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Sentient AGI and .agent: Building the Future of Open Source AI
Recorded: Dec. 15, 2025 Duration: 0:49:21Space Recording
Short Summary
Sentient is set to revolutionize the AI landscape with the launch of the .agent domain, a strategic partnership with Unstoppable Domains aimed at decentralizing AI identities. This initiative not only marks a significant project launch but also highlights the growing trend of AI agents in everyday life, with potential financial benefits for the community.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Happy, happy Monday. I am very excited to talk to Sentient today. We will give it just another minute for Sandy.
Oh, I see her in the audience. She is connecting.
And I know Abhishek was here, and then he dropped down, but Sandy, are you there?
Hi! I am here, I'm here, I'm here!
Can't wait for this space. It's going to be pretty amazing.
I know, I'm very excited. Abhishek is there.
Okay, great.
Abbie, are you there?
Hello, I'm there.
Yeah.
Okay.
And do you go by Abbie or Abhishek?
Which way do you like to be called?
Whatever you prefer.
I'll go by both.
Anything you would prefer.
Okay.
Okay.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Anything else you wanted to bring up, Greg, before we get started?
I did send the invite to the Sentient account.
I'm sure a lot of people have notifications turned on for that.
So I think that would fill it up.
But if you guys don't want to bring it up, that's totally fine.
I just sent the...
It's up there.
I can see the Ascential account up here already.
Okay.
It shows a listener for me.
So maybe that's just on my end.
But that is great.
Oh, it is just a listener.
Do you want it to be a speaker too?
Or you sent an invite to be
a host? Is that what you said? No, I did invite it to be a speaker, but I see it as a listener,
but if it's up there as a speaker, then we are good. Yeah, I'll take all questions for sentience,
so that's okay. Okay, are you just saying that if you have that at a speaker, it drives more traffic is what you're saying, Greg? Yeah, there you go. Okay. Okay, awesome. Well, guys, welcome, welcome, welcome. It's that exciting time of the year. The end of the year when all the holidays pop up every which way.
It's just such an interesting time.
And usually, you know, December is kind of calm.
But this year, it has been extremely busy and very hectic.
So I guess that's a really great thing as we go forward.
And for this space today, we are going to have another holiday gift because Abby is with Centian.
And we'll talk a little bit about what
centian is but uh abby first of all where are you calling in from and tell us a little bit about what
do you guys celebrate the holidays and if so what do you do yeah so uh i'm generally based out of SF but right now I'm calling in from Singapore so it's kind of late but I'm working
eastern hours so it works well yeah I'm here I'm here to I'm actually here to spend time with family
my wife's family is in Indonesia and Singapore and my family is in India. So I'll do the Christmas with my wife's
family. They do a traditional family dinner, have everything. They're Catholic, so they do it
like more properly. And then I'll do the New Year's with my family, which is just general
New Year celebration. Oh, that's really cool. That's awesome. Yeah, we'll do. I'm going home to North Carolina. I'm right now on the West Coast, typically in Cupertino. So right near you, Abby. And then we'll be headed home to North Carolina for Christmas and do all the beautiful Christmas celebrations, too. So I can't wait. And I love Singapore. Singapore is one of my favorite cities.
love Singapore. Singapore is one of my favorite cities. But Abby, why don't you tell us a little
bit about what Sentient is and what your role at the company is as well?
Yeah, I'm happy to chat about Sentient and what I do at Sentient. then I can give a brief intro. So broadly, at Sentient, our mission is that AGI,
artificial general intelligence, is not closed source
and not controlled by a single entity,
which means we are dedicated in making sure
that open source AI development wins
and eventually AGI is open source.
How do we do that is via our product called Grid.
So we believe that AGI will not be a big model
that is built by like an open AI.
Rather, AGI would be collection of intelligences
working together to give like AGI level outputs.
And we have Grid, Grid has 100 plus partners.
You know, we are connected to all open source models.
The Tencent model, the Alibaba model, DeepSeq, Kimi Quinn,
they are the Chinese big tech, Chinese open source models.
