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Reality Check: WTF
Recorded: Jan. 21, 2026 Duration: 1:40:17Space Recording
Short Summary
Crypto enthusiasts are buzzing over the upcoming TGE for Moonbirds and the significant airdrop opportunities from Gway, while discussions around the evolving landscape of airdrops highlight a shift in market expectations. Additionally, the Ace Trader competition promises a million-dollar prize pool, attracting traders eager to capitalize on new financial games.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Oh Oh, okay. Thank you. Early in the morning, rising to the street, light me up that cigarette and I'll strap
shoes on my feet. I got to find a reason, reason things went wrong.
Got to find a reason why my money's all gone.
I got that damnation, I could still get high.
I can play the guitar like a motherfucking riot. I am. Take a small example, take a t-t-t-t-t from me, yeah Take all of your money, give it all to charity
Life is what I got, it's within my reach
And the soft lifestyle's still straight from long
It all comes back to you, you're about to get what you deserve
Try and test that, you finally get served
Love's what I got, don't start a riot
You feel it when the dance gets hot
Love is what I got
I said remember that Love is what I got. I said remember that.
Love is what I got.
I said remember that.
Love is what I got.
I said remember that.
Love is what I got.
I don't cry when my dog runs away.
I don't get angry at the bills I have to pay.
I don't get angry when my mom smokes pot.
Hits the bottle and I cry to the rock.
Fuck it and fight it, it's all the same.
Living with Louis is the only way to stay sane.
Let the lovin', let the lovin' is what I got
I said a little bit of that
Lovin' is what I got
I remember that Lovin loving is what I got. I said, remember that loving is what I got.
I said, remember that loving is what I got.
I said, remember that loving is what I got.
All right. so that's all right yo gmg m gm gm gm kenny powers kyle alex gm i just had a flashback to uh
my 20s right there yeah uh thanks to wheels for that song uh He started singing it or he did something.
I don't know the fuck he did, but I just had it stuck in my head at that point.
So, yeah.
But anyways,
GM everybody, welcome in
Repost the Room. Drop any
comments, questions live on Kick Abstract
into X.
Ready to get to it, Kenny.
I felt kind of weird about
the space today.
Yeah.
What do you mean, here we go?
Here we go.
I don't know.
You deal with this, Kenny.
You deal with this.
I don't know what he's talking about.
What are you talking about?
I'm just saying that I'm just saying that I felt
weird about the time.
That's all.
Yeah.
I mean, I felt weird about the space.
That's it.
Why do you say that, Cheese? I don't know.
I just felt weird. Like, this morning when I
woke up, this was way before anything
that's happened throughout
the day i felt what's happened throughout the day jeez nothing i felt weird about the space
like i don't know what yeah i don't know just like i don't know it just felt like i didn't
want to run the space today for some reason yeah but i'm here we're showing up showing out we're gonna talk about a bunch of
fucking shit and uh yeah we're gonna get it uh alex gm how you doing sir
gm sir yeah i'm good i'm good uh you're the only one up here with a good looking pfp so
i know i know all of these losers so i'm involved to buy an energy team what the fuck yeah i know i'm right there with you what's wrong with
my pfp well it's not a genuine undead it's just uh uh wannabe i mean it's a gen it's from the
genuine i guess it's not from the same artist technically but it is a uh you know if this
was a m'lady derivative it would be on the list of approved derivatives.
No, I mean, yours is a very good looking BFP, Kyle.
Don't get me lying.
Really well, I'll tell you that much.
But, you know, nothing goes better than the OG, the genuine PFP.
I'll say this.
I'm glad you didn't capitulate to peer pressure
and change your background color
because I think that's a fucking top tier
looking genuine undead right there.
Good looking, good looking PFP.
Oh, okay.
And if Cheese was a GU,
he would probably look like that.
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know what I would look like.
You ever just peeled the skin off his face and put a cowboy hat on him?
Yeah.
Spot on?
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that.
I feel kind of violated there.
Well, this is what happens when you spend so long in the trenches, man.
Well, I'm not really in the trenches either, so I don't know what to go there.
I tried to get into the trenches, and then a little Filipino boy rugged me.
I don't know if that's what he is, but yeah, that's what I'm claiming he is.
Or is this Kenny not giving you ECA earlier?
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't put that on me.
Yeah.
Don't put it on me, Alex.
This is somebody else.
Somebody else.
But either way... By the way, I am Palestinian, not Filipino.
I know they both start with a P, but...
By the way, the same coin
that Jesus is implying he got rubbed on
I'm currently up on, just for the record.
That's because you got in a little earlier
than me. That's why.
It's because I click
buttons fast, brother.
I click them buttons.
Okay.
Well, a lot to get to.
Kenny, one of the biggest things
yesterday was the ETH gas claim
Gway, and a lot of
people didn't get it. A lot of people didn't go tweet.
They didn't verify. They were all pissed off.
Pranksy didn't get it. You didn't didn't go tweet they didn't verify they were all pissed off pranks he didn't get it you didn't miss out on a lot like what in a big big old fat airdrop
i think at the time when i claimed my airdrop i want to say it was worth like 140 bucks
um somewhere around there what did you were you able to claim?
Yeah, I was.
Okay.
I mean, the chart's gone up only, right?
Yeah.
Look, no selling pressure from airdrop people as of today. So you don't have to worry about a huge dump.
And yeah, I mean, it looks like it's uh turning in the right direction
almost i mean look it is it is going in the right direction kp but um you know
the airdrop people aren't the only ones you have to worry about dumping right i mean this token's
on a bunch of exchanges already i'm assuming like mexy and them got some a little bit of tokens
that they could dump at any moment too, right?
It is listed on multiple centralized exchanges,
and usually the agreements are some type of allocation for the exchange itself. So, yeah, we'll see what happens.
But, yeah, overall, I think, I mean, listen, it's free money, whatever.
We'll see where it's at in 30 days from now.
It wasn't much.
I believe, where's the token at right now?
Three cents, roughly?
I just think the rage about it is so funny. All the people I saw raging because they didn't do all the steps.
By the way, I also was ineligible, as we discovered yesterday.
By the way, I also was ineligible, as we discovered yesterday.
I'm not mad.
I find it hilarious that we will all connect our wallets to any website that implies an airdrop without reading anything.
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty funny because Tima put out a post and he was talking about the, let me share this tab. He was putting about it and put
out a post talking about it. He shared three different images with three different amounts
and the distribution made no sense. So the wallet, the first wallet he had, had i guess had 1312 beans he got 3316 tokens the second wallet
had 2775 beans and got 3151 tokens so he got less he got less tokens uh for more beans
then the third wallet or i guess which was, so I guess the first two weren't him.
The third wallet was 6,147 beans, which was Tima,
and he got 3,316 tokens, which is like wild. So less the beans with 1,300 beans got the same amount of tokens as he did,
which is the other side of that i don't
know how they weighted it maybe it's if you did a lot of the other tasks uh did some other did some
other things i don't know he said we don't hate these people enough farmed entire ct to raise 12
million only to give us all pennies then force us to stake it for 30 days.
Well fucking played team.
Don't do it.
This is,
I don't understand the crying about like,
I had,
I mean,
I'd like to know if anybody else had like crazy numbers compared like that,
because I gave,
I put mine in there and I had 4,900 and I had 4,901 beans and I got 5,566 tokens.
So how they did it, I have the slightest clue.
Yeah, I think my bean total was 4,300.
Okay, but what was your token amount?
4,895.
Okay. Yeah, so almost token amount? $4,895. Okay.
Yeah.
So almost a one-to-one.
I don't really know how they...
I don't know either.
Yeah.
I have the slightest clue.
It's whatever.
That's worth what?
About $150 or anything?
Yeah.
For me right now, it's worth $180.
I look at it as, hey, thank you.
All I had to do was tweet and verify.
I appreciate it.
I hope the price is somewhere near this or higher come 30 days.
And we'll see what happens.
But either way, it is what it is.
It was free money.
Exactly.
It was free.
What are people thinking about?
I know.
I've yet to do it is it still open or
yeah yeah it's still open yeah i would go i would go claim it now if you can and stake it i mean
it's in the jump i don't know right or is that the other one uh which one did i put up there
gas foundation no that's a different one isn't it yeah i mean i quote tweeted the uh the address
so yeah if you look at that tweet you can still go to that east gas foundation.org
and that will show you where it's at so um but yeah i mean i like yeah it's free money so who
gives a fuck either way guinea um i'm here for the free money, so just keep fucking doing it.
We get 10 of these this year.
Cool.
Made a little bit of money.
The problem is everybody's used to the airdrops
we had last cycle, you know?
Last cycle, bro, we had
massive fucking airdrops, right?
Yeah, I think I got like 800 bucks worth
of that SOS airdrop,
and I had been in the space for like fucking five minutes.
Like, I had barely done anything, you know?
Yeah, the Penguin airdrop was pretty nice, too.
Jupiter was pretty good, too, wasn't it?
Coin Kong, I'm trying to bring you up.
It was, yeah.
Yeah, I'm here.
Oh, he's here.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm up.
GM Coin Kong. Oh, hey. here. Okay. Yeah, I'm up. GM going by.
Maybe Button keeps activating itself here, too.
This is kind of interesting.
We'll see how this goes.
Yo, what's good, boys?
How's everyone doing today?
I also can't see CoinKong as a speaker, even though I'm a co-host.
That usually doesn't happen when you're in the co-host spot.
