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.super space with Superverse
Recorded: Feb. 25, 2026 Duration: 0:33:21Space Recording
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Thank you. Thank you. GM, GM, we will get started shortly, just waiting on Sandy to come and join the space. Thank you. Okay, well, hello, hello, hello, everybody.
Happy Wednesday.
And Nick, it's great to see you on today. How's your Wednesday so far?
Wednesday is good. We are just digging our way out of this East Coast blizzard, but the dog now has a spot to walk, so life is good. Great to be here.
Oh, so you got hit by it. Yeah, my friend said they got 20 inches in the Central Park. Are you in the city?
I'm about an hour outside of it, and we got the light end of the storm, which was still 17 inches.
Oh, wow. That's crazy. I heard it was one of the biggest in a long time. Is that right?
in a long time. Is that right? Yeah, definitely. It's been a crazy winter. So my weather is
syncing up with the crypto market. So hopefully we're due for a thaw.
Hopefully, hopefully soon. That's great. Well, everybody who's joined, my name is Sandy Carter.
I am the chief business officer for Unstoppable. And we are joined today with Nick from Superverse. And I'm
going to let Nick introduce himself. Nick, take it away. Appreciate it, Sandy. So I'm Nick. I'm
part of the Superverse team. I'm the ops lead at Superverse. I've been on the team for a little
over a year now. We've got a bunch of stuff that's been cranking lately. We've got our new mascot
drop. We've got these unstoppable domains that just released. So super stoked to be here and
excited to get into it. Awesome. Thank you. And thanks. I'm just going to start out by saying
thank you so much for your partnership. Obviously, we're talking here about AdoptSuper. And I have to
tell you, Nick, I had many of our whales who I know are on the call today
said great TLD, great naming service.
This is super.
So we've had a lot of energy and a lot of excitement around the dot super that we'll
be talking about today.
But before we get in there, I'd like to start out with kind of a little bit of the history
of superverse.
I know you guys started as Superfarm and you evolved into this full ecosystem spanning gaming, NFTs, DeFi, and AI.
So what's the thread that ties everything together?
And give us a little bit about what Superverse is.
Yeah. So Superverse was originally co-founded by Elio Trades a number of years ago. As you mentioned, there's been quite a few iterations. My knowledge base is going to be
more on the recent changes because that's when I came onto the team. But essentially what really
it all boils down to is a big focus on attention and liquidity.
Elliot has dubbed it the liquidity attention barbell, and that most things in crypto end
up garnering attention.
And if they have the proper liquidity dynamics, that's what sort of creates success here in
our crypto land.
And so there have been iterations across the last handful
of years, but some of the recent things that we've been focusing on are the release of Black Hole,
which quickly became the number one DeFi application on Avalanche. And then we've
recently released Supernova, which is bringing sort of that same 3-3 protocol with some new twists
to the mother chain.
So we're excited to be back.
That was really prompted by the fact that Ethereum's come a long, long way.
I know I'm seeing some familiar faces that came around to crypto around the same time
as I did in that crazy NFT craze.
And you could go broke minting and transferring on Ethereum.
They've really come like a long, long way to bring those transactions down. They're not quite as
cheap as, let's say, Avalanche, but they've gotten a lot cheaper. And that's sort of what's been able
to enable a 3-3 DEX to really thrive on top of Ethereum. So without getting into too, too,
too much detail, I think that's a good overview of where we're currently at.
Nice. That's pretty interesting. How long have you been with Superverse, Nick?
So I started at the end of 2024. So I've been here for just over a year, so to speak.
And then how long in crypto?
In crypto, I was part of the NFT class. So I came about in 2021. I'd like gotten into
Bitcoin and ETH. And then not long after it, I started reading about this crazy little game
that people were breeding these little monsters and selling them for like five or six thousand dollars a piece.
And that game was Axie Infinity.
And so I came in right around when people were using Smooth Love Potion as a currency in parts of Southeast Asia and then got sucked into the whole NFT mania, made my way to Neo Tokyo.
Shout out Firestorm.
I see you in the audience who's the my way to Neo Tokyo. Shout out Firestorm. I see you in the audience.
Who's the project manager of Neo Tokyo.
And then that is actually how I got connected to Elliot
and then ended up joining the Superverse team.
Very cool.
