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Stay loudio w/ Ultra
Recorded: May 30, 2025 Duration: 0:57:40Space Recording
Short Summary
Laudio is making waves in the crypto community with its upcoming project launch and token distribution, attracting significant attention from creators and potential partners. The innovative fee-sharing model and strategic collaborations are set to redefine engagement in the Web3 space, indicating a strong growth trajectory for the project.
Full Transcription
Thank you. let's go welcome everyone we're going to wait for a few minutes
to get all our guests
up on the panel
I'm waiting for Shiv as co-host
we're having already
a ton of replies so
I hope I find everyone that I invited
while we wait for them
Ultry you're perfectly on time
welcome to the show how are you doing
yeah hello hello nice to speak again and yeah thanks for having me it's been another
very very loud day we've broken another record yeah it's been an insanely loud day we'll we'll
get into uh into all that shift i send you a co-host invite, that should work.
So, yeah, everyone, welcome.
We're here today to talk a little bit more about Laudio
and a few of the questions that a lot of you asked yesterday
when we announced it.
If you have any questions, feel free to drop them
in the bottom right corner.
We try to get us to
to as many as we can in the show um let us know trouble trouble state audio i see already a lot
of people did that did that already so uh we appreciate that uh we have our guests almost
all up on stage so shift uh good to have you as co-host again. How are you doing? Holy shit, man. Holy shit. What is happening?
The timeline the past couple of days has been
nothing I haven't seen before.
Almost everyone is talking about Laudio. It's pretty insane to see
how much attention it's garnered from a lot of the top creators
to a lot of people who are starting creators to a lot of people who are starting
out to a lot of people who have been trying to find a vertical to talk about and it's it's pretty
intense to see um i was actually just messaging a few people earlier today i was like damn i see
i see you crushing it i see you crushing it it's sick to see that we're in this cycle right now
where the importance of content creation the quality quality of it, and how much time and attention
that you put into it definitely gets rewarded, right?
I think for a while, being a creator
was definitely looked down upon,
but definitely the past couple of months,
due to InfoFi, due to SocialFi,
high quality content and attention is getting rewarded
and we really like to see it.
It's something that Necessary CT was lacking, but it's great to see that um it's something that necessary ct was lacking but it's
great to see that a lot of people are now pivoting to creating content and i mean it helps everyone
right of course you're going to get the spam you're going to get the copy passes this and that
but filtering through that you're going to see a lot of people posting good content and that's
helped it's helping a lot of people around and of course you know getting to that bag but that being said um really excited
for today's show got you god damn we got 50 requests up comment sections down to 250 comments
uh loudio is um it's an understatement uh but whale how are you doing this friday
i'm doing good man as you said the last i think 48 hours were really loud and really busy but
And as you said, the last, I think 48 hours were really loud and really busy.
But yeah, excited to have everyone on today.
So I want to start by saying, so we have Ultra on, of course.
I guess all of you know him already.
But we also have Slade on, who came forward yesterday as one of the co-founders.
So Slade, I want to give you a second to introduce yourself before I throw it into the loud questions.
Hey, GM, GM, yeah, and I think me and Ultra actually just discussed this.
I think we kind of look at ourselves as more co-creators than anything because we really, I think, I've kind of said it on timeline, but we see it in two different ways.
But it's kind of the same where he sees it as an experiment, I see it as art, but both of those have creators behind it, not really founders.
the same where he sees it as an experiment, I see it as art.
But both of those have creators behind it, not really founders.
And so, yeah, I think that's kind of a cool thing,
because at the end of the day, we both just
want this thing to launch and kind of exist on its own.
Let's go.
So my first question to both of you,
I would love to know how did you came up with the idea
or how did you came up with the idea for Laodio in the first place?
for Laudio in the first place?
Yeah, the story is always that the inspiration, at least as described in the article,
was mostly surrounding the usage of Kato as the best distribution mechanism,
with mixing it with Believe, which a very strong uh and working mechanism for redistributing to creators portioning the fees
by utilizing these um it was just about combining the two ingredients and uh you know removing the
product in the middle and trying out an experiment around it right
um yeah on on the larger story i think this was more untold it's like uh uh slade uh dm me like
a month or so ago and um i think so some of the dashboards are made itself it was just
I think so some of the dashboards are made in itself.
It was just, it was like, you know, we should be in touch in the future.
We both like building.
And ever since we kind of like shot ideas at each other.
And one of them was what became loud, basically.
Amazing.
Actually, I want to, I think probably Chillp Pill or Avi are the best people to answer this.
Because I want to, and Ultra, we've been on a call, I think I can share it, I think the day before it officially launched.
And you told me about it.
And I think I thought it was interesting, but I didn't expect it to blow up the way it did.
Did you expect it to, and I will let Chilpil or Avi
guide us through the numbers in a second because they are insane,
but did you expect it, or it's late to you as well,
did you guys expect it to blow up in the way it did?
Absolutely not.
I mean, again, this was going to be a small experiment
and it was built as such.
I thought it would have the same traction
as like the other dashboards I created,
which remain in their niche.
But, you know, in the end, this was a product
or an experiment that was created for Yappers
and Yappers have a big voice.
And so it was very easy to to blow up in terms of
mindshare i think a few things that happened kind of helped uh like you know we went on call and
you liked it and then wanted to talk about it but also could not talk about it because it told you
to not release the details so it created a bit of misinformation.
