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Reality Check 🧀🎙️
Recorded: July 3, 2025 Duration: 1:04:01Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the recent growth trends in Bitcoin and Ethereum, highlighted strategic partnerships like Genuine Undead with Grind, and discussed the evolving landscape of NFTs and institutional adoption in the crypto market.
Full Transcription
Oh, just because she feeds me well, and she made me talk to her in a pink hotel.
It's all gone, it's never sick than you
I don't get the one that you want me to
It's just so wrong, so very nice
And that's all he wants
And you killed me twice
Sorry, once I'm in the back of the club
So I'm going to take it
So I said I heard you get a boy till he planned
And your student said, oh my God
So she said
I don't get it right
I don't get it right I don't get it right And your student said, oh, my God, Chelsea said. I I'm going to save the tonic and mine is a tin. But don't come to us with a snake than you. I'm trying to become the aspect of the serpent boy's thought right in the head.
And you stood in God, kick and instead Chelsea said. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. God. I'm sorry. All right. all right gmgm kyle can you hear me i know you're on the road bro uh i don't know hey gm i'm driving
across all the fuck ohio right now dude man and out of cell phone service we'll see how this goes
but yeah for everybody that doesn't know in the audience, I'm on my way to pick up a puppy with my wife right now.
Dang, Kyle, you sound like you're from Ohio.
Damn.
Brother.
He sounds like a
big rug.
You've never seen the people
in Ohio, dude. They're about like
the people in Tennessee.
Hey, hold the fuck up
now. Pray when these motherfuckers
don't trip. Hold on.
Don't come at me, bro.
They got drive-through beer
distributors at this motherfucker, dude.
My grandmother lived in Ohio
my whole childhood. We used to come to Ohio
every fucking year for Christmas
and Easter and shit.
Yeah, it's plump folks out here.
Anyway.
Hey, don't, don't don't uh ohio's a shithole so sorry for anybody that was born there yo i was fucking born there
ohio's a shithole
listen if ohio wasn't a shithole you'd still live there so i was telling my wife on the way through
i was because we were just like going by one of these old shitty like steel towns right it's like kind
of built up but then just dilapidated over the years and i was like you know it's kind of
interesting to think like if we wouldn't have started sourcing steel overseas and you know
shipped all of our fucking industrial stuff overseas basically a lot of these towns would have kept developing it
But like bigger metropolis city type areas and it's that they're all just like brought down fucking bathed out
Ohio
No, do you remember do you remember the chemical explosions that happened over there the evacuation with the train derailments?
So you're about to run into a bunch of no return type people, bro.
So you got to watch it.
Like, people, was it something?
Deer with two heads.
Now that you mention it, I'm going to start holding my breath
until I get the fuck out of here.
Yo, you want to hear what's even more dumb?
So I was born in Ohio.
I was born in a place called East Liverpool, Ohio.
Our high school mother was. Oh, that's high school matt our high school mother was oh that's
fucking funny our high school our high school mascot was the potter it was basically somebody
who made ceramics like are you what the fuck kind of mascot is that bro that's yeah that's pretty gay
um yeah like what does he run around looking like?
Is he dressed like some... No lie.
He's a massive like Potter kiln.
Like his head is a kiln.
It's so fucking dumb.
That's...
Yeah, that's pretty dumb.
That's why I said Ohio is pretty dumb.
I'll see if I can find it.
I'll post it.
Oh, yeah.
Claudia or Clady.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Claudia or Clady. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
But anyways, guys, make sure you repost the space.
GM to everyone.
We're live on kick, abstract, all the above.
And yeah, drop any comments, questions, come on on stage whatever you want to do um kenny
gm how you doing yo i'm doing good man i'm doing good uh bitcoin was above 110 just drop right
below it i know you're excited about that oh yeah um you know it uh it yesterday the market just
fucking ripped and then uh it did never stopped it just kept
going and going so we're gonna let you do a pretty uh decent market report here because i want to i
want to get into some some of that um as well but yeah i had a late start this morning bro i didn't
get up on time when i fucking normally would have like it was a it was a shit show uh this morning so
no nothing i just i was up late i've been staying up late so the it's it's been killing my mornings
um so i gotta get my ass back on on schedule here um yeah so yeah that's the problem but
either way the show goes on. Let's fucking get it.
One of the first things I wanted to...
Bro, just I can't sleep lately.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm up till like 3 in the morning most of the time.
This last probably two weeks, probably 3, 3.30 in the morning.
And then usually I wake back up at 6.37,'m like so fucking tired i'm like no i'm going
back to bed so yeah so i feel i feel fucking uh i feel like i miss out on all kinds of shit
lady in your life or something like that okay just uh no no no no no no not not any of that
so uh but yeah one of the first things i wanted to jump on kenny is uh yesterday uh
genuinely undead or genuine undead um announced and i did put the tweet at the top if you're not
in the discord if you're not a holder you need to get you know get an nft go jump in there they
are giving out um they're doing some giveaway stuff with Grind some of the Grind holdings that they have
and the tweet
like I said it's up at the top
you can go there activate
inside drip
inside of the discord
and it says on the tweet
hold a GUFU
or coming soon
an undead chef's
earn bones buy grind inner raffles uh collect cool shits like so they're doing a bunch of cool shit over there in the discord so based on all that
yo let's give away another genuine undead on monday um i know fry i know tomorrow you're
going to do a big freak space or i would have said tomorrow. Yeah, dude. I still have one of the genuine events.
Hans sent me a couple of them last time to give away.
Yeah, dude.
Let's do it on Monday.
Bro, there's a creep space tomorrow.
Yeah, tomorrow we're doing a...
It's the second pin tweet at the top.
So we're doing...
