Hey, hey, what's going on everybody?
Welcome guys from symbiosis. You want to do a quick intro? I'll start off
Familiar cow here from the nine realms team. I do BD and comms for Thor chain and for nine realms
Hello. Hello everyone. Yeah, thanks
Thanks for hosting this the future I'm a yeah, let me prove introduce myself. I'm eager. I'm head of busy at
Symbiosis today here. This means Nick
One of our developers who was responsible for native VTC integration into symbiosis and also
Our CEO of you will join soon. So yeah, happy to see you all guys here and
To make some noise about symbiosis torture integration today and yeah, let's start
Yeah, so a good to have you guys on and congrats on the new door chain integration
So do you want to do a quick run through and say like what you guys have shipped so far like what what symbiosis is?
And then what you guys shipped with with door chain and how people can people can use it
We can kind of dive in from there and we could also have anyone from the audience up to ask questions at any time
So if you want to come up and speak just request it to come up
So yeah, it looks like a good quick intro on what symbiosis is and what you guys are doing for sure
Yeah, yeah, so in general
Symbiosis is a cross chain
I'm index or cross chain liquidity protocol
that provides any turn your token swaps across
Different L2 L1s and not even chains
So I mentioned that you can swap. Let's say some if from the casing Kara to
I don't know like some used to see on a bit from Nova and
Everything is done in just one click in your wallet
With pretty good rates because you also connect on chain
Liquidity on chain Texas and on chain aggregators
Such as one inch open ocean or kicks decks and more. So
Yeah, that's what we're building and recently
Because we see huge demand on native BTC in the industry
We integrate a third chain for crushing swaps to native BTC for now only two
Soon we're gonna intro I think like a couple of weeks also swaps from native BTC will be possible
So yeah now you can also swap
Any tokens on 20 support the chains
B&B is a guessing and more to native BTC
So but it's basically what to do
We have started building symbiosis in 2021 and we managed to launch our first
Working version of you one in March 2022. So
Yeah, we well we're writing on the market in the main it almost for two years
And yeah, this is what to manage the build and
Yeah, we believe in native BTC in
This huge demand on it and that's why we decided to integrate torturing. Yeah
Yeah us two were big believers in Bitcoin swaps, obviously
Is this your first non-evm route? So every other chain that's connected right now is all evm chains
This is your first non-evm change is adding the coin in
Actually, no actually no, so
We had native BTC integration before I believe
Back at 2022. We had ran BTC integrated in the symbiosis
But you know what happened with this guys, so
Besides besides all like 19 evm chains that we have
We have our unique unique one chain, which is strong and
Great source of volume for us because we're only
One great working bridge that supports strong and this native BTC integration we actually can
non defy users who mostly use only Tron native BTC a theorem and maybe bnB so
Yeah, that's like so yeah, we had native BTC right before and we also have Tron
Yeah, I was actually kind of curious about about Tron especially so is that one of your highest volume chains?
I'm I'm kind of curious just which chains actually do the most volume for you guys
Like where do you see the most activity?
Is it like on ETH L2's or is it on some of the smaller networks?
Or is a lot of it like, you know coming in and out of Tron because like at Thor chain
You know the community is you know always debating like, you know
what chains to add next and where to go and I guess just like getting some some real data around like where volume actually is and
What where users want to go would be helpful. So yeah, I'm just kind of curious
Like do you get like is Tron like one of your biggest, you know, non, you know, if L1
Networks or like where do you see the most volume coming through?