Everybody was speculating on what was happening.
You know, yeah, I think the mystery really helped.
And in creating this while also having big accounts saying that,
you know, they knew what it was.
So I think overall it was not a very studied marketing strategy,
but it naturally happened and it was absolutely unexpected.
Yeah, and it didn't say numbers.
I don't know, Jill or Avi, who of you wants to answer this,
but guide us through the amount of
mindshare and overall participation.
Yeah, Avi, please go ahead.
That Lout had in the past 48 hours. Yeah, so mean, please go ahead. That Loud had like in the past 48 hours.
Yeah, so in the past 48 hours, for 24 specifically,
they have 73% Mindshare and like every other project in crypto
is kind of like doomed.
And what I mean by that is like,
there's so much content being created about Loud
because like how Mindshare works with a metric,
it just aggregates topics which are indexed
over a
certain period of time there's so much more content going out about loud so like let's say on average
let's say there's a thousand posts per day happening on crypto twitter that's indexed across
different projects as mindshare with the introduction of loud there may be 50 000 and maybe
like 40 or 35 000 of that depending on whatever metric you want to use,
is based on loud content.
So like the other teams in the space
probably should just like go a bit quiet for a couple of days
because like whatever they announce will be hidden.
Like did you guys know OpenSea announced the token yesterday?
Even well, you didn't even tweet about that
until for like hours.
But like in terms of like another stat, Mindshare-wise,
Loud has more Mindshare than East, Bitcoin, and Sold combined,
which is interesting.
So based on someone's tweet, I think it was Moritz,
it's like, raise your targets for FDB predictions.
So yeah.
Yeah, but raise your targets, but also just a little bit.
I think you posted a chart this morning that, you know, usually I did one.
I think I started at 500K market cap.
I think your lowest was 100 million and it got to, I don't even know, 150 billion, I think.
So, I agree, raise the targets, but I don't know if a lot of these predictions will come true at day one.
But Jill, Bill, welcome to the show.
Would love to hear your take on this as well.
Thanks, Will.
Glad to be here.
Yeah, the moon mat, I'm shitposting a lot.
I'm not a shitposter myself.
I'm having fun with this.
It's just a little bit different.
I think it happened at the right place at the right time.
Things were getting a little bit dull with info 5 and and you know it's just it's just a different type of race for
me but it's been insane you know 71 percent mind share on english um speaking crypto twitter for
pretty g that's insane but also abby posted the global mind right that's what was shocking to me
because a lot of people in the comments are like yeah you know this is pretty g mindset well global mind is like 21 22 that's that's absolutely insane um i think you know
lightning in the bottle people say that a lot right place right time right experiment in terms
of the fdv whale like yeah don't take me seriously guys the moon mat is called moon mat for a reason
all right and i always add a disclaimer there i have a very you know shaky quant he's on
drugs don't trust me all right when i talk about marketing i don't know about trading
right i'm just having fun just want to put that disclaimer up there let's go we appreciate you
you're coming on today uh ultra i want to show you like a practical question that i got a lot
uh when i asked uh ask people what they want to know.
And we have 1.1K people in the space, so this could be everyone, this could be a generational
opportunity to get a breaking post out there.
So Ulta, I would love to ask, I know the Zell Audio account posted earlier today that Snapshot
will be taken soon.
Can you give us a timeframe, like how many hours, how many minutes are we talking until Snapshot?
I think very, very soon.
I think some scripts might be running as we speak.
Yeah, that's it.
Let's go.
All right.
So that's the breaking news, everyone.
Oh, we got Legendary up here as well.
That's good.
Abby, I see you with a hand up.
I know Shiv has a couple of questions as well. So we will go Abby, who has, everyone. Oh, we got Legendary up here as well. That's good.
Abby, I see you with a hand up.
I know Shiv has a couple of questions as well.
So we will go Abby, who has his hand up, and then Shiv for his questions.
Well, so just two things from my side.
One, I've been on product mode.
I built a bunch of calculators so that you can be as crazy as you want to be.
If you're a chill pill who wants to put like 15 billion market market cap predictions or like you're conservative and you put a want to put a couple million
you can do that i'll pin that in some time and then like second question and like my most
important question i have for ultra is like how involved is kaido actually in the process
or is it just similar to you guys just using their distribution model because that's i guess
where a lot of my assumptions
would be useful to get some insight onto that.
Yeah, so I think their main role
is definitely being a service provider, in a sense.
We could not exist without the Kato feed,
and also we don't do any extra computation
don't do any extra computation on top of what the rankings they give us are.
on top of what the rankings they give us are.
But, you know, this being an experiment that was
thought of in a very little amount of time,
we, and also like being friends with some of the people on the team,
we just chit chat and try to get feedback on things before we push them out.
It's, yeah, I mean, it's a good relationship overall and uh
yeah they're a good team
love it gonna try them in here uh by the way like whale said we got over 1 000 people tuning in
comment section is about to hit 600 um and people are using tag me if you've got
a question down below to engagement farm uh and people are telling me the bull run isn't here make
it make sense uh ultra some questions from the comment section down below are tokens vested on
day one uh no just claim and uh keep them in your wallet.
You know?
I love that.
Love that. There was a break between claim
and keep them in your wallet.
I didn't know.
I love that.