Boy, this is going to be a fun day.
How are you doing, Coy Kong?
Yeah, yeah.
X been crazy the last couple of days.
Even trying to get co-host spots and stuff.
Like, get on stage.
Shit goes completely mute.
You're like, what the fuck is going on right now?
Yeah, I see, like, Captain in the morning.
He has a hard time with getting people to being able to see hands.
And I'm like, well, we don't ever put hands up.
Nobody ever fucking does. They're not respectful enough. Yesterday, I couldn't even get, like, well, we don't ever put hands up. Nobody ever fucking does.
They're not respectful enough.
Yesterday, I couldn't even get, like, I was co-hosting for Burden.
And I couldn't even get people on stage.
I'm like, what the fuck is actually going on?
Yeah.
Stop it.
Oh, thank you, Alex.
We appreciate you putting hands up.
Might be nice.
What's going on?
Anything exciting going on today or no uh no i mean everybody got their airdrop um
you know or their claim for the gassing or those that did participate uh so got those chicken
nuggets and uh you know people bitching a lot of the other spaces this morning, I've seen a lot of people bitching about the undisclosed payments,
you know, obviously from Whale and now Orangey, 17 hours ago, his dumb ass.
He replied to somebody asking him about it
because somebody figured out he was paid $35,000
to tweet once about Trove.
And he got paid $35,000 to tweet once about Trove.
And he got paid $35,000 for that, and he disclosed that.
Who was the other guy?
Kenny? TJ?
TJR? Yeah, TJR.
He got paid $45,000.
Whale got, I think,
$8,000.
So we're coming down on it.
Go ahead. When the team was expecting to keep $9.5 million
to pay $35,000 to get somebody to tweet about it,
it's like chump change, right?
When you're sitting on $9.5 million
that you're keeping for yourself
out of a $12 million raise.
So yeah, crazy, crazy work.
I do think that Wales whales slash is going to be
successful i do too i like listening to uh listening to uh serpent yesterday on alpha And him talking about if you go and slash, say you, if you went and you actually gave a positive review for Whale at any point, it like it behooves you to go and fucking slash him.
Because if you don't, you're going to lose the points.
But if you go and slash him, it's not saying that he's a bad guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He fucked up.
But if you go slash him and you gave a good review,
then you would not get affected if the slash is successful.
But if you sit there idly and you're like, oh,
I don't want to publicly slash him or I don't want to slash him at all,
you know,
and the slash goes through successfully,
you're going to lose your points.
So it's a matter of,
oh, do I want to be liked by Whale?
Or Whale doesn't give a fuck about you
or anybody in this room.
So if you did go fucking,
if you did go give him a positive review one i want you to
do some self-reflection two you need to go in there and slash the motherfucker because otherwise
if you care about your ethos well if you care about your ethos score then you don't want to
be affected so go slash them so you're protected if you don't give a shit
then who gives a fuck who cares if they
disclose
it doesn't matter at that point
like does that bother you coin kong
that somebody doesn't disclose
like if you see orangey post
about a project you know
that motherfucker's getting paid
yeah for sure and I think
look it's kind of like for me in between.
I think personally on a moral level, I would always say that I was getting paid to tweet for something, right?
Yeah.
And then there's some accounts like Whale or, you know, Orangey or all of them that like if they tweet that like i 100 already think that
they're being paid for it so it doesn't matter but the in between there is like then all the
new people coming into the space they're getting fucking that are investing in your mic yeah oh
sorry sorry yeah you got fucking weird feedback coming through again. All these people coming in that are new that are investing into these projects, right,
now are getting rents because it wasn't disclosed that maybe it's going one way or another.
I think that everybody should disclose it, right, just on a moral compass,
just to protect the new people coming in, you know what I mean?
So they don't have a bad taste in their mouth for the first thing that they may have invested in in the space you know
and then i think for the rest of us like we all we already all know like you got you guys
definitely got paid so i'm not you know what i mean like you don't need to disclose to me i
understand you know yeah well i mean you know outside of, if there's a paid promotion, it has to be disclosed.
According to the FTC, you know, like it's always been known that if you're getting paid to show
something, you know, legally, you're supposed to disclose, you know, that it is a promotion
through like saying this is an ad or a, you know, something along those lines, you know, so,
or something along those lines.
But in crypto, people feel like it's not necessarily needed.
So, yeah, it's legally...
It's not necessarily regulated, is what you mean.
Exactly.
They're not guaranteed to do it yet.
It's going to get there, though.
They're going to have to do it.
It's the Wild West here, so why bother?
Yeah, bro. I i got a exciting day uh so chris meach saul and actually maha is here i believe
we're coming out to see me today to shoot some content bro so getting stuff ready i'm about to
do a tick tock live with mich. Just cooking some fucking breakfast, bro.
Yeah, man.
I got fucking excited for what is coming up.
What does a guy like Coin Kong make for breakfast?
Big time chef like yourself.
You got to be doing it.
You got to put a little pizazz on it, don't you?
There ain't no way you're just dumping some Wheaties in a bowl, right?
Yeah.
I'm making breakfast burritos.
But the thing is, is like sometimes the basic stuff is the stuff that gets the most motion.
I've noticed over posting the last few weeks.
It's the things that are like super basic. Like I'm throwing some eggs, tater tots and fucking bacon in.
And I bet you that this fucking video gets at least a thousand views, which is great
because I have less than 10 on TikTok right now. And two of them have more than 5,000 views already.
So, you know, I'm just trying to put out content that is not, not every piece of content has to
be fucking killer, right? So I'm just putting out stuff now that is even basic. Do a live,
do it with, do it with a friend, get a little bit of traction that way, and just
do stuff that I'm going to be doing anyways, right? I cook breakfast almost every day for my
family, you know? So that's easy content. That's something that I don't mind doing on camera while
I'm doing it because it only takes me 20 minutes, you know? Yeah, absolutely. Hey, just on the,
geez, I was, I had my qa in here when you guys were talking
about the whale thing um i gotta say i was listening to um captain and coffee this morning
too i like captain and nothing against you know anybody on that space but i gotta say the like
is it just me or does this entire reaction to this situation seem a little
disproportionate? I just, I don't know why anybody is surprised by any of this, any big
I think it's overblown for sure. Yeah. It's like, dude, first of all, we are all financially
incentivized to post about the things that we're posting about almost 99% of every now and then I will talk positively about something that I have no bags in.
But for the most part, if anybody's talking about anything, they're financially incentivized.
Granted, they're not being paid. Maybe they do actually believe in it because they've
bought a bag or they wouldn't have if they didn't believe in it. But I just, I don't know, man,
this desire to make the entire space safe let's like
regulate everything let's put bumpers on every corner so nobody gets hurt it's like yeah because
joey was on one bro joey guy was like you know you should have a responsibility if an agency even asked
you not to disclose then you should i'm like I'm like, no, dude, fucking mind you,
like,
and then what?
And then these agencies ain't gonna fuck with you no more.
Like, I don't, dude,
like, I think everybody
just move however the fuck you want, right?
And like,
if you are making good calls
and people fucking notice
that you have a positive track record,
you'll gain motion.
And if you're taking undisclosed shills
to shill people dumb shit, you know, you're taking undisclosed shills to steal people dumb
shit you know you're gonna lose motion when those people lose money
hold on just one more thing because he even said one other thing specifically
um he kept saying that like like people like myself that don't care about this or whatever
are like gaslighting the space or whatever.
It's like,
I'm part of the problem because I,
I'm not going to shout from the rooftops about undisclosed show.
Look,
I don't like whale,
but I don't like whale because he's a negative fucking bitch all the time on
the timeline.
Like every time he even thinks he might lose money,
he wants to run a fucking thread,
you know,
about shit like, like that whole, that whole SOMO thread the other day. It's like, did you haven he might lose money. He wants to run a fucking thread, you know, about shit.
Like that whole SOMO thread the other day.
It's like, dude, you haven't even lost money yet.
The company just got sold.
And here you are funding your own bags.
That's why I don't like Whale.
Bro, he's not even...
This guy gets paid to tell people about SOMO.
He's not even invested in SOMO.
I don't know.
It's just that...
I guess at the end of the day, my point is,
I like the Wild West nature of this space.
In chaos lies potential.
And if you can learn to surf the chaos,
and I know that this is not everyone's opinion
and you can disagree with me, you know, whatever, dude.
Some people want this space to be a lot safer than it is.
I like the wild shit.
Anyway, I guess that's my take.
Sorry, go ahead, Kenny. No, I guess that's my take sorry go ahead kenny go ahead yeah i think you're like i agree with you like people are gonna get motion to a certain
extent but this space unfortunately will will rally behind people just because of money so
they'll eventually get too much money out of just fucking people and then they'll just be able to
have that motion still it's a it the wild west
portion i'm here for a hundred percent but we're gonna fuck ourselves and get the circles get
smaller and smaller smaller if we keep doing this and not protecting anybody coming in and so
it's hard i i agree i don't want a regulated space it's the reason let me just pause you real quick
how did the space get as big as it is to begin with then?
Because, like, granted, the number of participants goes up and down in the short term. But on the long term, the space has definitely grown over the course of the last, you know, five to ten years.
You know, I mean, the space is a lot bigger than it was.
And you can't make the point.
You can't convince me that there was more regulation in the beginning.
No, there definitely wasn't.
But I think people were forced in with COVID too.
Like we had like a really weird catalyst moment that I don't think this space was ready for.
