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Recorded: March 20, 2025 Duration: 0:48:09Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, participants explore the evolving dynamics of dating and relationships among younger generations, touching on trends in male feminism and the potential rise of controversial figures in political spheres. Additionally, they announce a strategic rebranding for the Ox platform, aimed at enhancing user trust and expanding its community.
Full Transcription
to hold your microphone is kind of fucked up.
There's got AirPods today.
Yeah. So dude, you were telling me about this, this hairy system thing yesterday, and I hadn't seen it yet, but like, it's actually like world historically funny.
Like this whole situation is just amazing.
What is your understanding of it so far?
I mean, I don't know much.
I just know that what you told me, which is now
people think it's fake now on the right wing.
They think he's pretending to have girlfriends.
Oh, I like, at this point, I'm somewhat like,
I don't know if I'm doing that as a jest or not,
but like, I mean, it is weird, right?
Like, it is weird that you get 12 girls like doing a cancel and somehow none of the girls have any like incriminating anything leaked throughout it.
It's also weird that they pulled 12 fucking girls together and they cannot find a single one that has screenshots of him saying that they were like exclusive. Like they're getting mad at him because like, oh, like he let us on and we all thought we
were dating him. But like, at no point does the guy ever say that he's like, dating them, right?
It's it's just it's very clearly like, I mean, honestly, I think the guy is in the top like 99.8 percentile of zoomer
men who are 23 years old who for being able to be honest with all of these girls in terms
of like, I know, like I am not looking for anything exclusive, like even in the deepest
depths of his like gooning den, he did not get to the point of like accidentally being
like, Oh my god, I love you or yeah No, we should totally date like
He's literally like is he gonna become like a right-wing icon? I don't saw some people tweet like wow, this guy's awesome. I
I am willing to like I obviously like his politics are gay as hell on he's generally like
I mean his he generally behaves like a homo. But like.
I just cannot side with anyone who's trying to cancel this guy over this,
like every zoomer I know is talking, there's like two ways it goes, right?
Either the zoomer has completely dropped out of dating and they have no hope.
They're like gigablock pills.
The last time they spoke to someone of the opposite gender, who wasn't like their mom or a teacher was like three years ago. Or they are also talking to like
at least five people concurrently, right? So the idea that all of these girls were like
only talking to this one guy who messages them once every month while he's gooning is very, um, like it's very hard to believe for me, right?
Like I know zoomer girls, they're not like,
nobody's super exclusive now. Like it doesn't really exist.
I don't even know if zoomers know about like exclusive dating.
Well, these are good points. Maybe he pissed someone off and that's why it's like coordinated.
Well, I think he pissed all of them off by not dating them, right?
Like I think that was his problem.
Like all of them were like, oh, like I'm going to be the one like I'm going to date the gigachad
soy jack, LibTard influencer with like 3 million followers.
This is so based. But then
he just is like, well, I don't really want to date you. And I guess that's like a transgression.
It's like, it's like date rape, but the raping is where you don't date them.
Hmm. Let's see.
They're also like, they're doing just like goofy stuff. Like one of the posts was saying like,
he got nudes from this woman who was like a sexual,
no, it wasn't a sexual assault survivor.
It was like a domestic abuse survivor.
And it's like, what?
Like what are they saying with this?
Are you saying that like if a woman has ever been beaten,
you cannot like stand like, stand back, bro, like, she's off limits.
She's off the market forever. Like, I don't even know what you're saying.
This wording of the accusation is kind of humorous. It says, alleging Harry persuaded a dozen women to send explicit photos via Snapchat,
despite claiming to respect them for more than their bodies.
This revolution has sparked outrage, particularly given Sasan's public advocacy for women's
rights.
I think I think so.
Saylo is saying that it's basically the thing where like all the girls picked him
because he was like the safe male like he's like oh like the male feminist like he he
would never like he was supposed to be the chosen one.
Yeah.
He was.
And then he just was not one.
Yeah, it feels like a knee-jerk reaction by women to
to like
male feminism. It's like a
their moment of realization that all guys are the same
even if they are male feminists.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah.
Well, I think the other problem is that like, within the scope of like male feminism,
you actually have more liberty to like abuse women generally
because like, you don't like,
the assumption that you need some hard like boundary
or something because like liberals generally don't like
believe in this anymore.
