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Reality Check 🧀🎙️ THINK 🧠
Recorded: April 16, 2025 Duration: 2:27:13Space Recording
Short Summary
Excitement builds as a new project prepares for launch, with discussions on token minting, strategic partnerships, and the integration of AI in the crypto space. Community engagement is on the rise, signaling positive growth trends, while funding strategies and hiring efforts are also in focus.
Full Transcription
I'm gonna fight them all
I said the nation army couldn't hold me back.
They're going to rip it off.
Taking their time right behind my back.
And I'm talking to myself all night because I can't forget.
Back and forth through my mind behind a cigarette. can't forget. I can.
I'll say. . Don't want to hear about it.
Every single one's got a story to tell.
Everyone knows about it.
From the Queen of England to the Hounds of Hell.
And if I catch it coming back my way, I'm going to serve it to you.
And that ain't what you want to hear, but that's what I'll do.
And the feeling coming from my bones, that's my dog. Oh I'm going to Wichita
Far from this opera forevermore
I'm gonna work this song
Make the sweat drip out of every pore
And I'm bleeding, and I'm bleeding, and I'm bleeding right before the Lord
All the words are gonna bleed from me and I will think no more.
And the steam's coming from my blood till we go back home. all right all right all right good morning good morning good morning good morning um let me try
and get jesse back up here he keeps having some uh connections here so let me see what the hell
is going on good morning good morning good
morning good morning uh let's get it get it cranking guys make sure you repost the room
share the space drop it in all your chats if you did not know anything about ai agents we're gonna
we're gonna be getting into this today uh pretty heavily with think um not sure how much time they
have i think we're gonna run for about an hour um dive into
this um and it's gonna be pretty interesting um kenny gm what's happening what's going on are you
with us what's good what's good yeah of course i'm here bro we're talking about my favorite
favorite subject i know i know i know but calm down we're not talking about ai meme coins and
uh all kinds of...
I thought your favorite subject was generic brand antibiotics, but okay.
Yeah.
But yeah, anyways, GM, like I said, repost the room.
Share the space.
Drop any questions, comments that you have.
We'll bring people up later on towards the end of the space.
If you have any questions and want to come up and actually ask as well.
And then we're also live on Abstract Chain as well.
So go over there.
I'll be showing some, you know, some visual stuff from the side of what these guys are cooking over at Think.
But yeah, excited to dive into this one um and then
i also i i have a few pinned tweets up uh so if you're not following think um make sure you're
following them and jesse's up here uh jesse gm how you doing great how you doing thanks for having
me doing pretty good yeah i didn't know if you were coming in or if mikey was coming in i didn't
know who was coming yeah mike's flying back from la he was speaking at render con yesterday so he's uh i think he's in
the air really okay all right well no that's uh no that's good i'm actually trying to actually
share up another space because i don't know if he's gonna land in time for this one but um anyone
else that's also interested i'm'm trying to get Von Dooms cause
I think they have one coming up tomorrow. Um, so I'm trying to get that one shared up and,
uh, it looks like Mike and Felix are going to be over there, um, speaking with them as well. So
you'll be able to get different takes, different, um, you know, um, you know, a different take from
both sides, from, from the side of everyone on the team
because it's um it's you felix and mikey are like the main outward facing team members right yeah
outward facing and then john clem is our cto that's kind of like the core team yeah nice okay
yeah because i i remember mikey when it was um when i believe it was 60 79 79 that's right yeah yeah yeah so because
i was uh poppy had actually me and him got on a call like right as that was coming out and he's
awesome yeah and poppy was like bro this is gonna be dope you need to follow this and then i followed
it and then of course like everything in the space you you know, we all have the, uh, the attention span of
like maybe 30 seconds, but like AI though, AI, AI agents, like this is all really important stuff.
And I know for myself, I'm not educated on it at all, not in any capacity to where I should be.
Um, because it really, you know, your, your accent makes you sound like a uh artificial
intelligence yeah hey don't don't judge me by my accent bro um but i mean it's very important
because you know it's it's you know ai's being stopped you know in a way i think of growth and
from the political side of things i mean it's it's pretty wild. And it's incorporated in everything we do every day now.
So, you know.
Where there's electricity, there's going to be intelligence.
Oh, see, that's scary, bro.
That's where we're at.
But for me, it's kind of like, you know, but we're going to dive into all this.
I want to kind of give a rundown.
If you want to give a rundown of um
you know who is jesse and uh we can kind of dive into what think is uh doing here sure uh my
background um i mean way back in the day i was on the media side um and then uh i guess the last
thing i did before starting this company is i started and ran an agency in Seattle for 13
years and did all sorts of cool stuff over there. If you're into the Seahawks, I did We Are 12 for
the Seahawks. I did Xbox and Microsoft and all sorts of folks, all the kind of Seattle brands.
And so I've been building brands and companies for a long time. In fact, Mike and I have started a
bunch of companies together. He used to run an incubator that I participated in. And so we've just spun up a
bunch of companies over time. And I'm usually on the kind of more storytelling comms marketing,
but I was really the one that kind of brought Mike. Mike was really the AI guy, and I was kind
of the Web3 guy. So I also worked at Proof and things like that.
And when we were doing 6079, that was our first attempt at, can we start to gather a group of
people around the idea that you need to own your intelligence, that you shouldn't just be
renting AI? Because if we end up in a world where only three or four big players have,
you know, is where we get our intelligence from, whether it's Microsoft, Amazon, or the CCP.
It's a pretty dystopian world.
And so we were trying to figure out like, hey, can we get a group of people together
so that we can try to open source as much of this as possible so that you can actually
own your own like entire AI stack.
And that's what we're about to launch.
And so we've been at it for years. And we're
finally to the point now where we started a thing called Independent AI Institute, which was about
connecting all the companies. So like, like, imagine, like, when we first started this stuff,
it's almost like there was no town, and we had to cut down the trees, and we had to put in the roads.
And you know, we had to do all that stuff, because there was no independent AI movement.
When we started. In fact, the first time we all got together,
just as like a community, there was like 25 people together.
And now when we get together, there's thousands.
And so we've been on this journey of really building an entire,
like connecting all the pieces
and helping build an entire industry from scratch.
Doom's been there for a lot of the journey,
which has been pretty crazy to see.
But now we're finally to the point,
because of all the open source stuff that's happened, where you can actually knit all these things
together into a cohesive framework so that you can run your own AI, like on your even on your
own devices that never even touch the internet. And so we're really excited about that and making
sure that everyone has access to intelligence that's not nerfed or controlled by the government
or any large corporation yeah uh because that's
like i mean i see the reports about google and they're you know constantly upgrading and evolving
their stuff and they're doing all these things and then like listening going back to yours and
and uh mikey's uh connection together yeah i'd listen to them in one space because i've listened
about four different spaces um for me i it's either i visually uh like watching a video or listening to someone speak
so i can learn better that way um so going back and listening to a lot of the spaces that you
guys were doing and he had said he had i think he had has been through 17 different startups um so
i'm imagining that's where five or six exits like really we've had a bunch of
companies yeah nice okay um well and that's good because a lot bro there's so many teams in web 3
that have never even met each other except through calls um you know so having that relationship to
where you guys know each other even like felix our our coo he was so when um when Kevin brought me in to try to turn around the proof stuff with Felix,
and then I've been there for about a month, just consulting, trying to help with that. And then
he sold it to Yuga. But my boss there was actually Felix, who is now our COO and runs all of ops
for us. So just as a group, we all go away. In fact, our CTO, he and I went to college together.
So it's, um, it's a pretty tight knit group. Wow. Yeah, no, that bro, that's dope. And it makes the vision, the vision, I guess is, is understood better because if everybody's on the same page,
uh, then, you know, then things are going to roll much more smoothly.
And we hit the point too with our careers where everybody had like, I sold my agency,
everybody had exits and we're like, what do we want to do? And you know, most of I mean, well, in fact, everybody on the team are
all dads. And we're like, Alright, well, what's the most important thing we can work on right now?
And it all kept coming back to we got to make sure that AI is independent. And it's not tied
to one single. Because like, I've talked about this before, like, again, I'm on the marketing
side. And, you know, Stalin said that film, this was in the 30s,
he said that film was the greatest tool ever built
for controlling the human mind, programming human minds.
It's nothing compared to what AI is about to do.
If I was in control of a stack, like a Google stack
or the CCP or something like that,
when you interact with AI on a constant daily basis,
all it has to do is
change your perspective by like a fraction of a percentage every day. It's going to be the
greatest tool for indoctrination we've ever seen. And so we all sat down and we're like, all right,
well, because of all the open source that was starting to happen, it's like, there's actually
a window right now where we could tie all these things together and pretty much open source this stuff.
But we knew that the window was closing.
Because even a minute ago, when you said like there's political stuff,
you know, I'm not really want to talk about politics,
but, you know, with the Biden administration made it very well known
that they were going to pretty much outlaw independent AI.
And they've already picked the winners, right?
So it would almost be like saying you can
only run, you know, iOS or windows, but Linux is illegal or something like that, you know? Like,
and so we were heading into this super dystopian world where you weren't allowed to use AI without
somebody monitoring it. I mean, they were even talking about the GPUs when you buy a GPU,
that it would hit a server and have to approve what you asked it before it would answer.
So it's straight.
And that's where 6079, actually, they brought that up when we were trying to figure out how to start a movement.
In the book 1984, the main character's name is Winston Smith.
And when the state takes away his name, they replace his name with a number.
The number was 6079.
So even the movement we started was named after Winston Smith from 1984 because we were concerned that's where this was going um and so for the last really
about two years we've been building and connecting all the pieces so we could get here and now now
like the consortium has you know 70 companies in it companies like render you know morpheus um you
know it's it's crazy it's that uh venice if anybody anybody knows Venice they're one of our main partners
and these are all brands you guys have
brought on to use the
agents right yeah so all of our
agents can talk to each other so what we did was
I think about 6 or 7 or 9 was kind of like let's start
a movement and try to get people to care
about owning their intelligence once we
kind of established that then it was like okay
cool now we need to have shared standards
so we put together a thing called Think.
And Think is about how do we have shared standards so that all of our different technology can talk to each other.
So what Eric is doing at Venice, how do we make sure that that can talk to what the guys at Morpheus are doing, which talks to the stuff that we're doing?
Because when you can connect all these disconnected pieces together, you can have a full tech stack that can rival someone like a Google. Does that make sense? So it's like HTTP or like we had to have standards that we all
agreed to so that when we build, it all connects together and kind of Voltrons into something much
bigger than any specific piece. And that was Think. And what we're about to launch next week
is the ability for you to get your first agent. And so on top of that, almost think about think like iOS,
on top of that kind of operating system,
decentralized operating system,
we're building our first product, which is called Souls,
which is a platform where you can actually own your own agent
and use it in a completely controlled way
where there's three things.
Number one, you own the data.
So first thing, like Jesus, when you log in,
it says, where do you want your data to go? So like for me, I'm running it all locally
on my laptop. I just say, keep it on my laptop because I don't want anybody to have access to
what I'm doing, right? Because keep in mind, your AI, pretty much if you're using these larger
systems, you give it like root access to your device. So it sees everything you look at on
the internet. It sees everything that's on your computer. So if you're in web three and you care about your keys,
well, I heard Mikey talking about this. Yeah, dude. So some people are talking to some people
and they're like, Oh man, I'm using, you know, Google's like full stack. It's amazing. It's like,
did you give it full access to your computer? And they're like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, cool.
It knows everything now. Like it has access to your files, right? It sees like when it sees coming too, where I can run all that locally.
And I don't even have to have, if your computer's fast enough to even run the models,
you don't even have to hit the internet. Really? Yeah. So if you're running small
enough models, like my CTO has like a pretty powerful computer and he'll just like, he'll be
like, check this out. He just turns off his wifi and he just does a bunch of stuff on his computer.
He's like, I'm running all this locally. If you have a slower machine, then we have a partnership with Venice that allows you
to connect to Venice because they also don't custody your data so that you can be, you
know, in essence, using your intelligence.
Or like, imagine like Jesus, like if you owned a business and you were feeding in your financials
or any proprietary information to your company or your healthcare records, when you do that,
you know, with Google and OpenAI and these other records when you do that you know with
google and open ai and these other systems you know that all that's getting harvested
but if you use it in one of these decentralized systems it just stays on your device
see a lot of this up until yeah up until like when i was going back and listening to mikey because
like you hear everybody saying oh i like come get your ai agent here did ai agent
for this um you know like i i have an i have a badge for i agent which is a uh i agent that
gathers visual data through your gameplay and so but it's like when i heard him say
if you think all your information is your information,
he's like, I hope you don't have that little MetaMask logo at the top right of your screen.
And as soon as he said that during the space, I looked up at the top right corner of my screen.
And the only thing I could see up there while there is a bunch of other shit is my MetaMask.
And I'm like, oh my God, what?
Like, I know you see the permissions like oh
connect your x and it's like oh they can read or view this or that but i didn't realize it was to
that extent yeah man it says that they get the data yeah so if it's on your browser i have access
right i i think the problem is you know the evolution of ai and just like the everyday use has grown at such a rapid pace, you know, like, yeah, it's like the gold rush.
Everybody's, you know, rushing to jump on open AI or deep seek or, you know, grok, whatever it is, you know, to use it and simplify life, you know, because it is useful in that sense.
But I think the problem is people aren't fully grasping like jesse saying you know
the privacy acts of it and like the information that these things are able to tap into so i think
what you guys are doing with think is like really next level you know if you care about your privacy
and ownership oh dude and here's here's another kind of premise for what we're building on souls
is like our kind of thesis that you're primarily going to only interact with one agent, right? Like if you go to like,
I think it's agents.com and there's hundreds of pages of pages of pages of
different agents. Like here's an agent that does LinkedIn and here's an agent
that runs your Twitter. Right. But you can't,
nobody's like figured out how to connect them all together in a really simple
way for normal people. If you're not an engineer.
