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SPACES PLAYBOOK | Effective Hosting Skillset
Recorded: July 28, 2025 Duration: 1:12:01Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion on effective hosting skills in the crypto space, key insights were shared about project launches, partnerships, and innovative community engagement strategies. Notably, the launch of 'Play to Change' aims to harness gaming for social good, while the Dash project continues to grow through strategic marketing efforts.
Full Transcription
Thank you. you I I'm Thank you. Oh all right everybody good morning good morning i hope you guys are feeling well doing okay um
hello and welcome to the episode three of spaces place uh playbook i'm your host creon
today i'm gonna be joined by mr. Console and we're going to talk
about effective hosting skills. Last Friday on episode two we talked about hosting your first
space which focused on the vibe or the mood and the dynamics of conversations. It was a great space. If you can check the recording,
I learned a lot from the speakers there. We also kind of talked about the attitude
one must possess to be a good host. Today we will discuss effective hosting skills. I mean,
Today we will discuss effective hosting skills. I mean, there's a lot of skill set that we must probably possess.
Today we're going to be focusing on, let's say, maybe moderation. to talk about this as well especially Joel has shared a lot of information about this
so probably not gonna ask him too much about this but I will direct you or refer you to
the previous space and also active listening is also important. We're going to talk about that time management and inclusivity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just want to, well, for now, let me welcome,
I'm going to do a virtual handshake and warmly welcome with,
I mean, my co-host, one of my soul brothers in a Web3 NX spaces.
And then I will let him introduce.
Brother, do you have the script open?
It's just to introduce the guests, rather.
Do you have it?
Yeah.
How are you doing, Mr. Consul?
Hey, hey, hey.
Yes, I have the script open i am those co-hosts that take the co-host
responsibilities a bit too seriously i'm doing well but i forgot to eat lunch
i say that knowing that our panelists totally relate to just being busy having a productive monday being high on
energy it's not as if i was hungry and unable to eat i was just super excited for the whole day
until i looked at the clock and i'm like damn it's 7 p.m and there's nothing in my tummy yet
other than that i'm feeling good i'm happy that we're going to be discussing about the effective hosting skill set.
Just to preface our discussion, there is no right or wrong.
It's all about your style and how you impose your style.
We have great panelists already here, others to join us.
And I can't wait to share notes learn from them so please let's
share the spaces right as we're kicking off to make sure we get more of an audience other than
that i'm really in high spirits i think leaving my ex was the best decision i ever made creon
what ex are we talking about? The X application or what?
Let's just dot, dot, dot that.
Yeah, brother.
So, yeah, but, you know, I'm not really feeling well today because it's been raining and we have typhoons
for like a couple of weeks already.
And yesterday I was like,
because the government office are closed closed but i had to do something
update my my some of my credentials my my ids um it was a productive day but i'm not feeling well
because i went out well the weather is isn't very good um so yeah but we're pushing for this
definitely um so yeah let's uh welcome our speakers uh for now i'm getting another request
i'm not sure who is but uh i hope he is he's cool so let's let's have him um join the conversation
uh it's ra um but yeah let's welcome the speakers are the ones that on our um list first are the ones on our list first, the ones who book through XCO's Senior Choice or Sir Choice.
He is a great friend, a content creator,
and X-Spaces house of a Spanish gaming X-Spaces show
called Old School Club.
He is also part of the XCO's creator program,
and he is the community lead of the Web3 game
Operation Safe Place.
Yeah, and he's working with Uncle Funk,
if you guys know him.
Welcome to the stage,
and thank you for joining us today, Sir Choice.
Tell us how you're doing today,
and please do a short intro, my friend.
Thank you so much, Creon.
Mr. Consul, excited to share the panel with you guys.
Brothers, much love always.
The energy levels are great.
Lots of duties and responsibilities to carry.
But yeah, I've joined a team that cooks nonstop.
So for sure you mentioned Uncle Funk.
You guys should see him cooking and devving live for like 25 hours a day when the day only has 24 hours.
The levels of energy and commitment are insane.
But yeah, I'm excited to take the position of the community lead.
You know, it's a project that is here to change lives.
And it's not just the talk, like the NGO is running
and we want every girl safe and everything that is coming as revenue streams to the project
is also going to the NGO.
So it's gaming with purpose.
Tomorrow I'm launching the first show on X-Cost
and getting ready to start setting up the things
because it's going to be called Play to Change.
We got a lot of P2E, P2A, P2 everything,
but we need some P2C plate to change, my man.
So it's been the goal is what I've been preaching about.
I know that this industry has the power of changing lives.
It has done it with us
and we can witness it doing it with a lot of more people too.
So I'm just a surviving guy,
been in the space since 2021 with the axi boom
been juggling and rolling through different roles on web3 but the most important thing is i have
met amazing people such as the hosts and the co-hosts and the family joining here which i'm
proud to say they rock on every way so thank you for having me, for welcoming me. This is like a fair space since I'm getting back on Excohost.
But excited to be here.
Thank you for bringing me over, my brothers.
Appreciate you much.
Of course, brother.
Thank you so much for that.
Of course, welcome back to doing your own spaces again.
I'll be there.
I'm joining definitely for sure if it does not collide with my spaces schedule and yeah next up we
have always supportive guy in this space we have Joel Valenzuela is the
gentleman behind the business development and marketing of dash who
is also a content creator doing X basis and podcast if you're always listening to our space he's always
supporting us and providing great value to to these spaces that we're running so yeah behind
the dash account i think god this was what he's going to be using joel how are you doing this
morning and this monday happy monday too hey how's going? I'm doing great, thanks. It's been about almost six hours into the day.
So it was an early morning and then there you go, just more stuff.
But yeah, hey, everyone, I'm happy to be here always to support.
And I have to say, as always,
chill the space that we do every Thursday, the Crypto Quorum at 5 p.m.
ETC. Feel free to show up there and listen to it and just any thoughts on like, hey, well, how did you do that thing?
Or I kind of like how you did this or like, why did you do this thing that it's kind of dumb?
