Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. music Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for patiently waiting while I'm playing that music.
So good morning, everybody. Good afternoon afternoon, good evening wherever you are.
Here in Asia, it's evening time. It's actually midnight. Yeah, it's good to see you everybody.
So yeah, hello and welcome to the episode 4 of Spaces Playbook. I'm your host Creon.
Today I'd say I'm going to be joined by Sir Choice and we got XCoast account joining us as well.
Not sure if Tori can speak.
Yeah, thank you for being here, XCoast.
And yeah, today we're talking about booking and managing speakers.
So last Monday on episode, yeah, on that episode last Monday was episode three.
We talked about effective
hosting skill set if i remember that correctly um we focused on moderation active listening
time management crisis handling and um inclusive inclusivity rather um and today uh let's learn
from the other hosts and guests on how they select, reach out, and manage speakers.
Yeah, with that said, I would like to warmly welcome and handshake virtually with my co-host,
although I'm going to be asking him a question as well. So, Sir Choice, how are you doing today?
Hey, Creon. I'm excited to be here with you and with the whole gang.
you and with the whole gang. I'm having a beautiful morning so far. It's just 11 a.m.
I'm having a beautiful morning so far. It's just 11 a.m.
Man, it's always a crazy ride on Web3, but here with you, excited to share this panel,
this space, and happy that you're adding value. And man, so much to say. For me, this is going
to be just a flowers giving space. So get it rolling, man. Throw the questions my way. But
yeah, thank you everybody
for joining and tuning in looking forward to having a blast yeah brother thank you for always
you know supporting me i'm so sorry i missed that space that you brought yesterday was your first
space on your um you know you know for x goes right and i missed that um due to um power
interruption as well um and then i missed i don don't know, X has been glitching my end.
I still not see all of my notifications, but I'll set that aside for now.
I'm not sure if X-host can speak, but yeah, hello to you.
I think I'm going to move on to, we also have Marcello joining us today behind the Soulbound account.
If I'm not mistaken, it's Marcello, one of the most legendary, legends one of the legendary spaces web3x spaces host that i know in the space um how are you
doing today marcello yeah doing amazing uh super happy to be here guys awesome to see uh sir choice
here as well he did a great space yesterday um yeah no super happy to be here representing soulbound and uh excited for the
topic bro awesome brother um yeah uh i'm so excited that you you know whenever you join this space
i'm nervous and at the same time excited but i'm not sure why i'm nervous because you know you're
one of those um people that i look up um and uh you've always been supportive since day one, probably,
that I've been running Spaces.
And also, one of the most supportive people
that I know is also joining us.
I think I've accepted the request,
but he is appearing as a listener.
So let me send you an invite again, Joel.
So let's move on to Shido.
We got Shido joining us today.
Shout out to Growthy for arranging Shido to join us.
Appreciate you being here, Shido.
I'm not sure who's behind the microphone, but it's Vlad.
But yeah, hello, Shido um hello shadow hey hey thank you it's required not right today thank you for having
us always a pleasure to to be on your platform always a pleasure to be on your spaces so i'm
a require from shido i also spaces on my side sometimes I just have Shido in the background and everything.
So yeah, glad to be here. Nice topic. I think it's important because spaces are becoming more and more
important in the crypto ecosystem in general. So yeah, good to be there.
Yeah, that's true. Almost every project, even founders are now you know showing up on spaces
and I'm really proud of those kind of founders that show up on spaces and
then and show up publicly love that I'm not sure if I'm ruggin or is it can you Can you guys see Dash or Joel on the stage now? Nah.
Maybe I should check my DM if he sent something.
I think he's trying to come up because I accepted his request earlier.
But yeah, let's move on to our next speaker on stage.
We have Lito joining us today as well.
I was not able to add you on the graphics, but I'm glad you're here.
And I'm excited for your space tomorrow.
It's tomorrow my time, but yeah, later.
Now, can you guys hear me by the
way real quick oh okay hang on leto uh yeah joel it was a rug awesome awesome well thank you brother
for being here um you know you again um joel has requested um i mean have has booked on all of my
space and i'm so grateful for that jo Joel. You're very supportive, brother.
And I'm thankful that you like this topic,
the series that I'm running with Xcohost.
So how are you doing today, brother?
I'm doing pretty well, just, you know, working hard.
Yesterday, there was a lot of productivity I did not get to because the air conditioner in
the office was broken and now i got that fixed today so now i'm able to be a human being again
and so now there will be a lot more work done today but yeah very happy to be here and by the
way joel down on the listeners i guess um and i run business development marketing for dash which
is digital cash the best crypto for that kind of stuff so happy to be here as always
yeah what do you mean you're not for that i've seen you on spaces all day yesterday
yeah that was only until let me actually look at the calendar that was only until it got hot
like that was until um 2 p.m my time and it was i don't remember i don't exactly know the
the proper um celsius conversion but that was like close to 80 fahrenheit so like
you know high 30s i guess somewhere in the 30s so it was not good in my office and then now it's
fine yeah yeah uh well well um well i'm so glad that you you
because i saw you uh doing a lot of you know spaces um at least until after now which i was
tuning in in some of those spaces um even though i cannot really relate with some of the topics but
um kind of like trying to i'm trying to absorb absorb some of the things I've heard there.
