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ROAD TO CORES pt. 2
Recorded: May 7, 2025 Duration: 1:05:28Space Recording
Short Summary
Excitement builds as Sugartown gears up for the Coors token launch, offering free mints and strategic partnerships to enhance user engagement. The community anticipates a vibrant ecosystem with innovative gaming experiences and fundraising initiatives, signaling a positive trend in Web3 gaming.
Full Transcription
Music wow we got rugged i blame raj i also blame raj it is Raj's fault I heard Finn was spitting
But we got rugged
I was getting rugged before then
I was trying to fix it
Who knows what's happening
But we're getting everybody back here
So make sure you retweet the room again
Because we got rugged
And it is Raj's fault
Make sure if you have a problem with it
It is Raj's fault Make sure sure if you have a problem with it, it is Raj's fault.
Make sure you tag him at RajP underscore 14.
And if you tag him,
I will send you his personal cell phone number.
That is a camel promise.
That's a crazy thing to promise.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
I'll double down.
I'll give you his social security number.
I'll give you his fucking social security number.
Home address.
Blood type.
Alright, if you guys
want to know very personal information about Raj,
just make sure that you comment underneath the space.
Retweet. Share with your
friends. Tell them that they can get Raj's
social security number, credit card information,
and mother's maiden name. Thank you so much. Okay, but what if i want to see less of raj and know less
about raj i don't know how to give it to you anyway like i just feel like if i give it to you
you could like get rid of him somehow yeah like maybe instead of like stealing his identity you
could just delete it that's utility can i get that if I buy cores? Yes.
Every core comes with Raj's personal data.
It's part of the roadmap
is Raj's personal information.
What we're going to do, guys,
here's what we're going to do.
We're going to shard Raj's social security number
amongst all of the cores.
And so the only way you'll ever be able to get it
is if somebody collects every single core
and they're able to piece it back together.
Hey, guys, have you guys heard of, I don't know, My Consent? Seriously?
There's a permissionless ecosystem, Raj.
Decentralization, baby.
Okay, this is what we're doing. Okay, got it.
That's what we're doing today, buddy.
So anyways, I think before we got rugged,n was saying a lot of big words about abstract
xp how it was so cool and how the ecosystem is so beautiful so i don't know if you want to just
like pick up where you left off dude i'll rip back into it i'll rip back yeah just get right
back into it like slap yourself in the face let's lock in so one of the things i was getting at
before we got rudely interrupted is the reason 2021 is such a
like focal point for a lot of people is because there's this bell curve effect of like when you
first interact with a new product, there's like your exploratory phase where you do things and
you don't understand why you're rewarded for them. And in 2021 NFTs, the reason they were so
successful and the reason that a lot of people
still feel like that was like the prime time for NFTs was there was a reward for natural curiosity.
And there was a penalty for forced interaction. What I mean by that is like, if you came into
NFTs through, say, like Logan Paul, or through the at NFT Instagram, you probably got wrecked, right?
You probably like got destroyed in these NFTs because you were being forced into these channels.
You're like, I'm not going to explore myself and let someone tell me what to do.
And when you did that, you got punished for it.
But the people who came in and were just naturally interested in exploring the ecosystem are the
people who found Bored Apes and Doodles and Azuki and all these other NFTs, right?
They found these projects that were coming from a community first approach and also like a natural engagement approach.
So the reason I say that is because the abstract XP system is actually built
off of a very similar concept, which is it is so much better to allow people to like naturally find
out what they love and enjoy and get a reward for doing that than it is to force them and say,
hey, you have to use this product for this reason
on this date or you're gonna miss out.
And it's really interesting.
I think when we first kind of put out
our kind of announcement about this,
everyone's like, oh, it's blast again.
That died really quick, right?
Like that sentiment died off really quick.
And actually I haven't heard anyone come back and compare that because the
reality is like, we think we build a sustainable model again, you know,
test of time that's going to be found out over the longterm,
but we think that we, you know,
found this kind of system that is actually going to work really, really well.
And again, it's all built in that like natural curiosity.
I think it plays into what you guys are doing a lot too.
Like I think, i think the the product that you guys are releasing and this is going to be me not saying anything too specific because i don't know how much you've
shared externally versus how much you've shared with me um but the product and ecosystem you guys
are building is like very much catered to that same approach um and so that was that's what's
always been made me really really excited about like working with you guys is that like you have a very similar interest in like you need to
allow people to do what they want to do and then find out how you reward that behavior instead of
telling people you have to do xyz and if you don't do xyz like you're gonna miss out and you're gonna
get screwed i love it that was beautiful um have you been taking some like pr classes like that was just
you know or have you just done that spiel no i'm just eating some fucking cinnamon sugar bread
i don't know i love it i love it um but yeah no i think users do want to feel incentivized and
rewarded for playing but they want to like choose how they do it because that makes the ecosystem
fun and that is something that we hold very near and dear to our own hearts as well.
I want to throw it over to Tommy, who's kind of the mastermind behind the madness over here
in terms of how that looks in our ecosystem.
And before I do that, because he will not say it himself,
he is the mastermind behind some of the biggest economies in games like FarmVale
and other games that I don't remember
the names of off the top of my head but they are equally as big so Tommy say words words um
very well spoken Ben uh I think the everything said you know I think reminds me just like of a
lot of like web two games.
When you force, so there's something in web two games where it's called like incentivize marketing or incentivize like user acquisition and engagement where you offer someone
like a gift card or something to actually download your game. It's pretty common practice
and you get a lot of volume and installs for a mobile. But what happens is your retention for those is like shit.
Like you'll get like, you know, for context, usually a good retention number
where day one is like 40%.
If a incentivized user comes in, their retention is like 5%.
And so when you incentivize people with the wrong way, they don't stick around.
Um, I think what we've seen with XP is that it has really sticky
and staying power with the way it was implemented. A lot of obviously shout out and kudos go
to the core team, you know, Saigar, like with the frame team, and then also obviously Michael.
And I think, you know, when I talked about group 4, and for those who honestly don't know, like, who actually leads the abstract group, Michael Lee is from ex-Blizzard, ex-Activision, worked on pretty, like, high-profile games within the Blizzard, like, ecosystem.
And so the team is pretty Web3 native, but also comes from a Web2 native background as well.
I think that's where we have such strong alignment with like who we are at SugarTown.
I think that's where we have such strong alignment with, like, who we are at CircuitTown.