Whatever it is, just feel free to use it as like a thing to look at and feel free to ask them
feedback on when we do these, these spaces here.
I think I signed up for the, for all of Creon's like list of,
of these, the series for the future. So probably be on there. So yeah.
Happy to be here. Always happy to spend literally like three quarters of my
work day on spaces, most days or calls or whatever it is
yeah thank you joel i just follow all of dash's posts so i don't miss anything
uh i keep missing the live i always get to see the recordings um now i'm following all of the
posts um and your account as well and um next up we are gonna move on to looking
for Coco he's not here yet so I guess we're moving on to our a how are you
doing sir it's your first time on the stage with us and yeah tell us about
tell us something about yourself you Just brief intro. Good morning, good afternoon, or good evening to you.
How are you?
All right.
Can you hear us?
Oh, they got him.
They got him.
Well, I'll be okay.
And I hope it's just the internet connection or maybe just space is rugged.
Yeah. He ain't rugged oh he is he ain't rugged he ignoring oh r-a wait hey wait hey r-a see if he's in another space that he thinks is cooler and he's just
paying attention to that one can you do two spaces at the same time i don't know
i've done that before because I got caught up with you know
I missed to check my calendar and that happened out one of the account is on the left
But right now I cannot do it because my our internet connection is
Restrict has restrictions. I don't know
It's so slow
It's supposedly 60 Mbps, but we're when I do the speed test it's just showing for up to
max of 10 mbps and yeah a lot of things I cannot do without a VPN as well yeah now let's move on
to the discussion let's see let's see all right so since we're gonna be talking about effective
hosting skills we're I think we're going to be talking about effective hosting skills,
I think we're going to be starting with moderation.
This is kind of like mentioned by, I mean, Joel has shared a lot about this.
So I'm not sure if you want to add, but I'm going to be asking this,
especially I'm going to need some answers from Sir Choice.
But yeah, feel free to share more Joel and
I always appreciate your valuable answers so because I need to learn from
everyone kind of like we need to let people learn for everyone not just me I
can create a like a full-on material for this but it's great to hear it from different
people right so mr. sir choice in your choice how do you keep a conversation
flowing without letting it go off the rails yeah how do you put it back to the
top you know if somebody or if the conversation is becoming so good, everyone
is like enthusiastic and they kind of get off the rail.
It's all about, you know, there's nothing written in stone and sometimes you can let
people flow it a little right here and there.
You just need to have that gut feeling that lets you know, like, hey, it's enough at some point. It's a wisdom
thing. It's a mixture of skills that you develop only through experience where you know, okay,
that's enough. Like there are other people that wants to speak to, and we need to get everybody
bringing their inputs and their opinions. So you don't want to have somebody grabbing into the mic
too long, but you don't want to cut them off, especially if what they're saying is making sense and is bringing value to the conversation.
So like most things in life, man, it depends on the rant and the situation.
But obviously, we want to keep things professional.
We want to keep things kind and friendly.
keep things kind and friendly. We don't want everyone to get harmed. So if some speaker is
We don't want everyone to get harmed.
getting too emotional, too excited, and we see that he's kind of like getting a little personal
with another panelist and things can go south, then we should know when to use that mute button,
interrupt, and take control of the conversation to keep everyone back in track. But most of the
times people joining panels are like already experienced and know how
to flow with the conversations and how to respect everyone there are odd cases and exceptions i think
that we all know them but they also bring value and they also turn things in a spicy way which is
is good too but most important is just stay kind stay kind at all times and make sure that you are allowing everybody to express their thoughts so no one feels left behind.
I mean, if you've got 10 panelists, make sure they all got their part shared and they got to talk about their opinions and bring value in their own ways.
own ways it's something that is developed over time and that is really connected to
the the feeling of the conversation and and how the emotion is controlled over space
that that would be my two cents i mean it's not something written in stone again it's something
that takes a little bit of experience but yeah that just values and kindness and respect they
need to be in the table if if those things are missing and you're not
stopping it then you're lacking as a host i think that's the best moderation like just like with the
discord server you know like there are some warnings there are there are things that you
kind of low but there are things that are just huge reflex so you gotta take action and it's
pretty much the same it's just live and yeah make sure that everyone gets to share their thoughts and and put their value and
insights without disrespecting others it's good to have you know counterparts and different opinions
coming together because that makes the conversation rich but uh people need to stay respectful at all
times so they don't hurt anybody like we're not here to hurt people we're here to grow and learn
together so for me that's what it is about.
Awesome, awesome, brother.
Actually, I have a follow up question
before I pass it over to Mr. Consul.
Sometimes as a host, we are experiencing some,
especially if we have co-hosts, right?
There are speakers and even our co-hosts sometimes
could like over dominate the conversation
or the microphone. You probably have experienced that right and how you know how do you
handle that how do you kind of like you don't want to overstep that person as
well because you know there's certain amount of assertiveness we have to kind
of like maintain but also at the same time uh moderate how do you
go about that you know you have like an experience i've been living that with my bros for long i mean
the pfizer racer i miss him so much he's a broman and he had this thing like he was the host and i
was the co-host but he sometimes would become this workman.
And whenever somebody was just getting into their train of thoughts and expressing themselves,
he would come with his sharp sword and cut them off right up the strut.
So sometimes I just had to go like, bro, let them finish their thoughts.
He's like, no, I'm just going to say something important.
And he's a legend, but you know, it depends again.
Everybody knows who he is and who he is.
And they love him and value him that way.
So you got to remind him that people need to bring their thoughts to the conversation.
But it's just that.
If you're hosting or co-hosting, just say it.
We're friends.
It's always wise and good to have that group with your uh hosts and co-hosts so that while the conversation is happening live you can also like ping them through either
telegram discord whatever app you're using so it's like hey you've done more than a minute now
you've done more than a certain amount of seconds like hey you didn't let this person finish get
back to them so they can stay on top of it and be reminded live i think that that's the best
thing that i could it's communication behind the live space
so that things run smooth.
But if that's not working,
then just give that warm, loving shout out.
Like, hey, bro, I think that you're cutting him off.
