ShredTalk Ep.17

Recorded: Nov. 28, 2022 Duration: 0:27:03

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Let's just give it a couple minutes. I'm still waiting for Blah. Okay, perfect. He just got here. I see Mark in the house. I see Blah. I see Taylor. I see Hefe.
Let me pin the space at the top real quick and share and you know so that you guys could share with your fellow community members. Bye. How you doing today, man? Yo, can you me?
Yes sir, I can. How you been? I'm doing absolutely amazing. Today is my wife's birthday so we've been you know up and down all day. You know going to the beach picnic
soon to you know and just having a great birthday man how about yourself how's your day been amazing bro I mean my day just started it's 5 a.m. here so I'm just by my loan some bread
By my loam some great enjoying my company I love enjoying your guys company. Yeah, I was brilliant man. Um, but yeah today is uh another segment another beautiful segment. Let me pin real real quick to space at the top
I just pinned it. Let's just wait till the other shredded eight family members join up real quick. But guys, if you could just help me real quick to share this space like this, I would greatly appreciate that.
Okay, I'm so sorry for that before, but... Bligh, so from what I understand, we have new questions. Can you talk to me a little bit about the first... We're at 50%, right? This is week five.
day one. Can you talk to me a little bit about the progress of Shrek Camp, a little bit of the stats and so on and so forth? Sorry, man. I'm just writing up a quote tweet for this space. Just been some of these questions. I'm just going to hit it. Yeah. Okay. So we're halfway.
That's why I already met Jesus flies. It's crazy. So four weeks in, we're doing really well. I got to say this time around, we've had more clients just with some obstacles come up, which is like it's good and bad like from a coaching perspective. It's just a challenge for us, you know what I mean?
We had our heads together, we sort of convene on the weekends when we do the assessments and we've got our own chat going and we sort of talk about everyone's progress and the challenges and Taylor had quite a few of his clients that have been sick over the last two weeks so we've actually got a question which is really great.
good because people always want to know, "Hey, what should I do if I'm sick?" You know, especially if you're in a fat loss phase and you want to sort of like, you don't want to break up your momentum and your progress, but you've got to be realistic. So that's going to make for a really good question today. And we've had a fair bit of travel as well.
So travel is always interesting. It just adds in a layer of, hey, what are we doing in a plan B or a plan C? And we've talked about these kind of things in previous shred talks, right? But travel is always, it's hard for people. You don't have the scales that you're using. So either you don't have any results at all from a scale perspective or you use new scale
which we don't generally encourage because that can be completely different to the first ones and that could make you feel like you're going back once when you're not. So it's been a challenging week just from that perspective for a lot of the clients but you know we've got a lot of non-numerical wins if that makes sense as well.
which is really good to see. This is the stuff that's super important on how people's mental health has been, on what they're seeing visually, on some of the ways that they've attacked different obstacles, like travel and things like that, which has been really important and something to celebrate for sure.
Of course, man, of course, well said. But I do have a question though, not regarding specifically Shrek Camp. This week, a lot of people have actually texted me the end being asking how if we can refer them to
to work out programs without them necessarily being a part of Shrek Camp. How would that work exactly? Like I know Shredder Dave's has been pending some workout programs to sell individually later on if I'm not mistaken or provide to our holders.
But yeah, how would that work exactly if they missed out on Shrek Camp and they didn't necessarily enroll, but they're current holders, because I've had like four or five people no joke since I've posted the updates and stuff like that. They've been me, hey, you know, I want to get in
shape, I want to understand and get some work of programs from Shredded Apes. So how would that look like? Well, you've just hit the nylon head like that it's out there already. We can sort of let it know that the programs will be available on the web shops.
soon for individual purchase. You know, so if you're a holder, you'll still get your 40% discount, but it's basically the programs that I've written up and HFA has helped with me sort of put the whole thing together so they're a very professional looking product. We've just kind of worked
on the what would you call it like the blurbs I suppose that you will you will see when you go into the webshop so you know when you go to website and let's say you're looking at a range of 10 different training programs that I've written there what you want to be able to do is just be able to click on a little bit of read more and get a bit of the insiders to what that program is about and so
I think I should have put them up on the webshop when we're good and ready. So you'll be able to purchase from there. Complete the workouts. Sort of completely independent from the Shred Camp coaching.
