Side space with Tanukiverse

Recorded: Feb. 8, 2024 Duration: 0:46:19

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Hi guys, GM, GM Hello, hello, how is it going?
All good, all good.
Who am I speaking to from the SIDXYZ team?
I'm Yanis, so the community manager.
Nice, Yanis.
Nice to meet you.
You're from France?
Yeah, I'm from France, but we're based in Dubai right now.
Oh, nice, nice, nice.
Nice to meet Yanis.
I'm Kush.
I'm the founder and creator of Tanukiverse and we are going to have a great session today.
Let's wait for more people to join in.
Yeah, nice to meet you too.
Nice to meet you, my friend.
We have people joining in, we have Minaduchan, Tanuki, Kevin, you're Kevin, nice to see you
and Valentin, you're Valentin, nice to see you, my friend.
You're going to have a chill, laid back space where we're going to discuss a lot of things
what we are building in Tanukiverse and it's going to be a whole new lot of excitement and
a lot of good talks.
Let's just wait.
I'll just retweet the space so that we have more people coming in.
Let me just retweet the space and guys, please retweet the space, all of you, if you are
here, so that we have Isha is also here, hi Isha.
Hi, how are you?
Let's just wait like a few minutes so more people are coming, don't hesitate to retweet
the space and yeah, we'll start really soon.
Let me play a song for the people till then, you know, like people will be like waiting
for the while, so I'll just play a song like maybe a good song, right?
All right, let's go, give me one second is the advertisement, such a bad start to a song.
All right, let's go, give me one second, let's go, give me one second, give me one second,
let's go, give me one second, give me one second, give me one second, give me one second,
So I think it's, we are already five minutes past, so I think, Janice, I think we can get
I think people will join in their due time.
Yeah, yeah, let's go, let's go.
So first of all, how are you doing today?
I'm doing good.
First of all, thank you to SiteXYZ and to SiteSpaces for organizing this.
I really like the name SiteSpace and yeah, it's a great opportunity to be here with you
guys and I am, it's already, I'm speaking to you guys from the future.
I'm in Japan, so it's already Friday for me.
So hello from the future, guys.
Hello, hello.
First, first of all, what's the new keywords?
Can you present your products to the community?
Yeah, so before I go into the community and the product, I'll just give a short intro
about myself.
So hi, everyone.
My name is, as the profile suggests, my name is Kush.
My full name is Kushagra, but it's difficult for everyone to pronounce my name.
So my name is Kush and I'm from India, but I'm based in Japan for the last six years.
I live in Tokyo and I have been working in the Japanese anime industry.
I don't know how many of you here are Japanese anime fans, but I've been associated with,
I think close to 30, 35 anime shows in Japan, like Yu-Gi-Oh or Jo-Jo or Yohamushi Petal
Bin and Saga, Riker is called it in Zero and many such anime shows.
So I've made my name as a foreign Indian anime creator in Japan and I have started
this journey of my anime life in the web3 with this new inbred homegrown and community-based
IP called Tanuki-verse.
So Tanuki-verse is basically an overarching IP where we are developing the new folklore
style of storytelling and also developing different interactive mediums of how we actually
expand the storytelling form, for example, the manga or the interactive games, basically
these two things, apart from the real world merchandise assets of how any IP in Japan
or in the world is grown, right?
For example, if your fans Pokemon or if your fans of, I think Dragon Ball, you might see
like the cartoon is the fundamental, the characters are the fundamental, but then there is how
different toys and games and fashion and all these things come out of the IP.
So this is my first and foremost attempt in the web3 as a founder to grow something along
with the community decently and Tanuki-verse is in section of it.
All right, that's nice.
You've launched Tanuki-londe, so it's an explore to earn game.
Can you explain what is the principle and how the game works exactly?
So we have actually started the IP with the idea of launching the game, but we have not
been able to launch the game yet in the explore to earn that we are talking about.
