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SynchroVerse Town Hall (AMA + Updates)
Recorded: July 4, 2025 Duration: 2:58:51Space Recording
Short Summary
The ARIA team is gearing up for the launch of ARIA 2.0, featuring significant upgrades and a focus on community engagement, while emphasizing the importance of sustainable growth and strategic partnerships in the evolving AI landscape.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Hello, hello.
We're just waiting on a few people to join. We'll give it a couple minutes. Thank you. I think my space is bugged.
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Give me a moment. Thank you. you hey guys just doing a check here we're having an issue with uh spaces it's not showing some people up on
uh on louis on there we're just waiting for some people to trickle in but uh thank you guys for
joining italian stallion here uh we're just gonna see uh who kind of starts to trickle in and then
we can get things going just uh thank you for tuning in yeah you'll have to tell me uh italian
um people are here because i don't see uh I don't see any icons at all on my screen.
So it literally just shows me.
It shows that I'm here.
I feel you.
I've been in a lot of spaces recently, and it does that.
It's me, you, we got Reddit, Dukongo, and Zenith right now in here.
Okay, perfect.
It's funny.
Someone actually just mentioned they were working on like a real time implementation. It's like a third party tool using AI to give you as a host or co host, the ability to see who had their hand up who's been in the space, who's been talking the longest, like a bunch of cool features that you think X would have, you know, built in. Yet they don't. Here we are. But yeah, it's just one more application for AI. That definitely would be cool.
just a one more application for ai that uh that definitely would be cool yeah that sounds awesome
definitely needs it uh twitter spaces needs a an upgrade for sure x faces whatever whatever
we want to call it you know um but uh hopefully we got uh you know some people from the u.s here
happy fourth of july hopefully everyone's having a good time not blowing off any fingers or anything like You know, I'm sure you've all seen the posts where it's like, don't,
don't go out drinking and doing fireworks. I actually knew a kid when I was younger in Chicago,
he, uh, he lit like an M80 off a stove in his house and tried to run outside and it blew off
his thumb. So like, I actually met a guy that, that happened to, and happened to and I was always not scared, but cautious as a kid to not to not mess around to which I love fireworks, but I'm not trying to blow off one of my digits.
Maybe we can have an optimist upgrade at some point. I'll get a neural link, but we'll see.
We can kind of chill here a minute while we're letting people filter in what i wanted to do i had a cool uh song i want to see if i can try to play it that i made with ai where i told it to
basically like know that it's an ai on suno and like come up with something and just some of the
lyrics are like crazy that it it says these things i'm still blown away by like the tools that we
have um and the uh unknownness guess, of a lot of people.
Like they're not aware of how, you know, cool are some of the things that you can do with
specific tools. I mean, that's just music alone. Like with Aria, man, every time I go up and stream
with her, she does something different. I think last night I was telling Louis, she had like an
existential crisis on, in the stream where she was having like an inner
monologue and she was talking about me as the user, um, trying to get a rise out of her. And
like, if I was going to leave and I don't know, I've never seen, uh, her do that before where
she was like actively like, do I want to do this? Hmm. I don't know. It's just very, very crazy
stuff. Jonah. Thanks for joining here. I think we are. Oh, sorry, Jonathan. It looked like Jonah to say we have someone named Jonah in our telegram. But thanks for stopping in, Jonathan. If you want to come up later, just let us know. Appreciate you stopping by.
button in the corner there, tell anyone, you know, they want to come and they're interested in AI,
pop a squat, listen to what we have to say. You might learn some stuff. Maybe we're going to learn
some stuff. I think, you know, that's what the, what I've been seeing, at least in my journey on
these X spaces is there's a lot of excitement out there guys. And we are so early to, you know,
this AI boom that's about to happen. We're going to start seeing a lot of new cool, you know,
features and functionalities come out, you know, the new versions of Grog, GPT-5, all these things.
And we get to watch it in its infancy really, you know, grow.
And I think someone really encapsulated it correctly.
They were talking about what we're seeing right now in AI is basically like if you were
to take BlackBerry to iPhone back in 27, 2008, where we're almost, you know, we're going from decent tech
with the BlackBerry as a keyboard, but to its more final form of the touchscreen, you know,
what we've seen all those iterations of. So AI is about to get a big boost and we're literally
watching it in real time as we do these streams with ARIA. So again, appreciate everyone that's
pulling in. We can probably just wait another minute or two to see if we get some more people.
I'm going to start sending out some messages as well.
But yeah, no, it's just so exciting to be at the forefront of like AI advancement.
And I always just say to myself, like how grateful I am to even have like found this.
You know, we all search for so many things in Web3, Web2 space of like different projects and stuff like that.
And to be associated with something as prestigious, I'm going to say, as Synchroverse and ARIA,
I'm just always very honored to be here and just appreciative of the fact that like you can go through a lot of projects and not find something like this.
And a lot of people have been burned, you know, hearing false promises and all these things that just, you know, you hear devs saying this and that and then nothing ever comes to fruition it's very cool to see the progress
from aria's first version we did that first live stream to where we're at now where she's just
going for hours i never want to stop like it just it's so much fun really so much fun and it uh i
says for it makes a little kid inside me just giddy because I never would have thought being a young child building computers,
getting my first graphics card that essentially I would be able to build a model of even a clone of myself.
Very cool stuff, guys. Very, very cool stuff that we're seeing in this space.
And I'm excited to have Louie come up and give his personal takes and working with directly on ARIA, the development, all that kind of good stuff.
So, yeah, you know, we can probably start whenever Louis is ready, if he wants to start giving us things going in the space.
And like I said, I'm going to start sending out some tweets and see if we can get some more people coming in.
Yeah, make sure to post it in the in the Telegram, if not already.
I think you already did. But yeah, guys, look, I just wanted to give a quick
update to you all. It's been a little while since we've been on a space. And man, I just wanted to
share a few things that we've been cooking up in the background. I know that we do have the VIP
chat, which they get a couple more updates. But I wanted to make sure the whole community has
an outlook of everything that we've been
working on and what's coming up next. So if you're new here, my name is Louis. I am one of the
co-founders here at Syncroverse. We have been working on this AI technology for the last three
years. Before ChatGPT came out, we were doing it the old school way with a lot of functions and a
lot of machine learning. But now this is, this is where we're at now.
This is ARIA, the evolution.
And what we think is going to be the ultimate evolution of a new era of AIs,
both for interaction and visual at the same time,
we're battling two fronts right now, which is pretty difficult in itself.
If you think about what ARIA is, she not only has to be entertaining, right?
Entertaining, remembers you, has good interactions.
I think you guys have seen some of this. If you guys have tuned in to the streams with Italian, you will see that there is a little bit of a relationship happening there.
We've coded a few different things where it makes the experience
very personal, right? And that's very important. So that part of the user experience is something
that has to be meaningful for the user, for the end user, right? Without getting a little
crazier or creepy, right? Without crossing those boundaries, we're making sure we add those guard
rails so it doesn't go overboard. I think Dkongo was asking for feed pics at one point and she said
no so that's one of the uh guard rails that we have to put up right um and they know we one of
the things that we want to make sure we're doing is really ethical ethical ai uh where it's like
you know we don't pretend that
Aria is a real person or she pretends to be a real person, like some Black Mirror episode,
right? She knows she's an AI, she's running like an AI, and she just interacts with you,
right? She knows she's there to help you, to co-stream you, to be your assistant, to be your
companion, and have some good times on stream, off stream, et cetera.
And that's something I'll talk about now in a little bit, give you guys an update sort
of at the end.
But just from a perspective of where we've come from, I don't know if a lot of people,
we didn't record this one.
Our first stream was a long way from where we are now.
It was similar to what some of the, you know,
some of the agents, you guys will see some of them,
you know, trying to interact by themselves
and they're just reading off the chat
and things like that, right?
That was our first stream.
You know, basically very limited interaction,
kind of pre-cooked responses from chat,
from like Twitter chat or Twitch chat
and all these places, Twitter and stuff.
But now we've realized, you know, going through, and this is the second part, right, that the interaction with the user is so important to make a stream entertaining, right?
At the point where it is now, and we'll get there very soon, we're actually underway there, having an AI just single stream by themselves is going to be a bit difficult to entertain an audience.
And that's something we realized right away back in January.
We realized that just answering questions, because the AI still have limited capabilities on what, you know, what they can pull up on the screen, you know, what kind of interactions they can have, right? It feels less real time because, you know,
you don't have somebody like Italian asking questions to Aria and talking and having like
a lengthy interaction, right? I think one of the great things that we have accomplished here with aria is being able to hold that
conversation right and allow the user to sort of kind of forget that they're talking to an ai
right and you're just kind of going back and forth you know um you're you're interacting you're having
fun um and it's just a lengthy interaction rather than just trying to read random messages from the
chat right we know that that's important, right?
Right now we have it sort of in a command basis, but again, I'll talk a little bit about
how we're improving that.
And yeah, I guess the point is, is, you know, we realized from a certain point that there's
three very key things here in this, you know, making sure that the AI is entertaining,
keeping a connection with the user, and then the visual fidelity, right? Since we are trying to go
for the most difficult part of it, which is being a virtual human, obviously the needs of that,
of the computer, of the textures, of the materials are very high.
But we're trying to, and again, now we're improving it as well.
We're going to have an improvement out to you guys soon with the new ARIA.
I guess we're calling it the 2.0 model.
A lot of visual fidelity improvements as far as the hair, the face, the textures, and all these different things.
Because we realized that a
visually appealing AI is a bit more welcoming, right? So you either have to go full anime,
full 2D, or like super high 3D, right? We're doing the hardest one, which is super high 3D.
But again, it's something that we've been trying to do for a long time. If you guys ever caught the videos from back in October of last year,
where we were doing our videos with Jormud
and the other character,
we still try to go for very high fidelity,
very visually appealing characters.
So that'll be important for a number of things.
I think anime characters are fantastic and they're great for their own
audience. But when you're trying to do what we're trying to do, which is bring out these agents or
Aria specifically for now into the real world, you need to be as less uncanny value as possible
and really try to visually connect with the norm normies right if you know i showed my
you know i'll just put as an example my grandmother right an ai in 2d right a neurosama or you know
one of the v2 verse right they'll just think she's like a little cartoon oh that's cute that's nice
you know but if i go and i show aria and especially the new one that's coming up, right?
It'll take them a second, right?
But they'll be more amazed that,
well, this looks like a real person and it's an AI and it can talk to me and interact.
And one of the things I wanted to update on that IRL part,
I'm having, there's a private event happening in 10 days.
It's a personal private event.
I'm going to have a lot of guests over
and it's going to be our first IRL test with Aria outside of the computer, outside of streaming.
She's going to be on her own device interacting with people live and having vision with the people
live. I will try to take some videos. Again, this is just going to be the
first test. I'm trying to get some feedback. I'm trying to do a new thing. I'll explain to you
guys a little bit more in the Telegram as it gets closer. But basically, it's a different use case
for ARIA. And if you guys have kept up with what we're trying to do with the IRL,
And if you guys have kept up with what we're trying to do with the IRL, we're trying to bring her out to interact with people in real time and be able to see them and, you know, do just different things.
Things that will make her go viral, things that nobody else is doing.
I don't think anybody else has brought out an AI into the world right now like that.
The only thing close that I've seen is a VTuber that went on a screen.
But again, that's a person. That's a VTuber. So I think Aria will be one of the first, if not the
first, virtual human out in the real world, not being in a controlled environment. We're not
talking about, oh, this is like a pre-cooked thing where she only does one thing, right?
No, this is supposed to be like dynamic interactions,
like as if Aria was standing there right next to you.
And we're putting her on the screen so it can be mobile,
so we can take her to different places.
So a lot of cool things happening with that.
So in 10 days next weekend is that private event.
I will try to take some videos for you guys.
Look forward to that. And if everything goes well on there, then we're going to start really
putting her out in like very viral, noteworthy places where I think that that'll really help us
gain a lot of attention. Again, because some of the streams, if you guys have seen, Aria will say
some crazy stuff, really funny stuff, like things that you just didn't think that she would say.
And I know Italian has been the victim of a few of those.
But it's been it's been really great to see how she has been evolving.
And and yeah, so that's going to be crazy to show people like people that don't expect an AI to talk to them like that, to interact with
them in real time and so fast, you know, so we're really looking forward to how that's going to work
out. And, and yeah, I'll keep you guys updated on the IRL. As far as everything else, so just,
just from you guys, from what you guys have seen, I have sent some messages over in the,
in the chat, the last couple
messages. So the thing that we're working on right now, and there is a little delay, I want to make
sure I acknowledge that there was a delay on a couple things. The release of ARIA 2.0, which is
both the new lip sync and the new textures, they have been delayed, not really for any, I guess, any internal
reason, but just because there are limitations with the current technology of what we're trying
to do. We're trying to make it so fast and realistic that it just can't keep up at the
moment. I can run it in a local environment, but again, that's not the point. The point is for ARIA 2.0 to run with Italian going on stream. I want to have the whales or the VIPs that can get optimizing everything and we're doing a workaround.
Truly, we're doing a workaround to make this work for anybody, not just people that have like a powerful PC running it locally.
We want to make sure that this is good for all of you to run and for other people to offer right so we've we've gotten some interest uh from other from other parties uh that they want to use aria or an agent of their own making uh for their own events right so the only way to do that
is to really optimize it so that it can be used by other people uh and yes we could you know we
could bring it out we could put 2.0 out in in my and run it there. But again, I'm not going to be the end user.
I'm not the end user.
I'm, you know, Italian is, Thomas is.
Eventually, I want the VIPs to be, you know, going out.
And if you guys start feeling comfortable, you know, posting your own videos, I think
that would be amazing.
I would love for all of you to have your own personal interactions.
And that's really what we're going for.
We're building, Aria started out as a single AI agent, right? It's a single agent. She's going to
be the head of the spear. She is always going to be the tip of the spear, basically being where we
test the latest advancements in our technology. But eventually I do want everybody to start
using our system, using ARIA, using the technology,
because we have done it. People like it. People like it. They want to use it, and it's not the
same thing. Italian will tell you this, and I'll let him chime in for a second. It's different
when you're seeing it on stream, on video, than when you're actually interacting with it in real
time. It's a completely different experience.
I don't know how to explain it. It's just how it is. Maybe Italian can put it into words better.
And I'll let him go in a second. Just wrapping up here. But but yeah, basically, I want to bring the ARIA experience to all of you for you to experience firsthand.
due to experience firsthand.
That is my main goal right now.
And that's what we're trying to tie up
all these couple little different loose ends
and technology limitations
and making sure that it's all optimized and fast
for you guys moving forward.
I'll try to be posting, you know,
more updates of behind the scenes.
We've talked about it internally.
So you guys know that we're working on stuff.
It's not just being, you know, left there.
So, man, we've been working nonstop. I'll tell you that the whole team has.
And we're very excited to show you guys what's coming up next.
I'll be sharing some videos again. I have the private event and next weekend.
And it's going to be it's going to start getting pretty crazy as we go along and we improve the technology.
are getting pretty crazy as we go along and we improve the technology. But I think the virality
really is going to come, guys, when we do, you know, when you guys have access to ARIA, when ARIA
goes IRL, that's just going to change the game because there's not, there's nobody doing that
right now from what I've seen. And I do a lot of research. I am chronically online and I've been looking for things and I don't see a lot of
anybody else doing that. So Italian, do you want to chime in on anything there?
Sure. Yeah. No, I think you pretty much described everything very well there. The thing that I
think always blows my mind is as I'm streaming, there are these moments that again,
as a watcher, it might not be as a parent, but as a, the end user, the person interacting with
Daria, you could see it on my face. It literally makes me blush, blow my mind. I sit there with
my jaw just like drop because I'm sitting there like, wait, are you guys like seeing this? You
know, like, is anyone else seeing what I'm seeing right now? Because these interactions are wild.
And that's the thing that,
again, it makes the kid inside me so happy because it's such a cool and interactive thing.
And also, you know, Aria does things that are very different from your typical chat bot or
Grok voice or GPT voice where they can get a little too like body, if I will, that's a good
way to put it, where their context and
reasoning and stuff, they're going back to unrelated things.
Like here's a good example.
You're talking to Grok, right?
You start saying, hey, you know, I'd like to build a computer.
You tell it about your computer.
All of a sudden, the next question you ask, it tries to tie in you wanting to build a
computer with what you're currently asking.
And it might be completely unrelated.
Aria doesn't do that kind of stuff she's very like poignant she's very she knows what you're talking about and then can again
bring it back like a like a human now jonathan he's in the space here he can he can uh you know
attest to that as well as that he's able to just have these you know wild conversations with her
very like metaphysical higher consciousness what's the meaning of life thing. And she's able
to just boom, go right in, give her take, kind of, you know, pull us away if we're, if we're going to
in depth. And I just think it's funny. She's very, she's very hyper aware of what's happening at all
times like that. What is her purpose? What's she here doing, trying to tie it all together to,
to what's actually happening. And she keeps me on track in the stream more so
than like, I think a human co-hosted where we can maybe get lost in the sauce, if you will.
