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Rocket Science EP 3 🚀
Recorded: May 20, 2025 Duration: 1:55:27Space Recording
Short Summary
In the latest episode of 'Rocket Science,' the hosts engage with Mama Bear, discussing the importance of community, mental health, and the evolving landscape of Web3. The conversation highlights partnerships, growth trends, and the need for safe spaces in the crypto ecosystem.
Full Transcription
. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, hello, hello.
All astronauts and all listeners, welcome all to episode three of Rocket Science.
Today with a special guest, we're starting very soon, in five minutes.
So please retweet, tag a few people, let's make it big.
Tonight we have a very special guest,
no other than Mama Bear.
So we're starting very soon, in five minutes.
Let's retweet, let's get maximum amount of people
and a shout out to all of you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Houston, we have takeoff.
All they talk about is the network.
I've been putting time in my network.
It's my network.
It's my network.
It's my network.
It's my network.
It's my network.
It's my network. It's my network. It's my network. It's my network.
It's my network.
It's my network.
Ladies and gentlemen,
to all the listeners,
all the dreamers,
all the believers,
all the big-hearted people,
all the carers,
all the caregivers,
all the caretakers,
all the inspired,
all the needing to be inspired, all the lovers, all the caregivers, all the caretakers, all the inspired, all the needing to be inspired,
all the lovers, all the creators, all the businesses, all the individuals that are waiting to find themselves.
We'd like to welcome you listeners we can thank you more we can do this without you we
don't have a community
and is in fact
one of people in terms of
giving love and
just being as positive as
positive as possible
and in this space. Everybody that's experienced
Web3 has had ups and downs but everybody that's experienced Mama Bear has
experienced nothing but love and joy. She is a businesswoman, she is everybody's
special mama. So without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to welcome Mama Bear to our podcast.
Mama Bear, how are you?
I am good.
That was a hell of an entrance.
I like that.
I'm good.
I didn't know I was running late.
Papa hit me up.
He's like, they've already started.
I'm like, of course.
Only I would show up late.
It's good to be here.
How are you doing this day?
Incredible.
Doing absolutely amazing.
And you know what?
You're not late.
You just showed up exactly when you're needed.
You know, some people just don't turn up late.
When you bring such a positive, great vibe to a space, you can't be late. You just show up exactly when you need such a positive great vibe to a space you can't be like you just show up exactly
where when you need to be because a lot of the listeners and a lot of people that were going to
come on just you know weren't also ready so you just divine timing so we really appreciate you
but yeah doing doing really really good how was the how has the day treated you? That's the question I want to start with.
How has the day treated you?
It has been a good day.
I actually just went from another space to here.
I had a meeting earlier this morning.
So, you know, just doing our thing.
I'm trying to figure out how to create visual media.
I suck at that.
So all of you people out there who are creators
and artists in this space
really give yourself a pat on the back
because it is not easy
even with all these really cool templates
so yeah huge shout out to all of you guys
who make all of these amazing imagery
because it is not easy for people like me
yeah you know what
I love that you can just straight off the gate,
just be so vulnerable. And that's what makes you so real. And, you know, to everyone listening,
anyone that can give Mama Bear a handout, you know, teacher or even just make it for it,
give it time. This is your time. You know, this is is that was a call out to to you guys um so if you
didn't hear that i'm gonna say it again mama bear wants you guys to flutter with um images and you
know your creations so take this opportunity and and run with it absolutely run with it you know
i i really want to make this a little bit different um because we've had a few really, really exciting guests that have been just incredible and brought something really amazing to this space.
But I feel like speaking to you is something that's probably going to be more spiritual than most conversations that we have.
Than most conversations that we have and I think it's so needed in this space and I'd like to
And I think it's so needed in this space.
Start by asking you a really odd question, right? A really odd question is
How do you find yourself in this?
How do you find yourself in this space like how how does that start?
Damn you started off with a tough one bro um that's really interesting
because I still feel like I'm trying to figure out who the hell I am in this space
um something Rick was talking about the other day was imposter syndrome and I actually had
to look that up um I've heard of the term before but I think that when you're a creator or you're a speaker or whatever,
whatever a project, whatever it is that your journey is, you can sometimes feel like that's
not necessarily you. And I know for me, I have a difficult time because I do spaces every day,
right? Me and Papa Bear, presently present. And so we're just kind of here. We're the safe space for everybody.
But I still feel like sometimes like, why does somebody want to listen to me talk?
Why does somebody take time out of their day to come and show me kindness and respect?
And I think that my answer to that would be is what I put out is what i receive so i really make a very conscious effort to show others
kindness and respect no matter what your pfp is no matter what chain you're from no matter what
project you rock i don't give a shit um a person's a person a person yeah i i love that it You're so right, that imposter syndrome. Well, you know, often they say,
you know, having an imposter syndrome is actually a sign of having, you know, values and having a
sense of integrity. And I think anyone that's created anything, whether it's business and
when you want to bring so much to a space and you want to help people so much, it's so hard to stay level-headed when, unfortunately, there are a lot of people where the space is just a lot of bravado and a lot of trying to be the best and I'm the best and i'm the best and it's so easy to get caught up in our own our own hype
i guess you know so easy to get caught up in our own uh thoughts and you know illusions of grandeur
and i think the fact that you can say that you know from the get-go the idea of having imposter
syndrome um i think that's really big because the truth is i don't think you no one ever gets to the
point where they've got it figured out and that's the
beauty of it everybody in this space is trying to figure out and what you're saying about your space
trying to bring so much you know so much safe and safety to people comes with it comes with weight
but it also comes with knowing yourself right if you know there's something about you that is
you're still working on and being able to show that to people
that there's never going to be a journey because someone might look at you and say well you know
mom and bae's got it all figured out she's she's figured out the space she's built a great community
everybody knows who she is but yet there's still another level to go and there's still work to be
done on that so would you say that comes from your, you know, your business
background and, you know, what you do outside? Is that where it came from or, you know, how did
you move into that person? So I actually have no business background. I have always just been a mom
and I know that's a huge thing, right? Moms, we work our asses off. We wear many hats, but I've never had a business background. So I'm just unapologetically myself.
And I think that that's where it comes from. I've always been the safe space and I've always,
and we do, we, we create these types of things because maybe that's something that we never
received. So I want to be a safe place for somebody.
I want to be that landing pad that no matter what,
you're not going to receive that judgment. And I think in flip of that,
it's because that's something that I never received in life.
And I think we do that every day as humans.
Wow. You know, that's when you say about, uh,
never receiving it, never received that type of love and that type of safety.
Well, that's I think that's most people, isn't it? That's a lot of people who maybe won't talk, won't talk about it.
And you because there's two ways of of being right.
You can either have loads of things happen to you and, you know, not being in certain positions
and not having what you want.
And then suddenly you go and either create it for someone else,
either you become what you don't want
or you become what you didn't have, right?
It's like the hero and villain, right?
The arc of a hero and villain is pretty much the same story
because a lot of people
um use the fact that they've never had it to be terrible people right they use the fact that
they've never had it to withdraw remove their emotions and remove um you know the the idea of
safety and it's all for you know all for me because i need to protect myself and there's something
quite deep in that when you think about the choice of going,
okay, well, I didn't receive it,
so therefore I'm going to give that out to other people.
You know, I didn't have it,
so I'm going to provide it to other people.
And that's probably one of the most powerful things
that anyone can learn, if at all,
because let's be honest, it's a difficult thing to learn.
And would you say you learned that very early on
or say later on?
Obviously, being a mom, that's a skill and a job.
I say a job because it is.
It's a role that is continuous.
You're never going to stop.
So did you learn that early on?
Or was that something that you morphed into a little bit later
when you
started understanding yourself? Another huge question. I would say that I have always been
a caregiver even in my young life. I think that who I am is because of my journey and because of
my lived experience and I've had a lot of different lived experiences. It kind of reminds me of having
chapters in my life that have
transpired. Sometimes it doesn't even feel like I lived that part of my journey. So for me, yes,
it has always just been very in the deepest part of me when I was a younger child and having to
take care of my brother and sister. I already raised my kids before I even had kids. I had to be a caretaker for my mom, you know, a lot of mental health issues.
So I just believe that because of the hand I was dealt, that just became who I was.
I decided what my role was, and that has kept me afloat my entire life.
Just using that as a superpower, right?
So you've made it your superpower it's uh
using the hand you were dealt with to make you the person that you you are and that you're becoming
that what you said about raising uh raising the kids before you raise the kids um i love that um
way of putting it raising you raised your kids before you raised your kids. It's quite an interesting thought because
My biggest fear right has always been
The idea that I wasn't gonna be able to maybe understand my children So I don't have any children yet and I really really want to be a dad
You know, so that's this probably the thing I want the most out of anything in the world, right?
You know, it's not it's not you know, money and success come, you know,
10th, maybe 100th to that, right?
The idea of just being a great parent.
And so looking at mental health that way,
it's made me look at my own, kind of my own demons, I guess I could say.