Whereas like, if you ask a conservative,
like if you say like,
do you need like an explicit hard confirmation that you're dating for this to be like legitimate?
Like all conservatives say yes. And then like liberals are more like wishy washy about where
the line is. So like, there are several of these like, like the talking phase, like the predating,
like there are all these weird phases that zoomers have
developed that are like not dating, but like there's something and like, how do you hold
someone accountable for like, you know, it's like if you have a contract, but the contract
only has like 30% like impact under certain circumstances or something,
but you don't know which 30% it is or how it applies.
So like, I think everyone is just getting confused as fuck.
This guy said this, I don't really know,
I don't really know what this means.
I haven't seen it.
But like my response to that is to say like,
who is the white guy that got screen,
that got one-shotted by the screenshot of Coombe,
but like that also entails asking
for like the screenshot of Coombe,
which like I'm not really gonna do it.
Yeah, maybe, maybe.
Reminds me of the Anthony Weir stuff.
This guy doesn't like super cycle, right?
Did we get wrong reminds me
It's gonna reminds you Anthony wiener if I look at it
Do you remember the Anthony wiener stuff?
I remember the Anthony wiener stuff basically being that like the guy was,
uh, wasn't this the guy who was like sending dick pics to everyone?
And the main thing that like was getting him in trouble was that he was doing
stuff in like a weird way.
Like he would, he would like be like masturbating into like potted plants or
into like potted plants or something and girls were just like that's like, you know, it's
something and girls were just like, that's like, you know, it's,
I don't think he was doing that but I think it was like he it was like a huge age gaps
and stuff like he was saying to fairly young women as a as a congressman and his wife was
the was like very close to Hillary Clinton as well. So he was like the chosen one as well.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I think that definitely plays in.
Like he could have gotten very far in DNC politics.
Like if you are a liberal and you're doing all of this stuff,
like there's a much higher assumed level of like,
what they're basically saying is,
fuck, like he's just like the conservative saying is fuck like he's just like the conservative
guys to like he's just like the Republicans, like that is like where it's coming from because
they hadn't like, if they were to just date like a Republican guy or something, they would
like sort of know what they were getting. And they're getting rugged in the realization
that like, wait, all guys are similar, even if they tell you that they're not similar.
Yeah. Yes. Anthony Weiner was like sexting with a 15 year old girl from North Carolina.
She's pretty bad.
That's not great.
No. But like there's something about like the DNC chosen one and then these kind of things that come out.
Yeah, there's a pattern there.
Yeah, you'd never want to be the chosen one.
That's something that I've learned many times in life across many industries, many social subcultures.
It's just always negative to be the chosen one.
I think it's like, I think it's like if you're a Democrat,
most of your base is actually younger women, right?
Because mainly at this point,
only younger women vote for Democrats.
So you end up just performing entirely for young women.
Yes.
You just become like this clown for women.
Yeah.
No, there's a certain type of account on here too,
that's like, they come onto like the right wing spheres, but then like all they do is post about like how good their relationship or their marriages
or something like that. But they do it in a way. And like, I don't think they realize that they're
doing this, but they eventually get to the point where they're telling stories about their like
loving relationship, where women can self insert into the story. And it's like the easiest and most effective way
to get e-girls to like fall in love with you
is like tell a bunch of stories about like
how good of a boyfriend or like husband you are
and like let them just like mentally insert.
And so they all eventually start becoming like left wing
because the right wing guys,
I don't think they know either why they hate this, but they look at these guys and they just say like, you are pure
fucking scum. And the guy's like, what do you mean? Like I'm just posting about how
much I love my wife, bro. But then inevitably it always comes out that these are the same
guys that are messaging, like literally every single girl that you know. And like maybe,
maybe it starts off like not like explicit
or sexual or something, but like at some point it's like,
well, if 90% of the people that you like do eat
like a DM outreach to are women, like what is up with this?
Why is this happening as like a dad in a loving relationship?
Like, why aren't you talking to your wife?
So like all of those guys wind up getting pushed
towards like the hairy side of things.
This guy is saying,
almost convinced Lucas only shares his screen
to Subtle Flex's ad credit.
Honestly, if you guys know how to use the ad credit,
like that would be epic.
Cause I think this is a problem that we have here.
I think it's accumulated because
ad credit is what we bought, right?
As a firm.