We apologize.
We know his love,
but let's let them finish their thoughts
and their inputs.
We all get to speak.
And that's it, man.
Let's just keep it real.
Be authentic.
Like we all are humans here. Like nobody's perfect and mistakes will happen but we overcome them and the
way that we flow with them and we get over them is what makes us special yeah i mean um defy is his
own um legend on the space he's i think that has become his brand uh and we got used to to him and
we still like love him um but um we have to kind of like remember or like at least understand that
there are different kind of people in this space right um some people i don't know uh i don't want
to label people but they might have some kind of like an ad like me I forgot I forget things a lot and you know you know if you don't want to lose your that thought you know
this is very important to share sometimes what I do is I ask people to
kind of like hold on to that thought get something to try to write it on it you
know or type it on your keyboard something like that so you don't miss
it but you know maintaining that respect for everyone to speak,
you know, we need to pass the mic.
With that said, I'm going to pass it over to Mr. Consul.
I don't know if you have something to add on that
or if you want to ask that question that you have there, brother.
Yeah, for sure.
I 1,000% wholeheartedly love the wise thoughts and meditated thoughts from Sir Choice.
He is right that you have to remain kind when correcting.
And it takes acumen.
It takes a lot of experience.
It just takes an understanding of your panel.
And sometimes people don't like being called out publicly.
They want you to shoot them a message.
I've been in a scenario where I messaged some dude telling him that,
bruh, at this point, you yappy, man.
Shut up and let the next person speak.
Of course, I didn't word it that way but i
dm'd them and they caught feelings they dropped down they were like uh you you invited me on the
space and now you're talking too much you know they got all emotional with it so let me just
throw it at joel how do you deal with correcting a panelist without hurting their feeling?
Because you want to keep the space alive.
You see that they are rambling and killing the energy.
You're maybe losing speakers, keeping hands up for panelists too long.
How do you handle that, Joel?
How do you correct without being, you know, mean? Yes, we've heard that you should stay kind, but give us a little bit more of your experience here, Joel.
with. And so that doesn't mean you ignore the problem. If it is a real problem, then obviously
deal with it. But the more it can seem like you're not doing anything, the better. The more you hide
it, especially from the person. Now, this has been something with conflict resolution and things
like that, like de-escalating violent situations in person, for example. One thing that you do not want to do is to act aggressively
kind of like a police would do.
Like, sir, I'm going to have to ask you to...
Listen, that really winds people up
and can really make people upset.
So anyway, first of all, you can not address the person
directly and still get your outcome is better. So if they're being like very aggressive to this
one person, maybe if you can just sort of interrupt me like, oh yeah, but by the way,
what I, but I, I did think I liked what this person said is XYZ.
And then just put it onto a third party.
Like say you have Alice and Bob, like they say in crypto, you have Alice and Bob are fighting with each other.
Alice is yelling at Bob.
And you could say, hey, oh, yeah.
So, well, to be fair to Bob, I really think that this kind of point might be kind of interesting that he
brought up, but Charlie, what did you have to say actually?
And then Charlie's pulled in and then Alice,
who was being mean to Bob is not being, is not now talking.
And hopefully that distracts them that they're,
they're just quiet and while the other person talks and everything works out
and they don't go and say, well, I just wanted to say this person's still an asshole. Like, hopefully they don't do that.
Another way sometimes is if you would, if you can talk directly to the person who's
the problem, but not in a way that just says, Hey, you need to stop. Like, that's very aggressive.
If you just say like, Hey, well, yeah, I don't know if, Hey, I don't know if Bob was really meaning like that, but what I really
like, then just redirect for what they were saying. What I really liked Alice, what you were
talking about is X, Y, Z. What do you think about that? And then get, even though the aggressive
person is still talking now, they're hopefully talking about something less aggressive and then that works. And the next level is humor where you can just say like, oh my gosh, like,
you know, did Bob really, you know, what did Bob do to Alice? Wow. She's, you know, Bob come clean.
Did you, you know, did you pump and dump her favorite mean coin or something?
I don't know.
Just make some dumb joke and kind of defeats the situation and then move on.
And it's kind of like the last resort thing is to sort of stop it.
Actually, just be like, hey, can we stop this?
Sorry, we need to be a lot more respectful here about that.
And when you do that, it's very
important to always give a carrot, as they say, to the person you just had to shut up. You have to
say, I'm sorry, I had to meet you there for just getting a little loud. But please tell me what
you think about this thing. I really wanted to get to that part that we didn't talk to yet. And then
even though you just made them be quiet, you then make them not be quiet and, or give them some props in a way that they don't feel like,
Hey,
you just shut me down.
I love that.
That is like a very creative way of doing it.
When you can make it a little bit comical,
but yeah,
you gotta have a very sharp and quick thinking to do do that which i don't have uh even my um my dad you know kind of
kind of like dad jokes um i'm trying to like adapt some dad jokes even though i'm not yet a dad
um just you know to to make people laugh um but i'm kind of lame doing that so that's not for me but being kind definitely works for me a
little bit um yeah I love your takes on that I think mr. council we're moving on
to active listening yeah I'll do what ask question about that yeah for sure i i i actually want to stay on this point a little bit more
i don't know why i'm finding it very interesting and we're having really really good takes
we've somewhat corrected being an effective host from the standpoint that we're, you know, mitigating us from deep waters
towards shallow, sunny, sandy beaches. Have you guys had the opposite effect where you have a
speaker who's so good and you just want them to keep on talking, but they're not necessarily engaged.
Right.
What about that to just discuss this from the other angle where, of course, we want to be controlling conflict. But at times it's not conflict that we're managing.
We're just managing the fact that we've brought a genius on board but they're not really feeling the mood they're
not really feeling like taking part let me throw this in here before we get into effective listening
because i'm sure such a voice will wow me once again oh my man i mean it's a really tough one
because when someone is delivering value but it's just not connecting with the audience, it's a tough call.
And you got to, you know, really feel if what the person is saying, it's making sense for people to enjoy a little bit more.
So I'll put it on the balance, right?
