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Solar Foundation, Climate Round & CCN w/ @jhruth & @ColeenChase ☀️
Recorded: Nov. 2, 2023 Duration: 1:15:18Space Recording
Full Transcription
Hello, hello, hello. Can you hear me?
Sorry. Can you hear me?
Yes, I can.
How are you, man?
I'm good. I'm good.
It was just a very hectic day. We had the pooja in the morning and then I had to accompany Ritu to take Kunka to the veterinary. So we were on the road in traffic.
What happened to your cat?
No, nothing. No, no, nothing happened. Like he had a few ticks on his body and he was due for a regular vaccination that they give.
Okay.
So just to get done with all of those things before we head out for Ritu's wedding.
You can remove yourself the ticket. I can show you how to do that.
Yeah?
Yeah.
It's not fun.
You should coach Ritu.
I'll coach Ritu because you don't really need to go to the bathroom like this.
Anyway, good.
Let's remember that this is a recording space.
So let's not go to...
That's okay. I mean, I think such details are what makes such spaces special.
Yeah.
People know that there are human beings behind these pictureless accounts.
Thanks, God.
How was your day?
Ah, very good.
Very good, yeah.
Time to work on the hyper change.
And I'm pretty, I say, happy because probably I found the solution I was looking for in the last two, three months.
And we'll see.
I'll know better in a few days, three, four days.
But if so, then it's, I say, we say it's Volta in Italian.
It's a very important moment because then we can really build up and scale the project.
We'll see.
Great.
That sounds promising.
Yeah, yeah.
You're planning to put a grant out this time, right?
Not with hyper change.
No, no.
I'm still bootstrapping it.
No, no.
I want to focus on sort of paranormal.
All right.
And yeah, I'm keeping bootstrapping it.
And then we'll see in the future.
I don't want to have too many grants.
It would be complicated.
It's communication.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
It would be hard also.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Correct.
Yeah.
So we figured out.
So I was telling you in the morning, we have a rodent problem, right?
In the garden.
So we initially thought that we will, you know, buy some rat poison and, you know, try giving
it to them and poison them and stuff.
But that didn't feel like a very recent way to deal with it.
And then we thought about coexisting, like we will plant like a few plants which the rodents
can consume and then they won't touch the other plants.
But that also didn't seem to be working.
So now we came up with this trap, like this huge bandicoot trap.
We got it on Amazon and we caught our first rodent today.
That's good.
And yeah, we have some footage of me releasing it into the wild.
But yeah, I was really scared when I was doing it.
I was just afraid if it will come after me after I release it.
This is really the origin way to do that.
I always do that.
It doesn't happen often, but every few years, maybe in September, a little mouse come into
the house and they look for places inside when the fall arrive.
And I always do my best to catch it alive and to release it.
Yeah, that's the best way.
So today also, before sleeping, we are going to do that.
Because it's not just one rodent.
We realized quickly that there's multiple, like an entire family that is infested over here.
So it's going to be a long way up.
Yeah, interesting.
Hey there, Colleen.
Just sending you a speaker request.
So sorry.
Ask them to pay their rent.
I mean, it was really funny how we had to deal.
Like me and Shan specifically were like brainstorming on how to sort this.
And today was the first successful way that we did it.
Hey there, Colleen.
So sorry.
I was just ranting on about the region rodent method that we came through at our sanctuary today.
But yeah.
Oh, yes.
No, sorry.
I couldn't get my microphone to turn on.
No worries.
No worries.
How are you?
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm good.
How are you?
I thank you so much for having us here.
No, no worries.
It's really a pleasure to host you guys again.
And we were really glad that you and John could make it together.
I hope he's also joining or did he get caught in a meeting?
He probably got caught for a few minutes, but I think he'll be here.
I was on an earlier meeting with him and I reminded him.
So I'm pretty sure he will make it.
Yeah, that's all the guarantee we need.
But thank you again, Colleen, on short notice for making it to the space.
I'll quickly start, like, we'll start talking about what we have in mind for this space.
Like, in a couple of minutes, I'm just inviting a few more folks.
In the meanwhile, like, if everyone who's joined us, if you could retweet and like the link and, you know, share it with your communities, that'd be really helpful.
I think there's a really important conversation that's going to brew down in this space.
So more folks attend, I think we can, you know, spread the gospel of Solapunk more across each community.
So quickly like, retweet, do your bit.
Thank you so much for that.
But yeah, just give me a couple more minutes, guys, and we'll kick off the space.
Anything you wanted to add, Colleen?
I hope you're having a good morning.
Oh, yes, yes.
It's a dark and rainy morning here in the Pacific Northwest, where I live, just north of Seattle, south of Vancouver.
It's, I think winter has just set in.
So it, yeah, this brings light to my day.
That's kind of a dark one here.
So thank you.
Are you more of a summer person or a winter person?
Yes, let's just say I try to go with the seasons person.
I do, I do like seasons.
And I think what I love to do is I love the light of summer and spring.
And then in winter is when my birthday is and things.
And I wish I could just kind of do the hibernating.
And, you know, just, I tend to, like, just, like, go in, inwards and light candles and read a lot of books.
And my friends are like, are you alive?
We haven't seen you for a while.
So I think I kind of flow with the seasons.
How about you?
Yeah, I'm more of a semi, I think, season person itself.
Like, I like monsoons specifically.
Like, rainy season back home is, it's, it's wonderful.
Like, I don't know what the particular term is to define the smell of just fresh rain falling on the month.
There is a term for it, but I, it can't, it can't come to my, I mean, I can't recall it, but that smell is very addictive.
Like, if you've grown around it, like, it's something that I think a lot of us down south in India actually relate to.
But, yeah, that's more of my vibe.
Welcome, John.
Thank you so much for making it here to the Atlantis Climate Radio.
I was just inquiring if you would be available today.
I was wondering, I mean, I was a bit nervous thinking, like, you know, you got caught in a meeting all of a sudden.
But thank you so much for making your time available for us.
Yeah, so sorry to be a few minutes late.
Was actually hanging out with the Giveth community and telling them a little bit about the Solar Foundation and got a last minute question right at the hour mark.
So I didn't want to leave them hanging.
So, but apologize for being a few minutes late.
I'm sure Colleen's been on the stage.
We usually give, like, at least a 10-minute buffer because we want to just warm up the guests and then, you know, get into the deep questions that we always prepare.
Like, just be ready to have some intense questions thrown at you.
But I think you guys will do a really good job at answering them.
Man, it's just the whole intention of just having this kind of Atlantis Climate Radio through the week, at least have a guest from the space is mainly to motivate builders like us, like young builders who are coming into the space and just having these kind of voices who already have had, like, a lot of experience working towards the region space.
So, thank you both for coming through.