And so what we built is when you log in, you have your agent, right? And that agent goes out. And if you're trying to do
a task that it can't do, it goes out and it finds another agent and brings it in. But you don't have
to source any of that stuff. It's almost like imagine if there was just the internet and there
was no like Google that you could go to and help you find something. So what we've done behind the
scenes is we're connecting
these things called MCPs, super agents at Morpheus, different things like that all together
so that you just see your agent. And by the way, you're going to get to personalize that agent.
So we're announcing a partnership with a blue chip NFT community next week. We're like,
you'll be able to, if you have one of of those you'll be able to embody your agent as like your favorite nft right and just like talk to it which would be pretty sweet um
and then behind the scenes like let's say you're like hey help me with my taxes or something it
will go out and find an agent that specializes in that almost in essence like endorses it looks up
like it's ratings and then we'll bring it back and help you achieve that goal but for you it's
simple you're just dealing with one that was my question how does it how does it back and help you achieve that goal. But for you, it's simple. You're just dealing with one.
That was my question.
How does it know the security, like if this agent's safe to interact with?
That's right.
So it's all because we have shared standards.
Remember how I said like we need shared standards?
It's almost the same way like you ever go into a website and Google says,
hey, this isn't a safe site?
Yeah. It's because there's shared standards so that you can navigate
between different websites and almost has like credentials.
Right. And so what's cool is because of all the partnerships we've made with like the render folks and Morpheus and people like that, we're all using shared standards. It's almost like we all agreed,
hey, this is how addresses work in our city. So now if I'm delivering mail, I know where Jesus's
house is versus where Von Doom's house is because we all shared the same logic protocol for like how
how addresses work in our city it's kind of like that and then each one of them has like a reputation
score and all sorts of really more complicated shit but for the end user all you know is I was
trying to do this thing my agent didn't know how to use it so it went on so y'all are essentially
creating like a a trustworthy hive of agents that y'all can interact with.
Dude, that's right. It's an index of indexes.
So what's cool is because we're all working together, like I was in Austin last week with our CTO and I was hanging out with the Morpheus crew.
If you know the Morpheus team, they're awesome.
And they're building these things called super agents, which are really cool.
And they're building these things called super agents, which are really cool.
And because we all have shared standards, because we all agree to the think shared standards, their stuff immediately plugs into ours.
So like, okay, so here's kind of the three value props of a think agent on souls.
The first one is you own the data.
So like I said, you choose where your data goes.
And if you trust, like I trust Tim Cook way more than I trust like other people.
So if you want, you can connect it to your iCloud.
And that's where you're backing it up.
It's up to you, right?
So you can either have it on device,
you can pick where your data goes.
The second one is it evolves every day.
Because we keep adding more MCPs,
which I would think about them as almost like individual agents
or like neurons in the brain.
Every time someone updates one of those open source MCPs,
our system is getting smarter, right?
So we're connecting all these things together.
So all of a sudden when, you know, Morpheus launches super agents, because we have shared
standards, those immediately get incorporated into what we're doing.
Right.
And then the last one is it's personal, which means you're going to be able to customize
what your agent looks like.
Like if you want to talk to your board ape or whatever, you'll be able to pick its name
and how it looks and all that kind of stuff. like it's almost like think almost like a custom version
of jarvis right and so if you have an asset with 3d a 3d asset you can pull it in we also i want
my own jarvis i'm gonna call them charvis there you go yeah and so you could pick and the cool
thing is we um acquired some tech
from futureverse who's one of our biggest partners that allows you to just drag and drop like an
image so like with your with your your pfp you can drop it in and it will make a fully 3d a 3d
version that's fully rigged of your character that you can use not only on our platform but also in
in the metaverse now so i have a question because i Cause I like, for me, it's confusing. So like,
if I'm, if I'm, if I have one of the agents and I'm doing something and like, is the agent always
in the background working for me? Like with what I'm, but the task that I'm doing, like,
how does it know to go find another agent or say i'm like trying to edit uh
video content or things like that are there agents out there already that people have built that
there's every day streamline that's a great question so every day you'll hear this term mcp
it's almost like um so if you said like oh travelocity launched mcp well now an agent
could use travelocity.com right so adobe let's Adobe puts out an MCP then all of a sudden our agents can talk to that
stack does that make sense okay yeah yeah yeah okay hearing about like all these people agreed
to this thing called these standards called MCP like Google and Anthropic and like OpenAI I'll
agree to the standard well what that means now is every time someone adds an MCP,
our agents can talk to them.
So it would almost be like saying back in the day,
if you're like, hey, I want to buy whatever.
I'm in Seattle.
I'm a Mariners baseball cap.
I have to go down to the stadium.
You're like, no, there's this new thing called a website.
So you can actually get on a web.
You can get on the web and connect directly to them digitally
and then buy the hat without going there.
It's the same type of thing. Every time somebody adds an MCP, it almost takes their
digital product and allows their agents to interact with it. What do you mean be able to
buy the hat without going to the site? So like in the old days, right? In the old days, you'd have
to go down to the stadium is what I'm saying. And then when you got websites, you're like,
whoa, I can buy this. What happened to physically go there? It's similar to where when you see people launching their MCP version of whatever they're doing, now agents
can interact with that. And so we adhere to all those standards. So on a daily basis, we're adding
more MCPs to our platform. So as soon as a really good MCP gets added, we add it to the platform.
Now in the background, you have access to it. So for instance, if you asked right now and said, Hey, can my agent use premiere? I'd say no.
Right. Because they haven't, there's no MCP that connects them yet. But if Adobe doesn't have that
in the next two months, I'd be shocked. So if Adobe has that, I can literally talk to my website
is what it's about to be like. Yeah. Because i mean it it means agents can't talk to it
so if if i'm if i'm going to street or if like i have so i'm taking this space right here and i'm
i'm wanting to cut it up and i'm using whatever software and they have an mcp i'll be able to
talk to my agent and tell it what i need done through that exactly and it'll will it automatically
do the work for you or will it will it tell you what to do to get to those steps?
Is it more of a –
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is the agent more of a grok?
Or not like grok but like a chat GPT or something like that.
It's similar to like Manus.
Have you played with Manus?
No, I haven't.
Okay, then yeah, yeah.
Grok, something like that.
So when you think about an agent, think about like a real estate agent where if you have a real estate agent, she's going to give you options, right? Like here's houses,
here's budgets, all that kind of stuff. You make the final call. So it'll be like that. It'll say
like, okay, if you're like, Hey, organize these files, it'll be like, is it any particular way?
Or should I just, you know, go for it? And then if you're like, no, I want you to organize it this
way. It's directed by you in essence, right? It's not, you have to give it, you have to organize it this way it's directed by you in essence right it's not you have to give it
you have to prompt it to what you want it to do yeah yeah yeah so but instead of having to go
back and forth to chat gbt back to this site back to that like i can do everything from one place
and not have to it's just that yeah that one central hub yeah that's right now gbt is going
to be able to do all this stuff too as well the only difference is is you know they have your information yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah well no and that's like now fuck
every time i sit there bro the shit i've asked chat gpt yes like somebody on the other end is
probably like who's this fucking weirdo i've had several friends in the uh decentralized ai space
get booted from chat gpt from, from their stack, because they're using
it to develop a bunch of tools to use against it, in essence. And they won't give you a reason why.
They'll just flag you and say, oh, you were doing something that broke our terms of service,
and then they lock you out, right? And you can't get back in. So imagine if you've been using it
to run your business for the last two years, and then just on a whim, they decide to lock you out because
you're considered a competitor or something. What happens to your business? So this is why you have
to own your own stack, right? Like imagine if you had all your healthcare records in there and you
had, well, even now think about like with Google, a lot of people, you know, your photos are there,
all this stuff is there.
What if they decided to just lock your account and now you don't have access to that?
You're kind of screwed.
Which can happen very fast.
Like Google will lock you down in a heartbeat.
So imagine how much more so it's going to be with AI in a couple of years when you're literally running your business and your life from this tech stack.
And then somebody goes, oh, Jesus, you know, that's an offensive name, whatever.
Right.
Like you're locked out and you're like, well, how do I, how do I run my life now?
And so these are all things that are going to become really apparent in the next couple
of years when people start to go like, holy shit, I can't believe we used to, used to
just get rude access to google right well i i
knew when i seen the jesus your name is kind of offensive whatever bro get then leave well i mean
once i started seeing the government come out and say that ai is growing too fast and it's too
powerful and it's like in right there is when I started seeing them trying to limit what people could build or do.
So slavery usually is sold as safety.
OK, that's usually how you sell slavery.
It's like it's like, hey, I'm going to keep you safe, Jesus, because it's really scary out there.
What's that mean? It means just click on this box.
Give me root access to your whole life. I want to read your emails.
I want to do all this stuff because I want to keep you safe.
And you're like, okay, that's a weird way.
That's a weird way of doing it, right?
So you give up your freedoms.
Usually you exchange freedoms for safety, but it's a false safety.
I mean, those of us in crypto, it's like, you know, it's like, yeah, you have to carry the weight of like holding on your own keys and all that kind of shit.
But at least you have agency over your life right like but but what's wild though bro is i guarantee you there's at least 10 people
in this space right now that have their keys stored somewhere on their computer sure yeah
maybe even more than that and like not realizing that like i like i swear i did not think that i
that i was given that much information to people.
About me.
I put my keys in the iCloud, and then I deleted them off my phone.
Sure.
But I just did not realize that.
So it makes perfect sense why I would want to go out and get my own decentralized agent to be able to handle.
But, all right, so here's the question once you do
this does does think have a way or another agent that it interacts with to to get all your
information away from these well no no no to well to get my information off of google or get like
get all this stuff cleaned up almost it's like the eggs already kind of been cracked there, right?
But you can go and they'll let you download
it in the same way. Actually, one of the
if anybody here has been using OpenAI,
here's an experiment for you to do today.
Just like open it up after this show and
just say, tell me what you know about me.
And you're going to be shocked at how
much it knows about you. You're going to be like, oh, fuck.
Really? It's like, you know, I got
four kids, you know, like watch just it's kind kind of scary but the nice thing is you can export that data and you'll be
able to drop that directly into so so like we have a thing called canvas which is almost like a drawer
that opens up and it's an infinite canvas and so like for me like i said my background is mostly
on the marketing comm side so i have like all these like heroes of mine like david ogilvy and
claude hopkins and lee cloud all these people i've gathered all the writings. And so I open up
the canvas. I start a new chat. I open up the canvas. I dump all those documents in there.
And then I close the, I pretty much close the canvas. And now I'm just talking to those people.
Right. And so what you can do is you can export all your data from like OpenAI and Google,
drop that into a canvas. And in essence, you're taking that brain with you over to this new space yeah bro i just asked chat gbt what do
you know about me what did say well okay don't tell me but was it wow but it it it was in depth
i never really ask it anything about like personal stuff that i do but it's considering around what i talk about
with it within web 3 it is but the best thing of all the files on your computer
holy shit that's what you get this is wild if you're using google and you're giving it access
full access and opening i've given it full access that's what that looks like is like
everything you look at on the internet keys healthcare you name
it that's this is insane yeah i didn't realize this but it did know about the tickers you launched
no no it doesn't say nothing about that but it did say you created something involving uh
cheeses cheese plus jesus energy so i don't know what the hell that was about but yeah uh but yeah that's man that's pretty wild um
so so jesse so my assumption is so obviously you know you guys launched you could have done this
um anywhere but obviously the integration of ai and crypto is fascinating to me personally i think
you know those two worlds like interacting because of the decentralization is that the main drive of why
you guys went the crypto route or the cryptocurrency here's why crypto makes sense okay so the native
currency of agents is going to be crypto right your agents can't kyc right so right so and would
you rather have it a wallet set up like so say jesus you go like, I want my agent to go out and do some trading for me or whatever.
I'm going to put 500 bucks in this wallet.
Let's see what it can do.
Or do you want to give it access to every one of your fucking bank accounts?
Right?
Right.
And so also agents like you're read like Lord of the Rings.
Here's some real geek shit.
Geeky shit.
Right?
Well, like in Lord of the Rings, like the trees have different time than humans because trees live so long. Right. Almost like how your dog, it's like for a day,
it's been a week for them. Our agents are going to be so fast and so smart that if we're like,
hey, go do this transaction for me. In the time that we, we like think about the question,
it could have done it a hundred times. Now, traditional banking
rails is just not built for that kind of velocity. So here's another, I guess Peter Thiel always
asks what your unpopular belief is. My unpopular belief is the majority of the transactions in the
next three to four years are not going to be human made. They're going to be agent to agent
transactions. Because if Jesus and I are like, I'm like, Hey, make sure you send that Jesus, that five bucks I owe or whatever.
I'm talking to an agent, that agent pays Jesus's agent. Jesus's agent says, Hey Jesus, you just
got five bucks from Jesse. Right. You see what I'm saying? So when we're starting to do these
constant transactions from agent to agent, because each one of us, you know, if there's one of us,
we'll probably have hundreds, if not thousands of agents each.
And so where are those, where are those agents going to transact?
They're going to transact on the blockchain because you need to have receipts.
You're going to want to know what your agent is doing, right?
But also the velocity of crypto, you just can't, the traditional banking rails and stuff
just aren't, it's just not equipped to do it.
So a couple of things, number one, we didn't ever want to
see your data, so that's why Web3 made sense
to us. We knew
that the long term, our belief is
that open source always wins.
Right?
We wanted to make sure that we were thinking about
the future and how agents are going to transact.
It's
so clear that it's on chain.
It's just like, well, just do it there yeah i got a i got a question for you is there
might depend on what your agent is doing might be the answer but is there an ideal i mean when
it comes to you know decentralization and security of say ethereum versus you know TPS, low gas fees on Sol.
Is there a blockchain that's more ideal
for this network of agents technically?
We're about to launch,
we're about to announce our blockchain partner
because the mint's on Ethereum,
but we have a blockchain partner
because there's gonna be so many transactions for agents.
So more on that next week.
We are... So maybe without naming a specific blockchain.
I can tell you like stuff that we care about
is that it's decentralized.