Instead of doing a normal reality check,
doing a... Just like a creeps
community space gonna be answering any questions anyone has uh just trying to you know bring back
some um some all creep spaces all you know vibes and seeing what we can seeing what we can do
yeah so um but nobody on the stage will be able to answer any questions
about if you lost money in the last few years none of that stuff oh jesus you need to answer
that for me we don't we don't have any answers for that um i don't have control of your wallet
you know but anyways yeah so that space is up there. So just set a reminder for that. But yeah, go jump into genuine Discord,
genuine undead Discord,
and essentially fucking get to grinding on the quest
that they have inside of there with Drip.
So should be some pretty cool stuff there.
I'd seen Hans' tweet about it,
and then I wanted to make sure I jumped on that first thing
before we got
fucking distracted and you know started talking about fucking ohio again or some dumb shit um
like we fell off the train yesterday but yeah um kenny we do have a short time uh now at this
point you want to kind of just jump into some market talk real quick and then we can move on uh yeah no uh so market looked pretty good this morning uh like you said bitcoin
hit 110 earlier this morning it's pulled back a little bit but still relatively looking good at
1095 which is up 1.1 percent ethereum uh hit 2600 it's pulled back slightly to $2,583, but it's almost up 5% on the day.
Solana sitting at $152. Their ETFs went live yesterday. I think there was like over $30
million in the staking ETF, I believe. Something along those lines. I was looking at it
earlier, but yeah, it looks good. Then looking at alts you know we're starting to see
those uh looking healthier uh hyper liquid over 40 bucks you know you had avalanche up four percent
um just across the board xrp looked pretty good too uh up three percent back up to 227 so um suey up six and a half percent to three dollars so yeah just across the board
also good uh meme coin majors all looking really healthy pengu just continues uh to rip broke over
one billion yesterday it's slightly down a little bit but still up 1.2 on the date i keep seeing
somebody sharing something about pengu that it's like it's having like the
most inflows out of any meme coin for like the last week yeah like every day it's just it's just
more and more money flying into that it's almost up a 2x over the past week um it was sitting at
0.008 cents last week it's back uh up to one and a half cents right now. So looks good there.
You know, all the majors really looking good.
Bonk is up 13%, back up to 1.2 billy.
Whiff back up to 900 mil in market cap.
You know, PopCap back up to almost 310 mil.
Fartcoin at $1.18.
It hit $1.28 last night 28 last night overnight while I was asleep but
saw a huge spike on fart coin useless at 250 mil so just across the board looks like majors are
doing good trenches not really so much we saw that one kind of I don't know if it was wash
trading that happened yesterday on that coin called company which somebody put you know a
million dollars into it sub i think like a million it shut it up to like over 25 mil uh i was looking
at the uh p and l's on that uh token dude the top token bought 608 sold 881 000 how does that how does that work if it only just wicks up and comes back down?
You're telling me they were able to sell?
They were able to buy the 680 when the coin launched,
and then there was a big enough transaction that went through to sell 800 grand?
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure how it works,
but I was looking at StockChain.
They actually put out a tweet about it.
It said, 11 insider wallets spent 8,600 buying tokens
and company and sold for a total of $1.53 million.
So 11 insider wallets bought 8 600 bucks worth sold for 1.53
mil um when are we gonna be the insider wallets guys we gotta figure this out yeah it's just
it's wild though that like there was enough liquidity there to sell that much of the coin
i don't understand that like how in the fuck was that possible one
unlucky wallet they gave the address ended up uh ended up as exit liquidity invested 1.5 million
but only recovered 16,200 oh my god yeah uh ironically this trader had previously made $5.2 million on Trump and sold $375K and made $375K on UFD.
So I don't know.
Obviously, some people are saying this is wash trading.
I don't really know if it was a fat finger buy or insider trading.
But yeah, imagine that.
$8,000 and one and a half mil within minutes.
Pretty crazy to look at.
But yeah, trenches, we're seeing a couple daily runners here and there,
but nothing really sustaining more than a couple days of a decent market cap.
But we'll see how it goes.
I think the trenches are slowly starting to come back.
More coins are migrating
which is a good sign you know that uh people are buying uh risk is on so yeah we'll see how it all
turns out but yeah in my opinion i think just stick to the good majors um and you know because
they're all across the board up 40 50 100 over the past you know two three weeks so it just seems like it's the safer play with less
volatility just to get into good meme coins that you have uh you know conviction and that you think
you're gonna do well and they most likely will so yeah so is murad looking like an idiot still
or is he looking like a genius i mean he's not looking like an idiot. I think his price predictions are extremely off.
You know, he's got some really high price predictions.
Doesn't he have some at like 20 bill?
Dude, he said like 100 bill, bro.
It was just like crazy, you know?
But Kenny, we don't know yet, bro.
I think there's still time to see where this all goes.
Yeah, for sure.
No, look, you never say never.
But, you know, when I look, you never say never.
But you know, when I look at Dogecoin as like the number one meme coin ever, I think the
highest it got was like 706 or 76 billion was as high as it got somewhere in that range.
So like, do I think SPX is going to flip Doge's highest market cap ever?
Probably not, but you never know.
I mean, maybe memes get super popular. I was talking
to Cheese yesterday. There was some information that came out yesterday. Bitcoin ETFs did $187.5
million, the iBit ones, in revenue last year, which is higher than the S&P ETF so and that's with you know crypto or or you know investment firms telling you know retail to
have you know one to two percent exposure to to their to crypto in their portfolios so imagine
when they say well you should have like 10 exposure to crypto the amount of inflow of capital that
will come into crypto you know is going to have 5x from the investment
side of things. So like, it just creates that much more liquidity within the market. So yeah,
you never know how high things can go. You know, because it's still relatively new as far as like,
you know, investment firms getting, you know, setting up people's portfolio to have exposure
to crypto. So yeah, yeah i mean you don't know
i just think it's a little far-fetched 100 billion i mean it would literally have to 100x from where
it is right now so but maybe yeah you never know yeah that would it would need a lot of
fucking liquidity coming into the market um and it's it's coming in but it's coming in, but it's coming in like just Bitcoin, you know.