I thought that I thought that we were like, as a business account, you get like
a given amount per month and I thought we've just been accumulating it.
Cause like it appears to keep going up.
And like, I think we
one time like did something because it used to be always
like a, an even divisible by thousand number, but now it's
not.
We should just start sparing some ads. Have you seen the new
Deribit? I want to show you this.
Let me take a link. Deribit has got a new ad using models.
I have not. It reminds me of our e-girl.
Reminds me of our e-girl one. Oh yeah, I think you can toss it in the private chat.
There you go. You can click that out.
One of my greatest Google searches. the the
the I feel like this is also cringe core.
I think the problem is the accents.
Like immediately this is like an accent that I think most American guys do not trust on
women.
Yeah.
This is very like Netherlands, Dubai coded.
Yeah.
And it's a Dutch company. Netherlands, Dubai coded. Yeah.
I mean, it's a Dutch company.
Like this is the last thing that like most American guys remember hearing before they get like extremely rugged,
like scammed somehow.
Like it can happen in a variety of ways, but like the-
It's very intimidating.
It's very intimidating, yeah.
They're probably like 5' yeah and um like i can feel myself like pulling away from the screen like uh
like i'm i don't know what sort of like scam you're doing but like i know that you're trying I think this physiognomy is just so rare among American women that it's like, it's something
alien almost like they might as well be aliens.
I was gonna say like, this, this is a very rare like phenotype.
This also but this one is more like,
this is almost like Lana Del Rey mixed with,
I don't know any other celebrities,
but mixed with something else, I guess.
The other one I haven't really seen any examples of.
Can I just turn this,
is there any reason to have the sound on at this point?
No, it's fine.
Yeah.
The model walk also on the, I will say it's kind of like an interesting effect to do the model walk with like an all white background such that like the screen, like the backdrop and the floor, like all blend together and one.
It creates like a very like, I don't know, it's like a novel visual effect. But I think that's one of the main innovations of this. Yeah, they kind of ruined it by adding in the graphics there. Like I think if they were just like walking through a cloud, that would be the most interesting way to present it.
the generation continues.
Because I feel like making bad ads
and then it's so bad that it's good
is kind of the main cultural export of Zoomers, right?
So they don't even know what a good ad is.
And they're like, a good ad is bad
because it's too, it's too, it's too try hard.
Yeah, yeah, because a good ad
will not be cringe core enough, right? Yeah, yeah. Because like a good, a good ad will not like be cringe core enough.
Right.
Yeah.
And then hence be bad.
So yeah, like I don't, I think they did unlock something with just like, there
is a level where if something makes you cringe hard enough, I it's, it's just
much stickier, like I'm not personally a fan of cringe core because I like,
when, when I feel like I have to click off, I like leave,
like I don't actually like watching something that feels like
a horrifying train wreck to watch.
But I also like acknowledge that this does not happen to
everyone, right? Like most people,
especially most young people appear to just continue all the
way through, like they're all there for it.
That's just how it's going to go.
Um, so I don't know.
True.
Like maybe add quality definitely is going to go down, right?
Like, uh, I think if you were to run like a nineties Microsoft ad for, uh,
zoomers, like, I just don't think they pay attention.. Like I don't think they watch more than five seconds of it.
Yeah.
Like what do you say about, right?
Yeah, like what would you say about Rasmur's style?
Like, do you think he just becomes more serious over time?
Like he becomes less cringe?
Cause I think I've seen him maturing in his content.
Yeah. I mean, he explicitly told me that he's like,
he's like, wait, like,
I like pretended to be retarded in a bunch of these videos,
but now I'm at the point where like,
so many people have only seen me like pretending
to be retarded that they're like,
wait, he's actually retarded.
So I have to like put out things where I'm like not retarded
so that people understand that when I'm like not retarded so that people
Understand that when I'm acting retarded. It's a joke
Yeah, I
Don't know it's a hard balance to strike right like it's hard to tell people that like you're intentionally being retarded. I realized I can't see I was like, I'm going to show everyone our beautiful like backdrop, but then I
think you just can't see me just so bright, so much sun coming
in. Oh, geez. Yeah, this was my other tab that I had open was I asked Google like, how
do you transmit the right vibes? This was when we were doing a certain like naming brainstorming right where we're debating
a ox one rebrand so if anyone has ideas for names or like brand visions that us. Anything.
