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Reality Check 🧀🎙️ Zeneca
Recorded: March 20, 2025 Duration: 3:53:06Space Recording
Short Summary
Pudgy Penguins and Pingu NFTs are making waves in the crypto space with their recent inclusion in an ETF filing by Canary Capital, signaling a strategic partnership that could enhance their market presence. As the NFT landscape evolves, the upcoming token launch and successful fundraising efforts are driving growth and interest, reflecting a broader trend of integrating digital assets into traditional financial products.
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You He won't only roller, he got hair down to his knee.
Got to be a joker, he just do what he please.
He got a monkey finger, he shook Coca-Cola He said, I know you, you know me
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Come together. Come together. Come together. Come together. Come together. Okay, uh, are you muted on that side Kyle or no? Yeah, oh no, I'm not. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're not cuz I'm left and I came back
Yeah, I was trying to figure out what to do with the stream key. Yeah. Oh to go live on your side
Yeah, I just got live on
Abstract so we waited last minute to try and get his stuff set up. That's right. We'll just do yours today
I'll figure it out later. Yeah, it's a work in progress
Guys repost the room, share the space,
drop it in all of your chats.
Also, we are live on abstract.
If you want to see what the wonderful and idiot,
as he calls himself, looks like
for the first time live on stream, you can come see that.
And then also Zeneca, Zeneca's in the house,
also live on stream, uh, as well.
Um, but let's, uh, we're gonna, we're gonna get right in. Uh, Kenny GM, by the way,
I know you're not live on stream because you're I guess camera shy.
Kenny, do we get a GM from you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. GM GM. Happy to have Zenica in the house. Yeah.
Excited about this conversation. Yeah, it's going to be pretty good. Uh house. Yeah. So I'm excited about this conversation.
Yeah.
It's going to be pretty good.
Uh, Zeneca, thank you once again.
Like I said, we talked in the back.
You said you're up this late normally, but it's a pretty late for you over in Australia.
Yeah.
I mean, it's midnight over here.
Um, thanks for having me though.
I mean, I'm excited and, uh, stoked to be here.
Yeah.
Um, what made you want to go on this campaign?
Like I seen you put out the post. somebody had tagged me in it pretty quick.
And then I was like, yeah, I definitely want to talk to Zeneca.
Like what made you like, cause I know you just recently got married.
Congratulations on that, by the way.
Um, you know, so, but what made you want to start going on this,
this, this campaign of sorts?
Um, the main like impetus was that I recently restarted, like
posting a lot to my newsletter.
And I'm just trying to like get eyeballs on that thing again.
Cause I kind of neglected it for the last year, year and a bit.
Um, and also it's just like, I, I just feel like I was a little disconnected
from the space and wanted to go meet new people and chat and just sort of.
Yeah.
Get, get out there a bit more.
Then I could correct me if I'm wrong.
You were predominantly like an NFT guy, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
2021 is when I really, um, went full time in crypto and is mostly just all in an
NFTs for a couple of years there.
Um, now I've kind of branched out and do, do a lot more, but, uh, yeah.
And if you have what I got up with.
Yeah.
So meme coin cycle was a pretty good time to fuck off.
I mostly fucked off during the meme coin cycle too.
I dabbled a little,
but it definitely wasn't my favorite part of the cycle.
I'm happy to see a resurgence in the NFTs
kind of spinning up right now.
Yeah, it's nice to see, nice to see.
Well, for those that don't know who you are,
I had some comments, they already saying,
what a legend you are.
Do you wanna kind of give us some backdrop?
Cause like, I mean, I think you're,
you are like the original thread king. Like, I mean, I think you're you are like the original
thread king. Like, I mean, you were doing spreadsheets and all
kinds of crazy shit. Yeah, before we had analytic tracking
tools. And but yeah, do you want to kind of give a rundown of
who you are and what's going on? Yeah, I'll give the quick
version. So I was a professional poker player for about 15 years,
2005 to 2021 is basically that's what I was doing.
And I got into crypto in 2017, a little bit, but like not full time and didn't really know
what I was doing.
And then it wasn't until 2021 that I kind of made the jump fully into the space.
And it was through a friend who told me about NFTs.
Obviously I thought it was a scam first up like most people do, thousands of dollars
for a JPEG, but that doesn't make any sense.
But eventually I sort of got captivated by it all
and understood why they're so cool and fun
and important to the world.
And so I was just trading a bunch of NFTs back then
and ended up finding some success.
And around the same time I started writing my newsletter
and then a bunch of tweets.
The thing that really kicked everything into overdrive
was when, like you said, I started
posting these spreadsheets and really all it was, I would find the floor price of all
the popular NFT collections.
And back then there were like eight.
It was like punks, apes, maybe cool cats, hash masks.
There really weren't many collections.
But the reason it was valuable is that you couldn't go on OpenSea and easily find the full price.
They just didn't display that information.
You had to like go into each collection individually,
sort by price low to high, and then figure it out.
So once I did that, people just seemed to really
find value in that.
And so I got a lot of engagement.
And then I did it the next day and the next day
and the next day and basically six months of that, um, posting the spreadsheets
with my daily thoughts on the space.
Um, yeah, things are just kind of went crazy from there.
And then, um, I launched the then Academy sort of my community in November, 2021.
And I've been working on that for the last few years, uh, during some more content,
educational stuff, some advisory stuff, some investing and yeah, now, uh, now here
we are, that's, that's are, that's a super quick version.
Yeah, yeah, because I remember when I came,
I was trading meme coins on BNB.
I did that as well.
Yeah, so I was in like Safe Moon,
I was in all kinds of dumb stuff
and I had people telling me like,
you need to go check out NFTs and I'm like, no,
and I started, and I seen a post from someone go check out NFTs. And I'm like, no, and I started,
and I seen a post from someone on Twitter
and I can't remember who it was.
And they were like, all it takes is one NFT.
And then I came and I started looking at NFTs
and I seen Bored Ape, they were like two and a half,
three ETH.
And I'm like, I'm not about to pay that much money
for a picture.
I didn't grasp the concept of it.
And I believe at the time,
I believe crypto punks were even cheaper
than board apes were, or they were right there.
They were maybe relative in price,
but I just didn't understand it.
I didn't know what it was about.
But then slowly, but surely I ended up buying things
that cost more than a board ape.
I was buying-
Most people don't. Like, when you you're like every now and then like wrote,
like I listened to Rogan and he'll still be like,
why would I buy this when I could just right click, save it?
That's like the most common trope.
Yeah. Why wouldn't I just right click, save it?
It's like, did you, you don't understand like what you're buying is a key to an
ecosystem, whatever may be in that ecosystem.
It's not about the JPEG.
Yeah. Yeah.
Bro, I was buying cosmic ducks for like threes
when I could have bought,
when I could have bought a board eight
for five and a half six heath.
And it's, you know, maybe a crypto punk for 10 heath.
It was just, it was the, it was buying the dumbest things.
You know, and looking back on it now,
but those are the things we have to learn. but back then we didn't have people educating us on what to buy, what
the reasons were getting the data that you were putting out there.
And I think that's what really catapulted you, uh, you know, on the NFT
scene, you were, you were like our whale of 21, 22.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, that's, uh, yeah, whale of 21, 22. Yeah, yeah. I didn't realize that.
That's, yeah, whale is absolutely killing it.
He's been a lot more consistent than me
over the last couple of years.
I love his content.
Yeah.
Zeneca, you've done, you've built quite a bit.
I mean, the Zen Academy, you know, has become huge.
So, you know, talk about that a little bit. Like, what was your passion
in building that out?
Yeah, so basically, kind of like mid to late 2021, I was, I'd been doing trading, basically,
that's all I was doing, that and the content. And I realized that I enjoyed the content
side like a little more than the trading side. Trading was fun, but it's like high stress, a lot of hours. I didn't feel like I was adding anything to the space. I'd just done
poker for 15 years. As a poker player, I think all professionals struggle with the idea that you're
not really contributing to society at all. The world does not need professional poker players.
I was looking for something that could actually add value somewhere in the world.
And so when I came across the idea of creating a community
based around this whole premise of educational content,
it just kind of struck a chord with me.
And I was like, you know what?
This feels right for me.
And originally it just started out with a Discord server.
I just opened it up, tweeted it out,
had a bunch of people in there, and I didn't really
know what I was going to do or where we were going to go.
Then we did an NFT mint because everyone was doing NFT mints back then, and that was the
cool thing to do.
It basically failed with the business model, as we all know.
Royalties went away, and infinite value forever to holders just doesn't work unless you're bringing in revenue.
But the community has survived and we stuck around for I guess like years now. And I spend
a bunch of time there every single day. I love the community and the people that are there. And
yeah, we've done a lot of cool things over the years. But now it's, I guess, we're back to our
roots where it's largely just the Discord server and finding new opportunities in the space and discussing, um, you know,
whatever the AI agents or whatever the hottest new thing is, um, every, every now and then.
It's, I mean, it's so hard to keep up with everything, bro. You're almost four years in
on Zen Academy. That's so crazy to me. It's four years. I don't know how many members are in Zen
Academy.
We have a few thousand holders,
but then probably 20,000 in the discord,
but you know, active, it fluctuates depending on the market.
When it's bearish, everyone's disappeared.
Yeah, which is amazing.
Like I tried creating a telegram for like reality check
or just to provide alpha,
like, and I was trying to do it by myself,
put on all the information, like it was exhausted and it was like something
I couldn't do. I couldn't afford. I can't afford to hire
anyone. Like being a creator in the space is very,
Oh, I know you can't afford to hire anybody.
Kyle and Kenny have been with me now for like over three years
and we've just been, you know, screwing about on X spaces and,
you know, but it's very difficult to get people to, uh, support you in the space
without having the right connections, without knowing people, you know, I came on the rug
radio now almost two years ago as a creator for them.
Uh, so for Roke is, has, uh, you know, them and the team, they're been like really tremendous
with like growing my platform.
But ever since they've done everything they're doing
with Myriad Markets and they, you know, created Dasdian,
like they've kind of had to shift their focus to that
and away from their creators.
And I know he's, you know, trying to pull things back
around for creators, but it's, I mean, it's hard,
I would assume as a founder to be able to keep all those
things in check.
Um, are you, are people in Zen Academy? Are they happy that you're back full time that you're kicking it back in high
gear? How's the, how's the sentiment been in the discord now that you're
coming back around?
Sentiment has always been good.
That's one of the things I've always loved about it.
Like during times when I've been super active or less active, the Discord kind of reflects that. But people are always happy. There's a core community that shows up every single day. Even if not much is happening, even just like the depths of the the deepest bear market 22 and 23, there were still people turning up every single day. So yeah, the community has been great. But it is tough, like you said,
it takes a lot of time and energy and effort to build and grow the community and then sustain it.
I guess the goal is to eventually get to a point where it's largely self-sustaining, which I think
is where we are now. But you're competing with every other project and every other creator and
everyone else trying to build a community and have a discord or have a telegram or have a Twitter space is just like this so much
so many things vying for everyone's attention now. Yeah,
I mean, like I worked like 18 hour days for like 18 months
straight. Basically, it was just like nonstop seven days a week,
just all in got burned out by the end of it. But it was ton of
work.
Yeah, I mean, and that's the balance that people,
they don't understand founders are still humans.
Like even projects like Creeps that were,
like a lot of us are invested in,
like we're constantly like give it to us every single day.
And like as founders, you can't do that.
Like even me sometimes I'm like, bro,
I'm not even doing a space, I'm tired.
I don't wanna do anything.
I just wanna break away and leave me alone.
And obviously, you know, you did that.
You seem recharged.
You got married, you know, so life, life is good.
Now it's time to start pumping the bags
and getting back on spaces and engaging.
Right.
Well, Zedekay, you did a good job of, look,
being one of the bigger creators in Web3,
especially on crypto Twitter,
but the most impressive part is like keeping
your reputation pristine,
because, you know, with bigger accounts,
there were a lot of opportunities in the last cycle,
and in particular with NFTs and like shilling stuff,
and guys are getting undisclosed promotion you
know payments big payments but you did a good job of like really keeping that
reputation pristine like you obviously care about morals and ethics of it like
like I'm sure you you probably got quite a few you know opportunities to make a
quick buck but I never really saw you you know promoting anything to make a quick buck. But I never really saw you, you know,
promoting anything nefarious or any type of project
that you didn't believe in.
Keith, talk a little bit about, you know,
how important your reputation is on this platform
and keeping it that way.
Yeah, I mean, I've always been a big believer
that like your reputation is everything.
It's sort of, you can, what's the saying?
It takes like a lifetime to earn and a minute to destroy it.
And you see so many creators, they get a bunch of followers and then they just do
some random giveaway or not give away some whatever promotion and then they're
dumping on their followers and then they've ruined their reputation.
Um, and yes, they can make a bunch of money that way.
And some of them make crazy amounts
of money. But I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I was doing that. That's part of it as well.
So yeah, I've just always wanted to do what I thought was right. That's not to say that I
haven't like, I've been advising projects that ended up basically going to zero. I've been,
you know, part of things that failed and promoted things in the timeline because I believed
in them a lot.
Then they went to zero.
That's just part of, I think, being in the space.
But I think basically just being a good human and showing up and being decent is the thing
about crypto Twitter.
The bar is so low.
You don't have to do anything special to stand out. You just get normal, good person.
And, um, compared to so many others, um, you just seem something better, but it's,
it's really just, um, there's just so many scammers out there that is not doing
that is for some reason, uh, just exceptional, but it's not.
Yeah.
Well, your ethos score I'm looking at is 20, 45.
So, um, what, what do you make of ethos by the way?
Anyways, you like it?
I do.
So I invested in ethos.
Um, I invested in them about a year over a year ago now.
So before, when it was literally just an idea, two guys had an idea.
Um, and I was a bit skeptical about Ben because I like, you know, obviously I
hoped that they would pull it off, but I knew that it was a difficult thing.
They were trying to do.
And, um, I wasn't sure that like, would people actually want to use it?
Would it actually work?
Et cetera, et cetera.
Um, it's, it's obviously gotten a lot of attention over the last sort
of maybe four to six weeks.
Everyone is getting in on it now.
Um, I think it's working decently well. It's obviously
not perfect. There's some people who have a reputation probably higher than they should.
There's a bunch of tweaks to the algorithm that need to be figured out, etc. But it's really cool
seeing so many people go on there and rate people and share positive or negative things.
and like just rate people and share positive or negative things.
Like it's really helpful, I think, especially for those who are new to the space.
Maybe they joined this year or last year
and they don't know about something that someone did back in 2021 or 2020 or 22.
Maybe they rugged a project or they promoted a bunch of stuff or, you know, etc, etc, etc.
And it's not to say people can't change,
but it's just good to have that history and knowledge
so you can think twice about, you know,
if they try and do the exact same thing again,
maybe it'll protect some people
who might've otherwise like believed them.
1000% percent, like social credit is massive.
It's interesting, you know, because I saw some people,
I think it was yesterday or day
before, but remember Eileen, I think her name or Elaine.
Elaine Eileen.
Yeah, she's the or no stuff.
And there was a tweet.
And you know, they were talking about, you know, the mishap that happened, you know,
back in the day with the peak ordinals hype and how she was getting a mentality collection
that was previously used artwork and you know,
People were debating on whether oh you should let it go, you know
That was a couple years ago people make mistakes and then other people were saying no like this is part of her history
You know, so like I think ethos is a good platform for people to be informed on, you know
on people's previous history in the space
people's previous history in the space because I mean like
because I mean, like that stuff,
it just doesn't go away in my personal opinion.
But what are your thoughts on that?
As Xenika, do you have any thoughts on that?
Yeah, actually I replied to that post.
I'm just gonna read it now
because that's basically what I think.
I said, some people are gonna let it go, others are not.
But it's nice that there's a platform like Ethos
where people can share things like this.
So those new to the space can know the history. Actions have consequences. People can change and
be given second chances and I don't think someone should be canceled forever
or ever because of something they did years in the past but I don't see a
problem with people who are around at the time sharing their perspectives on
it which I think is the entire like that's the whole point of ethos. It is to
have people that had seen something that they
weren't a fan of or that they thought was shady or that unethical and post about it. And it's sort
of, again, actions have consequences. If you do something, like you steal art and try and sell it
for a bunch of money, people are going to remember that and people are going to hold it against you
for quite a while. And it's their right to do that.
Other people will forgive you and move on and trust you.
And it's their right to do that as well.
And I think ethos is a nice place
where everyone can sort of share their view
and then people can make up their own minds.
That I think the biggest thing is,
is trying to get people to download the extension
because you can't see the social credit scores without it.
So while they're promoting the brand and promoting ethos, they really got to drive
home the narrative of like getting the extension. Yeah. Uh, and that's the scary thing is that
people don't like downloading shit to their computer. Yeah. So then how do you break that?
So just in the interest of being the contrarian that I always am, I will say, and I, I didn't,
I don't know if I told you this cheese, but I got to talk to that guy, uh, in another space the other day.
Yeah. Um, and I'll tell you exactly what I told him. Uh, social credit scores, give me the heebie-jeebies.
That's fair. Why? And, uh, I don't know if I trust all the fucking people I hang out with on crypto Twitter to decide my future. Now I will say this. I said that to that guy and he took it extremely well.
And then we all had a very long conversation about how the platform works.
He seems like he is a very genuine guy who's very interested in building
something useful in the space.
Um, and you know, I mean, there was a lot of questions about trying to
bought things and manipulate things,
and he had really good answers for all of it. I mean, you, you kind of have to,
it's sort of like a proof of stake type model where you have to like, you kind of put some
money on the line to really boost someone. So it's, it's at least resistant to being
bought in a pretty good way. It sounds like a really cool product. I social credit scores
still give me the heebie-jeebies, but I will say after I got to talk to that guy, I I'm
a, I'm a lot more interested in it than I was originally. I'll say that.
Yeah. I think if, if, if it's done right, a lot of people were trying to do like the
three by three thing where they were, uh, you know, you vote for me, I vote for you
or I vouch for you. Then they would go in and just put minimal amount of money, uh, you know, you vote for me, I vote for you, or I vouch for you.
Then they would go in and just put minimal amount of money, uh, in on each
other. So they were, you know, kind of game in the system to boost their scores.
Um, but I think they'll have, they'll adjust to that as, as, yeah, I, I
I initially felt the same way about social credit scores, and I still do to a certain
initially felt the same way about social credit scores and I still do to a certain
extent, but I think it matters how the score is being created.
extent.
In China, you have a social credit score where the CCP is heavily involved in deciding who
has a good score, who has a bad score, and docking people's points.
That to me is a really terrible authoritarian version of it.
Ethos is designed to be decentralized and have the community say it.
And I think if it doesn't work,
then the community will be like,
you know what, we don't trust
this social credit score system.
Like, there's all these people that have high scores,
but we know that they're scammers.
Or there's all these people that have low scores,
but we know that they're genuinely good.
And I think that then the entire platform
will just not be trusted and people will move on and not really care about it.
I think if it's working well, then it will continue to gain attention.
Um, but yeah, it's, it's a really, there's a lot of tough problems
that they have to solve.
Um, and it's, yeah, it's a, it's a tough road ahead for sure.
Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
The difference between a government assigned social credit score and something
that's like
sort of sourced from the community. I mean look, we all have a certain amount of social credit anyway, just through the connections that we've made in the space and the reputation that we've garnered.
And as long as that's all that is really being sourced on this platform, then, you know, I think
it's just a good representation of who you are in the space and not some like top down assigned number that I think is, you
know, potentially a lot more nefarious.
So yeah, like I said, after getting to talk to the guy, I'm, I'm actually a
lot more interested in the platform and I, I was kind of put off by it to begin with.
So yeah,
thing is, is, is getting an invite.
Uh, I have people constantly when I got, when I was able to get mine from
Chewy, which was great, um, then I had people automatically assuming that I
had like this massive amount of invites and you don't get them.
Uh, and then when they put out the list of people, how many DMs did you get
Zeneca cause I see, I seen you had several at the time, uh,
yeah, early on, uh, I was a bunch of people were DMing and reaching out.
Uh, so we, we had Serpent come into Zen Academy and do an AMA and then he gave
us, or he gave me 10 invites to give out to the community.
And so I, I, it took me like a couple of weeks to get through them.
Um, so yeah, people saw that I had a bunch and they started reaching out
and, uh, yeah, they're tough to come by. Like I have zero now.
Um, you maybe get one a week or maybe two a week.
I think they're trying to ramp it up like a little bit more.
Now there's, I think I heard there was like 8,000 people, um, on the platform
now. And so like, if they all get one, then all of a sudden you get 16,000, 32,000.
So you can pull it.
It'll ramp up really, really quickly at this point if they're giving out invites.
But the other thing with invites is
you wanna be careful with who you invite
because it kind of affects your score a little bit.
At least at the moment.
I think that's an issue that they have to overcome
because how will they ever get like people
with scammers or bad actors on the platform?
Or I guess that they won't.
And you can still rate people with like scammers or bad actors on the platform or I guess that they will they won't and and um
you can still rate people even if they don't actively use the platform you can just go and
rate anyone on twitter which yeah that that doesn't make sense yeah no it doesn't but I guess I mean
I guess it does or it doesn't I mean because those people are going to be afraid to join
the platform right yeah and it's I think it's fine like um let's say someone's a serial scammer and their score is 500
um there's not really any benefit than being on the platform like the community has decided that
they have this rating they could come on and try and, you know, rate other people negatively or get people to vouch for them.
Um, and if they find enough people, then great.
But I think the system is designed that it's, it's not particularly
gameable and it's not necessary for someone to be on the platform, to
have a strong or a negative rating.
It would be at a minimum.
It sounded like it would be very expensive to try to gain, which, you know, so the threshold
that should take care of that.
Yeah.
Either way, I think it's dope.
It shows people, okay, Zenica 2045.
That's pretty fucking massive.
It's hard to get up that high, but people are definitely pushing it.
I need to be more active on there and go do more reviews.
I'm gonna do one of you whenever we're done with this.
I don't want to be under pressure, uh, type in live on the space and then it
could be like, all of a sudden he's going off the stream.
This is the first time Jesus has ever been fully locked into a space right now.
Congratulations.
I know normally I'm like, they're talking to me and I'm like, what, what,
what the fuck did you just say?
Um, so, um, so, all right. So from 2021, 20, you know, late 2022 NFTs and now NFTs as we see them today,
like, where do you see the major difference at from where we were?
Uh, the major difference is that the hype cycle has just completely changed.
Like there was a manic bubble,
like the bubble of all bubbles basically, 2021.
It was globally spoken about for months on end.
Like it really took the world by storm.
And that is obviously very different
to where we are right now.
I don't think we'll ever get back to that level of mania.
And I think that's a good thing.
I don't think that was healthy
and it's not good for long term.
But the bright side about where we are right now, to me,
is that we sort of, I think that the market and the community
has widened up.
So we're not really just minting out crappy little projects
anymore, giving bad actors a bunch of money.
And the cream is going to rise into the top.
So the teams that have stuck around, like Pudgy Penguins have been a great example,
teams that stuck around for years, built IP,
worked with the community, are showing good results.
Then you're also seeing new projects that are very high quality,
are the only ones that seem to be making it out with,
I think, more of a focus on art.
We're seeing obviously some PFP projects take off and they get a lot of the attention, the only ones that seem to be making it out with, I think, more of a focus on art.
