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Recorded: March 9, 2026 Duration: 1:03:40Space Recording
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Thank you. Thank you. Hello, hello, is this him working?
I hear you.
Okay, is someone else speaking?
Is I don't hear anything
not no one else is speaking we were just waiting to kick off the show here so but we can hear you
oh can you hear me now yeah yeah yeah you're good i was here giving the intro just realized
that my microphone is off yeah rookie mistake no, I just want to say welcome everybody to the small cap space for another great conversation. It's great to have the crew back.
Everyone is here. And Ben, I'll pass it over to you and we'll just get right into it. And
love to hear what you're looking at, how things are going. And happy to have you back with the
crew this week, as well as Dougie and everybody else, Laptop Travel. Happy to be here. Those of you that are in the audience, if you
haven't done so yet, I highly recommend you just kind of share this out, drop a little comment. It
would help us. But pass to you, my friend, Ben. Yes, I missed you guys last week. I was a doctor's
appointment and I'll try to battle through this. I got a little bit of a cough. So last week, I
guess, was Monday was right after the war kicked off.
So, I mean, that's what it's all about, been about for me, even leading up into that.
People who have been in my community know that I was thinking that war would come much earlier.
Pretty much every weekend I was hedged up for war.
And it happened last weekend. So I was all hedged up and had a very good day last week, a very good week last week, last Monday and then throughout the week.
And, you know, that's where my head's been. basically been at like red alert for most of last week, uh, which for me means being mostly in cash at the end of the day and looking at,
you know,
shorts or hedges.
And when I say hedges,
it doesn't necessarily mean a short,
it could be a,
a long worst stock would also be a hedge.
Like one of my best plays was Raytheon,
not a,
not a,
micro cap or RTX used to be called Raytheon.
so that's where my focus has been. And, you know,
I think right now the only thing that matters is the price of oil. And, you know, that level that
I think is important is $100 just for psychological reasons, and we're below it now. So basically, I've been saying this for a while,
and I'm going to continue saying it,
that if oil gets above 100, it's obviously bad for the market.
And if it stays above it, it's very bad for the market.
We dropped below 100 here today,
and I think that's the sole reason you're seeing a bid in the market.
Well, it's the sole reason, but, you know, markets – I was looking for a bounce off the 200 DMA on the major indices,
and we got it, but we got it, like, in the overnight market.
So if you look at the daily chart, it doesn't really show.
But if you look at the extended hours data, you'll see that pretty much all the major indices either touched or came within, you know, a couple dollars of the 200-day moving average.
And that was actually my target last Monday.
And it didn't hit.
And I was surprised it didn't hit last Monday.
And we ended up getting it a week later after some escalation or some concern about oil here with the war.
And, you know, it's a good day.
We're back below 100.
It doesn't mean we're going to stay below 100 on oil.
And I have to, you know, decide, you know, every day when I write my macro note,
at some point I'll make a decision that, hey, I think we're in the clear.
We might be in the clear now.
I don't know.
I haven't looked at all the data and all the news flow and everything.
But that's what I'm looking at more than anything, even for small cap stocks, right?
We have CPI this week.
We have PCE later this week.
We obviously have the charts, the IWM.
But to me, it's all driven by the price of oil,
and especially small caps are going to be very sensitive to that because high oil prices
means higher interest rates, and so IWM was getting smacked around a lot recently.
You know, I'm very rarely at very high cash levels.
And I very rarely have red alerts. I mean, I've been at pretty much 95% to 98% cash at the end of each day for the last several trading days.
I'm pretty much there right now.
I'm just taking, like, some intraday scalps here and there where I see it.
here and there where I see it. But it's easy to get emotional throughout the day in terms
of the headlines with the war and the oil. And I'm sure a lot of people are very excited
right now to see oil back below 100. And they may be thinking it's all over. Oil is not
going to go higher than this. Everything's contained. So let me go, you know, get back and be really bullish and buy the dip.
And who knows, they might turn out to be right.
But for me, it's a little premature to give that call.
So I'm still at very high cash levels.
And I'm just trying to preserve my profits at this point.
I've had a great year, especially last week, because I was all hedged up for war.
So I'm not really in a
risk-taking mood. I'm just in a kind of capital preservation mood and keep my pretty good level
of profits until a fat pitch shows in terms of like a small cap. I was looking for one this
morning with Berna, but it didn't work out, BYRN. I had some call options, and I was ready to buy common shares
at 8 o'clock this morning when they pre-announced revenue
because, you know, I knew they basically do it in a regular cadence,
and that was going to be my big next small cap win,
but it didn't work out.
The pre-announcement was not good.
So that trade didn't work out,
so I'm kind of waiting for the next big, fat pitch.
Maybe it'll be Kodak.
They have earnings later this week.
And, you know, there certainly are a lot of interesting small-cap names,
especially ones related to drones and defense and defense tech.
And we'll talk about some of those names on the second half.
Really great stuff there. And it's great to have you back and uh battling
through it with us really appreciate it uh dougie also welcome back i'll pass it to you
uh any thoughts that anything that you're looking at right now yeah how you guys doing sorry i didn't
make it last week either i was under the weather but yeah oil popping right now obviously like ben
said it's the big thing. Gold and silver dipping down.
Crypto curling up today.
It doesn't look too bad today.
So we'll see what it wants to do.
I just don't think crypto is going to get really cruising as we have a war.
And obviously, we're a small cap show.
So your IWN took a really nice dip with the rest of the indices.
But I think you have a good support down here right around this 247.
