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Recap of DeSci @ZuVillage Georgia & @FundingCommons @crecimientoar
Recorded: Sept. 4, 2024 Duration: 0:51:00Space Recording
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. Music Thank you. Hello, welcome everyone to this week's episode of the Desai Mike.
It's Erin McGinnis here behind the Desai Mike profile this week.
I believe Merrick should be joining on in a little bit.
in a little bit and really excited for this conversation to dive into some recent DSI
happenings across a few continents across the world. First at Zoo Village, Georgia.
There was a DSI focused week there and a bunch of awesome people all convening IRL.
And then also down at Crescimento in Buenos Aires and specifically the Funding the Commons
event there, which was towards the end of August.
And we have a couple speakers here from that event as well.
So super excited to dive into this conversation today and be able to share some recaps from these different events,
GSI conversations and some kind of adjacently connected convos as well at these events.
recently connected to Convos as well at these events.
A few of the partners for those different events too
and being able to share some key takeaways
for everyone that wasn't able to make it
down to Buenos Aires or to Georgia in person.
If you weren't able to make it to those,
there are a lot of awesome DSi events coming up over this month and the upcoming couple of months.
A bunch of other super awesome up cities and other cool events, which I'm sure some folks on this call might be able to share some more details on that front too.
So definitely lots of more exciting ways to gather and connect in person and talk about DSI and kind of other related topics throughout the rest of the year.
throughout the rest of the year.
So with that, feel free for anyone listening in to request the mic,
and we can add you up here as a speaker.
And I tried to request for a few of you to join.
Not sure if those invites went through,
so definitely try and send an invite from your end,
and we'll get you up here up on stage. With that, though, Barrett, excited for you to be joining
with Cavo again this week, and you were over in Georgia leading some of the Desai track there and convening a lot of the
Muse Matrix fellows. So would love for you to share about kind of what all went on in
Georgia as some more of the C-Couple fellows joining in now. So for any of you, feel free
you feel free to request a mic too but Barrett I'll throw it over to you.
to request a mic too. But Barrett, I'll throw it over to you.
Thank you, yep I hope everyone can hear me okay I will continue assuming you can.
Yeah I just got back I think like four or five days ago from Georgia. I was there
for I think four and a half weeks and the second to last week was the science week so DCI focus of course as well as
space tech led by Manu from Copernic Space I think he does a few other things as well
and a SynBio and longevity track as well the DCI track was mainly run by the Muse Matrix fellows who
I only told them a few days before the track started that they'll be leading it.
It was half them kind of being part of this fellowship and learning how to run interactive workshops
and as well a chance for them to showcase things that they'd been learning over the last two or three months
that they've been part of the fellowship. Yeah, super cool uh i think first thing i'll just talk about
georgia as a country i did not really envision i'd be visiting georgia it's a little bit off
the beaten track but it was really nice um really nice scenic mountains amazing cuisine uh shockingly good I was expecting it to be kind of like Eastern
European style like gruel I don't know if that's a bit offensive but I had no
expectations for the food but it was really good and I learned apparently
was partly Silk Road so I had a lot of herbs and spices going through it and
you could definitely tell that with the food um but yeah for the DCI track we
did a bunch of things we did
some interactive workshops we did some things related to uh neurotech one of the fellows rob
who's not the caller right now he brought his uh robot dog that he uses his eeg device to control
so that was awesome that was a nice practical one but yeah really for the fellows um i think
pretty much every single one it was their first opportunity to go to one of these network state
events and really see what um what that's like what it involves and things like that i'd love
if one of the fellows or anyone else on this call that was there let's talk a bit more because i've
been to a few now i've been to like suzia, and yeah, this is my third big one.
But it was, yeah, a lot of the fellows' first ones.
I really want to hear what their experiences were like.
Dean, I see you're here.
Are you good to talk?
Come on up.
In the meantime, while some people are hopefully coming up to join on stage um were there any
interesting or major differences that you saw between georgia and some of the other
pop-up cities or maybe even specifically dsci like tracks at some of the other pop-up studies?