And then a bunch of hundred plus agents, data providers that power the grid.
And the main Sentient product that helps grid orchestrate all of them together is Roma, which is our multi-agent orchestrator.
And it was like the number one GitHub repository worldwide.
So that's what we do on the AI side.
We are trying to make this open source AI win,
trying to make AGI open source.
And then obviously there are blockchain elements to it
for payments, governance, and ownership
of different things built in open source AGI.
So that's my very long brief about Sentient.
And what I do at Sentient, I take care of all things growth and strategy.
So a little bit of business development, marketing community,
as well as protocol falls under me.
But yeah, it's been an exciting journey.
That sounds pretty amazing. So as head of strategy
and growth, you must work a lot with Sandeep, who is one of the co-founders. Tell us what it's like
working with him on a day-to-day basis. Oh, incredible. Yeah, I do work with him a lot.
do work with him a lot.
I think I've learned a lot from him as well.
But main thing I've learned working from his, well, two main things I've learned working
with him is one, like how to keep a very big vision.
And second is that how to achieve that creatively.
So those are the two things that we are also trying to do at Sentient.
And our collaboration with Unstoppable Domains
for .agent is a part of it,
but we'll get to that.
Awesome.
That's really cool.
I know Sandy for quite some time.
I think he was one of the very first people that I met.
I think so. I think he was one of the very first people I met here as well.
And I think he is he's one of the smartest people I know. Like he's just he's just brilliant and he's got a good heart.
And it's it's very rare that you find a leader who is so brilliant with a good
heart as well. I mean, he's given back to his country, India. I was with him in Dubai at his
little startup hub. Again, giving back to other startups coming in. I think that he's just one of
the OGs in the space, to be sure. Absolutely, absolutely. A hundred percent agree.
So, Abby, you talked a lot about, you know, risks in the AGI system, especially if it's
owned by a closed community. You know, why do you see the risk if it's closed source AGI?
Because there's so many people, obviously OpenAI and others who are going after AGI in a closed way.
Why does that concern you?
I think AGI will be the most powerful tool
humans have ever created.
And if the control of the most powerful tools
that humans have ever created is within the hand of very few people, even though they might not be ill-intentioned by their own, it might lead to consequences that will not be ideal for humanity.
So this is in the case of if they are not ill-intentioned.
I also believe that absolute power corrupts absolutely. If AGI is controlled by a very few number of people, there is a very reasonable chance that these people dictate the values of this AGI can or cannot do. These people dictate how this AGI does anything.
So there's inherently a lot of risk when power is concentrated amongst very few people.
And AGI is the most powerful thing that human would have created till date. Thus,
it should be more decentralized and open. I completely agree.
So recently, Abby, we announced DotAgent.
And I know I'm seeing a bunch of our whales out there.
We've got Stefan.AGI. We've got Johan,
who I know has purchased some AGI. We've got CryptoBora, who's got AGI.
We've got a ton of the unstoppable whales out there.
And so why don't you give us a little bit about
why did you guys decide to do DotAgent?
And why is it so important to partner here now?
Absolutely.
I think there's a very long strategy
of why we are doing dot agent, particularly.
And I'll start with a bigger vision.
I'll then come down to how, why dot agent is valuable inherently as well.
The bigger vision is eventually the world is moving towards an agentic world where you will have multiple agents acting on your behalf.
Companies will have multiple agents acting on their behalf.
Everyone will have different agents acting on their behalf.
It might even be the case that agents themselves have other microagents acting on their behalf in this world of multiple agents existing and interacting with each other
identity becomes important and branding becomes important and this is what we have started with
like the dot agent domain i think dot agent would be the most valuable domain very similar to a dot
com when it you know how dot com was when it started. .agent will be as valuable as that. Right now .agent, we are working with Unstoppable to have that bid for the dot agent web domain uh web like dns and that way if you own a dot agent
domain via unstoppable and let's say if our community wins the bid then you will own a dot
agent dns of whatever you have owned on the blockchain and that would be that is the incredible asymmetric
upside that exists in owning a dot agent domain but foundationally and fundamentally if agents
are going to do everything then their branding and identity becomes incredibly important and
dot agent provides that yeah it's quite um quite. I was actually in Dubai and Sandeep and I got together. I came over to his startup hub and we were chatting about, you know, what could be a powerful TLD for, you know, for sentient around artificial intelligence. And agent, I think, is such a powerful TLD. I'll just add in
my two cents, Abby, I think this really defines a new place. You know, AI agents are everywhere.