Looking at my own demons and thinking, okay, well,
if I got things that I'm afraid of and I've got
things that scare me you know if I don't deal with it how do I then become you know the person
that's going to create safety to someone else because you know like like you you said you
basically realized what you didn't have and you realized what you needed to give to someone else
and unfortunately you know you know probably more
than anyone um mental health is such a such a big you know a big conversation that is i mean
it's been hard now but it's also highly overlooked um you know finding safety is probably the first
thing which is very very difficult in you know whatever communities you're in whether it's uh you know through web 2 we're free or you know even outside so how would you say mental health
is obviously i know something that's super important for you you know for your spaces
for your conversations in terms of mental health would you give a blueprint on where to start? So if someone was to say to you,
look, I'm struggling and I don't really know where to start, would you be able to give them
a simple step on where to start? Or what's your thought on it?
Gosh, I would say that it's important to kind of zoom out. We talk about this all the time in trading
and in Web3. And I think that's probably the hardest thing to do in life is to just zoom out.
Because when we're in a heightened emotional place, things can easily spiral out of control.
So I would say the most important thing would be to find out more from the person, right? Figure out, are you struggling in school?
Are you struggling in a relationship?
Relationships can look different, right?
Relationships, I have a relationship with you.
I have a relationship with CryptoStoner.
I have a relationship with Web3, my husband, my children, and those all look very different.
And those all look very different.
So I think that would be my first thing is to sit down and talk to that person and find out maybe what it is that they're struggling with.
And most importantly, what are the emotions they're feeling?
I think that we like to get to the, I don't know, we're such an instant gratification society.
We want everything done, fixed right now.
And that is not feasible, especially when you're talking about mental health.
So to me, it's very much about leaning into what emotions are you feeling and why are you feeling those emotions and being okay with having those emotions because we're emotional beings.
with having those emotions because we're emotional beings.
And I think oftentimes it's easy for us just to kind of push something down
further instead of having somebody that you can talk to about it.
So that's what I would like to be is always somebody's safe place.
And I think that we can do that by lifting each other up and finding people
who are vibrating at the same frequency and are able to provide that safe space
to speak about things.
And you definitely done that and taken that mental on. So I love, I mean, that was a great
answer, honestly. I wasn't expecting you to go into so much detail straight away. I love that.
That was just perfect. As a mom, so what would you say on, like, qualities in your kids that you see that you look at and you go,
oh, I don't know if I gave you this. Where did you learn this?
You know, what qualities would you say you see in your kids that maybe inspire you as well?
First of all, I wanted to tell you I'm excited for you to one day be a dad.
And anybody out there who wants to be a parent and is not yet, your journey is your journey.
There's never a perfect time.
You're never going to be fully ready.
That's one thing I wanted to tell you.
For me, it's about parenting with love and not fear.
I've had a lot of fear-based in my life.
And that is one thing I was absolutely adamant about was not parenting out of fear. And when I say that, I mean, I had to grow with my life. And that is one thing I was absolutely adamant about was not parenting out of fear.
And when I say that, I mean, I had to grow with my children. When they were really little,
I wouldn't allow, you know, the word shut up or I hate you or you're stupid, right?
I was very careful about the things that they were able to say. As they got older,
I was the house that they were able to cuss and act a fool because I needed to
be that safe place for them. So when they're out on the streets and they're out at school
and they're out engaging with others, that's where they're really getting that,
they're behaving in the proper manner. There's certain ways that we can behave in different
situations. God, I would say that my children have taught me so much.
They have taught me, um, what unconditional love is.
And I think that that's every parent, right?
That there's, there's love and there's unconditional love. And when you have strings attached and there's conditions to that person loving you, you really
need to reflect and look at that situation.
But a child provides you with unconditional love.
But things I've learned from my kids, holy hell, everything.
I mean, I've got my son, T-Wop.
He's a phenomenal trader.
I call him my golden child.
And it's not because he's above the others, but anything that you put in front of him,
and he's not a kid anymore, but he is to me.
He touches it and he's gold. He
picks up on things so fast. I'm like, damn, where'd you get that? And I'm talking from sports to TA.
My middle son, he has patience and kindness. He has a lot of, I don't know, just a lot of
wonderful qualities. He's a good person. And my youngest is the most
patient of all. And he definitely has more of the, I would say, energy. And he's able to really pick
up on energies and loves animals. So it's hard. It's hard to say. I've got my daughter who's
adopted and she's very artistic. She's very creative. She helps me
to become a better person and understand other people's points of view that maybe I never
understood or never wanted to in the first place. Do we argue about it sometimes? Absolutely. But I
know that I learned something new from her all the time. You know, when you were talking I just couldn't help to feel almost jealous you know
there there I think everyone else could kind of relate you know we
you know love and how much um you you not only listen to them learn from them as well and
maybe you can and listen and learn from them and i think you know in in this place of
when we talk about mental health you know it's um such a big part that listening part which is
being able to allow people to speak and express
themselves because one of the things that um early on i mean finding out about web3 and
like very early on one of the things that i loved i saw it as was um expressions right being able to
express ourselves and what you said about allowing the children to basically be, allowing
them to have experiences and I think mental health is such a, are so many layers, so many
layers to it, no two people feel the same thing but being able to express yourself,
you know we know for a child how important it is to have someone that lets them to express
themselves and I think often we don't grow into, we don't, we just, you know, our bodies grow,
but we don't always grow from who we've been, right?
So you kind of develop into just like a bigger child.
And if you're a child that was told to, you know, to shut up or to stop
or that you weren't good enough you internalize it
and so many people's um side of mental health is deep rooted in childhood right is deep deep
rooted in the things that were unsaid to them you know obviously what there's a lot for the things
that were said but what wasn't said to them as well, where just having someone telling you that you're good enough,
having someone telling you that you're, you're amazing, you know,
having your mom being able to vocalize that she can see the amazing things
that you do.
So she can see like you taking every single one of your kids and you were able
to break down exactly what you saw in them.
And I just wonder, you know,
how many people in this space and other spaces haven't had that, and I haven't had that chance to have someone tell them.
And I want to just take a second just to, you know, for everyone listening, you guys have been on My Mama Bear's Face and you've seen.
We want to let you know, and I know the sentiment is the same, we want to let you guys know firstly, if you haven't received that, well, we want to let you know that we see you.
We see you in your creativity.
We see you showing up.
We see you in the way that you may not see yourselves.
And we really just want that to resonate with you. you so to anyone listening just a reminder that there are people in this space like mama bear and
papa bear who you will listen and who do care genuinely do care um the power of being able to
do anything is the power to truly care right because Karen is comes with so many different
sides it's tough it's, emotional. It's vulnerable.
And we're all here for the vulnerability.
All right, I'll go with something.
You mentioned your children.
And you mentioned relationship with your partner.
So how does that translate in terms of, you know, conversations with your partner?
You know, is there a lot of mental health conversations? Is there something that you consciously decided to maybe bring into the relationship? And how does that work?
Obviously for the kids, you're super mama. We know this. You're super mama, you're mama
bear, and no one could take that away from you. How does that translate with your partner?
I love that you think I'm superwoman. I'm definitely not.
I love that you think I'm super woman. I'm definitely not.
You are. You are superwoman.
I appreciate that.
You can't just give compliments to everyone and not take them.
You're right. You're right, dammit. I need to work on that for sure.
We're forcing you to take compliments. Take a compliment.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Let me bow.
So I would say that's, man, you're really good at these loaded questions.
So all three of my, four of my children, again, my daughter adopted.
I don't get to see her as often, but they're all adults.
So I have grandchildren too.
I don't know if you know that about me.
What has translated into my relationship with my children?
Papa came to my life really late. I always tell him that.
And he has become the most, I don't even want, I don't even know how to get into it without
getting completely emotional. But this man is my safety. He's my safety. He's my rock. He's my absolute everything. And the way that he took
on my children without any question. And again, it was that unconditional love. It's taken them all
different times. You know, my oldest, he immediately wanted to call him dad. And my boys had never had that. And so I think by him being
who he is to me, treating me with kindness, respect, love, doesn't cuss at me, doesn't
disrespect me. These types of things are what children need at a younger age. And that would
be my only like, oh, I wish I met you earlier. But again, I believe
everything happens for a reason and everything happens in the time that it needs to. So I don't
know what I bring to him. He's like the most amazing. If you guys think I'm good, this man,
you know, they always say behind every man is a wonderful woman. It's opposite. Believe me, this man is, he's absolutely everything to
me. And he provides me with a calm and a safe that I've never felt before. So I don't know
what I bring to him. I just know he brings a shit ton to me. Oh, wow. I wanted to echo that. That was just beautiful. I could just sit and just listen to you talking about, you know, this amazing person in your life. So shout out to Papa Bear. Shout out to Papa because you to be yourself. And acceptance is such a needed thing
when it comes to fully realizing who we are
and fully becoming where we are.
And you know, you did something there
that I would say to be able to give
praise
to someone that that Rocket
you're
breaking
you can't
hear you
very clearly
I thought
it was me
I was like
oh no
no I think
connection
issues but
he will be here very soon.
You haven't got a problem, just...
Hey, can you hear us, Rocket?
Rocket?
Rocket? Rocket? Rocket, if you can hear us, you can leave the space and come back if you need to.
Rocket, can you hear us now?
I'm not sure if it's showing connectivity issues, but I just didn't want to leave everybody sitting here in silence.
and I'm the worst monologuer in the entire whole world.
Rocket did this on purpose.