We have launched some explore to earn mini games before in the IP, but I think, and I'll
be very honest in this space, I think we started this IP in the heart of the bear market and
learned quite a lot of things of how to grow an IP and how to kind of grow with the people
and how everything in terms of NFT projects and hype and all these things are controlled.
So I think I have come a long way as a founder in trying to understand how to grow an IP.
We have actually pivoted before we were this, we are just actually making a game, a manga
before, but we understood like manga is not something that is a long term revenue making
source and because of the way the oligarch society is in the anime and manga field in
Japan and having pivoted from different things.
And at the time we were also working on idea of a network state, but having learned the
hard way we came with a notion that we are going to make a 2D platformer game to grow
the IP and this is just me trying to take a page from the playbook of Shigeru-san who
is the creator of Mario.
Having learned that I came with a vision of making an IP, you know, like I'll make a IP
like Pokemon and stuff like that.
But I think even these kind of big IPs started from a small game.
So fundamentally the IPs become big over time.
Like Pokemon became Pokemon 30 years down in time right 1980s they started on 1986.
And but I think that is what has been understood and now we are actually going to devise a
small not a mini but a 2D platformer story driven game in the coming few months that
we are going to work upon.
And that is going to talk about the Tanuki line that is our going to be our fundamental
you know, kind of a universe that we are creating and the character called Minato.
So the character Minato which is also she'll be joining the space as well in due time.
So Minato is going to be the main protagonist of Tanuki-verse that we are going to build.
And from the point of getting the IP rolling, we'll be working in both the fundamentals
of web2 and web3 not just trying to do a play to one game because as much as I've tried
to grow and learn from the space, I've learned that there are different aspects of finance
and technology that are involved in doing a play to one.
And if the idea of tokenomics does not sit well, it's going to look like a Ponzi scheme.
So in order to grow the IP, we are going to go into a dual idea of merging web2 and web3
and come out with a 2D platformer game like Hollow Knights or Hoa or those kind of things.
So that is going to be our next go to model product.
All right, that looks good.
You've talked a bit about the manga.
Can you talk a bit more about it?
Like how did you come up with this idea?
And what are what were and what are the goals behind this manga?
So yes, I think first of all, before we start talking about manga, I'd just like to talk
about Tanuki what the Tanuki is.
So I think a lot of you might have not known about this, but Tanuki is this creature found
in Japan, which is basically looks like a raccoon, but it's actually a dog.
It's mostly only found in Japan.
Nowadays, it's been spotted in Sweden, Korea and China too.
But like some other species of Tanuki, but they actually originated from Japan and Tanuki
in Japanese is called Tanuki in English is also called Tanuki.
So if you search P-A-N-U-K-I, you will be able to Google see an animal which looks like
a raccoon, but is actually a dog.
And in Japan, these creatures are the gods of shape shifting by in the folklore and the
mythology.
And they have a superpower of shape shifting stored in a part of their body.
Janice, do you have any guesses which part of the body is this superpower stored in?
No, not at all.
Yeah, take a great guess.
Sorry, can you can you repeat, please?
I mean, so they have a superpower stored in the part of their body.
A body part has a superpower of shape shifting like any shape and size.
They can become human.
They can become a guitar.
They can become a train.
They can take any shape and they have the superpower and a part of their body.
So which body part could it be?
Can you take a guess on that?
I don't know, man.
I would say, I would say the heart.
The heart.
OK, that's a good guess.
The body part which they have this superpower stored is drum rolls, their testicular balls.
So in Japan, like the Tanuki's balls is the superpower of what they hold.
So in Japan, they worship the Tanuki balls in the temples and the shrines.
And they say that Tanuki's balls of gold, called Kintama, is where all the powers come
in a Tanuki.
So that's the notorious cute creature.
And this is the IP that we are creating about.
All right.
All right.
How did you come up with all this ecosystem with the, like you said, the Tanuki, et cetera?
So when I was actually starting to work in Web3 with this IP, the end of 2021 was starting
I was seeing a lot of different animals popping up in the Web3 space, like the bodeep was
Then there was other animals also, like in Solana ecosystem, and like the ones we know
yesterday, the froganas.
