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Reality Check 🧀🎙️
Recorded: May 26, 2025 Duration: 1:27:00Space Recording
Short Summary
Exciting developments in the crypto gaming space as 'Frankie Go' prepares for launch, offering players a chance to earn rewards through innovative gameplay and strategic partnerships with meme coins. With a leaderboard boasting a $25,000 prize and a 30% rake back, user engagement is set to soar.
Full Transcription
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I'll see you in the rhythm while you can.
I'll see you in the rhythm while you can. Thank you.
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I'm the sound of you
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I'm the camera with you all the world saved me
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uh yeah good, good morning.
Good morning.
Bro, I think we're on our own.
It looks like KP might have partied too hard.
I think we are on our own.
Who parties that hard on Memorial Day weekend?
I just did a little investigation here.
I feel like I saw KP tweet something this morning.
I'm not sure.
Did you?
I don't know.
I haven't seen his rec post yet this morning.
Investigation. Nope. 19 hours ago. 19 hours. Wow. Lies. did you i i don't know i haven't seen his rec post yet this morning investigation um nope 19
hours ago 19 hours wow lies what a bitch i have 19 hours ago he's dead guys he even he even called
it he called it last week he said that he's not sure if he's actually even going to be it he did
say um you know which is wild because like what are are you doing on, like, we had a party at
my sister's.
On a Sunday.
Yeah, on a Sunday, mind you, but we had a party at my sister's and I think there was
about 120 people that showed up and we started drinking around 11, maybe a little bit before
11 o'clock that morning 120 motherfuckers yeah and
that was light bro normally there's closer to 200 people that show up to this party i mean we have
to we have to park all the cars down at the bottom of the church and my nieces bring people up to the
house because there's too many people it it would literally just go like a mile fucking long of cars um so yeah it's
a huge pool party we do like fucking cornhole tournament um it's pretty massive the cornhole
pot this year was like 20 i think it was like 2600 bucks uh to pay out the first second and third
i wonder if european cornhole is i think we're making a butt joke right now yeah i i would think so um but i mean
flinn's in the uh gambler chat he said gm he didn't know who dolly parton was so i don't know
if he knows who what cornhole is how do you not know who dolly parton is though that's the craziest
thing don't ask me bro um sb didn't even know who fucking Dolly Parton was. Legendary god-tier tits, dude.
Yeah.
Come on, guys.
Yeah.
Come on, fellas.
Yeah, so pretty wild.
But yeah, so we did that.
And bro, and we were drinking up till, I don't know,
probably 11 o'clock that night, 10.30.
So it was a solid 12 hours of drinking.
And then I was still back up at 4 35 o'clock in the
morning to stream for gambler the next day so uh me and aphilion did like a five hour stream gave
away like five grand and i was hurting pretty good when he said hey i want to get off the stream in
like 30 minutes so i can go watch this race i was was like, thank you, Jesus. And then I went to go lay down.
And when I laid down, I fucking,
my daughter was like, dad, I need a ride to work.
And I'm like, fuck.
So I got up, did that, came back home,
laid down again, was like 10 minutes
into like a fucking sleep.
And then my youngest daughter's like,
dad, you need to take me to go meet mom.
And I'm like, fuck, like, let me sleep me sleep because i was i was beat down pretty good but yeah i don't know
what kenny could have possibly been doing yesterday though that's pretty interesting
more like who that would be the real question yeah or like who yeah or who did him was the biggest thing.
But yeah, either way, fuck it.
We roll on.
We move on.
We were just having this conversation about, like, if I told Kenny, Kyle said, bro, if
you told Kenny that we weren't doing this space ever again, he'd be excited.
Yeah, he would.
Yeah.
He would be audibly and visibly excited exactly even erect yeah exactly uh flynn said um
yes he does uh know who um dolly parton is once he googled it so shame on you bro shame the fuck
on you uh but anyways yeah go jump go jump in the abstract chat, guys.
Let's get some numbers over there as well.
Open a tab, do whatever.
It doesn't matter.
You can, you know, listen on X.
You can listen straight here through the space
or listen right on through the stream as well.
A few things I wanted to get to.
Obviously, everybody knows I work for Gambler,
so I'm going to be talking about Gambler
like a fucking camel talks about Sugar Town.
You're going to struggle to put those kind of fucking numbers up, brother.
Yeah, not as bad.
But either way, there's only a few days left for the leaderboard.
Top prize on that leaderboard is $25,000
with a 30% rake back over there.
I don't know if they put the prizes.
They were going to put the prizes on the leaderboard right now.
I don't know what this guy at the top, Octo,
would have had to play to get up to 275,000 points.
Not really sure what he would have had to bet there but either way uh
number one you get 30 percent rake back i think number two and three you also get 30 percent
rake back um of all your losses and then it goes down uh further on down the list so now for an
idiot like me who doesn't play gambling games i've literally participated on gambler a couple
times what if i explain what that means
right back so you're telling me if i lose a fuckload of money i get a percentage of that
money back to put back into the casino is that what you're saying yeah yeah so if you lose say
you bet ten thousand dollars you'll get thirty percent of that back if you're in the top percentage
that you know the top one two or three in the leaderboard oh so it's not for everybody it's just for the top of the leaderboard no no no let me uh let me pull the fucking picture up here
uh that has the actual leaderboard uh because the all the way down to the top 25 they are including
a rake bat um and there's some other things coming in regards to the rate back here pretty soon.
Damn, I scrolled past my own tweet pretty good, but I think it goes...
You're not sharing your screen right now, by the way.
Yeah, I'm just...
Yeah, I'm...
Oh, you're doing what?
Oh, I thought you were sharing something.
No, no, I didn't know if you were trying to show me what you were describing.
Yeah, I'm going to go to it here real quick.
I was trying to find the tweet that actually had the leaderboard,
but here, I'll share this anyways.
But yeah, first place, 30%, second, and third, 30%.
And then it goes all the way from fourth through 10th place gets 20%,
and then 11th through 20th gets 10% rig back. So, um,
yeah,
so that's,
that's essentially,
you know,
the,
it gives you that percentage back on what you had lost,
during that timeframe.
yeah,
not bad.
The space link in the Bosu yappers chat and just,
yeah,
PM and everybody's just GMing and posting bosu's and god these things are lit dude
yeah they are yeah we're gonna dive into that we were yeah bro we were streaming on um we were
streaming on sunday morning and uh kevin actually came into the x stream that i was doing with a philly on and uh yeah he didn't talk a whole lot but he did say
some stuff is coming about the he did say some stuff is coming about the leveling up of the
uh i'm gonna message him real quick and see if he'll come hop in the space um about like the
evolution of the ids um evolution of the IDs.
The evolution of the IDs.
What was he saying?
I don't know if it was the evolution of the IDs or the traits he was talking about.
You know, let me see.
Talking Bosu.
All I know is I minted three of these things and now i have eight fuck
you have a what the jpegs got me again buddy the jpegs got me yeah yeah you got sucked right back
in i was like brother i swear i'm gonna take profits this time yeah uh yeah let me pull this i'm actually sending the tweet i'm sending the uh spaces link to him
right now to see if he'll come in oh he kind of took the day off yesterday
uh for kaito in a space yesterday actually loki the bird was hosting a space yesterday
and it kind of i think he intended for it to be kind of about bosu and about ip and
shit and nfts and it kind of just turned into a i don't know a bunch of like normal characters that
i run into all the time just kind of hard shilling their own bullshit but yeah yeah probably so but
yeah anyway kaito was saying uh that kev kind of took the day off yesterday.
Well, that's good.
Yeah, I mean, bro, these teams got to take a fucking break.
I mean, they are human.
I haven't heard that Kaito guy talk much.
He's a pretty smart cat, too.
And Kaito's one of the team members.
He's not the brother.
No, no, no. He's one of the other team members, right?
Yep, exactly.
Yeah, because I remember looking at his profile
and he wasn't...
He wasn't...
He didn't say specifically what he did
for the team, I don't think, on his
profile.
But I do know he's a team member because
I've seen him tagged in quite a few things.
Let me see if I can find his
fucking...