Awesome.
That's a good answer.
I like that.
Because if, you know, ultimately it's like
if you can shut down your blockchain,
it's not decentralized.
You know what I mean?
Like if you could take it down for maintenance yeah right it's not exactly yeah yeah
so we think about stuff like that and we take that stuff pretty seriously yeah the and it's funny you
said the amount of transactions uh and now this this may start running us into the the the thing
you know the the token itself and all that stuff and if we
you know if we're rushing ahead then we can slow that roll but the the transactions you don't want
the front end user like having to know about metamask or that's right all these things so
essentially there's going to be a wallet connected somewhere here the agent has its own wallet okay
um so like these transactions in the backend,
who covers the cost of the transactions? Well, that's why we're going with a partner where the
transaction costs are extraordinarily low, right? Okay. And if you're doing the cool thing about
the think agents is like, let's say you needed to use Morpheus is, you know, super agent,
it would just transact and think and pay morpheus for you
with your think tokens so it becomes the currency that enter to agent currency in the uh ecosystem
so like okay so it's using your think balance to do that yeah yeah exactly that's right so that's
why really next week's mint is almost more like a pre-sale of tokens where you get an account, right? Which is an agent. And think about an agent as almost like you're securing an account, right? And so your agent has its own wallet and all that kind of stuff. But you're also getting a bucket of Think tokens with it so that you not only have the agent, but you have the kind of the tokens your agent needs to, you know, do stuff, right? Depending on what you want to do. And, and the cool thing is we also have a deal with Venice too.
So you're going to have Venice built in from day one.
So you'll also get a Venice plan.
Can you, can you briefly discard like Venice?
What is Venice?
Cause I don't know what Venice is.
It's Eric Voorhees.
If anybody knows Eric Voorhees, super well-known OG in the space.
And so what he was worried about was like, so imagine chat GPT,
but they don't actually store any of your data. So it's all, you can't tell anybody's asking.
Right. We're all on the, it's again, everybody in our community is very much
kind of going in the same direction. So like right now, if you go to Venice, it's actually
awesome because they always just, I mean, they update constantly, really solid team.
And think almost like a chat GPT replacement where you can custody, where they never actually see your data or information.
So it's all anonymous.
Yeah, Venice was launched on base, right?
Didn't he launch that on base, if I remember correct?
And I remember it got listed on Coinbase like relatively quickly well within 24 hours eric is like a big deal in the space and so
it's like that's how he was able to get everything done so fast yeah that was amazing i mean like i
was i was shocked when it was like literally listed on coinbase within the first 24 hours
yeah yeah uh which is pretty good no but i think venice is great um great
product and it's free too so that's another thing if anybody's just going i want to have access to
intelligence i don't have the funds it's like go use venice there's a free account and if you want
to do some of the crazier stuff like use larger models and stuff if i think it's like if you
stake like i already did this but um if you stake like 100 venice or something like that you get
like lifetime access to their pro features you know know, which when I bought it, when I think when I bought the,
you know, the Venice token, it was like, whatever, 200 bucks or something like that. And now I have
lifetime pro membership to Venice. It's like, oh, or I could pay 50 bucks a month to open AI.
You know what I mean? And also you still have your tokens and they're staked and they're also
getting, you're also earning on top of them. so there's stuff like that there like venice that we
look at and we go like this is awesome let's make sure our agents have access and so we got together
and we put a deal together where everybody's going to get access to uh venice right out of the gate
as well one stop and that'll be the lifetime of owning your agent as well uh yeah so like if you have
if you get the agent and the think tokens you just put those tokens inside of the agent's wallet and
it's like cool it has what it needs and you know if you're some crazy power user or something i
don't know but for most people it's like cool go build whatever you want right so i noticed y'all
y'all also you mentioned earlier as well but uh partnered with uh render
which yeah yeah i think they're awesome oh gee they're they're such an og and like people are
just like not bullish enough on render in my yeah yeah and they're great and so trevor and the team
over at render is awesome like i said um our ceo was at render con yesterday i actually posted a
video of him demoing the Souls platform on my Twitter,
if you want to post it up for anybody who wants to kind of get an idea of how
Souls is coming together.
There's also an Easter egg in there if you're paying attention,
as far as who our announcement is next week.
But yeah, like the Render team is awesome.
They're really committed to decentralization.
And we're working with them on future plans of how do we make, how do we allow our users to leverage the infrastructure of render to do really cool stuff.
Yeah, I seen that post and I'm, oh, there it is.
All right.
Okay.
I got it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's Mike up there demoing.
Like I said, our, and the cool thing is because we did like the think protocol, almost think that almost like this operating system standard, right? Yeah. We're going to have several things that come out
over time, but the first one is going to be souls. But the cool thing is anybody can build on top of
the think standards as well. If you've got a better idea, like let's go for it. Hold on. So
say that again. So you said the, the, the first agent coming out of souls, but you said there's
other ones in the future.
Yeah. Yeah. So think is just a standard. It's a standard that allows everything to talk to each other, almost like a theory.
It's a standard, right, that allows all these agents to interact with each other.
And then in order for us to show you what's possible, we're building souls so that you can have your own agent and use it almost like I said, like man is type of an experience.
You can have your own agent and use it almost like I said, like Manus type of an experience.
But because we built the standard, we have all sorts of partners that are also going to build other cool shit on top of Think that will also be used.
You'll need the Think token for as well.
So it's not, I guess what I'm saying is Souls isn't the only thing that we're doing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But in that, I mean, obviously you want to own the OG Genesis, whatever of any collection or any brand or, you know, this is, you know, I think I heard Mikey saying that.
And I think he was talking about souls here was like souls is like going back into, you know, the 17, 18 hundreds and claiming your stake of land that's right so so we have a thing coming
out called think tank which you know i think it's july it'll be coming out so imagine if like
jesus you built an agent for i don't know helping people social media whatever right well it's going
to be similar to what luca did with abstract where you'll be able to put that agent out there for other people to use and
you can monetize it. Right. And so that agent can have its own token. And so what we're going to be
doing is when people launch those, they can opt into the think tank, which allows them to, in
essence, give some of their token supply of their agent back to the community and, you know, from a
marketing perspective. And so if you have the OG kind of soul agent you will be able to stake not only to get more think but you'll also be able to
stake uh to the um to this pool the agent that i did exactly to the think pool to the think pool
and earn like almost like a basket of all the other agents that are launching, which is cool because all those other agents give token to the think tank.
Exactly.
Okay.
If they want to.
And so we will,
we'll do things like platform them,
put them on our podcast and all that kind of stuff.
But the cooler thing about it is if you're in the community and let's say I
got Jesus's agents token,
well now I can use her agent for free.
Right.
And so it'll be kind of cool.
Cause if you stake,
you're not only getting think,
but you start to get this basket of the whole ecosystem.
And our goal there is just so that you could just keep using everything
without having to worry about it. Yeah. So if I build an app,
but I mean your tokens, you could sell them or whatever you want to.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I build an app, it's a creator app and it,
it streamlines people, creators to be able to write threads uh um gives them i guess like
prompts and whatever for uh working with ever you know video editing all these different tools
within the app uh and then a token there i would just get with you guys yeah yeah oh wow yeah so
you publish that agent so this is the stuff we haven't even talked about yet it's almost like
we're launching the first app store and we're like, and you know, you can also launch your own stuff, right? You know what I'm saying? Like you can monetize it.
So there's going to be an app store within there.
Well, it's all behind the scenes, right? So it's only agents can see it. So you'll be able to go. There's going to be like, we're going to have like a spot where you can see up and coming agents if you want to test them out. But the cool thing is your agent just
goes and finds them for you. So if you're like, I'm looking for help with this creator stuff,
it'll go, Oh, Jesus has, here's a review of Jesus's agent. Should we try it? And it costs
you two, whatever cheese to use it. Right. And it's like, yeah, sure. Let's try it. And if I
like it and all of a sudden you just have a creator dashboard where you can go in and see,
Oh wow, this many people use my agent.
I've made this much, you know,
my token is whatever, this much token.
So here's my question.
So do I just, because I don't know how to build,
I don't know how to build this stuff.
So do I just go to Venice and like start getting the work?
So like I said, the one that I'm building,
it's the easiest way to build one is, like I said,
and I have all of a demo.
It's like we're shooting a podcast tomorrow
where we're going to be demoing some of this stuff.
And so I'll tag you in it if you want to take a look at it.
But like the easiest way to do it
is start to gather all the information you need.
Almost like you have to build almost like it's knowledge base.
Right?
Okay.
And so like I said, for me,
I have all these like PDFs and documents and videos and
stuff of all these creative marketers that I've admired for the last, you know, however many years
I dump all that into my canvas, this drawer, just dragging PDFs in. Right. And then I shut the
drawer and now that's the base knowledge for the agent that I'm building. So like I'm doing that.
And I don't know, I'm not an engineer. I don't know how to code, but I'm building so like i'm doing that and i don't know i'm not an
engineer i don't know how to code but i'm just like i'm almost like populating its brain and
then giving it directives and then teaching it over time and then if it gets good enough i'll
probably just open source mine and just be like hey anybody can use this for creative marketing
right yeah yeah yeah when you could charge for it when i could yeah yeah yeah yeah because what
we don't want to do
is like it's like you're unique what you're an algorithm right so like everyone it's like you've
survived a bunch of things to get here today and that's turned into your kind of survival mechanism
your survival algorithm and so you're going to see the world in a really unique way and it's like man
if you can crystallize that and give other people access it's almost like turning your past experiences into a consultant that can go
work on your behalf. Yeah. Cause I have ideas all the time. I just don't know how to put them into
motion. Exactly. So Steve jobs is like, he always used to say that his goal was to build computers
for mere mortals. We're trying to build independent agents for mere mortals. Like, it's like, what do
I do? It's like, go in there and talk to it give it the files right like we're trying to make it as simple as possible because if you're an
engineer you can go out right now and start running all these mcps and even connect them together but
if you're not an engineer like most of us you're just going oh fuck man can i just log in and use
the tool right and so that's what we're building is we're building that kind of on-ramp to the
agentic web that's so dope bro and i'd be able to do this if i owned a souls nft yeah yeah just think about the
nft is like that's like saying like oh so i can use i can use gmail if i have a google account
it's like yeah so your nft is just your account and that gives you access to an agent and that
agent has its own wallet and then the cool thing is day one. So the way the Mint works is the first person to Mint, it's just an open 24-hour Mint.
The first person to Mint, they get like 5,000 Think tokens, which at $100 million FDV is like 500 bucks.
So it's more than the cost of the Mint right now, right?
And then everybody who Mints after that, like the next person that Mints gets whatever, 4,999.
It goes by down,
down until the thresholds that I think around 2000 think, right? And so the sooner you,
sooner you mint an agent, the more think you have, which is what you're going to need for
the platform. And it also, it auto stakes your think. So between now and TGE, which we're going
for next month, you'll be earning rewards you know and then at TGU you'll
get your tokens and you can decide if you want to give them back to your agent to use or if you want
to sell them or it's your token yeah well I mean eventually you're going to need if you're using
the agent you're going to need the token to interact with the other it's right magic eden
is our partner on this and I was you know when we're talking to magic eden about it it's like
think about it like a bundle it's like an agent bundle like yes you could take the tokens and
sell them but you're gonna want the tokens if you want to do anything really crazy right the nice
thing is if you just want to use the baseline stuff venice and just it's like dude you'll be
able to use that for free but if you want to do some of the crazier stuff you're talking about
it's like oh you'll need tokens because you're gonna need more agents and things like that
yeah because if i'm building this thing it might have to go talk to
50 different agents to help me build what i'm trying to build that's right and you already
have tokens now yeah and incorporate everything in there so that's that's i like it so this might be
a dumb question but so is there going to be a secondary market for these agents and if so
like if i were to sell an agent would it wipe my info
off of that agent and like how it depends on how you store your data it depends on how you store
your data um we're working on a blockchain solution for memories right which is like
storing agent memories to the to an l3 which more information on that later if your agent is
attached to that it's like dude don't sell that you it's attached to the fucking blockchain with all of your information on it um right but if you're
just like if you're just speculating you're like i'm gonna buy a couple of agents right um because
i think when people start to see what we're building at souls people are going to want to
have access to it like as fast as possible and there's the only way you're going to get access
to it is to have one of
these right for the, for the foreseeable future. Like,
cause we really want a small like beta group to help us make this thing
awesome before we go like bigger and bigger and bigger.
And in the future you'll be able to go in and just like buy an account for
whatever 50 bucks,
but you're going to have to go out on secondary and buy the thing in order
to run it. Whereas on this minute,
you kind of get all of it at one time and you're just kind of, you're just ready to go.
Now, if you meant one of these and you have one of the souls and there's, there's future agents or whatever other products that come, will this give you some, some advantage in the future for future products?
advantage in the future for future products that come so it's a think agent it's not a soul like
So it's a think agent.
It's not a soul.
so what i mean by that is like you get to use your think agent on the souls platform but if venice or
let's say somebody built something awesome on top of think that comes out in six months you'll log
in with that same account right so as long as it's using the think standard you'll be able to
use it on souls or anywhere anything else that's built over time it's the same account so that way your agent can kind of navigate whatever ends up happening um
out of the whole ecosystem same same one right well there'd be uh yeah yeah yeah will there be
a way for um users because we're starting to see this a lot to where if I don't hold think,
because like how does a person,
I would assume they just use like a credit card or whatever,
a normal person that's not really in web three,
but they like the AI side of it.
But even someone in web three say,
I only have a certain token in my wallet.
They only have soul like actual Solana in my wallet.
Yeah.
