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SantaBrowser on Aptos
Recorded: July 1, 2025 Duration: 0:51:30Space Recording
Short Summary
Santa Browser is making waves in the crypto space with its innovative approach to user data ownership and rewards. The upcoming TGE for the Santa token, strategic partnerships with USDT, and a focus on community engagement through prize pools are set to redefine user experiences in Web3.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, NGM, NGM, NGM guys.
I think we're having weather issues across the globe.
It's like really rainy in nigeria and i see places in the
us and um in europe as well having serious heat waves talk about an irony of weather but
yeah it's exciting to be with you guys on another spook space. Pardon my voice.
I personally have a bit of a cold,
but we have to keep the space running.
I mean, the Web3 market doesn't slip.
It's always active.
I guess that's a good thing.
Exciting news across board saying that stocks will be coming on chain.
For a market that actually takes breaks i think that's exciting
exciting for the old web 3 space and amazingly because of flows by panora i think you can
actually buy tesla shares directly from panora i've not tried this out personally. But, yeah, you guys should definitely give it a look.
But now, down to business, guys.
GMGM, once again, please like, retweet the space.
Let's get all our friends and family in here.
Share to your friends and enemies.
We want everybody on space.
We want it to be a conversation.
So if you have questions, please feel free to drop in the
comments and we'll probably have a session where you can come up to ask questions as well um but
yeah while we are sharing the group to our favorite groups and to all our friends and family
i'm going to be playing this spooks theme song pump it up by danzel and i'll be with you guys in a few minutes yeah so for now pump it up
by danzel let's go Don't you know, pump it up. You've got to pump it up. Don't you know, pump it up.
You've got to pump it up.
Don't you know, pump it up.
You've got to pump it up.
Don't you know, pump it up.
You've got to pump it up.
Don't you know, pump it up.
You've got to pump it up.
It's not so long, though.
Let the sound hit the nation.
You've got to pump it the nation Every Saturday night
On your favorite radio
And the party's jumping in
And the vibe feels so strong
Blow your hands in the air
Lift your hand up high
You know you've got to sing along I know your hands in the air, lift your hand up, high.
You know you've got to sing along.
Don't you know, bump it up.
You've got to bump it up.
Don't you know, bump it up.
You've got to bump it up.
Don't you know, bump it up.
You've got to bump it up.
Don't you know, bump it up.
You've got to bump it up.
Let the town hit the nation. You know I'm fed up, you've got to up it up, it's all so low.
Let the sound hit the nation.
Every Saturday night, on your favorite radio.
The party's jumping in, and the vibe feels so strong.
And the vibe feels so strong.
Throw your hands in the air, lift your head up high.
You know you've got to sing along.
Don't you know, pump it up.
You've got to pump it up.
Don't you know, pump it up.
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Don't you know, pump it up. You've got to pump it up. Don't you know, pump it up. Let's go.
Yeah, so kicking it off.
I've been seeing Santa browser on my X timeline for quite a while.
And just talking with Yaa, Y ya mid mentioned that i think there was
a reply quotes from the aptos official account as well somehow i missed that but yeah since i've
looked deeper into santa it has been exciting what you guys are doing and one thing i noticed
is just talking with the team they are very passionate about
like the term decentralization and just bringing back I would say ownership to their users I think
that's a key focus just from my perspective of things till now so we have Santa Browser up here. We also have Just Me, a real Just Me up here as well.
So maybe we could do brief intros before we go into proper questions.
Santa, who is behind the mic today, GM, GM?
Hello, I'm Rick Twick. I do business development and partnerships for Santa Browser. And yeah, I've been part of Santa Browser since 2022 before we had our vanilla launch.
And it's been an exciting time to see what we've been building and where we've started and where we are right now and also where we
look forward to be in the future. Yo, awesome. Nice to meet you, man. Just me.
Yo, good day, everybody. Just me. I'm the community manager at Santa Braza and I joined Santa Braza last month and I would
say the journey is very interesting and I'm proud to be among the team.