So, okay, so I have it. Who is friends?
You're breaking up, bro.
Eleans are gonna get in his car.
a fellowship.
Oh, thank you, Rodgingberg.
Yeah, no, not any more. Thankfully. Can you hear me now? Okay, perfect. So my question before was, so he's a fellow Stone-day crewholder. Will he be able to buy the workout programs with Puff on the web shop? Yeah.
- The show will, yep, absolutely.
Okay, perfect, perfect, that sounds amazing man. So, okay, well, so now at least now I have an answer to what people have been asking me the most this week. I think that's super bullish. I was on a space, it was actually Marquis Space the other day and he told me like,
What you guys are all about and I broke down the project. So simple but at the same time so complete in a sense, right? Like we have the partnership programs, we have the products, we have the payment installments and SPL tokens from other collections.
We have the the shred cap and and everything else that we got going on like it's and obviously the art redesign. I mean, between all of it, I think we are one of the most, if not the most complete NFT project in Web 3. Honestly, and I honestly believe that
And I think we are the next up to become a blue chip if you know we are not already but you know But, but I know that you have some questions for us today What is the first question or the first topic that you would like to touch and bring on? All right, let me just check here. You know we need actually because you just raise
a good point, like, well, this is more specific to the area that usfit pros are involved in, which is the coaching right, is when it's put together like a short promotional video that explains the coaching, that's what you need. Okay, so we'll definitely work on something like that, because Taylor and I in our real life businesses, that's one of the things that we
would use to basically take away the uncertainty of people of when someone's looking at coaching they want to know what they get. You know, it's like I like explain it to me. I want to know so these spaces are a great way for us to get that message out. But what would be even better is for us to just put together a short promotional video whether it has people like myself Taylor and Eddie and it just explain
like if you are not a holder for instance and you're looking at getting into the project and you're looking at getting involved in the health services, what does it look like to get coached by us? You could sum that up in a video in 60 seconds, 90 seconds, and that would be great to have on hand as a resource for when you get into those kind of conversations.
Alright, I'm going to find these questions. Cool. Alright, question one. What happens if I can't push as hard this week as I had been in the week prior? Is there anything I should change or focus on? So this is a question of,
Obviously we have just finished week four in the trade care and so people are the fourth week on the same program. Now some of my clients will be continuing with the program that they're doing. They've got given, I think it's eight programs to choose from and there was some priorities between the different
programs like somewhere, some were legs focused, somewhere like chest and arms focused. But a lot of my guys are on programs with getting really good results and they know where the maxing out yet. So they're still continuing to make really good progress on the lifts. Some of them are still learning lifts as well and you can definitely get a lot of progress while that's happening. So there's no need to change.
a reaching a point like this is from one of my guys and he's like, "Oh, I just, you know, I had a week where I couldn't push out as much like what should I do is the time to change my program up." And that's the obvious first thing that comes to mind a lot when you kind of like have a week where you go in there and you're like, "You just can't do more reps or you can't do#
on the exercises and you think, "Ah, maybe I just need to change everything around." And what I would say to it is that it's not necessarily a choice that you have to go ahead and do that. Like, we all have those weeks in which it's like that journey to success. If you've ever seen that chart, that graph that they put up and if you zoom
I mean, you don't get frustrated at it, you just got to recognize it for it is what's always good to do. Like you're getting coached by us fit pros, we're going to ask you questions like, hey, how is your sleep? How is your recovery? How's your stress management going? Like, did you do anything else? Like, is what we're looking for is like some of the contributing factors that would make you potentially
effectual performance, so any of those type of things are really important to acknowledge. And that also sets the scene, like if someone gives me that question through the week where they kind of like they're woken up and they're just wrecked, they're just exhausted, you know, stuff has been going on. And they might say, "Hey, like this is how I feel like
Should I change anything and I would say no just go in there and listen to your body and You may find that you have to pull back for a little bit, okay, so it might be a case of doing What we call like a delude okay, and a delude is where we consider everything okay like the fatigue you've got your strength your
performance, even your motivation to train. If we see declines in these areas, what one of us coaches will do is consider, okay, maybe the client needs to just back off for a week, they need to go like 70% or 80% as hard. Okay. If we decide that, we'll often do pull the trigger in
one of two or three ways. The first is we might say look just lower the load this week by 25% go in there get it done but just it'll be an easier week for that perspective it's that will not affect your fat loss results in any way shape or form when you're in a fat loss phase that we're ensuring camp right now
while we encourage progression with your whites, it is actually not going to make that much difference. When you're in a muscle accrual phase, meaning you're in a caloric surplus, and the goal is purely to build muscle, it is going to make more of a difference. But in a fat loss phase, really what we're looking for is the preservation of muscle. That's the most important.