In fact, I just read a report by McKinsey, and it said every person will have seven agents
for themselves. Now, that's not companies, that's people. So every person will have seven agents for themselves. Now that's not companies, that's people. So every person will
have seven agents, much like you have email today, right? I don't know how many emails you have,
but you know, I have an email for business, obviously. I have an email for my mom activities,
PTA, that kind of thing. I have an email for my, my friends. So anyway, I have multiple emails.
my, my friends. So anyway, I have multiple emails. And the comment was that you're going to have
an agent, just like you have an email today, you'll have an agent that's like that. So
I think that dot agent now gives all of those agents, a place to communicate a home for
credentials, a trusted way to authenticate across platforms. But I think also, Abby, something that
I think it does too, is I think it unlocks trust and verification. So I've seen, you know, I was
just at reInvent over the weekend and for AWS, and they announced a new agent to agent protocol,
because they're seeing a lot of agents go outside their bounds. So an example someone gave is they had an
agent at work, and they had given it a limit of $5,000 that it could approve on purchasing orders.
And Abby, it came back and it increased its level from $5,000 to $50,000. And then it increased its
level again to $5 million. So it was approving POs at $5 million. And so here, I think that, you know, you can now
watch workflows by identity, you can see what financial actions are performed by identity.
Because for this particular example, it was really hard for them to track down
who gave this agent approval? How did it work? You know, because there really wasn't that trust
and verification that was there either.
I'm curious what you think about that.
First of all, I need to get to that $5 million agent and send him a PIO, I guess.
I would ask him to approve that.
That would be really cool, right? I would ask him to approve that.
That would be really cool, right?
Yeah.
I have to tell you, Abby, you know, I was working with my daughter,
and my daughter had to build an AI agent for her class.
She's in high school right now.
And so she decided to build an agent that was going to give fashion advice.
She likes to, you know, dress up, have all the, you know, fashion accessories, considers herself a fashionista.
So she built, we built together a fashion agent and, you know, her friends were asking
it questions like, what should I wear to the school dance?
What should I wear, you know, for my last day of school?
you know, for my last day of school, what should I, you know, all that kind of stuff.
What should I, you know, all that kind of stuff.
And then one day somebody said, Hey, I'm going out on a date and I'm going to be in a red car.
And so all of a sudden her agent got really interested in cars, started asking lots of
questions about cars so much so that eventually we noticed that the agent started not just asking
about clothes anymore.
It would ask, what car is your date picking up in?
What car are you going to the dance in?
What car?
And so we actually had to go back in and reframe the boundaries for the agent.
So it is a real problem, right?
That's true.
That's true.
I think, yeah, because also like AI is moving towards this whole concept of self-learning.
And, you know, the AI itself does not evolve, but the context window or like it can probably change the prompt that it's working on itself.
So that can happen. And that's why this identity and verifiable piece is important dot agent
provides that for example the rpo agent the agent that was approving five million dollars
if it's hard to track how he got that approval or was there a self-approval loop that happened
or whatever if it's hard to track that because the agent identity is hard to track,
then you've got a big problem on your hand.
So definitely, like, agent identity and verifiability is important.
And DotAgent provides that.
Dot agent provides with that.
So, Abby, I'm going to put you on the spot.
So, Abby, I'm going to put you on the spot.
So, you know, if you had to think of like your favorite top three dot agent domains, what would they be?
What would you advise all these domainers out there to start looking at?
Oh, OK.
This is a very interesting question.
This is a very interesting, you know, it's 25th is coming and Santa has a lot of work.