Like, is it going to eventually be able to pull like money from these other things as soon as somebody get
has an mcp so like uh the team at wire they can do like no gas like super low cost like swaps
as soon as they add their mcp they're one of our partners all of a sudden you can be like hey uh
use wire to swap sold to think for this transaction and
it will just do it for you right but we're just waiting on their mcp um but as soon as like you
know i don't know does uniswap have an mcp yet if they do we could integrate that and then you
can just do it all inside of the platform yeah i don't think they do uh now all i'm gonna be
looking at is who has an mcp yeah right right
and it's almost like in the future it's gonna be funny it'll almost be like saying oh you don't
have a website you know yeah oh oh agents can't find you on the internet well that's not smart
when when my daughter was a i want to say the end of her sophomore year they were having such a
problem in high school uh the teachers were because kids were
just chat gbt and everything yep of course now they now they're integrating chat gbt into their
daily schedule of like work like so yeah and i'm like how are you getting all this done so quick
because they never have homework yeah yeah and i'm like and she's like well we're allowed to use
chat gbt at school at least they're but i'm like i remember the fucking teachers making me learn
the dewey decimal system like yes exactly that shit like come on dude and that's right when the
internet was new like it was clear that we weren't going to use that you know oh yeah i posted
yesterday an old article about how teachers were trying to ban calculators back in the day
yes for the same reason it's like my kids school the same thing you know i work at ai and
i go to their school and i'm like what's your plan for ai and they're like oh we're you know
we're making sure the kids don't get their hands on that i'm like have you lost your fucking mind
like teach them this stuff yeah yeah it's like it's like saying they can't have access to the
internet and you're like okay cool so what So what is your plan for like their career, right?
If they don't understand how this shit works.
Because there's about to be two kinds of people, right?
There's going to be people that have like a deep understanding of AI.
And they're going to run 100 miles an hour.
And there's going to be everyone else, right?
Yeah.
And you don't want to be in that second bucket.
Because, you know, if you're worried about losing your job now well one person
with like a decent understanding of ai can do the work i mean even shit even like the agency i used
to have at one point where over 60 people at the agency i can get more done now with a team of three
or four people in my agents yeah so i seen i seen luca post because when the did you see the the the uh trailer for
what was it uh it was um somebody redid the trailer in ghibli mode it was um it wasn't it
was lord of the rings oh yeah yeah it looked really good yeah so um uh luca actually quote
tweeted that and said i'm looking to hire someone mid six like six
figure job yep right now that can do this for me and make content luca's always and with that shit
yeah when i seen that and i'm talking to my daughter later that night about what she's doing
because she's graduating high school yep and she's like i want to take a year off and all this crap. And I'm like, no, we're not doing that.
But like she, she plays a regular web two games with all of her friends.
And I'm like trying to introduce her to off the grid and all these different things.
I'm like, look, you can play web three games.
You and your crew can make money.
You guys are good.
Like I'm trying to introduce her to these things because when I would have early conversations
with chat GPT and show in my nieces and nephews and everybody like, look, this is how quick you
can get an answer to something. They were like, so against using AI and they're like, no, we're
not using that. And now it's like, it's a, it's a regular conversation when we go to eat as a group
or something like that, it it is kind of
taken over uh quite a bit of stuff i mean jesus like so i got my wife and we have four kids my
oldest is 17 and we've stopped talking about college dude yeah because what the fuck like
okay cool what are you gonna go learn about right yeah? Yeah. I mean, we're, we're,
some people think we have AGI already at the very least in the next three years,
we're going to have super intelligence. Right. So what are you going to go memorize?
Yeah. Like right now, if you want to go to college because it's great, you know,
you get friendship and all that. It's like, okay, cool. That makes sense to me.
But if you want to go so that you could be like
i don't know a technician or something it's like well it can already uh you know scan the human
body and find cancer better than any other human can like and by the way it's 40x every six months
okay you know i'll tell you this jesse i didn't go to college i i i work in production so yeah but
i'll still just a steel man college, right?
There is still something to be said for learning how to problem solve
and think through problems.
I mean, you can put all the tools in front of someone,
and if they don't even know how to think about the problem,
they're never going to figure out how to use the tools.
I would say do it because you love it.
It's like one of my kids, she's a painter, and I'm like,
she's like, oh, but I mean, AI's going to do this. But it's like, yeah, but if you enjoy it, you should do it because you love it. Like, it's like, like, you know, one of my, my kids, she's a painter and I'm like, she's like, Oh, but I mean, AI is going to do this. It's like, yeah, but if you enjoy it, you should do it. But to me, the stuff that's really like smart to go into right
now is like being electric. Like when I was a kid, it was like, be a doctor, be a lawyer. Right.
Now it's like being electrician, be a plumber. Like, cause until robotics really hit their stride,
right. You can just print print like so if you're
looking for like hey how do i kickstart my life but if if you're trying to go in for any job that
use your brain for it's going to get harder and harder like i'll say that it's so funny because
it's only like 10 maybe 5 10 years ago yeah i would have told you to learn how to code oh yeah
because of how important that was and now AI is just completely negated
that as like a real career path. And I'm in Seattle and the amount of friends that I've had,
Starbucks just did a massive amount of layoffs. My brother-in-law actually was caught up in it
of their engineering team. Microsoft's cutting people like crazy. Amazon's cutting people like
crazy because they're all sitting there going like, we already. So for instance, like if Microsoft
has access to your team's information and your emails, that data set, I can approximate, let's say within 10, I don't know, probably better than this, but say 10% of how you would make a decision.
Well, I've already copied your algorithm, so what do I need you for?
Right?
And then all of a sudden, then you go like, wow, how were they able to just, you know, lay off 10,000 people?
It's like, dude, they already copied them.
And it can evolve the algorithm way faster than anyone else can.
Exactly.
So don't give them your algorithm.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, exactly.
Keep your shit proprietary to yourself.
Exactly.
So like my sister, she works for GE.
She probably about a year and a half ago had over 500 employees under her, uh, between several locations.
And we were having this conversation just the other day at my daughter's,
my niece's birthday.
She's now down to 10 like physical employees per warehouse.
She said they have probably on the floor at most four people on staff because
AI is keeping inventory.
It's, it's doing it so much better then they incorporated like robotics in there to do the picking and the ship and like stacking and
everything so they've while they they spent a lot of money to bring in this this um you know to bring
in the the machines and bring in to get the software overall,
like the amount of money they're going to save through a length of time is
just millions and millions of dollars that G's doing.
And they're one of the beta like areas that's testing this.
And they're about to implement this all over the world.
So you're about to see thousands of people unemployed.
Yep.
And so is that going to fight more people away from ai and the integration of ai or is it
you're just not gonna be able to stop it right yeah i here's what i'll tell you um my mentor i
was talking to him about ai and why people are so hesitant about it and he just looked at me and he
said well no one wants to die and i was like oh fuck that's such a good way of saying it like
like if you've made your living off of making horses and buggies, right? And somebody comes in and they're like, hey, man, that's a wrap on horses and buggies. Are you going to say like, okay, I'm fine with that? Because you have the two choices, either change or die, right? And there'll be people that change and just go like, okay, cool. Instead of selling horse and buggies, I'm going to learn about these new things called cars. And then other people are going to just like not change. And you're like, well, what do you think is going to happen?
Right. Because my nephew is interns with us. He's 21. He was up at the Everett, Washington
package sorting for Amazon. And he's like, in the last year, he's like the amount of machines that
have come in. Right. And he's like, it's like on a daily basis, we just see less and less people,
more and more machines. And so he finally just quit. And now he's, he's going all in on AI because he's like, I could see it happening right in front of my eyes.
I was like, well, I'm glad you're not going to wait. Right. It's like evolve or die is kind of how things are going to work.
And this is why they talk about basic income and all that shit is going to happen. It has to.
Yeah. Just wait till the drones start
doing delivery exactly that's right bro they're already doing it my brother's
they're already doing it in my brother's neighborhood um they're dropping yeah they're
dropping stuff around i'm like what drives me to work from from doorstop to office every day
right completely uncertain like we're there it's the whole thing is like the future's
already here, but it's just not evenly distributed yet. Right. And I think all these conversations
like we're having right now in web three, normal people are going to start catching onto this in
the next maybe year. They're going to start to go like, why does man, AI knows everything about me.
Right. Like people will start getting locked out of their accounts and they're going to start going,
but my whole life was inside of there. Like all these things we're talking about are going to start to get very real.
And so I guess the big thing is, and I'm sorry, I got a hard out guys at nine, but like,
the big thing is, is like, just be super careful. Like one of the things we always say is like,
don't sell your soul. Like when I say that, like you're training your unique algorithm,
every person is a unique algorithm. And when you give all that information to the Googles and open
AIs of the world, you're kind of taking your unique kind of algorithm and you're giving it away and it's like
don't sell that part of you right like yeah hold on to the uniqueness of yourself at the very least
like use tools like venice and things like that so that you're not being monitored is another one
um but yeah man i appreciate you guys having me up here i'm happy to come back another time i need
to change all this yeah yeah it was such a great conversation oh my god yeah i have so many other
yeah it was i have so many other questions a lot more just as these two but i've been
basically just listening and enjoying this i've got several people in the in the um in the abstract
stream saying this is a great great uh great conversation um all right so hey i do have one
quick question i know you got to run.
Where do you think Steve Jobs would be on the AI from?
Oh, my God.
He called it, bro.
He fucking Google it.
Steve Jobs.
Okay.
So he's like my hero.
Like, I mean, Steve Jobs is like, I'm super dyslexic.
Jobs is super dyslexic.
Like everything he does makes sense to me.
Right.
And Google Steve Jobs talking about AI.
And he's got to be in his early maybe mid-20s
and he's at a dinner and he's explaining that someday you're gonna be able to sit down with
socrates right through the power of ai you're gonna be able to sit down with socrates and have
a conversation with socrates and everybody's at this like like this party or whatever he's talking
and they're all just like wow that's crazy and you listen to what he says 30 some
odd years ago right yeah he fucking nailed it so where where right now apple doesn't even have an
ai play i know imagine where apple would be if steve jobs was still around he didn't just see
it coming he was talking about it openly about what's going to happen he was calling his shot
30 no old more than that 40 some odd years ago, at least.
It's crazy.
Like, it's crazy.
Like, maybe 35, 30 years, something like that.
But if you go watch it and watch how he explains how computers are going to be able to pretty much bring people back to life.
Well, right now, if you haven't done this yet, there's some really good models out there where you can sit down and talk to, like, Einstein.
Or it's all been trained on just their information.
And, dude, it's crazy good. It's good so that's that is insane i am very confident that steve would
have seen this a long a long way off and apple would be in a completely different position right
now yeah yeah but my daughter didn't even know steve jobs was and i was like i said he's in your
hand essentially but not really um but yeah oh's the same player that Siri has not gotten
any better since Steve um highly recommend Steve they took a book when he died if you can find a
copy they're really hard to find and they're super expensive but it's called make something
wonderful you can go to his foundation and you can download it for free a PDF it is there's so
much gold in there it's wild so yeah free yeah. Free to PDF. Check it out.
Wish Steve jobs was still alive. Yeah. Um, all right guys, make sure you follow in Jesse. Make
sure you follow think mint date is April 22nd. Love to have you guys back on beforehand. Um,
I know you're going to be on a bunch of other spaces. Uh, I put a reminder up there at the
top, a tweet for Von doom space. Um, I think that's tomorrow.
Mikey's going to be in there.
Felix is going to be there.
Um, but mint date, April 22nd, open mint 24 hours.
Go check it out.
Uh, you definitely, uh, educated me on, yeah, this is pretty exciting stuff.
So yeah, we appreciate you coming in.
Appreciate you guys.
Have a great day.
Yeah, man. Thank you so much. Um, much um bro i am fucking smarter do you understand me
kenny i i heard you get smarter on this i am i am a smart guy now i'm gonna get i'm gonna get
i'm gonna build a uh what he said proliferate and didn't stutter earlier, Danny? I was like, holy fuck, dude. Jesus is leveled up today.
I am leveling up. Shit.
I forgot to ask about how to
get a job with
them. I have
two people asking, how do they
get a job or a startup job
in AI? The only thing I
would have asked, had we had more
time, because I just
was looking at the mint prices wait for an open
edition that's 0.27 it's like five 550 bucks it's a pretty good chunk of change it is a good chunk
of change i mean obviously you know if you're fucking if you're capable of using these tools
effectively you know you know it'll pay for itself but i have but like
knows how many times over but i but bro i genuinely have an idea of like creating a full creator suite
of like all these different things that i use daily instead of me going and paying for
20 different fucking things that i pay for and somebody can just get all those things in one place.
Like, and if I could build that or do that through this souls thing and like, that could be pretty, that could be something I could fucking do.
Um, I'm actually going to look into trying to make it happen.
Um, I don't have fucking 0.2 70.
I don't know where I'm going to get it from, but it's pretty interesting.
I'm at the Rob Juice.
Juice, sell your nut bags so I can get some fucking ETHers together here.
Yo, that was a good call.
I enjoyed it.
It was good, right?
Yeah, it was good.
Yeah, I knew it was good because Juice wasn't messaging me saying, bro, bro, bro.
But no, it was was it was good um i did have a lot of other questions you know i was actually like this was one of the few uh like
interviews that i was kind of a little bit nervous on because it's like i don't know enough about
ai um and i think a lot of us don't and what these agents actually can do and um you know
just having these conversations though is it's one of my least well-versed uh corners of web3
yeah personally because dude i mean like i'm not a builder right i'm just a shit talker i'm just
an idiot here on twitter yeah i'm mostly observing like social trends on nft projects and coins and shit
so exactly it's a very interesting subject though nonetheless yeah well let's get you
0.27 eth bro you can create a fucking app that teaches people how to be a shit talking
uh big brain you know smooth talking appalachian thing about me you can't teach this brother
you can't fucking bullshit
i'm gonna create it then i'm gonna say i need you to emulate fucking uh an idiot um yeah but
anyways all right cool uh enough of all that um where are we at markets up markets down market
sideways things are looking good there um bro like hey p you're gonna let him
fuck up your market that's the market that's the market report uh that's exactly what you're
getting um i don't know kenny do you have any top stories that has dropped today that um that
i like maybe you want to talk about like because i haven't seen i haven't really looked i've been
just doing a lot of stuff with things probably the biggest news uh out of today was the launch labs went live you
know the pump fun competitor oh yeah yeah um that's probably the biggest kind of web three
news out there it was relatively quiet over the past 24 hours nothing too crazy obviously
the tariff shit going on china you know trying to ban all postal services to the United States.