Guido, yes, go ahead.
I can see your hands raised.
Yeah, just to answer your question.
The smell of the rain is called Petrichor.
The word comes from the Greek words Petra, meaning stones, and Hykor, which in Greek mythology refers to the golden fluid that flows in the veins of the immortals.
See, beautiful.
Thank you so much for that wisdom.
I really, I remember the word.
I remember reading about it.
But then, yeah, thank you for that.
Anyway, so let's kick off the space.
I have put requests for people to join in.
But then, yeah, I think as we progress through the space, we'll see a lot more folks tuning into this space.
So, let's quickly start.
I'll just give a brief introduction of who's behind Atlantis' page right now.
It's me, Kiran.
You know me as community and media lead for Atlantis.
And I've been consistently organizing these Atlantis Climate Reggae with the help of Guido and Ritu over the past, I think, few months.
And we've always wanted to bring changemakers who's working in the region space to inspire and encourage young builders to see the kind of conviction and wisdom that they have to share with us.
And in this journey, we had the opportunity to actually stumble upon a project called as the Solar Foundation, who we've been keeping close eyes on because of the incredible work they've been doing on ground.
And luckily today for all of our community and the people who will listen to this session later on, you guys are extremely lucky because we got to get both the founders together on the same space.
So, welcome again, John and Koli.
So glad that you could make the time for this space.
And let's begin.
I feel like it's a...
So, the whole agenda of this space is going to be like I can ask a question to you both.
And in case you feel like it's an answer that has to come from either one of you, like you can unmute yourself and take it.
But there are a few questions that I've prepared that I want both of you all to answer.
So, I hope that's not a problem.
And we can go in however order you want.
It's up to you.
But yeah, just to, you know, kick off this session, I just want to know something that we ask every changemaker who comes on this space.
What brought you particularly to the climate sector?
Like, what was that one thing that happened in your life that made you stop and think that maybe the direction that I've taken might not be the right one?
Or, you know, there is a future that I need to work on and to build on?
What was that one thing that happened in your life?
Maybe we'll start with Colleen and then we'll go to John.
Sure.
I love this question.
Thank you, Kiran.
Um, hello, everyone.
And for me, the one thing that happened that got me really fired up about climate is we used to live in Idaho in a mountain town.
Um, and I could tell it was getting hotter and drier and water was becoming more of an issue.
But we actually experienced a massive wild fire in our town.
Um, it did not burn houses because, um, a lot of the places where it was burning, including like up to the edge of the ski resort, were very well protected.
Um, and a lot of it was protected by private insurance, uh, companies that even like brought in their own firefighters.
Um, and it just opened my eyes to like the situation and how climate justice is such a big issue for me because, um, there were a lot of people that couldn't have afforded their own, uh, or had, you know, their insurance companies bring in their own firefighters and wrap their houses in whatever they wrap them in and, and have people take their famous art away.
I mean, that's not us at all, right?
Um, but then a lot of our friends who were on evacuation notice came and stayed with us and we were watching like some of these very wealthy people deal with the fires and, and, um, you know, I realized for climate, for me, climate change affects absolutely everyone.
There is no escaping it.
Um, and some people will have more of the means to actually deal better with it.
And I think that's, and sometimes those are the people who are, who are causing the problem more than people, for example, in Africa who, you know, have a very low carbon footprint and yet they're suffering the worst effects.
So I, I guess it just really opened my eyes and it made it very personal and I really hate fire forest fires.
Like it's such a health risk and it's, it's like nightmare situation.
And, but I'm, I'm actually super glad for that experience because, um, it, it made things real to me.
Things got real, really fast.
And my eyes were opened about more of the situation of the world and how we're all interconnected and we need to do more and not just for ourselves, but for, for people like in the world.
And that's one reason I like, um, web three, because I feel like we can coordinate with people like you guys, like everywhere in the world, people who share our, um, concern for the planet and our knowledge that we need to do something and not just for ourselves, but, but for everyone.
Absolutely.
Thank you for sharing that story equally.
Uh, I was not sure.
I think most of us wouldn't have known that unless, you know, you would have shared that.
Uh, but, uh, yeah, uh, John, would you like to share your incident?
The incident.
Oh no.
Um, I would say what came to mind is, uh, when I was 21, 22.
Now I'm drawing a blank what, how old I was, but, um, I had the pleasure of walking, uh, or backpacking half of the Pacific crest trail.
And for those not familiar, uh, in the U S there's, uh, a few long trails that, that go across the U S.
And so this one called the Pacific crest trail, uh, goes from the Mexico border all the way up to the Canada border through California, Oregon, and Washington.
And, and so I, I, I hiked about 1300 miles.
So was on the trail for a little over three months, uh, almost, you know, we certainly came into towns about once a week, but most of the time, literally just backpacking and, and living out in the, in the wilderness.
And, uh, while I'd always appreciated the outdoors and nature and, uh, always, I guess was somewhat of an environmentalists and, and cared about the planet.
It just brought this new perspective to like literally live out in it and kind of be away from civilization a little bit for a while.
It just really made me so aware of, of our, our human connection to the planet and, and how important this planet is to our lives.
Um, but also seeing things like, you know, in the, the Southern part of the trail, we end up in the Hills above Los Angeles.
And, and they always talk about like the smog in Los Angeles, but you can literally see it from the mountains.
Like it looked like it was a foggy day, misty day, but that's the smog out there.
That's not just, uh, you know, a natural fog, if you will.
And so things like that, you really could see new perspectives on, uh, on how the, the, you know, how humans are really impacting the planet.
Um, and, you know, not, I don't want to take the whole, I guess, space with the, with the story, but, you know, all that's to say that it really just deeply ingrained in me this, this belief that whatever I was going to do with the rest of my life, it, it had to be about making a difference for the planet.
And for, uh, all of us people that live on it and, uh, made my way into the solar energy industry and worked in solar for many years before, um, before jumping into web three.
So about 15 years building a bunch of large solar, uh, projects around the U S and, um, now I, here I am in, in web three, uh, really trying to use all that we're building here to make a difference in the world.
Um, so that's, that's, I guess how I got to, uh, got to climate and how I got to, uh, here.
Thank you for sharing that.
I think, uh, you were a bit distracted by a call coming to your phone, but, uh, you could have, uh, you know, paused and taken the call if it was an important one, but I'm really sorry.
I'm so sorry for asking that, uh, question.
Oh, no, I'm sorry that I, I saw it buzzing.
I didn't even recognize the number, but I should have maybe hit the cancel.
I didn't realize it was affecting the, uh, affecting the mic.
So hopefully, uh, hopefully you got most of that, but, uh, anyway,
uh, so yeah, thank you so much, uh, both of you for sharing that intimate, uh, uh, you know, the bit of your life that actually made you, uh, change your perspective towards, uh, what you wanted to do and finding your true purpose.