Oh, shit. Yeah, here he is uh what's his pfp
ah his pfp is not bad i've never seen those goggles look those like red vr goggles see
this is what the fuck i'm talking about yeah it just says core at final bosu so
he's fucking web three founders dude oh here's kevin right here look at this guy
bro i spent months trying to get a hold of fucking certain n dude oh here's kevin right here look at this guy bro i spent months
trying to get a hold of certain nft founders you said kevin dm and he shows up dude this guy
i love this guy what's up what's up guys how you doing good man never been better i uh
one mission accomplished on to the next but feeling feeling great man it's just so much
laugh on the timeline.
I was just scrolling through it,
seeing all the PSP's changes, seeing so many
posting about it. It's just
heart-filling, man. It's fucking amazing.
Bro, the biggest problem I have right now is
deciding which one to PFP.
The art is so fucking lit.
Thank you, guys.
That's fucking amazing.
It's so cool to see. I love that. I actually love that people are often like, I don't want the floor ones.
They're just constantly searching for actually the things that they like.
And everybody likes something different as well.
I love the Kazigami, other people, I love the Kodakas.
And the other one is like Will, he just rebranded.
He's like, I'm Will, I'm the protectors of the Kaiju-Con.
It's crazy seeing
this stuff coming to life like this was all in our minds like a couple you know months ago now
it's here like people are wearing it it's crazy yeah even through the up those obstacles go ahead
uh kyle i was just gonna say i know the first thing i did was i went through and tried to
make sure that i had one from each ID that I really like.
You know, I don't know.
I mean, I've heard you mention, like, a collector's profile a couple of times.
So, you know, I'm just speculating on what that could potentially look like,
but I'm trying to cover some of my bases there.
I know I've been trying to shop for ones that I like, but also that, you know, maybe, you know, maybe have an
extra item in their inventory, a weapon, a suitcase, things like that. I made sure to get a blue one.
You know, I was going to ask you, is there a, was there any reason that there wasn't a
trait category for the skin colors? Because I notice, I mean Mean there's blue ones. There's these like zombie skin kind of gray looking ones that seem to be almost impossible to find at this point
Everybody's bought all those up
Was there a reason that you guys didn't want to add that as a trade category or was it just because there was so many trade categories?
Yeah, no, we were actually we've we've built it up in quite an interesting way and we've we've thought a lot about
because even the way you divide the traits in certain groups is also art.
For example, if you go to tank tops, you won't just see one certain tank top.
It's actually multiple tank tops that could fall under the same category.
And we actually chose with the skin colors, for example, to not do that.
Because if we looked at the rarity scores and things like that, for example, the white ones.
The white ones are hand-created by one of our team members, Destro.
And the white ones also came in very late into the process.
So we just stumbled upon it and were like, this actually looks fucking cool.
Oh, they definitely look cool.
Yeah, they're amazing, right?
So we knew we didn't want to have a lot of them
and mainly have them part of being from the Mujins.
And so Destro started hand-creating them.
And then we're like, okay,
if we're going to give this its own tag and trade,
these are going to be super rare.
And do we want that, right?
So these are choices that we were like uh trying to balance out and and which parts are extremely important to us
and so i'm very very glad to see the respawn express under the no id is being picked up this
well because the respawn express is a massive uh like a part of our franchise right like if
uh maybe if you think of the ninja turtles like this boss or
you know it's it's a huge iconic thing for us in our franchise so we wanted to make sure that this
this will feel exclusive and rare and uh sometimes you can't you can't even even if we would separate
it in trade community is going to decide otherwise and they're like no we're already in behind this
thing right and it's out of your control but i was happy to see that that got picked up and so
it was the choice it was a choice to say, okay
Um, let's not do that. Let's group this under under the rest and then separate um separate some of these types and
Yeah
Man, that's so awesome. You know, I got really lucky on the last day of the reveal. I ended up revealing one of the no ids
Um, and I managed this one yours right here that
You rugged um and i managed this one yours right here that i'm you rugged oh but anyway what i was saying is no i was asking is this is this the one you were is this the one i'm showing on stream is this the
one you had no was it another one that looked like it right yeah mine had short hair um but
yeah dude it was just a really lucky pull and i immediately sold that one for like 0.65 and then just went shopping for ones that I really liked.
I was just saying right before you popped in here, I mean, I minted three of these things and now I have fucking eight of them.
It's like, dude, the JPEGs got me again.
But it's, I don't know, man.
I'm still just scouring the floor.
I know me and a group of guys in the bag channels have just been sitting
dude i got a buddy down there sb i think he's in the space right now dude this guy's got fucking
final bosu open on multiple screens just like he is a final he's got like i think he's up to like
38 or 40 some odd bosu um yeah and we got to the last day, and he had, like, I think he had, like, 12 left to reveal.
So his odds of hitting something, like, really good or potentially a 101, and then we seen a good friend of ours, Cairo, he hit the flame 101.
I can't remember the name of it, and I'm like, you asshole!
I was happy for him.
How amazing is that thing, too?
Here's the thing.
When I saw his
p because he had it pfp'd right and like you don't get the depth in an x pfp like i went and
looked at it like dude if you go look at this thing and like expand it it is so dope yeah i'm
going to it now holy fuck it's crazy yeah look at this thing you know what's funny like these final
bosses it's kind of logical that they're there now.
This came also very late.
I remember us being in Discord.
We're already towards the end stage of the collection.
And people were constantly asking us, are the final bosses in?
Are the final bosses in?
I was like, guys, I think we're missing something here.
And yeah, we're like, all right, let's add them, right?
And we're like, okay, but how many?
And then we started brainstorming around it and coming up with some concepts and what would fit in the final boss universe and then we actually came uh more to the conclusion as
well that all of these final bosses basically have because in the world of final boss so if you die
you respond right but everybody has a final boss inside of them and some of these final
boss like if you die because of them, they suck up all your memory.
And so these final bosses become stronger and smarter as well, right?
They can be super intelligent because they suck up so many memories
that at some point they have the memory of like a thousand people.
Like you can even go to the traits and you can see how many memories they sucked up.
And so like the biggest one sucked up, you know, I don't remember from top of my head.
Yeah, that's the memory absorbed 274 000 um and
that's that's the kaiju that looks like the big robot like the um yeah that's our most iconic
final boss i would say that we've been using more in branding as well so that will will classify at
this point as the main final boss i don't know has it. I've been trying to search the person. Fuck. So Cairo has the second
rarest final BOSU then.
Good for him. That's so cool.
Because his is 122,500.
I've got to say I really like how you pulled a
double surprise. You kind of told us there
was a surprise in the final
reveal, but then there was actually two things
that we didn't know about.
I was going to ask you that. What brought
that on for these hold on. That's so cool. Yeah, what, I was going to ask you that. What brought that on for these,
hold on, let me bring it up.
The Bosu Tensei?
Tensei.
Tensei.
Yeah, so what brought these 16 on?
Was this originally planned?
Not early days.
Again, like some of these concepts
came along very late.
And I think that's also the power of kind of trying to anticipate.
Even the way I've thought about marketing for after Mint
completely starts changing now
because of the way the community is reacting to things.
I'm like, we need to rethink this
because you can't anticipate everything, right?
And so while we were in building
and getting all the feedback of people,
looking at some of the collections, I've always given massive props to Azuki
because I love how they've done the spirit that there's only 97
and that classifies them instantly as the most rare.
We obviously have the unlocked, what is close to that number.
I always felt like, ah, I want to have something more rare.
And so the final bosses were there, but the final bosses are kind of like the biggest villains.
There's only, you know, five of them.
And so I just wanted something that had like a little, like somewhere in between, right?
And then the Respawn Express was there a little earlier on because that's super iconic.
And then at some point we just come on the concept.
And it was also a way for us to give homage to our first collection
because the first collection is called the Basu Legacy.
We're probably going to rebrand it a little towards the final Basu Legacy.
And they wear the suits of the Legacies, right?
So there's deep lore there that is going to be connected with that at some point.
But yeah, if you guys have watched Naruto, there's like this group, I believe they're called the Akatsuke.
And they're also like this small group.
And I've always loved this small group.
Obviously, they all look quite different.
We chose to team them very close to each other.
But there was like the... I love that idea.
There's only 16. It's like an elite group of people that come together.
Maybe they have meetings sometimes behind the scenes
and they discuss some plans.
Like that thought process was just...
And if you have 100, that's a bit too much then, right?
So we needed a small group.
And then it goes for the final bosses as well.
I want to group these final bosses.
They need to meet in real life.