So the news was fake, right?
The news was fake about the 245% tariff.
Yeah, I don't I don't think that was real.
I know that they are aggressively, you know, trying like they they basically put a ban, not a ban, but they said China is not accepting any more Boeing airplanes coming in, you know, to use their aggressive, you know, buying quite a bit of Boeing stuff.
And then they came out last night and said they're stopping postal services
to the United States.
They're getting more aggressive trying to bring
Trump to the negotiation
table so they can hash it all out.
But it's kind of like a Mexican
standoff right now where they're both just kind of
not moving and just like
who's going to break first
situation.
It's obviously affecting the traditional markets.
You know, looking at the stock market, Dow Jones is down 180, NASDAQ down 341.
Tech sector is getting ripped.
And then S&P down 61.
So on the flip side, though, Bitcoin is green on the day, backed up over 85.
Gold is up.
You know, the crypto is bouncing right now so regardless uh you know regardless
of the traditional uh tradify market conditions uh looks like you know crypto's bouncing here we'll
see if this is sustainable or not but bitcoin just cracked 85 000 so it is green on the day
um we'll see what happens as the day plays out yeah so i'm sorry so I'm seeing a bunch of stuff.
This is from several different people,
but I just looked it up.
Twitter announced that DMs will be removed soon.
They didn't announce it.
I was actually just pin something from this. So this is coming from a screenshot of this.
Zach Warnick?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he left a comment on somebody, and I want to find the original conversation.
But he said, no, not like requests.
Somebody said something like request messages are going to go away.
And he said, no, not like request messages, but like the whole entire DMS will be gone soon.
Now, Facebook did this a long time ago.
They made Messenger a completely separate ad.
So I seen a community note here from another guy named Ellis,
who works at Twitter.
He has an affiliate badge.
He said it's a rewrite, not getting rid of the feature.
So DMs are not, according to this guy,
until I see Elon Musk say dms aren't going
anywhere i'm just gonna keep dm something official from the x account itself yeah yeah exactly my
impression of that because i've seen it on the timeline a few times is that people are definitely
uh overblowing that uh that particular comment um yeah i i don't know i'm not particularly
worried about it but i do expect to see people uh engagement farm on it all day so yeah i i don't know i'm not particularly worried about it but i do expect to see people
uh engagement farm on it all day so yeah i'm glad we got ours in yeah um all right uh what else here
let me share this uh multiplier oh good i was gonna say the only other thing that i pinned
uh that i noticed this morning was the uh radium launch lab thing i believe
goes live today that's what kenny just talked about oh did he sorry yeah blacked out yeah
yeah that was like cheese on you now that was the very that was the very first thing
uh that he had talked about but uh multiplier multiplierier has just introduced. Meme to earn is now live.
Post your wins.
Post a meme about Multiplier.
Get airdrop Ticker Mint every week.
Ticker Mint allows for free plays,
allowing you to farm XP for free.
So there's more brands on Abstract that are giving you back ways
to either play for free or earn or whatnot.
But yesterday, bro, was XP.
And there were people that were playing Cambria and fucking big.
And bro, these guys cooked on XP.
I seen one guy had 137,000 XP for the week.
Wow.
Let me see what Greeny...
What did Greeny...
Yeah, what did Greeny have?
I know Greeny was pretty big on it.
I don't know if he actually shared.
He's weird about how he shares his fucking XP reveal.
Because he wants to do it live during stream.
Oh, he only got 52,000.
I think the play was Cambria.
And I think that's going to be the play.
So Cambria announced
for anybody that is, I haven't played it
yet. I do want to get into it.
Where in the fuck is
it? Oh, play Cambria.
Here we go. Play Cambria announced
that they are doing
a reward system as well.
Goddamn, why did it go so far down on Twitter?
So they announced the deal to where you're going to be able to earn tokens
by, I think, sharing the content during season two.
I'm trying to get to the fucking tweet.
Jesus, these people retweet the fuck out of shit.
But yeah, bro, this game is like,
there's like 4,000 people online at all times,
which is wild.
So yeah, over $1 million in prizes
is what they're giving out,
which to my knowledge was worth like
they're giving away, as of yesterday
it was like $800,000, I guess it's up to
a fucking million dollars, I can't find
the actual fucking tweet, I need to find it
for you
but they're doing it
is it time for us to sell our ships and become
Cambria Maxis?
wait, are you about to walk the plank on your own ship, bro?
Yeah, I know.
I know.
But yeah, they're kicking off season two.
There's a big, it's just a lot of rewards coming.
I'll try and find the tweet and quote tweet it.
But yeah, they...
Is Cambria out of curiosity?
What is what?
What type of game is it?
It's a MMO is what they're describing.
It's like an MMORPG kind of thing, but not in like a...
It's a risk.
I don't know for sure.
Someone could correct me if I'm wrong,
but it definitely appears to be like a Super Nintendo era style top-down walk-around.
It's definitely a top-down walk-around.
They describe themselves.
Cambria is a risk. top-down walk around they describe themselves cambria is a risk
is a is a cambria is a risk to earn go to town yeah cambria god damn it let me tell you
cambria is a risk to earn mmo with massive on-chain stakes um i know i've seen tweets bro
like the first like 24 hours or something they
had like almost a million dollars in volume um what would you compare hold on let me just go
ask i don't fucking know bro go ask fucking chat gpt get your agent to go fucking figure it out for
you i have the slightest fucking clue um yeah i don't know what it would be compared to i mean
it it's definitely a top-down game and
you're running around looks like you're battling motherfuckers collecting shit and you're cambrian
it up uh stones came up here the other day and was uh talking about it so yeah uh pretty good
stuff um today today fucking today i hope we see an announcement of what we're doing on the playground.
I just, it will blow my mind.
I was talking to another guy this morning who is over marketing for another brand.
And he said that if it was, if he was in charge, it would have been released on Monday, showing people what currency you're going to need,
showing people some of the mechanics,
or slowly releasing all of the alpha up through that day
or on launch on Thursday,
or he would have just released it all on Monday.
So then the community could have spent time speculating,
tweeting about it, pumping things up.
Hold on, no, we haven't spent time speculating on it.
We have.
It's been like the center of every conversation
that I've had with you all week.
I understand, but we have been speculating on it.
Creeps holders have been speculating on it.
We need the masses talking about it,
and hopefully we see it we don't
have confirmation that it's not just going to be available to creeps i'm not making any assumptions
about this until i get the information don't get me wrong i'm here to speculate all day but i'm not
going to assume to be right about anything if this is only for creeps i'll i will literally
you'll click the buttons i'm not right no i'm not you'll do no no no no i'm gonna i'm gonna put all the
creeps i have on loan motherfuckers can come by them like right around the price where they're at
like just fucking just fucking stick the dagger in me some more there's no way this is just for
fucking creeps yeah it's just you don't know that you can say that but you don't know that i'm not
saying i think it is let me be clear i'm not saying that I think this is just for creeps.
What I'm saying is that there is not enough clarity on this yet
to be making any assumptions about what information will or won't be relevant or to whom.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't know.
I hope we get a bunch of info today i mean we know it we know it kicks
off tomorrow today would be a great day to give everybody the info so everybody can prepare uh to
be locked in and click some buttons tomorrow um yeah because when you go to the playground when
you go to the actual tab for playground this has nothing on here except the creep and the DMT coin stacked on top of each other.
Shows me anything that they've not said about the playground.
Maybe the merch.
Because there'll probably be prizes of whatever merch is coming.
So the playground is on the website?
Yeah, like there's a playground tab.
There's games, IP, coin, and playground.
But when you go to the playground tab it just shows the nft
land skins uh the coin merch and whatever toys and that's it so other than that it doesn't give
you any any there's not even like a little slot machine floating around so um you know and that's
why i said i think the website's incomplete as well because there's
nowhere for you to stake your creeps um there's there's like nothing there's some things that
are on the old website that aren't on the new website so i think we get an upgraded version
of the website as well um possibly even today maybe today or tomorrow. The website itself instead of just putting
a tweet out, just, you know, don't let the buttons
go active until tomorrow. That'd be
fucking awesome. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, bro, you can speculate
for days on that shit, but
like, it was, it bothered
me yesterday because I got into Treble
space yesterday, and
the guy gave me so much mic time,
and he asked me about creeps and what's
going on and like i had no information like all i could tell him was that yeah the playground's
opening on the 17th we don't know anything about it except you know just rumored speculation there's
a creeps token and dmt and that's all I could really say.
And it's like, you have a rumor.
I forgot about the two AAA games, the animated series.
Yeah, I discussed all that.
But, bro, I've been saying animated studio game,
or fucking show for three years.
Yeah, we've all been saying that for a long time.
Yeah, I get you.
Yeah, so I'm not, I don't want to repeat that same regurgitated shit
so i want to be able to give people new information newer audience you know i mean it is a little
tired for our space because everybody here knows that already but yeah but even people that that
follow me know it they're like i've had people in my dm saying bro you've been saying the same
shit for three years.
That's why sometimes I'm hesitant to even write a fucking thread.
But yeah, I just want to be able to have more information to share with people outside of Creeps. At the latest, we get more information tomorrow, hopefully today.
Yeah, hopefully.
We'll see what happens i'm excited i'm very excited for creeps activation it's been a while galactic adventure was the last one
i'm hyped the community's hyped i think this is going to be an absolute blast um and you know
we're gonna look we're gonna have a surprise element to it we don't know exactly what's going
on but within less than 24 hours we're going to be doing something really cool so that's
that you know as as frustrating as it is it's also exciting because something cool is about
to happen so i'm excited good talk cheese yeah and you know it's probably worth mentioning that
can you guys hear me okay
my little thing yes yes yes yes my little voice waves weren't popping when I first started talking
anyway it's probably worth mentioning too that like you know if the markets really do start to
improve uh and NFTs start to rally these little gaming ecos keep catching on like Cambria and
others I mean we could be in
pretty close proximity to one of the actual creeps triple a games uh at least a beta version of it
right uh not to mention somo and everything else there's there's a lot in the tube so
yeah like not only could today be really exciting but man the next several months could just be
fucking jam-packed depending on market conditions absolutely a lot to be excited for potentially here
i agree what's up johnny what's up what's up yeah not that much i just got out of the office
finally tomorrow the last working day then i have four days off can't wait that tomorrow the playground is starting
i'm also excited as you are i'm speculating a lot but yeah to be honest we don't know anything
i mean like always we will see and work through it as we get it yeah yeah yeah i mean look um
we're gonna be able to spin some slots hopefully tomorrow.
Hopefully, you know, we'll find out.
Wait, tomorrow is the last day, right, for doing your creeps change.
Yeah.
That's the other interesting thing I was going to say is tomorrow we're also, you know, if you have not migrated your creeps over to a 721.
See you, bitches.
Yeah. Yeah. Have fun looking See you, bitches. Yeah.
Yeah, but why they didn't?
Yeah, but to be honest,
why they didn't give the people
just migrated it for them
or something?
I don't know.
Can they do that?
Sure they can.
The team can literally turn around,
change the metadata on the old collection
and airdrop them
and airdrop them right back into the same.
Well, they would have had to do that from the get-go for everybody.
No, they can still do it
from this. They can force
the migration the rest of the way.
I don't see why the fuck not.
But, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sad for the people that uh don't give a shit i mean it's their fault i understand your keys your blah blah blah well bro they should
have just showed the fuck up like that yeah but still it's a 4k asset and uh it's not uh that
it's gone you know i would still take the counter on this.
I'm happy to see a bunch of fucking creeps in the prize pool.
Right.
But I am split in that if I,
you know,
theoretically the whole blockchain thing is all about permissionless
fucking transactions and smart contracts and asset ownership.
You know,
I should be able to fucking buy an asset stick it in a fucking ledger
put the ledger in my safe and fuck off for as long as i want to again don't bring this adam
motherfucker on this stage but again i will bring up the fact that a lot of mints nowadays
are happening in the claim structured way like final bosu which you minted three of
and if you did not claim your
three kyle by the end of 60 days you would no longer i agree those and you you agree but there
is a technical difference between paying someone money on a pre-sale with a i mean basically just
a verbal agreement there's no contract signed anything like that versus actual ownership of an asset via the blockchain.
There is a technical difference there.
I mean, yeah, but still people have had two years, over two years to get this done.
Over two years.
I may think that it's not necessarily morally, you know, flawless.
I'm still happy that there's more creeps in the prize pool, right?
This is definitely not an issue that I'm taking a hard stance on.
You know how hard it's going to be to get to act.
You know how hard it's going to be to actually win one of the creeps.
So I think the percentage is going to be, I think it's going to be pretty,
I mean, it's going to be like hitting a fucking jackpot.
I know that's like five million to one.
But I also heard that
I also heard that it's going to be
something is going to be
possibly even bigger prizes than creeps
in there. Pudgies and
shit like that. Don't don't
start. No, there ain't no fucking rumor.
I was going to be New York real estate
in some of them. That's what I heard.
Hey, listen here.
Time Square Central, buddy.
You could win a chunk.
You think they'll give away the Tesla
that what's his name never got?
No, he took the fucking ETH, the prize money.
I thought he never got around to it.
No. Or he got thrown in jail. Yeah. I thought he never I thought he never got around to it because no
or he got thrown in jail
yeah
he couldn't accept the prize
because he was being investigated
oh shit
yeah I don't know
they should have gave that shit to somebody else
Positive Vibes
was that his name
yeah
Illuminomics else positive vibes was that his name yeah yeah yeah yeah if you're if you've already landed
yourself in fucking legal problem uh trouble before based on investment advice and shit like
that and you're currently under investigation i don't know man maybe uh maybe fire up a completely
a non-wallet and account and
then you can accept your prizes.
Yeah, but probably the team
needed the KYC from him.
Remember when he released the PDF
on how to save Lumi?