We're seeing, obviously, some PFP projects take off and they get a lot of the attention,
but just slowly in the background, the whole digital art, NFT art movement is really progressing
at a nice pace with artworks being placed in museums around the world, galleries opening
up, more and more of the traditional art world taking notice. And so all of this to me is just like steps towards greater and greater adoption.
And at the end of the day, an NFT is just a piece of technology, it's just a token standard.
And you can build anything on top of it.
It could be art, it could be gaming assets, NFT, it could be real estate, it could be
Pokemon cards, basically literally anything non-fungible in the digital world.
And I think we'll eventually get to a point where most of the
internet is, is that it has some connection to crypto blockchain NFTs.
And most people just won't know about it.
You won't be, it just won't mean anything.
Like it'll be a, like it'll be CPIP or whatever these, you know, tech
standards are that most people don't know from the internet, um, will be similar
with, I think NFTs and, uh, all of crypto early.
Yeah.
We saw, we've seen a recent surge, obviously, um, on the art side of things,
obviously some crypto punks, big sales over there.
We've seen some pretty big sales from glyphs recently.
Um, yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
The mask of Sam Spratt.
Yeah.
They, you know, did you get any of these?
Did you met one? No, I, I, I have no exposure to Sam Spratt, Yeah. Did you get any of these? Did you met one?
No, I, I, I have no exposure to Sam Spratt, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I think, yeah. Part, part
of it is that his ecosystem requires, um, like attention and involvement and interaction.
Uh, and I'm always hesitant to get involved with things like that because I'm just, I'm
so scattered brain. I miss things. I'm it all the time. I have to set 10 reminders
and I know that I would just miss out on something.
Um, but I'm still tempted because I think what he's doing is really cool.
Um, and he's definitely built like a cult following.
Um, and for good reason, he's a really wonderful human by all accounts.
Yeah.
The original one was the, the big painting, or I guess the one big piece of artwork
and everyone had to
uh I think they had to come up with their own story based off their block of the painting right or the yeah of the of the artwork I can't recall this was it was based on that block maybe it was um but I
think it was like yeah share something like really deep and personal and people were really opening
up like um I can't was part of the monument game.
Yes.
Is what it was.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then, um, and yeah, the people were talking about really traumatic things
happening in their lives or, or the best day of their lives, really amazing things
and just like really deep, personal, emotional, raw connections.
Um, which is just fantastic and fascinating to see, like art is meant to make you feel
something.
And I think that this is,
Sam is doing a great job of bringing that out in people.
Yeah, he's done that.
And he's made a lot of money and a lot of ETH volume
and a lot of stuff.
But I mean, like these are the projects that, you know,
there's so many different levels of collectors.
You know, there's guys that won't buy NFT projects.
There's guys that won't even,
that never even touch Pudgy Penguins
until they were above 20.
They're like, they don't believe in the, you know,
they don't believe in it until it reaches a certain value.
You tweeted on it yesterday or you replied to it,
the Adam Weitzman buying the four,
buying the four mega mutants.
Yeah, I mean, what do you think he paid for that?
Two three million. Yeah, I think somewhere in that 1.5 to 3 range is probably a pretty good guess which is crazy
It could like 21 22 that would have like plus 10 plus million easily
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the the last serum I think sold for 10 million, right?
The last big mega serum. I thought it's over maybe it was 6.25
It was definitely I think
Well, I think he offered 10 million this time because he's trying to fight
He's trying to get the last serum so he wants to bring I think it's the cheetah
Mega mutant is the last one. That's so great. He wants to own it. Yeah
That's so crazy.
And he wants to own it.
So I know it was about so much money. I know exactly
Yeah.
Some people just have too much money.
I know exactly.
I know.
So now, so he's got five out of the,
five out of the revealed mega mutants already.
That's insane.
He had the demon before this.
So like there are people out here that want to spend money.
Yeah.
And you know, we've seen it with,
we've seen it with good vibes.
There are people that want to spend money and have money.
I want to spend money.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
But even good vibes club, didn't they make you an honorary?
No, I don't think I got one actually.
So a bunch of other stuff was really cool though.
Yeah, I love the art.
Yeah. Some reason I thought they,
some reason I thought they had seen you on there.
I don't know.
You've been all over the timeline everywhere.
So, but yeah, I mean like,
but what do you make of artwork like this?
So it minted out, you know, and it was what?
0.069 ETH.
So not too bad of a mint price.
Yeah.
But do you think-
And also just art as far as I can tell.
I'm not aware of any ecosystem.
I think it's just art and vibes. And I mean,
2021 type shit. Yeah, I just, uh, the, it's by toast TV, which I think is like a really
well established, I don't know if it's like an animation studio or, or something like
that. Um, so there's, I guess some speculation that there'll be some involvement with them
and it's more than just the art potentially, but basically all I've heard of for now, yeah, I'm just reading the thing,
high-end art focused IP launching. So if they're calling it IP, then perhaps they have plans or
goals to build something more around it. I think the art's really, really good. Like it's, it's
especially difficult to create anything that looks remotely 3d and is generative and a collection of the size and have it look really good.
Um, I think the only other one I can think of that is, is similar in comes
close is clone X and, and, you know, uh, quite different clone X.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know, but there's been so many people trying to buy it too.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah, well there were, well there were a couple big sales yesterday.
I think 13 and a half each sale for one of the one-on-ones
and then over a 10 each sale last night as well.
Or it was 13 each and then 10 and a half each for one-on-one.
So I mean, compared to the floor price,
it's clearly obvious people are collecting this
and willing to pay heavily over floor price, you know, it's clearly obvious people are collecting this and willing to pay, you
know, heavily over floor price, which is a good indicator of a strong project. You know,
I think that's a it's good to see. I mean, we've seen a little bit of recent success
over the past couple of weeks in some of these newer projects, which we hadn't seen. I mean,
I remember 24 in 23, like NFT projects were having trouble just
minting out in general. But you know, to see this type of, you know, excitement on the
timeline again, it feels like that sentiment is shifting back towards NFTs a little bit.
What are your thoughts on that?
It definitely feels like that with Sam Spratt and the Masks and this both happening around the same time.
Plus a bunch of punk sales, there have been a bunch of hoodie sales, and then you have
this mega mutant thing.
There's definitely a buzz and it seems to me to be...
Obviously NFTs rely on the macro market.
If Bitcoin falls off a cliff, then it's going to struggle. And it's the Holy ghost is going to struggle.
But I think if like, you know, Bitcoin holds up, we get the bull continues.
It starts doing a bit better.
Maybe.
I really think that this is like maybe a canary in the coal mine event of
like an NFC meta beginning, uh, because yeah, you're just seeing the energy and
excitement and I mean, NFC is just more fun in my opinion than the meme coins.
the thing is everybody fried their brains on meme coins and now they're ready to
like actually hold something. And like, you could do that with meme coins,
but there's no fun watching the chart go sideways. You know, like NFTs,
you get to, you know, you get to show people your art on the timeline.
You get to be a part of a community. You get the raid, you get to do all this fun stuff. You get to, you know you get to show people your art on the timeline you get to be a part of a community you get
The raid you get to do all this fun stuff you get to you know
Actually talk to founders instead of just hoping that the dev already sold so the CTO already kicked in or whatever
You know, it's a totally different thing
I wanted to ask real quick, you know, obviously like you said we've seen some big sales the the mutants
You know some of these hood punks,
but you know, blur kind of ruined rarity for a while there, as far as like NFTs collections go,
but it seems like people are starting to buy rare. He did it again there for a bit before they shut
it off. Right, right. But do you like what what is your stance on like blur and like, you know,
do you think like, you know, more projects potentially because I know good vibes club block trading on blur.
And it seems to be helping as far as like rarity people are paying premium to get rare NFTs. But what are your thoughts on, you know, rarity and like NFT NFTs on blur and whatnot.
and like NFTs on Blur and whatnot.
Yeah, so I think rarity is one of those things
where I think during like bearish markets,
no one cares about rarity.
Like so 23 and 24, like no one cared about rarity.
It was just the floor.
Like you would see really rare NFTs basically sell at floor
or slightly above floor.
But when there's like
positive attention and momentum, that's when people start buying like mid-rares or above
rares because the speculation is that the whole collection will go up and these will go up
exponentially more or significantly more because of that, which doesn't exist in a bearish market.
So I think it's largely dependent on that, but you're right, the blur,
the interface was designed for high volume trading and not for looking at the art as much. So I think
that it definitely contributed to the, I guess, like speed running, the idea of not caring about
I guess like speed running the idea of not caring about Rez as much and just trading
in volume. Yeah, I think you brought the not caring about NFTs at all. It's was just 100%
volume. It's it was transaction. Yeah. And people were farming blur points. I mean, there
was, yeah, well, I mean, for volume trading. And that's what I mean, I was, you know, towards
season three, there were people like at the top of the leaderboard that were minus, you know, in the, in the
negative, you know, six figures, but they were just farming so hard that they were literally,
you know, we, you know, putting wheat offers out, accepting, you know, it would get accepted
and they would instantly accept it for the next lowest wheat offer, you know, taking
a hit on their trading volume. But, volume, but the incentivized airdrop
was what was keeping them doing it.
What'd you think about open sea pivoting from,
because initially when they started this airdrop campaign,
they allowed that to happen,
but then they stepped back on that
and kind of changed the rules of the the farming to get points.
Do you think that was a positive move?
I can see.
Yes, because they kind of have the same model as what blur was doing.
And the exact same model.
Yeah, everything they got so much backlash and rightfully so because they literally just copied it as much as like
even I think you're getting a boost for being in the top 10. It was such a copy. So I think
it's good that they sort of changed and backtracked a little bit because I think the market was
very fed up of Blur and the whole, like you said, the incentives. I think that the biggest
issue to me with Blur was the incentive structure and how it incentivized inorganic volume.
I think if it wasn't for that, NFT prices still would have gone down a lot and the market would have crashed and people still wouldn't have cared about res because, you know, 2022 was just a disaster year for crypto in general and everything struggled.
and everything struggled, but I think it definitely created some weird incentive structures that
contributed to maybe speed running it and making it worse quickly.
Hopefully OpenSea has learned from all of that and is going to continue to learn from
that and create an ecosystem that is a little more favorable towards collectors is probably
the biggest point because Blur still is all about traders.
Um, open sea can in theory be about both traders and collectors.
And I think then they would do a better job of capturing the market.
Yeah, that's what they're doing now.
So right now, the only thing they're doing is dropping these,
these containers.
That's it.
So if you're active on eight chain, they dropped a bunch of containers. That's it. So if you're active on eight chain, they dropped a bunch of containers
that people do in that token swaps, sweeps,
different things like that.
If you're a holder and you purchase,
so like, as long as you buy and hold for X amount of time,
they're dropping crates for that.
So that's what's getting XP.
Other than that, they haven't announced another thing.
They've just gone completely silent
besides dropping these crates and looking at the numbers,
they've only dropped maybe 30,000, maybe 15, 20,000.
So it's, you know, it's gonna be interesting
to see where we go.
I've always said it, that I don't think we see another run
like we did previously, that it's gonna be certain projects
that have proved that they were
building and that are shipping. So you see pudgy penguins doodles did the McDonald's thing. They're
now coming out with their token, but I mean, they're only at three. I think those are, I think
they're free right now at three. I think doodles are going to, are going to eat pretty well,
but then you see a Zuki who I think rushed their token, um, like
extremely fast and it's done nothing but eat shit in the floor prices, like kind
of followed suit.
So like, I mean, do you, do you hold the Zuki's or no?
No, I did all the way back in 21 and early 22.
And then I, I sold them, um, relatively early.
I never, I think I maybe got some elementals and
sold those as well. But yeah, I had no Azuki exposure. It's sort of like the classic,
you know, that roller coaster with like diminishing returns image where it's like penguins and
penguins was like the big one and then Azuki was less and then, you know, we'll have to wait and see what happens now. I do think doodles could buck that
trend and come out with a token that performs better than a lot of people are expecting,
but so much depends on the market. If we're in a hyper bullish market now, you might be seeing
Azuki and their anime token literally 20 20 extra price where it is now for the
token. But, um, because the whole market crash and tanked alts just led 50, 90,
95, 99%. Yeah.
Yeah. Um, all right. So before we get in,
cause I do want to discuss TGS and coins, uh,
related to these projects. And before we roll off of NFTs, um,
what are your thoughts on gaming NFTs, gaming projects?
Because we haven't had this gaming explosion
like people have thought.
And many founders that I talked to,
they still think we're a few months away
from that happening, like mid-summer.
It's starting to spin up though.
You can tell it's starting to spin up.
You're seeing my pet hooligans on Xbox now.
I just saw-
Forgotten Runes yesterday were eligible to build
on PlayStation, Xbox and PC.
Yeah, and by the way, the whole abstract thing,
like I would say the difference between like
ape chain NFTs and abstract NFTs right now
is like ecosystems.
A lot of them have playable little ecosystems.
They're not like Xbox games, but you know,
it's something to do versus just art.
Yeah, yeah.
So what are your thoughts on gaming in general, Zemmika?
Yeah, I mean, I'm a massive gamer.
I've played games all my life.
I think it's sort of like,
on the one hand, it's a match made in heaven.
You know, people are like three-plus billion gamers
around the world already spending money in game,
playing in digital worlds.
Um, it makes perfect sense that they should be NFT and you can trade them and
all that kind of stuff. And I think that we'll get there. Um,
but I think that the sort of it's at odds with this other, um, element,
which I've always, or for a long time, thought is holding the industry back,
which is that a lot of the time people play games, they don't want to think about money.
They don't want to think about value or trading.
People play games to escape the real world, to escape thinking and stressing about money
and finance.
All of a sudden, if you're playing a game and you find an item and it's worth $10 and
you have to decide, do I sell it now or do I wait?
And then you wait and the next day it's worth 50.
And then you're like, wow, this is great.
Do I sell it now?
And you don't sell. And the next day it's worth 50 and then you're like wow this is great do I sell it now and you don't sell and the day after it's worth five and then all of a sudden you're stressed
and upset and like playing the game becomes this speculative financial game which for us DGENs
that's probably a lot of fun but for most of the world the stock market is too risky so they don't
want to be doing this with with gaming assets I think most people just want to play a game and
have fun so I think once NFT
and Web3 gaming comes out with games that are fun, where the NFT element is not forced upon people
and you can just play the game. And if you want to speculate and trade, then you can. I think that's
when things will eventually pop off. And it just takes one. I think it just takes one crypto NFT game to just go mainstream to have millions of players and then the floodgates
will absolutely open. I don't know if that happened in a few months or a few years or
whenever, but it'll eventually happen. I think I was thinking off the grid might,
you know, jumpstart a lot of that. Have you played off the grid? I've not played it,
but I've seen footage of it and I have a lot of people. Have you played off the grid? I've not played it, but I've seen footage of it. No, I know.
I played it. Yeah. Everyone said it's fun. Everyone says it is fun.
It's you know, it's just it's it's a limited release right now
and it's going to struggle to compete with other games in the same genre.
But it is fun. It's a very unique twist on that game genre.
Just it's it's definitely fun.
Have you seen any of the other gaming ecosystems we would
get yelled at if we didn't ask you if you saw the videos of the Creeps games? Did you see
Creeps Clash and Creeps Party? Have you had a chance to see that? No, I have some Creeps,
but again, scatterbrain, I just can't follow everything. But no, I'm definitely going to go
check that out afterwards because, yeah, I mean, again, I love games. Um, the only other game that I've sort of looked at and played is the
Forgotten Runes one, um, which, uh, it was a lot of fun.
Like I enjoyed playing it.
I put a bunch of hours into it and I think what they're doing is really cool.
So yeah, there's some cool stuff coming.
Yeah.
We had the Forgotten Runes guys on, uh, maybe a month ago.
Um, and, uh, they came in, they,
we had no idea they were about to, you know, build for PlayStation and X-Box, which is
massive. I mean, my pet hooligan announced that their game is like really well done and
their floor price went up like 0.1. Yeah. Nobody's paying it to these moves three years ago. Oh my God. My pet hooligans
will be sitting at 30. Yeah. Well, because the, the ability to game the ecosystem isn't
clear yet. Right. And there may not be a lot of ability. Like the reality is like a lot
of these projects may have just launched a very successful IP. And like, look, when it
comes to these games, like what Zeneca was saying is a hundred percent accurate about
people not wanting to stress over the value of their assets.
I think the best way to pull this off will be in such a way that like,
the game is really playable with, for the most part, without even the blockchain side of it.
And then there's like a little niche corner of the game for the DGENs, I think, you know? Like dual currencies, which most games already have.
think you know like dual currencies which most games already have
uh... one currency is more of like a stable coin that doesn't lose its value
that normies can buy things with or whatever and then have like you know
exclusive items in this other weird currency that the degens can play with
you know yeah
it looks great this this party game the creeps party game
the creeps party looks like it's going to be super kid friendly, super fun.
So it's like, you know, I think, I think they said like 40 people to a lobby.
It's going to be an absolute riot.
And then creeps clash is more of a third person shooter.
It was like a different classes of a character type game.
Yeah. I don't even know where that one's at, but yeah, they're, they're,
they're dropping multiple campaigns, you know, with that SOMO, um, all kinds of
different things going on. So, yeah, you know, VC funding in 2024 took a downturn.
Um, as far as like crypto startups and web three startups in particular in the
gaming industry, you know, but obviously, you know, Trump gets voted in in November,
uh, crypto regulations are starting to, you know, ease up.
We're getting more clarity here, at least in the states.
What are your like?
What's your thoughts on the state of the market right now?
What you know, what direction you think we're headed in?
Yeah, I see the trillion dollar question, isn't it?
I I.
I think so, I actually wrote about this last week in my newsletter.
It was like, is the bull market over and do we see a new all-time high for Bitcoin this
year?
And ultimately, I weighed up all the pros and cons and came to the conclusion that I
personally feel like there's maybe a 20, 25% chance we've topped bull market is over,
four-year cycle is strictly broken, which means 75 to 80% chance
means the bull is still going, we'll hit a new all-time high this year or early next year.
And a lot of that's based on the regulatory environment has massively changed. The flood
gates are open now, the strategic Bitcoin reserves and US government is setting up.
Individual US states are talking about it. Individual US states are talking about it.
Other nation states are talking about it. And if they start buying, I don't think people are...I
think that is a significant catalyst for price to go up. But some of the negatives are that
it's been crime season, mean coins hurt a lot of people, retail is not going to come back.
A lot of the big news events are behind us,
like the ETS have launched, the election has happened,
Trump has gone in, he's fulfilled his election promises.
Like what's the next thing?
There's not a clear next catalyst for the next leg up.
Yeah, and it's hard, it's so hard to say,
but I still feel like more likely than not, ball will continue this year when I have no idea.
Yeah, I mean hopefully the catalyst for the next leg up is just everything settling I mean if you can.
You know if we don't end up in world war three and all things come back to peace and if you know the economic.
Posturing across various countries and now and tariffs go away and you know, everything
gets to, you know, I think that's what we're basically waiting for. Um, so, you know, we,
that might take a few months yet. It might even take a year, but I think, you know, I
don't think the bull runs over. I think it's just on pause because of everything.
Well, the problem is the tariffs I don't think are going to go away. That's how Trump wants
to get rid of taxes for people that are making less than a couple hundred grand a year
I don't think they'll go to zero, but I do think that you know sooner or later
You know these these trade agreements will you know everybody's gonna come back to the table and sort of you know
Chill out a little bit. Yeah
What's the guy's name Alan Bach? I think is his name. One of the guys
that was, uh, you know, they thought to be Satoshi. Um, he said it in a thing in an interview,
not even like two months ago that there's no way we're not going higher. Bitcoin's definitely
going over 150 K because of all the States in the U S trying to buy Bitcoin. You have sovereign
wealth buying Bitcoin. I mean, it's just so many people gonna be buying that.
It's, it can't stay held down forever.
And it's gonna be a pretty big explosion.
Do we feel that in NFTs?
Who the hell knows?
You know, I'm here for it if we do,
but I'm not sure.
You know, could be Fartcoin that runs with Bitcoin, who knows?
It might just be, dude.
Yeah, I know.
All right, so beyond that, so now,
yesterday on the timeline, I don't know if you responded
to any of the feedback about people that invested in TGEs,
and there was a lot of sentiment about
whether they should get refunds
if it's been such a long time.
I'm in several that it's been, we're approaching a year
and it is a long time to not have that money.
When I think about it, yeah, I'm angry,
but at the same time I'm like,
well, it's like a savings account
because I probably would have lost that money in meme coins
or doing something dumb.
What are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, I actually made a post about it yesterday as well because in general, I think, no, you
shouldn't expect to refund. If you invest in a company, then you take on a lot of the risk.
And part of that risk is that you just invested in a bunch of buffoons who don't know what they're
doing and they delay TGE and then they run out of money. And like, that's a risk. A risk is that they rug you.
The risk is market conditions are bad.
There's all these risks you take on as an investor.
Um, but the, my post yesterday was about a specific instance where I invested in a
project about a year ago.
And then, um, shortly after it came out that one of the founders was doing like
some shady shit, he was like selling his token allocation on the the private market and doing all sorts of stuff that he shouldn't
have been doing. So they removed him and I was like, that's not great. And then they
were like, if you want, we'll refund your money. And I was kind of borderline on the
investment to begin with. And so I thought, you know what? Yeah, okay, I'll take the money
back. This seems not great. And so they said, all right, we'll just need some detailed, you know, full name, address, wallet address and stuff. So I sent it over and they're like, cool, we're processing it, we'll get back to you. And then like a week goes by two weeks, nothing here. So I follow up what's happening. Yeah, we're getting to it. We're getting to it. Another week goes by, follow up again. And then they come back with, oh, actually, you know what, We spoke to Legal and they said we don't actually have to refund you.
So, haha, we're just going to keep the money now.
So now I'm still invested in them.
And this is a really awkward relationship where they offered a refund, took it back.
And, yeah, I don't know what's happening.
Yeah, that's nuts.
They should have known that they didn't have to refund you to begin with.
Making that offer is wild if you're not going to intend to go through with it.
Like, that's nuts.
Yeah.
Unless you sign something that said we will release or refund within a year,
you know, with given time constraints, then yeah, I mean, you're just, you're
screwed.
Um, I know several people that were involved with, um, the, uh, Valeria
project and that one went down and they gave up a substantial chunk.
I know one guy, great example of things just not working out. Yeah. You know,
which is a total possibility. Sometimes it's not even something nefarious that happens. They
don't just like run off with the bag. It just, you know, the thing fails the product that they build.
It's hard to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's very, I don't understand it. I don't know how, um, I don't know how you can do it as a founder.
Like, yeah, you have your NFTs. Um, you know, you have Zen Academy, a lot of the utility there is the, you providing information and insight and, you know, doing those things.
I'm sure you get approached all the time saying here, give your community these a hundred white lists, you know, doing those things, I'm sure you get approached all the times and here give your community these 100 whitelists,
you know, those types of things.
But then at that point,
you have to vet all these different brands
or a mod or someone you've hired
has to do all these things.
And like that's totally different
than building out doodles, you know,
or building out like some massive IP
and the thought of doing either one.
I have people asking me all the time,
why aren't you doing a project?
And I'm like, for what?