We came from a Web 2 background, but we have a lot of Web 3 natives and also a lot of people
that have been in Web 3 as well.
We also recognize the importance of rewarding users in the right way and rewarding people
in a way where we're not creating a massive cliff and dump at some point.
So we're really meticulous with who and how we bring people on,
but also like how we foster the community.
So if you guys see like Camel all over the timeline, it's for, you know,
those kinds of reasons, right?
Like we want to like curate a strong community,
reward them in the right way that creates like stickiness retention,
but also like when you have stickiness and retention and think that leads next
is organic growth.
And that's
already what we're seeing with like abstract like after isn't like doing crazy paid marketing anyway
um and i know finn is the head of marketing but like i just haven't seen them do like anything
like in terms of like making hard shows out of a bunch of like areas yet the ecosystem is growing
really organically and that that stems from a foundation.
And usually that foundation is a strong community.
And I think there's so much alignment with the thesis of how we see the space and how we see where Web3 should be.
And so for us, Abstract and Sugar Time was, I think, a no-brainer.
I agree. That was beautifully put.
That was a lot of big words. Wait, you guys said a lot of words
that I don't think I even know how to spell, but I do see Dyla's hand up. So Dyla, what is up, buddy?
Yeah, I wanted to take a second to point out some really strong parallels that I've seen
in both Abstract and Sugartown because obviously being on the Abstract team and being a Sugartown
holder for quite a while.
One thing that I enjoy about both products and the community is the genuine excitement and belief in the product.
You're going to see it on the abstract side.
If you don't see the enthusiasm of our team and their posts,
if you don't see like Michael Strait geeking out and Cycar Strait geeking out over what they're building,
then you're crazy.
Same with the Sugartown team.
There is such conviction in what they're building and such excitement. And it's people who have been rooted in the space for a while. I was onboarded into Abstract by Finn,
who I've known for frigging ever. And I've known Camel since way before Sugartown. So it feels
good to be a part of things with people you've seen evolve in the space, grow in the space, lead with that same consistency in conviction and character.
And I think that Web3 really, really got exhausted by the meme coin wave.
It was PVP.
It was difficult to even trust any chat.
It became really unpleasant at times to be in Web3.
I lost my enthusiasm for Web3. And I'm
like, what am I doing here? I came here for culture, for art, for community, for fun. And
this is not fucking fun. But I think that Abstract kind of became a catalyst to reintroduce that OG
community vibe that we've been longing for. And when Finn had mentioned that bell curve, you know,
like us kind of starting out together in something new, there's something so important about that
moment where everybody is kind of starting at the base level and learning something together.
And we're still at that. And we're still kind of like the newness of it is exciting. And what can
we do and what the potential for Abstract and Sugartown and Coors is that we get the opportunity to shape that into the kind of community vibe that we've been missing for this long.
I think we've gotten rid of a lot of the bad actors, the people that were here for nefarious reasons.
God knows the fucking celebrities that were ready to extract are already gone.
They don't give a shit about us anymore.
So whoever's left here is really like,
I just want to be here. I just want to cook. I want to connect with people who are here for
the right reasons and just keep moving in that direction. And I mean, it all falls under one
big green happy umbrella. So I can't complain. I can't complain either. Well, I'm sure I could.
I'm really good at complaining about stuff. You can ask Tommy. But you know, honestly,
like abstract just kind of feels like home. Like, you know, honestly, like, abstract just kind of feels like home.
Like, you know, people ask me why abstract all the time.
Like, me personally.
I'm just like, it just makes sense.
It just feels right, you know.
Not to go on another personal tangent about me and Finn.
But I've known Finn for, like, four or five years at this point.
Who knows how long.
But, like, we've always just wanted to do, like, cool shit together.
Because, like, we – Finn's a great guy.
You know, all jokes aside. So is Raj,
I guess I should throw that out there.
And we've just always wanted to do some cool shit together.
And like abstract just feels like the home of great people doing cool shit
together.
Like the amount of founders that we can lean on inside of abstract that have
been supportive, the amount of creators, it's the same thing so you know
it just it feels right like there's no I don't need to say a lot of big words that I can't spell
like it just feels right and like I want to ask like you know Eli you've been a little quiet down
there for a little bit why does abstract feel like home to you I'm sorry yeah I'm actually at the gym. That's why I'm not much. Um, honestly, I was kind of apprehensive to it. Um, Finn had called me like months ago, uh, kind of talked to me about this being the next job that he wanted to take. And I still wasn't sold on it. Partly because again, like I had seen blasts. I'd seen'd seen other chains um then i took a dive in it
like i'd say in january or so and i started playing games started having fun and i just
kind of realized like instinctively i was spending my time here without thinking about farming stuff
right i was playing games i i wasn't streaming yet but i was tipping i was chatting and it just felt
like something special something we'd seen other platforms try to do uh especially with the native
streaming stuff and they had never made it work and then it just kind of clicked that you know what
the abstract team and kind of coincidingly i know they're not the same team but the the igloo pudgy
team they've always been great at building community and getting people to gather more like minds share.
And it just felt like abstract finally, I don't want to say solved that problem, but it really feels like they have.
And they've found a way to make things gather.
Obviously, things are going to be different once, you know, this apparent who knows TGE thing kind of happens um seeing if it sticks but i think this
is probably the first time i felt like after whatever that that initial incentive drops
that people actually stick around and so yeah i just kind of i realized i'm already spending so
much of my time on this chain uh i i'm having fun with the community i might as well dive deep and
shout out to clemente shout out to CO beast they kind of you know Finn brought
up last before but they kind of paved the way for me uh with blast they showed me like you know you
can dive all the way in on a specific niche and a specific chain and uh kind of be a big fish in a
small pond and so that's kind of what drew me I saw I noticed the people here were great had fun
doing it and so far it's uh it's proven to be valuable and, and not just, you know,
growing my brand, but also just valuable in the relationships that I've built.
And, uh, especially the projects that I've been building here.
I think these have been like awesome games that I know we've talked a lot on
the timeline about a lot of these things kind of feel like gamble games, but I
think people are really overlooking some of the awesome talent that's been here building and the stuff that's yet to come.
I love that. That was beautiful.
But unfortunately, Eli, this is not an abstract shill space because this is a core shill space.
So Finn, just slide me the money.
You guys had, you know, your 10 minutes and like you have my wallet address already.