See, I like the Dutch, I like the Dutch
people. I like the Dutch people, but like
they do have their nuances, right?
Like there's a place that I
stay in frequently. It's like a Dutch
cultural enclave and like. they're very well off,
but something like very remarkable is that
if you go on their Facebook marketplace,
like despite the fact that these people
are all like multimillionaires,
they will literally sit there and like heckle
on Facebook marketplace over like $10
on the price of like a $1,000 good.
Like they are truly like every stereotype that I have
heard about like the Jewish frugality I think also applies to the Dutch people.
Definitely, definitely. I worked at a Dutch firm for two years. I know Dutch people pretty well.
Like the whole company was Dutch also.
Basically, I think Dutch people are descended from traders.
So they're all about merchant trading.
They had options exchanges 500 years ago.
So they're 500 years ahead of everyone in options
and market making order books. But they just apply it
to everything in life. So they're constantly making profits with each other. They're constantly
thinking about the price of everything. This is overpriced, this is underpriced, making
estimates on prices of things. So it's like a core part of their philosophy. I think that makes sense.
They're not like, they're not very ambitious. I would say like, like the other Dutch stereotype
is that like most HFT firms in the US, you're going to like MIT or something and you're like
do physics or engineering and like math. And you're like kind of a nerd, right? Whereas like for
the Dutch HFT firms that they're also very good, they make just as much money, probably more money. You know, like IMC, Optiva, these
kind of firms, but they'll actually just recruit like fratty guys. And these guys will be like,
okay, I stayed another two years in college because I love drinking so much. I love my
frat so much. Like they'll graduate college in like six years, something, but then they'll
go and work at an HFT firm afterward. Like that's also really common. So that's, but they'll like be like super sharp at mental math. So it's kind of like the state
school kid who's like actually a wizard, but just like, just has no, has no avenue, has no avenue to
like express it. And it's like not seen as good to express it. Like the, like the Dutch ideal is
that you're one of the bros, but then you're super competent.
You're like a team player, one of the bros, but you're super competent. But you're not like a
standout guy. Like you don't see like a science bear on your own.
What I noticed about all the Dutch people in that, in the place that I stay around is like,
they may not make a ton of money from their job, but somehow like all of them are doing some
like, like even in the even in the middle of fucking nowhere,
like they found ways to like arbitrage like property deals
or some other like small business loan, where they are
making like 4x their actual income just off of like
investments.
Passively right like they'll like maybe one of them, like,
it's like the dude makes like 120K
as like a level two engineer or something,
but he is like the owner of some warehouse
that is rented out for like all of the shipments
of like local, you know, like all of the local
like medical supplies or something like that, right?
And they all work towards this eventually. You know, like all of the local like medical supplies or something like that, right? Yeah
they all work towards this eventually and it happens like
It happens like without you noticing none of them ever talk about it
None of them like amongst themselves if there's like a group of people who all are dealing with like real estate or something They will have their little Dutch real estate enclave where they go and like discuss it like
During the workday or something like that, But like they're not flexors at all like they are they're very much so like I mean
I mean the thing with the thing that I mean you will never fucking hear about it
I mean the thing with Holland is that you have a
Wealth tax there. It's like I think it's 0.4 to 1% wealth tax
So which just means that the entire but the income tax is very low.
So essentially, the entire society is around not flexing your wealth because you're just
asking for a higher wealth tax when you do that. So it's all about like, people will
mark their stock prices as low as possible. They're like, ah, this company over here,
it makes nothing. It's worthless. Yeah, the US it's the opposite because you don't
have a wealth tax and you have this idea of using your shares to buy share for share purchases.
So in the US companies will try to be valued as high as possible because they're like,
oh, this is awesome. My startup is worth $700 million. But then obviously there's no demand
for that at any price. but there's no consequence either
because you don't have to pay tax on that.
But imagine if you're a startup LARP and you say you're a startup with 700 million, and
then tax stories are like, okay, great.
So this month or this year you owe me $7 million.
So here's the wire instructions.
Then all of a sudden everyone's like, no, no, no, this is actually worth nothing.
This is worth 20 million.
So that I think is like the-
Do you think it's all from that
or do you think there's just like a natural tendency
of like certain cultures to flex more than others?
Just like some weird like ethnic genetic thing?