I don't know what they're going to do together,
but these guys need to scheme something, right?
Let's go.'s doesn't know
nothing about no naruto she's you don't even know i'm gonna be the hokage do you the who yeah exactly
yeah i don't know what i don't know what the hell you're talking about yo kev what's the lore on the
max tag like when i first saw these i thought it was just a pistol that these like villainous cats
have but it says max tag and it does look almost like something that you would like put a tag in
someone's arm with.
Where do you see that at?
Is it on a trait?
What trait is that?
If you look through the no IDs,
they all have the same like red cloak,
right?
But some of them in their inventory,
they have this little pistol looking thing.
It says max tag.
And it,
and when you read that,
it does,
you kind of do get the,
the idea that this is for, you know, putting a tracking device in someone's ass or something.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, if you guys haven't played the whitelist experience yet, I highly recommend to do that.
I believe in level 3, there's a video that basically explains the lore of Final Basu, right?
And so if a person dies, they're being reborn.
And they basically wake up in this kind of blood bath.
It's not really blood, but for reference because it's red.
They're outside of the city.
There's almost like this big washing machine that's called Matora.
And when people are being respawned, they kind of fall out of this big machine
with like hundreds of people and then they're laying there, they look around.
Some people remember nothing. They completely wiped.
Other people remember a lot of their past life.
And so some of them are like super confused.
They're like, where the hell are we?
Others are, I will remember a lot.
And then there's a train.
It actually sounds about like how our third co-host is waking up right now.
Yeah.
And then there's a train approaching, right?
It's called the Respawn Express.
And then people are climbing onto it.
They're getting into the train on the way back to the city.
And while they're sitting in there, they're getting to watch a video.
And that video explains to them the world they have just woken up in.
And in level three of the Wild List experience,
you basically watch that video as if you're the anime person watching it.
And there it's explained that if you grow too much and you learn too much,
your growth paths are going to complete and the final boss will be summoned.
And so what we need to do is in this world we need to control ourselves
because if we learn or we grow too fast, these final bosses come out
and we all die because they're dangerous.
And so we need to maintain our growth.
So these mag stacks, if you place them in your arm, they basically create a line.
And once you pass that line of growth,
you need to immediately go to the government
and they will remove parts of your growth memory
so that it moves back your growth path.
And so these max stacks are actually devices for us
to be able to control how fast the growth is.
And once you pass that line, you better stop growing
and don't do anything anymore.
So that's a bit the lore behind it.
And so that's good.
I think it will be a very iconic piece to the franchise.
But me as the end user,
is that, am I in control of my growth path?
Refresh the question, please.
So there's the growth path itself,
because somebody asked me,
can you give some alpha on the growth path itself because that's somebody asked me uh can he give some
alpha on the growth path trait um is that is that something that's another thing i just noticed this
morning is that there's different there's different growth path traits i thought it was
just the same one and then two of them were next to each other and i realized one of them
yeah yeah i don't remember both who's Warning, and Activated. Yes. With the Summon
being the rarest, then Warning,
then Activated. Yeah, so
in this world, right, this Growth Pad
has these different notes, and every time you learn
or you grow, these notes are closing until it
reaches the top, and in the top, in the end of this
Growth Pad, there is the Final Boss.
And when this Final Boss, it basically bursts out
of your body. Everybody has a Final Boss hidden
inside of them.
Everyone.
And it's based on your specific past traumas.
And once it comes out, it comes to hunt you and destroy you, right?
So we've never been able to defeat those.
And so that's why these growth paths are essentially our learning path,
our learning curve, right?
And since the story we're trying to tell is all about against the odds,
the question becomes, are you going to complete your growth path
or are you going to live for the rest of your life within your means?
Because if you learn, you grow.
What in reality will be a good thing,
but in this world, it's dangerous.
Growth is actually dangerous because these final bosses come out.
The question becomes, are you going to try to fight that
and overcome that biggest challenge?
These growth paths are huge because every single person
in the storyline in the world,
you know, when they get to release an anime,
everybody has a growth path, right?
And some people are trying to actually complete them.
Some people don't.
Like the majority won't.
Like for example, the Kaiju-kans who are the heroes
or the officers of the world,
they're actually there to stop people to grow,
and they control growth paths,
and they're trying to make sure that people don't grow,
because these final bosses are so dangerous.
So yeah, all these sort of elements are very big parts of the franchise.
These are elements, when we write the story,
I think the story is a combination of different elements that make the world very interesting.
I think whenever there's ninjas, there's powers that they have.
But it's a bullet.
And he's trying to prove to him.
Oh, did we leave him?
Yeah.
I think he's rugging.
Yeah.
I'm hoping he's just disconnecting from his Wi-Fi at home.
Because he was good, and then he kind of rugged, and then he...
Oh, now he's muted.
We'll see if he comes right back.
He's cranking there.
I wanted to ask him when he's in the next.
Oh, yeah, we got you.
Yep, we got you.
Can you hear us, Kevin?
Oh, oh, oh.
Yeah, he said something about his internet, but it sounded like he was walking or jogging or something.
What do you want to ask him?
Something about what?
I just was, I mean, you know, the, the, the, I think I'm back.
Growth path on.
Oh, yeah, we got you. Good. Kyle. Oh, well, I mean, we were talking about the growth path and, you know, the growth path. Oh, hey, Kevin.
Yeah, we got you.
Go ahead, Kyle.
Oh, well, I mean, we were talking about the growth path.
And, you know, I mean, we've been doing this, the growth path on the website.
You know, more coming soon, right?
Is the last, is the, there's no date or anything.
What can we be looking forward to here?
Uh-oh.
Am I good?
What's happening?
Am I internet? Yeah, we got you now.
Yeah, can you hear Kyle or no?
Yeah, I could hear him.
I think he asked about the growpad on the site, yes.
Yeah, I think one of the core things we really want to focus on now next,
and I've spoken about it before, is these two things like IP expansion
and as well focus on the core community.
Like how do we get our community and holders more involved?
And so we're working on this platform around licensing,
where you can log into and you can start earning your ways to more licensing, etc.
And these growth paths are always, I think we want to team everything
so that it all fits within the world of Final Bossu.
And so there will be different type of points
and collector scores that are there.
And so this growth path is going to be a big part of that.
Yeah, with Azuki, we've seen a lot of people
create their brands around it.
They created it on X.
Some people, you know, started toying around with like
comics and doing these things but then it seemed like and i've never held an azuki and so i don't
know what kind of team support they have there from a creator economy or a builder uh you know
like to to help empower the community to bring their brands to the next level.
You know, so that'd be kind of cool if Bosu had that.
Like I have my VIP.
Like a creator studio kind of a thing?
Yeah, like, well.
Some tools and stuff, some kind of toolkit, maybe some AI stuff, who knows?
Yeah, that kind of stuff, but also helping like with brand deals.
Like even if like somebody's like, hey, I have this idea.
This is what I want.
I have these meetings.
Can you give us advice?
Like things like that.
Like, I mean, just like helping people
because many people may have a lot of ideas.
They just don't know how to put those ideas into action.
I love that.
You know what I'm saying?
So like me, myself, I've hit that wall many times times and my current PFP, I love my creeps.
And I've said this a lot.
It's an IP disaster.
And I've told Kyle, I'm like, I like, I would really would change it to a Bosu.
I just have to find the right one.
The two that I meant it are female.
They're both awesome, but they're not what I want.
It's 25, buddy.
You can, I know's i know it's i
know but like like in one of the ones that i wanted was like fucking like two and a half
and i'm like man that's a lot of well and this is the problem right like dude there is people are
very much buying way above floor they're definitely picking out their favorite aesthetics.
It's, uh, I mean, dude, I've been staring at this collection for fucking days now and
like nothing even gets near the floor.
That's not like the most basic and even the most basic ones are still super clean.
I mean, I'm just looking at the floor right now and it's just, everything is so clean.
So fucking has so much personality, but we all want something flashy.
That's interesting, right? We've looked hard at that as well.
How do we balance that properly? Because if you go too flashy, flashy doesn't become flashy anymore.
Because everything is flashy. So you need that good balance between it, right? When it just feels right on. But yeah, it's been interesting to see how many, like literally every, I would say, one out of four
or one out of three almost sometimes is just above the floor, right? And sometimes high,
like, and that's very interesting to see. And people message me all the time as well about it.