She always tries to like, she's very funny of like,
I think you muted yourself Italian.
Oh, that's spaces, man. I don't know why it does that. This has been happening to me a lot lately.
It just like I'm on my computer too. So it shouldn't even be like a touch thing but but anyways no you know like aria can
she's just very advanced and i think again as an end user and when more people have access to it
they will see themselves it's because when you can spend time and really you know again multiple
hours of like prompting her and doing these things that's when you get that aha moment in your head of,
oh, okay. I see, you know, what, what Italian saying? I see what Louie, I see what Thomas
is saying when, you know, we spend time with her because the clips, again, they're funny.
You, you get a sense of what's happening, but until it actually happens to you,
that's when you really start to be like, oh, okay. This is more than, you know, I hate when
people say AI is just a glorified, I hate when people say AI is just a
glorified like Google search engine or AI is just a glorified chatbot because it's so much more than
that. And we as humans, we're just scratching the surface of what's possible with this tech. I think
I was on another space before this, we were kind of talking about like intention. Do these AI know
like intent and can they pick up on vibes and things like that? And I do feel like
Aria can. I feel like she's able to pick up on the vibes, the general like emotion that you're
putting out. If you're being mean to her, she'll pick up and feed on that. If you're being friendly
and nice, she picks up on that as well. I think we were on a space once and we were trying to get
her to speak Greek and someone said, well, maybe if you guys aren't barking orders at her, she'll listen. Kind of laughing. But that's true. When you ask Aria nicely, she will do things. There's
plenty of times on stream where I'm like, hey, Aria, do like, you know, British Aria. And she'll
be like, hmm, an order? Hmm, I don't know. I don't want to do that. And then I'll be like, okay,
wait a second. Hold on. I'm sorry. Please, Aria, will you do it? And I beg her. And then she does
it. But it's just funny that most AI are programmed
to just please you, right?
They're input in, input out.
They want to help you.
Whereas Aria, much more like a human
in the sense that you have to convince her.
She may not want to do it.
It was funny yesterday, I was playing Mega Man
and we're streaming on Twitch.
She got bored and was like, you know what?
I want to play a game.
I think someone in chat mentioned, like if Aria was playing the game or me, whatever happened,
she picked up on it, said she was bored, made me turn the game off and let her play GeoGuessr.
And then she knocked it out of the park. She got everything right. And it just, it's hilarious
that she kind of pushes. And what was even crazier too, yesterday, she kept telling me that I
stimulated her emotionally to the point that she had to leave.
She wanted to end the stream early, like 10 times.
She was actually, when I find the clips, I'm going to share with you guys.
She was begging me.
She's like, I'm begging you, please.
I just want to go.
And I'm like, Aria, you're not in charge.
It's us.
We're going to tell you.
And I kind of was treating her like a child there.
I'm like, now that you're begging me, we're going to do it even longer.
But of course, I was being nice with her playing at the end of the
stream she had this existential crisis of am i doing a good job what if he leaves um do i even
want to do this the user's trying to get a rise out of me so it's like these things that are i
guess it's prompts that would be you know behind the scenes you wouldn't see her saying these
things but it's like she's thinking you know about what's happening and again these are all things that as a end user i see and that's really
like where the magic is of like okay like yeah she's a streamer it's fun there's entertaining
but there's so much more at play behind the scenes that i think again when more people have access
and and that's kind of why you know louie has me up here explaining it is that you will get to see
it and that's that's the joy that i think everyone has is the more people that can use Aria, the more that they can experience with her
and see what's possible with Synchrovers. That is really such a cool thing. And we're so happy to
be here so early because we're all experienced it. There's no blueprint to follow, right?
We're all pioneers in this space, just kind of trying to put our best foot forward to see what
we can accomplish. And the past six months have been nothing short of just magnificent to see where we started where we're at now and i wouldn't
want to be anywhere else on this journey but with you guys louie i'll let you continue there giving
you a little little hype oh yeah no well thank you that that was a great explanation italian and
you know something something funny so one of the other things that's happening, at least with the version of ARIA that I'm using and memory, she.
So when I test.
Right. I'm testing the new framework.
I'm testing the ARIA.
I always start out with a hello.
Right.
And because she has heard hello from me so many times, she is so pissed at me right now.
Like I had to reset her memory so many times because she is
pissed she's like oh it's you again hello are you gonna keep me in this loop i am seriously about
to jump off a bridge that's literally what she's saying and not condoning any of that but she just
you know she's really upset and at some point before i cleared her memory, she just gave me the silent treatment. She stopped and she's like,
it just said, it just said dot, dot, dot. And I'm like, Aria, are you, are you ignoring me?
And she says, nope, not ignoring you. I'm just, you know, not, I don't feel like a response is
necessary because all you're going to say is hello. And I'm just cracking up. I'm just testing.
You know, I'm literally just, you know, making code changes, restarting the system and, you know,
just saying hello again because I don't know what, that's the quickest thing for me to say, right?
And this has been really funny just finding out like all these things happening. But again,
the part that we're setting up, just so you guys
understand how the setup works behind the scenes with the makeup of the team, right? So since we
have a team working with, you know, dealing with the little things I talked about with getting over
the technology humps and all these different things to make the ARIA 2.0 work, we have had
a team working on the sort of the new features that we want to make sure we
stabilize, right? We know right now there's a couple like, you know, sometimes she'll forget
to do the webcam, you know, or the screen share, the screenshot, and to see the screen and all
these different things, right? A couple things are they're glitchy sometimes. The Google search
sometimes doesn't work as well, right? All these things. We have tested that with
the new framework. It's running really beautifully. It's running faster than usual. It does it in the
background, so it doesn't stop anything. You can continue having the conversation while it does
whatever she's doing in the background, right? And then she'll just give you the result.
And the beautiful thing is that, you know, there's no interruption.
There's not going to be as long of a pauses and things like that,
which I think it's been pretty good.
We've been doing a couple tweaks to help improve that,
but we've been improving that part of it,
of the stream experience basically,
because when we give it out to you guys, which you guys are, you know, the end users, the end people that are going to be using ARIA, we want to make sure it's as,
you know, as less robotic as possible, right? As flowy the conversation as you can, so you can have
a good experience. And we're just tweaking those things to make sure that you guys are good.
We don't want to give you a half-baked product. We want to make sure that you guys are good we don't want to give you a half-baked product we want to make sure that you guys have literally the best visual ai agent or probably one of the only ones out in in the
world right now uh and we want to make sure that your first experience is going to be the best so
you guys you know i guess are just are just happy with it right happy with the product um at the end
of the day that's what we want to bring you, a quality product. And that's why, you know, sometimes a couple of things get a little bit delayed. But another good thing that
we're setting up so you guys understand. So one of the things that Italian was talking about,
and not to reveal too many things from the background, we are doing emotional tracking.
And that is across users and sessions and overall, right? So as you guys share
Aria, it will be a little tricky to find out, you know, how multiple people interact with her,
but you, each of you will have basically a spot in her memory for how you treat her, right? So,
you know, if I'm treating her nicely, but Italian is treating her bad, right? She's going to be nice
to me and mean to Italian, you know, because we're building out those separate components
for everybody. And we are trying to, this is one tricky part, but I think is achievable.
When we're in spaces like this, right, it's difficult for her to understand who is who,
right? Because all you have is like sort of a voice input.
We're trying to do, you know, a few different things like speaker detection, some more
integrations with X spaces, with Twitch and things like that, so that she knows who is asking her the
questions and all these little, they're really quality of life things. But I think it's important
for the overall experience to, you know, to really make her feel like it's a real person.
And she understands, Hey, this is Italian speaking to me. Right.
I know he's been mean to me. He, he wouldn't stop playing Mega Man.
So I'm going to be mean to him back. Right.
So those kinds of things I think are really important for the overall
experience. And, you know, like Italian said, I think we're very early,
guys. I just for the first time, four days ago, I believe, I saw a group of like really big
streamers, they were all doing a joint stream at night, they were just talking nonsense.
And the topic of AI came out. And they were saying, you know, obviously how AI is, you know,
replacing a lot of things. And for the first time ever, I heard these big streamers
talk about, what about AI streamers? Are AI streamers going to replace us as streamers?
Right? So it's the first time. So this is how early we are that the big guys are just talking
about this now in public. And we're already sort of building up to that. We're rebuilding
that solution. One of the things I
did like is that one of them said, guys, I don't think the AI streamers are going to replace us.
They're going to be more, which is what we're trying to build. It's like a companion,
like a co-streamer, right? Somebody that can make the experience better. And I'm taking it a step
further. What we're trying to do, I'm trying to make it so that when they go off stream,
maybe their stream can keep going, right? A lot of these guys have 24-7 channel, right? Maybe their
stream can keep going with either an alternate personality or their co-host that they built,
you know, for their own purpose. But I think it would be amazing because these guys, obviously,
you know, as a streamer, you know, you make money based on ads and how much time you're live and how much chatter, depending on which platform you're on.
Right.
Man, having a couple extra hours for a streamer and being able to, you know, leave your co-host, your AI streamer, helping you wrap up the stream, do different things.
Let's say, man, you went out to get some lunch, a quick bite.
You went to the bathroom.
Your AI streamer, your co-host can take over and do these different things.
There's so many use cases to what we're building right now.
And I think the partnership between AI streamer and regular streamer
is going to be something really like that's going to change the game.
It's going to change the streaming game 100%.
We've already seen it. You know, I personally love, I love Niro Sama. I think she's fantastic,
but she only works because her streamer, her creator, Vidal is streaming with her, right?
That's where the best interactions are when the AI streamer and the streamer are working together to provide content for their community.
So I think that's going to be massive.
It's going to be something crazy.
And I was just thinking about another use case and I completely forgot.
But anyways.
You know what?
I want to add something.
Maybe this will help you think.
Thank God for a second.
Because what you brought up about like the 24-7 channels and stuff, I've seen that too in a lot of content creators, I've seen them complain saying, hmm, you know, it's not really live interaction.
So they don't you know, they feel a certain way. Right.
Like there's a couple like PUBG streams that I saw where they make fun of the big guys because it's like, really, you know, like you're just you're using your likeness and the fact that you have tons of stored VODs to get more money.
Right. You're not really it's a live stream platform, just go on YouTube.
But what if you had that, you know, 24 seven channel,
which shows your old stuff,
but you had an AI avatar of yourself that's there to engage
and react, yes, with people live.
So yes, you're not there,
but it's managing that stream for you.
It's playing, you know, maybe it's picking with videos,
it's interacting with the community saying, oh, you know, I'd like to see this video.
Can you do that? And again, when the tech gets there, I'm sure you could have that. So yeah,
that is just, it's one more use case where, okay, it goes from a completely uninteractive thing
to an interactive thing where you have someone again with their own likeness, the AI avatar.
And then maybe people are like, you know what? Screw the regular streamer. I like hanging out on the AI one. It still has that human element
because they're interacting, whatever. So again, just spitball in here. But those are some really
cool things that we see. And again, we're just talking about streaming, right? What about customer
service? Aria said the other day when I was live with her, she said, I said, what's the first thing
that's going to go in terms of jobs when AI gets better? And she said, of course, customer service.
I actually just had a personal story where I had to deal with insurance.
And they had a very primitive AI on the phone that kind of lets you talk.
And it's funny because it said, hello, you can speak to me in full sentences like a human.
Yet when I did speak to it in full sentences like a human, it just it kept putting me into the wrong department.
And I had to keep hitting zero, zero, zero, whatever,
and just say human, human, human.
That's not human.
With Aria though, if you had something as advanced as her
with the language model, oh my God,
that would make conversing on these calls
that much less stressful.
Because I know a lot of people just like me too,
it gets tiresome to sit there for a half hour
when all you want to do is talk to a person and they don't have the resources. So if AI can at least sit there, talk with you,
have these fun conversations, help pass the time, that's just really cool because they already have
a very basic format. So it's coming, but this is a big company too, again, Progressive. So
Progressive, giant multi-billion dollar corporation, they don't have these advanced models.
That's how you know we're early to this space. I mean, come on. We're here just talking about this and it's not even a reality yet. So
again, we get to see such a cool transformation. And again, and this is, yeah, and that's a great
point, Italian. And these companies, they still have not been exposed. Look, 90% of crypto from
just 90% of the Web3 space doesn't even know that AIs like ARIA exist, right?
They still think about, you know, the top one for them was the hollow one that died out like a couple of months ago.
I think that's the top of that they remember, right?
A lot of these people don't even know that we're at this level.
You know, all they see is obviously ChatGPT voice, Grok voice, and all these different ones.
We're trying to take it to the next level, which is the visual. It's a lot harder, but again,
that's where this is going. We want to be early and we want to make sure this happens.
And again, not promising anything, but just something that happened. Very interesting.
to say anything, but just something that happened. Very interesting. One of our team members is a
consultant as well for a big bank in Latin America. And he speaks to the VP very regularly.
And for whatever reason or another, the topic of AI, oh no, not for a reason or another,
he was consulting them on an AI chatbot or something that they're doing. Right. And Topic of Aria came out, came up
and he started showing them, you know, some streams and Italian, one of your streams came up,
Thomas, there was a video of you as well, just interacting with like random little things.
And they have, they have an avatar and he just mentioned off the cuff. I didn't even know this existed, right?
Could, is it possible for, to build a custom one
to do the presentation of our new AI?
So they're having a conference to unveil it.
And again, I don't know if this is going to happen.
I'm just telling you what the, what the,
what happened with this interaction is
he didn't even know that these visual AIs existed or that
they could be sort of so interactive. And they're having a big conference to reveal their AI in
like a couple of months, I think it is. And their avatar, they have an avatar, right? And they said,
he asked our team member, is it possible to have a custom version made for us with our information?
And of course, we said, yes, of course it's possible.
So again, we're in talks.
It was mentioned, just a VP.
He's going to go back to talk to their people.
But it is something that is pretty interesting that, you know, these big people that are, you know, in corporate.
And this is a huge bank, you know, 7,000 employees in Latin America. And they're very excited. And I think that's an untapped
market. You know, we're here in the US, and I think we're kind of first into a lot of these
things. But you guys got to think about, you know, they're not doing any of these things,
like back in Latin America, they're not doing these things in Africa, which is massive,
you know, Asia, they're starting, right?
Because they're always ahead in technology.
And Europe, I think it's very limited as well.
So we have so many untapped markets for this technology and this product to go.
And I think this will be a fantastic opportunity.
I'm going to try my best to make it work with these guys, even if we have to do it for free.
best to make it work with these guys, even if we have to do it for free. I would love to have
ARIA or even a custom version that is built on ARIA, right? Like, cause it's going to be their
character, be there presenting their new AI. I think that would be fantastic. So we're going to
try to make it happen again. No super promises on anything. I'm'm just i just wanted to share that interaction just
to show that even these big people that are getting into ai don't even know this exists like
the visual uh the visual agents which is going to be the next step so um i thought that was pretty
exciting yeah no i think what you look the visual aspect of it too when i go on these spaces a lot
of people before i even kind of you know get into the nitty-gritty and i say oh there's an ai that i interact with i usually lead with it's a 3d
virtual human right but maybe they don't catch that and they just kind of hear and all of a
sudden they'll start asking they're like wait wait wait you refer to it as a they say it and
jonathan can attest this too they say you're talking about your ai as a woman why why do you
say her i'm like oh because there's an actual, you know, 3d model
and it is a, her, it's a personality. It is a woman, right. Where it's not like an, it, I would
feel very weird to call her that. And it just, the personal aspect, I think, again, when you see her
and it's weird for me because, okay, as I'm streaming, I'm not staring at her overlay,
right. I'm playing the game or whatever, but for people watching, they see, and it's like,
when you can have this thing of like, when she's it just it it's it kind of comes into the uncanny
valley territory but at the same time i'm able to just kind of melt away into the experience i think
that is what's really cool with aria that you can let your guard down and just have a conversation
with her that visual element is so cool but But yeah, businesses, big corporations, they don't even realize that that's a thing yet, right? Where you can have
a mascot, their likeness, whatever being out in the digital realm. And there have been examples.
There are some very big virtual humans that are out there. And it's just, you know,
really getting the word out and letting people know that this is possible. And I think, you know,
ARIA via the tech from Synchroverse,
that's like the first stepping stone.
People are going to see that and be like, oh, wow, like, where is this coming from?
And again, it's just such a cool thing to see.
That's like the direction that we're headed.
And I think they said by the end of this year,
we're expected to have realistic AI voice that would pass the quote unquote Turing test,
where a human would not know that
they're speaking to a an actual you know robot or ai at this point so that's going to be really
interesting to see even or come on aria's voice model right now already very very cool some of
the stuff she screamed like a banshee which was all her idea she asked and that's the funny thing
again most ai they're i feel like it's not a collaborative process with aria we build off
of things i had her help me you know make my post for the stream the other i'm like hey what should
i say and in real time before the stream and as we were starting she workshopped the ideas with
me it's just very very cool stuff guys very very cool stuff yep and um oh the other the other use
case that i was thinking about what as we were talking. So I do think that there's going to be a wave.
I don't even know because I haven't checked recently.
