#SBSTwitter AMA 4 - #SBSBoston Recap

Recorded: May 9, 2023 Duration: 0:58:01

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Hello everyone, welcome to the SBS Twitter AMA. We're gonna be doing a recap of SBS, Boston
Chatting with some really awesome projects
We're gonna give this just a couple more minutes for people to filter in to get all our speakers set up
And then we'll get started excited to have you all here
Thanks for joining everyone just wait a couple more minutes for
Some of our speakers to get set up and then we'll get ready to go for this
SBS Boston recap
Thanks for joining everyone
All right, I think we're ready to go thank you everyone so much for joining us today for our SBS Twitter AMA
Um, we're gonna have a really awesome conversation today recapping some of the topics from SBS, Boston
I'm speaking with some really amazing people working on super cool projects. Um, so very excited to be here
My name is Caitlin. I am the sustainability data partnerships manager with the file queen green team
at protocol labs
Like I said, very excited to be here. I'm having this conversation with everyone
Just to give a quick overview of SBS, Boston a little recap if you will
Um, we had uh, we hosted SBS, Boston in April
Uh right around the MIT energy conference
Um, we had an amazing turnout over 800 in person and virtual attendees coming to SBS, Boston
To talk about this intersection of web3 technologies of refi and sustainability
Um, we hosted this SBS around the MIT energy conference for a very specific reason
And that is because we wanted to bring in not only these amazing refi projects and web3 projects
That are building the tech stack for um, this next generation of the internet
but to also bring in the sustainability world and people who have the expertise and the knowledge of
The climate crisis and what things are needed to address this climate crisis at scale
And so that's why we hosted it with the MIT energy conference to bring in not only the refi people the web3 people
But also these experts in sustainability
Um, I think alan the team lead for the file queen green project stated it beautifully in the opening pan or the opening
keynote for SBS, Boston and that is that people on both sides of this token in the sustainability world
Three world have knowledge of the other side's blind spots
And that's why it is so important for us to come together and to coordinate on these things and to have these conversations
And so that's kind of the whole purpose with SBS
And with these SBS twitter amas is to come together in this space and to have these conversations
And talk about coordination and and how we can work together to address
These problems that we're facing as as the world. So that being said, um, I would love to
Introduce some of the amazing speakers and projects that we have here today
I guess to start i'm going to have each of our speakers
introduce themselves
their projects and the first question that I want to ask each of you is
What are you doing in your projects that you cannot do without web3 technologies?
So kind of I want you to to chew on that question a little bit as you're introducing yourselves and your projects
And i'd love to start with the first person I see on my screen here
Which is symbiotica and ryan. So yeah, ryan, please please introduce yourself what you guys are working on at symbiotica and
What you're doing that you cannot do without web3. Hey everyone. So, uh, really appreciate being in this space
This is ryan thomas from symbiotica finance
Uh, so what we're doing that we couldn't do without web3 prove impact, right?
so so many different investors want to see impact realized
And blockchain and digital ledgers have the opportunity to unlock all of that capital by way of giving
New insights, uh that they couldn't get otherwise, right the provenance using blockchain is critical
And so what we uh, really would like to see is that more and more people are
Onboard into the impact investing arena
by way of using our platform to see all of the different assets that are impactful and
Are truly impactful and that could be validated and audited
Using these these different ledger technologies and so we have a variety of them on our site
You can check us out at symbiotica finance, but that's that's the the kernel of of of that question
Definitely that we could bring auditable real truth to impact
With with blockchain, so that's us
Amazing thank you ryan
I think one of the things that comes up a lot as i'm having conversations with people about
Blockchain and web3 technologies and refi is like what is the problem you're trying to solve?
and I think proving impact is such a critical piece of a lot of the
Projects that people are working on and the fundamental elements of this kind of refi
Decide defi space if you will. Thank you for that ryan
I'm excited to to dive into some more of your thoughts on
All of these things. Um, i'll pass it over to to isha
Um from cello head of defi, uh, introduce yourself
What you're working on on a cello and what are you guys doing that you cannot do without web3?
Thank you kaitlyn. Um, and thank you for having me on this space. Um quick introduction. I had defi at cello
Um, which is a layer one blockchain
And so I think we wouldn't exist without
Web3 and blockchain. I mean you clearly like yeah, that's fundamental technology for us. Um
So just for people that are not
Familiar cello cello is a layer one chain that is evm compatible
And the thing that kind of sets us apart and the reason why I think we're part of the sbs
Is that we're a chain that is very focused on refi
Everybody has a different definition of refi. The way I like to frame refi is
We focus on climate
financial inclusion and community
that means
Anybody in these ecosystems
working to
eradicate poverty climate change
Um, whether you're in the developed world or emerging market in the global north or the global south
Um, we kind of focus on all of these areas
Amazing thank you isha. I love cello. I think everything you guys are doing is great
I love how refi focus you are and you know
All of the initiatives like climate collective and the projects that you're supporting is just amazing
Um, so excited to talk to you more about those as well
Um next on my screen, I see maxwell, uh from git coin. Uh, please introduce yourself your project and
What does web 3 enable for you guys at git coin?