They're like, ah, I'm looking for this specific one and uh I think I think that's uh that's really awesome I think from a PFP perspective but as well collectible right
because in the end of the day there are collectibles and um digital collectibles and I think
because of the very the the right wide range of variety people want to collect a little bit of
everything and that's it's just so interesting and i'm so happy that it comes across well just looking at openc the last time there was a an nft sold at floor now
this one was 0.16 that was yesterday at 12 44 a.m and every other sale has been above floor
so it you know it shows you that people, yeah, they may be Weethan,
but those same people that are Weethan like two or three,
they're Weethan and then they're going back and buying one
that's like 0.25 or 0.3, 0.4.
And we were in this space all last week
and like trying to figure out
where's the floor price going to settle.
And a lot of that was like, in my mind, I was like, all right, once all these reveal, the floor price going to settle? And a lot of that was, like, in my mind, I was like,
all right, once all these reveal, the floor will go down,
and then it'll have price discovery.
And then at that point, then we'll start seeing people
going after the ones they want, and we're kind of seeing that now.
Yep, yep.
Sorry for laughing, by the way, mid-sentence.
Juice is calling you bad names in the back channels.
He can call me all he wants.
One of the other guys, Kevin, I was saying this on the stream on Sunday.
He said, honestly, bro, the more I look at the collection, the better it gets.
They killed it, to be honest.
Can see more people buying in as they explore the collection.
Which is true.
I mean, you find new traits, find new stuff um and i i think
it's pretty dope when are we going to find out more information on the like the suitcases and
what what specifically the like unlocked ones like the unlocked traits give me i don't know like
gold azuki weapon trait type vibes right like there's a bunch of gold traits in a
lot of different collections is that basically what these unlocked suitcases and weapons are
because man they're cool i mean the gold shiny swords are pretty yeah that was interesting right
because i think that's the one thing that i've always also admired about azuki and there's a
couple other collections that have done this really well is where you where you go look at it
and you're and you can see the difference between a floor
or something that is a little bit more rare or something that's super rare.
Ideally, you will put three images next to each other from low to high
and you will be able to say, okay, this is common and this is super rare.
I think good collections do that really, really well.
There's a lot of collections that don't do that well.
It's all kind of blend into each other.
You don't really see what is really rare or not,
and then you're kind of surprised.
But it's also really hard to pull off to do it very unique, right?
Because your mind very fast goes to,
oh yeah, because gold, platinum, diamond,
those things are universal truths that we all know that's rare.
I could show anyone something gold and they're like, that must be more rare than anything else.
So how do you create something new? It was quite a searching. We searched a lot for it.
How does this also fit in the Final Buster universe? It happened actually during the making
of the trailer. Because in the trailer, if you go look back at it, you'll start realizing that there's a lot of the collection
is actually in the trailer.
Because for example, when Let's Go is flying through the air
and his suitcase is shifting into a sword,
that moment in between, that is called unlocked.
And actually, there's specific colors that you can see there
that are part of this, right?
The shiny things, like all of that.
And so it was quite a searching part.
But yeah, those unlocked, those are essentially our gold, our diamond,
or whatever you want to call them.
And we wanted to have something special.
And suitcases in the world of Final Basu,
like the backstory there is as well that
for many years they've tried to fight the final bosses and they
could never defeat them until they find found these hieroglyphs that were left behind by the
bossu legacy and when they figured out what these hieroglyphs meant uh the government was working on
it and they led us to a a weapon and the weapons are the suitcases and when when you find like the
master suitcase in the in the in the trailer as well there's a scene where somebody places his hand on it and his head explodes.
That's the monster suitcase. Holy shit, yeah.
Yeah, I remember that. And if you want
a suitcase and you want to have a special ability,
you need to go and place your hand on it. And the suitcase
is going to decide to either suck you in
and spit you out, almost like a Power Ranger
transformation. That was such a fun way
of even getting into the Discord. I remember
doing the suitcase thing and
exploding a couple times.
Yes, that's that part, right?
So if you're not compatible, like it will blow you up and you respawn, you know, you have to start over.
But if you are, it spits you out and now you have your own suitcase and everybody has their own and there's different forms and shapes and all of them have different weapons, right?
So if you are a coder, like let's say you're a programmer or a coder, then your suitcase will probably enhance
and give you some type of coding power.
That's the thought behind it.
These are our special powers in the world.
There was one thing Jesus was asking before about the support.
I think that is one of the most amazing things about Web3 for me,
is that if you look at the normal Web2,
you get fans, those people are consuming, maybe they buy a bit of merch, they have opinions,
maybe they create some fan movies.
But here, since we're all financially incentivized to do better, and I feel as well, we're all
more leaning towards entrepreneurship or more leaning towards creating a better life for
ourselves, I think we have a very killer combination and so we'd only love to collaborate
with our community like generally if if we succeed in my mind if in five years from now we have
thousands of people that start small brands small businesses small you know uh products like under
the umbrella off and we can collaborate and amplify that whatever that means right maybe
maybe you are somebody that is a designer and and that's your strength and we can support you
on another side but maybe maybe you're somebody that already have an e-commerce store and you
can just plug in you know your brand and we can collaborate on that part that i think that that
is what web3 is all about we've actually started doing it already with some of our legacy holders
we've been working on some limited drops that will come out um some clothing pieces from from the stores that they already own and what we do is connecting them
towards the community we help them with a bit of design right and we're trying to guide them along
the way to to bring success to them because in the end of the day success to them is success to us as
well so um yeah i'm super excited about that like yeah because you see like yuga has uh made by apes
about that like yeah because you see like yuga has uh made by apes and that allows you know these
ape holders you see the the board in hungary um there's uh i can't remember the guy who owns the
bagel company and like everything is branded that so like i could see a world where people are taking
bosu and bringing it in heavily into their, into their IRL businesses,
uh, or even startup ideas that they had in the past.
Um, it could end up, you know, being pretty, pretty big.
And I guess that's going to evolve as you unlock your IP access.
Is that right?
Yeah, that's correct.
I think the first step is really giving clarity to the
community of what what are these licensing rights how do they actually function in the most basic
form for the nft that you own right now but I think that the second step after that is laying
the path for how can you earn your way into this franchise into more licensing rights and and I
hope that you know in a couple years down the line there will be some people within the community that that done so much and that are buildings you know in such a
serious way that they maybe have some of the licensing rights to some of the main characters
or some of the other parts of the franchise right because why not for us i want this brand to feel
like it's from all of us but at the same time we definitely need to make sure that you know we we
we guide this still smart as smart from a business
perspective instead of say you know i think what about uh i believe moonbirds at some point said
you know just open it up to the whole world everybody can do whatever i think it's a way
right it wouldn't be a particular our way um and so yeah so jeez what product could we market
towards what do what do anime kids need that we could make
this would 100 be like uh me asking my daughter what would be the most successful way to do this because it seems like anime kids like uh anime uh she's an anime because maybe maybe maybe something
uh in silicone maybe that could be a real life product that anime kids could use. Hmm. I don't know
I don't know what to tell you. I think you're picking up what I'm putting down
I am picking up what you're putting down, but I'm not trying to go there by the way guys
This is not like a planned scheduled a and anybody has any questions for Kev or anything
This is not a gate cap stage. You guys are more than welcome to come up
You just hit that request
button. Kev, what's up with the, I saw you tweet something about the Bosu Legacy Collection still
having a very firm place in you guys' eco. I'm looking at them right now. I mean, the floor on
these is .44. Is there any plans for these right now, or is it just you just don't have any intention of leaving them behind
or anything you want to share about the legacy Bosus?
Yeah, when I look back about maybe about two years ago
well we released that collection about three and a half years ago
and the intention there was to create art around the community members
that were uploading we also set out to create a a game called the dojo in sandbox where it was all these
personal growth levels that you would complete and you would fight against these different final
bosses there we um at some point with sandbox and the metaverse obviously we all went uh went
through the cycle where where we thought it was was everything, but then suddenly it just disappeared and it didn't take off.
We just knew this is not the business model.
We asked ourselves the question,
how do we provide value to these legacy holders?
They've believed in us, they've supported us.
Some of them, like most of them are still there today,
that literally bought in three and a half years ago,
only kept buying and are still there.
So we just knew like, okay, how can we provide value to them?