I think I speak on behalf of everyone.
We love 100% unlock.
Do you have a good solid follow-up question?
Right now, obviously,
you guys are capturing so much attention and mindshare.
It's pretty insane to see.
But sustainability is obviously something that comes to mind
when it comes to, you know, a fresh product
and obviously dominating the timeline.
Go on a comment down below.
Do you believe Stay Loudio TGE will mark the top of the InfoFi meta?
I don't think so. I mean, we already see teams trying to study what happened and wanting
to replicate what happened. And today also came across someone, the enemy, a deal from a new
startup that was trying to also replicate something similar to what we were doing. So it's also inspiring others to create real companies and raise money out of this idea.
So I don't think it marks the top of the meta at all.
More so, it kind of proves how important it is to care about attention, both in the marketing
strategy and also we're going to see in embedding it into
what you're building um yeah that's my thought yeah i think we'll definitely see like uh from
a matchup perspective was so successful that we'll definitely see a few projects going to
similar direction i think we don't know yet what it means for for market cap i think
slate i think you call it again like an experiment i think it will be like a very interesting going in a similar direction, I think. We don't know yet what it means for market cap, I think.
Slade, I think you called it, again, like an experiment.
I think it will be like a very interesting,
very interesting to see the result of that experiment if the tremendous amount of mind share,
and as Abhi said, it's unprecedented
since we caught it with Kaido,
if that translates into some interest
on the trading side as well.
But I want to bring it back a little bit to the model behind Stellaudio.
Of course, we have the 1,000 to get a guaranteed pre-sell access for 0.2 SOL.
I'm pretty sure everyone who's been on X in the past 48 hours has seen the math on that.
So I don't want to dive into that. But I want to get a little bit more info on the kind of fee share model, right?
So I will let you explain it, how it works.
But I would love to know, how did you arrive at the number 25 for the fee share?
Why didn't you go with, you know, 100 or 10 or 500?
How did you arrive at the number 25 cutoff date?
And then I would like to throw it to CryptoLeon as well,
who I think is 26 right now.
So I would love to hear how it feels about that.
But Ultra or Slate,
who wants to take this question, please go first.
Yeah.
Yeah, so the story about the precise number 25
is absolutely random uh so it was just a
number that was one fourth of uh the the amount of data that cato was returning which was 100 results
and then it was expanded over time and the idea was generally just to create a very uh exclusive
pool but which would also feel reachable by top KLLs.
So a good number psychologically that could get people to fight over it
and try to get there and in doing so, increasing mind share for the
Lao token on the other side and achieve the attention increasing
side of the experiment.
And if I could add to this real quick too, I just wanted to add, you know, the InfoFi and this fee kind of structure as well. I think a lot of people are missing a huge thing that could also be
spotlighted, which is that these fees can be used for literally anything. And so like people
can literally get so creative with them. And right now people are only looking at the flywheel part.
I think that's limiting like what is possible with these fees, because I mean, you know,
just as a silly idea, like if you were like a nonprofit with something on chain,
why can't you have the fees go plant trees or do whatever? And because you could do anything that
you could imagine these fees. And so like one do anything that you could imagine with these fees.
And so like one of the goals for me always
was to put a spotlight on fees as a creative function.
I think when you do that, all new worlds unlock.
Like a completely new world
that's been completely unexplored.
So this InfoFi fee structure
definitely should have stuff spawned from it,
but everything else should too.
Very interesting take.
Yeah, I think we saw on the creator side, a lot of people.
I know Semi did it yesterday and some posts about it as well.
Maybe Ultra or Slate, you can dive a little bit more into the fantasy top partnership
that was announced yesterday.
But I think that's one of the use cases cases where you know on a greater level people can share um their uh revenue uh
that's coming in with their community and then of course later as you said there's much more
that can be done like on a project level but ultra um before we go to leon i know i promise leon and
ola uh would love to hear like how did the partnership with Fantasy Top came together?
And what's the current stand on that?
Yeah, no, it was, you know, yourself as well.
Wanted to do rev share with your followers in order to both boost your engagement, but also keep your community, you know, pushing you. And it's a
mechanic that we've seen a lot of demand for across top chaos, right? And so just thinking
about it, what other tools have been used, which kind of needed the same mechanics. On Fantasy Top,
you can buy top creators and have a financial stake in them.
And they also built in the past RepShare, which just was a feature that was not extremely used.
So it kind of feels natural that perhaps we could leverage the tech on their side to a more algorithmic and fair rep share mechanism.
But it's not really a partnership announcement.
We're just exploring if something can be done there.
We're also talking to a lot of other marketplaces
that work on tokenizing creators.
You could use something like time.fun to also do the same
or Glimpse or Tribe Run. tokenizing creators, right? You could use something like time.fun to also do the same,
or Glimpse, or Tribe Run. There's so many kind of platforms that were created in the past
that could be leveraged as a very powerful tool
to either achieve rep share or other mechanisms,
which create kind of a layer two on top of loud.
Let's go. By the way, we have, know shiv is already like the client aggressor we have 50 requests and i'll stay tuned i've never clicked the x button
so many times by the way we're at 1.3 nearly 800 comments um holy shit holy shit well i know you
you have a lot more to yap um but we've got some hands from our lovely guests.
I do want to pan to them.
I don't know who had the hand up first.
You've got to go Leon first.