Yeah, it's whole bay. Uh, thank you kaitlyn. So my name is maxwell currently
Contribute full-time to git coin. Git coin is a dao in the eramico system
That funds public goods through a mechanism called quadratic funding
Uh, we could not exist without ethereum
Uh, the dao is governed by gpc a governance token. You can't really have governance tokens without a public blockchain
and right now quadratic funding as a mechanism is reliant on having a
Public watching like ethereum. We are currently in the midst of our beta round with only a few hours left before it closes at midnight
So check that out as well if you're interested in learning more about git coin and the work we do
Amazing excited to dive into public goods, um, and the git coin round that's going on right now
Lots of amazing amazing projects and a lot of um, awesome climate focused projects too, which is really exciting
I think the last person um to introduce is uh hyphen miles
Please introduce yourself what you guys are working on hyphen and what web3 enables for you guys
Wonderful. Thank you kaitlyn. Uh, really good to be on here today. So thank you
Uh, our mission at hyphen is really to accelerate climate action with real-time atmospheric greenhouse gas observations
So we've developed an automated system for real-time data collection aggregation validation
And this creates an up-to-date audible value chain of all these different data flows
Right now hyphens really focus on providing the necessary coordination and the state of the art infrastructure
To facilitate tamper-proof climate data in order to monitor and validate environmental claims really ranging from facility operations to nature-based solutions
While our primary focus is really around digital monitoring reporting and verification
And we have our own system and network and different intergovernmental organizations that we work with on these initiatives
We're really focused on making this a very inclusive environment as well. So
Specifically what we're doing to really try to empower as many other groups working on digital mrv
Is we're providing near real-time greenhouse gas concentrations and flux data streams from each station within the current global greenhouse gas
Observation network to really empower the refi community
Um to kind of dive right into your question of you know
What are the benefits from from blockchain smart contracts and oracle networks? I'd say there's a lot
It's hard to really narrow it down
But one of the things that I think we're the most excited about
Is through the automation through smart contracts and being able to share data so easily across multiple blockchains via oracle networks such as chainlink
Is really the ability to ensure that anyone that wants to work with this information can access it in as close to real-time as possible
While ensuring that they have this auditable track record of all the data and they can access that through
Directly calls on our oracle network or through different distribution partners for data
Or even through filecoin green and what this really allows is for any organization to be able to access this information have this immutable
Ledger or this immutable track records of the data the transactions
Being able to build their own smart contract applications on top of that and having a very transparent ecosystem
To really be able to use this information and to not have to say oh trust us this data is good
Or saying oh trust hyphen
But rather having this trustless system where that the data and the track records can speak for themselves
So that we can really empower as many people and try to bring a little bit more confidence into the markets
Absolutely, that's amazing. Thank you all again for for being here and coming to talk about your projects and
Some of the things that we talked about at SPS Boston are already prevalent in this conversation, which is awesome
Actually, Miles, I would like to to pass it back to you and double click on something you said
as far as you know
the importance of good data and being able to track kind of the provenance of that data and
I'm curious like if you could expand a little bit more on what you guys are doing at hyphen as far as
You know, what role is do your data sets play in decarbonization and how are you guys enabling?
You know more transparency and verifiability in this kind of dmrv world and
What are some of the things that you're you're working on at the moment?
I know that's kind of a loaded question
But would love for you to just kind of expand on some of the things that you you mentioned in your intro
Yeah, absolutely. Thank you
So I think it's um really important when we see such an innovative ecosystem focused on digital monitoring reporting and verification
That we equally empower as many people with the best data to be able to do this. So
There is a sort of two sides of this coin here
So i'll start with with the first side which is really
When we picked apart and looked at the different data sets that were commonly used and when people are starting to apply different
methodologies to it as well as artificial intelligence
And really focusing on their own preference on their belief of how to do it the best
One of the things that we saw very common was that groups were taking an activity-based approach
So what that means is really, you know taking a a set of factors that is applicable to
A tree in this circumstance or a nature-based solution and multiplying that based on how many trees there are
While that activity-based approach works really well for things such as combustion engines and a lot of things in in industry
Um, it doesn't translate and doesn't tend to work well with nature-based solutions
um, and the reason for that is that
You know nature at the end of the day is a very dynamic living
um ecosystem or in this case a living asset
We really wanted to come in and empower the right data sets and and show people which data sets that they can use and make
It easily for them to use those to be able to
build in more geospecific
Um data and information and so that's why we focus on greenhouse gas concentrations and flux data
So the concentrations are really the parts per billion or in some cases parts per million of the greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere
The flux data is then a result of those concentrations and measuring the flux of what is going in and out of the atmosphere
Which allows you to then put in the the right calculation to be able to actually measure the actual carbon sequestration
Or the net flux of how much carbon is going in but nitrous oxide is going out and allowing for this hyper granular and specific data
And so we are really focused on empowering this observation data
Which kind of encompasses the concentrations and the fluxes to as many groups around the world as possible
So that those data sets can be complemented by satellite
Data to be able to try to improve digital mrv and make it a very collaborative ecosystem
But ultimately at hyphen our real mission is to be able to drive scientific practice methodologies and data sets into the core of these emerging markets
So that the reality aligns with the markets and the financial mechanisms that we're building around that
Amazing I
I it's amazing to see how much uh, your project has grown in the year that I know i've known you
And all the amazing work you guys are doing
Um, so thank you for that and that actually leads into a question I have for you ryan
and uh following up kind of a little bit on like this idea of
Bringing the economy more in line with the natural world and you know using things like dmrv to you know
Push capital to these on the ground projects. Ryan. You were on a panel at sbs boston talking about defy for refi
Um, and I wanted to ask you what are some of the trends that you kind of see emerging in refi projects?