I'll put it on the balance, right?
And I would say, even if he's sounding a little boring,
if with this person that's a little genius,
it's making sense, it's educating people,
and it's good for the conversation overall,
even though maybe it's not setting the right mood for it
or keeping the good vibes,
I'll do my best to let him finish his thoughts.
If he's getting too long, I'll try to
interact or try to recap some of the big ideas so that he can feel like we are acknowledging what
he's saying, but like we kind of want him to speed up a little bit or flow a little bit more
or try to correlate with a little joke that will you know
resonate with what he's talking about but get him to get into the mood of you know don't talk in
such a flat ton of voice you know play with your tone like deliver a little bit of emotion a little
quick interrupt and giving back so he can finish with what's adding value to the conversation would be the move I will take.
It's easier said than done, but that's how I would play that.
If it's just not changing and it's playing flat and it's still in the space and I see people falling asleep,
then I'll definitely have to just stop it and not get my back and get the next person rolling because we don't want to lose our audience and we want the rest of the panelists to be
able to add to, even if they are not the most knowledgeable ones, we want to keep the conversation
engaging and entertainment.
It's an extra space.
It's not a class at the university.
I think that would be my take, my man.
I love that would be my take, my man. I love that.
And I love that you've brought in the audience.
Speaking about listening, are you listening as a host?
Are you listening as a fellow panelist?
Or are you listening as an audience?
Let me throw that over to you, Dash.
Because sometimes some spaces get very technical, right? If we're talking gaming,
especially the topics I love to dive into when I'm hosting with Bigger, we're talking real numbers.
We're not sugar coding anything. Sometimes it feels like the audience is lost. So who are you
listening to the takes of the panelists as? Sorry, could you rephrase that?
I didn't quite get the nuance in there.
Creon, help me out.
Let me throw it out to Creon.
Are you asking about
from which perspective are you listening
from? Is that right?
Yeah, exactly.
As a host?
Are you listening to the takes as a host, as it that's yeah are you listening to the takes as a host
as a panelist are you listening to the takes as a fellow just someone who got a job to
do that that's more of the question
so i guess what i would say is the roles don't matter nearly as much because what we care about at the end of the day is the end product, meaning with the space and the space should go well.
If it's the host who owns, like the host is the one who runs things.
The host has the ultimate responsibility to make sure everything works out well.
And that means that if the, as I mentioned, I think the last, last week, if the content
isn't good, like people aren't talking enough, then the host has to become a participant
themselves to kind of make things work.
And the opposite can kind of work as well too. So like,
if I'm on a space with, you know, other people and there's in some way, I see the host is struggling,
for example, or there's something else going, something else missing. I will try to jump in and, and say something to, to kind of help, even though obviously I won't try to take over the role of the host because that's what the host does.
But for example,
if there's some like sort of awkwardness
with a technical issue or, you know,
someone coming up to speak or whatever,
I will sometimes go make jokes,
even if I'm just a speaker,
I'll make some kind of joke or a side comment
or whatever to help smooth everything over, even if the host, it's kind of the host job, but it's like,
also it's my job to make sure the whole space goes well, as far as I can, even though I just
signed up to speak, if I can add in some other little things too, or if I can come to the defense of someone who's being attacked or if i do a joke or hey you know what
did alice do to what who dumped alice's meme coin did bob do that make make her so upset whatever
comment like that if it comes from a participant it might not upset the person as much because
it's like the um it's not like they're being reprimanded by
an authority figure. It's just like someone else saying something. And, um, sometimes what I,
what you can even do is when you do have a group together, you have a group of people,
you know, on a space, sometimes you can actually just coordinate with each other to talk as far
as like, say, like there have been some spaces where someone
has been talking too much and they've been trying like having their hand up too much
for, and I just don't want to have them up to say something.
And so I'll message someone else I know who's on the space and be like, Hey, can you help
me out here?
Can you raise your hand, ask some questions?
So I have an excuse to go to you and just talk a whole lot until this other person I
don't want to hear gives up.
Like there are some coordination things you can do with other participants you know if you're all in it together awesome thank you appreciate that um um joel uh
you're always well well thought brother um that's a good point uh also i wanted to connect actually um
empathy to listening i know sir choice you have you probably have answered to that previous question
but um also you can add up um you know because because i think there's something um inactive
listening you know especially as a host um you have to just not hear things right you have to
like understand especially when it comes to some situations, right?
Like there was this one time,
one time I was co-hosting with another host
and we have a speaker that is really adding so much value,
but people cannot catch up to what he's saying
because he's so technical.
I know what he's saying.
He's really technical. I think it's probably he's saying because he's so technical i know what he's saying um he's really
technical i think it's crow he's talking about ai and it's very way advanced because he's an
engineer and a lot of people there um cannot understand him very well but um you know i kind
of like respect him for what he's doing but he he has an attitude um that he he's very pushy and um
i don't know it kind of like dominates the stage um it wants to prove that he, he, he's very pushy. And I don't know,
it kind of like dominates the stage.
It wants to prove that he's a genius or something like that.
I sound a little bit arrogant for, for some, but I don't want to ask him that
it is his intention, but you know, sometimes we need to like,
kind of like show some empathy and definitely kindness. That's,
that's how I kind of like that. That was like my workaround to like, kind of like show some empathy and definitely kindness. That's, that's how I kind of like that.
That was like my workaround to it, you know,
understanding and making him understand that not everyone can understand him
because he's on a level that not everyone is on, you know, kind of like that.
But yeah, I just wanted to kind of like add that.
But yeah, sweet choice, your hand is raised.
Go for that.
I hope you don't, you didn't miss that thought yet.
Sir Troyes, I'm not sure if you're speaking.
Okay. Can you hear me now? Okay, great. So, Naiman, yeah, that question is actually very related to what Mr. Consul was asking earlier. And it's, who are you listening to the conversation as?
People can get technical.
They can come with jargon.
And not everybody in the audience will understand what we're talking about.
For those scenarios, you have to be listening as everybody.
