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SUI mega space with WET & AXOL 🚀😀
Recorded: June 12, 2025 Duration: 0:55:48Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, the Axel team shared insights on their growth strategies, including the launch of a TikTok account to engage a broader audience, and the introduction of a new meme character to enhance community identity. They emphasized the importance of partnerships and ongoing fundraising efforts to navigate market challenges, particularly in light of recent events affecting the Sui ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What's going on, Axel Familia?
This is Keith behind the main account. I was getting bored of hearing that.
So I had to stop that from going on. We are waiting for the sponsored guest today wet to come in.
But in the meantime, I figured I'd start things up and hear from the Axel Familia. So I see Wolf.
How are you doing, my brother?
Hey, what's up, Keith? What's up, Axel Familia? What's up, Axel? Because you are alive, Axel.
How are you doing, guys? No, I'm doing good. I'm pretty busy with Occupy today, IRL, but
I'm pleased that we are also now having an official
TikTok account of Axel
so now all these things are set up
so we can
start to bullpost also on the other
social media channels that are also
important
for crypto projects we see a lot of
crypto projects on these channels too
so that's something we need to be as well
so happy to work on these channels too so that's something we need to be as well so happy
to work on that and the content that uh excel is making the last month and of course the content is
already tier uh s tier from the beginning right the content is really cool but now these videos
are getting alive and excel is evolving becoming more major more major. It's really bullish to see Axel moving, you know,
and the artists that we work with
is doing an incredibly good job as well.
So everybody in the Axel team and the community
is doing an amazing job.
As well, the activity that we said in the last space,
the activity on Telegram, it's increasing.
We are almost sending every day a few times on radar, so that's cool to see.
So that definitely means that we are again starting to check all these checkboxes that is important on activity side of things in the project, so on the meme side, activity on the project,
but also, Keith, congrats to you.
You're always inspiring me
because I know you sometimes share your schedule
and you see 30 patients,
and you are still partnering
and doing chats with VET in the back scenes,
doing chats with other devs out there and you're always on the hunt out there to do collaboration.
So definitely bullish on that.
And it inspires me, guys.
I mean, if you see that a lot of people in crypto, and then of course I will pass my guys, but a lot of people in crypto, especially this cycle, a lot of people are tired right now.
And this is actually the moment when you are getting tired. That's the moment that you need to stay around.
You cannot just leave because you got a few times rugged in some projects in the past or your your wallet got drained, or your X account got
suspended.
There are so many things that can happen in this space.
So imagine what Keith went through, right?
And he's still cooking here.
So I really believe that everybody was still in the game, right?
Or if you are just joining, you are on the right time.
You did not come too late
you maybe learned a lot on this period i i mean i learned a lot in the last year
um just being around in crypto full time so we are all going to make it guys if you are here now
with us with excel and on the other projects on sui that i see a lot of people here as well in space.
It's actually pretty full.
Then I think we are all going to make it to the Valhalla together.
And who knows, we will be walking on those events together
and meet each other and have an incredible time.
So bullish on the space, happy to know more about that.
I'm going to stop stop speaking for now but
hey guys we are not leaving this party is just about to start well we
appreciate you crypto wolf thank you for popping up and we did have our featured
guest today wet pop but I did just want to comment on that and say thank you for
that everybody realize that there's gonna be ebbs and flows in these markets
and there's gonna be times you're bearish and bullish.
But my suggestion always has been that I love memes and you don't always have to go all
in on only just one meme.
You can invest in multiple memes.
And like you said, these class systems, whether you say S tier, A tier, I always laugh because
I really don't understand how they pick the letter S as the best and A as beneath it. But whatever sequence that you're going to make these memes, I suggest stacking up
on the ones. And the ones that you really do fall in love with that actually support, those are the
ones that you hold. And those are the ones you DCA into. And those are the ones that you're not
checking every day and not getting concerned when there's big parabolic moves because you're
thinking about holding it, like you said,
into a Valhalla. And then you could play in the trenches with the other ones that are just coming
out. But you're always looking for experienced teams, experienced builders. And that's how I
came across the wet team. I see Juan down there. I want to say thank you to him. He's got his
beautiful Juan's seen a picture with Axel. But I always tell him, hey, if you hear any good teams
that are reputable,
let me know about them. I always want to interview them and kind of get to know those people and vet them. And I saw this team come onto the SUI ecosystem. I got a chance to actually talk
with them behind the scenes, get to know their team and their experience. And once I really got
to knowing them, I thought that they're a really great project. And I was excited to hear that they
came over to SUI to start building. So without further ado,
just wanted to say hi to the WET team here who is behind the account today.
What's up? What's up, brother? How are you?