And we are glad that you did because, uh, we wouldn't be having this conversation if, uh, either of you didn't feel like exploring into Web3.
Um, so moving on to the next question, uh, uh, it's, it's almost public information at this point that, uh, you know, you both are, uh, major figures towards, uh, uh, driving, um, you know, the, the creation of climate coordination network, which is going to, you know, take care of the, uh, future Gitcoin climate trends.
And, uh, uh, as founders of solar foundation, also, uh, my question is, how do you manage being involved with, uh, such big entities?
Like, does it ever get taxing for either of you?
Um, you can go John first and then call you that order.
So basically how do, how do we deal with interacting with, I guess,
when you say large organizations, you mean like more of the partners that we're working with or?
Right.
Right.
Like, um, does it get taxing for you to maybe prioritize?
Like, how do you balance your day out?
Like if you have to, uh, you know, contribute towards the climate coordination network.
And at the same time, there's work at solar foundation.
Like how do you juggle between these two?
John, I think, I think he's talking about how you are a master multitasker.
Like that's, that's how he juggles his, every, all the million projects he's doing.
I just had to interject that.
I, I think that that is, yeah, that, yeah, for sure.
That's, that's, I, I think I'm, I do my best at being a, a, uh, miraculous multitasker.
We'll try not to get distracted in this hour to buy too many things, but you know, for,
for context, like up on my screen right now, I have, you know, one of my five or six email
boxes on the screen on my left, a spreadsheet I was working on earlier on my right down below
that.
I have telegram open, WhatsApp open and discord open all in that window.
So I can see all the alerts that are coming in there on the various channels.
Uh, and so I just sit here at this desk and crank as hard as I can for as many hours of
the day as I can give.
And frankly, I probably don't balance it very well to be perfectly honest.
So I, I don't know if I have the balance of it down yet, but I do, uh, hope that I accomplish
a lot of things and create a lot of value out there, but it is, uh, you know, I think
it is a struggle to, to balance it all.
And there's, um, you know, so much important work to be done.
And, uh, so I'm, I'm, I'm working on finding ways to maybe reduce, I think I have about five
either jobs or sort of in part of teams.
Uh, and so that's starting to be a bit much, uh, having rolling CCN out of, out of Gitcoin
has been, uh, has been a extra lift cause I, uh, wasn't expecting us to immediately start
a, another organization on top of everything that, uh, Colleen and I are working on.
But, um, so, so that's how I try to, uh, find balance and try to get it all done, but
it's not easy.
Yeah, I could, uh, I couldn't say that I could relate to it, but, uh, yeah, Colleen, please
share your own experience as well.
Oh, sure, sure.
And I just have to also say that John is amazing at how much he cares and how much he gets done
while still giving like really personal attention to so many people and, and helping people.
Um, you know, I don't know how he does it.
I, it, the, the image that comes to mind is Ben West and how he sometimes posts juggling,
uh, videos.
That's, that's like John, but just speed it up and put a lot more balls in the air.
Um, but also he, he still takes the time to really talk with people and care and, you
know, I'm super lucky to be able to work with him.
I, I am not that kind of person.
I have to just have a few projects and they all have to have meaning or I just can't make
myself do them.
Um, so, um, not that your projects don't have meaning, John, not that at all.
Um, but for me, I just have to pick the, the highest impact, most meaningful ones for,
for my, my heart.
And, um, you know, I was really lucky to meet Ben West who got me into the climate solutions,
um, round at Gitcoin.
And that was, uh, like a year and a half ago, almost two years now.
And so that's how I got into the web three space.
And then it just really kept expanding.
I met so many great people at Gitcoin.
I love the work that they were doing.
Um, but then I really wanted to do something for the world myself.
And I saw all these cool projects like Atlantis Dow, earth-based soil, um, Ioweka, Uganda helpers,
you know, too many to list really, but there were so many great climate solutions projects.
And I really felt called to do something, um, similar.
And so, um, that's when John and I started talking cause he is such a good solar base.
And I really just am an action oriented person who wants to like move things forward in the
world.
And I'm so frustrated with the slowness of pace of climate action.
I personally think a lot of people want to do more.
They just don't know how to do it.
And it gets really bogged down.
It's not, it's not easy, even if you really want to do something.
Um, and I can give you many examples of false starts in my life where I was like, I'm going
to do a microgrid right in my neighborhood.
But no, that takes too long.
And there's too many policy things against it.
And, you know, uh, when I found the solar foundation with John, I think it gave me just
that sense of I'm taking action in the world, even if it's just a tiny bit of action that
that has real life impact.
And, and that's really what I was going for.
And that's what I really appreciate working, um, on the most and working with John on.
So eventually Gitcoin started maybe moving away from, from climate, or at least I started
moving away from just being able to focus on climate.
Let's just say that.
And so that's why I ended up just, um, leaving, um, Gitcoin itself, but still being a part of
the climate advisory team, which meets every Friday.
Um, and we're the ones who are, um, taking over, not taking over.
How do we say it, John?
We're, um, helping decentralize.
Is that the best way that the, the, the climate solutions round now?
So, yeah, I mean, we're, we're decentralizing the round and then we'll be forming some sort
of a, you know, legal entity that, that we all, uh, you know, work for and with, but yeah,
I think we're decentralizing and, and just to add to what you're saying, I think the most
important piece that I missed in balancing is, is honestly, is the teams that I work with.
So, uh, yes, I do a ton of work, you know, but at the same time, like the solar foundation
at this point wouldn't exist if Colleen wasn't able to spend as much time as she does on
And I think we make a great team in that way that I, I have a lot of big ideas and a lot
of vision, but I can't spend 40 hours a week or even 20 hours a week on the solar foundation
right now, at least.
And so, um, you know, having, having a partner in Colleen that can be, you know, handing a,
handling a ton of, of sort of the day-to-day operations of this organization, uh, is, is the
reason that it exists today at this point, because it, you know, if it was just me trying
to fit it in, like, there's just not enough hours and, and the same with, with the climate
coordination network, you know, I, I put a lot of time into the team, but also it's an
amazing team of folks that have a lot of amazing ideas and, and a lot of, uh, skills and, and
things that, that bring so much value to, to it.
So it is the teams that I work with that really, uh, makes it all work at the end of the day.
Um, yeah, and it's, it's not easy, um, Kieran, it is, it's such a challenge to figure out
like, what are the priorities and, and how do we, I think the climate solutions program
decentralizing is, is such an amazing opportunity, but we want to make sure that we have more
people getting involved.
Um, and the round is coming up so quickly that we haven't really had a chance to, to like
implement what that will look like.