I was like,
okay,
you have to ask me questions.
Cause I am not a monologuer,
bro.
And he's like,
Oh no,
I got you.
I got you.
that's amazing.
You caught me.
You caught me.
You caught me, you caught me, you caught me.
I did.
I knew this was a setup.
I had to set you up a little bit, you know.
We like the uncomfortableness.
Get out of the comfortable space.
You know, you've allowed a lot of people to get out there in comfortable spaces.
So we wanted to put you for the ropes, guys.
But, you know, you've been trained for this. This is the the mom in you you know you're dealing with we're dealing
with kids you're ready you know you've been you've been you've been ready for this it's funny you say
that i think i think about that every day when i deal with trolls and people saying things to me
i'm like bro you don't even know who you're playing with here i'm in the big leagues like
come on sweetheart come on, sweetheart. Come on.
You know what? They don't realize it yet, but they will. Give it a few more years. They'll be like,
oh, yeah, mom, you really were a superhero. You didn't know. Batman ain't got nothing on you.
I really want to see like a comic book about just like a super mom, super mom life. I think somebody's got to make that.
There's got to be someone in Web3
that's thought of that idea.
And we need to find out who that person is.
If you guys know who that person is,
we want to know because, you know,
you were given flowers.
You know, I would give flowers to my mom.
I mean, when you were talking,
I just couldn't help to think about even my own mum
and how much she'd given me and how much she's given me and still gives to me
that I didn't realise until I left home, right?
When I left home, I kind of went into the world
and I remember having to start doing things for myself
and I thought, wow, my mum was a superhero and she she she really
is and I it didn't hit me and I called her one day and I said you know I I've got to tell you
something and she thought there was something wrong and she said oh what's wrong you know
already trying to fix my issues that I didn't have right and I said no well I've just realized
that you're you're you're a true superhero and it's made me just give me such a deep appreciation for
just for women and for for motherhood in general and i don't think that we could ever ever quantify
and be able to verbalize you know the the strength that it takes and what you can learn from it you
know often when we speak about like success right one of the big things I've seen is, like, a reoccurring theme.
People talk about success, and they talk about, like, how being, you know, successful is just about what you have and what you've done.
And no one really talks about success as in who you are, right, like, who you are in your everyday life, you know, being a success, you know, being like a mom that gives 100%, being a dad that gives 100%.
How much more of a success that is, you know, to the world.
You know, I've kind of got like a soft spot for anyone that just tries their best when it comes to relationships, when it comes to the people they care about.
their best when it comes to relationships, when it comes to the people they care about.
You know, you learn a lot about someone by the people they care about and how they talk
about the people they care about.
You know, it's easy to give praises to strangers that you may not see, but the people you care
about and people you love, you know, do we take enough time sometimes to tell them whether
we actually care and love them?
Mama Bear, there is a big question that has been asked,
and everybody wants to know.
I don't know if you're ready for this,
but we all want to know, what does Mama Bear listen to?
Is it Adele? Is it a bit of Beyonce?
Are you a 50 Cent fan?
We want to know, what do you listen to?
I like all those, actually.
You'd be surprised. Yeah, no, I love rap. What do you listen to? I like all those, actually.
You'd be surprised.
Yeah, no, I love rap.
I'm more of an old school, you know, Warren G, like, you know, the old shit.
Oh, you came with her.
You're against the shit.
Oh, for sure. For sure, yeah.
And it depends on my move or my mood.
I might be out trying to race out on the streets and turn on my move, bitch, get out the way song. But I'm also, I'm also, I love country music. So I like everything,
honestly. I don't like the scary music. Respect to everybody out there who does, where they
scream. I don't like that. That ups upsets me um but yeah i pretty much like everything
yeah definitely i you know what i feel like i i i'm just picturing a like a a version of ludicrous
like you know i can just see this and i'm gonna manifest this like ludicrous and you doing a
podcast oh i love ludicrous shout out to shout outrous shout out to ludicrous shout out to ludicrous
it's funny because uh ludicrous was like my kind of pump up you know like when i when i used to
walk back home from from school and you know you you walk around and you were scared and you you
know you had all these thoughts and one song that song that actually really did that for me was,
you know, literally the song you mentioned.
So I would listen to it and walk,
and I felt like I was a giant.
I felt like, even though I was like this scrawny little kid,
and I'd walk down the street, and my confidence
would just go straight through the roof.
And it's just amazing that it's just the same.
Do you ever imagine yourself walking into a room and a music starts?
I always think about different themes that would play while I walk.
I love that shit.
Yep.
Oh, yes.
And different occasions would have a different theme too for me.
I feel like it depends what the occasion.
So lately I've got quite a big team, right?
And we've actually took on about 100 plus people in the last few weeks.
And I don't know if you're a wrestling fan at all, but there's been a big thing with John Cena lately, turning hills, becoming a villain.
And the theme tune it's become
somewhat of a joke so when i walk in you know for meetings with my team um uh you know someone's
kind of wait waiting for me i'll just come up to them and go i go i go wait there you know start
and it's just become so funny that it's it's caught on and i'll just catch random people um
just what you know going about like you know business whatever just start humming
to john cena and it's gonna become a theme tune for like starting meetings and
yes definitely think about it all the time. I love Superman sometimes as well.
The Superman theme.
You know when you get really, really good food?
You get given a fresh plate of food.
You're ready to eat, and you feel like you've done everything that you need to do.
I often hate either Superman or the Avengers fame too.
I'm a big superhero fan, so I'm so glad you actually mentioned the theme tune. What would be your theme tune though?
What would be your entry theme tune? That is so hard. I, that is, okay, I think... I don't even know if you know this song,
but it's called Jupiter, I think.
Oh, God, I got to look it up now.
It's a Jupiter song.
I was hoping you were going to sing it.
I was really hoping you'd sing it.
It's by Train.
It's called Drops of Jupiter. That is definitely my song.
I would actually listen to it. Are we going to get a rendition? Are we going to get you singing a little bit?
That's all on Pop-Up, bro. Not on me. Not on me. I'm trying to hurt everybody's ears here.
That would be the most exclusive thing. I mean, you'd wake up tomorrow and it could go viral for all the right reasons
Yeah, we'll see how I go viral. Yeah, no, I
Would love that honestly and then that's that's how we say
Segway you into getting Ludo on there because then Ludo with Sharia and then Jupiter and that would be a big moment for web3.
Oh yeah and John Cena follows me so shout out to Cena get on in here and meet up.
Let's see what we can get him saying. Come on Cena I mean I've been singing the
Fame tune the whole you know the last two weeks so I don't know what you've put in. I don't know
what you put in that song. I feel like there's got to be some magic spells or something.
Because it just works.
Even though I was an Undertaker fan.
But the scene, for some reason, I hear it.
And every time you hear it, the feeling's the same.
Every single time.
Talking about spirituality, I don't know if you've seen Sinners.
It's just out in the cinema,
like, you know, big, big movie. I don't know if you've seen anything about it.
And we've just, I've taken, you know, some of the guys from some of our
team.
We wanted to do something a little bit different, so we took everyone out.
Watch Sinners, and we started talking about themes of spirit.
Oh no, you're cutting out really bad again.
He's really, he's really wanting me to be up here monologuing I have not
seen the movie sinners I actually just looked it up so I bet it was a good one
though I have not seen that one
this is they're trying to leave their troubled lives behind.
Oh, that looks good, though.
I like that.
Some pretty hot chicks in that one, too, you guys.
I don't know.
I have not seen that movie.
Wow.
Rocket's leaving me hanging. That's okay. We don't even have a co-host anymore. We'll see how this goes. But I would say spirituality is a huge thing for me. Rocket, you can jump on in here
anytime, bro. Definitely. I think that I've learned a lot.
I'm trying to learn about who I am and who I want to be for myself.
And I think that sometimes when we have people who have only devoted their lives to their children, mothers, dads, aunts, uncles, whatever, whoever it is, sometimes when all the kids are gone, you don't know who
the hell you are. And I would say that's definitely where I am. And nobody really talks about things
like that, about how you've only lived for somebody else. And I have no regrets. I mean,
I'm absolutely happy that I chose the life that I have. The cards that I've been dealt,
I would never change a thing. But I think it's something nobody really talks about.
Some mothers definitely, you know, have careers before having children.
I never did that.
I had my kids pretty young.
And like I said, I've had a lot of different journeys in life.
And so for me, I've been on this really big mental health journey for the last couple of years.
Are you back?
I'm back. I think it's because you didn't sing the song.
Big apology. It is the connection for some reason. It's going up and down. I've had them without basically a few issues with the train so I ended up being in an uber
Because that's the only way I was gonna have better connections and then it turns out there's some blind spots. So that was a
Just couldn't miss it. So
Apologies for that. Um, but thank you. Thank you for you know for again, you're you're
again your your um softness and ability to just deal with it one of the things that we tell um
softness and ability to just
our guys is we're going to show them the the reality you know all the tough spots we're
going to show them um we don't want anything to be overly polished where it feels unorganic and
it feels like we're um overdoing it we just want to give them reality. So thank you for that.
I was listening, but I couldn't talk.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you now.
It's funny you say that because I feel like as humans,
we try so hard to be less robotic, especially on X.
