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<redacted> Episode 1, Part 2
Recorded: April 24, 2025 Duration: 4:57:30Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, participants explored the latest trends in the crypto space, highlighting new project launches, strategic partnerships, and innovative token offerings. Key topics included the upcoming Mint Boss giveaway, the integration of Mars Cats Voyage into Nifty Island, and the anticipated launch of Metazoku, showcasing the vibrant growth and evolving landscape of Web3.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Yo, supper site.
Hey, hey, hey.
Can you hear me okay?
I was just doing some replies, reteting all that good stuff yeah no worries i'm trying to figure out like how do the people play the um the
uh fucking elevator music um is there like a soundboard there's a soundboard on pc
interesting yeah they don't there's some weird mix matches you know they give some things to
phone users some things to pc users i don't know that's why a lot like, you know, right now, for instance, I'm on my phone.
Now, if I start playing music through my speaker, would that sound good?
Well, but then I also got my AirPods. And so maybe I set an AirPod next to me.
I'm sure there's ways that people figure it out. I think, you know, we'll we'll definitely get there, get a little bit more in depth with that.
Do some more test spaces and kind of see what we can work with
because yeah, you definitely want to get
some type of decent quality
sounding tunes going
looks like we got Luke in the
building, Shiba King
Art, JB
already here, ready to wrap and roll let's go
hello hello hi
sorry to interrupt you if you want to play some music because i still haven't gotten
it right where i can play music like it doesn't sound like complete garbage.
So, yeah.
I could do that.
I just arrived home.
What do you want to listen to?
90s? Rap? What do you want?
Anything.
Something energetic.
Energetic?
Hold on a second.
Dubstep. Drum and bass. I don't know. energetic some techno technotronics what up guys what's happening hey Hey hey
Guess we got she will doing a little tunes
And we got some more people in the bud
Hardcourt headhunter remix shit
Long intro though, it's a six-minute song.
Like, you want this hard or you want me to slow it down a little?
That might be a little bit too fast.
I'm not a big fan of the very fast tempo stuff.
All right.
Too fast.
Too fast.
Hold on.
We're right back.
We'll have a slight conversation.
Let's let the room fill.
I'll get music in a second.
Give me, like, 30 seconds.
Hi, everybody.
It's good to see you. Three hours in the sunlight. See you, bro. I feel like a crispy fucking cream donut right now. I'll get music in a second. Give me like 30 seconds. Hi, everybody. It's good to see you.
Three hours in the sunlight. I feel like a crispy fucking cream
donut right now. I definitely got sunburned.
So, burnt Shiva coming.
But yeah, hi. And lucky you, bro.
I can't wait for that weather.
I'm up in Canada, so it's...
We're dying for some
good weather.
Hi, everybody. What's up, Luke? JB? some good weather Yeah, that sounds good. Is it like perfect or so you're louder? If you guys want, I can play music through my mic.
I can put on like a...
I've got it all set up here if you guys want.
Oh, you're in.
Yeah, sure, JB, if you can.
I'm trying to sort mine out.
I haven't figured it out where it doesn't sound all ruggy.
So, no worries.
I'll put it on.
And we know Jay usually has a great selection of tunes.
I thought of doing a little giveaway.
I see JB actually just posted it.
So, giving away Mint Boss.
Let me know if it's too loud or...
Yo, Mintotar giveaway in the space.
Let's fucking go. No, no, Yo, Mintatar giveaway in the space. Let's fucking go.
No, no, no.
Mintatar giveaway? Holy shit.
Let's go.
Well, unless you have a Mintatar to give away.
Then you just give it to me. Thank you.
I got some Mint passes to give away.
Mint passes and I got some Skelet friends too.
New Mint on Ape Chain.
No, I told Luke about it last night.
I sent him a link.
I think Luke should Mint those. Mr. Whale. on ape chain no i told luke about it last night i sent him a link um i think luke should should uh
mint those mr whale i think they're like two bucks or three bucks something like that
i got rich and left the hood still Still don't lead a career without it.
Swear it ain't no better feeling than coming through these thousands.
So much money can't keep track.
I think I might need an accountant.
I've been running up that check.
Some blue hunts just keep howling.
Came a long way from depression.
All these bitches keep me smiling.
Know my grandma still with me.
When they get cold, I feel no spirit.
Talking to my left, just a phone call.
Do the car is walking toward them shackles, see my palm of her eyes.
Try to get something else on her.
Here we go.
Here we go.
For those that's in the space, tag some people.
There's not a lot of people in here yet, so we'll see how it goes.
Just give it a little bit more time to fill up if anybody's coming.
Hopefully there's more people that show up. almost as many speakers as there's listeners or basically more gg yeah we'll share the room
we'll get them up on the block. Ladies, they say homage, I hate to say Ray fell off my own nigga, my last album was the
Ronnie.
They want to know if he still got it, they say rap's changed, they want to know how
I feel about it.
Dr. Trey is the name, I'm ahead of my gang.
Still, up in the sleep, still fucking for peace, still not loving police, still rock
my cats for the cuff and the crease.
Still got love for the streets repping 213.
Still the beat bang, still doing my thing.
Since I left ain't too much change.
I'm representing for the gangsters all across the world.
Still hitting him conus in the molo.
Still taking my time to perfect the beat.
And I'm still got love for the streets.
I'm representing for the gangsters all across the world.
Still hitting him conus in the molo. I'm still taking my time to for the streets. It's the D.R.A. I'm going to be the fun of the games that's all across the world. I'm getting hit, hit, hit, tell us in the molo.
I'm getting to pick up my time for the fact that I still got love for the streets.
It's the D.R.A.
For the last time you heard from me, I lost some friends.
Well, me and Snoop, we dipping again.
I get my ear to the streets.
Dined in the M.P's, triple slat.
I'm doing this to the week.
Still, I stay close for the heat.
Even when I was close to defeat, I rose to my feet. please
it's not a fluke it's been tried out the truth let's turn off the lights from the world class record group. It's diplomatic after mathematics.
In the home and drive by the tagmatics.
Swap feet, sticky green and bad traffic.
I dip moved and I kiss you.
I'm not the thing for the gangsters all across me.
But I'm still hitting them counters in the momma.
I'm still taking my time to protect the beat.
And I'm still not over the street.
I'm not the thing for the gangsters all across me. I'm hitting them counters go back to beat and I'm still going to go over the streets. I'm about to sing one of the gangsters all across the world.
Hit, hit the cones in the middle.
I'm still taking my time to go back to beat and I'm still going to go over the streets.
It's the DRE.
There's nothing but Mohaic shit.
Another classic CD for y'all to vibe with.
Whether you're cooling on the corner with your fly bitch.
Let's track it.
The shack, play this track.
I'm representing one of the gangsters all across the world. Hit, hit the cones in the middle. Yeah, Got his rap like a mummy Still ain't trippin' love to see young blacks get money
Spend time out of slow, set they mums out of hood
Get my boys off the shot
No more livin' hard, barbeq 7th day
Driving fancy cars
Still don't get my real heart
Representing for the gangsters all across the world
Still hitting them tonus in the mullet
Still taking my time to perfect the beat
And I'm still gots over the street Sorry everybody, we were just waiting for some more people Sorry, everybody.
We were just waiting for some more people.
Some people are running late.
Some of the speakers, some of the guests.
Thank you for everybody that's joined in so far.
One of our guests is actually playing music for us
because I'm a Mickey Mouse host, but I'll get there.
Stealing some words from the other hosts.
You know, that's how we roll in the space.
But thanks for everybody that's jumping in.
Dachman, I sent you a speaker invite.
I'm not sure if you got it.
You still show as a listener.
So feel free to jump on in.
I think Art said he has some meetings and stuff.
So he's probably running late or he's busy.
So anyway, it doesn't matter.
Whoever shows, shows.
If there's somebody else in the audience, Tom, you're welcome to come and speak up.
We don't need anybody.
We're just kidding.
We have all our friends here.
Fuck it.
If you want to come speak up, because Quan is also busy with some interesting stuff.
We didn't really speak about that last time so i mean he can come and speak up if he wants
uh if he wants to fill somebody else's space uh we can have a chat i don't care how many people
is in here um it's it's all good like i did well last week um i went to go listen back to that
space i think it was a pretty good space uh For those that missed it, I feel sorry for them. I sent it to my mom. My mom listened to it, and she told me she's proud
of me. So, you know, for the rest, whatever, don't give a shit. I'm happy moving forward,
getting more confident, still nervous when I started this space, but, you know, whatever.
We're here. We're running it up. There's some cool stuff going on in the space
that we can talk about. I felt bad. I got JB back because last week there was a lot of,
it was a little bit of an emotional space. And I think it's good though, because that's what it's
about for me, you know, being real and we can all share the love and, you know, just, it was all flowers
everywhere. That space was so good. I really liked it. So, yeah, anyway, yeah, what's up?
Yo, what's up? I'm going to put my phone down so I can shower because I was waiting to shower.
The machine said he was going to play a game online with me.
I literally said I was showered. You should have showered when I showered.
He left me hanging for an hour and a half,
so now I need to take a shower, so I'll be
back shortly.
Show's a fucking mess.
I just made a boo-boo handsome. I'm sorry.
He's always in a shower, bro.
It's crazy. At least we know Luke is clean.
Yeah, it's pretty late for handsome I don't know it's Thursday
he's not partying maybe he's relaxing
but it's you gotta be very careful
Fleshy this is just a warning if you let up
handsome after 3 o'clock
p.m. Eastern it's probably
quite dangerous there's that much
filter on the man oh not today
not today only only on
yeah I think Saturday we do have a little bit of, yeah,
a little bit of trouble because Saturday is Kings Day over here.
So Saturday, nobody let this MF her up on a stage.
Oh, please don't.
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to have a fat tea session if that's the case.
Shout out to you. Shout out to you.
Shout out to you, Hanson, for being here.
Shout out to our friends for jumping in.
Todd, Yuki, G.
A lot of familiar faces down there.
I just had a nice call with Doc, man.
We're working and we're cooking.
We got some things planned.
We're always working on something next over here.
I may take off for three hours, but back to work as soon as I get home and after my shower.
I did not mean that to rhyme.
It just happened.
Shiva, you did so many posts today.
It seemed like you had a good day.
Like playing, what was it?
Frisbee?
Were you playing golf at some point?
Like, what was that?
Is that golf?
Oh, disc golf.
It's literally disc golf.
It's literally golf with frisbees in the net.
I landed a birdie, which is, this hole was 450 yards.
I must have thrown the disc about 200 yards, and then I threw my second shot about 200 yards.
It caught the perfect draft and landed in the net with a roaring ching,
and all he heard was everybody scream, oh my god! That was incredible!
So my friend, Difgolf, many years, said that
was the most impressive birdie he's ever seen.
I'm taking that, and I'm running with it. So today, I
had three threes,
which is under par for each hole, and one
two, which is the...
And I shot my best
score today, too, ever.
So, let's fucking go.
This could be my new profession.
I don't know. I might have to quit bowling. We'll see.
That's very cool.
So what?
Is it golf with a frisbee?
Is that what you're saying?
Google it, literally.
It's literally golf. It's like you're using a frisbee
and it's not a hole. It's a net
with chains in it.
It's standing. It's on a three foot pole.
You could stick the bitch in your backyard
and throw a Frisbee if you wanted to.
I told grandma today, I might have ordered one on Amazon
and she might just catch me tomorrow morning
pegging it into the ground,
being like, I'm just going to use the 100 yards
and my grandma has a massive backyard.
It's literally, you could fit two fucking pools
and a jacuzzi in this shit.
Probably a small roller coaster.
But yeah, we're going to stick a little
thing. I love, okay, so I love
hiking. So this course was literally in the
mountains. We hiked up a mountain, played
disc golf. It took two and a half hours,
and I did it in the 80 degree weather.
Yeah, great day. Great day today.
With zero
sunblock.
Zero sunblock, and
a container full of iced tea.
Great idea.
No, but I made it back.
I'm going to actually eat the rest of my lunch because I put it away.
I'm having some chicken and pasta.
But, yeah, I cooked today.
I literally am red.
So I'm happy.
I love – I had the – I had, like, energy like I was a fucking teenager today.
I love the weather.
I love the sunlight.
I don't know, vitamin D, getting it from the sun and not somebody's
sun. But yeah, it's dope. It's a dope time
to actually enjoy the beautiful weather and get
outside.
Yeah, so I just want to say hi, handsome.
What's up? I'm sorry I waved you
by accident because I
invited you as a speaker and I didn't see you
were speaking.
And then I clicked on him again and then I removed him as a speaker.
So, sup, Anthem.
Darkman, jump down again.
I see.
I'm just going to invite you back up.
Hold me back up.
Hold me back up.
Don't you're stressing him out.
Hold me back.
Well, he has time.
He has like a call.
He's on.
He'll be back up.
Oh, okay.
I see.
Okay, no, it's no problem.
It's not the end of the world.
Darkman, take your time, dude.
Space just started.
We're going to be here for a while, probably again over an hour.
I mean, I don't have anything else to do except go play Fortnite with the homies.
I heard Luke was in the shower.
I'm thinking about doing some shower spaces as well.
Can we just do, like, team building in the shower as well?
Oh, no.
Yeah, you might as well turn on the video.
Collect some money.
I don't know. We can put the money and put it into royalties.
Add it to the box.
I might do this.
I'm thinking about it. Maybe Saturday night.
I agree. It's all about being genuine, right?
We gotta be genuine, so.
I'm in.
Awesome.
It's gonna be the new thing. We got to be genuine. I'm in. Awesome.
It's going to be the new thing.
Live shower spaces.
Luke, is your hand still up?
Are you out of the shower?
Please don't speak in the shower.
Not in my spaces.
Come on.
I'm going to fucking wave you.
I think he's just got his speaker on.
It's been like that for five minutes.
Oh, there he is.
Why is your speaker on? Did you lean out of the shower just to hit that?
Tom's hand is up.
I don't know if he is doing it for the vibes or for the culture.
Yeah, no, I was just about to say hi to Tom.
I see he jumped up.
Hey, GM, I'm on my phone right now.
I'm out and about touching grass.
I just want to bring the attention to
Shiva's vitamin D joke.
Nobody laughed at it, and it was
very good.
I laughed out loud at a vitamin D joke.
It was very good. So kudos,
Shiva. Funny dick reference.
GG's.
GM, everybody.
Happy episode one, part two of redacted uh let's go that's it
that's all i got um i have to say i missed the joke so i'll laugh when i listen back at it so
you know apologies um it was a good joke it doesn't need to be repeated, that's for sure.
Y'all know we got this for sure.
Gamble is up here.
What's up, Gamble?
How are you doing?
What's up, everybody?
Man, I just came in right now, and all I hear is about team building in a shower and vitamin D and dick stuff.
I don't know what I just jumped into.
I just wanted to come say hi and show support to you, Fleshy.
But I'm here for the wild time. Let's roll this you know maybe i can have some good input on this
it's okay this is a safe space uh i'm open-minded you know we can speak about anything and everything so you know to a point i uh you know then i i have a line somewhere so you know once
you cross that line you'll be wiped and then then you know, so don't cross that line again.
But otherwise, yeah, I think we have enough people.
Maybe start jumping into the whole point of the space.
Okay, except for we had two hands just came up.
Luke, what's up?
You know, my hand just came up. Luke, what's up?
Yo, my hand's not up anymore.
Oh, okay.
All right, no problem.
Tom, is your hand up again or down?
What's up?
No, you might have a glitch.
My hand's down. I believe so.
What's up, dude?
I see you, Aurelius.
I love you, yeah.
I love his voice.
Even, ladies and gentlemen gentlemen boys and girls um just thought i'd come up because you spoke about that
line and i was just intrigued where is the line so we don't cross the line or shall we set the
line or is that just an imaginary line and we're just going to say whatever we want to say i would I would wape him flushing because this is the line right um pretty much uh no no no no I'm kidding no I'm I'm I'm pretty chilled um I don't think we'll set
it um I I don't know what what the line is yet so that will be determined as as as it goes forward
um a lot of the stuff is redacted um you know with the so you know that's
i called it that for a reason so you know we some stuff we just don't speak about you know it's uh
hidden behind some black uh black lines or whatever or just not there um so yeah but anyway
it's glad i'm glad to have you yeah um i heard you on the
space a little while back and the way that you spoke it was so funny um i love your voice um
and then i saw some of your art earlier today like i fucking love retweeting and liking people's
shit um and you did some cool stuff today and um i don't want to do them all uh so i just did like
two on that pokemon card kind of stuff.
Actually, I'm glad you're here because now I can actually
ask you where I can post.
Well, it's not my profile picture.
It's Luke's.
But whatever.
I'm flexing is.
So it's fine.
I'll post this on there.
And then you can do that.
I think it would look awesome.
But yeah, that's really cool, though.
It's really, very cool though it's really very cool
yeah anyone anyone that wants a it was just a concept that came up with today because i'm doing the stories at the moment and um i don't know why i was thinking of some do you know i'll
just say it out loud i think i was thinking of shiba for some reason and then pokemon came into
my mind and then yeah the the card concept came into my mind.
And then I was like, okay, well, I did slide in Loot's DMs because I'm not going to lie.
I do sometimes throw the gasoline, strike the match, and then stand back and watch what I do sometimes on purpose.
But, yeah, I decided today would just be a, yeah, got to catch them all sort of scenario.
But anyone that wants a little Pokemon
card of their PFP, check it in the comments on
that post and I'm just doing a couple now
actually.
That's awesome. If you want to post it up top, feel
free to so people can see what we're talking about.
For those that's in the space, tag
some people, retweet the space.
I'm thinking of doing a little giveaway
for... I'll still decide what it's going to be.
I'm thinking of giving away some Persis for the people that don't have Persis, because
that was the whole point of last week's space.
Yeah, with that, obviously, I assume Cube will send them avatars and all kinds of stuff
that they can use in nifty
or wherever else so yeah I think there's enough people here now jb I want to speak about mars cats
the aliens the alien cats metazoku oh that's I actually thought of giving away a metazoku
Oh, I actually thought of giving away a Metazoku.
Then, obviously, the ruins, because I think that's pretty cool.
Then streaming.
There's a few things I want you to just touch on quickly, if you don't mind, that we missed
last week.
Yeah, so let's go.
cool cool yeah thanks man um i'll try to as i speak to just uh drop some stuff into the um
Cool, cool.
Yeah, thanks, man.
into the um uh what you call again audio box or whatever audiotron the megatron
the megatron there we go i'm like damn what is it um no no thanks for having me back again and and uh happy to kind of talk about um you know
what we're doing mars cats voyage uh some people are probably familiar with us when we um minted
out in 2021 so summer of 2021 og project and um like a lot of projects back then um you know
founders were really deep into into into blockchain
art you know like art's probably one of the best character art um collections you can find like for
like a for for pfp and stuff like go check out you know the collection or even just you know look at
my pfp right it's it's kind of one of the nicest um um pieces you'll get but i mean like you know
they they weren't, you know,
they were sort of like in between a bunch of different things.
They had a bunch of side businesses as well.
But they definitely did see it as like a big avenue for growth
and to do something really cool with it.
And again, like a lot of other projects, you know,
community kind of stepped up, did a lot of help in guiding in the project.
English wasn't their first language, so many people stepped up, including myself and other people, too, to help with marketing, to help get the rating going.
You know, typical stuff that you see in like NFT collections from back then.
And, you know, Mint had a great time.
Like everything was going super well right like all the different celebrities that joined we had paris hilton join
we had like freaking mark zuckerberg's sister join we had athletes join um it was just it was
like a wild time and this was like no no payment nothing just like just joining in on the hype. And everybody was just loving NFT culture and stuff.
So it was, yeah, it was a great time.
And closer to 2022 was when we started a process to buy out two of the original founders.
So we still have the original artist, but two of the founders that, you know, in between different things and like, you know, very kind of, and there's nothing wrong with it, very kind of, you know, entrepreneurial in between
like a bunch of different businesses and you're doing this and that. But as you know, in like
Web3, you need to be extremely, extremely focused and like, you know, 24-7 almost on the project,
just even to stay alive.
And so we wanted to make sure that when we did do the CTO,
we had the people involved that could actually go
and make the sacrifice.
So I had myself, Big N as well,
who's I think I saw him in the crowd for a bit there.
He's also there, who's helped me
to start that process with the founders
and we got it all done legal in 2023 and but even after the cto like things were going super well
community really kind of got behind us and saw that you know we we made the sacrifices necessary
to to get it to where it has to be. And, you know, we've, you know, had a really good run, right?
And we're continuing to do really well in like Web3 and gaming.
Now the top metaverse and now the top ETH community in Nifty Island.
We have released so many cool bloom rewards through N nifty island as well part of our ip is
really you know integrated into the nifty island world and and we're going to continue to um to
work on that um we're also now thrive platinum certified as well like like g's on uh on the
thrive platform um and uh yeah just continue to you know, to keep working on that.
Working on different partnerships as well.
We've got something really cool coming up with ApeChain that's going to come out early in May.
So a really cool integration that we've been working on for a while.
And massive kudos as well to Yuga and Ape Chain too for being so, I think, surprisingly helpful and surprisingly supportive, I think, for a lot of collections.
And people that are on ETH that are also part of that, that have kind of had a chance to dabble into Ape Chain, I think see that as well.
And it's really beautiful to see just how much support that,
you know, you, you really get from even the top people. It's shocking a bit, you know,
so I love to see it. And I think that what's being built on Apechain is, is really beautiful.
And you guys all see it too. Many people I see here, like are, you know, dabble, you know,
really hard in Apechain. We're obviously in other, we also do like other things like we do stuff in in
in abstract a bit as well um on the streaming side and and um also recently became ambassador for
ape chains uh provider um ov so that's really cool they're kind of getting their their um their tech
uh cranked and and you know um um you, helping them get that tech, you know,
fine tuned for it to be, you know,
good to go and start onboarding more people.
And yeah, like you were saying a bit before,
definitely massive, massive push into streaming
and just getting that visibility up
and putting out more content.
We're also going to be doing some spaces every Friday.
So I've got an announcement coming out soon.
So myself and Craig will be doing some spaces every Friday,
talk about Web3, Metaverse news,
and also give people a bit of an update on what's going on Nifty Island-wise.
And we're going to have some cool guests come on the content side
and also going to talk to other founders of games and
and um hoping to get some some even some founders of blockchains um on just to kind of talk about
what they think about it's really going to be mostly focused on web3 gaming um and uh of course
like you know ape chain folk get that get those folks involved. Looking to do more stuff on ApeChain as well.
But yeah, we're really excited about other side.
Like, so we did a lot of streaming for each of the different releases.
When they broke the world record, you know, we were there with the community as well in the VC and supporting.
And yeah, really looking forward to, you know, how that's going to look in the summer.
So I think June's the date for that. Correct me if I'm wrong anymore, but I think June is kind of when everybody's kind of just like, you know, waiting for, you know, so 10,000 Mars cats.
And in the ecosystem is also our alien cats.
So those were airdropped for free to two holders.
Art on those is pretty whack as well.
If you go check those out, I'll try to pin some stuff as well onto the Jumbotron or the Megatron in a bit. And Metazoku is also an IP that we purchased.
So it's also affiliated to the founders, MCV initial founders.
They had a sister project that they were going to put out.
And art is probably one of the most complicated.
And happy to argue anybody, it's the most complicated generative collection that's been attempted so far.
So all the women are generative.
All the biker women are generative and all the bikes are generative.
So spoiler, I mean, like handlebars, saddles and all that stuff. that one to really be very methodical in what we're going to be doing with Metazoku.
Art is obviously fantastic.
They put it out at the worst possible time when ETH was being attacked by that Subway
sandwich, that MEV bot, if people remember the Pepe, when Pepe coin kind of went,
you know, wild. And there's that sandwich MEV bot attacking ETH and ETH GUE went up to like a 200
and something for a few weeks. Yeah. So, I mean, they, they still, they decided to still go live
with it, but that was great. It was a great entrance for us to be able to buy it, to buy
MCV off of them and kind of, and take this you know beautiful ip and bring it back
into the community and and and you know re-infuse it with a bunch of more passion and and energy
which we've done um and yeah menazoku i mean there's just it's beautiful it's the only it's
also the only only porsche and harley-davidson have come somewhat close but they're not really
generative what they've done in automotive design. So it's technically also the first automotive design collection that's been
done. And no one's really attempted one since then. And it's very, very, very complicated.
It took them six months to do. They had a designer from Audi,w that does car spoilers and all the wheels of bmw and audi and
also the uh body kits for a lot of bikes like they they had him come in and and help them do um um do
all the bikes and so the character the character artist for mars cats voyage he and and the alien
cats like he did all the female character models um they're on the bikes. But yeah, it's a stunning collection that definitely deserves what we can, you know,
a real good chance at another launch and to have that IP go back out there and, you know,
generate some new fans, you know, grow a community for us as well.
Because only a thousand of them minted,
there's actually a bunch of traits that didn't even come up
in the original mint when they had to cut it off.
So there's a whole bunch of traits that people haven't even seen.
There's a whole bunch of one-of-ones as well
because there's just one of those traits out there in the collection.
But yeah, all to say, if you're looking to do a lot of streaming,
we have also a bunch of 2D avatars out that people have been using for their streams.
So if you don't want to show your face and you want to just have your avatar
that's fully face-rigged, you can blink your eyes.
I'll be streaming right after this at 5.30 Eastern time. So if you want to check out my avatar and and see what's like but if you want to
just join up find out you know find out a little bit more about um like you don't even have to
to get the nft if you want to just join the the discord hang out see what we're doing in nifty
and other gaming and ecosystems we're also fully integrated into pixels so if you do get a cat
you can walk around as your
cat in pixels you know check out the world we even have that that conor mcgregor strut
animation which is really cool in in pixels and yeah we're going to be doing some some other stuff
in may with pixels as well so a lot more ronin activations too which is really cool but but yeah
we've just been crazy crazy
active we've tried to be as active as possible like as active as you know the um the top top
um collections and and um communities and we're learning stuff all the time we're putting
ourselves out there as much as we can um and yeah if you if you guys want to um also for anybody
that's interested in nifty island, definitely reach out to us.
We do game nights all the time.
We've got one with the Kid Call Beast next week on Tuesday.
Yeah, if you want to have a good time, come hang out with us.
You know, we really do have, I definitely invite you guys to come out.