And that is where the decision came.
Let's build a whole universe around these guys, right?
And so in the storyline, they disappear,
but they left behind these hieroglyphs for the new people, for us,
the bosses that are here today to fight back against these final bosses
with these suitcases.
And so story-wise, they have a very, we want to put them on a podium,
and they are very important to us because these are the people that believed in us first.
Way before, we had 5,000 followers on Twitter, we had 3,000 people in Discord,
there was a beer market, nobody really cared, nobody knew Final Boss.
And these guys were there every single day, talking to us, giving us feedback,
working together with us on the storylines, we're doing quests.
A lot of the lore has been written with them, right?
Even the visors that are in the collection, Jacob, one of our long-term,
or Jomango, sorry, one of our long-term holders, he gave us feedback,
and we changed the whole visors as they are today in the collection
based on his feedback, right?
So just these last couple of weeks, as we started marketing this new collectible very hard,
I feel like they didn't really get the spotlight as much as that, I think. Just these last couple of weeks as we started marketing this new collectible very hard,
I feel like they didn't really get the spotlight as much as that I think.
But I think that this was necessary for us to grow the full ecosystem
and then put them again on the paddestoo and tell their story in the best possible way.
Because I think the Legacy is a very undervalued collectible that one day will get a shine because it's the first anime collection in the world that has characters that are based on the early supporters, on the first fans, on the first people that were involved.
It's literally their faces, like it's them drawn in the collection, right?
Like, I see her in the audience, I saw one or two just before, and like Zigzag Sok in in the audience like that's him in real life it's him but in his
character as well and you know we want to put them into the ip we want to take them with us we
we start expanding and if we're creating products we want to add them into there we might do some
rebranding there we're discussing that with the team and with internally with the legacy holders
as well to shift it and having more fitting towards the team as we're starting to expand but
they will be an important part to us and yeah we're definitely going to do a lot of things with them.
I do find it important to start highlighting them more because, yeah,
we gave such a big podium to the rest of the collectibles in the world that I just
want to make these guys make sure that, you know, we're here for them.
And we've built this all from the place where we wanted to provide value to them.
Right. So I want to make sure they're heard.
So with these tokens, I mean, some of them
are clearly already drawn in the image of the community,
but there's a lot of them that are just the badges.
I mean, is there still the opportunity
to pick one of these up and have art generated?
Yes, exactly.
So each batch, if you have a batch in your wallet today,
you can literally go and submit it.
There's a Dapp that we've built built and you submit it together with a photo of
your face,
right.
Or somebody that you love.
Like some people have uploaded their grandparents.
Some people have uploaded their cousins.
Like there's a bit of everything literally in this collection.
And so,
yeah,
each badge just still gives you the opportunity to,
to upload whenever you feel like.
Okay.
And if I bought one that already has an image,
can that image be redone or do i would i need to
if i wanted to have an image made would i need to buy one that's just a badge right now yeah you'll
buy one with a badge yeah for now we haven't uh till days we've always said let's keep it because
you leave your legacy behind on the blockchain i do notice that the community often has asked like
hey if i buy a person can we replace we've we've always had the thought like it's a lot of work to
do right and so it's kind of hard to keep drawing, it's a lot of work to do, right?
And so it's kind of hard to keep drawing.
And it's also my brother's artwork,
so there's only one person that can actually
get this quality out.
And so I don't want him to be drawing
for the rest of his life.
That's fair.
He's got other shit he needs to be doing.
What determined the rarity of these, though?
I mean, was it initially released
with different rarity? And then, I mean,
like one of them is rank one at 26 ETH. It's like, holy shit, this guy's got a background and
everything. Back in the days, we had traits in it and it made the collection very, very busy.
And so after I think about a year or maybe a little later, like we decided all together to
rebrand it fully and take away all the traits obviously in the metadata it's still there uh but on the visual aspect it's not
so yeah we'll still have to make some decisions on how to improve that thing um but yeah that's there
that's very cool nice um kevin so i know insight and you were supposed to come on prior, like a week, maybe two weeks ago,
because of the collaboration with you guys
and them with the trading cards.
Is that something that's still going to be happening?
Yes, 100%.
Yes, everything is actually ready.
Just haven't scheduled it out
I know he
yeah
I'm looking forward to those
Flynn just got one of them that I posted
in our chat last night
weaved to him
it's the girl with the pink background
and the pipe
that is so fucking clean
with a red hoodie
that is so nice I oh nice with a red hoodie and uh yeah that is so nice yeah yeah dude
no i did i like that 0.137 fuck that thing's nice um yeah it's pretty good uh kevin how important
is it to you though that um that bosu is like considered one of the top IPs on abstract because nobody's really distinguished themselves
as like the Crypto Punk or the Bored Ape of abstract yet.
Like I look at you guys, I look at Bearish,
Kabu Art is really good.
But I mean, I think layer wise and depth,
I think you guys have it nailed.
On sentiment too. I mean, like the sentiment sentiment on bosu is so high right now uh tremelio maybe compares sentiment wise but tremelio is like the
fucking nine hundred and i'm a fan of the tremelios i traded these i still have one but
it just it's not the same thing as launching your own like unique ip
just it's not the same thing as launching your own like unique ip i'm just watching like in the
space that i just see so many bosses here i've waited so long for this moment it's fucking crazy
to see so shout out the things that like you know i was saying i was saying in earlier spaces before
we all really connected that like the the the one drawback to this long mint and reveal process was
not having the common art for us all to rock as pfps and find each other and connect i mean i've
i've followed so many people and find had so many people follow me back and really connected with
this like really cool group of i mean i, I'm an anime fan, like cheese here
don't know nothing about anime. I love anime. So like, this is actually really cool for me to be
able to connect with all these people. Cause I missed Izuki back in the day, you know? I mean,
I, I just didn't catch it. I missed the opportunity. I had a elemental for a little
while. I traded it, you know, whatever, but you know, I wasn't part of the gelling of that
community and you know, not, there hasn't really been another anime IP that's come out that I've felt was, I don't know, there's something special about this Bosu IP.
You know, there's been plenty of other anime projects that have come out, but none of them quite struck me this way.
It's very good to see this art now and be connected with everyone.
I'm sharing a project right now on Abstract Stream.
This is why i faded azuki
because i had a fuck ton of these things it's called divine anarchy look at this one on the
right looks like he has a big ass dick hanging off his nose off his face the mask like it's
and i had a bad dude i had some i had like some really rare ones and then azuki dropped like a month later and i'm like ah i don't know and i could have got
azuki like sub 0.3 and i was like no i'm not gonna do it divine anarchy tanked i'm not messing with
any other anime uh my daughter was telling me to get azuki i didn't and so faded your daughter's anime call dude i did and i and i as we started seeing bosu get
released i started showing her some of the artwork and she's like those are really cool
and she's like the trailer did yeah yeah she watched the trailer she showed that to some of
her friends the first thing that sold me that that's what got me like fucking paying attention
and then and kev i've said this a bunch of times, but to be honest, dude, when the reveal didn't quite work out,
that day that you came in here after Luke DM'd you, that's really what won me over on this.
The art was already lit, but I think a lot of founders would have been really quick to be like,
hey, this fucking idiot on my team,
fuck this up. And you know what I mean? Like you were just like not trying to shift anything. You know that you're the guy, you're the guy that everybody's thinking of is, you know, the head
honcho of this project. And you just took it. You just took the fucking accountability. You came in
here and you just took the accountability, took it on the nose. That just won me over the whole
way. And then the art, I mean, I tweeted this tweeted this the other day you know but the art really drove it home but really when
you showed up that day that's when i became like a final bosu mega fan i appreciate that guys it
means means a lot and um yeah i think the trailer the trailer was always set out to be our big thing. We've worked a lot on the trailer. That's where most work went into.
Because we needed more story in order to be able to create a good trailer.
Every time that it was like, this scene is okay but it's not good enough,
we went back to the drawing board and wrote more story before we could actually craft it.
So that's been a core focus and the rest kind of came out of that. I'm so happy that that did the trick for most people. You asked a question before
about abstract that I wanted to address. I think that obviously from a, you know, I grew up with my
two brothers that now I'm luckily working with. You know, we grew up playing video games all day
together, fighting with each other, you know, and kind of grew up playing video games all day together fighting with each other you know and
and kind of grew up in a very competitive environment of wanting to be the best and so i
definitely i definitely have that part in me from sort of a yeah i don't know if it's a egotistical
standpoint or just wanting to win but i just so bad want to win it's just something that's
that that i thrive on and it's something that i that i chase as well. I think if you don't chase for the winning,
what are you chasing for?