And, yeah, let's move on to Lito.
Then we'll kick it off to our discussion.
Lito, how are you doing this noon?
I know you're here in the U.S., right?
12 a.m. you're doing the space?
And the fact that you're waking up at 7 a.m you're doing the space that's some dedication and the
fact that you're waking up at 7 a.m or you're i'm hoping like waking up 30 minutes before 7 a.m to
join me that's that's pretty that's pretty dope so i i greatly appreciate that effort that you're
putting in there i'm looking forward to talking about uh magic speakers and uh strats behind that
where's the alpha at so yeah let's let's do it yeah i thought of this one
you know as part of this series because um we have different stuff maybe different techniques or um
you know maybe we can learn from each other how we do it uh how to do it more you know hassle-free
because especially me i'm really shy dming people you know that's why i'm so thankful that x code
has been created, because I can just list my space there
and then someone will request.
I even forgot that there's an invite feature now.
So I've not been inviting anybody because I forgot that
since I stopped running spaces and I noticed yesterday,
I can actually invite through Xcode's platform.
But yeah, thank you guys for actually invite through Xgo's platform, and that's great. But yeah, thank you guys for actually booking through Xgo's and through our friends who have DM'd me from Growthy.
Then they referred Shido or something like that.
So I'm grateful for those kind of initiative.
But yeah, moving on to the topic.
I also want to give a shout out to the CJF friends led by Tyrus.
I'm seeing you down there.
And the Shido army, I'd say.
So, yeah, going to the topic, booking and managing speakers.
I'd like to know, guys, how do you actually you know just the basic question how do
you invite your guests um you know especially if you're not on x goes um how do you do it um
your way because we definitely have different ways um some people have like uh like kind of
like a dm group or some just DM them, maybe cold DMing.
But I'm seeing Mark Shallow's hand up already.
Yeah, so everybody here should be using Xcohost.
And I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
If you're not, like Xcohost is such a great tool.
If you're not using Xcohost,
as I think a lot of people still book speakers themselves.
And that's what I used to do before Xcohost.
I would just book all my spaces manually.
Yeah, create a hit list, right?
So create a list of 100 people that you'd want to have on your spaces.
I'm saying 100 if you want to have like a regular show.
I'm a little OCD with it. So I try to plan weeks ahead.
But yeah, create a hit list,
even like a dozen people reach out to them
and literally just invite them on a show.
It's literally that simple.
A good hit list or a good way to kind of measure
who might be interested already
is I try to look at other spaces
that already have speakers on
and the likelihood of them replying
and wanting to join your show is a lot higher because they've done spaces before.
Sometimes you invite people and they're like, they have no idea what to expect and you've got to like hold their hand and that's fine too.
But yeah, some people that have already done tons of spaces, I'm sure if you DM SirChoice, Lito or some of the people on this panel right now, Joel, myself, especially like I'll be down. Like I'm always down as long as I feel like, you know, everybody gets value from it.
So, yeah, I think it's really that simple.
Create a list of a bunch of people that dozens of people that you'd want to work with.
I say 100 because a lot of people might say no, and that's fine, too.
And yeah, just start from there and then just just slide into people's
dms and uh what's really beautiful is um at least the way i look at it especially when it comes to
working with people whether you're doing business development or partnerships or you just want to
get to know people and connect um yeah i think inviting them on a space is probably one of the
best icebreakers ever because instead of like cold DMing people for business, most people will not reply or are just like not interested.
But it's like, hey, do you want to talk about yourself and this project that you're working on? Come on my show.
And it's like, yeah, for sure. And then you bring them on, you warm them up.
And then suddenly, you know, if you do ask, you know, you go in for the cold pitch after all that,
it doesn't always go through. But oftentimes, just because you've warmed them up, it works
really well. So yeah, that's how I kind of think of it. Anybody that you want to work with,
invite them on a show. Anybody you want to connect with, you see a content creator or a founder
that you're like, yo, I'd love to pick this person's brain. Well, Twitter spaces are great
for that. Bring them on your show. So yeah, that's what I think this person's brain. Well, Twitter spaces are great for that.
So yeah, that's what I think.
Just a quick follow-up question on that.
Do you have any qualities you're looking for that you're considering before you invite somebody?
I think I guess I kind of do it subconsciously
because I don't really...
But yeah, I try to look for people that I think would just bring value, right?
If they're a founder and they're building a project that I love or I really am interested
in, then, uh, by all means, I'll invite them on.
If I think it's a content creator that I think I resonate with and yeah, I definitely bring
them on as well as, uh, I try to look for other people that would vouch them, right?
How many mutual people are following them?
Have they been on any of my friends or people that I know of,
acquaintances, spaces before?
So I guess I'll try to vet their Twitter page.
But yeah, I guess oftentimes I'm already just looking for people that are,
I think that would just bring value, you know?
And I think, you know, follower count, all that stuff, I i think we've come to a point we realize it doesn't mean anything i'll
invite people that have 200 followers but you know they might be the the founder of a huge project
or they might have actually worked in the gaming industry for the last 40 years or 20 years or
whatever and it's like well okay this person would bring a lot of value to this web3 gaming panel
even though they don't have a lot of followers so yeah i think i think the simplest way to kind
of break it down is like does this bring does this person bring any value to the panel if they don't
uh and they're just there to shill and take up space and you know or a farm uh then yeah no sorry
i don't i think i could book someone else that would bring everyone else value on the panel and in the audience.