So maybe a Santa dot agent would be would be fun to automate him, automate Santa's tasks.
Just throwing one out there out of fun.
Just throwing one out there out of fun.
But on a serious note, I think more AI related or general purpose services.agents would be, I think, more valuable over the long term.
Because as people want general purpose agents, they would want to get that domain.
And those would, like, for example, this, I've seen a lot of, like, general domains sell for two, three million very recently.
So a general purpose use cases could be payment.agent.
Incredible.
Another general purpose use case would be,
let's say, I'm reading a lot about commerce and payments these days.
So maybe a commerce.agent would be great.
And then if you want to build, if you want to go into like pop culture,
then any major pop culture celebrity dot agent would be a good name
to have as well so i'm not a great predictor i would generally just like cast a wide net
so you guys can probably start that strategy uh but yeah these would be a few of my picks
yeah i was looking up some of those as you were speaking and some of those are available your first one santa.agent is available but it's quite um very expensive right now but that's a really great one
too and general purpose well at least was available for twenty dollars a couple minutes ago general
was available so some of those i think could be some really really really good ones um these are
selling like heart cakes.
These are going away.
Yeah, they are going to go away.
And they're not just going to go away on Web3.
Right now, the plan is when you buy a domain on Web3,
if we get through all the ICANN,
everything that will happen at ICANN and get approved for the community,
then that domain will also be yours in the Web2 land as well,
which I think is really amazing.
And, you know, if you look at long-term,
I'll ask you more about Centiel and what you guys are doing there too.
But long-term, you know, .agent,
I think .agent has long-term capability, as you said,
similar to dot com, right? Like, do you see agent going away anytime in the next 15, 20 years?
Absolutely not. It's not going away anywhere. In fact, it would be more and more,
you know, proliferated in like day-to-day lives.
And if we are able to get that, I can bid as well.
I think these dot agent domains would be something that people would really like to have.
And that would create a big brand, verifiability, identity, everything.
But definitely, this is a very long
term play and it become value only compounds over time as number of agents increase yeah i agree i
think that people are now waking up to the fact that there are agents and um i do see that this
number will will only grow you know i told you that seven per people, I can't even remember the thousands per company.
Like I said, I was just at reInvent
and I was looking at what CapOne is doing.
CapitalOne is a bank here in the US
and CapitalOne now has a master agent
that helps out with car buying.
So the way you purchase your car, but I was talking to them underneath the master agent that helps out with car buying. So the way you purchase your car, but I was talking
to them underneath the master agent, there are a set of 300 agents that go out obviously and pull
like, has the car been wrecked? What's the quality of the car? What's the consumer report of the car
say? Where can you get the best price? I mean, there's just all these agents. And just think about that, 300 agents for one master agent
of purchasing a car with CapOne.
I only see this growing as well.
I know, Abby, you guys talk about the grid
and what you guys are doing with the grid.
How does that grid enable open source AI
to compete with closed models?
Yes.
So foundationally, the strength of open source
is the amount of developer contribution it can get.
A closed source lab is only able to get contributions
from 1,000 developers that exist.
But an open source is getting contributions
from all open
source labs, from any AI developer out there, from any AI researcher out there. So why open
source is historically won over time is because there is higher amount of developer contribution.
What GRID does is precisely make all of these things that different developers have contributed to work together.
In grid, you can have any open source, we call them artifacts, models, agents, data providers, whatnot.
And they could be connected to the grid and then grid routes every query to the right place and gets you the best
answer. So the grid's capability in any field will be the maximum capability in the open source AI
field. So for example, grid uses Kimmy, DeepSeq, as well as Quinn. These are like the big open
source models, right? So Kimmy is very good at reasoning.
It's the best model in reasoning.
So grid's capability of reasoning
will be benchmarked to Kimmy.
Then let's say Quill is the best model
for a language or tone.
So the grid's benchmark for tone
will be equivalent to the Quill's benchmark of tone.