So yeah, we look forward to today's discussion.
We look forward to how we can actually share insights and get value from each other.
sharing sites and you know give value from each other. So yeah, our support
that's actually our telegram group is actually on the Jumbotron on the space
and please do want to join. I'll say that's the fastest we can reach out to
the team at Santa Braza if you have any you know question if you have any
features you'd love to see on santa
braza you know i'll just see the fastest way to communicate with us at santa braza so you do
want to join and also um there's a price pool also if you see on the jumbotron compose a price pool
of 30 apples to the most active participants you know people who ask questions yeah like we said
we just um want to distribute this because it's up to us and you know we people who ask questions. Yeah, like I said, we just wanted to distribute this
because it's Aptos and, you know,
we have to do it for the ecosystem.
So actually put Aptos in the pocket of everybody.
And, you know, to also support those who are trying
to get your pin rewards and stuff like that,
you know, this might also be an opportunity,
your first Aptos server.
And, you know, since you started since you started on the app since
you started on um since started your journey on the app to circle system i'm sorry so yeah um like
i said we are rewarding these participants we'll surely um have rooms for you have the opportunity
to come up here to come and speak you know give you room to ask questions give you room to pass with in discussions and um you know in transfer hours or more who draft out the winners and sent
um your rewards to you so do almost importantly you get close information from us and i mean you
can even reach out to me on james via telegram so it's important to join our telegram community
and let's stay
as one big family right there so yeah looking forward to um contribute to this space looking
forward to see how this space goes yo awesome awesome to hear from you just me and uh yeah
really cool that uh there's a giveaway attached to this so you guys um i don't know make make the most
of that uh really excited for this one because like i said
checking santa browser i think there's so much to discuss so much i i would really even like to
understand what the goal is so um taking it back to like the origins of this and i was going through
your medium and i saw you guys have been building probably since 2022
that's a long time to be building um so maybe can you walk us through the history of santa browser
and maybe a bit about the team behind it as well maybe we kick off from there sure sure so um
santa browser was actually conceptualized in 2021 and on Christmas Day, right?
And we've launched our vanilla browser in 2022, again on Christmas Day.
And the primary goal of Santa for that one year was to take Chromium open source and un-google it so the reason for un-googling the chromium
browser was to remove the telemetry and remove the tracking that Google places in it by doing
that we have ensured an additional layer of security for our users so Google will not know what our users are going to be doing. So all that unnecessary
ads kind of reduce just by being on our browser, right? Simply put, they don't know what you're
doing on our browser, nor do we know what you're doing on your browser. Rather, we don't know who
you are. We know what you're doing. We just don't know who you are. So we don't put that two and
two together to tie it back to saying, oh, Yad browser he's doing this this this we don't want to know
it is yar just me is on our browser we don't know it's just me we don't even know if he's
thing so it's it's that anonymity is kind of taken to a next step right um. So our first partners or our first support that we got to building Aptos was actually from USDT.
They were the one of the first funders. Yes. Not a lot of people know about it.
USDT was the first partner that we had. Paolo himself has funded us so that's why we give usdt as rewards right
on santa more recently is the partnership with aptos which is why it became usdt on aptos chain The second partner actually was Sandeep from Polygon.
Yeah.
And these were the two first founders
that have been a part of Santa right from day one.
Yeah.
Oh, interesting.
USDT, Sandeep as well.
I think that's really cool.
I didn't know that.
I don't think i
stumbled on that anywhere so but yeah um it's on spaces like this i this is the first time we're
having you on the spookspace and we try to get close and personal with the team and i usually
just like to know a bit about your journey on web 3 or web? And maybe we can have an idea of how you go to this point
where you are creating Santa Browser.
So I think it was more of a learning journey
because initially I think we were very Web3 oriented,
very decentralized oriented.