Fantastic. I actually just got off a busy, busy day at work and driving home. So doing this live
in the car. Well, I just had a lunch meeting and booked my
ass back here to get on here. So I was a few minutes late. Apologies, it's not my style,
but I, yeah, similar day. So been running a little bit hot, but excited for this. And thank
you guys for having us. Really appreciate it. Yeah. So we always like to get into kind of backgrounds about,
you know, a team when they kind of got into crypto and, you know, what got you into memes
to begin with. So we can start there. Yeah, no worries. I mean, for myself,
I've been in the space for probably close to 10 years. Originally, just a Bitcoin maxi kind of from the jump and for a few years kind of just held that
you know and I think the start of the meme wave for me was like when BSC started to get really hot
originally and and SUI kind of reminds me of the early days of BSC, kind of better communities than Solana,
an environment where projects have the ability to thrive over a longer period of time.
You know, I've been involved in the Solana culture since it started, and it's safe to
say that we can't really compare much to that.
So I've dabbled in everything, but, you know, Bitcoin brought me to the space.
BSC made me get into memes, I suppose, right?
One of my first meme coins was a coin called Baby Cake way back.
And it was kind of just exhilarating and, you know, never seen a community like that.
I mean, we had hundreds of people on voice chat. It was kind of just exhilarating and, you know, never seen a community like that.
I mean, we had hundreds of people on voice chat kind of any hour of the day we'd fire up a call.
It was completely psychotic.
That coin ran to over 100 million with a big group of chads.
And that's kind of started the that started the whole quest for me.
So that's that's the origin of where I began. Um, you know, I'm, I'm helping support this team. So I've known these guys from other projects. Uh, Sui Jack
was one of them. Um, I helped kind of collaborate a bunch of different moves for Sui Jack, um,
you know, help those guys organize their marketing, was the voice of the project when they needed spaces and things like that and worked a lot behind the scenes.
So I dipped my toes into the Sui ecosystem and that was the first coin I was involved with.
And, you know, I've held Sui for, I don't know, probably a year and a half or something like that.
And as I learn more and research more and kind of understand the, you know, function that this blockchain could have in the real world,
world uh there's a lot of strong ties to you know meta historically and a good use case for this
coin to be used as a currency in marketplaces or other things like that so sui as a whole i'm
bullish on i've got some good experience uh kind of connecting in this in the space on this side and
you know um just excited about the future. I mean, like you said earlier, there's bullish
times, there's bearish times. Um, I've never been bearish on Sui. Uh, I've been bearish on
ETH. I've been bearish on BSC. I've been mega bearish on Solana at times. And Sui just kind of,
I just see it growing continuously. if it's slow it's going to
continue to gain attention and uh a lot of the folks that you meet on this side of the world
are really really great people so yeah that's a little back backstory i guess about me um without
talking on too long no that's great and uh it's glad to hear that you've been around a year and
a half on sui i've been building probably about coming up close to a year, probably at that year mark now,
and did a lot of research with it and liked how it was unique with the programming language
and got a chance to hear from all the founders and compare and contrast their thought processes
on long-term blockchain and its use cases.
And we all love memes and know how they're the onboarding mechanism,
but you like to have that support from the founder side. And I saw that happening over on Sui. So glad to hear that. What are some things you've seen on Sui in the past year and a half that
you're kind of bullish on? I mean, I just see that it, like you said, I mean, it offers a lot on the technical side for how people utilize it with integrating it into business and the real world.
I think that's where I'm most bullish.
You know, the transaction fees are very low.
It's an easy chain to build on.
And I think it's at a spot where the barrier to entry is low also.
So I see it, you know, where the barrier to entry is low also.
So I see it, you know, being easy to adopt for the masses, getting people into Ethereum at the price it's at.
And kind of the dysfunction that's on chain, you know, it's just attractive to everybody.
I don't see any downsides, I more than like um tons of pros i just see lots of cons with other blockchains and i i see a lot of uh you know just hope with this chain man it's easy
to adopt and it will have a lot of future function in the world and then you know kind of besides
all that it's like where it started, all the ties to meta,
the fact that this could be essentially a project started by Zuckerberg. Who knows? You know,
it's interesting. So yeah, I just see it being adopted. There's some rumors and myths out there
that it'll be the future currency of the whole meta world. And, you know, that's exciting. And also just the people, man.
I don't know what it is, but there's some good folks that like to hang out here.
So, like I said, it reminds me of those early BSC days where the communities were just lit up, man.
And people are passionate and kind of just more normal.
I think the Solana culture has ruined a lot of people.
A lot of people have got, you know, liquidated heavily over the last year or a little bit longer.
And things move a little bit slower, but it's more methodical.
And it actually allows people to have a chance to build instead of just people finding the flavor of the day the next day.
of just people finding the flavor of the day the next day and um even if you have a good idea and
and a good team and a group of people who are integral um the market kind of wrecks you on
that side of things and i just like that it provides the environment to build over time and
build deep connections and um kind of curate a nice community. You need time to do that, right? Like you can't do that in a day.