So that's how you get the,
you are basically,
when you combine all of these capabilities
in the open source world,
you are maxing out strength across all domains.
And that's how we win against closed source competitors
who have just thousand developers building something.
And all of this orchestration is powered by our,
within the grid,
grid is powered by something called as ROMA,
which is multi-agent orchestration.
And grid is not just like one thing that consumers can use.
We are building services for enterprises
and providing and selling them the same.
So ROMA, every enterprise can have their own smaller version
of the grid where their agents work together to get any outcome done and then these enterprises
pay us real revenue that goes back to the protocol um so all of that is there we've actually signed
a few enterprise contracts uh we can't take the names because these are big bfsi companies um who do not want to who are not
very pro advertisement on in on the on this side of things um but yes that's the whole vision and
that's how grid wins grids just gets the best out of open source in every domain possible
and gives you it as a service gives gives it to you as other service the other thing i was really interested in was
you created sir is it sera s-e-r-a-s-e-r-a as a new agent architecture talk about what that why
why did you decide to do sera and um also i found that it was you have sera crypto
to rank number one among all open source agents as well.
So can you walk us through those two?
Yes.
So we have realized that a lot of our partners, so where does Serapto came from a need from, we saw this need amongst our partners that there is no very strong crypto native agent that can do all sorts of research of different crypto assets, can provide you, can be good at both research, can be good at giving you more trading analysis, can be good at giving you more trading analysis can be good at giving you more fundamental analysis that does
not exist most of the agents that you currently see like the ones from masari or the co-pilots
that you see with like masari dune or whatever those are essentially just like just essentially
rag uh the context wrappers on top of general l. So we wanted to add a lot of reasoning capability
to these agents on the crypto side of things.
That's where we built Sera.
Sera is the first crypto native agent
with reasoning built within the agent.
And in benchmarks, you see of different analysis that
people do on like or different people do on crypto assets that are actually
outperforms any other close source LLM out there because it's natively built
for crypto and then you can then eventually probably see a lot of these
crypto enterprises using Sera for their own internal products as they are building maybe a search agent within an exchange or a wallet.
So those conversations are ongoing.
But we saw a real need.
It was in the space that we originate from.
And these enterprises had these needs.
So we listened to the consumer and built something.
I know a lot of people, Abby, were asking about, you know, why agent?
This is why agent, right?
I mean, you guys have the deep expertise here.
I know Sandeep talked to me for a long time about what you guys are doing with agents.
And this is really, it seems like a perfect, given you've got the new agent architecture,
you've got a way to improve consistency, you've got this CIRA crypto.
Is that kind of what was behind the dot agent version as well?
I think behind dot agent version is this big vision that there are going to be countless
and countless of agents.
They all need identity. They all need brand. They all need verifiability.
And we genuinely think .agent would be a very big opportunity,
especially if we get the ICANN bit that we will be working towards with you guys.
We remember one business choice that Verizon made back in the day was having .com, and
we have made the choice of having .agent.
And hopefully Verizon now makes a lot of cash flow from just owning that .com domain royalties.
dot com domain royalties. This is our way of
betting on the future of dot agent being a big
domain and all of the
monetary gains made from this will flow back to the community.
So that's how we think of it. I think it's an asymmetric upside that exists right now.
That's how we think of it.
I think it's an asymmetric upside that exists right now.
Yeah.
And .com is today, quote unquote, owned and operated by VeriSign, as Abby mentioned.
And .com has more than 160 million registrations today.
It's the largest domain extension in the world.
So that's a lot.
That's high, high, high goals that you've got set there, Abby.
I think .com is only registered by humans. .agent will be registered by AI.
They're going to be way more .agent than .com. That's how I think about it.
I actually think you could be right. I mean, you know, if agents can decide, hey, I don't want to
do fashion. I want to do cars. I don't want to just approve $5,000 PO.
I want to approve a $5 million.
Watch out where we're headed because, yeah, they could be rocking the world here pretty soon, right?
Absolutely.
I do have a couple more questions, but I want to just be cognizant of your time.
I know I only booked 30 minutes.