Um, and like how they're moving capital towards the natural world if you will
Yeah, so I think um, whether it's post-cock or just generally people trying to
Sorry, if there's any noises other folks around me. Um, yeah
So I think what a lot of new companies are really trying to focus on is an adherence to where other capital allocation might be coming from
So understanding that uh major corporates major institutions, they all want to make good on their esg claims their social responsibility claims
They want to make sure that those quarterly reports are tight
Because it's where demand is right if you are going to invest in companies down the line
You want to ensure that those companies have practices that are not deleterious to the planet
And so what we see as the viable opportunity and in a lot of uh companies are starting to pick up on this is that
You can make sure that digital assets primarily can start talking in the same language and and being harmonious with
Corporate actors. So if we're talking about defy for refi
The most regenerative way to move money towards sustainable practices is using the same language that money is already speaking in
So being able to uh work with regulators and bankers
And and actually start facilitating conversations around how you can onboard impact through crypto in a way
That's not actually focused critically on being you know, the the most uh
Price swinging crypto asset you're not really considering that we're considering how you can show meaningful impact with digital assets
Rate them accordingly and bring them to an audience who has capital that they're willing to deploy
But the thing is is you just got to be able to speak in the language that they already speak
So that that way the claims that they want to make in quarterly reports are actually
Um true and accurate so that that's what I would think we need to start doing more
And I think the the sensible players in the space are starting to do that as well
Amazing I couldn't agree more and I think again a common theme that um has been brought up today as well as
SBS boston and previous sbs is this idea of um impact and proving impact and
um aligning capital with impacts and um isha was on a panel with me at sbs boston
Talking about um, you know those real world impacts and I wanted to kind of shift gears a little bit. Um, but
uh, you know talking about this idea of public goods and
Um all of the things that public goods brings and that this web3 space is doing for public goods
Um isha I wanted to to ask you, you know public public goods are pretty central to what you guys are working on
um at cello and I want to just kind of dive into like what is your theory of change with with that and
Specifically as the head of defi like what what do public mean to you guys?
Yeah, so, um, just building on what ryan and some of the other folks on this panel said already, right?
What the blockchain allows for is an immutable record. It also allows for really easy
movement of value across
jurisdictions cross borders, um at fractions of the cost and so
Public goods when you're talking and like, um, some of the stuff that I deal with on a day-to-day basis at cello is like
How do we enable financial access and inclusion in a way?
That is accessible to like bottom of the pyramid in emerging markets, right?
And so for that to happen, it has to be cheap efficient and economical
And so from one end of the spectrum
We have something that we call fiat connect that we run at the foundation
That is basically helping people off-ramp your stable coins, um dollar and europek stable coins
Across the world. And so we I think we have like 55 countries already covered and when I say 55 countries
I mean most of these are emerging markets and we have the ability to cover 100 more to centralize exchanges
Um, and so you could move money from the developed world or from anywhere in the world to these countries really easily
And off-ramp into local currency where if you're a farmer in kenya
You get access to like funding or loans etc from a d5 protocol
I could um add liquidity to a d5 protocol sitting in the us and a farmer in kenya gets access to this
Um funding in africa or latin america or southeast asia and this would be efficient
It's also really good business. Um credit for instance in emerging markets is
At a yield that you do don't generally get in the developed world
And so like public goods for us is interesting things like
Building out the fiat connect rails where we can off-ramp into domestic currencies public good for us is that we have a community fund
So revenues or gas that's generated from the salo
Blockchain kind of goes into the public a community fund and the community then votes on bronze
And financial incentives that it provides to
Projects and protocols that it wants built in the ecosystem
And most of these go towards like because we're mission aligned and refi focused
Most of this will go into building out infrastructures or protocols that kind of align with our mission
And so it's interesting because we sit at a layer one
For us public goods in a way is also just building out this really interesting
Ecosystem whether that is by initiatives like climate collective, which is a coalition for all climate builders in web 3 and
Climate collective even though is a salo initiative was initially thought of as a salo initiative
It kind of now expands to the entire ecosystem
And so you could be part of climate collective and not be deployed and salo and that in itself
I think is really interesting because it's like hey
We want this ecosystem to grow and develop and you get to you get a choice on like where you want to deploy based on
Like whatever metrics you want to use
And so like public goods at for us
Is interesting it's like a mix of different things whether or not you're part of our ecosystem or just generally building out
um the climate ecosystem building out the
Um defy ecosystem in general that kind of services more of a broader audience
Amazing that uh made me think of the closing panel at sps boston where your colleague, um
mentioned, you know
Angelo mentioned
How important it is that we're in this refi space enabling projects to be able to like
Work on different chains and work on these different projects kind of like the interoperability piece
um and sim gay from game forest also
Kind of elaborated on that and just being able to bring
The best elements of of each of these projects and blockchains to the people that matter the most which is the people on the ground
Providing these real world impacts. So um that that just reminded me of that. Absolutely, right?