If you notice our Twitter, a lot of our posts also follow that
line of thinking that line of talking and over time we realized that there's a much bigger market
out there and that market is the web 2 market and how do we get them to become web 3 we convert them, right? So we're like, hey, why not let's get into that space
of helping people become Web3 users
without them really being Web3 users.
So simply put, this is making sure
that you don't give that overwhelming sense
of the complexity that comes with crypto,
blockchain and Web3 and overload the users with it but then
rather bridge the gap where you meet them where they already are and what they're already familiar
with right so for a small example i think what windows did back in the day they used words like file explorer. They used words like something, just windows, literally just windows, files, right?
Photos.
They used words that are day-to-day, that are easily connected.
easily connected and that's something that we're trying to do as well to make
sure that we connect with that larger audience of people that open a browser
just to search for something find it and then go right how do you capture that
audience yeah beyond that it's more of getting them into a space where they're comfortable to try and learn new things
and get to the future of internet oh yeah cool uh just me i see your hand is up
yeah like it actually got me thinking and you know when when when you press in here browse to n it actually sounds like
what come on the top to n where that came now is the app to n difference to n we all know crypto
is a house and a home of use to n and this actual you know, browser is like, like giving, we actually like giving users back that value.
Yeah, if I'm correct,
Google makes billions in revenue every year.
And, you know, imagine this thing gets tokenized
and yeah, so we're giving about 5%,
5% of the yearly revenue should be about like,
you know, it should still be in billions,
counting in billions to the community. so i want to know like um this question arises to everybody and you know
straightforward to also my um business developer ricks you know like why do you really think
browsers can like is a very good tool to drive this adoption like what's what's the take what's
the take on it you know there are so many things that example example we have um you know um this
info 5 platform kaito i i have i have seen how it has brought in a lot of web2 even someone that
has not even heard about web2 before to come outside writing on twitter and you know you see majority majority of them right now on you know the leader
board crushing dragging themselves to climb the leaderboard it actually came in actually came in
um p5 wallets came in they also drive the adoption converting web 2 to web 3 you know
but so what is that one thing that like yeah makes you feel like yeah okay i'm asking
actually because you you said you are being with um about three years ago so i'm pretty sure you
know most of these visions could have been shared with you shared with you so why what what's that
thing you see what is that you feel like yeah this browser can actually adopt a lot of web 2
and even non-web 2 guys into the Web3 space and Crypto space in general.
Okay.
So I think the easiest way to start would be to say that we're trying to capture the audience that is already there, what they know, right?
And different audiences are looking for different things.
So we're trying to customize that to depending on what the audience is.
So if an audience is more interested in shopping, they get to see things that are more shopping, right? And when they get onto the browser,
then we see that, okay, hey, they are going to go only majority to that shopping aspect.
But now if someone's a gamer, then we direct them to the more of gaming aspects. If they're
more crypto, they go to crypto aspects or the
questing aspects so depending on what kind of the user is we're targeting those roles
so that way it it we we can actually start and this is just a baseline in going forward, we'll start targeting more and more audiences to understand what they need.
And also, one, we have to make sure
that we actually have it.
Right now, our target is Web3 users that
are interested in questing and rewards,
users that are Web2 users that are interested in shopping,
and gamers of all kinds and of course wallet users.
Okay, I would like to follow up on that. So first I think probably the point I would like to
hear were not Armaddon because Josme was talking about how, why a browser should be the one to lead this adoption.
And personally, I have that question as well.
I think a lot of the issues we have in Web3 is majorly on off-ramping and un-ramping.
We have so much.
There's a huge learning curve for Web2 users to get into web 3. I personally did a lot of research
to be able to understand some of the jargons we currently have in web 3. And recently,
because of a prediction market called Flick, I have done a lot of discussions with web
2, just random web 2 people trying to get them into the opinion markets which
like is a prediction market and just understanding okay there are several kinds of wallets but you
can use anyone there are like five on aptos and you could use anyone and just the wallet concept
alone confuses them a lot and then s Santa Browser is saying they're going to facilitate onboarding into Web3 from a Web2 point of view.