So I just like the environment, brother. Yeah, I echo the same sentiment I noticed when I was
on Solana doing meme coin trading. You pretty much just did your one or two trades and just
supported that with community spaces, but I really didn't see founders and team members interacting with other projects and getting to know each other and seeing what's unique about them.
And I feel like on SUI, we've had a chance, I know, with the Axel team getting to know some of these infrastructure plays like EECA or Native.
Oh, yeah.
It's just cool to see that.
I feel like you're recognized outside of just being a meme is being a part of that system.
Whereas I feel on the other chains is more separate, you know, like these are memes, these are NFTs and these are infrastructure.
And there was really no cross communication between the two like we're doing today on spaces with, you know, two memes on Sui.
games on suey so no it's good to see you guys have that same type of philosophy and vision and um
So it's good to see you guys have that same type of philosophy and vision.
so you have this wet water creature what's kind of the thought on that that was the inspiration
and artist and all that yeah i mean we've got a we've got a few artists on boarded um
and we'll just continue to cook the art i suppose so. So, um, you know, we don't have a famous artist, uh, that, that drew this up, you know,
just being, just being honest. Um, that's not tied to, you know,
a well-known name, but we kind of like that too.
Like a lot of people have written the Matt Fury hype, for example.
So that's tied to somebody's art, you know,
who's quite famous and it makes sense that those would blow up. Um, but we're inspired by the style, right? So, you know, it's a, it's a mysterious
creature. We don't really know exactly what it is. We, we messed with a couple of concepts,
but there's a bit of mystery with this, uh, you know, dog-like or cat-like creature,
if you want to call it, um from the lake you know the whole theme
around the wet one is it's made of water and you know kind of corresponds to the branding on suey
and uh you know we're focused on being community driven uh creating a cult you know generating
great art and uh collaborating with other communities that appreciate the work
that we're doing um you know it's rooted in cryptic lore but i would say that our goal over
time is to be like the brett on base or like the pepe on eth you know is uh kind of that style of
dgen character that people can relate to that matches the sui branding so that's kind of that style of degen character that people can relate to that matches the sui branding so
that's kind of some of the the concept behind the meme um and there's more of a mysterious
narrative behind it um that will evolve over time so that's kind of the backstory with it and um
you know the vision over time is to just continue to grow it we're we're patient
we understand that market swing there will probably go through you know even just within
a month here like this coin is a month old roughly and the market conditions have been up and down
within just a month like the space is crazy so, we're not too phased by that.
Like I said earlier, like the CWI ecosystem gives people the opportunity to build over
time and, um, and connect along the way. So that's a bit about the backstory. Um,
you're, uh, at the end, your mouthpiece was covered but I got it I actually think the
water creature is awesome I like that it's unique and I've always been a fan of original kind of
concepts and art that's how we came up with Axel and wanted to have the naming be unique like that
so I appreciate the uniqueness of the wet character. I think you guys got great
art and I saw a lot of the cool art before coming on this space. So your artist is definitely legit.
And so what are your thoughts now? You got one month under your belt and we're going into
this third quarter coming up soon. Any big plans on the agenda for the project?
soon any big plans on the agenda for the project?
Yeah, I mean, we're so, yeah, good question.
I mean, we experienced the Cetus hack, if you will,
and that kind of kicked us in the balls a little bit, right?
We were kind of ramping up to start our spaces push.
I know that it's super important on SUI in general. People like to connect and talk
and you see big numbers in these spaces and really if you're not willing to go and represent
a team, people don't really want to deal with you. So we're kind of hitting that phase a bit later
than we initially anticipated. We've had one community space earlier this week, and that was our first one
more strategically because we didn't want to host a space with like so much uncertainty with what
what the outcome be outcome would be with the the CETUS hack. So once we got past that,
and we realized it was going to be a good outcome, then we've started kind of our true Twitter push and getting involved in these spaces and with other communities.
And, you know, starting to onboard that next level of exposure for ourselves and connecting with kind of a higher tier group of people to get some exposure along the way.
You know, content is king. So good things take time. We're working on animations.
We're working on the base concept for the NFT profile pictures that will come later down the
road. And, you know, the goal there is not so much to make money but to give our community something that they can
you know represent wet with and kind of have an identity themselves so we're seeing nfts kind of come back into the limelight there was a period of time even when we did seaweed jack
that it was just dead there wasn't much appeal there but you're starting to see kind of a comeback with
that so you know we're we're continuing our push on twitter we're onboarding a few excellent people
in the next week and we're going to be continuously working on art and kind of start a renewed push
you know we got up to 1.3 million off the hop and we got cooked by
Cetus and we had a bunch of momentum so uh we kind of got the wind knocked out of our sails
and we're in like a mini rebuild to to start a renewed push um now that the smoke's cleared with
that so those are a couple things coming down the line um you, we are working on a form of utility that I'm not supposed
to get too far into, but we're thinking more outside the box. What can we offer our holders
that helps them navigate the SUI blockchain and ecosystem? And if they held our token,
would they be able to use some tools that might benefit them through their experience. So we're looking at a couple of token-gated utilities that our holders will benefit from.