So when it comes to this D-load, we might pull the trigger and say, look, just lower the load a bit. We might, and this is probably one of my preferences, is to say lower the volume a little bit. And what I mean by that is the number of sets. So if you were doing 20 work sets per workout, I might say, I want you to reduce that to 15 work sets or even 12 work sets.
And someone can choose where that looks like they can look at their program and go, I can't like three sets of leg press. I'm going to make that two sets of that three sets of walking Londoners. I'm going to make that two sets. So they might just chop off, you know, a set off each of their exercises or they might just drop off two or three whole exercises out of the program that day. And that's another way of de-#
that is help drop the fatigue so that your energy comes back over the course of a week and that you're really ready to go and rocking for the week following. So that's just some of the things that we would say when it comes to having a week where you're not pushing it as hard, it's okay. There may be no need to change anything.
If it continues and you know, us fit pros are suspicious that you're what we call your systemic fatigue. So your overall exhaustion levels have climbed just due to the nature of like the progression, the fat loss is building up. The training is building up. Then we might encourage a D-load. D-load looks like what I just said.
We're going to make it easier somehow. Either we're going to drop the weight, we're going to drop the volume. Or we may even say, just drop a couple of whole sessions. Go do something different, go do some stretching sessions, some yoga, I've just some running, a walk or something like that. That could be another way as well. Taylor, have you got anything that you would add there, man? Other than what I've said.#
Oh, honestly not really man like you put your touch base on everything which is really good. Like just listen to how you perceive and how you went about it. It's playing it was really perfect. So I just even took some of those myself from it.
Actually, I can't remember like Taylor like when we were getting you ready for your comp earlier in the year was actually last month sorry. Did we do load you at all? I'm sure we did we think we did on your legs man, didn't we? Because Taylor's got some wicked massive legs right?
right. And by the thing is, is that like as you got leaner and leaner, like obviously the exhaustion builds up when you're getting to very low body fat percentage, I'm sure we pulled back on the legs training to some degree didn't we? We looked at the point where we didn't turn legs it
It was walking like a snout, half down, pally to the day, just to do the pure exhaustion. So yeah, I go understand this question quite well and how you've explained it is.
Alan, anything else you want to ask on that man?
No, man, that was that was actually brilliant. I took notes myself like I always think notes, you know, um, I'm not a home right now, so I had to take them on the phone, but um, this is mainly why I love short talks like it. It's very interesting because this past week with all the birthdays and thanks given and and you know, everything back to back to back to back.
back calories, but even if I'm conscious about it, on the workouts, on the trainings and taking care of my grandma, like this has been one of the, and it's crazy, right? Because things like this are always, always, always going to happen. Some things going to come up on wallier and prep wallier and training
And if I didn't have Shred Talk before and have My bad someone just called me while I'm talking about some things always gonna come over right? It's incredible. Oh, but you know if I did if I wasn't here learning on Shred Talk, I wouldn't have been able
to learn things like have a plan A, have a plan B, have a plan C, D, E, F, G and the whole alphabet. You gotta learn to be able to handle every situation that comes up. So the workouts have been very consistent even though some days I'm
so extremely tired that I just take it a little bit easy and the same thing goes for the meals. I always try to hit 2300 calories, 2300 calories even though they may not look the same. Like some days there's five meals spread up
Parts some days it's just one big meal and I try to like pivot from one point to another but always try and be as consistent as possible and I think if I didn't have this these types of spaces like this is my YouTube right this is where I get my research from actual pros
I've always wanted something like this, like the mentorship, the coaching, the teachings that you guys offer for me holding an NFT, like the value is incredible. Oh man, and I saw that the marathon runner Goldie was just here and he left. I wanted to bring him up.