I personally think this is something that has to be done by the protocols building on Web3,
not really the things facilitating exploring Web3.
So, but, yeah, just structuring it again.
Why do you think Santa Browser
can actually facilitate onboarding?
Like, why would this be appealing
to a Web2 user to try Web3 stuff?
Because you spoke about Web2 users like for shopping.
Yes, I mean, they are used to e-commerce markets.
Why would a Web2 user want to try out a DEX or speaking protocol, for example?
So I think the main thing would be is that curiosity.
We want to capture the audience's curiosity to say that, hey, you guys, everyone wants to be part of what is
trending.
Everyone wants to be part of what is hip, what is now, what is new, all of that.
It's fine.
But at the end of the day, everyone wants to feel like they're not being cheated, right?
They want to be able to get something back.
They want to be able to get something in return.
The fundamental thing is that the user will not realize that they're on a
web3 product in general. The whole idea is the shift in our change to say that hey we're not
web3, web2 or web 2.5 or whatever it is, is more to say that hey we want to be more appealing to
the larger audience because everyone at the end of the day needs Web3 users and we want to be that
distribution channel to help these projects get new users and we have to start it ourselves.
Right?
First we do it and then we are able to help others get it.
And so if you say like, hey, Web2 users, why are they going to use our cashback or PlayVault?
It's simply because they're going to get a cashback every time they shop.
They're going to get some rewards in return in the form of USDT straight into their wallet.
Right.
And it's just the beginning stages.
The future will be where, you know, let's say two years down the line or three years
down the line, a user will choose what token they want and in what chain they want right now of course it's
limited to usdt on aptos but going forward it'll be any token any chain so essentially a user is
going to be like hey i'm getting money that i can use straight now the other way to say that okay
why would a web to a user want to use a wallet then it comes in
saying hey we're not going to let them need to even maybe use the wallet we can just say hey
you want to see it on a virtual visa card or a master card go for that then use it on your amazon
or things directly so that way they are on a wallet but they don't have to interact with the wallet.
Their rewards go to a wallet, but they don't have to directly interact with the wallet.
Everything happens in the background where they don't need to deal with that complexity of it all,
of transferring the funds, of making that transaction, of signing it,
of putting a wallet address and sending it to a different
account in a different wallet in a different extension and everything simplify to say that
hey i want my rewards to go straight to this virtual visa card that i have created which is
a partner of santa right and then when they go online and they shop,
I'm like, oh, I'll just use my virtual card.
I've saved enough.
Let me get this for pretty much free, right?
Because they've just been browsing
and whatever they've saved up that they've browsed on,
they're just going to reuse it over here.
Oh, let me, it's, and, but again,
this is things that they already know.
It's things that they've already used.
Miles, your airline miles, this, it will work in a similar way.
You're, you're flying, you're earning miles.
You're using those miles to book another flight.
Boom.
You're using things that are already known and connected that's all right i
think that's an interesting concept but uh just thinking about it because i mean one of the first
things i learned in web3 is not your seed not your coin and definitely if you are going to be
managing everything going on through the wallet size connection to web 3
and then definitely there's a lot of trust that has to come into play here um just confirming
has there been any form of audits for santa browser up till now or are you looking forward
to any audit happening soon so wallet audit is something that we're really looking forward to.
That's one thing we have a warning on the wallet.
So if a user is in a country where they cannot have OKEx because OKEx is not allowed in the country, they will see Santa wallet.
But if OKEx is allowed in the country that you are residing in, you will be seeing OKEx.
But if OKEx is allowed in the country that you are residing in, you will be seeing OKEx.
This was a change that happened a few months ago by our whole team to say that, hey, how
do we make it easier for a user to get on Aptos chain?
So basically, that's where OKEx wallet comes in.
So every time a user downloads on a browser, there's a wallet created on OKEx,
and all of the transactions that the user is doing
on the browser, whether it's wallet related or not,
they're all on chain, on AppTest chain, right?