Yes, so talking about on volume transactions and unique addresses
I think Zacchic Sync is still doing his way in our protocol
Then torture that no, not so sorry when Tron goes after this
So yeah, Tron is already like second of your chain in terms of volume
And then like other L2 chains and the L1 go after them like a bit room scroll
Optimism and others. So yeah, but I think Zacchic Sync
Is still in his way. So but yeah, we apply with things that the Bitcoin view outcome
We all come all of them. I can next three or six months. Yeah
I'm sure you know that that there were changes more than just
Bitcoin like we also have other UTXO chains
so I don't know if you guys have had discussion like obviously there's a lot less demand for you know, things like
Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin, Doge, but I
I'm sure you guys know that that's also something that that door chain also
You know just throwing it out there that if that's something that you guys are are interested in then
It's as easy as doing integration for Bitcoin. Just that just changing the output to
Litecoin or any of the other
Chains to make even more roots possible through
Yeah, so we had an internal discussion about it and we definitely have plans to integrate
More I can say coins that don't have smart contracts. Yeah, like
Litecoin Bitcoin Cash and others so we have them today some plans for this
Now we just want to focus only on native BTC to kind of
promote this integration across
Bitcoin and non Bitcoin community so that you have
To make seamless crotcheting swaps to BTC or from BTC
20 other supported blockchain networks
So yeah, we will integrate them for sure, but a little bit later. Yeah
Cool so your guys plan is basically to
You know kind of build build one step at a time and just put
Like right now you can swap from any of any of your supported chains to Bitcoin
but you can't swap from Bitcoin and then later in the future the plan is to
Make it so you can swap from Bitcoin and just make it a more full-fledged integration be able to go from one to two
To the other basically like have to have the bridge go both ways. Yeah, so
Swaps from BTC will be label like very soon. I think in February or early March
It will be already valuable in symbiosis and talking about other coins. I think we have
plan settled for quarter free right now
So yeah by the end of this time. I think we'll be able to add
Litecoin Bitcoin cash XRP support as well
Do you guys want to talk about your API at all like I like who uses your API like how developers can can start using your
API and by like what exactly you can do with it
I'm sure people would definitely like to know how to use your guys product to you know
Implement their own in implement swaps into their own apps dapps
Wallets and and anything else or even just who uses your your API right now
Just any kind of details about like the developer experience with with symbiosis
In symbiosis, we're trying to focus not only on retail users, but also on partnerships integrations
That's why since 2022. I have
SDK both mobile and desktop
Among our clients are guys like lead at five socket
Ranko which is like part of torturing ecosystem as well
when pretty good touch with like this trust wallet with
Other wallet providers, so I think this native BTC integration we can boost up integrations there as well
So yeah, we have a lot of clients mod most of them across in aggregators
Crossing liquidity protocol and we have our own liquidity as I just integrate us for like a tool one chains
but there is this BTC integration like
Mainly like this lead at five is trust for it. I believe we can
Boost up integration with them. So
Yeah, I think that's like all major players that are currently using symbiosis API
Cool, yeah, I mean it's been a big part of our strategy is just integrations and
Obviously aggregators are a big part of that like a lot of
There's a lot of a lot of wallet indexes that use aggregators like like Ranko obviously one of the biggest
and you know a lot of people use them for liquidity, so
obviously great to have you guys in on the on the BD side of things and
Hopefully that means that we can lend some more wallet integrations
Because that's that's just a huge driver of liquidity fees and really what drives a lot of
activity across the network generates a lot of yield for for LPs, so
obviously like any kind of wallet integrations that we can land off of
You know off of you using your guys API and then like where you're already inside
Inside the wallets and things I started offering BTC swaps would be awesome
Talking about wallets. We are only talk to them. So I had a talk with like
most of them recently, I think like this week then we announced our native bits integration and
mostly all of them are really excited and
That's how we can boost up integration with them because
