Thank you. Hey, hey, what's up, man?
Let me just check something.
Test, test, can you guys hear me?
I can barely hear you, Gabriel.
Yeah, now it's much better.
I haven't seen you do spaces before.
This is not my first time doing spaces come on delta yeah yeah you're with experiences
come on it's just a button at the top of this website we've been on this website for years
scrolling yeah nice man um yeah well it's good to have you on man i have i wanted to have you on for
quite some time we we spoke about this uh like two months ago and uh we finally had a chance
to make it happen um and yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting we usually bring on
traders um and um i think it's gonna be fun to have someone with a little bit of a different view to crypto.
And especially it's nice to have someone who's shitposting as much as I do.
Please, please don't talk down about my posts, okay?
Yeah, we're going to get down to the Gabriel lore and like how the video memes and
stuff like that happens gonna be it's gonna be good before we jump into like
deeper discussions stuff like that I want to welcome everyone to the second
season of Spilly Alpha sure that you guys are going to enjoy this episode
things gonna be a way more fun one and yeah thanks for coming Gabriel I really
appreciate it man no problem it's gonna be boring
welcome no i don't think so uh if you guys don't know gabriel he's one of the funniest uh guys on
the website i think his videos are really really hilarious and just in general really high quality
posting um if you don't follow him make sure to give him a follow. He occasionally tweets stuff about Ethan DeFi,
and I usually just follow him for the funny videos.
But yeah, if you don't follow him, make sure to give him a follow.
Really good account, really good addition to the timeline.
And yeah, if you guys have any questions at any point,
just a reminder, at the bottom right corner,
you have the replies button. You can click on it, it leave any questions and we'll touch on them towards the
end of the show um and before we jump into the questions huge mention to kuma who'd shout out
to kuma for hosting these spaces we're now live you can trade with up to 50x leverage and we're
giving out over 15 000 every single week in rewards that you can claim every single day.
So if you haven't tried Kuma yet, make sure to give him a try.
And yeah, Gabriel, again, thanks a lot for coming.
And I want to start with just chatting a little bit about your background.
Because I have no idea about how did you get into crypto?
How did you get into just being active with ETH and stuff like that? And yeah, so how did you get into crypto? How did you get into like just being active with ETH and stuff like that?
And yeah, so how did you get here?
I got into crypto maybe five years ago.
I was a content creator before crypto actually i was i was a hummus
content creator i was living in tel aviv and i would go around to all the different hummus places
and review them like this oh yeah this is the best taste is the best texture is the best taste, this is the best texture, this is the best service, that type of thing.
And then COVID hit, so all the places closed.
And yeah, that's when I started to really learn about crypto.
I had heard about it before, but that was really when I started to do some research.
And very early on, as I began researching, I also started to create content about it,
even though I didn't really understand what I was talking about.
But it's a good way to learn.
Yeah, there's learning practice.
Yeah, for sure. So obviously it started with Bitcoin. I mean, just understanding like,
So obviously, it started with Bitcoin.
mostly I was interested in the concept of a hedge against inflation, because at the time,
Biden was saying we're going to print, you know, so when you print the hedge, quote unquote,
is supposed to be Bitcoin. So that's why I started learning learning and then very quickly from there i got excited about
ethereum because there was actual applications that you could use and i found that really exciting
like ave synthetics um yeah this was like right in the big boom of define right yeah right this summer exactly right before that um so my first eth transaction i did on uh an argent
wallet and still no airdrop fuck you arson um but i i did a transaction and it failed
and like this is how new i was like i was like i spent the gas but i didn't like i didn't understand gas i didn't understand
really anything so i sent an email to like the ceo of argent i'm like what happened to my transaction
like it failed but you still charged me this is a scam like that beautiful
that's a really good entry i mean i think uh there's it feels like a lot of people are well
so that's a really good entry i mean i think uh there's it feels like a lot of people are
it makes sense honestly because like a lot of people join either um a lot of people join the
beginning of covid you know being locked at home and just you know seeing what's going on and
hearing about crypto boom and everything and a lot of people joined also in the 2017 uh bubble in the
previous two cycles ago um and then there's
doji's and everything but I feel like honestly the best and most exciting time to join crypto
was probably in in the DeFi summer that was a super insane time like actually a bunch of new
you know new things coming out because I remember myself back in like 2016, 2017,
and we were all hyped because prices were going higher
and we were like, oh my God,
we're making so much money and everything.
