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Sanctum Forecast #27
Recorded: April 2, 2026 Duration: 0:40:04Space Recording
Full Transcription
I'm going to go to the next video. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, clouds of all ages, welcome to the Sanctum forecast.
I'm not quite so sure whether or not my signal is lagging here, so I am a little concerned
here, but we shall see.
Nick, give me a thumbs up if I'm okay on the connection.
We good?
All right, it's thumbs up if i'm okay on the connection we good all right it's thumbs up wonderful wonderful
okay so welcome to the 27th sanctum forecast we have a very special one for you here today
but of course we have to go through a few housekeeping items my name is eno i'm the chief
vibes officer over at sanctum and why are we here course, it's to talk all about the Sanctosphere. And the Sanctosphere
includes the most bullish news about the most delightful products, all shared with the most
earnest cloud fam. I see that we have a lot of OGs in the chat. So it's very good to see you folks.
And for today's agenda, Giancarlo, always good to see you. You know, we always say that we like to celebrate here together as one big family.
But I think one thing that I'd like to say, just given what's happened over the last 24 hours, is, you know, we've had a pretty major event on Solana and the repercussions of, you know, of Drift's situation remains to be seen.
Our heart goes out, of course, to the Drift team.
Everyone over at Sanctum is obviously, you know, we work very closely with Drift,
and it seems like, you know, they've unfortunately been a victim of a very sophisticated attack.
And so also our community members out there, we hope that you're doing well as well.
So our heart goes out over to Drift as well as anybody who's been affected by that situation.
But moving on, of course, we are continuing to ship over at Sanctum lots of brand new, exciting products.
And so some of the house rules for today, of course, we want you to keep the chat active.
Number two, we want you to think long term, short term, obviously, there's a lot of stuff
and kerfuffery that goes around.
Three, you know, we could always do with more thoughtfulness and kindness, especially in
this space.
It can be quite rough.
And last but not least, if you're not having a good time, why are you here?
Right. We're here because ideally we enjoy and love the work that we do.
And of course, we want to share with you all of this work that we're so excited about. So today's agenda, of course, we're going to be covering number one, some
of the greatest, most delightful product updates over at Sanctum during
lightning strike. Number two, we have a big warm welcome with a very special guest.
I'm very glad that he was able to make some time today to speak to everyone here.
And last but not least is what to expect going forward.
So without any further ado, we have a very special video for you.
Nick, play that clip.
What if crypto wasn't stressful or demanding?
What if it was delightful?
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Start earning up to 8% APY on your soul.
Introduce yourself to Albus
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and look forward to more exclusive rewards
coming soon.
I'm sure you folks have heard me screaming
about this on the Solana ecosystem call, but we now
have the Sanctum app on the Seeker. This is something that the whole team has been very,
very excited about grinding on all the characters. And I'd like to bring onto the stage the man that
has been spearheading this entire effort. But of course, it is a team effort. I'm bringing you onto the stage, FP.
How are you, my man?
Hello.
Oh, wow.
That was so nice.
It was so cute.
Yeah.
Yes.
Very, very difficult.
Yeah.
It's you've obviously had your heads down working
on this project for a very, very long time.
I'd love to just before we get into the nitty gritty of it,
just tell us how you're feeling.
What are you feeling about the app right now?
Are you excited?
Like just want to get some of the emotions in the room.
Yeah, I feel great.
I feel fantastic, actually.
I'm so proud of the team.
And when I opened the app,
it just puts a smile on my face, really.
I mean, those who know ogs will know that
we wanted to do like a superman for like a long time like since 2024 uh but like the time just
wasn't right like internally and uh yeah you know and now kind of like one and a half years later
we're finally out and i'm just so happy because i i just am so excited about like for me it's like
very very excited to bring crypto like to the masses right
In a non degenerate way and I think the video just sums it up, right?
Like what if crypto is less stressful more than like I love that
Yeah, so it's a very very very very pleased and excited to get this app out
And I of course I tell the team like the app is today is like the worst it will ever be
It's shitty, right? I mean, it's not quite shitty,
but it's not up to the standards that I would like, right? You know, as nothing ever is, to be
honest. But, you know, it's the worst that it will ever be, and it will get better from here.