I skipped Leon twice already.
Oh, is it?
Okay, Leon, we're going to go to you.
Then we'll bounce it around.
Yo, as you may know, I'm 26.
I'm cooked, but my mom didn't raise a quitter.
I'm not here to give up.
I have a few videos lined up.
But actually, I just want to thank you all.
Like, all translate and everybody was participating
because, bro, the timeline was boring for like three, four weeks.
And now everybody's uniting behind something.
And, bro, this is like actually really, really fun.
And, I mean, like like you just give the top
1000 creators a bag to bullpulls
like bro that is insane
I'm excited
we will see if I get into the top 25
but yeah
you crushed it on Pacmoon back in the day
so if you put on similar videos
to Pacmoon I think you will be good
Ola is here with your hand up Ezreal would love to throw it to you So if you put on similar videos to Pac-Moon, I think you will be good.
Hola, I see you with your hand up.
Israel would love to throw it to you.
Yeah, a very quick one.
I just wanted to ask Ultralike.
You know, since it's just top 25, I'm driving, so sorry.
Hey, don't crash, brother.
Don't crash.
I'm not trying to get that tag, but don't crash. Don't worry.
So, quick one here.
You know, like, the whole thing is based on, like, attention and social engagement.
But we know, like, PostyGE is just top 25 that is getting, like, rewarded for, you know, their content and all.
rewarded for their content and all.
For the rest of the guys,
it's just a sort of
incentive model to keep them
still continuing to engage
and make the
content around loud
talking.
So as to ensure the whole
model works, because it goes
both ways. The KOLs talk about
it. Volume goes up
and everything goes high and whatever it is worth, like at TGE, maybe it is going to be worth 2x like the next few days.
So what sort of like incentive model do you have for like, you know, people that are not in the top 25, you know, just to get them involved?
involved yeah i think that uh the role of this top 25 or people trying to fight for these spots
is to again trying to uh maintain the project over time or keep it alive and keep people
interested in it and and engage their community so they support it it's kind of the role of a KOL, right? To take smaller guys and get them railed up about something.
So I guess this is something that could happen.
On the other side, we also have the rev share we should talk about,
which could be another good way that the non-Top 25 creators get
and keep engaged.
The other one and more obvious one is the participation in the IAO,
which will likely give a very good reason to keep yapping about your bag, perhaps.
Yeah, we are going to find out, but also think other people are trying to create layers on top of this, which try to engage the bottom side of the creators.
So I think we kind of have to see what happens in production.
We're talking about a lot of possibilities, but the experiment is not even live.
And then, you know, it's just all then it can go in many directions.
Amazing. Thank you, Ola, for the question.
I want to throw to Legendary in here his take on this whole experiment.
Before I do, though, Ultra, I know Legendary did know you for that.
I think that's the first time I saw you on the timeline as well,
is with your infamous leaderboards of people who sell their,
sell their ultra.
I think we got one for Kaido.
We got one for AICC, like for the pre-sale, I think, back in the day.
I know Legendary was on a lot of them.
So, Ultra, first question is,
will we see a quote-unquote shame board for people who sell their loud airdrop?
And then I would love to hear how Legendary feels about that.
No, I don't think it's super necessary here.
I think the kind of setup for AICC and this one are a little bit different.
I also don't really have the data, right?
What Cato is providing me is just the list of wallets
that people have connected to the Cato website,
and also for privacy reasons,
don't really disclose the connection between the two, right?
Which has been the case also for other dashboards i've built in the past i wanted
to try and connect a name with um with the wallet but very few platforms gonna leak the the linkage
between the two so i don't think we're gonna see it uh if some big brain wants to try to do you
know analysis on previous movements and then tweets,
go ahead.
That will not be the one.
Let's go.
I think a lot of people on this panel right now
are happy about that.
Legendary, welcome to the show.
By the way, I want to see you through a few hearts
in the audience for Legendary.
He told me he canceled his date to be on the show today.
We appreciate that.
Legendary, how are you doing?
Yeah, I've got to have the practice right.
It's important to be loudier these days.
I am doing fantastic because I did realize I moved up one spot to spot 14.
But going back on a more serious note to your uh question about the
experiment what i really like is not only all the like layers of game theory that i've like posted
about but especially i feel like this is the biggest stress test kaito has ever experienced
like you have creators who are like now seeing okay what does it mean when something has a 72% mind share as Laudio has right now?
Does the algorithm work? How do I get ranked in that? How do I move in that? How is Kaito tracking all of that?
Are they handling this like excess of attention on a single project?
And I think as an extension of that, there's a lot of interesting data that will will come from this. I had pinged Ultra in the morning to ask
about unique visitors over the last 48 hours in the morning. That stat was was it 71? Was it 78k
Ultra? You replied to that, which is an insane amount. And just given how high the mind shares,
I feel like this could be one of the proxies to even get a good feeling how many people are still active or are active on the timeline and how many people is CT constituting off.
So I think just from the perspective of the data that we get on that, because a project or an experiment has managed to get such a tremendous overweight on attention, it's super fascinating.
And I feel like a lot of lessons for founders, creators, builders in there to learn
if you want to look at that data.
So just on top of the game theory,
the whole learnings and the whole
data we can get from that, I find super intriguing.
Yeah, we're actually, we doubled the number
today in visits on the website.
