff like that. Yeah, no, it's too much work, bro.
My brother's girlfriend made a, I think it was a Brazilian eggnog.
It doesn't have any egg in it.
I forgot what she made it.
You can't call it eggnog.
It was honestly better than the OG, I'll be honest with you.
Yeah, no, you're're not gonna convince me otherwise
do rum or bourbon i personally prefer bourbon but a lot of people like rum
um and then just add you can add a little kahlúa to it as well um but yeah yeah i typically will
get just the mix and then yeah add the liquor to it well because like down here like southern comfort like
that makes the actual liquor uh they actually have their own version of eggnog so you can get
it with or without uh southern comfort already in it which is which is pretty good as well so
um but i just get the one without it and add my own last year i went through like three bottles
of mccallan and eggnog and it was man that was good i'm telling you man it's so good hey sun cruisers
or surf sides what sun cruisers or surf sides what's your favorite i don't know what the
you're talking is that a drink yeah it's a big bro you're a bartender up here asking us
about drinking i've never heard of that i thought it was like a big bro you're a bartender up here asking us about drinking i've never heard of
that shit i thought it was like a big thing people i thought everyone knew what surf sides
were no give me a modello a corona or something with buffalo trace or fucking tito's in it
and i'm good i don't need surf sides and i forgot moon high is a bartender. Moon High, have you ever heard of a shot called a masturbating mosquito?
Oh my god. This is a real shot.
We used to get these all the time.
We'd get shit-faced and be like,
right now are orange teas.
They're delicious. I mean, they're made with
Jameson orange instead of regular Jameson.
I don't even drink green peas
Okay that doesn't sound too bad
They're like my go to drink
Well I have a feeling somebody gave V hot
No actually they gave me cold
And I was so disappointed because I thought it would be hot.
Well, drink it hot and tell us how it tastes.
Yeah, I have to try it again.
But you mentioned Macaulay.
Are you guys versed, well-versed in whiskey?
Because I don't drink alcohol, but I've got offered an investment opportunity recently. This massive collector
in New York, he has the largest Monet paintings in the world. He holds the largest. I mean,
he has everything. He has like Kobe Bryant's jerseys. He has letters from the,
that were transported on the Titanic that were,
He has like that guide from,
when they go to the moon,
they have this guide and they had the,
he has the original guide autographed by every single astronaut that went on the first.
By like Neil Armstrong and all them?
Anyway, big time collector.
But he has this big investment in McAllen whiskeys.
And he turned that into notes.
And anyway, we were talking about me investing into it,
but I didn't because I know nothing and nothing.
I say nothing about that liquor and alcohol because I don't drink.
So what is your take on Macaulay?
Because Jesus, you said it's pretty good. Yeah, I really't drink. So what is your take on Macaulay? Because Jesus, you said it's pretty good.
I only get the 18 because that's all I can mainly afford.
There's other bottles that are very expensive.
And it's, I mean, it's a well-loved drink.
So I don't, man, I wish Bibbles was in here.
That guy's fucking versed on this like
the expert i am yeah extremely averse to whiskey when i was a kid my best friend this is
inappropriate to an extent i guess i was drinking a lot when i was very underage
because a good friend of mine's family was like off the boat Irish. And his dad was, he had diabetes, he was
missing a leg. So we lived next door with the aunt and uncle. So we had this house to ourselves
that was just chock full of imported Irish whiskeys. And I mean, we used to throw down on
some Irish whiskey and I can't, I can't smell whiskey today. I can't even look at it.
So V, I'm going to give you a word of advice don't take your investment
thesis from someone who was scarred by people with traumatic situations over whiskey and losing body
parts those things don't matter it's about the profit okay and that's what we're here for so
if you have a chance to invest in mccallan or some some, some guy that has his hand. Invest in the whiskey.
So what if it takes your leg?
You've got a bad profit margin.
It doesn't matter as long as the, as long as the straw can still go in the mouth.
You don't even need arms.
You just need to be able to lean over and suck.
That was a feeding tube, brother.
Yeah. No, but I feel like i know i i have
some friends that are that are uh that are very big whiskey heads and these guys like they sit
there and watch websites waiting for certain uh like cask release and it's it's a very big
very big industry so yeah if you have a chance
to go into that especially like something with mccallan i'd be all in on that shit um yeah 100
he buys casks and he has his own bottling factory in i mean this guy is just out of this world. He's like the 0.001% of this world.
But what I was thinking and what we're talking about is how do I maybe use that as a vehicle
and make it available to my community at WOW as, you know.
Well, so here's what we use.
So we had this guy on the space a long time
ago kenny you remember this guy he was out of kentucky and this guy had a bourbon plate he
made bourbon and he was creating an nft where you could buy a fractionalized ownership into the cast
yep so like what so what you could do is like I guess, part of your investment or whatever.