This one had like an entire week dedicated to science, and I don't think the others do.
I know Zuzulu had like a SinBio weekend,
but yeah, this had an entire week,
so it was really cool seeing like loads of different scientists
come from different angles,
even if they're not necessarily Web3 or DSi.
For a lot of them, it was their first exposure to DSi as well.
But having an entire week dedicated to a bunch of different science topics was, I think, the first time it's properly happened.
I know Vitalia had a lot of focus on longevity, but they are a longevity state, so it kind of doesn't count.
So it was super cool for the organizers to want a prolonged time dedicated to this sort of thing.
like a prolonged time dedicated to this sort of thing.
Definitely, definitely. Dean, welcome to joining up on stage here. Would love to hear
any interesting takeaways you had while in Georgia, and then also any other recaps specifically on
the DSi kind of happenings there too.
Thank you, Arian. Thank you, GM, GM everyone.
Yeah, like Barrett said, I'm Dean.
Hi everyone.
I'm one of the Muse Matrix fellows.
I'm a pharmacist by background
and I've been involved in the crypto space since 2017
and in the DSc space since 2022
and yes my first ever network state kind of event at zoo village like only a few weeks ago now and
i loved it you know i'm i'm quite uh like a home kind of person like i just stick around
like a home kind of person like I just stick around my local area I'm living
in London anyway so I spend most of my life here controversial opinion as well
I'm not much of a holiday person I don't like going just like to a resort or
somewhere and just sit there and not do anything I'll feel like no like agitated
like I don't want to i want to speak
to people like i want to do something i don't want to sit there and do nothing so that's why i loved
zoo village in georgia so much like it was a space where there was so many like-minded
enthusiastic smart people who when you when you just get in a room together the spontaneity of the conversation
was was like incredible it's not something i'd say it's like tangibly like we didn't we didn't
deliberately get together and say okay let's let's think about how we can solve x problem but we planted some seeds you know and
what i really liked about it is that you didn't you didn't have to do anything like you didn't
have an obligation to do anything so it was you could get out of it how much you you wanted to how much you put in and yeah like Barrett said the Muse Matrix
fellows had like a short-term notice and we put together a we decided what we wanted to do
firstly because there was probably about 50 60 people there and we there were people coming from
a whole range of like a whole broad scope of uh like knowledge when it comes to web3
and most people didn't know know about dsai so coming from that audience perspective we
decided to give like a brief overview as to what this side
was but then when we all sat around the table we were like okay what actually is the site you know
because the the the definitions are still depending on who you talk to people can give different
definitions you know so it was great because there's an exercise in person which hasn't happened a lot since since the um since the
lockdowns an opportunity to get people together and talk is it's just a much higher fidelity
conversation and the the outputs that you can get from in-person meetings are really powerful.
Whilst X spaces are special in themselves, I mean, because X spaces are great because you can get people from all over the world.
And you don't have to like sort out any logistics of getting together.
At some times in the year, I feel like it is useful to do that when you meet in person and
the Muse Matrix Fellows we managed to like cobble together really like a from each of our
individual understandings how we would see how we see D-Site and how's the best to explain it to
beginners or noobs in the space who are
knowledgeable in other areas of these of other areas of like web3 and um science but not especially
dsci and yeah there was a lot of other people there a lot of cool people longevity people um
yeah biotech space tech and yeah i really enjoyed the whole thing and i'm looking forward
to go to another one you know one thing i i was thinking about is if if there is a space i mean
this is a question actually to anyone if there's a if there's a one site where you can see everything
like all the different kinds of pop-up seeds that are coming up i believe zoozalu.city is the one that i've been looking at and there's some other cool like
events coming up like one especially happening in india that looks really cool um so i'm looking
forward to going to that in the future because the other thing is I haven't done much nomadic working.
I've always just been working from home a lot.