I think it's wealth tax.
I think a lot of it is like, well, it's hard to say
like society puts the wealth tax in part
because I think-
Yeah, like where does the wealth tax come from right I think there is this egalitarian impulse in in Dutch culture right like
generally it's like freedom like freed men kind of thing it's a very low it's a
very flat topography as well and so I think know, like Dutch people flex.
If you look at the Amsterdam, like row houses back in the day,
like, especially if you go to a museum,
like they basically did these like giant ass doll houses
and they balled them out and they ball out there.
You know, it's like, it's very much like,
like the Gilded Age that you saw in the US
with the robber barons.
So they do that, but then I think the results of that
is like, well, if you have so much money,
why don't we just charge you 1% a year on your wealth?
You can afford that.
Yeah.
And then, so I think it's like a action reaction
that happens.
But I think it's also because like the,
like they were so shrewd at like tax planning and like stuff that
That eventually the the like left-wing center left governments were like, okay
I'm not gonna ever be able to collect tax from you from income tax because you're always just gonna deduct it
You're gonna write it off. You're gonna do some nonsense. You're gonna have a tax shield of 50 years
You're gonna buy a company that lost money to then tax shield yourself. So instead, I'm just gonna do a wealth tax on you. If you have money, you give me money. Right? Yeah. So I mean, I think
I actually think wealth tax makes sense, honestly, for for most countries in the future, because
income tax, like no one's ever gonna be able to collect the problem, right? Like all these big
companies never pay income tax. Like all these big big rich people never pay income tax because they're just like oh that that's not income
That's like we're doing share buybacks, you know, I just own shares and I borrow against shares
So, you know once you have a left-wing government in the US, I think you will probably get well taxed
It's still pretty unpopular though because both left and right wing rich people hate well-taxed.
And there's not enough spirit of like you have to, you should do it out of the goodness
of your heart.
Like in Holland, people will do it because they're like, well, we're all Dutch people.
There's not that many Dutch people.
Right?
Yeah.
It's like a zero trust society in the US now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like if I look at population of Netherlands, it's like, yeah, it's like 18 million people. It's a very low number, right?
So you can that's honestly the same thing with like a draft now
like can you imagine a fucking draft in the US like everyone is just gonna be like wait like
I'm gonna die for this bro. Like it's gonna be me. I don't fucking think so, dude
fucking think so, dude.
It'd be all Mexicans. I think Central Americans. I
It'd be all Mexicans, I think, Central Americans.
I mean, it's like if you look at the army enlistment, it's almost all people who
like, don't have like alternative employment options now.
Like, it's not you.
You don't. You used to have that like bastion of like patriotic young guys who
would just do it because they're like, I'm going to go kill the enemies of the state
because I'm like a fucking psychopath, bro.
And I think those guys just now go into business.
Yeah, I mean, they can also play Call of Duty at home.
They don't need to go and do the real thing.
Yeah.
I feel like video games has changed that a lot.
Like in the past,
people would join the military for adventure. They'd, they'd be like, I'm going, I'm signing up for an adventure.
But now they can just book a tourist, like they can book a cheap flight and then they
can go to Bangkok normally, you know, they don't have to go to the Vietnam war to go
to Bangkok.
Yeah.
I mean, the idea of war has also been like, you know, it used to be a lot more like cool,
I guess.
And now everyone like everyone has a friend in the army.
And it's like, when you talk to a friend
who's actually been deployed
about what happens when you kill someone,
it's like, yeah, so it's like,
we actually had an engagement, like I did Nick this guy.
And like the next 20 weeks of my life
we're filling out paperwork.
And you're just like, like oh that sounds pretty gay right
it's like they've they've successfully made it like unfun to do the thing that the psychopath
guys want to do now so like the psychopath guys just have to go kill people in some other way
just crypto trenches i think
helps the rebrand would be awesome will it it still be the same platform? Just a new
brand and style? Yeah, same platform. Definitely. I mean, build building on what we built already.
Brand and style. Yeah, that's what we're debating now. So brand, I think Ox, you know, Ox has
a strong distinctive brand Oxfam Ox, but I do think the dot fund doesn't quite convey what we're trying to build here and also what we've achieved.
And then I think that, you know, there's a good opportunity to do a big rebrand.
Like if the exchange feels safer, we would do proof of reserves.