But then in 2020, it was like, oh, this, these things,
you know, it's interesting.
Like it became interesting to me, at least.
It felt way, you know, it actually for once felt like
a future of finance, you know? Yeah, Yam felt like a future of finance you know yeah yam felt like the future
of finance to me i mean that was a joke yeah yeah i was but i was super excited about they got they
got they got hacked right it was like i just remembered the token became worthless within a day or something like that. Well, it was a rebase token.
I don't believe they might have got hacked like later on, but they, yeah, like a rebase.
And obviously I didn't really understand what a rebase meant.
So I lost a bit of money on that, but it was super exciting because it was like a food farm.
Like you could like stake your token and then you would get this other coin it was like holy shit this is
so cool and um yeah like this is around the time of the uniswap airdrop and i also found sushi swap
launching it's launched around the same time and that was really cool i thought that maki was like
the coolest guy he's, look at this guy.
He's like, he's making Hayden launch a token.
And of course, can't go without mentioning the king, Andre Cronje, YFI, was the token of the day.
I mean, I remember when the v stuff started happening um i i just remember opening
binance one day and i've seen they listed uh year in finance and it was like trading on like four
or five thousand dollars yeah and at that point it was already i think it was trading close to vtc
and my friend was like oh oh, what's that coin?
It's like the second most expensive coin.
I'm like, dude, some scam or something.
Why would you buy something that costs so much?
And I didn't even bother looking into it or anything.
And then we watched it go all the way to like 100 grand.
It's like fucking insane.
Good times. Yeah, De this summer was really fun honestly
kind of miss it um so i mean you you you found a space you started being active in it creating
content and you were pretty much um all in i guess like at what how long do you feel that it
took you to just you know start to get the hang
of things from just joining to you know through creating content and stuff like that and at what
point did you feel that okay i can actually do this for a living and like actually fully go into crypto
well i mean i don't know do it for a. I was always just doing it for a living.
I didn't have another job.
So I was kind of doing that anyway full time.
But yeah, I mean, as soon as I got interested in it, I haven't left. left what every day since i got into seriously researching crypto and bitcoin i mean
hasn't gotten a day since you know opening x reading some weird you know posting some video
at this point i've posted i don't know how many videos in a row like daily for years so you know
Yeah. Was there like any pivotal moment that made you realize you could just like,
okay, I'm going to stay in this and stick to this?
Well, I just got like, I mean, as soon as I, as soon as i started taking bitcoin seriously then i i was already like very interested in it and i wasn't like looking at anything else necessarily i mean um yeah even just from the very
very very beginning i was really interested in it because it hit a couple things that are, you know, for me really made a lot of sense.
Like, number one, it was kind of a very cool technology. Like just as a user, you know, I like,
you know, as a young kid, you always like new apps, right? I was like new apps on the app store.
I remember when the app store came out when I was 15. it was like very exciting oh you can use this app there's that app like with a beer like thing you can like drink the beer and
it was like and i could you know you could download city and you can jailbreak your phone so i was like
really interested in apps so when i found like ethereum especially you i was like oh wow these
are really cool apps that you can use. So that was one thing in technology.
But also I was always interested kind of in economics, like markets.
Even from a very young age, I would listen to this podcast called Econ Talk, which is one of the oldest podcasts, period.
Shout out to Russ Roberts.
He actually teaches in Jerusalem at the Hebrew University now. But
anyway, he's been doing this podcast for many, many years. And I listened as a young person
as well. And that's where I got a lot of my interest in markets. And crypto is, you know,
definitely a combination of these two things, technology and markets. And fact he had um you know Andre uh Antropoulos on that show you know
ages ago and I I heard about Bitcoin from the show but I didn't I didn't even like think twice
about it um until much later what anyway and do you trade perps at all or do you just stick to spot and d5 play like because i mean
you've mentioned a couple of times that just btc and ethan do you find stuff like that but do you
trade perps at all um recently no i last year i did like about a year and a half ago i did
pretty successfully um there was pretty i guess the first phase of the bull market
it was pretty easy just going long i got lucky going long there um but then
you know actually i had this in my mind i didn't end up using hyperliquid because
there was another uh platform uh evo if you're familiar. And I was like, oh, I'm going to use Evo and I'm going to get the Evo airdrop.
