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Spin Up Validators in a Few Clicks. Meet CIDT & TradeVibe
Recorded: Sept. 2, 2025 Duration: 0:39:09Space Recording
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Thank you. Thank you. Hi, everyone.
Welcome to the space.
We're going to give everyone a couple of minutes,
and then we're going to join and start. hello hope you guys can hear me loud and clear.
Perfect, yes.
That's wonderful. Thank you. Hello. Hello, hello. Hey, Eugene.
Hello, everyone.
How are you doing, Eugene?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Hello, everyone.
How are you doing, Eugene?
Doing great.
Really excited about today's meetup.
Definitely.
Really happy to have you.
It's been a long time to work.
Really happy to show the world what we and you have been working on.
That's right.
We can just wait a few more minutes for the people to join and then we can start off. Thank you. All right, so I think we can get started.
So yeah, first of all, thank you everybody for joining.
Also, thank you to our partners from CRDT
for joining this wonderful space.
Just to give a bit of a background what we're talking about here.
So today, as a guest, we have our infrastructure and development partner, CRDT,
Consider it Done Technologies, for some discussions on blockchain validators as well as services for blockchain validators.
And we're also taking a little sneak peek at TradeVibe,
which is a SaaS platform run by CRDT.
On your blockchain, it lets you spin up validator nodes
in only a few clicks while still keeping your validator case
safe and secure in your wallet.
So, all right, just I think to get a bit started
into the whole discussion here, let's just talk a bit about why blockchain validators actually matter, right?
So I think from my perspective personally, I see blockchain validators, it's really, really hard to ensure consensus for your network, to ensure a proper uptime, to ensure the security of your network.
So yeah, just to sum it up, without healthy validators, the network definitely suffers.
Every blockchain suffers without healthy validators, right?
So that directly brings to the conclusion, okay, every blockchain should have as many validators as possible.
And for most blockchains, this is also the case that the people of the community actually
want to join the network and want to run their own validator node and help to secure their
favorite blockchain.
But when it comes to running your own validator nodes, I think there's a huge set of potential
technical problems that can appear, right?
So I can just tell it from my own experience right so a few years back back in the days i was just a computer science student just
getting started with everything coding and infrastructure um back then i was already a
blockchain fan so to say enthusiast and actually for a few networks i actually tried out to run my
first own validator nodes and i gotta say, the variety of technical challenges that
arose there was quite significant.
So yeah, I think everybody in here
who has already got into touch with this
can tell you way more about this.
So yeah, when you want to run your own ValData node,
there's a lot of technical challenges that come up.
You have to set up your own cloud server
or your own self-hosted server, for example,
on AWS or Google Cloud, whatever cloud provider.
Then you basically have to clone the code onto the server.
You have to run the node code.
You have to set up and secure your own validator keys.
Then once you finally manage to get this node up and running,
which can take actually a good amount of time,
then you have to make sure that it has continuous operations, you have to set up some monitoring.
Because in the end, if you do not ensure all of that, the most consensus protocols punish you with downtime penalties or even your funds could get slashed.
So the spectrum of what can go wrong from a technical perspective when running your own value node is actually huge. And in my opinion,
this is a huge barrier of entry for all of the
maybe not so technical community members of a blockchain ecosystem that want to join
and want to actively contribute just by having this huge barrier of entry
makes it, yeah, most of the times even
close to impossible for them to join the network as a validator.
Right. And this is exactly where our today's talks now comes into play.
What we're going to talk about.
So, yeah, just to give everyone a bit of context,
consider it done, it has been our, yeah, trusted infrastructure and technology development partner
for the last couple of years.
And then a few months back when we launched Neural Mainnet, I approached Eugene and the
other guys from CADT and told them, hey, wouldn't there be some kind of service that maybe you
guys can offer to make it easier for our community members to run their own value
and those, right?
And then CADT was quite open for that.
We got into discussions and then eugene came up
with a how i think very amazing idea um which has now crystallized into the name of of trade vibe
um and yeah with that eugene i would like to give the word to you um so you maybe can present the
wonderful ideas you guys um came up with back then um and yeah where we are right now and what what
the idea behind all of that is.