And then they were like different, different characters everywhere, every animal.
And the other thing that was working quite a lot was the Japanese IP, like Japanese IP
and animals.
So because I was also learning along while growing in the space, I thought of taking
something together and building something which will combine these two ideas.
And that's where I thought of a Japanese IP and Japanese animal, cute animal.
I think Tanuki was something that came to my mind because first of all, it's very unique.
And second of all, it has a rich story and history.
And third, there's the Studio Ghibli.
I don't know how many of you here know Studio Ghibli.
So it's like one of the best anime studios in Japan.
And they launched a movie in 1992 called Pompoko, P-O-M, P-O-K-O, which talks about the life
of Tanukis.
This movie is also present on Netflix.
So I really suggest you guys to watch this animated cartoon movie.
So it talks about the life of Tanuki.
And I think that was when I came to Japan from India, I always grew up watching the
movies by Tata Hata Isao-san, who was the co-founder of Studio Ghibli.
And he was the director of Pompoko.
So I think that all of these things at the distance that I took was a mix of how doing
a cute feature IP along with the anime content.
And then the inspiration from Studio Ghibli was the one that made me decide that probably
I would want to create Tanuki-based character and Tanuki versus an IP.
Yeah, that's cool.
That sounds really nice.
Can you tell us a bit about the current roadmap of the project?
Like right now, where are you?
And what are the next steps for Tanuki-verse?
So I think we have gone through a lot of iterations of the roadmap since what we have
launched.
Right now, what we have done is, thankfully, I have been supported by a lot of nice community
members in the space.
Also, three of them are here right now, it's Kevin, Isha and Shotsush, they are all my
Tanuki holders, and have stayed with me throughout and building the IP and supporting me as a
I think when we started the IP, we had multiple roadmaps, and I'll be very honest, like any
other NFP project launches, like, oh, we will do this, we will do that, you know, we
will create an ecosystem where it will be like this and that, but then I should do like,
it's stupid to make promises, which are actually visions, but it's very difficult to implement.
And as an IP, we have changed and kind of merged quite a different ways of roadmap.
But we eventually come to the idea that, you know, in order to grow the IP, it's a long
term game.
We don't have to look at short term thing, the people who invested the money, I want
to make sure that people become a part of an overarching picture and IP, which is has
legacy 100 years down the lane.
So right now, with the say, we have sold around 700 NFTs in 2022, November, when Ethereum
was just around 950 to $1,050.
And we made a very small community of 350 people and just a small Genesis Tanuki collection.
We have not launched any PFP or a big collection till now.
And because we are also experimenting learning how to grow an IP, so we did a very small
Genesis collection and have kind of learned and done things here and there.
But having said that, we have also created quite a lot of things that a lot of projects
have not ever delivered.
For example, we in Tanuki was have launched our manga, which is 100 page manga already
that we actually work on the storyline.
And I also have Isha here who's, you know, kind of from Tanuki was account Hi, Isha,
I think you're here.
So I speak Isha, I would also like you to kind of pin up the manga pages and you know
the the things that we are talking about, probably if you can find.
So we have worked on manga storylines, which is talking about how the story goes.
And apart from that, we have also launched a set of Tanuki beers in Japan, we partnered
with a local government of Yamanashi Prefecture in the heart of Mount Fuji.
And I think Kevin here has drank all three beers of Tanuki.
So he knows he lives in Singapore, so he ordered the beers and Tanuki beers were launched because
in Japanese folklore, the Tanukis drink alcohol.
So we partnered with a local brewery and this was also not using the treasury money.
This was using a grant from the Japanese government and we launched a Tanuki beer and provided
it for free for all of our holders.
So these are the part of the roadmap that we delivered.
But moving on in order to scale the IP and to make it a big community and profitable
business, we are working on making a game.
And thankfully, I would not take any names right now.
But we have been approached by because seeing that we are building this IP quite so significantly
since so such a long time, we have been approached by some good amount of accelerators that we
are right now talking to and are going to be a part of a gaming accelerator cohort.