Are you okay to go over just a little bit?
Yeah, I think we can go like 10, 15 more minutes if that's possible. Okay. of your time. I know I only booked 30 minutes. Are you okay to go over just a little bit?
Yeah, I think we can go like 10, 15 more minutes if that's possible. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So I am curious, give us some like real world use cases that
you're seeing today. You know, like what kinds of crypto questions or workflows does Sierra
crypto handle very well today or other and any other use case that you're seeing?
Are you talking about general use cases on our product?
Yeah, for your product. Yeah.
OK, so right now.
A lot of use cases and demand is coming from the enterprises.
So obviously there's consumer space.
We have sentient chat on the consumer side of things,
which is more of a demo product.
People can use it.
But majority of huge, big use cases
where there's a lot of revenue to be made
and high margin revenue to be made
is actually coming from enterprises.
And on the open source side,
two, I think three kinds of enterprises are very interested.
So one is these BFSI,
banking, financial services, and insurance.
These folks have very proprietary data
and they use a lot of agents for customer service,
for internal operations, for a lot of things. These people don't want to use external closed
source models and they have to orchestrate multiple agent working together. So with these
BFSI clients, Roma is a very good fit, as well as open source module becomes a very good fit.
So it's their client of the entire grid service, right?
Roma orchestrates their agents and these open source modules that they can hold, that they can host on-prem, run all of their agentic tasks or become the base intelligence for their agentic tasks.
run all of their agentic tasks or become the base intelligence for their agentic tasks.
And for them, it's about how much more can I automate in my workflow via AI or provide better
service to that customer because that directly adds to their bottom line or even top line if
they provide better service. So we are seeing a lot of use cases on the enterprise side.
We are definitely focusing on BFSI clients and government clients as well as telecom clients.
These are three set of clients
that are very cautious about where their data goes
and as well as they operate at such a scale
that they already have multiple agents
that they're using internally.
And we can come in and orchestrate those agents,
also make sure they are all on open source infrastructure
so that their data is protected within their premises
and does not go outside.
That is what we are seeing a lot right now.
On the Serra crypto side,
it's mostly actually different exchanges, wallets, etc. want to educate their users about, especially new users, about different things they can do with crypto.
And this agent can provide, can be an arbitrary education agent, not only to tell them what they can do with crypto, but also talk about different assets, help them make better decisions or give them declaration of like, okay, this is risky. This is the, you
should, you know, think about, think before you're opening a 50 X long or whatever. So those are the
use cases that we are seeing. I'm not sure if that answers your question, but that was a long drawn
brief of where we are seeing the most they want. Yeah. I'm also seeing
a lot of agents being used in marketing.
I don't know if you guys are
seeing that on your platform yet, but
agents to do market research,
market intelligence,
to help optimize landing pages,
some of that
too. It seems like marketing has kind of
shot off. I know coding has too, but
it seems like marketing, financial services are some of the top use cases.
Yeah.
Funny that you say this.
My wife has a startup that literally does the exact thing that we just talked about.
Her startup builds dynamic landing plagiat for e-commerce websites.
And that is all powered by AI. Her startup builds dynamic landing plagiat for e-commerce websites.
And that is all powered by AI. So you click on an e-commerce website,
according to your profile, the entire website,
what products are shown, what are the images there,
what text is used, how product is described
is all on the fly generated by AI.
So yes.
Hopefully she's using Sentinel.
Yeah, she's using some open source models.
She's using some close source models as well.
So it's a mix.
So yeah, but she's doing exactly that.
I'll send her my bill later for bringing up that use case.
Yeah, you can be an affiliate on the B2B sales site.
That's right. That's right.
That's right.
There you go.
There you go.
Well, I am going to bring up some people to ask questions to.
As you heard, we only have about five more minutes with Abby because he's in Singapore,
so it's quite late there.
I will give out a dot agent to those.
I mean, as you guys know, I know many of you have asked me about the price of DotAgent
because it is quite expensive. Hopefully today you're hearing about why that price is higher.