What am I gonna give them?
Like I-
Hold on now, you're a founder.
You launched a project on abstract.
I don't wanna do that.
Yeah, I've done like some dumb shit on abstract,
but yeah, it's very difficult.
What do you think of abstract?
What do you think what Luca's doing here?
Do you think it's a good sustainable product
or what's your thoughts on?
Yeah, it's cool.
I think they made it user friendly.
I think the streaming element is really cool.
Like I've done like,
I've been like five abstract streams this week
because everyone wants to stream on abstract at the moment.
And I think that's how you get more eyeballs
and attention to the chain.
I think, I think Luca tweeted today that it just takes one killer app and,
you know, it'll become one of the most popular L2s.
And I'd very much agree with that.
I think that's true for almost any blockchain.
It just has pump fun.
How much of that helps Solana and the popularity of that.
Fantasy top is like the only thing people do on blast right now and it's like the entire
chain is surviving because of this Fantasy Top game. So yeah, if there's an app that people love
on the abstract, which there probably will be, I think it'll do really, really well. And you know,
they've got a die-hard community behind them, Pudgy Penguins, and Luca has proven time and time
and time again, and he knows how to execute. And, and importantly, he knows how to market.
I think that's one of the problems that a lot of L2s and blockchains have is that even
Ethereum at the moment is struggling with like a marketing issue, a branding issue,
a perception issue.
Like what, what, what does the chain stand for?
What is it for?
How does it look different from the others?
And I think Luca really understands marketing and user acquisition and stuff like that.
So yeah, I'm pretty optimistic and bullish on it. It's long term prospects. But what do you make of so I love Lucas strategy
as far as if it's built, if it's done, he doesn't give a shit about market conditions.
He drops it. It is what it is like everything he has done most announcements, whether it's
clothing, everything he does,
he just drops it when it's ready to go.
He doesn't care.
Bitcoin's at 50 grand.
I'm sure he looks at, I'm sure they look at that.
You know, they haven't dropped the abstract token yet though.
So you can say he's, he's been building the runway for the opportune moment
to actually launch the token.
Yeah.
But Michael and the guys, yeah, but Michael and the guys, they were building frame before it was actually,
uh, abstract. So then they come along, change a lot of the dynamics.
I don't know what frame was originally supposed to be.
I know streaming wasn't part of it.
Everybody just thought they were getting an air, another airdrop.
So we were all excited about it. And, uh, I still want my frame.
I know everybody wants their frame airdrop. It was, I had a lot of points on it.
Right. So I think we'll get it. Yeah. In abstract. Yeah. Uh, but I mean,
I've, I've heard abstract, you know, like a month ago was four to six months out.
It could come sooner. Who knows? Four to six months out. I want to keep farming XP, bro.
Yeah. And drop I can get.
They didn't do any public raise for.
Pingu.
They did.
They're definitely not going to do one for abstract.
I'm sure.
I'm sure it's all just big backend investments that are, uh, that are jumping in.
So, um, I mean, I just, I liked that because I know of several brands that say
they have stuff ready to go.
They're just waiting on better macro conditions and this and that.
But it's like, if all the, if everybody's waiting for better conditions is, is
some stuff not going to get lost in the sauce when everybody's trying to drop at
one time, what do you think?
Do you think people should just be dropping it now?
For the most part?
Yeah.
I think that, um that you want some flexibility because
there's just some days that you don't want to drop. Like the massive news event and you're
just going to be overshadowed by that. The market just like literally Bitcoin drops 12% and no one
cares about your whatever you're doing. So a little bit of flexibility I think is good,
but delay after delay after delay, waiting months and months and months.
I think is a really bad idea.
I think just basically you want to get it out there as soon as possible.
Um, which means ideally as soon as it's ready, fully ready, you drop it.
But I think you want to keep a little bit of flexibility just in case.
Do you think there's a difference between an NFT ecosystem versus a token in that same line of questioning i mean a token i think really does actually liver died based on market conditions versus like.
NFT ecosystem i don't know if the vibes are good and you built a big community it's gonna be successful but.
Yeah i'm.
Yeah, there's definitely a difference. I agree that a token in very market condition,
I guess if you're trying to mint out an NFT collection, then it comes into the price point.
In a better market, you can probably charge more. In a worse market, a lot of projects went to
fully free mint during the depths of the bear because like a 0.01 or 0.02 mint,
they weren't minting out.
So yeah, I think that's the big difference
with like an NFT mint, you can dictate the mint price.
Whereas if the token, it's just, yeah,
they were market makers, but for the most part,
it's just the free market that will decide
the price of this thing.
It's out of your hands.
And that's a scary thing for, for, uh, founders, I think.
It's good.
Yeah.
I didn't really even thought about playing.
Yeah.
You can't vet that slider of the mint prices.
Uh, yeah, that's a good tool for NFT projects.
So I got a question.
Uh, it's a little bit.
Oh, I mean, we've seen it with Ryu anyways.
Um, go ahead, Kenny.
Right now it's a, it's a little bit of a pivot, but I'm just curious. I want to get Seneca's take. So I'm a big believer in the intersection of AI and crypto. Obviously, we have this kind of bubble that came out, you know, and a lot of these AI quote, quote unquote, AI, LLMs came out, you know, the market cap of the entire industry shot up really quickly, kind of creating
this bubble.
I'm not a huge fan of the LLMs, but I am a fan of you're taking two of the biggest
technology sectors and you're taking crypto and AI, integrating them two together.
And I believe the future could be pretty bright as far as the technology behind what you can do,
as far as DeFi tools and whatnot.
What are your thoughts on AI and crypto in general?
Exactly.
Basically, I would have said the same thing.
I have said the same thing this week.
You got the two biggest technologies in the world, AI and crypto,
and the intersection of them is going to be incredibly exciting and powerful,
and cool things are going to happen.
And to a certain extent, I think AI needs crypto or the world, an AI-powered world needs blockchain technology to have this central point of truth.
In a world where the internet is full of bots and fake content, we're going to want to know what's authentic and what's genuine and what's real.
And blockchains are a fantastic way of doing that. When it comes to the crypto side of it,
yes, I still think there'll be tokens that do really well. The big question is,
is it existing tokens? Are any of the existing tokens going to be around a year from now,
five years from now? Or will it be new things that launch? Most of the stuff that was in the most
recent AI boom was just speculative
AI chat bots that went to ridiculous valuations. They were basically meme coins, but they had
that sprinkle of utility and the hope of something more. So I think that's what appealed to a
lot of people. But there's some really cool stuff happening with DeFi, D-E-F-A-I, where, you know, just natural language interface
of transaction on blockchains instead of needing to do all the complex bridging and stuff.
But yeah, anyway, long way of saying I fully agree with you. I think it's a very exciting
space to watch. And basically all my non NFT, non major bags, like altcoins are in AI related
tokens at the moment.
Yeah, no, I, you know, I'm super bullish on it. I kind of get clowns sometimes by some of my co-hosts not going to name me.
Yeah, bro, you want to be an AI coin.
Like, I don't know who would clown you about that.
KB, I can't believe I can't believe someone would imply
that the cutting edge of AI technology isn't fucking being launched off a pump.
And I don't know who would imply that.
Yeah, I mean, I can agree with that. And you know, it was a bubble and like, yeah, I look, but you can't deny the technology. And like, having, you know, these tools to help you, you know, bridge and make trades and can autonomously eventually trade for
you based on algorithmic algorithmic trends, you know,
like that is huge. And, you know, I think that's something
that, you know, over the years is AI is integrated more into
everyday life. People are gonna want to use tools like that,
you know, so yeah, I agree with you, Zeneca.
Um, all right, so we've been at it for an hour with these.
And we usually run like two or three hours. So I know it's getting late for you.
Yeah. I'm probably going to bounce before that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But I wanted to ask you before you did end up leaving, uh,
like as far as NFTs right now, who are you most bullish on?
What brands and what brands that like,
maybe we don't know enough about that are coming,
that are coming with some mints.
Final boss who I'm bullish on.
I know Kev the founder.
I've known him for years in the space.
And I've just seen-
Bro, I've been trying to get him on this show forever.
I've been in comments everywhere
and I can't get him on the fucking, he won't respond.
I will talk to him and just see if he's still wanting to do shows.
Obviously he's crazy busy.
They're minted in three days.
Yeah, they're minted Monday.
Um, on the final BOSU thing, do you think I keep saying that anime projects are
cursed on the blockchain because anime dorks just want to buy a Zuki IP.
Is that going to be a problem for them?
Do you think?
Um, I kind of have a little bit of that same sense that anime projects are cursed.
Uh, it's, it's a struggle, but I think that there is room for multiple anime projects
in the world.
I think with the NFT IP, I think if it's good enough, it will stand out.
And I think that there I've seen like their animation and sort of side by side
with the Yuzuki animation and personally, I like it more.
I think it's more interesting and more compelling and, and all that kind of stuff.
And so if anime fans agree with that, then, then it can survive.
And it's also extraordinarily different price points now.
Like most people can't afford, I mean, Yuzuki dropped a lot, but they're still
like what three ETH, four ETH, it's like... Well, the thing about the Izuki ecosystem though,
is that there's also elementals and beans. So there's actually a lot of NFTs at different
price points. But I agree. I actually think their animation is really top-notch. I mean,
even this Ryu project, I was looking at some of their content and that's pretty cool too.
And it's a very different, it's still animated.
It's a different anime style, which is, you know,
there's potential there as well.
But yeah, I was just curious.
We'll see.
Is Kevin Australian?
No, he's Dutch.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, lives in Europe.
I'm pretty sure he's Dutch, but yeah, he lives in Europe.
Yeah, well, what got me interested,
because I don't know everything about Bosu,
but his tweet yesterday, start bridging abstract friends.
First up, pre-order drops this Monday
for those on the list.
No worries if you miss it.
We've got a larger public mint coming for everyone.
Big event, 2021 style. So are they
doing something different that like unconventional from just a
normal, here's our collection size meant it's not gonna be
like a free for all right.
I don't know for sure. I don't think so. I think it's gonna be
like a traditional in the sense that I think there'll be a 10k
collection of 5k or whatever. I think it'll be that
it might be like an auction mechanic or something for the public side of it, which we've seen a lot
of lately. But yeah, I'm not aware of anything too crazy. Yeah, that's what good vibes was. Good
vibes was auctioned. It was, you know, when you put in as many as you wanted and you ended up
getting what you got. All right, so besides
Basu what else what else are you looking at?
Not really aware of too many other new projects coming up
I'm a fan of a ton of like all the stuff historical stuff like punks and pudgies
And I've always said a big fan of those a lot of art
I think is still a little bit under the radar a lot of generative art terraforms by math castles
I've just always be a massive fan of them. I think they're just really really cool
Yeah, I mean
These hoodies sales on these punks at 120 is that not cheap?
I mean, it's a lot of money, but yeah.
It's explore or something like that.
Three to four explore.
Yeah. I mean, I just, for some reason in my mind,
I'm thinking like those should be like 500 ETH.
I don't know why I'm thinking.
Yeah. A couple hundred. I would, I would imagine.
But yeah, you know, market free market.
Mark's can do what Mark's gonna do.
Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, I, I'm a, I'm a huge punk fan. Uh,
don't know. I'll ever own one. Uh, want one. I mean, bro,
they were such a steal at the depth of the bear. Cause what they were in,
I think they hit the teams.
Low twenties.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Goodness. Yeah. And looking like a thousand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But Jesus is like the number one crypto punks window shopper. The guy, you know, I have a tab up every day, bro. Yeah.
Yeah. Every day I am there. It takes me literally. Just set aside some fun for the next fan bucket. Yeah. It literally takes seconds just to get over here, get in DMS,
start looking at punks. Uh, there's so many cool ones. Um,
here we go. There's the green.
I share this every day and I'm like doing punk window shopping,
but there's so many cool ones, man. Uh,
there's provenance to like the 2021 collection still like do you think those over time will continue to you know?
as the originators of the nft
Cycle, like do you think there's a provenance to the 2021 collections and before that?
Um, just like any any old collection. No, I think I think there were way too many in 2021 to have any
sort of like historical relevance.
There might be with things like Avastars, which launched, I think it was 2020 that they
launched, they were a pretty pivotal collection.
Hashmasks maybe, they were like basically anything pre board apes has a chance of
having that, but board apes have opened the flood gates and then you have like a
bazillion NFT projects launch afterwards.
And I don't think that provenance enough is enough for any of those
uh, sustained relevance.
Go get crypto kiddies and crypto Dick butts and call it a day.
They ran the skulls.
They all randomly just out of nowhere will go from nothing to 10
ETH and then they just fade back away until the next cycle. Um, yeah, I'm gonna get off this
screen before I start crying even more. I go there and then I go to pudgies and then I go back to
board eight. Uh, and everybody's like, I'll just get a mutant. And I'm like, no, a mutant means
you're too cheap to be able to buy a board eight. So it's, I don't, I don't dig it.
Are you, are you a Yuga fan?
I'm a overall a fan.
Yeah.
I have, uh, I have one eight.
I, I got in relatively early, like 0.5, 0.7 ETH and basically hold them, held
them all the way up and most of the way down.
Um, you know, Yuga has been very good to me.
I think they've done a lot of really cool things
and then they've also done a lot of like missteps.
The other side meant was an absolute disaster.
Oh, it was brutal.
Terrible like that, that was the top of the market.
It just crashed everything,
sucked all the liquidity out that took years
to recover from.
Yeah, so they've had an up and down road,
but I'm a fan of Yuga still.
Yeah, yeah.
I had a friend that, it was a group of friends
and I think collectively they lost about almost 200 grand
on other side meant because they were buying Apecoin
trying to get enough and Apecoin was just running up
and running up and running up.
So by the time they were buying Apecoin,
they were buying it at, I think it was like $18, $19 still.
And then they were submitting to get their,
to get their bid in or to buy, then it would fail.
Then by the time they were able to sell their Apecoin,
they only were able to mint one piece of land
when they should have been able to get like eight.
And they only got one piece. And then by the time they able to get like eight and they only got one
piece and then by the time they went to go sell the eight coin eight coin had already
dropped back down significantly like 60% and so yeah they lost so much money it was I just
remember the watch party we had on the gas wars I I mean, people are literally losing 20 $30,000 and eat gas fees, you know, for a field transaction.
It was just insane. Yeah, way was what 2000 it was just it was
insane. A lot of money to watch. But it was like that. I was
five hours long. It wasn't this window. It's just lasted for
hours and hours and hours.
Yeah, it was like that when doodles was minting too.
I was trying to mint doodles and gas was just like,
it was like too neat for gas.
Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, speeding it up was two and a half
eith and I'm like, no, I'm not doing that.
And then I see a tweet in pranksy meant 65 of them.
I'm like, how the fuck did he get 65 minutes to go through?
And I couldn't even get one to go through.
But it's, I mean, just like you said earlier, bro,
people have just too much money.
Well, since we're speaking about, you know, gas prices,
but real quick, Seneca, thoughts on Ethereum moving forward?
What's your thoughts?
I'm still bullish.
I think that there's obviously like a crisis might be the wrong word, but like just a,
it's been struggling for a variety of reasons.
And I think that that it makes sense that it's been struggling.
But when you look at the TVL on the chain, the people and projects and companies and
businesses and layer twos and everything that's being built on top of it, the number of devs building on it.
I just struggle to see a scenario where it doesn't bounce back and recover and maintain
a significant amount of dominance within the space.
Whether it outperforms Bitcoin from here on out, it's impossible to say.
I think it will just because it's dropped so much, but we all know that just because something's dropped 50 or 80% doesn't mean it can't drop
another 50.
Solana was $8 at one point.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kyle says that all the time.
He's like, just because it dropped 90% doesn't mean it can't drop another 90.
He's like, yeah, you know, it'll eventually.
One thing about crypto.
Yeah.
But I'm a
majority of my
Portfolio value is either ETH or like each NFTs or tokens on ETH
Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing is like even though L twos and everything
I mean look even if he doesn't gig us in that doesn't mean that assets like NFTs on aetherium can't outperform everything. I mean it. Yeah. Yeah
Zeneca Museum of NFTs
Probably not
I'm crazy like digital art galleries and stuff and I had so much fun with that back in 21
Just like going through the collection and you know picking out what you want to put in the gallery and stuff like that
But yeah, probably I think I don't have enough
for a museum anymore.
I've been slowly selling and selling.
I had so many NFTs in 2012.
Constantly trying to get rid of them since then.
I think it was last year you put out a post
that was like something about like,
it's not that I'm not bullish on these communities,
but I'm just purging the shit out of my bags.
And you were dumping, bro, you were dumping. And I actually got in your DMs and I was like, yo, everything
good. I wanted to check and make sure you knew what was going on. Cause you did sell
a few creeps. You still have some. Um, cause and it was, cause it was shortly after you
put a big article in Zen Academy about creeps and what they were doing and all those things.
So yeah, it was around that time because I just, I have way too, like I still have
too many and can't keep up with the ones that I have.
Um, I would miss out announcements and airdrops and I couldn't track it all.
So I've just constantly been trying to get that back down to something more
manageable, but the thing with NFC is like, you can't just easily market
sell a bunch of them if there's no liquidity, if there are no bids, um, or
if the bids are well below floor, you don't really want to take them.
Um, so it can just take time to sell out of a bunch of positions.
Yeah.
Because then you end up being getting shitty reviews on ethos saying this guy
came in and dumped 200 of our NFTs.
You know, you end up getting some dumb write-up like that.
So yeah, I don't envy that position.
Uh, I mean,
I wish I had the NFTs to have to go dump on somebody, but, you know, I mean, but it's a good,
good spot you're in, man. Yeah. I think like cell shaming used to be worse. I think people have kind
of gotten over it now, but I remember in 21, especially people just like a very, very, uh,
defensive of their communities and they got the pitchforks out of someone selling.
Like, yeah, it was, it was just toxic. But I think now have you seen, have you seen these
Avax coins though that are putting up the shame? Yes, yes, yes, yes. So like they've,
they got a whole fucking website dedicated to, which is wild, man. I mean, I don't care
if I put in, you know, that also contributed to that AVAX meme coin cycle being pretty short-lived.
It died so quickly. It died so quickly.
Yeah, well, we still have that boy project. I'm curious to see how that one does.
But yeah, very short-lived, and it seems like that for the majority of, you know, it seems like Solana has been for the past year,
the preferred, you know preferred crypto casino chain.
We saw a run on Tron.
We saw BNB is actually doing pretty good right now,
but we saw some suey ones going off.
People tried to pump XRP memes.
It just doesn't work.
It seems like the majority, especially with the high caliber
celebrity status people like Trump launching on Solana,
it seems like it's still the preferred chain for meme coins.
But do you think the meme coins make a run back up at some point here?
Because obviously, you know, overall market cap has come down dramatically.
Volume has gone down.
I think Solana Dex volume yesterday was just over one billion dollars.
At the peak of January, it was fifteen point five billion.
Wow. Yeah.
So do you think we see a revival in the meme coin market at some
point here? I think there's a bounce back and resurgence. I don't know that it will be the same
as it was, but I think like there'll be a handful of memes or maybe 10, I don't know how many,
that will bounce back and do really well. I think that there's enough attention behind them, enough cult followings. There is something appealing about them that a lot of people do like. So
I think they'll come back. I don't know that it'll be the same main year of the pump fun
era. I think similar to NFTs in 2021, it was crazy. There were coins running to 100, 200
million market cap every single day for a while. I don't
necessarily know that we get that back, but I also wouldn't be shocked if we did for a while because
DJ's are gonna DJ and if the market is hot then people will just go crazy still
What's your thoughts on the LA vape cabal?
Yeah, I wanted to see what he was thinking. Yeah. I mean, uh, things have died down since this whole fucking exposure with Meteora and everything. Um, so I was,
I was getting married and sitting on the beach after like what, when, when that all went
down and when like the Libra coin and when they left Twitter. And so I really missed
it. It came back and they weren't around and I just pieced together a little bit of it. But I guess my general thoughts are
that they're all different people. So I think Thread Guy is amazing. I genuinely like him a
lot. I think he adds a lot of value to the space, brings a lot of positivity and enthusiasm and has
always good intentions.
I don't know the others nearly as well, or don't know of them nearly as well, and I think
that there's probably been some less great things that some of them have done, but I
just don't know well enough to say.
I agree with you on Thread Guy.
I saw him pop into a space the other day.
He didn't come up on stage, but it was the first time I'd seen him pop onto Twitter for a few days.
So hopefully he'll slowly make his way back.
I think so.
Um, yeah, I mean, like, I think that.
They may not have had bad intentions, but I think that there were definitely
things that hurt a lot of their followers, um, which is not great.
Um, hopefully they learn from it.
Hopefully they don't do it again.
But yeah, that all goes back to the benefit of ethos and why I think ethos is important
and having that social credit score in people getting the extension.
And if you're in the space, guys, if you don't, even if you don't have an invite yet,
just get the extension so you can see,
you know, what these people are doing.
And then you take those opinions and reviews
with a grain of salt,
but at least it gives you some insight into some things.
Because like, I don't know when it was,
but I mentioned Ryan Carson in a space
and everybody's like, a couple of people were like,
well, who was Ryan Carson?
What did he do?
You know, he didn't necessarily do like, you know,
he wasn't rugged people for hundreds of millions of dollars,
but the story can be told in a credit score review
of what he did and you know, how all that went
when he was trying to drop that project.
So like, I mean, I think it's very important.
So, you know, so yeah, get think it's very important. So, you know. Yeah.
So yeah, get the damn ethos extension people.
Definitely.
All right friends, I think I'll jump.
Yeah bro.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, and we appreciate it.
Yeah, it's what is it?
1.30 in the morning there?
Mm-hmm, coming up on that.
How are you balancing that?
Your wife obviously knows who you are, what you do.
Yeah.
You live in all, I mean,
it's such a shitty time zone, right?
So like, I'm not always like this.
Like sometimes, I'll just go through cycles where like,
I have like three, four weeks where I have to go to sleep
at 10 p.m., wake up at six, seven a.m., whatever.
And then I'll be like, oh, there's a mint or a presale
or whatever things I need to be awake for.
And then I'm just like setting up late at night
and sleeping till nine, 10, 1 p.m., whatever.
And then I get back into normal. I've been like that for years.
Um, it was way worse than 21, like 2021 I would sleep cause I was living in
Germany at the time and I would, I would literally go to sleep at like 6 a.m., 7
a.m. and then just be asleep the whole day and then wake up in the, yeah.
In the afternoon or evening.
Um, so it's better now.
Uh, I don't know.
We, we, we deal.
Nice. All right. Well, don't know, we deal. Nice.
All right, well, cool.
Well, bro, yeah, we appreciate you coming on.
Always welcome back.
Great talking to you, man.
That was a great conversation.
Likewise, thank you so much for having me.
It was great chatting with you all.
Yeah, man.
And congratulations again on the marriage.
Thank you so much.
You know, and yeah, we hope to see you back on soon.
Yeah, appreciate it.
Appreciate it, bro.
Take care. Yeah, see you back on soon. Yeah Thank you, all right
Um, hi, let's continue this madness Kyle. Didn't you say you had to bounce or Kenny Kenny had to leave?