I don't need to worry about this hyper liquid airdrop.
Anyway, but I got I got that.
I got a heart for I got the heart really airdrop and I think I sold it
the first day for like it's like five dollars or something
sick I'm looking for my linea
airdrop that will be juicy
I'm praying to Joe Lubin every night
but to answer your question
and then I put some money in hyper liquid and got
like beautiful end of my...
So you don't really trade perps nowadays.
You just like you used to, and you're probably going to do it in the future again, but not now yet.
Perps are really stressful, and I'm not very good at it.
I mean, you know what the thing is um
from my experience of talking with people who are not regularly trading perps i feel like they just
are attracted to too much leverage too quickly yeah um because like you know people who never
trade perps they're like oh i can trade with 100x I'll go conservative I'll do like 20 X and then they just go full-size in yeah and they think oh it's
not even a lot of leverage but that's like a shitload of leverage you know
like personally I I start sweating if I'm like 3x right you know I don't I
rarely go above like 1.5 or 2x which sounds really like wow that's really yeah
i would say yeah yeah but i mean i i i mean i i just don't need so much leverage yeah and uh so
yeah i feel like this is one of the biggest things and i don't know is it would you say
that's the case with you as well where you just like jumped in with too much leverage?
Obviously, when you get liquidated, then yeah, obviously it wasn't.
It starts to take too much time.
Like all of a sudden, like the best way to trade perps for me
would be to just like you set an entry and you set an exit and you
just leave it what ends up happening is i you like start staring at the screen and that's that's bad
because it's also a waste of time and also you lose money yeah we joked about it with our friends on the timeline a couple of days ago.
You open a multi-week swing long, and then you end up watching it on the five-minute time frame.
That's a really bad habit that I got to stay away from.
Just like you just waste a ton of time.
Like it's not productive.
You're just sitting there looking at the ticks.
But yeah, would you say that if anyone like if any of your friends and stuff like that
come into crypto, would you tell them to stay away from trading with leverage?
Oh, no, because I actually think that one of the first things I ever did in crypto was trade
But I think that you need to try it to experience it.
I obviously don't think that you should put in...
But don't expect to make money.
This is not your new job.
I wanted to ask if you can share any of your just significant mistakes
or just general challenges that you've had in your early days of being on chain,
being involved with crypto, or with trading as well.
What do you feel were the most significant ones and
how did you overcome them I think that so I mean being on chain is
I think one of the worst ones that for me that I ever got hit with was like
it was called like shared stake it was like eth staking but it was like a long time ago
very early on and um i got they i got rugged on it but i also got rugged like um
it wasn't only on chain it was just because they also i had a call with them and they and i got
anyway i ended up losing a lot on that and i feel like the big lesson that i learned from that is
it's not only you know understanding the protocol it's like also understanding the people behind
the protocol so understanding the projects that you're working with um understanding the projects
you're investing with is super important like we we see like, for example, you see two tokens on chain, you see like whatever shit
coin three, four or five, and you see hyper liquid, right? You see them both, both those tickers exist,
but they're fundamentally different. Like hyper liquid has a team, whatever. I'm just using these
examples, but you know, this token has a a team there are actually people working on it where this token was made five minutes ago and it was just like appeared um
understand that there's a difference between them even though they're right next to each
other in deck screener like it's kind of hard actually yeah see it's just like gathering
experience to just avoid it or do you feel like there's some kind of like necessary steps to take to get away from it?
I think that spend time talking to people, spend time understanding like, you know, what people are working on, what their motivations are.
Like, because like if you see it, like you could see two tokens that are down 90 percent.
But if there's actually a team that is working, that has a project project that is like actually delivering then maybe that's token is undervalued or maybe you
can you know work with them and you know do a commercial for them or whatever it is i'm just
i'm just putting it out there but the thing is like
there there are real people here Everyone is behind a cartoon profile,
but I feel like we forget that there's actually real people
that care about their projects behind the scenes.