But no, all jokes aside, love the love abstract that's why we're building here it's so refreshing to see how
everybody thinks it is home because it is home i love all the games i spend as much time as i can
using other products because i just genuinely love them i do have some breaking news somebody
play the air horn man your hand is up i see. I'm ignoring it because I need to say this thing before I
forget about it. Basically, breaking news. Thank you. That was beautiful. Breaking news.
For everybody in the audience, I know the only reason you are here is because of the course.
It's not because of anybody on the panel. It's because of course. And with that, we will be
giving multiple whitelist spots.
I believe the number is three and a free mint to people in the audience.
All you have to do to get the free mint, one lucky person, just quote, retweet the room.
We'll pick a winner afterwards.
If you want the whitelist spots, because I know we have a couple left to give.
They're going like hotcakes.
Everybody wants them.
Drop a comment in the comments.
Make my life easier.
Just say, I love Sugartown.
Camel's the best.
I hate Raj and then your wallet.
And we will get on the whitelist giveaway as well.
But no, everybody, that is so beautiful.
We've been talking about incentivization and ecosystem, but way more importantly, fun.
And I think that is something that is beautiful about both abstract and our eco.
So I'm going to throw it to Tommy, once again, the co founder of sugar time to talk about
a little bit about how our ecosystem plans to reward the players.
Yeah. Yeah, before I even jump into the rewards ecosystem, Ako, I think we want to give the audience something.
So why don't you maybe like share some context and details there
before we hop into this rewards topic?
Guys, you can tell when Tommy is multitasking and actually working
because he does this thing where his brain like skims
and he seems to miss things that literally just happened but yes
as camel said if you are interested in the freeman or the whitelist quote retweet the space comment
under the space run it up guys let's see some comments let's see some quote retweets but tommy
the ball is in your court
all right um if you guys don't see me over the timeline, it's because I have to manage these two.
And also, I guess I got to work a decent amount.
But I think when it comes to rewards, we have a really similar thesis to the AppCheck team.
And it's something that, to be honest with you guys, sometimes against what everyone
wants in Web3,
which is something long-term, something long-term,
something sustainable, and something that rewards people
and orders and the community,
not just like immediately, but over time.
And it's something that, you know, like,
I think everyone expects major, huge, like one day airdrop
and then, you know, dump and move on to the next thing like that's
part of the problem with this space that our attention span is so short we just move on
so quickly from like one project to the next project and i think it's a problem i think it
was one of the reasons why we got to massive growth in 21 and 22 and a another reason why
we've declined in growth like massively because
of the same exact reasons everyone came in for that really quick like big pump and everyone
left because they got wrecked and so you know what we're trying to build with the rewards
ecosystem um and especially around the cores is how do we create something that rewards
people short term and long term so we are approaching it in two different ways but those two different ways are given
like ownership and power back to the holder so we have active gameplay and
then we have passive gameplay and so you get rewarded for both if you decide to
participate in the active gameplay you get rewarded for that because you love
games if you don't have time and you want to go extremely passive then you
could stake use your energy you know whatever have time and you want to go extremely passive, then you could stake,
use your energy, you know, wherever you want and earn passively. And so I think empowering the
holders, the community and the owners to decide how they want to get rewarded, I think is really
powerful. And the second thing that does is that, you know, we do force action, like you have to
participate in the ecosystem in some way. Like, look, I just like
everyone else love sitting and doing nothing and getting unlimited free air drops. Um, but that's
not how we create a strong community. And that's not how you create a strong project either. So we
want people that come into our ecosystem that like loves what we have, loves what we do and love
being on like the whole abstract chain as well. Uh build the rewards that way and we have a pretty like big stack of rewards that we want to
be able to like reward people with all leading into like exactly one big ecosystem so that's
kind of like the the short tldr um feel free to you know let me know if i've missed anything
uh or if the audience even has questions you always feel free to jump up and I will have a Q&A session later too.
We will most certainly have a Q&A session.
Tommy, you said a lot of things and they were all really helpful.
And, you know, I think yesterday,
one thing that got posted was the Sugartown reward stack.
I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about that specifically maybe how that looks maybe you know how users um will be playing and how they will be
winning yeah so you know you have like the different ways to get rewards different ways to
play um we do believe in like a healthy competition And so we want to create like an ecosystem where you're playing,
you're competing, you're staking.
You may even still compete in that way to do like leaderboard systems,
but then you get rewarded.
And so the rewards comes in like two paths.
There's a on-chain type of reward that we give holders.
That's going to be like a myriad of things. It could be
points within the Sugarground ecosystem. We also have a treasury of like auras that we have still,
for those who don't know, we still have about 3,000, a little over 3,000 auras in our treasury
met as rewards for our holders. And then we have the on-chain like jackpots that we want to like
build as well.
We do believe that this is a way to not just give holders something short-term,
but something for them to play against long-term.
And so playing a game, staking, making actions on-chain
gets you short-term rewards.
The jackpot is this longer, bigger reward
that you can play against and up to,
just based on your participation.
And that is the participation reward that leads to something bigger.
And then obviously being inside the abstract ecosystem, you're constantly earning
abstract XP just for using the chain.
And I think that's what we love about the abstract team.
Like they want you to just use the chain.
Like that's really it.
So us as a game team and a content team, what we want to do is facilitate that. How do we create a lot of different ways for you guys to use the chain like that's really it so us as a game team and a content team what we want to do is facilitate that how do we create a lot of different ways for you guys to use the chain how do we create
a lot of different ways for you to have fun and experience like what you want to experience and
then all of these things the entire ecosystem at least in sugar town leads up to one thing in our
graphic and that is our win token our win token I think we could maybe segment some time later to talk a little
more about like that vision. But ultimately, our win token is not just like, great, you know,
it's there, it's done, it's GG. No, it's like basically the next chapter, next start of the
whole ecosystem, because we do have plans for how we want to see it, but to get facilitated,
and how that's going to help us like be a catalyst for web two onboarding
and massive growth long-term as well. Absolute banger answer once again from Tommy. We are super
excited for our ecosystem token. We can absolutely dive into that more, but I just want to send a
quick reminder, guys, we are doing a giveaway. If you're interested in a free core, quote,
retweet the space. If you're interested in core's whitelist, comment
underneath. We'll be doing the raffle for the
free core shortly. But I did
see Marianne had her hand up, so I wanted to
throw it her direction in case she has anything
to add.
