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π¨RIP USA
Recorded: June 5, 2025 Duration: 1:49:15Space Recording
Short Summary
In a heated discussion, crypto enthusiasts dissected Elon Musk's controversial tweet linking Donald Trump to the Epstein files, exploring its potential impact on market trends and growth opportunities. The conversation revealed how political narratives are increasingly shaping investor sentiment in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
It's over.
It's fucking over.
It's fucking over.
Trump.
Elon.
Epstein Island.
It's over.
I think I just read the most crazy tweet I've ever read in my entire life. Uh, let's see here.
Time to drop the really big bomb. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT.
Wow.
That's unbelievable.
This is,
that has to be the most insane
nuclear bomb of a tweet ever sent on this platform.
That is the craziest tweet I've ever read in my entire life.
Yeah.
What the fuck are we doing?
Wait, what happened?
You didn't read Elon's latest tweet.
This is the craziest tweet ever sent on this platform.
It's the craziest tweet I've ever read in this platform.
I mean, that's got to be the end of Trump.
Oh, my God.
This is escalating ridiculously.
It really needs to stop.
Elon obviously knows where all the bodies are buried because he's been deep in this thing with the doge.
But this public playing out like this over the policies around this bill and destroying two of the most powerfully
credible people that could do amazing things for this country, this got to stop. I mean,
daddy's got to come home and take their phones away. Something seriously got to happen here.
Um, uh, Jackie, and I hate to be the bearer of bearer of bad news, but I don't think that this is just policy anymore.
I'm pretty sure that this was way deeper.
If this was just policy,
it would be different
because you'd be going after Congress.
What you're seeing right now is something personal.
A lot of the smoke that we were seeing
from the mainstream media reporting,
and might I just say,
just because you say we are the media
on X, it doesn't automatically mean that the mainstream media is wrong. They've invested
millions of dollars in getting moles and people to sell tips. And if people don't sell the tips
to the voices on X, guess what? They'll sell it to the mainstream media. So some of the rumblings of, you know, the distinction and all of this rift and fighting that we've been hearing.
This is kind of, you know, you don't drop that nuke unless there's something seriously going on and you want to destroy somebody.
And right now, it really does seem like Elon is going all in on funding his own person next time.
And that's not because he thinks that, you know, oh, Trump's just not getting what I need done.
It's because something was done to royally piss him off.
And I don't know what it is.
I won't speculate.
Like I told people, we all should just mind their own business and let this just play it out.
But, you know, everybody got into politics and went gung ho and became political influencers overnight.
And, well, you got a lot of people with egg on their faces, especially a lot of people pro-Trump and pro-Elon posts and tweets and stuff.
And, well, I'm just watching.
I don't know about you guys.
You know, Malcolm, I agree with what you've said, but here's my question to you.
Is this alpha male energy playing out here where they're just...
No, no, this is chatty patty.
No, this is chatty patty.
This is not alpha male.
I just want to let you go ahead and know this is actually the antithesis of alpha male energy.
Don't let anybody sell you on the fact that social media posting and beefing on social media is alpha male energy.
If it was, then you go ahead and you drop your parting shot and you leave it alone.
You don't go back and forth.
Okay.
That's what I wanted to know because, you know, I consider you very alpha male and you would know what you're talking about.
If you beat and bloody each other and that's winning or if it's the other way so okay thanks
here's my question I want to throw this to some of the people have their hands
raised who are the winners and who are the losers of this skipper go ahead
come on dude okay all right I'm here all right I'm gonna say it like it is okay
I'm not gonna quote scripture but maybe I will because I think it needs to be
heard okay all right okay Ephesians 612 for we do not wrestle against flesh and
blood but against the rulers against the but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness,
against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
Okay, I just chimed in here. I just started listening.
But I'm just going to say this because it's the most powerful thing that you can have besides an
AR-15 or anything else, Mad Max Ruck. The power of God. Prayer is very powerful. Prayer protects
you. Put a light around yourself. Put a light around your family. Put a light around your
friends. Put a light around strangers you don't even know. Because all of this is political theater.
They're all connected.
They all shake hands.
They all sit in a room and laugh at us.
If you think Elon Musk is your friend, you've got another thing coming.
The only reason that we came back to X, those that were permanently deleted, me, myself, and I, the only reason is for AI.
Because we were the missing particle.
All of this is connected.
So if you look in Revelations and you read Revelations, it's hard to read. But you know what? The more that you dig into the Bible, like you pick up your phone, pick up a Bible,
and you're going to find out what the truth is. And the more truth that we we come together in the more powerful we are and
that that is where it's at so all this cycle babble of political theater lindsey graham going
who the fuck cares this this is all shit to keep you distracted of your light and i'm gonna leave
it there and listen to more what is this the distraction of what are we getting distracted are you okay okay you
want me to dig it more so I know I'm gonna dig in because you know what God puts you where you're
supposed to be when you when you pray and you put God first it's amazing the things that you can see
from wherever you're at you could be in your garage and you'll know more than than most people
do yep we gotta get straight to the point I don't mean to be pushy here. We gotta get straight. Okay
Well, you know, you don't need to be pushy because you know
Is it skipper break up for anyone else?
Yeah, can you hear all right? We got to remove skipper. Sorry skipper. That was just going nowhere fast
nowhere fast uh bobby you had your hand raised who's the winners and who's the losers i mean
Bobby you had your hand raised who's the winners and who's the losers I?
honestly when i look into all of this so two things for one not to get political or whatever
but of course all he said was that he's in the files he didn't say anything incriminating he
didn't say that he was participating whatever there's a lot of people that are in those files implications obviously that he did something naughty that's obviously the implication yes
and no but also the he wouldn't say that if he wasn't implying like he wouldn't be saying that
if it wasn't implying it uh trump did something naughty well at the end of what i'm what i'm
getting at here is this has a very like rap beef vibe it. They are two of the most popular people on social media in the world.
And I don't know.
I'm curious to see how it plays out.
Elon is not a dumb person.
He did that for a reason.
Two people and two people have ignored it.
I've asked this question.
What is going on here?
Who's the winners and who's the losers, Bobby?
Literally.
Just answer the
question this is winners asking you a question doesn't mean you can go on a soliloquy about
rap beefs and whatever who's the winners who's the losers winners are i'd say tesla owners
and losers are i mean temporarily people who support the Republican Party and Elon Musk, which is not a very big population.
No, I think we are all the losers here because people are not understanding the whole situation here.
It's not about Elon being butthurt from what has been done to him.
It's about what he's found out, what he's seen. And he's finally coming out and saying
it. Americans are the losers here because, you know, we get led into some of these bullshit
stories about like how this candidate is going to come in and do this for us and that for us and
change the world and change the direction that America is going to go. None of that is ever
going to happen because they don't care about us. They don't care about the country. They only care about themselves and what they need to do to protect
themselves and keep being in power because it gives them so much more than we can ever, ever,
ever imagine. Not even just what we see from like the power, the money and whatever else. There's so
much more probably that we can't even think of there that they're doing under the
table that you know like those are the things that will never come out and we're never gonna know and
we are all the losers here because we believe in these people and none of them deserve it
uh df uh what do you guys are any winners with? Do you think anyone's celebrating right now? Yeah, there's no real winners,
but I'm team humanity, team Elon,
I think is the one that is correct in the middle of all this.
He went there to cut the deficit, cut the spending,
and after all his work, working for free,
he gets all the flack, all the fire bombings.
And at the end of the day, this is what he gets in return.
Okay, but do you think what he's doing here is a good thing?
Yes, it appears to be very clear he was wronged.
I think it's fairly obvious that he went into and supported Trump with the promise of Trump lowering the deficit and lowering spending.
And he clearly seems like he was wronged by Trump signing the big, beautiful bill.
But do you think this type of reaction is the appropriate reaction?
Like, do you think do you think Elon has the right to do what he's doing right now?
Yeah, Elon basically doesn't care. the appropriate reaction? Like, do you think, do you think Elon has the right to do what he's doing right now? Yeah.
Elon basically doesn't care.
We all know he's off autist.
He does whatever he feels like.
And in this case,
he feels wronged and he's firing out.
Yeah.
But do you think he has,
I understand that's what he's doing,
but does he have the right to do it?
Do you think it's the right thing to do?
Yes, I do. You think it's the right thing to do? Yes, I do.
You think it's the right thing to do?
Okay, hold on.
I think it's a strategic move to sway public opinion back onto the wrong side.
Bobby, there's literally no strategy in this.
You cannot connect someone to Jeffrey Epstein, who is literally in power while the Epstein files are allegedly on Pam Bondi's desk,
and say that there's a greater political play.
If there was a greater political play, then we could have done literally anything else
other than this.
All this does is fracture the base, divides American opinion, and makes independents and
moderates feel hoodwinked because they're like, what the heck did we vote for?
Prices aren't going down. Now Mr elon money man doesn't even like them okay what the heck do we do and then even worse
look at congress what do you think congress is going to do you think congress is really going
to side with the guy that the man who's going to be funding and bankrolling their campaigns
and or primary challengers it's just said is on the epstein list you think
they're going to agree with him like come on now i i get it i get it 40 chess trust the plan
you know patriots are in control uh jeff sessions will activate the idea i've been around this
political stuff for a long time a long long time longer than i'm even proud enough to say
and i couldn't even
find a silver lining when they were just talking about the big, beautiful bill and Trump's trying
to play with kid gloves. I couldn't find anything. So yeah, this is a lot worse than you think it is.
There is no upside. There's no play. There's no strategy. There's none of that. This is called two grown men not hashing something out that could have been hashed out in the background or things getting to a point where they're irreconcilable.
I'll be honest. It's irreconcilable. Elon didn't like Trump doing all the tariffs.
He didn't like the hawkish stance on China that a lot of Trump's cabinet members were. We saw when Elon Musk was actually beefing, not with Besant, but, um,
oh God, with the other foreign policy and with the other guy that was on fiscal policy,
we saw this already happening. And now look, so again, you can believe whatever you want to
believe, but just to answer your question, Alex, nobody wins.
Absolutely. Well, actually, let me take that back.
The Democrats win and they will win 20, you know, 2026.
Hey, get ready, guys. Blue wave. You're you're definitely going to see a lot of inaction and fracturing.
You think this leads to a blue wave? You think this is a type of thing where people read this and they're like, OK, now I'm going to I'm going to vote for the Democrats now?