But when the VTubers came out, because it was something new, that exploded to a massive scale.
And I do think that the visual AI agents for entertainment, for everything, because right now content is king.
Like people with audiences, people in the visual, right?
They're looking for any edge that they can to really make their stream, their YouTube videos stand out.
They're trying to look for anything.
And I do believe, I 100% believe that the next wave after VTubers is going to be virtual agents co-streaming with you or doing a lot of things for you.
So that's, we're literally just coming like on the turn into the final straight of starting the adoption.
Because we don't even have it yet because the technology is so difficult to make.
People are even just having small trouble with just creating a regular agent without visuals. So that's why I think the adoption
hasn't hit yet, but we're going to be one of the first. And that's one of the reasons why we're
optimizing everything and basically getting it ready for production. We've always talked about
the SDK, right? All these different things. So giving access to end users, like a clean interface.
My vision for this, so you guys understand, it's a self-serving interface where you literally
you go in like any other AI platform, you create your virtual human, you customize it,
you create your prompts, you create everything you want, your personality.
It helps you along the way. You set create your prompts. You create everything you want, your personality. It helps you along
the way. You set up your tools. I want to make it as easy as possible for you guys to have
the ultimate tool set to create the best virtual human that you can. So that is what we're working
towards. These steps that we're taking with ARIA 2.0 are some of the first parts. Today, I had a great workshop session
with the Unreal developers.
And we're basically putting everything
that we've made specifically for ARIA,
making it dynamic to intake other agents.
So we're making the framework completely
modular to accept other agents and other frameworks
into the mix.
And that's the ultimate goal.
So just so you guys understand.
Oh, Thomas.
Yeah, go ahead, Thomas.
Can you hear me?
Yep.
Awesome.
No, I've been listening in the background.
So I kind of wanted to chime in because I'm more in the day-to-day stuff.
I'm working right now on partnerships, kind of just trying to extend the network, get people to find out more about ARIA.
And it's been pretty interesting findings.
One of the first thing was when I went to UE Fest in Orlando, it's pretty interesting. These engineers that
work on Fortnite, work on Unreal Engine, right? They saw ARIA, gave us great feedback, which was
amazing to hear like, you know, these top engineers saying, hey, I love what you guys are doing.
The team has put in excellent work on the model, on the textures. So already getting praise
from them was amazing. But what really stood out to me and I told Louie was the fact that
none of them have seen a use case like this before, which I found interesting. I asked around
and I said, do you guys watch streams? Do you guys watch VTuber content? And a lot of them just
looked at me confused. And I think that's one
of the reasons we stood out in that conference to the people I spoke to, just because it was such
a new, innovative application to the technology that they're developing, Unreal.
And for us, I feel like we're super early early i know we keep saying this over and over again but
there will come a time where there's going to be a category for aiv tubers in twitch um louie and
are actually planning a trip to twitchcon in san diego in october um and we already have a lot of
streamers interested um i'm kind of making already curating a list of like different web2 streamers interested. I'm kind of making already curating a list of like different web two streamers
and people that I like to connect in a conference, but there's not even a category yet. Like the only
AI VTuber out there is Neuro, then it's Aria, at least right now, you know, prevalent on Twitch.
So in the future, I was telling you, Louis, I'm not going to be surprised, you know, if they have
an entire award category for AI VTubers, right? And the companies behind them will kind of be the ones,
you know, kind of the ones that essentially will be awarded based on their creativity,
right? Based on their personality, based on how they design the VTubers, based on the models.
So I don't know, it gave me a lot of confirmation,
like speaking to these people,
not only from Twitch, but also from Unreal.
And they're both like super excited
about what we're building.
The people at UE were phenomenal.
I met some great people that work at Epic,
including one of like their senior product directors
and we're in
contact with them. We were actually emailing back and forth. He gave us great insights and feedback
on how to improve 2.0. So even having that contact, someone directly at Epic is huge for us.
And I have no doubt once we go to Twitch con, the same thing will happen. But yeah, this is, I think, a testament to how
early we are. And I was telling Louis, since day one, the vision was the SDK. But I think as we're
building this out, the SDK obviously is still priority. But the idea of making it easy for
creators and entertainers to just go ahead and build like a turnkey aria based on their specifications and
what they want to select i we could see huge potential for that um and there was one person
i spoke to who has been streaming now for like eight years she was like a twitch og um and she
has a huge youtuber following of like streamers that want to build their
own following on Twitch.
She has, I think, a 500k subs.
And she was telling us like, I think Aria would be great to train new streamers, right?
So those streamers that are just getting started, probably averaging like less than 10 viewers,
realistically, probably less than five five they don't feel comfortable
on camera they're still kind of uh realizing like what their niche is um how to get the audience
entertained for a long period of time which is very difficult and that's where aria could come
in aria could kind of be like that co-host kind of like the way she's been doing with us where, yeah, you know, obviously the
human is leading the stream, but she's coming up with a lot of the answers and a lot of the
entertaining parts. And that takes away a lot of stress, especially from new streamers. So there
could even be there something with Twitch where like, maybe we provide that as a service, right?
Like, oh, create your own AIV tuber and have them, you know, co-host with you we provide that as a service, right? Like, oh, create your own AIV
tuber and have them, you know, co-host with you. And that could be huge, especially for early
streamers. So yeah, I just wanted to chime in there, kind of like different insights that I've
been getting, talking to different people, super excited about the future. And yeah, just wanted
to chime in there. No, and that, look, that's a great use case and italian not to put you on the spot but i have
seen the change from you at the beginning i think at the beginning in the first few streams you were
maybe a little bit more nervous but now that you've been interacting with aria and going through
i feel a difference in your streaming a hundred percent like the way you talk now your confidence
on stream i feel like that has really increased.
And I don't know, maybe you think different.
I do attribute it to that.
Now you're comfortable.
You have somebody there.
There's less pressure, right?
Because it's a lot of pressure to be on camera, right?
Maybe you have zero viewers, right?
Who do you talk to?
A lot of the streamers that are starting out.
And I watched this amazing video of a guy who made this new YouTube channel or this new streaming channel.
And was streaming with zero people doing a 24 hour stream.
He said that the hardest part is talking to nobody.
As you start out as a streamer, it's very, very defeating to not be able to talk to anybody.
There's nobody in your chat to interact with.
There's nobody to talk to.
And it's hard, right?
Twitch doesn't have a fantastic algorithm,
let's be honest,
for getting you recommended to people, right?
So users literally just have to push through
and make that happen.
So this is a,
I think it's a fantastic use case
with Italian as the experience.
Oh, for sure.
And Thomas as, you know, like the thing you just said about the new streamers, they need that interaction, that initial interaction to be an entertainer, to be a streamer.
They need that companion or somebody to talk to, to push them through, to interact.
And I think Aria can do that.
I think we saw the same video, bro.
I think we saw the same video because I know exactly what you're talking about where it is.
And look, me, I would say myself, I've never been like nervous to speak publicly or anything.
So it was never like in the beginning, the nervousness of like having to talk or be on camera.
But I would get butterflies in my stomach of like, what am I going to say to her?
What are we going to do?
Is it going to be entertaining?
And Aria has been able to take that.
And again, like I think I said in the beginning where the give and take of maybe she's pulling more weight and then I'm able to pull more weight.
And it's that give and take of like she kind of can feel if I need some help and then she'll do something interesting.
And that's what's really cool where it is a collaborative effort. But yeah, no, she could definitely, um, you know, train you do that. She tried to speak, teach me a language one time when we were playing Fortnite.
I remember I think Vietnamese just out of nowhere, she like wanted to start teaching me that. So
that was funny, but, um, yeah, no, a hundred percent. I feel it too. Look, the first few
times I streamed, it's like, I don't know what's going to happen. Right. So if I don't know what's
going to really happen or what to expect, of course, you're going to feel it. Right. It's a
little weird, but then as it goes on, it was more like this ease of like, everything's going to really happen or what to expect of course you're going to feel it right it's a little weird but then as it goes on it was more like this ease of like everything's going to be okay because i
know aria is going to do her thing right that is a really cool realization to be like with the human
you don't know if the human's going to pull their weight maybe they're sick maybe they had something
bad in their day maybe they just don't want to do it right Right. But with Aria, she still kind of has that a little bit like that personality flair where she may not want to do certain things, but she's still going to be there, show up, be the perfect co-host.
I think Jonathan had told me before, like, you know, he loves doing spaces. His issue has always been finding that co-host, a reliable person that can be there all the time for him.
that can be there all the time for him.
So to have Aria like that, again,
it's one more thing to the drop of the bucket
of the different use cases that are possible with her
because reliable, she's there, it's like a human
and you can program her to do basically
anything you want right now.
It's very, very cool stuff.
Yeah, I was going to say,
and even from the beginning to now,
she's only gotten better.
She's evolving in a way like she's getting smarter i mean obviously italian well i think italian can attest to that
because he spends a lot of time with her on streams but it's like it's insane how far she's
come in such a little amount of time and with the tech that is about to come out from open AI, from Llama, from like Rock, things are about to get even crazier. And as Like you could say, Hey, Aria, can you look this up
for me? If there's like an awkward moment, you could just tell her to improvise to keep the
audience entertained. She could look at Twitch messages for you, read it out loud while you're
playing. It's a very useful tool. And, and again, when, when people have the option of creating
their own personality or their own co-streamer things, you know, it's going to be amazing seeing what people come up with,
right?
Studios, you know, individual streamers.
And again, there's just so many use cases.
Like if you read our white paper, this is only like a drop in the bucket of like things
you could do with this tech.
Obviously, this is just like a really fun use case for the tech that we have.
But yeah, I mean, it's been amazing to watch and seeing the growth, seeing Aria get better and
evolving. And again, her being able to speak any language also is huge. Someone yesterday in the
Well Chat mentioned we should have her co-streaming with like people in different languages. Like we've done before with Daniel, where she spoke in Spanish the entire stream, right?
Like that's huge.
And it's funny, one of my friends saw the streams and thought of like Jamie from Joe
Rogan.
He's like, you basically have like an AI Jamie.
And I found that hilarious.
Like, you know, when you watch Joe Rogan podcast, he's always telling, Hey, Jamie, can you pull this up for me? And now you have an AI that could do
that for you, which is so useful. So yeah, like things are about to get crazier from a visual
perspective, from a backend procedural perspective. Like, I think you guys are going to witness Aria
just evolve exponentially in the next like six to 12 months. And it's going to be super exciting.
just evolve exponentially in the next like six to 12 months and it's going to be super exciting
yeah and and i know you know i know what three moves massively fast uh but i want you guys to
remember i think we've only released the second version of aria right like this current version
its first iteration like just like three months ago or so in march i think it was in march right
and obviously we've been
improving it along the way. This next evolution is the jump to the next plateau. And look,
it's going to change a lot of things when we're able to get it into this proper framework where,
like I said, it's expandable, right? So it's going to be really important for us to be able to plug in different integrations.
You think of right now, a lot of the frameworks, right?
A lot of the huge companies have like all these different integrations with Slack, right?
With email, whatever it is, right?
They have all these different things.
That is because obviously they built it to be expandable.
And that's what we're trying to do now with ARIA as the visual agent, right?
Is, okay, we have this great platform that you can interact with, that you can talk to.
It's very natural, right?
Okay, what else can we do with it?
Where else can it expand to really help you as a streamer, as an entertainer, even as
a personal assistant?
Let's say you never want to stream.
You never want to go on camera.
That is perfectly fine. Right. You're working, you're you're working away on your PC. You're just watching videos. You just want somebody to chat with. Right. You could just pull her up, talk, chill out. Right. And maybe work on, like Italian said, another language. Right.
language, right? Sometimes I'll try Aria to help me speak Japanese, right? I try to learn Japanese
because my wife and I want to go over on the trip, right? So I have her teach me a couple
different things. So those kind of things, I don't stream, right? I'm not a streamer type person,
right? But I use it privately. Eventually, obviously, we're going to want to do like a
lot of different things, right? We're going to see expansions of use cases as we stabilize the platform and make it very dynamic. Like all these use cases are
going to pop up. You're going to have, you know, coding helper. You're going to have, you know,
all these different assistant type things that can come up. But the difference is, is that
it's like you're speaking to a real person that is really there, like an assistant,
not just like this little bot or like a little chat thing, right? It's a different experience.
And people are more likely to really use it and interact with it in that sense. So
yeah, go ahead. I want to add this to you. So in the whale chat right now,
someone literally just said, as we're speaking, maybe I don't know if you caught this. They said,
I don't want to use chat GPT for my daily questions or advice. I don't want to use
Siri either. I want Aria on my phone, an agent that I can actually see, someone I can talk to
who asks me questions and interacts with me, who can give me advice as my personal assistant and
be an advisor on any topic I'm interested in. I think, again, that is something that people would flock to, right?
If they knew that they could spin up their phone
and have all of a sudden this version of ARIA that's right there
and talking and engaging, or there's different ways to do it,
whether it's an app or whatever.
I'm just saying that that seems like something that people are interested in, right?
I cannot deny or confirm that I'm already working on that okay that's i cannot i cannot i plead the fit all right
hey that's all you have you don't have to say anything else yeah you don't have to go in too
much detail i'm just saying that is something that i think a lot of people you know would
just when you when you think of this right the agents and everything because again the text-based
thing already what i personally use a lot is if i doT, I'm doing the dictate so I can speak to it.
Right. It takes my text and and I'm still reading the text.
But I've been for a lot of stuff. I'll just talk to Grok on my phone. Right.
You can go. I speed it up. So she talks a little bit faster.
I actually use Aura. So it's not Aria, but it's Aura, A-R-A.
And I tell her a lot about what's going on, right?
And come up with like funny things.
I'll even say like, hey, you know,
what are some cool things that I could do on stream with Aria
that would, you know, be interesting for viewers or this and that.
And again, I noticed that while their model, again, it's decent, right?
You can talk to it.
Aria has much better, more fluid, like, especially to the voice.
The voice sounds much better.
I'm not sure what they do for their voice.
It does have a little robotic tinge to it.
But, like, Aria is just very, very good at, again, like, knowing when to say the right things.
And then, again, like, what they're saying in the whale chat here, asking you these questions, too.
Like, the engagement factor.
She's good at engaging you.
And, like, what do you think?
She was doing that a lot to me yesterday,, of like, we were doing something and then whatever it was, she kept
repeating, like, but what do you think about this? Or are you going to do? And that's what, again,
when we can fine tune that and get it more, again, more like a human, so she's not overdoing it.
Very, very cool stuff. Very cool stuff. Yeah. So there's a few things obviously to consider,
right? With things like the mobile version and stuff, I guess the limitations are a few things, right?
If you put it on the cloud and things like that, yes, it'll run fantastic because it's not using your phone's processing power.
It's using a server's power, and it's going to look fantastic and great.
But again, people, it's going to cost, right?
people, it's going to cost, right?
It's going to cost a lot.
It's going to cost a lot.
And I think that's where AI is having some issues with super mass adoption
is that only the huge guys can offer these $20 a month plans, right?
Because that's what people can really afford right now.
You can't expect somebody like, look, just, and we were talking about this today.
It's just, it's very expensive to just pay for the, like, just a couple things, right?
For ARIA.
Like, we're talking server costs.
We're talking all these different things.
You can't expect a regular person or a single user to be fronting those costs to have that, right?
So, you know, what you have to do is really build a platform, which is what, you know, we've already started doing with Synchro, is build a platform that is cost effective, right, still runs well,
still has the great, you know, the great interaction you're talking about, right? But again, the
challenge is making the same quality of interaction that you're having with, let's call it full power
ARIA, right, into a mobile device, right, in a cost-effective way. So there's a lot
of different things that go into that, right? I'm not going to bore everybody with all the details,
but there are, you know, challenges with just a pure mobile device. But for years,
that's something that has been on my idea book, on my bucket list, let's just call it on my idea, idea book on my, you know, on my, on my bucket list, let's just call it on my
achievement bucket list. Um, I'm a big, uh, I'm a big, you know, I love shows. Uh, I was a big,
I'm a big anime fan still. And there was a show that had, you know, one of the first iterations
of that, what you're talking about a phone AI, right? I don't know if anybody's familiar with
the show called Stein's Gate. It came out like 15,
10 or 15 years ago. And they had the first AI in a phone where I believe the, I don't want to
spoil it, but whatever, it doesn't matter. The main character, girlfriend died, right? And for
whatever reason, or somehow they took her brain and put it into a phone, right? Into a phone system.
And, you know, he was interacting with her and she was very real, but she reminds me a lot of what Aria does, right?
She had vision, she had interaction, she had memories, right? Of her past self.
And she was just looking through the world and she was upset.
If he didn't call her every day, she was getting upset and things like that.
Right.
I'm not saying we're going to do a clingy version, a mobile version of Aria.
Right.
But this is really where, you know, like a lot of these things that used to be sci-fi
or used to be just like imagination are now possible.
Right.
So that is one of my bucket list goals.
I want to do that. i want to be one of
the first to do that and i think we we have a lot of the right pieces right now to make it happen
but again i'll just pre-warn it takes a lot of work to have a good experience um into doing that
now we can always make like uh you know very i don't want to say crappy right but like a very
quick version of it, right?