Are you trying to lose, right?
And so, I don't know, that's definitely a big driving point.
And at the same time, I think that if we,
like there's so many projects, like the one you mentioned before,
I remember they were releasing as well,
that just became completely irrelevant over time.
Like they just either disappeared.
And I generally think that if they would only continue to work
and just do better over time,
they would already solve for 99% of those projects a lot.
But I think generally it's business building,
you know, it's really difficult, right?
You really need to keep pushing yourself to a new level.
I've always have the mindset that if i if if i want final bossu to succeed
me my brothers and the rest of the team we need to level up our game like we need to become better
right and the better we become the better the business or the organization can grow with
right because there are certain things that we've never done right in our lives and so in order to
be able to do those we just need to get a lot better
and and uh everything is tied towards that and so i i love that part i love the growth part
um you know with my previous business with the marketing agency as well like it came to a point
where it kind of became numb for me i was making good money you know month over month and it was
nice to grow to a next level but i don't know, like it became kind of boring to me
because I didn't see the growth opportunity.
And with this business, like with this company,
with this organization,
it feels like there's so much to learn still.
And that's the most exciting part to me
because that, you know, the version that I have to become
in order to make this the first,
the number one brand on Abstract and solidify that,
you know, and then go for for the for the rest of the
top of the space you know we'll see where we land but as well as an anime brand to to be able to
compete like in my mind obviously we're we're kind of you know in web in the web tree bubble but at
the same time that's not where we are focused at like our focus is like how do we place ourselves
next to jujutsu kaisen attack on titan know, and all these big brands. Like, that's the game we need to go and play.
Because if we play that game really hard and we succeed there, you know,
and we do the Web 3 game at the same time really well,
I think that's what true success is going to be like for the next-grade franchises.
Did you hear that, Cheese?
There's some of your favorite shows.
Yeah, I heard them.
I heard what he said, but I did not.
I'm just gonna
google it later i'll go back i'll go back just ask your daughter bro let's uh let's say what's
up to luke what's up luke how you doing bro this is the cat that introduced me to bozu
kev to begin with huh thanks for that yo what's up um dude funny story i was in someone else's
space this morning and i saw your guys come up
and I always send it to my burner
account so that I have it there to reference
just to find easily. It's right there
pinned to the top of my DMs.
I accidentally pinned it to the top of their space
and I got a phone call and I got
back to their space like 45 minutes later
and I saw that it was still pinned up
there and I was like, oh fuck.
That's hilarious. I do the same thing actually. I have a group chat with all my alt counts.
It's the most schizo thing about my ex experience, to be honest.
How many do you have?
Just two that anyone here is aware of, but maybe something more like three or four.
Yeah, well, I was going to say like, I like everything. I feel like everything
that you say, it's like, you say things that aren't cheesy and are actually like a good value
that people can take to life about like how to look at things. And like someone that I used to
work for gave me some really good advice when, when, you know, like we were talking about like what my goals were and like, you know, I wanted to, you know, become wealthy.
And he was like, well, you got to think about it, you know, like if you just, if you spend
a lot of your time trying to get laid and smoking weed and like playing video games,
like, like, yeah, I don't know, like you can't have like millions of dollars unless you're
worth millions of dollars, you know?
So just the fact that you have to like really be like, not obviously not like, I can't have, like, millions of dollars unless you're worth millions of dollars, you know? So just the fact that you have to, like, really be, like, obviously not, like, I don't know, like, self-worth is something that people can get all pissy about and touchy.
But, like, you've got to genuinely ask yourself, like, am I worth, you know, a million dollars?
And, like, you know, like, based on your habits.
Yeah, people don't want to face the reality that they could be more than they are.
You know, if only they took the time to make themselves more than they are.
That's a fact of reality.
And that's why people get a little touchy sometimes if you bring that up.
So, yeah, I mean, top projects got to have top people on top of it.
Yeah, I totally agree.
Kev, I don't know how long Cheese is going to run this for.
We normally only do this for an hour, but I know he's got probably plenty of time.
I did want to ask you one more thing, though, Kev.
If somebody said to you, hey, this is an Izuki derivative, what would you say to them?
Well, yeah, I've seen some of the comments and messages about it.
I went on quite a rant this morning in the back channels about it myself, but I'm curious
what you might have to say about that.
Well, on one hand I feel it's flattering because I have immense respect for the team of Izuki
and the way they've put details into it.
I know in my heart like that it's
not a derivative like directly right i mean like it's very different um and yeah i don't know like
i always i'm never really uh in a position to convince people otherwise and i really feel like
everybody should have their own sort of view it's the same like a couple weeks ago somebody messaged
me why should i join i'm like i don know. It's up to you, man.
Go and look at the brand, look at the trailer.
If you like it, you join.
If you don't, don't join.
I literally can't convince the whole world.
I generally want to have everybody involved.
I'm very much of the mindset of going one by one.
Every time I see a PFP popping up,
I'm trying to message them,
just thank them for the support
because I just see the power
in doing the unscalable work
and getting people to be hooked on what we're doing.
But at the same time, we're just trying to create something
from a creative place, right?
When my brothers are drawing, they're just trying to draw something
that they want to see when we're creating this.
Yeah, that's just it, right?
So if people don't fuck with it, it's fine. That's just it, right? So if people don't fuck with it,
it's fine. It's completely okay, right? And then, yeah, it's always a tough one. I mean,
it's up to everybody to decide if they think it is a derivative, fine. You think it is. I think
personally, I don't think so. I think we've created something very unique and
I think a lot of people do too yeah that's a very polite uh brand owner response i'll
give you that my response to that was shut the up that was my response it's like dude
what are we supposed what are we just supposed to stop making things because things have already
been made like everything is a repeat of an an archetype. Every story told is a derivative of an archetype of a story told before.
Should we have just stopped with the Bible and never wrote another fucking story in our lives?
100% inspiration literally comes from...
There's this process called blue skying that's teached by the Duffer brothers on a masterclass.
I'm sure everybody has seen the masterclass ads on YouTube or wherever.
And there's one of the Duffer Brothers that done Stranger Things.
There's a process called blue skying.
And with blue skying, it's their creative process of creating something.
And all you do is you basically dump all your ideas on a paper
and then you start organizing them and you start trying to come up
with ways that are more interesting.
So literally, the visor in our collection,
it's inspired by Dragon Ball Z.
I love those.
I love those.
I don't even know what they're called anymore.
Those power meters that will go on one eye,
and you can look at someone and be like, power meter.
And then you'll figure out how strong the person was.
What were those called?
And so obviously, and I'm very open about it.
I think there's a lot of things that we got inspired by Azuki.
The rarity levels, I think they're one of the best how they've done it.
And we took a lot of inspiration of them.
We have a Miro board or a Figma board with literally all the top 20 collections on it.
And we looked at every single collection and we broke down all the traits.
We broke down all the different things that they've created,
the color schemes and we tried to look at all of it and see what we liked and what we didn't like,
and take inspiration from it and spin it into your own way.
I think that's ultimately a big part of creation and being creative, right?
Like I guarantee there's no,
there's nearly no one that will start from zero.
You always try, why would you like if
you want to build a website today go and look at the best websites collect them select them
and then you know don't copy them but take inspiration which parts you like which parts
you don't like what kind of vibe it gives up and then then you try to spin it in your own way and
come up with something unique but you take the fundamentals because it has already been done
like a million times by so many great people so um yeah yeah i agree scouters that's what they were called let's say what's up to jonah i know
the anime is strong with this one what's up jonah i love anime how you doing me too brother
sorry i'm just watching something um yeah i'm good man uh congrats on on building up
an ai project i also do i mean i don't own any of yours not that's not like a diss i think the
art's really good just been very busy on on my own thing right now i'll go pick one up if it's
not over price but um you know i defended it because as someone who also minted an AI...
Yeah, I thought you had a really good take on this the other day.
As someone who actually made an anime PFP on Polygon, I literally know how hard it is to make one.