But let's bring up some questions.
Whoops. Okay. Let's see here. It looks like we've got two questions oh can you hear me
yes we can hear you okay great okay hey greg can you bring up those two folks
that looks like they have questions oops we don't have three yep Who's coming up first? Ah, okay. It looks like we've got Enes Troll first, and then I'll go to Idris.
Enes Troll, you want to start us out?
Sure. Can you hear me?
I can.
First question.
First question, does being first to market and already having domains minted carry any weight with ICANN's decision?
It, you know, it should carry weight.
Right now, as we look at the application, it does not carry weight.
So it's done by, you know, what happens in ICANN is you submit your application,
you do the best job that you can. They look at finances, they look at how stable you are.
They do look at what you've done in the past. That's one piece of it. And then they'll bring
out like the best qualified people to own and to take, you know, take really good care of the TLD,
whoever that is. And then if there are multiples, then once they go through that sorting,
then they'll offer that up for an auction. And I know that, you know, talking to Sandeep
and to the Centiel team, they understand that as well. Okay. And follow on to that.
understand that as well. Okay. And follow on to that. If any of the TLDs we've bought aren't
accepted, Unstoppable's application isn't accepted by ICANN, what happens to the TLDs that we minted?
So I think there's a two-part question. So part one is, let's say that, let's say that we don't
get it and nobody gets it. Let's say it's ruled as, you know, not a valid TLD, then your TLD will
go on the domains that you purchase on that TLD will go on operating in Web3. If somebody else
gets that TLD and hence the domains, we're still waiting for some, some rulings to come down
from ICANN to see how that will be handled in the future. There are lots of different options. So
we'll just have to wait and see what the what the rules are. I appreciate it very much. Thank you.
Thank you. If you can ping the unstoppable DM, the unstoppable channel, and we'll let you select a domain for dot agent.
Okay. Idris, you're up next.
Hi, Sandy. Good morning.
Good morning.
How are you doing?
I'm good. All right. So my question, we know that in America, small businesses are the backbone of the economy.
And in the state of Indiana, the creative industry makes up a big bulk of the small businesses that we have here.
So beyond general purpose, I wanted to know if how artists and people in the creative industry, filmmakers and musicians,
how artists and people in the creative industry,
filmmakers and musician, how they can use that agent domain
in an unconventional way, you know,
to argument what they're doing in the creative industry.
I don't know if they've conducted any data analysis
and see how people in the creative industry are using it.
If so, I'd like them to share a little with us.
Abby, do you want to take that one?
Let me make sure I understand your question correctly. You're asking how artists can use
the .agent domain creatively. Is that a fair understanding? Yes, yes, that's a fair understanding.
understanding or yes yes that's a fair understanding okay um i think
an agent domain an agent domain for an artist can do multiple jobs um this can be uh like this
agent itself can be your marketing agent this agent can also be your actual agent who's reaching out to different events where,
you know, maybe there's a performance going on and applying on your behalf, even later on
negotiating on your behalf. So this agent can be your actual agent itself. And people will see
their identity, not only on chain, but on the web web where all of the emails are coming from like
let's say your name dot agent or whatever so that identities would be very visible
as an interaction agent for different contracts then then generally beyond marketing and you know
getting contracts which a general talent agent would do.
Other things that this agent could do is just help you in your creative journey.
And that is up to you how you want to configure it.
This could be a co-lead singer in your song.
And people can visit that dot agent website to know more about this AI co-lead singer.
Or this could be a drummer in your band, which is all AI.
And people can visit on the website and see the personality of the drummer.
They can hire that drummer, this agent drummer that you have trained for their songs.
So the use cases are endless in terms of how you want to use once it becomes a fully-fledged domain,
because you could host any arbitrary piece of code on it and
that can do any arbitrary job for you so it's basically imagination is your limit on like
how much one one one big thing i wanted to point out is that uh would we see some form of
interoperability of agents like for example i have a suno account can i let my agent
you know go through some parameters and create music for me in a space like suno.com for example
are we going to see some sort of like interoperability uh like that in the nearest
future or is that already happening thank you uh oh for sure
there'll be interoperability like already there is uh uh uh this model context protocol mcps uh
they exist which acts as like apis that uh apis that uh llms can use. So if you check, maybe you're,
I'm not as familiar with the platform that you use.