We're going to announce our Fireblocks custody solutions. And also we have a really strong, distinctive new brand,
I think, that could attract more users,
attract more community as well.
So I think Ox is an amalgamation of a lot of different people's
input and design.
I think there's some parts of it that are, you know,
harkening to the AI aux in the past.
And then there's other parts that are, you know,
it's more like the idea of a bull market.
So a little hard to do like branding by CTO.
Yeah.
So a little hard.
Although I will say like guys the most the most basic but probably useful input would be like
Colors like what color schemes are you what color schemes are you in love with?
We've had a lot of pushes for blue
the Oxfam blue shirts
blue
very beautiful.
It's only me pushing that blue by the way. It's like, I'm pretending there's consensus
towards my preference for the blue
to try and like gaslight you all into also preferring it.
But like, I'm the only one who said that.
I think baby blue feels safe.
Yeah.
What colors feel unsafe? Like I feel like purple inherently feels unsafe.
Red definitely feels unsafe.
Orange feels like not just unsafe, but like you should get off like it makes me uncomfortable.
Yellow is like just weird.
Green depending on the shade like if you go light enough on green it gets safe
like pastel enough but if you go like neon green bro it's fucked it's totally over like
not safe at all that's like the clothes that rave girls wear now you're very very unsafe Black can feel safe, white can feel safe.
So got coinbase. Coinbase is blue and white theme.
Very standard like Silicon Valley. Finance.
Damn.
Yellow.
We finally have feedback on the blue and he's saying that
I'm a fucking retard this is awful I mean baby blue I don't know if I would
describe this as baby blue bro like come on what are we baby blue really is this
is this baby blue yeah I think it's baby blue. Fuck. Okay. I don't know. What do I know? I'm a guy, dude.
We're all we're all just guys talking about colors. Like what do we know? What do we know?
Why are there no like brown? You know, why? Why are there no brown websites? I feel like
the color brown. Because brown goes brown is like almost damn near like impossible to have text on.
Like it like the only website that I remember being brown was there was this really old like schizo like Bible blog that I used to read.
And like it would have these like like, like parchment and then there would be text on it.
like without ruin
Parchments and then there would be text on it and I just and it would be this like old timey font
And I just remember thinking like this is this is actually so hard to read
I may install an extension that like changes text and background color just to read this webpage
What about like wooden colored website like
like what you're on like, uh,
wooden boat, like a wooden tree house exchange, like, uh, your wood panel,
like oak and pine and like different, no one's ever done that.
It'd be the first tree house dick of exchanges.
Are you, are you familiar with like, uh, the tree house dick tweet?
No, not. There's always like some viral tweet on girl Twitter where like someone will go like, the best dick every girl
ever had was from like some homeless drug dealer who lived in a treehouse or something like that.
Always gets like 200k likes. So we can be the treehouse
dick of exchanges.
It's not bad. Why do those tweets get so many likes? Is that true?
Yeah, I mean, it's like it's generally true that like, you know, like the guy who's like
taking you out on the nice date and it's like, you know, the whole process is sort of like
clinical and normal is going to provide like a much less exhilarating experience than like
the homeless guy who's just like ripping you through shit you've never seen or done before
and taking you back to his treehouse.
Like that is an experience.
That ties back with the homeless people in Austin
that you're talking about.
People are like willingly homeless.
So honestly, there's like,
there's a racial distinction too on this one
because like there's like a type of homeless
where it's like, you're just like,
like they're thinking of a very specific type of guy who is like basically broke but like doesn't actually have to be homeless
And he's just like fucking around
I don't think they're necessarily thinking of like a
Random crackhead at a bus stop who's like
Okay, yeah, so it's like it's like homeless, but really, he's like, he's just hot, but he's
like, has less money than you.
Yeah, and it's one of those things where like, at a certain level of not caring about money,
you like, it's like the same as having like, fuck you money, right? Like in both situations,
you're saying fuck you money, like, yeah.
Oh, I mean, in a way, if you really understand money,
like all money is fucking money.
Like you see a penny on the floor, it's fuck you.
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, like any level of money
can be fuck you money if you're just a fuck you person,
right?
Like that's what the man in the tree house,
like that's what he teaches us,
is that there is no such thing as fuck you money. It is just a fuck you tree house, like, that's what he teaches us, is that there is no such thing
as fuck you money.