There's a lot of...
Ethereum's done pretty well, too.
But Bitcoin, yeah, their ETFs, I think it's been like 18 months.
They said 17 out of 18 months have been positive net inflows
over a year and a half, you know,
and we're seeing more institutional buys,
more corporations adding, you know, Bitcoin to their treasuries.
You know, so I think we're good. I think we're seeing more institutional buys, more corporations adding, you know, Bitcoin to their treasuries. You know, so I, you know, I think we're good.
I think we're good.
You know, even if we go into somewhat of a bear market at some point here, I don't think it's going to be nearly as impactful as the previous bear markets.
You know, history tends to repeat itself.
Every chart goes up and down.
There are peaks and valleys, but I don't think the valley will be as deep as it normally has it,
as it's normally been in the past.
So we'll see.
Bro,
I just want to touch on that part.
There are no more cycles.
Get that shit out of your head.
Yeah.
We had that conversation yesterday as well that,
you know,
you have to,
the thesis is you have to stick to a four year cycle until proven otherwise.
Is, you know, what a few other people in our coin chat, just in our telegrams, in our back channels say.
Ask Juice for permission to join that.
Let's go.
You got to DM Juice.
I just say that simply because of the new territory that we've entered in this market.
This is like the beginning stages of something completely different from what we've experienced in the past 16 years.
I tend to agree with you because, again, we've never seen corporations adding so aggressively Bitcoin to their treasuries.
We haven't had clarity on
regulations in the US like we do right now.
We haven't had major
businesses, some of the largest
market cap businesses in the world
tried by Walmart,
Amazon, looking to add
stablecoin usage. Banks are using
stablecoins now. The Genesis sat that back.
We've been having the president-elect launch a
viewpoint and then launch
a vampire attack right on its heels jesus i can't believe you just fucking that's a juice by the
way that's up dude there is no telegram people yeah well just you know i wanted juices dms to
get blown up a little bit there so um making sure he's a he's aware of uh or awake and paying attention either a telegram or a point yeah um who came on stage
jatoshi jatoshi do you have something to say or are you just up here farming
what do you think i'm here for bro i don't know just that's what i'm trying to figure out um
you know you can at least say GM.
Guys, if I told you guys how great QB changes recently,
you know, you should all go to A on Pete's bio
and click that link and sign up and do some swaps,
get some blocks, and yeah, yeah, yeah.
The whole point in that is for you to shill your referral code,
not Pete's.
I don't have a referral code.
I probably do.
But you know what?
I want to see the boys win, brother.
You know that?
I'm here for them.
We need one for the boys.
Okay.
All right.
Kenny, what else is happening over in Meme Town?
Are you still holding your...
Obviously, you're still holding your fart coin.
Yeah.
But what about U about useless? Yep.
Still hold useless. Still hold
rekt and
added some pengu last week.
So those are the only
four meme coins I'm holding right now.
Fart coin?
Oh yeah. No, of course I have it.
I've been adding on the dip.
That's one of the four.
105.
No, 103.
Just the other day.
102, actually.
And then I bought some the week before that at like 96 cents.
I keep adding on the dips.
I'm just going to keep adding.
Every time it has a 10%, 20% pullback, I'll add a little bit more.
I'm just going to keep adding to that bag.
And I'll take that strategy across those four. Those are four that I think are going to keep adding to that bag. And I'll take that strategy across those four.
Those are four that I think are going to do really good.
Obviously, two kind of brand coins, you know, Pengu being like the face or the token face of, you know, the Pachi ecosystem in catching bids.
And, you know, this whole talk's about Pengu ETF.
I mean, if that ever does happen,
it's going to have a significant increase.
I don't necessarily know if it will,
but you never know.
Somewhere down the line, it could.
Rekt, obviously, the way they're using consumer goods
to grow the IP and brand recognition,
I think Rekt is really good.
And then two just kind of means that I think are going to do well.
I think Useless is going to be the corner of 2025 as far as meme points go.
It's had significant price action on that chart.
You know, it ran up to 32 mil initially within the first week or two,
dipped all the way back down to eight mil and now sitting at 250 mil.
So it had the big retest
on the initial pump
and it's been up only since.
So I really like that one.
Pete, GM, what's up, bro?
How you doing?
Yeah, dude, Cube's going to cook fucking hard, bro.
Yeah.
People don't get it.
And you want to know what?
She's like, I'm still getting shit from people. You know know it's like if you did as long as the little cuck influencer faggots aren't in it
dude they call it whoa yeah they call it a scam it's really amazing to see dude but if they're in
it then it's not a scam but because they're not in it and they're and jatoshi or i'm sorry and
cube isn't giving them 60 billion dollars per month uh then boom, it's a scam.
You know?
Bad news bears, dude.
Hell yeah.
They got a whole load of money, dude.
Listen, it's simple for me.
Jesus.
Fartcoin, cube, Bitcoin, puppets.
That's it.
Boom.
That's what I'm going to do with my time.
Coin Kong put a picture of him and his old head coach in the fucking comments.
Look at this.
I didn't know the guy.
Coin Kong is like a picture of his school mascot.
It's like him and his old coach, he said.
So that's, yeah, it's pretty wild.
What do you make of Kyle shilling your referral code over his own?
I'm cool with that.
That's my boy right there, dude.
You know, we're all boys.
All the homies got to eat.
You know, let's say I make a million dollars on the airdrop cheeses.
Like, an idiot gets 100K, like, snap of the fingers, you know?
And you think the airdrop is going to be that much with Cube?
I mean, I'm a small guy.