If you guys want to find out a bit more about Nifty, come out into the Nifty discord to uh um at 5 30 today and we'll we'll have some fun and it'll be cool one of the big things too
that we're and that we're that we're working on that's starting off with palm cats if you look
at the mars cats voyage pin post and i'll i'll put it out to jumbotron as well um and uh this is the
last thing i'll um i did pin it to the top sorry
to interrupt you oh you did okay awesome awesome yeah so that's the next thing that we're working
on i did i did pin yeah oh yeah the palm cats yeah i see it it's there awesome awesome
and um yeah so we have sorry to interrupt no i just wanted to say no go ahead am i ragging
sorry am i ragging no no i can hear you or something i don't know
okay no no i just wanted to i i've been looking quickly um at the collections like the the meta
zoku's i just want to jump in and say like the meta zoku is absolutely incredible i did pin it
to the top i just want to mention that so that people can go and check out that little video
um there's only like six listed from 1,000 at the moment,
starting at like $15, so between 15 and 38.
So I definitely recommend that if anybody's
in the space that don't have one, should go pick one up.
Because I also think they're very undervalued.
I think it's very, very cool art.
And then I just pinned the palm cats,
because I also think that's pretty cool.
I wanted to ask you about that uh win win mint basically um and like how does it work though because if you have the pass you
you said you're giving away a pass in the space how does it work with the passes if you if you
hold a pass can you mint or or what yeah so one so one mint pass means you, you're allowed to mint one NFT.
So it's the equivalent of just being able to mint one NFT. And we've got the details about
the cost and everything in time that's coming out today. So people are gonna be relieved to
see that, that info. Cause I know it's been a few weeks where we've kind of started off the
the whitelist process. That's been very kind of nifty focused and, and we've kind of started off the whitelist process that's been very kind of Nifty focused.
And we've had other ways as well,
like some other ways that if you're not into Nifty
that you can still get a Mint pass is
if you're just also interacting with our posts,
we'll be picking out some people
that are interacting with our posts
to give them a Mint pass.
If you have Island Token, we have a limited amount of mint passes. They're only available in Island Token. So you have to go to the Nifty Island
website and get them there. You can only buy three. So don't buy more than three. Don't even
buy, like don't try to buy 10 and send them to different wallets. We're just going to blacklist you. So please read very carefully like what's in the ticket description and stuff like the Mint
Pass description. So if you do want to do that, just Mint 3 and that's it. And if you are a Nifty
Island, if you have a Nifty Island account, you can have three per wallet, but only two wallets max per account. So technically you can have up to six max. So the other three, if you're
going to buy, let's say as an example, three on the Nifty Island marketplace, and then
you can then the other three can only be earned. And the other ways that you can earn them
is if you're in the top 437 bloomers. this is the currency that's in game in nifty island if
you're in the top 437 people we're pulling five winners every day and we're building up a list
and we're doing airdrops as we go so you might want to check your wallets and and every once in
a while and see if you got one um and um also we're gonna be doing a snapshot soon. So top nine players are going to get two off the bat.
Top 88 after that are going to get one off the bat.
We're also doing game nights as well.
So the one tonight, we're going to be giving some in-passes.
We're also going to be putting out some quests, a few more Twitter giveaways.
I'll be giving out one today too.
If you come to the raids on Nifty Island, so every day there's a raid in nifty island the the
schedule you can find in the mcv discord it's just in the in the pin post in the gaming channel um
so if you go to those there's one going to be given away every single day um that you uh they
go to one of those raids um and they also have some cool other giveaways that they give away out in the,
they've got a captain's wheel.
I'm not going to go into that,
but they've got some other kind of raffle systems and stuff.
And we'll put out some more in the discord.
But yeah, we wanted to make it something that,
it's going to be something that will be given out
to people that we know are interested in the metaverse, if you want to call it that the open game world
movement or like revolution.
Basically the,
the dream of 2021 that we all had about the metaverse and us being able to
access something and, and,
and bring our IP in a fairly easy way is happening and we don't have to pay
$20,000 of land,
which is what people used to do before, right?
So I think Nifty Island, if you're not familiar with it,
definitely get involved.
It's like a precious, precious tool that we all have now
that's making the dreams of 2021 and 2022 possible
in the gaming sense.
And the last way that you can get, and there's only a few spots
left for this, is like if you get a Mars cat off the floor or if you just buy like an extra one,
or if you're new anyways, that also earns you a mint spot. So we're either going to airdrop one
into your account after you do it, or if you want to make sure just open up a ticket
in our discord and we'll make sure that you're you're set up you got the right roles and all
that stuff and we're going to be giving out all the mint details are going to be are going to be
this evening so it might even be out by the time we have game night or just shortly after but
you're going to have all the mint details and stuff.
And all I can say is it's going to be sometime next week,
which is not really the most alpha.
And all that we've also shared about Palmcats
is that it's something that's never, it's the start of something.
It's only the start of something bigger
that's going to happen afterwards.
So after the mint of Palmcats is going to be another,
there's going to be a reveal of what you get.
And there's also going to be an extra surprise utility reveal.
That's going to make it clear what those are about.
So we're doing it with, we're also collabing with Nifty Island on it.
We're also working with other people on it.
That's also going to be revealed shortly.
And it's something that's never been done before in Web3.
So people have attempted some stuff like it, but nobody's actually done it.
But it's really a kind of cool way the like the reveal process with 3d items in and also
interfacing with a game world directly so that's playing around with all that and doing it in in a
way that hasn't been done before um so yeah we're excited about it i mean i think it's worth it's
it's something that when we thought it up it's like damn this is definitely something worth the
we worth putting out there right and um you know i think we've got what it takes to really pull it off and, you know,
make a win-win for everybody that's involved, for Nifty Island, for people that are going to be
playing the game and for anybody that's going to be, you know, involved. I think it's going to be
a massive win-win. But yeah, you'll be happy with the details we'll put out in a few hours. I'll give out three to anybody if you hit the comment.
So bottom right, if you like and retweet that, drop a comment. I'll be handing out three mint
passes from the folks that do that. And I'm also going to give away to each of them um a scale of friends so scale friends um
nft so new mint on ape chain um so a legend nifty island is is has a mint that's going on right now
on blubber uh just want to you know also give him some flowers like new mint um and uh guys planning
so much cool stuff in nifty as well well and i know i've got a sneaking suspicion
that ape chain is kind of the next um the next blockchain that's going to be integrated into
nifty and when that happens i mean it's going to be a like you know massive massive party
but um yeah he's he's already kind of getting himself warmed up right with that stuff and
other cool cool things.
So now that's,
I want to check it out.
that's,
that's,
that's definitely,
cause I know there's been a lot of anticipation from a lot of collections
around,
you know,
from aliens to G's to man,
there's,
there's a,
there's a ton of great chain projects.
And I mean,
a ton that probably don't even know where to start.
And,
you know,
a lot of different,
different people, you know, are really speaking out and like, Hey, yeah, we're ready to help, you know, and help, you know, even if it's just like helping a little
avatars, you know, we had a bogey and, you know, obviously cube, you know, a few, few really good
avatar creators and, and there's some others, others you know that just really kick ass and can
help you know even just just really quick to start out you know and that's and that's and that's
amazing you know that some of that is like you know and we know you know i've been there from
the beginning especially with mars cats pretty early on you know that was you know meeting you
guys and just like feeling you know at home again you know because they're you know, meeting you guys and just like feeling, you know, at home again, you know, because, you know, I've been pretty involved in a few projects.
But, you know, it just feels great.
You know, you're in an environment, you're comfortable, there's a lot of people and you guys are growing.
And then, you know, boom, avatars, you know, boom, you know, and then you're really able to vibe and hang out and just have a blast you know
pretty you know pretty even pretty similar what a lot of us do on you know fortnite and some other
games you know but yeah we were using different assets you know so even you know hopefully you
know we could see a spunky avatar pretty soon created on who you know who would be working on
that but some way ah shit that would be crazy Oh yeah. And the crazy thing too is like,
people don't, people remember this, but, but in 2021, 2022, it was completely normal. Like,
if you didn't believe this, you were considered like, like coping or like you were considered
like stupid or just like out of, out of the, you know, out of the, the of the trend or whatever. But it was considered super normal
for projects to pay $20,000 for Metaverse land for just one. That was considered very
normal. And if you didn't do it, you were a fool, like an absolute fool. So a lot of
people did it and there's other Metaverses that popped up that had it.
So to think now you've got Nifty Island
where you don't have to pay nothing.
You just got to get your avatars in.
If you're on the chain,
it's very easy to have your community integrated
so that when you play the game, it reads your wallet.
They've also got delegation on there,
so it's like super safe.
So you can have like your, all the apes are already integrated too so if you have like your delegated wallet connected to like nifty you play around with your ape you're running around with
your ape on on the island you can build all you got to do is use the blooms which is like the
in-game currency you get from just playing hanging out out with people, doing game nights with your buddies or your community, hanging out.
Use that to upgrade your island.
And then you just keep building off of that.
Keep building more islands, do events.
All the questing that they have on their website too is decentralized.
You can put up a bunch of prizes, say which island people have to go to, a bunch of different
islands.
You can add NFTs onto onto there too tokens whatever um even
like some custom giveaways so that like you know they have to open up a ticket to come to to get
it and stuff like the options are huge so it's like it's crazy like that was considered normal
before and we've got the rare opportunity where now you're at a time where crypto is basically at
its 2020 2020 stage right Where it's still a bit
quiet, a bit of percolation here and there, like early 2021. And we've got the opportunity to be
inside a game world that's free to access. If you're a project, it's a very cheap to integrate.
You just need to make one avatar basically right that's like the bare minimum
from my understanding of integrating into nifty one avatar one generic one bang you're integrated
into nifty access to you know start giving getting people thinking about ip you know what it could
look like a bunch of your avatars like running around shooting people and stuff it's it's really
it's really powerful really powerful and then when when you think of islands that are themed after your IP, your dog, your ape,
even where different NFTs you might have already put into some lore together or whatever,
you can build that there.
And I think what's really important with Ape ape chain and we've stressed it a lot with any
type, any meetings that we've had, like with any kind of like ape chain or Yuga affiliate
people.
And like, even on the timeline, we're talking about it all the time.
Nifty doesn't compete with other side, right?
Other side and Nifty are completely two different animals in my, in my perspective.
are completely two different animals in my perspective, right?
Right.
The other side is going to be this like massive, massive open game world
where it might not be as open as we think.
It might be just like very much like a, and that's not a bad thing, right?
They're going to have a very, you know, high quality.
It's going to be very, you know, high quality,
controlled access potentially
it might even be public
experiences as well for most people
it's really themed on the IP
and it's to really carry
the IP that they've
that they own
and kudos to that
Nifty Island is a very different thing
it's more of like a roblox
right anybody can just build whatever they want any ips can go in you know any any avatars that
you want to there's no no moderation right except for like if you've got like you're starting to
upgrade upon like you know upload a bunch of pokemons and stuff they're obviously going to
take those down and they progressively like take down and moderate
stuff that's on there. But you can bring in any avatar you want and start bouncing around this
world and start building out some IP in that world, right? And with streaming, you could broadcast that
out. You can invite people over, do some quests. You can even launch your own NFT project as well
through that game world and through the marketing and through the distribution
that they've already got in that tool.
It's really powerful, right?
So I think it should be clear that Nifty doing well could not take away anything from other
side doing well because they're completely different platforms for, I think, a very
completely different purpose and, I think, a very completely
different purpose and goals, right? So I'm happy to see that there's starting to be some movement
where ApeChain integration Nifty is likely going to be possible very, very soon. And that's going
to open up a lot of things. Lots of 3D stuff is coming in on ApeChain. Like, they're ahead of the curve.
They're very much 3D first on a lot of stuff that they're doing.
And why not enable them to have access to it, like, right away?
Like, why wait for some other thing that nobody knows if they're even going to have access to, right?
If they just minted a 3D collection, nobody knows if you're going to be in other side, what that's going to look like, how
else you can grow into that.
It's not open for everybody necessarily.
So why not give people in ApeChain a place that they can start building now and then
start building better partnerships with Nifty and other side?
That's the right way to do it, right?
And I think that that's starting to happen now.
And it's awesome to see.
So I think you're awesome to see so i
think you're gonna see a summer full of like gaming right like web3 gaming i think this summer is gonna
be um a really good spot to to to be in spending some time so hope i haven't put everybody to sleep
no no that's great yeah no there i was i was gonna just jump in and
say yeah like there's many great metaverses they're all going to have very very much their
own purpose you know from you know you know a sandbox for devs to cook things like to cook
whatever they want from ai to you know the vc, like I would say, like a Decentraland, whatever they're
planning on, you know, to, you know, Nifty Island to other sites, you know, they're all
going to definitely have their own purpose.
That's why, you know, the general term for it is, you know, just our metaverse, you know,
it's just like not, you know, my, oh, that's my, you know, it's just a generalized, you
know, statement.
But no, that's great.
You want to tie in anything else, Josh?
I'm back.
I'm back.
Sorry.
I had issues.
I had to send Osi message on Discord.
I sent Shiba message.
I was like, what the fuck's going on?
JB, I'm sorry about earlier.
I was like, something's wrong.
And I reset my router and everything.
I was like, what the fuck now? Why must this happen now then i realized i had my vpn on so did you um that's all that now
i'm back um sorry jb you didn't put anyone so repeat all that so i have to repeat all
fleshy knows most he best know most of this you know it's not all
no i just want to jump back in and
say yeah what you've done jb is pretty impressive like i can't wait uh to for the palm cats um i
did miss some of the some of it so i'll have to go and listen back um but yeah no they like they
look super cool and i'm i'm very i'm super excited for for gaming and web3 gaming um i just recently saw
that they said you know people are kind of going back from the whole pay to earn thing or pay you
know for the for that which i think is kind of a good thing because we were speaking me and tater
we were talking yesterday and if it's if you're grinding for a token drop uh it's different than playing a game
where you are actually just want to go play and just have a good time and have fun with your
friends uh where it's not just like a grind um yeah like this i want to get like into back into
off the grid but i feel like yeah everybody says they they get old but i mean
man i i just don't feel like i want to be all that so competitive all the time uh when me when
we play fortnite it it's already very competitive uh like there's some very good players out there
and it's fun uh it's satisfying uh like first-person shooters is very satisfying
because you actually need skill and to be able to aim,
to be able to kill people and get the kill and stuff.
So it's a very satisfying,
you know, it feels very satisfying when you do well.
And when I started playing Fortnite again,
I was like, damn, this is actually very fun
compared to other games that I've played.
Like, I mean, I'm a huge Dota fan, that's a different thing there's that's team based where i mean other games as well but that's different yeah that's a whole different style i
mean that takes just like a thousand plus hours just to learn the game where you know a first
person shooter game it's very simple you just run around and shoot people so with like nifty or whatever i mean obviously nifty has all other all other kinds of
gameplay styles which i didn't excel at necessarily but there's people that that's really
good at at you know the foot races and and all that other stuff i did pretty well one time i was
on marcus's island for like three four hours and i ended up
getting like first because i knew i could do it i figured out like this little shortcut thing and
ended up getting getting the top place and i ended up getting a feather frogs nft from it so
uh that was pretty cool and then yeah no nifty i see nifty also added fishing is the fishing
or the fishing is live tomorrow, I think?
I don't know if you spoke about that.
Yeah, it just went live today.
Yeah, and it's just the start of their kind of,
their, like, resource-based mechanics.
So if you guys are into, like, what's it called?
Animal Crossing, or even Paglia.
If you guys know Paglia, the new game that came out,
you can hunt animals and chop wood and stuff so they're also integrating a
a resource um system into into nifty um so fishing is the first one it's just like the very big in
like the very start of like what they're going to be doing so you can have like bait on your island
and then people can go to your island and they don't have to buy bait because it's pretty
expensive so someone gets it it costs quite a bit of blooms.
And when you're on their island, you can pick up fish and each fish you can trade in
to the fireplace and get some more.
There's like a trader there.
You can trade them the fishes in for more blooms, right?
So people can go onto your island and generate a really good amount of blooms
and that's converted to island token as well
after each cycle, right?
So that's also an important piece of that.
But it's also targeting people
that if you don't want to go around
shooting people or doing races,
then you can just fish, right?
You can just do fishing
and you can also start interacting
with the resource mechanism that's coming out.
Right. And that's what I love, too, about the Web3 game side of things like off the chain is off the grid is another good example where, you know, it's a really good game.
It's a really good polished game. But for sure, it's like it's it's a bit it's a bit like Apex.
You want to have maybe another mode. Right. That you can go in to kind of change things around a bit. Because when you're constantly doing like three people going in a game,
it can get a bit old sometimes, right? But at the same time too, right? It's like you're at the
start of like Web3 gaming, right? Like you're at the very, very start. Like imagine what DeFi
looked like, you know, before. It probably looked like junk, right? But, you know, if you're there, you're experimenting with this early tech, there are rewards, right?
Like NFTs too, same exact thing.
There are rewards for you to be there early.
You're going to get bruised.
You're going to get beat up.
But, you know, you're going to reap the rewards, right?
So that's kind of also what I'm thinking about it, too, it's like you're part of like this early tech that not only on the financial rewards, but the experience rewards like are way more than any kind of financial rewards you could get out of it.
Like being part of these communities, you know, going after these goals together and, you know, doing some pretty legendary shit together.
It's freaking awesome, man.
It opens up so many doors for people.
Like just even the other day, like, and I know people,
not many people, it's kind of like a 50-50 on if you like the guy or not,
but Mario Nalfal, right?
There's like a few of us that are getting asked, you know,
to go and talk on their podcast.
And like, I've been up like almost 10 times now,
like on the Mario Nalfal live stream podcast, just talking about web3 gaming um things like that right so it's you know
but we're still early right like everybody here like I know that if you're gonna stay active for
the next few years in 2026 everybody here is gonna be a massive massive pillar of like web3 right
like that's just how it's going to be, right?
Like you don't see it now necessarily sometimes
or it's maybe already like that for you,
but that's how it's going to be.
Like you just have to get ready for it.
But putting in the work now
is how that stuff happens in the future, right?
So yeah.
So even if things aren't perfect,
Nifty Island is certainly not perfect, right?
But damn, man, like it's got all the good foundations.
Like all the best communities, the NFT, all the best Web3 communities, which are NFT communities are integrated.
And a bunch of people that are active in the game, it's all a bunch of like, you know, some of the most active community people in those NFT communities, right?
of like you know some of the most active community people in those nft communities right so it's
bringing in together like all i think the some of the better or more active people and more creative
people in in those communities and putting them into a game world right where they can just create
do a bunch of stuff and these guys have insane amount of runway too like so much runway and the
first team unlocks are like a year from now a year
and a half from now or something so there's like lots of growth um and even for for investors and
stuff like they put out um they put out the white paper after tge like investors aren't going to get
anything for you know way long like you know i think it's like two years away from now or something like that. So, um, lots of growth and, and people don't have to worry too much about the
unlocks and stuff for the next, you know, few years. Right. So it gives a lot of confidence
to the community and people that are, um, you know, token holders and stuff that, you know,
there's, uh, um, you know, a good amount of, uh, um, you know, work that, that won't get distracted by any of that type of stuff.
But yeah, it's really good, man.
And I definitely recommend everybody check out Nifty and what's going on.
And last thing about Marscats, if you want to be part of, you know, front, front row seats to a lot of this stuff and, and, and contribute, grow,
become, you know, grow as a creator grows.
If you want to get into streaming or even like spaces and stuff like that,
we'll be doing some shows every week now on the metaverse,
metaverse and web three gaming. Definitely come check us out.
Come hang out in the community first before you, you dive in.
If you don't want to get the NFT yet,
you want to just get your toe,
you know,
put a toe in,
come into the,
into the community and,
and,
and see if it's,
if it's for you.
But yeah,
it's definitely a front row seat to a lot of the action that's going on.
And,
you know,
we're gonna,
we're not going to stop working extremely hard.
So lots of playing,
lots of,
lots of playing games too.
Like we've been getting
into a bit of cod as well got this like cat avatar that i'm that i'm uh super happy about so i want to
stream that cat avatar on uh in cod which is pretty cool but yeah mixing it up just trying to
get uh you know better at uh doing different things with streaming um to help people out and but yeah it's it's it's
a it's an awesome adventure and thanks again fleshy for for having me on then yeah um sorry
for everybody that uh had to wait long uh that was a long conversation uh basically just jb speaking
up about stuff but it's interesting uh it's all uh i i love it. That's what my spaces will be about.
I like gaming.
I like NFTs.
I like being with my crypto family.
So I love JB, what he's doing.
He's an extremely, extremely good community leader.
What he's doing is absolutely incredible.
The art that they have is absolutely incredible.
The burn mechanism of the alien cats is pretty cool on Discord.
I don't know if you touched on that,
but maybe you have to come back for part three, it seems,
or for the next episode,
because it seems that there's some other stuff that we can speak about.
But I think we need to get...
I want to speak to Luke, but before we get to Luke,
I don't know if Luke's finished already,
because he's actually a co-founder of an interesting project, which I don't really know much about, because he
never really speaks about it that I know about.
So I would actually love to hear about that.
But before that, I want to say hi to Einstein that's on space, on this stage, I mean.
Yeah, what's up, Flashy?
What's up?
I hope you're happy.
Yeah, I'm doing good.
It's been over an hour already.
So I assume the space is probably going to run
for another hour or two again or three
or until I feel like I'm going to pass out again or whatever.
But, you know, technically I only woke up a few hours ago,
so I'm still full of energy.
So I feel like running around.
I feel like singing a song for everybody
because I don't have a good music thingy,
but I'm not going to do that now,
maybe later as the time goes on.
But before we do that,
do you have a project, sir,
or did you just come up?
Oh, wait, you're part of the pupils thing.
Yeah, I have a pupils team.
I just see you in your profile
okay gg yeah i do appreciate you yeah bitch we're everywhere yeah you can't you can't miss this man
like we're out here as like community uh members in web3 on a continuous basis you know making
connections putting our thoughts out there trying to build not just within you know, making connections, putting our thoughts out there, trying to build not just within, you know, the project that we're working on, but the space as a whole.
I think, you know, Luke's been here consistently over, God, what, two to three years active on spaces, like making connections.
I'm kind of starting like my journey here as like the last couple of months into the space scene, kind of posting my own kind of engaging with communities
but um besides that with uh pupils we've just been uh kind of laying low and i think
as the market is kind of changing reassessing and always you know just kind of developing on
a product that we feel like we want to bring the market. And so I think just being very concise
and like forward thinking about like what we're doing and making sure that we're not overstepping
before we're ready is really our intention and like what we want to do with trying to create a
quality product. So for right now, I don't speak about it too much openly unless people ask me about it I'm more than happy to discuss it's
very lore-heavy story centric focused project we're telling a story that comes
from the creator and founders actual real world trauma and pain and his
triumphs and kind of designing that into a story that he created and
bringing that into uh light and it's going to be i think something really great for a lot of people
to enjoy and get something maybe that isn't quite hit that itch that they may have been looking for
uh in web 3 yet so we're pretty excited about it.
Where are you guys launching the project and how far is, you know,
when meant also,
or do you have any idea?
Nothing concrete, nothing set up.
We do plan to launch on abstract.
Paul is consistently working.
He is always busy IRL with his business and personal
life as well so um that's been something that uh you know with his engagement online if anyone
doesn't know poly pupils is out here uh hosting interviews with some pretty uh awesome people
does weekly spaces with boss uh discussing like story formats and stories within web 3 outside of web 3
stories within business formats and um just a lot of good information so i'm really kind of trying
to push what we aim to kind of focus on with uh what we hope to solve within web 3. we hope to solve a couple problems, but initially the overall idea would probably be to solve the issue of telling a truly story-driven project and making it into a Web3 project and having that be successful at the core of it.
at the you know core of it you know we want to make something that people can enjoy people
you know uh want to spend their time in and not just because it's a financial gain but because
there's more to gain in your really your friendships and your how you're going to
engage with people within the community and through
the project and through the story that we're telling.
So yeah, man.
It looks really cool.
Like how long have you guys been busy with the project?
Like how long have you got it?
And, you know, is there some sneak peeks or I did put in a post up top.
So I assume that has some of the art in it, I guess, what it's going to be about.
So it looks pretty interesting.
Yes, sir.
So the art here on the thread is basically our introduction for what the initial comic is.
So you actually, if you go through our onboarding process that we have through our website you'll actually be able to see this
comment kind of laid out individually and it'll actually get you the discord link to
join the pupils discord and if you go to the pupils home page it should be
we need to fix that um if anyone would like you just dm me um i can give you the pupils uh
url so that you guys can go check that out if y'all are interested it's a super sick
onboarding process that we have um luke could speak maybe a little more about that just to kind
of fill in anything that i'm missing out on um luke Luke?
Hello.
Yo, Fleshy, I don't... Sorry, um...
Fuck.
Einstein, I don't know why you said so much, dude.
I never say anything.
I mean, I was pretty just, like, open, I think,
with how we think about things.
I don't think I was telling too much.
Not too much alpha there, right?
Way too much.
But man, I'm getting something to pin up top.
Fired.
Luke, it's all good, homie.
Love the alpha. Thank you.
It's okay. We won't tell.
Yeah, yeah.
It's definitely also not recorded,
so don't worry about that.
We've been trying to rip out a little bit
for how many days now
flash about this
what's going on here
what are these people
what is the news
what is the scoop
well one of the things is that
we're going to be minting on abstract
and one of the reasons why
I haven't been
so I guess not shilly or just quiet about it over here is because when we do mint, we're actually talking about what the collection size will be now.
Looking at the generations of the art and doing some updates to the art to kind of perfect it and make it something
that we're very satisfied with but as we choose the collection size you know then we think a
little bit about obviously the collection size ties directly into the mint price and i do think
that the mint price will be something that just like other things on ape chain is um is not i
don't know not appreciated maybe so that's why i don't really mention it
over here i mentioned a bit more on the abstract side of things but yeah i mean flesh you talk to
you guys about kind of why we're quiet and the ethos um in regards to what pupils is and what
we already have built um we already have had a game built that i've spent hours playing actually uh the game currently
however is being rebuilt uh because it needed to have web3 functionality to be in the abstract
portal and for people to you know be able to play and be identified by their wallet so it's being
rebuilt for that uh there's already a ton of lore built out i mean the collection's been mostly done for a while but you know always kind of updating and having um like just like just developing it and improving
and then like seeing new collections come out and looking through collections i get inspiration that
i share for certain traits that i feel like pay homage to a lot of the deep things in web 3
and i mean so i touched and then we also have a full comic
that's done and i have a very fun plan for uh our like i don't know when it comes to
collaborations in web 3 i think a lot of people like it's it's shitty you know like the way that
collaborations are done it's like okay maybe we do a twitter space but we'll do an alpha bot and
whitelist giveaway and like like collaborations in that sense, it's just a vampire attack on community.
Like, why am I collaborating with you early on in my project?