That's a great, great history.
And I know, Nick, that a lot of Web3 gaming projects
launch a token and a roadmap.
And Superverse has shipped Gigamart, Impostors, Beyond OS.
What's the Superverse philosophy on building products first versus just selling a vision?
Yeah, so that's really been Elliot's lead is to, you know, sort of build something out and then present it to the market rather than, you know, hyping it up for long periods of times and trying to sell a vision beforehand.
I know Black Hole was essentially stealth launch.
There had been some rumors that were dropped around it.
were dropped around it. So, I mean, with the way that this market changes so quickly, it is
challenging to be able to build tools that are going to have staying power. Gigamart was one,
for instance, that, you know, was a bit of a flash in the pan. And then, you know, I think an
important part of surviving in the cryptocurrency market is knowing when to water seeds and
when to prune them. And so Gigamart was one that was pruned. And then that gave us resources and
attention to water, you know, the seed that then turned into black hole. So always taking shots and
goal at Superverse, always trying to stay relevant, trying to like, you know, kind of kick the ball
to where the market is going.
And so far, that's been successful.
And what's your favorite so far? Do you have one?
Oh, yeah. So this will ruffle some crypto gaming feathers, but I'm currently of the belief that
the best game currently in crypto gaming is DeFi. So I've had quite a partial to Black Hole and now
Supernova. Black Hole consumed my attention for a good six weeks. That was my main focus,
just on the participation side, providing liquidity, playing the various sorts of
opportunities that that presented. But I'm really excited for Impostors is ready to reach its next stage and go
into a public playable forum. So I'm really excited about what they've been cooking over there and to
get my hands on the latest version of Impostors. I don't know if I even told you this, Nick, but I
used to have the largest female gaming community.
This was back probably seven years ago.
And it was just female gamers. And we played, obviously, all the Web 2 games and things.
So I love gaming, too.
I just don't have as much time now with two kids and everything else going on.
and everything else going on.
But if you think about it,
Impostors is kind of a social deduction game
with NFT characters and user-generated content.
What have you learned about these Web3 gamers
and what they actually want
versus what the industry assumed that they wanted?
So I've also participated and helped along with the NT plays team at Neo Tokyo. So
between my role at superverse, that role at Neo Tokyo, and also, I think hosting probably a couple
hundred AMAs with different games, I think the biggest mismatch was Web3 gamers want to make money.
And that ended up being the kiss of death for a lot of games.
And then you have some examples of where, you know, the games really focused on a Web2 audience. I think Off the Grid is a good example of that.
At the end of the day, like, it's very, very difficult to make a perpetual wealth machine.
Essentially, what most Web3 gamers want is a money printer in game form,
which nobody's got, that's sort of like an alchemy exercise.
And people have been trying to make that sort of, you know,
know turn turn things to gold for as long as there's been human beings experimenting but i
turn things to gold for as long as there's been human beings experimenting.
think really the sustainable path in web3 gaming is to have the web3 be sort of an accoutrement to
really really good gameplay and that's been you know the recent focus of imposters is to create
a game that people are going to want to play because it's a fun game and then create
some rails for ownership that kind of have some web through the roots. So first and foremost,
it's going to be a game that's fun to play and one that I'm excited to get my hands on.
and one that I'm excited to get my hands on.
And making money, making money, you said.
But Affinity, Axie Affinity did that really well, right?
They did that really well until they didn't.
Until they did.
It's true, it's true.
So I think that's sort of the last iteration and wave of like crypto gaming
was very, very money-making focused.
And, you know, to have any staying power and to attempt to kind of penetrate the larger market, you really need
to make a game that's fun. And then I think the infrastructure of Web3, you know, provides some
unique opportunities around like ownership and rewarding the community. Now, Giga Mart is your NFT marketplace. And a lot of people say NFTs are
dead. I'm just curious, what are your thoughts and how does that fit into your broader ecosystem?
Is it just a storefront or does it serve as some deeper function across your superverse products?
So Giga Mart was really a flash in the pan so that was something that was
created towards the tail end of sort of nft mania and like that mania at this point gigamart is also
dead so um the resources that were going around to like flowing into gigamart have since flowed into
to like flowing into Gigamart have since flowed into other projects that we think have better
market fit. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, let's talk about beyond OS,
it lets developers build an AI powered app and agents, which I love using your token as a
payment rail. What does that look like in practice? I mean, what are people really building?