No, but I do think if you have size uh i think it
could be similar or a little less or maybe more depending on how many people start actually
farming it then than hyper liquid there's no reason why it would be any different they raised
the like same amount of well hyper liquid didn't really raise but you can you know what they went
to market with and uh cube's got a
buttload of money so and it's not being spoken about like it's just not you know um in my opinion
and don't use my link i this isn't to show my link this is literally because i i feel like
i'll show you i feel like it's a free opportunity like i i genuinely well it's not free you know
poured over two or three hundred dollars or a hundred bucks and literally what i'm doing you don't even need that jesus you can
literally fucking board over like 50 bucks and just yeah jesus what i'm doing is just like i'm
buying 30 of far coin and i'm selling it for 29 or 32 depending on what it is in five minutes and
taking that loss and then swapping it for solana and then taking that solana and and buying more solana
for 20 bucks and then selling it for 25 bucks dude i've i've done like 20k in volume and i have not
gone out of my way by any means yeah and we've done the same thing in the past with other other uh
platforms just no tgs on those yet so yeah um and i mean i guess like it's like dude it's like it's an exchange right and
there's a layer one dropping so it has like all the memetics to be valued at over you know like
nine figures so there's there's like there's very few airdrops that come out regularly or have this
year that are like over a billion dollars so oh well i'll make sure um jit you get the uh the bill
for this this three minutes you know spiel to be from y combinator oh my god are you guys getting
space x from a y combinator person he's uh what oh did oh did we get scammed by that guy who was
like working at a bunch of different companies i actually I actually did that at one point for like three months I worked at two companies
full-time tried it out during the pandemic oh anyway you're welcome
to Toshi for bringing us to this big giant cube exchange conversation hell yeah Robin Hood is down 92 dollars
what the hell dude
Clemente danced he did the
100 dollar dance bro
holy shit
dude Clemente
whoopsie
he did the Robin Hood at 100 dollar dance
literally within minutes
it started to downtrend bro
yeah but it
also was because robin hood announced something yesterday about their uh while it's not really
stocks you're it's like a i don't it was really weird did you see their and outdated guys tweet
yesterday it may have came from i don't know if it came from the Robinhood actual account, but there was a tweet yesterday going around where they were kind of saying that, like, yeah, while you are buying stocks, it's not really the stocks you're buying or something.
And I think that started a downtrend on it as well, Kenny.
I had to go back and find it.
I'm surprised you didn't see that.
This shit was shared everywhere yesterday.
Well, now I haven't really gotten to understand this,
but what you're buying is a tokenized version of the stock, right?
So it's not technically a stock.
It's a token that's backed by the stock.
Am I right about that?
Right. technically the stock it's a token that's backed by the stock am i right about that right if they're not you're not you're trading stocks on chain so it's not you're not actually buying the stock you're we're not technically trading the stock on chain right like what you're
trading a synthetic stock it's not that right so well i mean i mean even if you're buying stocks
on robin hood anyways you don't really own the stock robin hood owns it and they're leasing it It's not that, yeah. Well, I mean, even if you're buying stocks on Robinhood anyways,
you don't really own the stock.
Robinhood owns it and they're leasing it to you essentially
because it's a holding company.
Correct.
Right.
It still kind of acts like a stock though, right?
Where, correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't done a lot of playing around on Robinhood,
but I think you can only like
If you trade a style like if I owned a stock
No, he's getting cubed yeah
Before it let me do anything else because it all has to settle on the other end
The same way that stocks do I think whereas with these tokens you wouldn't have to worry about it yeah i still think the ownership is weird though i mean you're you're still you're
still beholden to robin hood to um hold like basically hold and manage your your assets
essentially right you're basically
buying it from them and then they take it they take a cut and they sell if you sell it you're
selling it back to them um you're not selling it on an open market how are you doing uh carlo
i'm good yeah i was just up here to shill Kyle's cube link. Go move
like $50 to Solano over there.
Hey, what about mine?
We gotta protect you.
I don't know.
We don't have a lot of New York City
that hear slurs live on
fucking spaces, so
we gotta protect him.
He's a rare breed.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
What's happening?
Can you give us any updates on
what's happening with Bearish?
I thought I seen something the other day that
said...
It wasn't like something is coming, but it was
something that was about to get
activated for Bearish.
Yeah, we're building Z right now.
Okay, so you guys are helping Ponds build zeet yeah we're we're basically the the dev side of things let's go all right so so yeah we're i
mean we have a very close relationship with ponds we've been working you know scotty's been working
with ponds for a while i've been a plague been a plague holder for about three and a half years.
So our relationship is very close.
And every time Pons needs a little help with something, we help them out.
But yeah, it's kind of a group amalgamation of sorts,
not just bears and frogs, but also some other advisors that
that ponds has brought in as well um so it should be good um it hasn't been announced yet it's to be
determined but um you know either way if z is successful there will be benefits for frogs and
bears for sure let's go dude i love bearish anyway uh dude jesus has explained to us multiple times uh kind of the
difference between c and some of these other social five platforms but just for the sake of
clarity and ac and pb accuracy do you want to like like do you have like a concise like like
what's the difference between this and friend tech or k Kaido or you know any other social five thing
yeah i mean i think the biggest thing is quality right you know quality of content that's that's
shared um you know that's going to be taken into consideration but also um
just the inclusion aspect of things right a lot A lot of, you know, bigger accounts are able to farm
and, you know, get, you know,
stack a nice bag and then dump it, right?
It doesn't, that doesn't really help the, you know,
I don't want to say smaller accounts,
but, you know, the accounts with less reach essentially.
So how do you amplify that?
How do you quantify the quality of content
that they might be posting and give that a boost?