I'm just gonna, I just feel like
this, um, this would be super
interesting for people with a
short attention span so and it's cool to clip even a space so either a call camel or tommy
whoever wants whoever wants to take that if you were to just explain in literally only one sentence
explain in literally only one sentence cores and the token in literally one sentence the difference
what how amazing it will be what benefit what what how it will benefit everybody
in exactly one sentence how would you explain that for everybody in web3 with with a diabolically
short attention span that's literally my job description. I think that is, you know,
what I've made my career out of
just making one-liners that sound intuitive.
I've literally wrote it down somewhere
and now I'm completely blanking.
So hold on, let me pull up.
I have a document.
It is called Master Copy Doc.
And that is where I write down
all of my banger one-liners.
I'm literally just stalling
while this thing loads,
a couple more words, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
That made my question feel super smart, Camel.
Thank you so much for validating me.
Here is my one-liner.
Talk about sugar time.
Talk about course.
Talk about everything in our ecosystem.
It even touches on abstract because why the hell not?
So here it is.
Everybody, get ready.
Get your applause ready. Get everything ready So here it is. Everybody, get ready. Get your applause ready.
Get everything ready.
Here it is.
The games you grew up playing, now with higher stakes than ever, powered by Sugartown, powered by Coors, powered by Abstract.
Boom.
Let's get some applause.
Finn, tell me how beautiful that was.
It was gorgeous.
I don't think I could have asked for anything better
than that yeah um thank you that was beautiful uh great work camel um now i'm completely thrown
off wow that was a really good question um so anyways um while i get my druthers pulled back
together i'm just gonna throw it over to my wonderful co-host a call so i can just like
pull myself back together and compose myself well that, that was amazing, Camel, and I'm always
impressed by your ability to come up with things on the fly, but I do see we have another hand
raised. So, Luke, what is up? Hey, I actually have a question that I've thought about for,
like, I thought about it a few times recently. And then when you mentioned a 3000,
uh, or a strategic reserve, it came back to mind. Um, so Sugar Town was a free mint, right? Quite
a while ago. That is correct. I mean, for a free mint to have the foresight planning, whatever
term you would use to hold back, I don know if you held back 3 000 at the time or
they were they were acquired on the secondary market but i'm obviously like as things have
unfolded i've came to assume well i guess not obviously i'm assuming but i've came to assume
and believe that there was a bit of a plan for the auras all along. I would imagine I wasn't involved until recently
when Camel shilled it in every orifice of my body
through group chats and whatnot.
But yeah, I was going to just ask kind of like how it started.
And I don't know if that's too far back for everyone.
And you're like, go read a book, Luke, and learn yourself.
I will do the abridged version just for you, Luke,
because you said some nice
stuff about us so sugar town auras minted at zynga like one of the largest games companies
in the world as a freeman in august or september of 2023 i don't remember which month it was one
of the two um we held back i believe it was like 4 000 auras to give out as rewards across our
ecosystem and since then,
we've given out, I don't know how many, a lot across game events, across community activations,
all sorts of different activations and ways to onboard folks. And what was interesting is we
found that the reward entities are some of the least transacted ones because people like just
want to feel rewarded. It's almost like a trophy. you don't sell your trophies that you earn it's just not something that people do and so um where i was going with that was then i was going to defer
to tommy to talk about you know the vision how we got from there to now
all right um so many of these topics are like unpl, so I have to wing most of these answers.
But the original vision of Sugartown was always to really understand Web3.
That was our thesis coming in.
And I say that because, for those who don't know my background, I've been building games for a long time, over a decade.
In mobile gaming, was at Zynga back in the Farmville one franchise era in 2012 wrapped
the IPO and so you know I think in games we never really think about like product market fit or like
what works we just build a really cool game and try to find the audience for that game like it's
really formulaic it's really scientific and it's not easier to in my opinion. Web3, we don't know.
Like, I don't think anyone has actually ever cracked
even to this day, like what Web3 consumer product
really is like from a single sentence description.
And so coming into Sugartown's first launch,
what we want to do was like understand
what people wanted.
And so we used a bigger approach
where we launched multiple games
instead of like a single game
to kind of see what works.
For example, our first game was called NGMI.
It was extremely hard.
We thought, well, DGNs and Web3 people love pain.
And so why not make the game extremely tough for them?
No one liked that game as much
because it was too hard.
And then we launched a second game called All-Star Heights,
a lot more casual, a lot easier.
That became a beloved game because it was easy, chill, and good to play.
So we were learning a lot.
And so Sugar Town's entire thesis is in a different way data collection
and figuring out what people want and is servicing the community that way.
After, I think, seeing the space move from like how it was in
2023 until now, we've identified a really clear vision, a really clear path that we formulated
last year, which is something called high stakes gaming. It is a blend between real meaningful,
fun gameplay with a little bit of risk and staking. Staking that in the context of like smart
contracts, but staking in terms of like putting something at stake. And so that creates this new
kind of realm for people to like really have like their dopamine chase while having something really
fun to play. And so that's like where we want to take Sugar Town. And I think this isn't just
applicable to Web 2.3. This is also where we want to say web two um
audiences as well in web two games are getting really boring for those who play games every day
you kind of hear this like we play the same game we see the same games launching something new
when we like i saw like marvel rivals i'm like great that's amazing but like it's clearly marvel
plus overwatch right like there's really never new innovation. It's like, let me take this past game and then reskin it,
or let me take something else and make it, like, a little different.
And so our angle is, like, well, how do we, like, really disrupt gaming?
And for us, it's this layer of, like, high risk
and this layer of, like, wagering and betting.
And I think it's going to be relevant for both Web 3 and Web 2,
and it's going to scale really both web 3 and web 2 and it's gonna scale really well i think so too that was very beautifully beautifully beautifully put thank
you so much tommy and so we have done a lot of table setting we've talked about the ego we've
talked about the past we're talking about the future a little bit but i think you know you
got to put some meat on the bones you know i think order to get to where we're going, we had to give a bit about the background first.
But I think the question remains,
what the hell is a core?
And why do I want one, Tommy?
Why do I want a core?
I think it's going to be back to me a couple of times.
Cores is our first step into, you know, step into the abstract
chain.
Um, you want the cores because one thing, one thing only, and that's really what we
all kind of want about three and it's rewards.
Um, I love games.
I play games every day.
Um, I love this space.
I mean, you know, obviously like trading and doing things every day, but web three is
really about rewards.