Owning a world of women NFT gets you, I don't know,
maybe that gets you a piece of the cast returns
because there's different ages.
With McAllen, I think McAllen is 18, 25, 30.
Solana community. These motherfuckers can't hold
No, no, no, no. She's talking about rewarding
I'm making a Solana joke.
It's even funnier when I explain it.
We're talking about fucking whiskey and ETH.
You're talking about Solana and Handies in the back corner.
I'll just go fuck myself.
You're not that big of an idiot.
I just forgot to laugh about it
uh but yeah the i think you could uh i think you could reward the the world of women community
in some way um by incorporating that like um god kenny what did uh a wreck? Like maybe this is a conversation to have with OSF and how they did shares of
Initially the NFTs gave a portion of equity to the wrecked brands company.
I don't know exactly how much it was,
but there was some type of fractionalized ownership into the equity of the
Ecosystem. So, so like, yeah, yeah like so you would have your personal investment in it but then it's also like you have a pool of an investment for
world of women and world of women is branching into rwas and you know by holding nfts you can
own a piece of that um you know a piece of that equity based on rarity maybe
you know that's exactly how i was thinking about it uh yeah but it's it's how you structure it the
whole legal aspect to it is also like a little bit tricky so yeah talking with a legal team on
how we can do that well just hire trump's attorneys everything's legal and
it's full crime season so it doesn't doesn't really matter um and even if something did
you know they got a big black marker that just covers it all up anyways so right kyle
kyle you can unmute your mic now
morgan we got morgan j, you're definitely the big...
Fucking phone screen wasn't unlocked.
You lost it. Just go back on mute.
I'm not even going to say what I was going to say.
You are the authority on big black things.
All right, Morgan, what's up? How you doing?
Hi, guys. May I? Oh, oh did we just leave i'm a bartender
of 20 years so oh nice and did head of promotions and events so uh we're just gonna chime in on the
the whole uh liquor mccallan thing um but yeah yeah um i i'm no v2 so uh nice yeah well you
can probably settle the debate then what is the proper way to serve eggnog to serve eggnog just just down that shit out of a bottle it's freaking eggnog
there you go okay out of a rocks glass is fine i mean it's it's nothing like uh you know it's it's
uh if it's homemade eggnog and it's a little stronger and maybe a little different you know
and you want to make it nice then uh maybe a a
cordial glass or something but otherwise rocks glass just throw that shit in rocks glass with
some ice there you go anything too crazy so yeah see right up my alley but you gotta add a little
whiskey or something in there with it yeah it's gotta be it's gotta be heavy yeah but um well we
will yeah i don't know v must have got a call or something. All good.
But yeah, we appreciate you coming up.
Kyle, who else you bring up here before we shut this bitch down?
Our new friend, Rich Water, who didn't follow me, but I brought him up anyway because I think he retweeted Space or something, maybe?
You stuck through my spilter today, Rich Water.
Don't you waste the opportunity.
This is your last Christmas present before we shut it down.
I've never hit follow so quick in my life.
I'm following everyone now.
Thanks for bringing me up.
I've been in Salado a long time, so I understand your sentiment.
My birthday is the day after Christmas.
So I also have sentiment for whoever's talking about being born.
Happy birthday, Hannah Todd.
And my old partner, she used to be a master sommelier.
And she introduced me to Japanese whiskeys probably about 10 years ago.
And I went psycho on that shit for so long
I can't drink anymore now cuz my body rejects alcohol, but I got to say
It hurts me hearing you guys all talk about
Having a good time over Christmas and doing that because I'm a straight 80 now and I don't mind it
I've got a lot more time to do other shit in life, but geez
I miss just being able to sit down with the family have a drink and not worry about it
Are you still indulging some Christmas trees or something like that?
Does your buddy reject that?
Like his doctor said, hey, you can't drink anything.
So this guy goes out and buys non-alcoholic Guinness and drinks the non-alcoholic Guinness
just so his mind thinks that he's still drinking.
but it's like what just tried drugs but it's terrible yeah yeah man i tried um non-alcoholic
it's not bad but it's it's kind of sad because you don't get a buzz out of it and um and it's
the same price as a normal guinness man yeah but then you gotta also if you're not gonna catch a buzz bro i mean that's pointless but
that's also time for you to think about your life i wonder if it tastes similar though because i'll
say this i drink a guinness i don't drink guinness at the house if i'm at the house i'll pour some
titos or something i don't i drink rarely at the house but if i go out for a meal i love a guinness
with a meal just one i'm not partying you know. You know, it's just like it's delicious to me, man.
It's kind of close, but it's like anything without alcohol.
There's that tiny little bit in it that sort of, yeah,
just the aroma of the alcohol itself is what I think makes Guinness better.
And you try the – it's like any non-alcoholic beer.
It's just kind of – it's just shit.
It's just gone awful, isn't it?