Well, at this very moment, if I collaborated with you for pupils, I would say that I'm
giving everyone an opportunity to be part of something great.
opportunity to be part of something great and if I like you and your community then I want them to
And if I like you and your community, then I want them to be part of it.
be part of it but overall like in the broader sense with the NFTs it's like I'm giving them
whitelist because like it's marketing you know it's like trying to take from your community and
we have a very limited number of people here and liquidity attention so it's like there's you know
it's like that's why I say it's a vampire attack. And it's like, it's not like a nice way to put it.
And I know that's not like wag me eat those, but it's kind of just the facts.
Like when you look at things, so we're still like brain.
I think I'm mostly the one doing this.
I talk about it with Paul quite a bit.
And then I believe I spoke about with Einstein, but like a couple of ways to make our collaborations
a little more than collaborations.
And then at a baseline, we'll have collaborations, you know, with other projects,
but then also kind of set up some long-term partners in a sense and what to
do with those is redacted. But, um,
just the way that like arts rolled out and various things with collaborations
will be very fun and innovative that people should look forward to. But yeah, always there's also like like i've spoken about in spaces i think that nfts as a
whole are flawed in the sense that like like aow and spunkies have a good business model that we
touched on yesterday in shiba space like if um you know if nfts are coming to the blockchain if there are more and more projects
that are coming to ape chain or whatever blockchain you know aow can be the way that
they're brought onto the chain because it's a launchpad and spunkies can win however like we're
not launching a launchpad you know so more and more projects come on that's that's competition
for us right which i don't want to look at it as competition, but it is.
Like in terms of just a very limited number of people.
So rather than trying to compete here,
we really strive to figure out what we can do to make this go beyond the current NFT market.
Like say there are, I don't know how many people are active here,
but it's not that many compared to how many projects and how many NFTs there are and the demand of those projects for liquidity and attention to keep it going actively on the timeline and sustain the floor price.
So that's part of the reason or the reason why Abstract.
I mean, there are other reasons why Abstract, but Abstract wants to be the consumer chain and bring millions of people into crypto without them knowing of it like you know seamlessly so that's something that we're trying to figure out is how
do we contribute to that and bring more people in but also like you also have to stay true to like
the shit that people just know and love and nfts like i'm kind of one that looks at things like the
like second collections and a mutation and says that's been played out it's fucking stupid like i don't give a fuck but then fleshy came in and said look i wasn't here
when mutants did that and i missed that like although there are actually still serums out
there like if you got your board ape or you got someone with a board ape and you had an m1 or m2
serum and it hadn't been mutated yet you could do it or if you get a mega mutant serum and you're a
fucking baller but i guess you have to be a baller to do either one of them,
whether it's an M1 and a board ape or a mate anyway.
But I said,
I don't give a fucking flush.
He was like,
look,
it's cool.
And like,
I appreciate that.
And I see like,
sometimes it's not like you have to do something that's revolutionary or
groundbreaking to get everyone's attention.
You just have to do something and add a twist to it and like build engagement
the right way.
And that's also something that, completely transparently like although we have a lot cooking like i'm i've
asked shiba a bit about this and i try i've like i've come to accept that like i actually don't
know exactly what to do when it comes to building hype and getting attention so that's still
something that i need to develop on and we may need to bring someone on the team to do it. But for now, it's just, you know, developing those things on the
back end that make us entirely like we're already confident. Like I look at what we have in terms
of the lore, the passion, the story, the time, the art, and the game. And then a couple other
things that haven't been shared publicly yet and i think that we do have
more than a vast majority of nft projects that's developed but like i still want a little more to
be like it's not like i'm not confident at the moment but like i want there to be more
to know that we're bringing something that's going to bring value to the market
and isn't just another nft project like it's not like i'm an og or anyone that's on a pedestal but
like i feel like just my like my viewpoint and being around for a while like i don't want to
bring some shit to you know i don't want to bring something that's like what everyone else has ever
done so um yeah still some things to figure out but a lot already there. I appreciate, Luke, that us playing Fortnite together and me mentioning something like
that to you actually had a lasting effect on something that you, you know, on your project.
So that's awesome.
Like Luke said, like, I mean, there's a lot of people that's coming into the space that
weren't here for all that that that missed it and me
personally i know everybody's not a fan everybody has different tastes blah blah blah but i love
mutated art like all their stuff even when osai showed me the uh the gutter cat gang they they
also had like a d1 and a d2 and i like those more than the actual art uh i i actually was i was thinking if
i was to win the the board a from the spotlight i was just going to ask them for like just give me
the equivalent in in in macy's uh i know that sounds silly but that's just how i feel uh i i
just i just love it especially the the d2s uh say i i thought o size was a d2 and then i
we started i started actually looking at them because i've never really looked at them because
it's not something i can afford um but i went to go look at the d1s and i was like holy there's
actually some cool d1s as well uh but to be able to do the serum thing i think that's awesome to
be able to have something and then use this one, these two.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm not saying that we're going to do that, by the way.
Just in general, there are plenty of things that people have already done
that just because someone's done it doesn't mean that you can't do it.
I think it's like Simpsons or South Park,
like i think it's like simpsons or south park like every joke ever has been made or like
like every joke ever has been made or something.
something like it's just like you you can do you can do things and it can be inspired or pay homage
to other things in web 3 but like like i don't know there i mean there are certain things that
we would never do because they're fucking cheesy but it's like don't i just don't want to be a
snob and stuck up about it you know and think like, that's overplayed. Like, fuck that. So silly. Like, like, but like, if you're, if like, we were to like, although I say that, like,
you know, we're not going to say we're going to release a clothing line and we're going to create
a metaverse world and do certain things that were like the typical 21, 22 roadmap. And like,
not to shit on someone, if they are doing that, you can do that and do it correctly. But like,
it's really about a sustainable business model and trying to figure out what people outside of this space are going to care about because
although I do want to go beyond it like I still see people that are doing things and like I don't
want to be critical of them but my question is always like you're doing that right and like
people are excited about it here you have a community rallied around it but people here are
very limited.
And depending on market conditions, people can come and go very quickly because not everyone's life and their, um, their resources, like not everyone has the privilege of being able
to spend time or money here.
And like that could change for anyone or for many people quickly.
So like what, like my question is like, yeah, you're doing that.
But like, what are you doing that people outside of this tiny niche of people are going to give a fuck about and like i don't ask
that to be critical and because i'm on a high horse and i have it figured out like i ask that
because i don't have it figured out and i i don't know i have i have this feeling in my balls as i
like to say unfortunately this is recorded and we're being kind of serious at the moment but
like i've just had a feeling in my balls that like something's going to come that can really align a lot of projects in the space and communities
and like give us all um give us all a bit of like an exit not an exit but like give us all an
entrance into something beyond what we currently know and who knows maybe that's ape chain maybe
that's abstract I actually um spicy Tina and another woman that I met in Paris.
And then I saw both of them in Denver, actually, when I met them and they asked me what I was doing.
Um, it was so funny. I just started talking to them cause they were two beautiful women at the convention.
And I was just like standing on the side of everything and they were there too. And I said, what's up?
And then once we were talking, they were like, Oh, we work for ape chain. I was like, cool. And, was like, cool. And they asked me what I was doing.
And I said, building a project on the abstract.
They said, they asked why abstract.
I said, because abstract wants to go beyond Web3 to consumers.
And they said ApeChain wants to do the same thing.
But the way ApeChain does it is a little differently.
Like ApeChain wants to have like collaborations
with influential people in Web2 and then bring them in.
And I don't know that it's supposed to be
a seamless on-chain experience.
But anyway, we're just kind of, I'm just kind of rambling now but yeah i hope that i gave
you guys a better idea and i'm sorry i interrupted you fleshy no it's all good i was just mentioning
um you know that there is some cool tech out there that people miss that that i mean not that to say
that you were going to do that but new stuff is obviously also great people are also always innovating people are
building new stuff um like i'm learning new shit all the time i'm learning old stuff because i'm
new and there's a lot of people that still need to get on boarded that's going to experience all
these things so i also think there's a lot of issues still with um with crypto and stuff um but i mean that's a conversation for another time
um i think there is better ways we need to find better ways to onboard people
more fairly uh for one so you know i i i wish we had uh flipping anti-botting tools and just
like that so that people can mint stuff fair because you know stuff that would you know there's obviously mints that went down oh that's i don't want to talk
about that but that's on the back end actually but um well fuck i don't know what devs are in here
no there there is something that we're working on that is just on the back end it's actually an idea
that i had a while ago i forget what it, but an idea that could be very innovative.
And like, like, obviously I want to do things that go beyond the space, but I think that like
Uncle Mac and his team and Rugger Dev, and then like AIOW has proven this and Bearish over on
the abstract side, like when people can develop things that provide value or is just something innovative
then you kind of go from being like an nft project that's just like cute and fun like everything else
to like establishing yourself as a builder and that's something that we aim to do so like there
are certain things that we have the idea of and then we have a couple connections like
einstein and i met a dude recently in some of our spaces
who's just hanging out trying to get into web 3 a dev from web 2 and like we're also not like we
haven't minted yet and there's been quite a bit spent on various things for the project so like
it's very bootstrapped you know and we don't have an in-house dev per se at the moment but
like anyway so we're there are a couple things that we're trying to work on but it's i like
botting is like why the fuck is anything bought it nowadays like if you know that you have a hyped
mint that's going public like like like you either know that i mean maybe like you know minted there
are various things where maybe people get it like if they people say like oh i got it and i just
clicked but like we've seen things over time where, there's a fucking specific group that got like 20, 30% of one of these collections.
I was supposed to be a free mint coming to abstract that everyone was really hyped for.
And I think this really killed the collection as a whole abstract universe because someone
literally minted like 800 out of 3000 of them or some shit.
And like, as a founder, that's doing a free mint that has to be pretty um i don't know pretty
like demoralizing is that the word like it just takes away like it just takes away your morale
you know so anyway that project i think died but it just shouldn't be a thing like if you have a
hyped mint that you know is already profitable on secondary like you shouldn't be hurting the
people that bought in as soon as they could on secondary. Like say that I have a pupils is hyped.
You guys meant on whitelist and you guys decide to sell good for you.
You made profit.
Then the people that bought on secondary, like I shouldn't be disservicing them by letting
someone who's bought in my project just because they want to flip it.
Like there should be some sort of process to either prevent bots or do like another
first come first serve that are only wallets that you
put in like i i have an idea that's specific but like i'm not gonna say it because we're trying to
work on it but like anyway i just think that there's it's flawed for a couple reasons but
oh fuck sorry jb if you just dropped um i'll shut up if you want to say whatever your hand was up
for bro but yeah anyway yeah no it's awesome like Like, I think the botting issue is a big
problem, for sure.
It's only caused issues.
I mean, people have lost so much money.
Just look at, like, obviously, when I
got into crypto, it was on trading
tokens and stuff. And I saw what
MEVBOTS did. And obviously, on the timeline,
just MEVBOTS, like,
wrecking people on trades.
It's sad. Like, people lose a lot of money um in in
a second just because of some some sketchy and and i'm not a fan like everything should be fair
there is some devs in here for sure so guys build anti-bot tools or anti-bot platform or
fucking something brando was doing something cool I think he said he was linking emails.
But I mean, that could also be still iffy
because, I mean, you can have multiple emails,
multiple wallets, and blah, blah, blah.
But I mean, I think that's a good approach already
to have a fairer distribution off of a launch.
So we'll see how Brando's launch goes once that goes live. But Luke,
I do appreciate you speaking about it. Like, I can't wait. Like, obviously, I think you're a
great guy. Einstein, I don't know you too well. I've been like on one of your spaces. But I'm
super excited to see what you guys have planned. Like, and Luke, it's not just you. I know you've said in the beginning
the whole underappreciation thing.
It's not obviously
only on AppChain. It's everywhere else.
JB was up here.
Like I said, he's such an amazing leader,
builder, and
you can go buy a mask at
Wait, what about
underappreciation?
No, you just uh
you said something in that line so it's been so long ago i can't remember exactly what it was but
um it's uh undervalued sorry undervalued uh was what you said and like you can go buy a mask cat
now for like 42 as an example and it comes with like an awesome community and a great leader that's here streaming,
doing everything he can to expand his community.
And literally you can get in for like $40 and it's great art.
It's cats.
I love cats.
So I might be biased.
I have a lot of cats.
It's in my bio.
So whatever, I have five of them, two hours of sleep, like right in front of me.
Oh, yeah.
The one is my mic and the the one is yeah by mike and
the other one is next to me so um yeah and then there's uh like i said the metazoku's i'm gonna
obviously he's not here anymore then jb maybe had to jump off maybe that's why his hand was up so
yeah i think i think he had they also have that space going or the nifty island event thing going
as well that he was he was kind of alluding to.
Yeah.
I do want to chime in and say,
like,
I don't know what exactly you were alluding to,
maybe something from a different project or a different conversation that we
had.
But like,
I do think that many things that should be like,
I don't know.
I don't know that they should be overvalued higher,
but like,
I do see that people that are building certain things like
them and their projects do seem to be undervalued because and i don't know if it's it reflects on
the space per se or like people in the community here and what they appreciate and what they value
or if it reflects on like the builders who aren't driving that attention and like making the most of
what they're building you know because like like you kind of owe it to your community not only to build but also to highlight that and like you need to empower
your community and that's why an important like a community manager is someone that's a very
important role and one of the homies said this in the space recently mikey g he was like most mods
are just or most community managers are just glorified mods because they don't actually
like the community manager should
not just be like moderating and engaging with the community they should be managing the community's
like effort and attention to the project to align with the project's goals and they should also be
like paying attention and conveying certain things that the community are expressing or doing back to
the project so that there's a harmony and synchronicity between the two.
So like as a project, like Doodles, for example, I think we were talking about it recently.
I think Shiva was mentioning them.
And I know that I mentioned them a few times.
And there are other projects as well, of course, that have done amazing things that go beyond the NFT space or they've created amazing things, but they're incredibly undervalued.
And that can reflect on the space maybe.
But I feel like ultimately
like i don't actually i don't fucking know because we're a bunch of idiots and degenerates
oftentimes like but you know like i don't i feel like i'm losing the sentiment a bit but i feel
like plenty of people don't go for like what's like what's the best in terms of product like
they go for what has the most attention and its speculative value. So like, so whether it's like the space, not appreciating things or like doodles and these
other people just not kind of leveraging it enough. I'm not trying to criticize doodles
specifically. They're amazing and legitimate in web three. And I also just wanted to mention that
like, sometimes when I talk about these certain things that I feel like are flawed or like need
to be improved in web three especially as it relates
to pupils like people have thought that I'm expressing that like it's too hard or like
like I'm expressing grief but like I don't know I feel very driven and excited about things
and like just being part of the space and community every day I feel like helps me learn more and more
and it's like I don't know it's not it's not at all that I and more. And it's like, I don't know, it's not, it's not at
all that I'm expressing that like, it's too difficult and building is hard. It's just like
me expressing my thoughts. So there's no, if anything, I would say that, um, that like just
as a whole, just as a team, especially myself and then Paul as well, just, just overall, like our
strategy, we need to be more, uh, we just need to be more focused on the community building. And I also want to mention to everyone in here that, I don't know, I just try to
be chill and lighthearted and like not chill. But of course, if like multiple people are asking me
why I haven't shared anything, then I should. So like, I just wanted to say, I don't want anyone,
I was thinking about it just a second ago, as I was talking about things like, oh, yeah, these are
people that are my friends, and I'm now close to and like obviously we're in spunky or maybe another community
together but as pupils builds and I spend more of my time there and develop it and I think that
I'm going to do great things that everyone a part of is going to a part of it are going to benefit
from and hopefully people outside of pupils will benefit from like I want these people in there so
I just want to say a quick but that was a long-winded apology that like me not mentioning pupils before isn't because i don't want you guys in it it's
just because like kind of building the community is hasn't been the focus but it really needs to
be and i need to shift to that but like trying to develop things and have a good product
is what i you know what has been the focus so anyway i'm gonna shut up again i feel
bad that the homie left with his hand up while we were chatting but he's gone now so i guess you
can't i can't let that linger no he's all good he's all good so we do have a couple hands up
before we get to that he'll have to be he'll get back to to maybe, I assume he'll be here for part three.
So it's all good.
Or for the next episode.
I'm still deciding if I'm just going to do like episode one.
And then for the rest of the year, if I'm still around, do part three and onwards.
And then my next year, do episode two.
Anyway, I don't know.
everybody can vote in the comments maybe i think i mean i know that you said you're doing episode
Everybody can vote in the comments.
Maybe I have a bit of a poll.
one and i jokingly responded to you when you sent it to me and i was like dude fuck you like i'm not
one of the guests i'm not showing up so i don't know if there were like because you know you i
know that you want you said at least that you wanted to have me on but of course you can't
have everyone so maybe once you like hit all those people that you wanted to have on
then you can move on to episode two.
And like, cause you did everyone once for episode one and then you, anyway, no pressure, that's an idea.
But if you do the episode one for the year, that's pretty funny.
And you will be here.
Otherwise there's no point in us being here cause I only want to be in long-term things.
Yeah.
If everything works out that way,
I just got to follow back from AIOW.
So you never know.
Like I said the other day, Shiva also said,
you know, if I get out there and all that,
you know, I might be able to get a badge maybe one day.
So that's what I'm working towards.
Soon there might be more spaces.
It's just, obviously I'm seeing how things goes it's my second space
and I'm still learning things
aren't perfect yet and whatever
everybody that's here must just go with it
obviously it's going to take time for me to
get to that point where we're going to run
the space smoothly
like Shiba's just here
engagement farming so for most of it
I'm speaking the most
let you run your space get yelled at for not talking in your space year engagement farming so for most of it like i'm speaking the most
let you have run your space get you there for not talking in your space
no it's all good ship i love that you're here i appreciate it um osai uh also you know i appreciate him being here i didn't know i do speak up a lot i should maybe shut up a bit more
um i want to say hi to art and yuki and lucky
i was gonna say let's get to these hands yeah let's go
yeah well i'll go first uh yuki here um thank you for bringing me up uh super interesting so far
uh very excited for the mascot why as i used to know this uh
this collection when i was uh when i was very young in web3 uh they did collabs with collections
that i was in so it's nice to see that some of this uh middle-sized collection uh survived the
bear market and are still active in making stuff so i'm very excited for them next week
market and I still active in making stuff so I'm very excited for the meet next week
um second thing I want to to remind everyone to join the poker tournament tomorrow with the
poker HN poker club uh sponsored by Spunky not a punk club or the trenchers typical tiger tiger, gorilla, dash kids, bounty hunters, or account a board on a real cool legend, cute puffins,
OGPFB, Skelet friends, and gnomes. Yeah, I think I've got them all. So I've done my, my job as a,
as a sponsor, really, um, they're really helping us, uh, providing the prices. Um,
and, uh, hopefully we get more every week
and we can move to two tournaments a week.
So everyone is welcome.
It's free, cross-gen, cross-project.
Just come have fun.
The tournament usually lasts about two and a half hours.
I streamed the final tables on OVI.
And I think if I have it in me tomorrow I'll make a I'll make a
space or join the space pre-existed if I can get invited in one and have the last tables commented
on there last thing I have been here for an hour and a half now, and the word still hasn't been given for the spunky quest, so AIO quest.
So if we could have the words, many people are waiting for that.
I was going to mention that. I was going to say the word, but I was going to mention to Fleshy before I spoke for way longer than my throat would have liked me to have spoken.
I was going to ask for it. I was like, you know what? Fuck it. These would have liked me to have spoken I was gonna
ask for it I was like you know what fuck it these people have to wait to hear me speak to get the
word so GG I just did that because I figured that I've been holding out on spreading the word of
people so long I was gonna leverage the spunky point the ARW point system into that so yeah I
also wanted to mention it before because I didn't know about the word i didn't even know
that there was going to be a word so my apologies everybody i didn't know about the word like a
half an hour ago um but then luke started going off and his little thingy and i didn't want to
interrupt him um so but the word is luke so there you guys go so you know i want to keep you guys
here longer even though the space has been long you know fuck fuck want to keep you guys here longer, even though this place has been long, you know, fuck it, whatever.
Anyway, if you want to leave, you can leave.
Now you got your word.
That's my favorite word in the world.
But before Uncle Mac goes, Art needs to speak up and Lucky.
And then Uncle Mac.
Hey, how you doing, Fleshy?
We'll see everybody on stage and in the audience.
Sorry about that, Fleshy. I and everybody on stage and in the audience. Sorry about that Fleshy.
I had a meeting at 3.30 my time.
So I came in, but I had to run out real quick
and the meeting just went an hour long.
But I'm glad I'm here.
I hope I didn't miss a whole bunch of stuff though.
It's not a problem.
And I just want to say it's not about shilling.
I just got a DM from Einstein.
Einstein, this is not a shill space.
Luke was the same thing.
That's not what my spaces is about.
It's not about shilling.
It's about people just talking about where they come from,
what brought you here, people that I enjoy being around with,
what they're busy with, and their projects.
Just speaking about their
projects um that's why i'm bringing different people from different chains uh there's different
projects everywhere that deserves all the love um so i i just appreciate you guys speaking about what
you're doing because i didn't know anything about pupils really and i wanted to ask Luke earlier, and I was like, no, I'm going to wait until the space
so that I can hear what it's about. Because I looked on the profile the other day, and I saw
the pinned post, and I was like, oh, this looks cool. And I read through the thread,
and I was like, oh, this seems interesting. After Luke said that he's spoken about the project that
he's busy with, but he doesn't speak about it ever.
So it's not even like a conversation that we have.
So I didn't, I never think about it.
Just, you know, to be honest, it's literally just,
that's the honesty about it.
So it's awesome art having you here.
It's fine if you're, if you're, if you're late,
I still appreciate you coming up.
You know, I wanted to ask you obviously about the the the froglings and
what you guys are busy with maybe and if you wanted to speak about some of that because i
don't know much about your history or how the whole um froglings and all that started um i
didn't invite duckman i know it's a bit late i did start this space a little bit later. I'm not sure yet for what times the space is going
to be so that I can obviously be accommodating to more people. But I mean, even for me, it's
almost 12 o'clock at night. But that's just what it is. Most of my homies or my family, as you guys are, pretty much are in America.
And I mean, Luke is like nine hours behind me.
Osai is like six hours behind me.
And I want to be with you guys.
So I'm basically almost all the time during the night.
And for most of the time, I sleep during the day.
I feel like a vampire.
But I do get some sun now and then when I wake up early enough,
I can get a little bit of sun on my balcony.
So, you know, I can get some vitamin D.
Yeah, that joke was made already, so GG.
Lucky, what's up?
Before we get back to Art, I just wanna say hi to Lucky,
sorry, and Uncle Mac, and then Art, you can go ahead.
Yeah, hey, I was just, you know, I wasn't going to be inquiring about the word too,
but I also, you know, I was on the top 10, and for some reason, my wallet got disconnected
for about four days, and so I wasn't getting my multiplier and uh I'm down because I was right behind gambler
and uh and then I I didn't even realize I didn't catch it for about four days so
I'm I'm still in no don't even don't even worry about that I would say just open I mean tell them
that Luke sent you and that he hopes that they can take care of you because I think they will
you hold your spunkies you know I think you should be taken care of not that I matter that they can take care of you, because I think they will. You hold your spunkies, you know? I think you should be taken care of.
Not that I matter that much, but I do.
Let me just quickly jump in here.
Just open a ticket.
Yeah, just open up a ticket.
Don't mention Luke's name,
because it won't do shit for you.
But yeah, we'll take care of you.
All right, Shiva.
Appreciate that.
We'll do more than mentioning Shiva, dude.
Fuck that guy.
Also, oh, now I'm throwing off a little bit oh i did
i uh got i moved some spunkies around so i could have two wallets is there still a an extra wallet
that we could hook up to that is that still the thing there's no active multiplier above 300 right
now so 300 is max
One wall is best to do it. We want to add the second feature probably won't happen until after the first season's over
Uh, gotcha gotcha. Yo, who's who's talking right now? Who has over 300?
What?
Goodbye. Who's talking? I can't sit in those fucking spaces of running dude
Lucky how many spunkies do you have oh no i
i don't i don't have 300 i have over 100 i moved i moved some to another wallet but i think i'm
gonna move them back now just so that i so that i don't miss any multipliers but uh yeah the well
no you just you just gotta um i mean you can set up assuming you have more than 10 you can set up
the aiw pro or premium or whatever and then you'll you can, I think there's some math where if you move them around to multiple wallets, you get a better bonus.
Got it, got it.
I'm not sure.
But there's no bonus over five, which like Shiba said.
Okay.
All right, man.
Yeah, but that's why I came up here.
Definitely wanted to talk about the word.
I know that I actually got in here a little bit late and didn't know that it had been said. So that's why I hopped up here. I was trying to get all the points for the spunkies and I love this project. I think that's why I've gone pretty hard on it like you, Luke. I don't hold as many as you do. You were definitely one of the kings of the spunky space. But I see Fleshy's got a one-on-one.
I hold a one-on-one.
He's sitting on top of my hat there.
But I'm going to keep supporting.
Glad to come up here.
And I've got to talk to the family.
So I appreciate you guys letting me speak.
And you guys have a great day.
It's a pleasure having you here.
I am a fraud. It's not my one-off-one. It's a pleasure having you here. I am a fraud.
It's not my one of one.
It's Luke's.
But I do have permission to use it.
So I'm flexing his one of one for, and I'm representing the Spunkies because like you
just said, it's a great project.
I actually wanted Chiba to also speak about some of it, but he's been on so many interviews
lately.
I don't think he wants to do it again i actually thought we must just record it and then when
people ask him we just play the recording um so that he doesn't have to to do all that so uncle
mac it's been a while i can't wait to hear your voice how will everybody say about the bed hey how you doing everyone i hope that came through clearly i've been this is a builder folks
hey what was that
i think he was trying to say it's loud.
That's the intro of a real builder, folks.
Did you hear me?
I heard you.
I didn't.
Say it one more time.
I said that's the intro of a real builder, folks.
Yeah.
Actually, I do have the return of a real builder folks yeah uh actually i do have the i do have the it's the return of the
mac intro um but you just you guys just kept talking about the word and what the word is and
i'm like there's only one word and it's uh the bird is the word um but yeah nice nice to hear
everyone's voices nice to be up on a stage again i don't know how to do this uh fleshy you're doing
a great job uh nice to hear your voice as well i'm glad i'm glad to have you here it's been a while yeah like you said um yeah it's my second
space now i'm trying to do this whole host host thing it's going to take me a while we'll get
better we'll get uh we'll get there uh i love that uh little song that you played family guy
is one of my favorites so every time when people ask what's the bird, I'm always like bird is the word. So yeah, there's that gif.