So we have for, like I said,
non-users that have OKEx, cool OKEx.
Users that don't, they get signed up the wallet as a default,
but we have a disclaimer saying that we have an audit pending.
We do want to be transparent about that
and we encourage people to test it,
to let us know what might be going wrong
or what might be breaking or bugs or anything like that not just
with the wallet of course but with anything but yeah we do want to keep that transparency we have
been looking into a few partners for our wallet audit but right now we're raising funds as well
so as soon as we get the funding we will be doing that you know awesome because i i think for
for something like this to work there needs to be a lot of trust and that's no security is not
something we joke about on the aptos blockchain but uh now another interesting thing like just
through this conversation that i've realized is so so first, I think it was just me that was talking about
how Google, for example, makes billions
from like people's data as revenue.
And then like without your permission,
they just ship out this data to whoever you discover
that because you search something somewhere,
like all the apps are recommending this or that thing.
And I'm wondering, how did they know? How did they know i was trying to get this stuff but yeah now santa is saying we won't do
that uh so if this has existed for so long we can obviously say it's not illegal to do this
maybe it's illegal so in some places but i mean it happens so santa browser has chosen not to do
this and on top that santa browser is giving rewards does santa browser not like money
i i love that question the question is actually kind of funny i don't know i want to actually just keep you wanting
yeah i think it's getting interesting here and it's looking like an eye-opening conversation
you know you just like i just like when i see your bread from you you don't know i stole your bread and you saw me eating your bread like you caught me with your bread and you asked me for
your bread and i'll be like okay you come and take bread you get i cut for you what belongs to you i stole it from you and she's sharing it with you
you know it actually sounds so sarcastic and crazy i'll say that simple skinnery is just like
a hole and um this question actually like got me thinking um what which makes asked what should why
should people pivot to santa brother It's just a simple something.
Okay, I'm sorry, I like using,
I'm so inquisitive and I like comparing things.
Now, if majority people have interacted with,
I don't know if people have,
if people heard of what happened
in the whole of crypto Twitter,
it was hectic about two weeks ago,
what's how humanity protocol disappointed their community and you know took a lot of things from the community their data spam
which is which is huge that's a very huge data data in human being you know something i also
noticed that human beings some human beings don't even know they have data you get they can give out
their data anyhow some people go to the length of imputing their ID on shady websites just because of the huge promises they see there.
And now this browser and these platforms have taken their revenue without giving you anything, without even letting you know.
That is the worst part you get.
But now we have the future of ad blocker.
We have so many other features of where you get to see how many ads you have you have been protected from and at the end of the day you are claiming this point that is actually converting to santa
points on tg or continuously after after talking after talking his life where you get to you know
he's on the browser when yeah if if you've noticed for people that are using the browser they can
relate to it when i use the browser and you know i forget to clean points every hour or every two hours the future the the options are always there claim claim
and pity points after five hours if you visit for one hour the one hour options remain there two
hours three hours four hours if you use this for as long as and you know the milestone i want to
reach i want to get to where when i will see 50 000 ad blocks i'm going to put it on x and you
know should put so we're going to see howanta prasa have saved me from unnecessary acts so yeah now this question now that she
makes acts now it's just simple it's just simple like this scenario i gave earlier
gogo made a lot gogo makes a lot of money on revenue models you know gogo makes a lot of
money when i mean a lot of money they have chrome as one of their funnels to get more customers
to get more customers to get more
advertisers now google is taking revenue these platforms are taking revenue without letting you
know you get and now santa barai saying hey no this is your data are valuable although you have
imputed it it is gone you get people people that have interacted on humanity protocol on chrome
for so how long and you know more than two days or one week or plenty of times if if that
look at in the screen if if you have been interacting on humanity protocol with santa
browser you're actually um preparing yourself for the future and preparing yourself for santa for
for humanity protocol how are you preparing yourself for the future you're preparing yourself
for the future in terms of you are going to claim santa points at least you have you are interacting
with you mind protocol to end from humanity protocol and also you are ending from the browser you are using to interact on
humanity protocol you get so this is just santa brother in the whole scenario and it's always
actually make me keep moving you get i feel if this is not enough if this is if this why is not
enough for you to be convinced i for you to be excited about the future of santa browser then i
feel you need to study more about your data how
your data is the most expensive in the world today the billionaires and trillionaires who
see the world today make money from our data microsoft facebook and you know so many twitter
and so many other stuff like that you get so um this question so whoever is using it on the
jumbotron so this is enough reason you, just take it like we are giving you back.