Like I mentioned, onboarding some bullish partners, and then we're cooking the art in the background in the meantime.
And I think that, you know, for the next little while, we're just going to hit the spaces super hard.
Like we'll be on here three four times
a week kind of uh on different ones and then hosting a couple for the community as well and
making sure people understand who's behind it you know there's somebody real to talk to
and continue just being collaborative man that's the goal and um you know i i like you said the
art is good and I love it.
And I like that. I actually like that. It's not just just stolen art, you know, and that might be the worst, the worst way to put that there to say that, you know, because that just exists in this space.
And you can look at it as stolen or you can look at it as inspiration, whatever you want.
But I just like that this is unique. And and it seems like the people that do come to the community, you know, they stick around.
We've, you know, had some adversity so far and I think that if you show people that you're really not fazed by that and you're willing to build and work whether the times are good or bad you know the right people
stick around and ultimately we want the right holders to build this into a behemoth because
without that good foundation you go too high too quick you fall quicker than you want
um you don't have the right core then people who show up aren't impressed with the activity and
all those things so we're kind of trying to baby step away there a little bit with the activity and all those things. So we're kind of trying to baby step our way there a little bit with the community activity.
We'll be running some contests for community members, meme contests, giveaways,
give out some tokens weekly, have some Telegram voice chats,
play some duck races, play some marble races.
You know, just fucking hang out, get to know people, and just build this up over time.
Yeah, that was a lot of alpha to unpack right there.
I want to make sure we don't glaze over anything.
So we said we got NFTs coming up and then we've got token gated utilities.
I just want to say you got Crypto Wolf up here on stage.
He's already claimed Axel's token gated utility,
which is trying to create an OnlyFans
for feet picture. So just please don't go ahead and take that. He's talking to the Walrus team
right now. I won't, bro. I'm just trying to make sure that they have enough storage for our larger
feet over here to be displayed properly now. But in all seriousness, no, that's awesome. We're happy
to hear that. And I'm glad that you guys are doing that all on Sui.
And as far as how you guys want people checking you guys out,
we all know you have a Twitter here, but do you have a Discord?
Do you have Telegram?
What's the best way that you guys like to check out?
Yeah, Telegram, Twitter.
We're working on a renewed version of the website.
It's just not that great.
Just being open, you know, it's just a basic starting point, you know.
So we've hired a very experienced web dev who, it's kind of more robust.
We can make profile picture generators.
We'll integrate the NFT minting once that's ready.
All of it will be a one-stop shop.
You'll be able to buy on there, built-in swap,
all these kinds of things. So the website eventually will be a nice place to go and
check things out. We'll incorporate our social tickers on the website. So that'll be a landing
page for people that aren't so into Twitter or Telegram. Most people are, you know, but as we get bigger and as more normies come to
Sui, sometimes people just like a website. So that's a focus. It takes about an hour to make
a website that sucks. And sometimes it can take weeks to make a good one. So we're in that process
right now, kind of just refining the brand you know and and making sure that we
represent the quality of this meme across all of our social platforms uh website included so
that's kind of another thing that we're cooking right now um we don't have a discord going as
of yet i mean i'm open to your thoughts on discord uh as it relates to memes on sui have you guys you know had success there building a
community over there like what are your thoughts on on that because we're also open to to learning
right um yeah i i came from the eth nft days when i was using discord a ton and uh i kind of dropped
it when i got into solana memes and sui memes. And I've been going full force just on Telegram.
And really, I think a lot of the communications are on X for myself.
So my personal way of reaching out to the community is we got Maxi's group there that I think the holder, they try to tell them firsthand a lot of the bullish things.
And then we have Telegram to kind of keep a running track of everything but i chose not to go with discord as well just because i feel like if you separate
the attention to three different social platforms it's hard enough to kind of rally the troops
as is if you just yeah it just dilutes it yeah a little bit you know yeah or your your messaging
doesn't always land on everywhere all the same.
Yeah, I could see that. And one of the things I noticed with Discord is if you have disgruntled people or that,
things don't really move as quickly there.
So you could start really getting a bunch of livid people all together at once.
And that could create a lot of panicking.
And so I feel like with Telegram, it's a little bit easier to control.