I also, I like first thing the gif.
It's just, you know, if you know, you know.
Uncle Mac, while you're here, I actually thought people were talking about like great tech and building stuff.
And you guys, I thought you guys were building like a minting platform, to be honest.
But that's an idea. i'm not a dev so uh
like the when when deterministic mining minting platform um you know uh when when when will it
still be this year or what's the timeline on that um you know and then i have some other ideas i
actually wanted to speak to rugged if um i I had some interesting thoughts when it comes to launching some NFTs,
and I would have liked to ask him what his thoughts are
and if something like that could be done on a smart contract.
So yeah, I hope to see him around sometime.
I don't know if I can just hit him up or if you can just ask him if it's fine,
if I DM him or if we can have a chat in Discord or whatever.
That would be cool um that could also be an idea of something that you guys could try if it would work
or you know just give me an advice on or whatever yeah man just drop him a message uh he i think he
posted a while back he said he's always got five minutes for everyone like you you can always message
him about something uh i think the caveat the follow-up to that bit of message that he posted that time was,
but we can't build everything.
So that's kind of the answer to your other question, which was, you know,
when deterministic mining in platform, we can't build everything.
We're building the things that we're building.
We're building a lot of things that are all going to kind of roll out one after another.
But yeah, it could be built we could build it we might get around to building it um but we're building other things
in the meantime but yeah drop him a message about your other stuff and he'll send you in the right
direction or maybe you're already having ideas that we're already having that generally seems
to be how it goes like someone says oh this would be cool and like uh yeah shush wait that's literally the thing we're doing right
now um so yeah it could be one of those that's awesome yeah i know you said you know you guys
can't do anything uh if there's any devs um that want to do that you know uh you can put my name
in the credits it's all good uh for the idea uh but, I think there's a lot of stuff that could still get built.
If anybody wants to chime in before Art goes ahead,
I just want to hear what he has to say about the whole Froglings.
Because me and Osai, we were speaking about,
I know Darkman is on the team,
on the team, but like, I think art is the artist behind the Froglings.
but I think Art is the artist behind the Froglings.
Is that correct?
No, I'm not the artist, but I am the inspiration behind it.
Like I traced it out and did everything that needed to be done before my friend
who's the artist worked on it.
So I'm not the artist.
Okay.
Awesome.
Okay.
No problem.
I wasn't sure. I just thought that maybe is this the case because
of my name because of my name well maybe i mean i'm not gonna say that wasn't um you know i thought
you know but yeah tell me about like like when where did the froglings come from like uh yeah
i'll let you know so the froglings came um i think it
started getting designed in august and this was like alongside darkman um but it came from obviously
the inspiration came from the winners of pepe right um so basically in august um we reached
out to darkman and we were like oh we want to actually like we want to build something we want
to build something at that time we were not on Ape Chain yet we're kind of looking at different other chains or like oh what
could we do we looked at bass and everything and um Darkman was like he just kind of like moved on
like kind of moved on and worked through on his own and was like okay I want to go see what Ape
Chain is about came to Ape Chain and was doing this stuff in Ape Chain then came over and was
like hey I think we should drop it on Ape Chain and I was like stuff in Ape Chain. Then came over and was like, hey, I think we should drop it on Ape Chain. And I was like, oh yeah, it's a good idea.
So we started working on the art, sent it back and forth a lot of times, made corrections,
made trades, thought about new trades and whatnot, then gave it to my friend to actually
create the art and bring it to life. And I must say that we were blown away when we saw the art
because we were like, oh my God, this is not what we expected because it just looks super dope but um right
after that we're like okay what do we want to do with this we don't want to just mint it out to
people um charge them a bunch a bunch of money and uh i end up and these people are on our head
like trying to look for um what's next what's next what's next you know how that happens so we decided to move on to the Ape Chain Africa method where we kind of wanted to use the froglings
to onboard people from Africa and other places other works of life we just call it Ape Chain
Africa because that's kind of like demographic we're used to and that's a demographic we know
people from so we did the Ape Chain Africa thing and we decided to release the Froglands as a way to onboard people onto Ape Chain.
To basically bring creators, content creators, and different individuals over to Ape Chain to help grow the chain.
Because we realized the chain was new.
And so we put it out there.
It was a free mint.
I must say we were literally begging people.
Like literally begging people.
Hey, mint this.
Hey, come on.
Rock a Frogland. Come to Ape Chain. Work chain work for a chain and not a lot of people wanted to
do it at first so um the doc might just continue grinding came to spaces telling
people hey we have the frog lens you guys should get the frog lens and not a
lot of people focused on it but I kind of like I kind of like you I don't know
if you guys remember when Vine came out.
I basically opened my phone and I saw the Russ guy had made a post.
It was literally at $5 million market cap.
I put a little bit of money in it.
That boy ran all the way to $500 million.
I was like, oh my goodness.
I took part of the gains that I made and I bought a mutant and I just
did an MBA for um the Froglands in ancient Africa and I was like um let's see let's see if this
approach works because people like when obviously you put a face to things and you show some
commitment um and whatnot so like okay let's let's do this and see what happens and uh from there
Boris from Yuga Labs just kind of like found us and was like, hey, came in the inbox and was like, hey, I like what you guys are doing.
Like, let me spotlight you guys.
And the rest was history.
After that spotlight, everything just started to work out perfectly well.
Everything just started to align for us.
And since then, we've been able to onboard
so much people onto Ape Chain. Just two days ago, we onboarded two new content creators onto OV
that are going to start making streaming for Ape Chain and Froglands and Ape Chain Africa as a whole.
So that's a big win for us. There's a lot of Froglands on the timeline making content and
creating content about Ape Chain. That's a big win for us.
All that kind of stuff just started to work its way and just started to be beneficial for Ape Chain and also beneficial for us.
And as you guys saw, Dakma was awarded that BAYC by Yuga Labs.
And I felt like that was because they kind of see the impact that we are bringing into Ape Chain.
And at this point, it's like Yuga Labs kind of made an investment or Bordes made an investment on us to just keep bringing more and more people in here.
And I mean, I see this as a selfless act because like people know, none of this was a paid mint.
It was a free mint um the
the real the real reason behind why we started in africa and why we wanted to onboard a lot of
people from africa into a chain that's actually loving and caring and has wonderful builders that
just look out for one another it's literally because um a lot of us are from africa here and
you know when it comes to web 3 af Africa has a very, very bad connotation.
And not even Web 3, Web 2 itself, very, very bad connotation
because when we come on spaces, people think, okay,
another person is coming for a giveaway,
or another person is the African prince that came to scam me
or something like that.
So for our part, we started going to all the Tom spaces
and all the other spaces, and we found out that when Africans actually get onboarded onto chains, they are farmed in the sense of like, hey, people are like, oh, yeah, go tap this stuff.
Go play with this stuff before we follow you or before you gain self-worth in the space or something like that.
And people just are looking for the fast win and
all that kind of stuff. So we're like, you know what, we're just going to start doing space classes
where we just have people come on and we educate them on what Web3 is about. Web3 is not only about
you going in people's DMs and asking and looking for a job or looking for a giveaway. Web3 is more
than that. I made it in Web3 and
most of how I made it wasn't by getting a job. It was by hitting a coin there or getting the NFT
that gave me allocation to this. And through that, I was able to make my wealth from Web3.
And I was like, you know what? Let's just try to onboard people here and just teach them the right
ways of how you could come into web three you could learn
you could create you could grow in in an ecosystem grow yourself while you help the ecosystem and it
just made sense to do an ape chain ape chain is six literally six months old right um it's it's
still a baby compared to every other blockchain out there so i feel like anyone that comes in here
and is showing effort and putting in the first foot forward to help ape chain is obviously going
to grow and also help ape chain grow so that's just been our mission just literally bring a lot
of people here to create um to to just uplift the whole ecosystem help other builders along the way
and just get a chain out there there. And it looks like through the
help of everyone in the community, every single person, shout out to Uncle Mac. He added us to
the mine, like literally a week of me getting here. Shout out to James, adding us to like the
mint list. Just a lot of builders showing love to what we have built so far. And I mean, it's just
wonderful to see. So I'm glad that we're here. I'm glad mean, it's just wonderful to see.
So I'm glad that we're here.
I'm glad that we're going to continue to build.
Like I told people, we don't have any promises,
but we're not going to stop building.
Even though we're still onboarding,
we're still going to build for Froglands
and we're still building on our own.
Because I'm a self-taught dev, so I'm just
doing whatever I can to help Apechain grow.
And I know Dakman is doing whatever he can to help ape chain grow and i know dakman is doing
whatever he can to help a chain explode as well this is our literally this is what we eat sleep
like we talk on the phone literally about four or five hours a day and it's literally just to
build for a chance so i'm excited to be here i'm excited to be with all these wonderful builders
and uh i'm gonna i'm just i i just can't wait to continue continue uh building our a chain and see where a chain is in the next six
months because uh i'm i'm waiting i'm waiting for for this place to be a little dubai i'm not
looking for the united states of the blockchain i just need the dubai of all blockchains and i
think a chain could do that yeah that's pretty awesome yeah that's great i do agree with you with you what you said you know
obviously with me being in south africa that's the whole thing why i wanted you guys here and
obviously collaborating with hn africa is just it's not as bad here as people make it out to be. There's a lot of,
it's a lot of misrepresentation of the amazing people
that are here.
People need to see that. And I am so glad that you guys are doing that
and onboarding amazing people.
And ever since last year, when I got into crypto
and i saw
what crypto could do just for me um i was like this can do so much for so many people
and just give people hope especially like the young children and stuff you know that's in these
um in these bad bad spots like i mean i'm gonna say it now yeah i mean people don't like speaking
about it but it is what it is you know i i stay yet again in a very wealthy area. I'm down here in
Cape town, a wealthy area. I'm, I'm not wealthy at all. Uh, but I just stay in a very wealthy area.
It's like almost like a holiday destination. There's houses here. That's like a million
dollars, $500,000, which is absolutely insane when people just think about that kind of money.
And it's not like the same that you would get in America for that price.
It's crazy what you can buy with that.
But there's also extreme poverty here.
There's people living in Shaxtell, and that's obviously all over Africa.
But I mean, if you can get people like that,
because there's good people, I've met these people, I've worked with a lot of these people,
and they also get missed, yes, like Art said, they get mistreated as well. Like, sadly, there's bad
people all over. And in those locations, it's sad, like what those people have to go through and survive,
because there's people out there that wants to make a good living and have a good life.
And there's literally people that will come and take it away from them.
And that's happening on Web3 as well.
That's one of the things I said earlier, where crypto has a long way to go.
But I mean, sadly, there's a lot of bad actors out there.
But I mean mean how do you
how do you stop that that's the question how do you stop all these scammers and stuff um
it's not something i have spoke about but i made a mistake a few months ago um and i got scammed
i haven't mentioned it really to anyone um because i felt embarrassed that i made a silly
mistake and that's kind of put me where i am now um but you know whatever i i didn't want to speak
about it because whatever it's my own fault um i should have known better uh but in over a year at
least uh it was my first mistake and and i won't do it and i know now next time to yeah dude just double check make
sure what you do uh and stuff so now i didn't click a drainer link uh but yeah that's not what
it was so at least i didn't lose any of my precious nfts because that's what i care about the most
uh is my is my nfts um but yeah art i love it it's awesome what you guys are doing
uh i see you got your hand up
i don't know if you want to mention something else hey uh fleshy just gotta just gotta run
to another meeting real quick but i'll i'll be i'll be right back if you guys are still here
uh it should be about 30 to 45 minutes but i'm glad i got to speak on your space today was just
a hectic day for me but um on your next space i'll be here longer i'm glad i got to speak on your space today was just a hectic day for me but um
on your next space i'll be here longer i'm sorry for this it's 100 fine yo art
sorry to interrupt fleshy i just wanted to say art if you if we're not here still
try to come by a like a shiba or spunky space okay no problem because i really i didn't really
know what ape chain africa was until now, and I like the sound
of it, and I wanted to ask something, but I know you've got to go.
So, see you later. No problem.
I got you, Luke. Thank you.
Thank you, guys. Thank you, Art, for
coming up, and I'll see you in the
next episode. Yeah, if
you don't have a Froglings, you definitely
should go grab one.
I looked earlier, I think
it's like 40 Art Floor floor let me just go make sure
i don't know what was it uh 35 36 eight floor at the moment um it's only 136 133 listed out of a
2222 collection um so yeah i i do think they deserve more love um their the community is
is really doing well if you go look at the chart i
think um over the past like three weeks almost it's just been kind of hovering sideways so i
think that's really impressive uh and if you look back you know it's there were some dips here and
there but it's been holding up strong because i think people are starting to see the worth the longer it goes on. And as APE goes up, you know, it makes these NFTs more valuable.
And yet again, where we stay, I was speaking to Osai last night.
I showed him the map of South Africa and I showed him how huge it is here
because we were speaking about the states.
And he can travel from where he stays to Florida,
which is over like four or five states um that's just the size of south africa literally like from one all the way down here to basically the top of south africa and that's going like
across that's not even going straight up or whatever that's just going like 45 degrees angle
Greece angle, basically past our capital and so forth.
basically past our capital and so forth and just a little bit further before we get to the
And just a little bit further before we get to the, you know, but, but it's just, it's,
it's huge.
And there's, there's so many people, Africa is absolutely insane.
Just for me to get to Nigeria is, is like a day's flight.
And I am in Africa, which is, it's just, it almost fathoms.
It's my, my mind just can't fathom that because I mean, it's just crazy to think like, I mean, yeah.
I mean, bro, worst tater at the country inside a country.
That blew me away.
As we were looking at the map. I was like, what's that? Yeah.
We have literally like a small cut country in the middle of South Africa. Um,
you know, which is pretty cool. Uh, I,
I haven't done much research into it since school, but we learned in school about stuff
like that.
So, yeah, anyway, Uncle Mac, you got your hand up and then we got go Chris go, which
I hope I don't know the person, but it says in his profile is the lead design engineer
at Emil, which is Lucifer's project.
So we'll, I guess we'll hear from him
now, but, uh, uncle Mac, give your hand up. What's up? Yeah, I just got to jump down. Uh, just want
to say I enjoyed the space. I'll be back and I'll be, uh, more interactive in the, in the next space.
Uh, I like the idea that you just keep doing episode one, part two, uh, just keep it going.
Part three, part four, part three part four like i think that's
a really funny matter uh it's a great name for a space as well but great to great to hear everyone
great to speak uh i'll i'll be back sometime soon i don't know bye awesome thank you uncle mac yeah
i also thought it's a great idea uh when i had the idea i laughed out loud and i just thought it was
funny so i think i'm just going to roll with it.
Just do episode one just goes on until I feel it's time for episode two,
whatever that might be.
If it's just a joke for this will be the first year until next year will be
episode two.
And then just do the whole year episode two, part one and fourth.
I don't know.
I just think that's hilarious.
It doesn't really matter.
It's just the name of the show or whatever it doesn't um it it's that's not the point of it that's what
i said to osai it's just the name the whole point is us just being here and speaking about the
that we're doing um and and so forth so uh and just having these amazing speakers up. Before we go to... Sorry, before we go to...
Go, Chris.
I forgot.
I brought up pizza wings.
Pics on wings.
No, no, no.
What the fuck?
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah, what's going on, bro?
Thank you for letting me come up here.
I'm seeing you space earlier,
but I was at work,
so I couldn't really come up earlier.
And I got the chance right now that I'm going home.
Honestly, I just wanted to say I'm glad you're doing the space.
Because I was just mentioning this earlier, too, to a few people.
I kind of missed the whole space vibe where you know communities
come together and you know you just talk about like different communities and what they're
building so i'm kind of glad that you're doing it um i'll i'll definitely you know join whenever i
can if i can speak i'll join and i'll share the space just to support and everything but whenever
whenever i can come up and speak i'll come up and um have a chat with you guys that's awesome thank you for coming up to
speak i appreciate it um i see you got a brotherhood i love the brotherhood um it's great art
a huge fan of the of the um those the ghost kind of one the country remember what they're called
exactly the uh you you might be able to tell me i can't remember what they're called exactly the uh you might be able
to tell me i can't remember the traits i haven't looked at them in a while uh but uh huge fan of
those ones um and then there's some other cool ones as well if you look at the rarity of the
top ones it's just in most in most cases it's just insane yeah they got some pretty dope ones um but
i'm also a spunky holder so that's why I came up here too to support you.
That's awesome.
I appreciate it, man.
I appreciate the love.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing this as often as I can.
Maybe I want to try and do some more spaces in a week.
So anybody can come and speak up if you are a legit person legit person not not gonna scam us hopefully uh obviously we
can do as much research as we can before we bring people up uh but you know um obviously i want
anybody to be able to feel free that they can come up and speak about whatever they're doing
um like tom down here with maybe squares if he has time he can come and speak about them because i i
i feel that deserves some love um like i said you know people are minting out literal rugs um so why not mint
something cool like a maybe square for like five eight um which is what like two dollars you can
get a few support amazing builder uh it might not be for everybody um but whatever if you understand
the the whole point behind it which is cool on why he did it that way
I find it very interesting like I like the different kinds of art because I feel like
there's a lot of shit that's the same sorry it's maybe sounds rough but yeah I like other stuff
like when the eggs came out and stuff like that, which is a bit different, like the eggs and the shoes.
I mean, yet again, I wasn't here.
There's been shoes before.
Sheba said it.
I know.
I wasn't here for it.
So I thought the freshest kicks were pretty cool.
It's unique.
I like shoes as well.
So, and whatever else there could be that comes in the future,
there's obviously, I have my idea, which I'm not going to speak about because there's obviously,
I don't know, we don't know who we could trust out there.
Anyway.
Redacted.
Yeah, redacted.
But I think that's a unique idea, something that I haven't really seen.
But I will speak to somebody when I get to the point, maybe do a little thing on the catwalk, do my little thing on the catwalk
and then yeah, we'll see how that
goes, anyway
go Chris, go, what's up
yo, what's up
glad to be on the space man, it's the first time that I've
had a chance to be in one of yours
but I caught on that you were kind of talking about like
communities all kind of joining together and.
Is it me? Is he rugging?
No, he's rugging.
No, he's rugging. It's not you.
It's not you.
Oh, Mr. Chris, it sounded like you were about to say something which goes to, you know,
my emotional side.
So maybe you want to reconnect or re-jump back in, and then I would love to hear what
you had to say.
All right, while we wait for him, Dot, have we heard from Dot?
No, I don't think we've heard from Dot.
Dot's been up here in a while.
What's up, Dot?
Yo, what's up, Fleshy?
I just came to brag about the points and stuff like that,
but it kind of moved on.
I'm just stepping out right now, so I got to go,
but I do appreciate you for having the space,
and I think these are going well.
Just got to keep Luke from yapping too much,
but yeah, shout out to you.
Yeah, I hope you guys have a good day
and I'll talk to you later.
You have a good one, Dad.
Osai, maybe you go ahead.
I'll keep quiet for a while.
No, I was just saying
you can go ahead.
The Luke one got me.
It even looks like Luke's
mic is still on.
Oh, and we got Chris back up.
He was cut off at a very interesting moment.
And he could have had a call, I'm thinking.
Hey, yeah, no, I got a weird disconnection moment.
As soon as I turned on my mic, my wife, I just dropped, and it was just like air connection.
No, I was just saying, I've been looking forward for spaces that are kind of doing this again, where there's just communities coming together talking about what they're building, and just kind of like getting to connect with other communities of builders and stuff like that.
Not just the communities that are just out for like connecting with their already kind of ingrained audiences, but like the builders talking with other builders.
So I'm all about that vibe.
I got to meet Luke just, I think it was yesterday.
I feel like it was days ago, but just yesterday in another space.
So I kind of came across this one.
I was like, oh, I'll come on in.
And I was just listening for a little bit.
But yeah, I just wanted to say thank you for opening this space
and kind of enjoying this kind of conversation that you guys have been uh expanding right now
when i first got into nfts i was like uh really connected with a lot of uh one-on-one artists in
nigeria and
uh was something that kind of like got me to think like man i want to jump on the on the
audience i mean from the audience onto the mic because this is like
my bread and butter of how i kind of cut my teeth in this nft field um so i appreciate the space man
that's really awesome i'm glad to have you here. Sorry, I was just grabbing a drink.
I see the space has also been going over two hours.
But yeah, I'm hoping that everybody in their communities can bring their communities together
because I spend a lot of time on X.
And you do tend to notice that depending on what you do on X, it's very, you know, your, the algorithm, algorithm keeps you in a certain loop of, you know,
people or whatever. But then, so you don't always see the other
spaces or the posts and stuff. But I mean, I am just one of
those people I like and retweet almost like I said, everything I
see. But
most of the time, I just see stuff from a chain because that's where I spend most of
my time. If but if I do see stuff from other chains, I did try and share it because it's
good to share. And I feel doing that little bit. I'm not a huge guy yet. I mean, I only have 1,800 followers or whatever.
But eventually, maybe I have a big enough audience where whatever I put out actually reaches the right people
and we can bring these awesome communities together.
And I just hope that with these spaces
that people actually go and just go look.
I mean, you don't have to go buy
something necessarily but just go look and like this i i don't like saying the nfa and and all
that bullshit because whatever um just or or d d what d u r d do your own research um yeah yeah
yeah yeah but i mean just go check it out
and if you guys hear what
the founders
and the community members
say about the projects
and then you can go and look and see
for yourself and then see how affordable
it is to get into these great
communities and
that's what I think
somebody mentioned it the other day it's this thing about being a part of something that's what I think it's just somebody mentioned it the other day, it's
this this thing about being a part of something that's bigger than just you and I, you know, we,
we can be, we can be this big thing, which is all great, being a part of this bigger thing than,
you know, this big space, which spans literally across the world. We have people here from all over, from Canada to America to Australia to South Africa, which
is crazy.
We can sit here in real time, meet in the middle of the night, some guys in the middle
of the day, morning, whatever, and we can all have a conversation, speak about all these
great things.
Because some people just don't know about the other stuff, because they stay in this
little bubble um people tend to stay in this little bubble which is i guess fine but it's also not always
the best thing we need to get out there and i mean how else are we gonna get new people into the
space um like a lot of people just been saying i mean obviously i spend a lot of time on ape chain
but just there's a lot of recycling of liquidity in the chain. It's not
just there. I assume it's everywhere because we don't have a lot of new people. Well, there is
obviously new people coming in, but not the amount of people that we need to be able to, like Tater
said the other day, like where you come to the point where you sell to the same guy, like, you know, and then he sells to you, as an example.
We need more people, so there's more holders and better distribution and so forth.
I see we got Emil in the audience.
I love what they're doing.
It looks pretty cool.
I see a lot of the post from Lucifer on my timeline
yeah the art just looks insane
like I think something's coming on the 1st of May
if I can recall
like I see a lot of stuff on the timeline
I might be wrong
you might be able to jump in there go Chris
I don't know if you want to speak about the project
I mean obviously
I don't know too much about it just about
that they i assume that they're doing a 3d drop um i guess is that correct
yeah bro so uh i'm actually the one that's developing the 3d stuff and um we got a bunch
of other stuff besides that that's also connecting to it. So we actually have a big investment, Lucifer's,
we've got a big investment in an AI company
that we're gonna incorporate into the NFT as well.
So we have the 3D files and we have this AI engine.
And so there's a few things that we're doing
on like just the art side that are,
I think different and pretty sweet.
But then there's this whole other thing that we're putting together as a mechanism for NFTs to basically be interactable and behave in a certain way based on how you collect it.
So that it creates kind of like this new sort of like, I don't know, like we wanted to kind of just push the boundary and test a different experience.
Because like, you know, this is kind of like, I don't know who's old enough to remember early websites.
But like early, early websites, people were still testing it out and figuring out like, what are we going to do with these websites?
Like there was a, I don't know, back when I remember just first kind of getting around into websites and seeing the news, there was like futon.com went for sale for like ten
thousand dollars because somebody thought that was an amazing website to buy or something and
it's kind of like what reminds me so much of nfts right now where it's like these weird little
creations that we're not really sure super super like into the future what they're going to become
but we know that they're the special thing and we know that we can load them with all these different functionalities and stuff and uh we kind of
took the the question of like well all right we collect all these nfts we stick them in a wallet
and then we just sort of keep them there and like that's it like they just stay there and like what
do we do with it like we'll slap it on a pfp every now and then on a profile and then like that's all it like we can maybe ask an artist that they can like do some
things with it and like that's that's about it so we thought like all right but we all kind of want
to do that and tend to do that so like what if we make it so that the actual nft has that stuff
built into it so that it's easy to do that and so
that it's easy to kind of like create different experiences with it and so um my background is in
technology before i did 3d art so before this i was like military technology and doing that for a
decade and then uh when i left i graphic design in a super big way.
So I got into just understanding files of all types.
So like photo files, media, and video, and 3D, and everything.
And then during COVID, all the ways that I used to shoot live media files stopped, and I had to focus only on 3D.
So I went super hard on that.
And then right when i was
doing that that's when like the crypto market bull run happened and i just did from that point on
and that's kind of what got me to this point and what we're building from what the skills that i
brought from that time into now is like augmented reality stuff, like video game programming,
and just like graphic design from all the different files
that I know how to work with,
so that we can bring it into the next mobile device
generation, like VR headsets and augmented reality headsets.
And so like from that point,
like that's what I think is like really pressing for me,
is like to make sure that no matter what we make,
it's always in 3D files so that we can not just experience them
as an image, but so that we can experience them
as animated things instead of a VR headset once those
become more mainstream.
Because I work in a VR headset just about every time
that I work in 3D stuff.
So for me, the switch between just going from a 2d you know regular monitor to 3d was like
holy shit like this is way different this is way cool like you can you know fist bump your little
character and you can do stuff with it and not everybody can right now but just like with mobile
phones like not a lot of people had them on the first two generations but then all of a sudden
it picked up speed and then now everybody has them uh that's going to happen with mobile devices uh for vr headsets
already um like if you look at some of the um the companies that are doing um mobile plans for vr
headsets that have like 5g built into it like all of the major telecom providers are already trying
to figure out what headsets are they going to support, how can they put a contract for them, what kind of data plans do they need.
so that they can have basically partnerships where the quest streams video games from an
nvidia server real time so like you can have like a quest that runs on you know just a regular
battery and cheap power on it but it can play unreal engine games because it's running from
the servers not from your device it's basically just streaming like a video from your device
so we thought all right, all that's happening,
all that's coming in the future, right.
So what do we want to do with this?
Like, what's the future?