So yeah, I think are they bringing value? And if they are, if they aren't, then I try to assess that.
Love that. That's very straightforward. Actually, I kind of do the same. That's also like the standard, kind of like a standard.
like the standard, kind of like a standard.
But at the same time, I always think of myself as a student.
Even me, I speak on spaces and I always don't bring, you know,
information that can bring value.
But sometimes I bring questions that can lead to a conversation
that actually brings value to the table.
That's why I also encourage, you know, some audiences sometimes to come up
and speak and try to speak. table that's why I also encourage the you know some some audiences sometimes to come up um and
and speak and try to speak and maybe they have something to say that's valuable you know um and
it's also good for engagement but yeah uh I'm seeing Shaito's hand up and thank you for patiently
waiting there um Shaito I missed your name earlier brother um if you could state your name again and
go for it for your um thoughts yeah thank you it it's requite you can call me ray it's
you the honest way um so so yeah i i wanted to go on the other side of what marcelo was saying
pretty much because uh we are a crypto project we are register business and everything so when we
organize spaces on the shadow platform we need to be super careful about who we associate with most of the time.
So like you said, we are using Growthy, we have a partnership with them and they are doing an excellent job
at bringing serious people most of the time to talk on spaces. Of course, it doesn't engage anything or anything like that. But it's more like a safety net in a way to have professionals that are especially good
at their job to help you in this endeavor to find actual people to join your spaces
But you can go also further because as a crypto project, you will have partners and people
that you know in your network and everything.
And those people usually you can just contact them and talk to them and just say hey we have the space
coming would you want to join or so sometimes you have an event with them and you will invite
them and they will invite you on their platform also and everything and also jumping on spaces
like like today where you meet sometimes new people, sometimes familiar
faces and everything. And you start to know each other by talking to each other pretty
much. Even if you don't know each other like that in real life or anything. And so people
will drop your photo or you will start to follow people and not on your project icon,
but on your personal icons and everything. Then you can network
like that in the background. So it's a lot of networking, especially in crypto, because
when it comes to projects, people want to shield most of the time. And so a lot of big platforms
monetize their spaces. And so it can be a bit of a struggle to to navigate all of that because sometimes they
say oh we will invite you on the space you just have to pay that and you're like why would we
pay to give you free promotion on your space it doesn't make sense but so yeah but i see a new
trend that is coming where people especially project funders and the project coming in and saying, oh, yeah, we want to interact with people in spaces.
It's like this new transparency thing.
And I think it will grow.
It will continue to grow because it's good.
And people in crypto usually like that.
Awesome. Thank you. Thank usually like that. So, yeah. Awesome. Thank you.
Yeah, not every business have that ability. I mean, not everyone has some kind of like a manager
for this kind of task, right?
But yeah, definitely Shado is a business
and they're pretty much busy with with um
with what they're cooking so um some of them has manager for that you know um they hire um whether
it's from an agency or maybe they have an internal team um like warp has not it not is part of the
internal team they're really doing great when it comes to like managing their speakers and
reaching out and preparing all of the things that,
so that everyone is well prepared for the conversation.
Let me pass it over to Dash.
For recruiting for spaces,
I think the first thing you should think about is what are you trying to achieve with the space? Like, what is it that what kind of space is a conversational thing, then you'd want people who have the best possible contributions to that
conversation. You'd want them to be kind of there. And especially on the second thought, right? So
first of all, you want to think, why does this space exist? What are your goals with the space?
of space exist? What are your goals with the space? And invite people towards that. On the
other side, you want to think, why would anyone want to speak on the space? And you want to pay
them in that, I guess. Now, it doesn't mean monetary compensation necessarily, although I'm
sure you could pay people to be on. But you'd think, okay, this is what I want out of people.
on, but you'd think, okay, this is what I want out of people. What can I give them in exchange for
that? Like a lot of times you'd want someone who you'd want to recruit someone who says like,
okay. So for example, tomorrow, I mean, actually here, I'm going to, I'm going to interrupt this
kind of to shill a little bit. Um, tomorrow doing a space, almost 24 hours from there.
I'm just going to put it up there.
it's just a weekly space we've been doing.
why aren't you living on crypto yet?
And so obviously I'd want people
who know something about crypto payments
one person we invited is a CEO
solutions and things like that he's also very smart dude who's very great conversation on this
so i definitely want his input but so what he gets to do is he gets to come on and without being like
a shell talk organically about what he does and what his business does and um so therefore you could
just say like oh one of the biggest problems is people can't pay their everyday utility bills and
things like that with crypto which is why we have recently launched bill pay in like all these
different countries some extra to come because we're trying to solve that problem and you can
just slip that in without being a shell.
And a fun fact about this person in particular,
I'm thinking of, I was on a space,
one of these random ex-cohosts space actually.
And I heard him as a fellow speaker
talking about crypto bill pay and things like that.
And I was just like, dude, we need to talk offline.
And so as soon as we did that,
now they have since integrated Dash for all their payments
and we're launching some ad campaigns,
promoting their service and everything.
So it came first off, thanks Xcohost,
because it was great to meet from there.