Yeah, so we can use that as kind of a good example for the like large amount of, I think
there's over 200 projects at this point that have integrated the super token in some capacity.
point that have integrated the super token in some capacity. So beyond OS goes into that sort
of category as well, that we essentially collaborated with them, did some announcements
around it, had the super token be integrated as an alternative payment method. So because I have
those conversations with all of the collaborators, I have a good idea of what most of them do.
all the collaborators, I have a good idea of like what most of them do. And so in that case,
it's a new wave of projects where they essentially put a wrapper around LLMs and have them like
specifically catered to creating games. The interesting ones around like the Web3 ones,
like Beyond OS, Astronova is another example. They're integrating cryptocurrencies
into those games.
So you can go to, you know,
Grok or use Claude
and have it Vibecode,
you know, a game.
I know Firestorm in the audience
has done quite a few of those
on live stream for Neo Tokyo.
I believe he made like a little
like axe throwing game.
He also made a funny meme one with
like JD Vance. But what these crypto specific ones do, not only allow you to vibe code, but they allow
you to integrate tokens alongside. And that's really where our partnership was focused, which
was, okay, hey, if any of our community wants to make a game using Beyond OS, then with a couple of prompts, you can also integrate the super token.
And is it that easy?
I vibe code with Claude today, and that's super easy.
Is vibe coding a game as easy as that?
I'd say as far as the wave like how good these tools are getting,
like if I actually have as my banner, if anybody like takes a quick peek, if you just click on my
name, about two or three years ago, that was the best image that I could make on AI. So I tried to
make like a tweeting bird back when X was Twitter in a dystopian city and that's the best that it could do. And now images are essentially almost completely seamless if behind video generation. So it's not quite as
developed as, you know, if you're making some of these like little video clips that you're seeing
on like CDance 2.0, for instance, like which have been blowing up all over X. The games aren't quite
there yet. But I think, you know, when we're having this conversation in 2027, you know,
you know, when we're having this conversation in 2027, you know, people are going to be playing
vibe coded games. Interesting. That's pretty cool. I might have to try that. I have some
good ideas for some games. That's pretty interesting. One of the things that I write a
lot about, Nick, I write for Forbes, is AI agents spending crypto on behalf of users. We've already seen that in
some places. It's not as prevalent as I think it will be. I'm just curious, how do you think about
trust and identity when it's not a human, but an agent on that other side of the transaction?
I am nervous, especially in that iteration that we're at currently.
I just don't think the guardrails have been put in place and these things haven't been
stress tested to the point where, you know, I would be hooking that up to my long-term
storage market, um, or excuse me, my long-term storage wallet.
So I think it's very interesting technology. It's probably going to be the future in the aspect that,
hey, maybe you have it like what I imagine a kid's allowance account is, and you move over
a certain amount of money to that wallet, it's isolated, you give that access
to the AI agent, and then they're able to purchase things on your behalf. Obviously,
bot trading is probably where this is the most sophisticated. So if you use something like
banana gun to snipe an early project, you are essentially giving a bot or an AI agent access to a small
amount of money and the ability to transact on your behalf. So I'd say that's where the technology
is the most advanced because that's where the money's been flowing and there's been a real
market for that. But I imagine over the next handful of years, like the guardrails are going to get put in place.
And when you have something like a Google or a Meta or an XAI that throws the brand behind it and throws the stress testing behind it, I do think it's going to be generally adopted.
But at this current stage, I would say, you know, definitely, definitely don't give it the keys to the kingdom unless it's been stress tested.
Yeah, I was playing around with OpenClaw, but I bought a separate device to do that.
Just because of all the, all the gaps in security that existed.
But I do think like you do that, I think it'll be fixed.
I don't know how long, but I do think that some of those things will be fixed pretty soon.
So a player, Nick, if I understand you correctly, could maybe own an NFT and imposters, trade on
Gigamart, use AI agents through Beyond OS, and all be the same person. Is it important to you guys to have a unified identity layer
across that experience?
Yeah, I mean, I think crypto is so fractured
that I think there is definitely a place for a unified layer
to be able to fold the identity into.