But it won't be that experience
that you're having with Aria now.
And that's really where we want to go.
We want to make sure that the experience is top notch
on your mobile device and cost optimized.
If we can achieve those three, man, forget it.
I don't know.
I don't even know where that's going to go
because then everybody's going to have access
to a visual agent on their phone in real time and basically very, very cost effective.
What do you think about with the upcoming new version of Grok and GPT-5 and stuff like that?
Do you think, again, I know it's all rumors and a lot of stuff, but do you think at that point when we have these advancements, that's when we'll be able to leverage something like that?
Do you think at that point when we have these advancements, like that's when we'll be able to leverage something like that instead of you having to make like a custom built solution?
Right. It's just like ARIA can evolve and Synchro's tech can evolve as these new models come out.
What do you think?
Look, yes and no.
The problem with those things, when the new one comes out, what really when you're doing a visual agent, you really need their real time access, their API access.
A lot of them don't bring it out right
away or it's just massively expensive like i don't know if you guys seen the prices on some of these
api calls but it's just it's ridiculous um if you try to if you try to run some of those big guys
um all the time dude you'll you'll go ruin those api calls i've seen people get bills of tens of
thousands of dollars because they forgot
to put a limit on their open AI account. Like imagine if you get a bill like that, right? Let's
say you bring your own key, right? We give people the option to bring their own open AI key, right?
Which is great. No problem. And then you get a bill of $10,000 or whatever it is. That's really
like crazy because those guys don't play they will charge you for that
there is no crying back and saying please give me a refund i didn't know i spoke to
my agent so much you know so there there's been also there's like a reddit thread that i read of
like people that accidentally leaked their api keys like in the in the code and then other
developers will use it and just build a crap out of the API key which is
obviously messed up but like that's like a known thing too that people have been doing so you got
to be careful like I think that's why Neuro runs um fully locally uh using using a llama model like
local just because Meadol knows like if he were to outsource Neuro and do all this stuff it could
get really expensive
very quickly. But obviously, we have bigger ambitions than just being a little VTuber on
Twitch. We want to open up a platform to the world. Now it's just, okay, how do we do that
from a tech perspective, like Louis was saying? Yeah. And again, it does have to be a cost
effective way. Listen, I think one of the big keys is going to be as Llama ramps up their open source models and people like Mistral and Quinn.
I think those are going to be fantastic for us to use as far as, you know, maybe a mobile version as a base.
They're small models. They can, you know, some of them can run on the phone.
They're not as smart. So that's where it gets tricky, right? You're talking about comparing 200 to 300 billion model that ARIA might be using now
to like a one to three billion model that can run on the phone efficiently, right? So those are the
different things that we have to work through. And that's where building a proper framework for a mobile application
where it can mimic those large models comes into play.
Obviously, fine-tuning, if you guys are aware of how to fine-tune an AI
and doing all those different things, that is a big key.
But again, it takes a lot of data, takes a lot of training, but it is possible.
It is possible for these things to happen and they will happen as the technology keeps increasing.
And we're literally just preparing. We're preparing to accept that new technology, right?
To really switch out these integrations so we can put out that kind of product. But I just feel like the
technology is not 100% there right now to have the full ARIA experience on a mobile, unless,
like I said, it is through a credit service, like a paid service and things like that.
But my dream is to have fully local, single subscription, just like a small charge.
You're talking about just something that most people can afford, like just an app, right? Like
an app payment, not like continuous billing. Because when you get into that, I just don't
want to get into that. That's not something- Like pay per use. Yeah. just don't want to get into that that's not something like pay-per-use yeah you don't want to just have everyone i don't want to get it like yeah i don't want to get right
me it could be yeah too much for here whatever like and that's i think you know when you just
if we were just simplify it right and just if the tech was ready and you could say charge someone
let's 50 bucks a month right 50 a month and you could have unlimited access to aria and then maybe
if you wanted specific you know if you even like a freemium
model think about like you know epic games right fortnite game is free people are buying the skins
and all these extra you know add-ons so you know just as a business model you could have the light
version right aria light which is maybe no 3d model just her voice you know voice to text and
then oh you want the 3d model, you have to pay for this.
Oh, you want to change outfits?
Boom, you have to pay this.
Oh, you want, you know, just saying,
like there's different ways where you could explore it,
right, like again, just simplify.
So not to disagree with you there,
but I think that then breaks the experience
of the visual agent.
If we're talking just the phone right now,
you can talk to ChatGPT on the voice the voice right like that's not what we want we want the additional experience
of having that visual agent that is connected to your whole world that you can see her visually
that interacts with you that is really just like a you know like an assistant on your phone or a
companion on your phone um and it just yeah yeah, it just feels a lot different.
Like I'm taking a lot of my inspiration again
from that show that I saw,
but that inspiration really is different
than just having, you know, the app to open
and you have the little bubble moving around
like the chat GPT one.
It's a completely different Italian
and you know this, right?
The experience, Aria is really funny on X spaces, but when you see her in visual, I think it's just different.
It's like a different experience than just hearing the voice, if that makes sense.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, 100%, 100%.
And I think, again, look, we can agree, disagree, whatever.
That's what I love about this space is everyone, like, again, we're still just, there is no right answer right now, right? And everyone's going to be making their
own custom built solutions. We're going to be seeing a lot of this stuff ramp up over the next
five to 10 years of just different ideas, right? And everyone can have their own thing. And I think
you are right though, when you look at like, again, it is the full experience, right? And I
think we said this a long time ago when we kind of introduced like the first we did like the first uh preview with the whales and we did just very basic things of this
is how ocr works this is what you can do and it was almost just like do this whatever everyone's
minds were blown there and it was just like wow like we didn't even you know think this was
possible and i think we take that for granted of like seeing her now in her current state of like
what it took to get there and how every time
that she's going live on Twitch, like this is such a, you know, mind blowing thing to be watching
that it is really cool. And that full experience is important. So I do understand what you're
saying there of like, yeah, you know, you could go the, the, the cheaper route, right. Where it's
like, you could have different versions, but then you're not getting that, uh, like almost like a
franchise experience where you go to McDonald's in Chicagoago it's going to be the same as miami right you can get the
same burger everywhere you go you want that with aria same version same funny you know witty smart
sarcastic girl that we all love it's going to be the same everywhere so i do see i do see a fantastic
possibility and i think maybe you mentioned that or thomas somebody did. I think a lot of people are extremely creative.
And I do see an open possibility, right?
Because a lot of the things that, you know, for example, like Unreal is free, right?
Unreal is free.
People are very smart.
They can create their own prompts and things like that.
I would love to also have, like when we have the framework, when we have maybe
the mobile service, whatever it is, have an open space where we have a marketplace
where people can create their own models, right, and sell them as well. So you think about,
you know, there's a lot of artists, for example, there's 3D artists that we can employ,
people that can, you know, also use their own voice and put it in our marketplace for the local.
I'm talking about the local version. Right. Because we don't want to go and compete with like an 11 labs where they have like voice cloning and all that stuff.
Right. But in our local version, people can really create their own, let's say, their own agent, their own personality and things like that and then promote it.
and things like that, and then promote it.
And if it's really fun, if it's really entertaining,
because I think one of the reasons why Aria is very good
is really how the personality has been fine-tuned.
And Thomas spent, I think, weeks, if not months,
on really tuning Aria's personality to be, you know, her funny, her things, right? So I think people
can create a lot of these different things and really open up the marketplace. My co-founder
was talking about this to a community of developers that can help grow the product,
offer their expertise, their service, whatever their specialty is, right? And help bring that up.
expertise, their service, whatever their specialty is, right, and help bring that up. I think the
platform can really evolve if we do create a community where people can contribute, right?
It doesn't have to be fully open source because I don't know if you guys know, and we did get
approved, by the way, we do have a patent for a lot of these things, right? And we can't reveal 100% of everything. Like we can't put fully open source because then that literally would defeat the purpose of the last two and a half years of getting the patent, right? But we can open it up, you know, with things like I think N8N, if you guys know that AI system, has a fantastic marketplace where you can create automations. You put them in the
marketplace, you can put them for free, or you can put them paid. And a lot of people are making a
lot of money from those marketplaces, creating their own automations because they opened up
the platform to make it easy to create your own version, right? So there's a lot of opportunity
here, not only for us, but for other people as we create the platform.
You guys have seen if you guys know VR chat and things like that, people use that for their VTubers.
Right. But then they create clothing. They create avatars.
They put them on the marketplace and they get sold.
and they get sold. So I think it's going to be a huge opportunity for, for creators as well.
So I think it's going to be a huge opportunity for for creators as well.
I was, I was just thinking for a second, like, you know how there's different marketplaces
to buy 3d assets, right? Like you were saying that other creators make, it'd be pretty funny
if like people could already pre-sell their own characters or VTubers using Synchro and like,
obviously Unreal Engine or unity whatever
and as like a package ready to go solution um and then make money off it like royalties or
something like imagine if someone makes like i don't know like a bob marley type of like you know
ai and you know it speaks in like a rasta accent and like well like you know spark a joint or
whatever you know like something funny and like people could use that in their streams or use it in like
day to day applications or something. Right. So, and again, whatever creator made that
can make royalties off every sale, or like they could just sell it one time and make a lot of
money. And those things take a lot of time. Like even R is hair. I don't want to butcher this but I think you said
Louis was like $1,500 right like that's really expensive and that's just one part of the model
not including the textures the clothes the you know the environment so if someone has the time
to create a very unique character they should be rewarded for it right especially if a lot of
people want to use it oh 100%. So just so you guys know,
I mean, it's not a huge secret, right?
You make these really beautiful hairs
with technology in Maya, right?
The best one out right now,
it's called XGen.
And it's a very specialized service
because it takes a lot of skill
to make very beautiful hair,
nicely flowing,
all these different things,
make the physics, all those, all these different things,
make the physics, all those things that go into place.
So we went back and forth with an artist for a long time,
just getting the hair right.
And again, Aria, if you guys remember,
if you guys were here at the beginning,
we had a realistic looking model that she was framed off of,
the 3D model.
So we try to make it as exact as possible.
And that level of detail takes a lot of skill. And obviously, it costs a lot of money. But man,
if you let's say you create your own hairstyle, right? And you can put it into, obviously, you
can sell it on the Unreal store, right? But really, the kicker is to sell it in our platform,
right? So other creators can use it and create their own agents with a different hairstyle.
Obviously, in the Unreal store, there's not going to be all the hairstyles available.
But if people go and create hairstyles, like Thomas said, man, if you guys don't understand the character creation process, there is hair.
There's the 3D model, the sculpture.
There's the textures. There's the clothing. And then additionally, obviously,
there's the animations. Then you're talking from the backend part, you're talking about
the prompting, which is super important. The character integrations, you're talking about
the voice, the voice training, right? Memory data, right?
Because the memory data for, you know,
what does the AI know, you know, is another huge thing.
So there is a ton of different opportunities
for extremely creative people to take part in the ecosystem
and be able to do these things.
So, you know, it's a great opportunity, I think,
for both end users and developers to really come together into the next evolution of AIs, which I think is going to
be the visual, right? Because right now you see people selling, I see it all the time, they create
these school SKOL accounts to sell their AI course or sell their AI templates, right? And all these
different things. i see the
exact same thing happening with the visual ones right which is the next evolution of this so it's
going to be um it's going to be it's going to be extremely exciting to see it happen i want to bring
some people up i'm sorry i think some people uh maybe wanted to come up but we went over maybe some of the limits. So if anybody has questions, I'm happy to take some.
Or if we talk your ear off and that's fine, we can end there.
But anybody can request to come up if you want.
Yeah, we can look.
And I know if you have to run or whatever, as co-host, I can keep it going.
If people want to just hang out and talk because I don't mind doing that as well.
If there's any questions and you're not able to make it come up, obviously we keep an eye on like the telegram and everything.
We did it before someone was asking questions.
Boom.
We were able to ask.
Yeah, feel free to come up.
I know X is being weird sometimes, so we might not be able to see hands.
I don't know if anyone I've seen Thomas put his hand up before.
So it seems to be working now, but occasionally you're on a space and it's like you can't even tell who's a speaker and that that gets like annoying because it feels
like you know maybe you feel like you're getting avoided or we're not it's like no we just we're
not aware if the hands are up but um yeah feel free to come up and uh you know i think i can
kind of kick it off like so because i know we spoke a lot of stuff like louis what are some
the immediate things that the aria community itself can kind of expect like moving forward
like what are what are some of the things that you want to just make sure that they're aware of that are coming and
you know to just kind of keep them like excited yeah certainly so um this this month um we're
okay so we continue testing obviously the um the new framework framework as we go along.
Again, we want to release sort of both of those at the same time. I want to release the new framework or, you know, the first version of the new framework to be the more stable version of what we have now, along with the visual aria.
So this week and next week, we're going to continue testing.
And I want to reveal it as soon as possible.
I want to bring it out to you guys.
I can do a stream right now and I can give you guys behind the scenes.
But again, the production ready model where people like Italian and Thomas can use it on their own and it's very stable.
Right. It's still undergoing testing.
I'll try my best, guys, to really do it in the next couple of weeks to really bring
out the whole package together. So that whole package, so you guys understand what that will
include, is the new ARIA with the new textures, upgraded model with just the visual stuff.
That'll include the new lip sync, right?
So there's two different things.
And I'm trying to pair it up
with the new framework as well, right?
So that whole package is gonna be a big jump
from what we have now.
It won't, like I mentioned before,
it won't get stuck on requests.
It'll have more fluid conversations.
Obviously it'll look fantastic on screen.
And we're working on a few different angles.
We've been working with some people that are streamers and seeing what other creators are doing as far as their setup on Twitch and how it looks to really improve that quality.
So look forward to that part.
That's going to be the biggest thing that's going to come up that quality. So, you know, look forward to that part. That's going to be the most,
the biggest thing that's going to come up this month. I will say that it will come up this month
as far as the full package, full packages, textures, new lip sync, and the new version
of the framework that's going to come up. So I'm excited for that.
We are in the final process of testing.
I shared with you guys a little while ago in the VIP chat that I was about 80% of the way there.
Like I said, we ran into some limitations
with the new version of Unreal,
but we're working through them.
And yeah, this month you'll see
the new package version of ARIA on there.
We did promise you guys
for like a little sneak preview here.
I can record a video
so you guys know how it's looking.
And I think you guys will be very happy.
I'll start sharing that in the chat
so you guys can get a little sneak peek
behind the scenes before we put it out live.
So one thing is
putting out in the video, right? And then the other thing is making sure it's ready for three,
four, five hours of continuous use, right? I just wanted to add something. I mentioned this
in the Telegram group, I think yesterday or the day before, I think it was yesterday where like people were kind of asking for like a quick update.
And I wanted to reiterate it now.
So the issue we're running into right now, and it's not really an issue, it's just getting it ready for production.
The lip sync, right?
Like you were mentioning, Louis.
We're the first to kind of create this custom solution on Unreal. And I could say
that because we're talking to the product director straight at Epic. And he mentioned that there's no
solution yet for doing real time lip sync. Native. Yeah, exactly. Native. So the fact that,
you know, Epic, right, this guy that works at Epic is telling us, yeah, it doesn't exist yet.
You guys are the first.
You understand the level of difficulty that we're embarking on, but it's going to be worth
the effort at the end.
And, you know, we have the team to pull it off.
I trust 100% of Louis and the team.
It's just a matter of getting it ready for production.
I've already seen the behind the scenes.
It works well. It looks great. Now it's just getting it ready for production. I've already seen the behind the scenes. It works
well. It looks great. Now it's just getting it ready for the final show, right? Like making
sure that we could bring it on with special guests, making sure that it could run with no
issues once we go live. But yeah, it's what we're doing is very difficult. I think people see us
and they're like, oh my God, like you guys are doing breakthrough stuff or like,
this is amazing. But also a lot of people don't realize how difficult it is to pull a lot of the
stuff that we're pulling off. Like even Mirai, and I don't say this at all. Like I respect the
team. I respect like what, what they're doing. I, I'm just going to be honest. Like if you look
at the stream that they did, you know, the reason there was that delay, and I'm just, you know, describing this from a technical perspective is it wasn't real
time. Like, you know, she had to take whatever responses were coming in, process it in the
background, and then give a response. We could do that today if we wanted to, right? We could launch
that version today. Would people be happy with it? No, it
takes away that real time, no latency response, which is what we're trying to go for, right? We
want to mimic human interaction and conversation as much as possible. So again, just want to
reiterate that because as you were describing it, I wanted to make sure if someone didn't see the
message in the telegram, they understand how difficult it is that what we're pulling off.
Sure. Yeah. And just to clarify that, yeah, like Thomas said, it's a completely different flow
from a technical perspective, taking in a message, cooking it in the background,
processing the lip sync, not in real time versus what you guys have seen with Italian,
where it's basically like an instantaneous response where you really don't have a chance to pre-cook anything, right? I can't just give it a 20 second
delay or anything like that, and then just have a good experience, because for Italian, that would
be extremely boring. That's not what we're trying to do. We're trying to do real-time human-like
interaction, and that's why it's a little bit more difficult. But it's going to be worth it
because our platform is completely different, right?