You cannot just think, oh, no, everyone here is a Web3 Pro,
and they know what we're talking about.
No, you got to break it down to the people who's listening so you gotta become a translator and and i've experienced this firsthand
on some of the gaming and espanol spaces we are hosting you know speakers that come from gaming
projects that have no idea about spanish but it's in spanish space so we need to transmit that to
the audience so So when translating,
we're just not translating jargon. We're translating on words that people can understand,
that the Spanish community can understand. I think that as a host, if you know that somebody's
getting technical and perhaps the audience will not understand, you got to, you know, put it in
terms that people will be able to digest. So put it in simple words, something more international
as our community in Web3.
As for the case that you were mentioning,
and I'm going to quote Uncle Funkin here,
no banter poodoo will pass.
Like, I will not tolerate arrogance on spaces.
The guy could be a genius,
but if he doesn't know how to be kind on a human being,
I'll probably never invite him again to my spaces
or accept him on the panel.
He can deliver his value
through his posts on his timeline
and if people find it interesting they can go follow there
but I'm not vibing with people
that doesn't know how to stay kind and be respectful
that's my take
yeah I love that
yeah always being kind for Mr. Choice
I've never
heard you being rattled on his face
because of a situation.
Like, you always turn into,
especially when, you know how chaotic DeFi Bros is, right?
And you've always been chill guy.
And just making some of those into jokes.
So really love that you are doing it so well, brother.
It's like almost part of your branding
and you're doing very well at it.
So yeah, I admire you for doing that.
I think we can move on to time management.
This is something that I need to work on.
Like even on IRL.
He's just laughing probably right now.
So, guys, how do you, especially like earlier, right?
The conversation about moderation or, yeah, I mean, it's a good topic, you know.
But how do you decide when to
kind of like move on to the next topic because you have a time limit you know you want to respect
other people's time but the confidence is just getting so good you know um how do you usually
go about that um and because sometimes you also go off off the script right um me i don't really um stick to my script
i don't even like call them like really script just just some outline but um you have to be very
um like flexible right but how do you um kind of like respectfully move on to the next topic,
even though, you know, everyone's enjoying that current conversation,
this other topic at hand, and just, they're just loving it.
How do you go about that?
Maybe you will start with Dash, if you can share a story about,
or maybe just an example on how it was, how it went,
when you were in that situation
so you mean about just having to switch subjects at some point yeah something like that how do you
even though you know everyone is really loving that conversation and even you here's how you're
like but you had to yeah well typically typically you don't.
Anytime you can avoid having to force change a popular topic, you should.
Just because the point of the space is for it to be good, right?
And so if it's good, then just don't make it not good.
Don't kill it if you don't, if you can't.
If there's a legit reason you have to switch that,
like, for example, you have to go over these five topics and you're running out of time.
You can just say like, oh, this is really amazing. We should really schedule like another space to
like go more in depth because we clearly love this. It just, we have to get, we have to touch
on that one thing before we wrap up and we're kind of, it's like 20 more minutes and I see
we're running out of time.
So, hey, can we talk about this? That's like one example of doing that.
The other, anytime you can make it smoother is probably the way to do it.
So a couple of things, like what I do when hosting is that's when you jump in as a participant in a way that turns you into, it's like the host participant where you also chime in on that subject where you say, you know, like, yeah, I agree this, that, oh man, it's crazy, blah, blah, blah.
blah, blah, blah. And I kind of, and any way you can make a segue into the other subject yourself,
which does take some practice, of course, that could help where you just say in addressing point
A, you start tying it into point B and then you just go from there. So then it doesn't even feel
like the subject changed. It just, the conversation continued.
If you can do that,
then that's the best way of doing things.
Otherwise, you might just have to like jump in as yourself and just answer.
Yeah, I think that's an important point, blah, blah, blah.
But anyway, we should probably talk about this thing here
and then just go into that.
Because once you control the flow of the conversation,
you can just flow it that way.
So that's probably what I would do.
The more organic, the better.
If you can just flow from the one subject to the other and have tie the one subject into the next.
So it sounds like you're still talking on subject one and then you're talking about subject two.
And people are like, wait, how did that switch?
That's the best way.
But otherwise, you might just say you might yourself talk about subject A and then say, oh, by the way, I think we should talk about subject B.
And again, if you do know people in the conversation, if you can get their attention,
maybe you can message them and say, hey, can we start talking about this? We got to hit on this
one. And so if they're in the middle of a thing, maybe they'll stop talking as much or maybe they will do that job for you
where they're answering subject A
and they're like, oh, but by the way,
I heard we're talking about subject B.
I think I wanted to say a few things on that too.
And then you go there.
Awesome, awesome.
Well, kind of like related question.
How important is neutrality or being neutral because sometimes you stick to a conversation
because we're becoming biased or i really love this conversation we're pinning down some something
like like an issue especially if it's about um uh something that we can relate maybe crypto and
then there's like a crypto tea or something that's going on this space and then we like to talk about
it um we're kind of like pinning down somebody
because they are, I don't know, being accused or whatever,
something like that.
Hopefully we don't get to that point.
But is neutrality important for you to moderate?
Let me pass it over to,
I'm not sure if you want to add or answer that, Joel,
but if not, then I'll go to Sir Choice.
I'll add a little bit to that.
I think that neutrality is not necessary,
but I think fairness is.
So if you have a point of view,
there's nothing wrong with having a point of view
because that's authentic, but you should be fair so if someone feels like
their point they're being bullied or ganged up on or they're not being allowed to speak enough and
the other people are that's when you have problems so you have to make sure to be fair even if you
can still be biased and the other thing that i do is i like the conversation to have two sides. It's, it's a little, if possible,
it's a little better. And so if everyone on the space is agreeing with one point of view,
and there's one person on the other side, or no people on the other side, then I will
play the other side usually. And some of it is,
you know, if I do actually have honest opinions that, that work with that, then of course that
works. Sometimes I don't. And then I have to say, I'm playing devil's advocate. Just say, well,
you know what, some people might say this and, you know, and I don't, I don't believe this,
but I've heard some people say X, Y, and Z. What do you think about that?
