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Solana Staking in your retirement account with iTrustCapital
Recorded: July 2, 2025 Duration: 0:41:15Space Recording
Short Summary
iTrust Capital has launched Solana staking in partnership with Fireblocks and Figment, offering clients a tax-sheltered way to earn approximately 6.39% annually on their holdings. This initiative marks a significant step in expanding their crypto offerings, with plans to include more proof-of-stake assets in the future.
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. Music Hey, everyone.
We're just going to let people head in.
We'll start discussing in a few minutes.
I know we got Borovic in here. Thank you. hey oh how we doing hey so the music stops as soon as you unmute the music immediately stops
every time can't hear you oh can you hear me now? Yeah. And I was saying that whenever you unmute,
the first unmute from the host stops the music.
Got it.
And there's no way to turn it back on.
At least I don't think they fixed that.
I mean, honestly, I don't really need it to be back on.
I mean, the last thing that I want is for people
just to kind of be hearing elevator music.
I'd rather just kind of talk, and then we can get into the staking
in a couple of minutes as people kind of build hearing like elevator music i'd rather just kind of like talk and then we can we can get into the staking in a in a couple of minutes as we as we like kind of you know people kind of build
in here yeah no i agree it is kind of like elevator music i mean it's uh it's pretty peaceful it's
like it's like waiting music you know you're just waiting you know for the elevator to get to your
floor kind of back you know it's kind of nice yeah i'm I'm with you. Look, a really exciting day. I mean, obviously,
for iTrust Capital, we're excited to talk about the staking. And then also, you know, we got some
interesting activity going on in the market as well. I mean, I just feel like we have more and
more positive catalysts for crypto every single day. It's becoming surreal
at this point with all the things going on. There's obviously the base narratives of the
Bitcoin treasury companies, but we have so many other things going on now with real world assets,
tokenization of stocks. I mean, it's just kind of an endless stream of positivity.
Yeah. I mean, I'd say every single day we're hearing news that's very bullish.
I mean, every day you're hearing about, you know, a new company buying Bitcoin, you know, Solana ETF
getting close to approval. I mean, from all levels of, you know, from government to, you know,
the private sector, even like other countries, I mean, entire world is moving closer every single day.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think what's also really interesting is how we, you know, we get a lot of people who ask us and we don't provide financial advice, but we have so many people in the comments who are always like, oh, why isn't, you know, the price going up because of this?
Or why is the price going down because people you know because people are fighting on x and
you know there's just as crypto has become more legitimate and as more institutions have gotten
involved in crypto people just expect for a number to go up but the reality is that when more
institutions get involved and more liquidity comes back into the space as now the regulatory
environment is is friendlier there's also more people who can
short the asset, right? So there's upward pressure on the asset. There's downward
pressure on the markets. And that's just the general nature of crypto becoming more mainstream.
Yeah, I just think it's going to take time. I mean, I've been in the space for over eight years now.
And, you know, sometimes you just like certain cycles. My first cycle in 2017, I mean, I waited three years after 2017 for the bull market to come back.
So people just aren't patient.
I mean, it takes time, right?
Let things marinate.
Eventually, I think prices will go higher.
My financial advice, though.
Yeah, never financial advice.
We can kind of get started.
kind of get started. My name is Jared Feldman. I'm the SVP of operations at iTrust Capital.
My name is Jared Feldman.
I'm the SVP of operations at iTrust Capital.
For those of us who do not know us, we are a crypto platform that provides retail folks with
access to institutional grade crypto security solutions, as well as buy and sell liquidity.
And now we offer staking. We have retirement accounts. We also have what we refer to as premium custody accounts,
which are non-retirement accounts. We're very different than some of your quote-unquote
mainstream exchanges in the sense that our clients have asked us to put security first.
Our accounts are not drainable. We don't have hot wallets. They've been built in order to account for all the unfortunate social engineering
scams and illicit activity that you see when it comes to folks trying to get into people's
crypto accounts. And that's the real genesis and basis for the various products that we offer.