So I'm very, very happy, very proud, very excited to keep building on this app.
Yeah. Yeah. Some context for our audience here. Whenever you talk to FP and you ask them questions like,
what really gets you excited for the future?
It's really the consumer application side, right?
And that's where, I mean, if you look at the value stack as well,
we have this internal graph that we use about in Sanctum
where we like to capture value along the stack.
And the holy grail is consumer, right?
It's having that direct connection and owning that bit.
But admittedly, that's the hardest part now is consumer right it's it's having that direct connection and owning that bit but uh admittedly that's that's the hardest part now isn't it uh fp yeah uh i mean so you know
to be clear right like the rest of the business like the b2b side like absolutely that's profitable
and we'll continue to grow it right but i think what really kind of like brought me into the space
right and like you know how we did sort of like, you know, Wonderland in 2024, all of that is coming from a deep desire
to delight the user and build something that's delightful,
and when you do institutional sales, as you know,
you know, you don't quite get the same feeling, you know?
And so like the Sanctum app is really something that is,
close to my heart personally.
Yeah. And so they are very excited to have it on
and to keep improving personally. Yeah, and so they are very excited to have it on and to keep improving it.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Sorry.
Looks like my internet is a little slow.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, a little bit.
Okay, perfect.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, of course.
So we want to talk about what the default crypto app experiences.
Right. So number one, lots of speculative trading
followed by leverage, arguably that we were in a great depression
right now with retail because they've lost so much of their money on leverage
and of course gambling. Right.
So this this
remains to be seen how people feel about Polymarket.
Is that just gambling or is it really a different way to predict outcomes as a society?
I don't know. But like obviously, like this is the default crypto app trading experience.
And what we're doing over with Sanctum app is completely different.
Right. So maybe you can walk us through each of these pillars.
So number one would be, of course, delightfulness, right?
It's like a core tenant of the products that we build.
Yeah. So, you know, again, when we think about like how we design, you know, the app, right?
We kind of use this word all the time, like delight, delight, delight. What does it mean?
You know, why is it important to delight users? I think, you know, what does it mean, right? For us,
I think it's like joy, right?
It's like when you open the app and something kind of like viscerally
like makes you feel like, ah, like, ooh, you know, and you smile and you're happy.
That's kind of like the feeling that we're trying to kind of give with the app.
Because I feel like you've got so much negativity, like the space and the Twitter and the world, right?
And it's just open, it's like, ah, fuck, this person got hacked and I lost money.
We don't want that to be the primary emotion.
We want you to feel like delight.
And of course, we cannot control whether the price goes up and down, but what we can control
is our mindset, how we think about this.
If you're bullish on something long term, you shouldn't let the short term stuff shake
you out.
And how we design, for example, putting Elvis front and center everywhere, we think he's
very cute.
And this, again, brings a delight to people.
Internally, some companies talk about daily active users, monthly active users.
Internally our North Star is how many delighted active users, so how many people really enjoy the app and have a smile on their face?
So that's super, super important.
It's like the number one design principle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also simplicity is another key because our industry is plenty complex enough.
I mean, like, I'm not so sure if I can explain signing signatures to my mother.
But yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think this one's pretty self-explanatory.
I mean, obviously, many of you guys come from DeFi,
you're DeFi natives, right?
I mean, even, it's like, it's crazy, right?
It's like, okay, like, staking, like, liquid staking LSTs
and then JLP and leverage multipliers, like, oh, my God,
like, what the hell is this, you know?
And then you have, like, the tokens with, like, seven letters
in the USD dash, blah, blah, blah, dash, blah, blah, blah, it's like, you
know, it's very complicated, right. And I mean, you know, to each their own, right.
I mean, I think there's definitely time and place for this health complexity. But I think
for most people, in order to have good financial life, good financial, like, you know, hygiene,
you don't need all this complicated things. Really, what you need to do is very simple
philosophy, right, you buy good assets, and you hold them for the long term, right?