I won't take the names right now, but moving forward, we are going to actually be incorporated
in one of the accelerator programs where we'll be actually coming out with our 2D platform
game to make sure that people in Web2 and Web3 are equally able to enjoy the IP and
the contents we're developing.
All right, the mixing with the NFTs and the gaming is something interesting.
How do you manage that NFT part in your project to make it match with the gaming ecosystem
that you will create?
I think that's a very, very good question.
So I think what we are trying to achieve in this ecosystem is that we are not trying to
make sure that, see, and I'll be talking to you as a user, like a person to person.
I would say me as a gamer, irrespective of Web3 or Web2, first of all, the game needs
to be interesting.
That's the first and foremost fundamental principle of making a game, right?
As a user, I do not really, I mean, most of the times I do not really care that it's a
Web2 game or Web3 game, I just need to have fun.
So our first, we are going from the first principle of trying to make a game where the
game dynamics and the game is becoming interesting and like storytelling point of view is becoming
more interesting for the user.
Then why our decision also to go with a hybrid model is because we have understood that going
just Web3 is probably not the, in my opinion, I might be wrong, it's probably not the right
way to kind of scale and make sure that there's a profitable business model for you.
As much as I've tried to learn in Web3, I have still understood that most of the NFT projects
in the Web3, not most, I think every, for me, I have not found any, except Pudgy Penguins,
maybe any NFT project which has come out with a sustainable business model in my perspective.
And that also happened because Pudgy went into the Web2 part of things, making sure
that there are more adopters of the IP in the Web2 area of things.
So what we are trying to do is make a game which is also accessible to the Web2 users
through Steam, let's say.
So we are actually trying to make a Unity or Godot based game, a browser game, where
the people on Steam can also play it.
But in the Web3 part of things, we are going to absorb all the data source in the blockchain
technology.
Not that there will be something in the in-game mechanics as such will be a part of the Web3
suddenly.
But what we are going to do, there'll be expansion packs altogether, where a Web3 user will be
able to play this game through different interactions and Web2 user will be able to play a game with
a different interaction.
And this has been very meticulously planned along with our game designer and game developer
who are helping us build the IP, along with the accelerators who are going to be a part
of building this ecosystem altogether.
So I think when an investor comes into investing into your IP, for them, they have to find
And right now, from an investor's perspective, the Web3 games really the gamification model
has not really successfully worked well.
So what we are trying to do, we are creating a game, but we are absorbing the data on the
blockchain and creating certain mechanics where you as a user or you as a gamer can
earn certain, you know, like in pub GVF skins and different weapons that we can collect.
So we are able to bring some of these in-game assets in the form of the tokens on the blockchain
but also integrate the user profiling.
For example, if you are a part of any gamer community, you would know that when you play
as a community, like there's a 10,000 gamers playing it, everyone is looking for a leaderboard
points for badges and for certain aspects.
There's another book called the Gaming Octolysis Analysis, which talks about what are the eight
divisions of how gamification is done.
I would really suggest reading that book.
So it talks about when you make a game, you have to make sure that it's a community event.
For example, when you play Fortnite, you have something you want to achieve collectively
as a team.
So in this persona of building a storytelling 2D platform, we are also making sure that
every user has a pertinent profile, which will be actually stored on our own homepage
or whatever we create in the form of the product.
And that persona of having that data collection will be part of which will be on the blockchain.
But apart from that, what we are also using the technology, because I think apart from
the ownership aspect of things, it also talks heavily about how the data is transferred
in an extreme between the people, we are going to create certain mechanics where the user
would be able to create their own maps, will be able to alter their own designs while coming
into the play.
And we'll be creating a model for different NFT communities to come.
And for example, here, Sota is here in the space, or like, you know, Hirotoshi in the
space, they can use, Sota can use his sappy seal, and Hirotoshi can use his Azuki ape
into the R world and change the game dynamics.
For example, in R world, the Minato is the main character, the Minato is this PFP that
you can see on Isha.
So this girl is going to have a certain speed in the game, certain fly time, certain, you
know, jump time and all these game dynamics.