It did dip lower than that this morning.
It got down to 244, and now it's at 249.
So I think we could see a little bounce up on the IWM here, and we'll be watching for that as well.
And then, yeah, CPI is Wednesday, PCE Friday, and people are talking about stagflation.
So that's in the news as well.
So we've got to keep
an eye out for that kind of thing because that can just that kind of chatter can make the market
kind of flatter go down. But obviously we're just watching Iran and the war and geopolitical
things with oil. So I think that's your big headlines right now. And then the rest will
come into play. But there are some pretty good setups happening so we'll go over some uh individual ones at the end then i'll throw it
back to you guys great stuff there really appreciate it and uh next just going in the
order of how i see it on the stage laptop travel hi yeah well, of course, oil is the headline of the day, what we see, and for a short time will be.
As most people know, 20% of oil imports for the world's usage is going through the Strait of Hormuz,
the Strait of Hormuz, and Iran has basically thrown out the gauntlet and is trying to create
a strife within the Gulf Coast nations, which are its neighbors generally in that area,
trying to undercut support. Perhaps a mistake that they made was they fired missiles into Turkey,
which is a NATO country.
Now that gives the United States more leverage against this nation
and this conflict.
So, yeah, everyone is on pins and needles waiting for the latest news information.
And the reason that this is so important,
because this very tiny little choke point affects so many industries.
The world runs on oil still today.
I relive this in a way to a much lesser degree in the early 70s during the OPEC embargo,
waiting in gas stations.
So I know the potential of what can happen when oil becomes a point where it creates a stagnant environment
for the global economies,
which affects today everything.
We see it affecting many Asian countries.
South Korea's market just took a beating.
And I've actually been in KORU, which is an ETF,
playing that because it's so over.
So it went from 698 to, I think, 278.
So it's a huge jump in several days.
But yeah, everybody's waiting to hear and just going with the temperature at the time
of what is going to happen with oil.
And that is moment by moment.
Unfortunately, that's not a long-term thing right now. No one's thinking long-term. It's moment by moment. Unfortunately, that's not a long-term thing right now.
No one's thinking long-term.
It's moment by moment, and that's the kind of markets that we live in today.
Everything is so quick.
So a lot of my picks that I'll talk about later might be directed in some way towards energy and towards these points. There's also some stocks that I think that once we're past this,
and we will get past this,
that presents great opportunities for investors.
So throw it back to you.
Great stuff there.
Really appreciate that.
And it's really interesting, the graphic,
as you guys open the mic and close the mic, all the graphics are shifting around on screen.
So that's kind of entertaining.
Definitely something to watch on this app.
But Ariel, welcome back, my friend.
I will pass it to you.
Love to hear your thoughts.
Yeah, absolutely, guys.
Well, what another eventful weekend, huh?
It can tend to happen quite a bit here.
And, you know, perfect tend to happen quite a bit here. And,
you know, perfect timing having this on a Monday. So, you know, obviously oil's driving everything and it's really hard to play the markets when you see this, you know, these headline risks coming in
by the second. I mean, you know, the biggest thing that we need to look at is how long is this war
going to be going for, right? I mean, you know,
you're seeing over thousands of targets being hit in Iran, yet Iran's still sending those missiles
out and it's just becoming more and more of a nuisance. I don't think people expected this kind
of protracted war that's least oncoming. And, you know, and now Iran's, you know, going after
depots and, you know, doing whatever they can to disrupt the world trade.
So this tells me one thing, is that we've seen this before.
The correlation right now between oil and Russell is rather high on the negative level.
I think it's around 0.25, 0.33.
But what that tells me is that, okay, guys, let's see beyond this.
Yes, it could be protracted.
And yes, your dips may even go deeper.
I mean, for all I know, this could get really, really ugly first before it gets better.
I am using gold as a gauge here, and I'm not seeing it move up, right?
So what it's telling me is the market is not ready yet to see a huge downfall further from what we're seeing.
These 1% to 3% moves are kind of
normal, in my opinion. Still business as usual. I have not seen anything here that's causing me
concern. I'm actually bottom hunting. I'm looking for the companies I know, and I'm looking for
fundamentals, like I always talk about every week, that are cash flowing. Or even if they're not,
I'm looking at themes like
an agentic AI theme that I'm going through every single public company that has evaluation of
whatever to down. I'm going after everything agentic because that is the next iteration
of AI. And so you will never miss a day with talking about that. And that's kind of where
I'm coming from is that I'm looking, I'm gauging with oil. Maybe we hit 200 for all I know. I don't. That's going to tank the stock market down 10,
20%. But that's now. We've got to see past it. This is the stock market's going to last forever,
right? So this is where I tell everybody and the listeners is that make your list, okay? This isn't
do not buy all of it today. That's crazy. But make your list and start nibbling away.
You down 5%, buy it.
Down 10%, buy it, right?
But then you buy a quarter at a time,
companies that you know that you don't mind owning.
You know, like that's what I like to do
with these public companies.
And, you know, FSLY is one I'm actually in right now
for, you know, the agentic space, but they're big.
They're not a micro cap.
They're a $3 billion company. But then I'm asking myself, what other companies are associated to that? Maybe OSS.
And so that's what I'm telling everybody to start looking at thematically. That's what I love doing
here. Hey, Ariel, if I may respond to a couple of those things. I think it's worthwhile to mention timeframes and
what people's timeframes are in terms of do you buy the dip or not. So kudos to you for
being like, it sounded like you were buying the dip this morning. And I had a list of
stocks I was considering buying the dips on, and I wish I did, but
I didn't, at least in my trading account, because that's a more short-term oriented
account.