And so there is some complexity related to blockchain, right?
To staking everything.
We try to abstract all of this away from Sanctum app, right?
So you idea, you deposit the soul, you get a soul every day, right?
And then, you know, you don't need to know liquid staking, whatever, you know,
you don't need to know any of this, right?
We just, you know, it's just the money is working for you that's idea yeah right i mean it's it's staking done from first principles of
like how would you redesign staking for like anybody right um and that's what somebody would
expect they would expect their yield like what's an epoch i don't give a shit about that like i
want my yield now um and we're able to do that now um and of course we want it to be meaningful
right to go beyond just like ah this is just like another place where i can gamble my uh my life savings away
yes yes i i i i really find that this is you know why why are we here right i think we are here
because we want to build you know something meaningful right something that makes people's
lives better right and you know without sort of casting shade, I feel like the industry a little bit is optimizing
for like what is getting people hooked and getting people to trade lots of money and pay
a lot of money in trading fees and this and that.
That's that's not meaningful to me.
I think what we are here to do is we, you know, try to make people better off.
Right.
And yeah, so this is why we are trying to build the app
in different way, right?
To make, just make sure that when people enter the app
and when people exit the app, right,
they are better off than when they started, right?
Rather than like, you know,
they are gambling their paycheck every week on the same.
That was the point.
Yeah.
Yeah, right, right.
So getting into that point,
we want to encourage healthy long-term financial habits, which is, by the way, I mean, we're so skewed in the other direction just because of the echo chamber that we find ourselves in.
But most normal people are like this, right? Like most normal people are not like, you know, participating in meme coin launches or like try even trying to find new financial
opportunities. They're just looking to set it, forget it, find something that's quality
and like have it grow with them into their retirement. Right. Like that's what most normal
people are like. And so we'd like to help most normal people as opposed to some of us
that want to make a thousand X on a shitter.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I resonate very much with this.
I think this is how we conduct our own financial affairs.
And we want to bring that to the rest.
I mean, of course, you know, the app is with as well, starting with as well.
And, you know, we we have been here on Solana for five years now.
Right.
We wouldn't be here.
We didn't believe in the asset.
I've seen, you know, we've been around for an ecosystem.
We've seen the phenomenal growth of Solana, right?
And we think that Solana is an asset
that you can hold for the long-term.
And that's kind of why we're starting with Solana.
Yeah.
Right.
And also we want to make holding quality assets fun.
So I don't know how much you're willing
or able to share around this, but yeah, there are a few assets that we would be able to say,
like, yeah, this is a quality asset.
We know the founders, or we know how this is tokenized.
Yeah, is there anything you can share around here?
Yeah, the short term, I mean,
obviously we're starting with youth also,
because that's what Sanctum is really good at providing,
youth on Savannah, right?
We are the top liquid seeking protocol. But we definitely see this app as going beyond Solana.
Which assets we will all bought, obviously depend, but we really want to think about not letting you
trade all the tokens all the time, but rather like, here's how we think is the right way
to think about a token, right?
And here's how we think is the right way
to value a token and hold a token.
And then here's the short, very short list of tokens
we think that, you know, meet this bar.
And so it kind of like,
that's a very opinionated kind of look at, you know,
ecosystem.
So that's something we're also doing differently as well.
Yeah.
Right, right.
And I think that's a really nice introduction
into some other features with the application.
So this is Albus, our very lovely mascot.
You're wearing the Sanctum shirt right now, aren't you?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, you got Albus over there too, right?
If I'm not mistaken, it was like over 100 different iterations
to get to Alvis and all made with circles, by the way,
which is kind of nuts.
But anyway, that's a story for another time.
You can earn daily rewards from your first deposit
and you can accumulate XP.
And we have a very exciting campaign designed around this.
I'm not so sure I want to spoil it
but is there anything you want to say here FP
before we keep rolling?
No, it's good.
Okay, cool.