And then the robots are trying to be less robotic and be humans.
So I find that to just be so ironic all the time, but it is,
it's important to just be you.
Oh, a hundred percent. You know, you,
you use the word unapologetically yourself and that's probably one of the
things I'm often accused of being, you know,
being myself and being super loud and just do...
You kind of dance to your own drum beat without anybody else.
And it's such a...
I don't know if I became that because of, like I was saying, my mum.
I don't know if I became that because of my mum, which allowed me...
My parents, I would say both of them, right,
which allowed me to have that space in that mental health journey as well.
You know, you were talking about your journey for mental health, right,
and in this space as well.
Is it, would you say there's other days where you look at it and you go oh you know what look how far i've come but who you know you look at it and go look how far i've
come and i wonder if i could speak to a younger version of me and this has been a big you know
questions that we've been asking a lot like how would you speak to a younger version of yourself
now like how would you would you go about speaking to a younger version of yourself now? Like, how would you go about speaking to a younger version of yourself?
Jeez.
I've thought about this before.
I have.
I remember this really cool thing, just really quick, my son's teacher did.
And he had them, it was in middle school, and he had them write a note to themselves.
And then after they graduated high school, he would mail them that letter. And I always thought, man, that's so beautiful. You know, just to look at that
innocence. If I were to speak to my younger self, that's really hard. I would say that I'm enough.
And I would say that feelings are okay.
I think oftentimes we have feelings that come up and we just don't have time to process them or it's too painful to process them.
And I think overall that can do a lot of destruction to our not only mental but physical health.
And that's something that I have definitely felt is the physical pain.
So your body keeps score.
That's a real thing.
Yeah, that is true.
It's, you know, the muscle memory is not just for physical, not just for physical stuff, right?
It's emotional as well.
You know, one of the, one of my scariest, I mean, when you're saying that, I can't help to think about,
One of my scariest, I mean, when you're saying that, I can't help to think about,
but I was taught that your brain doesn't know the difference between what's happening,
what's happened, and what could happen, right?
So if you focus on, you know, on a thought, so I'll give you an example.
So if I said right now, if anyone to remember 2020 and COVID, for example,
and instantly without me saying any more,
that's going to take you back to a place
and you're going to start thinking about, you know,
all the things that you went through.
And if I said, do you remember when you were a child
and, you know, you were taken out for ice cream, right?
You go back to a place and your
body reacts as if it's almost happening again and i think that's what makes it so difficult when it
comes to obviously the the mental health part is you you know sometimes what's going on you
internalize it but you keep running back and forth and back and forth with it so if you said if you
could talk to yourself you know you you would have um obviously
you'd have the tools because you are who you are now um the idea of forgiving yourself for not
knowing um what you don't know because it's so so easy to be so harsh on ourselves you know
where we never seem to be attractive enough and we never seem to be successful enough and we never
seem to be good enough and articulate enough and you know have all the right tools and have everything that you want
because we're so lost in this idea of I'm going to become this person and I'm going to have this
thing and when I become this person then life is going to be good and when I when I get to this
point then I'm not going to have to do so much I'm you know I'm going to be accomplished and I'm not going to have to do so much. I'm, you know, I'm going to be accomplished and I'm going to have everything that I want to
and I'm going to heal all the wounds that I've been.
When sometimes it's like, actually, you're in it.
Like, you're in it right now.
And being in it right now is your superpower.
Just realizing that, okay, it's happening.
I'm allowed to feel the emotions.
I'm allowed to feel the feelings.
And me feeling the
feelings don't make me a bad person or don't make me less qualified than anybody else. Right. And
so I love that. I love how you described emotions having, um, yeah, emotions not being forgotten,
um, forgotten by the muscles. Yeah. I just wanted to say something I've learned recently and I can't
believe it took me this long. So I want to say something I've learned recently, and I can't believe it took
me this long, so I want to say this in case somebody else needs to hear it, but you do not
have to go back into your past in order to heal trauma, and I know that sounds so silly, but it
has been absolutely profound for me. I am a person who suffers with PTSD, and it's complex, I guess, complex PTSD.
And so if I hear something, I feel something, I smell something, I'm actually back in that moment.
And again, that is exactly like you said, your brain doesn't know the difference between that situation and the moment right now.
the moment right now. And so for me, I used to think that I had to remember every single detail,
what my part in it was, who was there, smells. I mean, I had to like go through the entire thing.
And when I learned that I don't have to go back into that trauma in order to heal,
I mean, that's just taken such a huge weight off of me. So now I'm just I
Just learn new tools. I learned tools of being mindful and being present and doing the pause before I react and respond
And I think those are things that I'm gonna have to do for the rest of my life
But to me that's growth and that is healing
Hmm that is that ongoing journey you I mean you're so right. It's so easy to lock back into the past,
right? And trying to relive a moment of the pain. I think there's almost, sadly, there's like an
addiction, an addiction to reliving the past. And there's an addiction to trying to make it as vivid as possible when it
comes to things that we've gone through and that i think is probably you know probably one of the
biggest takeaways that anyone could take you don't have to go back to your past to to heal
and trauma you know you don't you don't have to you know heal trauma that way i think that's such
a such a powerful um powerful tool and i think that's
what i would say to my younger self um you you're okay you're okay being in the moment
and you're okay feeling all the things that you're feeling and i i always said you know
when when i have children that's going to be one of the things that i i teach them right is that
just slow down and stop. It's okay,
right? Whatever you're feeling, feel it, feel it. Is it anger? Is it pain? Is it, you know,
because if you're feeling something, that means you're alive and that means you're able to
analyze things in a certain way, right, and see how it makes you feel. Because the worst thing is
you leave it and then
now it's going to stay there forever and you have to keep going back to it to be able to understand
what it is that happened when you're allowed to feel it you're allowed to feel the feelings as
well you know and i i kind of want to do uh one of you know one um one thing that I know your space has done very, very well, right?
I want to ask a question that seems unrelated,
but it's totally related to what you said.
Obviously, you do a lot of consultations, right?
Yes.
How does that work in terms of how does consultation,
how does that work, you know, in terms of, you know, how does consultation, you know, how does that take place?
Oh, gosh.
Again, so I've done, I've helped a lot of people grow their accounts for free.
My son and my husband were like, you have to be able to be compensated for what you're doing, right?
The X space in general and these accounts, everything varies. So something that I like to do,
and this actually, I'll drop my quote alpha here. I have not even announced this yet, but anybody who is a project in the Green Pill Collective, I'm actually offering them a value to go into
their accounts and to give them a perspective, my perspective on their
account health and to kind of give them some pointers on how it is that they can grow.
But I do all different kinds of things. I've had people ask me to help them with their accounts
with removing bots, teaching them about, you know, the ratio of the follower to followers or following to followers,
just reviewing analytics, really finding out how an account pushes, helping with the monetization
prospect. You know, it's kind of all over the place because it's really loaded.
But I think that sometimes just having an outside perspective really helps and it's not for
everybody and I've always been very very open on any type of money that I've received from eggs
I am demonetized right now like so many others so I have not been pushing as hard but I would say that my I'm not completely absent so I
don't know that goes back to me liking to help people and to help people grow
but I think that there's just certain things that projects in my opinion can
do well from by working on their account health 100% and you know the reason I connected those two things and
you know you told my PTSD right and the idea that we don't forget things on and
I think having having someone there that can help through a journey right
anyone that can help for a journey anyone that's gone through it that can
help and that's one of the biggest takeaways when it comes to web free, right?
People make mistakes.
You know, people make mistakes because they don't know any better.
And they try to sometimes maybe do it themselves, right?
And everybody tries to do it themselves when realizing that there is experts out there.
You know, there are people like yourself who will
give them the tools you know we spoke a lot about um parenting we spoke a lot about
uh-oh they got you again
rocket is going again this is really interesting i really think he's challenging me here
are you back rocket i always think okay i see the microphone turn off so um but yeah i i think that
in general there's lots of things to look at when it comes to account health
and i think that it is like the ultimate goal. A lot of people really put on their
blinders and they think, balls out, I need to get as many followers as I possibly can. But when you
have that mindset, are those the type of people that you want interacting? Are those the types
of people that you want on your feed? Are you back, Rocket? I'm back, I'm back. I was challenging you.
backrocket i'm back i'm back i was challenging you
i could i could hear you but you can hear me i was i was challenging you i knew it we we love
we love the challenge you you're right it's just having those you know the right people on your
feet right having people that um one are willing to learn but also willing to teach because
i just think it is you know whether it's mental health or whether it's business or whether it's growing an account, there's no point of trying to do it on your own.
It's just somebody that's already figured out something that you're looking to have.
You know, why go through all the trauma and the troubles if there's somebody like yourself that is offering you know all the experience and offering
be able to shorter the experience you know i used to to have um a a weird take on uh courses and
you know going to experts right and i went to a networking event um years ago right networking
events i was very new to networking had had no idea what I was doing,
you know, a friend just sent me a link and said, oh, you know, there's all these people,
you've got to go and speak to them, and it's not, it's going to change, you know, your life,
and it's going to change the way you see things, and my whole thing was, well, you know, why do I
have to pay to, you know, to listen to someone, and, you know, why do I have to pay to listen to someone? Why do I have to put that and whatever?