You going bro, dude
Going to the bar
What is the going to the bar? It's 1130
It's also March Madness and my Houston Cougars play at one o'clock today. So meet some friends over there. We're going to have what's his
name or what's her name? No, no, it's it's some of my buddies who I went to college with.
So we're going to meet up and watch the college basketball games. And that's at one o'clock. The coup started one o'clock by the game starting about an
hour. The first games kick off in about an hour, less than an hour. I think Kenny's going
to the bar to meet some Cougars. If you think he's going. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That was
a good interview. Zenica's a nice guy. Good, good takes on NFTs and everything KP kept trying to drag him into talking about meme coins cuz that's all he gives a fuck about
I was just trying to get a sentiment of you know, the overall market and different. Are you even out of bed yet, bitch?
Yeah, I'm out of bed. You woke my ass up a fuck real don't remember. Yeah
So, yeah, that's what I'll be doing. No, but I can run it for another 30. No problem
Hi, so what the fuck else is even going on?
Just getting some notifications about
Trump calling what Congress to
Come together for some regulation on stable coins. I don't know if the market reacted to that or not. What's Bitcoin doing right now?
I'm bitcoins at 85 775. I mean it it you know, obviously it almost hit 88 last night
It got up to 87 5 it's come down a couple thousand dollars from then
I mean enough enough to make people think that we're bullish again
Ethereum cracked 2000 got up to 2050 back
down to 1986 down 2.25% on the day Solana back under 130. So I don't know. I don't
know if it was a little bit of a bull trap, you know, the pump yesterday. But overall,
I still feel relatively good. You know, something that Powell said that, you know, like he thought
tariffs were like the impact of what tariffs will have is being overblown.
You know, so that's kind of what send the traditional market,
you know, stocks ripped yesterday.
They're down this morning.
But as of yesterday, you know, after the meeting and the press conference, you know, stocks were ripping.
Dow was up, S&P was up, Nasdaq was up, so it's kind of giving back some of the gains this morning,
but overall, I think we're in a decent spot.
It seemed like the market just didn't want bad news.
It didn't really need the good news of, like, rates dropped,
but, like, just the absence of bad news of rates increasing kind of sent the market anyway, you know?
Right, right. But no, I think we're in a good situation right
now.
When is
supposed to talk today? I think I think it was supposed to
release some crypto announcement today. I guess it's what Kyle
saying regarding stable coins.
Yeah, I did pin this other thing about and I don't know how far they've gone with this.
I'm not European, but this was from Degen news just a couple hours ago.
I'm not sure what the ECB is.
I'm assuming that's an acronym for some bureaucracy over there.
But one of their executive board members says the digital euro would curtail the risk that
domestic currency stablecoins might gain a significant market share in the domestic payment
system, which would be highly disruptive for the banking systems and credit intermediation.
So basically, crypto is a threat to their stranglehold on their economic
systems, so they need to come up with a digital currency that they control.
Which is basically exactly what we're drawing to outlaw in America right now.
Um, yeah, not a big fan of, uh, digital currencies.
I pinned it to the top DGN news posts that had just a couple of hours ago.
So these motherfuckers can't post on Twitter or X and they can't and they're about to get all their
their meme coins
You know centralized or their their everything right? Oh, well, what the fuck canary just filed for a ping-goo ETF
That's crazy. But yeah, yeah, Europe just continuing to, you know,
slide down the slippery slope of tyranny in my opinion.
It's just me.
Yeah.
Kenny, it's so weird with me and Kyle being on stream
and you not being like right here,
part of the conversation.
I'm used to looking at the screen,
but I was looking at Kyle to see when he was talking.
I was just watching the stream the whole time
and not paying attention to you.
So when you were talking,
like I'm used to looking at your mic opening.
And I'm usually looking at other windows anyway.
So I mean, you know, I mean, I have the stream up in one window just to support the boy,
but I am looking at all my other dumb shit.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm starting to think that there's not that many people
farm an abstract.
Why would you think that?
We just yesterday, you got done looking at my points
on the leaderboard.
No, I know, I'm just saying, you got done looking at my points on the leaderboard. I was down.
I know, I'm just saying,
because hardly anybody comes into the stream.
What do you mean?
There's 12 people in here.
Yeah, I know, but how many people are in the actual space?
40, 50, 46?
And what's the top streamer at right now too?
I mean, there's probably what?
Like 100 or shy of 100 people?
Yeah, I mean, dude, it's not,
it's not a premier streaming platform yet.
It's brand new.
It's hard to get them, you know?
Yeah, this badly nasty guy, I don't know who he is.
We have figured out the higher your number,
the more bots that will come in
because people are farming the fuck out of this with bots,
you know, with multiple accounts.
If you go and look at the comments
and scroll up through the comments,
you'll see it's like, oh, nice headshot.
And it's like, what are you talking about, motherfucker?
We're sitting here just talking to each other.
You'll just see random,
you'll see random, random fucking comments through there.
Where is it at? you gotta go in there.
Uh, this new staking mechanism is interesting.
Like what the fuck is that?
It's we weren't even talking about anything yesterday with that. So yeah, pretty wild, pretty wild shit.
I do like that.
Zinnikas like, yeah, if you do, you know, barring any, you know, certain issues,
if you have it ready to go, fucking send it like drop the shit.
You know what I mean?
Like quit sitting on fucking quit sitting on products.
If they're ready to launch.
Yeah.
Kyle's texting somebody.
I don't know what the fuck's good.
What motherfucker?
I can't fucking look at my phone for three seconds.
I was waiting on a response.
Kenny goes locked in.
Jesus has ever been, and he expects the same level of commitment from everyone right now.
Yeah.
They said the audio is better.
Um, S B L E came in here putting one zero zero one one one zero one zero zero,
uh, in the comments and then, yeah.
And, uh, Gilbert Grape said, now you just need to buy Kyle a better camera.
Yeah.
I'm just on my laptop right now.
I actually have an icon Z
six, but I don't have all the stuff to connect all this shit. Look, this is the first time I've
streamed. We'll get there. We will get there, dude. Xanaka and cheese both have like fucking
professional ring lights and nice cameras and shit, bro. I have a nice camera, but don't worry.
We'll get there. It's going to be a slow process. I'm going to have to light together fucking led lights up on the ceiling.
So as I don't, you guys don't need to fucking see my pores like you can.
Jesus is okay.
I think I fucking, I have the filters.
Uh, give me turn the, there's like a filter you can turn on and that enhances.
And it literally looks like the dumb bitches on Instagram where they're,
their eyes look like they look fake. uh, because of the filters, like
popping out there, fucking it's weird.
Um, yeah, not doing any, anything there.
it didn't feel like there's a lot of other like news events happening
in the space since yesterday.
I mean, it's just been, you know, kind of vibes in crypto right now.
People are actually trading NFTs and stuff.
It was a good time to have Zeneca on really.
Yeah, it was.
Creeps are fucking falling off a cliff.
Good job team.
Where are we at?
2.03 ETH and then the-
We need some info.
We need like some solid information.
You know, that was great.
Uh, it was fantastic.
It was all good.
Yeah.
It's just, uh, you know, people still don't have timeframes or
I was aggravated with this this morning.
What's that?
Let me show you on the stream.
Hold on.
I was aggravated with this.
Ain't everybody in the stream, bruh.
But I know.
But guess what?
You should be in the fucking stream.
From a single mouse to a media empire,
same game, new mouse.
Oh, this is the creeps tweet you guys were talking about.
This is the tweet that Joe tweeted. So they're once again referencing. Oh, it wasn the creeps tweet. You guys were talking about. This is the tweet that Joe tweeted. This is so he's right there. Once again, referencing
all the creeps. This was from Joe. Yes. This is from Joe. Yeah. So it's okay. Once again,
referencing creeps as being the new Disney. And it's like, I don't know. Same game, new
mouse. Same. Yeah. From a, from a single mouse to a media empire talking about Mickey mouse, same game to a new mouse.
I mean, I get like the thesis that they're trying to express, but this is like the same thing as when they post like Pokemon right next to some. So it's like dude you guys are like posting like instead of instead of like
giving me a broader scope of the IP like you're putting the IP right next to
like the most nostalgic fucking shit that you could possibly come up with and
it's just like I don't know I don't know how I feel about that personally when I
see Pokemon next to so mo I'm like man, like that is such a high bar
that you're setting for yourself.
You know?
I agree.
I agree.
Danny and Scotty both said abstract stream
always sounds like shit for me.
X super clear in comparison.
Yeah, that's why I just,
like I just usually have the Twitter.
The tab muted.
Yeah, I usually have the tab muted on my computer and then I'm just in the space
on my phone because the audio is always clear here.
Yeah.
He said the audio sounds like shit like the first 20 minutes.
Then that's why.
And that's why people go back to X.
Why in the fuck does the audio sound like shit?
Danny, does the audio still sound like shit?
Like any tabs that have audio set up through them?
I'm usually muting the, I'm usually muting the tabs,
but for some reason like the audio is still like the signal still going through
and I don't understand that. So I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
Just make an announcement about something.
Why one two three four
Oh fuck their floors at 10. Yeah, no, there's been like 20 25 sales in the past like 30 minutes
Fuck bro, they're back up to 10.29 right now 8.8. I was about to pull the trigger. Oh you weren't yes
I was out of here. I was gonna do it through blend
Oh, it's because of the canary thing. It's okay. So igloo the igloo account just tweeted that out seven minutes ago
Today here. I'll pin this to the top today ticker Pingu and pudgy penguins
NFTs were included in an in a ETF filing by Canary Capital
So I think that's what's going on I mean they're flying which is fucking awesome
I mean data is there other NFTs that have been included in a ETF
This is yeah, this is a filing. It doesn't mean it's actually gonna happen. Yeah. Yeah matter
It's still bullish to somebody had the balls to do a fucking ETF on NF on an NFT collection and
It's still bullish to somebody that the balls to do a fucking ETF on NF on an NFT collection and yeah
They're back by Van Egg. So I mean it doesn't it doesn't surprise me that much
Well, they're also like why you throwing shade on I'm also in an environment right now
Politically where these sorts of filings could pass like, you know
You saw a lot of ETFs getting filed over the course of the last four years that you know, it's cool
I guess that somebody bothered to draw up the paperwork, but it was never gonna go through
That's kind of changing now, you know, yeah, they're applying they're up to a
Well, somebody just undercut but yeah over 10 eath
So, yeah, we'll see what happens I didn't realize that the punchy penguins NFTs were also included in that I saw the the ticker pengu announcement earlier, but I didn't see. Yeah, that's not my thoughts is, you know, let's get through Dogecoin first, like the biggest meme coins, Dogecoin, Pepe, Trump, and then and then they'll work their way down towards peng you Well, I mean those is like a shoe in right like we have a fucking government agency named after that
This pudgy right here was the one that me and Cairo were looking at this morning at nine point two e
Okay this morning. I'm on set 11 and why didn't you pull the trigger?
We were just talking we were looking at different pudges. I'm not a fan of that mustache. I'm on set 11. And why didn't you pull the trigger? We were just talking.
We were looking at different pudges.
Not a fan of that mustache.
I like the Fu Manchu.
Eh, not for me.
He was wanting me to get a beard one.
And I'm like, what?
I don't know, the beards are ugly.
I didn't know there were beard ones.
Yeah, there was.
It's not something I've looked at a bunch
because unlike you, I don't typically go shopping
for shit that I definitely can't afford.
Look, this is a pudgy with a beard.
And they're all. Oh, yeah.
That's all the beard. That's like a Santa beard.
That's not a regular guy beard. Exactly.
Yeah. And they just have it as beard.
So, yeah, pretty, pretty interesting.
But yeah, I mean, hey, good for them.
Why didn't they include little pudgies in this?
You know, a little pudgies up to 1.25.
He let them bitches keep running up.
I'm a cell and then I'll just buy back in when it drops back below any Jesus.
And you're saying I had the bearish outlook.
Um, no, because what goes up must come down.
Kenny.
And that what you tell me.
Uh, yeah.
Do you say that? I mean, I tried telling you that Kenny. And that what you tell me? Ah, yeah.
Do you say that?
I mean, I tried telling you that about good vibes, but you were saying,
uh, you know, going over an E I'll tell you what I was at 13 each cell just last
night, so I actually started looking at these this morning.
I don't think I'm going to buy one, but you know, I gotta say, I mean, it's grown
on me, I thought they were kind mean, it's grown on me.
I thought they were kind of silly looking at first,
but I keep seeing them everywhere.
And people, you know, I mean, you go and look at the floor
and the floor of any project isn't great,
but I keep seeing people post the ones that they really like
all over the timeline.
And yeah, there's, you know, they're growing on me.
There's some good artwork in there, man.
I think the whole collection has done pretty well in what?
Good vibes good vibes club
Yeah, yeah, I guess like especially like the storm tripper looking ones those are really awesome
Yeah, oh wait, didn't you have one of those?
Whatever fucked hard Oh wait, didn't you have one of those? Jesus Christ. Whatever.
Fucked hard.
Um, yeah, I've, I've had a bunch of stuff before.
Fuck those things, brother.
Still ask.
I'm telling you, they're gonna, they're gonna go to zero Kenny.
Sell them.
I, I think, uh, bearish NFTs flip
Good vibes open. See just tweeted a pudgy penguin PFP out with the quote tweet of the igloo announcement that's pinned to the top. That's pretty cool
Yeah, these are gonna rally probably all fucking day here. Oh, yeah, and then I mean look, you know
And then, I mean, look, you want to get them to really rally,
You want to get him to really rally you announced the abstract?
you announce the abstract allocation on top of this hype news,
and these things are back up to 28.
Yeah, I don't see that happening quite yet.
And this was kind of the point I was trying to make earlier.
Like, there's a difference between building out an ecosystem
and actually launching a token.
I think, you know, it's like, like sort of
the uptrend into a bull run is a great time to start building
out an ecosystem.
But like, you really need the, uh, you really need things to
be fucking the vibes need to be immaculate when you launch a
token for it.
Look at this little pudgy.
I knew they had the tall top hats.
I didn't know they had to tall cowboy hats.
Oh, that's cool.
Mine is fucking gay is all get out. Yeah. Well, surprisingly you're the person who bought it so
Hats fill out the
Frame that's the one thing I don't like about the little pudgies
Space at the top. This one sucks.
By the way, cheese, why did you rock a Sugar Town PFP
for like six hours?
I got, saw you last night with a Sugar Town PFP
and you're already back.
It was just like back channels.
We were talking about something about creeps
and PFPs or something like that.
It was, it was, I don't know it was interesting I guess that I agent badge is you know, I just needed to get to work
Yeah needed to put it to work
Yeah, that's really all I'll change I'm gonna change my PMP again
By the way, I think you still have a few minutes if you want to fill out a bracket on abstract.
Bro, I have tried doing that and it will not let me fill out the bracket.
Then you're doing something wrong because I filled out I think five or six brackets
I'm in.
All right, so like watch go over to the stream.
Can you please be a supporter?
I'm watching you right now.
I just left the stream to go look at this bracket website. All right. So let me get it. Just took you down a couple notches.
Everybody just left to go look at this. Yeah. All right. So, uh, I'm you get any
benefit for having a bearish NFT in this? They have like gated ones for bearish
owners only. All right. So I'm going to the app. All right. It doesn't look like
you're going to that to me. It looks like you're looking at this
Magic home down. Here we go
All right, so I'm right here. All right, tell me when you can see my screen
You're on magic eating bro. Just it's sharing the tab. Give it a second. There's a thing
I had the leg of all pools. Yeah that one right there what join a pool?
Yeah, join a pool by the way KP if you were streaming with us you could go to stream yard and there wouldn't be a delay
Yeah, yeah, I know
He's still sitting in his boxers right now, bro, I gotta get ready here in a few minutes
I mean the game literally there's a game starting in 15 minutes
So like if you want to fill out a bracket there do it right now. I
Understand I load that hit the top one loading 20. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm right here. So the bears wouldn't for 250k
Yeah, you see that make a bracket. What are you even doing? Well, my brackets are join a pool
But there's join a pool. There's I think there's a free roll where like randomly
Makes your bracket for you. You can probably do that. But yeah, I'm in these top two
Whoa, there's way too many options there. I don't know what i'm even looking at. All right, Kenny
So i'm right here. So if I want to enter this I hit join now, right?
Yeah, but you want to find the ones with people in it like some of these barely this has nine thousand four hundred Eighty-seven people which one are you looking at the top left one? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the
Join now. Yeah. All right. So watch I'm gonna do this and it doesn't give me
So it brings me to here
I'm honored to lay. Give me a sec
Just hit join pool again, I see the entry fee is free.
Yeah.
I see the joint pool.
And when I do that, it's giving me a wallet error free entry type, single entry,
how the bracket works, you'll be joining with a skill-based bracket.
You can edit your picks until the tournament begins.
Good luck.
All right.
I'm just going to hit.
Yeah.
So watch Kenny.
Are you watching Kenny? Yeah. All right. So it does. I don't think it's
going to show you my wallet itself. Um, so yeah, I'm a share this. I just got your seed
phrase. You're looked at execution reverted for an unknown reason. This is what I've been
getting. Go ahead. Mine just worked. I don't know what's wrong with yours. Yeah. All right. Did you hit approve yours? Didn't have that execution.
I did. It still worked. Hit approve. All right. I'm going to it. See look, execution reverted
to the top right. You see where it says my brackets go over there and see if you're in
And that's this is what I've been getting the whole time with you but just go look look close that close Alright, oh, well, no now I gave it to me exactly motherfucker
Well, I've been doing this since last night and I went to my brackets and nothing was ever there. Whatever dude
Look, look my bracket ID is 22022 there's 10,000 people in this thing
my bracket would be 9,000 in some change so what i need to do edit okay here let's pick these live
uh we got albern uh obviously louisville we're going with uh or I'm gonna pick San Diego to upset. Yes. I'm just gonna join all the free ones
Just to make transactions and farm XP cuz I don't know what the fuck I'm looking at
Anyway, we're going with Yale to upset a and M
Oh, yeah here bro, oh miss oh miss cuz that's my mom's alma mater
Old miss oh miss cuz that's my mom's alma mater
Oh mama sounds like something of
Let's go to Mexico, I'm but I'm picking a perfect bracket in like turbo speed
Alright, Michigan State
alright now Like turbo speed. All right, Michigan State.
All right. Now we're going to get Auburn over Louisville.
We're going to get, yes, San Diego over there.
Ole Miss got that. It's going to lose the Iowa State.
Oh, my God. You're so busted over there.
Now, Michigan's going to be, uh,
New Mexico. Then we're going to get, um, Michigan beaten Iowa.
Then we have, uh, San Diego is doing an Epic run.
They're going to upset Auburn.
All right. Then they're going to upset Michigan.
Now let's go to this other side.
Uh, Duke, uh, Mississippi state over Baylor, Oregon. Uh, we're going to pick
Akron and now we're going to pick AZ, um, BYU Wisconsin. everybody tell me how I'm doing. I think I'm doing fantastic. St. Mary's, because they're riding high.
What conference are they playing?
I don't know, but they just beat fucking they just beat didn't they beat Alabama, Southern
Alabama or some shit right? They just beat. You talking they beat Alabama? No, Southern Alabama or some shit, right?
They just beat. You're talking about Mount St. Mary's?
Yeah.
Those are two different teams.
Same fucking thing, right church, wrong pew.
It's all right.
Let's pick Wisconsin.
Fucking Oregon on that epic run still.
Mississippi State upset and Duke
Then Mississippi State upset in Oregon. Oh, oh cheese what?
Lucanets tweeted pudgy penguins is crypto's Mickey Mouse. We're gonna have to fucking fight over the Mickey Mouse trophy
Just telling you, Alabama and then Alabama.
Kenny, what?
Oh, we're gonna pick,
we're gonna pick San Diego to run this whole thing out.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So where, where, where'd you put Houston?
Oh my God.
I gotta go through here and do all these teams too? Yeah, dude. It's put Houston? Oh my god. I gotta go through here and do all these teams, too
Yeah, dude, it's 64 teams. Oh my god. This is dumb. Okay, cool. This is fucking dumb
All right, we're gonna just go through we're gonna randomly pick and I guarantee I have a better bracket than you do
You want to side by me on that? Yeah, I'll side bet you on that. What do you want to do? Uh
Thousand pingu I'm in me on that. Yeah. I'll side bet you on that. What do you want to do? Uh,
thousand Pango. I'm in thousand Pango that I have a better bracket than you.
Y'all heard it here. Thousand Pango. It's on a recorded space.
Thousand Pango is worth like five bucks, brother. But all right.
I know. I'm going to enjoy. I'm going to enjoy taking that thousand Pango from Kenny. Yeah, I know you will
There we go Clemson over there. We're gonna take Kentucky
Tennessee's gonna end up winning it all anyways
So it doesn't really matter if anybody wants to come up and talk about anything web 3 go ahead and hit the request button
Yeah, this is what we're doing
bro, uh myriad markets
There's a market out there right now that you are, it's like 20% gains on the market.
They're not going to announce a fucking co-conspirator, uh, or anyone else
that killed fucking Kennedy.
That one is still there for the fucking taken.
So if you're not, um, if you're not picking someone or if you're not picking
no, uh, you know, I think you're losing like 20%.
I'm up a 81% right now, by the way, on will cash Patel disclose a list of alleged Epstein
uh, accomplices before the end of April? Uh, I don't know why, but dude, when I got in on that, everybody was saying yes.
Uh, and I was like, hell no, dude.
The fucking government ain't telling on nobody, brother.
They ain't telling on nobody.
Every fucking significant piece of information will still be redacted.
So, yeah, now I'm up big as we draw closer to the end of the month.
And nobody has heard or learned anything more
about the Epstein stuff.
I'm gonna wait till this gets to like 80% no,
and then I'm gonna cheat my points.
We're at 70% no right now.
What's the other one?
I'm up on another one too.
Oh yeah, let's see.
Ukraine-Russia ceasefire, mutual agreement reached by April 15th. I'm barely up on that.
I said yes. I'm hoping. Maybe this is just foolish hopefulness, but I'm hoping that for the sake of the preservation of life and our bags, right? That, you know, hopefully,
a ceasefire can be arranged. What's up, Wills? GM, sir? Hey, good morning, guys. A couple things.
First thing I was gonna say, if you guys don't like brackets, I'd always look for there's some
tournaments where you can just pick teams and you get points for each round they win based off their
seed round. Those are always easier and fun to do. Um, that's my preference, but, uh, I wanted to see if any of you guys had
sent any money to the fight dungeons.
Uh, vault because that thing is growing rapidly.
Last I checked, there's like a 12 million only for 10% of the supply.
Uh, no, I haven't.
Isn't the DJ dungeons it not, what is that? It's not new. I seen
the tweets about it. Can you give us some more info wheels? So it's, it's a Solana based
project. I guess they had a previous project called the heist that did really well, but
it seems to be like a similar type of, uh, Ponzi gaming type play like, uh, like on chain heroes. So they're launching, uh,
the vault poses today. They open it up for 24 hours. It's, it's open fair launch. Um,
TGE will be later, I think, um, tomorrow and then they're meant as a week after. Um, so
they're launching their, their goal, their token called gold. I guess their initial
projects ice did really well off the start. People that's pretty bullish on it seems like
this man that is kind of picking up with these kind of like DeFi games. So yeah, I threw
just a few bucks in there and see how it goes. The larger it gets, the more I'm thinking
may not be the best investment.