Some people obviously are just scammers.
And understanding those differences is super important.
And from your experience of being on just just on crypto twitter and just interacting with people
i actually wanted to ask first of all do you think that being on ct is almost kind of like a must
thing to do if you're into crypto i think that it lost a lot, actually, recently in the last couple of years. I think it was much more important.
I think to some extent, yes.
I think that you can be like even take Kobe, for example.
He's not super active on the timeline, but I'm sure he's doing a lot of things like off the timeline that are you know important
right um so in the same way i think that a lot of stuff is happening on telegram you know and you
just don't see it so you don't necessarily need to be as much um i feel like the main benefit of ct
I feel like the main benefit of CT when I first joined was the information,
like getting really good information from, you know,
people that really understand what is going on.
Now I feel that a lot of that is lost.
Even I think I joined, yeah thought yeah i joined ct around
uh the time when the covet happened um and cd was so different i i don't even know how to explain it
to people who come like who are talking right now to our in our talents and we're not around a couple
of years ago but cd was really just a gold mine like everyone was just sharing information
CT was really just a goldmine.
Like everyone was just sharing information.
Everyone really worked way more hand-in-hand kind of thing.
You know, like trying to help each other and not just be, you know, pessimistic, negative, and like being salty all the time.
Well, you don't have to take it that far.
But, I mean, you can even see it in my own
content where I, when I started, I started a lot about education.
I was doing a lot of tutorials explaining how different projects like apps work.
Like I was talking about urine, like how did they, how do you get the yield on that die
that you put into the die vault?
But obviously now what I do is a lot less focused on education and it's more
entertaining. So you can see that's a natural progression
of crypto Twitter in many ways and my own posting.
Yeah, see, this definitely like shit posting heaven nowadays, which I don't,
And obviously I'm a part of the problem too.
It's just recognizing that it is different.
And I think that most people around now
weren't around when it was.
And also, I mean, one of the things,
I remember in Silico talking about it
where someone asked him like, hey, why don't you, you know,
keep on making educational content?
And he just said, because I already shared everything I could, right?
Like, there's nothing new under this hunt.
Everything I've shared is still actionable.
It's still the same info.
You can still use it to get better at trading, whatever.
And, you know, like, pretty much much I'm done type thing, you know?
But from your experience of just interacting with people on CT
and just, you know, people around you of the space,
what would you feel are the most reoccurring issues
that people, you know, getting involved on chain have and how
would you suggest for them solve them I think that I just think that it comes down to simple
things like wallets just hardware wallets how to access these things um I think it's gotten a lot better obviously in the past,
this year, let's say since 2025. But I really liked some of these new apps that we have,
like even the trading bots, not trading bots,
like trading apps like Axiom,
or I invested in one, it's called Nebula,
which will come out of Alpha soon. But more and more tools actually to access the chain.
even something like Rabi coming along is,
I feel a much bigger upgrade over previous like ways that you would have to
Like for people like myself would don't know how to like
like i wouldn't know what i'm signing and stuff like that and like rabbi changed everything for
me yeah 100 so those are some of the problems that you know still exist for sure but i think
that are you know being solved through stuff like rabbi and these other apps yeah um and i was wondering how you like i want to transition a little bit
away from that and ask you about just since you joined the space obviously it was you know i mean
i'm sure you can agree with me that crypto is a very very hardcore emotional roller coaster at
times right um how do you manage the psychological aspect
of just being in the space?
You know, just dealing with the stress
of, you know, having positions open
or just, you know, maintaining discipline
during volatility or just challenging periods,
bear markets and stuff like that.
How do you handle all that?
I think exercise is definitely a big part of it. um how do you handle all that
i think exercise is definitely a big part of it i post a lot exercising um yeah you lost a lot of weight dude good job thank you it's awesome to see um yeah it's it's not only to lose weight it's also
um that's how to to feel good like this morning i did a nice run um felt good yesterday had a
long drive i'm in the keys right now um so did a long drive yesterday to get here didn't feel as
good right but as soon as you get out exercise sweat a little bit it makes things a lot easier. So that's definitely a big part of how I cope with
this stuff. But yeah, it is it is difficult. And you just have to you just have to continually
take profit continually, you know, send money to the bank and meditate, breathe, exercise.