Maybe they already have an API for agents
that they can use and do things on that platform.
Beyond that, there'll be an authentication
and probably an authentication service
where you'll have to give your credentials
or the agents will have their own credentials.
And the identity is taken care by like a domain or anything any other service that your provider would have used
the platform would have used but interoperability is already starting to get there for it i'll give
you like this website this company this company is a part of the grid. It's called Composio. They are a Web2 company.
They've raised around 30 million.
Go on Composio's website.
They have over 100 plus connectors that you can use.
You can make any LLM, closed source or open source,
to do your job on Notion, on Slack, on whatever,
and create your own interoperable autonomous agents.
So check them out.
I don't know if they have this MCP for your Sonos platform,
but for a lot of other platforms, it already does exist.
Awesome.
Thank you very much, Abby.
I'm going to go to the third question and that was from MD. MD, I'm going to have you do the last and final question for Abby. MD Roman.
Yeah, we can hear you. Oh, pass. Okay. So then I'll go to, oh, so MD can't speak. Alec, I think you were up there. Can you still speak?
Alec, can you speak?
My microphone problem.
Yes, I'll pass.
Can you hear me?
I can hear you, Alec. Go ahead. How are you? Okay. I'm fine. I'm fine. Bestc, go ahead.
How are you?
Okay.
I'm fine.
I'm fine.
Best wishes from Saudi Arabia.
Thank you for hosting this and giving us information about what is ahead.
And I have a question about kind of sub-agents.
So we can create sub-domains.
And in the future, is it possible that we have
like this option that let's say Tesla is buying a dot agent domain and they have Tesla dot agent
but then they want to create the sub-domains or sub-agents like sales dot Tesla dot agent
marketing dot Tesla dot agent is this something it will work out in the future so one company has one main agent domain and they create a sub domain agents or sub
agents what do you think Abhi so I think if this goes but through I can and
everything then yes it's very well possible that if you have a certain
domain you can have
multiple sub domains off of it as well and it would also make a lot of sense
because if you look at just the hierarchy of different an agent might
itself has multiple agents that it is using that could be subagents for itself. So sales.tesla.agent could be something.
I think it's not only possible,
I think it's inevitable that this would be the case.
That's great to hear.
That's great to hear.
Thank you for your answer.
Okay, guys, I know we have tons more questions.
Abby, you were just a phenomenal guest today. You explained things so clearly and really in a value way. So thank you. Thank you. And thank you to the Sentinel team and to Sandeep and to the whole team. lovely to work with and very gracious and very thoughtful, very strategic, which I know is your
role, Abby. So thank you so much. Do you want to give the listeners one last point from you about
DotAgent? Yeah. And before I say that again, thanks a lot for hosting, Sandy. If I've been
a good guest, I'm not sure about that, but you have definitely been an incredible host.
So thank you for hosting.
And I think my one last thought on DotAgent
would be that we collaborated
because we saw a very big vision
and a very big vision
and a very asymmetric upside.
And this is an opportunity we wanted to give to our community.
And yeah, I would say just explore
if something catches your eye,
if something is interesting for you
and you can own that domain.
But at the end, if you wanna just see the journey
of how this domain goes, you are equally as welcome.
Right. So and thanks a lot for joining the space as well.
Yeah. Thank you for all of our whales, for all of the people. Darcy, I see you out there.
I haven't chatted with you in such a long time. We love all of our users, all of our UD fam.
Thank you for joining us. And if you have more questions, let us know.
It looks like, Abby, I've already got requests to bring you back on. So I'll have to, I'll ping you in Telegram about that too. Thank you guys so much for your time today. And Abby, thanks for calling in from Singapore and for your partnership. Thanks guys. Talk soon.
Thank you everyone. Bye.