But if a different character from another NFT project or from another IP comes into
the game, they have a different dynamics of speeding, of jumping of superpowers.
And this is something we call game modding.
So this is something we'll be enabling on the blockchain, where we'll be enabling different
communities to feel their own characters and be a part integrated into the game.
So these are some of the experimental yet interesting aspects of blockchain we are actually
trying to integrate with the game.
Earlier, we were actually also thinking of launching a token that we still have thought
But as honest as I can be, I'm not a financial economics guy.
So I'm not the right person to answer this.
And I don't have on myself the confidence to come out with the right tokenomics to bring
this forward.
So I might need the help of the right people in the industry of from, you know, someone
who understands tokenomics and how the because we have a point in the market, and we have
so many coins lying around, you know, to bring out the coin into the space where there
is already an abundance of everything, would not really make sense until unless there's
a particular utility that I can solve in the space, right.
So I would vary or I would actually say probably doing the token or something would not be
readily what we have at the back of the mind.
But probably doing the data storage and these experiments with the how the blockchain technology
can interact with the game engine is something we are looking forward to work with the games
that we come out with.
Yeah, that that sounds really, really promising.
And that's funny that you've talked about the gamification of this actually, I've read
the book like last week.
So that's, that's really, really interesting.
As a project that was long launched like nearly two years ago, and still building during this
bear market, how do you manage the community?
How do you keep the people like engaged into your project?
So I think that's a very good question.
And honestly speaking, we have seen everything in our community, you know, I've seen the
rise of my NFTs, I've seen the fall of my NFTs, I've seen people saying I'm the best
founder, I see people saying I'm the worst founder, I've been named as the next big thing
I've been named as a scammer.
So I've seen it all honestly, right.
And that's the best part, like because you never learn so much as much as you learn in
this space.
So when there was a time when my NFTs were minting, and people were really praising like,
oh my god, like amazing, dude, you have done so much.
There was a time when the NFTs, the Tanuki NFTs were like 0.25 Ethereum.
So people are like, oh, you're amazing, you're doing so much well.
And there was a time when the Tanuki NFTs were like 0.01 Ethereum.
So at that time, I was the worst founder ever, I was a scammer altogether, you know.
So I'll be very honest, this has been the truth of the hour.
And I've seen people come in, buy in and exit out as well.
So I have seen people change the course of time and I don't blame them.
It's because it was my indecisiveness and my lack of understanding of the market as
well as the truth of how my potential lies.
So I think as much as I tried to engage my community, one thing that has stayed all in
all in due time and testament of this or how the people have joined in this space is that
I have been a very communicative and a very proactive founder.
Like I make sure that I'm doxed.
I make sure that I meet my community members face to face.
I make sure that I listen to all the criticism that they have.
For example, you know, there's always this dilemma as a founder, when you build something,
you start to believe that whatever you are building is the right product and fuck the
No one understands what I'm building.
But that's probably sometimes and most of the times not the right way.
I think you have to trust the facts and or the data and the market rather than just going
on your guts.
So there are a lot of learnings that I've had while building this project and to keep
the engagement intact.
What I do is I keep organizing different events or I keep organizing different online meetups.
You know, I make sure that I meet my holders one on one.
These are some of the basic efforts I do.
And right now, since we are not a big community and I'm like one of the rare Indian guys who
is made into Japanese anime space and speaks Japanese and one with all these big anime
shows like right now, I'm also in talks with this another show called One Piece to do some
scenes for One Piece.
So you know, I think this is probably people knowing that okay, maybe he's not like, I'll
just give you a short example.
There is this guy called Farmer-san who is one of the Japanese holders.
He holds like six or seven of my Tanuki NFTs.
I met him like twice in my entire life and he makes sure that he sometimes drives two
hours away just to come and meet me and go away.
So last time when we met like the last almost eight months ago and we met when my NFTs were
like 0.01 Ethereum, right, it was very, very down because people were really bad like okay,
what is happening?
What is not going to happen?