And I was explaining, like, if you've done this before and you're not a fucking moron,
you would know that making PFPs with with traits every time you add a new trait
you change the randomness by n to the power of the amount of traits you have it's not like
oh this will automatically be layered on it has to account for every single independent asset
and yes there's gonna be some errors and overlaying, right? Like if you're on a tight schedule.
I explained, like it's easier to make a still frame of an anime show than it is to make an anime PFP collection.
Even though people think that that's not true, they have no idea because they've never actually produced anything or put money into it.
Yeah.
So they have no idea what the hell they're talking about.
So, you know, I think if people believe you're a derivative, that's fine.
I think your independence will not come from the PFP,
but from the short animation series that you do.
And then if people really fuck with the art style
and your short animation series and the story,
then the asset appreciation on the PFPs will coincide
and you'll divert from that narrative.
It's just going to be a show, don't tell.
Like, you just ignore what people say.
And if there's a 30-second animation
and people go, holy fuck,
the Bosu guys are making animation.
And then it becomes a story of not of your derivative of Izuki.
It's like, did I like the story that Bosu made versus the story that Izuki made?
And do I like the art style?
I mean, and also real anime enjoyers really don't give a fuck about copying.
What is a shonen jump, right?
What does Dragon Ball Z have in common with Solo Leveling, Jujutsu Kaisen, and 50 other anime?
They're all the same storyline.
It's so common that One Punch Man is a comedy series about the Shonen Jump series.
So it's like, I don't listen to people who know nothing about anime on their thoughts
of anime, because, like, look, people beg for, like, if solo leveling exists today, and there's something that's, like, maybe one little step down from solo leveling, it'll still make millions of dollars because the demand for a Shonen Jump has never gone away.
So, it's just, you know, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Great take.
And I told Kev in the VC thec the other day too just ignore the haters dude
like fucking unless it's unless the point is something that you feel compelled to address
to the entire community fuck the haters you know like interacting with people with negative takes
on a one-on-one basis is just a fucking it doesn't work anymore man like i've totally learned that and i am a toxic
person generally i've been better about it i've learned that there's really nothing that comes
from like funding anything like you do get you do get followers and you do get engagement and all
that stuff but the end result is very empty and unfulfilling. And like, listen, I was the top of the game of being toxic.
Like I'm number one KOL for being good at being toxic.
You really get nothing for it.
Either you talk about things you like
and you just ignore the things you don't
and the things you ignore end up becoming a negative for them anyway.
So it just doesn't even matter.
Or you get engagement.
Yeah, look, i think it's fine
to be honest about your opinions on things and even to speak on it you know or whatever but if
your whole brand is just trying to dunk on people like it's not no one actually you're not you're
not like so you do get engagement and initially there's a lot of value but then what happens is
you end up getting into this cycle that you can't get out of.
It almost becomes – like, fudding almost becomes an addiction, I guess is the best way I can explain it, where you may have a couple of really good points of fud.
Jonah's fresh out of rehab.
No, I'm telling you. Dude, I figured – dude, I'm like – I realized that I had a lot of error in my ways.
And I'm telling you.
I'll give you another example.
I think he's a really good guy.
Golden.
I think golden,
when he did FUD initially,
there were really constructive points that had merit and value.
And now he's kind of spiraled into almost like,
yeah,
if like FUD was like heroin,
now he's making fucking lists that have no material.
You know,
he's making assertions with no evidence which as a
lawyer is like the antithetical of what his foundation is built on like it's just it's a
spiral out of control where you end up seeing the world in such a way where it's hard to recover
from i couldn't agree more and you know by the way when it comes to the layering thing i just
want to say i've been staring at this I've been like hyper fixated on this collection
for fucking days now.
I have not come across a single one
with a layering issue.
Like somebody,
I don't even know how these motherfuckers found
the like two NFTs with fucking layering issues.
Yeah, there's a couple.
There's a couple.
We're pushing an update out soon
that we'll solve these.
It's just like, you know,
the art is fire.
And I've only seen a few. And then I've seen the one that was twins. Yeah, it's just like you know the art is fire and if there's and i've only seen a few
and then i've seen the one that was twins yeah it's just that it's it's not something that the
team can't fix and it doesn't i don't know it just doesn't degrade the quality of the art at all in
my mind so i don't know i'm thinking about swapping one right now actually because god damn i really
like this one female i want to get uh another really lit female one to go along with my troop here just in case i don't know i got silly with
ai at some point even doodles even doodles has a duplicate that they never fixed it's still out
there i think it's kind of funny to have a duplicate i wouldn't even change it it's more
like a badge of honor of like you know we
really this is in fact a web free product you ever meet an attractive woman and she's got a birthmark
and she's really insecure about it but it's kind of like you know it kind of completes her in a
weird way it's like that like a little birthmark on the collection yeah i was thinking the same
actually i was speaking to the team about it like Imagine in 25 years and we succeeded and we became
this giant franchise. It's going to have its charm.
People are going to get
auctions like the twins that are duplicates.
It's like a misprint.
Imagine you put that in the collector's profile.
There's some massive amount of points
for having the twins.
It's pretty cool, right?
It's pretty cool.
There's a lot of things in that collector's profile you can do with the traits people to really drive the floor guys i need to
bounce thank you kevin all right thanks for coming through brother really appreciate you
anything i can do i mean i know i just talk shit on x basis but if there's ever anything that we
can do to help you out you know i'd be I'd be more than happy to do whatever I can
Man, I'm a holder and a believer. So thank you
That means the world guys appreciate you guys a lot and Jonah if you do want to become a part of it
Let me know if you have any questions feel free to reach out. It's always happy to open the call as well. Appreciate you all man
Thanks guys. Yeah, bro. Yeah, I'm not worried about your roadmap. I'm buying because it looks cool
I don't need a business pitch Jonah
There's plenty of
these with blonde hair that like i see some of these and i'm like that's jonah um but even if
i love them you know i can't wear them because of the startup and shit that i have to do like
i love them like i can have it in my collection but i can't wear it as a pfp because yeah my
circumstance i think you'll find jonah real quick before all the uh bosu mfers leave the space
because kev just left why don't you go ahead and show us everything that you've got going on this
week uh well uh it's likely launching today right now we're actually my dev team's on the phone with
abstract as we speak getting our session keys uh reviewed and audited um but if that if that
everything works and the test works then we should be going
live with frankie go today uh this afternoon now is that yours or you just is your company
i i designed the game that was okay i i wasn't like here's how to market it i i designed the
game like i made it okay so um like we have a dev team and an art team but i was like the creative
you were the mechanics you were everything in the back how the game functions is you
yes for the most part like like i'd say 80 percent plus they did some of the rarity tables and stuff
because i just didn't have time uh just like to make sure that like the casino could casino
correctly right um but in terms of the design philosophy
interpretation it's set up in a way for if this is successful there is easily could be a season
two three four five like the season one is very simple as testing the base case of the game but
i designed it with the team in such a way that it could be a real game with with
a life shelf that's longer than you know a week like it could actually be a full built mobile
game with a lot integrated well that's dope i'm excited to try it um so we're thinking today huh
that's gonna be cool yeah if the audits are all good to go,
if not, then we'll just push to Wednesday,
which is fine.
It's not a big deal.
But we think today,
because everyone's like,
oh, they're with their family.
Nah, they're at home.
They are for a few hours.
Then they're at home chilling.
We are one co-host down today, Jonah.
Yeah, but during the day, right?
That's kidding. beach yeah but at night
you're like all right well like you know everything's set up i'm just chilling here
and then you'll maybe you want to play a little little gamba game here's a good tweet cheese
let me know if you can guess who this is if you are following me because i'm listening to a space
about anime you are going to be very disappointed. Nerd.
That's YG. Yeah, that's definitely YG. Yeah, what a bitch.
What a bitch.
Yeah, get up here. Yeah, I'm
sharing your
page right now
for Frankie Go.
We're launching probably
today, Frankie Go. Is there a Twitter page
for this or no?
It's the normal Frankie page. there's not like a second account because you know this is
going to be the main master game going forward um i like the way you say master game there's like a
ring of arian brotherhood in there are you talking about frankie's diner yeah correct correct okay
frankie's diner is the ecosystem and then the master game will be Frankie Go.
And then depending on success,
we'll rotate more mini games within Frankie Go.
It's like the vision.
Nice.