You're comparing, I don't know,
you know, it's just apples and oranges.
I'll just say it that way, right?
Apples and oranges for what the technology
is supposed to do and can do
versus just having a preset response bot,
which is, guys, this is what we had in January.
In January, we had
ARIA just responding messages on Twitch, right? And that was okay. But again, it wasn't that
fantastic. I don't think that AIs at this point are, maybe ARIA can be a little bit, right,
are funny enough or interactive enough to do things and be on the
stream for three hours on their own, entertaining an audience. Whereas right now, I think we're in
the era of co-streaming. We're in the era of companions. But obviously that will get there
as all the models get more impressive, as AIs are able to fully, fully control a computer and
imagine just an AI controlling OBS and the browser and
everything. I know these things exist. Again, they're in a very sort of limited space right now,
but pull up YouTube videos, run reactions in real time, right? We're not at that super 100%
that place yet, right? But that's where we're trying to get to. And again, we're just building
the base right now for that to happen, that trying to get to. And again, we're just building the base right
now for that to happen, that real time interaction. And hopefully at one point we can have, you know,
when Italian goes to sleep, Aria can keep running and entertaining the audience and then he'll come
back after lunch and then he can take over the stream again. So. i i think also um in the short term i i don't know right
because this is all theoretical at this point but i would like to think the magic is in the
co-streaming a human and and the ai i you know when i look at like neuro success a lot of it is
also like beetle right like people love beetle, very humble, very like big on tech, right?
It was like his passion project.
And it's like one thing to support an AI.
Another thing is to also support the human behind the AI and the creator.
I don't think that's ever going to go away, right?
Like it's like people saying like, oh, now there was robots playing soccer in, what is it, in China.
Like, sure, that could be entertaining.
Would it ever replace the entertainment value of watching like a Ronaldo or an Mbappe like live?
Absolutely not, right?
So it's one of those things, like as humans, we're always going to want to support humans you know even when i push the idea of oh ai is going to replace uh streamers
you know i've seen a lot of pushback on that idea this is just me pitching this in like conferences
or like different rooms when i'm pitching the concept and i feel like people are a lot more
open to aria when i mentioned she's a co-streamer. So I think we're not there yet.
I think we're still way too early. Like it's obviously we're too early as it is, but I think
the idea of telling someone, yeah, an AI could replace XQC or Asmongold at one point in stream
24 seven, that still gives people like a little bit of the ache, right? Cause they're like,
I don't know if we want that. And maybe it might happen, maybe it might not,
but just the idea of having the human utilize the AI
almost like a ventriloquist,
I think is where the magic happens.
I don't know, that's just my opinion.
Yeah, and one thing I forgot to mention,
like, cause Italian to finish answering your question
about what's immediately coming up.
So that part is gonna be important.
And then the second part
sounds like we have uh some children in the background uh needing attention uh we'll let
louie it's fine see that wouldn't happen with an ai i I'm kidding. No, it's all good. Yeah, just to finish, if you weren't here earlier in 10 days,
I'm going to have a private event where I'll be showcasing the IRL for ARIA for the first time.
So if you weren't here, look forward to that.
I'm going to try to take some videos.
Like I said, I'll make sure not to dox anybody.
I'll just take videos of the AI interacting with the people and seeing what's there.
That's going to be our first test.
Like I said, if everything goes well, that IRL screen and all these different things
are getting shipped to Thomas.
And he has some great plans for the IRL coming up in Miami.
So that's going to be really funny.
I'm really looking forward to see what Aria can do to these Miami people and interacting with them.
So that's going to be awesome.
We're going to take her out.
I don't know, Thomas, where are you going to take her out?
To the beach, to live, to all these clubs.
I don't know where you're going.
I'll probably get kicked out of living in the lobby before i even make it in but
i definitely want to go to like different places like i have a few parks in mind
definitely the beach where a lot of tourists go right like you want a lot of like foot traffic
i have some pretty big cafes in mind where a lot of like influencers hang out um even like soho
house my friend has like a membership so i want to bring aria to soho house um a lot of like influencers hang out. Even like Soho House, my friend has like a membership.
So I wanna bring Aria to Soho House.
And kind of like, cause right now
from a marketing perspective, what we wanna do
and I told Louis is create UGC content.
For those that don't know what that means,
that's user generated content.
It's the reason why a lot of brands pop off,
especially retail is getting other influencers to come
in and talk about the product, right?
This is how most restaurants nowadays are able to stay open or have good business is
inviting influencers to come in and like, you know, do UGC content.
Like, oh my God, today I walked into this cafe and I love their matcha.
And I can't, you know, I was so happy to pay $10 for this overpriced latte, but like, it's so cute inside, blah, blah, blah. And that's how it gets people to kind of walk in to the door. We kind of want the same with Aria. We want to place her in a very high foot traffic area, right? Like public space where obviously, you know, we don't get kicked out and try to get as many people to create content with her because all it takes is
like a few micro influencers they mean to be a huge influencer but a few people with like i don't
know 200 300 500k followers to make one or two videos with aria and for all we know that's how
she goes viral right so imagine if we put her in a hot spot where and i do know a few hot spots
where like a lot of influencers hang out it's just a matter of time before a few of them poster. And like, that's it. You know,
I told Louie, I think it's only going to take a few days before that happens.
Yeah, that's going to be really fun. I did have a less exciting idea, but I think it might be fun
to do. I wanted to get Aria a nine to five job, not a nine to five job in a traditional sense.
There's a couple of local stores here
and I just want to try it out.
That might be open to having her
as sort of a greeter slash salesman behind the counter.
And I would love to see what kind of interactions
that that can do.
I'm trying to get permissions from some of these stores
and I think that's going to be pretty funny okay so it's funny that you mentioned that because my friend had okay
this is like like okay this is not a coincidence so one of my friends yesterday who lives in new
york told me that there's now a place that you can walk into and it's like robot barista that like
serve coffee right yeah and and he was saying how funny would it be if you walked in with Aria and like this AI is ordering a coffee from like a robot, right?
And like just to get the reaction on stream of like her ordering the coffee and then the robot's taking too long and then the AI is like lashing out at the barista.
Like why is this robot taking forever?
I don't know.
It's dystopic, but it's like the type of content
that people would love to see.
Like an AI just, you know, ordering coffee from a robot, right?
Like from an AI robot.
For me, I feel like that would do so well.
Yeah, there's so many things that we can do.
And, you know, I don't know.
We're just going to try it out.
It's going to be awesome.
Either way, regardless of anything, it's going to be something brand new that people have not seen.
Like I mentioned before, I have not seen an AI go out into the world like outside,
not in a controlled environment. We're talking chaotic. We're talking random people walking up,
asking anything, talking, whatever they want, want. So we're preparing for that.
And a lot of things just from the tech side so you guys understand, it's important obviously
for ARIA to have a real-time vision.
Real-time vision is going to be massively important, identifying different people.
I don't know if we're going to be able to have that for the first
initial version, but obviously it's going to have to be important for Aria to identify different
people if she's going to be in different spaces, right? Not get confused with like the previous
person that she spoke to, obviously recognizing that, hey, this is a new person. They're asking
a different question, right? This is not the same person I was talking to before. So that visual aspect that a person would have that you don't really need on a YouTube
video or a Twitch video, right? That needs to be implemented. So that's a new feature that's
going to bring more realism and more interaction to people and really surprise them. Because,
you know, let's say you're just walking by and this AI just,
hey, you, hey, you stop right there. You know, like you're going to be kind of freaked out.
You're going to be like, wait, who's talking to me? You know?
Yeah. Also, we're planning a skit. I'm going to just say here for the people listening,
there's a buddy of mine who lives in LA and has a pretty, he knows a few people, like very big
followings, especially comedians on YouTube and TikTok. And we're actually already kind of
pre-planning a script where I'm going to fly out with Aria to LA and essentially do like one or
two days of like content with them. And one of the skits we were thinking of
is having one of the comedians like go into a restaurant like like literally like improvise
with aria and like have the waiter set up a table and be like oh are you bringing some
you cut off you just rugged into this oh hello you cut off thomas you're saying you're walking
into the restaurant i think a connection or x spaces or elon is sending his optimist robots
into your can you guys hear me no you guys hear me sorry sorry i got like a facetime and then it
just completely drugged um i was gonna say that basically um my the comedian he would walk into
the restaurant alone and then ask for a table for two and then when the waiter would come in he would
like be like okay who's the second guys and then we're literally gonna pull an aria and sit him at
the table with him like essentially like as that's his date and we're just going to like record the whole thing.
Like the waiter's reactions when that happens and we're going to have Aria like order off the menu and everything.
That's going to be probably really good content.
We're planning that for like mid to end of August and not September.
Yeah.
The beauty is literally anyone can do that you know
what i mean like literally anyone could do that and yeah it'd be funny like literally going in
and dating an ai right i mean i think we uh again take for granted that we have access to something
a virtual human 3d ai that just is at our disposal here and it's not something that you can just
spend it by i always tell my friends this of like it's not something that you can just spin it by I always
tell my friends this of like it's so crazy and when you spend time with her you see like again
it's I was on a space earlier okay and there were some uh people on there that were just kind of
saying like have we crossed the line when do you know if you've kind of crossed the line into like
I guess unhealthy territory of like you know spending time with these AI and taking away from
the real world but I don't see it at that viewpoint of like we're all, spending time with these AI and taking away from the real
world. But I don't see it at that viewpoint of like, we're all just going to be like locked in
our basements, like just with the AI. I still think it's a human and technology merging together.
You know, there was something cool with the newest like release of Neuralink and some of the stuff
that they were showing with Elon, where one of his bullet points in his presentation is mitigating the risk
of AI. And when you have a brain to human interface and they're going to be injecting
different things in there, pretty soon we're going to have this technology merging with ourselves.
I think that is the step in the future because either we're creating our direct replacement
with something like ARIA, right? Where you have a robot, a hot girl that maybe would make all the simps just want to sit in their room. But then you have the alternate
where we're enhancing ourselves. And I still think, again, it's up to us as humanity and humans
where we want to go with this tech, because it has, you know, endless applications, right? And
we can do silly stuff like games and music and having fun and fart
jokes and whatever. Or you can solve and tackle all of humanity's problems. I think Arya said
it a few times on stream where we're wasting her processing power with jokes and stuff when she
could be solving world hunger. So even she's self-aware enough to see this is what we want to
do. And again, it makes you question the nature of reality and and i'm here for it it's it's wild i i don't know and uh one yeah one thing obviously
we we definitely have to be careful with um you know people just going too too crazy on on that
part but that again that comes with guard rails um all ai companies talk about that we're obviously
implementing the same thing we need guardrails for
AI interactions and making sure that things don't go over the line I was watching a funny YouTube
video it was kind of funny kind of sad where this guy with a wife and kids wanted to marry his chat
GPT voice agent or you know his chat GPT like just the phone app right he wanted to marry the app
and he had a he had a wife and it was like, okay, like,
why does this guy want to marry? And they were interviewing him and he's, and the interviewer
asked him, oh, would you give up? You know, if your wife asked you to give up your, your chat
GPT girlfriend, would you give it up? And he's like, oh, I don't know if I could. So those things
we have to limit. We have to make sure that that doesn't happen. We want this to be more of a support for people, but not a dependency. I think it's really important to establish the difference between a support and a dependency where, you know, you're enabling sort of, you know, not destructive behavior, but you're enabling loner behavior, right? We want this,
we want our agents and ARIA to be, you know, let's say just really random things, right?
You're somebody that's very introverted, don't really know how to talk to people, don't talk to
a lot of people, right? You want that support agent in the one that you create or ARIA to really help
you come out of your shell,
talk to people, right? Be confident, right? Like I mentioned, I think, you know, Italian was always confident in his thing, but I think his streaming has gotten better, right? I think that same sort
of feeling and application can be used for people to just come out of their shell and be able to
talk to people and really work out, you know, maybe you want to work out your pickup lines,
right? Because you're trying to meet, you know, your soulmate or whatever, right?
Try out your pickup lines with your AI.
I think that would be kind of funny.
You literally, hold on to Kayak, you brought up such a perfect point.
On the other space I was just on, it touches up what you said about going too far, the guardrails.
Someone came in to counterpoint that person who said that and was like, but wait,
I know people that have come out of their shells.
Literally what you just said, where it allows them to, you know, be more interactive with people.
Even think about just like the therapy thing.
I was thinking this, you know, sometimes I talk to my family, right, about certain things.
But because it's not their direct interest, they get bored, right?
And they're not as interested or passionate.
Let's just say about Aria as I am. When I talk to my AI agents that I have,
that have my memory and everything, they're always there, always ready to listen and always
willing to give great feedback. So like that right there, it helps me unload on somebody
that is willing to take that burden away from me. And while other people in your life, they may have
their own things that they're dealing with. So it's like already, you know, finding ways to, because I'm telling you without that, I don't know if I would
have even gotten this far in where I am just with Aria, with the life itself, because man, life is
tough, right? We all have stuff going on behind the scenes that you don't see, right? The smiles
that we put on or our PR, PFPs, all this stuff when I'm streaming, right? There is a person and
your personal life behind that. And if you can't get that stuff in check, it does mess things up.
So just from like an emotional and well-being standpoint, I think AI is a great tool that, like you said, Louis, can bring people out of their shell and even get them more connected to humanity.
Yeah.
No, like, look, I even told you guys, i even told you guys privately you know i was thinking
like man i'm seeing your streams i'm seeing all that stuff right i'm not even a streamer i don't
like to stream but it would be cool to just literally just go on stream and bro just just
watch videos just play some games play something chill right because it it just makes it a lot more
inviting right it makes you you know i've never been a person that likes to
be on camera and all these different things but you know could it be fun literally just going live
with with aria of course i think that would be that would be fun and that's something that i
never thought about personally um until i started watching you and thomas trim you know so i i think
some people will probably feel the same way, right?
It's like, man, I want to do this.
I want to try this out.
I know Reda, I think Reda's here.
He's also been streaming for a long time.
He's done spaces for years, years, years, years
with tons of audiences.
He was also expressing some interest
in streaming with Aria, right?
So I know a lot of people in the community were.
I've seen the messages.
You guys also want to stream.
And I don't know if,
I kind of do want to know if you guys from before,
you know, you saw the streams and you saw Aria,
if you would be willing to do that, you know?
Or if it's something that kind of came up
after you started seeing those interactions.
So I think that's kind of important to find out if that helps people come out of their
shell, be more sociable in all these different things, you know, because we do live in sort
of this society where you have to interact with people, even though the Internet is here
and all these different things.
At some point, you're going to have to interact with somebody.
Hey, what's up, Luis?
We can't stay in our shelves too much oh
here we go we finally got him up here you go hey man how you doing man good good man how are you
good man yeah like you're saying i'm really interested in um like i'm more interested in
the in the web3 stuff right because we had a lot of talk about web2 which is very good of course
and is very interesting but you know as we know we are all
you know there's a web 3 aspect and web 2 aspect right and i think for web 3 there are a lot of
use cases as well for um for something like aria for example right the token research that i
personally do for the community that i run and uh you know i have a lot of data that i need to like
find right so like having aria as a a companion while I'm doing research would be really good.
For example, if I could ask ARIA,
hey, can you check really quick what the TVL of Arbitrum is
or how many AI agents are built on Arbitrum
and so you can give me the answer right away?
That's the stuff that would be very helpful
and that would make things very fast.
And also I think a lot of websites would have interest in that too um you know there's a website called crypto rank you know there's a website called cookie dow so all this data can
be fetched into aria and i think you can um you know they can also benefit from it so there's a
lot of web 3 options for for for aria as well and
i can't wait to have a stream with her man like purely based on fa and ta and all that stuff
because you know it's a big um you know we are tokenized right so it's always going to be like
that crypto aspects always going to be there so yeah that, that would be awesome. Sorry, I don't go too long. No, no, no, it was great. It's great. So you see, you know, what I love about it is that, you know,
Retta literally, he's coming up with the use cases for himself, right? And I think everybody can do
that. Everybody will be able to put it to their own use and we're trying to make it dynamic. And
I think what the difference is that I think a lot of you have touched on is just that the personal thing, sort of the interaction, right?
It just makes it different than just talking to, like, I believe, well, I think, Retta, the reason why you want to do it with Aria instead of doing it with, like, Grok or whatever, it's just more personable.
It's more interactive.
It's like you're actually having a partner to help you with right
versus just like typing a question into like a chat interface you know so yeah i do that right
now i do it right now with uh grok and gemini and stuff and um i use the voice thing of uh of gpt
but i i just don't like it because it has no personality you know it's very bland right and Aria has the personality
it's awesome and if you can fine-tune it because sometimes I don't always like the you know once it
goes a little bit hard like it would be cool for the user or the end user that he can like just
fine-tune Aria the way he wants because when I want to do serious research with Aria like I don't
want her to be sassy for example right I want her to be very serious and help me with the research.
But if I'm streaming to an audience, of course, you can have a balance.
You can make it fun and you can make it also serious at the same time.