They're all offered within secure closed loop systems. I think we will be open at some point
to have like a Q&A. I'm always happy to do
that. But for now, we're going to be discussing the launch of staking. We have Solana staking,
which we just announced today. We're partnering with both Fireblocks as well as Figment for the
launch of Solana staking. And we're very excited. More importantly, our clients are very excited.
We've seen a lot of interest in it so far. And the main reason is because people love to buy and sell crypto, but people also love to just hold their crypto. And for people who are HODLers that are doing so within these proof of stake networks, they want to be able to participate in the staking service.
to participate in the staking service. And it's because they want to help secure the network.
They want to be able to participate, have more skin in the game. And we allow our clients to
self-direct into buying and selling. And now our clients can self-direct directly into on-chain
staking. Why is it so cool to do it within a retirement account? Tax sheltered. All right,
there's a reason why people
love to own fixed income, whether it's government or corporate fixed income within a retirement
account. They want to do so because all the interest earned is tax sheltered, right? And
it kind of goes really similarly for staking, right? If you earn any sort of income or rewards
or profits within a retirement account, it's all tax sheltered. So by being able
to do Solana staking and then earning those rewards, you get to be sheltered from taxes,
which is very different when you stake on other non-retirement account platforms.
I guess I'll kind of open it up to you, Borovic, to just kind of get started. Do you have any
questions that's kind of top of mind about the staking offering or just kind of thoughts in general?
Yeah, no, I do have a bunch of thoughts on that, actually. I think that, you know,
letting your money, you know, I guess, grow tax-free in a sheltered account, that's,
I think that's what, you know, at least I would love that, right, personally. And I'm sure a lot
of people like that as well, because, you know, it's less tracking, it's less headache.
You know, you don't have to kind of, you know, if you make a bunch of trades in a day, in a week, you don't have to, you know, kind of rush to, like, figure out your cost basis on every trade.
Or you don't have to, you know, you don't have to, like, figure out the taxes for everything.
And I think it takes a lot of stress off and people could just kind of, you know, focus more on, you know, just, you know, buying what they want or, you know, their own strategies versus their own strategies versus the tax side of things,
which adds an extra layer of stress. Yeah, for sure. I mean, that's the
genesis for why we started this platform over five years ago, almost six years ago,
because people want to be able to buy and sell crypto and take advantage of opportunities that
normally would be exposed to capital gains and to be able to do it in a tax sheltered manner.
There's a reason why most of the buying and selling in assets in the United States and globally
is within retirement accounts. It's because people want to be able to tax shelter as part
of their financial planning strategy.
In terms of the offering in general, I can go through some of the highlights.
Do you have any high-level questions for us in terms of the different components of the staking offering and how clients can actually initiate the staking process or just any of those dynamics. Otherwise, we can just kind of get into it. Yeah, yeah. I think an important
question would be about how the staking is done on your platform. I mean, how the staking
rewards are distributed to users, how often they get them or how it's done. Yeah, absolutely.
People can log into their iTrust Capital account. We can get
into how you create an iTrust Capital account at some point during the conversation as well.
But for folks that want to be able to stake Sol within both their retirement and non-retirement
accounts for us, they can just go into the Solana portion of their dashboard under all assets. They
can just select Solana. They can purchase it if they choose to do so. If they already have Sol within the Solana section of their portfolio, they'll be able just to select
stake. They'll be able to allocate how much Solana that they want to stake. And then it'll take,
I believe it's two to three business days, which is just a typical warmup period for these proof
of stake protocols in order for it to start earning
rewards. They'll be able to just stay in that position for as long as they want. And then when
they choose to unstake, they can select unstake and then it'll take about one to two business days
for those sole tokens, as well as the rewards to funnel back into their account. The sole rewards that accrue are not automatically
restaked. We are going to be working on that for version two because people are certainly going to
be asking that because they're going to want to have compounding rewards. We will be able to build
that eventually. But for now, if they want to restake their rewards, they'll have to unstake
at some sort of regular cadence, and then they'll have to restake the original principal plus the rewards earned in order to
be able to earn those rewards. Are the rewards also tax sheltered?