But yeah, it just, the networking level,
like networking with people and promoting organically what you do, not saying, hey, buy my thing or pay me my company, but just being able to talk organ, having an excuse to just talk about what works with what you do is good too.
But in my opinion, sometimes the biggest reason you can get someone to speak on your space is because they want to
and have a good time if you have a good fun space people will want to speak on it and they'll
they'll compete over speaking on it and I have to say we did achieve that with this space
for a couple of people the Rock Zacharias the CEO of Lunar Digital Assets who also runs a few of people, the Rock Zacharias, the CEO of Lunar Digital Assets, who also runs a few of
his own spaces and things, he says he's always going to be there like every week because he's
like, it's my favorite space. I just will never miss it. And so he's always there for like three
hours or something, missing some work calls sometimes to be honest, like, oh, I got to jump
off. They're yelling at me. Okay. So at that point, and it's not because, oh, he gets to shill the projects
that they incubate or do work for.
It's just that he enjoys being on, and it's like a good meeting of the minds
So that's just kind of what I would say.
So what I'm getting here from what you're saying is it's important to, um, to prioritize relevance
of, of the speaker to the topic, you know, um, rather than, um, and also I'm getting
this from Marcia was read as well, you know, rather than just, just, um, aiming for the
numbers, but they're not really, um, knowledgeable about the subject or about the topic, then
it's not, it shouldn't be them,
you know, that's what I'm trying to get in gear. Yeah. Let me hear it from Lito if that's the same
for you. Well, I wanted to hit this from the angle of how I felt when I first started like
doing broadcasts or spaces, you,
if you're going to be cold messaging people or like just messaging,
like people who you think are friends or your friends to come on and speak in
spaces, you're going to have to be okay with being told no or ignored.
it's just like a part of life and it,
you can't take it personally.
Some people just might be busy or um they just
don't know you well enough yet to like do like be in a speaking arrangement with you you know
they don't know if it's going to be healthy for their brand so um if you're really trying to start
this of course exco host is a great thing to use great platform to get speakers, but why not just, you know, start visiting other people's
spaces, uh, asking up to be a speaker, um, letting people see your name and see that,
give you a chance to see, okay, this person has nice things to say, or they're just not crazy,
or like they're actually trying to provide value or be a positive influence in the space.
So once you bring that social proof uh you'll find that
more people are going to be comfortable that when you like message them cold message like okay like
this is a someone who i'm fine with having on being on their space uh they're they're someone
who i don't mind uh you know having my brand in the same space as theirs so um you just have to
be okay with being told no.
And that goes for so many areas in life.
And just don't take it personally.
And of course, like everyone said,
If you need speakers, great platform to use.
Well, I'd like to hear from Straight Choice.
You've been quiet for a while, brother.
Because you're also hosting, right right especially for the old school club um how do you invite them
and and what are your um i don't know if they have like preferences when you're inviting guests
um how do you do it for sure brother i it's hard to to cover something when everything's been
covered so i don't want to be that person that repeats what others said. Like, I mean, it was Marcello who onboarded me on Xcohost.
Not just Xcohost who told me to jump into spaces
and gave me the first opportunities
to speak on several places.
I think that the only way to really improve that network
You continue hosting spaces
and that's what's going to open up our doors.
And the more value you deliver the
more opportunities you get and it's once you establish that personal presence that brand
where you're going to even start receiving dms of people inviting you over rather than you inviting
them over because they want to have you in their show so the way we do it is most of the times we
try to attract but it goes just made the things so simple because people just need to,
If you're going to host, just put your space up there.
All of that work, you have people requesting,
which is amazing because really making things easy.
We've seen this family, this cohort,
it's been running for months where we support each other.
We acknowledge what everybody's doing.
We're all in the grind, but we have so much value to deliver.
As we continue to show up, we keep polishing our skills.
For gaming in Espanol, we usually bring Spanish speakers, which is kind of a challenge even with exposed, because majority of the Web3 audience is, you know, English speakers.
So we created a group pretty much like WarpDeed
where we started looking for all of the Spanish speakers in Web3
and then just adding them, letting them know,
hey guys, our space runs every Wednesday at 5 p.m.
EST, if you guys are up to eat, show up.
And what we do in those specific spaces
that we pretty much open the door to anyone who's been in the industry for long and we know it's a
legit person. So they have their spot in there. As for the rest of the waste man is the reach out,
is the presence, is being, you know, keeping the network alive and following up on
people from time to time, just showing support. You're going to have your back. When you help
people, they're going to help you too. And that's the way we grow. Again, everything else was just
said, like the DMs, the groups, the networking groups that are different groups that are
the groups, the networking groups that are different,
groups that are always pulling up, you know,
space opportunities where you can just chat with the person directly on
Telegram and be like, hey, yeah, I'd like to jump into your space.
And then they will check you out and be like, yeah, for sure. Come up.
So it's just, it's a networking thing. It's social skills.
It's staying in touch with people and understanding that, yes, we see brands,
always a human being behind the account so you just have to reach out and talk so it's not that hard
um you also want to make sure that you will bring people that that is ready to be so of course we
always want to look for some you know track record or make sure that this person
that we're bringing on the panel has participated in spaces.
But we can get surprises.
So I don't close the doors to anybody.