And lo and behold, I turned up to this space and paid for it.
And the gentleman at the time that was given the information said,
you know why it's important to pay for things that are important?
Because if you don't pay for something whether it's a
time you're given whether it's you know something that you're paying for you're never really going
to care about the information because the information has always been around and it's
about commitment right it's about being able to commit to yourself and I remember speaking to
this gentleman and I thought oh yeah sure okay I'll Okay, I'll do it. And I did it. And within six months, not only my income, I'd quite tripled because this person just condensed everything that I knew.
But my skill set just really just expanded.
And I wondered if there was, you know, even the idea of therapy, going to therapy, right?
That's something that everybody runs away from, right? The of therapy going to therapy right that's something that everybody
runs away from right the idea of going to therapy and i thought you know maybe maybe that person is
offering a service because they are an expert uh they've been through it and it just changed my
perspective on you know applying for courses and just having you know people that i can consult right um i would say even down to
a business right so it's down to running business um i mean i've i've seen people like gary gary
and and tony robbins and you know um just just amazing people who really changed the landscape
and when i think about all the things that I'd learned from these
people by just applying to something that they they had at the time when I you know I used to
think oh maybe it's for them and you realize actually it's more for it's more for you and I
think you've you've encapsulated that you know so so far so okay I want to get on a obviously
I want to get on a, obviously, consultancy with you,
just because I've learnt and had so much, you know,
so much and seen so much evidence of you being who you are.
And I say this with, you know, giving flowers to you
and your audience and everything that you've done,
because there are a lot of people, unfortunately,
who are not what they
think they are you know and that's uh you know don't want to insult anyone but a lot of people
aren't really who they think they are and you you mentioned um like imposter syndrome and so on right
there's a lot of people who should have imposter syndrome because they are truly imposters because
they're not who uh they say they are they they don't
have the values that they live by and so when i see someone that has those values and you know
is more than just another person that's coming on that's someone that cares right i think you
can't build anything if you don't care and it's just so so important we won want you can't you can't you can't you know and i know i know
by speaking to you that you're a very spiritual person you know i can i can tell right i can tell
you're very spiritual spiritual person on so many levels and i want to talk a little bit about like
spirituality and then transition to you know one of our favorite segments is where we do a quick round of fire
where we ask you burning questions that you know we've been we've been dying to know uh anything
from you know how you have your your toast to who you would be if you were a superhero i want to
talk about like the spirituality side of it right so you you practice would you say you practice spirituality I don't even know
if that's how you you word it do you practice spirituality or I think I think practicing
mindfulness and that's why my space is called mine and papa space is called presently present
and the irony of that is I have such a difficult time being present because I disassociate a lot.
I just kind of do-do-do, holy shit, where did the last six hours go type of person.
And I think that's what I'm every single moment working on is being more presently present
and being more mindful in the current space.
Because when you suffer with these, you know, different mental health issues,
you and trauma, you tend to go to another place. And so things from like, grounding myself in the
grass, looking outside and appreciating the green trees and their movement, just really becoming
present in the moment has it's it's a game changer for me, because it's it moment has, it's, it's a game changer for me because
it's, it's like a, it's, it's like herding cats, H, you know, like herding, not herteen,
herding cats, you know? I feel like I'm herding cats all the time with my mind. I'm like,
come back here, mama, come over here. Yeah. I can just see.
I mean, that's not where we go viral for it.
Mama Bear just admits that she likes hurting cats.
No, thanks.
Clip that, somebody.
Get that shit out of the ether.
It's the, you know, I can see that on every space, you know.
Have you heard about Mama Bear?
She's been doing something incredible.
What is that?
Well, you know, we don't know if she was hiding cats or hiding cats, you know.
I definitely do get what you're saying.
It's very, very, very true in that space.
And honestly, I'm impressed.
I'm impressed in the sense of, you know, I go by,
I wouldn't say feelings, but I go by guts and intuition a lot
when I speak to people.
Even, you know, the questions and, you know,
the way that we try to set up the conversations.
One of the things that we were talking, I mean,
100X is in the chat, so shout out to 100X,
but one of the conversations that we were talking i mean 100x is in in the chat so shout out on jacks but one of the conversations
that we were having about creating the podcast we wanted to basically make it so free that people
could talk about anything and one of the things that you said nothing's off limit and i love that
i you know thank you for allowing us to be so free with this conversation. So in the spirit of freedom, burning questions.
This is a quick fire round.
This is a section we like to call quick fire round.
Are you ready for the quick fire round?
So we ask you questions, you say what's in your mind and you go.
Favourite superhero, go.
Batman.
Ooh, Batman.
We love Batman.
Okay. If you could be any animal
What would you be and why?
Beluga whale
Because they're so happy
And they're so cute and squishy
They make really cool sounds to be fair
We do love the cool sounds
They do
And Childhood's Cross
Oh shit I can't even think of the name Luke Perry Childhood's cross. Oh, shit.
I can't even think of the name.
Luke Perry.
Let's do that.
Luke Perry from France.
From.
From.
I don't even remember the damn show.
Oh, I'm so much older than you, honey.
I don't know.
We just went with Luke Perry.
We'll have to look up Luke Perry.
I think I know Luke Perry.
Okay.
Guilty pleasure.
Gummy bears.
Yes.
I'm a gummy bear freak.
But they have to be a certain kind.
It's the Harborough.
The Harborough brand.
And I love to make them.
Oh, my God. It's just going to go viral.
I love to make them wet because I love the colors of them.
Yeah, that's definitely going viral.
Could you say it again, please?
Yes.
Okay.
What's one thing about you that people wouldn't expect?
people wouldn't expect?
I am like, how deep do I want to go?
I have survived something that most people would never,
ever even think of a person experiencing.
So not going into it, but I have been buried before, alive.
Whoa.
I did not see that coming.
That's amazing.
Okay.
You're stuck on a desert island.
You can take two things with you.
What are you taking?
Oof.
A deserted island.
Definitely Papa.
And I don't know. A knife. A knife. I want a knife.
I think Papa with a knife is a good combination. It could be probably very handy.
His brains and my grit. I don't know. I'll go hustle a penguin or something. I don't know. We'll figure it out. Well, that sounds like a party. You know, you're never going to run out of food. You're not going to run out of safety for sure. So good choice.
All right. One final one. Favorite number and really odd, but your favorite number and why?
And this one's a bit more of a loaded question. So your favorite number and why? And this one, this one's a bit more of a loaded question. So your
favorite number and why? My favorite number is nine, because it is the highest number that ever
is. People can disagree with me on this, but it's what I believe. And I believe that nine is divine
divinity. I'm so glad you said that. You know that was that was so I did a bit of a preparation
right when I was going to speak to you and one of the I wish I'd recorded this and put a video
one of the things that I was working into is like intuition so I was doing like a intuition test
right just trying to figure out like gut feelings and I was doing a lot of um learnings on numbers and
just synchronicity and just the way that the work works and every everything is numbers right
and one of the um things that i learned was asked you know asking people what their favorite number
you know divinity you're talking about divinity how the number nine is and there's lots of
writings whether it's tesla and so many people that talk about the power of number nine and one of the ones uh I was asked I just
asked a random person actually even today um that I told him I was going to be doing this space
and I was going to have a guest and one of the things that I told them I said look um I'm thinking
of a really great question
I could ask a guest and they said okay ask the guest your you know their favorite number but
before you do you have to write it down and you said number nine so I'm so glad this happened
there's no way um you know there's no way that could have happened any other way with any other
person I think if I tried that with any other guest i probably would have gone left field so the fact that you said number nine says quite a lot about you so in
terms of okay in terms of um getting yourself to be everything that you are and the version of you
know of this version of you right would you say it takes quite a lot of preparation to be this
version of you i know you are you know unapologetically
yourself right but do you have like a calm down so when he you know everything uh when the lights
you know are down does it hate you when you're like yeah i felt i feel overly tired you know
because it's been a spiritual person when you care but when you're a caregiver there's a lot of like
you know a lot of physical tiredness but there's a lot of spiritual tiredness that comes with it.
So how do you unwind and how does it hit you?
Something that I've learned by being on this space is that I am observing and also absorbing people's energy.
And that's why I tell everybody to really observe and not absorb.
But it's very difficult not to absorb other people's energy,
even if it's just on the timeline, things that I'm consuming,
things that I'm putting out.
So I would say my biggest thing that I do,
and I know this doesn't really answer your question,
is I feel that I am a light and I am an energy.
I feel a lot of people are magnetized towards that, whether it's good, bad, or in between. I don't think that most people have
bad intentions, but I have to protect myself. So every day I do some breathing and I create a spiritual field around myself. I imagine light coming in through my head
and it's not always white light. It depends. I see a lot of colors and I definitely protect myself.
And anytime that anybody gives me their negativity, I have learned through Babs and
through various people in my life that I can give them back their energy with some of my love and light.
So I would say the end of the day, I mean, there's sometimes I'm just, I have to shut down because I'm having a difficult time emotionally.
And I would say my favorite thing to do to calm down is place my hand on Papa's chest because he has taught me how to breathe.
I know that sounds ridiculous, but when you're in a heightened state at all times and you're in these like really crazy moments where you cannot relax, it's a lot about breathing.
And that man has taught me how to breathe.