It is just a fuck you tree house.
Yes.
He's speaking from experience here.
I think every guy in crypto Twitter, like, I can, I think a lot of a lot of these people,
I don't want to say every I'm rolling that one back,
but most guys, if you're in crypto,
you have had the experience of being the tree house dick guy.
You have had the experience of being the crazy freak
that does a bunch of shit that's so patently ho-scaring
that it horseshoes and makes you extremely good with women.
That might be mainly your experience though, Lucas.
Do you think most of you guys have that experience?
I feel like most of them are like you said, like they're home.
Last cycle, I would have said almost none of the people did, but a lot of the
people who joined this cycle are genuinely like
treehouse dick representatives. Like if you look at a lot of the Solana like shitcoin natives,
influencers, these guys are like the resourceful. I agree. Solana, I think Solana is more treehouse
dick energy. Yeah. I definitely don't think Ethereum is the, I think it's kind of almost
the opposite. It's almost like Harry's, uh, seesawing energy. Yeah. Like almost nobody on Ethereum is treehouse dick energy, unfortunately. Uh, but I think
a lot of this is also like pretty easily represented. If you were look, looking at like the gender
breakdowns of like random coins launched on either of these chains, like there's many
women in crypto, uh, they're not even here for the for the money.
They're here for the treehouse, Dick, right?
Yeah, it's like, remember the slana girl meme, the slana girls? How do you know she's a slana
girl? It's fast and cheap. That actually should have gotten more that actually shouldn't gotten
more hate than it did.
I think it's something that the crystal foundation cannot hate on that much because like as mad as it may make you, it's very hard to refute.
That's why girls are fast and cheap.
Yes, like it's a it's very hard to say that these people don't have like extremely high
time preference in most of their activities.
It's just like that's that's like Solana users in general, right?
Like that is, yeah, they prefer speed.
They need speed.
Yeah.
That's what I mean, if you just look at the, like these meta narrative, like cycle rotation
simply could not have been that fast
if it wasn't for that preference.
And like, you can maybe say,
oh, they should have said the guys are also whores.
And that would have been accurate too,
but it's like, it's like not worth saying guys are whores
cause you know, it's like, guys are just whores
if they can be whores all the time.
Like it's not a notable thing.
It's not differentiated from the bulk.
Right.
I could see that.
Agree. So true.
Yeah.
If if is the opposite of treehouse dick.
Starfish starfish. If if is the guy lying on his back starfishing as the girl does like extravagant dances on him like trying to get him hard and he just like refuses he like he cannot get past the semi right it's like he's sitting there he has three browser tabs open in his phone looking at like different kinds of porn to get to the level of
being able to be erect and engage in the sex that's
happening in front of him. Versus like the treehouse dick
man who doesn't even have a fucking phone. Like he hasn't
seen porn in like 11 years. He doesn't even know if it still
exists anymore. The only way that he's ever seen a woman
has been by tricking her into coming back to his tree house.
Slippage.
Yeah, we're getting a little innuendo mode here, I see.
I feel like Bibi is just dominating our timeline, our stream timeline. I know. I really like him. He's he fucking mobs for this.
No, I need to keep looking at my my head posture.
I got to get the Brian Johnson like chest strap going on.
So I'm like always like immaculate.
Like that's the one thing you can say anything about Brian Johnson.
You can say he looks like a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, I gotta get the Brian Johnson like chest strap going on. So I'm like always like immaculate.
Like that's the one thing you can say anything
about Brian Johnson.
You can say he looks like a vampire.
You can say it's unsettling that he does blood transfusions
from his son.
You can say he might kill himself
with his weird biomed experimentation.
You can call him a grifter,
but like there has never been a picture
of Brian Johnson taken in which his posture is anything less than immaculate.
Like he's always just, it's so perfect.
Like his spinal alignment is just jaw dropping.
He's like the absolute arch nemesis of scoliosis globally.
Scoliosis is not real though, right?
I feel like you can just, you can just sleep on a hard surface for a week and it's fine.
Yeah, it's another one of those things like a simple tunnel.
It's like carpal tunnels in your room.
Yeah, like just elevate your hands or type less or like it's not a big issue.
Yeah, exactly. This guy is like this is insane. I thought it was just
being annoying. No, no that's retarded like we love you. What are you saying? I'm heading out.