I asked him some questions, but yeah, I'm like, that's absolutely incredible. And Taylor, how you doing, man? How are you doing today? - Good, man, good. Feeling really good. Just then super early in the morning, I mean, it's really seem a bit same thing as, "Blo, I just kind of feel that learning is in the money bill, so productivity." (laughs)
Yeah. I'm gonna hear that man. So, wait, so, so, blight, whenever I hear blight talk about you, he, he edifies you like a super human. So, uh, where did you get? So what's your background that before bodybuilding? Cause he said you weighed when you were a close to prep.
you were pushing on Dumbbell Press 185 I think while you were weighing 140 or 150 pounds and now he's he's telling me you have superhuman legs so have you always been an athlete?
I've got to try and do both of myself too much without answering and but at the same time.
As a kid, I've always played some type of pilot of sports as most people do and really enjoy that. So obviously that kind of carries on to my maybe my mental how approach weights in the sense like I used to do a lot of sprints.
I've always had that competitiveness in sports and that character we are getting to mind how I would approach everything I do in the gym, especially while the composing aspect of it which I find is a very big T.
and understand like just how to maneuver my body into certain positions when it comes to actually learning new exercises or trying to perfect exercises to a tee. So yeah, so I reckon it does take a big thing that helps me if like really push the limits a bit as well when to
pull the trigger or pull back and to reduce injuries as well. Superhuman strength. It's more just I reckon it's pure aggressiveness when it comes to that. I just really want it more than anything.
Brilliant man, really amazing. Um, why I would love to hear the second question though. Question two, alright, this is a good one because it kind of comes off the back of what we just talked about for question one. So, um, this is from one of Taylor's clients. I got COVID, what should I do with
training and nutrition. So it's like, it's that we just sort of said in regards to like exhaustion or kind of like, you know, just having a week where your strengths are not there and looking at some of the reasons why that may be, well, you know, now take the case you actually get sick, you know, whether it's, you know,
just the cold and flu or COVID or whatever it is. When you get sick, there is very, especially like proper sick, there is very little point to doing actual training. Even if you're trying to maintain the habit, like us coaches get that, it's really
important from like a mental aspect as well. But when you're actually genuinely sick, the problem is, is that like training becomes no longer a friendly stress. It becomes a stress that can prevent you from becoming well again. Okay. So
your energy within your body that you have, you know, it gets allocated to different systems within the body. And when you're sick, it needs to, you need to be able to allocate that energy towards your immune system. And the last thing you want to be doing is re-divoting that into your muscular skeletal system and your cardiovascular system.
them so that you can push out your training sessions. If you allocated that way, you divert that energy there, then your immune system is going to suffer. And that means that you can potentially draw out the length of time that you're sick for, you could get
worse, you know, with your symptoms because you're just not able to fight the infection as well anymore. And so what we usually say is this, and also there's the fact that you shouldn't be going to the gym, you know, obviously making other people sick. That's something that's probably a little bit courteous.
or I'm assuming there are connection issues. You guys still got me? Tell you still got me, man? I can hear that. Easy. It might just be, Alan.
And so, yeah, so if you do get sick, especially in the acute phase, like when you've got a lot of symptoms, you shouldn't be going to the gym. It's okay to get outside, do a little bit of physical movement, but you shouldn't be taxing the body in a way that is diverting your energy
towards the muscles rather than the immune system. It's when you're coming back out of that sickness that's important. Okay, and so what I said that is like when you're okay to train again, generally what I say to my clients is this, I'm like you have a you have a feel out session and that feel out session is almost similar to those delusional
load sessions that I talked about in the previous question. That looks like this. You might go into the gym and literally just do 10 to 12 work sets. If you were normally doing 15 to 20 work sets in a session, if that was your normal, go in there and do like 50% of that. Don't go back and try and do the same
weight that you shifted before you got sick. You go out and start at maybe 50% of the load or 60% of the load. And the reason is that first session back, you're going to go, you're going to eat that day, you're going to go to sleep. And my litmus test, like the thing that I'm asking my clients is like, how do you feel the next day when you wake up? Do you feel like
you're still continuing to get resolved this infection or do you feel like that training session kind of set you back a bit? That training session set you back a bit, then you need to take a few more days off training. It's supposed that, okay? That's why you went and kind of did a test session. If you feel good after that first session, then I'm like, look, the goal is