All wallets are also looking into providing decentralized crossing swaps for native BTC and
Now I personally believe we are one of the most seamless solution of the market that provides it so
We are working in this direction
Yeah, I'm not sure if you have any
Thoughts on like door chain DEX aggregation because I know that's something you guys are doing to to make it pretty seamless to
To swap cross chain. So like a third chain DEX aggregation makes so you only need to sign one transaction to go
You know multiple hops which which should make it pretty easy to
To do Bitcoin swaps like I like other a lot of other
Aggravators like Rango you need to sign multiple transactions and it gets you it gets you cross chain
but there's still multiple steps that you need to go through to
Do that, but I believe you guys use just Thortein's native DEX aggregator, which really simplifies
Going cross chain because you can just sign one transaction and then and then do it
So I'm wondering if you have any thoughts on that or I don't see out any
Musings on DEX aggregation in the space and how symbiosis is using that
Yeah, so everything on symbiosis is done in just one click
Maybe some things in just in two clicks. Yeah, because in some cases need to firstly approve tokens like
If yeah, if we're talking about gas token, it's it's always one click experience for the user
So, yeah, just sign one transaction and you can go cross chain across now 21 chains, so yeah
Our main advantage one of our main advantages across our competitors
Like any 20 token swaps as well. So
Yeah, right now you can go
To you can swap to native PTC from any token which is supported on DEX's
I'm talking about any it's any token because I
Let's say like op token from optimism. We can use our bit room talking from our bit room one and
Just simply make a crushing swaps native BTC
That's how we simplify user experience a lot
So, yeah, and torture and help us a lot in this case as well as one the intrapreneur ocean and okay stacks
With also our partners for on chain aggregation
Yeah, the integration is super impressive like I didn't actually realize that
Like full cross chain from any VM was was kind of possible
Planning around with a lot of different routes and you know going from ZK sync going from a token not even like the native asset
But a token on ZK sync to Bitcoin in one transaction was a seamless experience
Can you like talk about the the technical implementation? So how how does the the
bridging or cross chain work between like ZK sync and avalanche because I think I think the the common connection point here between
Symbiosis and torching is is basically through the avalanche
Yeah, so how does how do you get from like ZK sync to avalanche? Sure. Sure. So when we talk about
all technical stuff under the hood
Firstly for crushing swaps we use our own liquidity and our own relayers network
Can say like when you want to try when you want to swap let's say like use DC from ZK sync
To native BTC as a rotable like this. So firstly we swap
First we will breach this use DC from
ZK sync to avalanche using our own relayers and our own liquidity and
Then then you DC arrives on avalanche
We use a method that we call
And then as a next step we interact with store chain contracts
Execute code data not only on soft chain, but also in destination chain and
Yeah, after you just is breached avalanche. We interact with storching contracts and then use a gets has here's a her
So, yeah, that's how it works
Yeah, that's that's incredible
Yeah, congratulations on that. I mean, it's just such a cool experience
And I think it's I think it's really the first time that users can go from really any EVM chain or L2
Directly to Bitcoin in one transaction to native Bitcoin. I haven't seen that anywhere else. So I really feel like this is a pretty
Monumental innovation. Thanks. I already saw it a bit about it. Yeah. Thanks for
So curious like I mean I know so the other ways is way more complicated right going like if we were if we wanted to go
Bitcoin to ZK sync that's much more challenging because a
Transaction size limits like in the opportune. You can only really support 80 characters
So I'm sure this isn't really fully on your roadmap right now
But one thing we are working on on the Thor chain side is this concept of memo list transactions where you can register
an intent for a transaction using the Thor chain
So that that the native cosmos chain obviously doesn't have a memo size limit so we can register an intent
That will ultimately come from a Bitcoin address
And that intent could include a swap out through symbiosis to ZK sync and then once a user posts
You know from you know a certain amount of Bitcoin from from the Bitcoin network that intent will be executed
So that's just something to keep in mind from your side. Is that hopefully in a few months?