No, no. And people don't even have to vote for the Democrats. The Democrats have their block. The Democrats have had their block that believe that the election was stolen in 2016.
Those people haven't went anywhere. If anything, they've gotten louder.
And then you've got people, Republican, that have gotten super pro-Israel, which now makes all the super pro-Palestine people say,
okay, well, screw this. We want to go Democrats. And meanwhile, what's happening to Trump and Elon's base, the coalition they built? It's fracturing. And what happened to all the
moderates? They're gone. Not even Mark, you know, Mark Cuban's trying to literally jump ship with
Elon now. What do you think this does? It's called, it's the
vision. So again, one side's dividing and one side is only retooling and sticking together,
if anything, getting a little bit closer together. This feels like a nuclear bomb moment where all
parties reassemble with new visions, right? Because now the Republicans are completely fractured.
I think the Democrats were already fracturing up to this point and fractured because of the election.
This feels like a moment where literally every political party in the United States is completely
fractured right now. There's no unifying message behind either of them. And this feels like a
moment where now the leaders of both
parties, I don't even know if there is a leader of the Republican Party anymore, come together.
I guess there's no leader of the Democrat Party either, where people just start coming together
and the new lines are drawn. The new rules are drawn for both sides because they're both
completely fractured, eliminated now. And I think what will come out of this moment is a new leader
for each side with new policies and visions for what that party is for the future. Because I think
right now, the Democrats don't know who they are and what they want to be in the future.
And the Republicans clearly don't know. Like, this is the nuclear bomb moment, right? Kind of
like when Biden said, fuck, I'm not running anymore.
And Kamala came in. It's like, OK, now we don't know who's leading this or who's in charge anymore.
It feels like every side now like this is just the nuclear bomb has dropped.
Now we're picking up the pebbles and seeing who's on whose side and who the leaders are going to be.
I agree with you, Alex. I think that I felt like the nuclear bomb's gone off too. But there's a third possibility and you can speculate that Elon's going to start his own political party and start running things and running for office and running people into office. I mean, he was pretty clear about his poll. You think we ought to have a third party? You know, you can read into that.
You think we ought to have a third party?
You know, you can read into that.
I don't even know, but I don't even think it's possible for a third party, unfortunately.
I think the rules have been set up where it's just not possible in this country for a third party.
I think it's too difficult.
They set it up so there will always be two.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't know if we've ever had a moment like this before in political history.
I think this has been needed to establish a clean break from
elon and everything is going on in government so he can get back to doing what elon does best
what elon does best at this point is up up for grabs i'm going to be honest especially if
someone i mean at some point somebody's going to have to follow through with the threats, either the SpaceX contracts or, you know, and the subsidies get canceled.
And so, again, everybody's affected by this, regardless of how it happens.
So, yeah, I'm just going to sit back and just kind of think on how messed up this is going to be, because I warn people.
I warn people. Gr people granted my reach is
crap and so again you know i'm followed by donald trump jr and all of the like and all the political
cast you know all the senators thomas massey all follow me but they can't see me but i warn people
stick to what is best the tariffs were a bad move I think we can all agree with all of that.
This trade war was a terrible move.
The tariffs were not a bad move at all.
They were effective at what they were set out to accomplish.
What price that went down right now, Bobby?
What's gotten cheaper?
What's more affordable now thanks to the tariffs?
If they were effective, why did they reverse all of them?
Because it got China to stomp their feet like they were going to
while we started removing all the domestic manufacturing that we offshored to them
to places like Vietnam and Korea and the Philippines
that are way better for our economy than leaving them in China.
How so, though?
So you think the plan was to reverse it the entire time
the plan was to implement it and three weeks later reverse it the entire time the plan was to do
exactly what it did to cause a lot of mass hysteria and everybody was gonna fucking figure
out what they were gonna do and then china wanted to sit there and stomp their feet like we all knew
they were going to meanwhile the results of the tariffs. I mean, last I checked, it gave about 10 trillion dollars worth of investment in the U.S. economy.
Name another president that's done that in history ever. Even one trillion dollars worth of investment.
Ten trillion dollars to fund more congressional ways that Elon Musk is currently pissed off about. Excellent.
off about excellent this is an amazing strategy i think perfect 40 60 90 chess forget 40 chess
we're we're playing 60 90 interdimensional fractal chess right now elon must started an
era of transparency into the government that this administration is following that is not
what do we know right now what about the epstein files? Because currently Elon's, yeah, he said that those aren't being released.
Okay, well, let's see what happens when they come out.
You can say anything you want, but it's a fact that the Epstein Island was used as a way to procure blackmailable material on people of power globally.
That's why you had.
We've known that since 2016.
Exactly.
So what did Elon say? Pay attention to the words. He's in the files. OK, of course he's in the files. There's a lot of fucking people that were in the files. I get that you're making that accusation to the average person.
establishes people can think whatever they want. Your average person that only consumes one type
of news from one side is going to automatically assume that that means Trump had something
negative to do out there. But when you know things from a global perspective and just,
you don't just see things from a shaded side. Like I can see everything you guys are saying.
I'm not a Republican. I prefer to see an issue on its face and then make up my mind a lot of shit that's happening right now
This is unforeseen in history ever. They're flying this plane
They're building this plane as they're flying. There is no plan then
I mean there was a plan. I thought you said that this was all a part of the master plan
Well, what's happening right now is yeah trump and Trump and Elon, I mean, put yourself in Elon's shoes.
He has taken a lot of heat.
A lot of negativity has been thrown his way because of his association with this administration.
Doge is fine without him.
You know, Vivek is about to be the fucking governor of Ohio or whatever.
He's not going to be there much longer either.
Doge has effectively done this problem. Vivek longer either doge has effectively since it launched what this does is it establishes a clean break on a mass global scale for everybody
to see from elon musk from all things related to government so now what's that going to do to
everybody who's burning down his dealerships and they're going to go back on his side, right?
Wait, but no, no.
Because how does this correlate?
Because that doesn't just all of a sudden mean they're going to like him.
That's not how these politics work.
So what makes them all of a sudden like him?
Because that's how mass opinion works, right?
All the liberals loved him before he started helping Trump, right? So now to get
them back on his side and reverse the damage that Trump effectively did to Elon and his career and
his empire, have a global fucking event like this. So then it's not this amazing play by the
administration. So this is just Elon deciding that he's going to take what he wants now.
No, I'm sure this was talked about behind closed doors between Trump and Elon directly.
So Trump wants Elon to accuse him of being a pedophile on the biggest platform where he has the most to lose and where Congress is probably the least.
What is Trump going to lose?
This is his last term that he can run.
He's not going to be...
You don't think this is bad for Trump?
Bobby?
No, Trump doesn't give a fuck.
He's a criminal now.
He's a felon.
Call him a pedophile?
He didn't call him a pedophile, though, did he?
Are you...
I'm sorry, but if you're associated with the Epstein files,
you're immediately labeled a pedophile,
and that's the worst thing that could happen to Trump three months into his term.
This is horrible.
Are you brainwashed?
I don't understand.
You don't think that post is implying he's a pedophile?
What world are you living in?
I think that it's designed to do exactly what your software is designed to do, is to do what we're doing right now, talking about it.
Bobby's on the marijuana. He's got to be right now.
What?
What did you just say?
What about my software? What the fuck are you talking about?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I think he's trying to say it's a distraction.
There are other ways to distract the public.
Get people to engage in discourse. Yeah, I don't understand why you think this is a distraction. There are other ways to distract the public. Get people to engage in discourse.
Let me step back. That was not a dig at your software at all.
I didn't count it as a dig. I just don't understand what the fuck you're saying.
He's trying to say this is a planned thing and
Elon and Trump are just sitting behind closed doors right now and tweeting at each other.
We live in the matrix.
Public affairs for the military, right?
I've been in these types of meetings.
I've seen the discussions that go on behind closed doors at the CNO and presidential level.
I don't have to explain why I think this.
I mean, I could be totally wrong, but so could any of you.
You guys are attacking my opinion.
I literally don't understand what you're saying.
You're like, words are coming out, but I can't put the words together.
Can I throw my two cents in, Alex, for a minute?
Yeah, relax, get in here.
I just want to go ahead and say, I mean, if, let's say, hypothetically,
Elon and Trump got together and said, you know, let's shake it up a little bit, right?
a little bit, like Bobby's implying. I can almost 100% guarantee you that Donald Trump and Elon
Like Bobby's implying.
didn't agree to have... Elon basically called Trump a pedophile on the internet, especially in
times where we have things like the Diddy trial going on. Human trafficking and the borders are
super important to Trump and his presidency in this term.
Guarantee you that's not the case at all.
But what really upsets me, if this is genuine, that this happened between them two, I'm upset at how fickle people are.
Because these guys were going out.
Elon was introducing his kids to Trump.
Elon was introducing his kids to Trump.
The families were all getting together.
The families were all getting together.
And for this to take such a devastating turn like this,
to where Elon's resorted to calling Trump basically a pedophile,
it's actually disgusting and it's sad.
Because, I mean, it's fickle-ass behavior.
Well, here's what must be going on is,
and I'm going to throw it to Nate in a second,
who I've missed dearly over the
last few weeks so i'm very excited to hear from uh wow the cutest little mouse is sitting right
outside my window this is the smallest mouse i've ever seen in my entire life that's so cute
anyway um there has to be way more to this than than what we're appearing right like let's be
honest about something for a second the black guy wasn't his son punching him in the face.
Let's be honest. There had to have been a physical altercation.
And he just happens to be leaving the government a day after the black guy.
There was something happened. So I think there's way more to this story than Trump refuses to cut costs and then Elon calls him a pedophile like this isn't just oh he didn't cut
costs fuck you pedophile like there's more to it there has to be more to it there has to be
layers and layers and layers and layers and layers uh that is not public that is not being that hasn't
been seen that's led to this moment you don't just like oh you you didn't do what i asked now you're
a pedophile like there's there's more things to happen than just that.
Second, we have on stage my dear friend Nate, who there hasn't been a single live streaming update since this guy left X.
Now he's been just gallivanting around the world, vacation, relaxing, appearing to be happy.
You leave X and then you're happy for a few weeks.
Nate, how you been, dude?
How you been, buddy?
Good, actually.
I'm in the gym right now,
which is something I haven't been able to do
in a really long time.
When I worked at X,
the last time I took a day off was last June.