Yes, I remember that.
He was doing the weekly magazines,
wasn't he? Bro, he bought like
fucking, he bought like six or seven
banks, Megas.
He had a,
I think he had nine banks.
And that's why he was always
so pissed off about it. He bought all those banks and then went on
a fucking tirade about why the
bank should be more powerful. Should be the best
thing, yeah. Why don't you just spend your ETH on the
powerful assets to begin with? Look, I don't
want to do like revisionist shit here
because I did did i liked old
luminomics old positive vibes i thought he was an interesting cat to talk to he's a little too sure
of himself when he would speak but a lot of people in this space are guilty of that it's still a
comedic story to go down but yeah i'm not gonna sit here and pretend like i fucking wasn't friendly
with the guy i like like the guy. Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So an update for everyone in here.
If your creeps is in your wallet, your creeps is migrated.
If you claim portal, your creeps is migrated.
We should be clear.
When he says in your wallet, he means specifically if you can go to an exchange, a marketplace, like open.
Yeah.
And see the fucking.
The token of your old creep that's in your wallet. Technically, the token of your old creep is still
in your wallet. It's not like it evaporated.
And that's what I'm saying about blockchain
stuff, right?
It's not in your wallet.
It won't.
Hold on. Well, it's going to be in your wallet,
but it's going to show up with no floor
price, no nut, because I just looked in somebody's
wallet yesterday. Well, that's, look, that's the
difference
that I'm pointing out. If you can see it on
the marketplaces, if you can go to the,
if you can go to your wallet on Magic Eden
and click on your creep or whatever,
and it takes you to the collection, you're already
migrated, you're good to go.
Yeah, just like it's there.
Are there any one-on-ones which are not
migrated? No. No no they're all migrated
no and even if there was they'd probably remake them motherfuckers um oh look at it i got 100
followers now on abstract oh shit um i completely forgot about the follower thing i gotta start
yeah yeah i'm just or something yeah um what is it um yeah so i i don't know what we see
uh generational uh oh uh a creep right now is uh let me refresh 1.8888 eth let's go uh is where we're at yeah there's only five until you get to a um two eath floor
so and then tomorrow this playground opens up it looks like it's going to be some type of casino-esque
um uh playground full of different games and you're going to be able to earn nfts and uh soul and usdc is what
we've seen and whatever those chocolate fucking things are i don't know what that is um and we
don't know if creep we we don't know shit about it yet so everything we're talking about right now
speculation we do know we have airdrops of multiple tokens coming, but you will be spinning to earn a meme coin,
which is ticker DMT.
And then you could possibly end up earning,
do you think you're going to end up earning
like an allocation of creeps token too, right?
I'm suspicious that that's potentially going to be in there.
Yeah.
I mean, why not, right?
Yeah.
I really think this is going to, you know,
spend prizes. That's, you know,
it's not like it would fuck things up for on their end for the token. So yeah.
Yeah. I, bro,
I really think this is going to end up being a crystal dash on crack is what
it's going to be.
So there's going to be a social side to it that if you share your wins or share stuff, you get free spins or you get rewards.
Or like you just hit the tween button to even claim the prize if you win a prize, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
So there's going to be a social side to it.
So there's not going to be.
This is all speculated, people.
Don't fucking take Jesus' word. I didn't say. I said I think this is all speculated people don't don't fucking take jesus's word
i didn't say i said i think this is what's gonna happen hey they got a briefing in the
ble chat so he knows nobody got a briefing and so this is so this is what i'm thinking i think
i am i'll tell you the last message that was right through there. I'm in there on our alt account.
But I think this
is going to be a social
experience
mixed with the playground that gets
everyone tweeting about the shit.
And it's going to be a way
for you to earn. It would be foolish not to have
a social aspect to it where
you're putting eyes on it. And you have to incentivize people to tweet the stuff and get it and get it
active in the algorithm so yeah i agree we don't know that but i do agree with you yeah long before
kaido and all this other bullshit out there get fucking uh people seen crystal dash and built
several platforms off of that social fi the the very first one that kicked it off, which was fucking Crystal Dash.
And I think these guys run it back.
It's going to be a farming opportunity for creeps, I believe, for ticker creeps.
And I think we see that token within like three months, two or three months.
And I think this lasts for a while.
If that is true,
then you're right. Then I agree with
you that this is open to the public
and not just creeps.
I'm telling you,
the biggest fail in the fucking world
if this is just open to creeps.
Like, why?
You don't know enough about it
to say that it's a fail if they don't do it the way you want them to do it, dude. No, why? Why would it just... You don't know enough about it to say that it's a fail
if they don't do it the way you want them to do it, dude.
You can't be thinking.
No, but why would you want to token gate anything?
Why would you want to token gate an activation?
Our last three activations happened.
The prizes could be absolutely fucking phenomenal,
and they may want to silo those within their own community.
The nature of the prizes alone might be big enough to incentivize people to want to go out and buy a creep just to
be a part of it you know there's an argument to be made for either way essentially i had to buy
an aura to play in the poker tournament otherwise if i didn't have aura i couldn't play in their
poker tournaments that had prizes given away right right? Yeah, but now they're about to launch on Abstract
where everything is open to everyone.
But I'm just saying that's how it was.
I'm not saying there's not.
I have literally put it in a tweet that there's going to be.
The anime airdrop was for anime.
I understand that.
And I said that in a thread,
that there's going to be creeps-only perks.
I'm not saying that.
But if you think this whole thing's going
to be token gated just i don't think it is i don't think it is fucking that's ignit
it might be at first i mean it could be at first you know of the first day or two you know i mean
guys who knows who the fuck knows we don't get any information you know it's all speculation
look cheese i loved your little
thread i liked it a lot of time took a lot of time you call it his little thread you mean it
took a lot of time to type the in into chat gbt bro that took me two hours two hours kenny powers
yeah and you can ask flynn because i was in fucking Discord at 4 o'clock in the morning typing that fucking
shit out. And I could tell.
I could tell you put a lot of thought into that.
So we thank you.
So, yeah.
Suck my balls, Kenny Powers.
Damn.
Tired of this bullshit.
So are you going to list your creeps if
this is not open to the public? I think
we're all wondering.
Do what? Are you going to list your creeps if this is not open to the public? I think we're all wondering. Do what?
Are you going to list your creeps if this is not open to the public?
Oh, I can't list any creeps.
They're all on fucking loan, so there's no list in there.
Holy shit, look who just showed up.
Flynn.
Fucking Flynn.
Flynn daddy.
Not DMing, but in the back channels raging because no one's hanging out with him.
Welcome, Flynn.
Welcome to where everybody's hanging out with him. Welcome, Fliss. Welcome to where everybody's hanging out, buddy.
We're only here at the same time
every motherfucking day, my fucking...
The space was done.
I thought it usually ends around...
It usually ends in like 20 minutes.
Oh, well, I'm retarded.
It's all right, bro.
We know you're bouncing around
from continent to continent.
So your time...
The heat in Dubai is getting to his head, bro.
I know.
That wasn't Australian meat you had.
What?
It's all the chicken shawarma.
Chicken shawarma.
What do you think, Flynn?
Are you weeping
all your creeps if the
playground is token gated to creeps only what do
you think i actually have a uh automated we foot that will we fit we call them agents now flint i
learned that today yeah so yeah as soon as it's live all the creeps are getting dumped
As soon as it's live, all the creeps are getting dunked.
See?
I think we're going to be minting our IDs tomorrow.
What?
There's no fucking way.
God damn.
They're not doing it with IDLs tomorrow.
I'll give you this.
I think it's very possible that shortly after DMT,
we end up minting them with DMT.
I mean, I don't know that,
but it's possible that now that they're doing
DMT stuff, that IDLs are not that
far away.
If this is open to the public,
look, just hear me out real quick.
If this is open to the public
and people that participate in play,
what if they were able to get
whitelists for the
IDLs?
Yeah, I mean, that's not impossible.
You have to hit a certain threshold
or something of whatever,
points or DMT or...
Yeah, I mean, you could wiggle
a whitelist allocation into the
eco somehow. We don't know enough
about it yet to say that you couldn't.
That's certainly true.
They keep talking about IDs.
They just posted about IDs.
It said ID.
Yeah, I saw that too.
You saw that?
Yeah, it was ID, like I would, but they capitalized the ID and didn't put in a post.
They're clearly pointing at IDLs.
Yeah, I agree.
Do you think it opens at 9 a.m. based on
Joe's post?
What time zone would that be?
9 a.m.
Their time would be like 4 a.m.
Eastern, I believe.
Yeah, that's why I was thinking it'd be
East Coast time. A lot of people
do stuff on East Coast time.
DMC at 4 a.m., boys.
I'll get up at 4 a.m.
You already do.
Yeah.
For no reason.
Yeah.
I'm trying to figure out
how to
get rid of my kids
on Thursday.
Damn. Can you see if Joe and Dom can come in right now?
Should have voted Democrat, yes.
That post-birth abortion is already available.
Message Joe and ask him to come in right now.
Moon High, listen to me.
Listen to me.
I have messaged Joe multiple times asking him to come on this stage
to talk about what's coming,
to talk to new holders, whatever,
and he's not
responding. So, he's
either busy as fuck, MIA,
or just ignoring the fuck out of him.
Or we just need Kyle to
put out a post and he'll show right up.
Kyle put out a fucking post.
Quote tweet the poll
they got 200 and plus it was like 230
people or something that wanted them to show up so like i don't know i don't know when we see
them what spaces i have the slightest clue i don't know get fucking cool times to put a fucking
tweet out asking them maybe they'll go over there. But somebody fucking host it.
I don't know.
You never know.
Maybe they're about to paint a fucking mansion.
Who the fuck knows what they're doing.
Dijani, what?
Hey, I'm so bluff.
I just have been on an ATM,
and I used Apple Pay to get money out of it,
and it worked.
Really cool. Oh, well well thanks for that update johnny
we appreciate it i thought you were coming in hot and heavy with some some creeps alpha but
i rarely pull out a credit card anymore i do everything through my phone for the most part
i mean pretty much everywhere is integrated the uh tap list to this point.
I did try it because my wife wants to go
shopping new
furniture and yeah,
I got in head at when I hear that.
Look at this guy.
Tell her you're going to go buy some more crepes instead.
Johnny, tell her to quit cutting into your D-Gen
funds, alright?
Oh no, no, no.
It's hidden on a ledger of a ledger.
Okay, good, good.
All right.
So one thing I did want to touch on.
Anybody that has Final Bosu.
Oh, Kyle left.
I got added to this fucking Final Bosu chat yesterday.
So there's a website you need to go to if you hold FinalBosu.
It's path.finalbosu.com.
And once you connect your abstract wallet, I'm streaming it now.
But there's different tasks that you have to do.
And this is all part of the, I believe, the badges that are coming.
all part of the i believe the badges that are coming um and kyle you may know more about this
uh because i know i haven't said a word in that fucking chat that i was added to
uh but you're not into that one huh i don't think i'm added to that one moonfield put one together
that i'm in yeah that's like 12 people in it yeah that's the one i'm talking about so i didn't even see you um oh so oh the final
all right so when you go to path.finalbosu.com you gotta you gotta basically walk this fucking
timeline this path um you it explains how it works connect your ex follow final bosu
uh watch a trailer the growth path so right now there's one. It's Final Bosu 101.
I'm going to see what this is.
At the end of The Growth Path, your final boss is summoned,
a manifestation of your ultimate challenge.
These bosses vary in size and form,
reflecting the individual's growth and struggles.
They can be intellectual, monstrous, or anything in between, but they are always powerful and demand every tool
and allied to defeat
so oh you gotta watch 37 seconds of this fucking video it's just him talking about one of ones yeah
did you already do this yeah yeah yeah it seems like they're on the game one step of the path
every day or at least so far that's the cadence uh yeah and I suspect that the end of the pack will probably be revealed.
Right.
Like,
that's just my assumption.
So there's only going to be five one-on-ones.
That's what this tweet says.
Yeah.
That's what they've said.
Wow.
What's the collection size?
8,888.
Five one-on-ones.
Yeah. Five one-on-ones.
Where do you see that?
Did they post that on their page?
On their Twitter, yeah.
Final Bosses.
They said five one-on-ones?
Yeah, five one-on-one.
Are you talking about the past Moon High,
or are you talking about the one-on-ones?
Yeah, it sounds like they're doing
kind of like a Kid Called Beast kind of style, huh?
Where you're going to pick your path, I guess guess no it i don't think it's that it's just
one line so like the next thing is in 24 hours is a suitcase and then after that's more coming soon
he said it in the first video that this is basically this is basically a way for, uh, you to be able to, um,
complete and get the badges that are coming in the future.
They also like really integrated it into the lore.
Like in the animations,
there's like a few scenes where the characters have a,
like a lit up line,
like a fucking glowing tattoo type thing on their forearm.
And that's kind of the path they're saying.
Every one of them has this thing, right?
So they're walking the path.
Yeah, anyway.
I'm going to buy one.
I'm going to buy one.
I'm going to go off the line and buy one.
I mean, dude, right?
For right now, I mean, they're not a lot above the mint price so
you know i mean you could you could grab one now assuming that mind share is going to shift that
way as they continue to roll out the path you can i mean there's always the potential maybe the play
is the wait until reveal potentially get one on a little dip but who knows you know i mean i saw a
lot of people thought that about good vibes club Club and got left in the dust, right?
I mean, I don't know how much more of a dip you want on these because they're 1.165 ETH. I mean, it's like $35, $40 or something over fucking mint price.
So it's 0.04 ETH over mint price is what it is right now.
Essentially, somewhere around there.