Do you think that that counters this point that we've been talking about? And then just to make
sure it's balanced. And like a lot of times, which side I'll advocate for, I pick based on the lineup
on both sides. Like if it's, if the point that I agree on is, is underrepresented, then obviously
I'll just do that. But if the other one is underrepresented then obviously i'll just do that but if the other
one is underrepresented i guess i'm just going to be playing devil's advocate this whole time
just to make sure it's balanced love it love it um actually my co uh one of our co-hosts mr
console is also a master playing the devil's advocate i mentioned it last week maybe Maybe you want to say something about that, Mr. Consul,
because you always do that, you know, for the sake of conversation maybe,
or maybe you have another agenda.
Can you share your thought on that?
No, the thing is I'm just a devil.
And I use the term being a devil's advocate as a good way to be myself without revealing myself
because I don't want people to think I'm evil.
All right.
Suckling to this discussion, and sorry I got a bit distracted with what's happening in our Discord.
I believe...
Okay, let me not lie.
I wasn't listening keenly.
Do you mind bringing me up to speed?
Because I was distracted here.
Yeah, that's all right, brother.
So we were talking about...
Yeah, we got you.
I'm going to tell you.
Let me think.
Yeah, go ahead.
I know why you're bringing Joel as our co-host.
It's because this guy knows what he's saying.
And he answered the question in such a way that I didn't even need to raise my hand because he covered every point.
I think if you need to transition the conversation, if you have a script, if you actually have to touch on different points.
I didn't even raise my hand because I would just be saying what he already said just in different words.
So nailing it right there. At Mr Consul you you missed on a lot you're gonna have to play it back oh no no no it's no it's not that I missed it's just that I was listening but not consciously
but you brought me up to speed and yes I agree with the great takes that Joele said i think the key thing here is not just managing time but also managing
energy right you can speak about a certain thing and not necessarily have the same inputs towards
this topic and still want to go around with hands when the topic feels exhausted, get out.
When it feels as if there's still a lot more to be said or you want to stimulate the panelists
to look at the topic in a different angle,
I think that's where playing the devil's advocate
really does well.
You're not just agreeing and being a yes man,
but you're pushing back and you're opening the discussion to allow
both points of view so i think that's where being a devil's advocate really comes in but for me
you're just managing energy if the topic is good just just just like joel said why change it but
above everything if you're saying the same thing and you still have a lot of time to go on, change it.
Right. We're here to learn and we're here to make our one hour productive.
On that note as well, I think what's important is, you know, coming to a space that is topic oriented.
For example, this one, everybody joined here as a panelist,
knowing they're going to be talking about spaces. The listeners knew they're going to gain some
alpha on spaces. And the way you design your space should allow those quote unquote heavy blows,
the really, really big dog stuff to have a lot of time Because that's where the alpha really is
In contrast to the petty stuff
Which maybe gets people warmed up
Maybe gets people excited
So on and so forth
But above everything
You're managing energy
Not just time
Because time really doesn't exist
In fact I love going over time
Yeah I'm right at the end that's when i want to throw
in another spicy topic because you know you've left that impact everybody's gonna be thinking
about that and everybody's gonna be looking forward to subscribing to your next spaces so
those are my two cents here i was actually listening listening. It's Satois who had to bring
me back as he always does. Thank you, brother. Yeah, actually, I like that point about, you know,
managing energy. It's, yeah, I mean, kind of like missed that before. Yeah, you have to like really
pay attention to that as well. When you, as a host I think it's it's important
I think Joel did not say the right the word but he said the thought about that as well managing
you know the people the speakers because because it's definitely like it's gonna impact your next
spaces you know how people how the the other audiences see your spaces.
And it's kind of like the overall performance of the space if you're not able to manage the energy of it.
Right. And that leads to another to other topics.
Like, because we want to make sure that, you know, it's inclusive. Our space is inclusive.
Because we want to make sure that, you know, it's inclusive.
Our space is inclusive.
How do we maintain that?
And how do we kind of like promote that in a way, you know?
So, yeah, leading this one to the next topic, I mean, to the next question.
What's one thing hosts often overlook when trying to make their spaces feel safe and inclusive rather.
Have you guys noticed any spaces that doesn't feel very inclusive?
What are your thoughts on that?
And what do you think is something that they're missing?
Anyone who wants to give an answer to that?
Well, I will put my sense in it, my brother.
I think that just by looking at the title
and the people joining the conversation,
I already know if I want to be part of it or not.
So if it's something that I don't vibe with,
I will just not accept the invite or not signing.
So I haven't experienced myself being in a space where I haven't had a good time or had a meaningful conversation.
Because the people that's joining the panel knows what they're doing, knows what they represent, knows what they want to build.
So I haven't seen that kind of issue when I'm part of a space where it's not inclusive
or tolerant. And if I ever get to hit one of those, well, I'm never getting back on it.
So that's my two cents, my brother. I'm thankful that I haven't been able to join one. I've been
in spaces where it gets a little uncomfortable because of some people with a little rude attitude.
But believe me, this Web3 world,
it keeps curating itself and improving over time.
So even those that came with the wrong intentions,
with the wrong intentions,
they're putting themselves away of the game on their own.
Like they destroy the branding on their own,
they close the doors on their own. Like they destroy the branding on their own, they close the doors on their own.
So the space improves over time.
It's just a matter of time.
There'll be always bad weeds here and there,
but I'm thankful because most of what I get in my timeline
and what I vibe around is like real and amazing.
And that's what I wanna keep doing.
Curating the content around me, the spaces around me and the people that I engage and interact with to prevent that type of uncomfortable situation.
Thank you, brother. In contrast, though, I've noticed some other hosts who makes bad, what do you call this, title for their spaces, but I don't know.
Because maybe I just have time sometimes when I'm doing something and I just had to tune
into some of the, or just finding something to listen to.
And they have bad title, but they have good conversation going on.
Maybe that's another skill that needs to improve, and maybe we can talk about that later
on, on the next
episodes.