I journal very frequently.
Yeah, so all these things.
I think that it's not different than anything else in life.
If you had a different type of job or whatever,
you would still have to use the same similar tools.
I don't think there's anything necessarily unique about crypto,
but you get what I'm saying.
Yeah, journaling is massive.
I journal every single day.
And I do more of a, like, emotional journal type thing.
You know, I just write my thoughts and stuff like that.
I mean, I used to journal everything do in in my trading and stuff like
that i don't do that anymore but just having a you know emotional journal is massive so uh
it's good to hear you doing that as well um you mentioned cashing out regularly and i was wondering
what would you say is your um is your cashing out model,
if we could call it that way?
Like how do you decide when you cash out
and how much and stuff like that?
I just try to do a set amount on a monthly basis.
I don't have a set formula or anything, but at the end of the day, I have
expenses, I got cover. So I know I have to transfer an amount to the bank to make the
payments. So, you know, that's just what it's based on. It's not anything.
It's like basically just cashing out some sort of salary every single month almost yeah yeah pretty much yeah all right there we go um and do you think on chain activity is
going to like on chain activity volume all of that Do you think they're going to keep growing? Because we've had a huge transition to just trading on chain in the last two years, approximately
We see perp dexes and just on chain exchanges becoming massive.
And to the point where, as a trader, I'm looking at open interest sometimes and you see that
they're like 30, 40% of all open interest in volumes. Um, do you see this trend continuing
or like, do you actually think that we will see, um, you know, on-chain activity surpass
centralized venues at some point? A hundred percent percent i personally almost never have even ever traded on a sex
like literally oh really maybe five times literally so i i don't even i i primarily use it just to
offer i don't trade on it yeah i sometimes no it's just up for offer I don't even know I don't I don't
try any centralized exchange at all like I have like maybe one or two trades in the past but like
I don't see any reason to I personally don't have any benefit like I said I I got onboarded into
crypto through ethereum so I've been on chain the entire time um yeah so yeah 100 it's just on chain is is it's much
more transparent it works it's cheaper it just makes sense yeah i mean like you said there's
no benefit like i was thinking about it recently about how almost every single venue on chain nowadays gives you some kind of uh reward
you know many of them have points programs many of them just give you rewards like for example if
you trade on kuma you can you literally get a piece of a i think it's like 25 2 000 a day that
we give out to our traders um and it's just added on top of really much the same functionality right um so yeah
you're literally losing nothing and only gaining so i i also i agree i don't see a reason to really
stick to centralized venues too much no and it's easier also there, there's no login. You can just connect your wallet and that's it.
Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest issue most people have is just the idea of holding your own keys, right?
Because there's the meme of not your keys, not your coins, but sometimes for for some people it's better for them not to
you know self-custody yeah um i think that i mean i'd certainly self-custody i don't know
i don't think it's such a big deal i mean use a hardware wallet and write down the c phrases i mean
hardware wallet and write down the C phrases.
I mean, it's not rocket science, but yeah,
have a balance if you want to.
I think that the big problem is, you know,
how you transfer that to like family.
But again, I think these things will get solved.
It's more like a user experience type issue.
Because when we talk about it,
I've read a couple of surveys
and just a bunch of people on forums,
like on Reddit and 4chan and stuff like that.
And the most reoccurring worry, I would say,
is literally just this. what if i lose this piece
of paper what if i lose this hardware wallet what happens if like you know and all those things and
a lot of people like a huge number of people just prefers to like yeah i'll just give it to like
you know coinbase finance whatever that is and you know
for them it's the same functionality um do you think we've seen in the last five years an
improvement in in you know just the user interface and just the user experience of uh of you know
just having your own keys and and maintaining them Yeah, of course. We have the whole concept of social logins,
which are relatively new.
Like there are ways to back it up,
back up your keys if you really are that worried.
