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Okay, I think that's good. So hey everyone, I hope you're all well. Welcome to our Twitter space today. Well, we'll be discussing the current state of scaling solutions and rollups in particular.
particular and where Miner sort of sits in this conversation. Happy to be joined by Dylan Kugler who works with me at Miner Foundation and Florian Kugler from O1 Labs who spent
a great day of time working on the EK Fusion, a modular ZK roll up for Mina, and who is probably better placed than pretty much anyone to be talking about this topic as it relates to Mina. So thanks guys for joining today.
Yeah, so myself and Dylan put out a blog piece yesterday on the MENA website discussing this topic and we're hoping to fill in some of the gaps that will inevitably accompany an article on sort of this deeper topic. We'll be looking to produce more blogs over the upcoming months in different areas.
so that people can better understand meaners relevant to these narratives and whenever possible we look to accompany these blogs with the Twitter space with sort of relevant guests from the meaner ecosystem. Please ask any questions that you may have throughout the space.
in our discord or as a reply on Twitter and we'll try and address them at the end of the talk. So let's get into it. So guys, I feel pretty old because I still remember the days where we used to hear about sort of plasma, state channels,
chains and these kind of things has been the primary scathing solutions. What has happened in your view in the landscape over the past few years to kind of get us to where we are right now, where there seems to be a strong consensus forming that a roll-up future is the main direction we're heading in.
What do you think about that? Yeah, it's a great question Honestly, I'm excited to be able to chat about this. It's pressing an exciting topic. So I think to start it would be good to understand what a roll-up actually is so roll-ups are in off-chain scaling so
that executes transactions outside of the core layer one. So in a rollup, many transactions are batched off chain and summarized into a single block that is estimated to the layer one. By posting a single transaction consisting of a large number of off chain transactions for the main network,
The other two options are the Unreline L1.
own considerations and trade-offs for throughput, cost, security, scalability, and many other different options. But it's really just become community consensus that roll-ups are ideal because they provide a secure, efficient way to scale without sacrificing the centralization of the L1.
Yeah, I'd be interested to sort of hear what you think as well, Flaring on this side. But why do you think we've got to this stage? What got you interested in in in roll-ups and sort of why do you think the general sort of crypto ecosystem is kind of right around?
Yeah, so like you already mentioned Dylan, there are a couple of sort of like other scaling solutions like side channels, Blasma, state channels, whatever, but road ups for me, especially, and pretty much only CK road ups are like something
Very sophisticated and like beautiful and how they are so they constructed and they're not only beautiful in a sense like you know like they rely on awesome cryptography and math and And also engineering but they are also a real solution to scaling really inefficient block