And maybe that's just me with my experience with Discord, but we've been sticking to just Telegram
and same thing, kind of thing we did with not doing NFTs or anything like that right now,
just fully focused on the mean portion of it. And we might change our ways and get Discord in the
future, consider doing the NFTs, but I feel like you got to really make sure that you optimize one thing first before you spread yourself out too thin so that's kind of our
hell yeah hell yeah and i i agree um you know the nfts for us are also more of a future look
you know um the profile picture generator on the website will be a cool starting point
and a little bit more
basic. And then we'll build out the NFT art. So, you know, it's actually super fucking cool and
unique. And we're not just putting different backgrounds on the same profile picture that
everybody can already have. You know, it's got to be special. And I think that, you know, the NFTs
can tie into a staking platform. And if you had an NFT, you could get be special. And I think that, you know, the NFTs can tie into a staking platform.
And if you had an NFT, you could get different rewards.
And, you know, there's some utility you can build into holding that NFT.
And I think if you can find a path to doing that, it can become extremely bullish.
Because there's a different reason to own it just outside of liking the art.
Because, you know, some people don't really
understand nfts even they're like well i can just screenshot this and put it as my profile picture
like they don't they don't get they don't rally behind being passionate about having the ownership
of it you know um but if you compare that alongside of of an actual benefit to them um then i think they can pair well together you know um because
there you see collections that are just 10 000 pieces of digital trash really right and if it's
just a cash grab for the the guys making them to make a bunch of money and there's nothing
reciprocal about it and then those nfts turn to dust you're not you're not doing your community a good service
you know you're not you're not benefiting them at all so it we look at everything that we're doing
as it has to be a win-win and if we get to the point with nfts where it's just a win-loss you
know we're not going to do it so it's on the table but it has to look right it has to be beneficial to the people that hold the coin
and um we're not going to do anything really that you know doesn't benefit our holders it's
it's not about being selfish it's not about making money off nfts it's like what can we offer people
so that they want to be here and that they want to stay you know know, and alongside of that, we just really try to listen to our
community. We had a great spaces on Tuesday, we had some good suggestions from community members.
And ultimately, I see people, you know, that that hold a coin that I'm a part of the team on is
that they're they're shareholders in a company, essentially, right. So, um you know i've got more experience in the real world in
business than doing these things uh over my life and that's that's the best parallel i have is that
these people hold a share in a company and you're essentially as the team the board of directors
right and you need to direct the path of the brand in a way that is beneficial and positive for the shareholders.
So that's kind of how we make all of our decisions is analyzing it through that lens and going,
you know, is this just beneficial for us or everybody? And, you know, companies in the
real world that make decisions that are beneficial for all their shareholders,
it's proven track record they grow
exponentially over time right if people feel like they got a voice that they're heard and understood
and that the people that are running something they're involved with actually give a fuck about
what they have to say those people are going to be your ride or dies man like and then that just
grows momentum and starts to steamroll and um you you know, I'm just looking forward to this journey, man.
It's been fun so far.
And, you know, I have no doubts we're going to get back to, you know,
smashing ATH and even beyond.
You know, I think that Cetus thing really shook things up, man.
Like, it made a lot of people get cold feet.
And now it's about warming the feet back up like truly like it has kind of scary to people a little bit right like holy fuck and this just
happened like this like at a left field how did that how did that impact your project and what
were your thoughts on how it was handled and now you know the aftermath of it yeah i mean it just cooked us kind of instantly um for a bit
the way that it was handled by cdus i thought was professional and went well but um i think that if
somebody was just getting into suey and and this was their first project and that happened they
kind of were like fuck this you know like i'm not i'm not i'm not even going to be involved over here anymore and i think
the way that cd has dealt with it was probably the best way possible and and because of that
management it will entice those people to maybe jump back in right like it it wasn't an all bad
news story and i think it will be a lesson learned for the whole ecosystem and that it'll actually make things
better, right? Like a lot of laws are written in blood. Shit has to happen for people to change
something, you know, like otherwise they just don't, they're not, they, they're not forced to,
they don't look at it. They, you know, um, that's just kind of how that works. So when bad things
happen, good people make good solutions and it can ultimately make you better. Right. Mistakes, mistakes and problems can make you better. It just depends how you react to them. And I think this was well managed.
communication about what was going on like instantly you know being there for people when
they had questions of like what the fuck is going on it's like you know we don't know exactly yet
the outcome but we're here with you guys ultimately if they don't make it right we'll make it right
and this will get back on track kind of regardless so um yeah i thought it was pretty well managed
across the board yeah i saw, a funny post today.
They were talking about all the different blockchains and they're talking about speed and efficiency.
And then on the top it said decentralized and they purposely didn't put SUI in that.
And they had Bitcoin and Ethereum and all that.
I'm thinking to myself, like if you have been in crypto for five plus years, you know that every one of these layer ones didn't start
off decentralized. Like each one of them had to get to this escape velocity of validators and
nodes and consensus to get to that point. So like if you fast forward five to 10 years in
sui time, it's going to reach that point again. And I mean, as of right now, if anybody disagrees
with how that vote went, then I feel like you're on the hacker side of things.
And of course, you're always going to have people that are enemies and the good guys and the bad guys.