Yeah great thank you so much just want to make sure everybody can hear me fine.
Loud and clear.
Excellent so thank you so much for the introduction just a quick background again my name is Eugene Fine and I'm a CEO founder of Consider It On Technology CIDT short just to give you a little
bit of a background we've been working since 2016.
We started our organization specifically
to focus on the blockchain technologies
and to drive innovation in that space.
We've been specialized in full cycle
Web3 implementation development,
working with a variety of networks,
and Aneena had been our focus for the past year.
We work on helping the Anina to
create the right infrastructure for the validator nodes, for operations, for development of the
improvement proposals, and we'll discuss one of them today as part of our discussion validators.
And we have a large team that focuses on blockchain development,
a variety of different ways.
So there's just a little bit of a background.
Happy to provide more details.
You can always find our information on our website, considerdun.tech.
Okay.
So when it comes to the validator notes, as we just talked about,
there's quite a bit of technical complexity associated with running the infrastructure, managing the hosting environment implication of the GDPR compliance and ISO compliance that's required on the technical side.
The environment that needs to have a specific service layer agreement and uptime availability.
And of course, all the other components associated with managing the validator nodes, including resilience, uptime, and security.
So we perform things like penetration testing to ensure the security components in there.
We make sure that we use KMS solution, key management solution to secure the keys in an appropriate way, in a secure way.
And we're also implementing a number of features to make it easier for the validators to delegate the technical management of the validators to a third party, whatever that might be.
It might be a trade-wide, it might be somebody else.
So there's a couple of things that are important to discuss from that perspective.
One of the things that, one of the first things that we've done in order to ensure the proper
way of managing validator hosts by the third party is we proposed an enhancement proposal,
we proposed an enhancement proposal, or IOP, for introduction of the operator keys.
So a good example of that would be, if you're familiar with the polka dots stash controller key structure,
this is very similar to that idea.
The whole idea behind that is that it's essentially similar to, you know, delegated security control.
So the owner of the validator key has a full control of the validator node.
And, of course, can perform all the technical operations, stake, bond, you know, withdraw rewards.
But if the technical expertise needs to be delegated to
the third party, what we've done is we introduced the concept of the operator key. So that's
essentially a way for a validator to issue a limited authority to the third party that's
responsible exclusively for technical operations. So that would be a limited access to the node
technical operations. So that would be a limited access to the note with the delegated authority
to only be able to manage the already deposited stake in terms of bonding and applying it and
managing the validator note, but no ability to withdraw or deposit the funds. That capability remains exclusively within the validator owner
or specifically within the organization or individual
who possesses the validator key,
which is the actual address account that holds the stake,
the wallet address.
So with this operator key, an organization like CIDT that manages technical complexity
can operate the node without taking control or custody of the actual fund.
So it's a process that allows the operators not to take control of the custody, and therefore there is no necessary trust there.
So it's a trustless operation process where the validated owners and the individual that podests and owns the validated key retains full custody of the funds while delegating ability to manage and operate the node to a third part.
So that was the basis for enhancement for the improvement proposal that we submitted to Aneano that's been approved and now it's in development.
So that's getting released this month.
And on top of that, capabilities, we're building the TradeVibe platform that will allow for folks to delegate technical complexity of managing nodes to a TradeVibe application while still retaining full business ownership of the validator note
and all the custody of the funds that's staked on it.
So I'm going to pause right here before I go into more details specifically of the TradeVibe
and the vision behind that.
I just wanted to pause to open for any questions related to the enhancement that we're doing to the platform or background about CIDT that's implementing this.
Thank you so much for the explanations, Eugene.
Appreciate it.
I think that was a very nice rundown on what you guys have been working on and what's up to come for Nino Mainnet.
Yeah, basically, we'll just give people some time to ask questions in case you have a question?
Just feel free to raise your hand.
I just want to highlight again
how amazing that operator key feature is
that has been implemented
together with CIDT
and all of the possibilities it brings.
I think, Eugene,
you gave a very detailed summary,
but maybe how we can describe it
a bit more visual
for the not-so-technical people.
