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State of 🅱️obu Pt. 2 🧑🌾⛩️
Recorded: June 3, 2025 Duration: 1:13:48Space Recording
Short Summary
The Bobu community is actively engaging in discussions about future directions, emphasizing the importance of feedback and collaboration. Key topics include potential partnerships, growth strategies, and innovative project launches, such as a Bobu cafe, aimed at enhancing community involvement and brand presence.
Full Transcription
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Throw on some music here and we can start spamming the group chats.
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Otherwise, please give it a like and a retweet so we spread the space out The oh
is Thank you. Oh, just fading it out like a pro here.
Okay. Thanks, thanks everybody appreciate everybody joining
um i imagine we'll get a few more folks in as we go but um want to make sure we respect
everybody's time try to keep this tight uh open up for some questions idea sharing. This is, for those of you who didn't join last week, this is part two of a three-part
spaces with the Bobu committee. State of Bobu, really the purpose of us opening up the spaces
today is to start collecting feedback from the community, making sure we can add as much value
as possible as part of the Bobu experiment. And really, you know, we've been doing Bobu's in his third year for, I guess,
finished three years in the beginning of the fourth year. And we want to just make sure we're
taking feedback, course correcting where we can, and ideally like doing something really dope with Bobu. So we've got Eve and Andy on stage as well.
I know Eve was kind of driving last week's conversation.
Andy and I are going to, we're going to do most of the driving today.
But if you've got questions or comments,
feel free to drop them in the comments to this space or in Discord.
We've got a Propos channel um we'll uh we'll
keep an eye there we'll also open it up for anybody who wants to jump on stage um as as part
of this uh maybe before i i go on um yeah eeb you got your hand up what's up hey everyone i hope
everybody's day is off to a good start or to a pleasant end. It's currently 11pm for me. So it's the end of my day. But I am, I guess I want to thank everyone for joining last week. I want to thank everyone that's listened to the space in that time. I want to thank anyone that's contributed to any conversation outside of this space or put any thought at all into what we talked about or what others have said i mean it it means the world to um to us the committee and um and i i just love i
love seeing anybody talk about it and care about it and it makes me excited so just shout out to
any of you guys um i i'd say that um i reiterate that today's goal is to give anyone in this space a stage to talk about their reaction to the discussion last week, questions about the discussion last week.
And then, you know, obviously, you know, a document was shared yesterday with just a list of ideas, ideas of what we could do.
we could do. Call them moonshot ideas, call them big picture ideas, but whatever you want to call
them. Hopefully you reviewed that document. And if you look at Millennials thread, which is linked
to this Twitter space now, if you scroll down a few tweets, you'll see that document. And you
can reference that, you can read that while you're listening. See if there's anything in there that you want to talk about or it sparks any curiosity or excitement in you.
But before we focus too much on ideas, maybe what I'd recommend, and to Elder lot of space and energy and time, like five to 10 minutes to like, and maybe more for any questions more about like, huh, well, like, I was surprised that you guys talked about this, or I'm confused about that, or I'm worried about this right like anything in in sort of the frame of of of more general
questions about anything or general thoughts or uh ideas that you want to contribute um i think
that would be a great way to start the conversation and then we can go into like you know the
hecticness of like of just absolute brainstorm eye of the hurricane type vibes. The movie, the Twisters prequel type vibes.
I still haven't seen that.
I'm a Twisters OG fan or Twister, not Twisters.
So Twister singular.
Anyway, yeah, I just wanted to add that
to the start of this conversation
and I'll hand it over to Elder and Andy
and hopefully we can,
I'm excited to hear from you guys today.
Thanks, Ebe. Andy, I'm going gonna throw it over to you my man um good uh good chatting as always anything anything you want to share with the group or any reflections from um from last week's spaces that
that uh you wanted to chat about yeah i think last place was pretty good. I think we sort of want to have a very brief summary
of what we entered the spaces with.
We shared a bit of our thoughts,
and I think we can digest in three points.
One is that if we keep going like this,
we might need to improve a bit on the customer experience.
So when we release Bobo products, it has like a nice follow-up,
I think great examples were the Polaroid,
which was like the Bobo cannon and how the sake exchange actually tied into
that. Right.
We got the Zookit spawn shop in one of the Polaroids and Hunt and Evie,
they created like this sake exchange based on that.
So it has some continuation and it builds up on the IP.
And when we release like a product that people can scan the QR,
they actually see how we build up this IP.
And I think that would be cool if we can improve on that
if we keep going like this.
And the other one was, of course,
that we could consider downsizing the committee but it
will give us a bit longer runway because we spend less funds but might some process might go a bit
slower because of it and then the third one is uh just brainstorming on some ideas but it would be
good if we take the first part of this space to just reflect as a community as a
whole,
to reflect on what we discussed on the last spaces and what people think.
So I would love to open up the space a bit to all the listeners to see,
yeah,
who wants to share their thoughts.
Yeah.
So if anybody does want to come up and ask questions or provide some feedback on the last spaces,
or if you have any general thoughts on where we're at with the experiment, feel free to request.
I'm just looking in the comments of the space.
I know Odeka asked, should we expect a Bobu appearance at Anime Expo?
Has the team been able to rush rush produce stuff for the anime fans would
be a cool time to make a splash um great question um it's not one i actually have the answer to
um but we can definitely um we can definitely take that back um with team odeka i i see you
hear you we can drop something in uh in discord after uh after we
have a chance to connect any um any other comments uh in the space or anybody want to
come up and ask anything about last week
well i mean i mean maybe i guess i gotta spark the conversation here if no one wants to go
just yet so i guess uh um i'll start just by saying like i'm gonna share sort of my opinion
if it wasn't maybe if it didn't leak enough or wasn't clear enough by kind of the way that I was talking in
the last space. I, I could, and in some of the group chats after the space, there was some
conversation and thanks to some of the questions that people had, I was able to kind of put it
into some words, like where we're at, like where I think we're at currently. And it's kind of like,
some words like where we're at like where i think we're at currently and it's kind of like you know
it's really just it's a vibe check right and and i think it's it's kind of like these are questions
that it's really important to ask yourself in all areas of your life whether it's personal you know
if it's in your relationship if it's professional if it's in your job um all all areas of your life
you have to stop and ask,
am I where I want to be? Am I doing the things that I want to be doing? Am I headed in the
direction that I want to be headed? Those are important questions that you have to ask yourself.