And so we also have a letter
that FP has written
if you haven't had a chance to read it
please scan this QR code here
is there anything you want to share about that letter
or any context you want to share around it? It's a letter that I wrote from the heart about the Seeker users because,
as we know, we're launching on the Seeker first. I'm a big fan of the Seeker, this whole Solana
mobile, and very soon we'll talk about that. Yeah, and I think the Sanctum app is a great way for us
to kind of express really how
we feel about this industry
and also like for
the people who buy Seeker, right, and
believe in this vision, we really want to support
them as well.
Yeah. All right. Well, without further ado,
Nick, play that clip. everybody's getting down everybody's like wow that's right everybody seeker season is now live
um and to tell you all about seeker season of course we have a very big warm welcome with the man the myth the legend magellan what's good my
man how are you what's up how's it going thanks a lot for having me super pumped to be here nice
to see you you know and fp and of course all the sanctum fans and maybe some seekers as well in the
audience yeah i mean magellan is a man who needs no introduction.
He's been in the Solana ecosystem literally forever.
OG Mountain Dow was working at Foundation for the longest time
and is now doing the Lord's work over with the Solana mobile team,
of course, staying within the Sanctum family.
Yeah, I mean, like, before we get into it, man, like, how's life?
How are you doing?
How's the Seeker team?
Doing well, man.
Yeah, we're working hard.
Life is good.
Family's healthy.
Can't ask for much more than that.
It's grateful.
But, yeah, Seeker team's doing well.
We're trying to balance right now, like,
really delivering value for seeker users and expanding our bd efforts to try to get the solana mobile stack on other phones so that's like something we're really pumped about i think it
could be a big value add for folks in the background um you know who maybe aren't even
secret users yet maybe just like solana defy users sanctum users you know people who maybe aren't even secret users yet, maybe just like Solana DeFi users,
Sanctum users, you know, people who love Solana. So I think that'll be, could be something cool.
But yes, teams doing well, continuing to ship. And yeah, definitely yesterday was tough. Obviously,
I just started the show with, you know, with Drift, you know, but definitely, you know,
there for them, it's cool to see the ecosystem show up a bit. And, you know, as Solana always does, we'll get through it together.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
It's definitely been a rough 24 hours.
But at the same time, you know, it is a family.
And as a part of, you know, succeeding together,
obviously it makes a lot of sense for Sanctum to launch the application first on the Seeker.
And so maybe we can just start with that.
Why on Seeker, right?
Like, why would we launch on Seeker as opposed to anywhere else?
FP Magellan, I'll leave it up to you.
But Magellan, for your answer, I definitely want to hear, you know, what are the advantages
of launching on Seeker versus any, you know, let's say the duopoly.
Yeah, sure.
I'm happy to get into it.
Yeah, this is my job after chief phone salesman,
totally, of course.
I would say, yeah, for us,
we have a really strong group of power users.
So for developers looking to bootstrap an app,
we see kind of like two flavors.
One is you want to expand your user base.
Another is like kind of like sanctum.
So it's like, okay, we want to start off with a smaller, more curated power user base.
Let's see how they use the app.
Let folks break it, like test this mobile experience, get some feedback from users and really iterate from there.
So I view it as this kind of like power iteration machine for product market fit.
So especially if you may be expanding to Android for the first time, it's a great playground for that.
We love our secret users.
We have over, I think, 115,000 activated devices and over 150,000 sold.
And so you have this core group of a lot of users
that is just ready to try your app.
And I think as of early March,
I have to double check because it's always changing,
but it's been over 6 billion volume on Just Seeker,
which is pretty amazing because you don't want to have
your life savings on there.
I can't go that far.
But people are using this uh using this um getting
excited about different apps i'm trying and discovering new things and it's really a
delightful experience for users as well um and um to your second point like the the duopoly point um
for developers like you know you're going through less of this red tape um that you go through with crypto apps on the dApp store or not the dApp
store on the Play Store and Apple store. So you're not getting taxed 30% as well on top of that. And
so, you know, don't pay the 30% tax to Google and Apple. I don't know if they need that. They might
disagree with me, but we're happy to keep that in the ecosystem
and yeah get rid of that red tape and and just ship um but yeah if you want to expand on that
i mean how your experience was happy to have you jump in oh yeah um i i'm so happy that we launched
on on seeker right i'm very very happy i mean first of all like like you know narratively we're
so aligned i mean like i think the world is right for like a small mobile and like a mobile phone that is like, you know, with it has kind of like, you know, a crypto wallet built in.