Do we just want to build a project for now
or do we want to build a project for tomorrow?
And the ball kind of landed somewhere in the middle.
We wanted to build something that's already usable today,
but that it's ready to expand
for all the stuff that's coming.
And so we kind of went into the lab and we created all these assets and started with the skeletons because I don't know if you guys remember anyone who's been following
Lucifer's projects, it started with skeletons.
And so we were doing skeletons for a while, but it was hard to do low poly skeletons in
a way that didn't turn them into those little cartoon Plato looking skeletons.
And so we went into like a different rabbit hole with a different character uh called oogie and then we did that for a little bit and then we went all pixar like full beautiful character
graphics with that but then we realized like those are really hard to render so like it takes a lot
of render power to do those and it's not really like easy to work with those quickly. So we kind of kept going back to the
drawing board. And as we were making one of the videos, we needed a secondary character that's
just a little tiny dude that was just going to be like all over the screen, like a bunch of them.
And that's when we first kind of created this little Emile character. And the inspiration behind Emile was actually the first animated character ever.
Like the first animated film ever.
It was drawn by a French dude named Emile Cole back in like 1908.
And he was like in his time way ahead of everything.
He was like a really well accomplished uh illustrator for his time
and uh he like defied the government with his cartoons it was all kinds of crazy stuff he was
like the original dgen too so he he gave up a job at um at an insurance broker to be a stamp
collector because like at that time stamp collecting was like nfts and you can make
hundreds of thousands you got the right stamp and uh and so this dude like did everything he was a cartoonist for a long time and then after he kind of like
just did everything in the cartoonist side of things uh somebody approached him one day with
this new technology and they're like bro we're trying to do this crazy new thing um we got film
cameras but we think we can do animations with them uh but we need someone who can draw instead
of recording with a camera frame by frame and they're asking like do you think we can do animations with them. But we need someone who can draw instead of recording
with a camera frame by frame.
And they're asking, do you think you could do it?
And so he was kind of fascinated by the idea.
And he took it on.
And he created the first animated film.
It was like 400 frames and just black and white little white
lines.
And in that cartoon came out this little character
with a cone hat.
And so when we found out,
as we were doing research on the first animations
and the technology of the first animations,
we came across this dude and we were like,
oh my God, let's bring him back.
And that's where this whole character is based out of.
He's essentially the renovation of the first animated idea back in 2018, sorry,
1908. Now back in 2025 on the blockchain, they resurface this new frontier. As we're breaking
out of the 2D into the 3D era, we wanted to do something similar with this character,
and we're using this character to kind of bring it into life.
And so we got the beautiful animations on one side and then we're giving it like a
little brain so it has an AI engine that basically supports its functions and you
can talk to it, it remembers you.
And so that's, that's a little bit about it, but like, there's so much to go into.
So I don't want to like keep on hugging the mic but like i just had so much to kind of try to shrink into one spot to just
try to like condense it but if you have any more questions like i'll be popping in and out and now
you are uh we're connected so we can always talk and stuff and have more time to discuss it later
no problem and don't ever feel that you'reging the mic like everybody has um take as much time
as you as you as you want if you have interesting things to say like i don't mind like i just learned
some stuff that i didn't know about so that's actually pretty incredible um i'm super excited
to see what they look like um i mean i get the whole thing like i'm i'm a big gamer. I'm going to say it again. I've been playing games since, you know, late in my, you know,
throughout my younger years.
You know, had like PlayStation 1 here and there.
So I played some games here and there.
And then, you know, got into PCs basically just before high school.
And then as I got into high school, the internet was like a thing
and I started playing games online,
like Warcraft, Warcraft three, playing Dota.
And that's where my Dota addiction started.
And then from there, kind of just addicted to that.
But over the past few years,
I've been trying to play like single player games and stuff
because there's some incredible games out there
with incredible stories, which is, it's just insane.
Like the stuff that goes into some of this
is just mind blowing.
And I've always had an idea for my own game as well.
Maybe one day, you never know.
Like things happen, like look where we are.
There's people that's designing games now that also never thought that this would be what they're doing now, like, uh, Captain Howick and cube and Boki and so forth.
So I can't wait to see what you guys are doing when I saw what they were doing in VR,
because I've never really checked out VR.
So that's something that's really ever piqued my interest
but then i make uh all these people and they have all these avatars they you know you you have these
nfts and now you're running around in this game and then in vr like all the that
they were doing and i was just like like what like what the is this even like is this what i missed
is it's and obviously there's some cool
like movies out there uh i'm not i don't watch a lot of movies but like one movie that came out a
long time ago uh i think like it's like 2008 or somewhere which is called gamer if you've if you
have it's it's a very gory action movie if you haven't watched it i recommend going to go and
watch that it's absolutely insane movie
um i think what's the guy but isn't it butler what's his uh gerald i don't know what his name
is that gerard butler yeah i think he's the actor if i'm correct don't don't put me on that
um but an insane movie it's insane oh it's so good and then obviously um ready player one which is like i mean really
mind-blowing yeah it's it's for me being a empath and i'm an emotional person and he's just and i'm
a i'm a huge fan of gaming and then what goes into gaming and you know over being in now blockchain
i've learned a little bit more about gaming than i knew before
because i've met people that's not doing 3d work and all this and then i went to go look and do
some research and then i learned more stuff about what goes into the back end of making these games
and stuff so um ready player one with the whole thing of the Easter eggs as well. I'm a big fan. So whoever makes games, please just add Easter eggs.
That's the coolest thing ever.
Oh, yeah.
I love Easter eggs and everything.
There's some crazy games out there with crazy Easter eggs.
The one is the Talos Principle.
Like the whole game almost feels like just one big Easter egg, actually.
But it's extremely, it's a puzzle game. It's very difficult uh you actually have to solve some of the puzzles you
go out of the map and stuff to unlock some of the easter eggs and stuff but it's so cool
and just the references to stuff and then obviously now in web 3 look what off the grid's doing what
they just did with the board apes i mean isn't that like a it's like a reference i mean and the g's yeah i mean
eventually one day you know you can look back and people can are gonna hide stuff like that
like they did with the hidden profile pictures but not make a competition out of it and you're
gonna find these things and you know we're gonna know what it's about like everything's gonna be
and yeah well i think i think it was hidden until somebody found it,
the only up with Goblin Town Art before it got taken off.
But with other things that were copyrighted,
I guess the company just wanted to make sure and wasn't like, oh,
they probably whoever had the NFT or whatever on the team was like, no,
no, it's good.
And they're probably like, no, we got to get it off just in case, you know,
whatever, you know, but I mean, seeing that stuff. like you're saying, seeing the work, seeing like I understand like why some people like you like where they go, what are they doing?
But it's very strenuous.
I mean, I've learned some of the basics and it's it's it's mind blowing what you can do because the opportunities are endless.
You know, I work for manufacturing kind of stuff and, and, and what they have their software,
it's not endless.
It gets to, you know, it's point, it's got a limit, you know, but you know, you, you
do work, it's complex.
You get the work done, whatever.
You're making the tools, make the part look, whatever the shape that the part needs to
be or whatever.
But it kind of goes down to the level of you know it's the imagination with these
with these games with these you know what people are making these avatars all these different
creations so now seeing these games that kind of run up like what you're saying off the grid
and now seeing like whoa i got that mt and this is kind of a big game you know it may not be like the call of duties
fortnights but it's it's a pretty pretty solid game a lot of players a lot of wallets created i
mean fantastic technology behind it i mean that's you know avax is a pretty decent chain for that
you know high you know a lot of a lot of transactions and you don't even see it don't
even it's like where's the Web3 at?
Oh, it's there.
Everything's an NFT.
What?
It's wild.
I see GoCress also has his hand up.
Yeah, just on what you were just saying about,
if you enjoy watching the build happen,
like how just any kind of aspect of either putting the game together
or assets and
stuff like that you can join us on the discord and uh i broadcast live while i'm building stuff
there now and then just a few times a week that is so cool dude i'm so glad that you came up here
um that's awesome um that's just so cool like like, I feel so honored, uh, being here.
I said it on my first space the other day, uh, the, that, that brought me, uh, a year
ago.
Now I'm here hosting spaces where people are coming up and I'm meeting new people and other
people are also now getting to know a bit more, more about you.
So that's actually pretty incredible.
I'll definitely jump in there and, uh a little watch. Is there any questions anybody has on stage? I know we lost our co-host
a little while back. Darkman is down in the audience. I don't know if he's still busy,
if he wants to come up and speak. I see there are some other people in the audience. I just
want to say hi to everybody. There's a whole of um emiles now in here which is pretty cool uh it's just you just see how quickly literally go chris jumped in and then
a whole bunch of people followed and that's that's great like that's what we want so everybody in
the space go have a look uh if you want to tag somebody uh retweet and like still we're still running the spaces a little
while longer um and then check it check out the the profiles and give a follow and a like and
a retweet it goes a long way i know everybody says it but it does really go a long way that
little notification you know that little like and retweet on on a post um a lot of people's. A lot of people goes unnoticed what they post.
I know you don't have to do it like with everything,
but, you know, just go show some love here and there in the timeline.
I don't know why people don't like reposting stuff.
I don't know what the deal is.
If it's good shit that you're supporting,
then I don't see what the problem is on that.
So, yeah, just show some love. Did you want to say something?
See your hand is up still or again?
I don't see a hand good, sir.
Oh, okay. Then I'm rugging. Yuki, are you still there luke gamble what are you guys up to what's happening
i was gone for a minute but uh i'm back from uh from swimming so i'm catching up
yeah i'm just at work just uh working while i'm listening uh it's been a really good space though
and uh yeah i appreciate everybody that came up and kind of had some good discussions.
You really got to keep this up, Fleshy, because I think it's been a really good mixed bag of different projects and people coming up and expressing either, you know, what's going on in their lives or in the projects that they're building.
And Luke's rants, you know, that it's been a good time.
So, yeah, I'm highly enjoying it.
But yes, I haven't been able to really contribute too much. You know, I got a lot of stuff going on at my work right now,
trying to put out fires and all that. But I'm always here to support you, Fleshy,
and everybody else in this community. So yeah, good job.
Thank you. Appreciate it. Yuki, appreciate it. I appreciate everybody that came by for the space.
If there's anybody in the audience that wants to come up and speak about I appreciate it. I appreciate everybody that came by for the space.
If there's anybody in the audience that wants to come up
and speak about their community or their projects,
feel free to just give a request.
Yeah, it might be scary.
That is something people don't really speak about.
Getting onto spaces is extremely nerve-wracking.
Until a while back i was
still freaking out every time i had to go onto a space and and um and just speak up but uh i've
gotten a lot more confident uh around some some people i i guess they they affect um the rest of
us uh with their their positive positivity and and so forth. And just how they run things.
And it gives us inspiration to do that, or like me, to do my thing.
So yeah, and we want to inspire people to want to build and just grow in these communities
so that we can get to know you.
We don't know who is behind these profile pictures.
Some people are doxxed. Some people are not. Some people know who is behind these profile pictures. Some people are doxxed.
Some people are not.
Some people know who I am.
I'm not scared of being doxxed.
There's a reason why I, not that,
before I started with NFTs,
I didn't have my face on my account.
It's not like I was trying to hide anything,
but I had my reasons because I wanted to try and do something good
and I didn't want people to say, yeah, but i'm just doing it for the fame and fortune um so yeah i wanted to
do something good just because that's the kind of person i i am i want to help other people it's just
the way that you know it turned out for me uh there's a lot of people out there that deserves all the help they can get
and you know and so forth um if anybody wants to jump in osai anything you want to say maybe you
start closing it down because we're not seeing any requests or if there's anything else you want to
speak about um just uh yeah just go ahead no i do want to say you know thanks for you know all the people listening you
know we got you know it's good to see like felons down there he's a great one in all metaversal
things you know the nios are so cool you know cat5 and all them think you know i always hear
about to see those djn hour you know he's up there mixing up some crazy beats. So it's always cool seeing Niles all around, you know, definitely support them because they've always moved some noise and nifty.
And they got a, you know, cute little PFP and they're always playing with AI with them.
And it's great because they got avatars, you know, and they're, you know, they're great.
And then, you know, seeing some other people like we got stocks down there as a kid called Beast. Obviously, that's such a great community. You know, I mean, I mean, it's wild, you know, when I when I ended up getting my first beast back in the day, and it was just, you know, seeing seeing that go up and down seeing the sentiment changes in the market and seeing, you know, I always believed, you know, and then still seeing, you know, founder of Raspy, you know, he's still kicking ass, you know.
He's still creating.
He's still cooking.
You know, he's learning on the way.
Like a lot of founders that, you know, you just keep learning and keep trying things, you know, but you got to keep it fun.
You got to keep it, you know, entertaining, you know.
So, you know, it's always good to see beasts all around, you know but you gotta keep it fun you gotta keep it you know entertaining you know so you know it's
always good to see beasts all around you know they're you know and obviously you know seeing
turbo down there you know obviously and uh oven c with the g's and we love g's and a lot of people
you know yuki's up here and gamble's got that in the background they're always you know when you
think of like you know we got a iow and spunkies that's always, you know, when you think of like, you know, we got AIOW
and the Spunkies, that's beautiful utility, you know, it's software, it's the tech, it's
Web3 Essence. Same thing, you know, with the Gs and what, you know, he's doing over there with
Dashbow. That's, I think that's huge. And now he wants to plug in AI with it, with the Think
agents. I mean, that's big.
I'm glad I was able to snag one of those.
I know some people feel different ways, but I think what they're trying to do and the
stacks that they're creating, I know a little bit about Futurverse.
What they tried and what they keep trying, they're in the back.
Maybe they're not posting all crazy, but they're cooking.
They're cooking.
They want to keep collaborating and keep getting bigger and stronger.
That's what a lot of these brands are doing now.
We've got Luke with the hand up.
What exactly are the think agents?
I completely faded that because I was like, whatever that is, that's an expensive mint.
I'm good.
It's kind of like on an interesting layer, they're giving tools very easily in our hands and they're using a credit system.
They seem like they have a pretty decent business plan and they're really capturing a lot of people, you know, an ape chain.
And they've been speaking a lot about, you know, they're going to have different tools and they're going to have your own agents going to be yours.
It ain't going to be Sam Altman's.
And then all the way down to what you can create with it.
And, you know, I heard a little bit about how, you know, they're going to be using different things for like just avatar creation and then rigging it right then and there.
You know, like there's so many stacks
that they're building off of when it comes to AI.
And it just seems like an interesting business model when it comes to their think token system
that they're going to be coming out with.
And I mean, opportunities are usually endless.
These are usually endless. You know, I've had a couple of talks with a couple of people with it.
You know, I've had a couple of talks with a couple of people with it.
And, you know, what I want to try to do and what other people want to do, you want to own it, you know, but not all of us know how to set up servers and set up, you know, all these different type of, you know, we want to just use a product and be able to, you know, get up in there and do it.
and be able to get up in there and do it.
And it looks like with their tools and everything,
it might be a positive way towards something like that,
where, and all the builders seem like
they're gonna be helping each other.
And it just seems like a very good,
like a group of synergistic people
that are trying to actually move things forward when
it comes to like web three and ai and and the possibilities of you know having those tools and
owning those tools yourself and them having a decent business model and using their token system
and and you know as credits but then you also get perks with holding
that nft to where most of those are are pretty free are basically free or probably very low
credits for the holders you know so it definitely seems pretty interesting to me you know i'm still
looking more and more into it definitely you know vibing with what they you know i was in their space earlier a lot
of people were talking and they had great ideas and the way they were bringing people up and
you know some of these people had really good ideas and they were like you know you you couldn't
afford one but we really love what you're saying what you're what you know they they onboarded a
couple people right then and there.
You know, it was very, very, it felt, I don't know, it felt like very interesting old school
vibes, you know, and I came kind of late in, you know, 2021, you know, and mostly like 2022,
that's when I really, really was capturing a lot of ethos in the space and seeing the whole board apes going crazy and the gas wars and like, well, what do I do?
And I just sat my happy ass in a community and went to NFT NYC, had an amazing experience.
Can't wait to go back.
Hopefully, maybe the one coming up, I'm not 100% sure.
But, I mean, it's just you feel something.
And even if projects come and go, you know, you still see the spirit and you still understand yourself.
And if you want to keep building, keep building. You still see the spirit and you still understand yourself.
If you want to keep building, keep building. But personally, I think it's great.
And I think with the AI, to bring that back around and show what I know of, it seems like they're doxxed.
It just, it seems like they're doxxed.
You know, they're really trying to, you know, kind of act as a business.
You know, they came, had a pretty good spiel, you know, out on Coffee with Captain.
I listened to that one.
Was kind of unsure.
And then, like, hearing them this morning and then, you know, and then just seeing different things, different videos of their one podcast that they,
I think they do on Thursdays. You know, I thought it was, you know,
a lot of it made sense.
I don't know if that helped you out, but I'm sure other people have more.
I mean, there's.
I appreciate it. My big question, I think at this point is, you know,
a lot of seemingly green flags but why the
heck were they like
kind of not around until
the Mint went live at least to my knowledge
I've never even heard of it and I mean
I'm kind of maybe aloof at times
and not paying close attention to everything
but you know I hadn't heard
of it once
It seems like they have a decent
amount of ties with people you know some pretty
reputable ogs you know that's kind of what i was kind of like oh who are these people you know
what i mean and and kind of you know hearing them out on like coffee with captain and then you know
i don't i've only heard some of the different names but you know quickly looking into i'm like
okay some of that does make sense but you know you know, yes, I guess, you know, they have ties and they've been taught and been pretty open, you know, but they just never had the I guess the mind share until they really started kicking ass and getting their collaborations.
collaborations and i mean they have some serious collaborations on there so i mean it doesn't seem
And I mean, they have some serious collaborations on there.
like you know a a group of like guys in in their garage really you know trying to do it seems like
they're decently intelligent and they're trying to you know move move the eco
move, move the eco.
Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's very interesting. Like, I mean,
I didn't know much about it basically until yesterday and it started like on
the 22nd. Um, and I didn't see anything on the timeline. That was, I was,
that's what I was saying earlier. You're like, you,
you don't always see everything on X. Um, like they say, you know,
you only say like, you only see like 20% of your followers see your stuff at any given time
or something like that, apparently.
So yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Readyverse and Futureverse.
That Readyverse looks pretty cool.
I think it's Readyverse, that one that's based off Ready Player One?
I think it's Readyverse, right?
I mean, maybe that was their play on it back in the day,
but I know it's Futureverse.
I think there's a Ready Player Me, I believe,
and that's kind of like,
there's a couple that I know they kind of had a play on
on those you know names um
it's the studio is called um the the ready verse um so it's okay yeah yeah and then under that
it's um basically you know where you can get you can get access with your fluff worlds now and i
think there's some other projects that where you can get access to it at the moment i've seen some videos uh i'm gonna turn it to the top because it actually looks pretty cool
yeah no they have i mean there were there were multiple times in the past year that i had my
finger just on the trigger just on the fluffs because they they they are they hold like them
the party bears the things they all have their own, you know, little thing going, you know, and it's and it's a lot.
And I give appreciation when they when people put more than just a JPEG in the art, even at that base level where they have, you know, a 3D rendered avatar moving around slightly with music and a moving background.
I mean, that's that's pretty
interesting you know that's there's a lot into that you know and and that's why then you know
when say it's you know like you know there's dangs there's you know there's a uh the uh
the dgen tunes you know they all have something like there, but then, you know, a lot of other projects, they kind of go beyond the layer with their dashboard system. And they
have like, you know, like, you know, G's, Chilling Chili's, you know, they have like,
where you can kind of, you know, you can stake or you can interact with your 3D or,
and then download and do things with it. So that's amazing.
No, it's crazy where we've gotten with technology.
That's what I was saying the other day with off the grid.
I love first vision shooters.
It's great.
It's like Call of Duty, but just more intense.
We've gotten to a point with technology
where you can blow people's arms and limbs off,
where they have no legs and no arms.
And that's, for me me it's just crazy to
think like how does all that work and then these new games where you're playing like forza horizon
and you're driving through the mud and the car gets all muddy or you're or like with these new
games where you have like snow melting in real time nowadays you can like see the snow snow melt
from like snow literally down to water, which
is crazy to think, like what the fuck?
It's just crazy where we've gotten.
So I've mentioned it a lot.
I think we're very fortunate to be alive at this point in time with what's going on.
So yeah, we did have Mikey G up, but I see he just dropped down.
I'm sorry, I was just about to get to you.
If you want to come back up, you can just request.
Thanks for jumping in.
Says he's the plague NFT creator, so would have loved to hear about that.
But yeah, if you had to jump back down sorry um and okay um i see shiba is
back in shiba if you want to come back up just request uh we're just talking about some some
gaming stuff basically uh you know basically before we're gonna jump into fortnite soon
that's basically also a big metaverse it's fun running around there's almost
anything nowadays in fortnight people make memes about it but at the end of the day it's pretty
cool to be able to run around as eminem or uh peter griffin or the giant chicken as an example
or rick and morty or because i love rick and morty and uh there's mob marvel and all these different things to rock stars and
musicians and you can be or play as anyone you want which i think is is pretty cool and that's
obviously where nfts are headed uh basically with these big meta versus like ready player one where
you're going to be able to play as imagine one day we have our spunky uh avatar and you can run
around as a spunky if you want if you want to feel like uh being a spunky for the day or whatever
and the next day you can run around as emil uh or the day of that uh run around as a as a mutant
and so many more like we're getting to that point where 3d stuff is just looks like it's just becoming the norm with
projects nowadays so yeah that seems to just be the way that things are going now and um i'm
looking forward to see what's what's next uh the goblin town with what they were doing
uh i i love what goblin town did with uh really, really hard driving game. I don't know if it's launched yet.
It's on Steam.
I did wish list it.
I'm going to go check quickly.
It is coming soon still.
But that looks fun.
So go check out Goblin Town, really hard driving game.
They're doing something very cool.
And I can't wait to play that.
It's just something different.
And if you're in New York,
you might see their truck driving around.
You'll get to test it.
A bunch of people got to test it.
That's pretty legendary.
Yeah.
Go, Chris, did you put your hand back up?
Yeah, I was just going to touch on some of the stuff that you were saying um the one on just like how
cool things have become in video game and just like the last few years like how much advances
we've seen um and then two you kind of said something about like wouldn't it be cool if you
had a game in the future and uh and i kind of wanted to touch a little bit on on the platforms um that we were kind of talking about uh because
like i've been kind of playing with this um i think in a big way it all kind of really
accelerated in covet time i had a friend who was telling me about how like um around the time that
i was getting into like um what i was going to kind of do after college, I was trying to figure out whether multimedia was going to be, like, for me forever.
And I was talking to a buddy of mine who had kids, and he was telling me basically, like, how during the lockdowns, his kids were, like, using Roblox as essentially like recess and playtime because they weren't
allowed to go out and be around each other anymore.
Or they couldn't go visit each other's houses and they weren't going to be around in school.
So Roblox had become for their generation, almost like recess.
So they would take breaks in school and literally they would all jump in Roblox.
They would share the maps and they would tell each other where they were going to go.
And they would all jump in Roblox, they would share the maps, and they would tell each other where they were gonna go, and they would all meet up there.
And I thought that was such a weird, fascinating shift
in like just a generational experience of the internet.
Like to us, you know, it was like,
oh, go check out this video.
And like, that was interesting to us
because like we grew up without the internet
being full of videos.
And to them, that was like the water that they swam in. Like for them, the internet being full of videos and to them that was like the the water that they swam in
like for them the internet always had
youtube in their hand and a a version of the internet that was in 3d that they could walk
around and was super interestingly like unique to their generation and i thought that was like
holy cow like so that means in the future
they're not going to accept anything less because i don't know if you remember but like
when youtube started kind of getting popularity around 2011 there was a lot of things on tv that
looked like crap compared to youtube like you saw youtube productions and you saw stuff on tv and
you're like why is the free stuff on youtube better like and that was like that for
a long time and then eventually like the funding from big companies kind of moved into youtube and
then it switched and then like all of a sudden uh tv stuff got cinematic but for a while it was like
cinematic stuff on youtube looked a lot better than just regular commercials on tv and um anyway
with that with that shift uh i kind of popped into Roblox.
And so I kind of understood their SDK and how do you build in Roblox.
And then I went around checking a bunch of different platforms that were like that.
They were like, users get to build their own content.
And I got to understand what is part of the tool sets of each different variation and what's kind of missing.
And then after the bull run, I got to check out more platforms like Sandbox, Decentraland,
and then the ones that are like Web3 based.
And what I noticed was that there's kind of like an attempt to monetize in a way that
is kind of against what Web3 is sort of kind of like an attempt to monetize in a way that is kind of against what web 3 is sort of
kind of about and then there's like an attempt from another side to try to make it this new
direction and so like here's like a little thing that i noticed from just from that time and from
what we've kind of seen so far and so like uh i think it's kind of an interesting kind of thing
to kind of know about and and explore as we kind of go down this rabbit hole.
But like, in the last generation, we saw that like, there was platforms like Instagram and YouTube that don't produce content themselves, like at least not in mass.
But the user generated content is what creates the value of the platform.
So before that, like, we had companies like Excite.
I don't know if you guys remember, this is like web one stuff.
But Excite came out right after like dial-up internet came out.
And their whole thing was like, they were basically like the entertainment hub of the internet.
But like they were a production house.
So like they were putting out, since there weren't that many things on the internet but like they were a production house so like they were putting
out um since there weren't that many things on the internet at the time they were basically like
hosting a studio where they were creating like skits and like news and all the stuff that they
were trying to fill the internet with um and so like they did that for a while until the internet
got too big and then all of a, they weren't that relevant anymore.
And right around the time that they were dying off is when YouTube kind of started.
And when YouTube grew, they grew because of that user-generated content idea.
And this is kind of what a lot of the platforms are building on now.
Like, they're just kind of thinking, okay, if we create the systems, the users come in,
and then they make the stuff with
that and then like we make a little tiny percentage off of the whole thing so like think of like open
seas now is another example of that like open seas is massive because they take a little tiny
percentage thanks to having a marketplace and an easy way of minting nfts and uh the same goes with like some of these other like uh multiverses um not multiverses
metaverses and uh you can roll decentraland into them you can roll sandbox into it and
moniverse spatial they're all kind of like really similar it's just they give you the tools and then
you kind of go around and you build stuff and share it with other people and that's kind of like the magic but the challenge with the adoption
of those platforms has always been kind of similar and it's something that i'm kind of noticing now
is taking a different direction on youtube that i'm trying to like work early in this web three metaverse kind of world building scenario um and it kind of goes
a little like this like by now youtube is so saturated and there's people creating content
that's pretty good but they have to fight against all the saturation to stand out of the noise
that they have to partner up with a developer or like a
like a media producer manager of community that helps like the creator drafts the scripts he
records the video then he passes on these files to the dude who edits them and then drops them
to the community and manages the conversations in the community and all that other stuff so one
person generally handles the tech the other person generally handles the tech, the other person generally handles the content and the direct communication.