Like we've seen times where people kind of get stuck
and it's having a hard time
or they don't really interact or engage
or they're just talking nonsense.
And it's a little frustrating,
but sometimes we do get gems
and people that comes for the first time and actually it's got so much value to deliver so i think that we still gotta
give opportunities to people uh one example was the bros show that i already miss every week
but yes man anybody could come and be a bro and just talk and chat about life and what they're
up to and that's bonding and that's building relationships. And that's what
in the long term is what matters the most to me. Like projects and brands come and go,
but friendships, they stay for long term. So even if you're not working with the same project
anymore, if you don't represent the same project anymore, your cohort of friends, they're going to
have your back and they're going to show up. That's the people that you need to nurture and support and celebrate their wins because they're going to celebrate yours and they're going to help you move forward, man.
So I remember the quote that says, your network is your net worth, something like that.
worth something like that um so in a space i i just realized that you know i i really
i mean it's not that i mean it's it's hard to invite guests but now uh with with how i built
my network it's actually easy because um people with even without inviting anybody you know at least two three people would would show up
would um request or would would um probably like volunteer to speak you know um and if you're seen
um being connected to you know people that are great speakers reputable people in the space
you would probably be seen as high-value personality
or someone who has something to say on spaces.
And I think that is working.
Even though I did not notice it right away,
I think that's kind of like the effect of having a good network.
And I'm so happy that I met you guys.
Most of you guys have met through X-Coast.
I don't really, not just to say a lot of good things about X-Coast,
but that's what really happened that I met most of you there.
Even Joel, I met him through X-Coast.
And I think highly of this, man.
And I never thought that I'll be actually uh be on spaces constantly with
with joel even though i've never been on his space on his spaces which is kind of like a high profile
space for me because they talk a lot of good stuff there that i might not be able to like
add value to um yeah um but i've been to uh also i don't do it just through xcos i i also do my own
um like way like i reach out to people you know um that's why it's good to speak on spaces even
though even for those to those um spaces that are not listed on on xcos like i spoke on shido spaces
because i've been invited by growthy and that's how we got connected um but although i have not
been there for uh almost two months now since i i took a break and then um but now i'm probably
going to be there um you know um when i can um so yeah that's really good and also lito mentioned
something earlier um that's very
important so it's not always 100 guaranteed that you will get the speakers that you want you know
so don't take it personally if they cannot because you know that rejection is just because they're
they have their they have to to to make sure that it fits within their schedule of their branding.
And, you know, some people has, you know, other, you know, standards,
which is, it's their preference that we need to respect as well.
If they don't want you, then take it personally.
It doesn't mean that they do not like you or anything. It's just that maybe we're not,
maybe we're not, we don't fit in that kind of conversation or something like that.
we don't fit in that kind of conversation or something like that.
Or maybe we don't have the, the, uh, the network, the relationship that we need to
kind of form first or at least, um, initiate. Maybe, I don't know, maybe you have to do something
for them, you know? Um, and I'm glad that I've been connected to a lot of people, like even,
even Taris before, I don't know Taris and I really like this guy and then um we met on a space of a friend of a mutual friend and that's how we
learned that we kind of like um even though we have a lot of um you know we believe in other
different things but we all we're also common in a lot of things so um that's why i like him
talking on my spaces but i'm not inviting him right now because
i'm pretty sure he's busy i'm not sure if you're in this car but feel free to to come up here if
you have something to say anyway guys um some um some some of you probably are in on gc's talking
to your um guests if you have invited that is something that i don't do because it might be annoying to be on
so many dm groups um but i'd like to know your thoughts on that is because i'm just maybe i'm
just shy um or maybe it's a skill issue um so yeah do you guys do dm groups um to prepare your um
just a quick question to say yes or no maybe um just a few lines there do you guys do DM groups to prepare your just a quick question to say yes or no?
Maybe just a few lines there.
Dash, Joel, do you do that?
Almost typically, I just think who would be a good idea for this.
And then I go message them.
Sometimes there have been some cases
where i haven't been super prepared or i've been struggling to find you know enough people to speak
and then there is some like crypto influencer uh group and telegram that i'm in and i just drop in
there and say hey do anyone want to speak on this in like you know a few hours here and then you
will get some people to come and show up and sometimes yeah but usually i don't i hate xdms i hate the groups it just gets so crowded and
get all these notifications and just like no yeah that's true it can be annoying for them
because those people are busy and they don't have time to to check all of all of those dm groups
so i even me um i mean I appreciate that some people add me
to the DM groups and I never leave there,
but I really, you know, I'm sorry,
I'm not able to like read all those DM groups.
So yeah, I think we'll move on to another one.
So managing speakers during the show, know the live show um we kind
of talk about there about this already in the previous sessions but i want to hear from from
shido uh maybe um um sold down or marchello how do you guys uh manage speakers who are over, you know, talking for too long, over talking without, you know, being, you know, being mean to them?
You know, something like that in a positive way.
Maybe, maybe let's start with Shido.
So I won't talk in the shade of place, pretty much.
But when I do spaces myself, when I own spaces myself,
usually you would like to know your guests in advance.
So you pretty much know the way they operate.
But if you don't know them, just find a way to jump in
There will always be at some point, they will say something, take a breath, or something like that, and to jump in when they say something. There will always be at some point
they will say something, take a breath or something like that and just jump in. Don't be afraid to...