We're now at almost 120k for
the past two days of
visits.
That's absolutely insane.
I want to throw it to you, Loki has his hand up in a while.
Loki, okay I had a joke here, I will ask you, is it okay for me to choke or no?
Yeah man, I'm used to it.
I wanted to say, Loki usually doesn't tweet for 0.2 pre-sales.
He only tweets for 0.4 meme coins.
That's a deep Loki joke right here.
So I don't know how many people get it.
But Loki, welcome to the show.
Would love to hear your take.
What do you think about Laudio?
Did you participate?
Where do you think this is going?
Yeah, bro, thanks for the intro.
Amazing joke. But yeah,
of course I participate. I mean, I feel like it's just stupid don't when you see all these
kind of incentives and once you understand. Personally, I didn't understand until two days
ago, so I wasn't. But anyway, yeah, I understand it was an experiment.
And yeah, you guys crushed it.
Also, it was unexpected what you guys achieved.
My question to you guys is, the model clearly works.
I'm not sure about the Kaido curation. So linking to what Legendary says, stress testing Kaido,
let's say tomorrow you want to apply your model to another project.
Would you do manual curation?
I'm talking about the content that people are going to post.
So what I feel like we went crazy.
I mean, I was part of the problem too everybody was was posting like
farming whatever shit came out so would you go for a manual creation approach would you
like or work with kairo to improve the product uh what would it be
i think overall right now there's nothing necessarily wrong with the rankings.
It's just that people just associate being loud
with a ranking and mindset,
but not necessarily like if you want to get ranked,
your content should also be useful.
It should not be spam and so on, right?
But what people were doing
was just putting loud at
the end of sentences right or commenting loud that doesn't really get you points although you know
it enhances the the visibility so yeah i think we we have an expert on the call bandit that knows
exactly how everything works on the algorithm side uh he's the best player of the
algorithm uh i don't think i would necessarily change anything um you know there's been a little
bit of um uh contrasting opinions on whether there should be loyalty uh turned on or off
if you guys don't know, or Bandit,
if you want to explain it,
we have the best.
Yeah, I can take it.
I don't know if you guys know.
You probably know it.
I think Kaido even have been open about this,
but there is a loyalty filter.
So if you're on 20 leaderboards
and you're competing against someone who's on three,
you're at a disadvantage
because you're not very loyal. kaito has a little mechanism in place to uh to make it more difficult because they
don't want anyone to be on like every leaderboard i used to do that i used to be a sinner and uh
i think a lot of people were doing that and kaito saw that as a problem so in the current algo uh
loyalty is rewarded and i think that's the case also for loud, I believe.
I don't know, but I believe so.
Damn, I'm on a lot of leaderboards.
I need to change it for next week.
Bandit, while we have you on the show, though,
we'd love to hear because that's something people ask a lot as well.
So while we have you on here for the Kai2 algo questions,
is it true that if you do negative or
ulter maybe you can ask it as well is it true if you do negative content or if your content has
like a slightly negative sentiment towards loud or like any data board project is it true that that
can slash your your mind share that is a mechanism that every project decides. So it can be that it reduces your mindshare
if they opt in for that.
But usually it's just that it doesn't get counted.
So it doesn't actually slash you.
It just, if you're negative in a post,
it usually just doesn't pick it up.
So yeah, I don't know what the case is for loud,
so I'm not going to comment.
But usually projects opt in for like,
they don't slash you, but they just don't count it it because it makes no sense to reward people for fighting or talking
shit about you in my opinion
that makes sense ultra is that how it works do you want to share or no yeah I
think you can explain the right way yeah All right. I want to throw it to Chillpil, then Abi, then Vincent.
Chillpil, I don't know if you have any takes on the algorithm questions.
Would definitely love to hear because you've been tweeting about it a lot for Kaido and like general leaderboard.
So if you have any tips or ideas to share here, please go ahead.
Yeah, sure.
And then I would love to ask Ultra a question.
What Bandit says is true.
If you're on a bunch of leaderboards, it's harder for you to rank high on one of them.
But this is a problem because you can rank on leaderboards without even posting about something.
I'm on a couple of leaderboards.
I never post about those projects.
And so I think that the way this works is that if you reply to posts as well even
if you don't really use the keywords of the project you're part of conversations that earn
mind from a different leaderboard you're going to find yourself on those leaderboards so
what i'm saying is basically that you know for example in your case well it's kind of impossible
to not be on many leaderboards you know because you're participating in conversations around
krypton different topics even if you don't want to compete or farm it or get up on the leaderboard
you're going to see yourself there right so you're at the disadvantage i would add something else as
well that i've observed um you know you look at number of followers zeneca made a post about this
in the fantasy top era especially accounts who come from 2021 2022 and have a lot of dead weight
um i'm one of them i don't have as much as zeneca of course but you're at the disadvantage here i
have noticed this with kaito as well so i don't know as much as Zeneca, of course, but you're at the disadvantage here. I've noticed this with Kaito as well.
So I don't know for sure, because nobody knows,
but I think there's something when it comes to the algorithm.
If you have 76,000 followers and half of those are inactive,
it's going to be harder for you to earn Mindshare
than someone with 20,000 followers, right?
So it's not the followers game.
That's what I want to say.