And I asked him Farmer-san, I'm so sorry, you minted at, you know, the Armin price was
0.06 Ethereum and at that time the Ethereum was $900.
So it was close to around $55 or something like that we minted.
So I was extremely sorry to him like, you know, you spent $50 and then right now that
if the flow price is 0.05 or something.
So I was like, because of me, your NFTs are down, right?
And he was like, no, no, no, Kushasan, don't worry.
And I said, why do you say so?
Why do you believe in me?
He said, dude, I spent $100, $200 over NFT, I made that money in the next one day.
And I am not buying this, you did not put a gun to my face and ask me to buy this NFT.
I played this gamble by myself, right?
And for him, it was like this idea for me to play with the NFTs was my own.
And you don't owe me any explanation.
But for you to come out and meet me and still listen to what I have to say, it means a lot.
For me, I'm actually making a new friend who he has never met a foreigner before.
So for him, getting a Tanuki NFT was a way to actually talk to a guy who is from India
and who is working this all on his own.
And beyond that, he said that, Kushasan, I bought this for $200, but I'm looking at
10 years in time.
I think you have a potential to become a huge individual 10 years in time.
So for me, buying this NFT is a token for me to be connected to you through blockchain.
And that was as simple as the expectation that he had.
But some people had the expectations when they bought, like, probably we have $100
and we are spending to you, you might make it to $10,000.
And I don't blame them.
That's just how sentiment in the marketplace.
So I've had seen all different types of supporters and, you know, kind of community people who
come out and do things.
But I try as much as I do to keep open and to keep talking to my community.
And I have learned it the right way, or the difficult way that you have to be communicative
and you have to kind of responsive to the people.
I think that is where a fine line of trust happens, because fundamentally, trust is the
only thing which is not transactional, right?
You cannot build trust or gain trust or, you know, do that.
I think it's once it's lost, it's lost.
Also just high to Dr. Maddy, who just is also one of our OG supporters and OG Tanuki holders
who had hopped into the space, great guide to the solar ecosystem.
All right.
That's really nice.
Really nice to be this close to the community.
That's really inspiring.
And by the way, we have a community of free builders, like you can see SOTA, that's content
creators, same for crypto maestro, they are style ciders.
So basically we were teaching them to create content and by growing their audiences, they
could become like ambassadors for like blockchains or stuff like that.
And at the end of this growth path, they become like project founders, et cetera, using
by leveraging their audience, et cetera.
So the question for you and the community would be, what is the best advice that you
could give to someone that wants to build its own web free project?
Wow, that's a very wild one and everyone would have a different answer to this.
I can just speak from my experience of building something last two years.
I think the way and when I started to NFTs back in 2020 and how the NFTs are being perceived
right now, the entire notion of the ownership of a particular digital token has changed.
Back in the day, when 2021, we saw so many NFTs come into the market and almost 95% of
those were scams.
And honestly, I also have a lot of, I'm also a collector, like I have a good amount of
NFTs that I've collected altogether, right?
And I have like Clonax, I have Azuki, I have Tanuki, I have, you know, all these, you know,
what do you call goblins and I've collected all these things.
And for me, collecting community was a way to connect with the people where I might not
have any other chance to know, actually.
So I have made so much of social contact and social capital that I've collected just
because of the virtue of holding an NFT.
For example, Sota's PFP here is a sappy seal, I now the founder of sappy seal and me, we
are friends and we follow each other, right?
So like, this is how you actually connect with the people and build it all together.
And for me, that was the main idea of actually NFTs represented the communities, right?
Let's go to culture or go to community market.
But while building a project, what happens is sometimes you over promise and under deliver,
or sometimes you under promise and you over deliver.
So I think it's better to have the second game of play.
Something that I did really wrong in my implementation in Tanuki was, I built the project for one
years before minting it.
So before minting the project, I had already launched three anime, four anime videos.
I had already launched 50 pages of manga, I had already launched t shirts, I had already
launched three mini games, four mini games that we had created.
And all of this I had been bootstrapping and building on my own.
And I did not mint the NFT before that.