So I think there's, you know, we're looking at a couple different ways, but the majority of what
we want to do is kind of democratize that, make it more decentralized and really focus on the
quality and not the quantity and, you know, and create a system that, you know, elevates
quality content,
but also have fun along the way.
See, that was my argument,
was that Fantasy Top is basically gated
to the larger KOLs in the space,
and those are the only people that really benefit
from Fantasy Top.
But if you play Fantasy Top,
the way it makes you set your cards up
you can only have like one or two of those rare people and then you got to have smaller accounts
i don't think they weight the smaller accounts like they should and i think if you have a squad
of five people five six cards whatever the the deck is and in zeet um if you have a smaller set across the board
of, you know,
smaller creators that put out good
value, that put out good tweets, put out
good information, and they
have the right impressions and
things like that, I think that should outweigh
you having a deck of,
you know, one ISO beast
and, you know, four
smaller cards or whatever.
And it incentivizes the smaller people to create even more.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's the problem is that no matter anybody's timeline in here,
most people see the same fucking 10 plus, you know, KOLs
on top of every social file leader board on top of
you know every single thing is ran by like the same five to ten people and there's nothing out
there that's providing growth for the smaller creators trust me it can be very discouraging
to sit here and write thread after thread and post after post and you get no fucking reach
no interaction that's the top
accounts won't ever interact with you unless you know them um and it's it's difficult it's difficult
for smaller creators to grow so a lot of people that are probably really good creators they get
discouraged and they just leave the space or they quit creating um and those are some people that
may not be in the circle to say hey
you know can you help me with this post or do this or you know all it takes is one tweet and
like it can change your your you know your path in web3 um or even one opportunity and i think
zeet's gonna provide that for smaller creators to give them a bigger platform to grow uh and more
people to see their their content
yeah and i mean there's there's another secret secret recipe that we haven't revealed yet
that'll become clear uh that'll become clearer as we go around but i i think uh over the next uh
two to four weeks you'll you'll start to see some some interesting stuff um you know also the first
the first season will be starting and will be powered by grind coin
and um yeah there's gonna be some fun stuff happening there and then in terms of um you
know bearish stuff like we had we done a hackathon for grind um i don't know if you got your uh did
you claim your streamer bonus i did yeah yeah yeah yeah and and that was good and i can see in that
chat there was people that were regretting not
act not participating in the first round try to tell people i try to tell people i think
yeah i think our top three our top three hackathon winners uh got i mean at this market cap got like
5k each uh in grind um for vibe coding right you know so like uh it's pretty good for for four days four or five days
of work um so and then we i mean we've gave away like i think this current market cap like 36 000
worth of grind um so we're gonna be we're we're working on our next uh our next hackathon sprint
um probably gonna be happening uh late August, early September.
That'll probably be with Pengu.
But the one success thing that I want to just kind of call out here is that one of our hackathon members actually launched their,
with our help, launched their game on mainnet abstract.
It's called Hash Crash, so hashcrash.xyz.
And it's going to be the first the
first game that came out of the bearish hackathon to make it onto the abstract portal so that's a
little bit of alpha so pretty pretty cool to see um hopefully we'll have more um examples of that
is hash crash on there right now under gaming or where's it at it's uh it just got submitted uh yesterday
so as soon as it gets published um it'll be up there um but yeah we're tracking it we're
supporting it that was built by francis um you know we got them all together and i think he's
gonna integrate grind at some point but right now it's it's it's eth betting um but yeah no it was
it was fun to see kind of be part of that process to kind of help um
help a developer be you know kind of beginning to get get through a hackathon and then also
um you know get something into production and now uh eventually we'll be on the abstract portal
which i think is great nice yeah that's pretty good um is the bearish team too busy helping support and build other brands to work on bearish like are
you guys like i'm not trying to maybe i worded that wrong like is the is there ever concern
that the focus gets kind of shifted away from bearish because you guys are busy helping other
brands like zeet and these other you know as i'm older
i can take a swing at this like i don't worry about it because what they're doing is proven
like everything that they help another team with i seem to get a little bit of benefit from as a
bearish yeah right like that's what i want i want to hold jpegs and get a benefit from other
ecosystems and collaborations and partnerships and shit like that's the dream right like as an
nft holder yeah i mean like i i
will say this that the work that we do for other other projects um we either have equity ownership
in or we're getting paid or we're getting assets um and then we kind of trickle that back right
i mean i think that's the way that that it should work um that's kind of been our mission in a lot of ways um is you know we're a community of builders
and the best thing that you can do is build and not just sit sit around so while you know it might
not seem like there's a lot of things happening for bearish itself there's quite a bit actually
um you know we're we've got our art team working around the clock on getting our IP assets out there in terms of, you know, GIFs.
And we're going to be spinning up TikTok soon.
We've got like over 3 million views on Giphy.
You know, just putting that out there.
The second side of things, we do the hackathons, right?
We've got the hackathons that we're doing to kind of engage with the community, help them learn how to code, build with us,
hopefully get to the point where they can monetize
their applications that they build, right?
We've got two people got contacted for their games
to get whitelisted for another project.
So they have these abilities to kind of monetize the thing,
the work that they're doing with us.
And then also like take Francis, for example,
he's launching a game that was kind of nurtured by our ecosystem and is going to be on the portal.
Right.
So like these types of things, they all have, you know, a positive impact on the project as a whole, but ultimately like Z for example, you know, we have equity ownership of that.
There's going to be a benefit for bearish.
We just can't announce it yet.
Um, there'd be a benefit for frogs, right right because ponds is part of that process too for um you know we've got a a game
that's in development right now that we're going to launch on abstract um but yeah there is that
there is definitely concerns that you know having you know our team working on all these different
things um will kind of split focus but our focus is on building.
And if we're able to help lift other people up, it's good for us too. Um,
you know, we, we did the development for the Frankie go game, right. You know,
so like that's something that not only people know about on the timeline,
but you know, that is something that we're doing,
but we get a little bit of benefit out of that. Um,
and it's going to help keep the project going.