I think for most of Twitter, or excuse me, for crypto's history, that's been people's
Twitter or now X account.
But obviously that has shortcomings in the aspect that like it doesn't really allow you
to interact with anything on the blockchain.
So by having a unified place that sort of folds in the social social side as well as the transacting and holding
side is definitely going to be something that gains more and more traction.
Is that one of the reasons that you guys decided to do a dot super?
Why don't you talk to me about that?
I know many people on here, I'm looking at many of our whales that are in the audience
bought dot super.
They loved it.
But what was your vision when you guys decided, hey, let's do a Dot Super?
What was your vision around that?
Yeah, I think a combination of us trying to go where the industry is going, give utility
and sort of lead the way for our community on some of these new tools
that'll be becoming more and more used in the space. I think, you know, based off our early
conversations, the dot super, like as a nomenclature, was just so powerful that that made it
certainly extra enticing. The timing was really wonderful as Bang, who's in the audience had been carefully working with
some of our advisors and some third parties to sculpt what I think is a really compelling mascot
so the ability to you know slap the mascot onto it as well with those sun with those uh
sunglasses on it I thought were very compelling So we were just very excited to,
you know, embrace this technology that I think is going to become, you know, more and more used in
the space. And also, you know, your guys's brand was so evident by the fact once we did a little
research and saw, you know, you guys have worked with Brave, you guys have worked with like pudgy
penguins. I know you guys have been working on the regulatory side to get those web domains and work with those regulators.
So, you know, if we were going to do it with anybody, we were glad to jump at the opportunity to work with y'all.
And I've been really excited about how it's been going so far.
And how do you see your users leveraging a dot super?
Like if you had your ideal user, how would they be using a dot
super? Or is it just for fun? I think it's partially, probably both. I mean, it's partially
going to be for fun. It's like nice to be able to own whether it's your Twitter handle, like
cryptotheus dot super or bang dot super. And just, you know, there's a little bit of
wanting to have like the control there to be able to like sort of like own that in case you want to
make use of it down the line. I think I could see it as people using it for ease of transactions.
I know like myself, for the AMA team that I work with, I'm doing transactions every quarter to pay everybody.
And I'm always fumbling through old messages trying to track down people's wallets.
So being able to transact with bang.super makes things a lot easier as opposed to just having to hunt down that long string.
Yeah, I think ease of use is one of the prime reasons why people do
a naming service. It's just so easy to use, you know, sandy.super versus using my wallet address,
right? So I think that that's kind of interesting today. Do you think that I know today you operate across about 40 networks. I think that's right.
How does a dot super help you across all those networks?
Yeah, I mean, just being able to have one easily identifiable,
easy to remember address that can span across networks
is certainly going to help.
I know we're
at when we've come a long way on multi chain. I remember back in like 2021, it was a real bear
to bridge and get funds over and get the initial like gas over and having to utilize, especially
if you're in the United States, it became tricky, depending on, you know on if gas was on certain exchange we didn't have access to.
So it's come a long, long way. But by having a unified address that spans a bunch of different
blockchains just really lowers that barrier to entry for use. And as someone who is moving
funds from Black Hole to Supernova, so from AVAX to ETH and pulling things off of base,
you know, anything that simplifies that process,
I think is good for the individual
and good for the space in general.
I agree.
So Nick, again, if you're listening in,
we're talking about the new dot super
that was announced between Superverse and Unstoppable.
I'm Sandy Carter. I'm the chief business officer for Unstoppable. the new dot super that was announced between superverse and unstoppable um i'm sandy carter
i'm the chief business officer for unstoppable and we have nick on from superverse who's the
coo for uh superverse and we're just chatting about the new announcement um we also will give
away three dot super domains if anybody has a question all you have to do is go down to the bottom and raise your hand.
And Nick will be happy to answer any of your questions.
So make sure you raise your hand.
You can get a free .super domain.
I'll give you time to think of your question.
And Nick, I'll go on to my next question while we're waiting.
What do you think is the biggest thing that's on your roadmap right now?
Maybe something that people aren't paying enough attention to that you want to share some alpha on?
First, just a little point of correction.
I'm the ops lead.
So I guess.
Oh, ops lead, not the COO.
Oh, sorry.
Did I promote you?
Yeah, you gave me a nice promotion.