You can kind of imagine
a bit like that, right? Imagine you're so technical people you can kind of imagine a bit
like that right like uh imagine you're buying a multi-family house which is nice generates rent
and so on right um and usually you would just have to go to the house yourself you would have
to check if everything's all right you would have to clean the stair houses you would check
with the tenants and so on right and um this would be like the in my metaphor here this would be basically
running your value note yourself right with your own private keys and what we're doing now with
the operator key feature by CADT would basically be that you just hire a janitor right that takes
care for all of all of that nasty annoying stuff for right? And taking care of the house, running operations,
making sure everything is still all right and as it should be.
But you're not giving away the actual ownership of the house, right?
You're just giving away the right, so to say, to maintain and operate
and keep the whole thing up and running to somebody else.
But you will not never lose your true actual ownership of the private keys
or in a metaphor, the house that is behind it.
So yeah, I think that's a very important aspect to highlight this, because in my opinion,
this operator key feature, Deva, enables kind of a best of both worlds situation, right? Because
usually, if you would give somebody else the custody to run your value note on your behalf,
you would also give away the ownership rights of your keys, right?
You would have to give out your keys and would have to trust people to take custody, right?
Then on the other hand, we have the fully self-hosted solution
where you run and own everything fully on your own.
But as you mentioned wonderfully, Eugene, this comes with a lot of technical complexity.
And right now, I think we have a solution that combines the best of both worlds, right, using your operator keys.
You can still keep the ownership of your actual keys and your funds, but you can delegate the stressful node operations to somebody else, to fear the key systems in that case.
So, yeah, I think this is a very, very amazing step forward and a very cool new concept that allows for, yeah,
basically easily becoming a validator
of your favorite blockchain,
in this case, on Nino,
but without having to sacrifice
true decentralization and ownership.
That's right.
Without going into, you know,
retaining the trustless relationship
with an operator,
which is what you want to have
in the blockchain space.
Exactly. Exactly. Definitely.
So, yeah, Eugene, maybe you can just elaborate a little bit more.
I'm sure in the future we can also support a bit of screenshots or mock-up previews that maybe we can share on our channels.
But yeah, for now, maybe just can you give our listeners a quick update on how exactly the process would look like when running a valid note on a Nino with Tradewipe?
With pleasure. Thank you so much.
So Tradewipe is the combination of all of the development effort that we've done to allow for an easy staking for individuals that don't have a strong technical expertise.
for individuals that don't have a strong technical expertise.
With Tradewipe platform, you'll be able to sign up,
log in and start creating validators
through a simple easy to use interface.
And you can go to our site, tradewipe.app
to see some more details and we'll share more screenshots
as this product is being developed and getting ready for the release within the next months or so.
platform capabilities with a straightforward capability to stake and generate validators
on a NINA network. That is the primary focus. You will have the dashboard available to you
where you can create the validators, spin them up, view the details about the rewards that it's generating,
withdraw those rewards, stop the validators, create new ones,
the full management capabilities, and, of course, all the reporting
and dashboards that are associated with understanding
of what kind of rewards you're generating and will be generating.
The only requirements that you will have is, of course,
you will have business requirements associated with joining the Anya Network,
which means that you'll have to go through the KYB process to spin up, you know, to own your own validator node.
There might be some limitations, some simpler features in the future, I'll talk about in just a second.
And then, of course, you need to possess enough tokens for the validator stakes associated with the
requirements for running the validator.
So this is the initial step, and this is what we are starting with.
But it's also important to understand where we're going and the feature that we'll be
implementing as this platform continues to evolve.
So we have a full roadmap that associated with the evolution of this platform.
And of course, the next thing that we would like to be able to offer is the delegated
staking.
So the baseline staking, which is running the validator nodes, requires a set amount.
You are basically operating your own validator nodes, right?
So it requires a minimum required amount for staking,
requires the KYB process, so on and so forth.
The technical complexity is, of course, handled by the trade one.
But then, as you probably can imagine,
the delegation capabilities is something that requires even less
in order to get started. It requires a much less
amount of ownership of the ONI in order to be able to do that and so on and so forth.