And it's very difficult when you think of this as a decentralized IP governance experiment.
It's very difficult to nail down, let's say that accountability.
I think it's hard enough to keep yourself accountable. And it's even harder to imagine
yourself as having any level of accountability or agency or ownership over a decentralized
experiment. And so here, when you talk about asking these questions, which you might just
consider a vibe check, it's like, you might not even feel equipped
to answer that question, or not even feel like ever be prompted to answer that question. But
that's what this is all hopefully all about. That's what this conversation is about. It's
about a vibe check. It's about, are we doing what we want to be doing? Or do we need to make a
change? And so I'm not going to go any further than that because hopefully that inspires a bit of conversation
because I noticed that Exlec got invited
to join us up on stage here
and I want to give him the floor.
Hey, yeah.
Hey, everyone.
Yeah, to bridge upon literally last space,
I didn't miss it.
I did miss it, but I did listen back.
I do want to say from being a Bobu first and a proposal person that I do think we do need to
focus on a proper direction. So I do want to throw it. I just wanted to quickly make the comment that
yeah, everyone, please stand up. It would be nice to hear your thoughts on what has been going
well and what hasn't and what could be improved because i could say hey this could be improved
that could be improved but i'm just one voice so um i just want to urge the you know everyone
listening come on uh stand up here because i do think if we do see how much we have left
and um very little proposals or ideas not happening,
whether it's in the Discord or the GCs on X,
it would be cool to see some more activations.
And with everyone's skill set individually, IRL or Web3, Web2, whatever the fuck,
we could really, without the main team's help, really bring Bobu to life.
And I think it's not as hard as everyone thinks.
We just need to kind of rally together
and pick a direction and kind of,
as literally the community of Bobu,
do some fucking dope shit.
It's not that hard.
I think we can do it.
That's it for now.
Enjoy.
Thanks, Exla.
And I know you got some more stuff to share
a little bit further on in this space
when we get to the
our next topic so appreciate you coming up and sharing your thoughts if anybody else wants to
request feel free I did see a comment under the spaces from Arang thank you Arang Arang says I
just arrived in Izuki and Bobu was my entrance but if you want my opinion it would be cool to have a big project or two and possibly something that will bring some money for the project to continue more than the three years we talked about last week.
Thank you, Orang. Orang wants some dope shit and some money in the treasury, I think is how I would TLDR that. I don't know if that's a verb, but it is right now. Okay. We can make this fluid. So
if you don't have anything you want to say right now, that's cool. Oh, what is that,
Ebe? Yeah, if you don't have anything you want to say right now, that's cool. But feel free to
jump up in the middle of the spaces. And if it, uh, you know, if, if it's refers back to the
earlier part, that's, that's no problem. Deep, over to you. Yeah. I'm just going to help anybody
on stage, raise your hand if you want to just contribute to the conversation and drive the
conversation. So I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm good at talking about shit. So I'm just going to keep
talking. And when people have things to say, please say them. But I wanted to finish. I was hoping more people would come up after what I said.
But what I'm going to continue with is kind of the angle that I was going on. Whereas like,
let's say in my personal spot, and you know, you asked me like, what's my vibe check? What do I
think? And remember, this is just me. This is a member of, yeah, I might be a Bobu committee member, but ultimately I'm really just the same as everyone else. I'm a Bobu community member and I got really excited about the idea of a decentralized IP governance at the beginning of the experiment and I still feel that way.
That being said, my main concern really is like, man, decentralization in this case can feel at times a lot like you have a bucket.
You got a five-gallon bucket of water.
And it's like you have all this water pressure that could, you know, let's say, whatever, the moment, imagine you drill one hole in the bottom of the bucket, there's a lot of water coming out, right?
Like it's high pressure, right?
But it's like, sometimes it feels like in a decentralized experiment like this, where, you know, you can rely on so many different people and ideas and directions and
thoughts it can feel like there's a hundred holes in the bucket and there's like then there's no
water pressure and it all it just like it like fizzles it just fizzles out i know that's not a
perfect analogy i'm just i mean i really am just communicating on the fly here but it's kind of like this point of like, I worry that when I look at what we've done is there's so many cool things that people in this experiment have done, you know, and so much that makes me proud.
And some of what's been worked on is so cool.
Plus, some of what's been worked on is so cool.
When I think about the experiment on a three-year time span,
I think about, well, if there's a hundred cool things that are done,
but all of them move one inch in a hundred different directions,
what is that going to feel like at the end of three years?
Where it's
like you know to exo's point about like picking a direction it's like that there's it's almost
kind of like this my perspective is like there's there's two ways to to pick one direction right
um one is is significantly um more difficult perhaps rewarding, but requires a lot of, a lot of,
it would require a lot of organization. But it's kind of like you could either A,
put, bet, bet all your chips and all your chips is a bit of an exaggeration. You know,
we could do it more strategically, but bet all your chips on one core initiative that you feel, okay, we can put all of
our pressure behind this initiative. And then therefore that one direction is forced, or you
can try and, um, what would be the word, uh, corral the hundred initiatives to be going towards the same direction.
That is, I would say, infinitely, I don't know,
I would say significantly more difficult than one direction.
But like by having just one sort of core idea pushing rather than the hundred.
But that's kind of what I'm chewing on here is like,
what at the end of the day, at the end of the three years,
what can we do that's gonna make everyone feel excited,
fulfilled?
You know, it's like,
you have to assume the worst outcome failure, right?
If you assume the worst outcome failure,
what can we do that even if we fail,
we're gonna be so happy that we did it
because we might succeed, right?
But, and that of course is the goal is to succeed in whatever we try to do.
But I would say the most ideal outcome is that we're choosing something and acting in a way that we are counting on our success.
But if we fail, we will have been proud and excited that we tried.
So that's me blabbering.
And luckily, we have we have two new speakers up.
I'm so excited that you guys came upabbering and and luckily we have we have two new speakers up i'm so excited
that you guys came up to share your thoughts and and um and opinions so pixlet i have to get the
gong out i think next uh next time i talk did i talk too long pixlet over to you hey glad to be up
here um just a thought to throw out there.
I've been having a chat with Funkle.