And the question I want to ask Kultra,
because this is something I see a lot of people
being confused about, and slade is here too um you guys are the creators of this experiment right
people sometimes associate that with founders they have expectations what's going to be your
involvement um with this experiment post g maybe post first week what should people expect from from you guys yeah i think uh we are going to first of all observe second always come in in this kind of
spaces together feedback and seeing you know what could be improved but overall as we said many
times this is something that gets created and it's put in the market and it's uh it's up to the kols and
participants of the experiment to take good care of this tool as i said many times there's a very
very clear incentives for the the top kls to to keep this thing alive it's the best chance they
ever had to make possibly seven figures a week in real cash, right, by just engaging and talking about something
and getting their communities involved.
So, yeah, I think we're going to observe.
Hopefully everything works as intended.
If it needs some tweaks on the distribution mechanisms, we're going to see based on feedback.
But overall, it should, at least for the initial period,
should have a much more hands-off approach.
I'm just saying one, by the way.
Can I have a follow-up to that?
I want the results to come in.
Oh, sorry.
Go ahead, Slade.
No, I was just saying, I agree with everything he says.
I want the results to come in, because everyone
has speculations whether this is going to work or not work.
And the truth is, nobody knows.
It's completely unknown.
That's why it's interesting.
So get the results first.
But I can say the one thing I'm super excited on is also like developing the brand i feel like we have the
chance to become like a really cool authentic raw web3 brand and at least we can continue developing
that while we see the experiment kind of run its course i just want a quick follow-up can i well
yes quick please um who's gonna pay for the next three little trap that's a good
question
let's see a man some now we have so many so many new players right we have a
true sue as well so free AC is officially participant I saw Pintoshi
also ultra I don't know if you saw
he was also talking about loud so we got like that's crazy yeah we got like the ogs of the ogs
everyone is once a piece of the pie we almost talked about it but didn't say the name
no i think he was in in the place yeah i've seen everyone like all the big names i i know from from
last cycle like everyone is talking about this.
Maybe not in main post, but in replies I've seen pretty much everyone.
So I think they're just waiting for it to start and then they're gonna come out of the forest.
Damn, the Meads in Top 25 could get very competitive, is that what you're saying?
I believe so. I'm shaking. I'm in third place. I'm shitting my pants every day
when I wake up. So I can't imagine what it's like when it starts. Let's go. Before we go to Abi,
one second, I want to throw it to CryptoLeon real quick because I don't know who asked the question,
but like about can we build like a broader ecosystem here or what's the role of the creators? Leon, I know for PacMoon, there was like a lot of like ecosystem that was built out,
not by, you know, Lambo or the founders, but more like by other apps wanting a piece
of like the viral mindshare pie of PacMoon and they integrated it into, you know, their
products in whatever ways.
Do you think something like that is possible here as well, that maybe other InfoFi projects see the success
or the mindshare of Laudio and want a piece of pie of that
by adding it to the platforms?
I know Internet's already treated, it's not a huge one,
but already treated that they will add it, I think,
to the swap feature.
So from your experience, because you've been one of the creators
who've been really at the top of PacMoon,
do you think we can see something similar here?
Hey, sorry, guys.
Snapshot Taken, by the way.
Oh, Snapshot Taken?
Did it treat?
Yeah, snapshot taken.
Snapshot taken four minutes ago,
ladies and gentlemen. Okay,
the checker will be up soon on the website
to verify. Okay, I hope everyone
in the space made the top 1000.
Thank you, Loki, for bringing that up.
Leon, would love to hear your answer
before I throw it to Avi.
Yeah, 100%. I mean,
with PacMoon, I think, not not only this but i think the top 25
creators will get um even more rewards and airdrops from different projects and that's also what was
uh back then during pacmoon i mean i make good money out of pacmoon but i made almost more out
of the other who wanted to bribe me and whatever and i already see it and not
necessarily like the project integrating but i got like four or five games today who said yeah
you're crushing it on the leaderboard whatever do you want to be our ambassador so that is that is
getting insane i think that um in the end a lot of projects will have integrated in any way
in the end a lot of projects will have integrated in any way probably loud and i hopefully uh think
that uh that this will be also the case because i think that that that would make a lot of sense
not only for the top 25 credits bar but maybe for the top 100 top thousand and yeah
interesting abby please go ahead, Azor, with your hand up.
Yeah, so I just searched on Cookie, and apparently there's been 58,000 posts on Loud in the past 24 hours.
I don't know what their algorithm works, and I'm sure it's more than that, but that's like a minimum benchmark, which is just like pretty cool to see.
And in the past seven days, it was only like 75,000
or so so like the traffic in the past 24 hours and maybe a bit beyond that has been absurd and
like never seen again and probably will never be seen again uh I have my own thoughts which I'll
drop a tweet later today but I have one question before I have to drop off and that is for the top 25 I assume we have to wait until
trading to be live for that snapshot to be taken but is there sort of like
any insight you can share on on the top 25 leaderboard is fees restricted just to Meteora
because I assume we have a lot of demand from like exchanges and everyone else who wants a piece of
this attention and lastly will you consider yourself
as part of the fee distribution as well yeah so it's a lot of questions um so on the distribution
the first one should happen around uh seven days from tge that's kind of the idea so uh seven days
after the fees get start to get accumulated which i think is the the fairest
thing inside on there is as bandit was saying there is a loyalty factor there so possibly
people that have started talking about it this week already will have some kind of slight boosts
which follows them over the next one um that's my understanding but bandit feel free to correct me
one um that's my understanding but bandit feel free to correct me um what were the other questions
is it just limited to meteor fees because i'm i assume there's yeah exchange demand and then
that's there you're going to include yourself yeah yeah so on on the tariff fees yes that's going to be the main source of liquidity, right?