And by doing that, it gives both a little bit of an ability to be able to kind of balance themselves out a little bit.
And it gives the creator a little bit more time to focus on what they're actually creating.
While the content manager slash video editor creates the content and polishes it and passes
it down to the communities and manages the community expectations and all this other stuff.
But there's not that many things like that for 3D. So like, just kind of like all these different
all these different platforms that have all these different ways of building and they give you all
platforms that have all these different ways of building and they give you all these tools,
these tools they don't have a system uh that's really like well structured for that system to
really tell stories like if you look at any of those um they have like partnerships with designers
and you'll have a way to like go in you go look for a partner that partner will help you develop
your little world and you pop it in and your world is there that goes for like most of the the solidly already developed out platforms
but when you go in there it's like a mix-up bag of everything and it's kind of like wandering
into youtube but in 3d where it's like there's everything like there's spaces that suck there's
spaces that are for scammers there's spaces that are like built by people that really want to build something beautiful but like they do it on their hobby time on the side there's spaces that are for scammers. There's spaces that are like built by people that
really want to build something beautiful, but like they do on their hobby time on the side.
There's people that are like there because it's like their corporate job is to literally build
it for a brand like Nike or McDonald's. And then there's projects that are trying to build stuff
in there and kind of make the name for themselves and stand out. And so like, it's super mixed.
And part of what sucks about it is that it's super mixed and part of what sucks
about it is that it's so mixed that it's like early youtube it's like it's just barely just
a bunch of stuff trying to stand out just by trying to be kind of sort of created but like
there's no story to it there's no it's like it's kind of memeable level but the problem is that it
it's not good enough to stand out against like the
platforms that have been around already, like Roblox or like a VR chat.
Like, even though those two platforms are kind of like me,
they're, they've been around for so much longer and their tools and the
communities are so much more mature.
Like not mature, like, Oh, those are mature people.
But like the, the content is are mature people but like the the content the
audiences have known to expect the platform to show up a certain way and they kind of understand
it to be a certain way so like there's maturation and how the community understands the platform
and uh and that's something that all these web3 platforms don't have yet because they're so new
and they're changing and adapting so much every year but in contrast um
there's not a lot of ways that people are building like a big universe um and by universe i mean
something like an interconnected web of stories that actually tell the brand story the way that
you kind of want it um there's some platforms that are kind of beginning to do it and i think probably the biggest is but like in a branded way like other sides maybe but even then other side is kind of like
more like a metaverse that's just kind of um for everybody who can join in on it but
what we're hoping to build with this and what we're trying to put together is essentially like our own story for like our own project, the Emil, Prip, and the Oogies together.
We've already been developing a game for like 12 months.
We have story, we have characters, we have maps, we have assets.
And with all that, we were thinking like, all like all right cool like this is nice but like
once we build this we don't have to limit it to just ourselves we can begin to onboard other
teams we can bring in bring other projects in and say cool you guys have your team you have
your community you have all your assets you have everything you got built already but like
if you have no intention to want to get into 3d from zero like we can
onboard you to the to the 3d stuff like we can either build it for you or you can like bring
your design team uh collaborate with us through like like funded collaborations and like we work
together to like build your assets build your game and you don't have to build the game out of zero.
And from like the point that like a lot of these other projects let you build because it's like since they're built for everybody to build,
they put these really safeguarded systems in place.
But because we build on our own custom engine and we build only with people
that we bring in, we could build essentially like whatever anybody
wants as long as it's within the limits and it's fun and i think that brings a new flavor to the
game that we're excited to check out what happens in 2025 because like i think that's kind of where
it begins to be interesting and i think that's kind of sort of what think did like they have
these tools they made it easy for other people to use them and then they brought very specific partnerships i think it was like need bits
board ape and there was a third one i can't remember who it was that was like the three
early ones that they brought in and from that the community expanded by just being able to like
drop that alpha on those communities and those communities getting excited
and so i think like a similar thing happens with the 3d adoption in the future like if you look at like a lot of
the art that came out of nfts the last few years it's a lot of 2d stuff because like that's what
was easy like when the uh crypto punks dropped and board a punk i'm sorry and board a dropped um
there weren't a lot of tools to do the randomization of assets
and create a bunch of collections out of mixed traits.
And then pretty soon, websites popped up
where you could just upload your JPEGs or your PNGs,
and it would automatically spit out your collection with JSONs
and you could get all your files ready to go
and you could run your NFT collections.
But all that stuff took a while for it to show up.
And it made it easy for people to be able to do certain steps without having technical knowledge on how to do blockchain coding.
And that was really nice.
So with all those steps that happened, there was really technically capable people that learned how to do this.
Like they were doing like first, you know, just one project at a time.
They did it enough times that they were like, oh, okay, cool.
I get the recipe now and I can code it into a website.
And now I can just make it so anybody can just pop in and use it.
And they don't have to hire me and you know waste three weeks of my time
to do this thing instead i can write this code like after maybe a month of working on this template
and they can either pay like almost nothing or just have it for free and just pay for the ads
and like that's a way of supporting the developer from now on and so like there's these different
ways of monetizing what comes next and i think
one of the interesting things that not a lot of projects have had a chance to really be able to
focus on is the the growing of their ip in a way that it's like the long-term ip it's not just like
oh you got some drawings oh they're cool it's a it's a dude with a hat nice like but think of it more like what happened with like disney and we think
of this idea because it's like um it just revolves around a lot of things that have affected the world
today but the the interesting thing is like emil was first this little character dude was first
but he was drawn one time and then like he was
never drawn in another animation again like this dude just like made him once and he was like cool
well that's it and like that was that like so there's no first second third episode of this
cartoon like the dude just made him once and then he did another one that was like completely
unrelated and then i think he did a third one and then like that was it like the dude stopped and then um
came like a different generation of them uh soon after and another ramden thought i came across when i was doing this but little nemo isn't didn't start with a fish like uh the second
full animated cartoon was called little nemo and it came out
like i think in 1912 or something like that and it was like much longer it had different characters
it was like colorized it had like human looking people and it was like i think 4 000 or 2 000
frames something like that i can't i can't remember how long it was but it was much much longer than
this um this emile one and because it was, but it was much, much longer than this Emile one.
And because it was the first time that they funded it specifically to be like, this is a cartoon.
They got to claim that they were the first produced film, or animated film.
Because it kind of sort of led on to say that the other one was more like an experimental film,
and so it wasn't really like a really produced film it was just like a test but the the point of it goes to the same thing
it's like um in that same era when little nemo came out so a few years after this neil thing
came out there was this long trail of experimenting uh uh teens so like to anyone who's in nfts uh i always kind of suggest
now for everybody who's like a team of creators or team lead uh or anyone who speaks on on the
stuff who's just interested in nfts uh to check out what happened at the beginning of the internet
like early 90s and at the beginning of animation like early 1900s, because there's so many things that rhyme between the two
because it was at the edge of technologies
that were just being born
and a bunch of people experimenting cool, fun, weird things
and a bunch of teams that didn't make it past
that initial stage who just kind of disappeared
and we never heard of them again.
And it's super interesting when you go back and look and you see how like so many of these
animations just kind of like you look at them and you're just like oh that's cool but like it kind
of sucks and it reminds me of like so many of the nft projects where it's like oh that's cool
but like i'll probably forget this in five years and And then you catch some that you're like, oh, okay, this is sick.
I'll remember.
And it turns out that's literally why Disney's cartoons stood out
across the test of time.
Like, if you look at Steamboat Willie,
I'll just probably end with this.
Like, if you look at Steamboat Willie,
you notice that, like, the animations are all,
he's always bouncing and kind of, of like dancing in the whole thing.
And if you notice the way that things jump around, dance, and bounce, it's always in fours because everything is to the beat.
And the reason Steamboat Willie was such an iconic thing that stood out was because it was the first animated cartoon that was recorded with synchronized music.
And the way that they had to record it was with the band live watching the cartoon
where they were recording it.
And as they were recording it, they had to have a way of keeping track of the beat.
And so the animators baked the beat into the cartoon by having the little dudes bounce around.
And that's how the orchestra could
tell and the animators could tell when the orchestra was going to play certain parts of the
music and when certain things had to happen and when they recorded they had to record everything
in one go so it wasn't like now that you record certain pieces and like you could edit it and
sample them and stick them together and the first recording went so bad that they couldn't use it
and walt disney who wasn't rich at the time had to sell his car to be able to record it again
so um in in that kind of rabbit hole is sort of like where we find ourselves right now as
nft creators and community builders it's like we're putting in a lot of effort into a lot of
world building and character building and ip building and we're taking huge risks to do it
and at the same time there's there's a huge possibility for for the rewards to play out for
us because there's so much time that these ideas will continue to compound. And essentially, the interest of an idea sort of compounds as well exponentially.
And over time, the best that we can hope for is that these things that we're building grow to the point that they can be nostalgic.
An anchor of nostalgia 20 years from now.
So that when we're older people can
say oh i remember when i was little my dad used to like watch this thing and now it's like it's
coming back or like it's never left and so like it's this thing that we grew up with and like
just look back to like marvel and dc comic book. That's another story that went all kinds of up and down
and went really, really far down
before it was rekindled into life
and the whole Marvel universe thing
is now a multi-billion dollar empire.
And so it's kind of where I'm trying to bring the thought
for everybody who's on here working on projects.
It's like, think of the idea of creating your characters as one step.
And then consider the possibility of expanding the story
so that your characters never disappear, essentially.
And they can continue to build out this legacy of character.
Because the story is going to be what connects your character
into the possibility of the future because without that it's just another drawing
and as he continues to make better drawings it's the stories and the human connections of the people
that tell their stories and each other's stories that we see in these characters um that propel them into the
future and so like um yeah i don't know i just i think that's just such an interesting and and
fascinating aspect to nfts and creating stuff in the blockchain and uh and that's just kind of why
i got into it um because i just thought the idea of creating assets that you can put into the chain
that once we build the rest of the stuff correctly we'll be able to bring in kind of like ready
player one those assets the whole the whole ready player one idea that like these assets and these
storylines and these means live on and you can bring them on to any side of the metaverse is
kind of supposedly this decentralized idea of nfts that like once we build them and then we build the infrastructure
around them correctly we'll be able to take these nfts to any other game any other place but we have
to be able to like build those systems and create those bridges and in the meantime and once we get
there the goal is going to be to create stories because it's the stories that convey the value of your nfts and of your communities
that was extremely interesting you now sent got me um wanting to go down the rabbit holes i've
been down many rabbit holes before and now you got me all wondering about all that because
um where you started you've mentioned so many things i'm not going to be
able to call on everything but you know you mentioned basically we a lot of us kind of grew
up on the internet you know i was young ish when we had like dial-up back then so we did we didn't
really have internet until i got into like primary school right really um when we and then we moved onto
like a farm and i i had to use like wireless basically um but but then i got into high school
and you know me and my friends we couldn't really get together like you just said also with like
covert and stuff where everybody was kind of isolated so i was growing up on the farm and the
only way that i could spend time with my friends was basically online. And at that point in time, I didn't want to do the whole solo playing games and those
stories and stuff.
I didn't like it because I enjoyed being with other people and experiencing these things
with someone and your friends, especially is obviously very cool to be able to experience.
especially is obviously very cool to be able to experience.
And then, you know, and as I now got older, you know, the competitive competitiveness
gets a little bit much sometimes.
So and and I at some point I started playing some single player game and it just blew my
mind and it just was like, how many other games of this like are out there?
These stories, like you say say and these these characters and stuff
and then and now you mentioned with like nfts and how i i see these nfts as being their own
characters as well like you said like now i'm gonna say what cube always says these legacy
characters like uh cube was up here last uh last week he's the creator of of percy percy the penguin and he always
says you know look at mario look at um all those characters uh i i you know what we grew up with
where they came from and what they are today look at sonic where sonic started and what sonic is
today uh you can run around in a full 3d game as sonic uh
and sonic back then was awesome but sonic now was insane for me i i think is actually cool i mean
i've played one of those um and then um just look where gta started and where gta is now and i i mean gta 6 is probably going to be insane like i mean gta is never disappointed
i don't want to um yeah i i think that's going to be incredible and then to get back to nfts and
crypto and stuff uh the the characters and stuff that's getting built now and the technology like
you said is going to be like those early times of of the internet like
children are now growing up in crypto basically uh look at i mean a lot of people maybe yeah in
this space has kids that's in crypto and the the children sees these characters and and all this so
look at the the quant kid that just you know that drugged people a year ago or you know in last year
for or whenever it was for i mean it's children running around in crypto so these kids are going
to grow up in with crypto so when they get older it's going to be the norm for them because it's
just what they know like you said earlier with how uh you know we started growing up with the
internet and now this is just the internet next level, basically.
So, I mean, they call it Web3.
So, the internet back then.
More thing.
Oh, sorry, sorry. I think I was
losing connection. I thought you went quiet.
No, no, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Okay, thanks.
Think of this too.
In 20, 30 years, we're going to start dying off.
Our generation is going to start dying off.
And our kids are going to assume our digital assets.
And then they're going to take these things on in 20, 30 years and be like, oh, yeah.
This takes me back to when my dad was collecting them for the first time. Those are events that are going to events that are going to happen in our generation as we grow older we're going to pass these things on
yeah i totally agree with that and like i mean i have felt for many years before i got into crypto
that everything was a little bit stagnant you know when you looked at i mean i did mention i didn't
really watch movies but obviously you see stuff and you know what's going on in the world.
And there's, they just remake all the same shit that's been done before, because I felt
like there's no more create more, no more creativity.
And then I got into crypto and I was like, there's this whole new world of characters
and people that tell these stories and you meet all these incredible things and
um that's just and and if that gets out obviously like yet again those old stories that we all know
and grew up with i mean i'm pretty sure all of us probably in this space is uh except for luke
which is still pretty young but the rest of us is like probably in our in our 30s to 40s or maybe even a little bit older um so
yeah it's interesting to see where this is heading um i can't wait like i said we are in in in in an
incredible time and then you mentioned something earlier like with ai being able to just do so much for us that we couldn't do. Like before crypto, like my trade, right?
I'm an appliance technician.
Okay.
I'm a specialist for Bosch and Siemens.
That's what I've been doing for the past 11 years, whatever.
So I am not necessarily very creative, but since we're getting into crypto, I've gotten it,
like people has inspired me to be creative. And I've started doing things that I've never done
before. I've gotten to Blender, I've started dabbling with AI, and I've made a whole bunch
of AI stuff. I made AI 3D assets and actually imported it into Nifty Island
and then did a,
did a, you know,
for like a giveaway and stuff.
Like I did video editing,
which I've never done before.
And all this,
thanks to the people that I met
and how easy tools has gotten.
And then now I look at Osi,
like fucking hell, the stuff that he's been making with us with uh AI is just so so good like the other day he made like this Rick and
Morty kind of thing with like the portals and stuff I can't remember the characters I think
there was apes on there um but I can't remember exactly but it it was like, damn, this is so good. And I have played with Krok a lot.
I have a whole folder full of stuff that I've made, which I thought, damn, this shit blew my mind.
I mean, it took me hours to learn how to prompt properly and doing it over and over sometimes to get to the point where I got what I wanted and how I wanted it to look.
And just the stuff that it made was just so crazy. And I'm like, if it wasn't for AI, I wouldn't be
able to do this. Like, I have no fucking idea where to go and sit. And like, I get jealous of
these people that have these talents that can go and sit like, like Molly, I'm going to mention
her because she's crazy with her art. Like, she's such a good artist and red goat queen that did the uh okay some people in here might not know about the the blazing
glaze uh which is donuts um and then she like a little animated or not animated but a little
uh well yeah a little and we could say like a it's a character it's a donut character but
with like traits and stuff you know know, he has arms and legs and
he's holding stuff and it's a donut that's all glazed with all kinds of traits and stuff
that she used or she got inspired by other people like Uncle Mac with the mine. So there's that in
there where, you know, some of the glaze has like gold in it and mining picks, as an example,
which is so cool.
I love it.
And then she has some that has weed in it
because she smokes weed.
I smoke weed.
I think it's fucking cool.
Then she has the doodle, the puke,
the rainbow puke and stuff like that
because that's homage
and just that appreciation
to these incredible art
that came before and giving honor to that, which I think is very cool.
So, yeah, this is an awesome little conversation that you brought up now.
I'm going to go jump on YouTube.
You mentioned YouTube.
YouTube has been incredible.
incredible like you can go and learn almost anything on there like when i wanted to learn
You can go and learn almost anything on there.
about vertices and stuff when i got into into blender where did i want to where did where did
i go for to learn blender youtube and there's incredible people on the guy that does the donut
tutorial as an example and then you get um coffeezilla now that i mean we're in crypto so i'm
going to mention him i'm going to mention gaming because okay i like sea of thieves there's this guy called fuzzy bond there's these incredible
creators out there and these platforms and you know where we are in in nfts and crypto it gives
all these people that didn't have the means before to get out there and get known. And then as they grow, they get better stuff
and they get better equipment.
And now, five, 10 years down the line,
you have these incredible stuff that they're putting out there.
So I can't wait to see what's next in line
for a lot of these projects that's only been around for a few years or only
getting started now a lot of people there's obviously a lot that maybe it has no future
but i mean we know in here who the real builders are the people that's been around for a while
and that's still going full full steam even um i'm going to get back to like Cube or Captain Hoek.
The project is not minted out
and they are still
building. They're still here every day.
Like Captain Hoek has
Spice City. They have a GTA role-playing
server. You can get your avatar
in there. You can go and play GTA with your avatar.
They have
3D drop with 53 shaped keys you can it's fully
fully rigged up for for everything and it's not minted out and i feel like it should be it's like
25 or something maybe i think it's maybe even less now because of um uh eth that went down since the Mint went live.
But they're still building.
The art is pretty cool.
And the founder is awesome.
And then you get to Percy.
They might not be on the correct chains in brackets.
I have my fingers up doing that little thing, air quote.
Might not be the correct chains maybe.
But I think we'll we'll
get to the point where everybody everybody's gonna win and there's gonna be so many people
for all the chains and everybody's gonna win and we're all gonna be happy together uh running
around in the metaverse probably with our uh profile pictures having the time of our lives
uh one day when we're all all the and can't do anything sitting on the porch
or probably won't be sitting on the porch where people sitting in like in a fucking vr like
thing and and and in there like you can't walk in real life or do anything but you'll be able
to do everything you could have done when you were younger so uh that's probably on a porch
in the metaverse bro i'll be sitting on the porch we'll all be there we look in we'll be sitting on the porch. We'll all be there. We look in. We'll be like, get up, our Metaversal lawn.
Yeah, no, I can't wait.
It's interesting times that we are in,
and there's so many cool characters and stories and stuff.
I actually need to get into the lore of characters a little bit more,
to be honest.
I know some lore in here and
there behind some characters but i should actually be looking into um more of of that um and to learn
more uh luke you got your hand up uh no yes luke all right i literally just took a no no i just i No, yes, but how many of these characters that our kids will have
are going to still be relevant, you know? Like, I mean, there are a couple that we could say will
still have historical significance and will likely still be relevant, but I feel like in a long-term
perspective, like, there are only a handful. Like, there are, well, there's more only a handful like they're there are well there are problems more
than a handful that'll have cultural and historical relevance but there are less
than that that'll ever you know sustain themselves or make it to something
within the time that we pass away yeah and that's that's exactly what I mean
because it's like it's the story building and the IP development that
makes them relevant.
Otherwise, they're just going to be weight holders and be like, oh, look at that cool
drawing.
Oh, that's a cool monkey.
Oh, that's a nice dude with a hat, like whatever.
And then they'll never look back on them.
But it's like, consider that versus like maybe, you know, like what it's like to maybe be
from some of the generations that grew up with, like,
their dads collecting the original Spider-Man magazines and, like, stumble across, like,
first series X-Men or Spider-Man or Mega Man or Iron Man, whatever.
Like, it's that thing.
It's like there's a bunch of comics that also didn't make it and so
you know just like there's all the superhero ones that we now see in the marvel universe
there's a bunch of other ones that like we never heard of like they just made a few they stopped
and then like some people have them in their garages and like nobody cares because like they
just kind of came and went and now they're just like a weird little cult classic but like in the
general sense like nobody even knows about them now.
And so like the same absolutely is going to happen
to the Nifty projects.
Like 95% of these will just disappear into the abyss.
And a few others are going to get developed out.
And out of those,
only a few are going to actually get developed out
to the point that they can stand the test of time.
And what I'm just saying
is that like that's absolutely going to happen like we're going to definitely pass on these
assets but also most of these assets are going to be like pointless but a few won't and if we
here as um project creators uh want to be part of the teams that have these assets that have some sort of cultural
relevance. The story is just like the way to go. I mean, you're playing, I think you're saying
you're playing a summer royale game, so Fortnite by chance. It's like, think of all the ways that
they've done it differently. Instead of just releasing a game and dropping out version 1, 2, 3, 4, and then just going on like that, they broke their game up into seasons.
And so you kind of followed the game through these different progressions of times in the year that they kind of were something.
kind of were something
lore into the characters and like different weapons for seasonal holidays and like stuff
that has to do with like um artists and different musicians that now have skins
like it's all this big like lore and storyline development that makes them so valuable and um and i
most of these won't matter uh but some of them will and it's it's i think the ones that
build some sort of like storyline um to follow that will kind of make a difference uh in the
long term yeah i mean yet again how did mario make it how did all these other characters make it until today
where we still know it sonic um i'm not gonna mention did you know mario started from did you
know nintendo was a gambling company before they made mario yeah they made those machines
yeah they made those oh i forget the name yeah those little machines oh oh that's a good that
was that that's that's another you'll want to look into
that fleshy believe me because the yakuza the yakuza's involved
that's really interesting um being from south africa i've told osai um nintendo is that something
i'm really familiar with um except for stuff i see you know online growing up nintendo is i've never seen
one in my life like irl i and i've been like with my work i go out obviously i meet customers and
stuff i've never seen an actual nintendo it's not a thing yeah so i have no idea about the history
i just know how strict they are obviously and how they just uh you know file law slutes about
anyone that uses their uses their stuff that's
probably the most i know about them um so yeah it's interesting though uh i
like obviously like i grew up with like like tv games which is probably like a you know like a knockoff or like a simple thing where you had those little cartridges stuff where you put it
in that little console thing um kind of like a plug and play
yeah that those consoles or this little um um cassette or whatever you call it like with like
a thousand games on there or something where you had all these uh different games with like a
motorbike and mario and you know whatever uh there There were so many of these little games.
But, yeah.
I had an RS6 for my Nintendo DS.
It gave you, like, it was, like, a chip that you plugged in that had every game.
And it also had, like, cheat codes for every game.
So I could literally get, like, any Pokemon I wanted and fucking trade them to kids at school for like whatever i wanted of theirs you
know because i literally get any pokemon i could fucking trade them for like you know some real
toys or some real food or some shit and they just and all i needed was that rs6 bro fucking printed
damn that's crazy the closing when i had to if i wanted to play pokemon i had to get like an
emulator on my pc because the pokemon games i, I used to, obviously, growing up with Pokemon,
I still have a bunch of Pokemon cards there in the cupboard.
Pokemon was so cool.
I loved the whole aspect of the evolving of the characters.
That's one thing.
Probably also why I like the whole mutations and stuff from being one thing to another,
probably in the nft space
um yeah so yeah it's interesting to see yet again uh what's what's next and you know who's gonna
make it and who's not gonna make it like yeah there's a lot of people that's not gonna make
it like look i mean you're launching a project soon yours could be a legacy thing in 10 or 20 years. It depends on who does what. And like,
you can have amazing community members that maybe takes your characters or that IP, if there's IP,
and they tell stories with it, or they add on to the story, or it depends on what you guys
obviously do with it and how it grows. And it can also become this massive thing that will be remembered um in in
time like the crypto punks i'm pretty sure is is stamped in time like in in 2014 oh yeah yeah time
as everybody's still going to be talking about it i'm pretty sure like the bases and the macy's is
going to be one of those you know they they they were one of the the first and biggest projects out there so they are stamped
in in time and there's going to be a lot of those that's going to be uh um the the ones that survive
like i think like jb like the mask cats like he survived and depending and the way he's building
and growing like he he might be one of those as well in ten years, five years from now, that's still running around, people running around as different mask cats still, or alien cats,
or playing with the Metazoku.
Imagine you can be driving around in the game or in the Metaverse or whatever with your
Metazoku bike.
Or for those that want AI girlfriend, there's your Metazoku, um or for those that uh once ai girlfriend you know there's your metazoku
she comes with a female rider so you know there you go um you know it's all set bike any goal
and um you know it's it's and it looks cool and stuff so but you know we never know what
what could be eventually so yeah it's it's it's uh interesting times that we have uh chris do you have your hand
up sir no i didn't oh i think yeah spaces are lagging i can't even see you being on
you know i was i was gonna say that um in regards to pupils i would absolutely love it if it were
you know ip that became renowned.
But I think that I'm not saying that we're not going to pursue this or we can't, but I think IP is a very difficult play here.
IP is difficult to develop, takes a lot of work.
Even the biggest IPs in Web 3 haven't really made it to web two for the most part so number one priority in terms of
sustainability and being long lasting is creating a sustainable business that has revenue that
you know is something that is paying me and you know the team everyone involved to work on it is
returning value to the holders and it's just something that can be long lasting because
if the only way that we're taking in any money is mint funds and what the fuck i'm just like what the fuck are we gonna do you know like
it's not like i need to buy a lambo but i need to pay rent and i have two cars i have a dog you
know i'm not saying that needs to fund everything else i also have a business irl you know but like
just in general um i'm just saying that you know it has to have cash flow and revenue to be sustainable.
And eventually I would like it to be the only thing I do,
but that's got to be years down the line to figure out how to make it an FT project,
be able to pay someone sustainably like $80,000, $90,000 a year.
That's not the plan right off the bat.
But anyway, this is just probably being too transparent for my own good.
Not everyone needs to know the inner workings of where money goes exactly, but
it's also web three.
So you kind of do if you put anything in a wallet, but anyway, yeah, I don't know.
I feel like it starts sounding kind of bad when I'm like, I need this project to pay
for my, you know, for everything.
But like, if, you know, I'm going to be running a project that becomes a business for years
that at some point it should.
Right.