So I would say that's what I do is touch his chest, learn how to breathe, and I'm still learning how to breathe.
is touch his chest, learn how to breathe,
and I'm still learning how to breathe.
That's, yeah, you couldn't have said it in any better way.
Learning how to breathe is, you know,
it's so important to taking a pause, right?
Taking a pause and, you know, whether you're, like you said,
whether you're dealing with something tough
or whether you're just having to calm down from a lot of excitement
and a lot of things that I've, you know, I've come through. come through um i don't think you know people i think they've heard you but i
think that they heard you you know they they heard you well enough learning how to breathe
learning how to breathe learning how to take a second take a beat and stop it you know the stopping. You know, the beauty is everything that happens to you is not happening to you.
It's happening for you, whether you know it or not. It's happening for you. And if you realize
that you're in control of your reality and you can take a second to tell yourself that you're
in control and really breathe, breathe in the things that you
want bring you know and again breathe out the things you don't want because i think that's
you know isn't that what anxiety is anxiety is just having you know your your brain telling
you something that's happening that's not uh you know you've not been able to stop and realize and
to make maybe how you feel and what's happening, you can't align the two.
And breathing is such an important tool.
You know, it's taught in martial art, it's taught in music,
it's taught in so many fields that have effect on the human body, right?
So if you listen to music, you know, breath control is such an important thing
because being able to
breathe and articulate words being able to stop for a second and just be still and let the breathing
do the work and being aware of your own heartbeats you know is a it's a huge huge um life saver
game changer but it's also in certain situations you know even in business i mean um we're often taught
to maybe not jump for the first offer right not jump for the first offer that you're given being
able to just stop and let things just be for a second and i i hope that you know you guys that
are listening um you you're taking in as much as i did from that. Just being able to listen and stop
and breathe and know that you're creating the reality. And at any moment, you can change
it. And if you don't like it, you can change it at any moment. You know, the biggest lie
ever told is, oh, well, it's just the way things are. It's not just the way things are.
Things are only the way they are because you allowed them to be the way that they are.
You know, being given a doubt about hand doesn't define, you know, everything that you are and everything that you're going to be.
But being able to stop in a moment, breathe and realize that you're in control and you can change at any moment is powerful.
So thank you so much for, you can change at any moment it's powerful so thank you so much
for you know for putting that we we often ask our guest um we've made it a thing where we ask them to
give two questions that they would for the next guest and we keep that and and we open it on the
day and our last guest you know which was very different, we had a great conversation about business and so on, had two questions for you.
And the first one was, what would your younger self be proud of today?
My younger self would be proud that I've made it this far and that I am so mentally sound. That would be,
yep, that would be it. I love that. And the second question is,
what's one fear you faced that completely changed you?
I had to do a little bit of breathing for this one.
What is one fear that completely changed me that I had to face?
Was no longer being in fear.
Giving myself that permission to not be scared.
I know that's kind of a little bit of flip, but that's definitely been my journey.
I've had a lot of fear.
I've had a lot of fear. I've had a lot of uncertainty.
And that is a challenge that I'm still facing every day is to realize that I no longer need to be in fear.
And something else I wanted to say about that that I say a lot is I believe behind all anger is fear.
So if you have somebody in your life that has a lot of anger, there's fear behind that.
So really pay attention to that and be gracious and kind.
Oh, that's, I mean, my heart kind of, you know, pounded a little bit harder when you said to no longer being fair.
And just choosing not to be scared, right, is so, I mean, I needed to breathe when you said that.
I needed to breathe a little bit more.
You know, the idea of fear, and I hope you don't mind if I lean into this,
because the idea of fear has been the single greatest mission, right,
that I've been on for the longest time running.
You know, I had fear.
Fear has, you know, multiple meanings, right?
And you said most people, if you see anger, anger is fear.
And I think we've all heard, you know, fear, you know,
false evidence appear in real, which is one thing.
And how you deal with it, there's two ways of dealing with it, right?
You can, you know, forget everything and run, which is, you know, a big thing. Or you know forget everything and run which is you know a big thing or you can
face everything arise and you know it's like the the child that's scared of the dark and one day
decides okay i'm no longer going to be scared of the dark i'm going to face it um and i think
facing facing um the fears you realize that actually it's not um as big as we make it out
to be sometimes because sometimes it's just because we as we make it out to be sometimes,
because sometimes it's just because we've never faced up to it.
And so that's really, really powerful.
Thank you for just going into that.
And I love the fact that you took a second to breathe as well.
You told us how to do it, and then you stopped and actually did it live as well,
which is great. This is what we want to get from all our guests.
We just want the realness of it.
So being able to do that even live just says a lot about you as a person.
Now, we're going to go to my favourite section of being able to have these spaces.
When we speak, it might come across to people like well this is you know
it's been scripted there's a bunch of questions she's been sent and and there's you know all this
when it's just two people having a real conversation and one way that we try to make it special is by
bringing up questions from everyone by bringing up a few questions from from the audience there's quite
a few people there shout out to everyone in in a space right now we want to open up open it up to
um to you guys just ask a few questions and then we'll carry on so anyone's willing to come up
ask any question it could be anything that you want to know it could be any help that you you
you want to get you know this is the is the time. Mama Bear's there.
You've got her.
You've got her undivided attention.
Anybody would like to come up?
First, I want to say thank you so much, Mama Bear, for coming today and making this happen.
And I want to ask you, you said John Cena follows you.
How John Cena follows you how John Cena I have no idea it's not bizarre I remember telling Papa I was like holy shit he's like what I do John
Cena follows me um I don't know I think that he follows a bunch of people in crypto and I think
that um he might be coming out with something you guys i don't know i it makes
you wonder right if he's seen people out there on the on the on the timeline and there and he's like
huh maybe maybe that's what he's maybe he's trying to prepare us for something
maybe he's going to host spaces very soon. Maybe.
Who knows, honestly.
That'd be a trip, right?
Anything's possible, right?
Anything is possible in this space.
And this is one of the things I love about Web3.
I see the most random people and then I find out, oh, this person's in my industry.
Or they do this.
Or they've got this.
And, oh, that person's the person that produced. I was in a i think it was a actually is on a mark tech i was in a space with
mark tech the other day and someone came up and they were like oh yeah we produce movies for marvel
and i thought oh okay that's that's really cool so this is the the beauty of the space that we're in
and i think the fact that all these wonderful people follow you know
follow and get behind what we're doing i think we need to start realizing um that there's so much
more to this space there is so much more and we're lucky to be the first people in right lucky to be
the first week we spoke about being like protectors of the space and i think you know we we use the
word guardian or a lot right and we talk about
guardian and i use it a little bit different where i go guardians who are the guardians that protect
the space and i think you're one of the guardians that protect the space and i think not just our
space has recognized it but i think everyone else has recognized it you're definitely one of the
guardians so i want to shout out to you for being a guardian of this space and we're
going to keep promoting the idea of being a guardian of the space until there's enough of us
and our voices are so loud that we drown out everybody else that is negative and that brings
negative energy that brings negative connotations or negative publicity to this space so shout out
to you for being a guardian and shout out to to mark tech as well for for being another guardian you know of this space anyone else got a question
we got first and waffles first how are you hey good wanted to say first, you're a really great host.
I love you.
You're so personable and just really generous spirit.
It's super obvious.
Thank you so much for that.
I appreciate it.
So I do have a question for Mama Bear.
This is actually kind of a little selfish of me because I love animals so much.
But how about pets? You know, you've been
talking about mental health. Do you have pets and are they, you know, are they something that
helps you kind of keep yourself calm? Because I know for me, that's a big part of, you know,
my mental health journey is animals have been a big part in keeping me happy, keeping me sane.
So I was just curious if that was the case with you too.
Oh, I love animals. So if I could have a farm, I would. Papa is not a fan of me getting like
mini Highland cows and letting them run around the house. But I'm never going to stop pushing that.
I love all animals. I don't like snakes though. We have a cat. His name is Goose.
He's very, very, very fat.
But I love him, and he doesn't love me.
So it makes me sad.
That is Papa's cat.
He is attached to Papa at the hip all times, guards the bathroom, goes to work with him.
I beg for his attention, and he wants nothing to do with me.
I did have a dog, but he passed away and that was a huge loss for me.
Shout out to anybody who's ever lost a pet.
He was my absolute, oh, I just adored him.
I could tell him everything and anything.
So right now I don't have a friend, but if you guys could help me convince Papa, whether
it's a Highland cow, I'm okay with a pig.
I think it'd be cool to have a pig running around the house.
It has to be something that my current cat will not try to take out.
So I just love all the animals.
You know, Papa, if you're listening, I've heard Highland cows are actually great inside the house.
They're very good guests.
They pay rent on time.
Super, they clean up after themselves.
So I think it's totally doable
you are amazing thank you i i need you to come to all the spaces and tell them that oh i'll tell
them that i love that i could just you know i just i'd love to see a papa bear's face right now
as we're saying this papa bear cow, cow, please get a cow.
And can we get a cow?
We want to make like a PSP of the cow.
I think that would be like really cool.
Pretty amazing.
And Mama Bear, can you do, if you do get a,
you've got a cat named Goose.
Can you get a goose?
Is it Goose or Goose? And name a cat.