So we've got to continue to work.
Carlo, is Jonah as difficult to work with as he is to talk to on Twitter spaces?
No, I'm not
going to talk anything ill about Jonah.
I think he's a really smart dude.
He understands the gaming aspect of things.
I only should talk
to my friends.
Yeah, no.
We work mostly with the Frankie Go team directly.
But yeah, I mean, there's things like that.
And we also have, I mean, we haven't even talked about how we're going to utilize this yet.
But we also have a stockpile of grind just as a project for doing the work that we did for them.
So that will probably find its way into holders' hands eventually too.
And then, you know, in little things, advising and stuff like that, like I did some
advisement for Dremelio, we got, you know, I think we got like a bunch of free NFTs for
the bodega that we put out, you know?
So like, there's different things that we can do, um, to help each other out.
And yes, we can, you know, scratch your back.
I'll scratch your, you know, you scratch my back.
Right.
And there's anything that we get, it goes back into the community in some form or fashion.
So, yeah, I mean, it's not going to be like every day there's going to be something, but sometimes, you know, sometimes there's something new to check out.
It's badass.
Yes, I think collaborating is good, and especially for projects on Abstract in particular,
I think collaborating is good.
just because, obviously, the friction of people being lazy and not wanting to bridge money
over and whatnot, it's up and coming L2, obviously.
I think the different projects and communities need to rally behind each other, help each
other out
you know to bring more notoriety to abstract chain in general you know so i i think it's a good thing
you know everybody should be trying to help each other out and rooting for one another uh just so
you know the popularity of the chain gets bigger you know i i do think zete's gonna bring a lot of people over because people did like fantasy top was really really big uh it still is
and for the the mid creator the you know the smaller guy to have a chance to actually win
um i think this is going to bring a lot of people on to abstract but well that was actually another
question i had about c uh i was asking this yesterday i mean is c like super
abstract focused in some way or or is it yeah um i mean well we'll be we'll be on abstract i mean
it's gonna it makes sense for us um like we have grind coin on abstract uh bearish is on abstract
uh the abstract team uh is a big supporter what we're
doing finn and uh and sygar so like yeah there's gonna be there's gonna be an abstract component
to it so yeah i've seen sygar's post he said i'm i'm my hold on let me go back and read it so i
don't misquote the guy but he said i'll do everything in my power to make sure zeet succeeds
we will do our best to make a fair social five product that makes sense for all participants uh see you soon which is a surprise
because they two weeks ago they just got fucking shat on beyond oblivion right before nft nyc
uh because of you know posts about support and you know in my mind at zeet's a different animal
like we know ponds we know like we know the team
building it so there's a difference between a platform like what it sounds like seats meant to
be and like just any given coin or an ft project that pops up at any point yeah yeah no just because
some team goes and meets the team in a fucking in a telegram builder chat and they have a fucking
facetime call doesn't mean they're
still not going to rug or still not you know abuse the the platform that they propose to build to
uh abstract you know they're just people are gonna if you're gonna rug you're gonna rug or
you're gonna you know fuck things up um but just as as quick as the other stuff had just happened
that's why i was surprised to see sygar's uh tweet so the team
actually you know has confidence in it so i think the i think the the clear delineator here between
that and what zed is zed is not meant to be extractive uh from a community aspect so um it's
it's supposed to be additive right i don't think a lot of people talk about this um or maybe they
do i just don't i haven't seen a ton of it on about this, or maybe they do. I just don't, I haven't seen a ton
of it on the timeline, but like you look at, you look at projects like Cato, right?
They are getting paid six figures to work with some of these companies doing airdrops, right?
So what, you know, people don't talk about, yeah, they get their free money, their 20 bucks or
a hundred bucks, but they don't talk about what, how much C their their free money they're 20 bucks or 100 bucks but they don't talk about what how much kato's making right so i i think it's i think it's
important to understand that like if you can build up enough um enough mind share on the timeline
uh that is attractive and that could be monetized and it doesn't need to be extractive from a
community standpoint so that's kind of just like one of the things I'll call out.
But yeah, I think that's the reason why it's like,
they want less extractive stuff on abstract in general
and more added value, right?
So if we're able to add value to it,
then we're gonna get that support in a big way.
Yeah, no, I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it to drop do you have any idea of
when this is actually gonna any is there any way you can talk on that like when it's gonna actually
come i i don't know if i should uh if i can say this or not but it's it's gonna be it's probably
gonna be in the next two to four weeks. Um, something somewhere around there. All right, cool. Yeah. No, I'm here for it. Uh,
Demi, what's up? How are you doing? Jim. Hey, GM, everybody. Uh, you guys have changed topics,
but I came up to say something about, um, Carlos retort to your question about, um, basically
time sharing with other, with other communities and projects.
And my takeaway from that and from the foreknowledge
that I had of vibe coding is it reminded me
of that parable of giving a man a fish
and him having one meal and giving, you know,
teaching a man to fish and him obviously being able
to sustain himself.
I think that like we see over and over and over difficulty in, you know, just getting over that hurdle of how to monetize things like games. I feel like it's a completely different angle and corner that we,
in fact, haven't seen at least not often in this space.
I think it's really innovative and I really think it's positive for
the bearish community.
And then of course not everybody's gonna utilize it, right?
Not everyone's into that or wants to learn that and be a part of it.
But obviously, Carlo and the team have other means of giving back as well.
But yeah, I just, that was all I wanted to say.
And then you guys switched topics.
But thanks for letting me up.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
No, I think that's a really good point.
And I mean, it's participatory, right?
Like people who want to participate
are going to participate.
And there's going to be holders
that just want to vibe and see what happens.
And that's cool too.