But I really like the vibes there because there was a whole space where you could work and chill.
So for me, it was great because, you know, like I said, I don't really like going on holidays, but it felt like I was on holiday.
But I was also working and around like-minded people at the same time.
So it was like that perfect balance for me.
And yeah, I'm going to check out Zuzali.city and see when the next one is.
But yeah, thanks for passing the mic to me, Erin.
And I'll pass it right back.
Amazing.
Thanks so much for sharing a bit from your perspective. And I think there will definitely be a stronger DSI presence in a lot of these other events and pop-up cities moving forward as well, which I think everyone on this call is probably excited for and looking forward to that being the case.
excited for and looking forward to that being the case. I think there's really so much to say
for being able to have space to like come together and just let things flow and see what
collaborations or new ideas or new partnerships or opportunities might be able to come from that.
And that's one thing I personally find super valuable about some of these pop-up cities.
That's actually, Barrett and I reconnected down at Vitalia and just having some of that space
was where we could hash out different beginning ideas for Me's Matrix,
hash out different beginning ideas for means matrix, bounce it off of different people and
not having it within that type of constrained transactional type of environment, I think
was really key to laying a foundation for, hey, like, what if we just launch this and see what
happens and then build it in partnership with different partners, people in the DSI space, with the fellows as it keeps evolving and see what cool things might be able to come out of it.
So, yeah, I think we'll see more and more pop-up cities.
About to post a link in the replies right now of another post I saw recently of all different
pop-up cities or different kind of gatherings just in, I think these are all in Chiang Mai,
just in Chiang Mai this fall. So if you're in that area, definitely check out some of those. The first on the list
is the Funding the Commons Builder Residency. Funding the Commons, I see you down in the
audience if you want to come up here and share a bit about your event down in Argentina, as well
as some of your upcoming events too. I know you recently had an event with Desai Tokyo.
Any updates on that front?
I'll try inviting you back up.
Not sure if that notification went through before as well.
Natty, you were one of the speakers down in Argentina.
Would love for you to come up and share some updates kind of on that other, what was happening on that part of the world last week.
Yeah, last week as well.
Not sure who's behind the Funding the Commons profile this week, but welcome.
Hi, thank you for having me, Teresa, from Funding the Commons.
Yeah, I just returned from Argentina a few days ago and actually with a cold. I'm not used to the
cold weather and it was winter in Buenos Aires, but overall a great experience. It was my first
pop-up city, was there with my colleague Anna, and we did organize basically two days of programming.
And thank you to Newsmetrics for supporting us with that.
I think it turned out really well.
The dynamics was really interesting because we did have some talks.
The audience was not a huge one, so we had also a chance to have more intimate conversations.
Also a chance to have more intimate conversations.
I'm personally kind of new to D-Sign,
but it was really great to meet people like Pamela
from Newsmetrics and D-Sign Mexico
and learn about some of the problems
that decentralized solutions can solve
for traditional science and science funding,
because that was one of the issues that we were discussing.
And we were kind of thinking about how to maybe incorporate some of these topics into the broader comments, conversations that we are
having at finding the comments.
So I think it was really great overall, really nice to see the connections as well.
I know Pamela was asked a question from someone in the audience who was an Argentinian to see kind of these connections being made at the event
in real time. But I think
personally, I think my biggest takeaway
from Crescimiento was that Latin American builders
are very, very DeFi driven.
So even for us funding the comments,
like a lot of the public goods programming,
I think was very, very new to a lot of the audience.
So I think in the future,
we definitely wanna think about how to engage builders
that are more interested in things like freedom as a value
and like user empowerment and user experience
rather than maybe some of the things
that we usually talk about,
like the house and governance.
So yeah, like very excited to keep the conversation going
and potentially, you know,
attend some other pop-up cities.
But as you said,
our next focus is going to be mostly on Thailand.