If any of you don't know Funkle, Funkle with a PH,
he in the studio has been doing a lot of great animations,
actually some official ones for the Zugi team as well.
And so he's able to create a top-tier animation as needed.
And so one of the things I was thinking of as I was talking to him
was what are ways in which we can create meaningful Bulbu proposals
to proliferate the IP,
and one of the key things I pinpointed was
we need to bring him to an audience that would actually care.
And there's a little bit of a product market fit dance there.
One of the things that I thought of was, hey, what if we actually made a miniseries with Funkle's team where there are three mini Bobu episodes and we
threw them up on anime.com that to me sounds like a very obvious and clear path to proliferating the
IP because well first off you know if we can get the Zuki team's buy-in on this and get them to
lend us their distribution platform of anime.com,
then that would be a perfect place to show Bobu to the masses.
Especially after Anime Expo, where I presume the Azuki team will be telling everyone about anime.
Once everyone knows about anime, and we start releasing content on there for Bobu,
that's going to be a place where people who
may actually care about his story start to come and love Bobu.
So, you know, basically I hit him up.
I don't really have a proposal in mind, but I did hit him up and say, hey, Funko, how
much from the Bobu treasury would it take to make three mini episodes for a mini series for Bobu
just to kick it off start it off and see what the reception is like uh some little blockchain
activations you can do alongside of it are uh you know on anime.com you have these little avatars
imagine you can get the Bobu hat for your avatar or Bobu's lantern things like that
so yeah
I didn't get a direct quote from him
of like how much it would cost to make a few episodes
but we did kick around a few ideas
and I think overall it kind of makes sense
to you know in a sense collaborate
with the Azuki team
to see if we could
put out dope content
that people would consume and
then uh you know bobu's ip actually makes it out there into the wild awesome thank you thank you
i'm gonna get to you in one second i did want to um i did want to share a thought and a bit of
feedback on that one um so the one of the ways that I think about, you know, what are we trying to do with Bobu?
I kind of break it down to like three different potential goals, which depending on what we do, we could hit all of them or maybe just one of them.
The three things that I'd say I like consistently see across proposals and these ideas, one, which Pixlet, I think you mostly spoke to, which is IP proliferation.
So how are we getting Bobu out into the wild?
You know, this would be like media impressions, lore expansion.
More people know who Bobu is.
know who Bobu is that's like one thing right the next another one is some form
That's like one thing, right?
of like Treasury monetization filling up the bucket growing the Treasury so that
we can do more and other things that's probably more down like a business
business lens we're selling something we're getting some kind of like royalties
or advertising or whatever that's like another one.
And then the third is some form of like community activation.
And so I think about, you know, like the Bobu Halloween,
very much community activation,
not so much IP proliferation or monetization very much around the community.
Like could be a little bit in the IP proliferation just because like people
are seeing these like weird anime people walking around new york um yeah exactly so uh i'm thinking that uh
you know thinking thinking through the bobu mini series uh it would probably hit points one and two
uh the ip proliferation that that's a no-brainer, right? That's obvious.
You make episodes that
people love watching on anime.com.
People
learn about who Bobu is,
and it's very sticky, right? It's not just like,
oh, I saw Bobu
just in some random shop or something,
and then I forgot about it. It's static, it's on
anime.com, and it's going to help
reach all anime fans.
Number two, the purpose of the sticker can is obviously you can actually replenish a bit of the treasury.
You know, maybe you wouldn't be able to replenish enough to cover all of the costs, but at least it's a start.
Right.
So you sell a bunch of sticker cans, you know uh maybe the team could charge credit
card for that uh and then that money would go back into the bobu experiment um and then you
know if everything goes well then presumably uh we could continue making more episodes actually
one of the things i was talking with um funko about was uh he came up with this idea where it'd be neat if you could actually have an
interactive storyline, kind of like Black Mirror's Bandersnatch. I'm not sure if any of you have
tried that out, but you can actually control what happens next at certain breakpoints in the story.
And so we were kind of kicking around ideas about how we can make the Bobu experience a little bit
more fun than just a linear story. But there's plenty of things we can make the Bobu experience a little bit more fun than just a
linear story but there's there's a plenty of things we can do you know we can start small
just make a few super funny uh memeable uh episodes uh and sell sticker sent cans to go with
it and see how that goes awesome thanks pixlet let's um throw it over to Hunt. You got your hand up. And then I think we lost Sam Tan, but he did share an idea, which I'll read out after. Hunt, over to you. they felt almost like being talked down to. I don't really understand what the goal is here.
Like, are you guys asking for people to do more with Bobu?
Are you asking for people to do less things but one big thing?
Are you asking for a revamp?
a revamp like i don't i don't really understand what's going on um i mean i've i listened to the
Like, I don't really understand what's going on.
first one and i kind of got the impression that you guys just want to make bobu better
we might run out of money before we do anything significant um but i didn't understand like the
concept here what what is it exactly that you guys want from the bobu community
concept here? What is it exactly that you guys want from the Bobu community?
Ibo, why don't you go and I can also chime in after.
Okay, I'm going to go quick. Sorry if I was confusing at all, Hunt Club. Really, I think
it could be answered in one sentence. We don't want anything from the Bobu community outside
of understanding what the Bobu community wants so that we can give it to them.
We as a committee don't always do the best job of understanding exactly what people need and want and what they're upset about or what they're excited about or what they're not excited about.
they're not excited about. And we want to know that it is everybody happy with what we're doing?
Does it need to change? Because we as a community certainly don't want to feel guilty in the
position of we're not doing enough or we're doing the wrong thing and the community wants us to be
trying to push for something else. So it's like, right, the experiment was defined by Cheerio Labs
and its purpose three years ago.
I don't think we as a community have come together
to talk about what that purpose is,
how that may have changed, how that may have morphed.
And I'm terribly sorry that you feel like
maybe I was talking down to you last week
or even earlier on in this space.
But no, it's just about making sure
that we're doing what the community wants to do.
And that's how I would put it.
Okay, I appreciate that.
Just because when I was talking to some people that had built out Bobu proposals,
they felt like they wasted a lot of their time.
The reason is it's obviously very difficult to break out of the Web3 sphere
when it comes to Bobu, his IP, or any products you create from it, right?
So people either ended up spending their own money because their proposal was too low.