And so course is a rewards
generator and a team that's what we're like you know I think calling it but it
has a dual purpose like if you want rewards get a core and the question then
becomes like well how do I get rewarded and that's just literally having fun
using the chain and playing games and so we want to make this a really meaningful
experience where being a holder gets you access to fun experiences and you get rewarded for fun experiences. That's literally
it. For those who are really busy, we'll create a way for you to get rewarded even if you
don't participate on the gameplay side and that's do passive staking. So ultimately,
if you want to get rewarded, get a core. That's kind of the one, too.
I love that.
I love that.
Thanks, Tommy.
Thanks, Tommy.
Eichol, do you have anything to add?
I think Tommy explains things really well, but sometimes I think he's just, he's so product
and technical.
So I think that everyone's laughing.
But like, Tommy, Tommy, you're the best.
We love it.
I think for people that are in Web3, though, the thing to understand about cores is that if you like playing games, if you like staking and you like getting rewarded for the time that you spent staked for the time you spent playing games, you're going to want a core.
And that is just, you know, the end of it.
And they're stackable.
So more cores, more rewards.
They play in really well with the rest of our ecosystem.
We'll share more on that later,
but it's super exciting.
I agree. I agree.
I think it's super exciting.
I think to add a personal little tangent here,
because I guess I'm working,
I can't just play the role of host
and pretend I don't know anything.
To onboard the world to Web3 games,
first you have to onboard Web3 to Web3 games.
And you don't do that by massive AAA titles
as much as I love them.
You do that by games that people just want to play,
by games that are fun, that games are replayable,
that games, even if you lose, you still feel like you're winning. You feel advantageous. You feel
the need to come back and play more. And that's what Sheraton's building. That's what Coors
is a massive part of. And I'm so excited to be building the future of gaming here on Abstract,
here with some of my best friends in this space. And I'm just going to be more the future of gaming here on abstract here with some of my best friends in
this space um and i'm just gonna be more excited about it i know we're at the top of the hour i
know some people may or may not have to go um i'm here i'm down to keep running my mouth i know we
have more time slotted to talk about a lot of stuff so that was a really bad pivot towards my next section, which is not one that I planned, but one I want to ask anyways, which is Tommy Ako.
Is there any alpha that you guys can share for us?
Well, I thought that jackpot was alpha, but apparently that has already been shared.
So I'm going to throw it to Tommy.
I know we've got some supercharged folks listening.
Guys, I see you in the chats. I will say I'm obviously live on stage, so it's not super easy throw it to Tommy. I know we've got some supercharged folks listening. Guys, I see you in the chats.
I will say I'm obviously live on stage,
so it's not super easy for me to reply when we're up here.
But Tommy, if you have Alpha that we haven't shared
that we could share with supercharged, that would be awesome.
I was not ready for this.
I think on the alpha side,
we have some really big...
I think Tommy got rubbed. Okay, I thought it was me, bro.
Oh, I thought it was me, too. Wait, Tommy's
All right, guys. Tommy got
rubbed. Oh, no. That means I need
to pick and choose the alpha
that is spilled.
So, this week is a very
big week inside of Sugar Time.
I have at least
two, but probably more, because i'm not going to
commit to a number very major marketing beats one has already been leaked by finn which is the
founders poker tournament um finn i never told you this but you tweeted it before it was announced
um so stay tuned for more information how the fuck did i what did i tweet
you tweeted it was like a list of stuff happening on abstract it was like two redacted things it
was our thing yeah my bad dude i can't be held accountable for what i tweet yeah and that's why
i didn't call you out like i know how i guess this actually this is kind of like a good chance
to know now that like sometimes i'd just be tweeting you know like sometimes
you know i don't i don't get approval for what i say so maybe there's maybe there's alpha i don't
even know i'm tweeting yes uh definitely but no i mean for the people who are here is that one of
one of the redacted announcements got pushed next week but the other one did not
well that's exciting i can't wait for the redacted abstract
announcements i can't wait for the redacted sugar time announcements one of which got front ran by
finn and it's okay because i love him for it we're still trying to get tommy on here up here he is
tommy alpha give the people what they want we're back okay yeah this face is rugging pretty hard like I I
heard Finn talk a little about some alpha that he was sharing too and then
the whole thing changed did we talk about Finn's alpha yes we talked about
things okay yeah all right my alpha was that one of my alpha was next week and
there was still this week so it wasn't really that much of Alpha. Okay.
I think where I left off, I'm assuming,
we have a couple of, I think, really big announcements
in the next couple of days.
Stay tuned, keep your notifications on
to the Sugartown brand account.
You know, one thing that we really want to focus on
is, I think, community onboarding.
And cores and auras
will always get access to the full ecosystem but the we're also gonna think
about like how do we onboard like the other communities within the abstract
ecosystem and then also how do we onboard people like outside that
ecosystem to be interested to join like this project and also like the chain.
And so one outfit that we're going to, I think, share probably in real time this Friday, we
will do like, I guess, two outfit pieces.
One is that we're going to announce a really big poker tournament with a few key leaders
within like the abstract chain and space.
There's gonna be a big tournament where we're all gonna compete against each other.
We'll make that announcement today and it's gonna be really fun. There's gonna be a prize pool and
so if that community or that team wins the full prize pool, they'll get to distribute that however
they want to their community. So stay tuned for that announcement coming today. And then on the actual day of the tournament, we'll reveal a little bit about
like how we're going to grow the ecosystem and that is through airdrops.
Airdrops are really powerful to like onboard a lot of people.
But when you think airdrops, you're always thinking like tokens, like, you know,
in a coin perspective, we're kind of taking a different approach.
We want to give folks access to the game and product.
And so we're going to show folks how that's going to work on Friday.
This is all going to happen before Mint.
We're going to showcase, you know, a handful of things.
But we're going to show the community and the space, like,
we are trying to build this the right way,
meaning that we're going to grow our ecosystem, bring in a lot of demand for both like the project and abstract.
Meanwhile, creating value for the current holders.
Core holders will always like get full access, even though we're going to be onboarding people.
Auras mixed with cores will have a full stack of rewards, but we're going to do that in a way while growing and the ecosystem past the
10 K past the 20 K and eventually past like the hundreds and thousands of
people as well.
Yeah. I mean, I think Tommy,
you put out a tweet that said we're going to have the biggest poker tournament
ever. So, you know, I can't wait to get there.
It's going to happen.