I don't think we would have any other source at the beginning.
Of course, if there's any such as exchange listing, then it cannot really go through the deck pools. And so there will be a little bit of leakage over there.
But yeah, right now, that's the main source on my position on the leaderboard i'm not entirely sure yet what how to handle it
or if i should do fee splitting or anything i haven't uh thought about it too much i think
we see on many platforms many times uh founders being like the top card or top token or something like
that or in the in phinex leaderboard all the employees are participating or all contrasting
uh ways like the arbitrary leaderboard where all the employees are disqualified right i'm not
entirely sure i'll you know if if i do manage to stay in the top 25, I'll think of something good.
I think there's going to be a lot of competition even for me.
What do you mean if you do manage?
You're like top at, I think, 2%.
The second one, I think, is at 0.8%.
Yeah, that's because I put out all the news and people retweet me.
But if there's no more news, I don't know how i can survive we'll see we'll
see uh vincent i see we have a little while uh please go ahead gm everyone happy to be here
among the legends uh i will not bug you a lot just a quick question for ultra uh how nft communities
can utilize what you are offering here because uh I think this is the most undervalued
asset that is overlooked by many communities and as we know all of us here coming from NFT spaces
and we are rocking and rolling with NFT communities and we would like to know more about that if you
have any tips or strategy because with MadLads we agreed to go all in
on Laudio because we share the same ethos, we share the same passion, we share the same chaos
so the idea is community to eat and we publicly stated that we're not hiding and that's the way
how I see as a community manager how we can grow together as a brand and as a niche individual.
So do you have any tips and tricks for NFT communities?
Because this is, as I said, most under looked asset in this whole story, in my case.
That's a good question.
Integration with loud itself.
I have to think about it.
I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no then that's super easy, right? You have a probability of who is owning what
inside of the community, so you can do,
so you can have a ref share, super easy.
Do you have any strategy or tips how we can enhance that
and how we can push?
Do you have any tip for me, what I can do
with my community to help that?
To get to the top 25?
Yeah, yeah.
Good, Good question.
You can bribe them.
I don't know.
I think competition is going to be extremely, extremely hard.
We're going to see also what kind of subgroups get created.
Maybe we're going to see a Milady also sub-community
trying to push it and then revshare
to all the you know cold token
holders i have no idea um we're gonna see what happens uh the for for your specific nfc community
i'm not entirely sure maybe is laid uh is is more creative on this i i think that if you're
club communities that will as well help you because you will have a longevity.
And, you know, we know that NFT communities are diehard and they are going to ride with you.
So I think maybe some kind of leather board for NFT communities might be a great play.
I don't know.
I think creativity solves everything and just be creative with it.
I think even this idea itself, I consider myself creative and I know Ultra does too, right?
This came from a creative group.
So it's really just like creativity solves everything.
Every most viral campaign ever has a foundation in creativity.
And not only creativity.
Vincent, I'm sorry.
We got to move on.
We have 30 minutes left.
We want to be respectful of Ultra's time.
So I got to keep it moving.
But thanks for coming up.
Ben, let's see you with the hand on.
And then we'll throw it to Ole again.
Yeah, I think I got a pretty good and easy to answer question.
I've been in these spaces with Ultra.
I think he's like the third or fourth.
And I've heard he's gotten a lot of annoying questions.
I want to give him a hug sometimes.
But Ultra, I was thinking the .2 soul,
have you decided, is it going to be like an NFT ticket mint?
Is it going to be an address where we just send the soul?
Have you figured out what the process is?
Yeah, so there's going to be like a custom page,
there's a custom smart contract,
which accepts exactly 0.2 soul.
Yeah, all figured out out and then after that
you know the the equity pool is set up and then cleaning uh begins so like a custom smart contract
custom front end that does it cool that's all let's go how so step that was taken uh like 15
minutes ago will we get like the the page and everything sometime today
tomorrow Monday yeah whenever I end this space I'm gonna get you know trying to
build it everyone we got ten minutes left they will let ultra go to build the
page don't worry actually I just got a got a quick follow-up question now that I just asked that.
It reminded me.
Ultra, we're going to have an announcement from the Laudio Twitter account.
Like, now week one is live or some shit like that.
Like, a starting tweet.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Yeah, like, all public communication will come from there.
And just sit posting from
a main as well and then dropping some alpha sometimes but i'm trying to keep you know the
main account for just informational content uh yeah we're gonna see uh you know like uh
aio is now live and uh token trading is now live the first week has begun uh just on the precision of exactly uh when the
cutoff is for the first week i'm gonna have to kind of see uh right now the keto feeds at least
the ones they gave me uh cannot filter too precisely by the minute and stuff so yeah just
that's why i say like roughly seven days cool yeah you know i i i you, I have like 25 bangers drafted that I'm holding myself back from posting them because I need them during the week. So I need a clear, now it's started and then I can start posting them.
Now, one of the reasons why we did the space, by the way, Ultra, we got to get a lot of good clips from that.
So I don't have content problems for next week either.