People ended up spending their own money because they got misquoted or could not create something
in time. And they had to pay a little bit out of pocket. People felt like they weren't getting a huge amount of support.
The people that built something that was just for fun didn't really get,
I guess, what they wanted out of it, which could have been notoriety,
could have been a little bit of fame, could have been some financial reward,
could have been something.
So I think the people that have produced Bobu related products or have built out with the Bobu IP so far through proposals just feel like they're a little kind of out of place, forgotten, blah, blah, blah.
Right. There's no there's no like memory brought up. There's no tweets brought up about all the old stuff.
about all the old stuff. I haven't seen anyone talk about Bobu's kids' books for a while.
I haven't seen anyone talk about Bobu's kids books for a while.
Wakuma just sold out of their Bobu plushies, I think, like a month ago, and they've had that
for like two years. So I think the people that have already put their time forward to build out
for Bobu might deserve a little something. I was expecting that to come out of the uh anime
airdrop for people i was expecting like garden caretakers and people that had built proposals
out with bobu to get a little extra kick um which they didn't but that that could be a good start
rewarding the people like you know nick or um anyone that has previously built something with Bobu IP, just because they did something great.
I think, personally, as a community member,
I want to have more fun with Bobu.
I don't know how this works,
and I feel like maybe information might help.
So let's say you guys get a proposal, for instance, submitted to you,
and it does not
make it through the committee. We never know about it as a community, which I mean, obviously,
like we love you guys and, you know, we respect your opinions, but maybe it's a good thing that
we find out. Like I know that Friends Chocolates had a Bobo proposal that didn't go through,
and I just don't know about it. I don't know what the proposal is. I don't think anyone knows
what the proposal was, why it didn't go through, you know, could it have been
changed to go through. And maybe the community being involved earlier in some
of these things in a fun way could be cool. I don't think shrinking the size
of the committee is a
good thing. I actually think it's a very, very bad thing and it will not lead to more proposals.
I don't care about like, I don't think anyone cares about the, you know, the small amount of
money that you guys are getting paid every month, because I think genuinely people that build with
Bobo should be paid more if we want to see more. At first, I had a problem with Rui and that like $7,000 bill for his project management on the Bobu magazine proposal.
And the more I think about it, the more I applaud it.
And I think everyone should have some sort of a fee like that built in because people got to make some money or else we're just never going to see dope shit out of Bobu, right?
Like, if someone's going to make a Bobu animation like Pixel was talking about, everyone's got to get paid a little bit.
Or else no one's going to actually do it, right?
Like Funko, the animator, will get paid.
He'll do it.
The writer might get paid and he'll do it.
The writer might get paid and he'll do it.
But then you've got like the person that's supposed to be championing it, cheerleading it, BDing it, tweeting about it, talking about it, trying to get partnerships, trying to get this.
And we're all trying to take this like selfless road of going and, you know, doing it for the cause and for the community.
And I think that's causing a lack of sustainability for some people.
And I've heard that before from from dem i didn't listen at the
time because hoorah rah rah passion um but i see it in a lot of these things unfolding so
yeah i'll say you guys are great don't cut the fucking committee in fact increase the committee
if you need to and increase the pay if you need to and just do some more dope shit
um yeah that's about it thanks thanks hun um and i can i can comment on a couple other things but i
appreciate the feedback um on the uh so i will say there's there's honestly very few proposals
that don't actually make it to the community um the one that you
mentioned um i don't actually think didn't go through because of any reason other than i it
sort of just fell off it wasn't um i don't i don't think it was actually ever denied um i think um
i think seo actually just got busy i think that think that was the main thing with that one.
There is one that we haven't released, which is related to this conversation, which I'm
happy to talk about more.
And this is one of the reasons actually that sparked this whole concept.
One of the conversations we've been having in the committee running the project.
There was like an allergic reaction by the community being like, holy shit, like, why should you get all this money to like do this project?
this project. I think in that time, we have learned exactly what you're saying that without some,
like some form of compensation, like people are putting in real work to build these things out.
And like, it's okay for them to get paid, um, to do these things. If we want someone to do a good
job, we want these things to happen in like a reasonable timeline. Like, I think those things
are all relevant. One of the other things that happened at that time is I think, you know, we saw this, we
saw the Alley Cat Records proposal, and I think they were asking for like 70 grand at
the time or something.
We're like, holy shit, that seems like a lot of money.
ETH was like down from where it is now.
It was like a chunk of the treasury.
And then I think we said, okay, well, we think maybe we need to, we need to skew to
like smaller proposals, probably in the like 10 to 30 K range.
And that was like, that was sort of the, what we were seeing as like consensus expectation within the community.
And then we've since seen that like change, right.
right? As we've seen some like, some really cool ideas that are at higher price points.
As we've seen some, like some really cool ideas that are at higher price points.
So now I think the question is, okay, would we ever want to see a $400,000 proposal,
a $500,000 proposal, like that would take up a ton of the Treasury if we were to do it.
But would that be something that the community wants to see would enjoy if we could like take
a bigger swing? We don't have that many big swings
based on the treasury so there's like a big you know there's a trade-off discussion to have there
which is would it be better to spend a lot of money on like one or two big things or kind of
continue in the way we are which is still like small and experimental and you know community
members if they have ideas and things they want to do, they can pursue them. Like there's a pretty high, um, you know, like with, with some,
with some coaching or depending on who the person is, like reasonable business plan,
like most of these things are going to get funded. Um, but individually, you know, the,
the amount of impact they can make is probably just a bit smaller. Um, so that's, that's,
I'd say one of the reasons why we're
having like this specific conversation today is like, here's like, um, I shared a notion doc,
uh, in the, in the link to the original spaces. Um, it's in the, you know, you got to scroll down
in the post above just with some ideas. And, and like, these are, these are purely ideas.
Budgets are like very loose.
But really just to like get people thinking about like, do we want to change course in the type of things we're targeting?
Or are we like pretty happy with continuing on?
So this is really intended to be like just that kind of like touch point, gauge sentiment.
Yeah. And I'm going to shut up now.
I don't know whose hand was first. And if I could do something real quick, I would just say Hunt Club, to your point of like rewarding people who have worked on proposals.
I mean, yeah, I mean, I've always been a big advocate.