We'll have that ability and we can go the other way as well
Yeah, of course like I'm also very bullish on intents
Yeah, and yeah, we'll be waiting once you release it guys
Yeah, but as I mentioned before like
Swaps from native BTC to EVM centrone will be available very soon
When talks is biggest wallets on native BTC, and I think we can make with my collaboration is
Xd5 or quick support at the more to provide like the most seamless experience for the users
Yeah, the other thing I wanted to add with memoryless transactions is just
Abstracting away the kind of wallet connection part of things because obviously like on symbiosis right now
everything basically being an EVM chain and you know Tron also being supported by
The wallets that that work with EVM really simply
Yeah, I think you will see your joint. Yeah, sorry for interrupting you. Yeah, go ahead. Oh
Yeah, so just finishing this point real quick like pretty much every
Every chain on symbiosis right now being able to be supported by generic EVM wallets
Like metamask or you know, whatever else people use for their their browser extensions and memoryless transactions being able to abstract that away
To make it so you don't need to connect a separate wallet for for a Bitcoin transaction
And so now not only does it enable DEX aggregation through Bitcoin more easily and being able to make that second
Through the DEX aggregator without running into a memo opportune
Size limit but it would also make it so you can just send a transaction from from any Bitcoin while without needing any kind of connection
The kind of the UX that's being pictured a lot is just some kind of QR code where it's all registered in the background
But then it's just a QR code where you just send a transaction to and it obviously that could be from any wallet
So it kind of abstracts away the the wallet connection piece of things where
It gets complex when you're trying to connect to multiple wallets to to one website and it's
It just makes things a lot more complicated when you know
A lot of EVM wallets don't support Bitcoin. So there's multiple wallet connections involved, but that would kind of abstract away. So it would be
Two-prong improvement there both on the DEX aggregation side and then just like simplifying the wallet side. Thanks
Yeah, I got that sounds very interesting and like I'm think we should look at it deeper
If I go to try it, it's more like a way to attract more
Non defy and maybe like web to users am I right?
Yeah, I mean I think of it even as simplifying things for defy users because it's like, you know today you think about who uses who is
90% of defy in that's people using
EVM chains, you know a lot of them aetherium that you felt use and
they're all doing they're used to just you know, one wallet connection and
You know, maybe the probably the only people that are you know used to a UX
Otherwise is people using door chain because they're used to connecting
You know a Bitcoin wallet or something and doing a swap
So it's like the UX isn't quite there yet for multiple wallet connections
and you know things get kind of messy on the browser level, but it should make it a lot easier for people to just
you bring your own security you bring your own wallet you can still hold your Bitcoin on your ledger and
You know and still make it small
Yeah, yeah, but sounds really really interesting and yeah, we'll keep it in mind this
functionality the third chain provides
If you can make it possible
This is such what it's like
Trust wallet it will be amazing like killer feature
Yeah, well with trust while you can swap from directly in the wallet so it's not really necessary to
Do some kind of wallet connection with with trust all of it
they do have that functionality but
Like when you're already in the wallet that experience is kind of abstracted away because the wallet can just sign transactions for you
Yeah, good. That's true. That's true. Good. Good point. Yeah
Yeah, that's the way to who's coming on from the symbiosis accounts are I missed Mr. Navy if you want to just do a quick intro
Yeah, let me briefly explain my role in seabirders
My name is will I'm CEO of the product and
Actually, we are very excited been
a partner of such a well-known brand in the history
Actually, the hot topic that we would like to discuss is a top group top root support
Which has recently been announced and we are waiting for the such functionality actually
Yeah, I'm just wondering what's your like the roadmap in the timeline for this feature
Yeah, I can speak to that