Um, but that is our vision to have more people involved as advisors, as people who I know
will offer good ideas, but, but just for now with, um, GG19 coming up so quickly, starting
on November 15th, um, we've had to just really, um, buckle down and focus on what is this round
going to look like?
How are we going to, how is this small group of people like going to make it happen so that's,
it benefits the most climate solutions possible.
Um, so yeah, we've been, we've been a little hairy lately, so we appreciate everyone's patience
for sure.
No, definitely.
You both have, uh, this is something that I can say with full confidence from my side
of the community that you have all of our support and, uh, what you're doing for the
community is not something small.
The fact that you actually want to create a separate body just to focus on the climate
round is in itself a big deal.
And I feel this is the right way forward also for all the, uh, for getting more visibility
and, uh, you know, more focus driven, uh, projects on boarded onto the climate round.
I think this might be the, um, you could say the step in the right direction.
So kudos to both of you for your effort.
Thank you for that lovely answer.
Like I can see, um, you know, even, uh, I can say this proudly that even, uh, we at Atlantis
have, uh, this kind of a relationship with the core team that we are building over here
where, uh, you know, each of us know what our strengths are and we play, uh, complimenting
that.
And that's the best way I think.
So you can grow as a team also and just understanding what level, uh, you know, you can hit and the
other person cannot, and just complimenting them, um, seeing them eye to eye on each step
of the way, it just really makes a huge difference no matter what the size of the team is.
So it's completely understandable the way you and John function.
It's, it's just, uh, in tandem always.
Um, let's, let's talk maybe furthermore about, uh, the foundation.
Like, uh, uh, uh, could you share maybe with the community about some of your most successful
projects and collaborations you've had on ground?
Um, uh, there's an open-ended question.
Like either of you could take this up, but yeah.
You want to start us off, Colleen, and then I'm happy to, to add in?
Oh yeah, that's, that sounds great.
Um, we, uh, have mainly focused our projects in, um, Africa.
We have projects in Nigeria, in Uganda, and we're working on a microgrid at the moment in Tanzania.
Um, a lot of times what we focus on just to amplify our, um, impact.
Our community serving NGOs, like John, I think mentioned, like schools, um, healthcare centers,
orphanages, um, one of our projects is here.
I'd love to mention them.
Our very first project, actually, um, IOWECA, Uganda.
Hi, Jonathan.
Um, was the reason we even started this was, uh, IOWECA was a fellow, is a fellow climate
solutions grantee, and at the bottom of their, um, grant proposal, each round, I would notice,
and John would notice, a bunch of people noticed, that they said they would really love to have
solar someday.
Um, and I kept thinking, someone should do this.
Someone should do this.
We should, you know, someone should help them get solar.
It seems like such a no, no-brainer.
And the more I looked into it, the more I couldn't believe that, um, something like 600 million
people in Africa, most of them in sub-Saharan Africa, do not, do not have access to electricity.
And, and to me, this is mind-blowing because it's the perfect place for, um, off-grid solar.
It has the perfect weather for off-grid solar, and solar is plummeting in cost.
So it just, it just seemed like something that someone should do, and, and no one was
doing it.
So eventually, John and I got together, realized that we felt the same way, and, um, decided
to, you know, help, help Jonathan and IOWECA, which is a really super cool agroforestry and
regenerative farming NGO, very community-based, um, has a focus on helping women and children.
So it really, you know, what we did was, our first project was just perimeter solar lights
and some fencing to, um, protect their, their nursery.
And then recently, we also did, um, a mobile solar solution for Jonathan's office so that
he, um, can have power for his office operations.
And I know he's doing some incredible things now with skills training.
Um, we're also looking at doing a pilot project with him.
So, uh, like to help 50 women, um, be empowered by small solar, solar, um, solutions and replace
the kerosene lamps in their homes that are, you know, polluting and, and not very efficient
and bad for their children and things like that.
So what's interesting to me is we just provide the foundation, which is power.
But then, um, you know, the people we work with are doing amazing things in the world.
So we just kind of, our goal is to empower their mission with, with clean, renewable energy.
And it's, um, it's super cool to see some of the effects that, that come from that, that
are, you know, we often don't even expect, but it just, it's like a ripple effect.
It's, it's very, um, very interesting how it keeps evolving.
And once people get solar, then they think, oh, we can do something else here.
What else can we do?
And then they can get storage and they can get, um, they can see different economic opportunities
as well.
So, uh, I really, that's why I love working in solar and that's, that's just one project.
I'm sure John wouldn't mind speaking of some of our other projects.
Yeah, definitely.
And I, yeah, I echo everything, uh, Colleen said.
It's just been honestly amazing.
You know, we, we thought, oh, we will bring solar to, to people and help to fund that.
And there's just so much more than just, oh, now there's lights in, in our home or in
our school.
Like the, the impact it has on people is just general wellbeing.
And even there, you know, you know, hearing from teachers that, you know, one of the other
projects, the, uh, is with the helper social development, uh, foundation.
And we were able to provide a solar, uh, solar system and several computers for them to set
up a computer lab and to hear from the teachers there, how much it was a morale boost now, now
that they, that their school was, was a nicer place to be.
And so they felt better about their jobs and prouder to, to work there.
And, um, yeah, those are the little things we, we never really anticipated when we, uh, started
the organization, but, uh, it seems like with every project we do, there's just a new piece
of feedback that, uh, that's just so inspiring.
And, um, you know, we really, we're, we're talking about very small systems in the grand
scheme of things.
We're not talking about fields of solar.
We're talking about, you know, eight, 10 solar panels and some batteries and, and the
amount of impact it can have is, is true.
It's just mind blowing at times.
Um, we're actually going to be working with the helper social development to, to install
a second system in their community now for another, uh, community solar plus a computer
lab where they're going to be doing some training there.
Uh, they're really, uh, excited to be building a curriculum around, um, both computer skills
in general, but also web three and, uh, so excited for, to be able to, to power that and
to make that happen.
Um, and yeah, maybe we'll pause there.
I'm sure you got some other great questions and so maybe we'll see where the conversation
goes from there.
Yeah.
Just to maybe, uh, add as a follow-up question to the projects, like, is there any criteria
that, uh, you, uh, look at before you choose which project to collaborate with from the foundation's
point of view?
Um, that is so interesting that you're asking us this question, um, Kieran, we're, we were
just having a conversation with a young woman who's going to help us, um, get more of a
formal intake process, um, because at first it was, it was more relationships.
One of the things that's cool about web three and the community solutions round, and, um,
we hope to take that to the climate, um, coordination network as well, is that we can
really coordinate with people and build relationships.
And then we know people who know people and it's, it's kind of like a organic process, which
is what we've used before to, to hone in on our projects.