But to me, if you really want large businesses or large countries to start adopting the technology, you have to have some form of security behind it.
And if you see people are able to just hack hundreds of millions of dollars and not have any repercussions, to me, that's bearish.
So I did like how they handled it.
And the only critique I'd say to it is that now everybody's going to be using it more from a chain perspective rather than honing in on the underlying DAP problem that was exploited.
And I think that's our responsibility as meme projects and all that when we're talking to people, letting them know that it wasn't something to do with the language or the blockchain.
It was something to do with the way that DAP was created on the actual chain.
It just happened to be the major DAPs, right?
Yeah, that's right.
It's not necessarily a fundamental flaw.
It was a flaw the way they set it up but not not uh at its core right like not at
the core of sui there there is no flaw there so um yeah agreed so we got about 25 minutes left we've
had a few requests from some projects coming in so we will start letting them get them up to ask
questions but in the meantime hopefully I don't crash my Tesla.
Sorry that beeping in the background,
but we got,
Hey,
at least you're driving a Tesla.
It's got some,
some assistance for you.
Well,
I'm out of Chicago. So I got to worry about the people over here,
you know,
always constantly throwing rocks at my car and give me the finger.
So Elon has not made it well over here in the democratic state of Illinois.
But let me kick it over to CryptoWolf.
He's been silent, which is surprising for the Europeans.
So let me see if he's got any questions he wants to go over.
Yeah, I'm listening.
I truly like the conversation because I feel it's honest.
And I feel that you feel comfortable in the space that
you are moving in so that's always cool to see that you are neutral on things that you understand
the game and that's also cool that of course we can speak with you here on the space as well I
wanted to ask you about what was happening with Zetus and everything.
I was also watching to the chart meanwhile.
Like, what is your...
How did it impact you?
Because I see that you guys did an amazing job.
You went to around 1 million market cap.
Then you...
Now you retrace it after this thing that happened with Zetus all the way back down.
How do you see yourself building yourself up in the space?
Don't get me wrong, right?
Not other than just be staying around.
What is your vision about growing the project on long term?
Yeah, I mean, I think you need to stay relevant
and you need to be unique you know those two
things paired together are a recipe for success so um you know work ethic is an obvious one we've
got to work hard we have to show up it's like any other business man like if you just work
saturday afternoons well you know your restaurant is
probably going to fail if you just focus on your meme coin saturday afternoon same shit so
we're here daily we're working 20 hour days and we have for a month straight so we're going to
continue to do that and you know basically lead by example example and show people that are a part of this that we're the hardest workers in the room and will continue to be.
And, you know, I think as far as getting back to maybe where we were or higher, we're not too concerned about that. continue to grow our holder count. And the price sometimes doesn't always represent
where things are at, at that moment in time. So there's a bunch of different metrics that define
success. And ultimately, people want the price to go up, right? But sometimes that's a leading
indicator. And I think it was a leading indicator off launch where there was that much interest it
shows you that that attention and that interest is there and then due to you know just the nature
and the volatility of of the space in general we will anticipate several 50% plus dips but we also anticipate several of thousand percent rips you know so uh facing
some adversity people getting a little bit bearish on just suey in general and maybe pulling the pin
after that see this hack happen like that nuked our market cap and then there's kind of the panic
factor thereafter and it's hard to um gain traction when there's so much uncertainty in the air. So
once this was settled, we made sure we had a space right away,
talked to our holders about, you know, kind of the next steps coming down the road. But
I think, you know, long term, like I mentioned, we'd like to get into the utility side of things.
Like I mentioned, we'd like to get into the utility side of things.
We'd like to continue down the art path.
We would like to continue developing the brand identity in a more professional way.
And all those little things, you know, over time will kind of curate this brand that people want to be a part of.
And if they see it being delivered in a professional way
so consistently with such a great work ethic I think that we'll have the ability to you know
axles axles they're beast man so I don't want to say the hardest workers in this room but we look
up to them and it's just about showing up man being accountable being good people you know and you find good people when you act that
way so that's kind of the goal over time build a cult build an army man give a brand that people
can identify with and incorporate into their personal style of their life we'd like to look at
one side little thing is uh you know, making some stuffed plushies.
Over time, we've got a line to some real world merch.
So we'd like to explore that, but kind of just methodically check off the boxes and
stay relevant and just keep pushing, bro.
Well, we got King Crab up here.
It's just a water space all around today.
So King Crab, welcome. And did you have a question for what?
I didn't. Thank you, Axel and Crypto Wolf and everybody up here.
But I didn't have like a question, but I want to say when you're talking about the Cetus hack and stuff.
when you were talking about the Cetus hack and stuff.
You know, King Crab was kind of in a pickle,
but I love how a lot of the coins that got put in that situation with Cetus,
how they stayed bullish and kept on moving.
Stayed bullish and kept on moving.
You know, we got it.