Like we didn't have the regulation and the amount of people that came in likely wouldn't have come in if they weren't forced at home.
So like we had like this really weird like transition phase that I don't think was natural.
And so we haven't gone through all that pain of
figuring out who's the who or how do we protect us.
Because even ethos isn't protecting us.
We look at how flawed,
like there's positive feedback loops to do the wrong things.
So I don't know.
I just don't know where this,
there is no right answer here.
We're all going to go back and forth with our takes.
I think that's the hardest part is that's why this this space exists is because we all agree that the regulation of
like web two was bullshit. And so we came over here to go, okay,
I don't want those rules. I want to be able to move my money in my way.
But that came with the, you know, I'm going to get fucked.
I don't have FDIC backing. Someone can, you know, just take my money.
Like, I don't think there's a situation in which we get to have both,
but to sit here and boohoo over it's like, I think it is that.
That's part of what this space is, is self-custody, self-education.
Like, it is supposed to make you a better person
and probably make you more aware and a bit more critical.
So pros and cons to all of it, man.
I just, I don't think the saying, hey, they get motion because of this or that or the other,
the money will make them have motion.
Look at Threadguy, look at Frank, all these people who definitely did damage.
Yeah, I agree.
I just, look, again,
this stuff is all,
you're at the cutting edge of the risk curve here, right?
And like, you know,
you either need to be deeply researching things
if you're going to throw a significant bag at stuff,
or if you're just going to spray bullets
at every single thing that a KOL puts on the timeline, they need to be small enough bullets that you're completely comfortable with
missing the target, right? Like, I just, I don't think that there is enough fucking account,
self-accountability, to be honest. And like, look, again, if you don't want to like, if you don't
like that Whale was doing undisclosed shills, it's like, you know, I hate to tell you this,
but all your favorite KOLs are either fucking, you know, I hate to tell you this, but all your favorite KOLs
are either fucking, you know, they're probably shilling you shit undisclosed. And it's like,
I always say about myself, if I'm talking about something that is not an indicator to go buy it,
it may be an indicator to look at it. But like, dude, even if there's full on social consensus,
you still shouldn't be, you still
should not be risking a meaningful amount of money without doing a significant amount
of research is my point.
And I just think that people ape shit.
And when it doesn't work out, they want to fucking string somebody up over it.
And it's just, I don't know, man, just like know where you are.
You know, if you want to be safe, stick to the stock market
or something, or just buy gold. I don't know what to tell these people. And I know that I'm not
probably even in the majority on this, right? But this is just how I feel. I like it being wild.
Anyway.
Diversify your bonds.
Holy shit, he held it in. Jesus, dude, I'm proud of this guy. he held it in jesus dude i'm proud of this guy he held it
in for the anyway what's up to johnny i don't know where the jesus went go ahead buddy what's going
on with you oh nice i got the mic um i i wanted to say that uh uh whale got too much attention the last days. I mean, everyone is talking like he didn't disclose, he did that.
Bro, it's common sense that all of this are not disclosing.
He got caught and yeah, should they disclose it?
Yes.
Should they get slashed for that?
Yes.
I mean, who cares?
In the end, does that mean that he will get less deals?
No, it doesn't mean he will get the same amount of deals as he got now.
Nobody cares if he has 200 points less on Ethos or not in the end.
Come on. I just think that it's cool that people are talking about and bringing awareness for all of these young MFers who are coming here,
that they should disclose.
Because, yeah, some of them are behaving like in the Wild West.
If they wouldn't be, there wouldn't be a trove.
Because this guy with the Richard Mill, which is a shit watch, is standing there and is probably 25 years old or less.
is standing there and is probably 25 years old or less.
And he is thinking everything that he has stolen is 10 million.
Nobody will find him.
And it's not a problem, not me or anyone who invested it.
I haven't invested.
But someone will find him and he better be safe.
better be safe. I don't want to go around with that and yeah I wouldn't wonder if also
I don't want to go around with that.
Weil and all of these others who not disclosed it will get on ZAC XPT's next rant on them.
So yeah I mean.
I don't know. Fuck ZAC XPT too. Bitch blocked me just for having a SOMO.
He is also just a paid bitch. He is also just a paid bitch.
He's also just a paid bitch.
I say fuck him just because he blocked me.
I mean, overall, he's probably been a net positive for the space.
So I'm sort of saying that in jest.
I'm not sure if it's net positive, but he is probably also...
I don't know if he discloses that he is paid by almost every blockchain.
And when he attacks Monero, spreading information that there was a hack on Bitcoin and they have washed everything through Monero, that is a little sketchy.
Is there any other privacy protocol included in that attempt? Who knows?
I mean, it's just something I'm thinking about. It doesn't have to be the truth.
Yeah, fair. What's up, Alex? And then we'll say what's up to Hans, my brother. But yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, but can't we just complain about where when he says Dubai to every single girl he sees on the timeline?
Shouldn't he be counseled for that?
Yeah, it's like sexual harassment, right?
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, are you in Dubai?
I'm not.
I wish he would say Tennessee.
Well, if you're inviting me to Tennessee, I'll come to Tennessee.
No, I'm talking about Whale. Not you. Well, thanks you're inviting me to Tennessee, come to Tennessee. No, I'm talking about Whale.
Not you.
Well, thanks very much.
But you can come to Tennessee.
Come on.
The thing is, nobody knows how Whale looks like.
So, yeah, she has made a face.
I have a fucking feeling.
I have a pretty good theory of what he looks like, Dijani.
He's probably a fat ass, right?
No, I don't think so.
I think he's probably tall
and very...
Yeah, how to say it?
Sam, Dijani, tell me you're touching yourself
without telling me you're touching yourself.
I know. Dijani's getting
a little excited. He's probably tall
and muscular with deep
ocean blue eyes. No, I don't think
he's muscular. Let me go look for
Dajani's defend tweet
or message on this ethos
board here.
No, I haven't
even slashed or defended.
You better go do it.
In the Bible,
I'll defend you, Dajani. I don't care
if you did copy-paste those tweets.
Yeah, sometimes it's gold when you don't say anything.
And you said the Bible said that?
Oh, yeah.
Somewhere in the Bible is that the priest has talked about it.
Somewhere in the Bible, the priest has talked about it.
Okay.
All right.
We can't wait till Sunday space, to johnny um hans gm
sir what's happening how we doing guys hope you're good good good i was just uh the whole
whale thing for me this just proves that the whole concept of ethos doesn't work
i mean i agree people that are popular that get the votes
and you're supposed to look at his
score and say, oh, this is a reliable guy. No, it's
not. He's just the biggest liar
and get the most points.
Yeah. I 100%
agree. I've said this before. If this was
last cycle when Ethos came out, the number
one score on that leaderboard would have been
Chillin' Villain with his army of red
question mark MFers right up until he launched the fucking network token right i mean it's it's just another
it's just another like metric for you to socially engineer a bunch of motherfuckers right off a
cliff yeah well i mean look at kook for example his score is 358 untrusted but how many people go ape is called you know and but then he's quick to get on a stage
and on people right going gong oh not just right not just not just on a guy like coin kong but
grave dancing on whale not being so unaware of the fact that people already had screenshots of his deleted trove tweet he was
dancing on whale for getting called out and literally fucking hours away from deleting a
tweet that was the same shill i mean you can't make this shit up but but let's be honest he
he was thrown by whale hundred times so he waited for his opportunity to shit around,
which I don't think is good.
Yeah, but the question is, how relevant is Ethos?
Because like you said, Kuk with a 350 score,
still getting deals left and right, right?
Still out there doing his thing.
Outside of people who use ethos
like new new entrance into crypto are they going to go to the ethos website to figure out who they
can trust no they're not and that was the thing that they were talking about in the space yesterday
with serpent was that it's incredibly difficult to like how do you get people onboarded to ethos, normal people? Like there's so many, you know, and it's difficult.
And he was even asked another question and it made me realize that they don't
scrape any data from, uh, X API, the official way, but I think it was Kyle.
Wasn't it you that was asking for, yeah, Kyle was asking for a, uh, in the daily tasks to actually see people he knows.
And, and he was like, no, well, it's, you know, I'm not paying $50,000 a month, uh, to go scrape
that data. So your daily tasks are any better. Yeah. And by the way, again, and I say this all
the time, I basically find ethos to not be very useful but i do think
it has potential to be useful i do think serpent is a intelligent well-intentioned individual but
you know i just i don't know man like trying to condense everything down to a number and then go
okay this guy's number is high so if he he says this, I should go do that.
It's like, you still got to make up your own mind.
You still got to watch motherfuckers, right?
And by the way, a guy like Kuk with a fucking terrible score,
if he calls a coin, you know,
there's a chance that that coin is going to run
because he does, like, people know
that there's going to be a lot of attention and that's all that matters
when it comes to meme coins is attention. Right. So like, it's just,
it just,
it just completely depends on what exactly it is that you're trying to do in
this space as to how you should move.
And you got to learn how to move in this space if you're going to be
successful or even survive at all.
It just is what it is.
If you
want to be safe, there are other
places to play in a much
safer sandbox. This sandbox
is on fire.
But I love it.
Enough of all that bullshit.