Right. I think it's like super, super critical because I think that crypto is for everyone.
Right. It's going to take over the world.
And so we need a device that treats that as a first class citizen.
So we're super aligned there.
And then the second thing is that, you know, the Seeker team just been fantastic. We're very responsive. We have a proposal with
a, hey, we have this last final build, we're updating, can you guys please get it approved?
And everyone's like, yeah, absolutely no problem. So very, very grateful. And then that launch,
it was just very smooth, nothing went wrong, everything went out.
So that's the best part.
A good launch is a launch where it's boring.
And it was a very boring launch.
I mean, it was very exciting, but it was a very boring launch.
And that was fantastic.
So 10 out of 10.
I would recommend all teams launch on Sinker.
And that kind of gets us into the Dapp dap store's advantage and magellan already
covered this a little bit but you don't have to pay the troll toll to the troll right so the
30 40 percent you can keep it to yourself um uh and you know how's the sanctum at performing so
far i mean it's been a boring launch but boring in the sense that no nasty surprises, only good numbers rolling in.
A little birdie told me that we have a few thousand users so far. Is that true, FB?
Yeah. So from what I can see, the numbers also change day by day. We have over 6,000 signups,
and we have over a million dollars in over six thousand signups and we have like over a
million dollars in the app which is like it's like crazy to me um you know uh yeah so yeah you know
you know the app you know the app is very early beta you may lose all your money so please don't
put your life savings in there whatever i i really do mean that um uh but yeah you know nonetheless
it's it's very heartening um to see kind of like a lot of people trusting us.
And, you know, we're not going to take that very lightly.
But yeah, the launch went as well as it could.
Better than what we expected personally.
And, you know, even since then we've had really steady input of users coming, giving us feedback.
And, you know, some of them are saying I hate it, which is good.
We also want to hear this and some people are saying we love it and you know that's also good to hear
uh yeah it's been great yeah yeah yeah i'm super stoked to hear that and um yeah honestly like
sanctum's been crushing it um it's actually it's even higher than fp was saying um in the past
couple days it spiked up a bit so we're up to 12.8k installs like total
for sanctum and it's uh it's a top five um app right now in the dap store obviously like we
usually see these spikes like to be candid around like secreties and teams so um teams that you
know we're helping push and get distribution that's like what we want to do too is um
something like we try to give at least right now where we can it won't last forever um so launch uh you know launch soon um launch now in the bear where it's uh you know you
can really go after this group of users with all you have and we can really help you with you know
helping with launch helping get your distribution from a marketing perspective um from the carousel
placement in the store so yeah sanctum's been doing awesome we love to have alvis on there and i think like weirdly like alvis and i think the
principles of sanctum kind of align with um you know like sauna mobile we want to deliver this
delightful you know consumer experience and um so i think there's a lot of alignment there naturally
yeah um what what what kind of strikes me is that I remember seeing this totally tweet as like, look, you can find your first 10,000 users on Seeker. And that's absolutely true here. We got like 12.8,000 installs. Now, the real question is like, is the app any good? Right? Because like, you can certainly get 12,000 installs, but like, do people stay is a big question. question. And so that's a puzzle that we're constantly working through.
But can say with confidence that if you want a shot,
the Seeker ecosystem is a great place for you to get started.
And then it's really just based on the merit of your own ideas and what you built.
Yes, that's on us, right?
To get the 12,800 installs, okay, the Seeker team can help.
And then to keep these users, that's on us, right? To get the 12,800 installs, okay, the Seeker team can help.
And then to keep these users, that's on us, right?
So, yeah.
Yes, correct.
Correct.
Okay, well, that's actually some really delightful news.
I wasn't expecting to get that live on the stream, but do appreciate that.
And, you know, Magellan was alluding to this earlier, but we are one of these so-called
Seeker Season teams.