Um, but now we're, we're trying, we're getting more projects that are coming in and we're
trying to figure out what is our best, um, way of, of having an intake form and making
sure that, you know, we set out and, and enable projects that really have the, the widest
impact, which for us is very much schools, um, maybe some healthcare facilities, anything
very education based at the moment has been our focus because, um, if you work with schools,
then every year new students get to have the effects and it's like your, your, um, your
impacts just keep magnifying.
So I really like that.
Um, definitely people who are crypto native, it's easier to work with for us.
You know, that's kind of part of our mission is to leverage new technologies to fund and
accelerate solar in, um, underserved communities and emerging markets.
So, um, having, uh, at least a, a fairly good understanding of crypto is, is really helpful
for our work.
Also making sure that they have an NGO number, um, and that they're, they're, for me, and
I think John feels this way too, that they have, um, an impact, especially on, um, women
and children and families.
That's, that's, you know, more of a community too, that I think isn't always, uh, reached
with, with this kind of work, especially unpowered women and their families.
So that's, you know, we're just defining it, I guess is the short answer, but this is kind
of how we're leaning at the moment.
I think it's, uh, it's something, uh, it's again, uh, step towards the right direction
because as you grow as a foundation also, and there's going to be a lot of interest coming
towards you and, um, having that, uh, uh, vision to actually invest in credible projects
who's doing, um, proper, um, on ground impact, you could say, in a sense, uh, that's something
crucial for you all to maybe analyze before you invest further into them.
So it's, it's, it's actually really good that you're doing it.
Um, before I head on to the next set of questions, I just want to ask the audience, uh, if anyone
has any questions for our speakers, and they're lovely enough to answer any question that you
ask, I hope they are, but, uh, yeah, uh, if you have any questions, please, uh, click on
the microphone and I'll grant you access or, um, Guido, if you have any questions, please
do raise your hand.
Otherwise, I'll just continue with the questions that I have.
I'll just give you all a couple of seconds to react.
I think we're good.
All right.
So, uh, my next question to both of you would be, um, uh, I read, uh, in your website that
you've been collaborating with, uh, something known as the SDG impact funds.
Um, it's just, uh, it's a very personal question from my side because I couldn't really, um,
you know, understand the, uh, working structure of it.
If you could maybe explain how these impact funds help you fund other projects, how, how
does it go about doing that?
Yeah, I can jump in there.
Um, so the SDG impact fund, uh, what it is, is one of the, uh, one of the larger donor
advised funds in the U S.
Um, and so a donor advised fund is kind of like a nonprofit that it's almost like a nonprofit
fund, if you will.
Um, and so traditionally it's been like larger banks and things that would have one of these
staff funds that their, their clients could utilize for tax efficiency to, to basically
put funds into and then distribute them later to, uh, to projects.
Um, the reason that we chose to jump in and get, uh, uh, to start working with them in the
beginning was that, um, because we started the project really towards the end of, uh, last
year we had actually the potential to get, uh, a couple of larger donations coming in, but
those folks did need some tax efficiency.
And so we knew that we couldn't get a nonprofit, uh, set up in time, uh, to take those funds
directly and be able to give that, uh, sort of tax receipt, if you will.
Um, and so with the SDG impact fund, it allowed us to set up basically an account with their
donor advised fund.
So they hold the funds that we received through those donations.
Um, one of the larger for seeing a few various PFPs out there, but for any of you out there
that know, uh, Gary V and V friends, um, we're one of their nonprofit, uh, partners.
And so we received a percentage of their secondary sales from last year.
So they made a very significant, uh, over a hundred thousand dollar donation at the end
of last year.
So it really has seeded the organization and allowed us to do a lot of the work that we've
done this year.
So very grateful for them, uh, for that, but, uh, back to the SDG impact fund, um, that allowed
us to, to take those donations and then the SDG impact to, to issue, uh, sort of the tax
documents back to, to, uh, V friends for those donations.
Um, we are now, uh, moving towards becoming a nonprofit.
And once that gets set up, then we likely will just run most of our, um, funds through
our own bank accounts instead of running it through the impact fund.
Um, the, the other advantage there, uh, what's a little unique about them or, or DAFs in general
is that they can, uh, intake things besides, uh, money in general.
So obviously they can take fiat money and crypto, but should we ever have say a donor that wants
to donate a home to us?
We could basically work through SDG impact fund to, to basically allow them to donate
that to us into a fund or, or maybe a large art collector that wants to donate a piece
of art, these sorts of things that, um, more like valuable physical things that, uh, that
these rich people might want to donate to, uh, help with their taxes.
And, um, so for any, you know, hopefully some of those things happen in the future.
Hopefully we have, uh, you know, people donating Picassos and mansions to us someday, but that's
another way that we could utilize that fund if we ever, uh, come comes down to it.
Uh, similar to them, we also, once we become a nonprofit, we'll likely do some work with
endowment for anyone familiar out there or not familiar with endowment there.
They essentially allow any nonprofit to have a on-chain donor advised fund, uh, through
their, their system.
And so it's a really unique way that any nonprofit can begin to onboard crypto into, uh, into their
organization via that, that fund.
So, uh, pause there, I guess, and see where we go.
Thank you so much.
Um, it was something really new to me.
So that's why I just wanted to ask you that question just to shed some more light onto that.
Um, my next question is much more broader, uh, you could say, like, I just want to know
from both of you, like, uh, during your entire journey, uh, founding, uh, the Solar Foundation
and, uh, you know, investing in, uh, projects like Ayahuwaka and helper social foundation.
Uh, what were some of the challenges that you faced along the way?
Oh, that's a, that's a very good question.
Um, there, yes, there are always challenges.
I can give you a, a recent one, which maybe I hinted at, um, which is, I'm, we are very
excited to work with this school called Omawa in Tanzania.
Um, and it, it's a school that is free for the students.
Um, so very underprivileged children.
Um, the teachers live, uh, around the school and then there's offices as well.
And we're super excited because it's going to be our first, like, full microgrid.
Um, so everything's going to be wired, uh, together to share the power.
And it's, they're also planning a community charging center, which, um, I'm, I'm interested
in this concept because maybe there's, this is another way that we might be able to do
some regenerative funding model where maybe we, we put the upfront, um, costs, uh, we fund
the upfront costs of the solar solution, but then maybe through the community charging model
as people come in and charge their phones or their computers or medical device or something
like that, um, maybe we can recoup some of the funds and then do more solar.
So it's an interesting model.
We're not planning on doing that for this Omawa project, but, um, one of the things that
was hard is that they weren't comfortable using crypto.
Um, so it was really great because, um, refi Tanzania, um, is a project that's also in
the climate solutions round.
So we asked them if they would work, um, with the people at Omawa to learn and to just try
out, you know, how to get a wallet, how would it work?