We do have a few events ready at the residency in Chiang Mai. Unfortunately, the applications
are already closed in August, but we are going to have a hackathon. We're going to have a design
jam and also a conference. And the conference is going to have two days. One is going to be focused on finding the commons,
so our usual tracking. And the second one is going to be IRF commons and DSi.
So actually, I would love to have all of you there. So everyone's invited.
Love to hear it. Yeah, you all always put on super awesome events.
So it was great to be able to collaborate with you through Means Matrix for
your most recent pop-up conference.
And super excited to see what might come out of the Build builder residency out in Thailand. And I'm sure there will be more connection
points either maybe around DEF CON or at least kind of overflow from people at that builder
residency down in Bogota later or down in Bangkok later this fall in November as well.
this fall in November as well.
Nati, we'd love to throw it over to you to share some of your takeaways
or any recaps from either your talk at the Funding the Commons in Buenos Aires
or touching on any of the other points we're covering so far today.
touching on any of the other points we're covering so far today.
Well, thank you so much for giving me the chance to share some
learnings or experiences here.
So as maybe you know, I represent Token Engineering Academy as a student,
talking to students or ideally new students that want to learn more about how to plan and build strategies for incentives,
thinking in public goods and making stronger businesses based on technology.
And it's not new for me, but I like the opportunity because more people are joining the ecosystem and newer ideas are coming to build real value behind that.
Not only to be on the trend, but they are really committed to build value.
So what I found is that, as it was mentioned some minutes ago,
real needs are really in the center of these new entrepreneurs
or web3 entrepreneurs that we had in the Crescimiento event
because we have many needs in Latin America,
especially also in Argentina,
focus on payments, on making businesses
or things related with public goods more transparent, more efficient.
So I have many people coming to me or reaching out to me
to make some questions from states in the country
or provinces, as we call, or small cities trying to understand how they can apply
technology like incentives and blockchain to make things more efficient and transparent,
also to have better trustability, because this is one of our big problems.
As you may know, in Latin America, the corruption and non-transparent governments.
So that was a big, big need, and many people come to me for that.
The other part was data decentralization, how we can help and perhaps connect it with also the pandemics, like how can we
build systems that we can trust on data that it's behind, like, for example, vaccines development,
drugs development, health systems, and the data behind that. So I think that we have a lot of opportunity there
connected with this side
and how we can make science and data
more transparent and traceable
and also take advantage of technology
to make it more efficient and available for everybody,
like making development
not only for scientific people, but also opening the
knowledge for more people to make bigger impact.
And as part of my talk and the experience we had, they split in teams to find a way to build very quick and dirt, but at least build a strategy for incentives. and energy development systems and things related with making economies more robust
and improved people wealth was also a big topic.
And many people were interested in learning more on how to apply that.
So it's not only financial things. Maybe this is the first thing
that people listen about blockchain and how to get involved. And for sure, finance and economy,
it's important in our countries. But once they listen about how we can improve the design of our social, economical fabric, let's say.
They really want to do more and learn more.
So I think that this is a big, big opportunity to consider for future events like this
and to also improve the quality of the products or the projects and protocols that we are building.
It's not just infrastructure.
We need that for sure,
but we also need to build better products,
more robust ones,
and people need to commit with that.
So as users also,
we want to have better things,
no scams, no problems.
We want to have better solutions.
So this is what I got from my experience and what I am really happy and, yeah, I feel
proud of that, like how we are going the extra mile and building value.
We are not so, in that early stage, we are adding extra blocks to make this even better each year.
So thank you so much for the opportunity,
and I hope this helped you to frame up how to move forward,
maybe in future events, and hopefully here in Argentina as well.
Definitely. Yeah. I heard so many great things from down at the event down there. And it was
Definitely, yeah.
really great to be able to have your session starting off with the overview and really
diving into a lot of helpful details on that and then moving into that stage of actually applying it to
different spaces people care about and thinking about how might we think through or design through
some of these different incentive models and just making sure some of those different pieces
line up in a more intentional way, which I think is so needed for all of these different
conversations. And within the DSI space, we're constantly talking on that from like a publisher's
publication point of view. And then just what different opportunities people might be able to have now with DSci.