For a longer term account, yeah, you know, you average in, you buy the dips here and
there because you don't know where the bottom is going to be.
And there's certainly as good a time as any near the 200 DMA balance on the indices to
start collecting stuff.
So, yeah, I missed out on some opportunities in my short-term account
because I'm just much more, I don't know, in a way conservative.
In my short-term account, I want to have like a really green signal
and be sure that I'm in the clear before I take a risk short-term.
So I missed out on something like AIR this morning, AEHR, which I actually put in my
morning note.
I bounced beautifully off the 20 DMA this morning, just like to the T.
And I had my order, but I just hesitated.
I'm like, man, if oil stays above 100 today, you know, maybe I can get a better entry at
the 50 DMA.
So I missed on that.
But, you know, I think well you know if I was
shopping for my long-term account yeah I would have should have would have pulled
the trigger there but I think in a shorter term account it's a little bit
of a different calculus. I think it's always worth mentioning like you know
it depends what your time frame is in terms of do you buy the dip or do not buy the dip.
The other thing I want to mention is I actually disagree with you on gold.
And, you know, there's probably research on this. I just know from my muscle memory
that when you get into a liquidation event, like a black swan event, okay, whether it be like the the COVID crash or the Liberation Day crash or 2008, 2009 crash.
If you get like a black swan thing and people are looking to liquidate stuff, gold usually does not hold up.
And I don't see that as a good gauge.
People just sell everything they're up on and gold has been up.
up. So I just disagree with you on that one, if I may. So I just, you know, it's been an obvious
So I just disagree with you on that one, if I may.
correlation between USO and IWM especially, but also QQQ Spy. And for me, my demarcation point,
the thing to watch the North Star right at the top of my list is USO. And, you know,
watching the news, seeing what direction it goes, but also $100, I think, is a key psychological
level, which is going to determine, do we hold this 200 TMA here on the major indices,
or do we go below it? And the longer oil stays above 100, I think the greater chance that will
break below it. And I think you mentioned, I kind of agree with you, I don't think you need 200 oil low. I think if oil sustains above $100, you can see a 15 to 20%
correction in the indices, meaning if it's for a few months, right? If you have oil above
100 for a few months, you're going to easily be down 15 to 20% and break through all these
supports we're at on the major indices right now. But for the moment, we're below 100.
So anyway, just want to respond to some of your thoughts there.
Yeah, thank you for that. And, you know, look, I think this is good, you know, back and forth banter,
you know, for anyone that's listening, right? And it's important to hear different perspectives.
And, you know, so my take is more about,
I think you mentioned it nailing the head with timing.
I love trading, don't get me wrong.
I like making money in one day and make 20%.
But obviously, you know, I do have other baskets.
And, you know, one of the things I tend to look at
when I look at themes, and I still am talking rare earths,
I'm still talking robotics, all that good stuff.
But it's like, you know, I put them in my basket
and then, you know, does a different type of trade altogether.
That is for sure.
It's really interesting getting the good balance
between what you're trading and what you're just holding
and having those separate accounts.
And I think both of you actually mentioned that earlier too.
So that's really interesting.
So let's dive into some specific stocks,
specific companies that are on our radar.
I know Ben, you threw some out earlier.
I don't know if you have any others that you really want to dive into
before we kind of pass around the room
and look at really some specific areas that are on the radar for each of you guys.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, I'm usually very excited about stuff in the short term.
I usually have some nice swing possessions and sides.
And there were a couple really great happenings here over the past week.
But I just took my profits and
ran because of the market conditions.
So, Air is one of them.
Let me also quickly first go to AMPX.
So, I kept AMPX in my long-term account right after earnings.
This is a battery company.
I love this one because you've got two themes.
You've got battery theme and drone theme.
I held it into earnings, but I immediately took my profits in my short-term account the morning after earnings,
again, because of the market situation, but I kept my entire long-term position.
So it's kind of annoying seeing this continuously go up since earnings.
If I wasn't worried about the geopolitical, then my short-term account would have made much, much, much more than I did.
Look at this. It's just straight up since the earnings report.
So that's one I have my eyes on.
And, you know, maybe if there's a big pullback, something I can step back into in the long-term account.
And then, I mean, the short-term account.
And then, like, yeah, another one. Man, I totally dropped the ball on this one in my short-term account. And then, like, Air, yeah, Air, another one.
Man, I totally dropped the ball on this one in my short-term account.
Look at this.
Since their huge AI orders, it was, the big one was February 11th.
You can see that on the chart.
Gapped up, had a nice correction, great buying opportunity the next day.
And the next great buying opportunity was this morning.
And I missed it.
I had to order, man.
I had to order it at $34.50.
And then I was looking at the price of oil.
And I just hesitated.
And I changed it to $33.50.
I really wanted $30.
That's the thing.
I was scheming all weekend to see if I can get air at $30 at the 50 DMA.
And maybe I could have if the markets opened up kind of where they were overnight,
because overnight was just a disaster and things really moderated by the time the markets opened.
So, you know, I had dreams to buy Air at 30 and then it was 3450. So it was kind of like,
ah, man, that's too expensive. Anyway, but that's another small cap that is really at a major
inflection point with all their AI orders coming in.
I have a $50 to $100 price target on the stock this year.
I mean, it almost hit my 50 target within, what is that, like 10 trading days or so after the news came out.