But, yeah, I mean,
I don't know, because
Joel and you kind of like the same,
he really
finds some topics that he want
to speak on.
If it's interesting, he's vibing with it,
he will definitely speak
but um I don't know kind of like don't just based on their topic but for sure
that is impacting you know that's why I'm seeing a lot of space that are
repetitive and not really interested to but sometimes when I listen to them I
kind of like give them a chance okay there's actually something going on here
that's interesting so it's hard to judge sometimes but yeah just to
throw that in there so guys actually mr console mentioned um we're five minutes um before the
um before the top of the hour so this is just one last question mr constant kind of like mentioned
it earlier so is it much more important to kind of like maximize your time or go over time or just stick to one hour?
I'll start with Dash or Joel.
So the space that we do every Thursday is slated for like an hour.
And this will be the 17th one in a row we've done this this week and of these
16 probably 14 have been three or more hours long so I kind of think that it's it all depends on
like the time constraints like obviously if we're doing these like ex-co-host type things where you book a certain time or like an AMA, like with
a company or someone, then typically an hour is, or whatever the time slot is, you want
to keep it to that kind of.
Whereas if there's, if it's very busy, very hopping, maybe you extend it by like half
an hour or just let, let it spill over a little bit.
Of course, obviously, if you have to be,
you have to be respectful for people's time.
So if you want to, if you try to make it spill over,
but most of the people who are involved in talking
are like, yeah, I have to leave to do another space.
That's not going to work.
But if you have an open-ended time for spaces,
I would let it go as long as it can,
as long as people will, as long as it's going. Like if conversation starts to die out, just let it, let it go as long as it can, as long as people will, as long as it's going.
Like if conversation starts to die out, just let it, let it die.
But if people are moving it, you should keep it moving.
And I have to say, so for example, Thursday after 1 p.m. my time, when the space starts,
I just have my calendar clear for the entire afternoon because I just want to let it,
want to have enough time
to have it like go some of it is because some speakers can't make it at the start or they're
like oh I have another space at that time sorry it's like well do you have another space an hour
after it starts because we'll still be going and then okay then some people come in and I
it's something with the way X is, you know,
algorithm or setup or whatever it works.
It takes a long time for spaces to warm up.
Sometimes I kind of feel like an hour is even like a short space and like
every single space,
no one just starts the space.
Everyone just plays the music or does.
Hey,
everyone gets the speakers up.
We'll be with you in just a few minutes or something.
And then it's like 10
minutes and it's when the actual thing starts it takes a while for people to see oh so and so
speaking on this space or all these people are speaking on the space and then they want to listen
so and then people come in and out and like if you have like a 20 minute 20 people show up in
an hour long space like that's one one thing. But then if you do
it three or four hours, then hopefully not four, four is pretty long. But if you do a few hours
and then you have people pop in like a different group of 20 people comes in and out. Now all of
a sudden you got like 60 people that listen to your space. And now it's like, wow, that was a,
it's a bigger space. You touch more people. So yeah, it just, I, for spaces, just the way spaces work.
I mean, other things like short form videos are obviously different, but I tend to think
that spaces are something you should just kind of let run as long as you can.
Unless again, you have like an hour, a tight hour you need to do.
I like that. That's a really good point. Because I always thought that you have to stick with your schedule. Although I always break that anyways. Because my thought is that, okay, for the speakers, they can go because I know how important their time is because they probably have other schedules have other schedules they're helping on other spaces too right so um if there are a lot of listeners and they're really engaging in the
I like that.
That's a really good point.
comments and they want to to speak up you know i kind of like um extended for another half an hour
for the listeners to actually get i think that's an opportunity for people to engage with you
you know um to make it more inclusive as well.
If they want to share something else or maybe they have questions that you can answer.
Yeah, I think that's a good way to kind of like do it in a hybrid way.
Yeah.
Thank you, Joel.
I'm going to give you, I know it's already time, but you want to share something that's going to happen today.
I mean, this week at Dash.
By the way, I followed all of your notifications now, so I won't miss it.
Joel, anything going on this week?
Yeah, one moment.
Sorry, I just had to open this thing.
I'm just going to pin in the comments here just the space we're doing on Thursday.
pin in the comments here just the space we're doing on thursday that's it so this thursday
Awesome.
That's it.
this the episode of the crypto quorum is going to be why aren't you living on crypto yet and so
in addition just being a fun discussion about using crypto as as money um it should hopefully
also be like a workshop as far as people say i would do this but i don't i can't do that with it and then you know hopefully get some
experts who are actually good at doing this stuff show up there and we can get to sort of
workshop it together so it should be a fun space show up it'll be good yeah we'll definitely show
up there and thank you um joel for sharing that um third choice, you want to give your last thought maybe,
and then we'll do, let's move on to your CTA.
Sir Choice?
My man.
I always double mute myself to prevent any noise in the space.
I only got rid of one of them.
But yes, no, your space has been amazing, Creon.
I think that the topic is really good.
It's of interest of a lot of people.
I hope that there will be a lot of replays because the information delivered,
it's very useful and handy for people in our industry hosting,
co-hosting spaces or willing to do so.
I think that has been an amazing space. about getting over the top of the hour joel already killed it with the answer uh like mr
council does i also would like to extend them with defy we used to go like three hours sometimes
more and just have the never surrender attitude because indeed you can compound the listeners and
reach more people but you always to be mindful and respectful of the
people that you're having in the panel. And if you know that they have other compromises on top of
the hour, Mr. Kozol has a really good way of doing it. It's like, I want to be respectful of
everybody's time, but if you have something else to do, feel free to go. Whoever has the time and
can't afford to stay for a few more minutes to keep tackling down this amazing conversation,
then we go for it.
But that's about it.
People who can stay amazing,
people who has to go understand that they're not doing it because their time is valuable, like you mentioned,
and they just have other things to go to and do about.
So that's the take about the time.
I would agree that the longer, the better,
just because of the reach.
But sometimes the one hour mark is good.
It also depends if you're hosting us from your personal profile.
It's a space that is just about you and what you want to build your personal brand or just general topics.