Taproot support is a little tricky. It's something that we're like scoping out right now
I think it will require a hard fork of for changes because
The you know, the bolts currently can't sign taproot transactions
I just need to verify that but that's the current understanding
For chain has hard fork before and we've been kind of, you know
Saving up for our next one, you know certain tasks that we need a hard fork for
So hopefully that will happen
You know sometime this year. I can't give you an exact timeline on that
but we are actively looking into it and that obviously is becoming and more and more a
Demand in this space. So that's something that we're we're definitely going to definitely going to do
And hopefully we can get that scheduled for for some time this year, but we'll keep you updated for sure
Yeah, the devs have been talking about a hard fork for a while and it's mostly just been put off because it's just clean up things
Which you know is like kind of lower on the priority list
But obviously the major thing that a hard fork would allow is taproot support
So I mean, it's definitely requested by you guys by a lot of other
wallets, especially ones that
They do ordinals and things. So it's definitely on on the list of
Priorities being that taproot is growing in popularity so much and yeah
In my opinion definitely should be a high priority getting any taproot support on there because it just opens up
More and more wallet users and especially people that are interacting on chain
Which is the exactly the kind of user that that door chain wants to serve
Yeah, thanks for the clarification and
What's your opinion on the inscription market and be received 20 seconds in general? I
Think I mean it's really interesting
And I think it's gonna continue to gain traction and also something that
We've kind of talked about and we're actually working and talking with a few teams that are heavily in that BRC 20 space
And I think you know in the same way that we extended our EVM integrations with DEX aggregation
There could be ways to extend our Bitcoin integration with inscriptions
And so that's something that that we're also
Having an eye on and I think you know with some collaborations with teams and in that space
We'll be able to kind of expand into that functionality
Yeah, there's been a lot of teams like like or to swap
I believe is announced that that they are gonna be using
Thor chain for some some cross chain liquidity and I think it's just it's just powerful using using Thor chain as just the medium
Of bringing in users from from other chains like the way the way I think about the word chain is just the crypto native
On and off ramp where like you have you have the user on one chain. You need to on ramp them to your single chain
While it whatever it is, whether it's like inscriptions, you know ordinals, which I guess is the same thing
or DeFi applications or anything you're gonna need some kind of way to move users across chain and obviously Thor chain being
You know the the biggest way of going from
from aetherium where obviously there's
You know many many users who are very active on chain and are very willing to try new things like
You know light like ordinals and are interested in just experimenting and playing around
just makes it pretty powerful for a door chain to be the on and off ramp of
Going back and forth. So I like I think it's gonna be a big driver of
I'm just people using door chain in the future. Just people wanting to experiment in the ordinal space and
Curious to see what kind of stuff is developed on there
Definitely some some marketplaces springing up out of the out of the woods right now, but we'll see like, you know, really
Where what people stick around to do. Is there anything interesting that catches your eye in the ordinal space or things that you're playing around with?
Yeah, so thanks. Thanks for the answer. Yeah, so regarding like ordinals and bursary 20 market
we're quite bullish on it and
In the biting mode to see you guys live and supported. So yeah, we're planning to become the first
Native crushing protocols for
Inscriptions and bursary 20. So yeah, we have that we definitely have plans for this
So, yeah, hopefully we can
Attract more users to to the second system from all the chains that we support right now
Yeah, I mean is that something you guys are supporting
Like with your own liquidity like sort of how you do all of your other swaps or are you like
Looking into some different solutions in the ordinal space like aggregation
Or is it something that you're just you're gonna make your own pools and your own protocol for?