And then if it's paying for everything
for me, then it's going to be long-lasting
and can deliver value back to everyone.
Luke rug?
Yeah, Luke just rug.
Yeah, I don't hear him. Uh-oh.
Yeah, well, I agree with what you said.
I mean, just look at him.
Oh, he's back. He's back.
He's talking too much alpha.
There's too much alpha.
Yeah, but I mean, I get what you're saying, Luke.
I mean, obviously, you mentioned earlier already
you don't want to be a part of something that's not long-term.
And you've mentioned it multiple times
while we were speaking. So, you know, I tend to believe what you say. You want to be around
people that's going to be still down the line, supporting you or whatever. So, and I do hope
that it works out that way for everyone. I mean, again, everybody deserves to win. We can all win.
There's enough people in the world and only like a small fraction of them
in crypto at this time.
So eventually we all can win together.
Everybody has different tastes in art.
Some people might not like your art even.
So it just depends.
There might be millions that like it eventually.
We'll see, obviously, when we get there um there's every
something for for everything for everyone out there so yeah um what else what else guys is
there anybody out down in the audience that wants to jump up there's been there's people that's been
around for the whole space i just want to say thank you it's been long i actually went over the first space
by 20 minutes so far or 18 minutes um probably can still run it longer if anybody wants to speak
decoup i see is in here um he can come up um out tom if you want to come speak up um yuki
i removed everything that was pinned up top but i noticed something about like poker i don't
know if you wanted to come speak up about it i didn't even know i think you're i don't know
what's the whole thing with the poker stuff you're hosting poker tournaments and stuff
if you want to talk about it um you're more than welcome uh so just request the mic if you want
and then um yeah uh oh you mentioned Chris something about Fortnite earlier
and the whole storytelling
I think that's one of the coolest things
that Fortnite did
was the whole
season change and
like telling a live story
that's what I was saying earlier
playing a single game, I want to play single player games
but I want to enjoy it with people as well
because it's crazy games I wish people would play but i or i would like to play with them
like just off my head cyberpunk 2077 one of the biggest games ever uh you can say what you want
uh there was a lot of shit but whatever they sorted it out but it's still a crazy game
just the story behind it is just so so crazy as well the whole chip thing in your head and you
can go into the internet basically and and stuff like that and you know that it's it's
so so so cool it's such a cool story um and like i'm on my third playthrough like back
in the day you would never catch me playing in one game over again i was like why what's the point and then
like i the second time i played it like there's this one section in the game in the beginning where this guy your partner um dies like next to you in the car and i cried like both
like the third time i didn't cry um i um i cried the first two times because it's was so emotional i get so
attached to this you get so attached to these characters and stuff in these stories and um
well i do uh but i mean i just wish that like i could experience that with with my friends or
with my family even with like my mom which you which grew up in a different time. So they don't really
get this whole gaming thing or the whole internet thing because different times. I was listening to
Osai. Sorry, I'm going to mention your mom on his face now. But she was kind of going on about
Osai's sister, fuck his daughter, which is like she's eight years old like litigan
she like internet and youtube and fucking fortnite and all this is literally her life uh basically
and so she spends some time she plays with osai and with me sometimes which i think is pretty cool
playing being able to i i don't have kids but being able to play these games and then these all kinds of other multiplayer
games with your daughter or your son or whatever or your wife or your girlfriend and experience
these things together like there's a game on steam where you play it's a multiplayer game
it did very very well it was very well received. A lot of partners played it,
a husband and wife. I can't remember what it was. And it was just so cool to be able to see people
experience these things together and having to work together in a different kind of situation
out of the real world and getting across, overcoming obstacles and stuff in these games.
So, Yuki, I did accept your request.
If you want to speak up about the poker thing, what that's all about.
I think he's on here.
Yuki, you can go ahead now.
You were probably connecting.
Yeah, there's like 15 seconds delay
when you switch from listener to speaker.
Yeah, I touched about the poker game
like an hour ago,
but I'm happy to mention again.
Every Friday, we have this this tournament it's open to
for it's open to everyone it's free we have amazing prizes from all of our sponsors including
another punk club spunky ovizores orgone i should have a list because i mentioned all this earlier Spunky, Ovisors, Orgaon Ape.
I should have a list
because I mentioned all this earlier
and I'm doing a very bad job representing.
I'm sorry, I do apologize.
I don't know if that was maybe
when I was having internet connection problems
because I-
I think it was.
But yeah, it's all good.
I mean, we're happy to welcome everyone. It lasts about two hours
and a half. Every other tournament so far, we've had more than 120 people. The highest
was 146 people playing with us. This is the fourth edition coming tomorrow. We're very
excited. The prizes are really, really cool. We're giving away like eight or nine
NFTs, some white lists as well for upcoming project. So it's really worth it. It's completely
free. We're running a stream on OVI for the final tables. And I hopefully will have a space on X at the same time
while we play so we can talk
about the sponsors and everything
about Ape Chain
so yeah, that's
the small project I'm building
it's getting bigger, it's getting bigger
fast, I'm very happy with it
and it's
yeah, it's overwhelmingly successful'm very happy with it and it's uh yeah it's overwhelmingly successful and very happy
to to uh to organize this and to be supported by by so many sponsors
that's very cool um i haven't really played poker much um i'm i think that's the one where you need like 21, right? I think to be all around 21.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't, I've honestly even never,
I played poker one time in GTA
with the Chillin' Chillies
and had no idea what I was doing.
Out of all the card games,
that's one game I've never played,
just like chess.
Out of all the board games I've played,
I've never played chess.
Well, so you get two cards and on the table you get five cards and it's whoever get the best combination of five cards
wins wins the game and then you you place your bets and goes around and that's it's pretty fun
it's pretty easy it's yeah pretty fun i'll have to look into it there's been so many poker games going on lately uh that i
probably could have joined that i didn't because i just don't know how to play it i've never really
been into gambling uh nothing it's never really fazed me um i think in some games uh i might have
like played it a little bit but just like messing around basically um was um yeah because i didn't really
really care much about that but i'll i'll definitely check it out it sounds cool
i don't know if that's what yeah let's be honest about it the other day
let's be honest if you're if you're into nfts you're a gambling addict we all are
well um i feel a little bit different about that i don't see nfts as gambling um because probably
because i have i because so i i don't want to say that but i mean so you're telling me if you hold
the g's it's gambling i don't see it as gambling osai holding a macy i don't see it as gambling
uh even though he might have bought it at the time and he's down now but that doesn't matter to me
I think that I still see it as an investment in in those people because I believe in RIDA
and I believe in the in the boarded yacht club so um like I held like I have spunkies like I
don't see it as a gamble I see it as an investment so yeah and not just that i also just love the art
and like i said i was a gamer i like collecting so uh and rare stuff and cool stuff so if i had
the money i would be a whale and probably everything uh or not everything but there's a lot of very
very cool art out there and very cool builders so yeah I mean I get what you're saying uh people have
said that to me before but I disagree um pretty much to a point but we're all free to our own
opinion right I just I'm just mostly talking about the excitement of minting and the lottery uh
aspect of it like trying to get the rare or something something interesting at mint and
getting the excitement and yeah i'm hoping it's gonna get well sure i mean i just see that as
exciting as you know i i'm excited for what i'm gonna get like if it's a rare obviously for me
like like osai i was speaking to somebody yesterday likeai, like I like rare stuff, but there's
some people that don't really care about that.
Osai buys and sells what he likes.
If it's something that's not rare and he likes it, he buys it.
So, you know, some people be minting, might be minting and just are happy with what they
get because it's still cool, just the whole thing and how it works.
Well, that's yet again, just for for me probably because i'm still so new i mean i'm only like encrypt like in
nfts like 10 months now uh it's not even a year yet so for me it's all still very fun um i don't
see it in that way probably i don't know why uh my mind is probably just set a bit different in in this space and i see a
different uh future for nfts and stuff and for crypto uh there might be a lot of that is aspect
in crypto but that's what needs to be fixed still so that's what i was saying earlier there's still
a lot of that's not right um there's a big aspect of that obviously in crypto yes but it shouldn't be that or it doesn't have
to be that way um but anyway oh si you guys wanna we're gonna wrap this up uh it's been almost four
hours now i guess yeah no you're good i've been stretching around yeah so i can can grab something to eat quickly and grab a drink and then
I am probably
going to go see if anyone's on
Fortnite yet or what everybody
else is up to. I see Luke on
there. I just jumped
on a second ago.
Oh, okay.
I think it's...
I'm jumping off here
it was a great space so I gotta go hang out
with the family for a bit and stuff
but yeah congratulations on another
awesome space and keep on
doing it because I'll be back for the other ones
Thank you Gambler
I appreciate the support always
you're a great guy as well
great community member and an awesome person
and I love that you and that you spent the time with us.
Chris, any final words?
No, just was this your first space or like literally like your first space
broken up into two parts?
Yes, that is correct.
Last week we had episode one, part one.
I ended up making some mistakes before the space
because I don't know what the fuck I was doing, obviously.
And ended up inviting too many people
because I was like, I want to get all these amazing people
that I met from how I got into NFTs
was through Cube that I've mentioned earlier, the founder of Percy.
I stumbled across him on Pump.Fun, where they tried to launch a coin basically for his NFT collection.
He has an OG collection from 2021.
He has an OG collection from 2021.
And then he did Percy 2.0 on Polygon,
which is still minting.
And it comes with the 3D avatar.
And then all the assets that he's made,
like there's so many assets.
And the more Percy's you mint,
the more shit you get.
And he's made so many stuff
and he's still making stuff.
It's pinned at the top.
It's the only pin that's left.
There's Cube's pin.
Cube is an amazing guy. Give him a follow check out what he's done the people that's working with him is
absolutely incredible um that one guy has like blended experience for 10 years uh bogey he's
absolutely insane the stuff that he's made i sat with him in discord watching him make a percy
snorting green candles, which was
so cool because Percy the penguin doesn't give a fuck.
And he got all crazy.
I need to find that video again so I can post it.
It's such a good video.
And I was there giving Voguey like ideas and he ended up using some ideas.
Like just it's so, so cool.
And did everything in Blender,
the whole animation, everything he made in Blender.
I'll DM it to you.
I got the file.
I'll send it to you on Discord.
I got you, bro.
It's such a good, it's beautiful.
I mean, you know, and they're always so keen,
like how they play some music and things and stuff.
Even I'm looking up above i'm like
you know like you know i i've been you know dabbling with ai music and he's using a bunch
of my ai music and stuff in the game and the different games and stuff that he's building
and i'm just like the way he's even putting songs again i'm like oh that's cool you know and then
like the little penguin ad-libs and you know I'm just like, this is crazy. You know, these creators are just
creating and they're just going hard.
Yeah. It's so cool. So, yeah, I mean, when I got into crypto, literally just over a year
ago, basically the beginning of March last year is when I got into crypto started jumping
onto spaces started speaking up told people my story where I come from why was there met some
incredible people that got me in tears I was on my phone I'll never forget it like I phoned my mom
one day like in tears when somebody like randomly,
literally it was like two days after stumbling upon this like community.
I don't know anybody in here that remembers the,
Oh fuck tweet from last year slurfs.
That's basically where my crypto journey started.
So it might've been a very crazy,
a lot of people might've not liked it,
but for me it's still,
I still have that post uh bookmarked it's one of the only two posts i have ever bookmarked
um and it um yeah a random guy that's been in crypto for forever heard my story and he just dm'd me and he was like send me a. And he sent me like two sol back then, which was being in South Africa was so much money.
I just broke down and now I'm getting emotional again, but I found my mom and it was just,
I couldn't believe it.
Like what just happened. Yeah, man. Well, I just wanted to say awesome work getting this first and a half second space
started. And I wish you the best opening up more of these. And I hope that you keep on going, on going man don't give up and i think you're going to just keep on just growing and expanding
some conversation that needs to happen here in web 3 and i just wanted to extend the thank you
for opening the space and uh you know please invite me into the next ones that you have because
i think these conversations are awesome.
Sorry, I stopped speaking there. I got a bit emotional there
so I just had to stop.
I thought I was rugging.
I thought I was rugging, bro.
You should have made it.
We need to make a code word where you just
say some random word and then I'll
just start cutting it.
Yeah, I thought somebody would jump in.
I thought maybe somebody heard the cracking
in my voice um so that's why i just uh quite up but yeah i don't want to be the guy that always
cries on spaces but uh that's basically where i started like my at is the emotional man um i
started with with that and that will be me uh some girl told me someday that i'm i'm an emotional guy and i was like bucket whatever
that's me i'll be that that's who i am and um that's yeah and i'm still that person so
you know love it hate it i i i'm just gonna be me um that that's the best way everybody says and
since then people believed in me um from since then, I made the joke on the first place where if you asked me a
year ago if I would be here now, I would probably say yes. I said no first, but actually yes,
because since then, people have said they believe in me and they think that I can be
a voice of South Africa and getting people, this great space, which is crypto
and NFTs and stuff. So thank you, Chris, for coming up. I really appreciate what you had
to say. It was really cool. Yuki, go ahead with your final words.
Yeah, great space, man. A little too long for me. I had to go walk the dog and then swim a little bit.
I came back. I was here the first hour and I think I was here the last hour, but in between I
went missing for a minute. Very interesting. Thank you for all the projects that came up and
presented their vision and their projects. Thank you for hosting. Thank you for you for hosting.
Thank you to you for hosting.
Thanks, Luke, for his good word
and smart vision of the space.
And I hope I hear more about his own project
instead of always, always, always promoting Spunkies.
Spunkies are cool.
AIO is family.
But if you've got something to say,
if you're building something,
you should talk about it.
Because I think that the greatest project,
if it's made by someone that's very shy,
it will never seize the public and the audience.
So yeah, you got to be talented,
but you also have to be uh good at
promoting your own which is uh something i'm not very good at and i'm pushing myself to do it all
the time and uh and i i i strongly advise for everyone to to do the same uh yeah and that's uh
that's a wrap for me uh Yeah, that's it. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Yuki, for that.
I appreciate it.
I do agree.
I think Luke is extremely smart as well.
I think he's very clever, clever guy.
So that's why I have faith in what he has planned
or what he wants to do, because I think he can do it he seems
very deterministic or determined deterministic determined to um to get something done like
I saw weeks ago when he was in Denver or before Denver he posted like this video where he
was like he's looking for people to connect with, to do something that's different. I don't know if you look, if you can remember that, but I remember.
I pay attention.
I see shit.
And yeah, it's just interesting to see.
I can't wait to see what you have in mind and what you have planned.
Luke, if you have any words, go ahead.
Yo, sorry.
Shiba was calling me and I wanted to talk to him really bad about his face this morning.
If you were there, I just want to talk about some of the things on his mind and whatnot.
And like, I appreciate it.
I do agree that I'm doing, I mean, obviously myself a disservice by not being more of an advocate and outspoken promoter of my project.
And given that I have high conviction and, you know, want to do something that isn't a rug and provides way more about like not even just isn't a rug like something epic that
will hopefully be somewhat revolutionary and provide a lot of value to people then i'm doing
everyone a disservice and um obviously if goals are reached maybe even giving doing web3 a disservice
because you know or at least the nft space maybe web 3 as a whole will
be fine with it but i think any contributor matters for web 3 actually so um maybe doing web 3 uh
disservice comes before doing the nft space a disservice because like like nfts i feel like
have a further to go to make it than web 3 does you know web 3 is going to establish itself either
way so it's a little easier to contribute there just like anyone contributing is important and plays a role whereas nfts maybe it's harder to
actually play a role that does anything groundbreaking but maybe i'm wrong but anyway
i don't think i'm that smart to be honest oh dude you want to talk to a smart guy i know you're about
to wrap up but super high gas fees is really smart i don't know if you guys have met him
he's like he's someone who honestly inspires me and i'm really glad to have connected with because he's not only trying to like create an
nft project he's also yeah he has a business that sells online that is directly tied to his ip so
it's like his ip does go beyond web 3 but like i know we've talked about like what i want to figure
out and what he wants to figure out and i feel like they're kind of similar but he's obviously already got his collection out has his community and is doing
his thing building so um he's a cool dude that you should talk to but anyway like i was about to say
and not to discredit myself amen amen with that one no like lesson three and all that oh man dude
yeah they're they they're one of the i I gotta say they're probably one of the first that
were really pioneering and bringing
communities, like a lot of communities
together and not
really so much a
financial way.
You know, because they also got the, you know, like
the naked army and all that type of stuff.
Okay, I was going to ask ask yeah i just want to say
oh go ahead oh yeah no um the the less than three uh is pretty cool like i've seen them since uh you know in like in last year last year somewhere um osaiai told me about it and I saw it on the timeline
and I was like, oh, these are pretty dope.
I love the art.
Yeah, Subai Gas Feast is up on the stage.
What up, dude?
What's up, guys?
Thank you guys for all the kind words.
I just saw that Luke was speaking in here,
so I popped in and um you
guys are being really nice so i decided i would i would join to speak how is everyone
well i'm doing great uh we've been here for for four hours i was just about to close it up but
i don't mind keeping it open for for a little while longer um if you want to speak up i don't mind keeping it open for a little while longer. If you want to speak up, I don't know too much about the project.
Like I just said, like I'm still, I still see myself as new to NFTs, even though I've
been here for 10 months, I'm still new.
I'm still learning so much.
There's a lot of stuff I didn't see and stuff, but I mean, I didn't really look into it.
Osai has told me some stuff about it because Osai has been around for forever.
Well, not forever, but for quite a bit longer than I have.
And he knows the project quite well.
But yeah, please go ahead.
If you want to tell us a little bit more about it or what you're busy with
or what's planned for the future, go ahead.
I'm so honored to have you here.
It's always a pleasure having guys, these big builders
or people that's been around for forever to be able to speak to them.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Yeah, I mean, basically, we're just trying a lot of different things to try to get regular people to be interested in NFTs. And the way that we
are approaching that, and I've like talked to Luke about it a lot is like, you have to like,
uh, like, or at least what I think is like, you have to, um, you have to make a brand that people
like, you know, like you have to build a brand
that people are interested in. I think like, I've been seeing it a lot lately. Like there's like
a few projects coming out that like are starting off and they're doing it like completely different.
They're like starting off before they even launched their project. They're like going
viral on Tik TOK. Like I just saw some project on abstract and then
this other project called odd kids on Solana. I think it's called odd kids. Yeah. Yeah, it is.
They're like taking an approach that I think is so healthy, which is just like building a brand
on these other platforms and then just treating NFTs as as one of your like core products you know and i
think that that's like essentially that's like kind of what i i see ocs is wearing like a mutant ape
like i think that's kind of what apes did successfully like almost on accident like they
they like built a brand that like exploded in the real world and they
had all these people wearing eight pfts like all these like celebrities were getting in and
you know it was a lot to do with like timing and stuff that but um i think that like
they essentially like started that and um and then like pudgy penguins kind of took it
and they like built on top of that idea of like, kind of like trying to take over the internet
with your brand. And I think, um, the more projects that do that. So just to give some
background, like we have like 100K followers across social platforms,
like on TikTok and Instagram combined.
And we're like really big on that front.
Like we post, like we sell our products and we post content and we do that whole thing.
And we try to like, you know, get people interested in that way in just like our brand.
like you know get people interested in that way in just like our brand and i think like
introducing nfts is like something that comes gradually um but i'm kind of just yapping
honestly like if somebody wants to wants to add in like go ahead um but yeah uh yeah so i thought yeah i was just gonna say oh sorry i thought you were jumping
sooner you can take over now i was in the kitchen so my apologies for not being ready
but no it's pretty cool um what what you're doing um yeah whatever we need to do to try and reach a
broader audience i think i've seen some of your
posts where you've i've shared like the the numbers of reach on some of your videos i see so
many things sorry i have like i'm almost close i'm just 17 000 like likes and retweets and
like in the past year getting into crypto so like i don't remember everything, but I see like shit.
But I mean, that's one way of reaching people in Web 2, like you said,
and how to get them into Web 3.
I think I've seen some unboxings even of your brand, if I can recall,
where somebody were unboxing like a little heart or something along those lines um that was you know going viral and on one of those other platforms um so obviously your your stuff is
reaching reaching so that's great yeah thank you and and i don't know if like, I don't know if that's necessarily like the answer for NFTs is like to like try to build a real brand and, you know, like do stuff like that, like go viral and have like influencers doing unboxing videos and, you know, and, um, really just our goal with LT3 is just to like,
try to, to, you know, like grow the pie a little bit. And like, even if we can get one person
who's not into NFTs, like to buy our NFTs for that reason and like, not think about it in terms of like, okay, maybe I can buy this NFT and flip it
and, you know, like profit from it. It's like, okay, I actually really like this brand. Let me
like join the discord and see what's going on in here. And let me like, um, eventually buy an NFT to be a part of like the, the core community of this brand,
you know? And I think there's like, there are a lot of people who are doing this now,
you know, but like, uh, when we first had the idea, like it wasn't as mainstream, I guess,
like when we started trying this, like we, cause we, we basically
started off marketing on Tik TOK. Like when we first started our brand, we didn't like go and
launch the NFTs. Like we didn't go straight to Twitter and market here. We like marketed on
Tik TOK initially. And, um, during this time it was like pudgy penguins were
just starting to like go on their, their like growth sprint, you know? So we were like, um,
I think now it's like, kind of, like I said, I can't remember the names of the projects, but like
I saw one project on abstract with like 150 K on Tik TOK before they even
released. So it's kind of like a pretty common way of doing things now. But, um, when we were
starting, it wasn't, it wasn't, uh, quite as common, but it's, I think it's good because
it's essentially like we, I think we were thinking in the right direction, you know?
Cause like, it was at a time, like when we started building it, it was like 2022.
Things were kind of like getting really bad, you know?
Like, I think like, I remember Renga came out and it was like one of the few projects that was doing really well.
like one of the few projects that was doing really well um but like if you guys were around in those
days which i'm sure a lot of you were like you remember that things were not like they were not
the best um yeah that was an interesting time i even somehow looking in my those those hidden dms
like apparently one of their ambassadors reached out to me.
I was like, wow. But I but I was around then. And I'm like, oh, this is kind of wild.
It was just a lot of drama, you know, a lot of projects are.
But some projects get out of that drama, make through the war.
I mean, we've seen like a Zuki and some others really break through.
We've seen like Izuki and some others really break through.
I mean, even it's just wild to see the whole Luka Nets coming in, sweeping up Pudgy and killing it.
Like, because I think, you know, whether it's the board ape, what Luka did, or even like Gary Vee, you know, that's where, you know, the whole unboxing, you're talking about the unboxing and everything.
That's, you know, how I think a lot of normal people, regular people are attracted to Gary Vee.
And they're like, oh, what's this new trading thing?
He's got this, people are collecting, people are selling it, people are, and they're unboxing.
So it gives that vibes of like, whoa.
And I've even got a couple of different things and tried doing unboxing.
One thing I was like, I need something strapped to my forehead.
So I couldn't do it.
But I got a little, what was it from, what is it, Young and Sick, you know, winning it from Nifty Island.
Like, little stuffed alien cat thing, you know, and it was just like, it felt cool doing that.
You know, you feel like, you know, it brings back nostalgic, even just like, you know, showing your group of friends the new Pokemon card you just got here or what you just did in in your, you know, what you just made in your Minecraft for, you know, younger generations now.
You know, like something like my daughter should be like coming up like, whoa, you know, look at what I made, you know, and I'm just like, how long did that make?
And she's like, oh, not very long.
I'm like, okay.
All right.
All right. You know, we got metaverses for things like very long like okay all right all right you you know
we got metaverses for things like that just wait a couple years you know
i mean it's just crazy you know just what what you see and and how everything's kind of coming
together and a lot of brands are starting to really take that in whether you know it's the
brand themselves or the people part of the community, you know,
like, you know, you made a parent like, you know, like my mutant, you know, I give so much props to all these people doing that made by apes and everything. And maybe one day I'll do that. But
I'm sitting and taking it, I'm still learning, still grasping other things, still, you know,
helping friends out, you know, still, you know, play, you know, doing playing around,
just learning different markets and, and learning things from business to marketing to AI and all these different
things. And, you know, it really comes down to like, you gotta, you know, keep trying and just
make things fun. It still comes back to just making things fun, in my opinion.
Yeah, I mean, necessarily, like you said, yeah, like you said, it's not necessarily
the right avenue, you know, with these videoing, video tools or whatever, or, you know, whatever
you want to call those things, Instagram and Snapchat or whatever they use.
I've never really been into all that shit.
I mean, literally, I only got twitter like a year ago
uh didn't really ever bother me until i felt like i wanted to use social media to maybe make life
better for people over here you know like how do you reach people how do you bring to people's
attention that there's people out there that can use some assistance and stuff and i thought you
know why not social media and that's how i got into x and then i stumbled into crypto and that's how i am yeah you know um long story short for the for for that but uh a lot of
people speak about experiment experimentation that's a word i've been hearing being thrown
around a lot lately in the space um experiments people experiment with stuff. It's experiment, blah, blah, blah. So that's the only way we're going to know how else.
We need to try all these different routes and things to reach these people.
And one of it might work.
They all might work.
One of them might strike gold and bring the masses.
But it might be all of it.
There might be somebody down here in the audience that's busy working on something that might really revolutionize crypto fuck knows who knows uh look just what
look what uncle mac just did with the mine which is something that hasn't been done um
and and and then obviously there was people that basically i think basically copied copied this
idea i don't want to maybe say that. Might be wrong.
But that other thing that launched the other day, Luke, that you were a part of, I mean, that came afterwards.
Yeah. I wasn't working on it, but, you know.
You know, I was just going to chime in and say that.
What was I going to chime in with?
I was going to say that, like, experimenting in this stuff is fine.
But I think, like, especially when you're doing a paid mint nowadays,
it depends on what it is and who you are.
I'm not an artist, so why would someone mint something for me
because it's going to be a project and a business, right?
I think that when you're doing a paid mint,
an experiment is cool if that's how you want to phrase something,
but things need to be more than just something that they have no clue of what's going on like I don't want to tell
everyone everything that's going to happen because I want there to be speculation to drive some price
action and whatnot but there's going to be like you know things laid out and I feel like that's
important not just like oh let us build you'll see like we can't announce anything or like
announcements of announcements like that's not I don't know people people can do that but that's not something that
i've fuck with in terms of a project and if you ever see me fucking with something like that
ask me if i feel like i'm being blind or what the deal is please but yeah i don't fuck with it so i
don't want to do it because i don't expect people to fuck with it. No.
Sorry, Super.
I just want to say, yes, I also don't necessarily agree with it.
I'm just saying that's what I just hear.