Do we think the The burb
The fucking burb token is coming tomorrow
Like is Moonbird
About to TGE their coin
What makes you say that
Well I mean they're doing a 24 hour
They're doing a 24 hour
Stream tomorrow
With Solana
This was announced a few days ago
The 24 hour Solana. This was announced a few days ago. Uh, the 24 hour Solana
Barbathon with moon birds. Like, I don't know what they're going to be doing for 24 hours. I would
imagine it's going to be packed with guests. Uh, I would imagine they're going to be ripping open
the, uh, the Barb collectible boxes doing things like that. But like there's been a massive increase in the,
in the soul bound tokens yesterday on the 19th,
they had the meteor,
moon bird soul bound token.
Now they just announced 31 minutes ago.
the moon birds,
telegram stickers,
soul bound tokens are now live.
you can claim one free soulbound token per
sticker pack on based on the sticker type you hold a moonbirds original moonbirds set to sketch
moonbirds set to color uh this claim is for only users that used at burbish bot on telegram
uh to us uh to assign a solana wallet address to their sticker holdings so that's
for moonbirds mythics and oddities uh holders are not allocated any additional soulbound tokens
and but i don't know but the claim is live until the 25th so i i don't know it's just really odd
timing that they're shocked if they just full-on TGE'd at a moment's notice.
But it does seem like a lot of...
Did they?
I thought people knew what was coming for a little bit more than four hours.
Well, I mean, we knew it.
It was a few weeks.
He announced it at Art Basel,
and then a week and a half later, we had to token.
Right.
Look, I would agree with you that this all insinuates
that they are building momentum to,
like it implies a proximity to a TG,
but I'd be shocked if they TG'd like on stream tomorrow.
It's not possible though.
I mean, it would be, it would certainly be interesting, right?
It would certainly be the talk of the town.
You know, again, attention being perhaps the prerogative here, maybe.
I don't know.
But I wouldn't expect it anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is, so this is, man, I don't know.
They've done a lot of different Soulbound tokens.
So either way, could be something coming pretty soon.
Maybe we hear the date tomorrow during the 24-hour stream.
I'm not sure. I'm going to check in on it, see what
it's about, see what's happening.
And then, you know,
just kind of
see what the fuck goes down. But I think
that's going to be an airdrop that everyone
has an opportunity to get a piece of.
It's going to be, I think it's going to be
like the Pengu airdrop.
Is it going to be as valuable? I don't know. But we'll see. I think it's going to be like the Pengu airdrop Is it going to be as valuable? I don't know
But we'll see
I'm trying to remember what I even made on that
I would say definitely not
I will confidently say that Moonbirds
Are not getting a $100,000
Airdropper NFT right now
I will say that with my whole chest
Yeah, I would say that as well
And I'm a fan, by the way
I like the moonbirds ip
um yeah i think but they could still get up it just doesn't have uh i don't perceive it as having
the motion that that punchy penguins has well i mean penguins also were sitting at a 30 32 each
floor which was at the time right around a hundred thousand dollars which the airdrop
allocation was pretty close to that if you were able to sell right away um yeah but if they
announce the the tokenomics and moonbirds are going to get x amount of what i mean it's not
going to be a rocket scientist to know that they can run up to that dollar amount what i was going
to say was that the the floor price of the the NFT was relatively equivalent to the airdrop amount.
And it always seems to work itself out like that.
Same thing happened with the Zookies.
They shot up to 12, and then once the tokenomics came out,
people readjusted.
Like, the floor price readjusted to the amount perceived.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
So right now, Moonbirds are sitting at two ETH,
which is right around $6,000.
Yeah, 2.1, too.
It would be interesting to see an NFT floor price skyrocket
because of the tokenomics for a change, though.
I mean, it's always been, like, even or less than.
Like, with Izuki, it was an adjustment down, right?
Once they figured out the numbers.
Pudgy Penguins, it was basically even. You
know, even with Creeps, when we figured out the portal allocation, we were, you know,
the NFTs were overvalued based on, based strictly on the tokenomics of portal at that moment.
So you know.
Well, and a bunch of spreadsheet math too.
How if we got 2,500 tokens, it was $1 and our NFT was $5?
That's why I said a lot of spreadsheet math.
Yeah, there were a bunch of different assumptions
on how much creeps would get allocated.
You know, like some people were saying,
what was it, like 10%, 15% of the...
All the way up to 30%.
Right.
It was dumb numbers.
Yeah. Yeah, was dumb numbers. Yeah.
Yeah, pretty dumb numbers.
But, yeah, I mean, 2.12.
Imagine...
They can definitely still run up, I think, quite a bit from there,
which could be an opportunity.
opportunity when they do start running up and they drop these announcements you could possibly
When they do start running up and they drop these announcements,
see an odd a better entry into uh board ape and pudgy because people possibly cheating some of
those to go jump into moonbirds real quick thinking they can make a quick flip and get
an airdrop and then cheat it and then buy back their ape or whatever so could be some opportunities uh
you know across multiple nfts so yeah we'll see what's going on um alex you have a question you
yeah do you think that their strategy token will uh have some movement as well maybe i don't know
or down or up i don't know uh i i'm not really sure because i don't think they really do anything
with their strategy coin do that well the strategy coin is kind of its own thing right it's it's it's
its own mechanic they don't have yeah but yeah but it's got plenty of moonbirds in the in the
treasury so yeah yeah but some of these brands do stuff with their tokens so that's what that
was one of my main questions uh right now the burp strategy is holding uh 63 nfts
so the cheapest one being 2.2 uh 2 eth and these this is one of the collections
that originally got fucked with, remember?
So, like, these run all the way up to 6 ETH.
And then the ones that the guy was, like, trading and flipping and flopping,
it goes from 6 ETH to 8.4 to 8.760.
And then there's the first one that he was able to fucking raw dog at 27.6 east so that one i don't think we'll ever get
sold but yeah i mean they only have 67 nfts but i mean it could still cause a pretty significant
run up uh because right now i mean their tokens only at 1.2 mil so you might get a couple of
multiples there um you know but it's it's also a matter of how high does the floor
price go it could also dump right like what if the tokenomics end up looking super lit people
want to dump whatever the hell they're holding to try to buy more nfts i mean i don't know it's
that's a little unpredictable in my mind right now yeah yeah i. Yesterday, speaking of token strategies,
yesterday, Good Vibes announced that their NFTs are now going to be listed on OpenSea.
So you can go over there and buy those.
Totally fucking flooding the market.
Yeah.
It's pretty cool, though, cheese, because like, particularly it was.
Well, the reason being is because you had to actually go to the you know the nft strategy page to find you know good vibes club owned uh nfts and
buy them directly off of their website now that it's integrated into openc um just because of the
burning mechanism for the token you know like if people are buying it obviously 99 of the burning mechanism for the token, you know, like if people are buying it,
obviously 99% of the shopping happens on OpenSea
as it's currently constructed right now
because of the farming, right?
So like how many people go to NFT strategy
and buy NFTs and opposed to OpenSea?
Well, the people that know,
but now they have 845 NFTs listed
out of a 7K collection.
That's not very fucking bullish in my opinion.
That's a lot of NFTs that is listed that it's going to take a long time to chew through.
For sure.
But the positive is that each time one of them sell, it's burning the vibe strategy token.
Yeah, I mean, I get the,
I understand the flywheel fully,
but it's still, it's like, fuck.
You know, that's good for the people
that got in early on the vibe strategy.
I mean, it's at an 8.75 mil market cap right now.
So that's good for the people that bought early on or you know
but even before this that's cool um but i don't know i'm just like 435 nfts is a lot of nfts
to chew through right but those were listed any regardless it was just listed on a different site now they're kind of merging the
two so it's not like the listings were less prior to this happening they were the same it's just
it wasn't showing up on open scene now it is so perceived listings to people who aren't paying
attention to the token strategy site though certainly i don't know i think it's basically
a wash like moonbirds is going to have whatever motion they have i don't think it hurt or anything i don't know yeah yeah yeah yeah i agree
uh it's gonna do what it's gonna do so uh yeah we'll see what happens aurelius what's happening
are you back in the uh in the uk or are you still stateside? Hello, Governor. Hello. I'm back on British soil.
Nice.
How does it feel to be now just like you're in prison now again, right?
I mean, you come from freedom.
Do you know what?
I don't know what it was. And generally, I keep myself out of geopolitical issues, etc.,
because they are what they are.
But why did I come away from your land disliking Trump?
And I'll be honest with you, I don't know the guy.
I know that he's got the business acronym.
He's had a few questionable decisions in his life.
But the guy, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, just left a bad taste in my mouth.
Who's that, Trump?
Yeah, I mean, who knows, though?
Who knows?
We could meet each other as voles,
but you will be a vol and I will be a brave soldier.
I'm genuinely curious.
What happened in Tennessee
that changed your opinion of Trump
that you didn't already have via the internet?
Yeah, because this is one of the reddest states in the country.
Yeah, so I didn't really have an opinion on Trump
because, as I said, I wasn't really interested.
He just, you know, as well as.
But it was when I opened the news and i was looking and i saw the
tariffs being imposed on europe and i was like oh and then i was seeing the greenland things
kicking off properly and i was like oh wow i remember a certain nation that tried to impose
stiff taxes on us boy a fucking cosmic karma coming back around.
Yeah, I mean, there was a whole fucking revolution about this.
It's a good point.
It's a good point.
We made a White House.
We'll give you, you know, certain holidays to celebrate.
You've kept the tea.
But yeah, I don't know.
It's a Greenland thing.
It's a Greenland thing.
It's not the Tarant thing.