Anything that's earned inside of a retirement account are tax sheltered, right? And you always
have to ask your financial professional for advice, right? We can't emphasize that enough. We don't provide financial advice, but the way that it works
for retirement accounts is this is why people love owning their fixed income bonds inside of
their retirement accounts because the income earned is tax sheltered. Now, if you have a premium
custody account with us, which is a non-retirement account, you might be exposed to
taxes on those staking rewards. And that's a question for your accountant, right? Because I
know there's a lot of back and forth just over the last few years with the last administration,
the current administration, about the dynamics around taxation for staking rewards. I would
probably say that your financial professional tax advisor will probably say that you are going to have taxes on that.
But once again, not advice.
Speak with your financial professional.
But with inside a retirement account, any income that you earn is tax sheltered.
so um another question i have actually is so um when so when when uh when you do actually stake
are the staking rewards there so they're just reflected right you said you're reflected right
in your balance right and like as um solana and then um you would just have to unstake and then
restake so you can't you can't restake the solana that you got as rewards you have to unstake and then restake. So you can't restake the Solana that you got as rewards.
You have to unstake everything and restake.
Is that what you said?
Right.
So our priority was to be able to launch this product
so people can be able to get into Solana staking right away.
We've had people who've been asking for it for a while,
and we were excited to launch it.
But at this time, when you earn rewards, it's not automatically restaked, right? You need to be able to,
whether you want to do a weekly or monthly, unstake. And then when you unstake and get
your principal and the rewards at that time, then you'll be able to restake once again with
the original principal, as well as the rewards that you've earned. We understand that that's not optimal, but for our version one, this is how we've structured it,
and we're already working in development for version two, which will most likely have that We also have a bunch of our these sort of questions are all great questions.
We comment on everything in our frequently asked questions as well, which you can find
on our website.
And I'm trying to look through some of the other questions that are
coming through here. Another
question I just thought of real quick is as far
as what validator you're using
to stay quick. That's a great question.
We're partnering with both Fireblocks
and Figment for
the launch of this product. We're going to be using
Figment validators, which is something
that we're very excited about.
Figment has very much has
everything directly plugged in on chain. They've been extremely involved with a lot of the
regulatory movements as well when it comes to working with the SEC, having conversations,
all that open dialogue that's been occurring under this new administration. They've very,
very much been involved with trying to figure out,
hey, what's the most compliant, proper way to be able to structure
these staking protocols and these staking infrastructure products
in a way that is very compliant, that is directly on-chain,
which is why we're very excited to be working with Figment.
Let's see.
Another question I had is just, I guess, on staking in general. I don't know if you've touched on future plans.
So you started with Solana first, but if you intend to in the future add other assets?
We absolutely intend on adding other assets.
We're taking everything one step at a time.
We already have people upon our launch are asking when when Ada when ETH, when all these different proof
of state protocols, and we very much know that for our clients, being able to participate
in these web three programs is a big priority for them. So we're going to continue to build
and we're going to continue to offer more proof of state protocols, which one will be
next. I just am not able to announce that just yet, but it will certainly be a priority for us.
We always, and I said this during our last spaces, we're very much a web 2.5 company,
which is a feature, not a bug. We really want to be able to take people who are in the legacy
system, who are crypto curious, who either want to allocate into crypto for the first time,
or really want to do so with some more guardrails in place from a security standpoint
and allow them to get exposure into this new asset class in a really safe, easy way.
So we're going to continue to launch products that get our clients as close to Web3 as possible. What else you got for me?
Otherwise, we can open it up to other questions.
Yeah, I think I asked.
I'm trying to think if there's anything else that I haven't asked yet.
I guess I don't want to get too technical, right?
I mean, you know, unless you want me to get more technical.
You can ask any question that you want and I can, you know, take a fair stab at answering it.
Um, yeah, okay, so I guess something a little more technical would be, let's see, about like any like about Solana slashing, you know, how that could be handled.
you know, when you are tasked with launching staking for users, you can either build something
yourself or you can build something that is involved with a company like Figment that has
a track record and experts in making sure that slashing is limited and or eliminated, right?