I mean, I might not have been the first months of the experiment as I was learning, but I have always been a big advocate of like, and I was with you and expected as you're putting your proposal together.
I was like, what do you want to get paid, dude?
I was I was encouraging you there um but uh um i just want to say if you have some thoughts on that
i mean we can work on a proposal like if anybody has you want to solidify like what that looks like
and how we want to reward builders or people who are submitting proposals um or rewarding them i
mean that can be a proposal so So I just wanted to say that.
Yeah, I just pinned it to the top.
I tweeted it just straight out.
Pay 10K to everyone that's run a proposal.
So like a team like Wakuma, for instance,
I think it was Aranthi, Fish, and Uncle, right?
They would share 10K.
Nick and his team would share 10K,
and like, et cetera, et cetera.
Exla and his team,
Bobu like sake and their team,
and maybe it's just like a little out there,
but hey, if we spend 60 to 70 grand
on the people that have built in the past,
and all of a sudden,
it encourages them to build again,
or it encourages new people to build.
It could be a dope thing.
Because in hearing you and Elder speak about some of these larger proposals,
and even Pixlets, which is actually a great idea, I love them, but it's an insane amount of work to launch a business under an IP that you don't technically own.
And some people might not be looking at like the future of that, but it would require a much looser understanding of the money in the treasury,
its purpose, and what we want to do with it, and the safeguards to it. Because you're right,
you did encourage us, and I didn't even think about it that way. We get, I think, $1,500 worth
of a prize that we create. We get to spend $1,500 on a prize for ourselves. One each,
once a year, that's like what we took. And it's for what we built, I think that was like more
than enough. If I was building something bigger though, I think I would want to hope that the
community would want to pay for that kind of experience.
Now, I've learned that as well, but I didn't think like that before.
Thanks, Han.
I'm going to go to Zhu just because I know you chatted earlier.
I know you got some other stuff, but Zhu, you want to go first?
All right.
So I had this idea like a long time ago.
We're talking about Bobo being like a sandwich maker or the MedBot farmer is trying to make him some money.
Maybe he'll buy the anime dip uh he'll sell the
anime pump he'll arbitrage you know pump his treasury you know he's on the x you know he's
he's on the ether scan you know uh people who sandwich me oh it's bobu ah it's cool you know
like some of them like make him some money he's on chain he's doing stuff he's yeah like because i hear
all these spending like spending bubbles money right like you know eventually it'll run dry so
there's gotta be like some kind of way to for him to make money have some exposure or whatever like
make a med pot for for bobu um or something to make money or like you like you said you like maybe a grand grand plan maybe
like we could fund like a big fund like fund a a business venture you know like a two three year
span um you know and then like maybe the whole cafe is like bobo ip related or fireflies and
then he'll get like a percent revenue after his interest gets paid off or
something you know like so that yeah boom treasuries treasuries build back up uh ips
proliferated and then potential small percentage of revenue from the business i don't know
thanks zoo great great ideas i'm gonna throw it over to you sam thanks for coming back
yo thanks for having me thanks for everything you guys do i throw it over to you, Sam. Thanks for coming back. Yo, thanks for having me. Thanks for everything you guys do. I know it's hard. You guys are,
you know, getting pulled different ways and I totally understand that. Imagine running the
whole country. But anyway, so my thought is just pretty simple. I'm kind of a big fan of
treasure hunters and I've seen this happen before. I'm sure you guys probably kind of know where I'm kind of a big fan of treasure hunters and I've seen this happen before. I'm sure you guys
probably kind of know where I'm going. I posted it in there, but imagine you had like one BTC
0.25 each for four different ones to represent the four different elements or factions or whatever
you want to call them with the elementals. And you literally make four poems. I know I put eight,
but then it kind of came to me. I was like,als. And you literally make four poems. I know I put eight,
but then it kind of came to me. I was like, maybe four kind of like makes more sense.
And it's less money. But you literally just hide these things and you make these amazing,
we'll come up with somebody who's the best writer in the Izuki community to like make these amazing poems. And even if you own a Bobu token, like I was thinking about this while I was waiting,
maybe there's like a token gated way to like go to Hellumia and like, there's like little tiny
extra clues or something to like help you with the, you know, to up the Bobu community and kind
of like, and if you even try to find it and you get it, the only way to turn it in, you have to
have at least one Bobu token, like to turn it in
to claim the prize or something like that. I don't know. I think it would be a fun way to like
bring people out into the adventure world of hiking and like, you know, we could hide them
in the national parks or something all across. I think it'd be crazy, but I know, I know that's
like a really drastic idea, but, but everything that you write about it it could be
like Bobu orientated like Bobu took a left here and Bobu did this and like everything when they're
reading it all they're gonna read is Bobu Bobu Bobu like Bobu's treasure here Bobu's BTC like
Bobu this and people be like what the fuck is Bobu and people be like what is this thing like
and then you all those I like what Hunt sent all those people you should pay them and then guess
what when they come to the community they'll be like whoa there's this whole world of Bobu like And then all those, I like what Han said, all those people, you should pay them. And then guess what?
When they come to the community, they'll be like, whoa, there's this whole world of Bobu.
Like, what the heck?
And then you sell them.
You sell them.
And then you get more money.
You keep selling products to them.
And then you get more money.
Man, for sure.
I like the energy, man. I think it's a good, or at least it's quite an exciting proposal.
I think a few details that
we might have to think through a bit better but it's something and i yeah i think it's uh
interesting but i think we still had some well you you gotta you gotta put them in ledgers
everything's got to be decentralized there's got to be like keywords and all this stuff i mean it
could get it could get deep and then also, BTC is only going to go up.
So imagine when 0.25 is like, holy crap. And it lasts forever, too. I mean, who knows? There
could be one out there. The fire domains, one is still not out there. It's still out.
And then the Bobu community, I mean, they get those extra still out you know and then the bobu community i mean they get those extra
hints you know like yeah i think it says something but uh i don't want to waste too much time
discussing one single proposal i think des is next so des what's up, that was like two minutes. You guys talked for like 11 hours. I'm out.
Oh, Sam with the cut up on his way out.
Appreciate you, fam.
Or you, Daz.
I'm trying to be limited with my words here.
Yo, so I got a few points.
Let's see. So one of them being the big dollar amount proposal. I think that's a big part of this conversation, right? Is do we like that? What's the good? What's the bad?