It's a Greenland thing. It's a Greenland thing. It's not the Terrence thing. It's a Greenland thing. I think if you have a set... So the Falkland Islands is a really good example because that's the British land, so to speak, and Argentina would like that.
the islanders would turn around tomorrow and say well actually we want to be uh argentinian then i
think they should be able to do that that makes sense and i just think it's wild the president
wakes up in the morning if you want a little bit of lando here i think i'm going to enjoy it
i will say this though aurelius and depending on what news network you are watching you're going
to get two different perceptions and that's the the problem with the United States as far as our media outlets goes.
They're extremely biased one way or the other.
They either have liberal news or conservative news.
And if you flip back between the two and watch, it's like they're telling two different stories about the same situation.
I completely agree with your statement on mainstream media,
but I will say that I think if you took polls
of the conservative voter base before the election
and then again now,
I bet those polls would look a lot different
on Trump's approval rating.
There is a lot, look, I don't like to talk politics a lot, but I will say I think Trump has done a lot of things that have made even his own voter base a bit uncomfortable since stepping into the White House.
Maybe not lived up to a couple things that were promised, so on and so forth.
to a couple things that were promised,
so on and so forth.
But, you know, if I was going to be...
If I was going to be gracious with my assumptions,
I would also say that, you know,
if you're in the first year of your presidency,
that's a good time to do a bunch of shit
that's going to make people uncomfortable
and then, you know, start trying to win everybody back.
There's being uncomfortable, then there's like,
you know, that little island over there
I think I'm going to go and acquire that
Because I could do another state
Cutting about the gas
I mean I'm just waiting until Canada becomes America
Like the United States
Of the whole western hemisphere
Better Canada
To be like fucking
America than the UK
You know I don't know what we would do if we had all the Muslim courts and you know, people getting fucking stabbed and shit, you know, you can't even go to the UK anymore.
Juice, juice, juice, juice, juice, stop it.
You silly, silly sausage.
You boys are over there with AR-15s, submachine guns, light machine guns, and you can buy them next door fucking at Walmart.
I mean, that's a very common misconception.
You cannot just go somewhere and buy a fully automatic weapon.
I love that you guys think that we're that awesome, because let me tell you, buddy, that
would be awesome.
But you can, in fact, not walk into a store and buy a fully
automatic anything brother but that's the same misconception so i'm glad that you pointed it
out because that was my entire point there you don't just cut about the gap in the uk and get
stabbed on the corner for wearing you know your freshest nike maxes um. We have certain issues. That Muslim call on was a wild comment,
a wild comment,
especially when I drove past one in,
you know,
the deep red district of Tennessee,
not 24 hours ago.
So I think,
I think it's just called multiculturalism,
isn't it?
I, I used, did you go to any gun ranges when you were in? isn't it? No.
Did you go to any gun ranges when you were in Tennessee?
Let's get away from politics and find out if Aurelius managed to blow
anything up and have some fun
in the land of freedom while he was here.
No, I had a lot of fun, but there was no
gun ranges, I'm afraid.
There's a good shop up near Nashville where you can
get suppressors um
and they sell a plethora of them and uh they have some pretty good deals i want to actually go check
it out um so yeah you could have got a good deal on a gun i don't know how you would have got it
back into the country but well um i mean i've got ideas but what I will say is that I enjoyed my time. I always enjoyed my time over in your country.
But I also like being in my own country as well.
There's nothing wrong with that, you know?
People grow up in a certain environment, they get used to...
Honestly, it's not that dissimilar from my point about crypto Twitter, right?
Like, you learn how to move in the environment that you're in, and people, you know, tend to have preferences for that, you know?
Well, because it's quiet,
I saw today eight Blackhawks with Trump in it.
It was really crazy.
You saw eight Blackhawks?
I told you not to go to Black.com anymore, Dijani.
Anyway.
No, no, there have been Blackhawks? I told you not to go to black.com anymore, Dijani. Anyway. No, no, there have been Blackhawks and they have shipped Trump to Davos today. It was cool.
I see shit like that all the time, dude. There's a giant underground military base right across
the valley from me. When COVID first hit, I was watching those vertical takeoff airplanes,
those Ospreys. I was watching those go overhead takeoff airplanes those ospreys i was watching those go
overhead non-stop filling that place up with supplies and shit it's pretty cool yeah but not
trump was in them in this black hawk scene one of them has been the president of the united states
so it makes it more special oh you're making it seem a little dangerous, like that you know his specific location in Black Hawk helicopter that he was in, Dijani.
I don't know.
What the fuck just happened to Jesus?
Jesus sounded like you had a Black Hawk in your mouth there for a second.
I have something else to say.
What else, Dijani?
Do you know who wrote me yesterday?
Nikita Beer, and I helped him to fix an issue on X.
I didn't want to, I didn't want to, yeah, how to say,
to post the pictures, et cetera,
because maybe he writes me another time.
But, yeah, it was cool.
Can you go tell him to get me out of my detox that I'm in?
I hope I get out of the detox also.
Well, you got to quit copying, motherfuckers,
or you're going to be slashed on Ethos next.
Oh, tomorrow is the end of Metamask season one,
so better swap around, guys.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, the fight ID, ticker fight.
Johnny, I think we had a talk about this yesterday.
The eligibility checker is live.
Is anybody going to be eligible for that?
For ticker fight?
Kenny, I'm surprised you didn't.
I must have missed this.
Can you give me the rundown on ticker fight?
This is the token that is the official token of the UFC.
I've seen a couple of these official fucking UFC grifts get launched in the past.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
This is the official partner of UFC and Fight Foundation,
developers of UFC Strike.
Is there any indicator as to what goes into eligibility uh that I'm not sure I think you had to participate in like a bunch of shit
like for the past few months this was a pretty big act uh tournament on zeet um they haven't
announced what they're going to do for the rewards but i don't think they did
but it's going to be um it's it should get i would imagine get paid out fully uh from that
i know kaido announced a bunch of um i know kaido did announce a bunch of their rewards
that were going to be distributed even though though the, you know, obviously the platform
is down.
But they did end up putting out a post, I thought, about the brands and what they were
going to be rewarding people.
So, but I can't find that post.
It's somewhere though.
Jesus Christ, Kenny, at the beginning of the space,
Bitcoin was at 90K.
Right?
Yeah, it just cracked over 90, yep.
I know, but I just got a notification saying Bitcoin's at 87.
Yeah.
It's taken a pretty nasty dump here in the past hour.
Johnny, what is Trump doing over there, bro?
Oh, she is assuring us that he just wants a piece of land called greenland
oh my god juice what is going on uh yearly open retest okay can you explain that for people that
um we're looking for the mid-summer retest?
The mid-summer retest?
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I mean, it's testing.
What do you mean you don't know?
It's testing the supports.
Do I got to get Claude to fucking tell me what this is?
It's testing the supports, man.
I don't know what you want me to do.
This guy is about to do this guy literally
about to make this guy the third co-host the fucking reality check and you failed
miserably kenny still thought btc was above 90k i know i know no it was it literally in the past
hour it's gone from 90,292 it's currently 87,87,755. It's dipped $3,000 in the past 45 minutes.
I think SB was right.
$57K is inbound.
$57K.
Do we kill ourselves or not?
What are we doing here, guys?
No, no, no.
We'll find out right here because we're, like Drew said,
we're right at the yearly open. So this is a level of support. We'll see if right here because we're, like you said, we're, we're right at the yearly open.
So this is a level of support.
We'll see if we can maintain this.
If we go lower.
Yeah.
It's not going to look pretty.
Huh?
That sucks.
Yeah.
I was like, hold on.
I know I wasn't fucking dreaming that I said kenny bitcoin's back above 90 and then
here we go so you shouldn't have said it it's like don't screenshot it um yeah what else uh
what else is going on what what else are we digging today what else is happening
uh brooklyn beckham is a hot topic uh i'm gonna talk about this
i don't i don't know fucking free brooklyn or whatever's wrong with them i don't know what's
i don't know what's going what i mean juice can you give us some insight there since you're on
the fucking ground uh at the brooklyn beckham compound uh can you tell us what's going on yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know
what they're doing neither do i uh but the price is up so it's cool what there's an actual brooklyn
beckham coin i just mean at least creeps aren't in in the twos anymore they're in the threes. So it's pretty chill. Fucking hell. Super duper is
now pivoting to TMZ.
Yeah, I don't know. Kyle, what was your take?
Your mic's open. Do you have something to say?
I don't know, dude.
I don't want to be negative.
But then, okay, then just mute your mic.
I love me some creeps.
I will, however, say I feel like I'm currently owed two roadmap items,
and today is January 21st, so I don't know.
Now Proof of Lizard has a line through it, a red line.
Hey, conveniently, my machine just blew up.
Of course it did.
It looks like they want to start it right but then as soon
as the macro sort of rips back uh they sort of pull back also right and then they release a
filler tweet right and i mean it's it is what it is right it's cool i mean hopefully once we get
some green candles on all these macro charts and people have a little bit more confidence,
they really start rolling it out.
Yeah, yeah.
Wheels, straight in from the back of the Brooklyn compound.
Do you see anybody leaving the back gates?
What's happening?
You know, I'm thinking that maybe this whole virality
of Brooklyn Beckham fighting with the family
is all part of the hello humans um you know roadmap item right this could that could really
have been the start so we don't really know how involved or uninvolved he actually is with all of
this so it could be really bullish okay uh kenny what's your take so did you not even see the tweet
um yeah no i saw it um i'm fairly familiar with what's going on i don't think yeah oh you're
familiar with uh brooklyn beckham's whole scene i know that he doesn't have a good relationship
with his parents since he married that girl. That's all I know. Okay.