We're not sure actually so
Why still discussing attorney on what I should do better like
Big I'm big I'm a sort of aggregator for this or
Create our own solution. So yeah, I just can't tell you tell me right now what
Yeah, I mean at least from our side
it's always it's always made more sense to just stick with the aggregation at first and then if
You know if there's sufficient demand then then it makes sense to build into the into the protocol itself
So like like right now it's definitely like a white hot thing and people are very interested in it
But obviously there's it there'd be a huge lift to start adding things like oh, well first we obviously we need taproot
But then I'm actually adding support for you know, BRC 20s and inscriptions and things would take a ton of dev work
which is you know, it's unclear what the future is, but just starting starting out just providing liquidity to
Make it possible for others to do that is a great way to kind of just test the waters and and see where things are before
Committing fully into you know, putting a ton of resources into developing a solution which you know
we don't know obviously what what the future of
You know that kind of protocol is but at the very least we have the tools today to provide
provide liquidity for people to
To do so on other protocols which are you know, a little bit more scrappy and and bespoke to
so I mean that that's kind of been our strategy with with with EBM since we launched the DEX aggregator because it's like
Like we have a lot of native asset liquidity, but ERC 20 is in the long tail assets
They're always gonna have more liquidity on on other networks like like like Uniswap or just any of the long tail
Assets like the Avax DEX is on avalanche. So
Trying trying to bring in our own liquidity is
Always going to be more difficult than just aggregating
So just a lot of time I feel like outsourcing is just the the way to go into providing you provide the core product
like you guys provide the aggregator and then others to have the liquidity and then it's a match made in heaven where
You know, you know, you're not wasting all your all your effort, you know
Putting all your eggs in that basket when you just use providing that the backbone to aggregate someone else
Yeah sounds sounds logical
So, yeah, we can also open it up to community questions if people want to come up on stage ask symbiosis
Any questions about about their product or where they're going in the future. I
mean, I definitely like to get a
what you guys where your guys plans are besides just store chain just to get a
Better idea of like what you what you guys are developing like what your roadmap is and you know
Where you see symbiosis going in the next the next year or two. Like is it new networks? Is it different functionalities?
It's just integrations, you know, what's your guys strategy and roadmap going forward? Yeah, so
Native BTSE actually will be on the first place this year. Okay, so
Besides it besides native BTSE, of course, I have plans to support more
Chains that appear in the market like
Octaiko shardoom is that a chain and more so all of the chains are definitely no plans and plan to support them
Also, we have plans to popularize our cross chains up feature
If you're not familiar with it
It allows you to add liquidity in any sort of DeFi protocols on any chains
With any token of any chain so we can think about like we can provide liquidity to let's say our way on polygon
With any talking on avalanche of the kissing. So that's feature that applying to focus on more and
Besides it we have plans to release
Our proof of proof of stake nodes. So currently all relayers
And we are open it for our community
Who had some amount of the SS tokens
So our layers will be public and everyone will be able to run a note in symbiosis
So and yeah, I think we've soon come up
So currently we have the second version of all of our protocol and we definitely have
Some plans to improve it and release symbiosis v3
so I think that's all plans that we have right now and
Awesome I just invented a cryptosailor. I didn't
Hey, thanks again for having me on really great to be on another four chain space and learn more about
Probably like myself many people are not able to follow everything that's happening in crypto
So I'm learning more about it as we go and my first
questions us I was listening and hearing you talk about the source of liquidity and
Markets or whatever you would like to call them function on your own network. So I'd like to understand a little bit more about
The risk that there would be to the liquidity what scape safeguards are being put into place for that as well as
describe maybe a little bit more about
The risk of the network itself and I have maybe one question after that also. Thank you
Okay, maybe view you want to go ahead with this technical question
Okay, maybe I can take it to myself yeah, so when we talk about
All the layers right now they run on proof authority mechanism
So among our validators and mostly our investors and partners like Binance Labs bigs and ventures
Again like I'm a technical guy so I'm I
Can't tell it deeper on how it for works, but it definitely explained in our docs
Things that we have regarding like additional points of security is that one node is run by
Symbiosis team and we call this node by a better node and
Like most of the nodes start saying in Froude transactions
Can block like all of them?
Yeah, that's additional point security. Maybe Nick has something to say about it
Yeah, so actually you're absolutely correct
this is proof of authority protocol currently, but we're on a road to proof of stake and
Spend anything locked inside the protocol but can prevent
Malicious actions by other other parties
All right, I think that really helps understanding that thank you very much my only
Follow-up would be you know, what do you see as a primary competition? How do you address?
You know competing in that market that you're in
What is what are your ideas around how it is that you know?