Or if you're actually representing a company where it's like more formal and maybe you want to be more like into the things that you wanted to cover and then just wrap it up after you're done with it and move on to the next meeting or next stuff but man i appreciate you for having me it's been amazing sharing time
with you guys i've been missing you all it's amazing to share with you guys again and the cta
well you're all invited to come to the citadel we have a lot going on we're migrating the discord
from operation safe place over to the citadel discord we have the delivery in the mint
for those who got the funquettes which are the the funky version of the wife of uncle funk which
is amanda and he's got the funkeys which are killing it on avalanche if you guys check it
around is the top collection in terms of uh trading for avanche and Magic Eden. And now the Funkettes are launching on C.
We're going to see them up soon.
Everybody who owns NFTs from within the ecosystem
is going to be eligible for really nice roles within Discord
that then will come with really nice perks.
So it's a community that is looking after those loyal community members.
So whoever is building up their reputation
and collecting assets from the project
is going to be kindly rewarded as you guys would expect
from Uncle Funk and the type of stuff
that he's always been doing.
So yeah, hope that you guys will be jumping in
from time to time.
I gotta be booking more Viga arcade spaces
to go and engage with the amazing bigger community which i
love a lot and it's already thriving and vibing thanks to mr console and yeah happy to see you
guys hoping in and jumping in and contributing if you guys would like to because it's indeed a
project that's coming with beautiful intentions built by beautiful people and i think that
it's got most of the kindest hearts that we will ever find in the Web3 gaming space.
So, yeah, you're all welcome.
And go and feel embraced by Funk.
He's running a 1,000-day marathon of every day showing up on the Arena app.
And he's doing his Funk show live streaming religiously at this time.
So I'm five minutes late to go and support him but yeah you're welcome
follow him on the arena and enjoy his his wisdom and thoughts and feel free to jump into the discord
he does it live while he's in discord so you can chat interact and reach a huge audience in the
arena he's usually reaching more than 500 800 people tuning in. He found his place there.
I'm still sticking to X because I have my family here.
But yeah, it would be something that you guys could look up to.
And just looking forward to more spaces with you all.
Appreciate your time and all of the good vibes and your wisdom.
Have a wonderful rest of the day.
Much love.
I'll check that out later on and definitely gonna happen to the discourse well from time to time and um, yeah
Of course, brother.
I'll check that out later on. And definitely going to happen to the Discord as well from time to time.
I also just want to add add something about mr
console
Because I've told mentioned areas that it's some of the spaces are like kind of like it had to warm up
It has to warm her up for like I don't know 15 half an hour
Minutes like but mr. Council does it on he does the action right away
Just just when he asked you to kind of like do some hour 15 minutes something like it but mr console does it on he does the action right away just
just when he asked um you to kind of like do some um intro and then he throws that question that you
have to answer right away so it's really become interesting um but yeah uh thank you so much
everybody thank you to my um speaker my guest um and my um my co-host mr console you want to say
something brother of nctTA going on this week?
I know you have that showing tomorrow, which will be there.
Tell us something about it before we wrap up and before we close space.
Yeah, for sure.
I agree with the takes of our very lovely and experienced
and you guys should follow speakers.
But at the same time,
I look at the audience and their ability to engage,
especially when I'm looking over at Bigger.
Whenever we're running our spaces,
we're also actively engaging on Discord.
And the attention span for these guys is is really weak i'm not calling them
retarded or anything it's just the truth of the matter if you run everything above an hour 30
minutes oh boy you're just in that space talking to yourself for sure and sometimes i'm okay with
that because if i'm just with creon I'm picking your minds on a particular topic.
To those who have engagements to do Coolio, for those who don't, I'm curious.
Let's have an after spaces party is what I like to call it, right?
But essentially, I find it really good to be short and sweet if possible.
to be short and sweet if possible at the end of the space of course you want to throw that
controversial take that will make people second guess their schedule make them want to miss their
meeting but that only truly should extend for 15 or 30 minutes because anything above that even on
my side i start feel like i start feeling as if i'm not giving it my A game. I'm tired. My attention
span is not really that high after an hour or so. I'm not even taking notes. So maybe I'll just
transition the space into like a family friendly, hey, we're just talking casually. There's no
protocol. You don't have to lift your hands, which I like doing the
spaces, but for the after spaces, just shoot your thought as it is. Although for me, I
think, yeah, you want to create some sort of urgency, right? There's a reason we're
there and, oh no, we haven't gotten to cover this in that time period. Let's extend slack,
it's just five minutes.
And then that five minutes is 10 minutes.
Then that, you know, 10 minutes is, ah, you know what?
We're going to have to run this back.
So you get your guys booked on for the next spaces.
That's typically how I like to do them.
On other news, Sachois, I'm going to be joining your Discord.
Joel, it's been a pleasure to be here with you.
I'm going to try to show up for your show on Thursday.
I'm going to wish everybody a happy week.
I'm not really the type to shield.
I find that I need to learn how to tell people to promote me.
But I'm very happy to be here.
Thank you, Creon.
It's been a lovely space
some of what we do we just do subconsciously but this space is making hosting appear a bit
to be an art because i don't even really think about this stuff for me i'm just having a
conversation with my friends my digital friends and i love it It's that one hour where you're hanging out with the boys,
essentially.
So I appreciate that this space is transitioning what we do more into a
science and into an art,
but above everything,
just,
just be yourself.
I think that's all that really matters in this game.
Yeah,
absolutely brother.
Thank you so much.
I like that you're feeling that vibe because I'm trying to like really
transition it.
I don't want it to be like a panel conversation. You know, as much as possible, if we can turn it into like a really like organic fireside chat, I would love it for it to be like that. We're closing the space and thank you so much for being here, for tuning in from start to finish.
And if you're listening to the recording, I hope you learned something from our lovely speakers.
We're doing this Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays at 12 noon EST or EDT, 4 p.m. UTC.
And with that, guys, we're closing the space.
Enjoy the rest of the day or evening or afternoon wherever you are.
Love and peace to you.
Bye guys. Thank you.