Yeah, I'm a glutard also, so I can't even eat wheat
and that, so like, you know, I pretty well
live on cardboard and water at the moment.
That's what you hear, that man.
All non-alcoholic is pretty much god awful, isn't it?
Non-alcoholic drinks that, you know,
once they strip out the alcohol,
I think it's really bad for you.
Unlike alcohol, which is amazing.
What the fuck are you doing up there?
Yeah, fame. Merry Christmas, brother.
I was trying to find your saxophone entrance,
but I couldn't find it fast
bro you're good no no no you know just chilling man you know i've been busy yo i was doing like
this one long ass job in massachusetts that went really good dude i ain't gonna lie but pretty good
no i just wanted to say hi to guys and say merry christmas to you guys you know because i'm literally
doing nothing like i just got back home i'm in st louis now so just like you know visiting my girlfriend's family when are you gonna go work for candace
owens man i'd rather drop dead unless you're paying fat then maybe is it is this the same
girlfriend yeah yeah same girlfriend that's beautiful bro that makes me amanda right it's
awesome yeah i mean the amanda i mean she does got the classic white girl name, her name's Haley, oh Haley
I call her Mandy, that's what I used to call her
but fame calls her whatever
I know, I'm bugging with fame
I haven't talked to fame in too long
well that's good fame, well hopefully you have
a good Christmasmas bro um
congratulations on getting those epstein files pushed out i know you were working close with
bondy on that um so yeah yeah fucking uh yeah so uh what what's happening uh midterms and stuff
are you going to be gone and ramping up and doing shit with that where are you going
um i'm seeing so i'm in discussions with like two different groups about maybe working on their
midterm elections but nothing's set in stone right now right now i'm just working on like
um like some different like petition campaigns right now in uh california to get some stuff on
the ballot so that's about it right now so i'm just doing more like uh just like statewide issues right now but um but i'm seeing though
about for like midterms more money for illegals i heard that's on the ballot i'm not shocked by that
oh my god all i know is my pockets are fatter that's all i care about i don't give a fuck about
what you got there you go there you. I respect a man who will turn on
his own principles for a fucking fat
paycheck, because I will too,
working on all different types of issues,
but it's been cool. It's been cool, because
I've been working on the petitions right
now, so they're all mixed
bag things. Some are Democratic
issues, some are Independent, some are Republican issues. I don't really
Well, good to hear your voice.
someone else? Yeah, I know. Goddamn
Moonhigh. Oh, I'm not crying. I just
think it's fucking hilarious. People just sell their
fucking soul out for a dollar. It's hilarious.
It's alright. It's okay. Okay. It's okay.
You stay with your wages, my guy.
Next time you come up, I'll immediately
kick Moon Eye from the stage because he clearly
can't let us have a reunion.
I know. It's been like a year
since we heard Fame's voice.
deranged ass every fucking week.
I got real. just off the chain.
I'm real. That's the problem. I don't fuck.
I'm not fake. I'm not a fake person.
Make sure you go and like and retweet and pin my grifty Z post to your
own account on my behalf for zero
pay whatsoever. Please do that.
You can't pin someone else's post to your
account. Have you tried? Because
I think you should all try anyway.
hey man, the scientific method and all verify,
or something like that. I guess, yeah.
Everybody be safe next few days.
Don't know about Kenny. Yeah, it's after Christmas. Don't know about Kenny.
Yeah, it's Friday. We don't know about Kenny.
Boxing Day, as they call it
Yeah. Kenny just, hold on.
Kenny just said this motherfucker celebrates Christmas
Yeah, dude. He'll be two days removed
from opening Christmas presents on Friday.
is what I'm saying. Oh, now here it is. Well, when we were kids is what I'm saying.
Well, now we're adults, so it's like we don't really, like, I give my sister and brother money.
They give me money, and that's pretty much it.
Yeah, we don't do a lot of gifts either.
Everybody gets one gift for one person.
Well, either way, however you celebrate Christmas,
Merry Christmas. Not happy
holidays because that's gay.
Come back on Friday. We'll be here.
Don't drink and drive. Get a fucking Uber.
Get an Uber or stay the fucking home. Don't drink and drive either. Don't drink and drive. Get a fucking Uber. Get an Uber
or stay the fucking home.
Don't drink and drive is a pretty universal
statement. Don't drink and drive beyond
your capabilities. That's what I would say.
and shoot up heroin either.
Don't get fucked by the state.
Alright, cool. Everybody have a good day. We's good. All right, cool.
Everybody have a good day. We will be back
Friday. Bye, everybody. Come back soon,
buddy. Good to hear your voice, for real.
Merry Christmas, everybody. Always, bro.
Merry Christmas to our new friends here, Morgan and Rich.
You guys motherfuckers come back, too. Don't forget it. Cheers. Thanks, man. Merry Christmas to our new friends here Morgan and Rich you guys Come back too