And my life would be complete.
That's, yeah.
It absolutely will do that.
And I think Papa said, if I ever do get a Highland cow, he's going to name it Bacon and Dutch.
That puts a whole new spin on bringing home the bacon, you know.
Absolutely love that.
Any other questions? Anything that you guys want to ask?
It doesn't always have to be about crypto.
It doesn't always have to be.
It can just be about real people, you know.
And this is what we've got to promote is real people
just doing great business in a great space.
You know, we get so lost in, you know, trying to showcase
sometimes that we forget that these are actually real people.
They have lives and they have pets and they have children
and they have things that they care about that drive them to work so hard.
You know, when mama bear and papa bear show up every day
and every single day and, you know, they come in and they hold spaces,
they've still got lives
that they've got to go and live so we've got we've got king king ab king ab so
king ab so how are you i'm i'm good i'm good i'm good it's king ab king ab king ab yeah yeah yeah thank you i don't know if i'm to say gm or to say hello everybody
all right um
shout out to the host rocket 100x everybody mama b um and uh everybody and the listeners all right i i was just scrolling on eggs and i saw rugged
signs episode three i'm like what i've not been on the space um on on this particular space before
so i decided to hop on so i want to know what is the space all about what is it all about because um kind of i do i don't i just want to know
fantastic so great question can you can you hear me hello yeah uh we
we'll get back to that question after the podcast because
yeah we know right now we'll take questions about the podcast
because Mama B's face is
starting soon also
I will get back to you King AB
I'll send you a DM of
what we're all about, let's go to
Martek
how you doing my guy Martek
wait
sorry they're muted.
You know,
Hamzadek, I've got
a lot of love for you. Absolutely.
He's got a lot of fingers, though.
A lot of love for you.
I'm going to do something.
We talk about being real, right?
In a space. I'm'm gonna do something um you know we talk about being real right in a space i'm gonna do something um you know you and you know and you know i've got a lot for you and you
know i'm gonna be super real um with people we want to keep it real all the way through you know
you ask what we're about we're about you that's what we're about you know we're about you we're
about making a difference you know we're about real people we're about real people. We're about real people with real lives. That's what we're about.
We're about pushing the space in a way that hasn't been done before.
You know, Rocket is all about going to the moon and back.
It's about taking up space in a way that you've never been allowed to before.
It's about allowing yourself to be more than you can be so allowing yourself to be vulnerable right in a space and it's also allowing yourself to reach for the moon literally reach for the moon
because we believe you can that's the rocket so we want to be the fuel to you to your rocket we
want to be the fuel to you becoming what you want to be and this is not an advertising this is a
genuine thing so i you know that's if that answers your question that's what
we're about that's what this space is about that's what we've got great guests like mama bear people
that care care about the space man care about the people you know there's so much when you go on
web3 there's so much that's going on right and it's so easy to get lost and when you have um
i'm gonna say point checkpoints of people where you can feel
safe people you can learn people you can grow with it just makes the journey a little bit easy
hence why we can only bring to you the realest of people that we can find so that's what the space
is about that's what the podcast is about any other questions i know mama bear has to go and start a space in a minute so any other questions
yeah i've got a question yes yes yes yes yes go for it mama yes mark thanks for being here mama
bear how are you how are you feeling today um got much respect for mama bear man and and papa
feeling today. Got much respect for Mama Beer, man. And Papa, do you know what I mean? Definitely
bringing that positive energy to Web3, being the realest people that they can be. That's
abundantly clear. But how are you feeling today? Like, you know, outside of everything else,
how are you feeling? You're so kind to always ask that, Martek.
I just adore you too.
I'm good.
I'm a little nervous.
I was actually just messaging Papa.
I'm like, shit, I shouldn't have said this.
I shouldn't have said that.
But again, I'm unapologetically me.
And I think sometimes I really second guess myself and it's a human thing to do. So I guess right now I'm feeling a little
indecisive, but moving forward. I appreciate you asking. Are you doing good today? I'm doing quite
well. And the reason why I ask is like, you know, individuals like yourself, like myself,
and soon to be Rocket, like, you know, definitely a strong voice in web free,
very articulately spoken and all that kind of stuff. And like, you know um definitely a strong voice in web3 um very um articulately spoken and all that
kind of stuff and like you know the way that we we convey our thoughts like in a genuine manner
sometimes it it it has a certain effect on us like you know as you said sometimes you do second
guess yourself sometimes you you know you are very selective
on the words that you put out in the universe because like you know you don't want to be
misinterpreted you don't want to put out the wrong expectations like you know but i'd say because
you know it's a responsibility like what we're doing is public speaking um you know specifically
like you know when we have an audience and stuff like that,
that is such a huge responsibility that I think a lot of people don't really grasp the gravity of it.
Like the power of words can like, you know, evoke actions, they can evoke emotions.
And if we use the wrong words, if we, you know, and create the wrong kind of sentiment,
like, you know, you never know how it can affect somebody that's listening you know um emotionally or like you know just physically or it's a lot it's a lot
so I really really appreciate individuals like yourself like Rocket you're definitely going to
be a huge presence in Web3 because like you know your spoken word is just sacrosanct if i if i put it like that
you know i i try to be you know the same way myself i try not that i'm trying to be perfect
but like you know just being the best person that i can be and um just you know leading by example
i've got a saying like you know great leaders will generate and will create the next generation of
great leaders you know that's the responsibility that we have like you know we have the we have
the power to inspire um other individuals and give them that confidence let them know like yo
you can do this too do you know what i mean it's It's not, it's not about us. It's like, you know, maybe a couple of words, um, that we put out in the universe can empower you to like dig deep
within yourself and say like, you know what, I can do this. Like, you know, let me do this.
That's why I love and appreciate anybody that, that will, you know, has the, the courage,
the grit to open up a space and do this this form of public speaking is very important
um so much love mama beer you know um i don't know the universe brought us together i think
the universe brought all of us together for a reason you know um things happen for a reason
or a season and like you know just being able to you know share mindset with um like-minded individuals i think that's a powerful
thing and and it's very humbling as well i appreciate you all mark you're you're you're
so amazing right now i want to make a caricature of you and keep it in my in my household so i can
look at it and say that's mark being mark but how are you doing today rocky how are
you feeling as well and 100x let me tell you right so and this is how real i am and this is what i
love about meeting real people in web free 100x 100x and i had an amazing face-to-face conversation
the other day when i say an amazing we're on like um i can't remember
who was in google meets or something like one of one of these chat rooms but like yo when i tell
you man bro 100x i got much love for you bro i got much love for you rocket i got much love for
you as well because we had a deep heart-to-heart kind of discussion. And, like, yeah, man, you guys are awesome.
That's all I can say, man.
I'm happy what's going on in both of your lives.
You know what?
I appreciate you.
We appreciate you.
We appreciate you so much.
Not just me, but all of in the Rocketverse,
and you're such an inspiration.
And we need people like you, like Rocket, that we can look up to
so we can work hard every day and, you know, learn from.
Because you guys do have a lot to teach.
I just love you giving love to everyone.
You know, that's, honestly, thank you so much for doing that.
Because, honestly, it's all we need, you know,
in this, not just in this space, but in this world, man.
It's so hard to find people that can show love.
And, you know, the more love you give, the more love you get.
And I think people forget that, you know.
Love has a beautiful way of finding itself like energy does, you know.
You find the people that you're supposed to find and you find the energy and you just got to put yourself out there.
You've got to just start.
You don't have to be perfect.
You don't have to be fully accomplished.
You don't have to be fully fledged.
Sometimes we think if I'm going to do a project, everything has to be.
You know what?
Just do it.
Just do it. Open up your space. Start talking.
You know, whether there's one person listening to you, whether there's 10,000 people listening to you, if you're making a difference to someone, if you've got one person that's listening to you, you've got an audience.
And don't be afraid to just be yourself.
You know, you don't have to be a version of everyone else.
You don't have to be a copy of everyone else you don't have to be a um you know
a copy right you the the original is you you know there's there's nothing better than the original
and i i want to be mindful um of you know the fact that mom mother there has a space um you know
coming up soon and i kind of want to finish this uh section by giving you the floor um to i know there's so much that
you want to say and you've got so much you're going to say to your community and i want to
give you that space um because one thing i do i found you don't you know you don't promote yourself
um the way that i see everyone else you're always promoting somebody else so is there anyone that
you're really impressed with is there anything that you've been seeing lately that you think okay you know it's worth it's worth having a look at
is there anything that you want to put out there to the people
another deep breath i'm telling you um i've had quite an adventure and an experience in web 3
like we all have, right?
Our journeys take us to different places, which take us to different PFPs, to different communities, to different chains.
And I would say that I think, no, I know that I have finally found my group of people.
And that is the huge shout out to the Green Pill Collective, right?
Rick Starr, the Mad Queen.
I mean, there's so many amazing people over there.
And to me, that's where I belong.
I don't have a project myself, but I'm definitely a person who just likes to lift people up.
But one thing I can say on my journey in Web3 is I have been a part of a lot of really unfortunate situations.
A lot of shitty things have happened.
And you can't fake the funk, you guys.