And I can't wait to set a world record on abstract chain hashtag ad for
both sugar town and of course but um we have a couple little more things to run and then we will
give you guys your freedom i will unshackle you from the bounce that is this space that we already
got rubbed on once but you know just make sure to follow everybody in the room make sure to turn
your notice on for the brand account because there's a lot of cool shit being announced this week.
There's some shit that Tommy didn't even talk about being announced this week, which is even more exciting because that means there's some more stuff that we can talk about later.
But we got a couple things left to talk about.
First one, Coors free mint giveaway that we talked about before.
I'm going to throw it over to A-Call.
All right, you guys. As we told you, we are running a free mint giveaway for our Coors,
and I am going to raffle the winner. Give me a sec. Let me pop this link in here.
And if you guys want to enter, I'll give you literally 10 more seconds to quote retreat the space tell people that you're excited about cores and then i will submit this raffle and we will have our free mint winner super exciting
let's go and if while she is running that if you have any questions for i have a quick thing
okay yep let's hear your quick thing. A quick chill. Let me finish.
I have to interrupt because it just happened. But if you'd like to go and get your wrecked abstract apple drinks,
they just went live.
That's exciting.
That's super exciting.
Another great team on abstract.
Consumer products.
Yeah.
Abstract.
They're actually very delicious.
I drank like 20 something of them in Dubai.
That sounds delicious. And like, honestly. I think you're going to something of them in Dubai. That sounds delicious.
And like, honestly,
I think you're going to drink more than me though.
That's crazy.
Honestly, it's just like so refreshing to have an ecosystem
where there's so much dope shit being chilled
that like you don't feel siloed
and there's just always something new to do,
which is like what makes abstract so beautiful.
Now, if you have any questions for anybody on the stage except for raj or you
want to know more about course you have a specific question you want some alpha drop them in the
comments request to go on the stage we will get to you hey cole i see that you have a question
i have the winner not a question i have the winner of our free cores mint thank you guys for quote
retweeting the space thank you all for participating the winner is our free Coors Mint. Thank you guys for quote retweeting the space. Thank you all for participating.
The winner is Big Nick at Empath Opinion.
Congratulations, Big Nick.
The core is yours.
I will reach out to you for your wallet address.
So expect to see me in your DM shortly.
The core is yours is such a banger slogan.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, we're stealing that.
We're stealing that one.
I just made that up.
Thanks.
That was beautiful.
So now we are in the questions and answers portion
of our afternoon or morning or evening,
depending on where you live.
Tommy, we got a question for you.
People wanted to hear from you,
which was in the audience, somebody asked,
can you be a little bit more specific
on how some of these rewards look?
Like, you know, we know you have a tendency
to talk high level of vague,
but like, let's keep it simple.
Let's keep it stupid.
You play the game, you have a fun time,
but also you get a little bit of something on the side.
Can you be specific?
Yeah, I, okay.
We have something within the ecosystem called points
and the point system will lead,
if you look at our pin tweet here,
the rewards ecosystem with the reward stack,
everything leads to one thing, one
thing only.
And so really, I think there's a lot of alpha in the tweet that we posted yesterday.
Every action, everything we do, points, on-chain rewards, jackpots, prizes, leads up to one
thing, and that's going to be our ecosystem-like token.
In terms of specifics on on-chain rewards rewards and prizes we're also working with partners and
sponsors to bring real rewards like on-chain to the community so why can't be specific about that
because we don't you know haven't shared that i'll give an example so for the poker tournament on
friday every participant is going to contribute something to the prize pool.
And that prize pool gets disseminated to their communities.
And those are like NFTs, whitelist bots,
like very high mints, for example.
And that's the kind of like reward for like sponsors that we want to bring in,
in addition to like in the USDC types of rewards as well.
So that's like the on-chain rewards.
And in jackpots that's really
like the more participation you have think cambria with their like loot um uh rush and how they did
that and you know i think big shout out to them and getting over a million bucks on um that jackpot
but like you know we're looking to do that as well so i think what we want to do is like reward
people short-term sponsor rewards sponsors usdc kind of area, but also bring in like a continuous reward,
like the point system to lead to our big ecosystem like token.
That was beautiful. Is that like specific enough? I know I always like
Yeah, I think you did it for the people that wanted to
hear the specifics. I think you did a really good job. You know, you got one gold star. I'll feed
you some chicken nuggets later. Sarwar, I don't know if I pronounced your name right. I'm sorry
if I butchered it, but I see that you have joined the question and answer portion of this space.
I hope it is for a question and you get an answer that you are looking for.
I hope it is for a question and you get an answer that you are looking for.
Thanks for the chance.
My question is, is this course the only way to play games?
And is it tradable up to the mind?
Yep. So that is a great question.
Yep, so that is a great question.
A. Cole, you know, product, community, lead.
I feel like you are an amazing person to answer this question.
Oh, wait, I'm so sorry.
I was answering a DM about the giveaway.
Could you repeat the question for me?
The question is, are cores the only way to play the games?
And will trading be live after the mint? No, cores aren't the only way to play the games? And will trading be live after the meet?
No, cores aren't the only way to play the games.
So I see a lot of our auras in the audience.
Guys, thank you for coming through.
We have our VVIP players, our auras.
If you have an aura, you will, of course, still be able to play the games.
Cores will unlock some extra rewards paths.
And this is an alpha because we've already hinted at it to our community a few
times. But if you have a core and an aura, you're unlocking an extra special rewards path.
And then Camel, what was the second half of the question?
Will cores be tradable after mint? And the answer is yes. I guess I can take that. We have some
soul bound parts of our ecosystem. We have some tradable parts of our ecosystem. Cores are tradable after mint.
But a guy like me, a guy like me is going to stack cores because I can stack rewards inside the ego.
I don't know.
I think that might have been alpha.
Did I just fuck up?
I hope not.
I don't know if I did.
I'm getting a message from Tommy that we need to have a long call later.
I think I might be in trouble, guys.
That being said, guys, if you have questions and you don't
ask them, we cannot answer them. So keep them coming. I see some people requesting on the
stage. I see some more audience questions going in the timeline. If you have a question, you don't
want to join the stage, you want to ask it, just reply in the space and I will do my best and
hopefully see it. Arulius, I've known you for years, buddy. What is up? Afternoon, morning.
I've known you for years, buddy. What is up? Afternoon, morning. Hope everyone's well.
My question is, since the takeover, how have you found it in terms of being able to push the marketing in the direction in which you wanted to go?