And they've had, by the way, a constant flow of AI orders since that big AI order on February 11th.
There's been two subsequent ones.
And I think they report in a few weeks,
three weeks or something. But
yeah, lost opportunity.
I should have slammed
that this morning at the 20 DMA.
So those are two, but I mean
there are more interesting
small cap names,
especially in defense tech
that I'm looking at.
Let me see.
I don't know how much small it is.
Laser LASR, that's not so much small cap anymore.
What is a market cap?
3.29 billion.
You know what?
That might even qualify.
I don't know what the cutoff is now, but not too big yet.
3.29 billion dollars.
I had this on my morning note this morning to buy the dip here today.
And this one I was a little more aggressive on i
i played it a little bit here a couple times here laser today because it's war related unlike air
which was not war related and so i got a little bit nervous and i didn't pull the trigger so
like i'm pulling the trigger on more word related stuff but uh laser has, they're involved in the iron beam technology that Israel's
just started using in the real world use case just like last week to shoot down drones and
stuff.
And, you know, seeing the success that Iran is having, particularly with drones, highlights
the need for laser technology.
And I think I saw something about Department of War testing over the weekend,
just this, laser defense for drones.
There's some headline that came out about that that made it into my morning note.
So, you know, there are a bunch of things that I like, you know,
that I'm watching despite market conditions.
Obviously, we have the drone stocks like UMAC,
and ASPI is another one that has had some really positive news lately.
And I'm hearing they could have a benefit in terms of helium,
because helium apparently goes to the straight-up form moves,
and I think ASPI sells helium.
So there's a little bit of a bid on that besides some other news.
So there are like a bunch of microcaps that I'm looking at here.
But I don't know, man.
For the most part, I'm just like trading and taking scalps
and not wanting to really swing stuff with conviction right now.
And it's hurt me.
Like I said, if I swung AMPX, wow,
because I had a big position into the earnings report.
But I'm just taking profits where I can and running for the moment.
Good stuff there.
Any thoughts on any of that?
Dougie, I see you're throwing some reactions in.
You're also next on my screen.
So, yeah, any areas of interest that you're looking on specifically?
Yeah, I'll just touch on them because, Ben, we always look at a lot of these and that AMPX.
Holy cow, Ben, if we kept swinging that thing.
Oh, my goodness.
That thing was crazy.
If I had kept my USO calls, wow, they expired Friday.
But I had calls from Thursday and the Friday.
They were crazy.
And that was off of Ben's call in our Discord.
And yeah, air looking good.
That laser, I wasn't even looking at that.
And that is looking pretty decent off the 20 right there in your ASPI.
We've been checking that chemical company out.
And that's been having some good momentum.
A couple that I've had on my list right here, plug.
It was plugging away.
It pulled back a little bit, but it does look like it's going to roll off the MACD, so it could
be a little good pullback. And BBAI, Big Bear, that one is sitting right there on the 20 as well,
looking good. One that we usually look at, I'm surprised, Ben Redwire right here, RDW,
looking really good today. That's curling up and starting to really look good and then two other ones we've talked about imrx that biotech company is looking great and
gulf galt so a couple good small cap ones right there that are setting up so there are some good
opportunities um you just got to find the particular stocks and then obviously lock in
those profits like ben says i think we've been locking them in a little early but it's hard to tell with the war and everything the market's
very volatile guys so you've got to kind of take them profits where they are you
in one second you can be way up and the next second you can be way down it's pretty crazy
and then uh and i was gonna say i think silver looks better than gold at the moment you guys
were talking about silver and gold and i do i think silver think silver looks better than gold at the moment. You guys were talking about silver and gold, and I do.
I think silver looks a lot better than gold.
I think gold could really pull back.
Silver actually has a chance to get a little movement.
So I just wanted to touch on that.
And there you are.
So there you are, laptop travel and everybody else.
Yeah, I just want to mention, IMRX does look beautiful in the technicals.
They had earnings and a business update last week, so that's probably the catalyst for it.
I have not had a chance to listen to it, unfortunately, because this is one I've been following closely for a few years,
and we've had some very nice trades with it.
And then Redwire also this morning, if I'm not mistaken, I'm looking
for it now, but I'm pretty sure they had an upgrade this morning. And I'm just seeing,
I'm checking our news feed on the Discord, and I'm just seeing this from Ross now while
I missed it. B. Riley raised AMPX from 16 to 22 today. So that may be part of the reason
why it has some strength. So definitely somes uh that's causing some of that relative strength that you're noticing
there on those names awesome thank you for that info right there and uh laptop travel i think
you'd probably be next yeah thanks doug uh enjoyed your comments there on some of your takes on those
stocks and ones we've been looking at for a while. You know, one, I'll just throw this out
before I get into other specific smaller cap stocks, but, you know, KORU, I know Doug and I
have been talking about this for a long time. I got into this in April of 2025,
around the Independence Day of Trump declaring the tariffs.
In the mid-20s, the thing ran to $698 just at the end of February.
And then it's had a 50% correction in the last few days because of the conflict with
Iran. And South Korea is a great partner with the United States. And, you know, it's the home of
Samsung and leads a lot of high-tech industries, but is highly dependent on Middle East oil. And so they took it even tougher than Japan did with this.