So there's only so much that I can do to really comment on the ins and outs of how, you know,
Figment validators are optimal.
But what I can tell you is that during the course of conversations with Figment about
launching this product, we very much prioritize eliminating or limiting as many of those risks
as possible, including slashing risk.
Oh, perfect. Well, that's all the questions I could think of top of my head. I think we could
open it up. Yeah, for sure. I know that we have one individual right here, Yakubu. Let me see if
I can. Let's add Yakubu. We are looking for mostly questions.
We'll have more of an open dialogue in future spaces,
but we are just really focused on just kind of questions right now.
There we go, Yakubu, you're up.
I think this person just requested but didn't necessarily have any questions.
have any questions. While we have folks here, I mean, if we don't have any questions right now,
I don't see any more folks requesting to come into it. I definitely want to take a little bit
more time to discuss our premium custody accounts because the retirement accounts have been our
bread and butter for the last six years. We've already discussed the tax sheltering nature and components of that and why that's
important.
But we've also really emphasized and are super excited about our premium custody accounts.
We speak with a lot of people.
We've heard story after story after story about people who are the gets of these social
engineering attacks and attempts.
And they get all these phone calls and text messages.
And sometimes, unfortunately, newer investors or even experienced investors, they become
the subject of these attacks.
Someone gets into their account.
They get their email.
They get their 2FA.
They get into one of their exchange accounts.
The funds get drained.
Those people come to their iTrust Capital account.
Their funds are not drained, right? Because we have a closed loop system in which funds cannot be drained. So we
love having that conversation around, you know, self-custody versus going with institutional
storage. It's a huge debate right now. I've seen multiple people online having these debates about,
well, self-custody versus institutional storage. And for us, it's not one or the other, right?
It's not just diversifying what you own, but diversifying how you own those assets, right?
And we're talking about someone from the 1700s rolling down with their horse and buggy,
and they have all their gold in their carriage, right?
Who does that, right?
They had some gold to the bank, some gold buried.
Having all of your gold in one storage method was not the right thing to do. And we feel it's the same
way with crypto. Don't just diversify what you own, diversify how you own it. So that's a real
important component too. I do see a request. We have two requests here. Let's have Charles. I
think Charles might have a question. What's up, Charles?
Charles just wanted to be a speaker, but not unmuting.
So I don't know if this person has a question just yet.
Yeah, can you hear me? Yes. Oh, thank you. Uh, yeah,
I've been with iTrust for two years now since I retired from my other job and it's been a hundred percent satisfied with your product. And, um,
I see that now that you have the Solano, um, you said in the future,
you're looking at like, um, probably XRP, Bitcoin, Ethereum.
What kind of like when you say staking, like, is it going to be weekly percentage, monthly,
or how's that going to work? Like how much, like, do you have an idea of the initial one with
Solano, how much the percentage is going to be of, you know, how much you're going to be making
per week or per month? Yeah, that's a really, really great question. So if you look at your dashboard right now,
and then you go into Solana, we have an approximate reward percentage of 6.39% annually,
right? So that's, that's approximate rewards, but that it's almost 6.4%.
rewards, but it's almost 6.4%. That's net of the fees that are charged, right? So there's a fee
that's charged on the rewards, but that 6.39% is actually net of any of the fees that you pay to be
a part of the program on your rewards. And that's an annual percentage, right? So in theory, if you
held your soul in staking for a year, that would be your
reward rate. Now, let's say you go into sole staking for a week or a month, and then you
unstake, you're going to get an amount based on how much was accrued each day, right? So every
single day, there's a certain amount of rewards that are accruing. It's tracked daily. If you
have it in there for 30 days, you'll end up getting 30 days worth of rewards, et cetera.
Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Cause if, you know, say you had a hundred thousand Solana,
6%, you're looking at what, 6,000 Solana if you held for a year.
Yeah, it's just, it's, it's the 6% on the, the $100,000 worth of soul. Now, that's subject to fluctuations in the percentage rate on the soul rewards.
That's also subject to the value of soul.