Like go tap liquidity where liquidity exists. We all know like 90 percent of liquidity is on ethereum. Go tap it
And then go deploy it and if you don't have off-ramps in nigeria on ethereum then come to sallow and off-ramp it
I think we're all working towards the same goal, right?
We're all working towards a better future whether that's in the climate space or financial inclusion space
and I think the space is so inclusive and like collaborative everybody just wants the space to grow and
They want people to build and like I I think I agree with most people at sbs boston which was like
The future is cross chain and it shouldn't matter at some point. It shouldn't matter
Even your solution shouldn't matter whether you're built on the blockchain or web3
We should completely abstract that away from like the end user the end user should just get the solution
They shouldn't know how it's running people don't know how your stuff runs on the internet or how the internet works
I mean i'm hoping like in five years from today
We don't know how blockchain works and like which chain you're running on as long as you get the solution
Could not agree more
Um, and that was such a common theme throughout, uh, especially this past sbs is like at the end of the day
All that matters is how we're bringing those those real world impacts
Um amazing. Um, that's well, I wanted to um, you know
Obviously public goods are central to what you guys are doing at get coin
and I wanted to kind of ask you the same question and just like what is your guys's theory of change at get coin and
Especially, you know with this current, um round that you guys are doing
Um, just I would love if you could like talk about that a little bit more and um, how you guys are thinking of funding public goods
Oh, yeah, totally. Totally. Um, thanks for that question and and shouts out isha as always
Just yeah being so articulate. Um, I completely agree and get coin has very much the same thesis
Slo in the sense of just trying to make the world a better place
Uh principally get coin has achieved this through quadratic funding, which we believe to be
The most efficient, uh and democratic way to distribute funds, uh within a crypto environment
And I think generally our theory of change is that we believe that participatory grants programs really allow communities to fund their shared needs
And historically we've been focused on public goods, but we're kind of evolving our mission towards these plural goods and towards these more
Uh elastic shared needs that communities have
And I think we're unbelievably convicted
That having participatory grants programs utilizing quadratic voting and quadratic funding
Can enable communities to govern themselves and to fund the things that matter most to them
I think currently in our beta round we are supporting a wide variety of causes
from community and education to climate solutions to core human infrastructure
And just completely whole whole whole heartedly agree with you each about the versatility of public goods
I think that's something that that I and and get current as well kind of share a definition of it could be anything from
core ethereum protocol to
A climate solution to kind of just you know picking up as simple as picking up trash in your local park
Everything kind of it runs the gamut in terms of what communities consider shared needs and what we believe to be
public goods and yeah, I'd say
Overall just driving towards making the world a better place. We're trying to do that through funding mechanisms
I could coin but yeah shouts out as well to miles and ryan for all the awesome work you're doing with climate solutions
Amazing and can you remind me how many
Funding rounds have have happened at this point in time
Yeah, so can we like collectively we've done over 50 million
dollars worth of public goods funding and over 100 quadratic funding pools in the
In the years that gay coins been around since since 2017 2018
So a relatively nice impact I think we're proud of that. We're proud of those numbers for sure
Yeah, that's definitely a nice little nice little impact amount for sure
Something I that came up a lot at sbs boston
As well as I think has been a pretty prevalent conversation in the refi space lately is
this idea of you know
bringing value
Again, those real world impacts making real world impacts
And kind of the storytelling of what we're doing and how are we talking about what we're doing and and making it accessible for people that
Aren't maybe knowledgeable about the tech stack or don't know about these things and so I wanted to ask each of you guys
How are you thinking about that and the work that you're doing and making these things like more accessible for people who maybe don't know
What refi is or don't know what blockchain technology is?
How are you thinking about that in what you're building?