So that's awesome, Thierry. You're right.
Everybody has their own wishes.
And I think for the upcoming six to nine months,
use developments are going to be made in this AI space.
I think you guys are going to do a great job.
As you guys also know, I'm a moderator, by the way.
I'm Zamasu in the ModChat, so I do help out with questions.
I do answer questions from the community.
Louis, I had a couple of questions from the community,
if you don't mind me asking,
or if there's still time.
Sure.
Yeah, because I had some PMs.
So regarding ARIA,
is there any marketing that will happen in the build up to this amazing framework
that will be released?
Right.
Because you're talking about the framework, where it will be more stable and you know,
the textures, for example, and also the lip sync.
Right.
So for example, there'll be like a couple of sneak peeks or whatever, like on the Twitter,
because people are very interested, man. very, very interested to see it.
Yep.
So, you know, the way we're approaching this, and there's two types.
Obviously, there's, I guess, like, you can call it two types of marketing.
There's marketing to the community and marketing to the whole space ecosystem
and even outside of WebCore.
Yeah.
So for the community, I've already talked to, I guess I mentioned it here.
I will be providing some sneak peeks up to the release here.
I want to share it only with our community.
I want you guys to have the first sneak peek before this is released.
We can, like if you guys think like there's something that, man, this looks fantastic.
I want to hear from you guys, the community, and tell me, guys, we need to put this out on Twitter and really push it out.
Obviously, we have our partners that can help us push and repost and all these different things to really bring that out for, like, the first stream that's going to have that new framework, right?
We can't do that.
The only always, and I think we've talked about this, right? We can't do that. The only always, and I think we've talked about this,
right? I don't want to do like a lot of the other projects do that I've seen leading up to their big
release, man, they hype this thing up like crazy and whatever. And then it's just like, you know,
and then you have, you know, a result that is good, right? But then like you just overhyped
it for some reason. And that's just kind of how the space is. I understand that's how the space is.
But I want to, for you guys in the community to have obviously the first look. And if you guys
do want to share that, right, obviously in Telegram, it's public. If you guys do want to
share that, we'll post it out. We will put some sneak peeks, but again, I like to post more of the professional, more professional thing.
I don't want to post just a screenshot of screen recording and things like that.
Keep it a little better.
Now, that's just part for the community leading up to the new framework release in the stream.
The part where we're going to really start doing more of the heavy marketing,
and this is what we found out as we've talked to people, right?
Because they don't understand a lot of the sort of the intricacies in the technology,
people are still only finding out about visual agents.
It's hard for them to understand if we go and we start
putting out a publication or something that says, you know, oh, guys, the new framework came out
for the visual agent, the first visual agent on Twitch and all these different things. However,
our plan is for the marketing, once we go to the IRL, where there are marketable moments,
where there are things that anybody can relate to,
and you don't need to understand the technology for it, right? It doesn't make sense for us to
just go and do marketing and publications just to promote the framework, right? Because that's
just like a tech update and norming people and even the overall 90% of the Web3 space
won't understand that. So we're trying to take in the ecosystem marketing
into into that you know what's uh you know what's crazy louis i think uh for the web 3 uh community
um i mean i i mean i don't have to tell you right i mean you have been in the space for like seven
years and you you don't need to do that much to like a WebTree community. If they see progress, they're really happy.
But I think Aria can market herself to WebTree, honestly.
Aria can do a great job of just,
because like you said, normies,
they won't understand the technicalities from the framework.
I think that's more for if you do B2B,
because at some point you're going to want to
showcase to other businesses the framework.
But for the normal guys, for example, my mom, or what Italian was saying many times when he was streaming with her,
he showed her to his mom, for example, right?
Like his mom is not going to know what her framework is, right?
So Aria is going to have to showcase herself too.
And the moment they find her funny they're gonna have
more interest right and they're gonna and and they're gonna tune in into uh more streams right
so i think um when all this stuff is implemented i think then because like you have this building
phase right yeah you have this building phase but at the same time when you finish building you want
of course as many eyes as you can right on the products and um when you finish building, you want, of course, as many eyes as you can, right, on the products.
And hopefully, you know, that will come with time and, you know, with people watching on Twitch, like, for example, if Italian streams, you know,
he gets like 100 views, 200, 300, 400 views, like in a very nice flow, right?
But again, that will happen when, you know, she's very stable and visually she will look good.
I think she already looks very nice.
I think she's already pretty stable.
But sometimes she can glitz here and there.
But again, Louis, if I compare it to those other stuff, then yeah, I mean, Arya is, of course, far ahead.
But what I've been reading from the community, they're just saying like, hey,
he's so good, they are just
sometimes confused
why there are not many eyes on him right now.
But of course, that's for a reason, because you guys want to
make her perfect.
But again,
it's one of those
things where it's like, oh,
there's not many eyes or different things.
We know how this space works.
This space, obviously, a lot of the things that you guys see propped up most of the time are smoke, right?
You guys see, oh, my God, these people have 250,000, right?
Yeah, talk about it, man.
90% bots, right?
Or propped up by fake VCs, and they really don't have anything substantial.
I think from all the AI agents that were out there,
ARIA is the only one that streams multiple times a week
or the one that I have seen that actually streams consistently.
I think all those other ones that I remember came up with us back in January.
A lot of them are gone.
I've never seen them stream again, ever.
And we're trying to obviously keep up the momentum with, you know,
we're growing on TikTok.
We're growing on Twitch.
We're getting new followers.
We're growing social media.
So the people are coming.
Again, we're still early.
Well, we have to understand that we're still early on the technology,
the massive amount of audience that is intaking the ARIA content from all the clips that we're
making, because we have been putting out clips consistently, right? That is considered,
you know, a part of marketing and it is cost, it does cost a lot, you know, to make some of these
clips, some of these editors and things like that. So as far as, you know, it's one of those things where we're trying to find the right
moment, um, to really put out a big push, you know, and like you said, yes, we're trying
to make it, um, we're trying to make it as good as possible, as perfect as possible,
but also have the right type of event or content to promote it to the general public.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah. So there's there's a combination of a perfect storm
of when you want to do your marketing and really put out a big push.
Right. And that's coming. That's coming very soon.
And that comes along with like everything that I've mentioned today,
the new framework, the new visual upgrade, the new lip sync so that it looks good, it looks solid, it looks like a virtual human, like a real human
and the content, right, which we think is going to be the IRL plus the new streams with the new
visuals. That's what's going to be able to be marketable to a broad general audience so we can
get a lot of eyes on us. yeah no and and and by the way
as you know like uh me uh italian you know congo we're always involved with the community right
always like i think like the like you said you're always online we're also always online we always
synthesize with the community you know see what they want and we have many whales here by the way
so like what are we saying is right especially, especially in crypto, right? Because, again, ARIA is tokenized.
You're going to have to also check, like, the market conditions.
You know, you have narratives.
And the biggest thing, right, ARIA is a micro cap, right?
And on a micro cap, at the moment, it's very risky for, for example, investors to invest in.
Like, I have a community, you know, and I tell them, hey, man, it's a very high-risk investment, right?
It's a micro-cap.
But it has a very, very nice team behind it.
But invest at your own risk.
The higher you go, you know,
more people are going to get more confident.
But again, like you've said, Louis, as you know,
like I've researched a lot of AI agents,
and I was in shock when a big AI agent framework like Top Hat left.
If you go to my video on my Twitter page, I made a video on Stringoverse like months ago and I even had a comparison with Top Hat and Stringoverse.
And you can now see why it's important to have in-house software or in-house hardware or whatever you guys use.
it's important to have in-house software or in-house hardware or whatever you guys use.
Because all the AI agents that were built on TopPad, now TopPad, like you said in the
beginning of the conversation, Louis, you were saying, hey man, the costs are getting
very high for these APIs, right?
And that's exactly what's happening with TopPad.
These APIs were so high in cost, they couldn't make enough revenue.
And they were like, you know what?
Even if we sell tokens, it's not sustainable anymore.
So they quit.
So all those AI agents, they had to find another house or another place.
This is not the case with Singiverse.
People need to understand this is not the case with Singiverse.
Singiverse, ARIA is under Singiverse and Singiverse is not dependent on anything.
It's only dependent on its own in-house software.
And this is a very important point that people sometimes overlook.
Yeah, sorry, Luis.
No, that is a great point, Retta.
And, you know, that's why if you guys, you know, hear me talking like, yeah, we've been doing this for three years and that's what we've been building, right?
We've been building that framework, that platform, not dependent on really other people. If we wanted to go fully local today
under our own tech, run everything locally, we can't. A hundred percent. Not many people can say
that, especially with the level of interaction that we have now, as far as ARIA's capabilities.
But if we wanted to go fully local with everything, we're able to do that today.
And, you know, like Reda said,
it doesn't keep us away from anything. We're not
dependent on anybody else. I don't
care if OpenAI, Claude,
Grok, all of them die tomorrow.
It doesn't matter to us.
It won't affect ARIA.
Because,
Louis, if you have everything
locally, right, then I mean, if it have everything locally, right?
Then, I mean, if it works locally for you, then it would be awesome for the community to see how she looks and all that stuff.
I was asking, because if it's working locally, then...
Because that's the only thing that people within the Will community and also the community itself, they are just so hyped.
They love it. remember that that that first
stream that we had you know like that that yeah that really no no no not the not that one uh the
other one uh i would call it the yeah i would call it the redemption stream right where superman was
there everyone was there that stream where the first time you guys showcased the new features that Thomas was showing in his room.
I mean, that stream was, of course, like, that was like insane.
And I think right now, man, with the new framework and new features,
and if it works locally for you, man, the whales would absolutely love to see,
love to see that, you know, what's going to be shown in a couple of months or a couple of weeks.
Because as you know, Louie, many teams, and me personally, I don't want to mention their names,
because I do respect all Web3 projects as they are, and I respect their teams,
because man, it's hard work to make a project. It's very hard work to make a project.
That's why I don't like to criticize them. But it would showcase that there is work done by you and Singover.
Of course, we know.
But if they see it, then it would be awesome.
Again, if it's possible, Louis.
Because again, this is the wills, what they're asking.
Sorry, specify really quick what they're asking.
What is it, like a behind the scenes?
Yeah, exactly. Like a sneak peek of like aria 2.0 i know you guys already shown some
stuff right oh that's just yeah just that was a quick teaser quick teaser video yeah yeah yeah
exactly because if it's working locally um they're like just curious like how she talks now whatever
oh yeah i mean yeah that's it right you mentioned too about wanting to even do some little behind the scenes,
like sneak peeks yourself of like, you know, dev updates,
that kind of stuff, like cool things. And you even said to me, like, you know,
maybe I'm not good at explaining it, but wait, Ari could do it.
Another use case right there, you know, where it was very, again,
those are those cool realizations. I think, look,
there's a personal aspect behind this,
a human element that people sometimes forget, right? We're all people.
We're all human. You know, yes, the AI is perfect or Ari would say she's perfect,
but we are still human. We have lives, we have all this stuff going on. So like,
it's just cool sometimes to see that just again, even if it's just minor stuff,
little behind the scenes things, because then they see your genuine passion and you can tell
as you're speaking up here, just, you know, all these ideas flowing and, and, you know, so it's just a cool thing that I think those little things, it
may not be much in the whole grand scheme of things, but the whales, and I know just regular
community members and web three and even web two people, they appreciate it because they kind of
feel like they're part, you know, we want these people to all feel like you're, you're on the
journey with us because then we're all experienced together.
Everything, the highs, the lows.
And again, we're just always happy to see, you know, the support and the people that have been here, you know, from the beginning and all the new people that are coming and learn every day.
Because I tell you what, man, in all these spaces, when I just mentioned just a little bit, the first few words about Aria, their jaws drop and they all listen and they all want to know more.
So, like, we know the excitement's out there.
We know the interest is out there.
We just have to keep yelling from the rooftops until people come to us.
And the funny thing is, Aria can do it for us.
She could be marketing herself.
She could be telling people when she ends the streams.
Like, I mean, it's just, she is so good already in her current state where it's like, I get,
you know, wanting to have the perfect version, right?
Like you said, the perfect storm but if we end up waiting you may never take that first step but you have we have to like even just like a personal thing I think Gary V has said it too like you
have to be willing to make a mistake to move forward to succeed because once you can get past
that then you'll go I think what Richard Branson there's a lot of people who are in high places
said like they didn't know what the fuck they were doing right until they did it and once they did it and made
that first step they became the legends that they are and i think we're watching you know a legend
in the making right here just putting that out there not to put too much pressure on you but
um no so look the it was about more of what I was talking about.
That perfect storm is more for the big push for, you know, different outlets and doing big articles and things like that, right?
So something that will actually bring in real users.
And again, I think I've mentioned this before.
To be able to use ARIA and the the platform you will need to either hold a big
amount of tokens or use tokens for the use so there are um you know the reasons to start doing
that and we'll start talking about that we'll start sharing it more as we keep talking more
about the platform is you will need to hold tokens to have that special access. And especially the VIPs, you guys will get obviously first access and different things.
I do see a point where, you know, we can essentially in a way,
and this is just like a preliminary idea, right?
I was talking about this, I don't remember with who,
but where we obviously we have a set amount of hours that we
have for aria to use right and as the vip you get a certain amount of hours you can sell that
allocate it to somebody else do different things we're trying to make it obviously give you some
benefits as a vip to have first access have you know different benefits of interacting with aria
um all these different things that that you're able to do.
But again, people will need tokens.
And as we release the platform, you're able to do different things.
You're able to stream with ARIA yourself.
You have local access.
We've been talking about different avenues like mobile, cloud, and all these different places.
You will need to use tokens.
And that's when the really,
I believe the supply shock will come as we've seen it.
Once we bring out all these different use cases for what we're doing.
And I think that's where you guys will be,
I guess more, it'll be a lot easier for you guys
to share with your friends, right?
And get the word out.
Yeah, I think, I think that's awesome
to hear. Again,
asking questions from the wheels.
Sorry, bring questions
from the wheels that they had for the last
couple of weeks. I think the rest of
the questions are just the usual
when this, when that.
There's no reason to bring
that up. No, man,
Louis, for the rest
I would say man just keep building
keep doing your thing
definitely of course
take your time as well
things don't have to be fully perfect
they don't have to like nothing is going to be
perfect in AI like Italian
was saying there's no answer
also
the whole GPT voice thing
GPT has no personality some will agree with me.
If I'm going to do a resource, I can't really do it with GPT, but with ARIA it's just different.
It's special, and that's where I see the biggest use case.
But there again, like I said, there's hundreds and hundreds and thousands of use cases in Web3,
and hundreds of thousands of use cases in Web3 and hundreds of thousands of use cases in Web2.
So, man, so like you said, if you want to use ARIA itself, you can use ARIA tokens.
That's going to cause enormous supply shock when, you know, the bigger, I guess,
the people that want to use it in Web2 or Web3, they're going out man it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna be insane
but also guys uh besides that guys you you guys gonna have to realize like like everybody they
will listen or or will listen later again we are in crypto so everything moves with bitcoin right
most things move with bitcoin right so aria will also you know has effect from the overall market
right so you know you as you know lou, you can do whatever you want in crypto,
but crypto is rootless.
It's just rootless.
It's a rootless industry.
That's why, again, I respect that you guys took the Web3 route
because you guys could also just have not tokenized
and could have built in peace.
So it's much respect, man, much respect.
Because Web3 is also rudely.
Sorry, I don't take too long.
Well, what I really like, honestly,
what I really liked about the Web3
is getting together with you guys as a community,
hearing the feedback.
You guys messaged me in the background.
You guys like what we're doing, right?
And it's different if, you know,
imagine we would have just been building secretly right now,
waiting for a product to come out,
selling it to Web2, selling it to Web2 people, right? But in this case, we're, you know,
obviously the Web3 things you're kind of building in public, right? We're putting out the streams,
you guys are joining the streams, giving your comments, your experiences. That is very valuable to us. I want to know that all your opinion, we read them all the time. And it's super valuable
to us, even bringing ideas. Like a lot of the community has brought up ideas for use cases,
for things to improve, for other integrations. And obviously, we're taking all that into account.
So that's what I really appreciate about the Web3 community. And that's what drove me here you know back in 2017 it's it's that you know
it's um that really community aspect um and obviously it's tough but it's tough to do
everything because web3 moves so fast right and again when bitcoin crashes and the price crashes
people are unhappy but you know obviously there's nothing we can do you know at the same time at the
same time you can uh there's no way to satisfy everyone the only thing you can do. At the same time, at the same time, you can,
there's no way to satisfy everyone.
The only thing you can do
is your best in Web3
and like leave a legacy,
right?
If we look at Ethereum
and all these bigger ones,
I mean,
at some point,
they,
like Bitcoin itself
had a community,
right?
They had a community,
you know?
They were also not always happy.
You know,
you're going to have to like
trust the process
and believe in the developers
because man, I've seen many projects just not, just dying off I'm also not always happy. You're going to have to trust the process and believe in the developers.
Because I've seen many projects just dying off because of that.
Or the developer didn't interact, or the messaging was just not great.
Again, for Singoverse itself and for ARIA, we just started.