And that's pretty much, you know, all of it.
Still leaving room for some smaller proposals.
That's cool.
But, you know, a big project, the big cost that costs a lot of money, usually it takes a long time to execute.
So it may not be very fun in the meantime.
Right.
And it doesn't allow for as many opportunities for us to kind of get creative within the community, meaning various proposals and whatnot.
So I'm a little hesitant to 100% be on the,
let's go ahead and do a big-ass proposal,
because there's also the possibility
that it doesn't really turn into anything,
and then we just shot ourselves in the foot, right?
Fair point, fair point.
So is your preference like we kind of stay on a similar
path uh keep it kind of smaller and um just try to stay on the same path to an extent, but, you know, enhancing our guardrails, right?
I think not every proposal needs to return money, but they definitely need to, I mean, not every proposal needs to make money, right?
I like the idea of some proposals just breaking even.
Hey, you took out $10,000, you took out $15,000, $20,000.
Try your best to get the $10,000, $15,000, $20,000 out, right?
And that way we still have that money there, but the value comes from the proliferation.
I think that's something that people need to keep in their minds where they don't necessarily have to have this big return coming in.
And maybe they don't make the 10, 15, 20, but maybe shoot for getting at least 50 percent of that back.
Right. I think that's something that could be nice.
I think the idea of encouraging people to take advantage of the noncommittee proposals or whatever that term was for anything under one ETH. We could see a lot more fun things with that.
I think a lot of people don't really understand the Bobu proposal process and like the limits of, hey, it can be this small, it can be this big.
And as far as like, you know, a big dollar amount, yeah, maybe not 400, 500 grand, but maybe we do want to get a
little crazy and go for the 100 and 150. I'm sure there's, you know, limitations to what we can do
with that compared to 400, 500, but just taking out a big majority, you know, 70, 80% of the
proposal, I mean, treasury, I feel like that's just riskier, right? Thanks, Des.
It's just riskier, right?
Thanks, Des.
I don't know if you've had a chance to look at the notion I shared, but have a look.
There's a few things in there.
I want to throw it over to Exla.
Exla, did you want to chat through what you were thinking about?
Yeah, totally.
Just to bring it back one last time
to everyone who spoke,
I think they're all great ideas.
Hunt, exactly what you're saying.
I love how it was like,
hey, let's do more for the people
in the community
and the people who launch proposals.
But at the same time,
yeah, let's get the community around.
Daz, I do agree with you. Maybe not a huge, huge chunk. Obviously
not. If there's an X amount left, let's not use it in one big go without a big solid plan,
but maybe two thirds or a half. And there's more than enough small proposals out there.
Hopefully that would be some cool ideas. Yeah. Since millennial just threw me the mic, one of the ideas that I've been brewing on, no pun intended, while before, funny enough, the whole aspect of these spaces got conceptualized, is what I've learned from bringing Bobu to Web2 is we do need way more. And I'm not talking about direction in terms of
what are we doing with the committee and what are we doing with the treasury, but we do need
direction in how we communicate Bobu. Because as much as I can sell Bobu to a normie or whoever,
to a normie or whoever, it's very long-winded.
Hey, bo-boo's this.
We need to have maybe a good kind of a joint marketing plan,
kind of where everyone can just go,
hey, scan this, boom, done.
And it's not just going to the website,
but kind of an idiot proof.
And I'm talking idiot proof
where the hillbilly with one eye understands
who Bobu the bean farmer is,
or your old ass grandma
goes, oh, I want to go have sake or beer with him. But just better communication from maybe the Bobu
accounts, you know, just even if it's just a, hey, guys, how are you doing on his account? So yeah.
And with that, kind of came up with another, the kind of extension of what I did with the brewery and Bogus beer is I kind of actually wanted to, and after saying the notion ideas as well, it kind of worked perfectly.
no more than about, say, half of the amount and invest into a big-ass business, or not even big-ass,
just an actual someone who's willing to drive the business for Bobu, about Bobu. And the best one
about it was what I was conceptualizing and everything, is Bobu's Cafe. Literally what was
written in the notion, literally one-on-one-one Bobo's whether it's Boba tea whether
it's regular tea whether it's cafe Bobo's matcha latte express you know and actually have a
standalone brick and mortar place that we can actually people can connect to and actually go
oh when they're sitting having coffee they have the time to go, oh, wait, there's a QR code that leads there. There's a
storytelling there. And that's what I wanted to bring from my learnings of putting Bobu beer out
there is that I get people to the customer journey of drinking the beer. I get them to hopefully
scan the QR code and or have a conversation with me about Bobu. But after that, there's only so much
I can do without any full, full support, whether allowed from, say, the big team or the community
going, hey, can I say this? Can I do this? It's semi within my proposal agreement or not.
But whereas a standalone business cafe can literally just sit down, build, and people come. And that's one of the, in my mind's easiest ways. And I've even written out a whole business plan on how it could benefit the treasury.
Bobu GC on X as well, who coincidentally said, and I was like, yeah, exactly.
As low as 5% earnings yearly, no matter what, or even quarterly,
going back to the treasury and just a standalone would be great
because then it's the longevity of it.
And then there's still enough for the proposal or the treasury to do the fun stuff,
the, hey, do what Sam said, doing a cool scavenger hunt or you know
whatever so yeah i think as a committee as a committee that we need more direction and
communication and marketing from a community we need more actual physical activations to really
get where we're going that all tie into one and maybe even all the proposal people work together
but yeah putting it out there i'm willing to start a fucking bobu cafe i got the financial
advisor already looking at all the the logistics and everything so yeah if the people want it
i'll put the proposal up 100
bobu cafe would it be like a cat cafe i don't know i'd love to see uh i'd love to see something
yeah funny enough uh i was joking uh with my wife uh would it be cat would it be this we already
have a cat cafe in rotterdam so i was thinking no it'd be animal friendly either way but um
no it would be bobo's Bean Cafe, man.
I've already, like I said, I already planned this out.
Kids, young and old, adults can come.
You know, it would be a safe space, a chill, needed space where kids can learn, grow.
It wouldn't be overly loud like some, you know, indoor recreation area.
It would be zen.
And we'd even spotlight, have a mini art gallery
or a little indoor kind of store aspect
just for garden members and garden creators
where we'd showcase prints.