Um, and we sent them a little test amount, um, to see, and, um, we're, we're kind of excited
about like building that collaboration.
Um, but sadly they still, even after that, they still weren't super comfortable receiving
the, the, all the funds for the microgrid that way.
And I totally understand.
Um, I was really happy that they gave it a try.
Maybe in the future it will be easier.
Um, but that's, that's one thing I think is some people are crypto native and it's a
little bit easier to work with them.
And we probably should have asked that up front.
Um, but on the other hand, it's all a learning journey and we're just planting seeds that
maybe they'll grow some flowers in the future.
No, absolutely.
Like, uh, I think this is a challenge that we also face over here going to grassroots communities
and, um, you know, India is not really a very crypto friendly, um, nation, but, uh, it's,
it's challenging.
I, I completely understand, uh, what, where, what you were relating to, um, in any case,
uh, let's move on to the next question I have, uh, this is more leaning towards the climate
coordination network, uh, from both of your point of view, like, uh, creating this climate
coordination network, uh, um, what kind of a positive impact do you think this will have
on the way the future Gitcoin climate round functions?
Um, what's that you want to do?
Yeah.
Yeah, you are.
Um, so I think it offers, um, I think there's a lot of potential things that it offers us
that we maybe didn't have before working inside of Gitcoin.
Um, the biggest of which, uh, I foresee is that, uh, especially after we set up some
sort of, uh, uh, legal entity that is operating the fund, uh, there appears to be a ton of
funding out there in the world for climate work.
And so I think decentralizing away from Gitcoin and then standing up the CCN as a standalone
entity, uh, while we are a young organization, I think we will be, uh, ideally placed to be
able to go after some, some more funding that we might not have been able to do within Gitcoin.
Um, so I think that there's that piece.
I think particularly we will likely set up some sort of a nonprofit structure that, that
manages the fund.
Uh, we're still in the early stages of figuring out what exactly that, that legal entity is.
But at that point we can provide tax efficiencies to any donors that might donate to the fund.
So, uh, that certainly is a little bit of a advantage over, uh, Gitcoin, which isn't, doesn't
have, um, a nonprofit legal entity at least.
Um, and then I, I think over time it's going to allow us to let the community have more involvement,
not to say that they couldn't have, if we remained within Gitcoin, but I think it, it, uh,
it provides a lot of ability for us to decide the fate of, of, of the organization as a whole
and, and where we go with it and then how we can involve the community in, in making more
decisions and how we distribute funds.
It also potentially, you know, and it's not going to be in the near future, but, you know,
it would allow us to utilize potentially other funding or mechanisms to distribute our funds,
to run our own, you know, direct grants program potentially.
Um, just opens up a lot of opportunity, um, outside the Gitcoin, uh, centric ecosystem while
still being able to obviously participate with, uh, with the quarterly grant cycle.
And, and like I say, potentially even, uh, grant rounds in between.
So I, I think it, um, just allows us a lot of flexibility, but all that's to say that we're
still very, you know, very grateful for all that, uh, Gitcoin did to, to stand this up initially
and to raise some funds and, uh, to build some great partnerships, which we'll be able to
utilize as we, uh, grow.
So, uh, you know, a lot of thanks to them, but it was time for, time for us to kind of
graduate and, and, uh, see what's next for, for the climate round and, and for the network.
Thank you so much.
That was a great answer.
Colleen, do you want to add something to that?
Just really briefly, Kieran, um, we have also talked about doing things in between rounds.
So when, one idea is to expand, um, what the climate's climate solutions round and the
community actually means, like maybe host some virtual events, um, is one idea that's come
up and, and bring the community together closer, foster more, more partnerships and, and, you
know, figure out different ways to increase our matching pool funds, things like that.
Um, I think it's, it's super exciting because it will be a community that's completely focused
on, on, uh, climate action and climate solutions, um, versus being more dispersed into all the other
rounds.
Amazing.
I really can't wait to see what, uh, you all will cook up.
Um, I'm really excited that, uh, you know, you have started this coordination network and
it's really promising for young builders and project centric the space to see that, uh, you
know, the focus is not taken away from climate action and it's more like, uh, you know, revitalizing
and building a really good foundation so that you can build up from there.
So, well done.
I think, uh, it's, it's a very good, uh, decision that, uh, you all made at the end of the day.
And, uh, I hope all the success, uh, for this endeavor.
Um, just, uh, before we, you know, wrap up the space, I know it's been an intense conversation.
I thank both John and Colleen for being a part of it.
Before we wind up, I, I just have like a couple of questions that probably might be, uh, more
on a personal level.
Like my question to you would be, uh, what's next for you both on a personal level?
Like what is it that you haven't, uh, explored in Web3 or would love to, uh, look into if you
had the time.
John, you can go first and then we can follow up with Colleen.
Um, I guess the, the thing that comes to mind and, and wanted to make sure to talk about
at least a minute on the space, um, is something that I have been working on, but, uh, is really
just about to launch.
But, um, through the work of the solar foundation and then, uh, my business spark for a while
has been trying to figure out what it wants to be when it grows up.
And, uh, we, we found a real need at the solar foundation as we began to think about how
we track and, and, um, look at our impact as a whole and, and more importantly, how we
can share that impact with, with others.
And so I'm working on building a permissionless protocol for minting impact certificates that
the solar foundation will be able to use to, to mint NFTs that represent the projects that
we build.
And along with that, uh, a set of tools for evaluating that impact and, and making claims
of, of impact.
So utilizing the hyper cert protocol for claims of impact, and then some tools for evaluating
that impact, uh, and then wrapping it all up into one NFT that, that holds all of the
proof and, and claims of impact.
And so the idea for the solar foundation and, and where I hope that it grows even, uh, you
know, to really all nonprofits NGOs long-term is, uh, the ability to begin to take advantage
of retroactive funding for the work and the impact that an organization is doing.
Um, you know, right now in the U S alone last year, there was $500 billion worth of charitable
giving.
And so my, my vision is in, you know, let's, let's call it five years time that we can carve,
carve 5% of that away into retroactive funding and create an enormous fund that can be funding
an impact that, uh, nonprofits and, and NGOs such as the solar foundation can be, um, doing
the work that they set out to do in the world, making the impact that they want to make in
the world, and then, uh, telling the story of that through these digital certificates so
that we can go out to donors and, and be able to allow them to fund retroactively this
impact that all of these organizations are making the world.
And so that in turn, then they can take that as funding and go to make more impact.
Uh, and I believe that if this is stood up properly, that all of a sudden, if you have
a robust marketplace for impact that nonprofits and NGOs could start to spend 80% of their
time doing the work that they want to do and 20% of their time thinking about how they're
going to, you know, monetize this impact instead of what's currently happening, which
is 80% of their time is spent on fundraising and maybe 20% of their time is spent on actually
doing the things that they set out to do.