You don't have to cut them to say oh you spoke enough or something like that. No, no, just jump
in and go up to another subject or make them know that you will will ask another person or something like that without really telling them.
It's like it's just a social skill, a talking skill, just like in real life.
You have people that like to talk a lot. I like to talk.
So you have people that t-app a lot.
But it's normal. It's normal. It's not an issue.
People won't get offended if you simply jump on
what they say, then if they get offended, I mean, it's their problem at the end, so yeah.
Yeah, thank you. I think it's better to interrupt that one person and
to interrupt that one person and be polite, you know, saying it politely, then to kind
of like annoy the rest of the speakers and listeners because somebody is speaking for
So I think, yeah, that is also something I need to work on, actually.
But like I told you guys, I'm also learning through these spaces.
So thank you for your input.
So another thing, maybe I'll ask Marcello,
especially Marcello, he has this energy.
So when it comes to energy, brother,
how do you keep the energy flowing and avoid awkward silences or topic drifts because you're like a like an artist
when it comes when it comes to that thanks bro um i don't know i try to keep the energy and the mood
light i'll crack some jokes i'll um you know i think i'll reference certain things that some of
the speakers might say just to show that you know things are on on on topic or like keeping the energy flowing.
And I think just moving around the room. Yeah, I think it's just all about the vibe, right?
Just making everybody feel welcome. If I do feel like there is tension for whatever reason, whether somebody's talking too much or whatever, I'll try to change, you you know change the attention to something else or
yeah i don't know i i guess it's just a part of my personality i think i've also just gone
very comfortable on spaces i think that helps too i think the more you do them the more uh natural
it becomes and then yeah i don't really have to think about a lot of it i just i just kind of i
just try to be myself and uh i think also i mean it
goes back to the previous thing like bringing on speakers it can happen sometimes but i can be
pretty selective of who i bring on stage and sometimes the people i bring on are people that
i know also have good energy right so uh the room that you're in has a huge impact and the people
you bring into the room uh impacts the room
so sometimes i'll just try to be pretty mindful of who i'm letting in i know they're a good vibe
and i think as long as um you know we're all channeling that good energy uh it you know it
comes out as a good as a good vibe and yeah i don't think um i try not to take them too seriously
either i think uh life's too serious sometimes,
and you just want to have some fun.
So, yeah, I think I just roll with that energy,
and then I think the rest kind of plays itself out.
I realize that energy is really something.
It can really affect you.
So, for example, when I'm with Taris on a space specialty um there was another host um
energetic host i can be uh i don't know goofy as well um because taris has a very funny laugh
i mean not funny i mean it is a good laugh but he he loves he has an iconic laugh. And we throw jokes and things like that.
I'm usually getting out of character because of that energy.
It's why I like energetic people sometimes because that is something that I don't have.
But they kind of influence me.
it kind of influenced me.
So that's really something
that is kind of like underrated
because not a lot of people
are trying to like consider that.
So thanks for reminding me of that, Marcello.
Hold on, let me just accept Taris.
He's requesting to be up here.
Okay, so I'll just let Taris speak and then we'll go to the wild.
I have a last question here because we were 15 minutes before the top of the hour. So Tyrese,
welcome to the stage brother. How are you? And what are your thoughts so far?
I'm doing all right, bro. Yeah. I think bringing people up that you vibe with is definitely a great thing.
And we've always had some fun when we've been up on stages,
especially with some of the wild spaces that we've been on.
Coming out of your comfort zone has been interesting.
Yeah, yeah. anyway yeah yeah yeah and and i realized that if i am on a space with with joel i i will probably
try to be at my best like try to be professional and sounding like very knowledgeable because i
need to like level or match that energy that he asked with shido as well i need to be a little
bit geeky because a lot of people at shadow are like geeks um they're
talking about blockchains you know some of them um just ask questions as well like me whenever i
join there i because i learn um when we talk about um you know rwas maybe um infrastructures um so
yeah i'm i'm more of the i'm more of a like an obedient student when I'm at Chido
and I at so bad I mean at Marcello's base it's always game time so it's just
chill space and cool vibe so guys I'm down to the last question um what are your thoughts let's talk about amas because there are
different types of um x spaces right um i'm curious about ama because most of us probably have done
ama spaces right um what are your thoughts on web3 um project founders um that are only answering pre-selected questions by the community when doing an image
session? Anybody can answer. Okay. So choices.
I'm going to jump in. Yes. 100%. Man, I think that it's important to respond to the questions
of your community, but you cannot just be picking them and be prepared.
You've got to let them questions ring. You have to be ready for it. If you're really standing
through to your mission and your mission, you should not be just picking the ones that are
convenient to you, the ones that you feel comfortable answering to. I think that you
need to be prepared for it all if you truly want to show transparency
which is so relevant and important in our space. So if you're a founder be ready for whatever's
to come you gotta be ready for it you're the one who has to push that vision forward
so expect it all and be ready for it. If you are not I'm sorry but I don't know what you're
doing it's not gonna give you any good vibes so it's a big thumbs down for whoever the founder is just trying to answer what they
want to answer and not letting everyone just do questions at the end.
Regardless of how uncomfortable it might be, it's what's going to build your reputation
and the trust with your community.
And not just founders, you know, team members.
that are representing the project, right?