So that is certainly the next feature that we'll be focused on. And of course,
it will be working very closely with any network to prioritize the roadmap. So this hasn't been fully set in stone. But this is definitely part of the vision of what we're thinking is be able to offer delegated staking as the next set of features.
part of the name that we've designed for this platform, TradeVibe,
there's a lot more that we're planning to introduce.
And we'll continue to work with Anino, a foundation,
in order to be able to establish what other DeFi services
we would like to onboard and make it available and accessible
through the TradeVibe platform, as well as the other channels.
You know, is it lending borrowing protocols, similar to Aave, and so on and so forth?
We will be prioritizing and working with Dynino to determine
what are the different DeFi protocols and financial instruments
that we want to expose to our users through the TradeLive platform.
And then finally, to culminate it is an ability to automate the processes associated with all these different services services into automated executable functions like bots, and they have strategies that can be designed in chat conversation format with the platform. platform, right? So basically using LLM in order to be able to really streamline the automation
process and integrations between all these different services that will be part of the
TradeBy platform.
Wonderful. And I think I can really honestly say here, I think this is a really, really
amazing vision that Eugene and his colleagues from CIDT are pursuing here.
I mean, you just have to imagine the possibilities, what you can do, right?
Like before, you could just maybe go to some DeFi services, connect to like 10 different apps,
and yeah, do a little bit of DeFi work here and there.
Running a value note before was quite impossible.
But what you can do right now with, or like in the future with,
as I just have to make this really clear,
this is just like a future vision right now.
But what you will be able to do, just imagine it, right?
You go to Trade Vibe, you sign in there.
You already have your value note running there
that you have configured with just a few clicks
without any technical hustles.
And then you just have a quick chat with the built-in AI
and just tell it, hey, why don't we do it like that?
You just take my rewards I get from running the validator and put half of that in our landing
protocol and for the rest you buy token xyz right and then that's right that as a strategy is so to
say automated right and i think this is a a super cool cool idea that um even extends this um making
blockchain validation accessible by another notion, by
another layer, by actually even making DeFi and trading and all of the other complex strategies
that allow you to earn some yield here, making this also accessible by integrating AI as
well.
So I think this is a really, really amazing vision that you guys are pursuing here.
And yeah, I'm really personally really really happy to
everything that's coming down the road and to see where it goes with TradeVib. So yeah, wonderful, great stuff ahead. Yeah, Eugene, just maybe another question for our community members here,
so they can make themselves a more clear picture. How would actually the whole business side of
things look for TradeVib? So say for example, I'm an only new community member, I would actually the whole business side of things look for TradeVive? So say, for example, I'm an only new community member.
I would like to run my node easily via TradeVive.
Like, how would exactly would it look like?
Would I pay like tons of money to you guys in a one-time payment?
Or how would that work exactly?
Just to give people a quick overview.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So, of course, this is the hosting service at the end of the day, or validator as a service. And there's going to be a subscription fee associated with it. There's a one-time fee that's set up, and then there's going is established right now. And that's very much in line with the industry standards in terms of how we're approaching this. expose as many DeFi services to an inner community without technical complexity.
That's our primary goal.
And minimize the cost of the hosting as much as possible.
So the pricing component is something that we'll continue optimizing over time and scale and reduce it as we continue to scale.
There are two tiers of pricing that will be offered initially,
the starter tier and the pro tier, and the variance between them is primarily
around support capabilities. We wanted to make sure that for our institutional clients and for
folks that require more immediate support and a hands-on support with a dedicated support person,
more immediate support and a hands-on support with a dedicated support person, we offer that
extra layer of service. But of course, the intent is to make it as intuitive and self-managed as
possible, and the starter tier or baseline tier should be able to cover that. And support will
be offered within that tier as well, except it will be slightly limited through email
and within the 24-hour response time.
But still, of course, within reasonable timeframe
to resolve any issues that might come up
during setup and operations.
Amazing, wonderful.
So simply speaking, we could just say
we have a full White Love service here, right?
Yes, that's definitely what we're driving towards,
to establish that process that we can support immediately folks that require that.