We were in a weird spot because we bonded just a few hours before the Cetus hack happened.
And we were like, OK, what the hell are we going to do?
You know, we had we had people that didn't know what was going to happen because a lot of coins were like, gee, geez, I don't know what to do.
But, you know, the true coins that got affected by CETAs are the ones with the true, true communities, true, you know, heart in the SUI ecosystem,
because we all in the SUI ecosystem are in the infant stage still of SUI.
We've got SUI play coming up.
We've got, you know, we've got a long road ahead of us,
a long good road ahead of us.
You know, I'm sitting here watching Axel, watching Wet, you know, even Lofi.
And I'm like, you know what?
All those people up there,
I want to be up there with them someday.
So I want to thank you all
for letting me watch you guys grow
because I want to grow like all you guys.
So thank you.
No, thank you for those kind words, King Crab.
We'll definitely have everybody on the audience check out you
as well as Wett. And just to share some optimism
for you guys, we launched almost a year ago and
ran up to 80 million market cap. I had
early a friend that I met from other meme projects buy
in early to Axel day one and nuke the charts down hundreds of thousands single clipping out. So
we've had to experience that. Then I had a internal team theft from the other co-founder
nuking our charts. And that led me having to do a relaunch of the project,
which then two weeks after that relaunch,
we had our full liquidity pool in CETIS.
And that caused our project to go down by 99.5%.
And so I had to deal with the CETIS team
and wait for it to become unlocked and going back.
But throughout all this, we've been showing up, staying consistent,
building and getting to know a bunch of other projects along the way. You mentioned Lofi,
I've helped them out with their launch and talked to their founder a lot. I think they're a great
project and several other. I see a lot of Dooney's profile pictures out there. We had
Van in our spaces early on and got to introduce a lot of people to a lot of cool NFT projects out there.
And so I think as long as we keep on commingling and trying to help each other out, that's what
it's all about. But realize there's going to be big, bearish things that are going to happen.
And I think if your community knows that you're consistent talking about these things,
you said earlier, which I really agree upon, which is you really have to treat this like a business and have the people as your holders, as your primary source of information and feel them out.
And that's what we've kind of done with Axel, which is I used to do spaces every single day, believe it or not, about nine months ago, there was no suey spaces.
There was like one every other day. And so I said, you know what, we've got to do this daily to get the word out to other chains.
day. And so I said, oh, you know what, we got to do this daily to get the word out to other chains.
And I think that definitely was helpful. And then now the community kind of told me, hey,
we take a step back because there's a lot of other projects now that are hosting spaces and
we don't want to overlap with them. So we've been kind of doing a little bit more selective spaces,
but it's definitely something you need to keep on doing. But I think you guys are doing great with
staying positive and letting the CETUS thing, you know, even going into it, I I think you guys are doing great with staying positive and letting the Cetus thing,
you know, even going into it, I can tell you, but when we launched, we were on Flowex, we were on
Turbos, we were on SuiLend, and I consciously made the decision just to keep it on Cetus because it
was the number one Dex to keep it simplistic for treasury management. And I actually liked the
Cetus team when I was talking to him ahead of time when we did our relaunch.
And to see that happen and take the wind out of your sails again, we just it honestly made me laugh.
I'm so used to just unpredictable, crazy, violent events happening now that it just becomes common play.
But you just got to keep on smiling and realize that the people that are true holders, diamond handers, are going to always be there for you.
The people that are true holders, diamond handers are going to always be there for you.
And hopefully you cultivate that community that feels the same way and is bullish, not just about price, but also about the vision, the long term appeal of the project.
So we are that we got 10 minutes left ish.
I want to leave it open for a wet to see if there's anything that you wanted to mention or if you had any questions for our project or King Crab or just wanted to vibe and talk about Bitcoin right now and your predictions. I'll leave
it up to you right now. All good questions, man. I guess with market in general, I think that
Bitcoin, for example, is going to range here for quite a while. I'm not bearish or extremely bullish, but I think that because it's seen, you know, some recent bullish conditions, that kind of trickles back down.
So I see, you know, the meme space, you know, Sui, Solana, Ethereum, Binance, all kind of having some good success towards the end of the year
um you know there's there's people out there that have all kinds of theories like doesn't matter
what time of the year it is and what conditions you always have a group of people that are bullish
and a group of people that are bearish but ultimately overall we're seeing more people
in the world uh onboarding into crypto and if that trend continues, it's just essentially a numbers game, right?
Like we're going to continue to have success in all the places that we're hanging our hat.
So, you know, in Sui itself, I could see in six months time, you know, nine months, Sui being up to 20 bucks.