And they really can't handle choking off of oil. So I really have been watching. Don't many get an
opportunity for a huge ETF like that that drops 50% and has really a lot going for it. If you look
at the country of South Korea and the industries there, so something to think about. So one stock
that I really, really like, and I brought this to everyone's attention on February 23rd uh and that was uh nn
did we lose him i heard nn and then nothing yeah i think you hit the uh the mute button there laptop
travel
laptop you went on mute wow you went n call probably came in now we gotta search we
gotta guess what it is nm yeah nm uh i don't even know what that was i was trying to figure it out
and i have no idea i was here laptop nancy nancy oscar x-ray oh there he is we got you back
what is it i think that's the one that all right yeah i NVIDIA invested in them at one point.
Yes, they did.
And they are, they're an Israeli company and they are incorporating AI into reading x-rays.
So you take the human factor out of interpreting x-rays and you let AI help, you know, physicians determine what x-ray is really telling them.
So it's a great, it's done okay.
I think I gave it to everyone at a price of about $2.30 when I recommended it.
And it ran up to a high, you know, of about 275. And it's right now
at 264. This is a 3x, potentially a 4x stock, you know, this in the six month, three to six month period here this year, a lot of positive on this stock.
Another stock that I also like, AMPX.
Another stock that I like and I know that Ben and our Discord really likes is SOC, which is Sierra Oscar Charlie.
which is Sierra Oscar Charlie.
Now, this is an offshore producer of oil off the coast of California
and has been caught up in a lot of turmoil and legal ongoings
trying to prevent this company from pumping oil into California.
So now Trump got involved, and the administration got involved
and got the Department of Justice to rule in their favor
that the state of California had no jurisdiction to stop them.
So this has been a real boost for this company.
And when it was going through tough know tough times it was down in the
three dollars and 72 cents today it's at about 14.56 it's up a little bit today but
since the war broke out and since the doj did this ruling it's done really well. I look for this stock to probably be somewhere around
$27 to $28, maybe within the next six weeks. So so those are two that I really like there.
And this is a time where you really should go through your list and pick.
I had a huge list that I provided to the Discord earlier of a lot of stocks that are
what I think were stocks you need to look at, you know.
So, like, look at PayPal and some of these stocks that you really pick and choose, kind of like Ariel had mentioned, is that, you know, these are some, and also Ben talked about on a longer time frame, these are some stocks with this dip.
You know, of course, you have to temper that with what's going on with oil and the conflict.
But there is a great opportunity in many cases to pick up some great stocks and put them away for your long term account.
These are not day trade stocks for for these larger cap stocks.
But the ones that I gave you, NNOX and SOC, I'm also right now
playing UCO, which is Uniform Charlie Oscar. And that's a 2X on the oil index, Bloomberg's crude oil index. And that's a great way to play the oil right now. Very
volatile, but keep an eye on that. And if you want to have some excitement in trading,
get in there with oil on that. I do see, I don't see a quick resolution to what's happening.
Like I said before, the world is waiting on pins and needles,
and it doesn't take much to turn sentiment.
And one or two strikes by Iran in places that really upset the markets,
if they take out a few vessels carrying oil,
if they were to reach over and cause a major damage,
you know, to other countries.
Now at this point, in the early days, we understood.
Missiles were flying back and forth.
But now where it seems that both sides have drawn a line in the sand,
anything can tip the sentiment
of the market. And that's where I think that Ben was holding back on some of his trades.
And I think that's where a lot of traders are waiting. But at the same time,
if the market moves with you, then you have a chance to make some great profits here.
So throw that back to you.
And I don't know, Doug, if you have any comments on those picks that I threw out.
Yeah, that NNOX is very interesting.
I hadn't seen that one yet.
NanoX Imaging?
Yeah, I wasn't familiar with that one.
But it is hitting around that 50 area on the SMA on the moving average.
And I think it could have a little bit of pullback, but it is getting set up here.
So maybe this week it bounces around a little bit and then next week it tries to run.
That's what it looks like to me.
So definitely a good one there.
You know, we've been looking at that KO.
I'm just fascinated by this KORU.
I mean, he called it like $20 and ran up to $600.
It was pretty wild.
And now it's way down.
And it does.
It looks like it's got it.
I don't know.
I have to keep an eye on it the next few days to see where we're going to get back in.
And then SOC, Sable Offshore, not bad.
It's in the top, so you just got to be careful.
But obviously, oil's been running.
So if oil continues to to run this will continue to
pop up there in the top yeah and you know with with soc it's not purely oil i mean it is a pure
oil company but what i'm saying here is that it has the it has the tailwinds of what's going on with the oil situation globally. But additionally, it has this Trump administration, DOJ support to override California's regulations that they could not.
And so once they get 100% back into flow, I think there's a great opportunity for Sable or offshore.
Really great stuff there.
And I'd like to pass to Ariel,
if you have anything to respond to any of those points right there
or throw in your own picks,
things that you're interested in looking in right now.
I'd love to hear some tickers
and some specifics from you that are on your radar.
So it's interesting.
You mentioned AI for x-rays.
So I've been looking at this company forever and know the management of AIFF, and it's
Firefly is the name of the company. And they do the same exact thing for MRIs. And they have an AI
tool that they use, and they have a 510k approval process that enables you to scan all kinds of, basically scans in general.
And then the AI puts out a report and gives you 12 different types of tests to see if a patient or someone has dementia or Alzheimer's and they could find it early.
I've always found that company interesting.
It's a very, very small market cap.
They don't have much debt on the balance sheet, maybe about $2 million.
They have plenty of cash.
They're not looking to raise money.
I can tell you I've tried.
We were looking into it, and then they have no interest in the market,
which is always a very good sign on the open market.