I'm not really good at playing devil's advocate.
So I'm going to let Shido speak because he's raising his hand.
Yeah, from experience, I can say for Shido, for Shido,
it's not the questions that are an issue most of the time,
because we like transparency.
We always been like that.
And Bjorn, our CEO, is pretty much always transparent
But it's more about the technical difficulties
that comes up with AMAs, especially if you do an open mic.
It's more that people can come up with a really terrible mic and you don't understand anything.
People come up with an agenda sometimes trying to not have a discussion or an answer. They're
just trying to provoke. I mean, some people come up with terrible insults instantly stuff like
that and you also have people that don't even speak english that come up and just come up to
come up you have people that likes to talk just to talk it happens a lot uh it's it's part of the
crypto industry if you want see it's part of it. So you can welcome questions. Personally, I do open mics and stuff like that.
But when it comes to a project founder, they don't always have the time to stay on an AMA to actually handle something that is not productive at the end. So yeah, you want people to come up with valuable questions.
You want people to actually provide some reasonable doubts
when they come up and start to bring a difficult topic
I know people have this mentality where you want full transparency
no matter what, so you want to have the FUD
and everything. But sometimes it doesn't bring anything, it's just an annoyance. And I mean,
the project founder, like, they have so many things to handle in the background. When they
take that time of the day, you don't want to waste their time. That's just my personal
opinion, but this is how i say it pretty much so yeah
yeah that's that's very fair point um because some you know some community members or some um
just random people would throw questions or or maybe just flood the entire space you know um
and it can be out of control right that's That's why I kind of understand the teams,
you know, where they're coming from, you know,
because it can be, there's a risk in doing,
you know, just doing an open mic.
But how do we kind of like improve that?
Because there's also like a sense of,
I mean, a feeling that it's
not very transparent when when we're only selecting questions um to be answered you know
especially if it's coming from the community um they they sometimes they want answers and and i
know that some of the projects are i mean have um kind of like the campaign that, okay, I mean, for the community members or the ambassadors or maybe just anybody doing something like a campaign in their, what do you call this, in their Discord or their Telegram that you have to be on that space and ask questions and you get something, you kind of like giveaway i've seen some of those um and
how do we because because sometimes i mean i've seen some amas that that are doing hybrid as well
so they're they're pre-selected questions but they also um let some community members ask questions
and i kind of like like it as well but yeah i'll with your follow-up to that, Shaito, then we'll probably ask some other people who have not
SHIAIDO CHIEDO- Yeah, so sorry about that.
Just coming from experience when I was,
it's totally personal, but I was helping
on some streaming platform on Twitch and stuff like that.
And when you were bringing up people live,
most of the time, you had a Discord server on the the side and you were pre-reviewing the guest to make sure that their mic was
good and stuff like that. You weren't pre-reviewing the question and stuff like that, but just
the quality of the guest to make sure that they speak English and the question are okay.
Not the question, sorry, the mic, okay, and stuff like that.
On spaces, it's pretty different
because you cannot do that this way.
So I would say best would be to have a co-host
that can actually jump in and cut the person
to actually help you handle the space properly
because sometimes it can be a hassle
or it can be difficult for people to understand
that. So if you have a great co-host, yeah, it's a solution to that, actually, in my opinion.
Thank you, Shailo. Joel, kind of related to what I just asked, How do you balance, you know, being neutral? I don't know,
because you've done AMA as well, right? You know, being neutral and also being
kind of like, not in a nosy way, but you have probably have your, do you ask your personal
questions and not the ones that are pre-selected?
Because sometimes listeners would love to hear your questions,
especially if it brings out transparency,
some sense of transparency for the community, for the listeners.
Do you have something like, what's your approach on that?
I missed that first part of that.
I didn't realize this was addressed to me.
some of the questionnaires of hosts are already pre-selected by the team or the
founders, but as a host who has a branding and maintaining some kind of credibility and reputation. How do you balance being neutral and at the same time trying to
adhere to what the clients need while also satisfying the audiences? Because if you have
personal questions, not pre-selected ones, you know, any questions, do you ask questions that, that can
bring out sense of transparency and trust for the community or the listener?
Yeah. So just generally speaking, I try to make sure that, uh, people's, um, questions are generally answered on that,
which means, first of all,
if there are questions ahead of time,
meaning let's just say we launch a new,
get an example from yesterday.
We did an AMA with Leo Dex,
which is a Dex front end for the Maya protocol and a whole bunch of other cross-chain kind of things.
And we didn't really have a lot of community questions for that one.
So if we had, it would have been, all right, let's queue up some of the biggest ones.
If there's a ton of questions, I would have sort of tried to combine some and sort of group them.
I would have sort of tried to combine some and sort of group them.
So if there's like 28 questions, I try to turn it into like eight or 10 and just, just
take the, condense the ones into that are kind of have overlap.
If we don't have any community questions, probably what I tend to do is think about
what are the key things that someone would want to know about this and ask the
questions that tease out those answers.
So it's like, what is this thing?
What are the main things that we have to look out for?
Like what are maybe challenges?
I just have to think about what I want them to say about all that.
And then ask the questions that just lead them to give the answers
that i'd want and there's always a little bit of like personal um discretion i should say because
obviously i'm in this space because i care about the space and i have my own interests it's rare
that i do like some kind of a AMA
or anything like that with someone who I just don't care.