And that's easily seen in other sectors of Web3 and crypto that might be a little bit further down the timeline as well.
And learning from other ones kind of at a similar stage of maturity.
So, yeah, really thanks for hopping on this space and sharing some of that
overview. If somebody was interested in learning more or diving deeper into some of the work that
you do, or maybe they're just at the beginning of that journey, are there any resources you might point them to or other upcoming events that either you or others in your organization might be at or any other suggestions along those lines?
Well, if you need to make any question, really no silly questions, everything is new for everybody.
So you can ping me on my X account.
You can send me a message and I can guide you through the right path depending on your
need.
So that's one thing.
Also, you find a link there in my user profile with all the different places where I used to upload or share knowledge,
like talks or articles that I'm writing sometimes.
So you can find that there.
But for sure, if you want to learn more about incentives and strategies and methodology to create that
and really think in a robust system.
On Web3, Token Engineering Academy, it's the right way to,
or the right place to go.
So for that, you can go to the Token Engineering Academy X account or tokenengineering, I think it's .net, I'm not sure now,
as the webpage.
So you can find more things there. I think it's .net, I'm not sure now, as the webpage.
So you can find more things there.
Many information apart from modules that you can take for free to be a token engineer and go deeper into this knowledge space.
Also with talks and different activities and events
that are happening very often
or even weekly sometimes.
So you can find more there for sure.
Awesome.
Yeah, there really are so many great resources on there
and you're just a wealth of knowledge as well.
So if you haven't yet, checked out some of those resources,
Token Engineering Academy, or followed NADA yet, definitely consider doing that. And yeah,
it will likely be applicable to many of the different things everyone here is building.
things everyone here is building. Thanks so much for joining this space and also coming
or being such a core part of the conference as well, especially since you were balancing a couple
different schedules too. So really appreciate all that you did on that front to make that a really great workshop and experience.
With this, anyone who's in the audience right now would love to create kind of an open invitation
for you to come up onto stage. And if you were down in Buenos Aires at Crescimento,
If you were down in Buenos Aires at Crescimanto, Aleph, or at Zoo Village, Georgia, or I guess any other recent IRL DSI events,
maybe it was at a pop-up city, or maybe you have an IRL event planned in the near future,
I would love to create some space now to kind of chat through that. For anyone up on stage
or in the audience too, would love if you have any additional thoughts as the convo has continued
to progress or other questions kind of top of mind. This can be a space to dive into some of those thoughts too.
In the meantime, one question that I'm curious for anyone up here on stage or listening in on the audience is as more of these pop-up cities, different events are being run all throughout the world,
are there any themes or maybe structures throughout the conferences or days
that you either would like to see a lot more of or maybe see less of?
Dean, I know you were touching on this a little bit earlier, too,
but I'm not sure if there are any other thoughts kind of on that front as more conferences and
pop-up cities keep being built out. No thoughts right now.
All right.
Tomas, welcome.
Hello, everyone.
I don't know if you can listen to me correctly.
It's the first time I'm using X in the desktop to join a spaces.
We can hear you great.
Or at least I can. So welcome.
All right. Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you. So yeah, my name is Thomas. I was born in Argentina,
but I have lived the last, I don't know, eight or nine years abroad in mostly, most of the time
in Sydney. But I've arrived a few, like a month ago, and I've been going to the Solana Economic
Zone in Buenos Aires, and I'm just very impressed with everything that is happening right here,
right now in Argentina. I think it's like, it's a very stark contrast between what is happening
here versus what I was experiencing in Sydney,
in Australia. Even in a place like Australia, where it's a first world country, you might expect
more things to be happening here. But I think in places like Latem right now, because of the need
that people have for this technology, adoption is happening a lot faster. And the need that people have for this technology, like adoption is happening a lot faster
and the things that are happening here,
I don't see occurring in a lot of places around the world.