So yeah, I did see some stuff
on the timeline yesterday regarding it.
So yeah,
I think this is 100%
unrelated to anything to do with
creeps. Sorry, Wills.
You're trying to be optimistic for everyone
here, you know?
I'm looking at the honorary
creeps
in their wallet on OpenSea
and that creep
is there. Lorelord's creep is there
and Joe and Dom's.
does anybody
know? Wait, how did they get
Lorelord's honorary?
I don't know.
I'm just this is No. Wait, how did they get Lorelord's honorary? I don't know. He had that.
This is...
He sent it back?
When you go on it, it says owned by Lorelord.
When you go on Brooklyn Beckham's, it's owned by Buster's 7777.
Let's go check out Buster's wallet
Let's go check out Buster's wallet.
Buster's got
himself a V-friend
a fly fish club
a Cryptoads, a Clone-X
two Crypto-Skulls
and two alien friends
Man, a fucking creep is way
Oh no, it's not an actual creep
So it's the, yeah
He's got a purple alien friend
with a claw machine.
He's got a bunch of fucking...
Oh, Doracells. Remember those?
Door darsals?
Wheels? I think you traded those pretty heavily.
Yeah.
He's got a
fucking plethora of bullshit
in here. Little Lemon Friends. I remember them.
We used to call those
door darsals butt plugs really yeah the things with the eyeballs right yeah yeah yeah yeah what
were y'all doing weirdos um ben used to be the community manager for them right oh yeah yeah
yeah that's right that's right i forgot about that um but yeah this wallet
hasn't had no activity in forever bro uh but both of them both it shows all of them in the wallets
but um they are it still shows that it's owned by someone else so i don't know i don't get that
um i'd have to look into it more uh let's see brooklyn beckham the last bit of activity
on this wallet was 1 105 days ago that was the last activity on this guy's wallet um
and he is currently holding 1.03 eth in his wallet and he's got 66.43 BOOP token.
So, yeah.
There we go.
But, yeah, I don't know.
Maybe they're just trying to stay culturally relevant
is what's going on there.
I think he don't have his keys anymore for his wallet, probably.
You don't think what?
Yeah, that he don't own his keys anymore for his wallet, probably. You don't think what? Yeah, that he don't own his keys anymore for his wallet.
Oh, okay.
I'm picking up.
And I did look into that because all the media is talking about him.
And my wife was also like, oh, you need to hear this and blah, blah, blah.
And yeah, she has a pretty dirty fight with his family.
I don't know why they don't do that at home,
but with all the people outside,
maybe they want to get some money from his family.
So maybe it's just a British thing to go outside and fight.
Yeah, maybe.
Another interesting... Oh, go outside and fight. Yeah, maybe. Another interesting...
Oh, go ahead, John.
Has anyone had
the problem with the Windows
authenticator that
he gets the message if
I want to approve someone from
another country? I changed my
password and everything.
I'm not sure, but I'm starting to think that. it might have not been Nikita Beer you were talking to.
Yeah. No, no, it's another mail. I have 15 email
addresses, but still, this one was on PayPal, so
I need to change my PayPal address.
Yeah, I'm not sure, bro. Not sure on
the tech support there.
I'm so paranoid.
I have 15 email addresses, and I don't know how many wallets,
and still someone spoofs me.
I don't understand that shit.
Yeah.
I don't know, Dijani.
Not sure what to tell you, bro.
Let me get Banz up here. See what's cracking with him.
Let's see.
All right.
Bandits coming up.
Kenny, what else did you have to run down today?
Do you got anything else?
I mean, there's really not a whole lot happening right now.
Except shit.
Just watching. Yeah yeah just looking for plays
all right uh bandit how much away did you claim bro to make out i don't know what the
fuck happened but i wasn't eligible even though i had like 4 000 beans or whatever
yeah a lot of people did not they tweeted but they never went back and verified the post
that was the problem oh damn was it worth a lot did you get yours no no i mean i got
i got on the higher end but right now it's only worth like maybe a couple hundred bucks 190 bucks
a couple hundred bucks today is like five bands a year ago.
So let me take those.
Yeah.
I mean, hey, it is what it is.
It's auto stake 30 days.
We'll see where it's at in 30 days.
Nobody's around to sell it.
So the price is, I mean, the price is just going up and to the right.
Well, I'm happy I got something.
But yeah, it's like someone said I was looking at my phone phone but there's not much happening like there's actually nothing going on bro
this is why gil.fun could cook then right because it's not much uh nothing else going on
i i did say i think it was yesterday i wouldn't be surprised if we have a little mini ponzi
because like there's nothing else going on anyway. Yeah.
I know, you just can't get a fucking code.
Well, I haven't tried getting a code, but I'm sure we could get one
for that.
Yeah, I mean, they just did it.
Has it started yet?
I mean, if you have a code,
you can get in there and I think start sharing
codes. I think it technically started
yesterday, but yeah, it's not
like public access
yet.
No. And this is from the same
team that was addicted and all that stuff.
But I mean, it looks
pretty good, the videos and shit that they made.
It's got the guy fucking laying in
the bed jerking off and shit and fucking
some other kingpin guy sitting
in there watching a flat screen TV and it's pretty good stuff so uh we'll see i mean they keep cooking ponzies and
making money uh i don't understand why nobody calls them out for doing a ponzi which is literally
um someone is losing money but for a 8k but i don't know if you're wearing right now started
with a ponzi there, buddy.
Some people like Ponzi.
Some people know that they need to sell, and other people don't, and that's how they learn.
Anyway.
Yeah, don't be mad because your boyfriend, Wale, is getting slashed right now, and you're mad that he's the only one that got called out.
All right?
Don't do it.
Bandit, I saw you're in the Ace Trader 100, bro.
Congrats.
Yeah, actually, I just got off a call with NFT stats.
It wasn't a live stream, but he might post some clips from that.
Is he doing that?
Is he doing the Ace Trader thing?
Is that like his thing?
Or he was just one of the creators in there? No, no, he's on the team. Oh, is he? that is he doing the ace trader thing is that like his thing or he was just one
of the creators in there no no he's on the team oh is he okay yeah i knew he was on for oak space
and i couldn't remember what uh what he actually did over there so that's cool for anybody that
doesn't know this ace trader 100 a million dollar prize pool to the top um are we are we calling all kols here what are we calling all traders experienced
traders um in this tourney yeah um dude that's a lot of money up for grabs so good luck bro and
i hope you kill it well they just put a free to participate so like you're not
like there's really no downside like worst case you get to practice trading and best case you win a million dollars but i mean because what are you doing
starting with a bag that they provide obviously it's probably not real money yeah it's like demo
money demo money yeah well i must share this tweet at the top uh because they did tweet four hours ago, public 80 spots are open.
Earn yours at acetrader.com.
So you can actually go get signed up for this.
Kenny, Juice, fucking anybody up here that's on stage that can,
the wheels, all you guys, anybody can fucking do it.
80 spots are open.
So go fucking get it.
Now, but they're giving away a million dollars yeah even more um so one million is for the number one like whoever wins the whole thing but there's prices for the top 25
i don't think they've um announced what price is the top 25 yet though only the one bandit let me
ask you a question they give you a like you become a first million dollar trading fund that's money
to play with and any money you make off of that million you keep for yourself is that
correct is that how it works i'm not sure i'm i'm actually not sure i i know there's one million but
i'm not sure if it's like if you can withdraw it immediately or uh yeah right that's a fucking
great opportunity bro i'm looking at this right now. Fucking in, bro.
Kenny, right now there's public qualifiers are live right now.
Everyone can join.
No excuses.
Connect the wallet on Ace Traders.
Start free trial or subscribe to a plan.
Go to leaderboard to share competition post trade during the period.
And then that's how I guess they're going to give you the, I guess the 80 spots maybe.
That's my assumption.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, hey, you fucking claim to be the quant of Web3.
So, you know, get over there, bro.
You can trade off to 40X.
Yeah, you.
I mean, I'm not a great leverage trader, bro.
To tell you the truth, I think this is more of like SB's alley.
He could probably kill it.
Claude-coated, bro.
That's all I'm saying.
You know.
Just build it.
Hi, OXD.
Bro just uses all the buzzwords.
I'm sorry that my co-hosts are not being very hospitable right now while I'm busy at work.
How are you today?
Well, we were in the middle of talking about something, cock boy.
So go back to your fucking printing press.
Goddamn Benjamin Franklin.
Cock boy to Benjamin Franklin.
Yeah.
Anyway, over to you.
What's up?
This fucking guy comes out of the bathroom from wiping his ass and is like, oh, there's
a hand up right in the middle of us talking about something.
We appreciate your attention
all right fucking shit uh let's try this again ox what's up yeah what's up thanks for having me up
uh first time on the space i just thought you guys like a part of rug radio i don't really
i'm trying to figure this out but no no no i was like i mean i i don't even for up won't even reply
to me no more all right fucking for your own thing you got you yeah yeah yeah but we i was like i mean i i don't even for up won't even reply to me no more all right
for your own thing you got yeah yeah yeah but we i was creator for them for like three years and
then all of a sudden myriad markets came and they like told all the creators to like
off so i don't know what's going on yeah they didn't tell us that but yeah we do our own thing
cool um i just i had two things to say.