And so not only does it free up more time for nonprofits to do the work they want to
do, but also starts to create these flywheel effect in the treasury that, uh, the solar
foundation can do a certain number of projects with the money that we have.
We can tell this story to our donors and they can claim that impact and retroactively fund
our work so that then the following year, we can go do it again and again and again.
So, uh, that's, that's, I guess what I'm most excited about and, and what I've been dreaming
a lot about lately, but, um, that's, that's for me.
What's, uh, what stands out?
What about you, Colleen?
Oh, I am very excited about that project, John.
I'm very excited because, um, one of my issues or next steps as John knows is how to figure
out ways that women can be more empowered with their solar solutions.
It's called like moving them up in the clean energy ladder or something like that is the
official term.
But for me, it's such an issue, um, that, uh, women and their families are like not able
to cook in a clean, in a clean manner, like, and they're spending so much of their time trying
to figure out fuel for their cooking and, um, then, then it pollutes their homes where
they're cooking.
And so clean cooking is a huge issue for me.
Also, um, maybe solar powered imply appliances.
How could I use impact certificates to help women, um, get like solar powered refrigerator,
um, solar powered cookers.
I know they're not quite out there, but I'm, I'm sending it out to the universe that, that
this is my vision.
Um, so that's, that's one thing.
And my other thing is, um, how do we help people use, uh, web three for good?
I feel like I have young, um, adult children and I was just talking to a student in a university.
John and I were here who really wants to get involved with the solar foundation.
And I think there's a real need in the world where people, for example, the student we were
talking to, she's like, thank you so much for talking to me because I didn't even know
that there was a way I could do use crypto for good or web three for good or blockchain
for good.
I thought, you know, it's just going to have to go be a banker and then try to figure out
how to give my money to nonprofits.
But she's so inspired with the fact that maybe she could actually use these tools to
take real action in the world and have a more meaningful and sustainable career.
And that really speaks to me.
I would like to find, um, a way to help people.
I know like DreamDAO is doing some great work for, um, younger kids.
Um, but I think this is really important.
People, people are tired of just doing the same old, same old and feeling like what they're
doing isn't accomplishing anything meaningful.
So I'm on a mission for that as well.
Brilliant.
I congratulate both of you on how far you've come in life.
And, uh, it's, it's an honor truly to, uh, have this kind of a space where we can have
these kind of deep conversations about your personal journeys.
And also, um, you know, you're just inspirational in the way that you're going about life and
the fact that you've done this for years in and out, it's, it's really interesting and, uh,
really inspiring for young builders, uh, like us.
Um, so how could we, as, uh, you know, your listeners today help you, uh, through your mission?
Is there any way that the community can contribute and help you guys out?
Is there anything that we can do right now?
Oh, um, this is really helping us.
We love your questions.
Thank you for asking such great questions, Kieran.
Um, and just helping us amplify our work, um, following us on Twitter or actually, um, maybe
with our work at the climate coordination network, um, maybe hosting some shill, shill, um, uh,
shill Twitter spaces.
I'm trying to think, is it X spaces?
I never know exactly what to call it.
Um, but maybe helping.
We stick with Twitter.
Okay.
We stick with Twitter.
Yeah, don't, don't give in.
Don't give in to that Elon man.
Don't give in.
It's Twitter forever.
Okay.
It's Twitter forever.
Thank you for answering that burning question.
Um, I need to know.
Um, so it's, you know, maybe consider hosting some shill spaces around, um, cause I want to
make sure they're, they're happening in different time zones, um, with people all over the world,
not just, you know, in the West or whatever.
So, um, that's one way that you can really help our, our efforts.
And, um, yeah, following the, the CCN Twitter is a really, we're trying to make sure we don't
lose people from the climate solutions round, um, when they're like going to look at like
what's happening now.
And they don't necessarily see a lot happening in that, um, arena on get coin.
So I just want to make sure, like try to make sure your network is familiar with what's going
on and knows that they can join us.
Um, it's at climate underscore program.
And, um, if you can amplify our work or give us suggestions, we're, we're, um, open hearted
and open eared and we really look forward to working with everyone and creating an even
better climate solutions round.
Yeah, just, um, I just brought the account actually into the space.
So you'll see the, the climate coordination network there, the little, little tree.
Um, so yeah, anybody in the space that hasn't followed us yet, definitely, uh, would love
a follow.
Another thing, just as I was, uh, with the, our friends at Giveth, uh, just before this, for
any of you that do participate in the, the Giveth ecosystem and have made donations, um,
obviously you can donate to us.
That's always helpful, but one thing they mentioned to me.
And so the, I think maybe the call to action to anybody that is, uh, doing some work in
Giveth that every time you donate, you get these, these give tokens.
So you get the give back.
And what they mentioned to me is we need to talk to as many of our friends that might have
some give tokens and ask them to come to our page.
And there's a button that says boost and you boost us, uh, by basically staking your
give tokens on the solar foundation.
And the biggest thing that does is it helps us to then raise up in the rankings of sort
of the page order.
So the page order on Giveth for their everyday donations is based on, on that.
So the more folks that can come and do that, the more it helps to amplify our message within
the, the Giveth ecosystem.
So that would maybe be something that there's probably some folks out there that might be able
to help with that too.
Um, otherwise, yeah, amplifying our, our work is, is always appreciated.
And, um, we will certainly try and do the same for, for all of you as much as we can.
Thank you for being such a lovely guest, John and Colleen.
Uh, before you both, uh, step away, uh, I have two guests from the audience who's come up
on the speaker slots, uh, uh, uh, I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing your name right, but if
you do have a question, uh, now is your time.
Uh, thank you very much.
Uh, yeah, actually they pronounced it very well.
Uh, surprisingly, uh, I'm Pius from, uh, Uganda, a founder of, uh, an organization that
looks at, uh, uh, uh, climate literacy in schools and, uh, yeah, we are with four schools and
we run a curriculum of an annual year.
So, uh, I would thank, I would like to thank John and, uh, Colleen.
I just love the organic rise of, uh, solar foundation and thanks to Colleen.
She's reachable and, uh, willing to help.
So, uh, I credit that to Sol, uh, the co-host who introduced me to her and, uh, maybe the
whole entire solar punk and Bitcoin community.
So I would like to ask, uh, where do we get more information about the project of, uh, yeah,
the SDG impact, uh, then also, uh, what are the plans of, uh, majorly the solar punk foundation,
uh, maybe for, for partnerships, uh, in this, like in future, in this, I would like to know
whether there's still more room for, for partnerships and, uh, maybe how can someone
really partner with solar foundation?