So I just wanted to share that, my perspective.
Yeah, I would love for,
if you have any further points elaborating on that,
I think that's a really interesting perspective,
just to keep in mind.
And as people might have various different backgrounds.
So yeah, I would love for you to elaborate further.
Yeah, sure.
I see there's a lot more activity happening here.
Like there's a lot of different events going on at the same time
throughout the week, week in, week out, which is very different than what I was experiencing
in Sydney, which was a lot more small meetups, maybe 20 people with a lot of luck once or
twice a week. But here is a lot of big events back to back with lots of
great speakers a lot more movement and i see specifically i i work a lot with artists
and i see a lot of drive for for artists to start experimenting with all this technology. And that is driving, is creating a lot of interesting things that is attracting a larger
audience, I think.
I know that's helpful.
Definitely.
I can understand what you mean by certain regions not having the same kind of concentration or mass of people being able to support quite as
many frequent events, and then finally going somewhere where it has such a great overall
culture of people who just get it and how powerful that can be. So I think from a global scale, there will definitely be a lot more growing attention and kind of partnership
and involvement down in that region or just learning from how much energy has been able
to be created there. And just from like a crypto adoption standpoint, how so much of the population in Argentina just gets it already in such a deep type of way is super cool.
So I'm super excited to see what will keep kind of growing from some of the activation energy that was put in over the past month down there.
Yes, yes.
And I am starting to work with some people, local people here,
to start creating more of these kinds of events and keep bringing this attention.
To me, I see it as a great opportunity for places like Argentina
that have in the traditional system they they were they are struggling quite a bit and suddenly
this new opportunity because here you have more need the the need is more it's more pressing
it drives more adoption faster than other countries. So I see this as a big opportunity for pretty much anyone that wants to build community
or wants to create art or wants to do anything they want just by adopting this technology
and by creating this movement and by bringing all these different people together in one place, I think, yeah, I want to contribute more to this,
creating all these kinds of opportunities.
I think there's a lot of very interesting things
that are going to come out of Latin America specifically.
I think Argentina right now is very well positioned for that.
So, yeah, I want to keep coming to these kinds of spaces and I want to learn and see how
we can help keep pushing this forward. Definitely. Leading off of one of the questions
or points kind of posed earlier about how like public goods and kind of more of that angle of the opportunities with
Web3 and crypto might be a little bit newer to some of the audience or folks in Argentina.
Do you have any thoughts on that from an onboarding perspective if
that might vary from maybe other ecosystems you've been a part of or had
exposure to? If maybe they have a little bit more like stronghold
understanding in DeFi, do you think there's much of a difference for onboarding
in Argentina into DeFi, public goods, different things like that compared to
other ecosystems or other parts of the world? Yeah, I think for the public goods, I think it's
something that is easily understood by people. In in fact there's a lot of different experiments happening right now with different groups that are starting to test out
like having a on-chain treasury and making decisions um to fund whatever they see they
see that requires it there's been an experiment of like um selling nfts to fund cleaning certain
parts of the of the town so i i think there's a lot of ex that we can experiment there and
there's a lot of drive that people are already experimenting with these kinds of of tools
experimentally with these kinds of tools to achieve these kinds of results.
I think that is more, it generates more interest in the general public than
may perhaps a DeFi tool, something that is more financial.
I see more the governance aspect and the funding of public goods.
I think that's what is driving more attention
than the financial side.
Interesting, that's awesome.
And super encouraging here for a lot of the folks
listening and on the call here
and a lot of the work everyone here is working on. So super excited
to see kind of what will keep blossoming up there moving forward. Are there any projects you're
currently involved with that might have like an immediate overlap with the D-Sci space or maybe the token engineering type of space as well
or education, or might these be some topics
to keep our eyes out for in the future?
Definitely, definitely.
I think, well,
the Crescimiento R, done by Aleph, I think is doing amazing work.
And there are a couple of groups here that are quite popular for people that want to start,
and they might find it struggling to know where to begin.