First of all, on the Addicta.fund slash Pandemic Lab slash Jail.fund situation,
I think an honest Ponzi is fine in crypto because in itself, it's a financial game.
And like, let people play an honest Ponzi.
You know what I mean?
Like, as opposed to something saying it's not a ponzi but everyone kind of knows it is and
some people get duped and don't know it is um so i think an honest ponzi in crypto is fine and it's
fun and people find that fun i'm not gonna play too busy but fuck it like let can you name a
ponzi that was actually honest in the back in the day because i don't i mean yeah like like they're
doing an honest ponzi i would argue that um do you remember um zed racing zed do you remember
those the digital horses in 2021 people made really good money off that i think it was a pretty
honest ponzi like you kind of knew it was going down there i'd argue axie infinity was a dishonest ponzi but most people knew it was a ponzi um i think a lot of the early web 3 games like even
on wax blockchain i don't know if that's i don't know if anyone remembers what the fuck that is
but um they had a bunch of ponzies that were pretty honest that i had fun with back in the day
oh yeah i remember that so like fuck it let it you know? I would not want to be doxxed and doing an honest Ponzi.
I think that's fucking scary as shit.
I know the current administration is like, you know, you can do whatever.
But I think, like, you probably need a good legal team in order to run one of those.
That's probably my opinion there.
The second thing I wanted to say is this ace trader stuff is pretty fucking interesting
um pretty interesting i like how it's not just ko wells i think that's what's going on like anyone
can join um so you know you almost have like nothing to lose and you just like
you know max short bitcoin or whatever do whatever the fuck you want 40x blow up your account and
just if you don't hit it move on um i'm just like i like those kinds of games i
like financial games obviously i'm building one myself won't get into it not not the purpose i'm
up here i just want to shoot the shit but i like i like that the space is heading into like doubling
down on crypto being a financial game and knowing that speculating
on tokens is the product and more or less like everything in crypto trades like Tesla
or GME.
And like, that's really fun in the stock market.
Knowing things aren't tied to fundamentals.
Like most tokens aren't tied to fundamentals.
They're, they're tied to sometimes insider wallets, sometimes memetics, sometimes virality.
And like, that's in itself what makes crypto so fun.
Obviously don't lose your shirt.
It's kind of a form of gambling, do whatever the fuck you want.
But the honesty of moving forward and being like, this is a degenerate financial game.
Enjoy yourself, have fun and play it
and see if you have an edge um i think is good i think it's a good thing that's really it yeah i'm
looking at this right here so the the different things you can do uh for a starter kit it looks
like it's nine dollars for is that nine dollars for 30 30 days? And you get $1K in capital?
I don't know.
Am I reading that right now?
I think I want to make a new wallet.
I don't really know if I want to connect them.
Yeah, I just connected an older burner wallet.
Right, right.
That's what I'm going to do.
That's all it is.
is. So there's meme and USDT, USDC. Um, and yeah, it's giving you different amounts.
So there's Meme and USDT, USDC.
Yeah. So there's a starter that's $99 for 30 days, then a standard for $99 for 30 days,
and then $169 for 30 days, but you get 20 K in capital for the max and one K in capital for the $9
for a month. Um, but you can earn $500 net profit. If I'm, I'm assuming if you're, you know,
uh, if you're, if you end up, I guess doing well, I'm not sure how the fuck this works.
I have to do a little bit of, do a little bit of research on this.
Either way, I would probably lose whatever the fuck I'm doing.
Yeah, I would say, Dima, the thing about,
and I hope I'm saying that right,
but the thing about Ponzi's, and I do like them,
is the sustainability of it. I think the most recent one we saw,
obviously Addicted and Bitcoin on bitcoin on abstract which did very
well for about a week but then you know reality came crashing down and uh it went to shit so like
the question is how to create a sustainable ponzi that can last more than you know a couple weeks
there's no that's the thing though i don't think there's a way to make a sustainable Ponzi.
That's kind of the point.
Like,
like play the game and try and like analyze inflows and outflows.
And there's no such thing as sustainable Ponzi.
There's other financial games that are sustainable,
but a Ponzi is not.
Right.
I mean,
there's a shelf life,
right?
But that doesn't take away from the opportunity to make some money.
I mean, I know some, there was somebody in our our uh back channels uh who did really well on the addicted
stuff he ended up walking away with like 60 grand yeah but that was more on the token side of it
um and opposed to like actually playing the game that is a big problem with these ponzi is they
have a game in itself but it's probably always better to just buy the token, which I think when you're designing a Ponzi, you should be really mindful of that and make it so that it's probably harder to just buy the token and it's better to play the game.
Because people get obsessed with playing the game and then they get fucked by the people that are just buying the token.
Like I remember, I think it's correct, I'm calling it Zed Racing.
I forget exactly the the digital horses i had a buddy who was super into nft gaming he played this game
called lost relics a shit ton um i don't know if anyone knows that holy shit dude i was oh my
i was on that shit and you probably know some of my buddies then because like they were top
lost relics players like they
do you remember this person named kenzie or striker they were huge lost relics guys
they more or less probably i can't remember because it's like five years ago now yeah
my friends stopped playing it a year ago so let's that's how damn bad they were but
anyways these kind of games i remember zed racing specifically i had a buddy who was like oh my god i have this
many horses i'm making 5k a week this is incredible and in my head i'm like dude like
that is not sustainable you should probably sell your initials at a minimum he got fucking
wrecked like absolutely wrecked but he was like if i make 5k a week for the next year like i could
retire like that was his that's why ponzi's pot bro we were doing the same thing with creeps when after creeps minted
it was the same i mean there were people in discord saying i'm going to my off my boss's
desk tomorrow and shit i'm gonna fuck off yeah like yeah like i mean people were thinking and
that's why ponzi's ponzi is because people see how much money they can make in like a two-week time frame.
They think the price is going to stay the same or keep going up or the hype there.
And they just FOMO and they start buying more NFTs.
They're not even paying attention to the price.
There was one creeps holder.
This dude sold two Bitcoin just for secondary assets and creeps.
So he could make more money.
Yeah, that's a danger.
Yeah.
When people start doing that, they're like, wait, i should liquidate everything because i can make 15k a
week yeah dude as soon as you're there people are smelling that and they're dumping on you like oh
yeah that wallet activity and they're like oh i can't wait for this guy to yeah yeah there were
people making insane amount of money franklin made i mean just an ungodly amount of money i think i
made about 25k in a two-week span,
but that's because I wasn't
reinvesting into buying more assets.
I was just every day
withdrawing, withdrawing, and opposed to
reinvesting, and that's where people fucked up
is that they were taking their yield
and reinvesting it into the game.
You're part of the problem.
If you don't reinvest in the game,
the game is not going on.
No, you're the guy I want in every Ponzi.
Yeah, everybody who didn't sell was the problem
because then they were pitching the whole time afterwards.
Why didn't I sell?
Yeah, but you couldn't sell.
Frankly, couldn't sell.
This guy couldn't sell.
But if we all would go together, wag me,
then nobody would sell and the price would go up
up up up up infinite up i should kick you again i'm gonna put you out of your misery yeah i'm
gonna kick him off the fucking stage yo i'm gonna kick this motherfucker bro fucking wag me
we need to multiply janny like we need way more of him if we can get like 5 000 jannies
then we've got a really good fucking ponzi like like we are we we've got a good game you know the
reinvestors um they're perfect el they're they're incredible we we love you we need more of you
however like i said i'm not i'm not gonna play this i'll probably fuck around with ace trader
i actually think the ux is pretty nice like good for them i don't think they've spent a shit ton on marketing clearly like a
i don't know how much they're raised i don't know if they're bootstrapped you know if anyone knows
the whale tweet about it no fuck you bro that was my joke i was fucking gearing up for it
i was gearing up for it i had it primed and you fucked it well i saw um i saw keyboard monkey and i know like
he's running yeet so kvm's good guy he's not yeah for sure for sure but he can't be cheap like you
know that was probably like a at least minimum 10 to 30k post uh from him and like you know you get
a few of those you know you gotta have big bags like we want to do a marketing campaign and like
you know we're raising money and it's
just it's just we're not in that fucking tier we're not in that fucking tier like if we're
going to do a paid post it would be like less than 5k followers we give you like you know maximum
one to two sold to play our game um and i think that's like that's a good niche in my opinion
like finding the less than 5k followers guys that are like, you know what? I want to take my first pay deal.
I should talk to David.
I think he like specializes in this.
I know.
I know.
David doesn't answer my DMs.
It's okay.
You know,
we'll get a little bigger and he'll start answering.
I know he's super busy also in his defense.
But I think what we want to do is maybe a little bit more bespoke.
So I don't,
I'm,
I'm more comfortable trying to just run it myself.
I got a lot of bandwidth.
I can do whatever I need to do.
But yeah, when we get to that point
where we want to do paid marketing,
I think I'm going to target the less than 10K, less than 5K,
people that haven't really done a lot of KOL deals
and are like, hey, I would do this for once a while.
Fuck it.
So wait, Dima, I see you're working on Token Draft.
I see that the bio is Daily Fantasy.
You're talking my language for digital assets.
Go ahead and give me a quick breakdown of what this is,
just out of curiosity.
Yeah, sure, sure.
So again, I did not come up here for that.
I always love it.
No, it's all good.
It's all good, bro.
But yeah, I'll rock it for a second.
So Token Draft is daily fantasy for digital assets.