And also, have you found that working together as one team uh independently has been more
beneficial yeah that that is a great question and since you said marketing specifically i do feel
like i can answer this one when we were at z um it was great we had a lot of great resources we
had a lot of access to a lot of different people but the core team that you see here now is the
same core team that you saw at zynga. And when you're at a
publicly traded company, for those that don't know, Zynga is still owned by Take-Two. That's
the same company that owns GTA with Rockstar and some other titles as well. You have a lot of
outside parties, a lot of red tape kind of watching what you're doing. There's a ton of
lawyers in the company. And obviously, with the past administration, there was a lot more regulation and scrutiny on crypto
than we have now. And with that, there was a lot of kind of, I'm going to say scrutiny again,
and a lot of like focus on each and every word that you're putting out there, like code in the
smart contracts and everything like that in order to protect the best interests of the company.
And so when we're building Sugartown and we've been building Sugartown, the direction that
we want to build it, a lot of times we would be kind of caught in the corporate machine,
which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
But when you work in crypto, you need to execute fast.
You need to be able to pivot with a moment's notice.
And it just kind of came to a point where we kind of mutually decided
that in the best interest of our community and our longevity as a project,
it was best to spin it independent with the same exact team that we have today.
Tommy, I don't know if you want to add to that at all,
but I think I did a good job answering it.
No, you did a great job answering it, actually.
It was also a great question.
I think our team dynamic has gotten, I think, even better.
We've worked together for a long time now.
I think for when you think about development
and building something,
the one thing that you usually look at
for especially like new teams is how they gel
and how they work together.
And that's why every high profile game in Web2
typically comes from a team that's been together before.
For those who use a quick share, if you guys know the company called Supercell, they made Clash of Clans, Clash Royale, those kind of games.
They were based out of the Nordics.
And when they started their company, a lot of folks don't know this, they actually were working together before for about 10 years at a company called uh digital chocolate after digital chocolate they then started supercell
and so when and while it looks like supercell kind of like came in a success out of nowhere
it was like a long time thing coming right in our space we haven't even existed for 10 years like
web3 gaming web3 like consumer type of of products have been around for now maybe four years, if you count 21, 22.
And our team's been together for about three years now.
And so we have really built a dynamic where we understand shorthand how to work with each
other.
And I think something that, just to share with the community, we also yell at each other, like pretty often. Like I think yesterday, Akal and I were on like a two hour call where she was probably yelling at me for like a good hour or so. But that's actually a good thing because that's really like how close we are and how effective without some of the annoying each other, then it means that you don't really have a real relationship with your team.
And so our team really is built around that type of culture.
And the one thing that we all do and want is the success of Sugar Town and the project.
Like we care, we want to be here.
We're like building for the future, but we would not be here if we didn't want to be.
Like the choice was made
to like continue building web 3 and we're going to continue making that choice every single day
until we see bigger and bigger successes i also think i would like sad it's really funny because
the things that we like argue with each other about really stem from a place of us caring about
the project and about our community and what we're building and wanting to do things right and better. So that makes me super excited. And honestly, like when it comes
to working dynamics, it's just, it's really easy to work with people that you like who also want
to build something cool. The hard part is that you all care so much. So you're always like, wait,
like, this is a really good idea I have, like, this is how I think it could work um but that's how we produce better products and how we produce better
experiences because there is that give and take of people going back and forth
I agree that was really beautiful wow it brought a tear to my eye um anyways hey Cole I know you
said that you want to run your other whitelist giveaway.
So A. Cole, why don't you do that?
If you guys have any last minute questions, throw up your hand, drop them in the comments.
And I will also, before I let A. Cole come off mute, just want to especially thank every single person that came here as a guest here today.
We had some of my favorite people in crypto uh come so many
great people and you know i think you guys are gonna love what's coming next i will spill one
more alpha tommy didn't even touch on it at all he might slot my hand later but i don't really care
what's he gonna do fire me which is we're gonna be onboarding some pretty freaking cool people
to the ecosystem here really soon.
That sounds like really cliche and high level,
but once you see it, you'll understand what I'm putting, you'll pick up what I'm putting down.
So yeah, that's exciting.
Hey, Cole, over to you.
All right, guys, I have the winners of our whitelist giveaway.
The whitelist winners were people that commented under the space.
So thank you guys for doing that and for replying.
Also, thanks for being here.
You guys rock. Three winners. We've got Piffs Peak. We've got 0xNicCrypto. 0xOx? I think it's
zero. And then we've got BigFax underscore Mexi. So you guys keep an eye out for a damn for me.
I will grab your wallets, preferably AGW or the Coors Mint.
preferably AGW or the Coorsman. Wow beautiful beautiful thank you so much
thank oh Aurelius I see another question let's go your hand is raised let's go
let's hear it. So just yeah congratulations to the person who won that
but just on the point that you made a moment ago in in the instances where
you've got several different individuals,
you know, they might have collectively all great ideas.
Who gets the final say?
Is there someone in the team that ultimately has to decide
and take that forward?
Or is it something in which, I don't know,
is it, for lack of a better word,
some sort of democratic process in which you vote?
Let me tell you, it's not a democracy by any means.
I think everybody kind of owns
their own verticals.
I'm Campbell.
I'm the marketing lead.
So, you know, more often than not,
I do have the final say
as things relate to marketing,
much like Enkel has the final say
as things that relate to community.
Tommy, obviously our boss,
if he wants to overrule us, he can.
But more often than not,
he trusts the people that run their verticals
to run their vertical.
He helps push us in the right direction.
But there's a lot of trust with everybody on this team.
And when you have to execute so fast
and at such a high level,
it's really beautiful that Tommy
kind of just blindly has faith in us
to do what's right.
And I do see some more hands. That was such a great question. I want to throw it to one of my favorite people, somebody I've known for years. Whoa, what's going on? Hey, guys, did you know
Quartz is minting soon? And you can go pick up a Sugartown Aura right now on magic eden um reduced fees 0.5 marketplace fees so
make sure you guys could do that uh hey camel hey tommy hey april hey everyone
yes you can get a sugar town aura right now on magic finn she didn't say hey to you
i know that's why i was saying hi yeah well i i actually i know this is like a quote
unquote professional space but i actually thought after that intro that was so nice you were just
gonna juke me out and call on someone else um every once in a while saying nice things uh raj
was here earlier so he got like the butt of all the jokes so like you know have to be nice
eventually to somebody and you lucked out that raj was already here and he caught that but yeah auras on magic eden of course soon to be on magic eden and the blockchain just the
blockchain in general on abstract network my preferred network for making all my blockchain
transactions so also make sure you follow magic eden don't have enough nice things to say about
that team they've done amazing things for us in the past, and just really good friends to have.