That's the last time I had PTO.
So I lost like 20 pounds.
I lose weight when I don't work out.
So it's been nice to just get back in the gym and become an animal again.
That's sick, dude.
Same thing here.
When I don't go to the gym, I become a skinny fat fuck.
I lose weight, but I become skinny fat.
Where are the plans?
Are you in Minnesota right now?
Or what are the plans?
Are you gallivanting?
Yeah, I'm casually gallivanting.
I'm in Minnesota. i don't know how
much longer i'm gonna stay here i had a lot of companies reach out when i like posted that i was
leaving um a lot of them are based on the bay area so um might end up going to the bay area
i'm also looking at like nyc or i also have been thinking about just taking like a year or two off
and chilling so i don't know yet dude you're crazy if you don't come to Bay Area, dude.
You're crazy.
The energy here right now is fucking insane.
Like I just go into San Francisco
and meet 20 builders, 20 founders,
just walking around.
We chop it up about what the energy here
has never been high.
Electric, isn't it?
It is. It's incredible.
You have to come to Bay Area.
You're crazy if you're in tech
and don't come to Bay Area. Either that or if you're in tech and don't come to Bay Area.
Either that or if I don't find a job, I'll have to
re-enlist, join the Navy again.
Well, you'll find a job.
You're like a smart
technical dude. You'll find a job. Come to Bay Area.
Every fucking one of these AI companies is
hiring right now. So is
the world's greatest Navy. Am I right?
I mean, I guess
if you want to go to fucking i'm just kidding there's
no way they couldn't pay me good yeah no come to bay area dude come bay you probably don't want to
hang out with me but i want to hang out with you so come here to bay area we'll we'll chop it up
we'll talk tech i'll give you more life requests yep i don't know what to do with those but i mean
let's let's work on maybe the they're probably gonna work on like the dm requests or maybe
post not loading requests first.
You'll tell me all the dirty little secrets
that we all know you have.
We know you have those dirty little secrets, Nate.
I don't, by the way, I see Adam as a speaker.
I was at that Wisconsin event that Adam went to.
I helped like run that live stream.
The what, the ex meetup?
No, there was like, he went to like a,
something that Elon went to and I like drove to Green Bay for it. And I remember seeing himup no there was like he went to like uh something that elon went to and i like
drove to green bay for it um and i remember seeing him talking i was like wait i feel like i've seen
that dude before random side note oh it's good good to know that you were there yeah i uh i heard
i was like my friends were texting me it was like five million people watching that live stream as i
like go up to the microphone and i'm like hey el Elon it's your number one reply guy over here and like can I get a follow from your main let's help win
over those moderates was that the one where you asked Elon to follow you yeah and then he followed
me shortly after that dude I gotta say this bro you can't you can't be asking people to follow
like I get you got the follow but I feel like man if you got some nuts on you you can't be asking people to follow. I get you got the follow, but I feel like, man, if you got some nuts on you,
you can't be asking people to follow you.
You know what I'm saying?
I cringed a little bit when I watched.
You can't.
And I like you, Adam.
I really like you.
But just as a man, man to man, you can't be going around asking people to follow you, bro.
Come on.
You got to earn it.
You got to earn the follow, you know?
Hey, it worked at the end of the day.
Yeah.
So, and I'm glad I'm helping him out as best as I can. So, um,
cause we have a lot of mutual friends to worked with him on Wisconsin when they
did the race. So I was helping him out around there too.
Relax. You ever asked someone to follow you before?
Um, I probably have, I'm not follow you before um i probably have i'm not
gonna lie i probably have once or twice doesn't it isn't it isn't there any part you give you
like the heck like oh i'm here begging someone to come at you adam like this it's just i think i
may have i may have asked i was co-hosting for ryan garcia for a good bit not to brag um i don't
know if that's a good or a bad thing that's not a brag right okay right nonetheless I may have asked him to follow me but I think I think that's it
okay yeah that's fine I do have a follow-up that's okay follow up follow up now obviously
with this Trump Elon um this newfound Trump Elon beef I'm curious what the consensus is in terms
of are we team Elonon are we team trump
because there's a paradox between the two you know what i mean so i'd love to know i mean
well here's a follow-up question go ahead do we think at this point in time at this moment in time
the republican party falls more under elon's this is like fucking Captain America Civil War right here.
This is like Iron Man versus Captain America.
Literally.
I mean, Iron Man is basically Elon Musk.
Do you think more?
I'm on the biggest Marvel kick ever, by the way.
I've been reading tons of comics the last few weeks.
I'm like buying physical comics right now. Anyway, do you believe, what percent would you say is Team Elon or Team Trump of the Republican Party?
I would say it's 75-25 Trump.
Some would say that's actually like a big win for Elon.
Like, that's actually kind of amazing.
That's what I think. Malcolm, what do you think?
Oh no, I was just going to say, to come out of nowhere
though, and to get 25% of a long established party on your
side, that is a huge win. I don't care
who you are. Now, I will say this, it's going to depend
on how many people read i guess how many people
read on x whether or not the legacy media outlets pick it up and if if the democrats decide to make
this a huge sticking point you know they will yes, and yes. I think that this
is giving them all the material that they
need right now, and I've told
all of my political friends,
everybody that I've talked to,
everyone who, you know, kind of
hangs out in those dark liminal spaces
of the political back alleys and whatnot
and traffic secrets, I've told them,
hey, the Democrats are quiet for
a reason now. they have not done
much they've been taking trips to latin america we are pretending that they're trying to get you
know people out of you know people out of out of uh super prisons overseas but i mean they've just
been taking vacations and you know basically you know the news this is going to be wall to wall 24 7.
This is why because this stuff has been brewing and they've just been being patient I've warned
people I was like hey they're being patient they're letting you guys stick your foot in your
mouth yeah they're letting you guys say whatever you want they're letting you guys control x much
like when the democrats controlled twitter when it was ran by everybody in the left, suck their foot in their mouth.
They've learned from their mistakes.
But have you learned from their mistakes?
Yeah, I'm going to go.
I want to go back at something that Alex said about the two party system being so entrenched
that you can't do anything different now.
I don't think that's true, given the Holocaust that we are presently seeing, the nuclear
that we are presently seeing, the nuclear holocaust. I mean, this is in 50 years.
Holocaust.
I mean, this is in fifth.
I've never seen anything blow up like this. And it is fertile ground for someone with the power
and the influence that Elon Musk has to start a third party. And if you're going to talk about
who's lining up with who, I think that there is a tremendous amount of folks that would line up
behind Elon Musk in a third party because they are so disenfranchised with the current system.
So Alex, you know, I think that there's plenty of room for the springing up of a new rose variety.
And I think it's going to be interesting to see.
What do you think Robert Kennedy Jr. is going to side with?
I think that that's a key there, too, because the political establishment is there.
You understand what I'm saying?
He's not. He has to side with Trump.
He can't side with Elon because he's still.
I got a question for you, guys.
He can't he can't go against Trump now.
I mean, even if Trump, even if it's 75-25 Trump, that's still such a massive
loss. Because I mean, like, that would mean he's, the party's cooked, 75-25.
This tweet about Trump being a pedophile, you know right now that it has Trump on his back foot.
And the whole White House is scrambling around now to figure out how to react
and respond to that nuclear bomb because that is exactly what that was. So, you know, we're going
to have to wait to see what Trump does because he's definitely put on the defensive right.
You got people like Bobby here thinking they came up with this grand idea to basically label Trump
a pedophile. Bobby,
I'm still taking it back that you actually said that. I'm appalled. But I do want to add one thing,
one more thing, Alex. What that move by Elon really showed is how petty he is. I would not
be surprised if Elon found an area of opportunity to cozy up with a Democrat, right?
I would just to get back.
I'm just saying, right?
They don't have to completely agree with each other's policies and the way they look at things, right? But if there's a little area of opportunity for Elon to really be petty.
Mark Cuban wants to.
I saw that.
I fucking saw that today.
Exactly.
Think about that.
Yes.
That's a lot of money.
And Mark Cuban's also pissed at Democrats. And, you know, here's here's what we have to realize and reconcile and understand.
The marriage between Elon Musk and conservatives was always on tenuous footing, largely because of the fact that Elon Musk is a transhumanist.
largely because of the fact that Elon Musk is a transhumanist.
He's pro space travel.
He's pro science and all these scientific initiatives.
And if you look at the average rhetoric by the average conservative,
they are not very scientifically apt.
I'm sorry.
Yes, you can say, oh, they believe in the science
because they know that a man has an XY chromosome
and a woman has an xx chromosome
i'm sorry that's easy like that's literally like you're you're in the new blob you're in the
tutorial levels of science boosting wins off of people that need guides instructionals and
pictures to make ham and turkey sandwiches like that's not real science elon's pro science view pro engineering view we saw it
with the h1b stuff pro get the smartest on board you know even if that means going outside of the
country that does not gel with the natalist populist movement that was brewing on the right
so this was inevitable i just want to let you know mal. Malcolm, I want to add real quick, and I know I'm talking a lot here, but I mean, obviously,
this has taken the entire country by storm. But what does this say about Elon, right? So if Elon
knew this about Trump this entire time that he was on the Epstein files, what does this say about
Donald Trump? I mean, about Elon, right? And and what he kind of was he sitting on this silent knowing that trump allegedly was on the epstein files and there's some could be some
you know damning um stories or things related to the epstein island thing and whatnot i mean what
does this say about elon being quiet for so long And then finally, when shit hits the fan, now he's dropping it.
What does this say about him?
You know, just my opinion on it.
So hypothetical question for you guys.
Let me answer your question.
We're trying to create a new party.
Go ahead, Alex.
No, I'm saying that's Bobby.
You asked a question.
Bobby goes, okay, let me ask you a question.
Go ahead, Bobby.
Well, it's for a reason. No, well, it that's Bobby. You asked a question. Bobby goes, okay, let me ask you a question. Go ahead, Bobby. Well, it's for a reason.
No, well, it's for a reason.
So when you guys are saying that this could be leading to a new political party or whatever,
my response to that is, well, what better time in theory if Trump was looking for someone
who's going to pass the torch to, right?
JD, I don't think has aspirations to
step up into that chair. So how do you ensure that what's been happening with all these positive
things that have happened in the last hundred days, which Elon has had a lot to do with.