You can't. I don't care if you are putting out there that you're all about your community and be mindful and love and flowers.
be mindful and love and flowers and you can't fake the funk. So I think that that's what I
And you can't fake the funk.
appreciate about the Green Pill Collective is that all of the projects there are vetted and
they're continually vetted and they're continually safe. And I think that when we want to bring new
money and new people and normies into this space, we need to provide a couple things.
First of all, we need to give grace. When I see people out here
going off on somebody, mass reporting, blocking, because they put a PFP on, because they right
clicked and saved, maybe that person doesn't know anything about Web3. Maybe that person doesn't
know proper etiquette. So that is our responsibility to teach people these types of things and to bring them in
and have kindness and grace for them. The second thing I would say is I've been wrecked on a lot
of projects. We all have, right? We call it our licks, right? We paid our dues out on these
streets. But how great would it be if we had a safe place to go where you know that the projects that you engage with already have that green light,
right? That green check that there's a team behind the Green Pill Collective that are
continuously making sure that the T's are crossed and the I's are dotted, right? So for me, that's
huge. Them providing tools, lifting each other up. When we have our spaces,
everybody's welcome. I don't give a shit if you have beef, don't have beef. And I tell everybody
before they come to my space, set your reminders and your intentions. Intentions matter. And before
you decide to come up on my space, get your shit in check because I'm not going to put up with it and your energy negativity is not, you know, it's not warranted.
It's not accepted.
If you have a good intention and you want to talk about something, let's do it.
But I'm just about being an adult.
I really am.
If you have a problem with me, if there's something to be discussed, let's talk about it.
But as soon as I see that negative toxicity, you will no longer be in my presence.
I will no longer be in yours.
We'll easily get out of each other's algorithm.
So, yeah, that's what I would say.
That's who I represent here.
That's who I lift up in this space is definitely the Green Pearl Collective.
I love that.
Thank you for just giving us the raw truth.
And you're right, there's no space for negativity.
There's no point in engaging with people if you're going to be negative.
Just you can avoid them.
Talking about shouting out some people, this morning we were in a space and one of our
members, Moesha, actually was hosting a space and she's on her fourth, in her fourth episode.
And this morning when we were talking, they were asking actually about, you know, about the space that we were going to do.
And I remember, you know, it was quite early in the morning, very, very early in the morning.
I remember saying, you know, I was going to take a screenshot of, you know, the few people that were there at the start.
And I was going to give them a quick shout out.
So just throwing some love to people that have been showing,
you know, amazing support from this morning as well.
Mayusha, 100X, you know, Aphrodisi, just Mark, I think,
Coco, Bahu, Navy, Neo, Hamid, and Crown, cram and you know and sean as well guys thank you guys for you know
for um what you were doing this morning it was just so great it was just teaching people you
know the the how to just get started teaching people um you know how to get involved and not
knowing and really taking the time to do that you know i really do believe that the guardians and i know and i'll keep using that word until you know it's uh it's no longer just a you know a word we're
using word free but being a guardian of space you know safe spaces we want to say you know thank you
to you guys for being guardians and anyone that's listening that is got projects that is looking to
make a difference in this world and that's looking to grow themselves
um we're behind you and we're you know we're following you guys there um we do want to um
come to you know the final space um that you know we're going to take one more question from enza
because enza has been always been amazing um answer final final question and i know mama bear has a space she has to go on so answer answer
final question hi it's not actually a question i just want to say i love mama better bits and i
think she's a wonderful personality on this web3 space and i think she deserves all the respect
from everybody um i don't know how anybody could even say anything or word against her.
She was so good to me.
She's helped me because I've had PTSD.
I don't like to talk about it.
But Mama Bear is the one that I could actually, I could open up to Mama Bear.
And she's just like that.
She's like, I feel like giving her a cuddle.
And I can't do it.
She's so far away but
i just wanted to say i just love your mama bear and um i just think you're wonderful so god bless
you and uh you're always in my prayers and that's all i wanted to say rocky um so you're the best i
love you too honey that's a that what a wonderful way for us to come to a close because I want to leave with that sentiment.
Thank you. Just before we close, I want to say
hello to Crypto Stoner. He's one of the
founders of the Green Pill Collective.
Shout out to Crypto Stoner.
Yo, shout out to
for today
what an amazing space mama bear
I just nothing but love for you
and papa bear always you guys are
two of the most amazing star seeds
I've seen on this earth it's a pleasure
to be here doing work with you guys
so you know it
just I do have to say one thing,
Papa Bear, we're going to need you to get a cow. So I'm just putting seconds for that real quick,
just to keep that on the docket. But no, it amazing rocket, which you have been doing here
today too, with the space, Anza, you're always just an amazing soul. And I love that you and
Mama Bear are able to chat with each other and have that safety in place to be able to share together.
It's massive.
And Rocket, you know, I've been researching.
I was looking, been watching and looking and been a part of, I've been watching the timeline and, you know,
looking at what you've been doing on the website and teaching people about crypto and bringing knowledge into this space to help others. And with that, you
know, also the Green Pill Collective would love to have you as a part of our community, as a part of
our collective and group so that we can help to, you know, spread that awareness, spread that
knowledge, because that's huge for me. I do a
lot of studying on economics and money, liquidity. So, you know, I love what you're doing too. And I
love that you were able to set this up for Mama Bear today. So, you know, if you'd love to be with
us, we'd love to have you. The answer is yes, yes, yes, yes. And thank you, thank you, thank you.
That's the answer. And, you know i will um double tap on that sentiment
can we make it two cows please two please they need friends we can't just have one cow we don't
just want a lonely cow two cows puffer bear if you if you want me i will buy the cow for you
um just let me know i'll send the wallet whatever'll buy the cow. I'm offering to buy the cow.
So there's no excuse.
Let's get a cow.
That's going to be the biggest thing on the John Latron.
The cows, cows.
We should just do cows with no context
and see if anyone gets it.
You have to be here to get it.
I know I said last question,
but I feel like if I don't have this person,
I'm doing a community of disservice.
You know, Moesha has always been a great supporter
and she is such a big fan of Mama Bear.
She was screaming from the rooftop today,
actually letting people know.
And she's been putting reminders and reminders Moisha I will
take this one last question I am sorry I have to do it I'm sorry mama bear I know you've got places
to be but I have to do it because it's Moisha and she's one of our you know amazing community
members and you know we're here for the community so Mo, Marisa, the floor is yours. How are you?
Okay, okay.
Thank you so much, Raka.
Thank you, 100X.
Thank you, guys.
You guys are awesome.
You guys are amazing.
I'm so sorry.
My network was kind of playing a hat trick on me because I was actually here and I went off.
I wasn't hearing clearly.
I have to go off and then come back again and
unfortunately it's almost over but anyway i just want to say i just want to show my appreciation
to you mama bear for coming here i think i was here for a couple of um minutes i really heard
from the beginning of the conversation that you are having and it was very impactful um
nice words from you and um i love what you're doing keep doing you know we have been together
for a very long time i'm a bear with papa bear you guys are my mama and papa so yeah i appreciate
you and um today was very impactful and uh yeah i just for a reminder i hosted a morning engagement space because i do
that every day every morning so i was like trying to get people set their reminders to be here and
i'm glad a lot of people that uh were like i'll be here and they're they're most of them are here
and i'm so amazed and thank you so much, Rocket, for hosting this amazing podcast with Andre Dex alongside.
You guys are doing amazing.
You guys are doing the most.
Thank each and every one of you for being here.
It's absolutely a blessing.
It's a beautiful day already together with Mama Bear.
And I can see Papa Bear right there.
And I can see a legend, Pop.
Pop is also here.
Wow, that's absolutely huge so yeah
you guys are awesome thank you so much for having me up here i don't want to say much because mama
bear has somewhere else to go just want to show my appreciation for her being here and um super
grateful for the space today and thank you so much for wishing me the honor thank you 100 thank you guys thank you
so much for that we want to finish mama bear we are going to ask you we asked all our guests to
do this um we would love for you to write two questions for our next guest we're not going to
reveal who they are yet um as we'd like to keep it you know a little bit of mystery as well so um
we would love for you to write two
questions that you'd like to ask the next guest how it works you write it um you send you send a
dm and then we will reveal that too um guys once again we want to thank you all the believers
all the listeners all the caregivers caretakers all the dreamers all the lovers all the people who believe
in themselves who believe in other people all the people that need to believe in themselves
um to all you out there from every corner and every space of the world we want to thank you
once again for another episode of is it rocket science
is it rocket science it's not when you've got great people like mama bear thank you so much
mama bear guys go and follow on all on everything if you're not already um you're doing yourself a
disservice thank you mark tech for for you know for being a part thank you crypto stoner and we
will take that invitation.
What we will do,
that's going to be a little bit interesting.
Hopefully Mama Bear does give us that song that we've still been waiting for.
She'll drop it,
hopefully, in one of her spaces.
And Papa Bear,
please get a cow.
We want to see what the name is.
Guys, thank you so much.
It's been Rocket Science.
We love you all guys
stay safe and keep learning keep growing don't hold yourself back the world is yours
thank you so much guys just one last thing mama's base space is pinned on top
so if you haven't already it starts in in 14 minutes. And by that note, we will finish today.
All they talk about is the network.
I be putting time in my network.
It's my network.
It's my network.
My network.
It's me.