Like Zengo, for example, is even argent we mentioned before they have you have social
recover functionality so you can use someone else's uh wallet to you know or yours or you
can use your email stuff like that so i definitely think it's improving and it's also going to improve.
And like, you know, you're saying like they're saying, OK, let me give it to Coinbase.
But is that actually a good solution?
Because Coinbase has problems, too.
There's many people that can't access their account on Coinbase.
So, you know, that's classic.
Like, I mean, so just to say I'm going to lose this piece of paper.
Well, OK, What's alternative?
Everything has pros and cons. I mean just yeah have some balance of both
Yeah, I mean one one huge thing that
For example, we implemented in Kuma that I really enjoy and like is that when you log in with your wallet
It gives you the option to stay logged in for,
I think it's like a month.
And then basically besides withdrawing and depositing
all the functionality in the website is signature-less.
So you don't need to constantly have your wallet on you,
You can connect via mobile
and it stays connected for a whole month.
And I wish more things on chain did that, honestly.
Anyway, I did an ad with DeFi app maybe last month,
really good like social login type thing you can log in with your email or twitter
um or your wallet and it opens up like the smart wallet and you can trade there and on office like they even have hyper liquid and stuff that. But yeah, there's tons of things that make it super easy to access.
And it doesn't have to be an ooga-booga seed phrase monster.
Well, I'm sure some of our listeners are probably not fully on-chain
or don't really even have on-chain experience because I feel like nowadays it's either
people mostly stay on centralized exchanges and some exposure
to meme coins on Solana, but you don't really see that many people
being actually active on-chain on EVMs
and stuff like that. So if someone is trying to
get more exposure and just dip their feet into it, how would you suggest them to start?
And just what overall tips would you give them?
I would say there's tons of apps.
Like, I don't think that you necessarily need to use.
It does feel like a little bit advanced actually using the chain.
I actually I'll just OX Maki launched this like NFT lending protocol called Hieroglyph.
protocol called hieroglyph and i
deposit like it was the most complicated on chain onboarding process i have ever experienced you had
to you had to wrap your nft and then you had to inscribe it but in order to inscribe it you had to
buy a certain token and that token was in a certain
balance or liquidity pool and you could inscribe it with a bunch of different NFTs.
Like it was like, this is crazy.
Like so, but it reminded me of the old days, which was kind of fun.
So if you want to do that, you can.
And that kind of, it's like kind of like a treasure hunt.
You can. And it's kind of like a treasure hunt. You can.
But I think that the best way to do it actually is just like I said, just use these apps.
Like you can use Kuma as much.
You can just easily log in, use it from your phone.
Like I said, DeFi app is easy to use.
Even Zora, people are dunking on Zora.
But I mean, it is on chain like if you just want to if you're
a super beginner and you've never used crypto at all like why not use something like that
yeah there you go I mean yeah honestly nowadays the like you mentioned like the the whole reminded
me of the good old days um every time I look back to like 2020 2021
on experience was horrible like compared to what we have today um it was so bad like with
MetaMask and how you had to add every single token manually and stuff like that do you remember that
that was a um that was a solid wallet yeah all of them it's just horrible and uh yeah i mean nowadays
just having you know websites adding like long time logins uh via via wallet um you know products
like rabba or like rabbi who are really just a game changer and everything that has to do with
like you know because before rabbi i usedMask, you know, that was like,
cooking on a campfire to,
using an oven and a stove.
I have two more topics I want to discuss with you.
And before we go to that, I want to remind everyone,
if anyone has any questions or anything like that,
you can click on the bottom right corner and leave those questions.
We'll touch on them in a couple of minutes.
But you're super active on CT.
Like you said, you were making daily content and just the memes,
the videos and stuff like that.
What do you think makes crypto so silly, you could say,
where all the big and prominent figures
are actually amazing and frequent shit posters
compared to TradFi or any other space,
In crypto, it really is just a lot of like fun and funny and games
and memes and stuff like that.
What do you think makes it that?
I think crypto is very authentic because it's very transparent.
So people need to be authentic and transparent.