We have a very well-designed campaign for y'all.
We talked about it earlier, which is that you can start earning experience points as soon as you start making your first deposit.
So those folks that have put in a million dollars collectively into the Sanctum app are obviously going to be eligible for Seeker Season.
So tell the people a little bit more about Seeker Season, FB.
Oh, yeah.
So the Seeker Season is something that, you know, we really put some time in designing.
And the idea really is to kind of just make the experience of holding Solana in the app more delightful.
Now, I think, like, broadly speaking, there are kind of like two ways to retain users.
One is that you throw money at them, and then the second way is that you deliver a really
delightful experience.
And we prefer to go to the second one because we are not in the habit of throwing money
at people. So Seeker Season, what it's about,
it's really trying to make,
the idea is to make holding as fun as trading.
And so as you hold Solana in the app,
you're gaining experience,
and these experiences are unlocking cosmetic items.
So at the moment, we are doing this idea called
a world tour where Elvis right now in the app,
it's on just a blue background. And as you unlock the backgrounds, as you unlock Deposit Soul,
you're going to unlock backgrounds, which are locations, and then Elvis will travel to these
locations. It's purely cosmetic, but the idea is that we want to give people something that is delightful.
And the city that you live in might be featured in one of these backgrounds.
So I won't spoil the surprise, but we have locations from all over the world, including a very Solana-aligned location.
And then those who understand where Solana's name comes from will understand.
So just giving a delightful experience.
Of course, we are not expecting people to deposit for no reason.
So we're also giving a promotional rate of 8% on your soul.
And that's not something you're going to get anywhere else.
It's a promotional rate and it's a marketing expense on our site, but we're very happy to give this to exclusively to
the Seeker users. Yeah. Yeah. Magellan, I mean, I hope you've also enjoyed collaborating with us.
How's it been on your side? Yeah, it's been awesome. Like I said,
we're super grateful to have you. And yes, see some of those exclusive experiences for Seekers.
Obviously, the app itself being the big one.
And so, yeah, it's been awesome.
And just to also speak to Seeker season more broadly, you know, something we've been doing now.
This is the second Seeker season.
So we're basically trying to highlight an app every week we had really successful one um season one
which eventually you know culminated in the launch of our token skr and now we want to continue that
there's still a ton of new apps that we want to show love get in front of users have these awesome
experiences and exclusives um some of the apps this season you know along with sanctum we've had
Some of the apps this season, along with Sanctum, we've had everything from different games, like Magic Block launched a game.
This is called Colony, where you can kind of collect resources.
Flash Trade for Perps, where users got $10 to trade for free, like the first 1,000 seekers that signed up.
We've also had Orb, like Mert's fun little explorer project and he's got i think like three
other projects since then so he's going wild shipping so yeah we're really grateful um for
all these teams um that are shipped so whether you're looking for like defy something like really
delightful and simple like you know sanctum's awesome experience to get yield we've got something
for you so we'll'll have more this season.
It'll probably run into the summer.
So plenty of time to still get involved if you're not a seeker yet.
But yeah, Sankner's been awesome.
Like you guys have been super responsive.
You're having me on here, letting me be a phone salesman.
So grateful for that.
And yeah, we hope to see the app continue to evolve as well.
And also hope it can be a springboard for you guys to eventually launch on the Play Store and the App Store more broadly.
Yeah, I was really bearish on the secret first.
What was the first version of it?
It was the saga.
The saga, right.
The saga.
The phone quality was a potato.
I appreciate the honesty.
It's okay.
Let us have it.
And so I got into a few debates with Tully about whether or not a third-party manufacturer
could ever crack the duopoly and what is your supply chain going to look like?
And don't get me wrong,
those are all legitimate questions.
But at the same time,
having an on-chain first experience
with a security element that's dedicated
just to storing the keys,
I mean, this is all table stakes.
And it's important, I think,
to have those features on a phone and someone has to do it.
And so wild swings only, right?
Bold moves only.
When can we get...
Do you know if Tully has used the Sanctum app?
I did not, but I can certainly show him in his DMs.