And then also, uh, you say that you, you, you, you, you welcome people on board to share
ideas and maybe improve, uh, improve, improve, uh, the, the, the, the fight or the
work towards, uh, better sustainable future.
So how can someone maybe fire in Africa this way join, uh, you in maybe that idea sharing
group and maybe community, uh, then also this is off topic.
Uh, I, I'm trying to, to, to, to set up a Bitcoin account because I really want to apply
for the, for the Bitcoin this time, but I'm stuck at the adding stamps part for days.
I've tried really hard with help of some people, majorly soul, but I'm really stuck there and,
uh, I would appreciate if someone is here and can help.
So, uh, then finally, I'll, I'll just call you all of you upon the project will be issue
a project, uh, it's, uh, it will focus on schools, uh, it will be a pilot project, but then it
will be looking at using the Web3 and solar bank ideologies, really empower teachers, schools
and students in the fight for a sustainable future.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Pais, for that question.
John, you can go ahead.
Yeah.
Thank, thank you so much for hopping up on the stage and, uh, definitely look forward to,
uh, to following your work a little more closely and learning more about what you've been doing
to try and answer a few of the questions.
Um, I think with relation to the solar foundation, uh, I know I just, uh, followed you back on
Twitter.
You're welcome to DM me at least to start, and we can start a conversation around, um,
what you're doing and how we might be able to, to collaborate.
Um, so I think that that's a great place to start.
Uh, then I, from there, I can drop you my email.
We can go to email or telegram or wherever, uh, is suitable and can bring Colleen into those
discussions as well.
Uh, as far as the climate coordination network, uh, I would say for now, following our Twitter
and just keeping an eye on the, the, the network, uh, let us get through GG19 here.
And so kind of through November, and then we're going to take a breath and, and start
to figure out who we really are.
And, um, so, uh, that, that work is yet to come to some extent, but we certainly will
be putting out, uh, information via Twitter anytime there's opportunities for, uh, people
to work with us.
Um, let's see.
Oh, and then your question about Gitcoin.
Definitely.
Also just feel free to DM me about the, the Gitcoin piece.
Uh, one thing to note is you don't actually need, uh, uh, a high passport score or actually
any passport score to submit a grant.
Uh, so just for getting your grant in, uh, you won't need to worry too much about the
passport though.
I I'm happy to help you, uh, with the passport and get that, uh, that score up.
Um, there's, you can certainly can maybe stake a little GTC on you or, or get you a little
to stake on yourself to help with some of that score.
So anyway, we can work through that.
No problem.
Uh, as far as the grant itself, if you go to builder.gitcoin.co, you can start to create
your grant there.
And then once you've created your grant, you go to grants.gitcoin.co and you can apply
to the, the round from there.
Uh, sounds like what you're doing would probably fit in with the climate round, but definitely
read through our eligibility and make sure what you're thinking is a good fit.
And then there's also the community and education round.
So it sounds like it, it's, it sounds like it's kind of in the middle.
It's a little bit of both of those.
So where, wherever you feel that it fits best, um, uh, go ahead and apply there.
And I think that was all the questions I was trying to track them all, but, uh, either
way, great to meet you and look forward to talking more and, and trying to support you
on your way and get coin and, and collaborate with you on these other projects.
Pius says that all.
Uh, I think you're satisfied with John's answer.
Thank you so much.
Uh, I have one more speaker here up on the panel.
Uh, uh, uh, again, um, I apologize if I'm pronouncing the name wrong.
Uh, Chimene, is that right?
Uh, yeah, sure.
It's, uh, Chimene.
Chimene.
Yeah.
So sorry.
Uh, go ahead.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much, uh, for the space.
I think, um, I'm sorry for joining the space a little bit later, but I think, um, I'm sorry for
joining the space a little bit later.
But I think, um, I was wondering myself if, uh, maybe this kind of project can be applied
in other countries.
And I think I got the answer for, um, from the face speaker, from the face.
So I don't know, um, the guy who, um, asked the question before me, I think I got it.
So thank you so much for all the response and, uh, it's okay.
I think the, the project do really speak to me.
Thank you so much for coming onto the stage and sharing your thoughts, uh, again, glad
that we could, uh, uh, help facilitate this kind of conversations to encourage, uh, um,
you know, people to chase their dreams and actually, uh, do the right thing.
And, uh, thanks again, uh, John and Colleen.
I know it spilled a couple of minutes past the hour, but, uh, uh, any closing notes, any
closing remarks that you would like to leave for, uh, your fellow changemakers or changemakers
who may listen to the space later in the future.
I would love to say thank you so much for having us.
Um, thank you for these great questions.
Thank you for the work you're doing.
You, Kieran, um, uh, Guido, Ertu, like everyone here, we appreciate you guys too.
We couldn't do it without what you're doing.
Um, and be sure to watch the CCN Twitter space because we are fast and furiously working on
more resources, um, that will be helpful for this round.
Um, hopefully they'll come out like by the beginning of next week.
We, Gitcoin still has some onboarding docs and things, but we're trying to get them updated
right away this week.
So watch for that.
Maybe that will help, um, people apply as well.
John, any closing remarks from your end?
You know, on my end, um, yeah.
A big thanks to you for having us, uh, to all those out there listening.
Um, I, uh, I see you out there, Brian, I feel like we've been crossing paths on some
spaces.
We got to get a call together one of these days soon, a little shout out to you specifically,
but, um, the, uh, yeah, I think I would leave it with just stay curious.
Um, you know, I think that that's one of the biggest guiding forces in my life is just
chasing my curiosity wherever it may go.
And so I, I encourage everybody to do that.
I think it keeps you young.
I think it opens new opportunities and I think it just makes for, uh, a rich and fulfilled
life.
So that would be my, my biggest clothing thoughts is, uh, just keep chasing that curiosity and,
uh, and see where it takes you.
Thank you so much.
Uh, uh, this is again, uh, the Atlantis Climate Radio.
We go live every Thursday, but during the Gitcoin round, we are planning, uh, on something special
for you all, but, uh, let's, uh, keep the surprises for another time.
Uh, but thanks again, John and Colleen.
Uh, thank you so much for joining on such short notice.
Uh, I know it was really, um, you know, fidgety from my side, just coordinating and getting
you both on board for today's call, but, uh, uh, thanks again for having the patience and
trusting, uh, in, uh, you know, our decision to bring you on as the guest speakers for this
week's, uh, climate radio.
And, uh, until we meet again, this is, uh, uh, Kiran from Atlantis.
Uh, we are signing off a good morning, good night, wherever you are, please, uh, do tune
into the Atlantis Climate Radio again next Thursday until then.
See you all.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Kiran.
Thank you everyone for joining us.
Bye-bye.
Appreciate you all.