I literally would then buy by the bulk load
Bobu's books and literally have readings,
you know, once a month or stuff like that.
But yeah.
Thanks, Exla. I love love the passion love the ideas um if anybody else wants to come up and and chat uh feel free um i thought i might
uh share you know a couple of the ideas we've been we've been kind of like mulling over and
these ones like also just you know going back to daz
like i think with most of these there's a range right like they don't have to be half million
dollar ideas but um but a couple of the things that we've been kind of like mulling over um
hunt you might like this one uh in your in your island arc um know, what if there was like a Bobu B and B, uh, where, you know,
we buy a property somewhere, do it up, um, you know, get a Bobu mural painted on it,
have it as a place where we stage whatever Bobu products, um, and share, you know, share lore and
reading materials or whatever. And that's something that actually has a, has a cash flow,
um, depending on where it
is in the world and the kind of neighborhood, there's obviously a huge range of where that
could fall in terms of the amount of capital required. On the cafe front, is there an opportunity
for Bobu to be a business mogul where he buys a business?
Someone selling it, maybe that actually manages it. If there was a way to do it, that's like a little bit more hands off from management. Cause obviously, yes, it, it, I think what X was talking
about is like running a cafe. Obviously, you know, I think that's a, it's an awesome idea.
It's a lot of work for, you know, that so like you know are there are there businesses for
sale boba shops uh figurines shops cafes that you know could yeah it could be a bobu uh you know a
bobu business um that's one of the ones we've been kind of mulling over and then one also going back
to you hunt where you were saying hey you know are there proposals that the community hasn't seen yet
one of the ones that really prompted some of this discussion was actually around a webtoon Also going back to you, Hunt, where you were saying, hey, are there proposals that the community hasn't seen yet?
One of the ones that really prompted some of this discussion was actually around a Webtoon series.
And we were talking to a creator of, you know, like 20 or 30 issues.
But it did get us thinking like, okay, you know, is this a proposal that the community would be excited about?
Like, does the community read Webtoons?
You know, does this feel like a good use of funds for spreading the IP?
So anyways, just want to give you like more context and transparency behind like where some of these questions are coming from.
Would love to hear thoughts on that one in particular, just because like there is a potential proposal there, but we've
kind of like, you know, sort of press pause and say, okay, you know, would people prefer if we
were to do something on the IP front that was, you know, kind of like a Webtoon series or a
physical manga or, you know, or like a more animated series, like, because we probably can't
do all of them just based on budget and timelines and all that stuff, but we we probably can't do all of them just just uh based on budget and timelines
and all that stuff but we could probably do one of them um and depending on how excited people are
to spend on it we it could be bigger or smaller uh you know more episodes more um more issues
fewer issues like there's lots of ways we can we can approach it. Yeah, lots of ideas.
So I'm going to stop for now.
Andy, I want to hear from you.
What are you excited about?
What's got your brain and gears turning this week?
Well, I'm all about the IP proliferation, actually.
And I really love what BigSid was speaking about,
maybe also because I'm biased and I've also worked with Funko.
But I also wrote that idea proposal that BigSid was talking about.
And what I really love is how he made it even better
by incorporating it on anime.com
and have more of like an afterthought after you watch the shorts, right?
Like you can actually explore anime.com,
you get the stickers and it adds a bit more
than just watching the anime shorts.
And I think that's one really cool thing.
But to add on that, I think it's also cool to create
like content that when we, for example,
have the Bobo beer and they scan the QR code,
they have actually something to look at right
to look at animation or to look at to read up on a manga to see actually what Bobu is about
and I think right now we are sort of missing that point a bit so yeah I've been thinking about how
we could actually reinforce that a bit more that there's actually something to talk about rather
than oh this is this decentralized experimentation.
But yeah, I think the business idea is also pretty cool. And I think, well, first of all, we need to focus our efforts on probably one direction
because we just have limited funds, even though it sounds like a big number.
But it could potentially all work together, right?
Like, let's say we have this cafe and we have these screens up there
that shows the animation shorts
or we have like books that tell more about Bobo stories
or even when we have like an Airbnb business
and it all showcased like the Bobo products there.
So it's all like Bobo themed,
sort of like a brainwashing room
that you just go on a Bobo camp for a few days
and you just learn all about Bobo.
I think that could be quite fun.
So in a way, I think we are all just very passionate about how we want to proliferate the Bobo IP or build on top of Bobo.
But I think what's lacking is we just need to decide on something and just full beans go for it, you know.
Just full beans go for it, you know?
I mean, I don't think we can make everyone happy,
but I think as long as we can rally together behind one vision, a mission,
I think that would be my preference to go forward.
Sparred up a lot of people that want to talk.
spart up a lot of people that want to talk.
What's up, Dad?
dad?
I have,
one small idea that I got two questions for you guys.
Andy,
like what you're saying,
as far as like,
you know,
going back to the idea of building content,
you know,
proliferate,
proliferating through that way.
You know,
even if we have an Airbnb we still need all that
supplemental material to make it worthwhile other than just a B&B business right a cool idea might
be is establishing like booboo bounties right where we have these ideas and people can sign up
and say you know what I'm gonna tackle that I'll execute that for whatever the bounty value is
right maybe there's artists out there that are looking for that exact thing to say,
hey, oh shit, I can totally do a short series or I could put together a manga book
and then they can just, you know, sign up for that.
You guys, you know, interview them, vet them, however we do.
But that might be something neat.
You can transform that even with, you know, making a site to make that happen
transform that even with, you know, making a site to make that happen maybe at some point in the
maybe at some point in the future.
future. But apart from that, the two questions that I had is how does the committee communicate,
right? Like how do you guys talk with each other and put these proposals together and talk about
ideas? What does that look like? I mean, like tactically, we have a weekly sync meeting like we we talk every week
um actually right at this time um and then um we are all uh in a shared slack channel
um so that's like it's a little bit more organized than just kind of like a Twitter group chat.
And then we're in the productivity tools together, so we use Notion to track proposal status.
We have shared Google Drive, kind of like the typical team productivity tools.
But yeah, we're in very regular conversation with each other.
And then my second question, thank you for that, Elder.
Apart from the internal communication,
other than these spaces,
how do you guys communicate with the community?