We are giving you back power.
That power you feel like you've given to that platform and they took it for granted.
We are giving it back to you with Santa tokens.
We are giving it back to you with points.
We are giving it back to you with so many other values.
When you book your tickets, this one is life now.
This feature is actually life.
If you book a flight ticket with Santa Browser, you end cashback you play game with santa browser you end cash back life you have to
see but for now um santa brother is we are not yet audited idiots on like santa token is not yet
live so the only thing here is for you to keep you know sticking this point and the most exciting
thing is that it is not only after tg you get point token and go just like how the regular
project does it on city after tg nobody's hearing again or after tg then vesting vesting once all
the token is vested nobody's hearing again this one is something that yeah we are building for
this this is what we're prioritizing at santa browser gets so chimex i'll be glad if you understand
my points yo i saw the bd at s Browser at Dizendo Pazor from the account.
Santa Browser.
Oh, okay.
Hey, hey, hey.
I think everyone likes making money.
We understand how advertising works.
We want to make the biggest change in advertising that is in the internet.
And simply put, we want to make sure that users start getting money from those advertising budgets rather than it going to everyone else's pockets, right?
We don't want the user to be treated like a product anymore and by them getting a share of
these advertising budgets and revenues they will stop feeling so much you so
used and like a product and things like that so we understand the flow of how
the money works and we want to make sure that they get that
revenue split.
Right now, actually, our cashback revenue is going 100% to users.
Our revenue, our play wall is, I think, 80% to users.
So in the future, we'll obviously bring it down and we'll make sure we get a smaller
revenue, but majority will still go back to the user.
Oh interesting. James from ShiftDAO, GMGM. Well it might not be James but most likely.
Hey man how you doing? I'm good man. GMGM how you doing?
All right man. Been a busy day. busy day building building that's cool this browser
sounds pretty cool man i i love the uh the idea of taking the power back from google
in the way they just sell all our information for profit
oh cool yeah kudos to that have you found any interesting or like any point of the conversation that made you curious?
Because personally, I'd like to know, like maybe just the extension system from Santa Browser.
Because we see a lot of people still use Google's extensions.
Probably Mozilla, Brave still use Google extensions in one way or another.
Like, how is Santa supposed to undo this?
I think that would be quite cool having
a whole extension system.
Necessary with a browser, is it?
Yeah. Santa browser,
can you maybe talk a bit on that?
I, sorry, sorry.
Could you just repeat the-
Okay, so one thing that has been the gateway
into Web3 for a long time has been your wallet extensions,
especially if you are using a browser.
The wallet extensions are like the gateway to almost everything i know now people try to
find other systems to it like your google accounts on aptos here um with aptos connect and the likes
but now with these extensions more and more these extensions are gotten from the i would call it the Chrome extension store,
if that's what it's called.
Yeah, the Chrome web store.
Is this where Santa Rosa is also getting extensions from or are you going to create your own extension system?
So because we're on Chromium OpenFork,
all the extensions can be got from Chromium store as well.
So we're not limiting that.
We're not restricting that.
We, on launch, we put our MetaMask as a default extension.
We added it.
Now we're using OKEx, but we made it default.
You have Phantom, I have Backpack,
all linked to my Santa browser extensions.