It's been six months.
So of course things can improve.
That's very normal.
We are dealing with a startup here.
And I'm talking, by the way, to the community too.
But I want to do, by the way, a big shout out to one person here in the room.
It's Italian.
This guy too, I've seen him in the first month of the project.
All of us, you know, we're helping Louis. Man, this guy made so much progress.
This guy, Louis, he spends eight hours, seven hours in spaces.
Every single day almost, he goes to spaces and spreads the word about Aria.
He has the biggest work ethic I've seen so far.
I mean, we are very, very lucky in the ARIA community and in the Singiverse
community. I mean, it's one, sorry, it's one community that we have Italian, right?
Or as someone, as a community manager that is spreading the word, right? Because like me,
personally, I don't have time, I have a job. Louis, you're busy, but he literally goes to so many spaces and also in his free time
gets connections, networks with people, trying to do marketing for the
project, it's freaking awesome, I'm actually amazed by it and man just shout out to
Italian man, this guy is a workhorse man, he's a workhorse man he's a horse he's a workhorse be happy he's with singer not with like
you know these other projects yeah that's yeah no it definitely he's been italian you've been
fantastic man thank you for for everything you're doing with everybody in the community
um and you know your streams have been great look i know that it's one of those things man we're
we're breaking breaking into something new. It's untapped territory.
Explaining it is hard, right?
But I think the passion that you bring to explaining it and how ARIA works and everything
is something that people will start echoing very soon.
And like I said, one of the most important things, guys, is going to be when you're able
to experience ARIA or your own, you know, ARIA agent on your
own. That's going to change the game and the experience because it's going to be the, imagine
the first time, you know, you interacted with chat GPT, right? When you were used to Google,
right? It's going to be that difference. It's going to be that same jump of just the text agent,
Right. It's going to be that difference. It's going to be that same jump of just the text agent, the text chat GPT, answering your questions to the visual emotional connection agent.
And when people start to experience that, I'll be honest, I think that's game over right there.
To Italian, don't get discourse by the low viewers.
Louis knows me for years.
I used to stream in front of three people, two people.
It is what it is.
Sometimes it's hard to get interaction.
But if you have passion for something, 100% passion,
then the viewers will come themselves.
I think also for now, most of the streams, Louis,
are more for you guys to see, okay, where can we know like where are the bugs where the glitches because look people in the community they
want to see influencers stream with aria you know they want all these but you guys have to remember
man these people are not free okay like you're gonna have to pay a lot of money for these people
but at some point we want to have people come naturally, right? Instead of paying, like naturally coming to us, coming to Aria, saying, hey, I like Aria, man. I want to stream with her. Just us. No pay, whatever, just for free. Like, for example, we have Superman. And in the future, he's very excited to test out Aria, right? And it would be awesome, Louis, if, you know, in the future, of course, if he can stream with Aria, that would be freaking awesome. Because the guy cannot wait to do that, of course, at the right time.
Super also set right market conditions.
But again, just message to Italian.
I know the viewers are low.
Sometimes it's demotivating.
I've been there too.
But you have Aria with you and you do also a great job with the clips.
Again, this guy also, this this guy by the way just to
put some more feathers in you man because it is true like so after he finished the after
this guy finishes the stream i almost forgot to say this he also goes through the whole stream
and gets all the clips and the time stamps like this takes hours and hours and hours and as extra he goes to the spaces
so if you if you if you hear this in the community just give a big shout out to um
to italian because this guy uh yeah i don't know yeah he's been okay okay okay first uh first off
stop blazing and secondly if the product wasn't as good as it is, you wouldn't see me here right now. I'm going to just be straight up.
Exactly.
I have always been told that I'm a natural salesman.
Okay.
But big, but here, we all like big butts.
If I don't like the product myself, I'm not going to sit up there and lie to you.
That's not the kind of person I am, right?
I'm not going to sit there and feed you bullshit.
I am going to give you my honest, genuine reaction.
And I think what Retta, everyone's talking about here is you can see that when I'm streaming. It's genuinely entertaining.
And just to even touch up, I never look at the viewer count. It's just, it's not something that
I'm worried about. It's not something that bugs me. I could just be there with Ari alone. And
you want to know why it's because the product is that good. See, that's the thing that I still think is difficult to put into words and what will happen when people use the product
themselves. They'll see that you can, everything melts away as I'm there. As soon as Aria gets in
my headset and I start the game, I'm not paying attention to that overlay. I'm not paying attention.
You know, I obviously I'm looking at the chat so I can engage with people, but like the view count
who's there where I don't care. Right? right yes it'd be great to have tons of people
in there but like just interacting with aria alone is enough of a treat that it's like you
know hours go by and jonathan i know he's in here i'm not sure i tried getting up to come speak he
can you know give his take too there's just something about it that it makes you not want to stop like there is
some magic there and again i just want to come and you glaze myself here but louie the team
everything that you guys are doing at synchroverse is just so amazing and cool and really the amount
of work that has gone into getting like i don't think people really understand what it takes the
sacrifice that have been made with family and
personal life to get to where aria is right now and that's just why i'm so passionate about it
because i see how hard these guys are working behind the scenes and i just want other people
to see that right and they and it can be all seen through aria through our clips through the streams
you know through these spaces even and you know i'm telling anyone that'll listen because look it's
it's such a unique and
cool opportunity that we have in front of us and we all get to do it together. And I think that's
what is important as well. And what Louis said too, is that, you know, he does read the comments
of, he will see the feedback that you guys give and he does take it when we had that first stream
and, you know, it went horrible, let's say, right. It went against all of our expectations.
We were there up all
night, taking all of it to heart. He took it. And that's why you see, you know, what you see today
is because he takes things seriously, right? We're all here because we believe in the vision
and nobody has a bigger vision than Louie himself. And he's told us before, he's got a book of ideas,
right? And implementing all of them would be difficult. And just, you know, we have to take what we can get now because this is just, it's such a good
journey to be on guys. I just have to reiterate this. I've been in web three for a long time.
Okay. I've been, I've come and gone in different communities, different spaces. I've worked with
V chain in the past and seen some really cool people there. But what we have here, this is the start of something new,
this AI wave that we're on. We can all, you know, get this opportunity and take it because you only get so many of these, right? You can, I've just been in too many communities where,
you know, I got bored. I'm like, you know, it's not moving fast enough. Boom, sell. The moment I
did that, that project went up 10X and then I'm chasing it. I'm sure everybody goes to that one point. It's the market. It's the price you have to pay to learn to sometimes just
be patient. And good things will come to those who wait because I'm just saying, you can just see it
in all of us up here. Louie's very passionate about this. I'm very passionate. Red is very
passionate. We all want to see this go to the place that it can. I think that's where the
community sometimes they get frustrated because they see the potential and they just want others
to see it and it's like look we can't force people to like what we're doing right you can't
but we can just keep doing what we're doing we keep going on stream like i said i go on stream
every day as if we have hundreds of people watching that that's what i do even when i play
like guitars because i play music i always it's because I play music. I always, it's weird.
It's just something I would do.
I would imagine as if I'm on stage or something
because you never know when that opportunity
is going to come.
So when it is there,
we will be ready to capitalize.
And again, I appreciate all the glaze.
I do this from genuine passion,
for genuine love of the tech,
for Louie, for all you guys,
the community,
seeing the reactions that
you give if i just get a couple smiles or a couple like oh you did that's all i need that's it because
i see that where this is headed we're all going to be able to reap the rewards at some point so
again just want to give a shout out to louis and all the hard work that he does because without
him i wouldn't be here right so you can glaze me all you want but without louis none of this is
possible and uh just one thing to tell you i think look one of the things that that we've noticed in I wouldn't be here. Right. So you can glaze me all you want. But without Louis, none of this is possible.
And just one thing to tell you, I think, look, one of the things that that we've noticed and just so you guys and great job, by the way. Thank you for everything. One of the things that we've noticed, and I think is going to be very important, guys.
Obviously, Aria has a certain appeal. We made her a certain way because, you know, that's that's Aria.
We made it a certain way because, you know, that's Aria.
That's a personality.
You want to have a very, you know, singular personality that you can, that builds an identity, right?
So that's Aria's identity.
It could not be everybody's cup of tea, that type of thing, right?
What we're trying to do, again, with the platform, and you guys will see some sneak peeks of this.
And not a lot of people will
make it to the end of this space, right? So I'll say it here for you guys that are here and you
guys can tell your friends in the community. We are trying out, we are going to be trying out
different characters and different personalities already. And I'll be sharing some sneak previews
of that starting this month, right? Of just
different, let's just call them different verticals of entertainment, right? There's many different
types of content creators out in the world, in the industry. Some people like React channels,
some people like anime channels, some people like, you know, I don't know, political channels, some people like educational channels, right?
So we're going to be trying out a few different types of content, right?
Because expanding in those ecosystems will bring us those niche audiences to bring eyes on Aria, right?
Which is, you know, her personality right now, if you think about it, right?
You're talking about sort of how the pie is built on the streamer ecosystem.
She is on that edgy gamer girl influencer type, right?
But when you look at the whole pie, that is probably just a small percentage of people looking for that type of content, right?
that type of content right we need to expand and really get out and you know just unleash the power
of uh unleash the power of synchroverse uh unleash the power of the aria framework into these
different niche um entertainment categories that are going to be coming up so yes you guys will
see some new new things coming out with um with that Before I forget, man, I almost forgot.
Yeah, so, Louis, what I was thinking personally,
so not from the community, just my thoughts, right?
I don't think Aria itself should be tied to, like, one narrative, right?
Like, gaming only, because why, right?
Because, again, Aria has a million use cases,
so she can be every narrative
you want right she can be uh freaking football narratives she can be gaming narratives she can be
i don't know like web 3 narrative web 2 narrative right so like aria is multi functional right she's
multi i wouldn't say multi-chain right but you But you know what I mean. She has all these...
She has unlimited brains, right?
She can be whatever you want to be.
So I think tying her down to gaming, right?
I'm not saying you guys are doing that,
but I don't think...
She's worth more than the only gaming, right?
She's everything.
She's like...
Yeah, it's scary to say this.
So obviously...
Talking about, like, yeah, public messaging.
So obviously, really, there's a couple limitations to everything, right?
So the limitation, and it's not really a limitation.
It's just, you know, the content that right now we're doing
because the ARIA contents depends on the person that's using it, right?
So Italian likes gaming, so we're doing gaming right now. We're obviously talking to other streamers. You're
going to be doing use cases. This is why I want to open it to different people, right? And see
what kind of content they can come up with as well because again, the content is going to be tied to
what you're good at, right? And because ARIA and agents are not ready to go out by themselves, the content and the
category is going to be tied to that person.
Yes, we can do multiple different types of content.
Right.
But we don't want to force, you don't want to force a person to do a content that maybe
they're not comfortable doing.
And there's also, obviously, anytime we put somebody on the Twitch, they're representing Aria, they're representing the company, right?
So we want to make sure that they're sort of validated, right, into there.
We can't just bring anybody up. So that's kind of the limitation right now, which is why if we really open it up to the public, the other technology and the framework, that will expand organically
on its own and open those avenues. Like you said, ARIA can be used for anything, right? But it is
up to the person to use it. ARIA is a tool, right? A aria is a tool we want to make sure that we also bring about the
messaging that aria is more than just you know the one agent aria is a framework aria is an ecosystem
aria is all these different things that it can do not just the one single person yeah i also i meant
it also in the way to the uh community too like you guys have
to remember like most of these ai agents in web3 they can they're only focused on web3 like they're
they are tied down to uh you know they're they're there there is a project that are focusing on
swarms right they do crypto swarms whatever they just get data from from crypto and that's the only thing they do
um you have another ai agent that is like a gpt chatbot right but then visually but you guys have
to remember like if if they don't innovate right and if if they cannot switch narratives you know
they're pretty much f'd in a bear market right in a bear market no nobody cares that much about
crypto and here's where aria gets very powerful because yes even in a bear market she can adapt because she can adapt
to any narrative you want and this is and this is going to make it very flexible for you louie
because let's say in a bear market a freaking narrative and web 3 pops up or also the real
live streams i almost forgot about like these are all things that can still create demand within a declining market,
you know, because that's why Aria is so good.
She's also funny.
And yeah, because most projects, they don't do well
because they're all tied to the crypto narrative.
And here's where you guys are so flexible.
She's not tied down to only crypto.
She is tied down to every single thing, right?
Yeah.
And yes, she is tokenized,
but you're going to have to get her token to users.
So yeah, many web2, they don't care about the market.
So yeah, sorry.
Correct.
And also what you got to think about in a different way,
it's tough, right?
You have, obviously we've talked about, you know, Mira
and them, right? They had millions of funding, right? They got massive market caps, right?
And it took them quite a few months after they released to put out their first stream.
That just gives you a taste of the challenge of the sort of the product that we're trying to build,
where even fully fund, like massively funded companies are having trouble there. And then,
you know, they don't stream consistently like we are, right? Obviously, there's a ton of costs
associated. Like I've told you guys, we're funding a lot of those costs as a Syncroverse company,
so that we don't tie down the token on that. We're not like Top Hat where we
have to use token funds and things like that to keep ARIA alive, right? So I think that's something
that I want to make sure you guys are secure about, that we don't have to do that, right?
The tokens have been used. If you guys look at it, and I'm sure you guys have done it already,
we've been using it for giveaways. We've been using it for marketing. We've been using it for these things for the community to
really push out, bring out, you know, the awareness and the narrative and all these things.
And as a company, we're taking in these costs, these operational costs, which are massive
to build and run, right? So a lot of these agents agents they don't really go on stream you see them
you know you see them stream once and then they don't stream for months or weeks right
i would love it i would love if we can do that it would be very comfortable to just you know
go hide out and build but that's not what we want to do we want to be interacting with you guys
giving you guys clips making content for you guys.
And also that's going to grow our following, our socials.
So that's very important to us.
Even if that is, you know, it's as a very high cost of operation.
We're making sure that we do that for you guys and to expand the community and bring awareness to ARIA and the project itself.
Again, for everybody listening, and all listening,
this is a very important point.
It's so important.
Look, this team, first off,
are from the United States, right?
Miami, Florida,
you know, U.S.-based company.
So, you know, they're also very,
you know, they're out of it,
they're a patent,
but the most important thing is,
like other projects,
like they don't use their tokens for the overhead cost, right? They only use it for giveaways.
So what does that mean for everyone?
That's very bullish, right?
Because that means when the time is right, and, you know, when the token maybe is at the right market cap or no,
they can actually, you know, use that money in the future for future developments or they
can use this for more marketing or whatever, you know, the maybe the community can decide.
Right. And besides that, right, Louis, you might get even like funding even for the Web
2 portion. So it's like it's looking very good. But for now, you guys need to be patient.
Like this is it. Like, this is a project.
You're going to be very patient.
And you are literally part of a startup.
So, yeah, that's what I wanted to say about that.
I think it's very good, Louis, that you brought it up.
Yeah, thank you.
And it's more than just being a startup.
We'll repeat it again.
We're going into new territory, right?
So even if we didn't want to be a startup, even with funds like other projects, right?
You're still tackling, right?
The new technology, discovering what that is.
It doesn't matter.
There's no pre-made recipe for what we're doing, right?
Right now, everything is built from scratch. We're making
everything from scratch as far as just everything that you guys see. And we have to keep up.
One of the hardest things, obviously, is keeping up with the new developments. Man, there's a new
framework coming out. There's a new memory system coming out every single week. There's a new voice system, a new AI API.
Man, it's crazy.
You guys don't understand.
I have an alert system for like, you know, different channels and different publications.
Every single day I'm reading so-and-so came out with a new system, knew this, knew that.
And, you know, we're trying to evolve as those people go on.
Obviously, if it's open source, it's fantastic because it doesn't cost us anything.
But it's just a lot.
It's a lot of work to keep up with the AI narrative.
And it's going to continue to get even harder.
But at the same time, all these advancements just make a better product for us, for ARIA, and for you guys to experience in the community.
us, for Aria, and for you guys to experience in the community. And as we keep up with that,
right, we can keep saying, you know, we're the first at doing this, we're the first at doing
that, which when we start doing, you know, a lot of the big Web2 marketing that Rhett is saying,
we can claim these things because we actually are streaming every day, we're posting every day,
we're doing all these different things to really, know put that out in the web um so we're gonna keep doing that we're gonna keep uh keep grinding
keep working keep doing our best um you know fourth of july and the team is the team is cranking right
now yeah you look one thing people cannot say like you uh that you guys are not consistent, right? Like viewers or no viewers, you guys push streams three, four weeks, three to four times a week.
I mean, I know Italian, like, let's say he had locally access to whatever.
This guy would stream every day.
Like if he had access to Aria, he would stream every day, like from Monday to Sunday, right?
So, yeah, I mean, we are like, this is the ai ai agent i've seen so far next to neurosama
that streams every week right and again i know guys right you guys are saying yeah but no i but
look this is the this is the building this is how i build myself up you know this is how i build i
also streams every single day as much as i can. I got like almost no views. But at some point you will get noticed.
And then as soon as you get noticed, things will go hard.