You know, I could see it in two years being up to 300 bucks like i it's
got more potential than solana ever has had in the past in my opinion um which some people won't want
to hear don't agree with and that's okay um that's fine but i it's that space is a bit of a wasteland
so um yeah that's my overall thoughts on that i guess a question for you man is like
um you know with your experience from the start what has been the most impactful thing you've done
uh to appeal to holders on different chains like is there one thing you guys have done that
you think instead of just getting suey maxis to like double down on axle was there anything you
guys did that helped bring exposure from people that are on other chains and maybe just full maxis
of other things was there any moves you guys made that that helped open up those doors to
other chains and and getting people on boarded from um you know other other chains in the space?
Yeah, great question.
When we started off, I mean, we were outsiders.
And so I came from Solana and ETH.
And when I came into Sui, it seemed like there was this young, vibrant community.
I was amazed to see that there's all these NFT lovers and holders.
And it really reminded me of the early days when I kind of got into NFTs and I'm thinking, all right, this is a breath of fresh air. And then I kind of learned
that there's this niche of Sui people. So you got the early adopters that kind of,
now they're the OGs and you're kind of this new newbie that's to it, even though you kind
of understand crypto. So I kind of went at it from, I had a network from Ethan Solana. And so
I had a lot of those friends that I,
I first wanted to master SUI so I could actually discuss it and see why it's, you know, the future. And then once I got that down, I started to reach out to my network and invite them into spaces and,
um, kind of tell them about SUI, then onboard them onto Axel. And I did probably the most of that
via these spaces. And so now it's, it's at the exhaustion point, cause I've, I've done the most of that via these spaces. And so now it's at the exhaustion point because I've done a ton of that over the past 10 months.
But that's probably the biggest unlock, I'd say, to getting other people.
Like if you could see our audience right now, it's predominantly axle holder, wet holder.
You don't see too many PFPs from other chains right there.
And so that's the thing.
I think we got to all really,
one thing that I would say from our community standpoint that I noticed was that you could
comment on other spaces that we're going to be having spaces. So make sure that you guys are
not just exhausting all the Sui people who should be exhausting a lot of those Ethan Slana people,
because really they don't have an experience with it. Once you fall in love with the chain and it
makes you money, a lot of times have no uh reason to want to leave
this space and so that would probably be my biggest um advice to you which is just try to
think outside of the box about getting people to come into your project from other chains because
once people start seeing how quickly you could exchange the decks and how easy it is to use a
wallets you start to be like well all right why am I going to be using MetaMask? Why am I spending this money on gas when it comes to ETH and such?
Yeah. Yeah. It's very user-friendly for sure. And I really feel like we're just scratching the
surface. You know, even though memes have existed on Sui for a while, we're, we're really at the start of
things, you know, and, um, there's a ton of room to grow, um, just in numbers, but also in what
you can build, what you can offer and some of the utilities you can put forward. And
I think that utility meme coins, you know, um, they hit a point on certain chains where it's kind of it's all been done.
You know, like there's been so many different ideas on Ethereum, for example, over time that, you know, people are like, I've seen that.
I already have a tool that does that.
Sui lacks in tools to use.
Just just period. I think there's a lot of room to grow in that category so um yeah i just i'm excited about that that room to run you know there's a
lot of run room here and um you know overall just really looking forward to it, man. It's exciting, and I think that it's early time,
so I'll probably end on that.
It's a shout-out to Sui, you guys as well,
and just appreciate you guys giving me the space, man.
No, I appreciate you.
And King Crab, I see your hands up.
Wanted to kick it over to you.
Yeah, I'll your hands up. Wanted to kick it over to you. Yeah, I'll make it quick.
For what, you know, stick to keep going, jumping into spaces.
We have our spaces.
I'm not going to shill it, but we have our spaces during the week.
And we had a guy that usually traded in Solana and then traded in ETH.
He never really looked at Sui.
We had to let him know that Sui's like a quick bridging.
You can stake on moon bags or do liquidity pools.
And he's like a set it and forget it type of trader.
And he didn't know about it.
So as long as you stay consistent, jump into as many spaces as you can you know you're
gonna pick up people from other chains and it'll it'll help you out immensely so it's uh it it's
crazy it's it's crazy good yes solid man good advice um yeah and we'll continue to um i'll rock up on yours um the next one and come say hi and
you know i i think that the goal for all of us is just to continue to be collaborative right
um and if we manage to do that and you know don't create too much pvp then you know really
we're all going to make it because it's so early on here.
Well, on that note, wanted to say thank you so much to the WET team for coming over and telling us about their project.
We're definitely going to have the Axel Familia come over there, check out the TG and try to support as much as possible.
the same. Our DMs are always open
We hope you guys do the same. Our DMs are always open moving forward if you guys want to team up on anything moving forward.
moving forward if you guys want to team up on
anything moving forward, but I want to
say thank you and in the interest of time
that you guys have a great
weekend and I will
give the final thought over. I know you already
said the final words, but I'll leave it over to you and then
I'll close it out.
Yeah. Peace,
love, and happiness. And everybody
enjoy themselves and keep it
light.