So I will try to get on his radar.
I want to shoot a Tully Sanctum app commercial.
That would be amazing. I would try to get it on his radar. I want to shoot a totally Sanctum app commercial. That would be amazing. I would love it.
Yeah, I'll shoot him
a DM and see, try and get him.
I'm sure I cannot imagine
his notifications, but yes, I would try to get
in front of him. A commercial would be amazing.
And broadly, I think your
skepticism is totally justified.
I think it's certainly a moonshot.
The first phone
was definitely more of a bit of a brick um and quite a hefty thing and like emmet um you know
our head of sauna mobile who leads the business he always says like hardware sucks like it's really
tough to do the supply chain stuff um yeah it's really hard to get convince people to like, you know, either switch their phone or to get even a second device like, you know, that's a big thing.
I think, you know, we're grateful to the ecosystem, like, you know, definitely caught lightning in a bottle a bit.
But I am really happy with the build of the seeker.
I think, you know, having that delightful experience and we we even now see some of the larger companies
like patenting crypto features like Samsung
and some of the giants.
So I think we're kind of directionally in the right spirit.
It's just a matter of timing.
And yeah, we want Solano to be that default option
as we continue to grow.
But yeah, maybe the path to that
is a little totally sanct Sanctum commercial.
We'll see.
Please don't ask Toli to deposit too much sold
because otherwise we're going to subsidize.
Can you imagine if it's a million sold in there?
It's like, oh no, Toli, we can't pay you.
We can give you 2% on your sold.
No, in all seriousness, I think like, yeah, the first one, like, like, I think this is just proof
that if you just have a product, you know, good idea, you just iterate on it and you get better
and better every generation, right? Like the saga, not great, right? Seeker, very usable phone. Like,
you know, it's, it is my daily driver, actually have you know one phone for work for personal and yeah it's I use it
every single day yeah no for real and I want to buy I would
talk to you after the call buying one for the whole team so we can get them
all on the app and then the last thing is that the one thing I was a still long
way to go right because the number one comment that I get is like,
okay, this app looks great.
When is it coming to iOS?
And these guys are married to their iPhones, right?
Like half my team is on iPhones.
And it's like, okay, long way to go still,
but we will get that.
Nice.
Yeah, I'm super stoked to hear that.
And yeah, I think like, yeah,
there's a lot of people married to the iPhone. Like Apple just has like a massive, massive moat there. I think like when it comes to Android, we have a decent shot. But yeah, let's stand after the call. And yeah, encourage anyone like if you want to give it a shot. Or if you have questions, like reach out to me, the team tag us complain complain tell us how it could get better too um
and yeah when i when i ios um i'm actually like one of the last few remaining android people so
i've got like samsung uh for my for my main um but uh i think um most people yeah they take some
convincing to move over so yeah bring your skepticism and yeah, let's see. I would love to see Sanctum take the lead from here to Play Store and Apple as well.
Yeah, I mean, it goes without saying that anyone who's seen the Seeker and compared to the Saga,
I mean, it's a it's a it's a huge jump in terms of the quality of the phone.
Much lighter batteries, much better.
The camera is great, too. Feels a lot like stock Android, so if you like the Samsung experience,
you're definitely going to like using the Seeker.
That is time, everyone.
Thank you so much for joining today.
FP Magellan, honestly, always a pleasure to speak to you too
and very bullish on both the Seeker as well as the Sanctum app.
We've got a long way to go, gentlemen app we we got a long way to go gentlemen
yes always a long way to go always more to build uh thanks a lot for having me on and yeah fp you
know always great to see you um and yeah if you like i said join the seeker family you can still
get one we've still got some um and if not um yeah let us know what we can improve or convince you to join us so thanks again guys and yeah hope to see you again soon
yeah um and fp you got any closing remarks no um you know thank you everyone for tuning in i'm
really really excited about the app and the launch uh it really does represent you know dream come
true for me so i'm very very happy for everybody yeah
okay awesome well thanks for your time gentlemen um and just closing remarks uh from myself a couple of things that we just some housekeeping items actually um so what to expect going forward
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