Assuming obviously some of them reach out to you directly.
Anything beyond that? Yeah, I'd say like most of it is in Twitter and Discord.
You know, I think we have spaces like this from time to time. I mean, not this specific topic,
but one to remind people that we're here and that there's avenues with which
to, um, you know, make proposals, build proposals. Like, I mean, I know like we're often like each
of us in DMS with different people in the community, um, when they have ideas, um,
discord I'd say is becoming like a little bit less of a channel. Like it's just, there's not
as much activity in there.
It seems like these days,
but those are the two places
where we are like readily accessible
and then try to keep up on different group chats
where Bobu's a discussion topic.
So, but also, I mean,
if you have ideas or things you'd like to see
in that regard,
definitely open to hearing what those would be.
Yeah, I definitely don't have any ideas. But I think that's an opportunity to, you know,
maybe see how to improve what we can do. I think the hardest thing is we have a ton of ideas,
but we need to find doers, need to find the people that can execute, right? And that's hard.
So last few words is just, I love these spaces. I appreciate you guys having them. I think more of these would be great. It keeps it fresh, right? At the top of the mind, because there's so much
going on. So thank you guys for what you do, and thanks for having me on.
Okay, I'm wondering if anybody else wants to come up um you're welcome to i'm just going to take a
quick scan i haven't seen oh two beans one cup right bobu across your forehead next movie ikz
i think that's a great idea i think i don't know that there's anything else i can say that would improve on that one uh is he gonna execute on it what's that is he gonna execute on it i think so i'm pretty
sure once you write the comment in twitter it means you have to do it so two beans one cup if
you're listening uh we're very excited uh to see that um this is recorded though so we'll make sure uh we can play this back
we'll clip it i think that's that's what we do right we clip it and then yeah we'll check back
on that one um that that's like non non-commercial so like approved ready to go um yeah i don't see
any other any other questions or comments in here?
Yeah, maybe just like last call for speakers.
I don't know.
Eve, any closing thoughts on your end?
If you're still here.
I know it's late.
Yeah, I'm still here.
No, no closing thoughts from me. I just appreciate everyone coming and, and sharing their thoughts. I apologize to Hunt and any other proposal team members who felt like I was talking down. I mean, I really sincerely apologize. That was not my intention. I, you got me overthinking on that. So no, I, we just want to make sure that we know where people are at and what people want and that's it. So thanks for participating in the conversation and the discussion.
We're going to do another conversation, um, uh, next week.
I would say, um, hopefully, you know, this conversation maybe got you thinking about
some more things.
Maybe some people think about some proposals that they want to start working on and share
as, as it's a little bit more of a formal idea.
Um, and, and we can talk again next Tuesday.
Depending on how, like the way that we structured this originally,
it wasn't like the third space wasn't going to be super community involvement heavy.
But based on where this has gone and how things are going,
things are going i would say it it certainly can be um we we may also treat the next one as
I would say it certainly can be.
maybe just like more of like an actual bubble committee meeting that you guys are listening in
on um as we kind of talk about things and catch up with each other um we'll see we'll play it a
bit by ear but we still plan to um uh to come together on the twitter space next week um and
and we can we can talk more as a community.
And we as a committee will chat a little bit about what's going on
and we'll decide what that looks like.
But that's what I would add.
Thanks, Elder.
Awesome.
Thanks, Ebe.
Excellent.
You got your hand up.
Yeah, just a suggestion based off the last uh the traction of the last space and this one
maybe it would be good if you guys quickly have a powwow and maybe throw it to us to put a just
just put a quick pull up hey do we like uh just as a consensus at least um hey do we like option
a we keep it as is uh option b we go big half and a bunch of small
or option c we go big then at least you're collecting some of the data on hand from the
comments and so forth and we and then you guys can take it into the next space as uh you all
were saying as well just kind of a thought to us to actually gather a little bit of what we were
doing and then everyone as he was saying will give us more time to think and go, okay, hey, I want to act more.
We see, okay, everyone's leaning to, we just stay as is, then we can all come, okay, what else can we contribute then?
Just kind of like a data collection point.
Thanks, Exla.
Sue, over to you oh um instead of a cafe maybe like a food truck i think fish
want to do a proposal on a food truck but we'll who truck at a festival whatever
something smaller right coffee cart love it yeah what one of the uh one of the ideas that i thought would be really cool um i
don't know who um this one's this one's for free if anybody wants to deliver on it um i thought it
would be cool doing like uh you know like a bogu uh bjmc speakeasy maybe it's like a kind of like
a secret like i don't know just like cool mixology bar with
some food that shows up in a few different places and it's like i don't know just like really short
term um you know a weekend or a week or something and then like try you know try to make it kind of
viral um probably super hard to actually do like getting you know getting the licensing and getting the
you know getting a good um bartender and chef and whatever but like i thought that would be like a
super cool thing anyways i love the idea of the food truck um fish if you are listening um
you know definitely want to hear more about uh about that idea um and then i think just you
know closing this off um i'd say this has been a great conversation um hearing from um you know
from a few folks in the community um one thing that we are also like super cognizant of when
when we're having these discussions is like you you know, we heard from seven people, maybe.
I know there's like so many, so many more people in the community. Not everybody loves getting up on spaces or people have things going on. So if you, you know, if you think after this, like,
hey, you know, here's something I want to share. We've got a few places you can do that.
All of our DMs are open. So, you know, feel free to DM ideas.
There's a Bobu Proposal Discuss channel in Discord. Those are like good places to just like,
you know, share ideas. We can definitely commit to getting back to you quickly,
helping vet things. If you just have feedback, like that's another good place to drop it. We want to just make sure
your voices are heard. That's part of the goal of decentralization. Hard to do. People are in
different time zones. But yeah, if anything resonated in this or good, bad, or other,
let us know and we'll definitely do what we can to support or change course or whatever makes sense.
So with that, I think we're going to shut the spaces down.
Really appreciate everybody showing up.
We've gone over an hour.
You know, we are all Bobu.
I can hear the passion in your voices.
Love the debate.
And we definitely have a lot to chew on after this space.
So thanks, friends.
Thank you, Bobu, for joining.
Thank you, community.
And all future Bobu enjoyers.
Everyone's a Bobu enjoyer.
They just may not know it yet.
Thanks, everybody.
Peace.