I think that is very wonderfully put how you said it, Eugene.
wonderfully put how you said it, Eugene.
Just to highlight that again,
Just to highlight that again,
before, we're now transitioning
from a very cumbersome process
of technical heavy lifting
for setting up your own node.
We're transitioning here
to a fully managed white glove service
that allows basically everyone
to easily participate
and run their own node here.
So yeah, just to spin up another analogy,
maybe you could just imagine a bit like that. Before before you just had to assemble your whole car yourself and once you finally got it
assembled after making an engineering degree and then you had to drive around all by yourself but
compared to to trade live now the equivalent would be to just get that you have your own personal
chauffeur where you can just who just picks you, just get in and get going without having to worry
about any technical hustles.
So yeah, I think this is very amazing.
And yeah, I just want to wrap up again
on what this exactly means for Onino as a blockchain
and how we see this new partnership with CADT.
So yeah, as I mentioned right at the start so just to become
full circle here having a large set of of trusted and professional validators is basically the
backbone of any stable network right because it just having more and more validators just
increase the security of the network of the consensus protocol it increases true decentralization
um and yeah for us at donino I think I can speak for all of us
that I can say that Trade Vibe
is basically a vehicle,
a tool that allows us
to scale up our network,
to scale up our validators
and thereby make the Onino network
increasingly decentralized
and secure over time
and also fully democratized
and truly decentralized
by allowing everyone
to easily participate and become one of the, in the future, huge set of values of the Nino mainnet.
So, yeah, I'm very excited for this.
And, yeah, I think, Eugene, maybe if you want to, you guys can also share some more materials.
Basically, people can join the waitlist for TradeWeb already.
And maybe our community members are also excited to see some more screenshots. Basically, people can join the wait list for TradeVib already.
And maybe our community members are also excited to see some more screenshots,
some mock-ups maybe, so they can make themselves a better picture.
And yeah, I think once you guys that are listening right now will see the first,
as I personally think, beautiful mock-ups and designs of how TradeVib is going to look like,
I'm sure you all will also love it and be as enthusiastic about it as I am.
Yes, absolutely.
I think we just need to figure out what's the best way to channel some of the screenshots that we can share.
We will continue updating our marketing site.
It's tradewide.app to provide some more details as they become available.
And of course, the wait list is open right now on the site.
And we'll be posting more details both in X channel
as well as on the site, the release dates,
and initial support capabilities.
Amazing. Wonderful.
So, yeah, that's a straight call to action for everybody listening in here.
If you guys like the talk, if you guys like the concept of TradeVive,
which I suppose you are,
then, yeah, there's just a couple of to-dos left here for you guys.
In case it's not already the case here.
Just follow and make sure to follow Onino.
Make sure to follow CRDT.
You can find that channel right in here,
and we're also going to post it on our channel later.
Make sure to follow both teams
and to always stay updated on the latest developments,
on the latest news on TradeVibe.
And, yeah, once Eugene and their team has posted it,
feel free to join the waitlist for TradeVibe
just so you're not missing anything
and you can be actually one of the very first
to use the service and run your own Onino mainnet note
with just a few clicks.
All right, wonderful.
Then I would say thank you very much for joining
and I would say we just stay in the call
maybe for a few more minutes
and now open up the space for some questions and discussions here.
Perfect. Let's see who has any questions.
Really interesting stuff.
Or if anyone just wants to hop on for a casual discussion that's fine as well
doesn't need to be any complicated question
Alex what do you you personally think I know Alex you're a blockchain enthusiast but of
course as we all know you have to roll off the CEO and rather not only not too much on
the technical side of things so how would have been running a blockchain node for you before?
It would have not been that's a pretty easy Yeah, I think this is a pretty huge step because it really makes it possible for people like, I wouldn't say you and me, but like me and many others that are just in it for means to an end.
And I think this is really inherently important.