I got a flight. Okay you gotta head out. Yeah well, I guess that's it.
Sue's gone.
We're getting rugged.
Forty two minutes, though, I don't know.
You said he was going to stay for 45.
The drug tier list, I don't know, dude, like I'm fucking old now.
It's like caffeine, nicotine, huge space, everything else.
Right. Like that's. I'm like, maybe if you're a coder,
you can make an argument for amphetamines.
If you're doing some other like really repetitive,
slavish task, but maybe a podcast.
If you're a streamer, if you're a 24 hour streamer,
you can make an argument for amphetamines, maybe.
All this other stuff, like, I don't know. Psychedelics too, like, every time someone convinces me to do any psychedelic for the
past like 10 years, it's like I do the drug. And then I'm like, Yep. Yeah, I was right last time, like this shit's a scam. Just makes you a fucking retard.
Modafinil?
Nah, I don't know. I'm a moda hater too, man.
Like something about it makes me feel too cracked out.
Like it does the same weird dopaminergic effect thing
that like amphetamines do.
Makes me very skivvity. Yeah, amphetamines maybe for coding.
Physics guys like amphetamines a lot. I think a lot of physics might actually just be powered by
like guys making themselves stay up for so late that they like break through the veil.
Like people talk about like, oh, like I did DMT and I like spoke to demons or whatever.
But like,
I think the other way that you can speak to demons is by going and
keeping yourself awake for like a week on meth and becoming like absolutely
psychotic, right?
To the point where you like develop a new type of like subatomic molecule.
Develop a new type of like subatomic molecule.
What country are we moving to in the US gets wealth tax?
Oh, bro, you got enough money, the wealth tax is going to impact you.
Fuck. Getting flexed on out here.
What if they impose a wealth tax that it's like if you have more than $20,000 in a bank
account you get taxed 5% annually. That's like some fucking AOC shit. I guess that would probably be
bad. I don't know man like I think the thing with all of these like regulatory arbitrages is there
will simply always exist a Dubai like there will simply always exist a Singapore. It's a market
necessity, like, Singapore could literally be engulfed in like a
world historic gravitational anomaly where it just disappears
today. And like, still another Singapore would pop up
somewhere else, right? Where you just have, you just need
somewhere that's like known as like, okay, well, you can go here
and like taxes aren't a thing. You can rip money in and out of the system cash, no questions asked.
I just don't worry about it. Right. So I don't think you super have to worry about it existing,
you just have to like, you know, maybe the current iteration of Dubai will be in
like a better or worse climate in 50 years. Or maybe it's always Dubai. Like there isn't,
there isn't really a reason it would stop being Dubai. I just personally hate Dubai. So
like I do buy gigabare. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, chase chase has checking account fees.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, chase, chase has checking account fees.
I haven't looked at like, uh, cause like I've been using the same few checking accounts
for everything.
And like my credit union now is just fucking God tier.
Like somehow I'm making interest on my checking and savings and their like comparable rates.
And they're not doing that fucking thing they did
like 10 years ago where they were like,
okay, you're gonna make 0.25% annually on interest.
Like they're actually giving me real numbers of interest
for having something in like a checking account,
which is like, I don't know, it's crazy.
Wait, bro, $20 a month?
$20 a month to have a checking account.
Doesn't the average American,
I saw something recently that said the average American
literally has three figures in their checking account if they are under 35
So like how can you be taxed on like 4% of your total checking account monthly and exist?
Or do you I guess they just don't use Chase Bank like that's fair. I
Did have a I did have a credit union that tried to
charge me on like a business account, like $5 a month or
something. But I was just like, when they told me about it, I
was like, Oh, okay, I'm just gonna go to the credit union
down the street. And then they were like, Okay, we'll waive it.
So like, I think the thing with all of these fees is like, if
you're using like a local credit union or bank or something,
you can pretty much always just say like, oh, okay, well, I'll just put my money somewhere
else. And then they're like, ah, fuck. He's like slightly agentic. I didn't count on this
one, right? Yeah, I'm gonna start I'm gonna start shilling like real yields. I'm gonna start being like a yield max here, right?
Okay, we've hit our 45-minute mark, guys. I love you all. Godspeed. I will see you tomorrow.
I might actually be streaming something else with my buddy later today so we can get the