Obviously, the caveat is who the hell knows.
Maybe tomorrow they'll raise money. Uh, it is subject to, you know, release that they
put out about a commercial launch. So I thought that was interesting. You kind of, kind of rejigged
my memory on that, uh, you know, idea, at least today is a good volume, 7 million, you know,
2.3 million shares
on a $1.68 stock and true micro cap. We're talking about a micro micro of 24 million market cap.
So that's one that, you know, I remembered and have been looking at always been on my screen,
still on a little bit of it. But yeah, I'm gonna revisit now. So and the other one is,
I mentioned WRLG on the venture. Nothing's changed.
I think the guy's name is Frank Gustra.
He's a big owner of this thing.
He's a famous commodities investor in gold.
And this one is obviously a gold play that's producing.
I like that because it's a recent, no one really knows.
It's just the last quarter they produced quite a bit.
We talked about NAV.
We think it's about 2x from here.
And again, I always give as
many caveats as possible. Please know that I'm not recommending anything. I'm just telling you
what we're doing. And then Eitan, I mentioned that before that thing just got smoked. And I don't
know, it's just really disappointing. They put out an ATM announcement and then the markets just
said, uh-oh, they're going to raise all this money down here. But what happens is anytime they put out an ATM,
it doesn't mean they're raising money.
People don't know better, right?
They just assume that they're going to raise all that money there at that price.
But they have zero interest in doing so.
And when you start understanding what they are,
people get misunderstood about them being a dat play.
They are absolutely not a dat play.
They happen to own crypto on their balance sheet, so it hurts them.
So in this case, they're,, remember a GPU play, right? They got GPUs from NVIDIA and they're servicing
Telegram's AI, which is called Cocoon. And they are one of the main service providers to Telegram.
So if you ever go on Telegram and you go look at opening up your crypto wallet, that's them.
They're the ones managing that whole world for Telegram.
It just shows you how close they are.
So you can make a lot of money just by plug-and-playing the AI agent, essentially, I'm sorry, not
AI agent, but computing and infrastructure for AI by using the NVIDIA chips.
It's actually a market that pays somewhere between four and six dollars an hour per chip. And so when you do the math of how many chips they bought
that they publicly announced, I think it was like 571, I could just fast forward you to, we get to
quite a nice EBITDA number of, and they mentioned this publicly of somewhere around half a million
a month. But no one knows any of this stuff, right? It's so hard with this world, you know,
to eat through the clutter. But we're a world, you know, to eat through the clutter.
But we're a holder, you know, a lot of our friends and family are owning it. There's very,
very few shares in the float. Again, a micro micro cap. So please beware this thing, who knows where
it could go. But I love putting money into that thing. So, you know, and I just will buy more
when I can. So those are my companies that I'm
kind of really newer-ish investments. And of course, my larger ones are the Gentic AI plays
like FSLY and whatnot. I'm obviously going downstream a little more just because I could
get a little more action. So that's so far what I got. Hey, Ariel, mentioning mentioning ton i wondered if you had any opinions you've been following ton x
i have and see the problem with like ton right it's it's the token underlying telegram
and ton x is directly correlated to that you know uh crypto you know, like for Telegram. So I feel like TonX is completely in apples and oranges
to Aton, even though Aton has the same reason for their ticker is because they're so correlated to
Telegram. So that's what's interesting to me. And, you know, I definitely do not want to play TonX.
But, you know, I could see that being a quick mover all things considered because telegram's using it
as a not just like a some crypto play it's there's there's value to it right so so that's where i i'm
just saying i do know about it but it's very different than than how i and why i perceive
a town being a good play okay thanks i appreciate your comments on that absolutely what was the second stock ticker you
said uh ariel it started with a w yeah w r l g dot v or or you could put an f at the end and that's
the u.s version of it and it's like again no one knows anything about it it was an asset that
was very cheap that was bought and then they started producing and i believe sprott's involved
gooster's involved.
I like seeing that,
you know,
like some validation and not just my own research and saying it's producing,
but I like other smart people in play.
I see it now.
West red light gold mines,
not familiar with it,
but just pulling back a little bit right here,
but it could be a pretty decent one to get set back up.
So I'll keep an eye on it yeah absolutely some great picks there and we have about 15 minutes left and I just want to
say those of you that are new to spaces tuning in listening to this this is a weekly space that we
do all the amazing people that are on stage, I highly recommend you check them out. All the
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Just follow the amazing speakers that are on stage.
I highly recommend that.
But one question I'll kind of throw out to
the panel here, just
even in that last discussion there, differentiating between the U.S. ticker and the international ticker.
When you guys are looking at these small cap stocks, especially all the craziness that's happening in the world right now, how are you balancing where you're looking as far as just straight domestic looking at U.S.
and trying to balance to see where the international opportunities are?
Because there's some craziness going on, as we know.
We don't even have to go into all of that.
I mean, you can just go on and on and on and on about the craziness.
But trying to balance your risk globally, of course, trying to find opportunities, but at the same time, realizing what kind of climate we're in right now.
So how do you look at the small caps internationally?
Anything on that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Personally, I don't like to invest internationally,
and I've missed a lot of opportunities because of that.
Now, if a company is based outside the United States,
but their product and service is offered primarily in the United States,
or, you know, that's something that's fine that I'll do.
And my reason for that is I want to be able to see
and feel the product as much as I can, right?
If I can't do it physically, okay, on a website, on social media.
I want to be able to gauge the brand penetration if I can, if it's something that's a consumer-facing product.