But at the end of the day, the percentage of rewards is based off of soul, right?
It's measured in soul.
So it's really easy for us to back into a dollar amount and that's always fun,
but it's also right.
It's based on the amount of soul you put in there and then it's also paid out
in soul, right? So rewards are paid out directly in soul.
Yeah, that's tremendous because I mean,
most of the people I know want the actual asset and pay out and not like U.S. dollar or anything like that.
But yeah, this is tremendous.
I don't know if you saw the legislation that went through a big, beautiful bill that went through yesterday,
but they said a lot of the stuff that was holding staking back now is not going to be penalized anymore. So you're not going to get penalized anymore for staking or have to pay the
taxes, especially in something like this, an IRA. So it's just become more beneficial for staking.
And yeah, like I said, you guys have a tremendous product.
We appreciate that. And look, our company and the people in the digital asset space as well, we don't want fast and loose regulation.
We want fair regulation.
That's always been the priority.
And maybe debatably, that was the issue with the SEC in the past and really any crypto regulation.
It wasn't a matter of that we were concerned about it being not positive for being able to make money in crypto.
It was always about being able to have fair regulation, right?
And hopefully now we're kind of getting to that point where the regulation is quote unquote fair.
And we have a lot of, we do have a pretty decent amount of folks in here.
It's like maybe a few dozen folks.
So if people have questions, they're more than welcome to do so.
We'll probably talk for like another five to ten minutes.
Let's see.
We have a request here.
James, roll.
James, how are we doing?
Hey, Jared, man. Good to talk to you, man. I'll tell you what. I've been with you guys since 2020. James, how are we doing? a substantial amount of XRP in that PCA. But the question I have, and I think it's awesome,
you know, you guys are going to be allowing staking for Solana. Is Solana one of the selected few cryptos that you can deposit into your PCA account? Is it available to be deposited?
That's a great question. Yes, people are depositing Sol, just like they're depositing BTC, ETH, XRP every single day into our premium custody accounts.
The premium custody account is really designed to be like a long-term savings account for your crypto.
We've had a lot of people move funds directly from a lot of these mainstream exchanges into our premium custody accounts,
mainly because
they're just done with taking on all the risk for storing their crypto. We've seen people who've had
self-custody since 2021. It's been sitting in their ledger, sitting in their treasure for the last
five years, move funds into our premium custody accounts. We've seen people move funds from just a regular exchange
into our premium custody accounts. And some of them are moving all their funds from self-custody,
but some of them are just moving a portion of their funds from self-custody. And the reason
why they're doing that is because, as I said before, they're just trying to offload some of
the risk onto an institutional storage solution.
We work with Coinbase Prime.
We work with Fidelity Digital Assets.
We work with Fireblocks.
We are offering these unique opportunities for crypto security that are normally only
available for institutions, and we're giving it to retail folks, right?
Some of the offerings that we have, some of the
opportunities we have for cold storage, institutional storage, are only offered to
the black rocks of the world and hedge funds, et cetera. That's kind of a long-winded way to
answer your question, James. But yes, people can deposit Sol into their premium custody accounts,
and they can start staking Sol right away. Hey, that's awesome. And you know,
when I deposited my XRP into my premium custody account, you guys, you know, let me send a,
send a, like a test run, like 20 XRP or $15 worth of XRP, which is awesome because
I always reiterate that to the public. I consider myself a crypto teacher. You know,
I always reiterate that to the public.
I consider myself a crypto teacher.
Whenever you send XRP or Bitcoin or whatever to a centralized exchange, to your wallet, to your PCA or whatever, always send a test run.
Make sure that you put the correct address in.
You put your tag or memo in.
So I appreciate you guys giving me the opportunity to do the test run before I made that large deposit.
And I do appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely. Safety first. There's people who have been in the crypto
space who have been moving funds around from self-custody to exchanges to staking to yield
farming and DeFi. And they still have many panic attacks whenever they send funds on chain.