You know, there's no rules again against either of those.
So like whatever, any, however, anybody wants to kind of contribute or, or, or participate,
or if they just want to play games, like, you know, we're going to have a suite of games
that's going to, you know, happen either from the community or things that we build.
And that's going to be cool too, you know, happen either from the community or things that we build. Um, and that's going to
be cool too, you know? So I, I, I really like the idea of building together really, you know,
it really brings to the forefront, the community aspect of things for me. And I'm always going to
be a big community guy. And then in terms of the time aspect of, of, of what, what's going on,
I mean, we've got essentially, you know,'s scotty toli myself that are kind of
leading the charges on a lot of stuff uh you know but we also have support a support team too
of artists um you know we also have another operations uh lead to kind of help with the
art team and things that we're doing over there um so like we are able to, you know, work well together and also work well separately.
And we all, I think we all have ADHD too. So the hyper-focus is a superpower in a lot of ways. So
we can kind of get, we can get more done that, um, in less time that most people take more time
to do, um, just because of that ADHD. Yeah. I know you guys are busy as fuck so uh because then on top of that
in the back and you also have drip as well uh or yeah you know it's got you know and we have
two dedicated we have two dedicated uh devs that work on the drip stuff uh but yeah we're we're
working on that as well but that's that's kind of our um that's our flagship product right
i mean that's in tons of discords with like six million users so like like that is gonna you know
that's always gonna be at the forefront of everything we're doing like uh we just we just
integrated some some new game like our economy uh mechanisms into some new games that were been
beta testing for the past couple weeks in the Discord,
where you can open up a Discord activity and play in these tournaments of these games that we got.
There's one going on for until, I think,
Monday or Tuesday next week.
You know, those are kind of our beta testing grounds.
So we'll develop new things,
test it out in the bearish Discord
before we release it out to the wider Discord communities
that utilize Drip in their Discords. in the bearish discord before we release it out to the wider uh discord communities uh that use
utilize drip in their discords so like um you know we're here to innovate but also help others
right so i think that's the best way to operate um it helps it helps growth overall and that's
something that we really need because otherwise there's just going to be like you know two two
thousand of us maybe left that are going
to be just swapping eth back and forth forever yeah it seems that way right now um that's why
i remember seeing a tweet a long time ago it's just the same five thousand people screaming at
each other on x um and that's it so you know i i'm all for it bro um i love bearish i think it's
the most underrated uh community on abstract um and the
art is fucking clean and dope so um if you don't have a bearish you know not just the the the
community and the 404 side and everything else but everything else that you guys are doing so
pretty much everything you guys touch bearish uh community members get some type of piece of or you have an opportunity
um you know to kind of get like it's probably the one of the most ultimate like whitelist
uh access accessible to other brands on abstract nft you could hold um you know and the more you
hold the i'm sure the more access you get i don't know heard rumors of 20 20 plus or some shit like that so um you know i don't know if that is that the
whale size in in bearish yeah i think 20 20 is the whale size there's yeah there's probably like
maybe 30 or so people that have about that um but yeah i mean i mean
the 404 aspect of things i think a lot of people don't, don't know about, or, um, maybe don't quite understand yet, but I think once we, once we open that up, it'll be a lot clearer.
But obviously if you have more bears, you have more tokens essentially.
So, I mean, I think that's, uh, you know, people are going to ask, how do you get pre-sale?
Well, just have a bearish and hold on to it.
It's probably the best way to do that.
But yeah, we get a lot of collab requests.
We throw them in our whitelist channel.
You know, a lot of really hype stuff comes through.
But yeah, I mean, it's ultimately whatever people want to do, their level of commitment
or participation is up to them.
We're not going to force anybody um to you know to
to to do anything specifically but we'll want to make opportunities available when we can
and uh you know that's what we'll do yeah and a floor price of 0.0824 i mean that's that's
ridiculously cheap uh for a for a brand that gives back so much so yeah i didn't know they were that low
yeah i can stack that 20 real quick i've only got four right now uh yeah get back to the bullish
vibes you tend to look like you you want to drop the floor is that what you said yeah yeah yeah
yeah i mean everything everything is kind of down, to be honest.
I mean, I think even, even Bosu is below 0.1 at this point.
But yeah, I mean, NFC took a little bit of a hit the past couple of weeks,
but it doesn't matter.
It doesn't change what we do.
You know, floor price doesn't affect the things that we do at all.
I know it's not great from a, know uh expectation standpoint but you know um it
doesn't mean it has to stay there so we'll see yeah the that's one of the biggest arguments like
kenny's biggest argument is that there's just no volume on abstract uh yeah but look at when that
started that trend started like right at the same time like the Abstract volume started to trail off right when Luka that said that
The abstract token wasn't covered until kick four now definitely had a big spike in volume
But everybody was trained for Melios and Bosu there was like two weeks of like Dremelio and Bosu where there was like all kinds of volume
But yeah, man, I mean I just I think right now is a great opportunity on abstract to be far better stacking assets
Preparing you are a big spike in volume that I think will happen service
You know abstract token the TG feels more and what are you gonna buy is just garbage projects over there?
You guys just seen the bozos they release for you guys. I
Mean there's a few good projects. I like the boasters a lot. I like the bearish a lot
Trying to think of what else I even have right now
I know I keep training these champers expose guards every time there's like a buy a $5 NFT quest on open seat
We're also we also have the Red Bull
Round two dropping
tomorrow. Then on top
of that, you have Wolf Game
that I'm pretty sure is going to be
coming to Abstract within the coming weeks
as well. Yeah, that could be a cook.
That could end up bringing... It's going to bring
a lot of people over. I mean, it's definitely
bringing Seed Fraze over
because he has the largest bag
in fucking Wolf Game,
then I'm curious and I asked him, was he going to bring back the sheep swap and have the
abstract team have that as a something on the platform to where people can go do that?