Luke, what's up, bro bro are you walking the path with us
you're in final bosu right yo yo dude i'm actually uh regretfully 100
sideline because i missed i missed my pre-sale because i just up and um we had 48 hours there's
really no excuse i just thought i had more time and then i woke up
late on the mint and now i'm just kind of waiting but i i feel like i was thinking i was just going
to wait for post reveal and then just grab some even if they dipped a little bit just just start
to grab some that are like male because i'm sure there will be male and female just grab some dudes
because you know i want to have a dude pfp but now i'm
thinking if they're gonna have a delayed reveal i might as well just get in now and experience it
are you guys fans of this reveal or is it a little said he wants to grab some dudes
uh um uh to be honest luke like okay i have said many times in the past that i like things to move
quick i want the mint fucking quick, fast, and in a hurry,
and I want fucking revealed the second the mint's over.
That said, this is a fun experience.
Like the way that they're doing it.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
There's like every step of this has been an experience.
It's not just click the mint button and then fuck off for two weeks.
Do you feel closer to your NFT now because of this experience?
I wouldn't say I feel closer to anything.
To be honest, like, there's an argument.
I was thinking about this yesterday.
There's an argument to be made that a lot of the community hasn't really unified on X yet because nobody has a PFP.
So there is no like, let me post the fucking art, let me change my PFP.
None of that's happening yet, which is kind of slowing down the process of gelling at least an X community.
I'm sure there's a community in the Discord.
I mean, look, like I said, generally, this is not how I would prefer a mint and a reveal to go.
But in this case, I'm making an exception and enjoying it because it is it is a different way of going about it.
Then, you know, they're making every step interesting and fun and unique.
every step interesting and fun and unique.
Right.
Right?
So it's I don't know.
So it's,
I don't know.
I'm pretty neutral on it,
to be honest,
whereas usually I would be fucking furious about how long this has taken.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's,
that's the cow I know.
Fucking up and bitching about it.
Saying this is absolute dog shit.
All of a sudden he's flipping bullish on it.
Yeah.
I mean,
you're not wrong.
I have bitched a have a hundred various projects taking too long mints taking weeks at a time like dude luke i don't mean
to fucking troll you buddy but like i don't know how you missed your man this is like the longest
yeah i know it's the longest man yeah i don't get it. Before we go to fucking Dijani's 900th hand
raises, Max. Oh, yeah. I wanted
to be nice. The only one I was
ready for... No, Dijani,
wait. Wait.
The only one I was ready for was the first
come first serve free sale that got
blown away and then the public sale
woke up late. I clicked
the button in like eight
seconds and didn't even get to Mint.
Eight seconds.
Is this your first fucking time on the blockchain, KP?
I clicked the fuck out of that button, brother.
Did I think eight seconds after the link went live
that I was not going to be able to mint?
I did.
It was 1,600 NFTs of like the most hyped fucking mint
on abstract, certainly.
Well, thanks to the bots, I was unable to mint.
Okay.
You can blame it on the bots, but I didn't flick the buttons faster than the bots, brother.
Well, why did they specifically put in verbiage on the public bot protection?
Because they know they fucked up on the first come, first serve.
That's why. I got mine. come first serve. I got mine.
Whatever, bro.
I got mine.
I just think you're a little fucking butthurt.
Luke, Luke, do you think...
Hold on, Luke.
Do you think...
I did say fuck this last week.
I did.
Do you think it was botted the first come first serve?
It was.
Bro, people were tweeting about it being botted.
There was one guy that tweeted he got
18 of them. Exactly. That's my
point. So it was
100% botted.
It was gone and
it was 100% done.
But it is what it is.
Quit fucking bitching. You can still go get one now
botting is like it's just part of things you know i i feel like it's just like don't hate
the player hate the game and definitely not the project's fault yeah boom boom
they hate the player They hate the game
They hate that they couldn't log in on time
They fucking hate everything
They put bot protection on public
Why wouldn't they do the same thing for first come first serve
That's a fuck up on their end
Sorry
I just think they didn't want your fucking whiny little bitch ass
In there KP
I think that's what they didn't want
Yeah
Stone said botted but
kyle still got one yeah kyle stones and kyle both got one rubbing one off waiting for the button to
go live bro right dude you're fucking right brother i click them buttons with one hand faster than
them yeah i know i i think it's going to do well.
I've got nothing but love for Final Boso.
I'm just a bitter, bitter person.
Just buy one now, dude.
Because you know what? You're going to regret it.
I'm going to wait for the post-reveal dip
and then I'll buy one.
It's actually probably not a bad strategy.
I mean, getting one now...
I don't know. If I had enough funds,
maybe get one now and then also try to get one that you like
after reveal. Just keep an eye on the floor
just to cover your bases.
The only reason I would buy one now
is because I love the reveal part
of Mintz. I love the reveal
part of Collegiate. Believe me, the way
that they've done everything else so far,
their reveal will almost definitely be
a fucking experience.
You might get a one-on-one. I want to take experience you might get a one-on-one
i want to take the chance of getting a one-on-one yeah or getting a rare you know i like that
um in opposed to like shopping for what i like i like that's why i do it too bro right you know
it's fun it's fun if you fucking reveal a fucking rare one you're like oh shit i think that's what
i'm due for a one-on-one i've never gotten a a one-on-one, and I think it's my time.
So, I got one.
An idiot just got a one-on-one.
Every time I get a
one-on-one, it's usually
in a fucking ass hole
of a project. Like, it's just
the shittiest thing.
An asshole of a project for an asshole.
Kyle, these fucking captains?
An asshole. I like that.
These captainships are now .0480.
Fuck me, dude.
Every time I think I'm on the bottom
or something. Guys, I only
came in here because I thought Jonah was talking,
but it turned out it was fucking Luke.
in a video game now.
I seen that earlier when we were talking to somebody.
What, what's the deal with that?
Oh, that's a formula.
Oh, this is the racing game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
We have a big tournament today.
You can race with Machiavelli.
Um, how much does that cost?
I mean, it's free to race brother.
Oh, how much does it cost to use Machiavelli?
I mean, listen.
How much are you getting paid?
Machiavelli's for the streets, okay?
So everybody can use Machiavelli.
You couldn't ask him to enlarge your...
But I will be racing as my avatar in that tournament,
and I do have a level six most rare car,
and I do have the highest rarity card
as far as, like, upgrades and shit go, too.
How did you get your character in there?
What's that?
How did you get your mutant in there?
How did you get handpicked for this?
How did I get handpicked?
I don't know.
If I go buy a mutant right now, can I get my mutant in there?
Nope.
All right.
That's what I'm asking.
Did the team approach you?
People like me, Jesus.
Did you have to submit anything for it?
This guy is the whole day on space.
When I wake up, I see Machiavelli.
Three hours later, I see Machiavelli.
Sometimes I ask myself, when are you sleeping?
When are you sleeping?
Machiavelli, is this for Metadrag?
Metadrag.
This is for Introverse.
Oh, okay.
You know Metadrag McAvalley?
What the fuck is Metadrag?
You talking about that old-ass project from Steki?
No, I don't remember.
I don't know Metadrag.
That gay shit is so gone, bro.
Did they ever have a game?
I thought it was just like a...
Yeah, they had a game.
Click the button and then it was like a random...
There was a game. Yes, there's still a game.
Could you steer the car is what I'm asking
or was it like it just generated
a result?
Oh, let me tell y'all something.
I made tuna pizza the other day. Okay? Listen, hear me tell y'all something. I made tuna pizza the other day.
Okay?
I don't know if I can let this stand.
Listen, I mean,
pizza's enough, bro.
You're putting fucking tuna?
Fresh tuna, capers, red onions,
mozzarella.
Fucking phenomenal.
Phenomenal.
Your fucking ancestors are just shaking their head
right now they're just like holy fuck this is what our bloodline has come to y'all need to try
down with it i guess what's the sauce on there sauce yeah marinara tater sauce oh shit you had
me at it before actually it probably was a little bit of like Parmesan garlic sauce or something.
You know, I think that would have probably been a better fit, to be honest.
But I just bought marinara.
What's wrong with that?
Wait, Machiavelli, I might be mistaken.
I might be mistaken here when I say that Moon High did this, but I think I'm right.
Someone who smoked weed out of a hot dog just said ew
to your pizza. Am I right, Moon High?
Have you done that?
Don't tell people that in public. What are you
doing to my image?
He does a lot of things with hot dogs,
bro.
Everybody calm down
there. You're going to get the guy excited.
I am
absolutely throbbing right now
i have a general i'm scared to play as this guy in the game
what is your question did johnny kevin bolso is he from europe yes oh yeah explain like
is he from europe yes oh yeah explain why everything is so slow he's dutch i think
well his isn't his family from i thought his dad was from indonesia as well i thought that
was part of the thing like his dad was from indonesia i'm pretty sure and how is that kevin
How is that Kevin?
they're definitely
They're definitely...
They're definitely like European.
Like him and his bros, they don't look Indonesian per se, but...
I don't know.
Anyway, I don't think that Dutch leads to slow reveals though and engaging process.
Oh no, Europe in general.
I don't know, earlier you mentioned...
We are very slow in everything. So it explains that any Web3 project you look like from Europe is very slow in execution and hype building.
Because you motherfuckers have like 250 bank holidays a year in Europe.
Fucking no working sons of bitches.
Oh, yeah. In the EU, in the European Union, in Switzerland, you have six days.
Okay.
Hooray, okay.
I respect Swiss then.
All right.
And they voted, the fuckers voted instead of six weeks, holidays for four weeks of holidays.
Because the economy would be broken.
I mean, do you have holidays like when you work, do you
got like 20 days, 25 days or so or how that works?
What do you mean like vacation? Like paid hours that I can take off?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got like, I want to say I have four or five weeks, something like
that, as I've been in this building for a long time.
And yeah, you can use it whenever you want, right?
To an extent, yeah. I mean, if I want to put in vacation, I gotta have it approved a couple weeks ahead of time.
Or if I just call in, I can use my pay,
but I also, that's a mark on my attendance that didn't work against me
but yeah what's up Luke?
Yeah in regards to final Basu and like the mint process and it being very
interactive and slow I think that I mean I like it you know I like I although I
want to experience it so I need to get involved and I want to go through everything.
I hate it and look at it as a user but like I especially as someone who's like
still brainstorming a lot and trying to come up with ways to build something
that's engaging and special like I feel like it's a necessity right to do things
that are different and kind of distinctive unique but like you need
to make sure that people appreciate it and I think part of that comes down to community curation
so I I don't know where I guess just going to the discord and then going to spaces where it's
the subject and seeing what people's sentiment is is a good way to do it but like I definitely
want to read what people are expressing and how they feel about it and then see like how
the community curation and building was pre-ment which I'm interested to know because obviously
like you know projects can have a lot of hype pre-ment and then everyone may not have been
there for the right but anyway I'm really interested to see like you know how it plays
out how people are interested in it if everyone appreciates it or people are like fuck let me
reveal and then if people are like fuck let me reveal do they just sell out and then the people that don't actually
give a fuck sell and then it's the people that love it that got involved and then they do feel
like deeper ties and connection to the project and then they're gonna be maybe i don't know if
diamond hands is the right word but more devout. And then we see like a supply shock. I mean, I think it's interesting perspectives
from like community building and trading,
like all angles it's good to analyze and try to learn from.
But there's definitely a lot to look at
and then hard to perceive it correctly.
Yeah, I agree.
I just, and the only thing i would say to that is like
personally in my opinion discords are not like super useful in gauging sentiment it's because
like you know everybody that is hanging out in a discord to begin with like just by the nature of
them hanging out that discord they are a super fan for the most part.
And when somebody shows up with a dissenting opinion,
they tend to get fucking shouted down
by all the other voices in the Discord.
This is one of the things that I like about X,
specifically about Twitter spaces.
If you could identify the holders of a given project on X
and start to see what the sentiment on this app is
versus Discord,
I think it's a better representation, personally.
And as far as supply shot goes,
I think that's one of the problems
that Bosu is having right now.
There's 391 of these listed right now and it's just now under 400 it's been over 400 since
they minted which is yeah you know which is not good that's people supply almost right so like
yeah i don't know i mean maybe some people just cheating the fucking that's people that's probably
a lot of the bot shit bro yeah maybe but you know that that phase that theoretically got bought in right that was only
1600 nfts so you know at some point that group has to be worn out as sellers i mean i don't know
but we'll see it's just i think the other the other part of a lot of listings is the fact that nothing feels like it's in super close proximity.
I don't feel like they're revealing this week.
I don't know.
There's no reveal date.
It's 60 days to claim, and I guarantee you it's going to be 60 days to fucking...
Oh, fuck no. days to claim and i guarantee you it's gonna be 60 days to fucking oh fuck nah if it's 60 days to
reveal like dude the hype is over by then you know like that is like my ship what the fuck
anyway that's probably enough are they supposed to be having a token and cheese what did you tell
what did you say to do we to do something there hasn't been any talk of a token yet
i did see see if i can find this i saw moon fuel kind of kind of reading into something that they
said where he thought maybe they were implying uh a token let me see if i can find that here real quick what do you mean who's dewey no i talking about i asked you said something about their website i
didn't know if we had to connect their website with uh like no no no i was saying just like the creeps the new creeps website
it doesn't have any wallet connect it doesn't have anything the state creeps um i do for some
reason i'm thinking they're gonna like sunset the old creeps website the overlord site they should
because it it doesn't match the brand and it doesn't like there's nothing there well it's just there's a lot of nonsense on that site anyway that you know i don't know like the
new site's way better i would i would try to migrate anything relevant over to the new one
and then yeah shut that site down that's what i would do so there was this tweet from bosu yesterday
he had quote tweeted the uh link to the path that we were talking about um he says our devs
did a great job here they created a fun yet simple experience to introduce you all to the lore
holders will receive an exclusive badge at the end which will be added to the larger platform
we're building tracking who gets involved is important to us so we know exactly who to reward.
So Moonfuel kind of read into that.
And I'll pin Moonfuel's tweet just because he, quote, tweeted that.
So you can follow the quote tweets the whole way down if you want.
And he just kind of read into that, that so we know who to reward part.
As, you know, I mean, you can read what he said.
It says, Idle thought, quote, so we know who to reward, end quote.
Now, what on earth could Kevin FinalBosu be thinking here?
And is it perhaps FinalBosuX collector system that builds on the Pudgy Penguin's soulbound tokens idea that played a major part in the Pingu airdrop?