But was it sure if any of y'all were looking at it?
And no, I'm not.
I'm not even familiar with it, to tell you the truth.
But no.
Yeah.
Yeah, so just if you're interested in doing that,
trying to get in early on one of these DeFi games
could be something.
But it's on salon
Um, yeah, I didn't put anything in there. I had seen it but didn't didn't put anything in there
Kyle where in the fuck is this tweet at where you said Luca?
It would be on Lucas Twitter page was it a reply or a good place to look for it. I'm looking but
Was it a reply or a tweet we go find it for you and I'll pin it to the top see
Hey wheels, we're don't don't don't put on East
I mean if here he's to the same thing that you're doing for this
It was a fucking Ponzi. So I like ponzi's. What are you talking about Pablo?
The one that wheels brought up
Why what's the problem with it you don't like it
So if it is the same thing that was
What was known as he's where they were pulling money and then? the Don't I? Returns per week. I mean this is this is eventually it all eventually, you know, everybody sells their loomie Pablo that is how
The tweet already pinned it to the top there cheese you didn't even have to scroll I didn't s be shared it as well. I'm just gonna go drop this in Joe's comment this morning
I'm just gonna go drop this in Joe's comment this morning
Let me see let's say what's up dessert while you're doing that what's up, sir GM sir
Yeah, guys, I mean I should say GM. Yeah, you know, how many opportunities did you guys have there with Zeneca?
To what I seen your comment said poker professional at least half a dozen fucking times and you guys can throw a dot-com in there
Zerg you don't pay me to show fucking domains brother. No, I don't know
We got to do is work out a deal on the back end
Motherfuckers love seeing me without about that. I miss you having a creep. I would say, uh, you suck at poker because I didn't see, Oh,
I'm the best poker player in sugar town. Uh,
cause you obviously didn't do very well in the tournament.
Damn. I only had to play one of the games.
I got 12 and one and seven Kenny got 17th or 16th. Oh,
look at you motherfuckers with time. I only got to play one of them. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I only had Kenny. I got 12 and one and seven Kenny got 17th or 16th
Oh look at you motherfuckers with time. I only got to play one of them
Time you are just like I am unemployed. I know you got a job sir. What are you doing now?
What are you talking about building fucking websites all day and night right now?
Okay, like like poker professional calm All kinds of shit, man.
That's including one right there.
You see, thank you for the show.
There you go.
You're welcome.
Uh, I would say you should have, you should have, uh, you should have, you
should have been promoting it a little bit sooner while he was saying poker
professional.com, not 30 minutes after he leaves the fucking
space.
Honestly though, I'm fucking around with you guys.
I know I throw you guys some fucking flowers because I come in a lot of your fucking spaces
and you guys did a fucking great job with that interview and even fucking Kenny Powers,
who's almost never fucking speaking.
He did a great with some of the questions that he had when they weren't about fucking meme coins, but
That was that was really impressive man. You guys look like you knew what the fuck you were doing today
Yeah, I tried not to get too wildly inappropriate
You know holding in my inner demons it hurts I didn't even I can do it going stream
Demons.
Uh, it hurts.
I didn't even smoke on stream.
God damn.
You held a cigarette down that long?
Our in 20 minutes.
That's even more impressive.
It shows me that I can.
Great.
Yeah.
I didn't even brandish the Beretta sitting on my desk.
Cause I know he's from Australia.
I know this motherfucker has come.
He come walking in there earlier before the space and like fucking, uh, call
a duty fucking the camera was live too. walking in there earlier before the space and like fucking Call of Duty fucking.
I don't know if the camera was live, dude.
He's walking in his room like this.
And I'm like, what the fuck is he doing?
Oh, it was hilarious, bro.
I was like, this motherfucker.
But yeah, it was pretty good.
It's good having somebody else to look at rather than me sitting here fucking off the whole goddamn
time.
You know what I voluntarily did last night?
Besides getting that word pretty good.
You know what else I did?
I played a game of duper.
Oh, really?
How's that go for you?
Just to play it.
I lost, but I still just played it, which was pretty wild.
You know, if you go to, is it even like highly promoted anymore?
Dupert?
Uh, no, I mean, people are still not even on the discovery page.
Now, if you go to gaming instead of featured, yeah.
Let's see how far down do you gotta go?
Yeah, I mean, it's not way down there,
but it's definitely, let's see,
one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10.
So it's like 11th on gaming right now
as far as how upvoted it is.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's definitely not people's favorite thing on here.
I mean, I didn't try it.
It's not gonna get you a lot of points, bro.
Well, it did.
I don't know.
I mean, Finn really made it sound a lot like
the stuff that's, you know, more prominent on the site
will garner more XP, right?
That's kind of how I heard.
I mean, I don't know. that was my interpretation of what he said
So, you know, I try to I mean look like right now gigaverse is still the most upvoted thing and I'd still just like every
Day, I just go in and just like go through all my energy just to make sure that I did it
You know and I got way more points this week than I did last week.
It's probably mostly from Gigaverse.
And it's free, like it's one of the ones
that you can play for free.
You don't gotta, you know, you're not risking anything.
Yeah, Stone said, oh look, a wild Kyle appears.
Yeah, I'm sharing, so Myriad Markets,
they have a new market out
Kenny will yay aka Kanye West launch a meme coin by April 20th
I voted no on that one or I bought points. No on that. I don't think he launches anything
He's weren't kind of quiet with that. Kenny Yukon versus Oklahoma. I mean, I, I like Yukon most likely. I mean, it's 61 to 39. Oh, they put them out. Let's
go. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm saying Mississippi state versus Baylor and then Kansas versus Arkansas. Baylor's only at 52. Um, right now
we went to Baylor games a couple of years ago. Uh, my niece's, uh, boyfriend was the
kicker for Baylor. So we got tickets to quite a bit of shit. But yeah, some new ones out there.
2025 Chinese GP.
Who wins that Kenny?
For stopping?
Probably fuck it.
I need to Johnny up here to translate that.
Hamilton.
I'm going to say Erlacher, but it looks like like like like like like Norris, Lekler, Norris, no I'm not having a stroke, I'm okay, and Russell.
So, yeah, I just put a fuck ton of points on no,
on the Yate, no,
cause there's not a lot of points on there anyways, so.
Yeah. So yeah, get over there and, so Yeah, um
Yeah, get over there and get your fucking get your parents on mine
Where we at here, um, yeah, oh Kyle vanished um
Kenny what else what else is going on? No, here comes
Saul you got Saul. No, thanks trying to come up. I gotta fucking go bro. What do you mean? You gotta go
I told you I gotta go meet my boys at the bar. Are you already ready? Did you were you like
getting dressed? I got there in the hour. I'm meeting up? I say it's stay on the space while you're getting ready
You can still might continue shower. My name is not juice, bro
Like listen to us chill just stay on stage bitch. You'll get kicked out whenever you get kicked out
Just mute your fucking tab. We don't want to hear you singing Whitney Houston in the shower
Just me tab. I mean I think so
Yeah, I do too. But here comes your toshi to tell you how fucking shitty you are for bailing on us.
Or he's trying to get up here with that shitty cube exchange.
We'll see.
Make me callous.
Yeah, yeah. Let's do that.
Submit in. Max, what's up bro? Yeah
Max what's up, bro?
What up everybody's going on? How you doing? It's chillin trying to play catch up My mother-in-law passed away a couple days ago. Oh that sucks right here though. Yeah part of life
You know, she's battling cancer and stuff like that. So, you know, yeah. Yeah, that sucks
Don't don't mean a big bring the wives down. Well, you sure as fuck did that's where I was asked on playing catch-up
You know what I mean? So what you know, what are we doing? We're fucking final boss who what do I need to fucking?
What are we paying attention to? What are we?
Attention anything but myriad markets right now
Yeah, we had we had zenith gone at 10 a.m. This morning
And then so yeah, we've been going
for a little bit over two hours now.
Um, and, uh, Kyle is live on abstract stream.
So for anyone that's just coming in, you can go over to the abstract stream.
Yeah.
Why don't you go over to abstract and watch me hold up real quick.
Finn, if you come across this motherfucker, except my shit already.
Fuck.
Uh, Finnns, uh, that's really adopting the moon high strategy of ensuring that he never gets approved, right? Exactly
Things actually on vacation by the way, so he's not accepting anything
Bro you need to just resubmit
So do I think like you go through a different email or no just resubmit. So do I have to like go through a different email address then?
No, just resubmit with the same email, same wallet,
everything and resubmit your application.
Well, the only reason I'm asking is
because when I go to that process where it says
submit application, it takes you to the check status page.
So that's why I was curious, where do I go to resubmit?
Oh, then maybe try a different email, yeah.
Oh, and what if you do check status what you got?
Are you still waiting? Is it? Yeah, so pending so then I'm firing off some tweets, you know
Like it says get you know, I mean get timeline going so you don't mean I'm not doing no fun like that
like that I'm just you know just like okay wait oh you should chill bro the
I'm just you know, okay
You should chill bro
best thing would be if we go on a space together or in a video call there I
stream and you get this dream that you can use and send to Finn that you can
show that you can provide something to absolutely Johnny I appreciate you you're
a man that comes through you know know, everybody else is like, Oh, fuck you. You're gay. Oh, thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Hey, I didn't put those dicks
in your mouth. Max. You made that decision. Hey, says the man who's got a mouthful of
something right now. That's right. You caught me. Hey, he's still gambling. Are you hitting
already like that? You still doing that or?, I'm still streaming over there still doing doing
Doing what I do trying to mix it up, but I'm trying to get XP points and trying to just do a bunch of different stuff
There's so many different apps that we don't know what's giving you XP. What's not?
So that's the fucking that's the problem. So you gotta like, you gotta explore and do stuff.
I think I'm going to start doing more streams at night because like I'm
getting anywhere from 12 to 15 hours a stream in a week, which is quite a fucking bit.
Um, but I'm doing it during spaces.
I don't have time.
I don't have time to like sit here and play games and interact, um, with people
in the chat and it's not really designed for fucking live spaces, but it's still
giving me hours of streaming.
So, okay.
Hey, can you explain to me that I've seen people
play and I haven't had time to like check it out where it looks like
cockroaches are racing and stuff like that. Yeah. Roach racing. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. You're just betting the chart is all you're doing. Okay. So it's the
one second chart of Bitcoin or ETH, depending on what assets you have and
You're just betting it going up and down.
you're just betting it going up and down. You just leveraging it. So in the,
You just leveraging it.
So in the, the, the longer you keep a bet open,
so say if you're betting up and it stays green and green
and green, it gives you a multiplier and your guy runs
just as fast for that length of time with the multiplier.
That may be.
You know what a tip I got for coach race?
The best thing would be when you
open a long or a short and you see it pumps really fast that
you just close it and then your approach runs like hell. And
then it stops again. And then you do the same process all the
time. And if you see that it's going in the opposite direction,
then you just enter the date and you wait until it's over and then again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't ever sit on it for too long.
Um, I seen somebody racing and they got like a negative 280 X
cause they left it, they left it down the whole time and it, yeah, it
was, it was a down, down, down bad day.
Hey, I'm not sure, but I think abstract just added a feature.
I don't remember seeing this button, even when we started the stream, but there's
now next to the like button, there's a P I P button that will make a tiny window.
So I can still watch the stream in the bottom corner while I go around and look
at other stuff that is fucking bad ass.
Yeah, that is bad ass.
Cause now I don't have to leave the stream, uh, to go look at other stuff that is fucking badass. Yeah, that is badass cuz now I don't have to leave the stream
To go look at other stuff on the platform. That's actually a pretty big
addition right there
What are you streaming Kyle?
I'm not streaming shit. I'm just chilling. I know that what you do. You just go on
I thought you got approved to be a streamer. Oh, yeah, I did. I just I mean, this is literally the first time
I've been on stream though. I, you know, we did last week and then I went back to work and this is my first
day off, so I'm now on here with cheese, but we didn't have time this morning to
figure out how to, I don't, I still don't know how to do all the fucking shit.
So, you know, the easiest way to do it.
Look, go to the stream yard link.
I sent you.
All right.
So go to the, where we're sitting at.
Look at the top right corner.
Do you see where it says stream the, my audience?
Oh, you don't know it's cause we don't have it set up yet.
We'll get it all set up after the space and get all that done.
Yeah.
Your content is going to be, are you going to be like streaming?
Like you making folks that fucking work or like what, you know what I mean?
Like, Oh no, I'd get fired for that.
That's all intellectual property that's owned by our customers.
But yeah, I don't know, man.
I mean, I'll just be streaming whatever.
I'll probably play fucking games on abstract.
And I mean, Finn made it pretty clear that predominantly what they would like people to do
is be streaming apps that are on the abstract platform.
And, you know, once we get some of these web 3 games,
if I can figure out how to get my PlayStation
hooked up to all of this too,
I might stream my 3 games.
I was trying to figure out the other day.
So I think you can do PlayStation Mirror.
I was trying to figure out the other day and I was like,
man, how can I get my PlayStation over to abstract?
You might have to download PlayStation Mirror on your PC
and then mirror it through from your PlayStation to your PC
to get the stream on the abstract because I was looking or you can buy a Elgato 4k and it does the work
so you yeah it's the best yeah we'll get there to stream from console to PC
and we'll get there slowly a little bit at a time but I wouldn't mind starting to you know stream and I probably Look not during the day like it'll depend
It would probably be cool to fire up some streams at night and just fuck around and you know
Streams I'm firing up streams right now player. Yeah, let's go
Are you saying that can of sapiens would sponsor a Kyle's?
You know endeavors on stream is that what you're the sponsor of Kyle's you know, endeavors
on stream is it or is that
what you're you hitting that
over there? Well, you know, I
can't hit anything other than I
support Kyle and all of his
endeavors because that's the
but you know, but I no longer I
no longer I no longer send weed
to anybody. So, there's that.
You know, we stopped doing that
in 2016 player. Oh, we stopped
we stopped. We
stopped sending the PO boxes. I
respect him, bro. I respect
you. Yeah, man. We had to level
up. Hey, hey, Kyle. Um I got I
got a suggestion for you. What
you should do for your stream
is um what you should do is uh
play a game and it's like how
many like dodge how many
punches you can from your
Latino wife when she's pissed
Alright guys, my wife is pissed off.
off on you. Alright, guys. My
For me punches cannot dodge today.
wife's pissed off for me.
Punches. Can I dodge today? And
Or you can just take like this.
you know what I mean? Just
Others are doing for a tip of 100 pangu.
You do this for 1000, you get a slap.
For 10,000 you do whatever.
For 10,000 I'll make it wink.
I have to give Jesus kudos. the Goose pumping myself and yeah, Jesus that was really the sentence of the day today
That was bro, it's all it does take it only takes one brand that you buy the
Life you know what it only takes one lottery ticket if you fucking if you're the guy
Hey quit stealing the way to Johnny feels.
All right. He's got the fucking goose.
I sent him and let you know why you're right.
I don't want to fucking smooth over to Johnny's goosebumps, dude.
It's got the goosebumps on him, bro.
Sure, dog. Yeah.
I don't know.
Um, hey, also, too, are you guys fading?
The song everyone's telling me to stop fading abstract, stop fading abstract. the see any of the projects getting any major fund and it seems healthy. Like I think the ecosystem is really healthy.
Like, and I don't think a lot of people are used to that.
They're used to like basically like for manipulation and like weird shit.
But I think like, you know, the proofs in the pudding, like the,
the communities are becoming solid.
And I think final boss who might actually be a moment over there where like,
it brings a lot of momentum as well.
You know, cause once somebody's in the ecosystem, they're generally going to go
buy and trade other things,
right, like you gotta get people
kind of like with their feet wet.
So I think like the feet wetting is happening.
Three, two, one.
Bye everybody.
No, that wouldn't buy everybody.
That's Saul's countdown to where,
how much more time he has left.
Well that used to be you about to rub the fucking face.
No, I know, I know, no, no.
I'm just fucking with Saul.
Hey, hey, no, idiot, I know. I'm just fucking with Saul.
Hey, no, idiot. I make hosts everywhere uncomfortable.
It's okay. It's just part of my vibe. It's part of my brand.
Yeah, Saul, I bought another Kena Sapiens.
So the floor is really getting thin on abstract.
It's thin. It's thin, bro. It's fucking like 4% listed, bro.
Like, let's go.
It was like last week I looked there was 500
pieces were on the floor now it's 250 and I swear it's stressing me all the beautiful
NFTs no matter if it's Kabul or Canisapiens they're gone they're much higher prices there's some rare
there's some rares under 0.1 that I think like are grabs right now if people are actually looking to
like you know join the community and hold the dope piece hey so I think you are grabs right now if people are actually looking to like, you know, join the community and hold a dope piece.
Hey Sal, I think you're right though, because that's the reason why I've kind of like held off from
abstract a little bit is because I'm kind of waiting for the floor to fall out.
But like if you're saying communities are solid and you know what I mean, there's no foot. I think I'm
There's only a few projects that have a floor over point one. Like the floor is not falling out. If anything, it's gonna start to, you know,
everything's kind of starting to go.
Well, you know,
more vibes that come back to NFTs, these are running.
Like the other day, Barish ran up to like point two seven.
Damn, bro.
That's what I was gonna say, yeah.
Bet you could have got into these Barish
for well under point one, just a week or two ago.
Fucking Ryusei.
You'd be up a few acts right now.
Ryusei is the one I'm watching
because I know that they don't reveal until I think the 23rd.
And I bet this floor dips just a little bit more before then.
And they are already under mint price, but I would guess that once, I mean, I don't
know, but they are by very minimal research.
I think the art looks cool.
The animations look cool.
I would bet that once these reveal, they begin to rally again.
So I'm waiting for six, six, nine right now.
Kyle.
Yeah, I know.
So like, uh, you know, I mean, what is today?
Today is the 20th.
So we got three days.
I'll probably, and you know, they could even start to rally in the lead up to
reveal, right, but for right now, I think I I'm gonna wait until at least tomorrow and see how this floor acts and then I might I might trade my way into one of
these pre reveal and then just kind of hang out and see how they act around
reveal again I'm sorry it's Ryu right so if you go to abstract it's let's see
what is it it's the third trending in volume on the day.
It had been the number one trending in volume
for the last several days.
It's just slowly starting to kind of cool off a little bit.
I've said this a bajillion times
and I even have already said this on here
about this project.
I'm not a big fan of these long reveal weights.
And I think this is exactly why.
Like you're seeing people like kind of fade and lose interest a little bit
On these they were really hyped really pumping volume
And then they're already starting to cool off and they haven't even revealed yet
But you know what that creates an opportunity for a cat like me that didn't meant these right to get in
to get in. So, you know, I'm going to try to capitalize on that, I think.
So, you know, I'm gonna try to capitalize on that. I think
OK, I'm going to pay attention more to abstract.
I just felt like because that's there was like only a time frame for me.
I felt like for eight, everybody's all eight.
And then all of a sudden, like the that shit just was like dead.
You know, I'm playing.
So I just don't want to fucking move some money over to abstract.
And the same shit happened like it did with fucking eight.
Well, the difference is, you know, ape chains cool and fun. And there and there's you know projects and communities over there, but it's mostly just art
There's actually a bunch of ecosystems on abstract. There's actual like apps that you can play and shit
I would say like I don't know man like for right now like you know, I've got can of sapiens. I've got caboose
I've got bearish the on chain heroes is definitely like The premier of Ponzi right now on here how long it's gonna keep Ponzi and I don't know I missed the entry on it
so I haven't I haven't bought any of them, but it's definitely I mean like right now the
Genesis heroes are the number one in volume on the day. I know a lot of people are playing this
This captain and company game right now.
That's a popular app that a lot of people are doing.
It's a fun game to play,
but like doing it like now during spaces, impossible.
Like tonight, if you're not busy,
Kyle, I mean, you can get on there and play.
Okay.
And it's a fun game.
I mean, you fucking riding around on a fucking ship,
destroying shit.
Yeah, dude.
I'm gonna get high as fuck tonight
and pretend like I'm captain Jack Sparrow.
Yeah.
My good friend.
Jesus.
My first mate.
Jesus.
Let me be the Barton barmander.
Well, you got to fucking be up late to Johnny.
You go to bed at like fucking three barmander is, but this is 20, 25.
25. Yeah, whatever the fuck you want brother. You can be a fucking kitty cat
Whatever the fuck you want, brother.
You can be a fucking kitty cat.
Well, not in America, but you can still be a kitty cat most places
No, man, these right use that point zero six six nine
I know I'm worried I'm gonna miss the entry on these because this could be the bottom
They're already well under mint, but I'm i don't know i always wait too long who knows
yeah just wait 0.069 0.069 0.069 is the floor on them right now hey um max what i can say you
sorry sol you're on stage but uh what i can say you,
the craziest community on whole
abstract, I feel like is Kabul.
What? Hey, that's a great
community. Show up, bro. Bro, I
got two times more than 4K
views and interactions,
everything with Kabul. has a
good community too but I would
say Barish is the one that
raids the hardest for right now.
Bearish seems like absolutely blow everybody out of my timeline. Everywhere.
Ka you're right, bro.
I, I don't even hold abstract NFTs and they're all over my timeline, dude.
You don't get me wrong.
I have what five bear, uh, Kabus.
I have more Kabus than I have anything, but it's just because I actually like- I really like the fucking art.
It's like probably my favorite art on abstract right now.
The bearish PFPs are growing on me too. I really didn't like these the first time I looked at them, but
I've picked up several that I've seen. I have three of them now, and I really like the ones I have and there's a bunch of them that I don't know they've they've definitely grown on me. Hell there's
a fucking honey zombie one listed for 0.215 right now that's a one of the Pico rare furs
very close to the floor that's kind of interesting. My feeling with Barishishes that I missed the train. Did you just
Oh, wow, dude, there's a honey zombie one for point two, three
with a lizard on its head. That would be pretty on brand for
some fucking lucky creep MF right there.
right there. What about this one right here though that has the
What about this one right here though that has the
it has the fish on its in its mouth and the egg on its head?
I've never seen a double train like that.
Hey, sorry, I don't mean to throw this off real quick, but have you guys seen
like the trades were like sappy seals, pudgy penguins where they have a fish on
their head? Yeah, I did.
I just saw a pudgy penguin like that.
I had to be honest.
All right. I did not know that.
I did not know that.
This is kind of odd, but I did not know that.
That's a real life thing that I guess,
great. Or what is it?
The the whales, the killer whales, they wear salmon on their heads like hats.
And I just read an article about that the other day and I was so thrown out.
Like, what the fuck?
That's a real thing that the whales wear fishes on their heads like hats and I just read an article about that the other day and I was so thrown out like what the fuck that's a real thing that they use whales where our
fishes on their heads like those traits I'm just sorry random thought of the day but that
was just so weird for me.
Huh.
Hmm.
Things you didn't know.
Things you didn't know.
Things you didn't know.
Sort of like dolphins getting high on blowfish, you know, that's a thing. What?
What are those fucking are they called blowfish? What's the fish called that like?