We do have an extension coming out, meaning you can go to your Google Chrome and download an extension of Santa browser very soon.
But we don't want to build a separate extension right now that will be a little too out of pocket.
We'll be digressing out of the browser space.
So we want to stay in the browser space.
We leave the extension building to people that want to build their extensions
and, you know, maybe want to be on Santa.
Interesting.
Because I think that can maybe create a fine line
between how much data is given out.
Because, I mean, partnering with these guys to still use their extension system might still be giving information to them.
But another interesting aspect I would like to talk about is your partnership with USDT.
Right now, you said rewards are given out in USDT, but we know there's going to be a Santa TGE, and you plan to give rewards in Santa after your TGE.
Right now, you said rewards are given out in USDT.
How is the USDT system going to work at that point? And let's talk time too. When is the Santa TGE?
So we don't have a fixed date on the Santa TGE,
but we've kept it a little bit simple.
Now I will go back to the point that I said where, what
is the user most connected with?
When they go to Cashback and Playwall,
they see things in dollar.
So that's going to be in USDT.
When a user goes to the questing aspect right now it's in
santa points after tge it will be in santa token so this is the immediate change post ege afterwards
i think it depends on how the user response is going to be. We will keep adjusting things,
but immediately it will just be that simple.
Questing will be for Santa,
and Cashback and Playwall will be for USDT.
Okay, I think that really simplifies stuff.
Yeah, but really interesting stuff,
just looking at how Santa is going to work.
I mean, Santa, the token.
Because I know a token can be a separate business on its own.
If you've ever listened to Ash, Head of Ecosystem, Adapterstock,
like there's a point that he has hammered on.
And sometimes you're like, okay, not everything needs a token.
When we think about it, you already reward users with USDT.
Why is Santa necessary? token so i think the token was just brought in mostly for the utility and the circulation right
um when we have a token that is we know that it's going to constantly grow in accumulation and spending because the user is going to earn it through questing, earn it through browsing.
And then we have projects that are going to come in saying that, hey, we will give users Santa's tokens so that we can get users in the form of user acquisition, right?
So that way we become the distribution channel
for Web3 projects or even other Web2 projects, right?
And now all the projects know that,
hey, I'm getting real users
because they're people that actually are browsing.
They are regular users.
They are interested in my product because they want to see that
continuity right so that way there's a circulation of that token and we're like hey it makes sense
to have the token um but initially we before we form that whole loop. We were like, you know what, maybe we'll hold off.
So that's why we've delayed the launch quite a bit. I think otherwise we would have gone with our launch sometime last year or even early this year, like Q1.
But we wanted to make sure the user actually knows how that system works as well.
how that system works as well.
Oh, interesting.
And yeah, I think there's something people
would be looking forward to.
Everybody likes the idea of a TGE
and most likely more rewards for users as well.
So I think that's a very interesting point.
But just general structure now,
I know there are so many parts you You spoke about maybe not focusing on extension is going to help you focus more on just the browser aspect.
So if you are looking like six months to a year down Santa browser, what do you think are going to be the added features?
Maybe in terms of partnerships as well, what should the community be looking forward to?
partnerships as well, what should the community be looking forward to?
I think the main thing the community should be looking forward to will be, one, I think the
community growing to at least 5 million plus user base, right, across different communities.
That's our goal. That's our primary goal to make sure we get 5 to 10
million users within the next year. So that's first thing that people are going
to see is like, okay, they are really serious in growing those numbers. We're
really serious in making sure that we're able to keep bringing back the user and
wanting to stay on. I think one of the biggest
aspects that we want to target is the retention rate how much can we keep a
user rather than just bringing in new users right so it's not about okay new
5 million users no it's 5 million users that are regularly using it right that
would be the first thing that I think
would be most prominent.
The next thing in terms of like partnerships,
we have a lot in pipeline.
I've been building that pipeline since 2023,
Jan, Feb, I think.
I've been building that pipeline.