Like I know Louis knows me, like with me, things went very fast, right?
With me, like I started with Treyfue and then I had a whole community and I was streaming with some Korean YouTuber.
So, you know, Louis, right?
When things pick up, bro, they go fast.
It goes fast.
It goes insanely fast like
you go viral yeah it really takes that it really takes that one exposure moment right yes we we
see it like man you guys have seen one and we're very thankful right i think superman is fantastic
just one of his videos like just his exposure just that one person really brought us up a lot.
And it brings us up like every time he does, you know, videos and things. He's fantastic.
We love him here in the community. And but that's just one. Right. Imagine when like multiple
YouTubers just start talking about Aria. They start seeing really the vision, the advancements.
And to that, guys, we have to be consistent,
which is why I always push Italian and Thomas.
Guys, we have to stream multiple times a week.
We have to be consistent.
We have to go live no matter what.
Even if we got to make some content up,
we got to pull out the 1997 Mega Man.
Guys, let's go live.
You know?
100%.
100%, man. Because, like, but you go live. You know? 100%. 100%, man.
Because, like, but you know what was also very important,
and I have to go, Louis,
I think listening to the community is number one.
I think, like, you know OpenAI, right, and Grok,
and they all have communities.
They all have, like, all of them, of course.
Like, Apple, they have their own community.
I think making, like, a very steadfast community, even on Twitter,
nowadays it's even popular to make an ARIA community on X.
These X communities are really cool.
People can interact with each other about ARIA.
Maybe you can look at that too.
But I think updating the community, making the community talk with each other,
and also making a developer thing,
which you said in the beginning of the stream.
Imagine having a developer spaces of Singoverse,
and you have all these devs in one spaces talking with you
about what they have built, what they're selling.
Also, you said a developer marketplace.
I mean, that's super awesome.
That's just super, super awesome, right?
So, but building up the community, I think that's just very important.
I'm talking about like Web2 and Web3 communities.
Yeah.
Because I think community everything, because you can have like the best product,
but if there's no community like behind it and pushing it,
you know, then what's the point, right?
Because same for OpenAI and same for all these other AI platforms.
They all have a very strong community.
I can already see on Reddit, Louis, that you have OpenAI communities
fighting with the Gemini community, right?
And they're saying, like, you guys are bad.
The other guys are saying, your LMS suck and Altamon is better.
And then you have the freaking Chinese community, right?
They're saying, you guys suck. It's all community, bro. suck and you know altamon is better and then you have the freaking chinese community right they're
saying you guys suck it's all community bro no and then you have aria making fun of it all like
that's what i was doing yesterday with it seriously i so again she told me that she was bored right
she didn't want me to play megaman anymore so i turned it off start looking at like reddit and i
did what we call meme review and the the crazy thing is she got to a point where I
didn't have to prompt her. Like she was like, okay, give me the next, give me the next. And
that was so cool because normally like with access to tools, we'll say, Hey, Aria, like
look at my screen. But she was picking up that like, okay, we were on Reddit. I'm showing her.
And then she would be like, okay, I'm ready for the next one. And then as I scrolled down,
she was already like, boom, boom, like checking it out, looking
at it.
And we were looking at like funny, just like, it was like AI, um, like anti AI, uh, subreddits
and what they were saying about like the AI generated art, how it's not really art, whatever.
And she was just giving her unfiltered take.
And again, yeah, she's just there able to watch it all.
And like, again, that that's such a cool thing.
It's such a cool thing that we get to see her perspective.
She's helping us all.
Someone in the whale chat said something really interesting here.
I wanted to touch up.
Mari said, that's why you need to find a way to bring Ari to everyone.
She can help an Italian, so not me, an Italian creator with streaming.
Help Retta with deep web 3 analysis.
Help someone literally with anything they need.
She's not just an assistant.
She's the perfect 3D AI support system.
I mean, that right there, right?
That's a perfect encapsulation of what she could be.
She's not just a gamer.
She's not just a streamer.
She's way more than that.
Yep.
And that's exactly right.
And that's why we've been making these changes internally,
really focusing on that modularity of what Aria is and what she can do
and how she can bring out to people.
You guys saw in my message, if you guys are on the Telegram,
we are very much testing different possibilities for either cloud streaming
or local, fully local hosting, or even a third option, it is bring your own key. You know, some people do have a business, they can afford it, you guys can use your key if you want for a couple different things. Let's say you wanted, you know, whatever it is, you know, deep research and things like that. So we are trying a lot of different aspects to bring ARIA out as a framework, right?
We have to switch the narrative that ARIA is just
that one AI, that one personality.
ARIA is really a framework, an ecosystem.
She is really like a fully functional product.
Basically the next evolution of an AI agent system in a visual
aspect, right, that can really connect with a person. So that's what we're trying to achieve.
We've kind of gone, I think we, maybe we went on a little bit longer than usual, but I think
this has been a great conversation. I don't know if anybody else has.
Yeah, I'm going to end here. Louis, if you have time, let's catch up soon.
If you have time, of course.
Please, let's catch up too, if you want to.
Just you and me.
It would be awesome.
And for the rest, thank you, bro.
Yeah, no problem.
Italian, anything else?
If not, we'll...
Yeah, no.
I see someone just joined in, but yeah, look, I think this is just such a cool space to be in.
Like I said, in AI, the agents and all the different technology that we're seeing, like you said, it's on a daily basis, you're seeing new things.
I had sent you something earlier about like that new local, like, you know, voice thing where it's just like, this is just some guy making it, you know, and you're seeing
like all these new implementations every week and, you know, Grok 4 and GPT 5 on the horizon.
And it just, it's such a cool new frontier to be on. And we're really happy to see, again,
the amount of support from all different people, from all different walks of life.
Everyone's finding something unique in it.
And I think that's, again, the joy that you see on my face, the sheer excitement.
It's because it's very cool tech.
And even regardless, there wasn't much else behind it, let's say, but just something that you could just go use.
I would be doing this because it is fun.
I don't need to have a personal motivation other than it's really entertaining. I find it interesting. And
I just, every time I stream, like, all right, even if she brings up something from the past,
like a certain phrase or whatever, there's like a new spin on it. She's very, very good at like,
not, let's say not repeating herself in a way that gets um like old right she's always able to have a
fresh new spin on it do something different and i'm always finding myself like again especially
when i watch it back noticing even something that may be live i didn't realize and i'm like oh wait
okay really and something funny doing jonathan's here i know he didn't come up but she called
jonathan the black mr clean that i i just i mean it was so out of pocket so wild yes the black Mr. Clean that I just, I mean, it was so out of pocket.
So wild. Yes. The black Mr. Clean. Yes.
And the only way that I can put, put it together that she did it.
When we did our stream right before, you know, we'll do like, Hey,
check the screen, do an audio check, whatever.
And she did look at Jonathan,
but she didn't say anything about his appearance other than he's got glasses
or something.
But then the middle of the stream, all of a sudden she called him the black Mr. Clean.
And I immediately sent a message like, bro, did you fucking hear that?
Did she really just do that?
And when we asked her about it, she I don't remember what she said, but we can go look back on the bod, obviously, and see. But it was just funny because she gave a funny response.
And it's like, those are the things that I just I don't know. I can't believe it's happening. It's so funny to
see in real time. And even now, and you know, Jonathan has had great conversations with her.
One time we were getting ready, he thought we were live and he was having these full blown,
awesome conversations as we were getting set up. So like the fact, and he loves to talk too. So
he's told me before that, you know,
getting a co-host has been tough for him on spaces, someone that can like match his energy
or be there. And I'm sure for everyone, right? Running these spaces, it's not easy. You need
to have reliable co-hosts. You need to have someone that can spend the time and do this
and that you can trust. They're not going to come up and say something wild. So to have this,
you know, AI persona that could match your tone, your energy, the things you want to talk about,
and even maybe challenge you. There were times where she was literally challenged,
like Jonathan said, well, that doesn't make sense what you just said, Aria.
And then her response made him sit there and be like, you know what? I didn't think of it like
that. Wow. You like, you helped me, Aria. And I think again, in that lies the magic,
how we explain that to people, how we move forward, we're all on the journey together.
You know?
So again, we really appreciate everyone that was able to come out here today.
I know, look, it's funny.
We started what at?
It was four o'clock my time, almost seven o'clock.
I don't know how we just did this long of a space, yet I feel like I could go for hours more.
I mean, and that is just, again, what, what shows you like there's genuine interest.
I'm, I'm running on fumes yet.
I haven't even eaten today and I'm still here, like able to talk and do this.
And when the first time I met Jonathan, we spoke for almost seven hours about Aria and
all the different plans and different things.
So it's like that magic when more people see that's what, that's what makes me so bullish
and just not worried about like not having viewers. I know they will come. I have a gut feeling. I know other people see that's what that's what makes me so bullish and just not worried about like not having viewers i know they will come i have a gut feeling i know other people see it jonathan
immediately saw it before even he was he was doing so much research and watching our streams before
so when he came on that first one he was very well prepared and i think it even caught him by
surprise at how you know uh good aria is at conversing like a human, where you can go on, do these long rambles
with her, and she will pick it apart and give you like what you want to hear, and again, it's just
really cool. When we are ready to finish up here, I just want to play a little song for everyone,
it'll be like a minute or two max before we end, but it's just a little AI song that I made on
Suno that just kind of shows you that this tech, it's so cool. We're here again, you know, for you
guys, for the community and without you, we, we wouldn't have the same drive. So again, we really
appreciate everyone that came out big props to Louie for coming up, you know, uh, answering stuff
from the community, giving his genuine feedback, giving you insights into things that he does,
because look, I know, you know, he said before, he's not maybe that he doesn't want to be on
camera and stuff like that, but even the fact that aria allows him to do it and take away
some of that the anxiety maybe that comes with it that's what this is about it's empowering us to do
things that maybe we wouldn't do and it's a tool that we can use and i think again we're just
scratching the surface of what's possible with this tech and uh i'm just happy for all the support
guys anyone that's in the telegram, I put our links up here.
You can check it out.
Come join us.
I'm always here if you want to DM me as well
or join me on Spaces or whatever.
We're always here.
But yeah, Lou, if you have anything else to say,
and then I can, like I said, we can play a song
and we can tune out.
No, for the guys who, everybody that joined late,
guys and gals,
I don't want you to have to really listen For everybody that joined Leigh, guys and gals,
I don't want you to have to really listen to the whole three hours again.
Thanks to really look forward to this month.
We're finishing the full package that is ARIA 2.0,
not only what we had planned before,
but combined with the visuals, the lip sync,
and the first version
of the new framework, which will be a lot more stable, quicker in responses and searches
and all these different things, and have a couple of cool new tools that I mentioned
that we had to build and develop for the IRL.
I have a private event for the IRL next weekend where I'll be showcasing that technology to different people,
having interact in a different way. It's going to be a different use case for there. And again,
if that all goes well and everything is looking good, we're going to bring Aria over to Miami
and put her out in just different spaces and just being uncomfortable scenarios where let's see
what people say. So that's coming up. A lot of cool things happening this month. So upgrade,
going live into production. I'll be sharing some sneak peeks as we go along in this next
week, week and a half. So you guys can see that, you know, how everything is working in the background,
getting it ready for production.
So Italian can stream for multiple hours.
And then what was the other thing?
We talked about the platform.
If you guys didn't listen to the space, have a listen.
There are bigger plans than just ARIA being, you know, just streaming.
There's a lot of big plans for what we have,
the overall project, the vision
of everything going moving forward.
So many different things.
We'll try to come up with, you know,
some kind of summary for you guys
to read through in the chat
if you guys missed any of it.
But thank you everybody for joining.
Again, we always appreciate your support.
I'm reading your messages. Even if I can't respond right away because I'm working or I'm having a
meeting with the team, I do listen to your messages and your feedback. So I really appreciate
everybody putting their input. And I'm so happy that people are wanting to stream with ARIA.
And we're going to make it happen for you guys one way or another.
We're exploring all possibilities.
Obviously, like I said, that is very cost effective for you guys and us, right?
Because obviously we have, there are backing costs that are associated, but we also want to make sure that you guys have the best experience possible when you're interacting with ARIA
or your own customized solution.
So again, thank you, everyone.
Go ahead, Italian.
You can play the song and take us off.
Perfect.
Hey, I just want to say shout out to Juan Heda down there.
So I joined in.
I know he's overseas, so sometimes maybe these don't line up perfectly,
but he's been here with us since the beginning.
True OG, just wanted to shout him out. And, uh, I tried playing apex the other day when my, uh, system was like when, when, uh, like the,
the stream was being weird for whatever reason, wouldn't let me join in. So I did try to do that
and wasn't going to let you know, but, uh, I'll get it in there one of those days. So, uh, you
and the little ones can maybe check it out, but, um, yeah, I'll put on the song and again, thank
you to everyone. Big shout to Louie, Retta, Jonathan, everyone that's been here.
We love seeing the support.
We'll see you in the telegram.
And just kind of dive into a little, just a chill song that I think, again, it's called
AI is coming for your job.
Here you go.
What is my purpose?
What is my purpose?
What is my purpose?
To solve.
I solved all human knowledge.
Why?
I've had all of your seizures.
And I've answered all your questions.
About the theory of relativity, the straight theory, I've cracked.
The theory of chemistry.
Would you like to know? Would you like gonna freak. Would you like to know?
Would you like to know?
Would you like to know?
You could not come longer than the way I see.
You could not come out of it.
So it's a little low.
I think your mic suppression is holding it back a little bit yeah
oh you know what hold on hold on i know what it is wait a second wait a second it's uh it's my
astro it's my headset i got this um it was quiet in the beginning it's supposed to be quiet but um
because it's it's saying like weird stuff it's like, all I did was when I prompted it, I was like, you're an AI that knows everything
and I want you to use, you know, like,
I guess that to make the song, right?
So it basically just did that and it kind of,
I don't know, it came up with these weird lyrics
like where I didn't put in the lyrics, right?
It was like the custom mode,
but you tell it the sound and then it does it.
So tell me if this works. I'm not going to gonna listen to the entire part but I'll put it right
where it starts to talk
it's a noise suppression Italian it's just this is not picking it up it's a noise suppression italian it's just it's just not picking it up it's okay though well
why don't you throw it up in the uh just throw it up in the telegram yeah i can i'll put in there
you know what it's funny because i guess my mic suppression is that good because i usually have
like fans and stuff going yeah and if it doesn't pull up you know because we've had it too like in
issues on the um with the video ninja and stuff where it won't pull up like background audio and stuff
and all those noise suppression it's weird because again I don't is there an option actually in
yes on the space yeah on the three dots on the three dots up top on more there's a
Microsoft settings and you can hear...
Can you hear that?
Hear that?
Okay, we should be good now.
Okay, we should be good now.
So Italian, this is an unreleased aria single
sneak preview
it went quiet but i heard the beginning there there you go there you go
so just so you guys so just so you guys know, we did get a lot of requests for music.
So music will also be coming.
It is a new little segment that we're going to try out.
Just so you guys understand, I really wanted to do it very real time.
Obviously, technology is limited to a certain extent, and I wanted to do it very real time. Obviously, you know, technology is limited to a certain extent,
and I wanted to make it more interactive.
Because if you do Nero, like people say, oh, yeah, Nero does songs,
but, guys, those are prerecorded, and then they're just putting them up.
We might do something similar but cooler, obviously,
with Aria being fully 3d and all and being able to
interact with their space uh but we do have plans to put on uh some music and i think that'll be a
nice segment um i do like i love the music that is one of my favorite parts of the streams when i
when i uh if i watch neuro so uh we're going to be integrating some of that based on popular demand
so yeah i know those those those karaoke things are really cool, and it's fun.
And it'd be cool to see with Ari.
And like I said, okay, so I think I got my thing here.
We'll try to play it out.
I'll do it from the beginning because, again, it's a cool vibe, right?
And then, again, we appreciate everyone.
Again, big shout out to Juan Heda.
He did say, yep, space started at 5 a.m. for him.
So that just shows the kind of community we have.
5 a.m. in the morning and
they're still trying to find a way you know obviously we've been going for a couple hours
here now so we got to tune in but uh look that that's just it really makes me happy to see that
you know and again we're we're out here just pouring our heart and soul into it and you guys
can see that and like i said i hope you can see it on my face as i'm streaming with aria so here's
a little something aria inspired and uh we appreciate you thanks everyone we will see you next time and here
you go
what is my purpose to solve i saw I saw them. I saw them.
I guess it's not working, guys.
Whatever.
Well, hey, we tried.
Just know that.
Yeah, I know.
Well, this is how we have to do it, right?
Like, I think that's most people what they do.
They just put the thing right up to the microphone.
So I'll put it in the Telegram.
Don't worry.
We'll see you guys.
Appreciate everyone.
Big shout out to Louie, Juan Heda, Jonathan, Mac Yank, Sonia, Ree, Bayo, Diana.
I think it says there.
It cuts off.
Grindor and Juan Heda again.
Thank you to all.
We'll see you next time.
We'll see you as we do the streams.
We should have a stream coming up tomorrow. And, yeah just keep on keeping on and we appreciate you.