If you could send that to Elliot, that would be great. I'll just assume that's finalized with a nice pay bump. So I'm the ops lead. There's definitely some ops guys above me. Shout out Jeff and Nick.
app goes, one of the things that we most recently announced was our new staking program. So that's
the thing that I'll focus on here because it's the most recently been announced and probably hasn't
quite permeated the X space just yet. But essentially what that allows people to do
is lock up super for a period of time. We're currently in a 30 day window where the program's available,
and then it'll be ceased to be available. We're probably got another, you know, whatever, 29,
28 days or such. Definitely check the super account and the website for all the accurate
information there. But this is pretty unique in the aspects that it allows people to get exposure to the burn token on supernova. So three, three dexes,
there's an emission token, which is Nova. And then for those who burn the token, they get voting
rights in the three, three dex, probably beyond the scope of the discussion to get in much deeper
than that. But for people who are interested in acquiring essentially like an ownership position so that they can get the
fees associated from the DEX, but don't want to provide liquidity and don't want to manage it,
it provides a really good opportunity where people can lock up super. They don't have to
worry about impermanent loss or managing these LP positions and all of the emissions that are generated by the super versus
company's LP. So we provide some large LP positions in the super paired pools. Those
generate a large amount of emissions. And we're going to take all of the emissions that we earn
and split it amongst all of those people that stake. So you can stake for six months, a year,
it amongst all of those people that stake. So you can stake for six months, a year, 18 months,
and then you'll get essentially a fractional split of all the emissions that we make from those LPs.
So it's linear. So if you represent 50% of the staking power, which will be the amount of super
you staked multiplied by whatever multiple for duration you choose. If you somehow acquired 50% of that, you would get 50% of the emissions.
So we just wanted to create a way, especially for the people that don't want to risk their
super by putting it into a liquidity position, could still end up getting an extra benefit
and earning some of those VE Nova tokens.
That's pretty interesting. When did that start?
That started on, I believe, Monday.
Oh, wow. So that's brand spanking new.
Yeah, brand spanking new.
Because it's only Wednesday, right? That's pretty wild.
Yep. And that was another example of, we teased a little bit. Yep. Just hit. And that was like another example of,
you know, we teased a little bit. Yeah. So it started on Monday. So we teased it a little bit,
but you know, those aren't things that we put on the roadmap and then deliver. Those are things
that, you know, we're building in the background. And then once it's ready to release, you know,
we do a couple of teas and then hit the market. Interesting. Okay. Greg, I don't
think we have any questions yet. That's very unusual. You must be doing a fabulous job, Nick,
explaining everything for sure. So my last question is everybody who's listening in,
and we so thank you guys for listening in. And Nick, we thank you for Superverse and your partnership. What is one thing that listeners should do today to get involved with Superverse and
Dot Super?
I'd say the number one thing would be to go to the, if you're not familiar with Superverse,
is go to the website and sort of poke around.
So we've got our partnership page or a collaborator page
where we have, you know, tons of projects highlighted from our over, you know, 200
collaborators who have integrated super into their platform, either as an alternative payment,
it can unlock unique sort of adventures that take place in games, unique benefits, you know,
sort of adventures that take place in games, unique benefits, you know, take a view through
the docs. If you're really interested in learning more, I helped write those. So I think it gives
like a really good explanation of the overall, you know, vision. And then also tune into,
you know, some of Elliot's most recent content. I know he's been doing some weekly live streams.
recent content. I know he's been doing some weekly live streams. Shout out to Bang, who helps put
those on, as well as, you know, creating some videos around what his thoughts are on, you know,
the market. And there's some potentially some Easter eggs for super that got sort of woven
into those videos. So I won't say too much, but that's probably a good place to check out and a
good place to start. And then if you're a DeFi then if you're a DeFi head, then definitely you can check out Supernova or Blackhole.
Awesome. That's great.
Well, Nick, our time is over.
You did a great job explaining.
We have no questions, so no winners for our dot super.
If you think of a question later, DM me me and we'll get that question over to Nick.
Nick, again, thank you for joining us today. And thank you for your partnership with Superverse.
And thanks for all the listeners today as well. Thank you, Sandy. It was great to be with you
and really stoked about the collaboration. Me too. Thanks. Thanks, guys. Talk soon. Thank you.