And I wanted to ask each of you this and I think i'll start actually with isha because I think this is something that
cello does a phenomenal job with um, like meeting people where they're at when it comes to
um, the technical knowledge and and
Accessibility of it. So i'd love to start uh with you isha on that question
Yeah, that's a great question. Thank you
Um, so a couple of things I like I said, I hope like three years from today
We're not talking about like what three and like all of this abstract that but right now. I think we do is focus a lot on like
Meet like you mentioned like meeting people where they're at
so for instance I deal a lot with like traditional financial institutions that are looking to add liquidity to
Um, one of the buzzier words in web 3 right now called rwas, which is real world assets. Essentially
It's like funding public goods in developing economies or funding interesting financial institutions that have some impact
and um, a lot of our conversations are like
It's tough because you go into these meetings sometimes, you know, like oh i'm gonna like pitch web 3
We're gonna talk about like really complicated solutions and what we've learned is actually sometimes you have to completely
Some of the meetings end up being hey, what is bitcoin? What is blockchain? And so it's just
educating
creating awareness
Also just telling people hey, let's not sometimes it's even about like telling people that's abstract all of this away from you
This is a this is a solution stack for you to kind of use and implement and that ways you don't have to get into
the technicalities of any of this
um risk is another area where web 3 at least externally, I mean we're all in web 3 and we
um understand the technology a little bit better than people outside and so it's perceived the perception is it's a very
Risky there's lots of hacks. There's lots of like
Your money's not safe. And so
teaching people about custody
um is also super important whether that's
institution as well as retail and so
It's it's a lot of awareness generation. It's a lot of like
We even run like smaller cohorts. So for instance, we have some protocols at the protocol level
um teach people how to like even like
on-ramp from like
Usd or whatever they are whichever part of the world from that to a stable. How do you save? How do you invest?
How do you do even research?
Um, there's some really interesting people that do like quests
I just recently met the people at layer 3 and they do some really interesting like educational programs. Um, so again, um
It's a multi-pronged approach a lot of it is awareness and some of it is just abstracting
So it's between these two i'm not sure if that answered what you were asking
Yeah, absolutely like phenomenal and like I said
I think you guys do a phenomenal job of like enabling that accessibility and meeting people where they are where they are
Um, and I think that speaks to a lot of like the success that you guys have at cello
So that's awesome. Um, yeah same question for you ryan. Um, this is something you mentioned a little bit earlier like
people onboarding into this kind of
Web 3 world and impact. How are you guys thinking about that? Um at symbiotica?
Yeah, so wonderful question and and I I really appreciate it. He should take on that too
Um for us we look at the idea that not everyone is uh web 3 native or fluent right now
But there will be a likelihood in the future that it is the backbone of so many other
financial infrastructures in the future and we ensure that
Companies, uh as well as just local enterprises, whatever they may look like if they're non-profit or just mission driven for profits
Can actually start doing work with uh blockchain based solutions?
Uh, you know in a way that's actually effective for them
So what we want to see is not only you know dispelling the rumors that you know, crypto is is uh bad for you because of
Scams and hacks and things but also just really reifying the the good things, right?
The idea that if you're a community that relies on remittances remittances are drastically, uh cheaper if not free
Uh for for moving money across the planet for people where they really need it
You might have ways to hedge against uh deflationing
Value right and other other ways of retaining that value for those communities
There's ways to access new global markets in in a way that people haven't been able to do before and so
Part of our team has been really working hard
Both on the ground and the amazon with impact companies that are not web 3 fluent in any way
And trying to uh give them and their sustainable practices that they've been doing for years and generations
Ways to on-ramp into web 3 not only for access to capital capital and liquidity via things like public goods funding
Uh via quadratic funding and good coin rounds and things like that
But we're also just looking at ways to give them efficiency, right?
How can it be more efficient to use web 3 than to use a typical?
You know payment processing platform that you might be used to using elsewhere and and that's the that's the thesis for us, too
It's not just you know giving uh rise to you know, which digital asset is the best. It's also saying, okay
If you produce an asset, it could be a digital asset and it could be invest worthy
Planetarily, right so that that's the the focus for us. I think bringing more uh fluency to people across these markets
Bringing that access in a way that says this is better than the traditional way
Not just that the traditional way is is arcane and hard, but like it's just generally better to use these systems for your own enterprises
I love that. I think that is such a important question
In this kind of web 3 space generally, but especially in in refi and that's like what are we?
doing better than like these traditional systems and how are we speaking about that with the people that
Um, we you know want onboarded into this like web 3 space
um, and you also mentioned, you know the the kind of
Messaging if you will around, you know, how blockchains are bad for the environment
I think a lot of that narrative is starting to shift especially as we're bringing more awareness to
um refi projects and the public goods funding that's happening in this space
and so again, I want to ask the same question to you miles and
I think one of the the biggest benefits in my eyes or something that i'm very
Passionate and interested in is kind of the transparency behind data that web 3 enables
Especially around, you know environmental claims and environmental data. Um, so with you guys at hyphen, um, how are you guys?