DeFi and decentralized applications should be competing in a market even with centralized exchanges
It's a very different value proposition
Between let's say c5 for chain and even with proof of authority with symbiosis
and what what do you think of
And maybe that relates to what you see what happening with some of the consternation
There's been some issue in the Thor chain community and interested to know your perspective on how it is that you're trying to price yourself
Our competitors. I mean, I'm on bridges among crossing protocols
I think we're definitely provide
Definitely thrown and native PTC
In and of course besides it we also provide like most popular roads like on the two chains so once and etc
Since symbiosis has a concept of cross chain. I'm index. We're able to provide much better rates and transaction speed
for the users and you can see
On how it works. Let's say on popular aggregators
They were actually waiting in the most of
In the most of routes, yeah
So besides that we provide one of the most seamless UX and UI
among among all cross chain
where it's possible to select any talk in one chain and then you're talking on another and
Just make it one click experience
Then talk about centralized solutions, I think in this case
Defy applications already outcome
Centralized solutions in some cases. So I'm going to talk about the crossing protocols when talk about perpetuals DEX's and more
So I'm think step by step
More volume and the transactions those are going to
So they just matter of time like personally I only use
defy defy protocols, so I don't have money on centralized exchanges and yeah, I think it's just matter of time, so
Everyone will understand like positive things of
Decentralized solutions instead of using centralized thing. I everyone start using
Like most most of the users will start using only them. Yeah
where this is a grow since
It should happen soon when you just need to wait
Thank you very much I do yeah absolutely agree that I
Think everybody who is up to speed with what's going on in crypto understands interchange is the future
horizontal scalability gives us best scalability in the ecosystem and
Thanks very much for going through some of this with us here helping to learn about symbiosis
Hope to myself I host a show and I hope to be talking more about this kind of interchange thing coming up also
Later this evening. I really appreciate everybody and best of luck to everybody in this space and we'll see you again next time
Thanks. Thanks for that question. Yeah
On so and then if anyone else would like to come up and and ask questions for we
For a wrap-up yet scum it's left here. So anyone like to come up and ask the symbiosis team
Some more questions and please just request
The way in here doesn't seem like it's adding up Honsa. I just failed
Well with any other topics that you guys want to talk about at the at the symbiosis team well
Or wait and see if anyone else wants you to come up. I
Just want to tell that I'm really amazed by the technology that is inside the tower chain
I want to wish you luck with
Hard forking to top-road version. I think it will be very huge task
And we're really waiting for it
Yeah, so it's pretty high priority for you guys. It's not actually I mean, I wouldn't say it's a huge task
But it's obviously takes a lot of bandwidth away from like other priorities. So it's just figuring out where to balance the priorities of
You know do we do we work on depth do the depths work on you know
New features and you know things like that are you know P zero or is it you know all hands on the on a hard fork?
which has obviously a very different kind of return with just that more being a
You know cleanup thing, but then also we get we get taproot
But either way it's something that that we're that they're hoping to do in the next couple months
but definitely make sure that the devs are aware of the
especially from for at from our you know for aggregation partners like you guys because it's important to be able to serve all of the
All the users that want to use the word chain and not being and excluding huge plots of people
Who are using the new dress format? So thanks for making that known
Yeah, thanks for creating such such a great product
Don't know from which things we need to discuss like
Discuss more. I think we talked about everything if anyone have any questions yet
Feel free to raise a hand and ask them
Yep, I think that's it and don't see any more hands being raised but hey, thank you guys so much for for coming out
Obviously a great first step for the integration here and we'll definitely keep you up to date with what we're you know
What's going on with taproot and with memo list because obviously this can make a big difference in your guys product and and how you?
You know are serving Bitcoin swaps in the future
Yeah, I also look forward to working with you guys to to bring some of these
These swap routes to wallets other aggregators and you know, however, we can help on the on the BD front
It's definitely that would be great. So
Thank you guys and I guess we can we can wrap it up. Yeah. Thanks again and closing thoughts. Thanks again. Yeah
Thank you. Thank you. Have a great day. Bye