It's just a very scary thing. Even if you whitelist wallets, it is scary. And we're not
people who are critical of folks who want to self-custody. A lot of people give us feedback
and they're like, well, are you not believers in self-custody
and whatever happened to not your keys, not your crypto?
And we love those people, right?
We love the not your keys, not your crypto people.
But the reality is that when you're in crypto, you think that everyone is crypto native and
everyone has the ability to self-custody and manage their own keys.
And that's just not the truth, right?
If we want to get another 50 to 100 million people
to allocate into the digital asset space,
we're going to need these kind of secure solutions
that it's almost like bowling with those bumpers up, right?
The first time you go bowling,
who wants the bumpers down, right?
You want the bumpers up so you can get your game going.
That's the same sort of mindset
that we have with these accounts.
Hey, I appreciate you answering the questions.
I'm going to put myself back in the audience,
let somebody else come up, but thanks.
I appreciate the service.
Yeah, for sure.
Happy to have you.
Let's go with SpongeTwit.
Do you have a question for us?
Yeah, thanks.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay, just two quick questions.
So one question that I'm going through your FAQs here on staking,
but I don't see what the unstaking period is.
I see that unstake sole will be available in your account
within one to two business days,
but I don't know that that directly speaks to the unstaking period.
Well, the unbonding period for staking from the Solana network is within that time period.
I mean, I think usually it's like one to three business days.
So our process pretty much reflects that, right?
You don't get immediate access to it, but it's back in there within one to two business days.
Okay.
And the follow-up to that is, if I'm not mistaken, restaking.
You guys don't restake.
So does that show up under a different balance header?
And then you get the decision to unstake your currently staked
and then restake the entire unstaked amount plus the
reward amount back into staking?
In an ideal world, we have two things in this offering that we do not currently have, right?
In an ideal world, we one, have automatic restaking for the rewards, right?
So you get the rewards, they accumulate, and then they're automatically restaked.
That would be ideal.
We don't currently have that. The other thing that would be ideal is like a tracker on your
dashboard that shows live how much rewards you currently have. Those two things we are working
on, we take very seriously and we want to be able to have that. But for us, a decision needed to be
made. Well, do we wait until it's picture perfect?
Or do we let people go and start staking now, which is what people want and what they are
really been looking to see for a while?
So we made the decision to launch this now so people can just start accumulating rewards,
participate in staking, get excited about it, which we think is better than nothing.
But of course, in an ideal world, your rewards are automatically restaked, which we do not
have.
But we certainly take seriously building that in for our version two.
Well, let me add something to just on the technical terms.
It takes one epoch, which is about 400,000 blocks.
That's why it's about 48 hours, a little over.
That's what it takes to stake
or unstake so once those 400 ish thousand blocks go through your stake and then to unstake that's
kind of why it takes a little bit of time awesome we love outstanding thank you guys we love the
technicality all right awesome I mean I can I can keep going on and on and on but you know we
certainly appreciate people's time.
I'm sure everyone wants to kind of go about their day.
Does anyone have any final questions that they kind of want to ask about?
I mean, I have a lot of stories about iTrust Capital.
I mean, it seems like we still have people who are here listening and they're interested in the aspect of holding
crypto in a retirement account.
I guess as people maybe noodle on any more questions they have, a story that I really
love is a client that when Bitcoin was at $30,000, we had a client who she made the
decision to convert her traditional IRA that had three Bitcoin at 30K each into her
Roth IRA, meaning she made the decision to pay the taxes on her three Bitcoin in 2021 when it
was at 30K in order to not pay taxes later during retirement, because once you get it into a Roth IRA,
it's tax free. Now, once again, this isn't financial advice you get it into a Roth IRA, it's tax-free.
Now, once again, this isn't financial advice, but it is a great story.
This client's family laughed at her because she wanted to take on an additional $90,000 of ordinary income in 2021 in order to do that conversion.
Three Bitcoin, 30K each, an additional 90K in ordinary income that she would be taxed on that year.
Well, what happened? She did it. She paid the taxes.
But now those three Bitcoin are worth approximately, what, $327,000.
So when she withdraws that during retirement, which she's getting pretty close to, that's going to be tax free.