Yeah, yeah, dude
Dolphins will like deliberately fucking ingest that toxin did to like trip
Like use drugs. It's's hilarious they got some shit
they going through too it was zombie were you talking about on the floor for
bear um see I'm not on there now I mean if you go if you get if you just go
down to fur and just like go look through the so the honey zombie is the
rarest fur that's like not in the like sub 20 of them, you know
Because after honey zombie it goes down to cosmic it goes from a hundred and twenty two honey zombies to only like 19
Cosmics. So anyway, if you just like filter by honey zombies, you can take a look at those
Oh, wow, there's a fucking holy shit
There's one with a jester hat. I really want one with a jester hat but
I don't like those sunglasses personally it's a nice strong rarity on that one
now oh I might have to pick up one of these right use right now floor drop
down to 0.65 065 oh wow yeah it did people are jeeting these while we're
talking about that's why I'm just gonna wait
I'm waiting until tomorrow
Really what I want to do because I have a bunch of fucking Kabus is I kind of just want to trade a
Kabu for one of those because I have five of these Kabus and I've been trying to stack the different characters in the Kabus
And I have
What is this one called uh the plushy character I have two of
the plushy characters so I kind of want to get rid of the one plushy um I maybe get into one of these
Ryus hey there is one with a lizard in it have you seen this I wanted to buy this I mean I haven't
Have you seen this? I wanted to buy this.
I mean, I haven't yet because I need to bridge some more eaves,
but I want to buy this.
Yeah, I'm a fan of the lizard head ones.
Yeah, that seems pretty spot on for us.
There is a party in there.
Have you seen that? Like there is a fridge in the belly of the bear
and there is a bear partying with a lizard.
What are you talking about? Kabu now, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, about Kabu.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, I've seen those. Hey, how have I not seen Ryu? This artwork's pretty
dope. I just came across her Twitter. I just met it a couple days ago But yeah, I've really hadn't they weren't really on my radar either
And I just I didn't really even do any research on them until after I saw them doing I mean dude for the last several
Days, they were not number one in volume until just today
So I was looking at it like
640 sales last night on did they yeah, I went into their discord and was looking at the sneak peeks of the art
I think the art's actually pretty cool. Um, and it's a very
I would still classify it as anime like technically but it's a very different style of anime than like an azuki or something
This kind of reminds me of like a Cartoon Network anime
Is it human like or is it at least an animal?
But the anime kind of reminds me of uh, don't know if you watch cartoons, Steven Universe.
You ever seen Steven Universe, Dejani?
Yes, yes, yes.
That's what the art looks like. It's like Steven Universe, kind of.
With like, if Steven Universe had like a re-did by anime artists.
That's the best way to explain it.
Yeah, I mean, looking at the sneak peeks, there's definitely humans.
I think there's like several different variations though.
It looks like there's like spirit ones and ones with horns and shit like that.
But it's yeah, it's just not your typical anime style of art that continues to, you
know, mint out and then fail on the face of a Zuki left and right.
So hopefully it'll hopefully it'll it'll be uh, it'll it'll do well after reveal speaking about anime bro. Did you see the anime beast trailer?
Didn't I think I saw it on the timeline, but I didn't watch it
But I did the anime beasts is fucking there. That's really cool art like your PFP right now. I actually really like that
Well from the hands it looks like they might be 3d bro
Wait what's gonna be 3d the the base what it looks like from that video
Yeah, well, I mean dude like raspies been doing 3d models of these beasts forever like yeah
I wouldn't be surprised at all like that seems to be one of the things that he's really bullish on is like
using, you know, NFTs as in-game avatars or, you know, to make 3D content with
or whatever. So, yeah, definitely cool.
I remember the fucking dude.
What originally got me to buy a beast was I was trying to do a claim
for one of their physicals,
but I didn't realize that the fucking beast that I had had already been claimed I didn't really like know
how it worked I kind of just I saw that really cool beast and I just FOMO'd and
bought it and then realized that the claim on that one had already been done
and I was like fuck all right I don't know I missed the physical. Oh gotcha for the
toy yeah the claims coming up yeah it's coming up pretty soon so they're in production looks pretty good glasses everything looks pretty dope so you know the What is your question to Johnny? Yeah, what you all thinking about on the timeline the whole situation like Ghost is arguing that WebTree is dead or WebTree Gaming
Yeah, WebTree Gaming
I think it's just like a popular rage. I think he's probably trying to get... I didn't even read it. I saw Jonah replied to something from him earlier. I don't know if it was that tweet I think it's just like some typical rage bait I'm farming yaps type shit like you just
want to fucking throw out an opinion that people are gonna fucking want to
argue with and like I don't know man maybe unpopular opinion but yeah he
launched the token which is going to zero and I don't know. He's now trying to get some token to the launch.
DT XRP is something like that. I don't know. I don't know who can spell it out.
Yeah, it's like DD XRBT is an AI token, I think.
Oh boy, the market didn't have enough of those.
Definitely. Hey, why don't you know what somebody should do right now?
They should launch an AI coin. I bet that'd fucking full swing. Bro, nobody's done that yet. What do you think? What are you talking about?
I know dude truly novel ideas here and Chan also responded that she
Don't want any negativity anymore
Yeah, oh now that he said that
He put out a very lengthy tweet this morning.
Yeah, I fucking saw that.
I, you know, be concise.
I can't fucking I'm not reading all that, bro.
Yeah, it was I like, I'm sure that the fucking takes were fucking good,
but I ain't reading all that.
And then my response to Whale yesterday by chance?
What'd you say?
Oh, Whale had some big long fucking post
that I didn't read all of either,
but somebody told me he was like
farting SOMO in the middle of it all.
So I just responded to that part.
I'm not even gonna fucking read it.
I'll just pin it to the top.
He didn't even gonna fucking read it. I'll just pin it to the he didn't even fun. So mo
His what he said about so mo was like zero I agreed with every single thing that whale said in that post yesterday. Oh, she's funny
He said projects like Somo, etc. put the average crypto trader into a sort of angel investor
He said projects like so mo etc put the average
by doing public token rounds before the TGE, only to then delay the TGE multiple times,
which is factually incorrect.
Somo never put out a timeline of when the TGE was going to happen.
So how can you say that there was delays?
I mean, maybe you can speculate that they had plans and delayed, but you don't know that. So that's just a false claim to begin with.
Uh, he says, now you can say, well, it's their fault. They gambled their own
money, but if you look at the way these teams promoted the rounds, you get the
feeling that the average person was tricked here, especially when it comes to
the timing. I don't, she's out of nobody was tricked. Okay, like I get
I get that and know the team didn't put specific dates out, but they've been saying TGE is coming soon for four months
Well, did we only stop playing tap tap trips fucking to like till a week or two ago two weeks ago
Oh, yeah, but when you stop to play
traps like two months ago
Like I think the last boss was like one and a half months ago
He also said and even though 1k USD might not be a lot of money to you
I guess he's implying that the average person invested 1k. I don't know
he said even though 1k USD might not be a lot of money to you for them it might be and
And they would have 2k USD now if they would have just put that money into BTC
Instead of your public angel round how you can read those three paragraphs and not say that he's giving a negative take on
So Mo is very confusing to me Jesus and I would also point out on that third point that not a single person
Who was yoloing fucking more money than they could afford to lose into angel rounds that they did zero research on
Would have bought BTC and sat on their hands for the last year
They would have lost it all during the euphoria of fucking meme coins
Yeah
Fuck anybody that didn't give their money to some or any other angel round that's yet to TG
He would have lost all that money, myself included, but I don't disagree with him that their post
alluded to TG coming soon. Now he may have worded it wrong, just like he did the fucking
the shit with, uh, jerasons, uh, allocation a while back. Uh, but he does have a valid
fucking point is that they keep saying soon, soon, soon,
but they don't give out full comms.
But they distribute comms to,
I'm looking at the chat group here,
a room in Telegram with 75 people in it
that we get updated comms in there
that they don't share with everyone publicly.
And I think that's wrong.
I see those updated comms every time they do them
because you guys let us in on that.
But there's no information there either.
It's not like they're giving you guys information
that they're not giving everybody else.
They're giving you guys fucking 400 words
of maybe soon, maybe.
I understand, but it's still communication.
It's still talking to people.
It's still keeping them updated.
It's not like the Sobo account's been inactive.
I mean, they're still posting content and stuff.
I mean, like, I don't know.
I know that we disagree on this to an extent, Cheese,
but I still think like, you know,
launching a product that's some kind of an app
that's playable is very different than launching a token.
Like you can launch products all the time
and the people that are here either will
or will not engage with those products based
on how good the product is when it comes to a token though you need a market where people are
very interested in buying a token especially specifically a gaming token right like you know
even during the meme cycle a lot of gaming tokens were not being bought up everybody just wanted to
buy memes so you know it's just just my thoughts I pinned my response to whale by the way, I ain't gonna read it
But you guys can read the problem with so Mo and gorilla said it yesterday in his video
With so mo because he did talk about some oh briefly in there between rip and fucking
Gerson a new asshole is
that
Somo raised at such a high FTV that, you know,
reaching a billion market cap is going to be almost incredibly
difficult to do.
So, you know, but they raised that a really high FTV and now
they're having a time.
It's so perfectly that everything is going to get pushed out.
What did, what did Pingu launch at?
Uh, Pingu launched at a, what a four and a half bill FDV.
Exactly.
So, you know, I'm not saying it's not difficult, but it's not fucking
unprecedented, but Pingu didn't do a public raise.
Pingu didn't take nobody's money.
They took money in the background from VCs or whoever's invested in the
background, but they didn't say, hey, here, give us your money.
They didn't do any, any types of pre-seed raises publicly
with anyone.
They didn't want to listen to a bunch of bitches
on the timeline.
Exactly. But I'm just saying, like, so it's, it mean
what people are saying about these projects that have not
delivered. If the fucking SOMO dual game is good enough,
drop it on abstract. There's plenty of people over there ready to spend money and guess what
arguments to be made that you could drop the product without the token right you
can't because they are advertising that the token ties into everything and in
both games I mean sure but you could also use a different like I mean we're
on abstract right now the abstract token hasn't launched, right? Like you can use the native currency on whatever blockchain you're dropping your product on in place of your own token until, you know, the proper moment to launch a token. launch alongside the product. So there, that's maybe not the best approach for them, but it's not, it's not
out of the question for somebody who intends to integrate a token, uh, into
their product to launch their product without the token initially.
Yeah.
I, I don't know, bro.
The game I'm one abstract daily fucking for hours and hours, just like
thousands of other people, and there's very limited things to do.
And I think they can overpower on chain heroes.
If the, if the SOMO duel is good, they would automatically wipe out every TCG
game on the platform.
I think if the game is as good as the fucking visuals look, well, just
probably a fucking game in the coin.
Let the chips fall where they may and when there is this
Macro-bull moment the coin will go up if the game is good. I'm dude. I agree
I mean, I think that the TCG will outperform other TCG is just because it's like a TCG. That's not the whole point, right?
It's like actually an opportunity to farm
Assets for the actual game, which is not a decision.
Yeah, and you're betting on different decks.
I mean, you're doing all kinds of different shit.
Jonah, what is your take on this?
On what, Sumo?
Which one?
Just any project right now that says their product is ready,
they're ready to launch token,
they're just waiting on better conditions.
Like, I mean, would you wanna would you want to get caught in the mix
of everybody dropping at once? Or do you just go ahead and drop now? I mean,
I think it's a case by case, but it depends on your cash reserves. And that's why they're
waiting. But like, the reality is, is it's not going to get better to launch later. Like,
I think now is probably the better time to launch because you may get clemency from the United States government because
If you launch prior to whatever the rules are there's probably a forgiveness clause
So you get to do whatever ski scummy game you want to do now and by July or August when rules are in place
Or if it's next year
You'll try to everything and then when it's in cle see period, you'll readjust to the corporate structure.
Yeah. Yeah.
I agree.
Kevin D God said, just when the fuck was that?
That message.
Kevin D God said something about, where's it at?
He said 90% of NFT projects should shut down today.
You're burning capital time and community goodwill building
his project or what with
Times the kind of thing is to stop. Well, I mean D God didn't fucking even do anything now
I mean like I mean if they shut down D God's like I back his statement, you know, but like
I mean, if they shut down D gods, like I back his statement, you know, but like,
I don't know.
That's kind of shut down.
It's it's, it's just,
yeah, I'll ask them.
I'll ask them in the comments.
What about the guys?
I mean, I'm sure somebody already did that blocked by Kevin D.
God, I can't wait.
Not like Kevin and I like Frank, but I think that's like, that's like, they're a clear
instance of like, um, tried hard, tried harder and, um, didn't deliver shit literally.
Let's see what he says.
And she's to your, to your point about like, are you worried about like a fucking bajillion
things launching all at once?
Like dude, if the, if the market wants that kind of a product, it's not going to matter how many of those launching all at once. Like dude, if the market wants that kind of a product,
it's not gonna matter how many of those products launch at once.
It's gonna matter what are the better products.
Zeneca doesn't think that there's gonna be a big rush
like we had last cycle and not on either.
Well, no, there probably won't be
because it's not just gonna be any old fucking random
PFP bullshit art that's gonna mint out and you know like
All I'm saying is like fucking a month or two ago
We were in the middle of a meme coin hype cycle and there was like fucking two hundred thousand tokens a day
Yeah, minting out it didn't matter that a bajillion of them are not minting out, but you know bonding
You know it didn't matter that there was a bunch of them
There's like the fact that there was two hundred thousand didn't matter that there was a bunch of them. Like the fact that there
was 200,000 didn't keep any of them from bonding.
There's the thing that goes on with that, like this next cycle and NFTs will have to
be accounted for is like, a lot of people were fooled once and they won't be fooled
again.
Yeah, but that's the people that are here. You're not talking about new money.
No, I'm talking about new money. They saw it from the outside. They saw us get fooled
and they're going to learn from our mistakes. So like, like you have a much, I'm talking about new money. They saw it from the outside They saw us get fooled and they're gonna learn from our mistakes So like like you have a much what I'm saying is you have a much more educated market this time
Just on a whole whether you believe that or not like it is the truth is like this next cycle people will be educated
There will be much less room for speculation on a lot of levels
So speculation is what drove the prices so high last time. It'll be really hard. FOMO's a motherfucker, Saul, it doesn't matter.
Especially people that aren't used to this space
and used to buying shit,
they're gonna fucking come in and buy everything that's.
But I think things are more priced in now is my point.
Like the investments are spoken for prior.
People have a plan to go to a token launch.
The roadmap is there now. So it's
like, it's like the chance for unicorns is going to be much,
much less in, I think in relative nature to like, like
you saw like four or five unicorns last cycle, you might
see one next cycle is how I'm seeing it. Yeah.
I mean, this cycle,
wrong cycle, bro. What does the next we're into the next having you
were on the way.
Yeah, well, we are still in a cycle. What's your take on
founders who promise a lot of big air drops and then you get
airdrop like buying a Big Mac?
Are you mean like the $40 that I got for holding two mirrors for my agent. Yeah
Myself but say it it's still I gotta remind you guys that you know, I agent is not the
Jira token so, you know, it is
Today that Jira token. So, you know, it is what we got. We got an even said that Post today that
Mistakes he literally said that mistakes were made. He had he known and I control. Yeah
Well, no, he said like he he handed off TGE responsibilities to the team
And thought everything was good. He said it in a private telegram call
there was like 18 of us in a telegram call.
And he said in that call,
had I known that Mexie was the launch pad partner,
I would have shut that down immediately.
Yeah, but how do you not know that?
He obviously fucking didn't.
Here's the big, like it's not the big JIRA token,
but this was like the airdrop that was gonna set the tone
For redacted to actually launch like I don't
Redacted was supposed to launch then agent was supposed to launch after that at one point But that's you know those plans change and when those plans changed
I was I was looking I was looking at my bag. There's no I ordered it.
I'm still muting. I ordered a size and there's only a small in here.
Can you please do this for me?
OK, now I get the joke.
Yeah, I got it.
But how how how are we supposed to claim that airdrop?
I know we had a airdrop.
You didn't have to claim it.
It just got it was an actual airdrop. It got sent to your airdrop you didn't have to claim it it just got it was an
actual airdrop it got sent to your base wallet i-agent is actually on base I'm surprised you
didn't yeah base maxi you know what I mean hey and also too I was I was afraid of that base
uh man I didn't meant it because I thought it was a scam uh that gyruss on skin or whatever that was
so I was afraid was that real or no I don no? I don't know anything about that. It sounds like it might have been a scam.
If you go to Jericho, a Jira Holder announcements over like some kind of Jira skins.
Well, then that's real if it's in the.
All right.
A full disclosure. I'm holding 12 Jira son. So yeah,
I mean, I'm holding two, you know, I, you know, I like, I like them.
I look, I like Shannon, the community and the whole idea of like, Creating a bunch
of different products and having them all like kind of governed by one token.
That's great.
It's just, like, if I'm going to be totally honest, I'm not seeing any of
these products really pop off yet.
Like I don't, I don't see some mass adoption of any of these products yet.
And then the iAgent thing just... it definitely didn't launch very well. So, we'll see. We'll
see what happens.
She's just got a phone call.
Yeah, I believe they will fight for it, that it does right before the Reducted launch.
Yep, yep, yep. We'll see how it goes, man. I'm gonna hold them. I mean, look, the floor's already down on the Jira's for the moment what is it like 0.3 something I'm going to
look right now it's 0.33 oh yeah it's 60% or 70% down since one or two months
since he ever announced the token launch of their ducted well look I also managed
to trade these kind of accidentally kind of well too.
Because I had three of them at one point and I sold two of them for pretty good prices.
I think I got one of them off at like .8, like above .8.
And then I bought back in later after the floor dipped back down again.
So that's why I'm back to having two.
So, you know, I would why I'm back to having two.
Um, so, you know, I would say I'm like break even. I could probably sell both of my Jiro's right now for what I got them for pretty easily.
Uh, but I'm just, I'm going to hold them.
I'm going to hold them and see what happens.
You know, I, you know, I, I'd like to think that this redacted thing is going to be.
Uh, much more central point of focus for Shan than
iAgent clearly was because it is a separate team like iAgent was a
separate team it's just just happens to also be a PG product. I agree with you
Kyle. I also... hey did you guys hear about a Pledge of Penguins this morning?
Did you guys already talk about that?
Yeah, the ETF thing. I mean they're just filing for any if it's not like no TF got approved, but yeah, it's still pretty cool
It's it's you know what I mean. It's setting things in motion. So that's pretty dope
And I definitely created a big fucking pump on pudgies and local. Oh, you know what? I never went and looked at uh,
The pingu price. Yeah, dude it fucking what the fuck
Holy shit, dude. They fucking made that announcement and Pingu went from 600 mil
668 mil in a couple minutes worth of candles. It's back at
613 mil now so everybody sold off the pump you fucking
Bitches you but uh Yeah uh yeah dude I should have
done the same thing oh well such as life. They got above 10 ETH there for a minute yep yep yep
they're back at 9.87 right now so you got people selling off that pump as well uh but you know, look, it was bullish news, but it's also not anything solid yet, right? Like an ETF
for a major is like one thing, an ETF for a meme coin is another, and then you add in NFTs. It's
like, you know, are we in that bullish of a administration to where we think like a meme coin slash NFT ETF is going to get approved.
You know, you could make arguments either way. I don't know.
If you had an extra 10 ETH, would you buy a Pudgy?
If I had an extra 10 ETH, I don't need to sell any of my bags that I have right now.
Yeah, if you just sent me 10 ETH right now, I that's probably exactly what I would buy would be a pudgy. Yeah, I
Think it's a good move. Yeah, I wouldn't rotate out of the bags that I have to get a pudgy. I mean I could I
Could scrape together 10 eith if I just cheated everything right now pretty easily but you know
I like my bags.
But yeah, if I just had, if I just suddenly had 10 ETH,
yeah, I would buy a Pudgy right now.
Before abstract launch and, you know,
for the extra XP that I would get every week and all that shit.
Yeah, fuck yeah.
If I just had 10 ETH right now, I'd buy this,
I'd buy this Pudgy right here, the second one from the floor
with the fucking star glasses and the the camo helmet
I like that. Oh, hey, hey, Jonah still in here one with an eye patch. I like a few of these. No, I'm not
Okay. Hey Jonah quick question
For you being gaming and stuff like that how you feel about pudgies take on a gaming
Asset, you know what I mean from their point of view
Like what do you think then they should come at it differently? You think they're doing right or What the current gaming stuff you do you mean from abstract or the pudgy side?
The whole thing their whole you don't I mean the whole thing that they got going
Do you think that they can go at it a little different or you think that they're on par?
I think abstract is making the right move so far when it comes to acquiring apps and doing like super fast gamma games
I think there's a much bigger market for being the steam of a casino
versus the steam of like large scale gaming.
It makes a lot of sense and there's a lot of money in it.
It's just, you have to really make games really quickly.
So like the margins are low, but if you do it fast enough,
you have a higher return over time
and the cost of managing it is lower.
I think the one thing they get wrong is DeFi.
I think their desire to be anti-civil or civil resistant
is great for customers in early days,
but bad for the network effects.
Because the sad reality of crypto
is you need enough farmers to join your network
to create enough on-chain liquidity
to attract more institutional apps
because the institutional apps don't care if it's a civil
or if it's a real person.
So the thing that's making them different
is also the thing that will hold them back
on a DeFi standpoint.
But everything else I'm quite pleased with to be honest.
I think they need to figure out content a little better
for like each creator,
but the commercial they made internally
and like the way they made internally and like
the way they're doing their own marketing is awesome.
Are you streaming or anything like that or are you just sitting on the side?
Yeah yeah I stream.
I'm gonna stream Assassin's Creed Woke Warfare tonight.
Okay.
Dude that's gonna be fucking that game looks so good.
I can't wait to be a's Creed game in Japan.
Yeah, there was a lot of controversy over that. Of, you know, pretty funny.
You hear about that in the game, I guess.
You can't go to the holy buildings and fuck them up or anything like that.
In the game, they want to like.
Did they? Did they change?
Yeah, they changed it.
Yeah, they had to because the Japanese prime minister said,
you're a disgrace to our country. And they like oh fuck we got this is not good damn
I didn't I didn't catch that you really said that yeah the Japanese Prime
Minister called into an investigation into cultural like attack against Japan
and Ubisoft was like oh fuck no Ubisoft is fucked by the way they're coming
I remember I remember shooting up an entire fucking airport in Call of Duty back then.
There's a difference. It'd be like playing on the fucking World Trade Center Memorial Center,
right? Correct. Yeah, it'd be like there's a difference between an atrocity and a religious
affront. So if you were to blow up a building, right?
Well that's not a religious significance or like cultural defining moment. I guess World
Trade Center would be one for sure for America. But let's say you were in Rome and you were
like trying to create an atrocity in the Vatican. Well you could argue like that's a cultural affront, right?
You're in the house of God.
For the Japanese.
Yeah, I mean, but to look at like God of War,
you literally killed all of the gods of multiple religions
through the course of that franchise.
Look, I agree with you, but it's also like,
those, that Omni God, you know,
religious belief has died, right?