So to give a few examples
currently at least we are partnered with Moonpay and Transac for our wallet on ramp and off ramp
we have around six partners each for our play ball and cashback and growing for our questing
we have a few partners that are in line to hopefully onboard them in the next few months once our testing is done.
When I say onboarding, to make sure that not only they get new users, but also users can start doing quests on their platforms through Santa.
That is a teaser. I won't be able to say names yet.
Won't be able to say names yet.
But I think six months to a year, it would be where questing would change,
where a lot of projects would want to have their users come through Santa
and have more questing options on Santa.
So users will be able to see projects from all over the world and different
spaces all in one place on Santa Questing. Yeah. Interesting. I think that there's a lot of moving
paths and I'm kind of worried. Hopefully Santa doesn't become just another questing platform
because we have quite a number of those.
And personally, my experience with them is not really all that nice.
I'm not a fan of questing platforms.
I think I can just put that out plainly.
So, and maybe I should just rephrase this in a completely different way. If we think of users that don't care about maybe the questing tasks because they feel it's too hectic or whatnot,
and the users that don't care about their data, even though we know it's so important,
people are always like, I mean, it gets me what I want.
I really just want to search for stuff and see results and move on with my life.
I don't care what Mark Zuckerberg is doing with my data or whatnot.
First, what would you say to these people?
And secondly, what would you say differentiates or what would you say is that point that can
still make Santa standouts from other browsers
to these kind of people?
So I think first thing with the questing aspect is we're going to be having a revamp on our
entire questing to make sure that users don't feel that overwhelmingness from other questing.
So they're just gonna start seeing points in the system.
Right?
And they're just gonna, most of the time,
they're gonna wonder how.
And it's more of just like, I think, yeah,
one of our team, we had this idea of putting an ad, right?
And it's a very simple ad.
You are in a supermarket and you're walking around
and then the clerk just pops up behind you
and he's like, he gives you a coin.
And you keep continuing to browse in the supermarket.
And then after a few more minutes,
the clerk comes and just gives you a coin.
And it's just simply the, then finally you ask him, hey, why comes and just gives you a coin right and it's just simply the
and then finally you ask him hey why are you just giving me a coin just like no thank you for
browsing right so that's something that we want to be able to give back to the user in terms of
the questing where it is just that simple right and uh with uh sorry yeah we just want to make it that simple
with
people that don't care about
people using their data
so data wise
it's a different aspect
it's going to be voluntarily
where if a user wants to
sell their data they can sell their data
and they'll get paid for it right
this is where the education aspect comes in where we will let them know that the user will be
getting an option to say that hey i have this data if i voluntarily give it away I'm gonna get paid for it over time right so that's something that
they need to choose so constantly it's a choice so if they want to shop they can go to Amazon and
shop or they can come through us and shop the difference is that they'll get a cash back through
us and that's what we're trying to marginalize right now you know interesting uh yeah i like the idea of that
especially people that really don't care it's just an added level of revenue for you to browse any
way you want to and maybe still just go claim rewards when the time is due um i think there are
a lot of questions in the comment section. Maybe you guys can
come up or something. But yeah, I'm going to leave it to Santa Browser. If you guys
can, maybe after the space, just come through some of these questions and get winners. But
that will be our time for today. I really want to thank everybody that came up to speak.
our time for today i really want to thank everybody that came up to speak um you uh just
thank you so much for that and to our listeners as well i see ttv in the audience brent big shout
out to you a person like you i'm never calling you a person again but yeah really shout out to
you guys and everybody else in the audience for coming in as well i think it was a great one
looking forward to everything from santa browser especially the audience for coming in as well. I think it was a great one. Looking forward to everything from Santa Browser, especially the audit.
I think the audit is a stamp of trust that users would like to see.
So I'll be watching out for that and probably sharing the information as well when that happens.
But for now, thank you guys so much.
It's bye from me.
See you guys next week with another amazing guest.
And ciao, ciao. Thank you. Thank
you for having us.