More or less what that means is you buy into tournaments.
You select a team of assets.
We have two different draft modes that we're trying out.
One is like a classic fantasy football style draft where, you know, you pick a team of chains, memes, utilities, and NFTs.
utilities and NFTs I know NFTs crazy and depending on how they perform in the
I know NFT is crazy.
length of the tournament you get points 1% up 100 points 1% down minus 25 points
most points qualifies for a let's call it a poker stock poker tournament style
payout leaderboard I have a poker background so that's kind of what I was
going for and we just believe that you can have crazy
asymmetric upsides similar to perps trading or multi-stable poker tournaments or meme coin
trenching if we can pull together big prize pools and big buy-ins by putting the same multiple
drafts into the same prize pool. So what that would look like is we have a tournament running
at 6.45 PM today called the Crypto Coliseum. Everyone buys in for 0.1. Right at 6.45, all the drafts happen simultaneously. You draft a team of assets
and, you know, we just, depending upon how big the prize pool is, more players get paid out.
First place always gets 15% of the total prize pool. And yeah, we're like two weeks post-launch.
We're really fresh. We've been in beta since July, and we're really just comfortable
with where the product's at at this point.
So if you want to try it, hit my DM up.
You can join without a key,
but with a key, you also get more power rewards,
which is our internal rewards program,
as well as you get access to a daily free tournament,
which is literally free,
and we give away a little bit of Slana every day in that.
So yeah. Very cool. I i mean i dig it man i'm a fantasy uh junkie bro i do sports on everything you know um so so this is uh definitely something that has piqued my
interest i'm gonna check it out for sure oh yeah. And having said this, this is really just the beginning for us.
We have really large moonshot plans for this product.
When I say daily fantasy for digital assets, I mean all digital assets.
We're just starting with tokens.
But we want to do month-long drafts for RWAs, like Pokemon cards.
We want to do drafts for prediction markets.
We want to do drafts for CS markets. We want to do drafts for
CS2 skins, drafts for commodities and equities. We believe that there is a way to play the digital market speculation game through fantasy. And we think it's super untapped. It's much more casual.
You draft for 10, 15 minutes, and, you know, set and forget, check your
phone the next day, be like, holy shit, I'm in third place. I can make 800 bucks. I think that
is a really strong, um, there's like a lot of users that would prefer that than to enter a
perp trade and have to check their phone every five fucking seconds. Or, you know, you'll see
you buy a meme coin off pump fun. That's havingk. It's 3am. It's at 2 mil.
And you're like, fuck, what do I do?
Do I sell?
And I've traded a lot of Pump Fun, so I know exactly that feeling.
We think there is a casual crypto audience that would play a few tournaments a week,
you know, for buy-ins anywhere less than one soul.
And we're really targeting, you know, the daily crypto consumer that has a ton of alpha, but doesn't trade all the time because it's just fucking stressful.
So, yeah.
I dig it, bro.
I think you're on to something for sure.
You know, yeah, I love, again, you know, I'm like I play football.fun prediction markets.
I do the DraftKings daily stuff all the time on basketball, football, stuff like that.
So it makes sense to expand it into a speculative market like crypto.
It could be a lot of fun, and I think it can do pretty well.
So I'll be supporting.
I'll be checking it out, bro.
Dude, thank you.
Again, anyone at all that wants the key to get into free tournaments, just DM me.
I will respond after the space is done or during it.
I recommend doing that.
We have a shit ton of keys.
We're giving them out for free.
Don't worry about it.
I just prefer it be somebody that I spoke to or somebody that at least is an acquaintance,
which I consider you all at a minimum right now.
Bandit's a friend.
You can get there, maybe.
You can get there.
You can be a minimum right now, Bandit's a friend. You can get there maybe. You can get there. You can be a friend soon.
But yeah, we're really excited.
And it's just, you know, this whole space of like speculation financial games is, I believe
upward mobility is dead without playing a game like this.
Unfortunately, that's like we're in like kind of a late stage capitalism.
You could describe it as a dystopia or utopia, depending on how risk gone
you are. But I think people that take more risk and play games like this have more upward mobility
than, you know, having a 70 to 100k salary job and just being a wage slave for the rest of your
life. I know that sounds sad, but that is kind of where we're headed and have been headed,
in my opinion. Yeah, no no i agree with you and look
you know obviously i think there's a need for a new meta in the space like people are people are
looking for something to put money into right now obviously trenches you know taking a hit perps if
you're trading perps you're probably getting wrecked probably lost 90 of your port um you know
trading has just become a little stagnant as
far as price action goes so it's not
a whole lot of great plays out there right now
NFTs you know
with the resurgence over the past few weeks
continue to you know it's struggled
a little bit so yeah I think people
are looking for a new meta
so this might be something that can capture
the attention of CT relatively
quickly yeah I like the attention of CT relatively quickly.
I like the sound of this whole thing, but fuck a new meta, dude.
Bring back NFTs.
Go buy a GU.
Pussies.
Anyway.
That too.
That too.
No, go buy a Bitcoin puppet.
They're a cultural cornerstone of Bitcoin history.
They're the only ordinals project that will live on in years to come.
I knew Pete.
We're going to shill our NFTs right now.
We got to fucking shill the puppets, like i will i will die on that hill i spent fucking four grand on this thing and it's
down 80 and i don't give a shit it's my forever puppet and i can't wait to sweep the floor and
buy more that is the only thing i will hard show the only token i'll say this to you ox team the
one thing that i like about the bitcoin puppet shill that i get just shoved down my throat by
pete on a regular basis is the fact that there's no key man risk which happens to also be the case with
genuine undeads and it also happens to be a fucking og eip and not some fucking made up larp nft
fucking ordinal fucking narrative anyway i like the bitcoin puppets you guys are a fucking psychotic
community i kind of jive with you guys, to be honest. Fuck yeah.
I think they're the m'ladies of Bitcoin, to be honest.
I think they'll have a very strong
deep push later on
when all the Ordinals drama just
fizzles out and no one gives a shit.
I come from the Ordinals ecosystem and
funny enough, Token Draft is a pivot
from an Ordinals product
called SatScreener, which was a
essentially a deck screener for
Bitcoin assets. Um, we raised for that within three months, runes launched. I don't know if
you guys remember runes, you know, remember runes. Um, they just fucking went downhill only.
And we realized we were like, okay, we just raised all this money. We got to do something else. Um,
so we kind of pivoted to something is more in my strengths and my founding team
strengths. So like, yeah, I love ordinals and I love root. I love that ecosystem, but it's really
funny seeing the bag holders whine on CT. They're like, a runes coming back. And it's like, dude,
they are so liquid. They're impossible to trade. It is. And if you're like, oh, I'm waiting for a
Bitcoin L2 that makes it easier to trade runes. Buddy, wrapped Bitcoin on Solana and Ethereum is essentially a Bitcoin L2.
It is just a fucking psyop to think these other protocols are going to be sufficiently different than Bitcoin L2s.
I can go on on this stuff a lot.
I was really deep in it.
But like, yeah.
I mean, I don't want to be a i like the idea
of runes but if i'm being honest like if we have to put runes on solana in order to make them
tradable why wouldn't we just i don't know trade solana memes to begin with i don't know i like
ordinals a lot better than i like the idea of runes uh the only thing that put me off of
ordinals is the fact that we you guys just insisted that we call them ordinals instead of NFTs on Bitcoin,
because that's what they are.
Yeah, silly. You know, the guy, Casey, who is a brilliant dude, very opinionated, though,
he loves naming shit. I agree that they're, you know, at the very minimum, they are like
curios or digital assets on Bitcoin i always liked the uh the
moniker digital graffiti on digital gold i think that was actually really strong and i like that
because that's what it is you're essentially defacing a single satoshi by attaching data to it
um that's like a great i think that's good marketing versus like ordinals like what the
fuck is an ordinal come on anyway i am a fan of the Bitcoin puppets.
If they get cheap enough for my broke ass,
you might just see me end up with one at some point.
Yeah, same, same.
Johnny, what's up?
And then we're going to end it.
Oh, I wanted to ask if the game is on mobile level
because it's on Steam.
You're going to have mobile ideally by Q2 2026.
At the moment desktop only,
bunch of reasons for that.
But ideally we think people that are trading on terminals
actually prefer a desktop experience.
I do think for a casual game like ours,
long-term mobile is huge huge but a few months away
nice all right well cool well good luck with it bro uh kenny i hope you're gonna try it i want to
try it why does it sound like jesus already left i know i didn't well i got i have stuff to do i
got somewhere i need to be i have a doctor's appointment um so gots to go but we'll
be back to bro today was not unhinged i like it it was a good space uh nobody came up and fucked
off a valuable lesson last time bandit was here i learned not to ask the people that follow bandit
on stage what their favorite slur is because uh they'll actually tell you it was a joke uh but it became a reality
very quickly holy shit this is better now like at one point my following was like the craziest
people like actually like i don't even know what the fuck they were saying sometimes and not even
any founders who you'd ask that question to now kyle so that's that's good it's good bosu kev
will never come back in this space again.
Oh, speaking of unhinged,
shout out Jonah and the losers. Yeah, I know.
I heard him earlier fucking going on
Joey Vols.
Just to be fair, if fucking
Bosu Kev never comes back to this space
again, it's Juice's fault, not mine.
Yeah, it's true. It's true.
All right, cool. Everybody
have a good day. We will be back.
Mignogna.
Peace.
Bye, everybody.