If we wanted to shift America's public opinion more towards creating a new party,
that's about science and the no bullshit and the no waste and all of that
not saying elon's gonna be the president but if you wanted to shift public opinion towards that
for the 2028 election right now is the time five months into his term bobby five months in i mean
that's something you wait two years in maybe a year and a half out, I mean, five months in is kind of, no, I think shit just hit the fan, honestly.
Yeah.
Well, and honestly, too, he's been called much worse in court.
If Trump wanted to do that, he would have just passed the source of a vague.
Wouldn't he have?
Because the vague illustrated this new libertarian-esque message that, you know, Elon has been on for, you know, almost.
Well, I'm sure he takes part.
He would be a part of this equation.
I mean, he would make a good VP or...
He's going to be governor in Ohio.
He's already committed to that.
I understand.
And that takes 2028 off.
Once you're done being governor,
you can run for public office later.
What happens in the four years?
So what happens in the four years?
Do we just go back to the Democrats
those four years? Does the long game indicate that we just say, hey, okay, so yeah, let's just
tank what we got right now in 2024, give the whole country back to the Democrats in 2028,
and then 2032, then we profit if there's a country left. That's when the real plan happens.
Is that what happens?
Like I said, if you're going to start leaning everybody towards that, you don't start at two years because you're already at the midterm elections.
It's too late.
You would start right around now where you got three and a half years before the election.
Anyone get the switch to brilliant,
brilliant.
I got nothing.
Hey,
I'm not trying to fight with nobody.
Like I,
I like playing devil's advocate.
You know,
we all got our own opinions.
We'll see what plays out and we'll talk about this in a space,
you know,
in a week.
Advocating form right now. I don't know where we're trump went to elon and said hey hey elon i want you to i want you to
basically call me a pdf file for the world
here's the thing he's the thing he's been called a rapist on the global
here's the thing um elon better not have any
secrets because you damn know for sure trump's going to be going
after them now you know trump's been going after pretty much all his political enemies for the last
how long has he been in office now four months man it's been four months felt like eight years
uh you know he's going to be going after every tiny little secret Elon has now if Elon's dropping that stuff, which is you can't take that back.
You can't put that back in the box.
That's an opening to Pandora's box moment.
You can't take that tweet back.
They're going to be going after him now.
Fuck.
Everyone hates Elon now.
Both parties hate Elon.
My Tesla stock.
How much is my Tesla stock down now?
My Tesla stock, which thank God Robin Hood's.
Oh, yeah.
I'm down 15% on Tesla today.
We're so fucking cooked.
Holy shit.
Tesla is cooked, brother.
Like, oh, my God.
This is a great buying opportunity.
If you believe truly in Elon, put your money where your mouth is and dump all of your dump
your life savings in the Tesla right now.
Buy at the bottom.
I mean, this would be a comeback for the ages
to have every political party hate you.
Like absolutely fucking hate you.
I mean, in the comeback, that is a, that would be,
cause now no matter who's in charge,
you're going to have headwinds.
No matter who's in charge,
they're not going to give him any contracts.
They're not going to like, he's just cooked.
He's so cooked.
Maybe not.
Let me also say, I love Elon.
I love Elon.
I'm the biggest Elon fan.
I think he's the greatest businessman of all time.
I think he's truly the greatest businessman in the history of humanity.
But, man, he just put himself in a position where it is going to be hard to do anything now um let me
unmute everyone because fucking i don't know people just jumping in every five seconds here
uh let's go back to adam adam what are your thoughts
you know is there like a delay because of the mute all uh unmute can any of the speakers on mute space can we i can i can
for the love of god parties against us can we for the love of god fix spaces now that we can
actually focus let's get off politics let's fix spaces this shit sucks this shit sucks it's been
broken for four years no one's using this shit anymore no one uses spaces are cooked they've
been cooked for so long space the spaces scene
is dead the spaces scene three years ago was unbelievable it was amazing i would stay up till
five in the morning every night listening to spaces space the spaces seen three years ago
was unbelievable but there's so many bugs in so many errors now that haven't been fixed in three fucking years.
Three years. We can't fix a goddamn bug. I don't want X money. Save X money. I don't need more
credit cards and debit cards. Just fix spaces, please. God. Anyway, Adam, go ahead.
All right. Thank you. Yeah. So what I think what's going to go going forward is going to happen is
that he might get more involved in the primaries to try to put candidates that are more aligned with him through the party so that, you know, he can get those reforms through.
I don't think there's going to be a third party.
It's not possible mathematically because we have a first past the post voting system.
So it's damn near impossible for third party.
You have weird cases like Jesse Ventura who won in Minnesota the governor's race, but those are exceptions to the rule.
weird cases like Jesse Ventura who won in Minnesota, the governor's race,
but those are exceptions to the rule. So he's probably going to get,
he said he was going to step away from politics.
And I think he just pulled himself right back in to get involved at the primary
level to form another pack, possibly to do that,
or to do it through a 501 C4. I think that's what's,
what's he's going to end up doing going forward.
Quick shout outs to me.
My last tweet about this whole situation is cooking right now.
We're 38 minutes in.
It's got 4,000 likes.
You see that?
Relax.
You see that cook right now?
Yeah, I do.
I do.
That's a good cook.
130 million impressions.
It leads me to my question whenever.
Let me just say one more thing.
I haven't had a good cook in a while now.
It's been like a month since I've had a good cook.
I had the best cook of my life a month ago when I shat on some random YouTuber
in a thread and I just out of nowhere got 50 million impressions. Listen, here's a secret
to engagement. First of all, get CreatorBuddy. It's the greatest AI content tool of all time.
But second of all, another secret to engagement is just shit on people. Just absolutely shit on
people. You get a ton of engagement. But it's been a month since I had like a really good cook. I mean,
I've had good, like my, my revenue checks are the highest they've ever been. My revenue checks are
amazing right now. But it's nice to have a good cook. It's nice to have a good cook. Anyway,
go ahead and relax. We used to abuse that word back in the day. Anyway, this is actually a great
segue to my, to my question. Now, obviously with, it's no secret that the X app is right-wing
leaning in terms of the news that you see first, the users on the app, what the algorithm likes to
put in front of you. It's right-wing leaning. Now that Elon and Trump are ultimately
beefing, they have some sort of turmoil going on here.
How is that going to affect the algorithm, right?
Are we going to start seeing things a little bit more centered, more left?
How is it going to affect the algorithm in terms of the news that you're going to see with this newfound beef?
I mean, listen, this is an Elon-driven platform.
Listen, this is a Elon driven platform.
What gets you what determines the kings and the queens and the jester is who gets Elon's
attention the most.
And so it will continue to be an app where the more you glaze the mainstream opinion
of X, the better you'll perform.
There is an entire niche on X which performs very, very well, which is just agree with
everything Elon says and tweet
about it as much as you possibly can. That is one of the most popular niches on this app,
and that's not going to change. So yes, I think the alignments on this app will shift.
I'm seeing people who's glazed Trump for a year straight now, now going after him on the timeline.
I think that'll be the mainstream way that, you know,
the weak-minded folk will go viral on here.
Like, hey, if you can't, if you have nothing interesting to say,
just say whatever Elon's saying, right?
And you could potentially get a like from him,
which will send you viral for a year.
So we're jumping the bandwagon, the bandwagon approach.
Yeah, and listen, I'm not going to shit on it.
There's a lot of people who have made a lot of money
doing the bandwagon approach. There's a lot of people who have built huge platforms just agreeing with whatever Elon says. Doesn't matter what it is. They just agree with it. Right. So it's an approach. It's worked for people. I think what Elon says has a heavy influence on the way the algorithm works just because so many people start just agreeing with whatever he says.
the way the algorithm works just because so many people start just agreeing with whatever he says.
So, you know, I imagine a good amount of Trump hate will be coming on this platform for the
foreseeable future because of that. So, yeah, if you're looking for whatever the newest trend is,
just keep doing whatever Elon says. Just agree with everything he says. Eric Fivehead Club,
what's up? Hey, what's up, dude? I just wanted to say, because you previously talked about both parties hating Elon now,
and I don't think so.
I don't think Democrats ever really hated him.
I think Democrats are just, they support anything against Trump.
So I think they'll jump back on board as being Elon fans, buying Teslas and all that stuff.
But the funny thing is, I think on the flip side of that, I think the MAGA crowd is going
to double down on MAGA, and they're going to be a lot less Elon right now.
But the Trump era ends in 2028 anyway.
So it'll be interesting to see if Elon continues in the public light and possibly into a 2028 campaign of some sort.
If Democrats shift from going against Trump to now going against Elon to keep him out of the public light after that. So I don't,
I think it's just going to flip. I don't think he's going to lose support from both parties.
I think he's going to gain support from Democrats. I mean, I'll disagree with you on one thing. I
don't think the Democrats just embrace him now. There's no need to. What's the upside to embracing
him? You know, he's going to keep attacking Trump no matter what they do. So I don't think they embrace him.
And I'll also say it's just like the Republicans couldn't get anything done,
even with a majority in the Senate and the House and the presidency.
They couldn't get anything done.
I mean, that's why Elon hates them is because they couldn't get anything done. Right now.
It's so funny because it's like I'm kind of everyone's like, what team are you on?
Well, I'm kind of both. When it comes to are you on? Well, I'm kind of both.
When it comes to the big, beautiful bill, I love the expansion of the tax cuts.
But then I also think I agree with Elon that they should also cut a lot of spending.
So it's like, how do you agree with without getting shit on by everyone?
But what's what's crazy is like this.
I think most people can agree this is a bad this is bad for Democrats or Republicans.
This is bad for especially in 2026.
It's like you couldn't get anything done with the majority in the House and the majority in the Senate and the presidency.
Like, how are you going to get anything done now?
I mean, I think this is like the nail in the coffin for us ever getting, you know, deficit or spending cuts, right?
It's just like we couldn't get spending cuts when it was all Republicans.
Now Republicans are probably cooked because their leader was just called a pedophile by
one of the most powerful people in the entire world.
And it's like, okay, how are you spending cuts now?
Like this is, it was already a disaster.
Now this is like a super disaster.
This is a disaster on the highest level
oh yeah no republicans are completely cooked and they have nobody else to blame but themselves
they could win with single issue bills they could have literally made the cuts first and foremost
honestly i think they overplayed their hands listening to the influencers and especially
listening to influencers on elon's app mind you
real quick new elon tweet real quick new elon tweet in light of the president's statement
about cancellation of my government contracts spacex will begin decommissioning its dragon Immediately. I don't... Holy...