thinking about accessibility and
Bringing new people into this kind of this world if you will
Absolutely, so I want to uh mirror a little bit of what isha had to say
We take a very similar approach at hyphen and I think
When it comes to speaking with a lot of larger enterprises corporations or even other intergovernmental organizations that we're working with
One of our sort of models would be that we never sort of we never try to pitch the web 3 aspect
We really just tell them what it works the solution and how it moves
Oftentimes what we find is that these different organizations will come forward and ask us, you know
Are you using blockchain this and that and what we've found to be the most successful approach is to actually take this
Less is more approach to to let them ask us the questions and give them really good answers for it instead of
Overwhelming them with a lot of information and in terms of trying to excite them about web 3
To where oftentimes that might confuse them because it's so alien to some of these organizations
Is more approach has been really successful for us
Um, but to to kind of dive into it a little bit more in depth is that when they do start asking the questions
I think you really hit the nail on the head there where you can really shine light on the benefits
That's brought forward around ensuring that you have the integrity in the data and having these auditable track records
Where for the enterprise world that this audible track record is so important
Important when they are on the roadmap to achieving that zero. So being able to show that you have these benefits of automated
Data facilitation and these immutable track records and making audit processes so much easier and being
Able to easily incorporate that into their process
For the scope one two or three emissions or for offset claims or you name it
I think that's where you can really grab the attention and make these things very attractive for them
But the bottom line is which I really like what isha said is that you know at the end of the day
If someone goes to to a website today
They're not so curious if it's connected with http and if someone used javascript to make the website
Ultimately, they just care if the website works and and it's fun to be on
Um, and so that's an approach that we have taken with with talking with lots of organizations
Amazing yeah, I think you
Obviously a lot of the things that you guys are doing at hyphen are very interesting to to me as someone who is focused on environmental data and
A lot of the things that we're doing at filecoin green with like co2 dot storage and being able to track data provenance
I think obviously is very aligned with what you guys are doing
Um, so yeah, that's amazing
Maxwell again same question to you. How are you guys thinking about accessibility and and what you're doing at getcoin and
You know onboarding more people into this like web 3 world
Yeah, yeah, totally yeah, just a giant plus one to everything that's been said
Yeah, by issue around accessibility and trying around kind of access generally and fluency as well
I get coin is definitely thinking a lot about those characteristics. I think
Recently, we have revamped our grants program to be powered by grantstack, which is a protocol that we built
Um, which is an centralized protocol anyone can use to fund
their shared needs and
We were very diligent about building that up in such a way that it's highly accessible and clear
I think a lot of these things at the simplest level kind of come down to ux
And how we design the digital interfaces that our community interacts with I think
That's been a big piece. We've thought a lot about and have tried our best to be intentional
At another bigger component that I think getcoin throughout the past few years has really focused on its education. This was really
present in kernel that community which was launched through
Vivek and andy and and others through getcoin a few years back
And I think initiatives like that I see as really helping to promote accessibility because
It's not just in the tech itself
It's in our understanding of the tech and how we relate to it how we integrate it
And how we feel about it and I think a lot of these education initiatives
really go the extra mile in terms of
Getting people on board and creating this this fluency that that you mentioned earlier ryan and uh,
support more education start for doing
But through community education rounds and our beta round because we just really see this as a giant piece of puzzle when it comes to
The next evolution of the web3 ecosystem more broadly and how web3 can enable impact
Amazing I my background is uh kind of in like education
And social impact and so education is something very very important to me and um, I love to see like all the initiatives
Around that um, so that's amazing. Thank you guys for answering that question
Um, I also wanted to remind the audience. This is an ama
So feel free to to ask us anything
Um, if there's anybody who is wanting to ask questions to our panelists, we're happy to to pop you on
As a speaker to to ask questions
Um about these projects
Um, I don't know if there's anybody so far
We'll keep an eye out for that, um, but the the next question that I wanted to ask is
Um regarding sbs boston, obviously, this is kind of a recap of
Tying the bow on um, some of the things we discussed at sbs boston
For those of you that that were there. Oh, I see
Uh, I think we have a question from someone in the audience
Okay, maybe not um, yeah, so
Um, sorry lost track of my question that I was going to ask um for those of you that were at sbs boston with us
Um, what were some of the the biggest takeaways from the day?