And most people are relaxed jokesters in trad fi there's a lot of stuff
that is going on behind closed doors there's also in crypto but i feel like the successful people
in crypto a lot of the stuff is done on chain it's in public people know what's going on
so in that way i think it's it's kind of that personality that authentic personality that comes out i think
yeah that actually makes sense and um yeah like the often like the that makes sense like the
fact that it's authentic and everything also i feel it's just you know do you think it has anything
to do with the fact that most of us are just a you know a bunch of like young relatively young people just you know sitting
on our computers and playing with internet money that barely feels real sometimes right
yeah definitely the fact that a lot of this is taking place on social media and
is taking place on social media and a big part of what drives value to the coins is social media
so people who are good at social media also are good at the coins right it goes together yeah
yeah it makes sense um i wanted to ask you as well what tips would you give the younger self
five years ago coming into crypto?
What advice or tips would you give him?
Man, I knew nothing five years ago. I would just say have an open mind to anything.
It's very easy to be, you know, let's just take a classic example, Bitcoin maxi.
And you're saying everything else is trash.
Bitcoin is the only good thing.
And there's many, many variations of this type.
You can be an ETH maxi, you could say.
And an ETH maxi says Solana is trash.
And the Solana maxi says that Sui is trash.
And the Sui maxi says that Avax is trash.
And there are many apps, and there's an infinite amount of change,
and there's infinite opportunity out there.
So, you know, try things out.
Even if last week you thought it was a scam, maybe it wasn't a scam.
Well, first of all, you're Jewish as me.
And how do you avoid this Jewish skepticism that we all naturally have within us?
You're saying staying open-minded.
I think, for me, it's really hard to be open-minded.
Every time I see all those new projects that look like a Ponzi
or new meme coins that I know that are heavily sniped
and heavily allocated between friends and stuff like that,
I find it sometimes to be really hard to be open-minded, like you say.
What's your trick to avoid this jewish skepticism
um i mean it's fine to be like it's fine to think that things are scams i mean it makes sense most
things in crypto are scams so just know that you can know that but i mean i don't i don't think
what i mean by open mind doesn't mean you have to like accept every project and think that every project is great. I just think that many times, if I feel like I've missed certain opportunities, because I felt a certain way about a project, a coin, an ecosystem where in fact, no, it's actually fine.
And it's kind of like what I was saying earlier, where you have two coins that are both on deck screener, but they actually are completely different.
So trying to understand that and trying to, know work your way through that that's part of
the work right if it was so obvious then well everyone would get in a thousand x you know what
i'm saying yeah yeah yeah okay i see what you mean um well the last question i have for you
uh before we can get a little bit of a topic and just chat randomly if you feel like it.
Gabriel, what do you feel, what do you believe making it is?
And do you feel like you've made it?
Every day you got to make it a little bit harder.
I think peace of mind, feeling good, health, having a family, having enough things to take care of your needs.
And I'll make it again tomorrow.
So you feel like it's a step-by-step thing, like every day you're trying to make it, that thing?
I don't know i feel like in order life requires maintenance right is there yeah okay mike o'hearn has he yeah i i made it i've got big enough muscles that ain't how it works buddy he still's gotta go
to the gym even after he's got the muscles making it as a process just like being happy like if i
don't go out and exercise i will not have made it that day i'm gonna be in a bad mood. I'm going to be upset about shit. So that's it.
Well, I actually agree. I think
process. It's something that you have to keep
almost, like, keep alive, basically.
You must keep the water warm.
Yeah. Well, yeah, basically you know what i mean you must keep the water warm yeah um well yeah that's pretty much it we don't have any questions from the audience i guess they're a little shy today um i see we
have kane in the audience shout out to kane um well gabriel is there anything else you want to add
what do i want to add what do you I want to add? What are you into?
What are you doing these days?
I have a couple of days, a little bit less active days.
I have a bunch of friends coming over to visit because it's like a group.
We have a friend who has his birthday, so celebrating with him.
Yeah, we rented bikes, so I'm riding around on a motorcycle all day long.
Kind of like ignoring prices.
Not really opening Twitter much.
But yeah, all of that ends on Sunday.
So I'll be fully back on Sunday.
Back to watching the five-minute chart, man.