Holy shit.
Things are getting worse and worse.
Goddamn.
So much for expansion into Mars.
Buy at the bottom.
Hurry up.
Get in.
Buy at the bottom, guys.
Sorry.
Excuse me.
Can I ask a question real quick just on the global scale of things?
Because I'm from the UK.
How does this look to the rest of the world right now?
Well, wouldn't we be the one asking you that?
I mean, we live in America.
You said you're from the UK.
Shouldn't we be asking you that question?
Yeah, I guess you should.
Yeah.
I was just curious.
Okay.
So how do we look to the rest of the world right now?
That's just a really good point.
I guess the rest of the world, look at it.
Oh, thank you.
I just came up with that question myself. uh sorry on the spot uh i guess i just look at it
as an interesting insight into what you guys are doing um i don't know i honestly i think the world
is taken by storm right now i think it's a massive shock to the rest of the world and how they look
at things in the u.s that's uh as the leader of the free world right so seeing you've got the
powerhouse and you've got the one of the supposedly richest men in the world,
I just...
How are you guys all feeling about this, I suppose?
That's just my question. Thank you.
You came up here to ask us how we're feeling about things.
No, you tell us how you're feeling about things, bro.
I'm the fucking host here.
You come up here, you say you're from the UK.
How are you feeling about this?
Honestly, like, I guess kind kind of shocked to be honest with you
that's you come up on this space and go oh i'm shocked uh do tell do tell more what else you
got here say something spicy man we gotta keep we gotta keep the listener counts going up you
can't just fucking come up here and say i'm'm shocked. Give us more. Yeah. Does this look like he's going to lead to like a Elon run in the 2028 election?
You tell me.
You tell me.
Give us that.
I bring you up on stage not to ask other people questions.
If I wanted you to host, I'd make you a co-host right now.
George Thomas, UGC director.
Make UGC great again hat.
Right.
If I wanted you to host and ask people questions up here,
I'd give you a co-host invite,
but you're in the speaker spot.
So as a speaker spot,
your responsibility is to say crazy ass shit
that keeps the listener count going up.
So George, Thomas, UGC director,
go ahead and say some shit
that will keep the listener count going up of this space.
I have nothing.
I'll just leave. Sorry, guys. Out of curiosity, why did you hit the request button? Well, this space i have nothing i'll just leave sorry
guys out of curiosity why did you have a banner with a hat you wearing a hat called usa and then
you're from the uk and then you're asking what does it look like for other people like just give
us something come on give us any just say anything remotely interesting i mean sorry this is my first
time i'm not so sure how to speak uh to be a speaker. So I guess just...
Sorry, no, I got nothing.
I'll leave here, sorry.
Say literally anything interesting at all.
It doesn't even have to be about politics.
And he left.
Jesus Christ.
Just say you poop every day.
He's never doing a space ever.
How's the weather where you're at?
That guy will never do a space ever again.
I just scared him off from spaces for the rest of his life.
He's never going to request one.
You did, Alex.
You did. The Brits are all, always very,
very shy about these kinds of things
and they don't do confrontation.
So there you go.
Did I go too far?
With the Brit, I think you did.
You helped contribute to,
yeah, you helped contribute to killing the spaces scene.
Now it's even worse.
It's even, it's even deader.
I don't think I went too hard on him.
He came up here, he raised his hand and then he like asked like kind of a milquetoast question to the team
he's british for fuck's sake alex they don't do confrontation they do nice and it was clearly
like a question that he just pulled like pulled out of his ass like right there like he didn't
prepare that question like he's like oh shit i'm on stage uh what do you guys think uh like yeah no he he definitely used chat jippity for that one jippity i don't know i don't think i was too
harsh he came up here he didn't say anything like i'm gonna don't request to come up unless
you got something interesting to say i got a fucking crowd to manage here we're at all-time
highs we're at 350 listeners i can't be having having British people come up not saying anything. It makes the listeners go down.
Yeah, this is literally the biggest non-bodied space on the platform right now.
And I mean, honestly, if you're not here, I don't know what you're doing with your life.
I don't know. Let's go to Stephanie. Stephanie loves.
Stephanie is the USA Cooked.
Well, you know what? I'm sad. This was such drama that we didn't need to see.
So you have Elon and Trump, right?
Why couldn't they act like grownups and behave like grownups?
Instead, they're creating division like the communist playbook instead.
So it's really, I think, a bunch of bullshit and that they need to put their big pants
on and start acting like adults.
We got the president of the United States acting the way he is, and then you got Elon dropping the Epstein stuff.
It's like, don't drop shit like that unless you're going to bring receipts and have some respect for the president of the United States.
I like Elon. I like Trump. I like both. I'm not on a team because they both are bring things to the table. So I just think it's a bunch
of bullshit. I feel like, and this is going to be a next point of discussion. I just want everybody,
if you can, if you're not, if spaces haven't crashed for you yet, a look at the jumbotron right here i have a post by rep andy
ogles i'm all in for more cuts to the bill it's big but it's not beautiful yet the sense job is
to make the bill better before sending it back to us the house's job is to pass doge rescissions and
eo codification bills that are collecting dust and then you look at the very bottom, the communion note, Rep. Andy Ogles
voted for the bill. So my question is, why aren't we more pissed off at Congress right now? And then
if you look, some of the same influencers that have basically sided with Elon at the same time
are now congratulating him and tapping him on the back. I just want to ask, is Congress really the main villain here? And thank you. 100%. We elected them too. And we're going to lose in 2026
because they're a bunch of pussies who sit back on their laurels and wait to the next election.
We are going to lose and he's going to get impeached. We're going to win 2026 anyway.
Yeah, no, no, no, definitely not. And I think we need to have an honest discussion as well about
elon's hand in this which is empowering some of the nastiest voices on the platform and allowing
them to become front and center page i think that that's also played a role in a lot of people just
sort of saying yeah you know what forget the republic And I don't, do I need to go
into detail? Does anybody need me to go into detail about some of the stuff that I'm talking
about or have we all seen it? I mean, you can talk ad nauseum about it. It would really make
my day if you just give us a rundown of all of the bullshit we've been dealing with. Honestly,
I'm not surprised that this is where we're at,
right? You know, you have two very powerful people and then you have a Congress that doesn't
give two flying Fs about anyone they represent. They're happy to pad their, you know, wonderful
little pockets with whatever nonsense they're trying to sell. And, um, you know, I personally hate these
omnibus type bills because they're always putting stuff in right at the last minute
Rand Paul or not Rand Paul Thomas Massey was talking about that, how it literally came out
minutes before people were voting on it. And it's full of a bunch of junk. And while I do want to see what Trump said he was going to do come to fruition,
I don't understand why it is that we just can't seem to get our act together.
Like we have all of this money that we're spending on crap we don't need.
Why don't we just cut it?
It's all above my pay grade.
And now these two very powerful people are fighting via tweets.
And a part of me thinks that maybe it's just one big circus, right? And now these two very powerful people are fighting via tweets.
And a part of me thinks that maybe it's just one big circus, right?
And that it's intentional.
And, you know, it's all for show, right?
Like, what are we missing?
Because normally there's always this big distraction like this, right? And there's always something lurking under the surface that like three people start talking about.
So does anyone have a theory on what's going on underneath Trump and Elon fighting right now that might actually save America?
Because whatever this shit show is right now, I don't know what we're going to do about it, but I don't like it.
Elon Musk is talking about his granddaughter.
I was on the phone.
Did anyone say anything stupid?
Yeah.
I mean, I said lots of stupid things like I always do, Alex, but you didn't miss
anything important.
Elon slept with Trump's granddaughter. That's what happened.
That's why he's mad.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on now.
She literally just turned 18.
We can't go that far yet.
Even though Elon was the one that literally said Trump was on the Epstein list.
Elon just agreed that J.D. Vance should become president after we impeach Trump.
Elon said yes.
Wait, hold on.
I love the fucking reply section of anything. I say this is the first time I've been embarrassed by our country.
And some guy replies, shut the fuck up, pussy.
I just love the Internet, man.
It's so good.
Just the Internet's such a nice place, man.
You know, we can't we cannot absolve Elon for the responsibility of going to play politics in what is now a fruitless endeavor, while this app essentially has become what it's become as well.
I think we also have to think about that because, yeah, this app and the rhetoric and a lot of what's been shared and propagated on this app is also responsible for some of the stupid feedback loops that the trump administration
which is now more tapped into x than ever has been on like whoever said that again
making bravado about deporting illegal immigrants was more important to the american people than
getting the best prices and getting out of the financial pain that we're in. Whoever said that and whoever also gave them the idea
that tariffs were literally the biggest hot button issue,
yeah, that probably came from X.
That's the level of retardation that we're dealing with.
And that's Elon.
That's on him.
So I'm just saying.
Jackie, what did you say again jackie
never mind um mama bear how you doing mama bear is this the lowest point in u.s history
it's pretty damn close that's for sure uh also a lowest point is in this space right now the
fact that you only have like a few reposts,
you guys seriously show some respect.
I forgot to fucking show the space.
Thank you, Mama Bear.
Everyone hit the pill on the bottom right
and immediately retweet it now.
Immediately.
I demand it.
Bottom right, purple pill,
hit the retweet button immediately.
Now.
I already did that.
Sorry, Alex.
I was off on something else but i what i said was
that elon had just uh supported uh the fact that trump should be impeached and jd vance take over
his presidency that just got elon said that elon said that yep i posted it look in the in the uh
purple pill i put that in there. I reposted it.
It just got worse.
He even quote posted a post that said that the document...
Hold on.
Let me go ahead and put my reading glasses on.
By A.G.
A.G. Hamilton 29.
The relationship between Trump and Epstein is well established.
Trump flew on Epstein's plane at least seven times,
though it was not clear he ever went to the island.
Here's what Trump said about Epstein in a 2002 NY magazine profile,
and Elon just quote posted that with a raised eyebrow emoji.
So yeah, all a part of the plan, right?
All a part of the plan.
Trump's, here's Trump's truth i don't mind elon turning against
me but he should have done so months ago this is one of the greatest bills ever presented to
congress it's a record cut in expenses 1.6 trillion dollars and the biggest tax cut ever given. Listen, like I'm all for get rid of taxes. I'm all for it. But like you can't
say, hey, we're fixing the deficit and then say I'm giving the biggest tax cut in history. Like
those are two like I don't know if people understand this, but when you tax, when you get
rid of taxes, that's less money and the deficit gets worse. Like so I'm not saying I'm pro taxes.