Um hyphen, I know that you guys also had um alongside climate collective, uh bounty and our sbs hackathon
so if you kind of want to speak to the takeaways of that, but just what were some of the
like key points that you guys heard about um at sbs boston that you want to just kind of
Double click on here today or some of the things that really stuck out to you all
Yeah, i'll take a brief stab at this first
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend in person as I was had a conflict with another conference here in switzerland focused on nature-based solutions
But with that being said I thought it was um, incredibly
Exciting to see through different colleagues and people that were there as well as throughout twitter and linkedin
How much of an excitement there was really on this collaborative effort to focus on digital monitoring reporting and verification
To improve carbon markets as well as it was really cool to see other groups
Focused on sort of these early warning systems for parametric insurance and to really put these systems in place that
Really have a dire need or a dire demand right now from the larger corporate world
And I think that's a really cool way to be able to educate excite people collaborate
And to kind of bridge this gap as you were talking about earlier between sort of this more traditional legacy world and the
Benefits and the tools through web 3 and I think is as you can show to larger organizations that it's more, you know
Equitable makes more sense that it's ultimately more profitable for them
Um, I think that's when we'll start to see things move quite quickly
So I thought it was really cool to to see quite an emphasis on that this year and thought there were some really great
Talks and panels about that
Yeah, I I totally agree I had the privilege of being
The conference and yeah, it just was told me blown away. I thought it was one of the best
Characters i've been to candidly it was it was awesome
But I think the biggest takeaway I had was from the d5 for refi panel, which I know you were part of brian
I think uh, it's such a good conversation to have
Defi can support refi because
I think it you know, it kind of sucks to admit it
But like 95 percent of crypto is still this kind of like not so great speculative nonsense
And I think the more that we can use that to drive forward refi
It just opens up a ton of possibilities and I think that's what i'm getting most excited about these days is how all of these various
Initiatives and projects and people can kind of coalesce for this higher level impact. I think we can talk about
All the things we want but I think once we all start speaking a similar language
And also kind of contributing towards the same angle here of you know saving the planet and making the world a better place
I think that to me is is what is uh, most exciting and what I kind of took away from the conference as a whole
That's that's awesome i'm gonna chime in and say thank you for that just because I appreciate the the support there
But also I will say that the land and refi panel really really awesome isha you were great in that and
Gloria was also in that I think I see her in the chat
I don't know if she's able to talk at all
You know from lessons learned from that and you know other feedback which you know, really great conversations there and just really awesome conversations there
One of my favorite talks was also not a panel but a presentation which is the En-ROADS keynote with Jason
That was really fantastic just to think about uh, the parameterization that we can use based on the most useful data that we have
Finding ways to incorporate those those data sets into our models and just real time play with those things
So that that way people can make you know
Risk adjusted decisions that aren't you know about financial risks so much as they are about ecological risk and societal risk
Those things are critical, right?
And so really appreciated the fact that SPS Boston convened that
You know these amazing panels and these amazing speakers to be able to share these things that
Help us see the the world a little bit differently in the way that we hope to you know
See that regenerating the planet can be profitable and it should be and viable
So yeah, really appreciate all the teamwork that you all have put together here for that. Thanks
I think i'm gonna go next
Ryan I like completely agree plus 100 to whatever you just said the data visualization
I didn't realize that methane
Reducing methane was going to have such a positive impact and that's something that we should definitely I I wasn't aware that that
Would have such a great impact
Yeah, I love the panel that I was on because amazing Gloria who's in the speaker
Who's listening here said the best thing that I heard all day, which was show not chill and that's become like
My thing to tell all builders everybody in the web3 community
We should be showing and not showing so thank you. Gloria. I'm I've kind of borrowed that
Since then
and then the other thing that I was really excited by seeing was
Game forest presented how they could visualize
forest cover
Across the world and I thought just that mrb technology and just building that with ai
And being able to kind of visualize that and put that on chain
That was incredible
And so you're able to kind of see how an ecosystem kind of grows and evolves
On real-time basis, which I think was another thing that completely blew my mind
But yeah, these are a couple of things that I thought was amazing
I completely agree with everything all of you guys said
I I didn't have the opportunity to watch the nroads demo from jason
At sbs, but I was able to watch the recording of it
We have recordings of all these panels and talks on our youtube channel. Um, if you haven't seen them, you can check them out there
Um, but yeah that demo and like the impact that the price of carbon had on emissions was like blew my mind
and then also
Double clicking on on what isha said as far as gloria's show not shill
I've also adopted that as like the motto the unofficial motto for
Sps going forward. You should definitely like trademark that gloria
Um, but that brings me to um, kind of my my I think this will end up being one of the last questions for today
And again, thank you all for being here. Thank you. Thank you everyone for coming and listening
Um, our next sps is going to be a little bit different which i'm very excited for
Our next sps is sps earth
Um, and this is going to be a completely virtual
Sps, um, we're bringing sps to everyone in the world, which is very exciting
Um, and the reason behind that is obviously there's so many amazing projects that are doing on the groundwork
They're making these real world impacts and we really want to bring
this conversation
These people and this capital to those on the ground projects and really again
Something that's very important to me is looking at that real world impact
So that's why we're doing our next sps completely virtually, um, which is super exciting
um, and I wanted to ask you all um as we're kind of
Going into the latter half of 2023 and moving into the next sps. What are some of the
conversations or um
You know topics or things that you want to hear people talking about in the next sps at sps earth
Um, and just as we continue to move through the rest of this year
Um, what are some of the things that you would like to hear more about?