Back to our clinical depression called the job not kidding um yeah just
back on being back to shit posting and just i mean the thing i do um is just you know i have
like i wake up i look at charts i'll define the areas i'm interested in and i'll just sit and you
know watch a movie or watch a lecture that is interesting to me or read a book
or play some video games and all of that is you know next to the computer and i'll just wait until
something interesting happens uh you know if i feel like it'll research something new if if i'm
lazy i'll just play video games all day uh and that's literally my daily routine. Besides walking my dog, eating, and going to the gym or martial arts,
this is all I do every single day, all day long.
I really enjoy just shitposting with friends all day long
while I'm waiting for the market to do something.
Life of a trader. life of a pawn trader
yeah so not uh not the most exciting thing um no uh no other huge things what about you man
what are you up to nowadays well well i got a family so i'm not sitting playing video games
right you have you have you have like like a two-year-old, right?
So no video games for me.
I mean, you can play video games, right?
You probably can't find the time.
You just prefer to just be with the kids, I guess.
Actually, not huge into video games, right? You probably can't find the time. You just prefer to just be with the kids, I guess. Actually, not huge into video games.
I was more into computer games growing up, and I had a Game Boy.
But I never had a PlayStation or anything.
I used to go to my friend's house, play on that GameCube.
Mario in your podcast anymore.
four year old in my presence
fun age to be a parent of
they said you're on the editing list what no fun age to be a parent of. Oh, who's at the door?
They said you're on the Epstein list?
The Epstein list doesn't exist.
is in it, it was planted by the Democrats basically.
And now they're on the empty list.
Before they take the space down.
It's kind of funny because when the spaces are done uh we download a file and we kind
of use like ai magic to get a transcript and kind of like pick the best moments to make notes out of
and like and it'll be fun funny to see this in the transcript of the of the episode hitler
um well that's pretty much it for me, man.
You already added the extra stuff.
Yeah, Gabriel, thank you a lot for coming.
Really fun to get to know you a little bit better.
And to all of our listeners,
if you don't follow Gabriel,
make sure to give him a follow.
I think he is a fantastic addition to the timeline.
I only follow like 600 people because I honestly can't find interesting people to follow.
And Gabriel is one of you.
And I'm one of the people he follows.
I appreciate your work, Delkita.
shout out to kuma yeah shout out to we have your uh we i can see your bio has your address or like
your you know your your po box or whatever we'll try to hook you up some merch oh shit
there we go everyone uh everyone loves the merch the funniest thing that happened at that po box
is that i walked in and i saw the guy had a bunch of crypto stickers on his laptop, the guy that works there. I'm like, oh, you went to crypto? And
he's like, wait, do you have a Tesla? I'm like, yeah. He's like, no, that's you. I don't
believe it. That was hilarious.
It's kind of crazy. By the way, is there a reason you chose to be doxed?
I mean, I've always been doxed.
I was a video creator before.
Yeah, but when you joined Crypto Twitter, you had the choice to try to be anonymous, no?
Not really, because I was doing videos.
Oh, it was from the same profile, yeah?
Okay, I see. I see. videos oh it was from the same profile yeah yeah okay i see i see do you do you wish you could have been anonymous or do you feel like that's like it's it's a part of your image and like
you know no i think for my style doesn't really make sense um yeah so i i get like other people are just better tweeters than i am
i don't know how to do that sometimes i can do a good video but the text just plain text because i
just i'm so used to the video at this point yeah well i mean you have the experience so many years i uh i actually thought of doxing not long ago
but uh but yeah i mean what's the benefit like yeah exactly uh because we had uh i had an idea
of like trying this like video format uh especially when we were talking about it with my uh with my kuma friends
and um and yeah i don't think i'm ready for it not yet you should get a maybe something
like a waifu like you should animate your pfp actually yeah that's how do you call it the VTubers right CL has one yeah I'll
do that and then I'll just start an ASMR livestream this this will be a yeah well that's really pretty much it from me guys um and yeah gabriel again huge shout out to
you thank you so much for coming man no problem um and yeah uh see you on the timeline and yeah
to all of our listeners thanks for coming um and again uh notes will be available
on monday on my profile if you've missed anything um and once this episode is over there will be a
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yeah guy barrel again thanks a lot for coming kuma thank you manual thank you
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