I fucking hate taxes. I fucking hate taxes.
I fucking hate them.
I'm just saying like, it's just, it's just like, I think there's a conflict there when you say, oh, we're saving so much and you go over, it's the biggest tax cut in history.
It's like this.
Those are two different, like those are contradictory things.
Like if you get rid of tax cuts, it's less revenue to fix the debt.
I don't know. Maybe
I'm just crazy. I don't think you're looking at what Trump's looking at is bringing in all that
investment down the line. We were supposed to patiently wait to grow the economy. Elon even
said he's got to get his optimist out there quick and start really growing this economy because
the deficit climbs and climbs. Why why can't we cut expenses?
Why can't we?
We can and should.
But I think Trump's vision is longer than Elon's.
And I don't know what rub there is between them, but it's definitely personal now.
You can tell.
Elon will probably live longer than Trump.
Well, he said that.
He made a post and said, Trump's president for three and a half years.
and said, Trump's president for three and a half years. I'm around for the next 40.
I'm around for the next 40.
So Nicole Shanahan just came out in favor of Elon's third party. I mean, shit's going down.
It's crazy right now. But at what point, like I keep hearing, oh, long term vision,
long term vision, four years isn't that long. So at what point do you start cut spending?
You know, like what point is there a bill that cuts the spending like how is it one year in two years in is it like the last day in
office like if it's not now i was hoping it was next week they were going to get started if they're
smart they would i mean jesus i was hoping it was three months ago yeah well how do you cut the
spending when you levy tariffs which mean that the stuff that you need to purchase by, you know, in order to, let's just say, you know, build
production factories and plants here, it gets more expensive.
And then you have to pass that cost. You have to throw
subsidies at companies like how do you cut spending there?
Because that in that more money spent out giving subsidies to
companies to, you know, incentivize them to start
building or it, you know, am I? Am I crazy here or does it just sound
like nobody has a plan? No, I don't think you're crazy, but the short-term pain that Trump has
referred to is just that. We're going to suffer along the way for a while until his grand vision
all comes together, all the parts and pieces. And he's got the Scott Best Ends of the World
and all of the cabinet members lined up behind this thing.
And Elon's the first guy to jump ship
and throw the nuclear grenade.
So, you know.
Do you think there's truly a path
for this country to spend less money?
Yes, if you cut entitlements entitlements yes if you cut defense spending
that's it why couldn't they do that yet trying to cut entitlement by removing illegal immigrants
from the entitlement programs have you seen the blowback on that to date? Oh, yeah. People don't want to give up what they've already had. Nobody ever does.
So my question is, what also happens to the middle class that's employed by a lot of these companies that are currently on government contracts that might get cut? And how does that affect taxes and taxes and you know just sort of social welfare system
how does all that i can tell you i can tell you in terms of for example cancer research those
those programs have been have lost a ton of government funding and i know several
um microbiologist researchers etc that um just got their walking papers and lost their jobs so
that's one place that I know.
I know it's kind of kish, but it is nonetheless true.
And they're pissed.
No, yeah, no, that definitely is that that's significant.
And that's what I don't think a lot of people are seeing with Doge as well,
is that, yes, you're saying that we're cutting this and we're cutting that
and we're cutting this.
But have you ever stopped to think about and, you know, Alex,
Alex can attest this because I've
prattled on about this a lot, but the middle class is built off of the quote unquote inefficiency
in the government. A lot of these middle management jobs don't actually produce. They're
not like the key decision makers up top, nor are they the people manufacturing things. So what do they do?
Well, they help push papers. They attend the meetings, all things that people would see as inefficient. So what happens if you start cutting a lot of contracts that make these jobs possible?
What happens to the middle class? I have breaking news, if that's okay. Just rolled out by Elon
a minute ago.
He just shit on literally
the entire tariff concept.
Elon quote tweets,
the Trump tariffs will cause a recession
in the second half of this year.
He's calling his shot right now
that a major recession will be coming
in what? A month or two, basically.
No, it...
Didn't I just tell you guys?
See, this is why I hate what's happened with this platform.
Because you have so many influencers that have been boosted and elevated.
That say the stupidest crap and cheer it on.
And don't ever throw cautions to the highest level.
They don't ever say, hey, maybe we should kind of look at what we're doing because people literally are at risk here.
None of these people do.
But guess who elevated these influencers?
Guess who boosted them?
Guess who controls the algorithm on the app?
Sorry. Chat, we're cooked. No, we're cooked uh definitely not advice jump in so as far as the recession goes i mean we've been talking about that for
what five six years how badly we need it all of this has been propped up by spending our economy
is not doing well and if anything a recession would probably help the middle class.
The unfortunate part is it's going to decimate it in the process.
Okay.
When we look at housing prices, when we look at the value of the dollar, the problem is
if you don't control the crash, right?
They did this in 2008.
They didn't let it fully collapse.
And look at what has happened okay they
they instead of subsidizing americans they sent all that money to all the big banks they were too
big to fail i talked about this yesterday and um all we tend to do is we have all of these big
corporations they're too big to fail you know all of these foreign interests too big to
fail we have to send them money i wouldn't care if we were sending our own money to our own people
to make sure they were too big to fail but that's never what happens so we spend all this money
injecting it into the economy we devalue the dollar because it's not tied to anything other
than you know the fear that America will
come step foot in your sandbox, right? And now we've got housing prices we can't deal with.
We've got interest rates that aren't conducive to people buying homes because they're absolutely
insane. And if we don't do something about it, if we don't have a controlled demolition of all
of this nonsense, it's just going to keep
getting worse. I make pretty good money and I'm at the point where if I don't leave corporate
America, I'm going to go insane because it just gets more and more ridiculous, right?
We can't afford the things we once could in what we used to consider a good income, okay?
So on one hand, it would be nice if the economy would crash. I could
probably build a house finally. On the other hand, it's going to be absolutely awful for average
Americans. So you can either prepare for the fact that it is coming because it's unsustainable and
you can position yourself to survive through it, or you can put your head in the sand pretend like it's not going to happen and be absolutely decimated in in you in the wake at the end yeah i agree i think people
need to get prepared um i've been kind of preaching this for several months now i look
luckily this is all happening at the exact same time that I think success and money making has been completely democratized where anyone can just use AI to build any business or product they want.
This is all happening.
I think we're about to go through a tremendous amount of economic turmoil, in my opinion.
one way to build kind of insurance for yourself is to like build shit and sell shit and find other
ways to create economic freedom for yourself. And you have AI right now where you literally can go
to it and be like, hey, how do I start a business? How do I build something? You know, I've never
coded a day in my life. How do I build this? What do I do? And the AI will just tell you how to do it, right? And so
we're about to enter huge economic turmoil. And also the greatest way to ever create economic
opportunity for yourself has been invented and going mainstream right now, which is AI.
And so if you're in here, which is 272 people, if you're not going in AI on a daily basis and
just building something, you're fucking insane. really i'm sorry but you are like this is we got tariffs fucking
everything up we got now a president who's been accused of being a pedophile uh we got the richest
person in the world going nuclear uh in public like this is the craziest turmoil ever alex the
real question the real question is here, and you make great points.
Why is there only 272 people in this space?
The biggest, the best space on X with only 272 people disgusts me, right?
If we're being 100.
People, please retweet the space.
It's two seconds.
Click the top arrow.
Click share via post.
And let that baby spin.
Spin the block, baby.
Spin the block.
There should be 272 people in this space.
Not 272.
Yeah, man.
I'm just...
Sorry. I've got my uh telegram chats which uh man you know who loves us the most though you
know who loves us the most this fight congress congress was this the most you know why because
they don't get shit done they waste our time they are the worst people in the world. And I feel like, you know what?
They're lucky they don't have term limits.
And it's just, they're, they're disgraced.
They disgust me.
You know, you, you saw that like, um, who was it?
Graham, Lindsey Graham, the 800k at the hotel in Ukraine.
It's like, how do these people get away with this?
You know?
And like, I love Trump, but like, like, why isn't Trump talking about that? Why isn't Trump going after these people get away with this? You know? And, like, I love Trump, but, like, why isn't Trump talking about that?
Why isn't Trump going after these people and bringing light to that matter?
You know?
Look, I love Elon, too.
I don't even know how I feel about this whole thing.
I just think it's β Elon should have β they should have just talked it out.
And apparently some shit went down that we don't know.
I don't think we know what caused this.
I think something behind the scenes
got escalated, and
that's that. We don't know what
actually caused this, but we're gonna find out.
But I think the way Elon reacts,
he's reactionary.
That's how he reacts. He comes at
with guns.
And he's like, I'm gonna nail your ass,
I'm gonna beat you up, you hurt me,
and so I'm gonna come after you i just think that's how his how he deals with situations because you've seen how he's acted
online he continual they both do i mean but i'm yeah i get that but i'm why do you bite the hand
that feeds you though why do you bite the hand that feeds you? He's going to lose all his government contracts.
I mean, dude, Trump is not a sucker.
He will fuck Elon.
And he will take away all his government contracts.
He will destroy him.
Like, watch him do it.
Do you think the deal with Saudi Arabia was made knowing Trump kind of foresaw this happening and said, let me make this deal with Saudi Arabia?
Do you think there's any correlation there at all?
I don't think he foresaw it, but I think he definitely hedges his bets.
That's exactly what it was. Yep. Perfect. Yep.
Well, he's he did the whole thing in Saudi Arabia because there's a whole entire reevaluation going on in Iraq.
The whole entire Middle East is becoming a powerhouse in regards to their currency and everything.
So he went through Saudi Arabia.
He got Qatar and Saudi Arabia to pay off, who is it, Afghanistan's debt.
Or is it Syria's? I'm sorry, I it serious i'm sorry i don't which one it was it got
they paid off the debt so he created more peace throughout there because the shiates and the sunnis
were always fighting each other so he literally went in created peace through that because the
whole middle east is all about money and so he's brought them together to tie with money so he created more peace
over there so there's stages going on because there's so much going on more than just america
there's so much more
ah man who do you guys think so this is uh sweet i just read from uh an account i like named signal he said who has more to lose
trump or elon who do you who do you guys think has more to lose i think elon because first of
all he's younger this is second of all you know this trump is done after this anyway so like what
does he care you know and and for years for years the other thing we're not really talking about is
that you know the epstein files were kind of like when the democrats were in power
they could have released them you know we could have heard about this from the democrats but we
didn't you know and so i kind of wonder why you know he implied it but he didn't state it he said
we because we already knew he's been to you know he's been to that island a bazillion times. Or like seven or whatever. You know?