So Ben and I are on the same page here.
We are Karma up on stage.
Karma, you asked a very good question in your reply.
She already asked, I think, in the beginning, could this be the InfoFi top?
But would still love to hear your take on all this.
And maybe if you have a question
for Ultra or Slade. Yeah, hello, everybody. I'm a reformed hater turned Laudio enjoyer for the
past six hours or so. But I'm not going to repeat the question as a waste of everybody's time here.
We already heard your take. But something I wanted wanted to bring up i am not really that curious
who is in the top 25 i am curious who will be the thousand and one number on the leaderboard
so here i hereby petition to publish the person who is a thousand and one yes and we can do a
crowdfunding pity party for them uh with like maybe a little donation from the winners because that
would be really really funny. I just pinned that written eight hours ago can
everyone just read that and take into account what Karma said? Wait wait wait
I'm reading it right now it will be so incredibly embarrassing if you suggested
the same thing. In poker, we call that bubble boy.
Let's go.
No, that's a good idea. I will definitely chip in there for that
place 1001.
Poor guy.
We're going to make it happen.
Yeah, I actually did a screenshot earlier
of the, I think, from
on words to see who jumped out out once Snapchat was taken so I might
check it after the show. But we have eight minutes left. Ola, maybe a quick question then, Chilpil.
My question was around NFTs and seeing that we have like 1,000 people right now,
have you ever thought about making an NFT for the 1,000 that is in the snapshot?
When Matt Vincent asked earlier about how this model can be used in NFT,
have you ever thought about replicating this model for NFT?
So I guess the question also was if I understood it correctly, if we will get
maybe a stale out NFT collection similar to how Kaido did it.
how Kaido did it?
I don't think from my side, but I saw someone was creating a NFT collection.
I think his name was Tut, T-U-T.
So, I mean, we're going to see quite a few community initiatives.
This one by Tut was like profile pictures of the logo of Laudio with pieces of lore.
For example, there's one with a background of the fish and one which has hats doing weird things.
I think you guys can check out his profile.
CUTEE underscore.
Yeah, let's go.
Yeah, I think it's really cool that there's a lot of community-based initiatives forming around this.
So it's not like the main creators, also you or Slate, necessarily doing all this stuff,
but a lot of creators or a lot of people in the
community doing this as well.
Chilpi, I'm going to give you the last question, so I hope it's a good one.
Yeah, I just wanted to say first, I think Max Payne is going to be number 26 on the
leaderboard after the first week.
I think you guys should also prepare for that.
I know 1001 is going to suck, but 26, bro.
Quick take on Ola's question question because i had time to think he
was talking about what's the incentive for people outside of the top 25 to tweet about this or
support this after the launch by my calculations and my quant is right uh we have 5 000 holders
we're gonna have at first so you're gonna have holders right what's the incentive for any meme
coin holder to tweet about it i think it's price go up i think a lot of people are missing that it's not just an experiment for the uppers right like you're
gonna have holders and traders so i think you know everyone holds the token is gonna be incentivized
that's my take and the quick question for slade man i love slate he talks about creativity so
beautifully um you post some banger videos bro um you know what's gonna be your role in terms of like
You post some banger videos, bro.
What's going to be your role in terms of shaping the meme culture?
Because you're giving off some vibes, right?
The account has a lot of engagement, I think.
Do you have a plan or do you plan posting maybe a video every week?
How do you look at your role as a creative in the shaping of this meme coin culture that we're going to have for a lot?
Oh, man, that's so hard.
I haven't thought about it that far yet because we're still weighing results.
And honestly, like, we don't even know our total next move because there's so much, like, opportunity.
There's so much to do.
But strictly in terms of brand, we have just a general solid direction that took a lot of focus to get to.
And so I'll give you, like, the base idea.
The base idea is, like, okay, well,
if this is like kind of like for the trenches, right?
What are the trenches?
I went down like a long rabbit hole,
but I define that as like the trenches to me
are modern day punk rock.
And that's kind of what you see in like the posts
and that type of branding.
And so I want to double down on that
and kind of expand on what that can become.
Amazing. Thanks so much, Slade.
Thanks so much, Ultra, for coming on the show
today. We'll let you go so you can
work on the...
Oh, Ultra chopped off.
I do have one more follow-up question.
A few people are tagging me in. Some people are
asking, is it too late to change their
wallet on the website?
I don't know how you guys
entered the wrong wallet but some people are asking
is it ultra just jumped off
yeah ultra jumped off
I just added that
I don't have the answer for that one
because Kato is handling that side
so I'll have to check on that
okay maybe we can
get the answer in the reply slater
so ultra ultra is back so as I said Okay, maybe we can get the answer in the replies later.
So Ultra is back.
So as I said, Ultra, Slate, thanks so much for taking the time today.
I know this must be a super busy few days for you guys,
so I appreciate you taking the time to come on today.
Thank you for having us.
Awesome.
Let's go.
Thanks so much, everyone, for tuning in. Thank you to the other speakers that we we had on today as well it's gonna be an interesting 48 hours we
we got the got the launched and we got the the first week of of competition uh we'll see what
happens appreciate everyone tuning in today 1.4k uh concurrent listeners so i think that could be
a new record shift what do you think we're definitely like close to close to our top so
thanks everyone for tuning in we'll be back next week have a great day bye