Just, I do see your hand is up.
GM, GM, good afternoon to everyone.
I just have one question.
I just want to hear your take, guys.
Anyone can answer this question.
What is your take on longevity in Web3?
I think that's a beautiful question for my boss Tommy.
Yeah, longevity.
I guess there, I'm trying to think of like how to respond to this one.
Longevity, sustainability, I think durability, there's a lot of like,
different angles that they take. I think the space has not been able to be very successful,
candidly, with longevity. I think the space leans into short term wins, both from the
builders perspective and from like like the community perspective.
We would rather have like a dollar today
than like $10 like tomorrow, right?
Like that's just always how it is with this space.
And I think it is a collective effort.
It is a collective effort to kind of move that mentality
and shift that mentality like forward
and change the way we think.
And so really, I think what we want to do over at Sugartown is kind of contribute to
that next sentiment.
How do we create a culture within our own community and within our project to kind of
help lead that path into what something long-term and sustainable could be through our projects,
what something long-term and system could be through our projects, through our ecosystem.
through our ecosystem?
And that's also why we align with partners that also share that vision.
Obviously Abstract.
Abstract is building their ecosystem in a very similar and same way towards longevity,
towards onboarding people into Web2 with the vision of seeing the AGW creating a really
unique onboarding experience
with their wallet, right? Like, they're trying to do a lot of different way into things.
And I think we should applaud innovation like that. For us, it's not just the chain, but
it's like the communities as well. Like every project on abstract that we've talked to,
and you guys will see us talk to a lot of founders this Friday in the big tournament.
So like every project we've talked to has this like very shared i don't know like camaraderie of like we want to build something
together and we want to make sure like we're all aligned in that like path and and get to like a
future we had we hosted a no well we joined roach racing who hosted us um for a space like a couple
days ago and we were just talking about like products and games and, you know, how to build something fun
to get more people in.
And so like, that's the kind of like,
I think, I think path to real durability.
It's not really one person, one founder,
one project or anything like that.
It is a collective effort,
but everyone has to contribute.
And so for us, with Sugar Town, with Cores,
we want to contribute massively to that.
Wow. That was really well put. Thank you so much, Tommy. And thank you to everybody that joined
the room. I don't think there's any more questions. I don't think there's any more
comments. I don't think there's any more concerns. I think we can leave this with a big, giant
checkmark as the best space that has ever been run in the history of history.
The only thing that would have made it better is if Finn did not let Raj come.
And guys, that is a recurring joke.
Oh, God.
Dang it.
Somebody else joined to ask a question.
All right.
One last question and then no more questions.
But or a PFP privilege.
That's how it works.
Kyle.
I'm going to be answering this question, by the way.
So just advance.
Actually, my question was for you.
I wanted to come up for two reasons.
I wanted to say hi to my favorite sugar town.
K.O.L.
A. Cole.
And I wanted to ask you, Finn, where do you think you're going to land on the popularity
board on the rec tech games here today?
Oh, man.
So it's actually an interesting one.
We put we made the executive decision to put
me on there because i'm kind of the wild card right where it's the litmus test of how many of
the players are from our community how many are from rectex community um so i am expecting that
i actually fall in the middle uh or towards the end so that's what that's i i that's what i hope at least um so i'm very
interested uh i hope people like the game by the way i spent some time this morning
brainstorming some of the ideas for how we're gonna run it um and uh yeah i uh
i hope i land in the middle i think well i think, I think you've got SBF beat anyway, buddy. I did also just...
I've got SBF beat.
I think I have Gary Gensler's skeleton beat.
I don't have Luka beat.
I don't have CZ beat.
I don't think I have Anson beat.
Right?
So, like, that's what I'm saying.
Like, I think I'm middle.
You think Vitalik is your competition?
Is that what you're saying?
Oh, shit.
Vitalik's on there, too.
No, I don't think I beat Vitalik.
I think you beat Vitalik every day of the week and twice on Tuesday.
You're this generation's Vitalik. i'll be completely honest i did also just get an anonymous dm that
said uh please tell a cole to give me a chance i don't know who that might have been from
certainly no one on stage that's crazy it was probably luke it was definitely luke i think
it's like a guarantee that was luke yeah it it's 100%. The only person on stage that I would expect that from.
Yeah, but anyways, thank you so much.
Thank you, Luke. I'm about to mute you.
That's it, Luke. You're in trouble now.
Thank you to everybody for coming in, showing in, showing out.
I'm really excited for the Coorsmith coming soon.
Make sure you turn your noties on to the brand account.
I'm going to throw it last.
If anybody else has anything they want to say before i love this please speak now or forever hold your
peace love you camel well all right i was hoping like a call tommy finn maybe diala could say
something not like just like grunting yeah well i was gonna say thanks kyle for saying that i was your favorite kol on the sugar tongue team um that was really nice and
always makes me happy it's it's hard when you work with a super cool awesome kol like camel
you know but i think i'm okay too um but thank you guys thanks everyone for coming to listen
thank you all who are participating in coresors. It's happening so soon.
Minty Tales coming this week.
So stay tuned to our auras.
Thank you guys for coming out.
Listen, I know you've heard the same information so many times.
We appreciate you guys for being with us.
We appreciate you guys for rocking with us, playing our games.
And we are excited to reward you all.
So thank you guys for being here.
But Dyla, I see your hand is up.
Yeah, I just want to remind everybody to mint cores
because let's keep it real.
If not, Camel's just going to harass you
to buy them on secondary.
So it really makes sense for you to just go ahead
and mint them and front run all the people
that Camel's going to make buy on secondary anyway.
So, you know, work smarter, not harder, mint cores.
Yeah, if I could just piggyback on that,
I also would like to add, I think it'd be a good idea to mint course as well yeah i don't want to like beat a dead
horse um it's like not our not our vibe here at abstract but uh i would urge people to mint course
as well i'm gonna go ahead and use the covid marketing strategy if you don't mint course
then you're killing my grandmother i think that was a beautiful way to end it so i think that's why we rugged uh thank you everybody for showing in
showing out make sure you get your course make sure you show in show out to all the activations
we have this week and next it's going to be a spicy one um i love you all that seems like a
weird way to end it but i love you all good night