So what happened when the NFT was minted, the people who actually minted NFT had seen
me build all of this, right?
And all of this was bootstrapped, it came at the cost.
So what happened every time after that, when I was launching a manga, but every time when
I was launching another mini game, people were like, this is something that we have
already seen you doing before the mint.
What is new?
And I was like, oh my fucking God, like what have I done?
Like I have set the bar so high, that now people expect me to actually do something
way out of the park.
And just on the other side of it, I have seen other projects who have done nothing just
by the virtue of hyping and kind of talking on to the spaces and talking to KOLs and just
saying, oh my God, something is coming.
And I think I don't blame them.
That's how the web three works.
I think marketing actually determines how and what people will perceive of your project
because in this space of web three sensation and hype is the real currency, right?
People really buy up on the hype.
I think there's a saying that, what is that?
FOMO is the point where you buy and alpha is the point where you sell.
So how you hold information in the space in the web three is extremely crucial on how
your project is going to be perceived in the market.
So I think that was one of the first advices is we actually over delivered even before
the mint.
So people are somehow very much bored of how to, you know, kind of perceive like this is
something you have been doing before the mint.
And also I think we were thinking very far away from the practicality.
Honestly I was talking that I would become like an Axie infinity kind of game or something
like that without even thinking that the kind of things that they were going through and
their market was good enough, right?
I met the founder of Axie infinity that they came to Japan and we had great amount of talks
and they are also sort of in a rut right now, right?
Not that I'm blaming or cursing them, but they themselves told them like what they were
doing with Axie infinity at that point in time when the market was good was something
But as soon as the market crashed, the tokenomics fell on its own, right?
So I think right now, as much as we are propagating in the market for your web three project,
you have to be very practical that you should have a business model of how you're going
to grow the treasury or the community that you have.
For example, for me making this game, why I'm making the game is this is the only way
I know I can make sure that the IP reaches to most of the people and we are able to earn
some money so that the people who have bought in can also say that probably something we
supported early on has a result right now, right?
And probably one of the utilities that we are also thinking in the near future and this
is not promised and this is not me, like this is not, please don't take it at the face value,
but we are trying to understand different ways on how an NFT could also be, you know,
how this collection called plague, the founder, they have also done that the NFT holder can
actually contain some equity into the whatever the product they come out with.
So we might be actually looking and trying to work on certain economics where the if
by the virtue of you holding a Genesis Tankey NFT, you will be able to claim certain percentage
of the treasury and make sure that you also have profits along with us so so that it feels
like a family, you know, this is a very important thing that you want to do in a web project.
Go along with your community, guys, even if you're feeling, you know, it's like a family.
Like when you go, you go out, you're driving a car, you commit a mistake, but you come
home and you're like, should I just park the car inside the garage, not tell my parents
or should I just go and tell them, dude, I fucked up.
So it's better if you go and tell them that he fucked up because they'll not kill you
over that.
Even that's the same thing with NFT space.
I think even if some people might want to curse you, but if you are being honest, I
think it will be for your better own good.
And I think that is something that we're trying to achieve through decentralization is that
we have a communicative and transparency all accordingly in how the information is being
exchanged.
So those are my two cents of advice is somehow that I think that you should also always do
while making a project.
We also have Shinsan, who has just joined the space, who is also a Tanuki holder from
Japan and he's also like one of the team members of Japan Open Chain, which is one of the layer
one blockchains, emerging layer one blockchains working in Japan and one of the biggest things
to come in the market.
And this is what I'm saying, like, you know, when you are launching a project, you make
connections with the people that you never know you ever, ever meet in your life.
So this is this is how it is.
This is my some of my advice is that I can give.
And one thing, lastly, before I close this answer, guys, keep building.
I think the way that I'm speaking right now with so much confidence, so much understanding
is because I have thoroughly built this IP without doing any rock or without any making
any fake, like, you know, kind of doing anything wrong to anyone.
I've just been constantly building this IP.
And though my progress has been slow, though, my community has not seen me come out with
any product in the last six months, but I'm now in a good vicinity of the people.