She saved probably tens of thousands of dollars on income taxes. Now, that's going to be tax-free. She saved probably tens of thousands
of dollars on income taxes. Now that's how you financially plan. Did she take risk? Yes. Is it
financial advice? Absolutely not. But I love that story because there is a lot of power to letting
people self-direct their investments and self-direct their retirement planning the way that we do.
It's one of my favorites. Let's see. Do we have,
oh, requested. We have someone to request. Let's go with Roger, Roger Lincoln. What's going on?
Okay. I guess Roger can ask the question if you'd like.
How do you stake on I just joined? How do you stake on I trust the salon?
Well, if you, if you just joined, you,
you went through the process to onboard, which is great.
You just have to go to the, your individual account. You just have to go to your individual account.
So you go to your dashboard.
You click on the account.
Then you click buy.
Once you click buy, you can scroll down to Solana.
You purchase the sole.
After you purchase the sole, it'll end up in your dashboard within 5 to 15 seconds.
And then once you look at the soul in your dashboard
on the right-hand side, you would just click stake.
And then you would say how much you want to stake.
And then you would say stake my soul.
And then it takes about two to three business days
to start earning rewards.
What's the percentage rate on that?
Right now, the estimated rewards is 6.39%, which is after the fees.
So we have fees.
Our staking service provider has fees all in.
After fees, it's 6.39% annually.
Okay, sounds good.
Awesome.
Happy to have you.
Let's see. Who else do we have here?
Anything from you, Borovic, before we kind of wrap up here?
I think we went over everything regarding staking, staking, unstaking, rewards,
unless you think there's anything we missed.
No, I don't think that we missed anything i mean i can go all day uh answering these questions not just about staking
but about our platform in general and we're just going to be producing more and more content you
can see we produced that video yesterday about the announcement between ondo and ripple and there's
there's endless amounts of content that that we can create based on what's going on in the crypto space right now.
So we're beyond excited.
Really thankful for everyone for tuning in.
And I guess now we just have Bread.
Bread is asking him to do a question.
We'll talk for five more minutes total, right? whether or not Brad has questions to get us to that 1.45 Pacific,
we will kind of stop at 1.45 in five minutes.
So where are you, Brad?
Brad requested.
Here we go.
Brad, what's up?
Hey, thanks for having me up on stage. Appreciate possibility.
Shout out to Borovic and yoni hill
tech and jpna is in here but i was just curious what's your favorite part of your day i get all
the customers i get all the things you can give for them but what's your favorite part of your day
out of all of that such a good question definitely coming out of left field with that question. Favorite part of my day.
I think the thing that I'm most grateful for is to be able to have a role in the crypto space.
And I didn't say job, because I have a job in the crypto space.
in the crypto space, right? I help run operations at itrustcapital. I'm very thankful for that.
I help run operations at iTrust Capital.
I'm very thankful for that.
But before I had this job, when I was searching for this job, I actually found this job on X when
it was Twitter, believe it or not. But I'm most grateful for having a role in crypto.
What does role mean? Role just means playing my part, right? Whether you're just an investor,
a staker, whether you're utilizing a DeFi protocol like Aave for the first time,
or if you're just spreading the good gospel about crypto over July 4th barbecue with your family,
I'm just happy to have a role in crypto. I think for the reason why people get into crypto
isn't just necessarily to make money. If we didn't get the chance to make money, I'm sure a lot of us
would kind of drop out of it.
But it's not just about making money.
It's about having that role, having that community,
being a part of a co-op and being able to feel like
you're a part of something that is bigger than yourself
and that's moving the financial world forward, right?
So absolutely love that question.
And that's a really great place to wrap up,
right? Everyone should have a role in crypto. If you can get a job in crypto, that's even better.
I can attest to it myself. What's that song? It's like every day I'm on vacation because I love my
occupation. So very, very grateful. Grateful for everyone here. Thank you for tuning in. We're
going to wrap it up. We will have this recording.
But, you know, much, much love to everyone.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
Yep, absolutely.
Take care. Take care. Thank you.