Like, I don't know how many people believe in Zeus and, you know, right? Like versus, I don't know how many people believe in Zeus and you know right like versus I don't know it's all I might be
a pagan you don't know me I agree with you I like you know I agree with you I
mean I think you could make the argument that doom is an affront to Satanist I
agree with you right I'm just saying that would be that actually that would be my court case actually that'd be my well
yeah you thought about this huh Jonah yeah that'd be really funny that actually would be a oh my god
they need to hire me at Bethesda the new doom marketing campaign is they fake a protest of
satanist saying that doom is canceling their culture it would get so many views and people it's so funny that
people would actually play the fucking game being like yeah fuck Satanist
holy shit I'm a genius that's pretty good I gotta say that is they announced
that past this morning that um they patched that so you can no longer
great now I can't create religious atrocities off but yeah I returned my They announced that past this morning that um, they patched that so you can no longer
Great now. No, I can't create religious atrocities off. But yeah return my game
Yeah, I mean look I just I don't know games are games dude like it's
Just upset big I think people are just upset because you play as a gay black samurai in Japan. Like I think that's all it is.
Yeah, I saw one article and you know some of the stuff I can't even tell if it's like deliberately
retarded but I saw one big long-form post bitching about how like it's like racist or something because you're running around killing Japanese people exclusively and it's like but it's based in feudal Japan like what
Is this supposed to be like some Google AI shit where like it's all inclusive
Wasn't there like a whole like thing they had a black samurai to or something like that
There's like a whole like like story. There is like a leg
Want to make roots the game now. I wanna make roots the game now.
Just you can run around like Kujo Tente.
Oh my god.
Like honestly I'm bored.
It's just fucked up.
It's fucked up dude.
You should go have fun and basically with freedom of speech create whatever you want.
And not be completely throttled by the world for it.
People are so soft. By the way I'm fun just announced their own decks
Come pump swap what kill that's interesting
Yeah, they're taking all that money they made and they're just trying to take out every competitor. You know, it's funny though
Yeah, well, they sure it's funny. I know they sure look that kind of negates
Everybody's bitching about how they just like fucking extracted all this value and didn't reinvest any of it into the space right like if
They actually build out a broader platform with the with the with the profits that they made, you know good for them
I think that's awesome. I wasn't mad at him for making all the money and fucking off to begin with but if they're not fucking off
And even better. I don't know why
New ways to make money that's all which is fine
Yeah
Yeah, we're a capital society, right? That's like the idea. Yeah, absolutely
I mean people get really sensitive about the idea that they like extracted some money or something
But it's like dude you guys gave him the money. They built a product and like everybody chose to use it like I
Whatever dude good game, you know
Anyway, what's up Juice?
What's up? Just got to the gym.
Just chiming in now.
Little late, I know.
You guys were talking about Assassin's Creed before?
Yeah.
Man, I played the shit out of those games.
And I liked the original ones a lot.
I spent a lot of time playing those games.
But yeah, this new one is just kind of
lots of negativity on the timeline.
I engaged with one post and now I don't stop getting this Assassin's Creed shit.
And, uh, I don't know if it's paid FUD, man.
I mean, some of it seems like paid FUD at this point,
but I know that Japanese people aren't very happy with the way things have gone.
No, not at all.
Yeah, I think it's probably going to flop.
You think so?
Yeah, I don't think the Japanese have that much.
Well, like really, I think fucking the broader world will still play the game
well, because there's such a huge following in Assassin's Creed, bro.
That game was so sick when it first came out like broke.
They just sort of lost the plot, though.
I mean, over the last couple of games, they just slowly lost the plot.
I definitely played the first few of them, but they like, dude,
they just started feeling very repetitive.
It was like the same exact game mechanics, just a different like fucking city or whatever.
This is actually the first one in probably the last.
I don't
know how many of them have there been.
I've probably skipped the last four or five, maybe six assassins creed titles,
but I'm actually kind of interested in games like that though, that we still
fucking play the shit out of like grant that father has had the same mechanics
like time after time, we don't fucking complain about that mechanics, bro.
Like there's so many games I've had the same shit.
Yeah, but the grand theft auto game does get like way better with each iteration
And there's a long time frame between each title being released
Whereas like Assassin's Creed was putting out like an almost identical game like every year or two there for quite a while
I don't know. I just I was like, but But you're right, Max. I mean, I keep playing
Fortnite and it barely changes. I've been playing that for fucking ever and it barely, you know,
it just slowly morphs. It doesn't like change dramatically at any given point.
But that's what I'm saying. There's that same following like us that are playing our games
that, you know, play Assassin's Creed. I don't think it's going to flop. I think they have a
big commercial following, you know, I
Think the graphics look really good
Yeah, yeah, and if I'm correct, isn't there two different like playable characters?
There's like a some kind of like shinobi type
Muffucka some lesbian girl or you can play as the gay black guy. Oh
Wow Yeah, I didn't know both the characters had their pronouns in their
bio. Now I'm kind of fucking bearish again. Oh yeah, dude. This is, this is like what's
really interesting about the South scree shadows is this the best DEI game made in years. So
if they can't succeed with this, then it goes full to the other side and every game is going
to have big kit shippers with guns. So, So okay well in that case dude, FUD Assassin's Creed brother, that's the market I'm looking to
get into. That's what's gonna happen. It's the final DEI game with major backing and if it fails,
which it probably will by sales estimates, then it's gonna be just like we're gonna get
Mad Max level shit like it's gonna be crazy.
Another thing is, is the original Assassin's Creed games, they felt like a movie, you know?
Like the voice actors and all the shit, all the cutscenes, like, it really felt like you
were immersed in, you know, the OG history and all the bullshit, whatever.
And this new one, like, apparently they're using a lot of, like, text to speech, maybe
using AI or whatever, so it's just kind of missing that original Assassin's Creed component, I feel.
But I haven't played it yet.
It's only based off what I've been seeing on the timeline and some gameplay I've seen.
Oh, speaking about that, do you guys think that gameplay is going to go to shit with
the AI being more implemented into game development?
AI has been in game development since like Dark Souls 1.
I don't know, this shit's way overhyped.
It's just AI will get better,
and I think that'll make things more fun.
If anything, it'll be great because,
shit, there was like a game last year on Steam that went super viral.
It was four player co-op and you just like tried to fetch,
you know, tried to fetch assets and try not to get killed.
Lethal Company. player co-op and you just like tried to fetch, you know, try to fetch assets and try not to get killed.
Lethal company.
And now there's a studio making like a way cooler version
of Lethal Company, which is like a space game.
And for to make really good co-op games, you need better AI.
So I think it's great.
I'm very bullish on better AI in games.
Makes everything more immersive.
That's interesting.
I was just curious on that. You know what I mean?
If, if people are just going to take the shortcut, you know,
I'll hope, uh, I just had AI.
I mean, it's like, dude, when it comes to like, I don't like
shortcut is one way to put it, but like AI is just a tool.
It depends on how you use it and how, how well the final product comes out.
Like,
Oh yeah.
Well, yeah, like I don't, there's a lot of places to that is just stupid to use
because it's not cost effective like like there's a lot of places where it's
just better to use scripts because they're cost effective and you can be
sure of them and they're not just going to come up with random ass inputs i think
like a lot of people are are they they want they want a gi today and they expect
like current llms and AI systems to be a GI
Or their soul this close to a GI
I think like it's actually like a hindrance to people's productivity and their ideas of what AI is
Yeah, he's been around for so fucking long. I mean, I was beating people in chess in the 90s, you know
You know, it's like it's not a brand new thing. I think just like the way it's
It's like it's not a brand new thing. I think just the way it's
patterned. Fuck you.
Two, one.
You know, you just let you just let Jonah talk.
Let me come back here.
I went 25,000 more followers.
Won't be good, bro.
Just go get on a Mars lap.
You'll get it.
She's just disappeared for 20 minutes and we've got more people watching.
And I haven't said anything.
There's 53 people watching your stream right now.
Really? Oh my gosh. I should leave. I made two takes.
Jesus, you got like, what is all this message?
Is someone creeps will rip the games? Oh yeah. Looking at all this.
Oh wow. Yeah. Ryan sent 0.0025 Ethan tips.
Farmers leave the network.
Just need cheese to leave his own show.
That's fucked up, number two, boys.
God damn.
Oh wow.
No, bro, my mom, my sister, fucking,
my sister, I guess, was taking my mom
to a doctor's appointment.
I never knew anything about it.
And she, like, texted me and was like, come outside. And I came outside and my mom to a doctor's appointment. I never knew anything about it and she like text me and like
come outside and I came outside and my mom was there so I haven't seen her in a few weeks.
Oh right on. Oh you got to see your mom right on. Yeah yeah she had been in the hospital for about
three months. Oh it's hard to hear about that. I'm glad that you were able to see her bro. Yeah no
it ain't nothing fucking life she had knee replacement but she's um she's just fucking
70 something years old so
Not as easy to recover. What have I missed? What are we talking about here? What time is it 105? We still got some time we were talking about some games and some AI
applications and you know just more broadly how
Much of a gay douchebag you are, you know, that's that's basically
That's basically what we got.
Give or give or give.
I think PumpFund's new Dex is going to be paying developers fees the same way that maybe Meteora has been doing it.
So maybe there might be more of an incentive to keep the project going with this new platform.
I think you've been paying attention. Let's bring up a rando here.
Hey Kyle, keep an eye on Ryu.064.
Nice. Like I said, I'm gonna wait till I'm
basically planning on waiting. Yeah, I'm gonna get a ride you. I'm feeling the art. I don't think
you will Max. You sound like Kenny. Say I won't. Jesus. Say I won't. You won't. Okay. Okay, bitch.
I'll see you tomorrow. I'm having a ride. Damn. What is tomorrow? Friday? Yeah. Tomorrow. Friday.
Oh yeah. I guess we'll have a space. Wow. Um, yeah. Point. Oh, six four. No, not bad juice. What are you doing up here?
Yeah. He probably walked into the gym. Yeah. He just left.
Let's say what's up to Nassar. Oh, geez. Here's up.
The seer. There's no fucking Z in that.
Did I not sit? Nasser oh jeez here's up The seer there's no fucking Z in that That I'm not silly. No sir not they're definitely
Thanks, man, thanks man, I'm just here for the phone man. I saw you guys speaking. I was like, oh what the hell just hope it man
nice you guys speaking I was like oh what the hell just help it man nice abstract or no no no I won't say
I'm on abstract I've heard of it but you know I'm just here man I'm on to you and Solana for at the
moment so I'm looking to expand my things I do on blockchain and get to know more about what I think
so yeah hey before we get forward bro how do we pronounce your name we gotta we gotta
settle that debate real quick
the full the full name is nasa din
but you can call it nasa what did I say what did I say who is
here knowing how to spell out I don't know what to Johnny hold on I'll be right back again
fuck baby when I come back we'll have like 90 people I'll be back
I think so the General wealth is what we're doing, bro. General wealth. So what, like for me now that I've never been into abstract,
and so all NFTs really say I can get into
as a beginner into abstract, you know?
Let me just get to my hands first time on the abstract chain.
All NFTs really say I should get into
what communities really say I should join.
What are you, like, what would you be interested in?
Are you looking for just like a PFP slash community type vibe or like an ecosystem type?
Let's say ecosystem. PFP is also nice, you know, you can use it for identity, then also maybe gaming, I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, OnChain Heroes is definitely like the premier gaming eco type thing.
I mean, that's number one in volume even right now.
That's been going for a little while though, so it's possible that it's a late entry on that.
I'm not sure.
Barish seems to be like the PFP shit that like really goes the hardest with the most like active community, the loudest community.
I like this Ryu stuff.
That's what we were talking about a second ago.
I'm literally just going down through the top one, two, three.
Yeah, man.
Kabu, kabu, kabu, kabu.
Yeah, I like kabu too.
Kabu is definitely my favorite art on abstract right now.
Buy quite a lot.
I mean, I like also kind of sapiens, but
yeah, caboos like more like my wife said to me that she will print me out one of my caboos
and put it on the wall.
So you know, but when I have my wife, she says my BFB is beautiful.
I mean, she loves also my creeps, but she said it's much looking much better than my creeps, Kabus.
Damn, you didn't have to fud fudging the creeps are there brother.
No, I'm not fudding it. I'm just talking about.
My wife said my creeps looks like shit, she likes my Kabu better. That's what we heard.
She vibes more with my Kabul better. That's what we heard She vied more with my couple
Hey Kyle, we got a hook up your background bro. We see his dirty chonies in the background, bro
Yeah, I don't know. I mean my desk is in my living room
I don't know if I really want to try to shoehorn all my shit into some back room and like decorated and a bunch
Of web 3 stuff. I mean don't get me wrong. Jesus's backdrop is pretty cool.
Hey, here's the easy one that we learned in theater class.
All you have to do is put it on like a,
like a roller backdrop.
Does that make sense?
There's something that you can roll real quick.
Stones is trying to get me to reveal
one of my bearish NFTs right now.
Right now?
Right now.
I mean, you do have a lot of people watching.
You got 54 viewers and you're, yeah, dude, we can do that.
Yeah.
Hey, go away.
Jesus.
Come back and you'll come back to another, uh, two more people.
Tell these MFers to fucking tip you.
Do it.
No, I'm not.
I don't do that.
It's to me.
That is so fucking like cringe.
5,000 Pingu telling people to tip you like when I see these motherfuckers
and they put these like doing this for pink. I just just rubs me the wrong way. If you're
fucking want to tip tip if not fucking oh well I don't want to rub you the wrong way
with my tip
Hey tip tip for tip boys tip tips. Um, I don't even know where to go to do the reveal
Hey watch That's pretty cool, bro
because you guys are talking and I'm hearing you guys on on
Twitter and it looks like I'm watching an old-school kung fu movie because you guys the lips are moving but then you guys and I hear
the audio
Yeah, it's definitely a delay stone said he just bought the honey zombie in support of the reveal Oh nice, which one I got a good look and see which one just sold. Oh
No, have you seen I see I saw Logan Ross
Posting that on chain heroes got a badge for everyone who nice waited in the first season
To nice stones nice fucking honey zombie
What do you mean got what badge
on chain heroes
Got what badge is there a new badge out?
But a badge on abstract and badge on abstract. Oh good. So I did the first season I only
Staked and played for like fucking eight hours, but does that count?
No, I gotta do I'm not sure. Oh, I still have the witty badge just claimed
What I
Do not have a new badge available, yeah, there's no new badge available. I do know that
I'm trying to find the
I'm trying to find the
I'm trying to find the fucking website real quick for bear deal
to their official links to see what you even have to do.
And their official links to see what you even have to do
I'm bearish.af.
Yeah, totally sent me the thing a while back, but I never did anything with it.
Let me see here.
What's that?
This is a cool bear that stones got.
Yeah, it is.
Oh, look, he just tweeted it too.
Here, I'll pin this to the top.
Everybody show some love.
But I know Carlos said,
I know Carlos said for me, he wanted to do,
see, what the fuck?
It's, oh, it's a pop-up block.
Always allow.
I know Carlos said he wanted to do an event around it.
But I mean, it would still leave me another one.
I think there's still two one-of-ones, right?
Cause there's-
In the Bearish collection?
Yeah.
Oh dude, I never even thought to look at one-of-ones.
They haven't been revealed yet or? I think think I think there's only eight listed right now
I don't know if there's any one of ones that are not revealed
Oh general Wiggs said gold still hasn't been revealed. Oh shit cheese is what he said
So oh, so I'm right here so I can crack the ice right here.
Let me look at your stream.
Okay.
Oh yeah.
Hold on.
I want to see this too.
Yeah.
Let me get back to the stream here.
Do I crack the ice?
Perfect on the name.
Boss love that.
Two of them, huh?
Yeah.
I have two of them.
Non-revealed 3335.
I think that's a good number.
Yeah.
That one seems like it could end up being a gold
Stones
33 33, you know or three three three five it looks go crack it dude. Let's fucking get it crack
Come on man, you got two of them it's not like you're revealing your hoes, you're not blowing your Like, Oh,
come on man. You got two of them.
It's not like you're revealing your,
you're not blowing your whole world.
Is anybody going to even clip this or not?
Like,
you can clip it.
I know, but you other people,
the whole point in that is for other people to create clips.
And then when you clip it, you get XP.
Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's create a clip. I see it right here and there's like a time right there. It says start 4618 and
time 40, which I don't know what any of the fucking time in is. Yeah, neither do I. I'm
trying to figure that out. Um, but crack the ice. Which one do I do?
Stone said he'll clip it.
Um, 33, three, three, five or three, four, eight, nine.
Which one am I cracking?
Oh, I get the badge thing now.
Okay.
It was only for people that participated in season one. It must've just showed up.
Okay.
Um, dude, uh, what's the options?
Three, four, eight, nine, or three, three, three.
Dude, I don't know, dog, flip a coin.
Fucking.
Fuck. All right, let's go with this one.
Yeah, let's go.
Ready to crack the ice.
You're cracking bearish number three, three, three, five.
Going to stream yard,
so I don't gotta fucking watch on a delay.
Once you have confirmed, uh, the NFT is opened on chain
canceling will not reverse this.
Um, all right, fuck it.
Here we go.
We're going to go.
It was.
Check wallet.
We got
motherfuck me run
As he lights a cigarette just in case anybody did want to clip this it'd be appropriate if
Come on give me something good, bro! Oh, this is cool!
Give me something good!
What, you gotta click the ice or something?
I think so.
Wait, it's just doing it slowly?
No, I gotta keep clicking it.
Okay.
Give me something good!
Oh, this is fun!
This is a fun little experience that they've made.
Give me something good!
Oh my god, how many times times I gotta crack this bitch?
Please up.
Roll 101.
I need to make up for the fucking other bowl, baby.
Hit it.
It's not going to be a 101.
Daddy needs a new one.
Oh, it's got a crown.
Now.
That's a nice one, dude.
The button eyes.
The button eyes is a sought-after trade.
And it's got a great home together real nice too. That's a good looking. That's a sweet one
Bro magic eat and see those traits on that one. Yeah, damn. That's a good-looking one. That one's pretty dope
Gotta pfp that bro. That one's pretty dope. I like did you promise this another pfp change today?
That's a fire that's a fire asset
Yeah, dude.
If you're PFP, I'll PFP a bearish today.
Oh yeah.
I like that.
I don't even have a badge.
It hasn't updated yet on Magic Eden.
Oh, it hasn't?
Oh, it's not even given the artwork.
It's on Magic Eden now.
Okay.
The crown is a 0.8%.
But nice is a 1% about 75 puffer jacket. There's 41 of those point nine red background
There's five hundred seventy six of those twelve percent polar
513 11 percent and standard face
522 at 11 percent. So that's a pretty nice
Let's see if there's a ranking on this yet, do 3,285
there's a ranking on this yet. Do 3285.
All right, should I pfp? Um, there we go. Yeah, that one's
pretty dope. I like it. Um, I don't mind it.
That's how many how many other was happy revealed.
I still have one more to reveal. But I don't know if I'm gonna
brutal said, I still have one more to reveal, but I don't know if I'm gonna Brutus said wait for the wait for the event
Yeah, I can always go buy more though. Um, that's be nice
That one's Jesus don't have patience. You don't have patience. I don't have patience, bro
Now that I've revealed one it's like you need to sit on that last cube bro. No, I'm not cracking
Yeah, I would sit on it. I'd say like seriously don't open that thing ever. Yes. Yeah, dude. I like the next one
That's when you that's when you sell it on revealed one, you know advice a lot
But I'm giving you advice here. Like I'm actually giving you advice like don't crack that thing ever
I don't give advice but when I do I do is good. Like don't crack that thing ever. I don't give advice, but when I do,
I do is good and you should not crack that thing.
Bearish is going higher for a long time.
They're not gonna stop building.
I definitely agree with what's all said here.
You should probably just hold that thing.
Cause like in that form, it's more valuable
than if you crack it.
Like, straight up.
There's not a one-on-one in there, I'm just telling you.
And then you're gonna crack it and it's not gonna be as valuable as if there was like
It's a different Schrodinger's cap for somebody else. That's what makes it. That's what makes it. It's so expensive. Is that
Crack it what if it's a gold one, bro? No, but I'm saying if you crack it, it's the gold one
You'll just sell it too early. Anyway, if you just hold on to that thing
If you hold on onto that thing,
if you hold onto that thing,
it'll always be above floor always, right?
And the longer you hold it, the more above floor it'll be.
It's like, look at the motherfucker
that didn't crack his fucking mega, his mega mutant.
That fool's getting offers from fucking Adam.
Fuck him for a million dollars.
Yeah, exactly.
So I'm saying like, you kill that possibility
for yourself ever.
You know, let's say bearish does actually arc. They hit a good product and that, which is totally possible.
And they go to four or five E that things worth seven to 10 E.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Possibly. I mean, that's what, uh, Oh, look at here. Rocky fucking, uh, Rocky cut it.
I get here, Rocky fucking, uh, Rocky cut it.
I like it.
I like it.
Um, I don't know who else has clipped it, but Rocky,
thank you for doing that.
Oh, I clipped it.
I clipped it when you were lit.
But it's like your good vibes, bro.
Like if you had opened your good vibes,
it wouldn't have been a rare somebody else opened it.
It was rare, you know?
So like, yeah, it's like a Schrodinger's cap, bro.
You don't know what's in there until you open it.
It's going to be different for you than somebody else.
I believe that. Um, yeah. You don't know what's in there until you open it. It's going to be different for you than somebody else. I believe that.
Um, yeah. I mean, I changed my P F P. So P F P is engaged.
Uh, Kyle, nice.
We could look at P F P and make some makes for a good P F P. Should I pick, let's see, am I P F Ping a bearish right now? Let's see.
Let's go picture and picture.
Oh, it's really, it looks
Love this fucking picture and picture, bro.
Uh, this is so good. picture. I love this fucking picture in picture, bro. This
is so good.
What's a tough choice for me because I have the one with the
blue button eyes that I really like but I also have the panda
with the flashers jacket like this motherfucker looks like
he's about to
I have one question for salt. So there are rumors spreading
around that Kabu and Kana Sapiens are gonna be market-made.
Do you want to say something on a recorded space?
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, I don't know nothing about that.
Oh, so it's just a rumor.
I don't know. People say all kinds of stuff. Whatever it takes for you guys to pump the
fucking floors up, you know? The thing is, if it was going to be market made to Johnny, like you
wouldn't want to just say, Oh, it's being market made anyway. Like that's the,
that would defeat the purpose of like, do I think, do I think that like the
investors of the chain will start to support the projects? Yeah. I think that's
inevitable. Yeah. I think like, I think that's inevitable. Yeah, thank 100%. I think it's basically
about seeing who holds water because the way the NFTs work is like we've seen a million times like
people come out hype and then they stop working. So I think what like a lot of the like the the
larger whales and investors are waiting for is the moment where they prove that these projects are
working what projects are working and what to invest in longterm, you know, cause now we've got, yeah.
Well, Rocky said that there's no sound though.
Can't clip beyond one hour in live stream from what he can see.
Huh?
Do you have sound on yours?
Max?
Uh, I don't know.
I didn't, I didn't listen to it.
I don't have speakers on right now.
So, yeah.
Um, yeah, I don't know that whole time thing, bro.
Cause I thought, I thought it went, cause I hate clip I don't know that whole time thing bro, cuz I thought I thought it went cuz I hate clip
Right when you did that shit, so I thought it was gonna automatically record from what I recorded
You know what I'm saying, but whatever I don't know that time being so yeah
Yeah, I I really like this PAP. I like the crown too
Yeah, I like the jacket.
Yeah, I like the jacket bears cold
Bear's cold.
You know, I dig it.
But bro, yours with the blue buttons
matching the blue shirt is pretty good.
Yeah, I just changed my PFP.