Also, if we look at Onino and what we do differently than many other blockchains it's we just see blockchain tokenization as a
means to an end um if we i don't know talk about whatsapp no one says that whatsapp is an sql server
app um and just like this no one should say our blockchain app is a blockchain app blockchain is
just a means to an end wonderful what's that no one cares if it's sql or if it's whatever is in
the background it's a messaging app and therefore blockchain shouldn't be a technology that is used to provide a solution.
It should never be a solution or the product itself.
Unless you're a developer and you really want to develop on a blockchain
because you know that you need a blockchain, but that's a different story.
And therefore, really, our blockchain network is built in this way.
Our tokenization platform is built in this way,
where it's really around what is the advantage with the technology we're using in this case for example you can't secure a decentralized network
without needing to be a developer if we have a look at our tokenized financing platform you have
the possibility to do fractionalized financing on a digital platform yes it uses tokenization
it uses blockchain but you don't even need to know it. You can just pay with fiat.
You scan a QR code.
You take your phone.
You do the face ID thing and you're done and you're invested.
And you haven't touched a wallet.
You haven't touched a token.
You haven't even thought about blockchains.
Everything you see is, okay, this asset looks cool.
It's a solar farm.
It's real estate or something else.
And the idea is really to bring down to what is the interest of the people. And people
don't wake up and say, I want to buy something tokenized today. They wake up and say, real estate
might be an interesting investment. Let's have a look at the assets. And that's really what we
want to facilitate. And so really, I think TradeVibe really ties perfectly into this, where we
bring the means to an end.
I want to secure a decentralized network
in front of the technology, which would be,
I need to have this computer running 24-7 in, I don't know,
a separate room.
And I need to have Linux on it.
And I need to open a console and develop things.
I have no idea what I'm talking about, and I shouldn't.
And that's a pretty cool thing, what we're enabling here.
Amazing.
Wonderfully summarized.
And I think Alex has perfectly summarized,
brought it to the point why we and all of us in the UNIU team
think that the Trade Vibe by CRDT is basically a perfect addition to the UNIU ecosystem
and also perfectly aligns with our vision, basically, and the values and the products that we want to build to make things, as Alex said, easy and not overcomplicate them.
Yeah, Karen, I think you also joined the space as a speaker.
If you have anything to add.
Yeah, fantastic.
Thanks a lot
Alex thank you trade vibe as well and Kai for this really informative sort of insight into
how you know easy it is really to from a non-technical person like myself to actually
run a validator node and really kind of you know plug and go is the way so I was just
listening I was obviously reading a lot of the information coming into the space,
but I mean, the explanations here were amazing how easy really it is.
And I know there's a big appetite from the community as well.
They've been asking for a long time, you know,
how and when they can kind of start doing sort of becoming a validator on the system. So really that's going to be, I think,
received with a lot of appetite from the community and the wider community as
well. So, yeah, so fantastic. And, you know,
thank you very much for those insights really.
Yeah.
Thank you to Eugene and for for providing these amazing insights
um yeah i think i can speak for for all of us that are new that we're really really looking
forward to deepening the partnership with cdt even further um and yeah are now tackling trade
vibe together um and i'm really looking forward to all things down the roadmap um and yeah to
everybody listening,
as I mentioned before,
just feel free to follow Onino,
follow Consider It Done Technologies,
as well as TradeVibe to always stay updated on the latest developments.
And yeah, just let us know in the comments
or in Telegram or whatever channel you like,
what you think about TradeVibe,
if you're looking forward to it,
in case you would have any questions,
just let us know.
And I think I can speak for all of us and say that
CDT as well as us are happy to provide answers
to all of the questions you guys may have.
And from my perspective, I just wanted to, again,
thank you so much to the Nino team in inviting us here
and providing the ability for us to work together.
This has been an amazing journey.
I've been very excited about what we've been building so far
and where we're going.
So this has been great.
Thank you so much.
Likewise.
I can only give that back.
Big love to the US.
Wonderful.
Cool.
Then thank you, everybody, so much for joining.
It was a great space. Thank you again to Eugene and the team for joining this space here and providing us with these
amazing details about Trade Vibe. And yeah, looking forward to it. Have a wonderful evening,
everybody. See you soon. Thank you, everyone. Have a good one. See you. Thank you. Bye.