Carlo, I don't know if you're familiar with with what he was doing with
uh sheep swap but i think we're gonna see that as a um as a project that gets listed once wolf game
comes over and it essentially the guy had so many sheep uh in wolf game that people would not they
would you know in wolf game you would have to your sheep
would run out of energy so it would have to rest over a certain amount of time for it to recharge
and you to be able to start getting wool and so this guy had so fucking many you could go into
his sheep swap and exchange one of his sheep that are fully charged for your depleted sheep at the same price uh and there's
like a small fee there but it he was making money at the same time but also you know providing he
was essentially like allowing the game to continue going 24 7 uh if you wanted to swap your sheep
constantly so i think wolf game brings a lot of people a lot of ogs uh that
have been still holding that even prior to blast you know that's going to be interesting but they
still got to migrate all the from blast back to um you know back over to abstract so that team has a
lot of work to do but i think g funk and them will get it going bro what are they going to do to
revamp this thing what's the token allocation and everything else that's why that i don't know they're gonna have
to come out with new token they're totally new tokenomics and gameplay and you know they bro
they could come out and say now you got to collect the sheep shit and the sheep shit helps you do
this and like who the fuck knows uh you know seed phrase gave up two crypto punks for fucking wolf game
assets so you know he's heavily invested so it's going to be interesting to see what happens um
let's go to two time real quick before we shut it down because i do have something i gotta do at 12
uh two time what's up hey how you doing uh good when you were just talking about you know flow
prices and stuff like you know like carlo said flow price i don't
i you you know i don't look at it i was about to say normally but i just pretty much don't look at
it at all but um there was a post this morning and it said which one of these poll of the week
which one of these projects i posted it up top it said is currently the most undervalued and yeah from carl oh yeah
actually yeah who's there who's who's a bearish holder and i don't know why he didn't put bearish
in there but yeah go ahead yeah he's a creeps holder and didn't put creeps in there yeah what
the hell what the hell carl come on carl get your shit you're one zero you're one0 away from being a legend, Carl.
My response was none. I think they're priced
at what they should reasonably be
at this
ATM, at this
moment.
I just think that
ebbs and flows, you just got to go
with them.
For the most part, four prices like in my mind
four prices two things it's what the team has delivered and speculation on what's being delivered
like that's that's it and i know a lot of these brands that have i'm looking at it now creeps was
in there um i i know what they've delivered a lot of these and what is coming uh you know
on this list right here you know whoa you're rugging like a motherfucker bro
he's cubed you're cute he's just he's just kyle you're rugging. Looking on this thing right here, for me,
one of the biggest ones that's undervalued
is Sugar Town and Chimpers.
Because I know both of those teams
are building the fuck out of shit.
Creeps, obviously, because I'm a Creeps Maxie.
Fucking way undervalued.
Doodles, way undervalued. I mean, every one of these are undervalued uh doodles way undervalued i mean like every one of these are undervalued
in their own way uh that's that's what i was getting at when i wrote none like they're all
undervalued but they're there's a that's that's the common thread they're all undervalued right
now yeah but i look at it with none i'm in the market did clayna soosaurus partner with who the the no sausage thing or whatever nobody sausage yeah
yeah i don't know what the that is there's a coin there's a coin for that uh yeah it's pretty
popular i believe on social media that that uh character um so yeah i did see that they did
announce that or put out that video or whatnot.
I would say NFTs across the border undervalued right now.
I mean, look, you got board apes barely hovering over 10 ETH right now, 10.74, um, only 12
sales over the past 24 hours.
You got pudgies under 10, uh, eight sales over the past 24 hours.
It's more a situation of, you you know it's just not very liquid
jpegs are somewhat eliquid uh right now just because there's not a whole lot of volume pumping
into them i think you know at some point when nfts do have this you know surge in popularity again
and and you know you start getting a big inflow of capital back into nfts i think things are going to run so
i mean i do think it's a good idea to you know stack conviction community plays you know because
at some point i mean everything's cyclical in a sense of you know we had the big run-up in 21
you know it's been you know pretty quiet relatively since um and at some point we're
going to have another huge spike in volume just across the board. Something's going to happen. So it's more like a lack of liquidity coming into NFTs more so
than anything else. I still think there are really good brands out there building good brand exposure
IP. And at some point, people want to start buying NFfts again i mean there's obviously it's a niche
sector in crypto you know you gotta love artwork you gotta love communities you know to be in nfts
right now um you know and right now it's just a little bit more popular to trade coins meme coins
and whatnot um but you know at some point nfts are gonna get the spotlight again and i think there's gonna be a huge inflow of capital coming back in so we'll see though yeah um all right i got people texting me uh blowing me the fuck up
kids all kinds of stuff um yeah kyle uh be safe uh go get your little puppy or dog or whatever the cat whatever the hell y'all are getting i think it's a dog puppy yeah uh i'll look forward to seeing that thing later on tonight um carlo
thank you for coming in as always bro uh yeah you're um yeah you're always dropping some good
alpha for us so yeah uh but yeah i think we uh we have a sugarown bearish poker thing next week. That'll be announced on Monday.
Let's go!
I'm in that.
I'm actually in...
I forgot I was in this tournament right here.
As soon as he went to Sugartown,
I forgot I was even in this.
How many bearish NFTs do you have?
Zero!
Shut the fuck up, pussy!
Bye, everybody.
They're only .08.
All right, cool.
Yeah, everybody have a great day.
And tomorrow, Creep Space, talking creeps, everything creeps, everything coming from creeps.
What time is it?
Same time, 11 o'clock.
And it'll be an hour, hour, maybe a little bit longer because it is July 4th.
But either way, we still show up.
So, yeah.
So we'll see you guys tomorrow.
Peace out.