I went with the panda one though.
I don't know why I just like the way this panda one works.
Yeah, that's pretty wild, bro.
Yeah, that's exciting.
That was fun.
It was good fun.
What is the- That was fun. That's a good little experience that they built there for revealing
No, yeah and totally said I would like it. He said it's pretty fun. Uh thing but I didn't I wouldn't expect him to having to
Crack the ice like that. Wow, dude, Elon Musk doge
Just blocked a 52 million dollar payment to the world economic forum. Yeah, dude
$52 million payment to the World Economic Forum.
Yeah, dude.
Gotta love it, gotta love it.
Let's go, dude.
Hey, cheese, you check out 77 a bit this morning.
That gameplay looks pretty dope.
It does, they're having a lot of issues.
They're having banding issues, rubber banding issues.
And that was explained to me where your character,
when you're running with it,
and then it just like automatically like rubber bands back,
like slingshots back where it was.
Yeah.
And you keep having to re perform the task.
So they're having issues.
They've never had these issues during any other
of the beta testing and they don't know what.
Oh, that shit was fine.
I know, no, I know, but I'm just saying.
The game was really fun and cool.
What I'll say though is
Dude, I was gonna run out and play that game and then I went and looked at their
Collection and I gotta say this is some of the most atrocious fucking anime art I've ever seen
These pfp sucked it and like why they didn't do this in pixel art being as the game is a pixel game like which are you know, which are did you see?
Which are yeah cuz I seen to on eath they have there's a 77-bit collection that's been around for a long time
That's on eath. Is that the it was doing a lot of volume yesterday. It's even today
It's still 20th in volume on the day
But like dude, holy fuck. This is bad bad anime art I'm sorry if anybody like
loves this I get it arts subjective or whatever I still want to play the game
the game looks like it's a lot of fun and I'll probably end up if it's as much
fun as it looks like it is I'll probably end up just farming XP playing the shit
out of that game but holy fuck dude I don't know if I could bring myself to
buy one of these PFPs. Oh crap. Hey mate. So I bought one of those yesterday apparently
there's gonna be an art upgrade on the old Ronin PFPs so hey good morning and
all that by the way. Jim and Joel. Jim Jim Jim yeah good yeah I spent two or three
hours playing with the game it's really fun and they were having some crazy tech
issues and it's still happening today apparently they don't know whether you saw it's
delayed the the next phase of the launch which is that a battle pass holders was
going to be tomorrow that's now been delayed a little bit longer I think
they've been great with the comms that they're sort of saying look we actually
don't know and there's a whole bunch of things that you know there's less
players than the stress tests we did but we're seeing completely wild different issues that don't stack up logically to
anything we've seen before so on the one hand that's not good but I think from a
comms point of view they're playing it perfectly they're just you know telling
everyone straight up and down what's going on some people are pissed because
they've bought like battle passes and what have you if you owned an NFT
before the snapshot you got dropped a battle pass for free
but I actually sold mine yesterday afternoon because I just I bought it to play and like play around with it and see what was what and I might buy back in but um you know you got the
battle pass through it anyway and the game's fun it's actually not pixel when you're in it
I mean I mean it is depending on how far you go but it's not pixel art as we understand it
it's slightly slicker than that. Um, it was fun.
It was sort of point and click, move a character around a little slashy slashy.
I did this tutorial and by the time I got to the first main world, then the
rubber banding stuff was just nuts.
You click and try and move and you'd have to do the same action like four or five
times in order to kind of just move across the screen.
So it was kind of unplayable.
I like the different power ups. I pinned up the, the I guess what the upgrade might look like I guess up there
So if you want check it out, huh?
Yeah, nice nice nice
How many people so I guess just the actual NFT holders, yeah, that's right, that's all the only people
Yeah, right now right. That's all the only people
Right now it's nft holders later I heard later this week is the people who bought the battle pass and then after that it's going to be full to everybody, right?
Yeah, yeah, but they've they've extended the time frame that they'd originally thought and I don't know that there is
they haven't put like a firm date on when battle pass now is
Um, obviously they don't want more people coming into it while they're still trying to figure out these issues.
I should have bought the battle pass yesterday, bro.
It was like 21 or whatever.
Now it's at 42, whatever they're.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Of the bites or bits or whatever they're called.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you earning, uh, are you guys mining the bits?
Yep.
Yes.
Yep.
Or the bites.
How many of those do you have?
Well, you probably have a lot more with
Yeah, um, so the bonus run up from if you did all the tasks it was like 1.4 maybe 1.9
If you did if you had the nft it was 4.4
So the actual mining that those multipliers didn't kick in until the end of the next phase
And each phase is eight hours you can claim at the end of eight hours
Uh, I haven't gone in and check today to be perfectly honest
The other thing I wasn't sure about is the difference between bytes and bits because they haven't said so what you're mining is bytes
but what you're using is the in-game currency is bits and it wasn't clear to me at least what the
relationship between those two
The other so from my understanding is that the bytes is like the stuff that we're mining and I guess we can exchange the the it is or maybe no buy the bits to go and actually use the in-game like the the gacha stuff and like the battle pass and the skins and all of that kind of stuff
you did the other day cheese that you would have bought whichever it was
let's say it was bits in order to do that and then bites are the ones that
you mine and as you say probably one ladders up to the other but it's not
clear what the conversion rate is yeah at least At least if it is, I haven't seen it.
Yeah. I'm just curious if I want to use that.
So like my bit bot is mining and it says it's up to 2626 is where I'm at right now.
So you can claim after a period, unless you've bought one of the auto mine things,
in which case it automatically does it all for you
I yeah, so I did that. Okay now the bytes itself
I don't know it. I have thirty three thousand three hundred and forty nine
Yeah, that's the stuff you will be mining. Uh, I think but again, I don't I haven't seen a way of switching them yet
I'm sure that's the point of the exercise is it'll be coming or it will qualify you to earn something else with that
You know other token whatever it is
There was a thing in the game that we were supposed to do that we were supposed to go and then you're able to exchange
Whatever our bits for the buy. I got you. Okay. Well, I obviously didn't get to that stage
Yeah, so in the bed in the better stage or whatever part there was like a they were telling everybody like, okay
You got four hours left to do this.
I guess after the missions and stuff like that, you had to go to some...
A vendor.
A vendor, thank you.
And then you were able to exchange your Denim Amomination and all that stuff.
Got you.
I got to the stage where you're introduced to like seven different like shops and like you can buy a gun here and stuff
But just get in between them, even though they're on the same screen was like taking five minutes
So that's the point of which I gave up
Yeah, I mean that's pretty I like that. I enjoyed it. It gave me a
Vibes of like arcade vibes back in the day playing the Ninja Turtles Simpsons. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, they're not gonna lie. Yeah. Yeah yeah and I can see playing it as well I
think it'll be a good free to play apparently I asked a few questions for
because you probably know that you can get like punk and ape versions of the
Ronin NFTs the punk was about 2e the ape was about 0.7 or 0.8 or something
yesterday and I said look can you play as these guys and say yes you will be
able to and they'll have particularly if you your PFB has weapons
and stuff you'll be able to use those they'll translate in game because of the
art upgrades some of the characters will have weapons that you can't currently
see so that's all you know obviously a slight unknown but yeah I mean at the end
of day it's just it was having one to get early access. So that's why I did it yesterday.
Hmm.
Yeah.
It was fun.
I'll do it again.
Yeah. I mean, I definitely want to play next week, I guess.
They haven't given a date yet though, right?
No, I haven't seen another one.
I'll keep an eye on it.
I mean, I'm in that server now.
Okay.
See before it's taken me to play.77 dash bit. Right now I get that as well.
And if yeah, it's a entity only at the top left of the screen. Yeah. NFT access. Okay. Public access
coming soon. Fuck. Yeah. Choose your own in here. Motherfuckers got my hope up.
Thought I was about to be able to do something.
Yeah.
You know, there's a bunch of people,
several probably on the stage.
So if you haven't signed up for it yet,
make sure you go scroll through their timelines.
I'm sure somebody has a referral code out there somewhere.
So get, get signed up for that because I'm definitely gonna want to fucking
I'm definitely gonna play it. You know, pretty, pretty soon.
Yeah, what else are you looking at moon?
Yeah, just been been playing around with that a little bit.
I'm liking like a look at your new bearish.
Yes, pretty great.
It's, it's one of the few I haven't got one yet actually. It's one of the few that I don't have on abstract. So yeah, I might pick one
up. I met Toli, I think I mentioned to you, in Paris and chatted a little bit about the
project. But yeah, you can't be everywhere. No, you can't. Probably just seeing that on-chain heroes just got a badge? Have you seen that yet?
So here's my question is that I played season one. I
Only played it for one day. Do you have to play the whole fucking season?
I only played a bit of badge a week. Yeah, and if you look cheese, it's not immediately obvious
They still have the witty if you go to the rewards tab
It's still up there, but I had a little gold claim button on where your badges all sit
So you might might just don't want the double check there
Okay, yeah, I'm gonna go
I'm gonna go check it at DGN underscore wins one. Hold on somebody else
I wonder if they tagged me in it. I
Don't think they did tag me in it fuck
Then did it in I was trying to somebody else had somebody else had tagged me in
They or they did a clip so I want to make sure I give them some recognition
He'll hey we also you're all your bullish on abstract
He has wheels wheels yeah, I think he is he's he's dropped down I think from the stage you mean well something
Wheels wheels has been all over on chain heroes. He and I have been chatting about that through season one
I think he just bought a ring the other day, which is one of the ETH pieces the original kind of
Mint and then their boosters they let air dropped a bunch of their token called hero
Halfway through season one
And so yeah people made some bank off that that was that was quite good
And so yeah people made some bank off that that was that was quite good
Yeah, just you know, just fucking around really with it. It's some there's lots of stuff on there
I'm looking at is it rude. I don't know how to pronounce it. Roo. I really
Yeah, I'm gonna guess you want to you want to take couple of the floor
Oh, yeah, yeah me and Kyle are putting that don't buy that. I was just telling him earlier moon fuel
I don't think that reveals until the 23rd
Yes, so I do want to get one. I just suspect they might dip a little lower yet
But I'm not sure I could be missing the entry right now
You probably are you missing generational?
Well, I did I listed my one Kabu because I'd like I said, I have two of the plushie characters
So I listed one of those
When that sells
You know, maybe I'll grab one. Maybe I'll wait till tomorrow
I probably won't push it past tomorrow though
Cuz you know as it gets to be a day or two away from reveal
They could start getting hyped again. Yeah, I got I got a Bible tonight. I called that cheese is a bitch
I gotta pull it tomorrow with them. Well, she's yeah you do
And I am a bitch. Yes, I am
You do get that where'd Cairo go? Oh, he is up here wheels. What's up, bro? Nice for my name
I just jumped up. Yeah, I like up here. Uh, wheels. What's up, bro? Nice. I jumped up. Uh, yeah. I like
abstract having fun. It's good time. Uh, final bozu looks like it's starting to kick off though.
I think their pre-sales starting here today, right? So a lot of news on the timeline there.
People are putting the mint price, of course. So, uh, we'll see how it goes. Hopefully I can
get one of those. Um, but yeah, having a good time on change. They haven't released the public
mint price of that, right? No, just the pre-s which is 180. I would expect public to be like maybe what 200. Yeah. 250 Max. So I would 200 right? Nothing too crazy. And that's that's fair, right? You got taproot wizards going for point two Bitcoin. You've got the projects pulling in 130 million for,
I know a lot of it's gonna be refunded, right?
But I mean, there's liquidity out there.
If you don't like it, don't mean it.
There you go.
But yeah, I did get a Genesis ring.
Simple enough.
So I'm excited about that.
So let's get season two started, Scarlett.
When is that supposed to start?
Not sure, not sure.
I think there's gonna be an event kind of prior, like a 1.5. And that'll
lead into season two. So but I mean, I think there's a lot of
appetite for kind of game fire right now, right, which is where
these other things are popping off. Yeah, I think it doesn't
it doesn't hurt that you get the potential for abstract XP as
well. Right. And it's sort of adding a little bit of kind of oh, yeah
Why not to the whole to the whole thing? I think that's
Certainly, that's an incentive. I see it. Did you get any rainbow gacha from the first season?
No, I didn't actually I
Think those are very underpriced right now. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Nice nice
Yeah Like those are very underpriced right now. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Right.
You might've been the bottom right there.
Um, I don't know if somebody who swept up those few, yeah, they did.
It was that 0.06 forward is a 0.068 0.069.
No, that's all right.
Yeah.
I don't pay attention to look, it's NFTs dude.
I'm not paying attention to the volatility on the chart here.
Yeah.
Probably they might.
Um, I know somebody else was asking and, um, I still got to hope that
Kabu sells too, you know, I mean, like, uh, you know, I don't want to have to
weave that if I weaved it right now, I wouldn't even have enough for one.
I so, yeah, I dropped, I dropped several Kabu because I just, I wouldn't even have enough for one. I so yeah, I dropped I dropped several Kabu because I just I don't know
I sold several Kabu and bought some other shit
And I still might even drop a few more dude. I really like Kabu's art and I like that souls guy
I I'm a big fan of all of it
but the one a bit of criticism that I might point out is that I
But the one bit of criticism that I might point out is that I did go to a Twitter space
yesterday that souls was on not hosting but on to talk about Kabu.
It was a smaller account that was hosting the space.
But yeah, whenever I see a founder in a Twitter space, and there's only like 23 people in
the room, and it does make me question how many people are actually active yeah community but nonetheless still overall I mean look I I had like I said
I have five of them I'm listing one I'll still have four that I'll be holding and
I'll probably still be putting on how things go I'll be looking to load up on
the rest of the remaining characters I really do the spirit ones are the shit
the further you go up in those different characters, they just get
cooler and cooler, but the spirit ones might be my favorite.
Yeah.
Then they're nice.
I mean, I think the only thing I'd say with car booze, they've got big intentions.
I know that they obviously they're talking a good game and that
that only means what it means, but you know, it's early days.
I think there's, um, a bunch of stuff pending from whispers I'm hearing.
So I wouldn't go too soon, but then hey, I've been wrong before, so we'll see.
But is NFT Guy also the owner or is it just Soles?
I believe NFT Guy is the project lead and the founder as it were and so is the dev
That's how it's been described to me. Okay
Okay, thank you
But NFT guy is also creeps as I remember
Oh, yeah, I think so you guys up on Ica
So there's a there's a there's a project on suey. It's like like basically the bullish on this idiot but it's one of the one of the top projects on on suey and uh and expected
to be a pretty decent airdrop um there's like a gamified nft that you like buy these keys and
and i'm still trying to like kind of like get my feet wet on it but um figure i throw it out there
it seems like a pretty good smell for yeah i haven't messed around on suey at all yet but
man it just seems like
It's a comfortable spot bro. I'll be honest like I
bought a tiny spot and and it feels like like the first time I bought you were like I'm like I feel like I'm early and not late
But like it's kind of proven enough to where you know it was it just came down from its peak
So I feel like it's a really good spot to come in
Yeah, I totally agree get comfortable. I had a little bit of it as well and
Am I right in thinking I know it was being integrated into Phantom as do you know if that's happened yet, so
Um, I don't think it has happened yet, but I do know that's on the roadmap
I know they're like walrus walrus is a big integration. I think that's gonna like
prove a lot because like I you know as a person that stores stuff like walrus is a cheaper option
so like it's got me like thinking rethinking a lot of strategy where I was going to use you
know cloud infrastructure and like let's say AWS over the next over the next two or three years
and it's got me thinking about like okay I could actually maybe use their infrastructure and
has me thinking about like ways to set up a node but uh I think I'm super bullish on wars
cheese um what the fuck is this hatch kings account
there's a my boy just my boy just texted me he said it happened so he's on phantom oh dope
it looks like there's a new account with a revolving game.
Oh, that's the, Oh, hatch King.
That's no, there's two.
I just saw it.
I didn't know it was okay.
So there's hatchlings and then there's another game called hatch Kings.
Yeah.
So there's two separate games, Max.
What are you screaming about?
That is old.
It says hatch Kings expanding the play hatchlings universe spin daily and earn ticker hatch
Your ticket to scout nodes published by revolving games
Yeah, this was something new that they just they just now talked about last week
I even saw them. I probably saw this tweet a couple days ago
with the like
Game of Thrones fucking video I think I saw this on the timeline, but I didn't realize that it wasn't from like the main account or something
No, I was saying yeah, I think a Mar to know what I was saying about old as I was saying this account is old
Like this is that spin account. You don't mean the different two games one, right?
The other one is yeah And this is the other one that like't I mean the different two games one, right? The other one is yeah, yeah
And this is the other one that like has kind of been on the radar for a long time now
I wasn't following this account until just now though. That's kind of I don't know
I had not seen this account. I mean there's only they could have easily repurposed this account
But there's only two tweets one of them six hours ago and one of them is two days ago. I
Preferred this game rather than the other hashing game. I didn't like the other like tap hatchling games where it was just kind of like
Tom got you or whatever. I like this one where it's like more of a casino slot style game
Okay, yeah, I didn't know anything about I did pick up another Ryu
So they're good. I mean, there's quite a few listed before fucking point zero seven
hey why is whack stop talking about Ryu is what bro you just need to take your ass connect your
wallet and go buy something it's called it's called Rui what bro don't start throwing another name
I'm telling you it's Rui bro okay read it R I'll read it. Ruiui. The R is silent.
What the fuck you mean read it?
I'm reading it.
R-U-Y-U-I.
Ruiui.
The R is silent.
Yuu-yu-ui.
Hey, I think, I think you might be right.
Yuu-yu-ui.
Well, you know, I feel that because my favorite actress is Yanima Rockwell, bro.
So I feel you, bro.
I'm like.
Oh my God. It's fucked up right there
All right cheese, what are we doing?
Ten o'clock this morning. I know some breakfast bitch
Go to Costco my dog's got a pizza party at school. So I gotta go get some pizza from Costco
That's fantastic late guys be safe
I'm trying to get Google to pronounce it for me. Oh god, but it won't yeah
Didn't Jonah like tell you the pronunciation the other day, bro
Just cuz Jonah fucking said it doesn't mean that it's alright Cairo. You know what it is
He's German. This looks like a German word
Really not a German. I know
Cairo, what's up, bitch?
unmute I
Think Jonah's like qualified to tell you what the name is. Yeah
You can talk over pokerprofessionals.com.
If anybody wants to buy that,
it's for sale for $6,999.
Yeah, if anybody wants to buy pokerprofessionals.com,
I'll sell you a hammer that you can hit yourself
in the dick with instead for much secret.
God damn it guys, I really appreciate the showing,
but it's just Poker Professional, not professional.
All right, pokerprofessional.xyz,
I'm selling for 29
Oh, it's your favorite X in liquidity
It's your favorite X in liquidity fabu 10 car Jesus told me so and now you're chilling this other bear project
But yeah, anyways cheese
Pengu Pingu. Pingu. Pingu. Pingu. Pingu. Pingu.
Yeah, see look, this kid knows more about trading
than fucking 99% of the people in this room.
Pingu.
Pingu.
Pingu.
Pingu.
Pingu.
Pingu.
So yeah, I did get a second Ryu though.
Ruyai.
Ruyai.
Ruyai.
Did you see?
Ruyui.
Yeah.
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though, it just goes to show the difference between a fucking NFT and a
meme coin still ever present.
Well, look at, look at pudgy though.
Pudgies back down to 9.75.
Where did they start at?
Uh, well, there was some buys this morning that people knew this shit was coming because then yeah
There was some fuckery afoot Cairo. Remember this morning? We were looking at this Fu Manchu at like 9 East
In there. Yeah, it turned around and got re listed
Pinned it up top. I've been the second pin. I've been it up top. It just looks like you but you faded it again the Second, second. Oh, this one. Okay. Yeah. He took my beer.
That's hilarious.
I wish he was here right now. KP's got one, uh, tucked away that he hasn't tweeted yet.
I'm a hundred percent on board with that Cairo.
Fine work.
Yeah, that's a pretty good.
No, Kenny's not probably doing well.
Oh, nevermind.
Good vibes.
Kind of rebounded. They're back at 0.38. They did dip down to 0.3.
Um, I think people were, were, uh, Jeaton to try and jump over to Pudgy real
quick, but it looks like bigs.
I mean, they definitely were over 10 East, um, or got right at it.
There were some sales, uh, but littles, I like, as soon as I looked at it, after
that announcement, they were at 1.25 and the high offer was 1.24 and I was like,
fuck, I should probably Jeep this right now and just buy it back.
And they're at 1.11, which is only 0.1 difference, but still, um, I still need
to get rid of mine cause mine is fucking ugly and get a different one.
There was one with an Afro I wanted or the one with the really tall cowboy hat, Kyle.
The tall cowboy hats kind of hilarious. It does actually fill the frame, which I like.
I, it's one of the guys I know I said this earlier, but God, I really hate that the little
Pudgies have all that negative space above them
So yeah, the tall hats is pretty elite. I like that one and I like the one with the shark over the head
It's a full shark body eating the head of the little pudgy. Yeah, that's a good one, too
Yeah, but short of that. Yeah, the rest of them are pretty much ass
So whoever designed the little pudgies, yeah, they need to be fired.
All right, yeah, bro, it's 150.
I do have to go get my fucking kids.
Yeah, I got to bounce.
That's shit to do.
It's been a long fucking space.
How long have we been live for?
It's been a good space, we had fun.
You had 70 people watching your abstract stream
at one point, that's pretty good.
Nice.
Let's go. Pretty good. Nice. Finally, one point. That's pretty good. Nice. Let's go.
Nice.
Finally, pretty good.
Yeah, pretty good.
Cairo, you gonna be on later?
No, I'm done for today.
I'm done for today.
Are you really?
Okay.
Yeah.
I didn't really think about it right until right now,
but they've got something to do with
your ridiculously attractive co-host.
Hey, before you leave,
did you ever work out that super-sized fry for your boy? co-host. And before you leave, did you ever work out
that super-sized fry for your boy?
Super-sized fry?
Yeah, dude.
Put it in the bag.
No, I didn't.
What? I don't know.
Yeah, Kyle, we're gonna do something later tonight, right?
We probably can.
We'll have to do it. Nice.
He's peeling back on me now.
Probably about nine o'clock.
I mean, that's what I was figuring.
Yeah.
Like nine, nine, nine, 15, something like that.
Something like that.
I'll be around.
Yeah.
That's cool.
We'll do that.
And then I'll get Kyle set up on his first ever stream the night.
So my actual first abstract stream I am on the stream, but I'm not
streaming on my channel or whatever.
I'm not technically streaming on.
Did you shave your legs before?
Did you shave your legs before that?
No, but I painted my toenails white.
Uh, yeah.
And he does have his hair in a man bun.
Um, yeah.
So we do have man bun action.
Uh, just know, uh, why don't you have none of the little things that like
the chopsticks in the hair or whatever?
Yeah, I don't, I'm not slick enough to use those.
Say we bring that back tonight.
Yeah, just come see us tonight, lingerie mode.
We're gonna be locked in hot and heavy tonight.
I might get Jesus stream account banned with a
unfortunate nip slip or something like that we'll see yeah we're doing and
we're gonna be selling poker professional pro comm tonight highest
bid takes it even if the high bid is like 13 cents high exactly yeah all
right cool fuck off