Yeah.
We knew Trump has been to Epstein a bazillion times.
Well, seven times.
It was seven times.
Seven times.
Seven times.
He's been in the White Logs because he has used Epstein's plane.
He's not been on the island.
He's used his plane.
Okay.
Okay.
And secondly, Trump, look, Trump is a proud person.
He wants to leave a Trump legacy
That's worth keeping
Trump's got a lot to lose
Trump's a good guy
I know everyone thinks he's scum of the earth
But I really do think he does care
About his family
And his country
I don't think he's scum
I like Trump
Trump's been through the ringer the last few years.
Elon has everything to lose, right?
He's so mad.
It's going to be...
It's bad.
I don't know if I caught her.
Sorry about that.
It's bad.
It's going to be bad for Elon because Trump can financially fuck Elon for the next three and a half years.
Oh, he'll make things really difficult for him.
Is he on Jeff Bezos store right now?
Well, okay, guys, here's what we're not talking about.
A lot of this blowback is still going to hit all the Elon associated properties because right now, SpaceX, again, if those contracts are canceled, well, that's money is not coming in.
And Tesla ston stocks are dropping at
the moment. Yes, you can buy in if you so choose, but Tesla stocks are dropping. What do you think
a lot of people that are Tesla stock owners are going to do? They're not really going to be very
happy about that. Again, Elon brought a lot of this stuff onto himself. I know there's something
that went on in the background and Elon was probably feeling like he was wronged, but this rash behavior right here makes it very easy to
justify, Hey, maybe you shouldn't be the CEO of this company. And a lot of people are going to
be pissed off. I'm seeing people saying, Oh, I'm making the true social accounting, yada, yada.
And let me just, let me be honest. X right now without conservatives buying
X premium and all of this stuff, it's not the same, man. Like a lot of the revenue goes and
this place is still toxic to a lot of good advertisers because of some of the content.
Well, most of the content that's on here, let's be honest. So it can be a cascade failure.
I know right now nobody's seeing it because everybody's in their fee fees and thinking
about how, who, who did what, who hit who, when, where, why, but the aftermath can be so much worse.
And that's what we all have to take a brief step back and look at. But I just don't know if Elon
has anybody in this camp that's telling them that. just don't know if elon has anybody in his camp
that's telling him that and i don't know if trump has anybody in his camp that's telling him that
but right now i mean it's like we already said trump doesn't have much to lose at this point
if stuff goes tits under he can ride the ant you know the anti-doge wave that's been created and
hands off our info elon wave was created. Trump can ride that.
Elon can blame Trump's tariffs for the recession,
but at the end of the day,
one guy's been there, done that before,
and the other guy, this is his first foray into it.
That's what I was about to say.
Remember 2016?
Donald Trump had no idea what he was in for
because he was not political before.
He got punched in the face.
And I think that that's what we're seeing here. Elon did not realize what he was in for because he was not political before he got punched in the face. And I think that that's what we're seeing here.
Elon did not realize what he was signing up for and how dirty government actually is.
And he had his temper tantrum this publicly on his own platform.
I mean absolute power corrupts absolutely too.
We must remember this when the most powerful men go have a knife fight in public, you know, at, you know, at the how do you say at the risk of everybody who's been investing in their companies, you know, voting for them, etc.
Like when he when they throw all this shit out here and cause this amount of turmoil, they're really not giving a shit about anybody but their ego.
And this is why I don't have any trust in men i you know me
i trust jesus we trust jesus um here's the thing here's the scary part i think these are probably
the world's two biggest egos trump and elon, I don't think either backs down. I mean, this makes
me nervous for my Tesla stock, honestly. Like, I wasn't nervous when they were showing videos,
like people firebombing Teslas on the news. I honestly was not nervous. I'm like, this is fine.
He's going to keep building robots. You know, they're going to come up with autonomy.
I'm nervous for my Tesla stock because you don't have the guy with the most power in the country.
He's not going to back down.
He's not going to.
He's not going to let this go.
And I am now, for the first time, very, very nervous about my Tesla stock.
Yeah, they're all two Rubicons.
And also, I know Jamessey is a bit of a
meme right now in political circles but if you would direct your eyes to the jumbotron james
lindsey has asked a very important question didn't elon just share classified info in an
effort to take down potus that's literally treason. Discuss. But what is it? Did Elon just share classified
an effort to take down POTUS? That's literally treason. I mean, is that classified information?
That's the reason why it's not being released, because Trump is on the flight logs,
or he's on the Epstein documents. It could be, and it does jeopardize a couple.
We already knew that. Yeah, we already knew it. I think that's the angle here is we already knew
Trump was mentioned in the Epstein files, but I think there's a clear implication here. And I think
Elon has, you know, he can just say, oh, well, we already knew it. We know he was mentioned in it,
but it's the implication that's so big here yeah it's the timing that he dropped it in the way he
said it it undermines a president trump as being legitimate as being a pedophile or a scum it's
actually really wrong to do exactly and it can it can have foreign policy and diplomatic effects
especially countries that have harsh stances on that.
It can jeopardize negotiations.
It's the fact that he said that's the reason why it hasn't been dropped yet.
That's detailing a scandal that's going on within the administration on how they're trying to handle it.
So now you're exposing a government process.
It's really going to be interesting to see how Trump responds with his Department of Justice.
If he goes after Elon really strong and weaponizes the federal government against Elon and his
contracts, when he has said over and over and over again that that's not what he's trying to do,
I'm going to stand back and watch that one because, you know,
I think Trump is at this moment in time wanting to burn Elon to the ground.
Who knows what happened between them?
But Elon has also said, I don't want to go to war, but I will if I have to.
I might be late for the game.
I'm sorry, Jackie, go ahead.
Sorry, they just, so Elon just posted a one minute of a of a video of trump in
1992 partying with jeffrey jeffrey epstein no i'm gonna leave this here he just posted that
he's he's quadrupling down that's bullshit alex what's your stock at what's your stock at alex
i i'm still up here's the good news i'm still up 13% on my Tesla holdings.
Do I just call it?
Do I just throw it in?
Sell it all.
Dump it.
This is not good.
No, wait.
This is old news.
We got to give a disclaimer.
This is not financial advice.
Apes, this is not financial advice.
Paper hands, diamond hands.
We're mean-y.
Well, the good news is my Robinhood holdings, my hood holdings are 10 times as big as my Tesla holdings.
So I can sell here and just buy.
For those who don't know, I'm like the biggest shareholder of Robinhood in the world.
I've been all in on Robinhood for a very long time now. I'm now rich because of it. So
shout out everyone here. You're hanging out with a rich person. I just real quick, Alex,
and I might be late to the game here, but I just saw this and it's, this is crazy. Obviously,
this is a while back. You guys may have already touched on this, but Elon seems to agree with
the notion that Trump should be impeached and J.D. Vance should replace him.
Now, you guys may have already said this, but even that as a cosign is crazy, right?
I mean, what the fuck?
I mean, this is I don't even think this is dramatic to say.
I hope there's a polymarket that's made around this.
There should be a polymarket that's made around this.
I think there's a decent chance they arrest Elon Musk. Right. He's I mean, he's going after Trump,
all his political opponents. Right. He's arrested or prosecuting a lot of his political opponents.
Elon Musk might be his biggest opponent now of all of them. Of all of them. Elon might be the
like what the damage he's doing to Trump right now with these videos of Epstein is beyond comprehension.
I really don't, like, we haven't even seen the damage yet, right?
Now you're going to see every Democrat going around, oh, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
Like, this is a nuclear bomb.
And I really wouldn't be surprised if they arrest Elon Musk now.
Yeah, because, I mean, what's the alternative?
I was about to ask.
Go ahead.
Hold on, let me ask real quick.
What's the alternative if Trump does nothing?
Then people say, oh my God, he might have really done it.
And then who's going to work with him in Congress?
Who works with him?
Think about this. Yeah, he's going to work with him in Congress? Who works with him? Think about this.
Yeah, he's going to do something.
He's not going to just stay quiet.
He's not just going to give in.
His ego is too big to just give in.
Just to say, yep, you got me.
This is going to be a back and forth of all.
I mean, this is like Thanos versus Doctor Doom right here.
Again, I'm on a huge comic book kick right now.
I've been buying comic books left and right.
Shout out me.
Big nerd.
This is as big as it gets.
It's crazy.
But, you know, like by dropping these kind of old videos and stuff, even if they're, which I thought they were incorrect, right?
You're creating, you're tearing down his credibility one bit at a time.
And Elon is doing that.
It's like, why do you want to do that?
He is the president of the United States.
It's like, why are you doing this?
You know, just because you were told that you're, which I don't believe, I don't think
that he should have got his grants or whatever the
verbiage was for taken away from him. But why do this? Why do this?
Who does it benefit?
It doesn't. It hurts the American people. It hurts us.
I've got a theory, if I can butt in and throw it your way, because I want to see what you guys think of this.
I'm watching this whole situation,
and particularly his quote tweet of Ian Miles Chung about Trump. And I'm seeing as well,
a lot of people who I follow, a lot of people on the timeline talking about J.D. Vance and kind
of pushing this idea that, well, maybe J.D. Vance is just maybe less of a troublemaker than Trump is.
Trump always finds himself in these conflicts. It is setting off some
red flags to me. It is totally. And if you look, by the way, with the recent Palantir business,
it seems like there is a consolidation and certainly a push to make J.D. Vance, you know,
this kind of new Trump, but less controversial, which, by the way, has happened every single
election. It happened in 2016. It happened with Ron DeSantis in the last primaries.
So what do you guys think of that? Do you think there might be some some elements in deep state or deep tech element?
He's trying to push J.D. Vance using this conflict. Yes. Yes.
I'll go ahead and say it. Yes. And that was I was never sold on J.D. Vance.