I have great connections.
And I am hoping hopefully in the next next two, three months, I'll be able to come up
with a solution that will be able to process the idea of making our game to the next level
with the accelerated programs that we're talking to.
So yeah, that's that's what my answer contains.
All right.
Thank you for for this advice.
Do you guys do you guys have any questions in the audience?
If you have any question, make sure to raise your hand and we will give you the mic.
I think maybe people.
Yep, guys, if you don't, please let me know whenever I am here.
I just want to say, you know, Toshi Nakamoto, I love a zookeep.
I've always loved a zookeep as an IP, as an artwork that I have always wanted to get
an zookeep since I started to have an I.N.
Maybe in the near future, I'll definitely buy one.
I just wanted to point it out.
I extremely love this zookeep and especially his zookeep that we are seeing right now.
So yeah, man, I mean, definitely that's that's what we think of.
You buy art, you buy an NFT for the kind of attachment that you see with it, right?
For me, looking at my right now, which is a dokyo, which is an avalanche based project.
And one good thing that about Tanuki was is that you have not launched a 10000 or 8000
PFP collection yet.
So you know what, we have built a good amount of communication or contacts in this space,
but we have not actually diluted our collection.
We have not launched a full-fledged big collection.
So we are also when the after bear market has gone and all with the learnings and making
the right connects and knowing what are the insides and outsides of making a collection
work, how the tokenomics, how the hype, how the pump and dump works and all those things.
I think now we are well placed that in the next market, if we want to launch a PFP collection
and make sure that we are able to bring that to our interaction of the gaming universe
that we create, we are as well set because now we have learned the hard way and the kind
of knowledge, the kind of connections and the kind of understanding and the kind of
confidence we are riding.
I think Tanuki was going to go all the way and it is a promise that I made to myself
somehow that irrespective of whatever happens, I'm not going to ditch this IP because if
I'm ditching this IP, I'm ditching a part of myself because this is my brainchild and
this is something I poured my heart into.
So yeah, one way or the other, we are going to make something good out of this.
That's what I can say for sure.
All right, all right.
So there are no questions.
Any closing words on your side?
Before closing, I just want to say, not about Tanuki was, I want to say SideXYZ.
You guys are amazing.
We are a user of your platform.
You can see that the links in Tanuki was and Minato are linked on SideXYZ and also why
my supporter of SideXYZ is more than the product.
I think the product is really good, but it's just your team.
I think I've spoken to your founder and he or she was the one, I think you have two co-founders,
one is a female and one is a male.
If I remember correctly, I might be wrong, but they reached out to me and while we were
working and SideXYZ was still a small entity back then and they were the ones who have
been constantly building and reached out and asked us, we'd love to have you and associate
as a partner.
The hustle and the grind that your founders showed was what determined me.
I think that's how it is in Web2 or Web3.
Before anything, the founder is the product, the investors, the people, even everyone bets
on the founder.
If they see that the founder is good, they think that they would build something nice
in this space, even if not anything, but that's why you trust something because of who they
are backed or represented by.
So I just want to shout out, give a shout out to you guys.
You have come a long way from what I've seen in the last two years.
From seeing you without any tick marks to seeing you actually being able to have a yellow
tick mark, that's a great, great kind of achievement in itself.
And I've seen the SideXYZ logo also evolve all over the years.
So I've been one of the earliest, earliest users of the product and I'm a happy consumer
and user as well.
I just want to say great, great things you have done and achieved in this space.
And of course, the exhibit is the people participating in this space listen to you and to us.
Thank you for your kind words and thank you for being here, for showing up and sharing
all these insights about Web3 and all of your projects, et cetera.
That was a great moment.
Thank you everyone, Sota, GreekNoot, et cetera.
Thank you guys for being here.
Thank you for, for supporting us.
And yeah, let's, let's build, go build guys and see you, see you soon.
Thank you again, Kush.
Thank you, Yannis.
Thank you, everyone.
Love you guys.
Good night.
We have some minutes.