There's a Web3 Musiciansina telegram group run by sol that they're doing a lot of
great work to introduce web3 technologies into the musicians of argentina there is a group called um
um c3 which is like culture 3.0 which are doing a lot of work introducing all this concept
to new people and to share all the events that are happening in the space.
So that's a great place for people that want to get started.
And I am working with some people here to bring a project called Latem on-chain and we're trying to just bring tools for
bring as many people as we can to start experimenting on-chain that is not
it's not out yet we're working on it and we're we're trying to speak with the
people in the Solana economic zone which is here for another two weeks and if
anybody's in Argentina and has not
gone to the economic zone yet, I think you definitely need to.
Things have very good space to, again,
bring people that are very different in mindsets
into the same place with something in common,
which is to take advantage of all this new technology
to take advantage of all this new technology
and to build better systems.
and to build better systems.
Definitely.
Cool.
We'll definitely have to check some of that out
and keep us updated with the progress of some of the things
you're working on, too.
Just because the more we can all lift each other up,
the better, I think, the world will be for it.
So I'm super excited to see what will keep happening
down in Buenos Aires and moving forward.
And hopefully more happenings on the Desai front.
I know Desai Argentina got spun up recently,
so there should be more connections
on that angle of things too. With that, anyone else listening in, feel free to request the mic
to come up here on stage. If you have any questions or thoughts to add to the conversation,
If you have any questions or thoughts to add to the conversation, or like I said before, any upcoming events to make sure are on people's radars.
Cool. In the meantime, Barrett, not sure if you wanted to give kind of a brief shout out on the Castalia front, or we can just leave it as a cliffhanger.
Sure. Hopefully we can announce the dates by the end of next week as well as the location
and sign up to tickets, etc. Provisionally thinking towards the end of November and then
to the mid-12 of December will be a three-week event. It will definitely be in Mexico City,
we're just finalising which venue. And yeah yeah look out for some exciting things dropping
Friday next week.
Yeah it should be super awesome I'm excited for that.
I'll post the waitlist in the reply here as well. So if anyone's interested in staying up to date there,
you can be first to know of some of these details as we publish them out.
All right.
All right.
Cool.
So that should be down below in a moment, hopefully.
If you fill out that form there, then you'll be updated right away as some more of those
details are finalized.
And if you're interested in collaborating on it, definitely reach out to Barrett or myself, Erin McGinnis, my profile's down in One of the Listeners down below or Muse Matrix.
Dean is one of the fellows there as well, who can help point you in a good direction on that front.
So if there are any other thoughts from this conversation here that might have inspired you
of things you might like to see at a DSI-focused pop-up city, definitely let us know so we can
keep that in mind as it's being co-created and co-designed.
Amazing. Well, I think this might wrap up the space for this week. Definitely come back next
week where we'll be talking with OnChain HQ. They recently released a DSI-focused report.
It's super comprehensive. I'm so excited to be chatting with them about kind of all of their
different findings and survey responses and how DSI might be able to make research. Great again is the title of their report.
So definitely go check out that if you haven't already.
Otherwise, next week we'll be diving into all of the details
on that and hearing from some of the people who made
that report possible as well as some folks from different
organizations highlighted in it.
And that's at the same time, 4 p.m. UTC, 12 p.m. Eastern time.
If you have a topic that you would like to be the focus of these Desai Mike episodes moving forward,
definitely reach out to this account here, Desai Mike or Aaron McGinnis down below, and we can get you scheduled
for kind of like the featured guest speaker or theme in upcoming weeks. Alternatively,
if you have a topic that you would like to be covered, but maybe you're not the go-to expert
on that topic, reach out as well and we can make that be a discussion topic
and work on getting the right people into the room here.
So with that, thank you so much for joining in
and I'll see you back here next week
to talk about OnChain's DSI report
on how will DSI make research great again. In the meantime,
have a great week and I'll see you next week. Thanks everyone.