I don't know why they're here.
Like it's almost never that.
So usually I do have some of my own personal questions
and I don't just work as like a promoter
or a business person or whatever.
I also work as like an end user of everything
kind of thing and so um basically sometimes i'm like hey i actually want to know these things so
i'm going to ask on behalf of the community um but yeah that's basically it um and i do have to
to jump off here at a i have another uh i have an actual interview to do in like a couple minutes i
gotta fix my hair um and get to that.
So thanks very much, Creon, for having me on as usual.
I'm always happy to share, always happy to be on these things.
And yeah, thanks for being such a consistent host.
I appreciate the flowers.
And that is a great take as well.
And thank you for sharing that.
And good luck on that interview.
I don't know who you're interviewing.
Oh, you're being interviewed.
It's something for Boston Blockchain Week, which, by the way, if anyone is in the greater Boston area, I think it's September 9th through 13th in Quincy, Massachusetts, is Boston Blockchain Week.
So, yeah. If you could come to that, I see you awesome awesome all right guys i think um we're
gonna um pass around the mic uh for those who want to plug something you know if you have something
going on this um this week or next week you can actually pin something on on the jumbotron um if
you have spoken on the space.
Yeah, just share it with us. I'll start with
Sir Choice. Sir Choice, what's going on
this week, the rest of the week?
Oh my man, there's plenty going
First of all, I invite all of you to
You can witness Uncle Funk
almost 28 hours a day. 24, like for real.
Like these guys are nonstop and the game is cooking really good. We launched the funquets.
They are live on Magic Eden. They are killing it just like the funies did and we're rewarding all of the community members who
have assets from the ecosystem they're going to have a big chunk of the airdrop from the
city that will talk and that will be launching soon lots of reasons to be a run over community
but the biggest one for me is they're becoming part of a project that is here to change lives
and that has real impact with the NGO.
That is putting foot on the tables that need it the most and keeping every little girl safe. So
if you guys have a good heart and want to share it with the world and want to be part of something
bigger than you all are, you're all invited to join the community. I'll receive you with a big heart.
Appreciate you, Creon. It's always an amazing space With you and the gang, have a wonderful
Rest of the week and the day, stay safe guys
I'm pretty sure I'm in both
But I've not been very active yet
So I'm going to find that time
To hang out on all of your
Because I'm hanging out at CJN
Big NN Probably probably yours i don't
have a lot of time to stay on so many discord servers i'm trying to pick the ones that i can
be active on um anyways guys uh let's move on um let's hear it from uh i know you guys are pretty
busy uh marcello go for it brother if you have something going on um for the rest of the week
yeah man uh we do have our own or what are we today wednesday all right tomorrow's thursday
so we do have our next space tomorrow uh thursday at 9 a.m est i'm pretty sure it's fully
books out uh i'll have to check the ex-cohost uh panel thing but yeah no i'm super happy to be here guys
if you want to stream for free on soulbound you can get registered now at soulbound.tv
and uh yeah we're doing our stuff here super happy to be here and awesome awesome space uh
kriana and sir choice loved it thank you uh michelle always a pleasure to have you on the stage
um appreciate that guys make sure to follow all our speakers.
Searchers, we got Shido, we got Lido, we got
Joel behind the Dash account,
and everybody else. And let me
pass it over to Shido. Do you have anything
else going on this week rather or next week maybe?
Yeah, I mean we have always been going on constantly building no matter what. So I mean
we have our weekly Shido space with Beyond on Friday so look for that And right now we are working on our big DEX upgrade,
our new UI and full gamification of the DEX.
So look forward for updates on that.
A lot of things happened in the past few weeks,
a few months with our getaway that we released and everything.
So yeah, a lot of native utilities as usual.
And yeah, thank you for having us, Creon.
I know Vlad loves your spaces most of the time.
So yeah, maybe next time it will be him.
He's busy in real life, like a lot.
But yeah, thank you for having us.
Always a pleasure to have you.
And I'll try to join your spaces as well.
I'll check on Growthy about that.
And yeah, let me pass it over to Lido, brother.
And yeah, we're going to be doing Wheel of X. Also, I'm excited. I'm so excited for that. Yes, sir.
And yeah, we're gonna be doing Wheel of X.
Also, I'm excited a little bit of a plug for Senor Choice.
My man has a Spanish space today for Web3 in Spanish.
I would say I'm super excited to be part of the Latin American Web3 community.
I need to brush up on my Spanish, so I'm looking forward to being there.
So yeah, great space, Creon.
Everyone have a great day.
Thank you. Thank you, brother.
I'm excited for you guys as well.
And yeah, congratulations. everyone have a great day thank you thank you brother i'm excited for you guys as well and yeah congratulations um search i i think i happen to congratulate you on being part of the osb
um officially so congratulations on that and also all these shows that you're doing uh try to be
present as much as i can brother um trying to follow all of your notifications from now on
and yeah uh shout out to Chai Boss
if you're having a good time.
We're actually ending the space now, guys.
So thank you so much for tuning in till the end.
And to our lovely guests,
It's a pleasure to always have you guys here.
And see you guys on Friday
for another episode of Spaces Playbook.
And with that, we're closing this space now.
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