And the reason why is because he is. As people have have called him the patron saint of Peter Thiel
the tech right
pretty much embedded in the administration
you saw this
and people want to hold
politicians to the statements
that they've said about Trump calling them
things like Hitler and all of this
and then say oh but dance
can change but yet they don't apply
the same standard to the other
politicians that have said terrible things about Trump. So it's like, if a leopard doesn't change
its spots, then why do you think that this leopard all of a sudden has stripes? So real. Yeah, I agree
with you absolutely on that. And I think, you know, you look at the person he is, it is very gentle, you know, step of the way.
You look at the career that he's had, which has been funded by Peter Thiel.
You look at, you know, the name changes he has undergone.
To me, frankly, a recent one, I'm not even Catholic, but the fact that he didn't kiss the Pope's ring, like, as a Catholic,
this was just one of those, like like microcosms of a larger problem, which is that he's willing to, you know, kind of compartmentalize certain parts of his real
true personality in order to fit whatever is, you know, maybe most popular or most effective
at the time.
And so I didn't buy it all this.
Well, it's just the U.S.
code.
It's like, dude, you're a Catholic.
That's the vicar of Christ to you.
What's going on?
There's nothing authentic about this guy.
Someone's going to lose.
It's either going to be Elon or Trump.
Trump loses.
What's the result?
Impeachment?
Vance gets in.
Yep.
Vance wins.
If Elon loses, I mean, that's so detrimental to this country.
It's insane.
What if it's an internal working here?
What if J.D. Vance...
Now, hear me out here.
J.D. Vance, behind the scenes,
him and Elon a little closer to age,
maybe had a little private dinner one day,
and Vance said, let's do this.
I don't think so.
I'm throwing it out there.
That's just real speculative.
You know, we could go down the rabbit hole on that one, too.
What I'd really like to speculate about is what happened between Elon Musk and the president.
For fuck's sake.
I mean, what is so bad and terrible that happened that they're going to blow up the whole world?
blow up the whole world. I mean, this economically is the world.
I mean, this economically is the world.
I think it's obvious, which is Elon wanted spending to be cut immediately. Trump wasn't
willing to do it immediately for either good reasons or bad reasons. I'm going to give him
the benefit of the doubt. I'm going to say Trump wanted to cut spending, but he just couldn't with
the current political system. elon didn't like
that elon wanted to fight harder and that fraction right i think elon funded this whole campaign with
the promise that trump would cut spending and his patience ran out four months in and said up your
time's up you didn't do it fuck you and now we're at this huge ego battle i think that's too simple
too simple no no it is 100 is 100 that because because Elon's name is attached to this and Doge pretty much drew
a whole bunch of fire to Elon.
And now you're telling me that, oh, we're only getting a couple of billion and they're
not even going to be modified and you're spending more.
So, you know, it's like, well, I joked.
It's like, was I a joke? That's probably how he's feeling.
That's probably how he's feeling.
And also when you look at the fact that, again, Elon is, I don't know how to say this,
but he's wanting to have a hat trick of his own.
And it seems like Trump is also messing that up with his nationalist agenda with the tariffs fight,
which I do think probably would affect Tesla and SpaceX a lot more than
they were letting on. And there was some, you know, there was clashing behind the scenes over
that. You guys remember it. Like I said, who was it that Elon called the biggest idiot in Trump's
cabinet? And it just kind of got smoothed over. There was somebody. I forgot it.
But, you know, that fight happened.
That was messing with Elon's property.
Then Trump sided again with his tariffs.
So all of this stuff just sort of mounted.
And I think that something happened between Elon and Stephen Miller.
I really do.
And then it's just like Trump, once again, sided with his cabinet. So Elon said,
okay, well, fine. I'm no longer an employee. Then I'm just going to go ahead and, well,
I'm going to tell all. He started doing interviews. He started saying, well, I never really felt good about what was going on in the administration. But of course, I can't say anything.
So all of this just goes down to the fact that, again, it makes it look like Elon took
time off from his companies to go essentially do nothing.
And that's a bad look for Elon.
And he knows that.
So he needs some kind of win.
And Trump and Congress just aren't giving him that win.
And Trump isn't backing him
and Trump is calling the bill that's barely doing anything and actually nullifying his work
the big beautiful bill it's the best bill ever because he's siding once again with his whole
anti-immigration stance and all of his other little pet projects over what he promised Elon
so I mean just think about it. Again, do the math.
Steve Bannon
just said that
Elon should be deported and
investigated for drug use.
They should initiate a formal
investigation of his immigration status
because I am of the strong belief that
he is an illegal alien
and he should be deported from the country
immediately.
Holy shit.
Okay.
Bannon has never liked Elon though.
Bannon and Elon don't get along.
That's why he doesn't use X.
Because he refuses to.
So that's an ideological thing.
Bannon's been on this tip.
Since the early 2000s.
So we gotta leave it alone with that.
Yeah, but Trump's going to now take his side, dude.
Trump's going to listen to this shit now.
Well, you know, Ian Miles Cheong, how do you say that guy's name?
That is the worst pronunciation I have ever heard of.
Ian Miles Cheong.
Thanks.
It's also the most accurate.
But he deserves it.
Let's give her some credit.
He deserves it.
He writes, President versus Elon.
Who wins?
My money's on Elon.
Trump should be impeached and J.D. Vance should replace him.
That guy's not even from the United States, right?
He's a great guy.
I don't think he's ever been to the country.
I mean, we all do.
He can shut his mouth.
We'll just sort of let it happen.
Let's be honest.
It's just kind of one of those things that we're just like, okay, yeah, I mean, he's here.
He's not going to. Well, an interesting thing that I want to point out,'re just like, okay, yeah, I mean, he's here. He's not going to.
Well, an interesting thing that I want to point out, too.
Oh, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
I just wanted to ask, why is it that the Democrats never, ever have these issues and they just go home?
Because they don't suck.
Republicans suck.
Republicans are the jobbers.
If this is WWE, Republicans are always the jobbers.
I agree with the hate of the Republican Party, but I disagree that it doesn't happen on the
side.
I remember in the first Trump admin, especially when there was a contested House and Senate,
there was a huge split between the progressives, between the Ilhan Omar type stuff, very similar
to what we saw with like
Matt Gaetz and the more like America First coalition on the Republican side. I think the
difference is just the scale. But yeah, I think it's also just the way we interact with politics.
You know, just the right wing personality is much more conducive to to blowing up conflict.
It's a much more confrontational than leftists are just not only that, not not only that,
though, but when aoc and
the early squad were making their rumblings and all that you know what happened mama pelosi swept
in and she shut that down like instantly yeah for real republicans don't have anybody to do that
you just reminded me too it's like bernie got totally like gypped out of the nomination in 2016
was totally robbed by his party.
Like that was a big deal.
He put him in the cuck chair
and guess what he's still doing?
Guess what Bernie's doing right now?
Cucking.
Cucking.
Watching from the corner.
Literally.
one thing I wanted to point out.
May I ask real quick?
Is it Kai speaking?
Because I can't tell.
Kai speaking.
Yeah, my bad.
My bad.
No, you're good, Kai.
Go ahead.
Just real fast.
One of the things, the interesting things that I saw was, you know, that, sorry, I'm
cooking on the side.
Trump's statement was that Elon was a fail.
And Elon came out saying that he had not even seen it.
There's a disconnect in the two
perceptions of this like it would say well i could not really read through it but he didn't say that
he said i haven't even seen the bill so there has to be some third party that's absolutely like
there's not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that there is a third party here manipulating the
perception of one towards the other.
And I think, frankly, you know, Trump is being gypped, especially in this case.
There is somebody definitely in his ear saying, yeah, Elon's like totally fine with it.
Whether that's just like the GOP establishment, like trying to get him to, you know, push on the bill or whatever, I don't know.
But there is a huge, you know, red flag there when the two parties have completely opposite views of the reality of whether or not Elon saw the bill.
Yeah, that's just something that raised a huge red flag to me.
There's a lot of subterfuge going on.
And this is what I'll tell anybody about politics.
Whoever you think is against each other.
Multiply that by about five or six, because that's how many different parties and powers and groups
are at play so yeah also you have to look at the fact as well and this is something not a lot of
people uh you know look at i'm friends with grace chong and she's basically steve bannon's acolyte
and his voice on this platform because he refuses to use it and remember early on when jd vance called her
a blithering imbecile it's literally her banner no but continue it's literally her banner so i'm
just saying you know that's kind of his stance because she all she does is you know really echo
more abandons points and when she was doing that Vance literally called her an imbecile
so if you want to point the finger at maybe Vance might be pulling a little bit because you know
his backers and you know the people who are essentially you know sort of responsible for
his career are telling him to you have to also look at that. And that's where it goes back to this whole,
there are more parties at play here than you even understand.
And they're all pretending to get along with each other
while they've got a knife held at each other's throats from different angles.
So we have on stage Kashif, Kashif Abbas, who, and then then he left the moment I said he's on stage.
He left.
Cause he was definitely trying to engagement for him.
This fucking space.
And he heard me calling him.
He's like,
Oh no,
I didn't mean I didn't want him to call on me.
nevermind then.
anyway,
I don't know.
Shit's fucked.
Shit's fucked,
man.
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We'll question a jab here.
Go ahead.
Allegedly, I've heard
Elon Musk has approached you
about potentially purchasing
creator buddy from you.
That's what I've heard.
Probably no validity to it.
He really likes what you're doing.
He's approached you about
potentially buying
creator buddy from you.
Can you confirm or deny that?
Legally, I'm not allowed to comment. Potentially buying creator buddy from you. Can you confirm or deny that legally?
I'm not allowed to comment.
Enough said Alex,
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Will I make money doing that?
Yes.
Can I just sign up and I'll do it.
And I start making money. They got to they gotta prove you but uh, I know
Somebody on the team and I can
I'm they're gonna look at your following and then they're gonna accept you right away
So it's not even like I have to say is there like like but are there people watching on there?
Like if I go live on there will I actually have watchers
That you gotta kind of have a name for yourself honestly i know i kind of answered the question
with that pause right now it's not a good answer uh because that's kind of important too like i
need to have if i'm going to live stream i want people watching you know it's important as well
you can do it on you if you're going to stream on x or stream on whatever video youtube whatever it
is you can do multiple streams at once so it's not like you have to yeah you know what i'm saying like yeah you get them going stream there yeah yeah exactly
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Let's go, dude.
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Oh, yeah, sounds good.
Thanks, Alex.
Of course, my man.
And also good contributions.
You did good on here, too.
I liked your contributions, Moon High.
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