I see ryan has has a hand up. So i'll pass it to you first
Thanks for that and forgive me if I took the privilege from someone else on that
I I would like to suggest that given that it's going to be a
Uh planetary, you know coordination effort that may be some of the discussion
Um, not just in the hackathon build build technology sense might be actually around sensibly addressing coordination failure
Uh, there's lots of people in this space working in this arena, uh from radical exchange to green pill to you know
Refi, you know lots of people who are trying to figure out
ways to adopt new
Coordination mechanisms and it'd be super interesting if we could build some of that with other folks here. Um, yeah, and that's that's what I got
Amazing I could not agree more and gloria welcome to the to the crew. We'd love to hear from yeah. Thank you
I'm, so excited to hear that. It's going to be virtual. Um, i've been chilling sps to all of my
what three green communities as something that they should try to participate in and so i'm loving that it's going to be virtual that people can
participate and learn and come together because I think
Currently right now between like local nodes and network states and all of these local refi things people are really trying to figure out
Some of this like applied regenerative cryptoeconomics and how they can like have that kind of be happening in their local communities
And so these conversations need to be continuing to happening at a local level as well as a global level
um, one of the things that I would love to
Think about at sps is like as we continue
As an industry as we continue to like have events all over the world and kind of
Have these local nodes all over the world. Like what can we do to make sure that when we go to these new?
destinations that were
like doing it as green as possible, but also engaging and empowering those local communities either from a web 3 standpoint or
even from a local standpoint like that we're engaging with them and
empowering them and not just like
Coming to these destinations and having these silos, but really engaging with those local communities figuring out their needs amplifying them
And engaging with them because I think it's a lost opportunity to have so many bright minds
Um coming all over and not engaging with the bright minds that are already there and having them part of the solution process
Yeah giant giant plus one, uh, Gloria great great to hear where you say all that because I'd pull harder to agree
And yeah, I I think that
With the with the conference circuit that happens that that's just been such a great bifab for a while that you know
We kind of go
Between all of these places and talk about the same stuff for the same people
Kind of like leave a mess and then go on to the next party and I think it's not very sustainable and probably not
most impactful either
So in some ways it's really good. That's virtual because I think it opens up that layer of accessibility with which we've all identified
It's just a key area of growth
And yeah, Ryan, I totally agree as well about coordination failures
I think having a track or some sort of emphasis on addressing coordination failures, I think will be
really wonderful because
Ultimately, that's the biggest thing that's stopping all of us from reaching our full potential as like humans
But also as a collective here trying to do good with up three
So I think the more that we can identify key problems and then think about applied crypto economics and actually
Facilitate change and do some case studies about what has happened and what hasn't happened
I think we'll just like learn a ton from that and then can become the foundation for all the work we do moving forward
Amazing I cannot agree more and I think again that that En-ROADS keynote that Jason gave
Really spoke to that idea of coordination and how we have to do things
Like all together if we want to address these like wicked problems that we're all facing so I could not agree more
This has been such an amazing conversation, I know we have just a few minutes left
To close it out today. And again, thank you all for being here. Thank you everybody for for listening
We do still have time for questions
If anybody has questions for our speakers and the amazing projects that they're all working on
Again, I know the motto I'm trying to push is show not show
But with these last couple of minutes, I'd love to give you guys all the opportunity to just kind of close it out
Tell us what you're working on. I'll give you like 20 seconds max to show whatever you'd like
To close us out for this AMA today. I'll start with you Isha and Celo to lead the way on this question
Or maybe we'll start with Gloria if there's anything you'd like to show
Yes, so there's just a couple of my hours during this get coin grants bait around and there's a lot of
Grants that are in the meta crisis that are worth taking a look at
There's a refi DRC grant that's there
That would be loved some don't I will have to say that all of the grants in that meta crisis one are
Absolutely fabulous. They're doing a lot of impact
bringing local communities into the web three spaces, so
If you have the ability to donate feel free to
Look go over that round and take a look and donate
But even just following them and looking at what they're doing is worth the time and consideration as well
I will also say if you aren't if there's not a like a green pill
To you locally or whatnot and you want to start one
Please feel free to reach out to me whether it's starting like a refi node or a green pill
Local node or just starting somewhere within your local community and gathering together to find green solutions
And and empower your local community with somewhat three solutions
I will be more than happy to either point you in the right to that connection
Or right direction to have those connections or get you started in general
Yeah, please we need more we're green pill chapters have you ryan isha maxwell miles
Anything you'd like to shill or close us off with today
Any calls to action for our audience?
Oh, man, that's a that's a steep steep request. I think i'd be remiss if I didn't
Suggest, you know checking out our get coin grant just because it's the last day today to support get coin rounds
Uh submit, you know to all these amazing projects that have people around have any audience questions. If not, we can always uh
Thank you guys again all so much for being here
Listening for speaking such a great way to round up sbs boston super super looking forward to our next sbs sbs earth
Everyone should be able to attend that one since again, it is going to be fairly virtual
Thank you all again for for being here today for having this conversation with us
Um, such a nice way to to round out
Um this first half of the year and this this first sbs, so thank you again
Um, look forward to seeing you guys all
Um again virtually at sbs earth or at the next conference. Um, so thank you all
Thank you. Thanks everybody. Take care
Thank you very much