And then if it's not consumer-facing, it's good to have management in our time zones.
I've talked to CEOs.
I don't know.
I've probably spoken to, like, 100 CEOs,
most of the time public interviews and stuff.
So, you know, anything that enables me
to feel closer to the product and service
in order to not only have conviction,
but also to kind of gauge sentiment is important, right?
If I'm just looking at, like like numbers and I just have to like
blindly trust numbers and you know in a press release or 10Q filing or something like that
and their entire customer base and everything is overseas like I just don't feel comfortable
with that situation so I personally completely avoid opportunities like that.
That's my take, and I'm sure everyone has a totally different opinion on that, too.
Yeah, because I am a total chart person, and I just run scanners and look.
But I'm not a big international person because I just don't really trade the OTC market that much.
And a lot of them are OTCs like are they're wr lgf um i will watch them there's been a few of them i know there was that one gold one that uh money mark had given out that
was an otc i'd gotten into i'm trying to think of the name of it it started with a g but um
yeah i just am not a big otc and the only reason why is some of the charts tend to be odd to me if this one's
actually a decent chart I can tell what's going on so I'll look at this one but a lot of the OTCs
and sometimes I'm charts are a little odd to me so I just don't mess around with them but that's
just the only reason why and um but yeah I I don't really look at the products or even I didn't even
really know what any of the company names were. It didn't really matter to me.
So I just base it all off the charts.
But if it's a it's a normal looking chart, I'll generally trade it.
But OTCs, I don't generally trade.
And a lot of them are them.
So that's my take on it.
And I'll chime in here a bit.
That was Gatekeeper, I think you're talking about, Doug.
Is that right?
Yes, it was Gatekeeper. Thank you,'re talking about, Doug. Is that right?
Yes, it was.
Gatekeeper, thank you, Laptop Travel.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's not Goldstock.
That's Canadian now. Yeah.
Yeah, so as most people probably here don't know,
but I also run an international travel agency for VIP clients, and I spend a lot of time traveling.
And in recent, in the last couple of years, I've spent a lot of time in Southeast Asia.
So I've gone to Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, many places here,
in South Korea, many places here, and have actually spent a lot of time trying to get
to know some of the companies and colleagues with the inside information on investing,
not inside, not illegal, sorry, but with firsthand knowledge of companies.
And, you know, I've done well, but I would say recently in the last 14 months, I've gotten burned really hard with some of the international companies.
I've gone and actually seen companies before they became a U.S. IPO.
what Ben said about first-hand knowledge or having close is that the problem that I have,
and that's why I go see these, is reporting. There's a lot of companies that have avoided
and legally have avoided the same reporting requirements. You'll see a lot of Chinese
companies now that have registered in the Cayman Islands, and they're excluded from
a lot of reporting that we're used to with domestic companies. But I do follow a lot of
international companies. Today, I probably invest more in ETFs, which represent a country or a sector with international exposure than I would a specific
company internationally. Although, you know, some of the Israeli companies I do invest in and see.
But it'd be very leery if you're not experienced in touching anything with any individual international companies.
Again, reporting is a huge issue, and therefore there's a question of trust.
I had a stock that I followed very closely, knew the people out of Singapore.
They IPO'd, and the stock rocketed, made money the first day.
I did sell the first day.
And then it just crashed to pennies.
So it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
And that's what I have on International.
Hey, guys.
Happy to chime in here.
You know, I'm like a very big skeptic.
And I got to tell you, China really burned a lot of people back like when big china boom i remember from 2009-10 we saw all them come public here in the
u.s and you know one of the problems i have is if there's any kind of fraud right or if there's
something that happens within the company that deserves legal action, good luck going after them. Good luck getting
your own money back, right? It's a Chinese company, domiciled there. So I'm not trying
to pick on them, but I'm just using them as a factual example that whatever country that I'm
going to be investing in doesn't have the type of legal jurisdiction that the U.S. has in the sense
of going after the management, putting them in jail if they do
something illegal. If I can't put my arms around that, then I have no interest, zero interest in
investing in that. Because then they're just basically, hey, trust me. Yeah, you have the
PCOB audited firms that do that, but I just don't trust it. You know, so why go there when we have US,
the most liquid market in the world by a wide margin. And the reason why I'm talking about Canada a lot of times is because Canada now woke up, right? But that's, you know,
the super cycle of the commodity space. And so now I'm looking at the liquidity,
and that's what I always look for in the Canadian markets, on the TSX, on the CSC,
And that's what I always look for in the Canadian markets, on the TSX, on the CSE.
And it's there.
It's alive.
These people are just going nuts there where you're seeing 10x returns on these penny to
two penny stocks.
All of a sudden, they're going to like a buck.
I'm like, whoa.
And when I see that, I'm interested because then that's the next wave of where I'm thinking
it's going to have a trickle-down effect to other industries.
And you're seeing that in the drone space and any thematic play now.
The folks in Canada right now, it's their time to shine.
Remember, there was a three-year drought there.
It was dead.
So that's the only international, I would say, indices that I'd be putting money into.
I really don't like any other jurisdiction, quite frankly.
That's just my take. I'd be putting money into. I really don't like any other jurisdiction, quite frankly.
That's just my take.
I definitely got burnt on China stocks, so I don't tend to play them that often anymore.
A lot of them tend to be penny stocks, too, and they could be wild.
I've made a lot of money on them, but I've also got burnt pretty heavy on them, too. So it can go both ways, and now it moves a lot differently.