Is this the first hint of Ticker Bosu?
I don't know.
I mean, everything that I've read and seen about Final Bosu,
it's all just about IP stuff.
It's all about proliferating their IP and empowering their community
and so on and so forth.
I haven't seen anything that implies a token,
other than if you want to read into those words of who to who to uh reward
but you can reward people with stuff other than a token airdrop so i wouldn't i wouldn't go
screaming about a bosu token from the rooftops i don't i don't think there's anything to strongly
indicate that there's going to be a token there at least not anytime soon so yeah agreed uh because i think
a token would just like what do they need a token for well what does anybody need a token for you
know you can make that argument about if you have games and stuff then you can use it when you just
pay with the native gas token on the blockchain you know what i mean like the reason teams make
tokens is to do a big raise and then give a bunch of money back to their community and you know what i mean like the reason teams make tokens is to do a big raise
and then give a bunch of money back to their community and you know fill their coffers as
well like i get why people do tokens but it's not technically necessary to any of these ecosystems
i think oh go ahead sorry i was just gonna say just real quick on the token thing, because today is April 16th.
Theoretically, Jira's are, I guess, still doing their redacted token airdrop this month, but there's still no date.
There was an update yesterday. It's long. It's wordy. It doesn't have a date in it, so I'll spare you guys reading it.
But yeah, that was the most recent update in the Jira Discord was yesterday. And there's no date for the TV event yet.
That theoretically is happening this month at some point.
So anyway, there's your Jira update.
Yeah, but there is no hype to make a token.
I agree.
And that's why I would not have told everybody that I was going to fucking TGE a token
this month. Do you think
it happens? Do you still think it happens
or no? No, no way.
I don't think. I think
if I was him, I wouldn't do it.
But also,
dude, this would
like he is uniquely in this position
of if he doesn't,
this will be the third time that they've said they were going to TGE and didn't do it.
The floor price is still over, but not by much.
It's like, I don't know, at a certain point, I don't know, man.
point, I don't know, man. If I was him and I had not told everybody a bunch of times I was going
to TGE, I would definitely not TGE this month. But he's not in that situation. He's in the
situation of, we've told you guys we were going to do it before the end of the year. We didn't.
We told you another month. We didn't. Now this is the third time. So I don't know. I mean, I don't know, man.
I'm still a fan of Shan technically as a business guy and all that.
I think he's doing a lot of interesting things,
trying to build a bunch of interesting products.
Unfortunately, none of them seem to have really knocked it out of the park yet,
but it's still, I don't know.
I'm still a fan of what he's doing. We'll just have to wait and see if they tg or not
i'm looking at the crease playground site and they have the creepling the land you know all the
the tokens obviously like big token small token i'm sure there's different values you'll be able to win.
The merch.
I can't tell if the creepling is there because that's stuffed animal.
No, it says toys on it.
Just click on each one.
It tells you what it is.
This site, dude, why do they make it so all this is so slow?
What do you mean?
It's not slow.
Like the hand.
The website itself is like pretty heavy on graphics.
So it's probably a hardware thing.
Yeah.
Your hardware needs an upgrade, bro.
You know what I need to do?
I need to get a PC.
I need to stop being a fucking retard.
I got a fucking laptop.
Yeah. Quit being an asshole now.
But, um,
I don't know. I really, man,
I think tomorrow's gonna be a big day. I think
we're gonna be playing, playing,
uh, Creepling
game, honestly. I think we're gonna have, uh,
early access. What, the party
game? Yeah. No,
no. We're definitely not playing the Creep's party game tomorrow, the party game? Yeah. No, no.
We're definitely not playing the Creeps
party game tomorrow, but
yeah, I mean, we've seen
the screen kind of, right,
in a limited capacity. It definitely looks
like something we're going to be
I'm guessing spinning
or something for a chance.
It looks like a, you know,
a new format on a slot machine kind
of game to me. Still guessing, but, you know, a new format on a slot machine kind of game to me
Still guessing but you know, I mean like if they were launching creeps party tomorrow, that's their it's one of their major titles
Right, like they would be very clear if that was what was launching tomorrow
My god
Oh my god
I don't know who is uh yeah more vocal me or moon high in running in others
sorry go ahead to johnny i was just gonna say i would like portal to be the token we use to spin
bro i hope so they they have shifted to infrastructure bro i i don't know i really
understand complex things in blockchain i know how to do solidity but to dash shiffer what they
are doing or what they will do in the future i don't know um there is always a shift i mean
i hope for my bags because i have hundred thousand portal that did
any kind it goes back to one dollar or so um but yeah i don't know what they do yeah it's going to
be difficult to get that back there portal yeah look i would say this i don't i don't want them
to use portal uh as a requirement to spend because i want to get a benefit from holding my creeps
and not from holding a token
that we had no indication that anything was going to happen with anytime soon.
I don't want to have to buy a bunch of portal as a creeps holder
just to play the game.
What I do hope is that...
Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what I was going to say.
I hope that whatever...
If it is available to everyone
and people do have the opportunity to use
you know whatever currency to buy spins I hope it all goes through portal pay uh for exactly
the reason that we all know uh which is that you know uh portal pay fee goes to buy back
portal which would be good for the chart at least in in some capacity. So yeah, I think that'd be great.
And we are getting airdrop too.
So I would like to get the airdrop portal and a much higher price.
I hadn't thought about airdrop to a portal for a long time.
That's interesting.
What if they did make you spin the box with portal and gave all the creeps
holders their second airdrop so that we were all getting a drip of portal
again to facilitate our spins or sell you know our choice that's not a bad idea that would be a use case and kyle you know think about and gg has brought up the whole so sofi thing is like
thing is
like a lot of people
got portal from
you know crystal dash
and they might just be holding on to it
so it'd be a way it'd be something
for them to use it on
oh no
I wouldn't I would not just say
oh that's it's not gonna be portal I wouldn't say that
you have no fucking clue nobody knows
yeah they've kept the ecosystem separated Oh, it's not going to be Portal. I wouldn't say that. You have no fucking clue. Nobody knows.
They've kept the ecosystem separated.
I don't see why they bring Portal
into it. They don't keep it completely separated.
I mean, Creeps did get an airdrop of Portal,
right? So it's not...
I don't know. What's up,
Racky?
I'm just listening to all you guys
speculating
and realize that nobody knows anything.
Oh, that's a fact.
I mean, we started the discussion with that.
No, I've just gotten out of five days of tax purgatory
and that's about it.
Just listening to everybody speculate.
I hope that they pump our bags.
That's all I got to say.
It would be nice if they would use Portal.
I don't know if that chart can ever recover.
Was it down like 96% from the launch?
As I always say, Rocky, just because I'm down 99%
does not mean you can't go down another 99%.
Yeah, for sure.
But I appreciate all the thoughts and speculation.
I'm interested to see what they're going to do tomorrow.
Hope it's good for all of the community members.
Yeah.
Do you think we see something today?
I'm worried that we don't see something tomorrow,
but that would be an epic
miss oh my god i just i remember when the upgrade thing was an issue with the galactic adventure
and i hope somebody looked over like the small details there um especially not that was a disconnect between the people that developed
the game and the people that communicated the game mechanics to us right yeah i think this is
going to be a much simpler thing right where we it's again just speculating but i think it's
basically a slot machine where you either get a prize on each spin or not or more spins or
whatever you know it'll be a little more basic and clear how how the game works i think how are
they going to drive traffic there that's what i i don't understand like the social fi aspect of it
so you win you tweet you share your referral codes to bring people to the to the app
it's it's like crystal dash
mixed in with the
playground so we're going to be
promoting players will be promoting
the same way you see people tweeting about
big right now if there is a
Ponzi there people are going to be
tweeting about how much money they made
tweeting about what NFTs
they won,
like all those kinds of things to give hype to it,
I think will be what we see.
What if they let you use Pangu?
Why the fuck would they let you use Pangu?
Because Abstract's hot.
They work with Lucas.
You know they're working close
with lucas you know lucas got them all the all their creeps holder or luca nets luca nets luca
nets you know they you know luca and them are good buddies and you know that luca probably gave
him all their contact for the for the you know stuffed animals and all that shit. Well, it's certainly true
that SOMO,
one of the SOMO games is going to end up
on abstract. There's already
a thing for it that you can
upload it. I know you can put it as a badge
on your streams.
Yeah, there's some connection there.
I mean, look,
I wouldn't...
I don't know. I'd be shocked if it was like, hey, you wouldn't, I don't know.
I'd be shocked if it was like, hey, you spin this box with Pingu.
I wouldn't be shocked if, you know, portals theoretically being, like, portal pay in practice should be able to use any token from any blockchain to fucking execute a transaction right so if it is portal pay that uh you know gives people outside
the community access to buy spins or whatever um yeah i don't know why i mean you could at that
point you could use all right some uh some updates and breaking news somo is no longer listed as an
app on abstract and i'm really and i'm not fucking around with you
that's so every yeah while everybody's scrambling right now to go verify that you could also be
watching the stream but i know you're not uh but yeah it's definitely not on there i don't see it
and i'm actually trying to edit it as the thing that i'm doing right now during the stream and it's not there
um so if somebody sees it and uh yeah it's not there anymore there's still like a ton of
badges for ecos that aren't in existence yet because i mean at first a lot of them there was a lot of yeah yeah it's
most of the yeah segment yeah segment coming soon like i'm gonna go to gaming uh let me see yeah
there's a fucking slew of coming soon but no somo anymore there's so low which is the first You guys heard it there first SOMO Rug Breaking news
Kenny Powers
SOMO no longer on abstract
Let me go see if they deleted all the SOMO on abstract tweets
Let's scroll through
Let's take a trip down memory lane here
And see what's happening
Wow I wonder why they were removed
it's interesting is somo now going to base so i can tell you this they definitely did not really
i mean it's like i just went to somo's x account and searched abstract and i mean just this the first thing that comes up is january 24th
somo x abstract chain yap battle wager earn sobo duel is coming to abstract eco i i don't know
the badge disappearing in lieu of how long it's been since abstract's been up and somo hasn't
launched yet i'm just not i'm not convinced that it's not going to abstract
just because that disappeared yeah i'm just thinking that they cleared room for other games
that are coming faster yeah that's what i would think too yeah yeah but don't you think maybe
maybe they're rethinking like i mean you see in the in your feed you know abstract this and abstract that but in reality nobody's over
on abstract right like the biggest what's what's the highest market cap token on abstract chain
like oh let me look you got that up kenny or no no? Well, excluding Pengu. You're going to have to exclude Pengu.
You have Abster at 10 mil,
Newt 15 mil.
None of them have run
into 100 millions, though, right?
No, but we're not even getting coins
running into 100 mil right now in Seoul.
Except for the ones
that were already well above it.
But there's no new coins over there
launching that are going to 100 mil. Coins are a a different they're not even breaking 50 mil boys are a different thing
no coin is going anywhere on any chain except for solana with the exception of like three ethereum
fucking meme coins there's there aren't any meme coins doing shit on ape chain either but there's still a ton of people on ape chain too trading nfts and
stuff um rocky's gonna wait until there's 10 billion on abstract and then he's gonna ape
no he has a bunch of stuff over there i'm already in i mean i've i probably have bought 20 of the
different memes and i've just been dA-ing a little bit each day.
You didn't bridge Wolf, Dog, or whatever over to Abstract?
I don't remember what the meme boy was.
He's also streamed a few times.
He's buying NFTs, so it's not that he's not participating.
Yeah.
I mean, I am an aped tens of thousands of dollars or anything.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm looking at the the
transactions and everything happening right now i mean they're definitely there's definitely
action going on i mean it's just small just as of it's just early still yeah yeah just as of the
13th this was the last day this dune Analytics updated. There was 591,000
transactions
total on the chain.
It's definitely not
621,000.
It's definitely not like a fuckload of volume
on NFTs either. I mean, you've got
you've got
final BOSU at 31
ETH in 24-hour volume,
and that's the only one that broke 10 ETH and 24-hour volume.
Just for comparison, I mean, you got to, let's see, 25.
Yeah, you got to go down into the,
you got to go well past the top 10 to find a collection that,
Oh, shit.
oh, shit, I got to go past 25.
I got to go past 25.
This Dune Analytics is saying there's 82,940 active wallets doing Bitcoin.
I have not opened my Bitcoin thing in a minute.
82,000 wallets.
So people are obviously connecting bots to this and getting the free they're getting the free
coin you know what i'm saying they're just they just have a shit ton of wallets set up
we did it buddy my potato miner has successfully mined a full bitcoin i am over one bitcoin
oh i thought you was talking about ken Kenny dipping out like he has to urgently
get to the gym because it's going to close
unless he
actually shows up on time.
This fucker.
I was trying to give it to
130 to see.
I was trying to see if we had a creeps tweet.
You are definitely actively keeping
us from the information about the creeps.
I know, I know.
I know.
Right.
So I guess I should have ended this space at 12.
Oh, we're definitely getting it.
It's just not happening while we're live.
That's what Kyle's saying.
I'm actively keeping all creeps away from getting any post right now.
When is their last post and stuff been going out i'm about to shut it down i need to i need to go yesterday we had a normal post right no it was uh ticker dmt
leak detected the interdimensional gateway is cracking it's coming so and it showed you actually
idls there so that's... What the fuck, Johnny?
You were hard enough to understand.
Now, you got on a speaker phone.
Sorry, sorry.
It's the car.
I want to say, yesterday we had the tweet during the space.
No, it was at 1.08 p.m.
I don't think we were live, were we?
Yeah, we have been until 30.
Yeah, well, that was on accident
because I probably should have been off.
And then prior to that,
the tweet today on the 14th was at 1.52.
And then,
yeah, so they just keep, you know,
right between 1 and 2 is what it's seeming like.
So, yeah, we'll see what happens.
But either way, I'm going to shut it down anyways.
I got shit I need to go do.
Yeah.
Hi, everybody.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, I'll
holler at you guys later.
Peace.
All right.