I need to follow back.
So that's one.
And then in June, I'll probably go out of stealth.
I've been building a company.
I co-founded it over the last last six months and we've been building
some ai technology and we should be able to go out of stealth next month that's the target we've
been assembling the back end uh the last few weeks let's go i'm excited for that too i didn't know if
you would want to talk more about that today yeah all i'll say is it's kaito but we solved how to do
it on twitch and we're currently in development on how to solve it for TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram.
Dope.
Nice.
Yeah, you were talking about that last time you were on.
Yeah, we're much closer now.
We're much closer.
I have a back-end demo.
And yeah, that's the evolution of our agency.
It's now not just like hands-on building but uh we've built a tech
product that uh is self-service and um we've already started talking to customers and it
looks like we'll have some signups really quickly how many characters are in this game this guy
yeah he's jumping around with a cat um there so there's right now frankie's adventure which is the mobile runner uh frankie
frankie go is has not out yet that's the one that's going to be out today and that's a social
casino game and that's out uh with nine about nine characters starting um we signed contracts
with nine different meme coins so the way it works is uh you can you get about three
free-to-play runs a day which can get you crumbs and crumbs are going to be very important to the
game i can't say much more on that but you can just kind of get some hints over time but crumbs
are free-to-play currency they are extremely important to the game you want to collect them
because they'll uh go into effect for future things in the game that are not out yet.
And you can also do paid games, and these are about $2 per roll.
You can also buy them in batch tickets where you can get multipliers.
Basically like gacha gamer multiplier fun, if you know that model.
And if you kill one of these monsters, and they're not monsters, they're just fun characters,
in the game, you'll get a
meme coin sent directly to your abstract wallet for example if you kill appster and you have a
multiplier and let's say that gave you i don't know 50 000 100 000 appster that gets sent
automatically to your abstract wallet in real time you don't have to do anything you just claim it
holy that's awesome that's awesome so the idea is that
i wanted to build a game that could work as a meme coin ad network where based on who you want
to kill and how you kill them you can fight them and get them as a meme coin and there it's a luck
battler and the crumbs will eventually play a role in your luck score so let's so like let's say
today for example you play as frankie go who's
you know he's got nothing on him he just has a fist and that's it but what if
the crumbs could get you a sword or a shield or certain armor plates that doesn't mean you're
guaranteed to win but it may increase your luck odds um there could be a lot of ways that we play
with luck odds in this game that still work as a strategy game over time and turn it into a
real mobile game yeah are you know are you going to be able to fight other people or are these just
characters for now for now no but we have internal models on how we could fight other people yes
okay um and i'm also into this idea because like in web 2 games games where you fight other people become unfun pretty
quickly when there's real money on the table so the better method is something where it's almost
like hell divers where you're playing cooperatively to kind of get money together and extract the
money and that's a that's a game that i think creates more fun because nobody feels like a
complete loser against another player because if they feel
like a complete loser they're going to want to stop playing the game versus you playing together
with your friends to try and make money is a much more entertaining experience that leads to more
content in my mind yeah i agree with that 100 100 i agree with that like it should be your team
versus the advertiser versus the advertiser putting in a
pool and then everyone's fighting each other yeah yeah that's a much better model because you're
right like you don't want to you know somebody starts dunking on you and then you add like a
chat or a vc to the thing and next thing you know they're telling you well everyone thinks that's
fun and it is in shooter games because yeah yeah but but also when there's not like a currency on the line.
Like you're like, it's one thing to lose a game.
It's another thing to lose your fucking your funds, you know?
The bigger problem is actually not losing the money.
It's the end result of like when you like...
The way mobile games can be successful is if you lose a match,
you don't feel disheartened but you're actually
irritated and therefore you want to run again to try and do better but if if you constantly get
matched with someone who constantly beats you down it goes from irritation to disheartenment
and disheartenment means it's a fall off as a user again this is all business shit this kind
of takes away from the fun of the game i'm just talking about like psychology of game development right so but in a cooperative game um it's really interesting
because one person can lose more than the other but everyone is a net winner to some small degree
and the advertiser is happy with being the loser in some degree because the real winning for the
advertiser is for you to hold their coin right so like for example newt
is going to be in this game newt is one of newt and abster you know are in the top three highest
market cap tokens on abstract you know okay you win newt um are you going to instant sell it well
maybe not maybe you get newt in your wallet and you look at newt and you're like well i think this
could run so hold up or like what are they doing what are they building and now well especially right now
because it's so early right so you get the idea on abstract well but we can do this would be it
can exist on abstract but we can do this for any coin for example sploot is going to be in this game
let's go sploot is not a token on abstract it's on base so we built a login system where if you
connect your base wallet and your abstract wallet,
we can send you base tokens. So what happens in season two when we send you Solano coins
or Monad coins or whatever, a SUI coin, it doesn't matter. As long as the transactions
and the verification and the RNG happen on abstract,
it's a net positive for abstracts, DeFi, and just general flywheel system.
It's a net positive for abstracts, DeFi, and just general flywheel system.
I like it.
I don't know if Monad's going to make it, though.
Yeah, I was making an example.
You get what I'm saying.
No, I'm just joking because I noticed Alpha literally changed his PFP last night
just to change it back to the alien friend without the Monad half background this morning.
Yeah, that's crazy. That was pretty clever. You thought I wouldn't do this, Alpha. I can't wait to roast him later today on that. just to change it back to the alien friend without the monad half background this morning
that was pretty clever you thought i can't wait to roast him later today yeah you would be both
but yeah no uh the i'm on my founder arc uh like i'm i'm still making content and i'm getting actually pretty good views in web 2 i make more content there now than here but uh i don't know
i'm getting a lot more fulfillment out of building my first web 3 game and designing it and building
this startup and stealth that's you know a new ai marketing company so i gotta say jonah you're a
lot more fun when you're not telling me how retarded portal is okay i am enjoying this new
jonah well the good news is i don't need to say that you know i don't need to say that. I don't need to say anything.
Oh, man.
It was a good space.
It was a good space.
I didn't expect Kevin to respond so fast.
I was like, well, he's probably fucking busy.
Refreshing seeing founders that like really trying to be active
participants in the space i guess yeah i really appreciate that so yeah yeah and then showing up
so fast so yeah pretty good um granted it's the early days this is the honeymoon phase like he's
got to keep that energy you know what i mean i know let's talk in three years yeah yeah for sure but for right now dude it's pretty lit
yeah yeah it is um all right well cool it was a good space uh we'll be back tomorrow oh my god
we'll see what i'm just watching the fucking bitcoin chart eat shit this shit just dipped
down to 87 fucking cents did it really why what happened 88 i guess did they announce something
that's like not bullish they had like the happening like last week or maybe the week before and then
i think people probably people knew that was coming and probably thought it would be
you know it would come coincide with some really bullish something or another and i just i don't
i'm not aware of anything that's happened so i don't know if this gets close to 50 cents, I might upgrade my whole Bitcoin setup to be
honest again, even though I've already got way too much money wrapped up in that fucking thing.
That's wild though, for it to drop that much. Yeah. Well, it was barely above a dollar here
the last like day or two. Uh, I was watching it pretty close this morning uh and i was like dude
this goes below a dollar it's gonna fucking go way below a dollar and it did go below a dollar
and now it's the whole way down to 87 cents so yeah we'll see but anyway uh yeah godspeed everybody
i just hit a big old fucking win on uh gambler here let's go i'll take those winnings into
frankie go possibly later today
we'll give an official put we have a we have a trailer already cooked up and ready uh we're just
waiting for session keys to be audited and that's in process now so we'll see nice we'll look forward
to seeing it come out good luck with it bro thank you hopefully i can become rich and then disappear
yeah we'll see jonah in six months on a yacht with two hotties
fuck a yacht i'm in the i'm in the gaming room that's right make sure you stop in every now
and then to let us know how rich you are how i'd yeah let us yeah let us know how it feels
yeah by the way refer your friends there's a referral system if you refer friends you get
free you get free tickets to gamble.
Nice.
Okay, cool.
Look out, group chats.
I'm fucking coming for you.
Coming in.
All right, cool.
Bye, everybody.
Have a good day.
Peace out.
See you tomorrow.
Bye, everybody.
Maybe Kenny will be here tomorrow.
We'll see.
All right.
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
All right, peace out.