So I'm with you on that area. I don't try to play them too so it can go both ways and now it moves a lot differently so I'm with you on that area I don't try to play them too often anymore exactly the only
China stocks I mean the only China stock I'm in an exception for is we bull and
it hasn't worked out yet BULL but you know that's an example of one where the
you know they have US operations and I can touch and fill their product here
So I feel comfortable
trading slash investing in it at times, but
yeah, their last earnings report was just in line wasn't really enough to
Find the bottom and turn the corner, but something like that I would have no problem with because the product is us-based here sorry what was that
laptop were you saying something i think his mic went off and he was talking in the background
yeah no worries happens to the best but yeah, no, those are really interesting points. And even
as someone, by the way, this is Taj behind the Wolf mic, aka Tropic. I live outside of the States.
And when I travel around, I'm amazed by almost like how good it is in the States as far as like
transparency, legal frameworks, and all those different things that you can actually feel
comfortable investing in things. Because there's lots of opportunities all around
the world. But when it comes to transparency, paperwork, and then if something goes wrong,
or if there's some shenanigans that goes on, you're kind of out of luck there in a lot of
cases, not everywhere. But it is definitely difficult to do your own diligence, do your
own research and all that stuff when you're looking outside of
your jurisdiction, especially in the US. But this has been a really, really great conversation.
This hour kind of flew by. We touched all the amazing topics as to looking at globally what's
happening. Of course, with oil, there's conflicts. And then we touched pretty much all areas that are related to that. We did
a little bit of drones, we did energy in certain areas, like a little bit of battery tech and so
forth. But those of you that are just tuning in, this is a recorded space, it will be up here. So
if you missed any of that, the tickers, everything will be there. I highly recommend that you do so
and just pass it back to Ben. Anyone has any closing thoughts in the last three minutes that we do have?
Feel free to hop in.
But Ben, I'd love to hear your closing thoughts heading into the rest of this wonderful week.
My closing thought, it may work against me to be so cautious.
it may work against me to be so cautious,
but, you know, I've been doing this for a long time,
and I've seen so many different black swan events and market crashes,
and there's recent ones, even the newer investors among here,
you know, remember COVID and a Liberation Day crash,
and, of course, 2008,2009 I was trading through,
and then the dot-com bust as well.
And hopefully it's not going to happen, but it could.
What I'm talking about is a black swan event,
and that to me a black swan event is oil stays elevated over $100.
So, you know, I would just look, I always tell my Discord, I'm not a big fan of buying dips.
I'm really not.
A lot of people on Discord have been killing it by buying dips.
But at some point, retail loves to buy dips and for the most part they've been awarded
doing that.
But at some point there will be another black swan event
again and the market will be down 20, 30, 35 percent over a matter of a few months or a couple
quarters. And all these people who just, you know, instinctively buy dips based only on the dip and
no other data, at some point a large majority of them are going to get completely wiped out because these folks are also probably the ones doing it on margin,
doing it with options.
So it's fine to buy the dip if it's measured in the right size, if, you know, the fees
as well as far as the fundamentals, if you're in a geopolitical spot, you know, that it's
hedged, right, that you have enough cash to deal with that or puts or whatever it may be.
So that's my thought.
I think it's worthwhile saying it now because I think there is a risk that this Iran war turns into a black swan event. And, you know, I'm hopefully putting this out there and reminding people constantly of this.
You know, our followers won't be this group of people.
They get completely wiped out when they buy the dip.
It goes lower. They buy it again. It goes lower.
They buy the dip and then they're wiped out.
All right. I've seen it happen several times and it will happen again at some point.
Yeah, I agree, Ben.
And I'm not convinced that the market's exactly ready to pop.
I know it's kind of bouncing back today a little bit, but I wouldn't go all in on anything.
That's for sure.
I'd be watching this thing to watch for some real bottoms and more dips because it looks like it's going to.
I don't want to be misunderstood about.
I'm not like, you know, really pessimistic or anything about this situation.
In fact, I've been on record for the last couple of months saying that I think, you know, regime change in Iran will be an extremely, extremely positive event for the U.S. economy.
And I still maintain that.
But I would have wished and I think everyone involved would have loved to see a movement towards regime change happen after just a few days of bombing and seeing, you know, old people rise in the streets.
That hasn't happened.
And it's a risk, you know.
So I'm hopeful.
I'm optimistic that everything turns out great. And if this war does work out, like I said, it's going to be a huge, huge, huge net
positive for the U.S. economy, another major trade partner, as well as a lot of other benefits with
energy. But the risk is there that oil stays elevated. The risk is there that this spirals
into a more regional proxy conflict between China, Russia, and the United States.
There's a lot of things to be cognizant of.
And, you know, your first job is to protect your capital.
So, yeah, I'm a little bit cautious.
But hopefully, if we do get regime change, it'll be the most positive thing.
You know, a lot of people will be very surprised.
This is a very strategic thing Trump is doing.
And for all those people who are like, what is Trump doing?
He's crazy or doesn't know what he's doing or he's just doing what Israel wants.
Like, this is a very strategic thing.
And if it works out, it's going to be a major, major economic positive for the United States.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, all the oil we have trade with Iran, it would be huge, huge, huge.
But I don't think we're out of it yet.
So like Ben's saying, just be careful and obviously just focus on your best trade opportunities
and lock in your profits and trade smart.
That's what you have to do.
We're in the middle of like a war right now.
So the markets are volatile.
And that's what I see for the rest of the week, to be honest with you.
Definitely.
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