I kind of try to emphasize it because I just see it as like a way of getting away with bullshit or rugs, calling it an experiment.
So maybe you didn't get it, yeah i was trying to like point that out um but yes that's not right i feel there is an issue with
that where i feel like the tools for launching stuff is too easy uh where everybody and anybody
can just do it like i feel there needs to be more regulation look what happened
with pump.fun they started doing live streaming anybody could live stream and they and they ended
up being the craziest that you've ever seen in your life um on on pump.fun live streams um
and and and the coins that was launched like racist like i have i have no time for that that stuff and all the that because there
was no oversight like i mean i get freedom and people having to be able to have tools to do
whatever but people can't just do whatever they want because there's people that don't have
self-control or whatever so there needs to be some regulation in place i i still think or something to look over
these things um but anyway that's my opinion i don't want to mention that now but that's maybe
a story for another space um but uh yeah i have an idea for for a mint which i thought you know
could be an experiment but if i had had the art already or the funds,
I would just do it for free, do like a free mint.
I told Osai my idea.
I think it's a good idea.
But I mean, how do I know if it's going to work or not?
That's why I want to speak to Ragadev or with Uncle Mac.
Tell them what my idea is and just ask them what they think.
And maybe one day I could try it out because I think it's an interesting idea it might be successful who knows like how
are we going to know if we don't try it right but i also don't want to just rug people or have people
mint something and then they expect more than what it could potentially be because it might not work
um so i'm not just going to do that because I'm not that kind of person.
I'd rather leave it until I maybe can do it one day and see and just try and whatever,
see how it goes, you know?
Anyway, I think Chris jumped down.
He's back up again.
And if he wanted to say something, Luke,
if he wants to-
I think super high gas fees was trying to say i think super super
high gas fees was trying to say something a minute ago i'm not sure if that was to what we were just
talking about yeah i'm i'm actually like thinking about it because i can totally see like both sides of this like okay you don't want to launch like um a project like i don't even want
it like i noticed luke was kind of saying like payments but i think like any project should kind
of have like some sort of plan in place you know because, if they don't, then the holders are just kind of like, left,
like, okay, what's going on? And like, the only people like, even if it's a free mint,
the only people who get it for free are like the initial people, you know, like there's people are
still paying money, like, right after mint, you know, so like, I feel like there should be a plan, but also like the
other side of it is like, think about like every great thing that's been done in history was like
kind of an experiment, you know, like, like Facebook, like I I'm just relating it back to
this. Cause I watched the movie a couple days ago where they were, like, creating Facebook.
And, like, dude, that, like, hadn't really been done before.
It was, like, an iteration on something that had been done.
Like, it was similar to MySpace, but it was different because they were, like, targeting colleges.
You know?
So, like, that was, like, an experiment.
And it turned into a multi-billion
dollar company. So it's like, I don't know though, because also it's like, I feel like there's kind
of a barrier to entry in Web3 where like teams should probably know what they're doing if they want to like get to that point because like pudgy penguins
i mean i think everyone can agree that like luca knows what he's doing with like internet marketing
like that whole team they know how to do internet marketing like there's no question you know like
they're in all they're in the hands of all the the famous influencers and
they're like super duper viral and um but i don't know so you guys kind of see where i'm going with
this like there's like there's kind of two sides of it that are like both really valid
yeah no i i agree with that because it's like there's got to be that balance. certain things where they have it set in, whether it's collecting data, collecting what they've done or what they're doing, you know,
and what starts unlocking for them if they're, you know, got, you know,
money involved or whatever, you know, but yeah, some type of, you know,
whether it's before they start during and throughout.
Yeah. Yeah. I totally get that I think like there should be like a level of experimentation
in in like I mean maybe not any business but like there should be a level of experimentation
that's like involved but also like i think like what luke was
saying is super valid like people should have like an a plan and an idea because like i don't know
and then what fleshy was saying too like totally makes sense because a lot of people just say that
they're like oh we're experimenting really, they're not doing anything.
Like, it's just like another way to rogue is just saying that you're like experimenting
and trying different stuff and like really nothing's happening.
So like, I get that.
So I don't know.
It's kind of, I don't really, I don't really have like a stance.
But ultimately, actually, I don't really, I don't really have like a stance, but ultimately, actually,
I think I do, bro.
I think that like, there should be some experimentation in, in web three, like overall, like I think
with these, these businesses that are being built, like, I think experimentation is like,
built. Like, I think experimentation is like, I don't know. I think that it, it, uh, it's like
decently important, honestly. Like, that's my, that's my like honest take. Like, I think that,
um, like obviously using the word experimentation as like another re like way to rug is not valid but i think that like
if there's no experimentation then it's just gonna like kind of become like i guess it would
just become like every other project like it would just be like another community that you know
they're they're like doing like community centered stuff like it's just it's gonna be like what we've already seen before like there's gonna be no new like aspect of it
where it like with that i feel like it's like yeah i don't know i i kind of go off on these
tangents and just start yapping so my bad if i'm no yeah no it makes sense because it's like trying to break out of just the
oh are you just you know are you in a what you say an ip called you know like you know there's
crazy disney people there's crazy fans of all sorts of things you know what i mean but is that
just like or do you want to break out and be an actual big you know something bigger than that
where it's you know yeah it could be that, where it's, you know, yeah, it could be that
because there's going to be the diehards, but it's kind of, you know, breaking from that.
And then also on the other side, what you're talking about is, yeah, the whole cash grabs
or what are they doing?
Are they building in public?
Are they open?
Are they, you know, either docs or if they're not docs, are they, you know, constant updating or still engaging with their, with their, you know, all the people in the project or, you know,
however it goes, you know, being transparent, you know, that's, that's a big one, you know,
even though on the blockchain, you know, don't lie, but transparency breaks hearts and breaks
feelings towards builders and, you know, things like that,
you know, it's also where it comes with honesty.
It's okay. Super high. If you go on little rambles, I said earlier, I don't think you were
here, but feel free to speak as long as you want, as long as what you're saying is, is,
is interesting or educational or whatever, you want, as long as what you're saying is, is, um, is interesting or,
educational or whatever,
you know,
it's all good.
it's,
it's a interesting conversation.
like just the whole thing,
like I mentioned earlier,
like obviously with the free mint,
it's not just the normal free mint.
So that's the whole point of why I also said like an experiment,
because I have some interesting ideas tied to it.
So it's not going to be like that mint and the trade and stuff I don't want to speak about it really
on the space just yet because it might be something it might not be something I want to go speak to
somebody that knows what they're doing like I said like rugged if and he can tell me yes or no or
you know yes get a dip on that like immediately or no don't waste your time it's
never going to work or you know tell me it might be an interesting idea and then if they think it's
an interesting idea as well like i i would believe them because they know what the they're doing they
just in released some cool so um with this deterministic mining tool uh for picking winners and stuff it's so cool like
using hash rates and stuff to determine a winner of nfd price and it's proven on chain
um and yeah who yeah it's it's just cool stuff so it's that's what we're here for so I mean
imagine they didn't do that like and they didn't try that little experiment. And now look what gets going to come from that.
And people can build on that.
Like I had some ideas.
I even DMed Uncle Mac and he was like, yeah, but we can't build everything.
You literally said it on the stage.
We can't build it all.
And I had a cool thought for what they could have added to the mine.
But you know, if I, if I was a dev or knew the right people, they probably could have
built something on top of the mine.
And people can still do that.
You can use your... I'm not sure if you
know about the mine, but you can
use your LT3s
maybe and give utility
to the mines or vice versa
or with the gold ores or
fucking whatever. And depending on what's coming
next in Season 2,
which will probably be soon
or the next section of the mine um let's see uncle mac i hope he comes around next time so we can
ask him some stuff he's not here anymore but uh yeah we never know like we don't know what
they're building they're probably building cool and um it's gonna be probably another experiment and we're all gonna be able to partake in it again uh which was what's absolutely fun i mind fucking every
day all day for two weeks so yeah anyway um luke chris are you still up here yeah man i'm still here
yeah man i'm still here
awesome anything you wanted to say about what we've been discussing now or
we're just listening i think you jumped down for a bit you came back
yeah no just um maybe on the topic of uh super high um was just saying super high gas fees and something that Luke I think brought up
the point of experimenting I think like
maybe kind of already beat the horse dead but
you know it's like we can't really avoid experimenting in a new space
but I think maybe it might have been what Luke is trying
to allude to is that like
you can't experiment with business like the business basics of it it's like you should
have those foundations strong like if you're gonna have a sustainable like renewable business
you can't just sort of like like i don't know we'll figure out how we're gonna make money like eventually we'll
figure out a problem to solve somehow maybe later i don't know possibly like i think those are really
really valid points um and just like unfortunately though like there's no way that we're gonna have
anybody that like can like super impose these rules on top of all of the blockchains
in some sort of way where it's like,
well, if you don't pass the strict minting regulations,
then you don't get to mint,
at least not within any realistic timescale anytime soon.
And so it kind of becomes this two-sided sword thing where it's like, you know, it's up to the mentors, the collectors to become a little bit more informed.
And I think this is why I try to educate people who are trying to get into Web 2 and sorry, into Web 3 is because like, I feel like it's such a kind of weird and semi-dangerous place for people's finances because like once you get on it's like your wallet is like cash and then it's final any transaction happens and it's gone you
can't call the bank and say like oh can you undo that that was a scam um and so like i feel in some
way kind of like semi-responsible when i bring people onto web 3 and they're used to the safeties
of web 2 and they kind of you know fly off, oh, I found this cool project and like this
and that.
And then like, all of a sudden they're talking about projects that I know like on the technicals,
it just feels like, oh, those are like red flags on everything.
Or like on the software side where it's just like, oh, those people have been known to
put like malicious code on their stuff.
Danger, danger.
And to new people, they don't understand the risk of having a wallet drainer
installed on their computer because they followed some projects.
You see tons of projects that, not projects, but unique builders
and random people that work in web three things because they
they got an email or a message from someone on dm and they're like yeah man we'd love to work with you um we're building this and that all you gotta do is like install the game so you can check it
out and then the next thing that they know they're like they get an exe they install it and they're
like oh my god my wallet was drained how could could this have happened? They look so legit. And it's like this happens so many times
that I can't even keep track of how many times
I've come across a post where literally somebody
was getting to work on something
where there was an EXC to install.
And under no circumstances ever would you download
EXCs from a stranger and install them.
But once people kind of just sort of like let their guard down
it's really easy for really bad things to happen in web3 so like it's it's kind of one of those
things where it's like it's super important for people to become um familiarized with the concepts
of like just digital stuff uh if you're going to be working in the uniquely digital space so like
as boring and non-sexy as it sounds to tell someone like bro if you're going to be working in the uniquely digital space. So as boring and non-sexy as it sounds to tell someone,
like, bro, if you're going to be doing this hardcore,
even if you don't get certified,
just go study the A-plus certifications.
Like, go on YouTube, open up an A-plus certification.
It's like the basics of computers.
If you don't know the basics of computers,
like, you're probably going to get scammed going from project to project
because you just don't know what's bullshit.
A lot of things sound good on the surface,
but when you don't know the technicals to be able to call out bullshit,
it's super hard to tell the difference.
And this is one of those things like my professional side of where I worked before I did design and Web3 stuff was like that's all it was.
It was like troubleshooting computers, trying to understand faults and trying to understand where people falsified documents to try to cover themselves because they made a mistake in fixing the machines or the way that they broke the machines.
And like that's super, super important in aerospace. stake in fixing the machines or the way that they broke the machines. And, uh, and like,
that's super, super important in aerospace. Like, this is how we track that all the airplane parts
and every type of work that's been done on an airplane, um, is recorded, gets passed along,
passes inspections and passes the sniff test to then be signed and say, cool, I will put the lives
of strangers on my signature and you guys can fly goodbye and
you know hope you land well where you go next and there's nothing like that on web 3 it's like
it's all just kind of like oh i like those vibes so like i'm gonna put you know whatever amount
of money i got into this thing and then they crash and burn on the way up and then they're
like how could this have happened but like the warning signs were there for anyone who was paying attention and so uh like i think that's just kind of like just kind of how it goes
though like it's all about like you know since we're all self-custodians of our wallets we also
have to be self-responsible for the safety of these wallets um i don't know i guess maybe moment for
another lesson like the reason why banks are banks and now we're getting rid of banks to do peer-to-peer transactions,
not every place can have banks.
In some countries, it's really difficult for banks to exist
because a bank has to secure the ledgers.
They have to provide their own sense of security
for the ledgers of all those transactions.
In Web3, a lot of these systems are getting disrupted
because those ledgers are maintained and kept up
by the blockchain that supports all these things.
And so whatever blockchain you're on,
as long as it's big enough to be generally decentralized
and you can work anywhere, those systems are there.
But since those systems are there but since those systems are
there like now the bank doesn't need to exist but you still are responsible for some of those bank
responsibilities of the safety and security of your ledger and your account in that ledger which
is your wallet and so it's it's important to understand basic security stuff and then to understand basic development theory
like basic video game uh concepts because like all of these like experimentations that are
are hiding rugs um pretending to be anything more is uh essentially just like it's often like
broken logic that sounds good when you don't know anything but as soon as
you know like 20 hours worth of research of any of those topics you can dramatically reduce how many
like things like that you can't detect and so like to anyone who is uh just now getting started in
web 3 if there's anybody in the audience who's really early on their project, I mean, on their journey
or anybody who's kind of just been in it for a while but, like, hasn't really had any problems
yet, but you're still, you know, like, you're under, you're undereducated in technical sides
of a lot of this Web3 stuff.
Take note of the feelings you're having
about feeling a little bit overexposed.
Take a moment.
It doesn't take, you know,
if you're a little bit intimidated,
it doesn't take too many hours
to get massively more familiar
than if you're starting at zero.
And so for anybody who's, you know,
beginning and you're trying to say,
like, I don't even know where to start.
Like a really, really, really easy place to start
would be just basic network security
and your A-plus certification videos on YouTube.
As soon as you start those two things,
you have a massive level up on anybody else.
And then if you want to kind of take it one step up
because it's a really common topic
that's coming up right now,
learn the basics of AI development. And you don't have to develop but you just have to like pick up a little bit
enough to to understand and um and then pick up a little bit on video game development and just
watch those you know just kind of on the side and you'll begin to understand a little bit more
about some of the projects that come across um some really interesting like talking
points and then they just repeat them and then they kind of sort of say that that's what they're
doing but they're just sort of repeating some talking point that they heard someone else say
or another brand that's doing it they're like minted out and they're just like cool that's
what we're gonna do too so like um those those would be my two cents. That would be probably my closing thought,
and I'm going to have to jump off here soon.
But Superhot Gaspis, I was looking through your timeline, dude.
Your project is sick.
I just came across it for the first time.
But it would be super, super cool to stay in touch, man, and to maybe just work on something together
or work on some animations or something.
I noticed that
you have some 3d animations uh going on that'd be super sick dude yeah i'm absolutely down i'll
send you a dm um like after the space and beyond that i think all of the meat of what you were saying is like partially why if i'm ever
onboarding someone into crypto and they're like serious about it i'm like never gonna tell them
to start with a lot of money like i'm always kind of more on the on on the side of like, yeah, just start with like, like as,
as little as feasibly possible, like, you know, and if you become familiar with it and you learn,
because that's kind of the only way now, like what you were saying is like, there's not really much
in terms of like teaching, like there's YouTube videos, which like helps
people. And there might be other stuff that I'm not familiar with, honestly. But, um, but,
uh, yeah, I, I always tell people to like, start with, you know, like just enough to mint this
project or like doing everyone was interested in NFTs when
like, uh, it was hate beast and invisible friends and all this stuff popping off. I was like,
like that was when I was onboarding people and I was telling them like, yo, start with
just, just go in this chat and like, and talk to people, you know, and then start with just just go in this chat and like and talk to people you know and then start with
however much money it costs to mint the nft you know like pick the nft that you like wait until
it releases like make sure you get whitelisted by chatting like it was honestly such a good way to like onboard people, bro. Like during the whole NFT craze, like whitelist chatting was so good because it didn't require any money.
It just required time.
And like the time that you spent in chat talking to people, you would like also, you know, maybe form a group of people and discuss NFTs and like
learn about them. Or you would like hear about an alpha group from one of the people in the,
in the chat that you were in and you would join the alpha group and then you would learn more.
Like there was just a lot of like learning going into it. And now it's like,
into it. And now it's like, I don't know, like people were kind of incentivized to do that
chatting because like the space was just kind of like blowing up, you know? And now it's like,
you know, you can join a community, which is like what I would say to do to somebody, like
just join a cheap community. But even then, if you want want to learn it's kind of tough because like
a lot of discords are dead like there's not there's just not there's like a lot less
participation across the board so it's like it's honestly like it's kind of a tough time
to get onboarded into nfts particularly but um but yeah dude, we'll chat. Um, I'm, I'm totally down. I see you
build 3d XR web experiences. I'm like not familiar with that stuff at all, but if there's something
we could work on, dude, like let's do it. I'm, I'm about to message you right now. I message you.
I message you right now.
I message you.
Yeah, see that's-
You know, I was-
If there was a connection made
and something comes from it, that's the goal, right?
I was literally talking to a friend.
They were like, you're still doing it?
I was like, yeah, you know,
it's called making connections
and keeping things moving and building
and building public and learning from each other.
Dude, yeah, I totally agree, bro.
I'm trying to like, when I come join these spaces, like I kind of tend to be a little bit like, like I'm not bad at talking, but I'm bad at like introducing myself to a conversation.
You know what I mean?
Like the first word or the first like sentence, it's hard for me to just like jump in and
be like, Hey, like, but you know, talking in here was easy because Luke introduced me.
I don't know where Luke went, but he's off now.
But, um, but he like introduced me and I saw that I already followed a lot of you guys,
so it was, like, it was easier to come up here and speak.
But, yeah, dude, I feel like that's, like, such a, like, cool thing about spaces
is just how you can, like, meet and network and connect with people as if you're,
like, it's similar to what happens at IRL events,
you know, but we can't always be at IRL events and they happen all over the world. So it's like
kind of easier to just jump in spaces and, um, and chat, but yeah, beyond just, just, uh, Chris,
it's, it's great to, to talk to all you guys for the first time, like you, OC and Fleshy.
Very cool.
And I'm actually like, I feel like I need to like for LT3, I think one of the most important
things for me to be doing is like doing stuff on the timeline to like ignite the community,
you know, and like going that extra mile, like taking steps.
Like I see Higgins and not nope in the crowd and decoup.
Like I'm going to reach out to you guys.
I know I was DMing with Higgins earlier, but I really want to like start just taking this like networking stuff a lot more seriously because like dude i don't know if
you guys are familiar with regenerate but like dude what jed does like the way that he comes on
here and just like like he moves like so fast dude like he'll be like i don't know just like it's funny it's funny you say that yeah
yeah yeah well fleshy we were supposed to actually have him on part one i believe right fleshy
the distract sorry i was distracted who was that uh regenerates um well he was supposed to be uh
um earlier no he was supposed to be uh when the space started but
um he's always busy so it's yeah at the wall um oh he's all around yeah he was he came in for a
little while and then he disappeared again i'll just invite him again maybe at some point he
actually comes up and comes and speak i love what he's doing. These projects is doing very
well. So yeah, super. I'm so glad that you came up to speak. Luke is playing Fortnite
with Shiva. So that's where he disappeared to. And then I was just told that I need to
get off the space because it's too long, apparently by Shiba. Because I got an invite to come in to play Fortnite with them.
Yeah, I joined in Fortnite
and then I got kicked out.
Well, my thing went to like sleep mode
because I went upstairs to, you know,
smoke a little bowl,
enjoy some outside before it got dark.
Now it's about nine o'clock.
So I was like, you know,
it's still a beautiful day.
I'll get a little bit of fresh air,
you know, good stuff.
Yeah, I mean, the space started at 4 p.m. for you, right?
It started at 10 p.m.
Yep.
And now it's almost 9.
So, yeah, no, I get it.
Yeah, there's room for part three.
It's going to be a beautiful time until part, who knows?
I definitely, I mean, 69 will be a party we'll do that you know so i mean
it's gonna be fun there's gonna be a lot i mean who knows who knows what you know we can do what
we can build and create from what we're just doing here with the reacted spaces you know like you you
know you know basically getting people to come and, you know, from all different chains, connect, build connections and,
and grow and, and do things positive, you know,
and have a little bit of back and forth,
maybe a little bantering, a little bit of,
but still keeping things pretty, you know, you know,
we're civilized, you know, but we're also DGENs.
Yeah, I know, a hundred percent.
I did pen up top just for interest sake.
One last thing I wanted to mention.
I'm not sure who's ready for the doodrillas mutation, but obviously, like I mentioned earlier,
huge mutant or mutated art fan.
So I am super stoked.
I can't wait to see what the mutations look like, especially the mega serum mutations.
So yeah, let's go.
Okay, I think we are now probably going to close it up.
I know we were doing the final thoughts like literally an hour ago this time because I
looked at the time and then we got some new speakers but i didn't
mind i would stay here for another hour if there was more people but to be honest i actually also
want to play some fortnight it's been a it's been a while so yeah um again any last words okay
chris is down uh he already said bye. Super high.
Anything he wants to say?
No, just good meeting you guys.
I'll come to the next space that you guys host.
100%. I'm looking forward to that.
It's always nice meeting new people.
You started following me quite a while back back or I followed you or something.
I can't remember.
Uh, so when I do see some of your stuff, I try and repost it, but I don't always see
everything on the timeline.
Sadly for X, you know, the, the reach sometimes is very limited to certain things.
Um, so yeah.
Um, last thing, Chris is back up here.
Yeah, sorry, I just, I disconnected.
I didn't mean to drop down.
Just one last thing before I close out, if you're about to close out the space too,
is it cool if I just pin up a link so that anybody who wants to know about the project can just kind of check up
the link on the top and then we can just
they can find it that way real quick?
Yeah, yeah, 100% go for it.
So we're going to have a space that's
going to last three days at the beginning of May.
And so, sorry, four days, four days.
And we're gonna keep it open 24 hours a day. We got people in the UK and then people here in the States.
So we're gonna be basically alternating schedules
and just keeping the thing alive for the whole four days
while we're renting on the 72 hour mint.
So the link to that space is gonna be be uh when i throw up on the on the
space up here so just a little reminder of when we're going to be uh holding the the thing down
and um so i gotta actually get my uh obs systems up and running right now because i need to
finish up the way that we're going to do the video feed because we're going to try to do a
video live feed for that thing,
so we can have some games and some other stuff going on while we're doing that.
But I just wanted to close out just real fast, just saying thank you again.
Fleshy, congrats on your first space, first and a half space in OC.
And I wish you guys good luck with continuing these and making just a bunch more
and all the success that you guys can get as you keep on showing up
for the communities that you represent
and that you highlight.
Awesome.
I appreciate you coming back up and staying a little bit longer.
I'm glad that everybody, we met some new people,
made some new connections, basically.
And I can't wait to see if you guys actually do something.
That's, like I said, the whole point of this space
was to bridge the gaps.
So I hope something comes from it.
Osai, any last words?
Yes, maybe.
No, sorry.
I was dropping things.
I was like, oh, crap.
No, but basically no you know we're i just want to keep doing what we're doing and and keep growing you know they're they're
the possibilities are endless with it with within anything really i love it. Yeah, definitely.
Einstein said I should check out the Good Vibe Club. I like the Good Vibe Club art.
It looks pretty cool.
He said he might be able to help me out with a deal on one of them.
So that's pretty cool.
You see, now already maybe looking into getting
into another community
with pretty dope art.
I went to go look at the collection. I haven't really looked at it
and they're all so cool.
They look so cool.
They really did a good job.
Osai, you should have bought one when I
told you when you did that poll.
I told you to buy a fucking one.
Anyway, then look at the price now.
It's like almost half a year.
I know, I know.
If I didn't, I wouldn't have been able to think
with the think and the think in the eyes.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
I've just been thinking,
there's so many good stuff that I've seen.
If I had all the funds
i could have i could have been rich by now i've had a few good calls um but anyway that doesn't
matter um tater i see you down there sir thank you for popping in and sticking around i didn't
bite you up you didn't want to come speak with us so it's fine um i'll remember for next time
You didn't want to come speak with us, so it's fine.
I'll remember for next time.
And Turbo, down there.
Thank you for popping in.
It's great.
Mikey, I'm not sure how to pronounce his name.
He's been here for the whole space.
A whole bunch of people down there.
Smith Dog, Higgins, Notnope.
He's been around for quite a while.
Steph, I think is the pronunciation for that
tom uh i'm not gonna mention all of you d felons or maybe hex email there's been all of you you
guys have been here for for the whole time which is crazy um almost five five hours like last week
it three hours 20 minutes i thought that was long hey now we um yeah we broke
that record so now next time we're gonna have to go longer it's like what's the next place gonna
be like seven hours no no i don't know chris is your hand up do you want to say something
no i don't know why you keep seeing my hand up in no no it might just be dude it is glitching
for you like crazy i i'm like man just dm me and ask me no man i'm just gonna ask whatever
it's not the end of the world but yeah no for yeah so that's the that's the end of the show
everybody thanks for jumping on jumping in. It was a good space.
I learned a lot.
I'm going to go check some stuff out.
I'm going to go jump on YouTube and go see if I can find some other great creators that
can tell me stories about animations of past.
So, you know, probably I'm going to stumble across somebody that's extremely talented
in one of those fields and knowledgeable and going to learn a lot.
Well, it's inspiration.
It adds to inspiration. It adds to
the knowledge that you can use to build
with. That's why
I go to bed watching some really
cool, interesting things and then I'll
keep watching it to retain it.
There's some
pretty cool content out there.
YouTube's the best free thing you can get, one of them. You know?
Yeah, like they say, this is what I pay my internet for.
It's not just for the memes.
So yeah, anyway, going for great spaces
and meeting great people.
So yeah, anyway, with that, I'm going to close it out
until I think I'm going to go
with the part episode one, part three thing.
I think it's hilarious.
I think it's funny.
I'm just going to go with that.
So I guess I'll see you guys in part three, whenever that might be.
It might be in a week from now.
I might start doing more spaces in a week.
I don't know.
We'll see how it goes and how many people are interested and if
there's interest and whatever. There's always something, I guess, to be that we can speak about.
Like, here we are five hours later and we're still speaking about stuff. So,
in this past five hours, we probably missed like a whole bunch of shit. So if we could actually restart the space now and then do part four.
Anyway, with all the shit that we probably missed just in the past few hours, just being
in here.
But anyway, it was great fun.
Thank you again, everybody, speakers, listeners.
I really appreciate it.
Peace, guys.
Cheers. Thank you.
